builds-discussion

[gray quarry]

I got tired of cascading a while ago

[cyan rune]

So I just got Ivara Prime, what's a good way to build her

[wary forge]

that like when i try to carry it just ends up being like to good

you know

[gleaming vapor]

I lowk just solocap atp

other people lowk suck to play with

[wary forge]

true...

[quiet laurel]

inventory > select ivara prime > move cursor to the bottom right of the screen > left mouse click

[gray quarry]

Selling her?

[wary forge]

theres like 6 or 7 ways to build ivara

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[gleaming vapor]

how could you possibly build ivara 7 different ways

[cyan rune]

but why would you want to sell her 💔 she seems like the equivalent of stealth archer from skyrim which seems fun

[severe bough]

Just use 6 builds and a 7 one

[wary forge]

^

[hazy hatch]

type shi

[gleaming vapor]

wsg pavo

[wary forge]

bro attack of the qts what the sigma

[quiet laurel]

all different buffing subsumes for magislam

[hazy hatch]

Oh this isn’t community discord

[gleaming vapor]

trust the fire blast ivara tech 🔥🔥

[hazy hatch]

what are you doing here @gleaming vapor

[gray quarry]

Nope

[hazy hatch]

🧝‍♀️

[gleaming vapor]

good question

unsure

[hazy hatch]

Type

I need a new goofy name for this server

Can’t even change it nvm

[gleaming vapor]

oh wack

[quiet laurel]

tech so good its used by no one 🔥

[gray quarry]

Heat blast meta

[wary forge]

ye im not GirlFart25 in here just zach

smh

[quiet laurel]

that name would probs get you into trouble here or smth

[wary forge]

well it hasnt gotten in toruble in the actual game

[quiet laurel]

oh yeah you cant change server nickname too

[wary forge]

[quiet laurel]

which is cringe

[wary forge]

warframe moderation team is listening

[quiet laurel]

the shi I've seen in the game not getting punished is insane

if you dont play pubs what you name your loadout doesnt even matter cause its only a problem if you get reported fr fr

[gray quarry]

Nah they’re too busy with gen

[quiet laurel]

and sometimes gameplay discussion

dont think I've ever seen a mod in here

[wary forge]

low true

[gray quarry]

Only rarely I’ve seen one pop in here

[quiet laurel]

just too goated of a channel fr fr

[gray quarry]

Usually when a scam bot or somethin of the like is in here

Man I miss mehi

[wary forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1478753914244305039/1490782148662394990/togif.gif

[gleaming vapor]

bro finna get smited 😭

[quiet laurel]

a sentence I thought I'd never ever hear

[gray quarry]

He was sorta entertaining

[gray quarry]

You whip that up in 5 seconds?

[quiet laurel]

he is a bot duh

[wary forge]

took me more like 6 or 7

[gray quarry]

True

[gray quarry]

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[wary forge]

🤖

[fierce lark]

oh i missed some sick content

[quiet laurel]

you missed everything

[fierce lark]

12x falcor is better than 5x

but probably not by enough to matter for anything

forced elec on every bounce = a lot of influence = what room

[wary forge]

its better for clearing

[fierce lark]

in theory it'll do more dmg per target when there's multiple targets

multiple influence procs per bounce per target hit, exponential scaling per target

but 5x is easier and faster

[wary forge]

true 5x just does way more with the direct hit tho

[quiet laurel]

5x chads vs 12x burgers

[wary forge]

^

[fierce lark]

ye but the multiple influence procs per bounce from the forced elec bounces will make it do more dmg to each target

but like that just shouldn't ever matter unless you're clearing lvlcap trash

[wary forge]

exactly

[quiet laurel]

if falcor had infinite combo duration or paused combo the 12x build would be more usable

but you wont be throwing that thing all the time

so the duration of reflex is more comfortable

[wary forge]

just use naramon u silly noob

[quiet laurel]

I'll personally make sure that when you want to fall asleep today you'll get a feeling of falling that'll make you stay awake for an extra hour

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-noted-glorp-noted-glorp-noting-this-down-alien-cat-gif-11958671377507601335

[fierce lark]

i can get behind naramon noob

kestrel uwu

[wary forge]

Kestrel is lowkey underrated

Like I as using it the other day it felt like fine

[quiet laurel]

lowk hidden gem

pls keep it hidden

(I have never used it)

[wary forge]

Ye imma gatekeep the tech dw

[hollow scarab]

hey if im tryna find a good precise tenet secondary for sp valis should i go with the spirex, plinx, or cycron?

[quiet laurel]

plonks

[timber sparrow]

did i cook here

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/plenk-cat-kot-plonk-gif-27710663

[hollow scarab]

is it actually good or are we memeing

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

[quiet laurel]

its good

[hollow scarab]

got it

[timber sparrow]

oh i didnt mean to put molt augmented

arcane rage

[hollow scarab]

cuz im tryna do a sustained or wall of damage primary like the flux or the arca and then a precise secondary to be the inverse of my POE setup of precise primary and sustained secondary

[quiet laurel]

arcane rage kinda ass too

but range and all looks good

[wary forge]

I don’t know a lot about the tenet secondaries I just know the plinx and cycron are good

[timber sparrow]

rage is the least useless arcane i have

i think

[quiet laurel]

are you planning to survive via night form shield gate

[spice willow]

whats a good melee? im looking for nikana or dual-swords style, high damage, and can be used in endgame. i'm mr6, finished duviri paradox

[hollow scarab]

also is the tenet flux any good at all on sp? it wouldnt be levelcap or endurance or anything. just sp bounties for solaris

[wary forge]

Well Xoris is very good for early game it’s a glaive tho

[timber sparrow]

i think mostly

[quiet laurel]

you probs dont have access to the end game melees but okina incarnon is a good dual sword

or dual dagger

idk what it is categorized as tbh

[spice willow]

Didn't really like it

[timber sparrow]

i like how no forma was required on equinox

until i max my mods

[spice willow]

Is syam or sun and moon good?

[wary forge]

Yes

[timber sparrow]

but still

[wary forge]

Well Syam is

[quiet laurel]

syam is really good sun and moon is MR fodder

[fierce lark]

syam is great, sun & moon is decent, all of the duviri melees are at least decent

[wary forge]

Really any melee gonna do good at mr6 tbf

[prime scarab]

My laser beam on vauban isn't working very well in steel path. Does anyone have a photon beam build for Vauban I can peek at?

[wary forge]

Just focus on getting good mod and stuff like that

And you’ll be good

[fierce lark]

anything that checks the boxes of "decent crit, decent status, decent damage, can equip elec influence" will perform well

[wary forge]

Yep

[dusky bane]

I'm REALLY enjoying dex nikana
it's currently available via alert

[wary forge]

But ye if u have/can get syam just use that and you will be good

[spice willow]

Yea ik I have it it's pretty fun

[fierce lark]

dex nikana and nikana prime are both solid

nami solo is one of the strongest melees in the game and is very swordsman-y

(with incarnon)

[timber sparrow]

should i stick with arcane expertise or slot something else

[brittle sleet]

Machete stance instead of sword stance though

[dusky bane]

11x heavy spam dex nikana with a secondary outburst is really fun

[fierce lark]

oh it's not dual swords, hm

[brittle sleet]

Which I think means it doesn't benefit from Excalibur passive?

[mighty flare]

nah expertise not for equinox me thinks

https://tenor.com/view/lurk-catlurk-cat-gif-16642871225923374426

[fresh solstice]

How do i build nova for nuke?

[hollow scarab]

id really like a tenet AR. the flux is as close as i got and idk if its even any good

oh yeah the titron exists

[mighty flare]

first ever nerfed tenet

[hollow scarab]

they nerfed the flux?

[mighty flare]

from beam to regular rifle

[hollow scarab]

is it just bad now? i havent gotten it yet

so far i have the plasmor, dipplos, tetra, cycron, spirex, and im about to get the glaxion

[mighty flare]

if you want upgraded flux, you use tenet glaxion lol

[velvet beacon]

you think using base zylok is worth using over prime if i have a decent riven for it?

[hollow scarab]

i just want an AR lol. to mirror the quartak on my POE setup

[timber sparrow]

so what else!!

[hollow scarab]

thats why im asking if its any good for sp so i can use it for the valis

[mighty flare]

how are you using equinox!! maim spamming? or form swapping in between

[brazen hinge]

is it a maim nuke or smth else?

[timber sparrow]

yes

[brazen hinge]

i can drop mine but it sort of requires magistar to feel good

could maybe use sampotes or titron

[timber sparrow]

whatever im using pistoleer and circumvent lol cuz im using the ocucor more than my primary

[wary forge]

Nah

[timber sparrow]

heres all my arcanes

[brazen hinge]

stacking maim without a slam weapon sounds so dread icl, not sure if it'd work well at higher levels but if your not going to cap it should be fine

@timber sparrow terrify over 1 for armour strip, 2 cast 3 pv shards but if you don't have a magi riv or magi at all use 2 cd and a diff slam weapon

you can probably run lower tier fury and augmented and get away with it

or precision velocity ocucor

[timber sparrow]

i dont melee at the moment

[brazen hinge]

i'd just use ocu and then swap 2x nira and arcanes then

or dtox if you have it

[timber sparrow]

i have it but meh ive been wanting to switch off it for so long

[brazen hinge]

then anything with decent AOE or clear would work tbh

i assume it's not a cap build so it should work fine, single target weapons would be the last thing to pick to stack maim nuke

[wraith sinew]

Volt shock trooper triggers melee influence

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-energy-galaxy-gif-17739196

and shock is my only subsumed ability

[gleaming vapor]

wsg soteria

[brazen hinge]

wsp shatter

[gleaming vapor]

nun much

[bold warren]

Help please

[wraith sinew]

Melee influence

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/718453554045780018/1117748796760260608/1948BC51-74D3-474F-B322-70E71767F8F5.gif

[bitter current]

Which one should i take?

[bold warren]

[bold estuary]

Influence and electricity instead of gas

Influence as an arcane is just giga busted

[wraith sinew]

Alternatively don’t use electricity and get Lavos with valence or shock trooper volt

[bold estuary]

That’s how I have my ichor setup it has gas and I just valence electricity onto it

[wraith sinew]

Lavos my beloved

[bold warren]

Maybe

[timber sparrow]

the left one actually i think you can stop going

[wraith sinew]

You can also build for crit, its got great base stats

[fierce lark]

left is pretty good

+tox is kinda bad though so i would keep rolling

unless you're wanting to make like a viral heat torid

that much +tox takes weighting away from blast

[umbral knoll]

Hello! I just have an idea of copying Dex Nikana MHBlacky build, but I would like to grind for this additional Cetus custom-built Nikana.. don't remember the name, it's hard 🙁 but I wonder if there's also that 8x multiplier on Syam or this Cetus Nikana?

https://youtu.be/BJdC9tkJbtI

[mighty pelican]

i believe the dex nikana is the only weapon to be handicapped in the possible combo cound, all melees have x12 as max combo at 220 hits

only exception to that rule is venka prime which can reach x13

[fierce lark]

ty for reminding me im still subbed to mhblacky

[mighty pelican]

just checked, yeah the dex nikana can only reach x11

[fierce lark]

need to fix that

[prime scarab]

Okay I finally finished building Grendel and oh man he is...also super fun

Are there any builds focused around his ball form?

[bold estuary]

hes not THAT bad😭

[vast canopy]

whats the best kuva primary

[buoyant patio]

Don't, MHBlacky is pure clickbait and is not a reputable builder.

[mighty pelican]

i remember the same video about dex nikana the last anniversary
and the one before that one

[bold estuary]

dont copy his builds he made such wonders as shieldgate wisp and weapons platform ember

[mighty pelican]

if theyre not in SP anything with a bit of thought put into it works tbh

[umbral knoll]

sorry, I don't understand.. Dex Nikana has this 11x (that's what I heard in the video), and has quicker combo multiplier. But other Nikana - do they have, like this 8x instead of 5x initial conbo?

[mighty pelican]

oh initial combo is a thing you can get from mods

[fierce lark]

not saying everything he builds is garbage but he is omega clickbaity lmao

[umbral knoll]

you don't like Blacky? Why exactly?

[fierce lark]

and most of his content is just pure engagement bait rather than helpful or informational

[buoyant patio]

Dex Nikana itself is just budget/holdover Nikana Prime. But it's entirely up to you if you want to invest in it instead of waiting to get Nikana Prime.

[bold estuary]

its not anything against him hes just very "I MADE A BROKEN X THING!!!!" and his builds are just really mid in reality

[umbral knoll]

What's the best nikana?!

[fierce lark]

they're either unique in a way that isn't actually good, or they're good because they're completely streamlined because this game is very streamlined

[buoyant patio]

IIRC, even Dragon Nikana is slightly better than Dex Nikana, but Dex Nikana is free and comes with a potato.

[fierce lark]

at least weapon builds are streamlined

[buoyant patio]

Depending on who you ask, Nikana Prime or Syam.

[bold estuary]

he either tells you about some common ball knowledge stuff or hands you an eldritch abomination of a warframe build (his ember)

[mighty pelican]

gimmick wise syam, has a funky beam on heavy attack, pure raw stats then nikana prime

[umbral knoll]

What about this Cetus one?

[fierce lark]

you can actually do weird things with warframes because different frames can act different with different builds and actually feel different

[umbral knoll]

this wave, right?

[quiet laurel]

bro he used condition overload on glaives for the longest time
someone had to tell him that it doesnt affect AoEs

[fierce lark]

different weird weapon builds don't really feel different though, they just kill things slower

[mighty pelican]

yup

[buoyant patio]

Idk I don't work with Zaws.

[bold estuary]

IT DOESNT???

truly tragic

I have that shit on both my glaives

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-looking-at-cat-confused-gif-25251297

[umbral knoll]

BUT, is it possible for it to have this 11x combo with Corrupt Charge + Galvanized Reflex + Ready Steel Aura?

just as Dex Nikana

[stray palm]

yo what else do i do with my tenet diplos

they feel underwhelming but i like how they shoot

[mighty pelican]

those should give 134 base combo count which amounts to 7x at all times

[gray quarry]

Meanwhile melee influence: watches as rooms die

[mighty pelican]

(a heavy attack will reduce it to 0 but it will go back to 134 in a split second)

[umbral knoll]

Ok, that's great.. I know blacky said that, but is it true that Dex Nikana has this quicker combo than other Melees?

[mighty pelican]

yea

all dex weapons have some sort of unique gimmick

[umbral knoll]

I need to check it on OTHER nikanas, like Syam..

[mighty pelican]

no this is just the dex that has that

[umbral knoll]

Okay, that's a little worse

[bold warren]

How do I build for Crit

[wraith sinew]

Crit chance and crit damage

[near vortex]

Do you ever get a good idea and then realize you missed the 60% Tenet Ferrox

[buoyant patio]

It's a trade-off, faster combo buildup in exchange for slightly less max potential multiplier.

[mighty pelican]

once you got focus schools unlocked you can get naramon which lets you lose only down to 5 combo count every time the combo timer runs out, so only -5 all 5 seconds on default

[wraith sinew]

You could also go melee animosity

[bold warren]

Can I see a build?

[umbral knoll]

Then I will test Syam

[wraith sinew]

I don’t have mine built, you could look up a tutorial

[bold warren]

Can someone please share?

[sudden whale]

Anyone gota felarx build pleas?

[bold warren]

There are no good YouTube Tutorials from what I can tell but maybe I’m missing something

[umbral knoll]

what about ninjase builds? are they checked and good?

[umbral knoll]

Brozime? I like him for Xoris build

[bold warren]

He doesn’t do Weapons

[umbral knoll]

YOU SURE?

https://overframe.gg/build/601689/syam/syam-x12-tennokai-heat-shockwaves/

[wraith sinew]

Is broken war a bit outdated?

Anything works with influence but that weapon specifically doesn’t seem anything special

[bold warren]

I’m blind. My bad.

[bold warren]

IDK, I’m just using it cause I heard it was good and I’d like it to at least take me through early Steel Path unless a better Melee for that exists

[sudden whale]

xoris

[bold warren]

NO

[wraith sinew]

Xoris

[bold warren]

I hate Glaives

[wraith sinew]

Have you tried one with influence

[sudden whale]

hate incarnon

[umbral knoll]

What Warframe as a Melee platform??

[sudden whale]

kullervo

[umbral knoll]

Pls, no kullervo, I don't like his teleport

[wraith sinew]

Valence Lavos then

[bold warren]

I need help getting that Weapon and I need help reaching 10 in SP Duviri cause PUBLIC LOBBIES DRIVE ME MAD

Also Burning Hate is like 200 Plat

[umbral knoll]

Lavos Prime, what is Valence?

[twilit crest]

It’s noob weapon

[wraith sinew]

Valence formation, an augment that lets you do any guaranteed status damage with all of your weapons

It’s great for everything

[brittle sleet]

ninjase is one of the most checked and good yes

[umbral knoll]

I'm going to get and test him then

[brittle sleet]

Usually best to use as a starting point since explanations for variant choices you can make are usually in the build description

[timber sparrow]

so why is melee influence used so much

[brittle sleet]

Also, optimal melee platform is usually Volt

[brittle sleet]

You take the sword and then you make it do an explosion of status effects on hit in a 20m radius every so often

[quiet laurel]

20 meter AoE that scales off of your status and the amount of enemies hit

[brittle sleet]

Compare that to other arcanes which are mostly stat boosts

Most melees don't need help killing single target as-is and now you can take those single target killers and make them do AoE damage

[bold warren]

So what should I look for / use as a Melee?

I’d like it to be able to run Gas if possible

[wraith sinew]

If you don’t like xoris

Zenistar works with gas from the little I’ve tried it

Makes the alt fire aoe bigger

[bold warren]

I'm bad at remembering to use Heavy Attacks is the issue

[twilit crest]

POV u like to be efficient

[bold warren]

I don't have enough Daily Tribute yet to obtain it also is the issue @wraith sinew

[wraith sinew]

Ah

Uhh

[wraith sinew]

You could do one of the duviri weapons, syam I’ve heard is good

[bold warren]

I am crafting a Syam atm ironically

[wraith sinew]

Have fun with that

[bold warren]

Again I'm just bad at remembering Heavy Attacks

[mighty pelican]

[wraith sinew]

Cough

@bold warren here you go

[mighty pelican]

admitably it uses a riven to squeeze out a specialized build that lets me prime cold for bigger crits with normal hits that combine to blast with heavy's built in heat

[bold warren]

HUH

[mighty pelican]

then the blast explosions keep chain reacting with each other while the beam travels and primes the rest with blast and so on

[sudden whale]

felarx build please

[bold warren]

Cna Gas be used over Blast @mighty pelican?

[mighty pelican]

probably but it would likely require several mod changes to the build i have

[bold warren]

Could you show me how to build a Gas Syam if plausible?

[mighty pelican]

not atm, id need time to log on aaand its about midnight for me rn 😅

i can do one tmr, should be possible

[bold warren]

All good! Thank you @mighty pelican (I have like 8 Forma so IDM if it needs a bit of Forma but please do not try to make it too expensive.)

I hope you don't mind.

[astral bane]

should i farm my rep or just buy dark propagation and shadow haze? im rank 3 out of 5

[hollow scarab]

whats the best pet to buff farming drops now? cuz ik they changed it so its not smeeta anymore

tryna farm up a ton of helminth materials and trying to do that with the least time possible

[warm salmon]

I got a question for a riven tryna make a build for tastu would this riven be good for steel path ?

[unborn bolt]

Hey, so im looking to do a mag prime support build and I want to mostly prioritize the 2nd and 3rd ability. Dose anyone have any suggestions?

[full seal]

i got a Corgitt Stosugil Kuva Kohm. what element should i put in it+

[mighty flare]

theres examples in: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1489188519929970838
kinda depends what ur team needs/wants

[unborn bolt]

Thank you.

[slender vine]

Whats the type of ennemies in Follie's mission?

[maiden cargo]

whats the laetum build for guilty?

[bold warren]

Is Gas Syam viable?

[dusky bane]

why gas

[bold warren]

Cause I want to.

I already have Blast on my Nataruk, why would I want to double dip on Elements @dusky bane

[dusky bane]

no real benefit in diversifying your weapons inside a loadout

and syam doesn't usually build blast? does it?

oh, I guess it does
could probably copy the blast elec build and swap to gas elec
would only be slightly worse

[bold warren]

So if I wanted to change my Nataruk to Gas let’s say, is that a bad idea?

[dusky bane]

again

why gas

[bold warren]

Having the same Elements in one loadout is bad no?

[orchid pond]

this is what i like to call "having fun in a video game"

[thorn spindle]

What can I do to improve?

[bold warren]

So I don’t know what to do @dusky bane

[dusky bane]

no?

[bold warren]

Huh

[dusky bane]

that'd make nourish a bad ability

and it's one of the most popular subsumes in the entire game

[bold warren]

I suppose

[graceful plank]

What shards should I use for valkyr?

[bold warren]

Thanks for explaining. So Blast Syam and Nataruk is fine?

[dusky bane]

I think the recommended element for nataruk is elec
and syam rocks blast elec

and I believe both assume your secondary or companion primes with viral

[bold warren]

It’s Blast Elec Nataruk

That ok?

[lost flume]

Hey anyone got a good valkyr build with transient fortitude? Bc I tried putting narrow minded on with it and they just contradict each other

[dusky bane]

Likely wasteful to slot 3 elemental mods

[bold warren]

So what do I do instead? I’m so confused.

[dusky bane]

Try this

[dusky bane]

https://overframe.gg/build/279221/

If no longbow, swap for deadhead/merciless

[lost flume]

Overframe?

[dusky bane]

What about it

[lost flume]

How trusted is it?

[dusky bane]

The guy who made them is one of the better builders

[bold warren]

I only have 3 Forma in it, is there cheaper build?

[charred gale]

U should more so be concerned with who made it not the website

[lost flume]

Fair

[dusky bane]

Use regular serration, swap bane for whatever you'd like and use a cheaper fire rate mod (highest fire rate you can comfortably hit perfect shots with)
Should save a forma

[charred gale]

There is a ton of trahs builds on it but its like this everywhere anyways

[bold warren]

Can I share my current setup?

[dusky bane]

Sure

[fresh solstice]

What is a good build for nova not sure how to build her

[bold warren]

@dusky bane

[dusky bane]

Imo swap shred for a higher fire rate mod
Add serration, that's non-negotiable
Swap gas to elec or heat imo

[low flax]

which is recommended

[dusky bane]

Azima is horrific
The 2 melees are better, but nothing spectacular

[low flax]

coolz

mr fodder then

[dusky bane]

Zenistar's gimmick is more useful than sigma's
Sigma is a better generic melee

[bold warren]

Higher Fire Rate such as?

[dusky bane]

Vigilante fervor 45%
Generic fire rate mod (forgot name) 60%
Vile acceleration 90%

[low flax]

the sigma looks cooler so ill take it

[dusky bane]

Fair lol

[bold warren]

How am I meant to fit Amalgam Serration on here?

[opal leaf]

When he said higher fire rate mod

Use Primed Shred or Vile Acceleration

Trust me that - 15% damage will do almost nothing

[dusky bane]

In the slot where shred is
You can use normal serration

[opal leaf]

Speed Trigger?

[dusky bane]

Right, thank you

[opal leaf]

I would recommend Vile Acceleration for that comfy

Bc that - 15% damage will do nothing tbh

[dusky bane]

Like I said already
Use the highest fire rate that you can comfortably hit perfect shots with

For me that's around 60% so I use primed shred (55%)

[opal leaf]

True I did not see the past messages

[bold warren]

I don’t have Primed Shred yet which is why I’m using Normal

[dusky bane]

^

[dusky bane]

Normal shred is not good

Offers too little tbh

[opal leaf]

It's OK, use an another and Cubra already gave you recommendations

[bold warren]

🤷 Better than nothing

[opal leaf]

You don't have at least Speed Trigger?

[dusky bane]

Low bar

[opal leaf]

That's like one of the most common fire rate mod

Pt is useless against Nataruk bc he has infinite body punch through

[opal leaf]

Where do u get the Vigilante Mods again?

[dusky bane]

Not necessarily, since it allows shooting through thinner walls

[bold warren]

Perfect

[opal leaf]

Much better

Nice one

[rigid lark]

if yall were to rank the 2 handed nikanas which would be the best and worst?

[opal leaf]

I don't do melee that often aside my Dual Ichor and Hate hahaha

That's like the 2 meta weapons I have hahaha

[bold warren]

Yeah I see it now

What do I dissolve for Vosfor

[dusky bane]

Worst is probably rev's one
Can't recall the name

[worthy siren]

What subsume should I get for a 342% strength tank build Garuda?

[low flax]

would an acuity build work for the soma? its getting to like 90% crit chance with critical delay and I reaaaaaally wanna juice the 7.9x multiplier it has

[dusky bane]

Best? Livia? Or pennant
Idk

[opal leaf]

Loid in sanctum

[versed harbor]

best livia, worst uhhhh maybe tatsu

[opal leaf]

No

[prime scarab]

Okay, so I'm really really enjoying Grendel Prime now too.

I got him set up with Arcane Persistence and Blessing, with max HP so he sits around 4-5k easy, and nourish keeps him topped up.

Are there any gameplay tips, fun subsumes, or weapons that integrate with him well?

I need to finally sit down and build a good primary to use on multiple frames so if there is a common one that'll really suit him I'll happily start there.

[opal leaf]

Soma really wants Multishot

Especially if you have the Hata Satya

[low flax]

darn

oh I guess the satya actually solves all my problems ill just go get that lmao

[opal leaf]

Yee

Keep note, Soma Prime Incarnon is one of the weakest (not THE weakest) Incarnon out there

[bold warren]

IK

[worthy siren]

I got a question Arcane Aegis or Grace for my Garuda? I would assume Arcane Grace right?

[low flax]

still an incarnon tho so like

yknow

what IS the weakest incarnon anyhow?

[opal leaf]

I know

[opal leaf]

Not sure, Gorgon is up there

[worthy siren]

One last thing, shield or hp?

[opal leaf]

None

She doesn't need a blue shard

She needs casting speed

A yellow shard bc she casts quite slow

[worthy siren]

You are assuming I am casting anything.

[opal leaf]

You do you, but Garuda needs that casting speed

She doesn't need a blue shard

[worthy siren]

Lets ignore casting speed, out of these 2 options what do you think?

[opal leaf]

None

Shit

Fine

[bold warren]

IDK about that, still kind of wish it was Gas over Blast ;/

[opal leaf]

I would do Energy Max bc that's what she needs, more energy

[opal leaf]

Same purpose of different element

I would go pure electric tbh

[worthy siren]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[opal leaf]

If u really want blue, go energy max

But she doesn't need one

[bold warren]

Not until High Voltage OR Primed Stormbringer is here

[worthy siren]

I'll go health then.

[opal leaf]

Mag I just used Normal storm bringer

[violet silo]

and yet it’s still good

[opal leaf]

True, that I can't deny

Sombra Prime

[violet silo]

incarnons aren’t really weak ever

[opal leaf]

Maybe weak is not the word

[bold warren]

No

[opal leaf]

Maybe... Underperformed by others

[opal leaf]

Psh shit aight

No one is forcing you, I'm just saying what I use

That added Aoe tick is the reason I use Nataruk

Electric Slash are the ones I use the mose

[low flax]

outclassed, I suppose

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's a better word

[prime scarab]

Is there a sprint speed weapon like praedos buffs parkour? Trying to see if there is a melee I can throw on Grendel to help him zoom.

[opal leaf]

Any Incarnon weapon

Sorry

[prime scarab]

Really? Thats always on like the praedos buff, even when not actively selected?

[opal leaf]

Melee Incarnon

I mean there is Okina Prime Incarnon

[prime scarab]

Interesting, thanks!

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Incarnon

The wiki has it broken down by always active too!

Nice

[novel bear]

Praedos buffs sprint speed as well as parkour
And okina buffs movement, not sprint

[prime scarab]

True! I think they both work in ball form for Grendel tho

I think I still run Prados though. Get the sprint on evo 2 and parkour on evo 4.

[opal leaf]

Parkour?

I mean Okina

[placid vale]

Can someone tell me how to improve this weapon? Something reasonable, I'm not that far into the game

[charred gale]

Get rid of radition and put on multishot

[opal leaf]

Use pure electric as a general form of damage for Nataruk

Remove Radiation and use Multi

[charred gale]

And get the 60% status mods for elements

Either that or use corrosive

[opal leaf]

Corrosive works on bows? I mean especially Nataruk

[charred gale]

Well u just want it for the bonus dmg on grineer cause they’re the most tanky

[opal leaf]

Huh... That make sense tbh but I never had problems with Grineers tbh

[charred gale]

I mean they’re still pretty squishy till u get to lv a couple thousand

[opal leaf]

Oof yeah that's true

[bold estuary]

I think it’s the fist weapon has an amalgam mod for this?

[prime scarab]

Oh yeah those too, good lookin out

[bold estuary]

Should also check if his ball speed scales on sprint speed velocity or not at all

[prime scarab]

It scales on sprint and movement

But not parkour

But I still run mobilize because bullet jumps are useless without it

[bold estuary]

It’s a shame they killed volt speeding up teammates

[prime scarab]

I'm mixed on it as a titania main

[bold estuary]

Could get a buddy for this

[daring crystal]

what should i get on a verglas riven ? and how much is it if i want to sell it unrolled ?

[bold estuary]

As someone who disliked it hard stop it’s stupid because you could just backflip to kill it

[prime scarab]

This is the logic everyone loves to use but it doesn't actually hold up in practice because Volts spam that shit like its their job

So I'm having to backflip every 10 seconds and it completely kills gameplay

[bold estuary]

I mostly do endless stuff so if they’re spamming I just run away and farm another area of the map

[prime scarab]

Yeah the problem is that from a design perspective if people are actively avoiding a buff from another player its...a bad buff

[bold estuary]

Mmm a toggle would be best I feel

[prime scarab]

Probably

[bold estuary]

Make it a setting “volt speed only applies up to 150% strength when casted by another player”

[prime scarab]

Dev time spent on that is frankly not really time I care about tbh. It would be nice but it is fine the way it is for me.

Plus I like it when Volt mains suffer

[bold estuary]

Valid I like it when the lesser electric frame suffers as well (I like gyre)

[prime scarab]

I keep needing to craft her but every time I get her neuroptics some baby tenno is in chat trying desperately to trade random stuff to get it so I cave and give it to them

I have a billion other frames to build so it just feels the right thing in the moment each time lmao

[bold estuary]

That’s valid

[violet silo]

wdym

[prime scarab]

I do need to do it soon though. I'm really starting to find a lot of enjoyment in the lesser used frames. My early acquisitions were stuff like Titania and Nokko and I see a ton of those everywhere but lately I'm playing Vauban and Grendel and they're both REALLY fun and interesting.

[prime scarab]

They capped party buff from volt at 150%

[toxic latch]

Is atlas able to handle high level material? If so is there a build that you can recommend for him?

[dapper lodge]

any1 know why theres no arcane slot on my balefire? i have secondary enervate

[violet silo]

you don’t have an adapter

and you’ve never gotten an adapter

that’s my assumption

[dapper lodge]

where can i get those?

[violet silo]

u got steel path?

[dapper lodge]

nope

[violet silo]

looks like acrithis and calendar don’t have it this week

check descendia?

[dapper lodge]

i dont have that

i havent started the new war yet

[oblique jasper]

Is it worth running umbral viatality in a build if you have nothing else for the slot simply to upgrade umbral intendify or should i just swap something else in thats not needed for the build but can be useful?

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-unamused-sad-somacguffin-somac-gif-15629876605381114210

[violet silo]

just slot a different strength mod

there’s like five of them

[dapper lodge]

im just taking it slow man

[violet silo]

I don’t think you have a single way to get it tbh

might want to take it faster

[dapper lodge]

lmao k i dont have to worry about it then, thx

[bold estuary]

How the hell did you get enervate 😭

[dapper lodge]

bought it with plat, some guy was selling it for 40p, R5

[placid vale]

Out of curiosity, what's the best nataruk build?

[violet silo]

HOW MUCH

[bold estuary]

Lowkey got scammed I can’t even lie to you my brother that arcane is like a 20 minute to max rank farm

[dapper lodge]

ehh i dont mind

i just bought it out of convinience

[bold estuary]

Just get a secondary arcane adapter and it should let you use it I think the nearest source is…requiem relics?

It has an adapter I dunno which

Ah exilus adapter

You have duvuri right?

Wiki says the pathos store guy sells them

[daring summit]

anyone wanna tell me why this sobek does not melt things with saryn the way i hear its supposed to?

[dapper lodge]

ye i do, might check it out later then, thx

[sudden whale]

FROSTBITE???? when i use sobek i use merciless or primary blight and iim melting with that

[violet silo]

so what you want to do iss take off savvy, frigid blast, frostbite, and chilling grasp

[bold estuary]

Also wanna change the progen to…I think the sobek uses magnetic nowadays?

[sudden whale]

toxin i shwat i use

[bold estuary]

That or toxin

Anything but cold tbh

[violet silo]

then you mod for tox and status dmg (shotgun elementalist or just more tox)

nope cold is actually the best

[daring summit]

going ot go purchase a vice

[bold estuary]

Oh is it actually?

Mine uses toxin what’s better about cold?

[bold estuary]

Oh boy that’s a lot of words

[violet silo]

jump to sobek's blurb

cold gives saryn viral, since she needs to mod for tox

modded toxin boosts toxic lash dot

[bold estuary]

Why’s cyte use cold as well?

[violet silo]

magnetic

[bold estuary]

Shouldn’t he use shock trooper electric?

[violet silo]

modded elec too

[bold estuary]

Oh I suppose

[violet silo]

elec for oraxia cuz she runs nourish

can't do roar

[daring summit]

does toxic lash not combine ?

[violet silo]

wdym combine

[daring summit]

mod cold. add toxic lash, get viral

[violet silo]

toxic lash is an extra hit, it ignores any status on the weapon besides toxin, which boosts your toxic lash dot

[bold estuary]

Is this 1 subsumed oraxia or 3 subsumed oraxia I use base kit spider with persistence

[violet silo]

3

[bold estuary]

Seems a little counterintuitive wouldn’t viral scuttles be better?

[violet silo]

no need for spider in platform build/nuke

[bold estuary]

Oh true

[violet silo]

1 gives energy eco

[bold estuary]

Also that infographic is missing the grattler

[violet silo]

no

[bold estuary]

Nvm yeah I’m blind

I was looking for it in launchers and others since its radials mb

[daring summit]

assuming im still doing this wrong but looking for updated feedback

[violet silo]

this is good

if it still struggles, then it might be on your saryn

[barren birch]

What stance should I use for my Syam?

[daring summit]

3 tau str, 2 +corr stacks for shards

[violet silo]

um.

https://overframe.gg/build/226696/saryn-prime/lashing-venom-weapon-platform-saryn-easy-lazy-gate-strongest-weapon-buff/

what am I looking at

[bold estuary]

That is some arcane choices of all time

[plush aurora]

Check the one with highter Heavy Attack damage at the combo menu.

[violet silo]

didn't notice stretch and coaction drift?

[daring summit]

not a fan of shield gating

[bold estuary]

Persistence grace sayrn caught me off guard

[violet silo]

swap the shield gating mods then

[barren birch]

Can’t check the one I don’t have is why I asked

This is basically “do I farm decisive”

[bold estuary]

IMO persistence is bad if you don’t have both 1400 armor and 1500+ hp because heat will knock away the benefit of persistence if you have below 1400 and if three enemies hit you all at once for max damage it’s an instant death at 1500 hp

[daring summit]

range for the gloom and spreading spores

[bold estuary]

Why are you sporeing it as gun sayrn

Sobek should be doing all the work

[daring summit]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smart-im-not-a-smart-man

[violet silo]

cata, vigor, deflection, and aegis for Uvitality, Ufiber, and like... adrenaline or smth.

idk why ur using default intensify

[violet silo]

just use venom dose

[daring summit]

this is getting bonkers good, thanks all

[gray quarry]

Persistence saryn??

[daring summit]

i think im mixing two saryns, persistence (spores and gloom and range = cant kill this) and gun platform / sobek

[barren birch]

Aight im just gonna ask straight out instead, how should i build my Syam for on Nezha

[lament pagoda]

which one should i keep?

[barren birch]

Tough choice

[gray quarry]

Right but keep rolling I think, tho I’m unsure about slamistar rivens

[violet silo]

cc cd as range

[gray quarry]

So right would be better, since higher cc

[violet silo]

mhm

[weary frigate]

The left one is kinda better damage wise.

[lament pagoda]

i got this one now :p

[barren birch]

Yea that one is better lol

[violet silo]

thats a great one

[weary frigate]

Hey, nice number too

[lament pagoda]

yeah lmao

[gray quarry]

Honestly nearly perfect, I’d stop rolling

Perfect neg too

[lament pagoda]

yah i did

i am very happy with my rolls for today ^_^

[gray quarry]

Now imma rob you

[violet silo]

idk abt perfect

[gray quarry]

Alr

[wary forge]

w riv

i mean ye if u want to hyper critical is not a bis negative

[spice ravine]

im running melle crescendo in mesa, is there a consistent way to get finisher kills

[wary forge]

bronco with the augment

[barren birch]

slap the goofy out them, the augment

[velvet pulsar]

Zakti can open enemies to finishers as well.

[fierce lark]

otherwise vazarin/naramon 2 or heavy attack with a dagger

[spice ravine]

oh wait im using the ceramic dagger

[velvet pulsar]

Is there anything particular u want to use in primary weapon slot?

Coz I suggest Rauta with Furax Wraith instead.

[spice ravine]

im using torid to stack the ceramic dagger's incarnon upgrade faster

the one that gives initial combo

[barren birch]

aight asking one last time then I'ma just go to bed. does anyone have a build for Syam for Nezha. I'm thinking corrupted charge for spamming heavy but other than that no clue where to go, I know it has weird stuff with CO

[spice ravine]

nvm the ceramic dagger heavy attack damage one shots when the initial combo is high

guess ill use the bronco

[wary forge]

dont build it like that then

like just dont go as much base dmg and just go finisher dmg

[novel bear]

Should be running covert lethality for ic anyways

[wary forge]

ye legit can just kill with a finisher with like 4 mods

[swift dove]

so i kinda want to subsume xata's whisper on hildryn but ive no idea how xata's work such as void damage, bubble hit, projetile goes to bubble, it somehow increases dmg furtuer if im using bane mods i hear
basically i did do some research and read bunch of stuff but idk how will it work on hildryn (i only hear its good) but how do i mod for it? how do i make the most out of it? i want to know if its a suitable subsume with my hildryn build (im using the aegils bale nuke build can drop screenshot if anyone wants to see), pls help me with it

[mighty flare]

xata very good, lets balefire get weakpoint bonuses through the xata hit
hildryn help: #1481553563485212692 message

[wary forge]

u really shouldnt need the dmg from xatas imo for like 95% of the game if ur balefire is built well

like its a good subsume but like go infested mobility for the qol

[mighty flare]

infested mobility is half a subsume on hildryn
use the other mobility subsumes

[undone dust]

molt!! molt!! molt!!!!!

[slim sedge]

if i put pillage on chroma's one, do I lose the options for his two?

[wary forge]

you cant change the element yes

dont go pillage tho

[slim sedge]

even with the emmisive? bummer

[wary forge]

ur 2 is gonna be whatever ur emmisive is

but u cant change it during the mission if u subsume the 1

[slim sedge]

what's worth subsuming on him?

[wary forge]

well it depends on how u want to use him u dont need surviviabiltiy if u want to lazy gate/use persistence

[fierce carbon]

does anyone have a heavy hate build for me im using light rn and maybe i find heavy more fun

[wary forge]

for weapons platform best in slot in nourish

[wary forge]

for meele buils wrathful/breach surge/ nourish

[slim sedge]

on the 4 im assuming?

i want to do weapon

[wary forge]

ye i mean u ca nsubsume the one but chaning the 2 can be nice

either one or 4 the 4 is nice for the extra mobility

are u high or low invest on chroma

[slim sedge]

low investment

[fierce lark]

im a moltdryn enthusiast

anything to infest the rest of the game with saryn's nonsense

[wary forge]

i like wa

but ye molt is good

lazy gate build very comfy no corrupted mods or anything like that

this is like a 1 to 2 forma build and ye u want to run nourish

[swift dove]

ig ill go for molt then?

[swift dove]

i have yet to try my current build in higher levels but around 200 its doing great

[mighty flare]

yea molt good, fine if ur okay with spamming it or firewalker if not

some ppl like wa on her to just teleport too

(not a fan)

[wary forge]

burger

[mighty flare]

larper

[swift dove]

how long does molt last on hildryn tho? low duration so ig not too long

[wary forge]

larp larp larp sahur

[mighty flare]

5s base duration, scales with duration, if neg then try firewalker or wa

[wary forge]

i mean i can atleast larp about chroma and be a burg

[swift dove]

my hildryn currently sits on 75% duration

ill look into both and see which is more qol then

i read the guide on hildryn that u sent, i lowkey wanna switch out expertise for aegis lol coz facing infested with hildryn is not so fun

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-thats-bait-photoshop-gif-26646069

[mighty flare]

mol = 3.75s spam, firewalker = 22.5s recast
wa = 1s spam (1s cd)

[wary forge]

oh its real

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[mighty flare]

mhm, expertise requires a bit to be worth, aegis very comfy

[swift dove]

wow im def not spamming every 4s, firewalker it is

[fierce lark]

i almost think hollow point would be better than convulsion

like hp + magnetic might over cracker convulsion

[wary forge]

ye or magmight

[placid vale]

Is this build good? What can i improve/change

[ruby crypt]

that feeling when you have to add a froma to ur build cuz you lack 1 mod capacity

[fierce lark]

would highly suggest dropping one of the fire rate mods

[placid vale]

Which one, speed trigger or shred?

[fierce lark]

that one is up to you

fire rate on nataruk is very personal pref

but too much of it makes perfect shots extremely difficult

[placid vale]

I'll take off shred

[swift dove]

the damage loss tho?

[fierce lark]

i run primed shred + critical delay which is +70%, but i also always have reinforced bond if im playing a gun so that's 130% which is fairly difficult to manage

i can deal with it but it definitely takes practice

somewhere around 100% is probably my comfy spot (including the 2x part)

what you put in the empty slot doesn't hugely matter, high voltage would be ideal but elementalist, galvanized scope, bladed rounds, hammer shot, something that adds something would be good

[fierce lark]

you get back most of it replacing target cracker with magnetic might

you lose 30% elemental damage for 40% crit damage, the 15% from hp is negligible given how much base dmg you get from hornet/magnum

[wary forge]

ur always going to cirting wit henervate u want to go cd

really just need cracker and mag might u could got a 3rd one

[mighty pelican]

keep in mind the numbers dont count in crits or conditionals as well as multishot potentially applying multiple DoTs

[swift dove]

woah

[fierce lark]

not that balefire will ever dot anything but yeah

[swift dove]

ive swapped in both

[astral tinsel]

why not replace hollow point with mag might

[frozen grail]

Im trying to broaden my arsenal and enjoy weapon types i dont use and I really have been looking to try out snipers, are they able to hold a candle to other weapons? My main worry is they'll be far too slow to be worth the trouble
Anyone got any go to snipers they'd reccomend? I've heard good things about vorunas sniper, vadarya, and the coda sporthrix(+augment)
Any tips for getting into snipers are welcomed aswell!

[fierce lark]

oh actually yeah i didn't realize how much leftover capacity was still there

you could just put mag might in the slot where convulsion is lol

[old marsh]

Do primary and secondaries get any benefit from extra mod capacity?

I know WF and Melees do

[swift dove]

here... both

[swift dove]

honestly its because im broke and have not yet upgraded primed fulmination lol but if its worth it i am willing to change the polarity or even put one more forma entierly

[mighty flare]

use target cracker + mag might

[fierce lark]

what do melees get?

[old marsh]

Finisher dmg

[fierce lark]

lmao

[swift dove]

here's my pet build, can u guys check and suggest if i should make any changes pls?

[old marsh]

yup. wish it was more like CCC or something meaningful

[old marsh]

pet that dawg

[mighty flare]

(in my experience) pets dont get to attack well enough to upkeep seismic bond, mystic bond is nice tho
momentous bond & aerial bond are good options
also you need more crit chance to trigger tenacious bond

[swift dove]

claw empty mod slot is waiting for bite mod
and aerial mod will go in that raksa empty slot (ill farm it tdy i promise lol)

[swift dove]

the idea is to use hunter synergy with high crit chance primary

tenacious will give final +1.2x crit dmg multiplier if companion's crit chance is over 50%
im already at 48% because of hunter synergy, just need to push that 2% more (which wont be a problem for me at all)

also now that im checking it all out, u may be right about seismic bond.. companion does not get to attack all that much so perhaps ill switch out seismic for momentus

[slim sedge]

jesus... anyway does vex armor have a cap

[wary forge]

nah

it has dr with other addative dmg mods like seration so dont use seration on ur weapon

[slim sedge]

im at 255 strength minus augmented, is it worth putting red strength on

[wary forge]

thats plenty

[surreal willow]

anyone has any recommendations for Uriel Steel Path Build (heavy ability focus) a youtube video or something would be nice too. thanks!

[astral tinsel]

I like running a crapton of range on him

[undone dust]

run negative range and strength trust

[warm obsidian]

Worth replacing Serration and Barrel Diffusion for their Amalgam counterparts?

[opal leaf]

Range (Overextended and Stretch) to swallow the area as far and large as possible

Duration (Augur Message and Continuity) so that it'll linger longer

Strength (Blind Rage and Intensify) as not that much needed because he procs so much heat if you have his 1 always on

Efficiency, leave that bc he make enemies explode on health and energy orbs, just use flow and equilibrium and you're good

Flex (Archon Vitality) to support his heat

[opal leaf]

Don't trust the yt as they suck

[dusky bane]

amalgam diffusion is mostly used on primers, ideally you'd get galvanized instead

[surreal willow]

thank you!

[astral tinsel]

Amalgam Serration can be used as a drop-in replacement, yes

although most builds these days use Galvanized Aptitude or arcanes for base damage

[astral tinsel]

To add to the good advice, Uriel is one of the few frames who can actually make decent use of Archon Intensify

[brisk fiber]

was secondary envenerate on the kompressa changed recently? i feel like i'm only doing yellow crits now but i used to get consistent orange crits with some reds, didn't even change the builds too

[astral tinsel]

blast build?

[brisk fiber]

yeah, it has a 41% crit chance but i'm using it with yareli prime

[astral tinsel]

def weird, I'd expect more people to complain if the blast enervate interaction got stealth patched

maybe you're just killing enemies too fast to get the blast fizzles?

[cedar flint]

how do i deal more damage?

[brisk fiber]

maybe? i first noticed it while doing the circulus node, which usually takes a while for me to kill enemies, so i'm not sure

[cedar flint]

(i just slotted in random arcanes cause i dont have good ones or commonly used ones)

[inner raptor]

Chat should i say it?

[dusky bane]

ngl the answer's probably roar

[wary forge]

why r u on rolling guard

when u have tidal impunity

[cedar flint]

i didnt know it existec

[opal leaf]

Hydroid's 2nd Skill
Gives Status Cleanse and Invulnerability

[cedar flint]

i i thought they meant the augment

[opal leaf]

No...

[wary forge]

i did mean the augment

normally the 2 doesnt do that but like theres no reason to run rolling guard when tidal impunity is just better in every way

[opal leaf]

Oh... Wait what? I don't have the Aug but it does tjat

. What happening to my warframe hahah

[opal leaf]

Ohhh

[lime phoenix]

this works well for me

also oops i was very scrolled up my bad

[wary forge]

why u on sl over equi

[lime phoenix]

purple shards

[wary forge]

so then dont run sl then

[lime phoenix]

i suppose i could run one of the augur mods

[astral tinsel]

do you feel like you need the streamline?

[lime phoenix]

no i don't

but i do like feeling like my abilities cost nothing

[astral tinsel]

I get so many orbs from marked enemies that I don't mind the costs

[lime phoenix]

that's very true

i tried blind rage but that feels real bad

[astral tinsel]

honestly not that big of a fan of purple shards over equilibrium unless I can fully cover my needs with one or two

[versed harbor]

agree

[dusky bane]

replacing a mod with 2 shards sound very expensive

[astral tinsel]

I mean, strength shards are like 34% of umbral intensify

equi shards are 27%

[dusky bane]

ye, but when you use strength shards, you likely already slotted a lot of strength in mods

double dipping into strength vs trying to replace equi

[astral tinsel]

I also run two cast speed shards on some frames, even though natural talent would be enough...

[dusky bane]

natural talent feels so bad to slot tho

[velvet pulsar]

What about one tau cast speed shard?

[velvet pulsar]

That one should've been exilus I think

[astral tinsel]

that's fine most of the time

[dusky bane]

it feels too good for an exilus, but not enough for a regular mod

[astral tinsel]

but on something like dante...

[lime phoenix]

on nokko i can't play without 2

[velvet pulsar]

Good.

[fresh solstice]

Anyone has a good valkyr prime build?

[opal leaf]

Imo... Natural Talent is just a waste of slot... But I use it for some ass meme builds

[slate hedge]

What's a good setup for Kullervos with Xoris?

[opal leaf]

All strength and Duration

Forget everything and run it hahahah

[opal leaf]

Jokes aside though

Prioritize Strength and Duration, it's the 2 most important stat in his build

[slate hedge]

Got it, what about shards?

[opal leaf]

Flow and Equi for Energy and use his augment Volatile Recompense for survivability

[opal leaf]

Since I don't have the purple, orange shards like that

I would run 1 tau red for duration and another 2 or 3 tau red for strength then 1 or 2 casting speed

And do Tau at least have tau shards

[slate hedge]

Is it best to run purple?

[opal leaf]

That's outside of my expertise so wait for others to see that hahaha sorry tenno

[slate hedge]

Haha all good

[wary forge]

YES

oops all caps

[opal leaf]

What stats?

[wary forge]

wdym

if ur doing a melee build u should be doing atleast 2 to 3 purple cd shards

[slate hedge]

Not sure what arcanes to run with kullervos

I want to use Hate and Xoris

[wary forge]

hes braindead with persistence

other acane is anything really something like fury is good to give u even more melee dmg

[opal leaf]

Ah well I don't have it so yeah hahahah oh and BTW is it OK to ask smth Zach?

[wary forge]

if u dont got them its all good

[opal leaf]

Yo got a question

Is normal Sobek ok for doing the Shenanigans with Cyte while farming for Kuva Sobek?

Like a placeholder

[wary forge]

u can use normal sobek

[opal leaf]

Aight thanks

[wary forge]

np

[dusky bane]

it's only slightly worse, I still use regular cause I'm too lazy to get a kuva

[opal leaf]

Alright guess we are quite the same

.

[dusky bane]

well I got 8 forma and a riven for mine, so I'm not exactly incentivized

[opal leaf]

Any replacement for the riv?

[dusky bane]

my build's dumb and you probably shouldn't copy it

[opal leaf]

Might copy it for reference and edit the elements

I heard electric is a good element for Sobek

[lime phoenix]

it is yes

[opal leaf]

Yee

[unborn summit]

Any tips to improve my Hek build?

[vale abyss]

so whats ur best and fast nuke build/frame?

[unborn summit]

I don't have a fast/best build/frame. I am new to warframe for a few weeks

I also have an Aeolak build

Here's my Warframe build

[astral tinsel]

you're missing super basic mods... honestly just use the Aeolak

try to get vital sense or another crit damage mod

[prime scarab]

Okay, I think I'm in love with the Grendel playstyle. Full speed rolling around, thanos snapping 5 enemies at a time and beating their friends to death with their corpses, its very satisfying.

It doesn't seem to require much in the way of weapons so I'm just gonna slap Torid on him but...

Are there any companions he really benefits from? I've got a viral heal panzer on him right now but Idk how much I even need the healing.

[compact cypress]

is there anything to change about this ulfruns descent build?

[astral tinsel]

looks pretty close to mine

just keep in mind you are uncloaked while lunging

so crepuscular won't work unless you are very close

[timber sparrow]

does anyone have a build with arcane persistence

any warframe im just curious lol

[wary forge]

tri umbral mods

[prime scarab]

https://www.underframe.site/vshare/538467/persistencegrendel

This is my Grendel one. Its not even 100% finished and it level caps just fine.

(I have to figure out the archon shards still and I'm considering options for Exilus slot)

I have an Oraxia one too but I haven't put it up on the site yet

Hers is easier frankly. Two blue tau and you're pretty much done.

Spider Stride is bonkers

[steady current]

Hi, havent played in a long time (before the gram riven nerf :D)
Is there something i can improve in it? (Gram prime^^)

[dusky bane]

depends on who you're playing

cyte? yes
saryn? meh
anyone else? lowkey don't use sobek

[dusky bane]

that riven isn't worth using

the standard melee build nowadays looks something like this

[prime scarab]

Oraxia

Its really good on her too.

[dusky bane]

like yes, sure
but if you want a toxin acid shells build just play saryn ngl

[prime scarab]

Eh. I prefer it on Oraxia because persistence is easier and she's status immune. Its just a comfier style of play.

Saryn is better at it, but Oraxia is smoother imo

[wary forge]

sayrn is status immune

just spam molt

[dusky bane]

the humble shield recharge delay mods

[prime scarab]

Right so anyway when you're doing a build that isn't going to kill your fingers every time you play it, Oraxia is smoother

[dusky bane]

pressing 3 buttons once a minute and clicking on enemies kills your fingers?

[wary forge]

u dont spam like that in a normal mission lol relaly just in lvl cap

but ye all u need is brief respite and catalzying shields and u never die on sayrn

[prime scarab]

I was referring to zach suggesting Saryn is status immune by spamming molt

[wary forge]

every time ur shield breaks just click molt

[dusky bane]

as if you get status procced that often

[wary forge]

she has one of the best and most comfy shieldgates

[prime scarab]

I don't see how anything you're saying even remotely changes anything I've said lmao

Shieldgating is great. Its fine. I pretty plainly wasn't talking about shield gating and laid out what I was talking about

I'm glad you have fun with Saryn tho

[wary forge]

imo i jsut disagree oxraix is more comfy and sayrn is just better with sobek thats just a fact the reason u would go oraxia is for the movement thats the only reason imo

[prime scarab]

I never said Oraxia was better with it. I'm glad you like Saryn though.

[wary forge]

u said persistence is easier which i dont think is true and u said sayrn is better so then on ur logic why even pick oraxia

u didnt mention anything about her movement

[prime scarab]

Thats wild that you read everything I said and still can't figure it out

I'm not engaging with you genuinely because consistently you only come in here to rage bait so you have fun thinkin on that bud

[wary forge]

im not ragebaiting

[prime scarab]

This time, sure. But you've tried it on me enough that I don't care to actually do this with you.

[wary forge]

here ill copy paste what u said u can understand

[prime scarab]

I'm just gonna ignore you lmao but you have fun

[wary forge]

ok

just admit u dont like shieldgating its not that deep

[prime scarab]

Whatever makes you feel better, dude...

[gray quarry]

What be happening in here

[wary forge]

u just said ur werent going to engage and u did ur tuff guy persona is dropping

[prime scarab]

"Hehe I got you to respond...."

Dude you're obsessed stop

[wary forge]

legit nothing at all

[prime scarab]

Zach is rage baiting again, as usual

[wary forge]

i just said sayrn was more comfy and he just doesnt want to admit that shield gating is hard for him i guess

prob thinks adaptation is a good mod as well

[prime scarab]

I'm just blocking him and moving on. Dude only ever responds to argue.

[wary forge]

tottaly

blocking on discord youve really stuped that low

[steady current]

Thanks, what site is this?

[dusky bane]

not a site, just an image made by a guy who's good at builds

[wary forge]

thers a build site called overframe

u can make builds and look at others peoples build

[steady current]

Thanks 🙂

[coral crest]

Alternative is Underframe

It's also very good

(this isn't a joke)

(and Underframe's build calculator is better)

[steady current]

Doesnt have a build for gram apparently

[opal leaf]

Cyte ofc hahaha

My Deathbed

[dusky bane]

I sent you the build

[opal leaf]

True I used that in most of the time

[steady current]

Yeah, just meant on underframe.

[gray quarry]

Ah

[prime scarab]

Yeah I fully admit the first time I complained about overframe not being updated and someone said to try underframe I was skeptical lmao

[opal leaf]

I look Overframe just for reference guide like the type of:

"what do this frame need? Is it this focus or that focus"

[coral crest]

I was one of the first people to learn of its existence and telling people to use it was quite an experience

[buoyant patio]

Wait there's actually a build site called Underframe now? That's hilarious.

[prime scarab]

It feels like a joke!!!

"hehe...don't like OVERframe, huh? try UNDERframe..."

[dusky bane]

it was fairly advertised on the other server

[dusky bane]

I do believe that was intentional
I can ask the guy who made it lol

[coral crest]

I think i was there before it got the advertisement

But I can't remember

My brain is a mush

[prime scarab]

Yeah I'll still use Overframe to check out Ninjase as a concept sometimes. His stuff is very boilerplate but its well constructed enough that you can make any tweaks you want to and still get a core concept if you were struggling.

[coral crest]

https://www.underframe.site/

[dusky bane]

ninjase's stuff's made to be able to copy paste it and not worry if it'll be able to handle itself

[prime scarab]

Yeah, his builds are a really solid place to start if you want to get a frame moving.

I think he tends to include budget suggestions too

[coral crest]

His builds also have something a lot of other builds don't

A lot of them started out as complete shit and got improved with feedback

[prime scarab]

Yeah, agreed. You can see the comment threads.

[dusky bane]

place to start?
lowkey 95% of the playerbase can't even improve upon them

[opal leaf]

Yeah he has good explanation that's the only reason I go there hahaha

[dusky bane]

I hesitate to open overframe comments
Last time I did, I got a headache from some of those people 😭

[coral crest]

So they're like half community effort

[prime scarab]

I just mean to personalize it lol

I'll occassionally swap out certain exilus for mobility to taste, maybe a bit more range over str for what I want, stuff like that

[brave flame]

What Archon shards work best on Lavos?

[dusky bane]

fair, exilus is usually the least important part
half of my builds don't even have one to save forma

[prime scarab]

Yeah, the exilus is usually just something I slap 22% parkour on and move on lmao

[opal leaf]

If you wsnt to personalize it

Go apeshit

Like seriously hahahahaha

I have an Incarnoff Torid build that is Viral Slash build with Galvanized Aptitude

[coral crest]

Depends on how you wanna use him. But generally he doesn't need anything specific

[gray quarry]

I’ve used his builds back when I got into sp, his builds carried me into sp

[prime scarab]

Yeah I'm making a Grendel build right now built specifically for max speed to do open world content without an archwing looool

[coral crest]

His main ability dmg source scales from priming

He doesn't need energy as well

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

[brave flame]

Obviously lol

I'm running a hybrid weapon platform/caster build

[coral crest]

Best I can think of is casting speed and armor shards if you are running persistence without triumbral

For arch vitality shenanigans

He needs like 2 blues?

[brave flame]

I see. Also, Arcanes, I'm running Arcane Persistence and Molt Augumented rn

[prime scarab]

I find the most enjoyment when I can maneuver really effectively so I tend to always build speed and mobility and sacrifice a bit of dmg for it.

If I wanna level cap I'll just play a frame I don't need to do that for

Its why I wish they would take Chroma's second bullet jump and add it to Zephyr's passive and then rework Chroma entirely

[wary forge]

no shot youve ever done a level cap

[opal leaf]

True

I use Vauban or Rev fire that

[wary forge]

chroma doesnt need a rework only change he needs is to his first

[prime scarab]

I actually just finished Vauban Prime the other day. He's really really fun.

[wary forge]

and jsut make vex armor less weird

[dusky bane]

he def needs a rework
his 1 and 4 do next to nothing
and half of his 2 is forgettable

[wary forge]

more so qol then a full rework something more in line of vauban

[wary forge]

perment 20% ms is not nothing

[coral crest]

Chroma is fine imo

[dusky bane]

it's also not much either