builds-discussion

[azure jasper]

wait I js checked I’ve already done that

[dusky bane]

then you can play arbitrations

[opal leaf]

I maybe high when typing this

I'm famished hahahahah

[azure jasper]

I’ll check again bc I only started playing Warframe again recently and I haven’t rlly played in like 2-3 yrs

[limpid loom]

Does anyone have any builds that can melt through most enemies up to level cap on steel path?

[charred gale]

magistar

[opal leaf]

How's MY ash?

[rich glacier]

What warframes do you have?

I have a few different options

[limpid loom]

All of these

[opal leaf]

There are A LOT of frames that do that

You have Xaku, Gyre, Hildryn, Wisp, Uriel, Sevagoth, Dagath, Inaros, Voruna

Those guys melt enemies like NOTHING

[rich glacier]

I'll dm your options for the builds I know

[limpid loom]

I found a revenant build yesterday, is he any good at melting

[opal leaf]

He is good at survivimg, but not really at melting

[limpid loom]

Calm, I’ll save the rest of my forma for something else then

[solar reef]

i also just dont recommend influence in general

this is your current setup with its primed mods (way too much additive damage)

[opal leaf]

What is the good for it

[solar reef]

versus something like….

[opal leaf]

Hmmm fever strike and berserker fury

[solar reef]

which also has a ton of additive dps

but its also not banking on influence

[opal leaf]

Ya I might give it a chamce

What's the Arcane?

[solar reef]

exposure

[opal leaf]

Any other placeholder?

[solar reef]

No, exposure is just blatantly the only arcane thats gives a huge boost to raw

[opal leaf]

Ooo of....

[solar reef]

its easy to get anyways

[opal leaf]

Nugget...

[solar reef]

i wish ash’s clones werent so mid

i want him to be good so badly

theyre just impossible to balnace

[opal leaf]

How good you want him to be tho

[solar reef]

good enough that its not faster to just ignore his 4th entirely?

like it has the bones to be a good ability its just crippled by its speed

[pale belfry]

Ash Clone just too slow, and unstable to maintain

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah it's slow

[solar reef]

Ash’ kit is super mediocre as a whole

[opal leaf]

Any other way to counter it?

[solar reef]

His one is dog ass, needs an augment to be mediocre for armor strip

his 2 is fine, his only “dont change” ability

his 3 is dog ass, and is just a bad mobility tool

[pale belfry]

the shuriken is ass

[solar reef]

its augment didnt save it the way DE thought it would because his 2 is insta cast and dirt cheap anyways

[opal leaf]

Hmmm his 1 and 3 are mostly the "ignored" abilities

[pale belfry]

rather subsume over it

[rich glacier]

Accept dms temporarily and disable them again. I gave a few recommendations

[south blaze]

Guys are these builds good enough for sp? I haven't touched mirage in awhile

[solar reef]

his 4th does a lot of damage but so does every other weapon in the game and they dont require you to sit and wait

[pale belfry]

You should use equilirium

[solar reef]

energy nexus is an immediate no

[hollow aspen]

remove streamline for equil

and no nexus

[opal leaf]

True

[south blaze]

Alright what should I replace nexus with

[opal leaf]

Equi

[pale belfry]

mine is quite different but the equilirium that i swap with violet archon shards

[solar reef]

you can run rolling guard over streamline

and equi over nexus

or vice versa

[south blaze]

Alright thanks and what should I subsume on her?

[solar reef]

nourish or QOL tool of choice

[pale belfry]

nourish if you want energy eco and viral

you could try shock troper but it required volt augment

[solar reef]

your only options are shock or nourish for damage

[opal leaf]

Roar?

[solar reef]

other than that you’re looking pull, airburst, qol

[pale belfry]

you have to replace it with her 3rd

[solar reef]

cant subsume a damage ability if the frame has a damage ability already

[opal leaf]

Ohh

[pale belfry]

xata whisper and roar = esclipse

[south blaze]

What's the best ability to subsume over? Since I'm using her for guns

[solar reef]

each has their own benefit

Xatas Whisper is the best choice if you’re using banes + blast

[dusky bane]

not worth on mirage since you'd HAVE TO go over eclipse

[solar reef]

Eclipse is only the best if using double dipping weapons

Roar if you’re just running DOT’s

[pale belfry]

Or you can build like me, disco ball and stable general play

[south blaze]

I see what shards would be good for her? I have full ability strength currently

[solar reef]

5 yellow parkour shards

[pale belfry]

depends on how you use her

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-superman-gif-632723218522114279

[pale belfry]

mine

[solar reef]

casting + parkour + crit?

[pale belfry]

3 cast, 2 energy for extra usecase spaming

[solar reef]

oh thats weird

does she really want that much casting

[pale belfry]

her disco ball without nourish and equilirium

[south blaze]

Alright thanks a lot guys

[pale belfry]

as you can see,all my config, i dont use equilirium on her

only my first config is nourish

mirage had 1 thing that i love to use her is this passive

I dont really need parkour velovity

but i could use ceramic dagger as a boost

[bold warren]

Why is thIS HAPPENING

[pale belfry]

You are doing ETA ?

[dusky bane]

seeing it says "antivirus bounty" I'd assume no

[pale belfry]

ah, forgot that part

been long time not doing any of it, forgot how its look like

[rocky mason]

Techrot babau

They're tanky

[bold warren]

Apparently this gun is shit with no Incarnon 🙁

[rocky mason]

Probably a guardian eximus nearby too

[rocky mason]

You're making viral heat with all the weighting on viral

[bold warren]

Do I just put away the Telos Boltor for now until I get the Incarnon?

[dusky bane]

or try what I told you

[rocky mason]

It's not that strong without it yes but it's still usable

[bold warren]

Right so everyone keeps saying to use Viral but that makes me reliant on kills which I can’t get and I’m so confused

[dusky bane]

viral and kills are unrelated

[rocky mason]

The boltor is an early game weapon and you don't even have an arcane on it

[bold warren]

Don’t have Primary Arcane Adapters and this is the Telos Version

[rocky mason]

Just get them from teshin on a relay

15 steel essence

Jump on the steel path incursions to get them easily, there's always people doing those

Resets daily

And being the telos version doesn't change almost anything, it just gives it the arbiters of hexis passive

[bold warren]

Sorry I just really love the Boltor which is why I invested 3 Forma into the Telos Version but that kinda feels pointless now but fair

[rocky mason]

It's fine to invest on it, you will eventually get more damage done

But until you get the incarnon it will be low

[bold warren]

:/ Fair enough, just wonder if I should use Another AR instead for the moment but IDK what

[solar reef]

?????
thats not how viral works

[rocky mason]

Depends on how much work you want to do for it

[solar reef]

Viral is damage vulnerability

1 stack of viral effectively doubles damage dealt (to health)

you dont have to kill anything to get that viral there

its 325% at max/10 stacks

[dusky bane]

just gave the prime WITH incarnon a try

[solar reef]

you dont kill to get viral, you use viral to kill

[bold warren]

I don’t have the Prime

[dusky bane]

yeah, until you stack it up it's ROUGH

[dusky bane]

doesn't matter, point still stands

[bold warren]

Whoops

[dusky bane]

it NEEDS the uptime OR platforming

[solar reef]

its important to read why things work before listening to build guides

I recommend reading over the status effects

[bold warren]

What I’m gathering here is basically, don’t bother trying to make the Telos Boltor work until you get the Incarnon and invest in something else but thats just my impression.

[dusky bane]

or use frame buffs, like I said

[bold warren]

Thanks for the clarity

I would like to get Nourish on Caliban but I’m gonna need help

[dusky bane]

vid sending btw

[wary forge]

176 total dmg

[open mauve]

I was looking for yalls opinion should I change out stretch for umbral Vitality

[rocky mason]

0 base damage mods

[dusky bane]

build I was using, for reference

[rocky mason]

That's what it does

[warm obsidian]

Subsume for Hildryn?
And how to build her Exalted

[dusky bane]

suboptimal
don't slot vitality, hell, I'd argue you should drop fiber too

[wary forge]

300% strenght for no reason

[rocky mason]

You should get more strength for expertise, no?

[warm obsidian]

229 with precision

[rocky mason]

How many from archon shards

[dusky bane]

this is prime with incarnon installed, but not activated
so NOTICABLY higher stats than telos, it still did next to NO damage until I stacked the arcane/galvanized mods
but fully stacked it's handling itself fine
I highly advise using a buffing frame if you wanna use it before incarnon

[dusky bane]

I don't think hildryn wants precision tbh

[warm obsidian]

None yet

[rocky mason]

Each tauforged red is a huge boost in damage because of the arcane

[topaz verge]

Thoughts? And also where should I put adaptability?

[rocky mason]

Because both the exalted scales with both strength and shields and you're buffing both in one go

[warm obsidian]

I know
Have other priorities to give Archon shards

[dusky bane]

cast speed's also nice tbh

[wary forge]

why are you viral

jsut go eletric

[rocky mason]

Doesn't matter for aegis gale

[dusky bane]

you can do better

[topaz verge]

I have both on

[dusky bane]

it's not the only thing you'll cast

[topaz verge]

How?

[rocky mason]

It's the only one you need

[wary forge]

?

[topaz verge]

Electric and viral

[wary forge]

yes

[dusky bane]

I'd recommend this

[wary forge]

dont go viral

[topaz verge]

Why? Doesn't it make the electric do more damage?

[wary forge]

does he know

[dusky bane]

you'd do more if you didn't waste the slots on viral

and you're diluting your electric procs
you'd be better off puting viral on a primer gun or having your companion prime

[topaz verge]

Oh nice

Should I replace equilibrium with archon stretch?

[wary forge]

why would you do that

[brittle sleet]

Archon Stretch doesn't help if you're actively channeling an ability like Exalted Blade

[topaz verge]

Oh, I thought it'll give me 2 per second for every proc on every enemy

[bold warren]

I mean, I plan to use Nourish Caliban Prime I just ain’t got Nourish yet and still believe I made a mistake investing so heavily into the Telos Boltor and should just find another AR for now

[dusky bane]

can't regen while in 4, so that's pointless

[brittle sleet]

Like it literally won't be giving you energy because passive energy regen like that doesn't work while you have an active energy drain

[dusky bane]

nourish by itself might not be enough ngl

I guess nourish and stomp might be

[pale belfry]

Nope

[topaz verge]

That sucks

[pale belfry]

caliban had energy regen

[bold warren]

Fair enough, guess I’ll find out when I get Nourish

[brittle sleet]

Also Archon Stretch isn't a "per enemy electrocuted" kinda thing, it's just a flat 2 energy per second, no stacking

[dusky bane]

how is that at all relevant to the convo

[dusky bane]

what are you putting nourish over
cause all 4 of his abilities are solid

[topaz verge]

Well that sucks even more

[bold warren]

Energy Regen isn’t the issue here? It’s the Damage Output of the AR I desired to use.

[bold warren]

His 4.

[dusky bane]

his 4 might be nice to keep on a weapon-focused build

[brittle sleet]

On the things that Archon Stretch IS good for it's pretty good but yeah it doesn't do a ton on its own

[topaz verge]

You can use unairu to armor strip instead but it'll be annoying imo

[bold warren]

[pale belfry]

nourish can come with several source, why you choose nourish instead of roar + something like kompressa ?

or epitaph

?

[dusky bane]

fair

[topaz verge]

Would it be good on anything really? 2 energy for 5 seconds doesn't sound the best

[bold warren]

I mean, it Spreads Viral to the Ortholysts also so 🤷

[brittle sleet]

Gyre and Volt love it

[topaz verge]

Also if you have the tauron hammer for unairu you can armor strip with everything you have for 30 seconds but the recharge for it is annoying

[brittle sleet]

Almost any frame using Stretch can appreciate it as well since sentinels can proc Archon Stretch with their abilities

[hidden hull]

help

[topaz verge]

Is gyre good? I only need her bp to get her

[hidden hull]

ye she is

[wary forge]

if u need to armor strip on excalibur ur build is terrible

[brittle sleet]

Gyre was considered one of the best frames in the game before the armor changes

[pale belfry]

keep now one reroll

[brittle sleet]

And she's still capable of the same kills per second

[hidden hull]

alr but which one is better xd

[pale belfry]

you can play her without weapon

[topaz verge]

I don't need it I was just giving replacements for caliban 4

[pale belfry]

keep new, misstyping

[topaz verge]

Oh nice

[hidden hull]

ah i see

[bold warren]

I’m just trying to learn here @pale belfry

[pale belfry]

what the hel

[bold warren]

I’m so confused

[dusky bane]

both suck

[pale belfry]

what you are confusing ?

[hidden hull]

why?

[wary forge]

how are they good

[dusky bane]

left has bad negative, bad positive and CC alone isn't enough
right has irrelevant positive, bad negative and CD alone isn't enough

[hidden hull]

i'm not looking for a 3 stat pos and 1 neg for selling, i'm just looking for a riven that complements hema

[wary forge]

none of them even do that tho

[pale belfry]

like i said, you can keep new and reroll

[dusky bane]

kinda hard to get a good one tbh

especially with how INSANE the augment is

[wary forge]

right one is barley slotable if that legit hammershot would be better then that riv

[topaz verge]

Is the hespar good?

[pale belfry]

not really

[dusky bane]

of the 3 heavy scythes it's easily the worst one

[topaz verge]

I got a riven that can give it more status chance abd crit chance

[hidden hull]

fair enough

[dusky bane]

I wouldn't even call it slottable when augment exists

[pale belfry]

the weapon itself had no unique trait and the base stat is quite mid with a garbage stance make it unstable

[dusky bane]

it's a melee, it's usable
it's just not good and DEFINITELY not worth getting

[pale belfry]

MR fodder

why not

[dusky bane]

200p for fodder is spicy

[pale belfry]

still cheaper than spending forma on lich to reach level 40

[wary forge]

farming hesper for mr fodder is a good use of your time i think

[wary forge]

6 forma is 70p

[pale belfry]

how many liches weapons ?

[wary forge]

70p is cheaper then a hesper set

what is that point

[pale belfry]

MR fodder?

You cant read?

[wary forge]

so then like dont use the forma if u dont want to?

[pale belfry]

lmao

are you clown ?

[wary forge]

i dont think so

[topaz verge]

I HAVE TO MAKE LICH WEAPONS LEVEL 40 FOR THEM TO COUNT FOR THE MR?

[pale belfry]

yes you are

[dusky bane]

nah, they give 100 per level

you need 40 to max them out

[pale belfry]

1k

[wary forge]

nah u just more xp they more forma up to 40 its not even that much more tbh

[topaz verge]

Oh nice

[pale belfry]

Like before update, only those founder can achieve LR6

[wary forge]

listen to this guy tho

buy a hesper set

for 200p

[pale belfry]

The case of thse weapon for min maxing

[wary forge]

instead of farming a lich for free

[pale belfry]

when you had nothing much for MR

[limpid lark]

Man see build discussion, man happy\

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-train-loaf-gif-16290561475055465817

[topaz verge]

I just need a blade for my hespar and you can trade the hespar parts

[lone haven]

hi, since imperator vandal and mausolon are dead, what it the best archgun weapon right now? Kuva grattler? Larkspur prime? Or maybe Cortege or Arbucep?

[pale belfry]

Incase you want full progessing, buy hespar

[lavish orbit]

Mausolon is really good

[topaz verge]

I want it because but it's definitely not 200p cool

[wary forge]

mausolom kuva gratler

[pale belfry]

just because no body want to do that mission

[wary forge]

abrcuept isnt bad

[dusky bane]

if you want a heavy scythe, get thalys

[pale belfry]

so it rare

[wary forge]

cortege is pretty niche it needs a lot of synergies to make it good

[topaz verge]

What can it do?

[dusky bane]

it's just hespar, but it doesn't suck

[topaz verge]

How nice

[pale belfry]

If you know how gara is, it is just similar like that

[dusky bane]

incarnon mode is underwhelming imo
like technically it's good, but you don't notice it in moment to moment gameplay

[lone haven]

I have mausolon and it's kinda okay, but Ive heard so many good things about kuva grattler and arbucep looks interesting

[dusky bane]

mausolon beats grattler in just about any use

[lavish orbit]

Arbucep is just good for priming or niche build

[wary forge]

thats just not true

[pale belfry]

you can grab mausolon to play Profit taker hunt easily, its free and useful till endgame

If you want something new, should try larkspur prime

better than grattler imo

[wary forge]

lmaso

now thats something

[pale belfry]

tier list?

https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out-gif-1716626911192888665

[dusky bane]

larkspur below those is diabolical

[limpid lark]

what is this discussion about

[wary forge]

how is larkspur better then anything above it

[pale belfry]

On which usecase?

[dusky bane]

it just is

[lone haven]

I remember fluctus was nice for orphix venom but it was like in 2020

[dusky bane]

especially in archwing itself, larkspur and fluctus clear any other gun

[pale belfry]

it is a chain beam weapon

and have alt

[dusky bane]

fluctus still top dog for that, even if the gamemode's irrelevant

[wary forge]

wow chain beam so good

def better kpm and dmg out put then a ful lauto machien gune that explodes on impact

[pale belfry]

🤣

[wary forge]

in what universe does larkspur do more dps then gratler

im not saying its bad but like just use gratler its litterally just better at everything larkspur does

[dusky bane]

unironically yes

[wary forge]

its single target doesnt come anywhere close to gratler

[lone haven]

aight, imma try out kuva grattler, im curious now tbh

[dusky bane]

like either of them are used for that

[wary forge]

they are tho what

in terms of like deploying an arch gun in like eta/eda/level cap the main usses for them?

good luck taking larkspur in an eta and eda

gratler just 3 shots everything

[pale belfry]

bro never done this and didnt grind for invasion

[wary forge]

what other reason would you invest in an arch gun besides for pt and eta and eda

[modest vector]

hey guys i dont think im cooking with builds wat yall think i shud swap out and get and forma im tryna use this on kullervo

[pale belfry]

sorry, i had loadout good enough for not using any of them for ETA and EDA

[modest vector]

dis my riven

[pale belfry]

i use archgun as dexternity arcane loadout

[wary forge]

it doenst matter then u just put the arcanes on and thats it

[fringe quiver]

Hey just general advice. If I got a high status fun hammer (arca triton) that has sexy slam damage. How would I capitalize on it? Like base 38% staus chance is sexy but I haven’t built for status before so I’m kind of new at this.

I would imagine stack condition overload and a bunch of 60/60 mods is the move but I want to know if there’s any more nuance here I should be aware of

[wary forge]

radiation syam

is this the new tech

[modest vector]

that was blast oops i think i placed the mods wrong

or im on the wrong config

[wary forge]

its forced electric procs on every slam so status chance doesnt matter

[limpid lark]

if you build for status try to make the desired one to be the more damage than others, status chances for different elements depends on their damage

[limpid lark]

hell no, another melee influence terrorizing my head

[wary forge]

all u need is jsut galv elementalist to get 100% status chance at 5x combo and it increases ur damage by 80%

every slam is a guarented eletric so with 100% status u have a 60% chance to proc another eletric and a 40% to proc a blast

[fringe quiver]

Fair I suppose but also wouldn’t be slamming it all the time. Like it’s possibly a skill issue but I like to just spam normal attack as well so

[wary forge]

theres no reason to use if youre no slamming tho

if u want to do a light attack spam build just use a different melee

[modest vector]

boombaclat brah dis my other config da blast one dont mind the radiation one i sent i was testing out random stuff on that wat shud i change here

[fringe quiver]

so to clarify, I do slam with it, but mostly after getting 4 necessary kills and when there’s a large group of enemies for maximum pika papow. Like the advice on the slam proc is good, but I was also wanting to learn about normal attacks too

[wary forge]

thats good just take out presen point for elementalist

[timber sparrow]

bomboclatttt

😭

[modest vector]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-pet-cat-pat-cat-petting-petting-cat-gif-88141326984537530

[wary forge]

oh wait u dont have eletric

u gotta go eletric and influence

[modest vector]

i aint burning the kitchen yo i cooked this random build with all the random mods i have

or maybe i burnt the kitchen

[timber sparrow]

no influence it's over

[wary forge]

drop organ shatter for 6060 elec

and pressure point for elementalist

[modest vector]

alr

what do i go on my exilus slot

displ merit or the truth flame from follie thing

[timber sparrow]

tennokai

wait

what weapon is that

[wary forge]

doesnt need a tenokai with the efficiency

[modest vector]

syam

[wary forge]

u can go one if u want

[timber sparrow]

ok ok

[modest vector]

im using it with my kullyvovo

[wary forge]

dispach overdrive is nice for the 60% ms

[hazy snow]

Hey guys, what primary and secondary weapons should I focus on for arbitrations? I am mr6 and just recently passed the sacrifice quest

[fringe quiver]

But yeah thanks for the advice.

Assuming I got galvanized elementalist, slam damage mod, and stormbringer, would everything else be freestyle basically? Like even if I get guaranteed proc on slam, I do want to build more status.

[fringe quiver]

Who is your main warframe?

[hazy snow]

I am currently enjoying rhino, but my main would be volt

[wary forge]

dsoesnt matter its level 70 content not worth doing once u get the mods

u can do meta arbis but thats a lot of investment

[fringe quiver]

Noice! It’s only a bit important because some frames got special stuff.

But in any case do the anniversary alerts if haven’t! The weapons have a free potato in them so

[lone haven]

what kuva element would you guys put on your kuva grattler and why? Radiation, magnetic, toxin, heat or something else?

cuz im thinking about radiation or magnetic tbh

[limpid lark]

toxin so i can go both viral and corrosive, next question

[wary forge]

magnetic

[lone haven]

ty

[wary forge]

every arch gun is viral heat/ corrosive heat pretty much

[quiet laurel]

viral corrosive tech unknown to even the most popular of builders

[limpid lark]

im lavos main dont hate me 😭

[wary forge]

yo baby tenno asked about arbis

help him out

[lone haven]

there is that mod for archguns that gives magnetic tho, magnetized cycle

[wary forge]

its bad

[limpid lark]

yup, from hollvania i believe

[quiet laurel]

not even worth talking about cause its just gonna be "use your strongest loadout"
aint no way baby tenno gonna do meta arbis

[wary forge]

like jsut mag as the element is way better

[wary forge]

legit

[wary forge]

blood rush/corrput charge over faction mod i guess

make sure to also use the nira mods on ur wf

[limpid lark]

its good combo anyway if i go for just damage from weapon (imo)

[quiet laurel]

the combo isnt even possible 😭

unless you run nourish

[wary forge]

very posible combo

[limpid lark]

i just valence bonus toxin, add cold, then add toxin and electricity

ah wait

[quiet laurel]

then you'll have viral elec

[limpid lark]

no i cant do that

[topaz verge]

Is the orthos good? It looks cool af

[quiet laurel]

its good cause of influence

[dusky bane]

prime's great

[wary forge]

the dollar store bo prime

[topaz verge]

Ah nvm I already got the prime one I thought it was a new cool weapon

[quiet laurel]

is [insert any light attack melee] good? the answer is always yes cause of influence

[topaz verge]

The normal looks better than the prime imo

[wary forge]

i want to be cool and unique and "off meta" and not use influence

[limpid lark]

for every influence mention I want a dollar

[dusky bane]

if you want looks, guandao prime and edun are there for you

[quiet laurel]

you so unique, you the real main character 💅

[lone haven]

what do you think about containment breach on kuva grattler?

[wary forge]

that mod is so unfathmobly buns

[topaz verge]

Where can I find the thalys?

[dusky bane]

isleweaver

[topaz verge]

It looks cool and is good as u said, not as cool as the hespar but I don't want to grind void angles for 7 hours

[modest vector]

do u think i shud just use this or the one i have (2nd pic jus image the empty slot as the electric 60/60 @wary forge

[topaz verge]

Where can I find the isleweaver merchant? I forgot

[dusky bane]

influence won't work with that riven

[dusky bane]

dormizone or duviri

[wary forge]

seond onew just slot 6060 ye

[fringe quiver]

Oh thanks!!! Also YES! I saw it had good crit damage so I’ve 100% would use the steel mods

[modest vector]

oke bet tq

[wary forge]

ur using the forced eletric and influence to do most of the killing the slam damage is mainly just there for single target so crit isnt as relelvant

[topaz verge]

I forgot that the dormizone exists, I gotta start checking the other "homes" more

[quiet laurel]

I mean no real reason to check most vendors cause what they offer isnt of much value

[solar reef]

teshin yonta and palladino are the only vendors that matter

[quiet laurel]

bro forgor the most goated one

[solar reef]

if its Arbi’s Hexis related i’ll choose to ignore it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-cute-cat-cat-meme-smiling-gif-10086598795453609558

[wary forge]

last slot is preference extra reload speed is nice on most arch guns cause they all got longish reloads u could also go something like deadly efficiency and go a different arcane other then merciless or something like critical focus

[quiet laurel]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HGANulXWoAAxT1J.webp

[wary forge]

enervate is pretty much core on every arch guns for crit cause thier crit mods suck

and most of them are lowish base crit

[rocky mason]

Phaedra got so buffed with the arcanes it's insane

[solar reef]

dexterity

[rocky mason]

You can have double dexterity on a second loadout

[fringe quiver]

I appreciate the build guidelines! I don’t have melee influence yet so I’ll just adjust stuff as needed 🫡

[solar reef]

i dont even care about the combo duration i just use it to remind Naramon dorks that they cant have anything nice in life

obsolete ahh school

[wary forge]

im talking about using an arch gun for something other then just slotting 2x dexterity lol

[rocky mason]

They have a big ass sword and that's more than enough

[solar reef]

sounds like naramon cope

[wary forge]

holy ragebait

[rocky mason]

It one shots everything idk how that's cope

Demolists, acolytes, bosses, whatever

[solar reef]

it one shots everything! like ok so does any other generic heavy spam weapon and they dont take several minutes to charge

[rocky mason]

If it has only one health bar it dies

[solar reef]

ever other tauron strike also just does that

like its for sure the worst tauron strike

[rocky mason]

Do you even have them to say it

Because it really sounds like bullshit

[solar reef]

I have Naramon, Madurai, and Vazarin

[wary forge]

every strike one shots everything

like what

[solar reef]

Unairu I wont talk on because Arbi die hards will go ape on me

[rocky mason]

Sure, the secondary effect of all others is better but the actual attack of naramon is the best one

[near vortex]

Naramon strike is up off cooldown

[rocky mason]

Zenurik and vazarin don't

[solar reef]

they all one shot effecticely everything and the ones that dont have lasting/aoe effects that end up killing things anyways

[rocky mason]

Their secondary effects are good but the actual attack doesn't one tap things

[solar reef]

Vazarin’s utility is so phenomenal that it doesnt matter

[rocky mason]

Even less in the whole area that naramon does

[solar reef]

the other ones also dont tie you down to the worst school

[lone haven]

thank you, I will try out primed deadly efficiency but I think critical focus might suit me better

[rocky mason]

The projectile keeps going

[quiet laurel]

do not speak ill of the big airu

[solar reef]

i would never

naramons the only school deserving slander

annoying to spam ability casts for arcanes, your sole niche being replaced by archguns and dexterity arcanes, and “look i do millions of damage on my tauron strike!” that you can cast once every 5-10 minutes and also the other big damage strikes do that too (madurai supremacy)

[near vortex]

naramon charges faster

[solar reef]

im convinced its just stockholm syndrome for new players who see “melee” somewhere in the description and run with it

[near vortex]

affinity spike or whatever the perk is

[solar reef]

doesnt make up for the rest of the kit being mid and lame

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-cute-kitty-silly-cat-silly-kitty-snug-kitty-gif-16880601942232757801

[near vortex]

It also has better vigswap build in

200% vs 165%

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-scared-scary-flop-gif-8576938341887257950

[quiet laurel]

naramon lowkey so ahh

[solar reef]

i’d also like to add that being able to cast your tauron a little faster doesnt redeem it as a school

if you’re at base steel path? you’re tile clearing with or without it

if you’re at high endurance? you’re still probably doing that

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/934062419733536768/1081255061688160266/678BF311-C300-4284-BF9E-7BFADA0DA42B.gif

[solar reef]

but but but big sword and melee combo! 😭

[near vortex]

naramon is also good for Zawfluence

More consistent than relying on 4x dexterity imo

[solar reef]

dawg you have to swing your weapon normally like once ever 30 seconds

is it really a consistancy issue atp

[near vortex]

Kinda
On Zawfluence you don't gain combo

[solar reef]

if you’re solely using some bogus shenanigans like that for damage then use rauta

[near vortex]

you might once in a while from accidentally hitting something but most of the time you're contagioning

[near vortex]

people do use Rauta

Rauta plus Naramon

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-looking-at-cat-confused-gif-25251297

[solar reef]

also once again, its not that hard to go out of your way to attack normally like once

just to reset your timer

[quiet laurel]

you can also just slam into enemies

dont even need to swing

[solar reef]

naramon would benefit way more if it gave you intial combo instead

or literally any other generic melee stat, like range or attack speed

[near vortex]

I think you use parry over slamming to reset the timer but that's something specifically for Madurai Zawfluence iirc

[quiet laurel]

even for arbis every school except naramon is a good choice 😭

[solar reef]

but Content Creator XYZ says its the best!!!!

infinite combo!

[quiet laurel]

imagine if naramon actually gave good buffs for melee like increased max combo, increased combo gain or attack speed

[near vortex]

I'm not claiming Naramon is the best
We have Madurai already for that

[near vortex]

It does give combo gain

[solar reef]

in not even not even gonna say madurais the best anymore

[solar reef]

theres a real argument to be made for almost everything in some case except for naramon

[quiet laurel]

kinda a lot to do for such a little buff which should be passive

[near vortex]

a lot being press E in the air

Same number of inputs as sling strength

[quiet laurel]

str and casting speed also is much more valuable than combo gain

[solar reef]

the difference is that madurai has other things on top of sling strength that make it good

[near vortex]

Again
Nobody is arguing that Madurai isn't the best school
This is common knowledge

I think Zenurik is a contender for top 1 now with Tektolyst ults but I don't have it unlocked so idk

[solar reef]

Vazarin Zenurik and Madurai are all top tier atp for general use

I’d argue the former two being better thanks to pure utility

Unairu being the choice pick for Arbi’s from what I understand

[near vortex]

what does Unairu do for arbi

[quiet laurel]

only 1 has to run it, usually one of the cytes

but its nice since it frees up a mod slot on the cytes

[covert talon]

i need a build on voruna guys

[wary forge]

Zen is easily the worst school

[dusky bane]

naramon exists

[bright plume]

Not sure if this question goes here or not but - how good is Phahd on an amp, really? Been using Pencha forever (because well, the farm is anti-fun for amps.)

I usually see Phahd recommended for most general use, though.

[wary forge]

Naramon is leagues better than zen

You don’t need energy regen from a focus school in 2026

Legit the most cope thing

[velvet pulsar]

Shield Hater!

Honestly I only want to use zenurik for the spectral pages

[violet silo]

naramon has usess

but zen's tauron is better

[wary forge]

Just use vazarin if u want to use a school to live tho

[old marsh]

just use the one that has a cool looking symbol

[velvet pulsar]

That my main

Zenurik is my 2nd choice that too only for hildryn or lavos (if the bug has been fixed)

(yes I'm not using zenurik for energy anymore)

[mighty flare]

theres examples in: #1492606866482794601 message

[old marsh]

yes u r. u r just afraid to admit it

[wary forge]

Zen has:
The most useless sling
Temporal drag
20% ability strength (madauri exists lol)
Energy regen that is cope

[velvet pulsar]

70% ability strength, 50% casting speed, 50% ability duration
Madurai: 90% str

[wary forge]

Madurai is casting speed

Or u saying zen with a way bind

[velvet pulsar]

Zenurik also has it

[wary forge]

From what

[velvet pulsar]

Ofcourse the latest addition

[wary forge]

So From it’s strike

[old marsh]

goes to show his hate for zenurik goes long back man didnt even know

[velvet pulsar]

That 90% str was also after considering madurai strike

[wary forge]

In sure using a strike is better then just selecting Madurai and pressing one button

Definitely not cope

[velvet pulsar]

Try editing that the 3rd or 4th time

[wary forge]

Ok

But yeah a strike is better then having to press 5 twice every 40 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

Also you've changed the keys for void sling? Damn.

[wary forge]

There’s just no way you actually think this lmao

[velvet pulsar]

What being able to do void sling with one button?

[hexed lodge]

ngl, i don't think the average player wants to double sling every 20s...
You normally use Sling Strength to snapshot abilities, not for normal gameplay

[regal sierra]

any advice on which to take?

[velvet pulsar]

No advice needed anymore.

[inland forge]

Which one gang?

[wary forge]

Yes

[supple plover]

plannin on building valkyr. ill mainly use her exalted and melee, but any blast nuke big kaboom primary and secondary i can grind for? preferably not tenet or kuva (not sure if theres any tenet or kuva weapons like that), since im not good/never have gotten those weapons

[regal sierra]

wdym?

[velvet pulsar]

The negative projectile speed is good if u can charge the incarnon with it

[wary forge]

Power transfers u don’t even to sling tho what u just switch back and forth lmao and even if u did you guys act like that’s that crazy for a buff that lasts 40 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

Who?

[old marsh]

what is your MR

[velvet pulsar]

[supple plover]

MR17

[hexed lodge]

not a valkyr expert but
there is hardly any good AoE (boom) weapons outside of Kuva/tenet or the incarnon roster

[wary forge]

Neg reload is lowkey a big brick I would say just go left

[inland forge]

alright thanks

[wary forge]

Corvas u need a reload speed mod anyways cause it’s such a long reload without one

[old marsh]

Felarx, Lateum

[hexed lodge]

Power transfer? that's 20s

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon AoE?

Strun

[wary forge]

Does it scale to 40 or no I thought it does

[quiet laurel]

strun is ass for base SP cause its annoying to charge

if you wanna use the AoE that is

[velvet pulsar]

Shoot an eximus

[hexed lodge]

rip

[wary forge]

Ah ok

That’s still just way better then zen strike tho lmao

Plus the actual school of Madurai is just leagues better

[old marsh]

man's hate is unmatched

[velvet pulsar]

I'd still use zenurik only for hildryn (and maybe Lavos)

I'd still main vazarin.

I'd still let Madurai rust.

[wary forge]

Zen is the worst school and it’s not even close

[supple plover]

i was thinking a weapon like kuva bramma where theres a massive explosion...but not a kuva or tenet. but seems like from what others are sayin, theres no weapons like that aside from kuva or tenet

[old marsh]

u want a boom cannon?

[velvet pulsar]

There's Shedu

[supple plover]

yes essntially

[velvet pulsar]

Though that's less damage and more spam

[old marsh]

Aeolak

[supple plover]

like when i dont wanna melee, i just wanna take out my primary and just boom the entire room to smithereens

[quiet laurel]

the humble naramon

[velvet pulsar]

There exists base Bubonico but why use that than Coda exists

[quiet laurel]

I'd say naramon, then zen

[wary forge]

Burger take

[velvet pulsar]

Burger taki

tikki?

[supple plover]

im lookin at a video of this and idk what im lookin at lol

[old marsh]

thats Ogris tbh but u dont want kuva/tenet so your options r limited

[quiet laurel]

I'll take your burger away from you

[old marsh]

btw Secura/Carmine Penta is awesome btw

[velvet pulsar]

Does it say "shedu citrine non-LoS nuke"?

[wary forge]

How is naramon worse tho please let me know

[hexed lodge]

tbh, the amount of effort you take to make a non-kuva AoE weapon just as good as a kuva one is going to be the same as acquiring a new kuva/tenet... might as well isntead go for the adversary weapons then

[old marsh]

u can try that

[supple plover]

nah it just says its finally good shedu

[supple plover]

adversary weapons?

[velvet pulsar]

Good then it's not my confusing video

[hexed lodge]

adversary weapons = kuva/tenet/coda

[quiet laurel]

the buffs are just there, its not noticeable and the buffs that are noticeable are ass to proc

[velvet pulsar]

Oh wait, u don't want a kuva or tenet

[quiet laurel]

the only thing naramon has is the dexterity at home skill

[velvet pulsar]

How about a coda?

[supple plover]

i was just made aware that it takes time getting these weapons and you needa learn some kind of pattern or something

[velvet pulsar]

Hunting coda is fastest

[wary forge]

It’s got one of th best buffs in the game Especially for Zaw and glavies the passive is good sure u can cope and say its mid which like sure gives ur amp 100% extra dmg passively without doing anything super long sling range

Zenurik legit does nothing at all besides give you 20% ability strength and some duration I guess

[supple plover]

any coda weapon rec for what i want?

[hexed lodge]

yea it takes time, but it will take the same amount of effort on crafting a normal AoE weapon, plus forma it, plus re-level it up, compared to just go straight for a kuva/tenet/coda weapon

[quiet laurel]

the thing is these buffs are just very annoying to proc imo

[old marsh]

adding to AST said, there is no pattern for Coda. just 1 mod u need to find

[velvet pulsar]

Coda Bubonico is a battery weapon with AoE & multiplicative gunCO

Which means never gonna run out of ammo

[supple plover]

oh alright, just saw a short clip. looks fun. ty ty

[wary forge]

Agree to disagree even if you just only looked at naromon for the extra sling distance, operator movement speed and extra amp dmg it still clears zen

[old marsh]

cant wait for Bubonico to get an augment 4 yrs later to make it even more OP

[velvet pulsar]

Next nightwave

[violet silo]

bubonico incarnon with augment in five years where it gets expoCO (exponential condition overload) and reloads faster than it shoots

(people still say torid is better)

[velvet pulsar]

"Phahd Scaffold is better."

[hollow plover]

how would i build and play gauss? waht does he do good? what missions are he good in?

[dusky bane]

zen's strike beats out the entirety of naramon's school in utility

[wispy heron]

Haven't played in 8 years, just learned one of my old favs is mid at best these days. Anything that is a good replacement for Akstiletto or Aklex Prime?

[wary forge]

Ah yes a strike that u get every 5 minutes

I’m sure that’s better

[dusky bane]

the only useful thing naramon does has been replaced by archgun dex arcanes

[hollow plover]

anyone? or is this the wrong place toa sk?

[wary forge]

That’s just wrong

[mighty flare]

gauss likes duration, you can max it out with some strength for a pure platform setup or build range to nuke with his thermal sunder
gauss is ok in most stuff, like a generalist

[hollow plover]

like volt?

[mighty flare]

yea sorta, not as versatile but ok for most things

[hollow plover]

sad, i didnt realize his resurgence was close and bought some oarts for plat a few weeks back

[gray quarry]

Torid worst weapon

[hollow plover]

best weapon

im kidding

[gray quarry]

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[fresh hollow]

guys is the mod for beast "resourcefull retriever" worth getting?

[karmic badger]

Yes

[violet silo]

#1468974371438854275

[karmic badger]

Resourceful retriever also doubles void traces when cracking relics

[fresh hollow]

oh, sweet

thx

[naive hinge]

what to upgrade

[agile wagon]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[fierce lark]

do you do a lot of zariman stuff? cascade, flood, armageddon or just anything with a lot of thrax/void angels?

[naive hinge]

no just for fun

[fierce lark]

do you have last gasp from unairu?

[primal bane]

Does trick mag work on the epitaph?

Or would pistol ammo mutation be better

[silk ether]

inner gaze and eternal gaze cause those are waybound

[wary forge]

Power transfer

Contam wave and void strike

Bros in a vc where everyone is muted

[placid seal]

Should I swap continuity for the archon version and what else do I swap?

[compact cypress]

voruna roar setup, what should go in the last spot?

[mighty flare]

stretch or cata shields/rollin guard

[mighty flare]

caster gauss likes range for sunder nuking
continuity + concentration/shards used instead of lowering range with narrow

[compact cypress]

u think circumvent would have a place in the build over augmented?

[wary forge]

Nope dogshit arcane

[compact cypress]

first circumvent hater ive seen omg

[wary forge]

If anything go like arcane fury to boost your melee even more if u feel like u don’t need the strength

[placid seal]

What do I change then

[mighty flare]

not really no, voruna doesnt struggle with surviving really, could replace it with like arcane fury depending on ur melee
just rolling guard or cata shields is enough

[wary forge]

https://overframe.gg/build/591349/gauss-prime/frozen-flames-gauss-thermal-sunder-spam-nuke-levelcap/

[naive hinge]

what 🗿

[naive hinge]

no

[wary forge]

Bro everyone is deafened

[naive hinge]

where

[naive hinge]

you said everyone is deafended

[wary forge]

Everyone is

[naive hinge]

what were u talkig about

[wary forge]

Besides that last guy I guess

[naive hinge]

ah lol

[wary forge]

[naive hinge]

i feel drunk mb

we are the deafened gang

[wary forge]

It’s ok

It’s just funny that everyone is deafened well been in a vc like that

[placid seal]

I don't like the nuking playstyle of gauss 😔

[dire terrace]

any good oraxia builds?

[naive hinge]

the problem is almost no one is afk 😂

[wary forge]

So do you want to use him as a platform with his augment or what

[placid seal]

Platform but not the thermal sunder augment

[wary forge]

So then what’s the point then

The augment is like what he’s a good platform I mean without it works there’s just not point

[placid seal]

I don't like the augment so I don't wanna use it

[wary forge]

Interesting

[woeful hull]

should i keep leveling seration or is there something better to do even more damage

[wary forge]

Crit mods

[woeful hull]

i thought maybe the 12% wasnt worth going off of

[wary forge]

You don’t have the incarnon I see

Hmm

[woeful hull]

yes im still early

i can get 30% chance rn

[wary forge]

There’s faction mods

[woeful hull]

what are those ?

just the bane of ones ?

[wary forge]

Yes

[woeful hull]

i get it but i dont wanna change it after every run

[wary forge]

Well I mean if you’re doing the star chart it’s not that crazy u just change it after every planet

Vigilante armorments is 60% multishot as well

[woeful hull]

damn

[wary forge]

Your build is lowkey pretty fine i would just drop fast hands for any more dmg

[hexed lodge]

replace fast hands with 90% heat mod for better status weighting, but that is if you're willing to depart from reload QoL

[woeful hull]

just hellfire ?

[wary forge]

Also if you have it I would use vital acceleration

Over speed trigger

[woeful hull]

yea i dont have that

might have to farm that

[hexed lodge]

ye, you could alternatively outsource fire rate with the Reinforced Bond mod, but i'm not sure how far you are from getting said Bond mods

[woeful hull]

what lvl do i need to buy them ?

[hexed lodge]

glancing at the wiki
Rank 3 with the Fortuna syndicate

[woeful hull]

15 plat 🗣️

[hexed lodge]

but i agree with the glorp cat, your build is fine as is tbh, just gotta find better mods and/or get the incarnon adapter

[woeful hull]

what companion should i rock with that ?

i got diriga rn

[hexed lodge]

sadly diriga can't use it

[woeful hull]

zamn

yea not enough shield

[fierce lark]

wyrm prime and nautilus prime are the only sentinels that can

but wyrm also has imo the most useful precept for general play so it's good to have either way

[placid seal]

Is a tenet arca plasmor with 48 impact good?

[fierce lark]

would be better with 48 magnetic

[placid seal]

Idk if I have a magnetic frame

[fierce lark]

farm 2 more plasmors and make sure one of them has magnetic, and fuse them into yours

surely you have mag

[placid seal]

2 more.

[fierce lark]

or mesa

[placid seal]

Nope

[placid seal]

I do but no build

[fierce lark]

you don't really need a functioning build, just a xoris

you only have to play the frame once to spawn the sister, after that you can play w/e

[placid seal]

I don't have xoris build

[fierce lark]

what did you do to get your first sister?

[placid seal]

First sister yeah but I killed a few of liches before

[fierce lark]

no i mean how did you do the granum void if your xoris isn't built

[placid seal]

No. I don't have a build for it

[fierce lark]

you said that, so then what did you use to do the granum void?

[placid seal]

Xoris

But it has random mods on

[fierce lark]

so just do that again but on mesa

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Adversary_System/Progenitor

or anything else you own in the magnetic section here

[placid seal]

Ima just. Not do another sister

[fierce lark]

alternatively you can get get rank 5 hex and spend standing for an elemental vice to change the element to whatever whenever

[placid seal]

I was just going to geg that fron night wave and do that

[kind nymph]

need some feedback on my garuda build, seeing her proto inspired me

[placid seal]

Oh I don't even have mesa no more

[mighty flare]

dont need high strength on garuda actually, at minimum its just 139% strength
molt reconstruct usually replaces her 2 so you can use a subsume

[kind nymph]

oh i see

[hexed lodge]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1463140297759396071

[kind nymph]

changes have been made

[undone dust]

you can definitely get rid of streamline since bloodletting and molt recon is practically infinite energy

[mighty flare]

with overextended, you usually either use blind rage or transient fortitude + umbral intensify to reach the minimum threshold
garuda doesnt have heavy need of duration for narrow minded

this or that

[mighty flare]

to flex?

[dusky bane]

fair enough

[sand cedar]

What should be fixed or added. Im gonna have to forma it anyways.

[hollow scarab]

what are the best arcanes i should be getting first from roathe?

[limber tide]

how much dmg do yall think my wolf mom build can get

[old marsh]

Circumvent

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-roll-confuse-gif-11695636

And Persistence for your HP tanks

[trail palm]

Hoping for some advice to improve my oraxia build. I'm going for a persistence tank, using her 4's hp boost as well as nokko's shrooms for endless energy. She's done very well so far, but I want to get more toxin shards to improve something else.

[marble marten]

Is the Bubonico Coda any good? I'm not going to get rid of the Toxocysts, so I was hoping to get that weapon.

[trail palm]

She gets up to 8k hp with her 4 and a shroom, I think I can push it to 9k with a power drift. I'm just hoping to get something else

[trail palm]

its fantastic. If you have Uriel, you can alt fire bubonico while flying

[placid seal]

Acceltra build?

[old marsh]

Za best

[placid seal]

Low investment too

[old marsh]

What happens when u get a heat proc?

[trail palm]

I haven't been one-shot, so I've either never had persistence disabled or I can still tank when its disabled.

[old marsh]

if that works for u then what’s the issue?

[trail palm]

more and better, I guess? I'm mostly hoping for a way to get a blue shard off and slap another toxin shard in there for more killability

[solar reef]

dreamers bond 🥀

[trail palm]

I was either going to add more armor or more hp in that last spot

[placid seal]

Anyone got a low investment acceltra build? For steel path

[old marsh]

Nah. Keep the Blue. Your shards r fine as is.

U can drop archon stretch for regular stretch

Bright bonnet is good enough for energy

[trail palm]

True, I didn't even think about that, I'm so used to using archon stretch on everything ahah

[old marsh]

Use either an augur mod of choice OR Overextended

[dry flare]

Any tips on making builds to survive in SP?

[solar reef]

rolling guard + augur/brief

[old marsh]

Normally I would say Rolling guard but u r confident with Oraxia being a tank

[dry flare]

Gotcha. Thanks.

[trail palm]

If you don't have rolling, circumvent is a good alternative

[mighty flare]

oraxia is status immune in 4

[old marsh]

Rolling Guard + Circumvent

[trail palm]

oh dang, yeah. You know, I knew that when I made the build then forgot.

[solar reef]

ts is so gas

[old marsh]

Nullifier + Heat

[old marsh]

Honey & Peanut Butter for me

[solar reef]

Montreal marinated chicken over 7 grain wheat (slight spread of Hot Mustard), two slices colby jack, 2 slices bacon, and a slight drizzle of hot bbq

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-such-a-chud-gif-4577838426909657527

[old marsh]

Ngl I can’t even recall when was the last time I had a proper sandwich 😭

[solar reef]

side of roasted potato

[trail palm]

I appreciate the advice, I'll slap it together and see if it's better

[solar reef]

a good sandwich is day changing

i wont even lie ts was so good

i’ll probably be thinking about it for the next few days

[dense abyss]

Voruna 4th skill is worth to keep? seems like in higher levels the damage falloff really fast

[solar reef]

its usable at any level but ultimately it gets outperformed by melee

[mighty flare]

btw you asked about acuity braton right

[solar reef]

If you plan on melee platforming get rid of it

[solar reef]

boltor

I was just curious what underframe had to say about running acuity on it given its incarnon is a shotgun(?)

i have no plans on ever using it so it was more so an in-the-moment deal

[placid seal]

Energized munitions gauss prime build?

[solar reef]

because thats the weapon we were talking about last night

[dry flare]

Thank you all for the advice

[placid seal]

Nvm

[mighty flare]

same thing as burston, can run on assumption ur hitting every headshot (ur not), and and makes charge up worse

[solar reef]

i was mostly just wondering how capable it is of hitting headshots since ive not used it

thus i dont know how attrocious its spread is

i assumed multishot would just be better for the sole sake of it being a shotgun and 90% of your pellets arent going to touch heads

[limber tide]

dw abt that totally 100%

[mighty flare]

its fine at hitting heads, not as bad as you'd think
ms is just way comfier for everything overall

just doesnt favor acuity in general

[dusky bane]

pretty bad for acuity imo

[supple plover]

any recommended exilus mod for venka prime?

[idle hearth]

Is this a good build?

[celest geyser]

Would the ocucor be good for a nezha nuke build?

Idk much about the augment or what weapons are effective with it

[violet silo]

"oh man I have so much forma, what should I do with it all"
the dastardly boar prime:

7 forma in

[timber sparrow]

does koumei need strength?

[hollow scarab]

#1497382769565896724 if anyone would like to help out imma just leave this heare instead of putting it all in builds chat

[mighty flare]

no

[timber sparrow]

but i guess it should be positive

[fierce lark]

doesn't need to be

max rank impetus gives you 78% anyways

[timber sparrow]

wtf?

[fierce lark]

that is what catalyzing shields does yes

[mighty flare]

doesnt matter if ur using cata, any amount of damage restored by omamori gives 1.33s gate

can just subsume over 4 to use precision intensify

[timber sparrow]

i get 1.33s of shield gate to have 44 shields?

thats crazy

[fierce lark]

pretty much what catshields does, 1.33s shieldgate any time you get hit by pretty much anything

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a non-helminth rhino prime build for steel path?

[timber sparrow]

ill do without it 💀

am i memeing i dont know what else to do

dont mind my capacity not even being enough for 2 more mods

ill fix that

[worthy ruin]

What element is good for the coda hema

[fierce lark]

magnetic/radiation

depends on if you bother to slot magnetic capacity in the build somewhere

impact is probably better than rad tbh

maximize elements for multico

[indigo vapor]

Can someone give me a good Saryn prime Steel path build?

[placid seal]

Arca plasmor build?

[mighty flare]

its raw corrosive with toxin progen + external viral from like nourish

[placid seal]

I need so much vitus essence...

[hollow scarab]

is this a good sp rhino? or can i make it better? (no helminth)

[mighty flare]

dont need flow + battery
equilibrium can replace streamline + energize

[hollow scarab]

so what do i do instead of energize?

[tidal parrot]

more strength

[fierce lark]

augmented/concentration

[lavish orbit]

I would say augmented if you just want a sht tons of overguard to spray and pray later

[placid seal]

What arcane I run on Acra plasmor

[fierce lark]

primary merciless

or deadhead

[placid seal]

And not deadhead?

Well which is better

[mighty flare]

deadhead

[fierce lark]

the build meats sent uses tactical pump so the rls from merciless isn't that noticeable

deadhead is easier to stack & maintain

but arca plasmor doesn't have innate headshot bonus so it does force you to aim for heads when you otherwise wouldn't care to

[placid seal]

This is what I'm running

[fierce lark]

no cannonade i beg

plasmor has multiplicative damage scaling with galv aptitude so you really want to run that

[placid seal]

You mean savvy?

[fierce lark]

uh yeah

you're also running elementalist but no damaging elemental status

[placid seal]

What do I swap cannonade with then

[placid seal]

I have that as a sub for savvy

I don't have savvy

[fierce lark]

savvy, or primed point blank until you get it

[placid seal]

So I swap cannonade with shotgun barrage and elementalist with savvy?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[placid seal]

Wait shotgun barrage or point blank

[fierce lark]

im blind and missed that you have charged shell

[fierce lark]

both

[placid seal]

This?

[rose wedge]

which one sounds better?

[regal carbon]

What should I throw into that last slot (Riven is CD as elc - corpus)

[regal carbon]

Right

[prime scarab]

Who should I build next?

I'm having the most fun with Vauban, Grendel, Nokko, Follie, these days, so the ones that just use abilities, mostly.

[fierce lark]

that looks fine for now

[placid seal]

Ok cool then swap point blank for savvy later?

[opal leaf]

@solar reef yo dude

Can you test this out? Idk what site you use to calculate the numbers

I'll get Melee Crescendo later

[fierce lark]

ye

[placid seal]

Ok ty

[timber sparrow]

VHATTTTTT!!

80k

[opal leaf]

What?

[hollow scarab]

is this better then?

[opal leaf]

Yeah

Some can reach 100k

[timber sparrow]

how

[opal leaf]

And above

[opal leaf]

It's just ash

[hollow scarab]

how do i make this good? im sure its just cuz im being an idiot but it feels meh even though i know it can do better

(im tryna make rhino into gigachad prime grineer)

[solar reef]

get rid of magnetic

I told you this yesterday, theres no real reason to use it on ash

[opal leaf]

It's not really for the magnet, it's for added base dmg and It's for atk speed

That's why I use Magnetic Rush

20% more attack speed

[solar reef]

theres better in-slots for that

if you were just worried about attack speed you’d be using berserkers fury instead, to boot

[brazen vortex]

only change i would make is galvanized steel

[opal leaf]

Hmm good point

Can you still test it?

Like on the site you used?

[solar reef]

i’d, once again, just recommend this build

its underframe

[opal leaf]

Oh what????

[solar reef]

you also have influence slotted

not only is ash just a bad candidate for influence, you cant proc it to begin witb since you dont have electric

[opal leaf]

Yeah I don't have Crescendo /Exposure yet

I'm farming later

But yeah

[solar reef]

Also, you have no CO

[opal leaf]

Is it mandatory?

[solar reef]

if you want to shit our damage numbers, yeah?

its one of the most important melee mods in the game

even if you werent building ash you’d want it

for 90% of your generic melee setups its a better slot-in than Primed Pressure Point

[opal leaf]

Ah I srr

[solar reef]

ash is just one of odd balls where you build for a shit load of raw

so you want PPP and CO alongside a few more additive sources

hell this isnt even a min-maxxed set up, ideally you’d run a bane mod

likely over finishing touch

[opal leaf]

Damn

My god hahahahahahah

[hollow scarab]

over what? true?

[finite sparrow]

I’m trying out the okina prime for the first time and this is the build I came up with from some videos I saw but I feel like the build could be better and more damage. Anyone know how I can make it better?

[opal leaf]

Yes

[solar reef]

but I also know that lirs of folks just dont like use faction mods

[brazen vortex]

yes

[solar reef]

this is so cheeks

[opal leaf]

I am one of them hahaha

[hollow scarab]

but the elements and all that are good?

or shold i run magnetic radiation toxin instead of mag viral

[finite sparrow]

But I was using on some sp missions and it was doing decently

[solar reef]

You’re modding for ips, which is immediately a big yuck. Influence? You don’t even have electricity, theres no point.

[solar reef]

duh, because its okina incarnon

[brazen vortex]

i would actually use galvanized for both true steel and organ shatter freeing up a slot for anything else

[sonic hawk]

anyone have a good khora build for farming?

[solar reef]

you could kill enemies with it unmodded

[brazen vortex]

i think your build is great

@finite sparrow have you completed the star chart?

[finite sparrow]

For sp not yet I came back to the game last week since just after the end of Covid

[brazen vortex]

if you want to run through it ill help you out just give me a call

[solar reef]

https://overframe.gg/build/668223/okina-prime/okina-prime-incarnon-electric-influence/
This would be my recommended build,
If you dont want to use banes just use Pressure Point

Quickening can also be slotted for Fury(berserkers/primed optional)

as is you have a hodge-podge of mods the demerit each other (mostly slotting random ips and influence without electricity)

[brazen vortex]

i would switch to heat mag corrosive honestly

@finite sparrow there are mods that are imperritive to end game and i am always willing to help a brother out

[solar reef]

you can also use some sloppy careen setup for okina but from what I’ve seen, numbers wise, its just copium trying to find an excuse to use the new arcanes

i think the hype for that set ups died down a lot

[brazen vortex]

arent the okina pretty good even modless?