builds-discussion

[astral warren]

I guess low investment

[solar reef]

good, being at that level means that chroma wont feel as underwhelming

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-4693057381493629157

[wary forge]

do u have arcane persistence

[astral warren]

Hold on

[thin zephyr]

Someone recommended this build for Uriel for energy is it worth am missing Growing power Cunning drift Overextended Blind rage Constitution am missing these and before I farm I wanna know if the builds good

[astral warren]

Sadly not

[wary forge]

ok

[astral warren]

Do i need need that to make him work?

[wary forge]

no

[fierce lark]

constitution is 4% more duration over augur message for almost double the mod cost, i wouldn’t bother with that one

rest is good and worth having in general, although arcane energize is very troll

[wary forge]

its just better then lazy gating on him specificly

so if u can get it i would

[astral warren]

Oh ok

[astral warren]

And what's lazy gating?

[thin zephyr]

This is the energy build I use for Uriel and run out of energy I use his 2 ability for survival

[fierce lark]

you need strength

also battery is useless he has no armor

[thin zephyr]

I put it on today lol I was swapping things

[fierce lark]

the amount of orbs dropped by his 2 demon’s passive scales very aggressively with ability strength

[thin zephyr]

So take it off

Or keep

[fierce lark]

high/max range, high strength, high duration and archon vit

[thin zephyr]

Keep or get them off?

[fierce lark]

my build is basically this but with hotshot+concentration for arcanes and archon intensify instead of constitution

and corrosive projection aura

[thin zephyr]

lol can I see your build to see if I got the mods

[astral warren]

Pfft that's neat

[fierce lark]

i lied i also have transient in place of equi because of violet shards

[wary forge]

1 forma lazy gate

arcane aegis only needs to be rank 1

u honestly dont need rolling guard but ye

[thin zephyr]

Wait names of the arcane I need lol

[fierce lark]

hot shot & concentration

[thin zephyr]

Ty

[fierce lark]

hotshot is like 500p max rank i wouldn’t worry about it

run molt aug instead

[thin zephyr]

How do you farm it

[fierce lark]

it’s also not farmable outside of gambling vosfor

[fierce lark]

it drops from temporal archimedea

or rarely from hollvania arcane packs from loid

[thin zephyr]

Am to bad at the game and I don’t got rank 5 with them

[barren birch]

aight now before I forma I need a syam build :)

[stoic olive]

is phahd the best scaffold?

[opal leaf]

Normal
Influence
Build :3

[barren birch]

that's light attack o3o I'm spamming heavy

[thin zephyr]

Cunning drift
Transient fortitude
Overextended
For mods I need

[thin zephyr]

And I got one concentration

[opal leaf]

Yeah change the other weapons into Heavy Attack Efficiency like condition oberload

[barren birch]

I don't know how to read this mess of a guide tbh

[opal leaf]

Hmmm... I'll give you a direct and easy one

[barren birch]

thanks I have a low attention meter and this is too pixely for me ;-;

[opal leaf]

https://overframe.gg/build/747677/syam/x5-syam-casual-influence-spam/

What you see in there, is what the Syam Needs

[barren birch]

since I'm heavy spamming I could just replace galv reflex with corrupt charge no?

just checking if I'm being dumb

[opal leaf]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Ur not, just ask if you don't understand, we are in a build discussion for a reason

[thin zephyr]

Cunning drift
Transient fortitude
Overextended
For mods I need
I got maxed concentration and zero hot shot
@fierce lark

[opal leaf]

What's this for? If I can ask

[thin zephyr]

Uriel energy build

[opal leaf]

Why do you need energy on Uriel?

[thin zephyr]

His second ability and stuff

[opal leaf]

He... Doesn't need it?

Or do you mean to generate more energy

[thin zephyr]

Yeah just to like not run out of energy because I use his 2 ability for survival

[opal leaf]

Wait you ran out of energy???????

On Uriel????

Where you don't have to worry on energy because he generates SO MUCH energy????

[thin zephyr]

I kinda ability pannic spam a lot lol

[opal leaf]

Don't...

Use 1 and 3 and you are good

2 for healing the demons and you

There is no reason to spam because you are using the maddest frame in the existence hahahah

That's why I'm Confused on why you are worried in energy unless you don't have Equilibrium

[thin zephyr]

I do it’s not maxed though

[opal leaf]

Even so

[thin zephyr]

My build

[opal leaf]

Remove arcane energize for Molt augmented

Remove energy nexus for blind rage

[near vortex]

does your companion have synth Deconstruct

[opal leaf]

Range (Overextended and Stretch) to swallow the area as far and large as possible

Duration (Augur Message and Continuity) so that it'll linger longer

Strength (Blind Rage and Intensify) as not that much needed because he procs so much heat if you have his 1 always on

Efficiency, leave that bc he make enemies explode on health and energy orbs, just use flow and equilibrium and you're good

Flex (Archon Vitality) to support his heat

[thin zephyr]

I don’t own blind rage and the arcane is unranked

[near vortex]

does your companion have synth deconstruct

[opal leaf]

Hmm

Remove energy nexus for Overextended or augur reach

[hard palm]

Anything I should change?

[thin zephyr]

I have the augur

[near vortex]

molt augmented is easy to get
Just run cascade fissures sometimes

[opal leaf]

Aight

Do that

[fierce lark]

as good as it is, you don't even need it on uriel, just 200 strength on his 2 passive generates 6 health orbs and 2 energy orbs every kill

[near vortex]

I mean, if you aren't running synth deconstruct on a companion in general you probably have issues

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's good to go

Remember this

Don't panic

[thin zephyr]

Steel path is scary lol

[thin zephyr]

I have it now lol

[opal leaf]

Hahaha it's not that scary bc you have Uriel

I never seen Uriel Fail

[thin zephyr]

lol I don’t fail I just take ages lol

[opal leaf]

Hahah don't worry om uriel

He proc heat like no other frame can do

[thin zephyr]

Poor ember 😭Also do it matter that molt is unranked

[barren birch]

is it possible to do blast and heat? in any way?

[opal leaf]

Yeah kinda

Just switch to arcane energize than this bc yu will just get like 10% ability strength on r0 molt

[opal leaf]

No

Melee like them electric

[thin zephyr]

Okay but should I farm for max rank on it then switch it out

[barren birch]

yea I know melee likes electric but I like fire

[opal leaf]

Yes

[barren birch]

but since it's for influence bleh

[thin zephyr]

What’s the best farm for it

[opal leaf]

Yeah you can't do fire bc... Fire

[opal leaf]

Molt is in Zariman

Do Cascade or Void Cascade for a couple times

[modern yoke]

Anyone mind helping me with an Unranked Caliban Prime Build?

[thin zephyr]

Is it direct drop or do I gotta then go buy it from one of the venders

[opal leaf]

Direct drop from void angels

[barren birch]

ok voltaic strike isn't happening that's 69 plat and not availalbe

[thin zephyr]

Got it is it better on steel path?

[celest rampart]

im here from discussion no clue lol

[opal leaf]

It is but dangerous

[thin zephyr]

Public got my back lol

[hard palm]

Ig it's fine then

Ty tho

[celest rampart]

probably the riven is good you could roll for a negative idk

[near vortex]

all you need for public Cascade is to be able to kill Thrax and not die

[thin zephyr]

Well time to give oporator even more trauma

[modern yoke]

Anyone?

[solar reef]

why unranked

[near vortex]

because bro can't do a level 40 defense

[modern yoke]

Because I just crafted him yesterday and Potatoed him today, I like going into leveling Frames with as much of a solid build as I can get

[solar reef]

it takes 3 minutes to max a frame with POE method

you do you I guess

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-pet-cat-pat-cat-petting-petting-cat-gif-88141326984537530

[modern yoke]

Actually, leveling anything with that

[unkempt jay]

Right one is better right?

Or is it bad bc of the -slash

Still kinda confused with that

[fierce lark]

right is good

godroll neg is -slash

influence melees want -slash or whatever their highest IPS is

max elec weighting

[unkempt jay]

Oh so you typically one a negative on their main IPS for influence as you said

Gotcha

[timber sparrow]

hi i just got titania so i modded her based on a guide is this ok?

its only for speedrunning capture and things like that

[cursive wedge]

will the hate mod ever return?

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a steel path amanata build i can steal?ive heard its really good but havent put any forma into it

[unkempt jay]

Alright another one. Right side right?

[hollow scarab]

probably as a future NW remix reward or for NW creds

[timber sparrow]

right bro

[unkempt jay]

I dunno how awkward +zoom is

[timber sparrow]

actually the grineer damage seems kinda bad

idk tho

[timber sparrow]

its a torid do you ever right click

[prime scarab]

yeah all the time

[hollow scarab]

this is what i have rn cuz im just leveling it

[prime scarab]

Makes me feel like I'm doin something

[hollow scarab]

or would the guandao be a better weapon?

[timber sparrow]

well too bad stop right clicking

[prime scarab]

you got it boss

[unkempt jay]

Ok right mobile also has autofire

So I shouldn't be aiming anyways

[prime scarab]

sorry mobile has what now

[unkempt jay]

It autofires when your crosshair has an enemy

And it tracks them

[prime scarab]

That is...hilarious

[unkempt jay]

It's a setting

[prime scarab]

God if that ever comes to PC the lazy framing is going to go crazy

Does it make it tough to headshot?

[unkempt jay]

Headshot is op in mobile

Bc of auto aim

[elfin sluice]

what matters more on titania is what you put on her pistols than her main body. how're her pistols looking?

[unkempt jay]

I usually have the most headshots on a run bc of it

Downside is movement

[prime scarab]

Thats so funny. I guess its fair since you're playing on a dang phone

[timber sparrow]

i think her stuff matters too if i wanna zip around on void capture but i havent modded the pistols yet

[prime scarab]

On void capture you need primed flow and a tick rate of 2-3 on her 4 and thats...really it

Everything else is comfort

The pistols are 100% where you should devote your energy

[elfin sluice]

for just capture, all that matters is arcane velocity(staple for all setups on her), razorwing blitz & preparation. that's really it

[prime scarab]

I can't do arcane velocity man

It feels so weird

[elfin sluice]

and inverted tap/hold setups for faster blitz buildup(via spamming spellbind)

[prime scarab]

Xata's if you're gonna take it to cap

but yeah the enemies barely even look at her these days so

You've got a lot of room on her main kit

Its the pistols that really do stuff. Make em blast.

[timber sparrow]

eh?

[prime scarab]

viral eh

Push for blast to get some aoe

[elfin sluice]

and an augur mod weaved in there somewhere to keep your shields topped up. augur message if you only care about capture since both efficiency & duration reduce its drain-over-time.

[prime scarab]

You can also toss augur pact on the gun

OH one other tip that I LOVE with titania. You can get full knockdown immunity with just your exilus slot. You run Motus Signal and then slot the other motus pieces in to your NON EXALTED gear.

Easy if you don't have prime surefooted yet

[elfin sluice]

you're also immune to knockdown just by maintaining your razorwing blitz stacks if s1 is how you're doing it

[prime scarab]

Yeah definitely true but for newer titania players I find the comfort of motus helps

It really helped me

Of course I was playing alongside a volt a lot at the time so it may just have been those rare moments

[timber sparrow]

also what do her abilities do besides the 1 and 4

[prime scarab]

the wiki has the info but uuuuuh....not...really...much that you care about

Tribute is fine. It does what it says it does.

Lantern is...not great imo

It'll likely be your subsume

[timber sparrow]

i dont subsume

[prime scarab]

Thats an interesting take but its your game

You won't use her 3 much then

It doesn't do much now that razorflies have been buffed

[cursive wedge]

what are the best stats for despair?

idk if status is important with it

[prime scarab]

Just a warning, you are going to have a fairly rough time without subsume on Titania if you take her to level cap. She is absolutely fine all the way up until like 2000 but from there you're gonna start having to stop and fire into enemies for extended periods to get kills.

She's still going to survive just fine

But her damage will fall off.

[elfin sluice]

i forget, does the furax' amalgam mod affect titania's pistils?

[timber sparrow]

im not going to level cap anyways i dont have time for that

[prime scarab]

yes on the card but no in the mission

[solar reef]

status is always important

[prime scarab]

Reason being that in the Arsenal you still have the furax equipped

But when you hit your 4 it unequips

Some effects do carry over but that one doesn't

[solar reef]

this is what you’d typically roll for

[cursive wedge]

ty, also got this riven for vasto im shaking

but idk about vasto builds

[solar reef]

why are you shaking

[prime scarab]

he's cold

[solar reef]

thats nor good

https://tenor.com/view/not-everyone-has-an-iphone-gif-7021079305409267183

[hollow scarab]

https://overframe.gg/build/813720/amanata/duplicate-amanata-pressure-double-forced-procs-raw-corrosive-v200/

is this a good build? or eh

forbeing able to still deal good damage on sp

[solar reef]

i mean

its a duplicate build, so take it with a grain of salt

[long bolt]

Where do I get tome mods? Specifically for dante. Or do I just not use that weapon? I read someone subsumed over it..

[solar reef]

amanatas ok in steel path in general, i wouldnt use it for Duplicate

its just another CRABSWEAT weapon

except you’d use the augment instead of CO probably

[hollow scarab]

its just ok? i got it cuz someone told me it was one of the best polearms

[solar reef]

its just ok

its augment makes it a base path champ

[hollow scarab]

what should i get if i want to have a sp champ polearm tho?

[solar reef]

Its one of the better polearms but theres only so many good polearms

its mostly a stance issue

polearm stances are pretty awkward

[hollow scarab]

i use the one (i cannot remember the name) with like the spin and flip move

[solar reef]

Guandao Prime is still probably the best polearm excluding contagion zaws but thats just cheating

[hollow scarab]

so should i make a contagion zaw? would that be best?

[solar reef]

contagion zaws are good because of contagion

you wouldnt be using the actual polearm part

[hollow scarab]

cuz i also have the guandao but im looking to have just a busted polearm

[solar reef]

yeah you’re sorta out of luck

[hollow scarab]

and the orthos but the orthos just feels kida eh

[solar reef]

theres not any polearms that are just blatanly insane

[hollow scarab]

ok busted in the sense of polearms

[solar reef]

they’re all just ok or good

[hollow scarab]

like ik a glaive or dual swords or sigh that infested incarnon with the infinite gas gloud

[solar reef]

Like once again the best polearm would always be contagion zaws but thats not really a polearm deal thats just contagion

[hollow scarab]

ah

[solar reef]

why sigh

Dual Ichor is awesome

[hollow scarab]

oh cuz for like a month my old clan wouldnt stfu about the ichor

[solar reef]

Vortex Dual Ichor is one of the most fun melees in the game

[elfin sluice]

would that non-functionality apply for mesa's regulators as well, perchance?

[prime scarab]

That much I can't say. I haven't personally tested Mesa the way I have Titania.

[hollow scarab]

guess im going back to the guandao then. cuz it doesnt sound like the contagion deals damage from hits very much

[prime scarab]

I will note that Mesa doesn't technically unequip her other weapons when she uses her 4 the way Titania does, IIRC

[solar reef]

contagion has the highest damage instances you can get out of a weapon in the game

its just not what you’re looking for if you want to use Polearms as polearms

[hollow scarab]

yeah mainly cuz i started watching maul and well...

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-darth-maul-e7FOBuKCDtwWI

[solar reef]

oh dont use polarms use staves

[hollow scarab]

like the bo?

[solar reef]

Bo Incarnon is nuts

[prime scarab]

scythes would give you the energy too

can get a lot of spinning jedi style moves

[solar reef]

bo incarnon is by far top 3 melee in the game

[hollow scarab]

is there a good bo incarnon setup cuz i do have that i just dont have a build or know what to pick for my incarnon perks

[prime scarab]

Really??

Its good but that feels like overhyping it to me

Whats your top 3?

[solar reef]

Unbiased: Xoris, Bo(Inc), Anything Contagion

[prime scarab]

Huh.

Maybe we just look for different things in a melee weapon then.

[solar reef]

some honorable mentions include Syam, Glaive P, Nami Solo(inc)

[prime scarab]

Not even an HM for Harmony or Corufell?

[solar reef]

no lol

[prime scarab]

I love them tho they're so fun

[solar reef]

Corufell has the same niche as Syam its just worse

Still a phenomenal weapon though

[hollow scarab]

do you have a good bo inc setup or is the top from overframe just what i should use

[prime scarab]

I like Corufell better than Syam tbh

[solar reef]

Harmony is really really good at what it does but what it does isnt all that unique

[solar reef]

I would just use whatever Ninjase uses

[solar reef]

and thats ok

you can prefer things

[prime scarab]

Actually no I can't

[solar reef]

Syams just insane like that though

[hollow scarab]

im starting to realize that name is just kinda the xclusiveace of warframe

[prime scarab]

I do need to try Syam on Kullervo. I subsumed him before giving it a shot.

[solar reef]

Kullervo isnt where it shines

Though its obviously still insane on him

Same goes for Corufell

They’re MultiCO

[prime scarab]

Who is your pick for the best Syam user then?

[solar reef]

Voruna.

NO doubt

[prime scarab]

Oh, couldn't even argue there. I haven't gotten around to her yet.

I have her prime parts sitting but Grendel is really holding on to me

[solar reef]

Syam and Corufells projectoles are MultiCO

Voruna applies 10 stacks of all 13 moddable status

1+1=2000 in this case

its kinda silly

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I do wanna get her moving eventually. She looks REALLY fun.

[solar reef]

On multiCO weapons, the effects of Condition Overload is multiplicative with damage sources rather than additive

[hollow scarab]

dude i want them to rework gunblades and glaives so bad. i want the gunblades to have the glaive system of splitting the combos from the ranged attacks and the glaives to get a close melee hit buff. cuz i really like the redeemer prime but i hate the combos. they are too focused on the gun part and not enough on the blade part. i get that its a gunsword but it just feels like a third gun and not a sword with a gun on it. like gimme one that has nice flowy melee strikes that either finish with a blast or blast mid swing instead of the choppy "stop and shoot every 2 seconds" combo

[prime scarab]

Any frame with an interesting mobility usually works well for me. Even if I can't use her 4 as primary damage I can definitely get it efficiencied low enough to move in and out of it for mobility in open world, right? Toss a cast speed on there to get it a quick transition?

[solar reef]

her 4 is all or nothing

you either build for it or you subsume it

[prime scarab]

Disappointing.

[solar reef]

her 1st passive is more than enough for movement

[prime scarab]

Yeah was just lookin forward to runnin around like a wolf

[solar reef]

She has 4 passives (3 if you subsume her abilities)

her 1st is like 75% parkour speed

[elfin sluice]

has the benefit of up/down aiming, but yeah

[prime scarab]

I'll probably end up building into her 4 then frankly.

I value the fun over the meta in all but a few frames

[solar reef]

the only case where corufell is better is stairs for this reason 😭

[prime scarab]

And then just take those frames if I care about being meta

[solar reef]

I just happen to find her 4 terrible feeling and way less fun

ive been maining her for four years

so i know what i like on her atp

[prime scarab]

Yeah? Is it worse movement than Grendel 3? Because I am giddy over here in Grendel 3

[solar reef]

its nothing like that

[elfin sluice]

voruna's s4 is effectively a worse version of atlas' landslide, if you're familiar with that

[prime scarab]

ew what

[solar reef]

The 4 thing isnt a big movement upgrade or anything

[prime scarab]

It looks like it should be

[solar reef]

you just happen to run differently

[prime scarab]

thats dumb

[solar reef]

its literally just an animation change

[prime scarab]

It should come with a speed boost lmao

[solar reef]

her 1st’s passive is her speed boost

[prime scarab]

Right but I just mean if you're going to go through the trouble of adding a new movement animation....

[solar reef]

but no I say it feels awkward in the sense that its just clunky and awkward

[prime scarab]

it should DO something for the movement

[solar reef]

not as in it feels weird to move with

[prime scarab]

Yeah maybe I won't run it after all

[elfin sluice]

technically speaking, voruna's s4 does give a flat +50% movement speed

but you just won't ever notice it since the attacks hurl you

[solar reef]

its just that with how you use it its not as big of a point

[prime scarab]

Ah so its a la kullervo 1?

[solar reef]

since you’re always leaping with either her 4 or her 2

[solar reef]

no but also yes

[prime scarab]

Not literally teleporting but conceptually

I get it

[elfin sluice]

more akin to landslide

[solar reef]

yes in the sense that you go hurling towards an enemy

[prime scarab]

I haven't touched Atlas yet either lol

I tend to only move on from a frame after I've level capped them a couple times and get bored soooo I'm not even 25% through the roster yet

[solar reef]

but yeah multiCO weapons on Voruna are so silly

[prime scarab]

oh she's a perma invis character? I might push her down the list then

[solar reef]

shes not perma invis

Her invisibility breaks when you attack

[elfin sluice]

look at enemy -> hit button -> power makes you move really fast at the enemy and whack them.
atlas has this with a moddable weapon with insane crit-based aoe damage that one-shots entire rooms with blood rush ramped up.
voruna has this as a regular ability attack that requires ramp-up.

[elfin sluice]

her invisibility gets instantly broken when she starts attacking, and after that point an alternative version of wrathful advance's buff applies

[solar reef]

this is a brain dead, slowed down example of melee voruna

its not perma invisibility

[elfin sluice]

it's invisiblity that turns into wrathful advance

[prime scarab]

Ah, I see. That does look interesting at least.

You're not having to worry about combo it seems

I like that.

[elfin sluice]

primary/secondary dexterity on your archgun solves combo duration generally, extending it to twenty seconds

[solar reef]

she just does numbers

[solar reef]

i dont use anything like that

I just build for Galv Reflex

[deep grotto]

Im beginning to prep for H-09 Apex solo so i can get the accolade glyphs
Any suggestions? Volt is a work in progress rn
And i know it’s suboptimal but i want to keep the triumbrals

[solar reef]

galv reflex keeps you at a permanant 5x combo

[prime scarab]

this feels pretty heavily unintended so ive always ignored it

[solar reef]

its essential for heavy spam weapons

[prime scarab]

Yeah, I was seeing that on your HUD. I'll check into that. I'm generally an ability frame kinda guy but I'm branching out.

[solar reef]

Her best subsume for melee platforming is Roar as it also benefits her 2’s status nuke

[elfin sluice]

Some other stuff related to archgun arcanes affecting main weaponry was noted and patched after their release, and the dexterity arcanes were just as talked-about as those other ones when they were around, so they probably were intentionally left alone.

[solar reef]

WA is just a funny alternative

[solar reef]

to expand on this, melee platform builds and 4 spam builds arent actually those

they’re really just 2 nuke builds

its just a matter of how you kill enemies to reach that status nuke

[prime scarab]

Or they were tougher to fix. The fact that its the ONLY arcane that works this way is suspicious at best.

[stiff talon]

Does anybody have a good SP ready build for the nikana prime? Im MR 13 and its about dang time i start slashing through high level enemies. This is the build im using.

[prime scarab]

That makes sense. She's a rip and tear type of frame.

[solar reef]

the reason you’ll see so many Heavy setups and Slam setups is obviously due to how her invisibility functions

Since it breaks after you attack, the goal is to get as much out of one attack as possible (aoe slam, influence heavy attacks, yada yada)

if you just wanted to meta slave her you’d MagiSlam with her

I find that lame so I stick to a heavy spam Hate or Syam

Harmony is a really fun pick for her

[stiff talon]

Isnt that for the coda motovore?

[solar reef]

No? Its for EVERY generic light spam weapon

[prime scarab]

Yeah I tend to go slightly off-meta in my setups. A lot of the builds that max out for level cap content actually OVER invest in certain stuff and safely can be made weaker for comfort without sacrificing meaningful effectiveness.

Or in the case of Grendel I just be zoomin

[solar reef]

i mean my “meta” setup for voruna is comfortable at base content as well

[stiff talon]

Oooohhh got it!

[solar reef]

I find her as comfortable at level 200 as I do at level 9999

heres my melee setup if you ever choose to go that path

you’d drop the blue shard for something else since Prime doesnt need it

Vorunas a super comfortable survivability frame with just one shield gate mod (brief or augur, doesnt matter which)

[hollow scarab]

whats a good prisma skana inc build?

[solar reef]

just follow ninjase

hes got good generalist setups, hes pretty reliable

i wouldnt trust his frame setups blindly but his weapon guides should be pretty comfortable

as weapon building really is just numbers and statsheets

[hollow scarab]

it doesnt say anything for the perks to pick

[prime scarab]

His frame guides are generally good proof of concept at least

And the other good thing about his guides is the comment sections are full of people arguing so if you want to see some other options you can check there

[mighty flare]

would not look at comments for guidance

[prime scarab]

Right, not guidance but options. Like different mods to use,

Tons of people saying " try this" or "try that"

[hollow scarab]

so what incarnon evos are good for the skana then?

doesnt give an arcane either so imma just slap like exposure or smth on there. that rocosive one

[glass ember]

question going into steel path and more end game should i still mod according to the weaknesses of the enemy faction or should i stick with a combo elemental mod build and go for high damage im trying to understand this modding system lol

[coral kelp]

would anyone help out with a riven stat choice for the strun?

[solar reef]

generally speaking you’ll just be running per weapon elemental setups
you likely wont change them depending on enemy weaknesses

9/10 times melee weapons will be using electric/influenve

[glass ember]

oh so for like torid incarnon i would mod with toxin?

[solar reef]

9/10 guns will be using viral, corrosive, and/or heat

torid likes corrosive blast

[glass ember]

oohhh

[elfin sluice]

generally speaking, the "building for a specific faction" bit is limited to changing the "x1.X damage against faction" mods.
the elements you choose tend to be for specific other purposes - viral for general damage multiplication, heat for overtime damage, corrosive for reducing enemy armor values et cetera.

[glass ember]

ok ill try that that rn

[solar reef]

youre more interested in what the status does rather than weaknesses

[elfin sluice]

Some elements have special interactions with things, e. g. blast status effects making xata's whisper do even more damage
the element you choose depends more on what it's working with rather than what it's hitting

[coral kelp]

should I stick with +cd, +ammo max, +cc, but -SD? or choose +damage, and +multi? this is for the strun

[solar reef]

-SD is pretty bad

ammo max doesnt matter on incarnons

[glass ember]

gotchaaa

[coral kelp]

so damage and multi is the move?

[solar reef]

the - makes option one unusable

[coral kelp]

gotcha thank you

[coral kelp]

I dunno what would be considered a god roll for this gun so I was just curious

[solar reef]

the ultimate “god roll” would be MS, CD, Elem of choice, and -impact

if it was just for the sake of selling that element would be tox

[coral kelp]

I'm more so trying to sell this more than using it

ahh gotcha

[solar reef]

shotguns are the only weapon category where SC can be considered a godroll stat

so you have at least one more option

[coral kelp]

I'll keep rolling since I dunno how much the riven would be right now

[solar reef]

i’d just roll it until groll

keep as a side-piece for cashing out later

[hollow scarab]

i really wish you could toggle the incarnon to be visual. i cant run a skin cuz the incarnon will just remove it and make my wepon ugly

[coral kelp]

I think I got a better one just now

[solar reef]

this is a common complaint

[coral kelp]

+SD, +DMG, +CC, -reload speed

[solar reef]

id keep the original roll

+SD isnt great and -reload speed is annoying for incarnons

reload speed affects how fast it changes forms

Status duration is a good stat but you dont really need or want to increase it

[coral kelp]

dang I didn't know

[solar reef]

its best left neutral

[coral kelp]

-weapon recoil, +SD, +CC, -impact?

just got this one now

[solar reef]

not a good roll

-impact is great

the rest is pretty bleh

keep in mind that -recoil is actually the + for recoil

as its decreasing the amount of recoil on the weapon

[solar reef]

i’d just keep rolling until you get a combination of this

[coral kelp]

I'll keep trying til I run out of kuva

[echo lava]

anyone know if i can make this garuda prime build better

[remote bay]

what stats should I go for on a Enkaus riven?

[timber sparrow]

im ngl ive been going through builds for whipclaw on overframe and idk the direction to go really

[spice willow]

Could I use Lavos + acceltra prime to endgame

[timber sparrow]

like okay this one exists https://overframe.gg/build/827172/whipclaw-prime/whipclaw-magnetic-toxin-vortex-automatic-pull-for-looting/

but i bet that wont max out the damage it can do

[solar reef]

i wouldnt even recommend rolling it

Its dispo is literally as low as could possibly be

[timber sparrow]

i know not a thing about melees so im extra clueless

[novel bear]

This is for looting
If you’re not looting, go influence

[solar reef]

define end game

[timber sparrow]

why is it always influence

[spice willow]

Steel path maybe?

[solar reef]

because influence is just so muchs stronger than everything else

[tawny gyro]

best arcane in the game its not eben close

[solar reef]

yeah it can clear steel path

I wouldnt try to take it into LC or anything though

Its a pretty whatever weapon

unfortunately the biggest noob trap in the game

youtubers and overframe have glazed it into the ground for years

[tawny gyro]

i just think it uses too much ammo

for the amount of dmg it does

[solar reef]

which isnt a lot

[tawny gyro]

ya

[solar reef]

if you enjoy the acceltra i’d just look forward to the burston incarnon

[timber sparrow]

so like https://overframe.gg/build/823845/whipclaw-prime/high-lvl-sp-destruction-nuke-for-millions/

[solar reef]

i miss magistar/ceramic dagger whipclaw

[timber sparrow]

idk why organ shatter there seems like something better could go there

[novel bear]

Organ shatter is good

[solar reef]

why? Its crit damage

[novel bear]

I’d put galv elementalist over normal

[tawny gyro]

CD is goated

[novel bear]

If you’re using purple shards there might be better options than organ shatter
But probably not

[timber sparrow]

i dont even have shards 😭

or more specifically helminth

[novel bear]

Maybe voltaic strike

[solar reef]

if youre asking how to build khora id assume theres no purple shards

[tawny gyro]

its also a priming build

so if you dont like primers i wouldnt use CO

[spice willow]

What's that

[novel bear]

Level cap

[solar reef]

level cap

[timber sparrow]

well it just says i can swap in ppp

[solar reef]

The acceltra falls off really hard on damage

[tawny gyro]

yeah ofc

[solar reef]

past level 200 its a pea shooter

[spice willow]

If I play normally would I hit level cap

[solar reef]

no

[spice willow]

So lc wouldn't really matter

Then is Lavos good

[timber sparrow]

so overframe build is good

[solar reef]

I cant stand him

[timber sparrow]

im just gonna copy it

[novel bear]

Change melee elementalist to galvanized if you have it

[tawny gyro]

i love lavos

[solar reef]

abilities not using energy is an immediate turn off for me

[spice willow]

So sit

[novel bear]

I hate cooldowns

Lavos is good

Or decent at least

[solar reef]

hes super balanced

arguably the baseline of how warframes should be scaling

I just hate how he plays

[timber sparrow]

i do but i just got it

so erm

[novel bear]

Keep melee in for now then

[spice willow]

The only thing I want from Lavos is the status effect at will

Is gauss good?

[solar reef]

theres only three realistic cases to hit level cap and you have to intentionally do two of them to get there

[novel bear]

Yes

[timber sparrow]

oh theres a smite mod

i want to replace that

[novel bear]

Voltaic strike or gladiator might

[tawny gyro]

damage 🤑

[elfin sluice]

depends on if you're rocking influence, have no other elemental mods on and/or are going all-in on crit on the weapon

[novel bear]

It’s influence

[spice willow]

Im still stuck on what frame to main, is there like a quiz or anything

[novel bear]

Just play frames

[solar reef]

son im crine

[novel bear]

If one clicks with you then play it

[solar reef]

quiz 🥀

[elfin sluice]

how do you like to play the game?
do you prefer moving a lot? standing still? using powers, shooting, whacking things?
you have options.

[novel bear]

On buzzfeed

[solar reef]

my exact thought 😭

[timber sparrow]

ive honestly been moving between equinox, gyre and yareli for the weekend

[solar reef]

“what harry potter house are you!” ahh

[tawny gyro]

W picks

[timber sparrow]

and now khora is in that mix too

[spice willow]

Well maybe moving and shooting so gauss

[tawny gyro]

🤝

[solar reef]

khora mains when they get to press one button for 30 seconds

[timber sparrow]

😭

[novel bear]

Every pseudo exalted

[timber sparrow]

i swear i bought weeping wounds but i dont have it

[elfin sluice]

try your hand at an exodia contagion zaw, then - it's a rocket launcher with its fire rate tied to your movement, and accessible for low-mr players.
you'll need to buy the contagion itself since plague star is a rare event, but it's a good "ranged melee" tool that is easy to build up.

[timber sparrow]

ok time to buy influence

70 plat

[tawny gyro]

bros rich

i saw that 500 plat

[timber sparrow]

i got 75% plat discount 3 times

over a couple weeks

[near vortex]

Contagion Zaws are cracked

[timber sparrow]

so i spent a lot

[tawny gyro]

my f2p life cannot relate

[near vortex]

I have 5 different contagion Zaws

[solar reef]

ive bought like 3 prime access and thats it

i regret 2 of them

[timber sparrow]

i was f2p but like warframe is the only game i feel compelled to spend real money on and also i can make the plat in game but eh

[tawny gyro]

just means i dont get to have drip like that

[solar reef]

the only purchase ive ever felt good about on warframe was Seva prime access for the signa

[novel bear]

The only thing I really care about in prime access are the accessories

[solar reef]

huge PC issue

not an issue on console

[elfin sluice]

and the indirect platinum discount

[tawny gyro]

tennogen can be boiught with plat on console?

[novel bear]

Yes

[tawny gyro]

scam

[novel bear]

That’s why it’s not transferable with cross play

[opal leaf]

They lucky on console ;~;

[solar reef]

heard that

[solar reef]

the only fashion that cant be bought with plat is prime fashion and tennocon fashion

[timber sparrow]

its ok once i get standing, i too can sell melee influence for 70p

[elfin sluice]

have a zephyr that's a few mins away from finishing in the oven. what kinda builds work on them?

[solar reef]

all tennogen is available for plat

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-warlock-gotg3-guardians-of-the-galaxy-meme-flying-gif-16191848131003490451

[timber sparrow]

ok voltaic strike is 65p i dont wanna put down that plat

for influence its fine but no thanks

[tawny gyro]

fairs

[solar reef]

theres only one real way to play zephyr

[timber sparrow]

one time baro had it i shouldve bought it 😭

[tawny gyro]

divebomb

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/01-gif-23830650

those who dive

[spice willow]

Guys I have a plan
Get Lavos first(I'm already entrati rank 2) and if I don't like, get gauss, and then re-compare again

[solar reef]

just get lavos prime

hes dirt cheap to buy if you wanted to and his parts are in a ton of relics afaik

[tawny gyro]

both are pretty much just weapons platfroms

[spice willow]

Thata what I going after

[tawny gyro]

gotcha

[spice willow]

It's cuz I have 600 hrs in cod so I feel like it resonates with me

[tawny gyro]

lmaooo

whatever works

[solar reef]

if you just want gun running play cyte or harrow

[glass ember]

so im doing steel path corpus missions am i modding right
chance for each status effect is toxic 25.1% &magnetic 35.7%

[tawny gyro]

ive never used the torid but this seems right enough?

[spice willow]

Isn't cyte a sniper-focused frame

[solar reef]

drop stormbringer to where rime rounds is, and put a heat mod where stormbringer was

[solar reef]

yesn’t

his 4th ability is an exalted sniper

[violet silo]

he has a sniper, but no

[solar reef]

Hes actually better with other guns than that sniper though

[violet silo]

mhm

[spice willow]

How

[solar reef]

of course if you like that sniper then use it

[solar reef]

Because damage boosting ability plus (wall)PT makes guns better

if you really want to jump into it, Cyte-09 + Sobek is in the top 5 highest KPM frames in game

[novel bear]

The sniper is a good weapon
But acid shells is better

[near vortex]

maybe higher than top 5

Infinite punch through acid shells is not fair

[solar reef]

#1 is sevagoth bar none

The next 3 are saryn, cyte, and oraxia in that exact order iirc

all sobek abuse of course

[novel bear]

I love sevagoth sobek abuse

[solar reef]

Couldn’t tell you what follows

[novel bear]

Gauss is probably pretty high

[solar reef]

maybe

[novel bear]

Non-los high range nuke

[violet silo]

four different types of cyte:

1. neutralizer: big damage and ricochet
2. dual tox: really long range high damage gun, shreds things through the walls, so like neutralizer but fully auto
3. acid shells: probably his highest kpm version, nuke that can spawn camp enemies and destroy everything
4. explosives! since they have really low ammo capacities, resupply force reloads them and boosts their dmg. fastest style of gameplay for cyte.

[violet silo]

saryn beats cyte?

I doubt.

[solar reef]

Just more consistant with how acid shells nukes and a mobility tool i guess

[violet silo]

meh

cyte might have a slightly weaker acid shells output but the wallhacks more than make up for it

[solar reef]

without checking the list directly i’d guess Nova, Uriel, Voruna(melee), Gauss would be within the top 10 as well

could be totally wrong though

[violet silo]

from what I know, if you're going to sobek nuke for some meta thing, like in an arbi, cyte would be better

[solar reef]

Equinoz may be up there

[violet silo]

maybe

[solar reef]

Cyte is explicitly better in arbi

[violet silo]

wait uriel?

[solar reef]

uriel nukes scale comically well

[violet silo]

sure but for the charge, does the kpm get that high?

[solar reef]

Volr melee setup could make it as well I’m unsure

[solar reef]

From what I’m told? yeah

he also double dips with acid shells funny enough

not what people build him for though

[elfin sluice]

that determination is map-dependent

[violet silo]

saryn uses napalm

thats different

[solar reef]

for things like VC saryns just more consistant

almost any tile that isnt small compact rooms and hallways saryn would be the pick

[violet silo]

for the best arbitration maps, you run saryn with napalm ogris I believe

that's not sobek nuking

[solar reef]

i dont arbi

so leave me out of that conversation

[violet silo]

I don't either

this is what ive been told

[elfin sluice]

you can make a sobek nuke on saryn work in arbi, but yeah leaving napalm at the spawnpoints is better

[gray quarry]

You have volunteered to be in the conversation

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gillslawyer-dog-gif-gillslawyer-gif-2927883352786495489

[gray quarry]

You signed a contract

[elfin sluice]

malz rn

[quiet laurel]

i hear arbi

[quiet laurel]

cyte is used on like all arbi maps

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/document-signing-sign-shrek-shrek-meme-gif-14026138333329294270

[muted swallow]

sorry in advance for camera quality
got voruna prime finally today, thoughts on my first build for her?

[gray quarry]

Exactly

[gray quarry]

Not enough range, swap carnis carapace with overextended

[muted swallow]

k

[gray quarry]

Also take streamline off for prey of dynar

[mighty flare]

want more range and prey of dynar augment, examples: #1492606866482794601 message

[muted swallow]

alr there

[gray quarry]

Perfect, oh swap augmented for impetus

[muted swallow]

idk if i have impetus T^T

yeah i dont have impetus

[gray quarry]

Oof

[muted swallow]

where do i get it at then

[solar reef]

why ready steel if you still have her 4th

[muted swallow]

mod slots

[solar reef]

guh

[solar reef]

its a purchase from ele

in holvania

[muted swallow]

oh alr

[solar reef]

i would drop crepescular for it and run both augmented and impetus

get rid of precision intensify in favor of blind rage

then drop transient for an augur mod

[sharp portal]

Any build for Voidrig?

[solar reef]

you have no shield gate atm

[gray quarry]

Take whatever mods you have

[mighty flare]

used for orphix, most slots are flexible and can be changed for regular play: https://overframe.gg/build/918066/voidrig/voidrig-the-iron-vanguard-orphix-2026/

[sharp portal]

6 FORMA

[muted swallow]

ok i cant take off transient bc of polarity but otherwise i did said changes
60% efficiency is crazy

[mighty flare]

dont need all 6

[solar reef]

she doesnt need efficiency

her 3rd + equilibrium are more than enough

[gray quarry]

Equil and her 3 takes care of neg efficiency

[muted swallow]

wait mb i took off transient over blind rage lmao

[solar reef]

precision intensify is a bad pick for her because it ONLY benefits her 4th

[muted swallow]

one sec

[solar reef]

remember that in 4 spam builds, you’re not actually building her 4

you’re just building her 2

[muted swallow]

my build was for her 4th T^T
it was making it do 600k damage

[novel bear]

Just put augur mods on secondary

[solar reef]

the same goes for melee platform runas

[novel bear]

Not like you’re using it much with voruna

[solar reef]

even then you dont want precision

[sharp portal]

Any for Railjack? I found this one on Steam

[solar reef]

her 4th is the weakest ability in her kit

[muted swallow]

alr there

[mighty flare]

melee platform can use precision int depending on the setup

[solar reef]

roar can make use of it

[gray quarry]

Perfect

[solar reef]

but even then i’d rather just slot blind rage

[muted swallow]

now all i need is crystals
what ones do i grab and for what

[mighty flare]

roar & wa both want it

[gray quarry]

Crystals?

[mighty flare]

dont have to be conflicting slots

[muted swallow]

helminth crystals

[gray quarry]

Wut

[solar reef]

in my setup it kinda does

[muted swallow]

the archon shard things

[gray quarry]

Ah those

[novel bear]

Strength doesn’t do much for Voruna’s 2, does it?
Its biggest impact is crit damage from her 1 I thought

[solar reef]

when you’re building for range you’re pretty limited on strength slots

[mighty flare]

thats not pure wp, ur mixing with dynar nuking

[solar reef]

why would you need more strength for it

for just melee platforming?

[mighty flare]

?

confused on question format

[solar reef]

like if you’re doing pure melee platforming

[quiet laurel]

same reason you'd want to go full weapons platform on gauss

[solar reef]

i just dont see the point I guess?

Like this already damage caps with a full range set up

[gray quarry]

I think str only affects her 1 and 4, pretty sure her 3 is locked at was it 50% or 100% chance for orb on melee kill

[solar reef]

it just seems pointless

[novel bear]

It increases her 2’s damage
But her 2’s damage by itself isn’t much

[mighty flare]

combination of cd mods/shards/blind rage makes it better to use precision int for roar/wa than like umbral for pure wp

[solar reef]

like unless your melee is complete dookie balls unpolished then I think its overkill and you’ll never notice

[muted swallow]

anyway lemme try this in simulacrum one sec

[gray quarry]

Yeah, just seems not useful for her 2, don’t remember if it affects her 3 in any way

[opal leaf]

Any can join me in relay and give me resource boost? stuff?

[solar reef]

yeah but I mean like why would you ever need more strength

[quiet laurel]

beg in relay

[mighty flare]

my guy ur running 2 str arcanes

[solar reef]

impetus + augmented + blind range is more than enough for melee platforming reasona

[opal leaf]

I am now hahahah

[muted swallow]

ok so she is just a nuke frame with this got it

[solar reef]

yes and why would i need more strength after that

[opal leaf]

I need me a lot of salvaged and alloy stuff

[mighty flare]

not all wp builds use that

stuff like arcane fury is better

[solar reef]

but what i’m saying is like

[mighty flare]

can be*

[solar reef]

its pointless

because a full range setup is more than enough to damage cap with most melee weapons

Those two arcanes and one strength mod are enough

more than so

[mighty flare]

its more efficient to treat prey of dynar as bonus than main focus for those builds

[solar reef]

idk just seems weird to me

maybe theres some great disconnect but I just dont get it

[novel bear]

Why run umbral instead of normal then

[mighty flare]

you also sound like you dont care to understand

[solar reef]

well yeah because why would i want more melee damage when i already damage cap nuke

like its just not clicking

would i not just be more beneficial to milk range out of your build at that point

like ok you have 400 strength voruna with fury and i have 300 strength voruna without it

we both hit damage cap and tile clear

[opal leaf]

Bought acid shells for 10p :/

[solar reef]

I just have way more range and can also apply every status to every enemy in 45 meters

like im sure theres some super specific uber powerful reason

but whatever that reason is doesnt click

[gray quarry]

You didn’t

[opal leaf]

I did

I just said WTS acid shells, and one offered 10p

[mighty flare]

its just about efficiency, using flat bonuses from 1 to then slamfluence can be faster (kpm maxxing, scary scary ik) than looking for dynar target

[solar reef]

idk man i like never look for my dynar target i justs stumble across him and everything dies

[mighty flare]

yeah its just treated as bonus than the focus

[old marsh]

Half the time we r killing so fast target doesn’t even appear lol

[mighty flare]

i alr said that

[solar reef]

its not like im burning through time looking for him

[gleaming vapor]

turns out making youtube videos is a lotta work

wack

[mighty flare]

ive genuinely repeated my exact words now

[solar reef]

yeah and I do hear you

but I also have to repeat like

If I can slam spam my way to damage cap without the strength investment and Rcane fury

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-two-brick-wall-gif-10422880183880297804

[mighty flare]

i honestly dont think you do

[solar reef]

playing the exact same way as you, treating the dynar target as a bonus rather than the focus

[mighty flare]

but agree to disagree to agree

[solar reef]

then WHY is it more efficient to just pump out strength rather than range

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/gypceros-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-wilds-monster-gif-17497434197091522325

[vast ridge]

Was just testing a bunch of random stuff about koumeis passive after figuring out ocucors extra beams apply the extra statuses as well. So I figured if try out phage too since its a multi beam weapon instead of multishot.....it works....so very well💀 then I also wanted to figure out some melee synergies and dual ichor incarnon clouds also apply the extra statuses

[solar reef]

wait until this guys figures out the Gibblesnorp tech

[old marsh]

Coda Phage

[quiet laurel]

wait till you hear about the boysmell tech

[vast ridge]

Coda zymos propaganda better (also please de HEAVILY reduce the zymos particles oh my lord)

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-wwe-oh-yes-yeah-gif-7549364

Or Coda Embolist

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/boysmell-armpit-sweat-sweaty-gif-835272010066617807

[mighty flare]

fix the augment first please

[old marsh]

It’s part of its release in 2038

[vast ridge]

I am so unhappy to tell you koumeis passive does not work on zymos bugs🥀

[wide star]

Is this a good build chat? (Valkyr)

[vast ridge]

Ive kind of fallen in love with gambling (koumei) and have been testing her passive out on a ton of weapons here's what I've learned so far:
ALL beams from ocucor and phage will both apply the extra statuses for each beam individually
Dual ichor clouds apply the status
Enemies with a thalys crystal will not get any status when hitting a different enemy
Zymos bug thingies do not apply any extra status💔
Heavy attacks with quassus only apply one extra status no matter how many daggers hit
Coda pathocyst maggots do not apply it
Coda caustacyst heavy attack wave does not apply it (very sad since it opens up finishers for her decrees)
Zenistar disc DOES apply it so big ahh sword enjoyers rejoice
PLEASE let me know if there's anything else I should try especially with melees

[halcyon bluff]

Wait koumei has GAMBLING?

[vast ridge]

Koumei IS gambling

[halcyon bluff]

I have found a frame to pass the time

[vast ridge]

She's kinda boring on short missions but peak for endurace/cap

[velvet pulsar]

This feels like unique damage instance scenario

[vast ridge]

Yeah thats why I've been testing it with a bunch of random stuff like I think azima would go crazy with her but I gotta wait like 40 days to get it😭

[solar reef]

"we really wanted to showcase the culture that inspired her in her design and kit!"
looks inside
dice shooting

very japanese

[vast ridge]

Don't forget the envelopes🙂‍↕️

[solar reef]

literally the most japanese thing ever next to gambling on horse racing

[velvet pulsar]

Basically it was first noticed with Limbo when such kind of attacks bypassed his rift.

So anything like Zymos bees or Okina incarnon spectral daggers hit through Limbo's rift, then chances are that they're not affected by Koumei's passive.

If only there was a list of weapons that can hit through Limbo's rift...

[vast ridge]

Ah okay good to know, was very sad about zymos not working love that gun sm (de please for the love of sol reduce the particle effects of that thing)

I knew about it passing through the rift, very peak

[velvet pulsar]

Sampotes Shockwaves might be unpredictable

[stone canopy]

I just got vauban prime, what's the best way to build him?

[vast ridge]

Don't have that one yet unfortunately

[velvet pulsar]

Build for 3 with its augment for single cast nuke along with max range of 280%

[stone canopy]

Holy

Thought photon repeater had to be good, hell yeah, nuking death lasers

[velvet pulsar]

It scales with enemy lvl

[stone canopy]

Bruhh

[velvet pulsar]

So basically goes to lvl cap

[stone canopy]

That's wild

[velvet pulsar]

Also deals double damage to overguarded enemies

[stone canopy]

I'll have to use some red shards to make up for the loss of strength

[vast ridge]

Oh wait there's hope it said my passive was affecting my secondary but was actually on my melee

[sharp portal]

Any build for ArchMelee?
I know is pointless but hear me out, I get tired of just shooting.
I just wanna some variety yunno

[velvet pulsar]

Use Titania

[sharp portal]

I think I cant get her rn

[vast ridge]

Nvm hope died🥰

[velvet pulsar]

Guessed it

So it is unique damage instance scenario

Chances are that Exodia Contagion isn't affected by it either.

[eternal prism]

Just put all damage mod

[mighty flare]

https://overframe.gg/build/914552/centaur/centaur-best-of-the-worst-corroheat/

[sharp portal]

Fr?

[mighty flare]

no lol

[velvet pulsar]

An updated archmelee build...

[sharp portal]

😔

[eternal prism]

I don't know personally, even without a build I hold down one button and everything dies

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1265953786069909577/1485907242958983280/EEE4F152-50FB-4528-B78C-480E476FE516.gif

[sharp portal]

Is this really the best ArchMelee?

I got Prisma Veritux

[mighty flare]

best it'll get for a while, just read the description

[mighty flare]

"updated", dont even remember testing either strike or valkyr

[violet silo]

is it gauss

oh wait koumei

[violet silo]

no

[velvet pulsar]

Valkyr passive works so atleast that's an improvement.

[eternal prism]

Nidus

[sharp portal]

Dang

[slender vine]

Does Vauban 4 makes ennemies "Lifted" for the Saxum set?

[wide star]

O..what should I improve?

[winter meadow]

does wukongs iron staff want crit or statis

[mellow depot]

Hello, does anyone know what are the recommended incarnons this week? Okina prime aside

[novel bear]

Both

[quiet mesa]

Try the slam build, crit is a must

[fierce lark]

ive tested strike on archmel and it works

[unborn summit]

Anyone can help me figure out what to use for my Heat Sword

[dense abyss]

I build Viral+Heat for Dread or hit with Hunter Munitions?

[opal leaf]

Rate this abomination

[tawny gyro]

who even iss that

i think you need more velocity

[prisma forum]

Does shivering contagion works with Coolant leak?

[opal leaf]

Cyte

[opal leaf]

XDDD

[lyric sequoia]

Hello guys, may i ask some suggestion for protea prime build for sp?

[weary frigate]

Do you like temporal artillery or just the classic?

[frozen grail]

Question, its been a bit since ive played my goat lavos, what playstyle is the go to between health and shield tanking for end game content? I've seen mixed on both and am tryna decide before I dump and umbral lol, also any reccomened builds would be awesome if u have some to share!!

[dense abyss]

its more for player preference...

shield gate exist but overall you can tank well with arcane persistance

[proper meadow]

what should the last mods be? theres my current build and both my rivens

[dense abyss]

but i think you need Swift Bite AND triUmbra for this to work in high levels

[frozen grail]

hm, do u play lavos? if so is there a go to u tend to reccomend? im pretty split as i dont have a preference, i just was not sure if hp tank lavos could sustain with persistence since his only healing is his 1

[dense abyss]

because Lavos 1 still have some cooldown, so you can't really spam

[dense abyss]

I use him very often (because Railjack)

[mighty flare]

dont need either

[dense abyss]

thats why i said if more for player preference

both tank ways exists and works

you pick your poison and play

[frozen grail]

hm alright, ill look into it more then! do u have a reccomended build for hp tank lavos?

[dense abyss]

i use him with triUmbra for tank and weapon plataform with Cedo + Swift Bite and Valence Formation

[lyric sequoia]

To be honest i dont know, since its my first time creating her, so till it created im searching for recommendation build 😁

[mighty flare]

If you know little of protea, there's: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1474844387543482479 for you to get a look at

[dense abyss]

With arcane Persistance and Grace/Blessing, you tank very well with HP

[frozen grail]

ooh thats a good point, is grace worth over blessing?

[dense abyss]

well, depends how much HP you have

[frozen grail]

could run like combat discipline and grace

like tri umbra

[dense abyss]

with persistance ou don't have shields, so...

[frozen grail]

yeah i know

combat disp and arcane grace doesnt depend on anything shield related

[dense abyss]

i know, but i just think you don't "need" combat discipline if every damage you take is already in health, but you can try and see, still gives more chance to maintain grace actived

triUmbra gives you with 2240 HP

I use this but its just my preference AND for solo Railjack with buffing Cedo

[frozen grail]

ah alright ill give it a look and see, thank you!

[dense abyss]

but against higher levels i remove avenger and go with blessing because its more 1200HP

this gives you a good time for heal or kill

[weary frigate]

This is my build for her temporal artillery augment, you should also pair her with a heat epitaph and secondary fortifier. Because of how heat works, fortifier will be "inherited" to her turrets, giving you OG non-stop

[dense abyss]

This is total weapon plataform and i even place Roar in 4, caster build is way different gameplay and mods

[frozen grail]

do u tend to use viral is that y u chose over the 4 instead of 2? im a big gas enthusiast but i love the idea of roar on lavos so i may try seeing if i can function without his 2 as much as i love it

[warm obsidian]

Random question
If I mod a weapon for Blast is there a chance only heat applies?

[frozen grail]

no i dont believe so

look at the dmg types of the weapon, if heat is listed there than yes, if its not then no, you can also check the stat chance area to make sure

[warm obsidian]

Dex Pixia :v

[frozen grail]

check the stats

[warm obsidian]

Deciding on Arcanes for Titania
Hot Shot, Pistoleer, Velocity, Camisado, Impetus

Pixia only has the 3 physicals

[dense abyss]

My cedo that i use with him, so i just focus with tox to spread corrosive and then electric 3 to cooldown 1 and 2

[brisk niche]

is there any braton prime build thats good right now?

[restive lava]

Anyone know on how to do a Voruna build of sorts? Got Voruna Prime now and I don't, really know what to do.

[mighty pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/gifgod-remasteredgifs-the-weeknd-looking-up-blinding-lights-gif-17822278957080294567

[dusky bane]

one for generic gameplay and one for her 4
Melee Fangs of Raksh (muzzle flash/grouping): https://overframe.gg/build/395644/
Ulfrun's Descent Focused (non-helminth): https://overframe.gg/build/410147/

[sweet otter]

In a Titania guide video, I heard that if your ability strength is very high it takes over your base dmg calculation for the dex pixias and because of this base dmg mods like hornet strike won't work, can someone explain this to me?

[wide burrow]

👀
I second this question

[sweet otter]

wiki doesn't say anything about this from what I read too

[dusky bane]

it's not that they don't work
you're just stacking the same stat on itself, which isn't worth doing
however, having high enough strength for this is...
unrealistic

[sweet otter]

oh they stack additively with each other, so you get diminizing returns type of thing?

[dusky bane]

yes, but the calc is
160 * strength * (1 + 220%)
you need a ton of strength to make hornet strike not worth it

[sweet otter]

here 160 is base dex pixia dmg and 220% is hornet strike?

gotcha tysm for the info

[astral tinsel]

I don't see the diminishing returns there

[dusky bane]

wait

did I screw up, they're not multiplicative

[astral tinsel]

No you didn't

I just checked the wiki

afaik peacemaker is the only exalted where strength is additive with base damage mods

[sweet otter]

which article on wiki?

I can't find it

[astral tinsel]

Razorwing

Dex Pixia section

[dusky bane]

I'm not seeing the actual scaling tho

[sweet otter]

this is the closest thing I found there

[opal leaf]

How do you even do this hahahah

[lyric sequoia]

Thanks i will check it 🫡

[lyric sequoia]

I see, i will try using this build after my protea prime is done, thank you so much mate 🔥

[mighty pelican]

scourge (speargun) applies a bullet attractor that unlike void status aims directly for heads and its gravity isnt as strong so it arcs that funny, and im using a tenet detron for maximum burst projectile count

[opal leaf]

Damn hahahah I'm getting scourge Soon to further support my Dtoxo

[mighty pelican]

works well with secondary enervate due to the many hits

just make sure the secondary gets punchthrough

void status like from using xatas whisper works too but the bubbles are smaller and more likely to arc so close to one enemy that they wont hit others or not even move out of them enough to hit more times

still fun though for general use bc how projectiles accumulate then explode into all directions lol

works well for that purpose with boltor

[mighty pelican]

heaven is that you

[inner raptor]

Hope you have a fire extinguisher near your cpu

[magic crescent]

Build question, what mod should i drop to slot in energy transfer?

Tldr is this is a max range (50m) nuke in day while also serving as a good night form support build

[magic crescent]

Holy flashbang batman

[hard palm]

first time building a primer i got a weird question how do i reduce the damage of it, it legit kills enemies in sp before i can attack them with my melee lol am i doing something wrong?

[old marsh]

anyone got a Venato build with this augment?

[dusky bane]

don't think most people have that augment yet

[dusky bane]

ye, that seems about right lol

[old marsh]

thinking if i should swap it out with Voltaic/Shocking or something else

[dusky bane]

probably still influence build with that in the flex slot

[old marsh]

its a status monster so i wanna have as much status as possible

[hard palm]

what

[dusky bane]

the weapon does a ton of damage, so unless the enemies are tanky, it'll just kill

primed heated charge over scorch exacerbates that issue

[hard palm]

i see, ty

[marsh depot]

on oraxia's 4 could i build my wep for only cryo then get viral that way?

[dusky bane]

that's not how her 4 works

[marsh depot]

yeah i thought so alright ty

[dusky bane]

it'll just make the weapon do cold and then a second hit comes in with only tox

[magic crescent]

Any suggestions? I wanna slot in energy transfer somewhere

[dusky bane]

why tho, equinox builds don't really swap form

[old marsh]

drop fleeting and cont. use streamline and umbral

[magic crescent]

I mostly play day form but i do go play night form if needed, i built into playing both

[old marsh]

skip ET. just dont use 1 after u switch to day form

or just subsume over it and use white emissive

or was it black. cant recall

[charred gale]

putting on blast on a primer is def a weird choice

[old marsh]

auto-starts u in day form

[magic crescent]

What subsume would be best on her then if not ET

[charred gale]

terrify or pilliage

[old marsh]

anything u like. nourish, roar, terrify, pillage, etc

[charred gale]

aoe mass armor strip is best for her nuke

[old marsh]

eh. depends on the player. just give them choices

[magic crescent]

So that means i need to farm lephantis because i keep forgetting to farm hildryn from circuit when she arrives

[hard palm]

Like I said first time man idk

[old marsh]

then just use whatever u have. can even go for Thermal Sunder

[charred gale]

no its literally the best in slot, u can use other options but aoe armorstrip is gonna be the best

[charred gale]

fair enough lmao

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[magic crescent]

What would roar do on equinox day besides slash double dipping?

[versed harbor]

its not even rly worth it for that cuz the slash dots dont do good dmg no matter what

[old marsh]

Team support

[versed harbor]

ye strength buffs and roar buffs for da team

[dusky bane]

I don't see how a map-wide nuker cares about their team

[versed harbor]

just grasping at straws init

[magic crescent]

I do care for my team, it's why I'm asking for a potential energy transfer slot so I can SUPPORT as night form lel

Because i occasionally play night on lower level missions to help new tenno

[dusky bane]

I'll be honest, I'd just use a more supportive frame for that

[versed harbor]

ive ran roar night nox before its p decent but energy transfer is kinda awkward to build for me

u can do it but I personally dont run as much range on night compared to day cuz you end up slowing the entire map

so enemies are either way too slow or ur day nuke range is reduced depending on which you cater to