builds-discussion

[gleaming vapor]

btw how many shards do you have on your mesa?

[spice ravine]

Now time to Forma my mesa another 2 times

[spice ravine]

All topaz

[gleaming vapor]

swap ppg for anemic agility

[spice ravine]

Only 1 is tauforged

[gleaming vapor]

same case

[lime phoenix]

all topaz is pretty funny

[spice ravine]

What’s ppg

[gleaming vapor]

primed pistol gambit

[spice ravine]

Why

[gleaming vapor]

you have 675 external cc

anemic is higher dps than ppg atp

[spice ravine]

I see

I have 675 but I’m still not hitting constant red on normal star chart some how

[gleaming vapor]

its 675 modded, but also fully stacked

[spice ravine]

I see

[gleaming vapor]

its about 250 actual cc without ppg

[spice ravine]

Wait but I’m planning to get melee crescendo

[gleaming vapor]

oh yeah this is without outburst

lemme calc that rq

yeah 193, so no red crits yet

240 with ppg

so run ppg if red crits are more important to you

or run anemic if damage is more importnat to you

[spice ravine]

So do I still use the modified build w/ melee crescendo?

[gleaming vapor]

nope

same build

just with outburst obviously

[spice ravine]

Yea I meant the one you guys recommended

[gleaming vapor]

yea

[spice ravine]

Ok

[gleaming vapor]

well as long as were on teh subject of mesa i might as well plug my shit here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-mGL92d09RZE_F9CgQpITkFYFMc_WWSpZHbPIKw35yI/edit?tab=t.0

[woven drift]

Yo what's a good replacement gun for acceltra prime
I got bored of it

[gleaming vapor]

what are you lookin for

besides a primary obviously

[woven drift]

So I'm after a auto cause a semi is good but while I'm playing I tend to forget to let go of the trigger

Aoe is also preferred but I'll look into non aoe primaries

[gleaming vapor]

could always go for burston incarnon

[woven drift]

Fair just gotta wait for that to come around again

[velvet pulsar]

(Coda) Bubonico

Primary fire is auto, alternate fire is AoE.

[mighty sun]

Can anyone let me know if this is a good riven? If not, what should I be looking for on this one?

[timid crest]

Just rolled this guy for my voruna prime! amazing colours!

[civic ingot]

Does anyone know a good build for follie?

[acoustic bluff]

You should check the prices on him. Theres a kubrow selling market

[quiet mesa]

How do you breed him? I'm no expert in Kubrow

[acoustic bluff]

Those lotus pattern ones can go for thousands iirc

[compact cypress]

hows this xaku build?

[weary yacht]

can I get vauban builds? preferably without helminth
also a crowd clear build for sicarus incarnon would be greatly appreciated

[limpid basin]

is there a way for Baruuk to be immune to status effects? Does Nezha subsume work with him?

[nova swift]

Good resource, I didn't know mesa shatter shield was also misc damage. I'll need to experiment with that one too sometime (I know koumei decrees/chroma has some misc damage too)

Have you tried the encumber/impetus/galvanized shot combo? Can give you nice passive energy regen with archon stretch too and allows you to drop equilibrium

[unkempt jay]

Is there anything I should change aside from tennokai mod which I'll get later on.

[gleaming vapor]

no it doesnt lmao

archon stretch doesnt work while youre in 4

also mesa has a base 10% sc youre hitting 1 status per maybe eventually

[wary forge]

Faction mod is gonna be more dps then that riven

You really want range and elec on the riven minimum riven isn’t slotable otherwise

But ye that build is good

[nova swift]

Why you in your 4 tho. Youre either moving or murdering everything in midair. I guess you play mesa exclusively at lvl 1k+? I guess there you would run into ttk issues yea

[gleaming vapor]

where are you going where there are so few enemies for so long that archon stretch gets you significant amounts of energy

[nova swift]

Im out of my 4 before I hit the ground. I take her to eta/eda so there I guess. Its not significant amount of energy. Just that max stack impetus+duration and stretch in downtimes are enough to sustain energy. With nourish active

[wary forge]

You already have infinite energy with nourish+energy nexus

[weary yacht]

archon stretch is just some nice trickle energy, I use it on most of my frames so I have passive income

[gleaming vapor]

bro please stop using energy nexus on mesa 😭

ts DOES NOT WORK while youre in 4

[wary forge]

Yeah I’m just saying tho

[gleaming vapor]

youll be fine with eqeuilibrium + nourish if youre killing enemies

[wary forge]

Ye

[weary yacht]

equil with any health orb gen thing is just free energy and health, is nice

arch stretch and equil on my frames basically keep my frames fed while my diriga does its thang

[weary yacht]

please?

[opal leaf]

I have one

Wait let me get it

[weary yacht]

can't wait for the upcoming weekly reset, okina and sicarus incarnons will finally be mine (been waiting like a month and a half for them lol)

[opal leaf]

Here is my Vauban build

Weird? I know, but it's a comfy balance between survivability and practicality

(I didn't have primed continuity)

[wary forge]

Lazy gate Vauban with omamori

[opal leaf]

Trust, this build is the one that brought me to at least lvl 1200+ in cascade

With my shitty Sirocco amp

[weary yacht]

tesla bank doesn't care who kills the enemy right? just that it is stuck to someone and the enemy died?

[wary forge]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Yeah but they always go separated ways

They scatter as much as possible (but not too much)

I mean it depends on the range too

[weary yacht]

fine by me, just like knowing that my team can also benefit from my build (and that I won't be losing power purely because my friend flew in and nuked a room that I was in)

[opal leaf]

That's true

[weary yacht]

its one of the many reasons I haven't used harrow in years

[opal leaf]

Damn

[weary yacht]

harrow is (from my experience and memory) a very selfish frame, he needs to get kills or his kit kinda stumbles and collapses

[opal leaf]

I mean, I go solo mostly, so I have no problems with those heheheheh

[opal leaf]

You wanna know who's selfish?

L I M B O...

[weary yacht]

gods I want him to get reworked, I would play him purely because of his aesthetic, but his kit is just... ehhh

[opal leaf]

Limbo? Or Harrow

[weary yacht]

limbo, I love the dapper boi

[opal leaf]

Hahaha

I haven't tried him and he is so expensive too

But whenever he is in the squad, I cannot shoot nor my Vauban can't swallow enemiea

I'm sorry, VoidBan

[warm obsidian]

Anyone has a Regulator build with Mesa having Nourish

[gleaming vapor]

put ppg overt anemic if you dont have shards/cc arcanes

[dusty dragon]

How does melee careen interact with uriel’s 1?

[astral bane]

does anyone know how i can make sevagoth broken without any brain useage?

[lavish orbit]

It does nothing when you fly around

[lavish orbit]

Brief respite, catalyzing shield, both augments, some energy, spam 1st and 2nd, with a bit of viral or roar helminth on 4th it's even better

[proper meadow]

If I put arcane aegis on my Caliban won't I be effectively immortal?

[astral bane]

i just got sevagoth

not even 10 hours ago, roar doesnt show up in his abilities

[lavish orbit]

U just got sevagoth you mean ?

[astral bane]

yeah

[lavish orbit]

Sure, epitaph is good if you prefer, priming viral and/or using roar with 1st and 2nd spam build obliterate enemies to level cap since it's health%

[astral bane]

bro

im new to warframe, whats roar

i dont even know what half this guys kit does

i seen a video where he looked broken asl and i decided to get his prime

[old marsh]

Whenever in doubt. Use Warframe Wiki

[gleaming vapor]

rhino’s ability

google subsume

[proper meadow]

how is this on caliban

[lavish orbit]

Ah yes litteraly braindead without any knowledge on the character itself. The combinaison of his 1st and 2nd make health% damage while duplicating the shadow when it kills enemies. The augmentations for his abilities are found in syndicates (need to find which one), it helps for the nuke. To unlock the helminth you need to farm Deimos (syndicate). The rest of the mod can be found on the wiki with the enemies that drop them. Viral can blow up the damage on health to 325% at 10 stacks, so priming (putting the status) is a great help against all type of enemies.

[old marsh]

Question about Glaives. When you do a charged throw, is it considered a heavy attack? Or is it the explosion only that’s considered a heavy attack. Coz the wind up speed can be reduced through the mods like amalgam and killing blow. But they specify it was heavy attack wind up speed. Which would also mean that the Glaive charge up is considered a heavy attack. So which is true?

[astral bane]

is this a good build?

[astral bane]

🤯

im looking at the wiki rn, only rhino can have roar?

[gleaming vapor]

google subsume

[astral bane]

asborb

i dont get it, im new

[gleaming vapor]

check wiki for subsume

it’ll make sense then

[lavish orbit]

Google subsume helminth, basically you unlock it on deimos

[astral bane]

i've yet to conquer deimos

ill do that rq

[opal leaf]

No flow? No equilibrium?

[proper meadow]

Nope

[opal leaf]

Why?

[proper meadow]

Considering how well it's going I'm considering taking off 2 mods to make space for flow and a survivability mod

Like honestly it's enough even without augur secrets and intensify

[opal leaf]

Yeah good one

Im sure you have the purple shard for Equilibrium?

[proper meadow]

Nope

[lavish orbit]

His 1st give energy

[opal leaf]

If he spam it then sure

It counts as how many enemies he gets too

[lavish orbit]

Yes, a build like that wouldn't perform well out of steelpath

[proper meadow]

I didn't run out energy once just now

[opal leaf]

True

[proper meadow]

But I might want to build a bit survivability

1 toxin proc and it's OVER

[opal leaf]

Aight, just remove Augur for Flow

[opal leaf]

Rolling Guard

[proper meadow]

No like it's OVER on the first damage instance

No time to roll

[opal leaf]

Oj

[proper meadow]

Oh also the reason I didn't need flow is I have a Tau blue on this

[versed harbor]

probably no point building to tank the toxin you'll still get one tapped usually :[

[opal leaf]

Tbh that's where we differentiate

I don't have problem with survivability, especially with Toxin, I have my ways hahaha

[proper meadow]

I don't die other than toxin tho

Since summons restore shield

[versed harbor]

yeye thats normal

[opal leaf]

It's very easy to counter

[proper meadow]

How

[opal leaf]

Do you have access to your 5?

You should be

[proper meadow]

Ye?

[astral bane]

so i finished the last missions i had on deimos, helminth isnt showing up

[opal leaf]

When you get toxin

Immediately press 5, and crouch for 5 seconds or get away

That's it

Or the easiest way is kill. Them before it reach you

[versed harbor]

its not a mission completion thing you need to progress the entrati faction and buy the segment for your ship

[proper meadow]

The issue is.. I need to go near enemies with the 1

And if I go through a toxin eximus won't I just die?

But ye flow isn't needed

Maybe I just go full strength?

[opal leaf]

Yeah see?

See why you sometimes need a "BACK up" energy container

. 1 is a good source sure

But you need other sources

Equilibrium is there

Use it

[proper meadow]

No that's not what I meant

[opal leaf]

Remove Augur secrets and put Equi

[proper meadow]

The issue is I die if I go near a toxin eximus with 1 right?

Energy isn't a problem like I already said

[opal leaf]

Yes

Then don't use your 1

Easy as that

Kill them and use 1 when needed

That is the reason why we sometimes just don't rely on abilities that needed to pass through enemies

[versed harbor]

tbh u should keep tox in mind but toxin isnt as common as you'd think unless its infested

[opal leaf]

Unless we can kill them in an instant, we don't go near enemies

[versed harbor]

wouldnt worry that much about it

[proper meadow]

Ik it's rare but the random deaths are annoying

[opal leaf]

Better safe than sorry

[opal leaf]

Yeah but it's better to be ready for it

That's my survivability all about

Able to Manipulate the field so I won't worry from them

[versed harbor]

if u wanna prepare for toxin u just gotta kill faster or play a different frame

[opal leaf]

I would agree so too

[proper meadow]

But isn't most my damage due to the 1?

[versed harbor]

or u could play vazarin focus but its rly boring

[opal leaf]

Idk man, you do you, I don't even use Caliban's one bc it sucks

[proper meadow]

How

It's rly good

[opal leaf]

Repetitive & disorienting, and I'd rather be outside the enemy's territory and let my summons do their stuff

[proper meadow]

But u get like 300% extra fire rate and damage

[opal leaf]

That's not needed given my weapon is Torid

Good buffs sure, but I have frames that does better buffs while being staying still

Take Mirage for example, with her solar eclipse, her damage can go 400% and above damage while the shots are separated 5x bc of her clones so, literal cleaning the rooms without any problem

It's just a matter of perspective

That's the reason why I usually do Equi and Flow bc most of the time, I don't want to go inside the enemy territory just to get energy when I can just kill them, and have their health orb and energy orb for the emergy

[proper meadow]

For the summons i mean

[opal leaf]

The ability strength does that and the 4 does it nest

Plus his 2 gives damage vulnerability too

so not needed

What one does best is giving energy and bc it has an augment to group them

That's all

[proper meadow]

Ye and the augment makes the summon do way more damage

[opal leaf]

Again, not needed

Sure use it

But I'm Not Going in the enemy territory just for that

Note that Caliban's Summon Ai sucks (like... A bit)

[lapis falcon]

dread incarnon inf body pt?

[proper meadow]

Hmm I don't think it's so bad

[opal leaf]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Again, it's your preference

I'm just saying the possibilities and how I play

You do you, if it works, then it works

[lapis falcon]

caliban aug makes his minions deal 10-200mil dmg w/o any priming, and the AI isnt bad at all, can easily nuke a room with 1 rotation

nourish over 4

[opal leaf]

Cool to know

Caliban is not my type of frame sooo

But the build needed for it tho

[lapis falcon]

didnt really read the entire conversation, my head kinda hurts rn so im just putting this here as random info

[lapis falcon]

wym?

[opal leaf]

It's quite invested, that's why it's good

[old marsh]

Plz use Tau shards

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[lapis falcon]

i barely play this game bruh, i only have taus for like 3-4 frames

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[opal leaf]

Ay... No complaints you investor

We poor out here hahaha

[old marsh]

Es. Be rich

[lapis falcon]

doesnt really cost that much, atleast compared to my actual high investment builds...

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-house-braindead-stupidity-buy-gif-26259659

[opal leaf]

I haven't invested on any frame that much aside Xaku, Nova and Harrow

Vauban is good without the shards but I needed one for sure

[old marsh]

Also u wanna use Archon Stretch on that build

[lapis falcon]

sev is prolly my most expensive

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/lavos-warfame-warframe-lavos-warframe-wf-gif-17512526456482330838

[opal leaf]

Vaubs?

[old marsh]

Razor Motor

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah that's true

[lapis falcon]

pointless

more mod space, even tho he still has infinite energy

[old marsh]

What’s pointless is augur reach

[opal leaf]

I never liked his 1 tbh, Caliban's 1 is awkward hahahaha

[opal leaf]

If there are ways to use Archon Stretch, I'd probably use it than Augur reach hahaha

[lapis falcon]

too lazy to forma

im missing 1 mod cap for stretch

it makes no difference anyway

[astral bane]

whats the best overall companion ingame? i still got taxon and i feel im being held back by it

[rough oak]

MOOOREEEE!!!!!! MOREEE DURATIONNN!!!!!!!

[astral cipher]

So I'm currently rebuilding and redesigning my gara build so I can get her level cap ready, I am just not exactly sure how I need to build her at the moment, so far this has been fine for steel path but I know I'm missing a key element to be a decent tank or that's not the proper way to play her, any ideas or recommendations would be amazing

[hexed lodge]

panzer vulpaphila is the most "jack of all trades" type of companion

[dull ginkgo]

what mods would you all say would work for Garuda, I wanna do a build without removing any of her abilities

[warm obsidian]

What's a good subsume for Nova's 2?

[gray quarry]

Whatever you feel like

Nourish, roar, shock(shock trooper), etc

[astral tinsel]

For a neutron star nuke build

I'm afraid rawr is the best option

[viscid elm]

Idk I play an opposite build a range build to swipe rooms

[opal leaf]

Rawr? Not Nawrish?

[viscid elm]

Nourish give the viral proc on the neutron star

[astral tinsel]

Oh yeah I forgot about universal weapon mechanics for a bit

[old marsh]

Doesn’t have Molt Eff or Concen.

So clearly build incomplete

[old marsh]

Roar since u r using her 1

[old marsh]

Also NM isn’t max ranked. Plz upgrade your mod

🙏

[fast delta]

how is this modding

[graceful anvil]

Hey does anyone have any good Loki prime builds? I have no idea what to do with this guy

[prisma rover]

guys,im new what mod should i get for boltor

[analog stirrup]

Switch teleport augment, all the duration and smol bit of range. Imortal loki aquired as long as there are enemies around :3

[graceful anvil]

thankies!

Like this? O:

[analog stirrup]

Basic rifle mods, serration, multishot, elementals... Doenst need too much to work untill you have access to better things

[prisma rover]

how do i unlock better mods tho

[analog stirrup]

Most mods you get just from playing, just need to upgrade them.

[restive flax]

what to change for a good slam magistar

[dense saffron]

Trying to build Tigris prime

[analog stirrup]

Replace reach for fury or quickening, that - atk speed hurts

[old marsh]

Reach is pointless. Same for Radon

[restive flax]

hmmm i thought reach would affect slam attack range but ig not

[old marsh]

Can drop Frost too. Make it pure toxin so it bypasses shields

[old marsh]

It doesn’t. Your jump height does

Rest is fine. Assuming in the last slot u got a Crit dmg mod or Blood Rush

[restive flax]

ye organ shatter. since im using it for slam i just animation cancel it by rolling after slamming which is why i ignored the attack speed

[old marsh]

U basically have to swap out half the mods. If not more

[dense saffron]

Is tigris prime even viable on steel path ( I mean every weapon is kinda right?)

[restive flax]

it is but hopefully better with new incarnon

[old marsh]

It will be once we get the Incarnon next year

[restive flax]

do u have a similar build i can copy and test out.

[old marsh]

I am even keeping Sancti Tigris just hoping either one has better final stats

[old marsh]

The same one I shared.

I have +30 IC in my riven along with 250CC. Shouldn’t make much difference tbh. But u can have corrupt charge if u want to get to x8 perma combo with reflex

Otherwise x6 perma combo is fine too

[dense saffron]

Im just building this cuz of a fashion frame

[old marsh]

Then why bother posting build

[dense saffron]

I want it to be effective

[naive hinge]

what will be better for voruna 4 attacks
intentify or precision inten ?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[old marsh]

Umbral

[dense saffron]

I have a decently effective Atlas prime build

and just made atlas into minos prime

[restive flax]

which arcane? also when is it better to use galv steel instead of sacrificial

[old marsh]

I made a mistake to use an Umbral Forma on it so I am inclined to use SS. But u should stick with GS

[naive hinge]

dont have its polarity + not leveled much

[old marsh]

Then mod it when u do. No rush

https://tenor.com/view/pat-gif-22320808

[naive hinge]

🗿

[dense saffron]

is it worth using this on atlas prime?

gonna upgrade it asking before I do it

[old marsh]

There is another arcane that works with melee crits/kills. use that. Think it’s Fury or something

[rocky mason]

No

[dense saffron]

This one?

[old marsh]

Also don’t use Strike. Atk speed for atlas is based on casting speed

[old marsh]

Ye

[rocky mason]

I'd say even that one is not needed, for atlas it's much better to have arcanes for utility

Like arcane battery

[dense saffron]

this is kinda my build for atlas himself

[rocky mason]

Battery instead of blade charger would be my first change

[old marsh]

Atlas build with Adaptation is accurate for visual purposes only

[rocky mason]

Then drop adaptation for an armor mod

That way you can remove flow

Open space is good

Can add something else there like streamline if you're early

[dense saffron]

only got 3 viable Armor mods

Rumbled does not count here

[rocky mason]

Armored agility or steel fiber are the same polarity as the slot adaptation was on

Ideally you would want to run triple umbral but you don't have it maxed out yet so it's worse than just using the regular versions

Because it takes more capacity

[dense saffron]

yea

[cinder isle]

Hey, does Whipclaw also go with ability strength?

[dense saffron]

I learned that with the melee mods

[rocky mason]

Yeah it scales with ability strength

[old marsh]

These r the 2 builds I use interchangeably. Try whichever u like

[rocky mason]

But only the base damage so people sometimes run max range khora with negative strength and the augment for the base damage

[dense saffron]

what are these arcanes?

[old marsh]

Bellicose and Blessing

Basically as mission goes on, u gain health which also increases your STR to +72% which is even higher than Molt Aug

[dense saffron]

are they hard to grind for?

[old marsh]

Not bellicose. That’s dirt cheap. Can’t remember Blessing. U will have to check. If u don’t have the arcane, don’t rush. My main suggestion was for the mods

[dense saffron]

idk where this is

[old marsh]

Lua is the only planet with Conjunction Survivals. Last 2 nodes

When in doubt. Click the link

[proper meadow]

Would it be valid to build Caliban for each of the summons specifically? Rn I have ortholyst build but I want to build the others too..

[wary forge]

Armored agility sucks lmao

One of the worst mods in the game

Glad resolve clears it

[viscid bane]

What's the buildfor platrforming volt? duration and strength?

[karmic quartz]

Chat what's the best tennet weapon

[fierce lark]

arca plasmor or glaxion, take your pick really

[fierce lark]

high str/dur, some added range if you're using capacitance to survive

[karmic quartz]

what are those

[fierce lark]

a single-projectile shotgun that shoots an energy wall, and a chaining beam rifle

[forest belfry]

Anyone got a proper and reliable build for Enkaus? The new beam weapon that came with Follie? Been dying to make a build for it but I have no clue how to build/ proceed with it.

Goal is to be able decimate enemies, that's all.

[fierce lark]

probably standard viral heat

[karmic quartz]

plasmor sounds fun

[fierce lark]

it is

the coda bassocyst from 1999 is very similar. does a bit more damage, shoots faster, way bigger mag, has a gimmicky altfire which gives it a multishot buff on mercy kills, and it can headshot and gets headshot multipliers, but the projectile is smaller and doesn't bounce off of walls

[naive hinge]

what to buy 🙂

[fierce lark]

cracker > cryo > ravage > banes

or the first 3 can go in any order depending on which weapon class you use most often vs rifle shotgun pistol

[naive hinge]

rifle is the most then idk

[forest belfry]

BARO IS BACK?

[naive hinge]

maybe pistol for titania

[naive hinge]

YE maybe

[forest belfry]

FUGGG I NEED THEM CATS. GOOD PRIMED MODS THIS TIME.

[fierce lark]

yeah last week's baro was a repeat of the prior week due to im guessing server issues

so we got 3 b2b weeks of baro

[naive hinge]

i can buy them all first 3 should i ?

[naive hinge]

it was for ios problem that made them not able to play the friday before it

[fierce lark]

definitely want to buy the non-faction primes there

[quiet laurel]

and even then primed smite grineer is like the most important bane

so lowkey all primed mods really good this week

[dusky bane]

goated run actually

[dusky bane]

imo yes

[naive hinge]

why

am i the only want who ignore faction mods ?

[quiet laurel]

grineer are the most tanky faction we have primed banes for

[quiet laurel]

no but they are very good for longer missions

[rocky mason]

Most people do

[dense moat]

anyone got a huras build?

[fresh surge]

bc they are not needed for 99% of content tbh

they are crazy strong just overkill for vast majority of situations

[dusky bane]

that's not why people don't care
it's cause they're lazy to click twice to swap them

[rocky mason]

And also just not applied in most recent content

No bane of the scaldra, techrot, anarch

[granite moat]

yo guys

which riven is better

which is beter

[tough shell]

I also need an answer wich riven IS better

[abstract axle]

Left

No minus is killer on the right one, and duration is a total whiff.

[tough shell]

Ty

[fierce lark]

faction mods are in a weird spot

most weapons get their core build out of 6-7 mods

and then DE keeps giving us things like elementalist or the magnetic mods from hollvania to fill flex slots

[crisp pine]

does anyone have build specifically for the fillo's hunt that makes it less miserable to run on SP?

[dusky bane]

good amp and a frame that can tank damage

that's literally all you need
madurai helps the amp part

[abstract axle]

I highly recommend gauss. Gauss's shield bug still works so you are immortal even in follies nonsense

[crisp pine]

currently using rev for that but the slow and ui clutter is getting to me and I just need frame to negate some of the cc bs not just live thought it. also the energy drain is very annoying

[dense moat]

which subsume do y'all use on qorvex

[mint drum]

is this any good its my first riven mod and not even mr 11 to have the weapon so thinking about selling it but if its a good weapon and decent ill keep it till i can use it

[quiet laurel]

the roll isnt too bad but the weapon is horrible

[mint drum]

so not even worth to sell im guessing?

[quiet laurel]

will be really hard to sell

[mint drum]

is there a way to see sold riven mods to see prices might as well put it for sale and just hope i get some plat for some warframe slots and stuff

[crisp cypress]

For thermal sunder build, is nourish replacing 2nd good choice?

[dusky bane]

why nourish, does that even buff sunder

[opal leaf]

Nope it doesnt

[opal leaf]

I mean... Sure if you want viral and energy supply but....... There are better once

[crisp cypress]

Better like roar?

[opal leaf]

Yes as it applies to his 3

[crisp cypress]

Any other choice?

[opal leaf]

Idk... Choose your pick, I'd go Omamori for the increase survivability

[rocky mason]

Brightbonnet

Bounce on it

[opal leaf]

That's a good one too

[crisp cypress]

Maintaining energy isn't an issue for gauss?

[opal leaf]

At higher level it is

If you think it's the kinetic plating, then yes at higher level, it will be a problem

[crisp cypress]

So brightbonnet will be our best option here

[proper meadow]

Does toxin resistance include the damage?

Like that would perfect my build

[dusky bane]

I believe so

[proper meadow]

Nvm what I was thinking of is arcane resistance which is just the status

I don't think 45% of the mod could possibly save me

[opal leaf]

Bright bonnet and Nourish would be the other

[dusky bane]

what are you trying to do

[opal leaf]

Probably trying to find a way to tank the toxin

That was his problem earlier

With Caliban

[proper meadow]

Yep

[dusky bane]

what toxin

[opal leaf]

Toxin proc from enemies

[wary forge]

What enemie is killing u with a toxin proc

You don’t even need to mod against it

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's what I've been saying and since he loves using Caliban's 1 and keep on going into enemies.... He just couldn't listen

[proper meadow]

Toxin eximus

[crisp cypress]

Thermal sunder will also apply viral?

[proper meadow]

Since Its hard to see if it's a toxin eximus

[opal leaf]

No, just for energy purposes and viral for weapons

[dusky bane]

just prioritize eximus always

[wary forge]

You’re just not gonna die to them

Unless they are like over level like 1k or smth

[proper meadow]

How

[opal leaf]

Yeah...

[proper meadow]

If they hit me I'm dead

[wary forge]

But there’s literally no content where they are over level 1k

[opal leaf]

Aside Cascade hahaha

[wary forge]

Are you sitting in the cloud or smth

[dusky bane]

tbh some shield gate builds get bonked even at like EDTA levels

[wary forge]

True

[proper meadow]

No like I die instantly to toxin in standard sp missions

[wary forge]

That should just not be happening

[dusky bane]

skill issue ngl
toxin units literally glow neon green

[wary forge]

Like most of the time ur gonna be dying to other stuff in addition to the toxin

But like if ur health tanking/have high armor there’s just no way

Even with out that but ye

[opal leaf]

Zach ^

I wouldn't ping since ur already here

Hopefully you can read the message tho hahaha

[wary forge]

Ic

so don’t do that 🤷‍♂️

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's what I've been telling him hahaha

[frozen agate]

hey guys, are archgun arcanes still applying to normal weapons or was that patched?

[proper meadow]

I'm purely shield gating

I have completely unmodified armor and health

Also arcane aegis doesn't seem to be doing much in my build I don't think I need it..

[opal leaf]

Bc ur enemy is a Toxin....

In benefits in shield gating to 99% of the enemies... Just against toxin

[proper meadow]

Why do you get so caught on the toxin? I'm not talking about that

[opal leaf]

It doesn't mean it's useless or not worth the build

All you have to do is step back and shoot them

[opal leaf]

Isnt that your problem? The Toxin that kills you? The status that bypasses your shield?

[proper meadow]

I meant bro....

Arcane aegis. Not worth. Against normal enemies

[fierce lark]

do you understand why aegis is there and what it does?

[opal leaf]

Probably doesnt

[opal leaf]

Do you have catalyzing shield, fast Deflection and vigilant Vigor in your build?

[fierce lark]

that's not even relevant tbh, aegis does what it does regardless of that

though you can proc it more often with shieldgating setups

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[proper meadow]

Actually nvm it's rly good

[fierce lark]

any time your shields take a hit, including damage taken while your shieldgate is active, aegis has a chance to set your shield recharge delay to zero, meaning your shields are permanently recharging while it's active

[proper meadow]

I thought I was tanking that well anyways but no it was bc aegis

[wary forge]

It’s very good

[proper meadow]

I didn't see the activation any time I checked so I assumed it didn't even activate but nah

[fierce lark]

you're essentially immortal to all non-toxin/magnetic damage any time aegis is active

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's a good arcane

I always use that to anything, even r0 is enough

[wary forge]

Yep

[fierce lark]

rank 0 and rank 5 are effectively the same, rank only affects the recharge speed which doesn't matter if you're only using the shields to gate anyways

[opal leaf]

Sure go r5 for completion or collection, but it just the same hahaha

[fierce lark]

it matters if you're using it on hildryn, that's about it

[proper meadow]

Wait does aegis mean like..

If I'm standing under a jade light beam will I still recover shields during it?

[fierce lark]

yep

[proper meadow]

Oh ok yep then I'm 100% using it

[opal leaf]

Speaking of that

Idk why Lavos can activate it almost instantly

[proper meadow]

Even if I recover my full shields in like 3s doesn't matter bc it takes 0.2s to start recovering them

[fierce lark]

the recharge delay with vigor + deflection without any outside sources is 0.5s iirc

and catalyzing shields makes your gates always last 1.33s

[opal leaf]

Yes

[fierce lark]

so you're only vulnerable for very short amounts of time while you're being hit

[opal leaf]

That's why those 3 are important

[proper meadow]

Wait how does catalyzing shields actually work like when do I get the gating with it?

[fierce lark]

personally i rarely use vigor/deflection and prefer active gating and using those two slots for something else

[fierce lark]

when your shields deplete fully, you are immune to damage for 1.33 seconds

[opal leaf]

1.33 seconds of Gate (the Grey part in your health when your shield breaks

[fierce lark]

after that period ends, your shield recharge timer begins to count

[proper meadow]

Oh but that's less than my gate rn

[fierce lark]

yeah but catalyzing shields is always 1.33 seconds

regardless of if you have 10 shields or 1000

[opal leaf]

Yes

[proper meadow]

True I see why it has a point

[fierce lark]

if you don't fully regen to whatever your max shield is, you get a gate duration relative to how much shield you lost

which often is not enough

[opal leaf]

He mostly understand you guys

Idk why he cannot understand me, you can help him more than I do hahaha

I already gave this detail before when explaining lazy shield gating

[proper meadow]

Oh?

I thought shield gate is from max shield that's good to know then

[wary forge]

You get more shields per second the more shields u have yes it just takes longer to get max shields because there are more if that makes sense

That’s why catalyzing shields is so good because it always sets ur gate to 1.33

And lower shields=more value from recharge mods because it takes less time for your shields to be completely restored

[rocky mason]

Whenever they fix catalyzing shields people will cry so much

[proper meadow]

Oh I def want catalyzing then

[opal leaf]

Is it still bugged?

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[wary forge]

Ye

[velvet pulsar]

Survivability bugs aren't getting hard nerf it seems

Probably they're more concerned with "damage too high" bugs than that

[rocky mason]

it gives the full 1.33 duration all the time

instead of only to full shields

so even with the small regen from fast deflection and vigilante vigor you already get it

[opal leaf]

Ahhh see

[opal leaf]

Thing is with these builds plus aegis

Lavos became nigh immortal

[rocky mason]

anything becomes immortal

[wary forge]

Yep

[opal leaf]

Fair

It's just somehow Lavos just does things very differently like.... This did not happen for any of my frames most of the time

It activates immediately

[hallow pewter]

Hey guys so this is my current chroma build but are any other good options for arcanes

[wary forge]

Persistence

Other arcane is whatever blessing is good but not needed

For level cap u need to run umbral fiber or run status cleanse like rolling guard or ur gonna die to a slas/heat proc even with all ur hp and healing from guardian armor having over 1k armor prevents that intirely and fiber boosts ur other umbral mods hence why its bis

[hallow pewter]

But then what to change to put it in the mod ?

[wary forge]

U can drop hunter adrenaline an just run an equi shard or not run transfort/cont

What I said only applies to level cap for everything else it doesn’t matter

[hallow pewter]

I do normal steel path I'm not going for lvl 999

[wary forge]

Then that build is gonna be more then fine

[hallow pewter]

But hunter adrenaline is not really mandatory then I can replace it with something else I have 600 energy in total

[wary forge]

Yes

Cause chroma really doesn’t have energy problems

Especially with guardian armor u just cast vex armor and it’s on you the entire mission really just depends on what ur subsume would be I guess

[hallow pewter]

But his 3 ability is like 100 energy but with the augment for Is not that big of a problem

[wary forge]

Ye and u don’t need to cast the 2 really at all especially if ur using blessing

U cast it more if ur not using blessing but yeah like still

I just go one shard and synth deconstruct on my companion and I never have any energy problems

[hallow pewter]

I cast his 2 occasionally for my pet to bust his HP I use the cat with him

[wary forge]

Yeah

It’s nice to heal u if you somehow get low but like if u have a kubrow/kavat attacking constantly with the hunter mod and ur healing from guardian armor ur just not gonna die even at level cap u really are only at risk of a magnetic proc

Cause with a fully stacked arcane blessing ur gonna be at over 2k hp and ur 2 is gonna give u 600-700 hp and 2k is more then enough honestly

[hallow pewter]

Ok ty for the help and I will try to umbra fiber instead of hunter adrenaline tomorrow and see how it peforms

[wary forge]

No problem

[limber creek]

yo I just got protea prime and since its affinity event weekend I wanna build it fast, anyone got good build?

Same question for Hildryn, ivara, limbo, harrow, equinox and baruuk (all prime)

[compact cypress]

i wanna make a voruna build using her 4 coz its just so fun
what should change on this one

[worthy siren]

More armour, health or shield?

[daring summit]

worst riven ever?

[worthy siren]

I am guessing amour for that Bulwark buff?

[dire terrace]

Best kuva nukor element?

for the lich

[worthy siren]

Uh people might say electric, but I say toxin?

[sudden fox]

I know both are somewhat good but which is considered better?

[dire terrace]

lots of people rather say magnetic... thats confusing me now

[worthy siren]

Well magnetic is good since it is a combined element and it is good against eximus... if status weapon probably magnetic if not then probably toxin (better for corpus I guess)?

[dire terrace]

bc ima do a crit build on the nukor xDDD

[worthy siren]

Tbh I always hear different opinions on the element so I myself am confused...

[dire terrace]

thats why I asked

[dire terrace]

Yeah..I just wanna do a crit build nukor

thats why I ask for the element

[worthy siren]

Well can't really go wrong with toxin.

Corpus toxin, Grineer corrosive.

Narmer, toxin.

[quaint glacier]

which one of these would be better?

i assume left?

[worthy siren]

I guess it depends on your crit chance and build type... Probably the right one though?

actually wait

Let us get a second opinion

[quaint glacier]

👍

i just need a brain damaged gun when i'm playing wisp and dont wanna think

[worthy siren]

wait it is the torid, so right one.

High status chance and crit damage so you can save a slot to add crit chance.

[fierce lark]

right but definitely keep rolling

-rls is annoying

[quaint glacier]

it is very

[worthy siren]

Well if you got the incarnon it isn't too bad...

Most of the time

[quaint glacier]

i have the incarnon

[fierce lark]

it still uses your reload speed to switch to incarnon though, it’s not ideal

[worthy siren]

Really? I forgot about that tbh.

[wary forge]

Right

[compact cypress]

what should i change about my voruna

[wary forge]

It’s still pretty mid keep re rolling it

[worthy siren]

What do ya'll think about this though? Armour right?

[worthy siren]

I'd make tank

[wary forge]

Armor and shield tanking on Garuda is something

[worthy siren]

and health

Or armour I guess...

[wary forge]

Certainly something

[worthy siren]

What is the most tank like weapon? I kinda want to continue this joke about being tanky...

[copper palm]

Any yareli, Lavos, Grendel, and sevagoth prime mains care to flex their endgame builds? Got them all in the cooker rn and trying to prepare a good mod set

[hexed lodge]

You said, sevagoth builds?
you forced my hand...

[worthy siren]

Where is the sevagoth main when you need him?

[hexed lodge]

Go-To Helminthless - https://overframe.gg/build/874263/
Shadow Nuking - https://overframe.gg/build/874330/
Viral Tempest Nuking (Endurance) - https://overframe.gg/build/941620/
Shadowless Nuking - https://overframe.gg/build/900311/
Comfy Cascade Finishers (endurance) - https://overframe.gg/build/852784/

[fair gate]

does anyone have a good zenith build i like the gun but idk if im using all of its potential

o im green

[hexed lodge]

Sombra?

[violet silo]

Ruby is like sombra’s spiritual successor

[worthy siren]

I thought the username was like sev or something? Idk it has been awhile and I am not good with names...

[hexed lodge]

lmao all good also ty, we are both strong sevagoth mains tbh, he is more of a passionate fan, i'm more into his mechanics

[worthy siren]

I am Garuda fanboy

[hexed lodge]

oh, there is thread in this server where they geek on her

[surreal bolt]

im new, how is rolling guard being used with yareli ? 😄

[worthy siren]

I took this myself.

[sleek grove]

What kind of stats should a ceramic dagger riven have

[worthy siren]

DE please optimise, 100% GPU.

[sleek grove]

I wanna get the incarnon when it rotates in

[mighty flare]

not necessary

[sleek grove]

Anyone on rn? This chat seems dead

[worthy siren]

I think it is just the people here rn don't know the answer ( I don't have the incarnon myself).

[sleek grove]

Hmm. Makes sense I guess. There aren't any guides on YouTube either. Thanks

[worthy siren]

Maybe check builds on the incarnon? Sometimes you see someone have one in their build and sometimes hovers over it for a few seconds. ( I am just talking about my experiences looking at builds).

[surreal bolt]

do you happen to have a yareli build you can share ? 😄

[hexed lodge]

honestly if you can't find an expert rn, Ninjase is always a good start anyways

[wary forge]

Ninjase the goat

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/true-get-this-man-a-true-go-my-true-whatever-go-my-true-gif-16382191100563919909

[sleek grove]

Maybe. But I think I'll just sell the riven.

[quaint glacier]

wrong chat whoops

[mighty flare]

most important roll on ceramic dagger (usually) is at least +34 initial combo

[inland saddle]

What else to add or remove for this build?

[hexed lodge]

Sent two of the same.
Remove Blind rage, use Molt Augmented and try to reach at least 200% str with a viral primer and/or use Shadow's 1 grouping for nukes.
Add either arcane guardian or health conversion for health tanking, %armor mods aren't as good as flat armor for Sevagoth health tank

[inland saddle]

Damn wtf I thought u clicked his shadow's ss

[hexed lodge]

also use regular Flow lol

[inland saddle]

Isn't arcane guardian used for healing companion

[hexed lodge]

That's Arcane Bodyguard.

Guardian gives you (at max rank) 900 flat armor, which isn't crazy, but Gloom's instaheals should keep up

[inland saddle]

Ok thanks for the tips lemme see how I can replicate it I don't have any of what you said gotta buy them off

[hexed lodge]

Well, you can also shield-gate instead, but not sure if you like that playstyle

[inland saddle]

For that you need a whole different set of mods and regeneration speed don't think I can get so many things. I'm just starting out into hard content still new to some mechanics

[hexed lodge]

Is just catalizing shields + brief respite or augur mod, but no, it's okay, just offering an alternative

[inland saddle]

Thanks for it tho

[gleaming vapor]

kinda depends on what you wanna use it for tbh

if it’s just an ic stick, get 34 ic and call it a day

if you’re actually gonna use it for gaming, cc cd prolly works

[dense jackal]

Anyone got a trumna build that works in steel path without the use of frames to buff damage?

[atomic stirrup]

I am basically new to building, so I do need help with what to do with a Rhino build.

I do have ironclad charge now and Ik the basic ones but I’m not sure what to do

[dense jackal]

I built mine and full sent it into iron skin.

Put parasitic armor on his 4th and full sent strength

Not new friendly tho

[static sphinx]

How good kuva nukor is?

[dense jackal]

Arguably one of the best weapons ingame

Amazing Elemental weapon

[static sphinx]

Is it atomos but better?

[dense jackal]

Basically

[static sphinx]

I just got 60% kuva nukor lich, but I'm not sure if it's worth vanquishing.

[dense jackal]

Definitely vanquish it

Nukor when paired with weapons that do more damage based on the amount of status on targets is busted

[static sphinx]

Is electric element good for it?

[dense jackal]

If I remember correctly heat and toxin is best but electric is Still super useful

[static sphinx]

Isn't magnetic best as progenitor element? I think I've seen someone saying that, but I'm not sure.

[atomic stirrup]

I will say though I am looking for a tank kind of build along with that I don’t even have any primes yet either.

[dense jackal]

Tends to be subjective. Varys on person to person. Its whatever element you like messing with. Personally I like gas and corrosive

[queen summit]

hotshot doesn’t give final crit chance right?

[static sphinx]

I've started slightly more than a month ago, so I'm still new, but I like viral, magnetic, corrosive. Gas seemed useless to me.

[dense jackal]

Viral is amazing with nukor as it helps spread status even further. Corrosive removes armor and magnetic abliterates shields.

[static sphinx]

Yes that's why I like them. Gas only deals usually insignificant damage overtime in a small area.

[dense jackal]

@atomic stirrup this is a far less expensive build and will work on a default rhino to

Easily racks up 10,000 iron skin if u use roar then his dash and then iron skin

[atomic stirrup]

I feel like that could work. I think I mostly have the mods for it

[dense jackal]

@static sphinx gas can be strong when used right

But situational

[dense jackal]

If there's any mods missing I might have spares I can give

[atomic stirrup]

That would sound good! I’ll look at the mods soon

[static sphinx]

Alright, my bad. But it seems like it has more requirements to be good than other secondary elements (besides radiation and blast because they are almost unusable).

[dense jackal]

Everything has a use and I Will admit other elements are easier to use then others. But like I said each to thier own find what works best for u

Viral and heat, viral and corrosive work best imo

[static sphinx]

True, even blast has some very peculiar uses. There's only one truly unusable element. Unfortunately getting viral + corrosive is impossible without arcanes or Lavos augment from what I know, so I'll either get heat or magnetic after I complete 2 last quests.

[timber sparrow]

hi so... the ocucor.. is not performing as well as i expected. anything wrong with this?

i was doing sp void cascade and it was just "okay"

[uncut sandal]

I’ve been getting really into Nidus and other health tanking lately. What/if any companions help with health tanking? Anything roughly equivalent to shield dog?

[dense jackal]

Can helminth abilities that have life steal properties and im pretty sure doggos have same shield regen mods but health versions

[unborn wadi]

i do but belive me mesa is not worth investing i have already have a max invested mesa build bec there are many frames better then her which can deal may much dmg and fast clear better survival then mesa

[dense jackal]

Synth deconstruct, loyal companion and medi-bay are companion healing mods

[atomic wing]

what element is best for dual torxica?

[dense jackal]

Idk if its best but I did cold and it works like a charm

[atomic stirrup]

Toxic, I found the mods I needed

[dense jackal]

Where you missing any

[atomic stirrup]

I said it in dms

[dense jackal]

Np

[brittle sleet]

For practical purposes, Toxic Lash may as well add Corrosive to weapons, and of course there's always weapons with innate viral or corrosive on them, not that there are many of either

[echo lava]

anyone have a good garuda prime build

[opal leaf]

What kind of build do u want from her

My build is a bit of semi active one

[echo lava]

i like the first ability on her

what does ur build focus on

[opal leaf]

... Everything

Well mostly survivability bc I don't like being so active

She needs a lot of casting speed tho

[echo lava]

yea i have 3 yellow archon shards in her

should i do more

[opal leaf]

No hahahah that should be enough to spam through her kit

[ivory snow]

hi anyone interested about a voruna hate and dual toxocyst (you can lvl cap with both)

easily

without breaking a sweat

without looking

without playing

[ivory snow]

want mine ?

it focus on the basketball

lvl scaling nuking

wtf do i smell bad or smth

[opal leaf]

Hahaha

You'll get used to it

[fierce lark]

magnetic or heat or elec

[fierce lark]

get a maxed rank arcane before anything, and 60/60 toxin status way better than 90 tox

[timber sparrow]

sigh

[ivory snow]

peak participation

[opal leaf]

XDDD

[ivory snow]

bro do not want help

[timber sparrow]

wtf are you on about

[ivory snow]

sonded like you were disapointed by his help and just gave up 😂

[fierce lark]

there’s not much else to say, the build is correct but your stuff isn’t ranked up, rank 1 flare does 1/3rd as much as rank 5

[timber sparrow]

i get it

its just that maxing an arcane is a chore

[fierce lark]

mods being left at 7-8 isn’t the biggest deal, but you need to max your arcanes

if you have a rank 5 secondary deadhead or merciless, use that instead

[timber sparrow]

rank 4 merciless

[ivory snow]

doesn't cascadia flare come from void cascade ?

[fierce lark]

i see you have 424 plat, you could buy a max ranked flare for 30

[ivory snow]

i could give you like 16 cascadia flare i you want

[fierce lark]

it can drop from any thrax in any zariman mission and it’s purchasable with holdfast standing

[ivory snow]

yea easy to get

[timber sparrow]

real?

hold on

[ivory snow]

yea i already have a max lvl

[bold warren]

Can I see how to build Hate, Stalker’s Melee please?

[timber sparrow]

i should try building melees at some point

[ivory snow]

tell ñe if you need help

[fierce lark]

hate is just generic 12x light melee build but with augment + afflictions instead of electric influence

[opal leaf]

Is burning hate a must mod?

[timber sparrow]

🤔

i will go try it now

im always poor on endo so my mods are never maxed i think i have 1 galvanized mod maxed

[fierce lark]

nah you can run reach instead

[timber sparrow]

nvm i dont even

oh wait i do yes chamber

[fierce lark]

or primed pp

[ivory snow]

cause ive been playing melee nearly exclusively for like 900 hours

[timber sparrow]

YAYYYY

[bold warren]

Oh Joy.

[fierce lark]

most melees are built identically

[ivory snow]

you really need to adapt the build every time

[opal leaf]

Aight good to know

[opal leaf]

That's true too

[ivory snow]

look

[bold warren]

Sorry thats just so disheartening

[ivory snow]

most people are like

wtf do you need a rank one molten impact

[wary forge]

intersting build

[fierce lark]

im moreso confused why you're running a rank 1 molten impact instead of a rank 1 volcanic edge

[ivory snow]

cause my volcanis edge is maxed

[wary forge]

doesnt matter

[ivory snow]

and i dont want to get another one

[wary forge]

just run weeping wounds

[fierce lark]

you can mod things however you want, but in any game with modular weapons and builds, there's always gonna be a mathematically correct way to build things, as far as weapons go

[wary forge]

why r u blastfluence

just go normal influence no incarnon if ur gonna build hate like that

if ur using the incarnon why would u go a build like this

[ivory snow]

i play with voruna

[fierce lark]

incarnoff is kinda aids, you have to not use tennokai

[ivory snow]

i get like around 3 milion per light attack

[fierce lark]

atp you're just using a bad scythe lol

[wary forge]

its useable incarnoff with iflunece but ye

[bold warren]

WHY IS BURNING HATE 200 PLATINUM

[wary forge]

just go a normal build its just gonna be better

[ivory snow]

no

[fierce lark]

i don't remember the last time burning hate was even buyable, but it's not enecessary

[ivory snow]

bro

[fierce lark]

whether you're doing shock influence or just 12x afflictions, it'll work fine without the aug

[timber sparrow]

okay yup its better now LOL thanks

[ivory snow]

ive been perfectioning the SAME build for hundreds of hours

[wary forge]

that build sucks

[ivory snow]

mmhhh

[wary forge]

any melee can do 3 mill a light attack with influence thats not that insane

[ivory snow]

let me give you the full

nah its not max

its most of the time

[wary forge]

it jsut doesnt matter

that build is terrible

[ivory snow]

max i ever got on light was like 30 million

yea by itself its bad

[wary forge]

its just bad in general

[fierce lark]

i did a 300m tennokai heavy on kullervo with an unfinished innodem once

[ivory snow]

but with the specific build i play its good

[daring summit]

how is this putting heat status on? without that, burning hate seems useless

[fierce lark]

the incarnon form shoots fireballs on light attack

[ivory snow]

with diriga machin gun arc coil

[fierce lark]

they are innate heat and nothing else

[daring summit]

gross.....i love it

[fierce lark]

thats why you can't really mod the weapon with electric influence - it turns those fireballs into radiation

[ivory snow]

no you can actually change it

with blast

it combines

[fierce lark]

i didn't say they were unmoddable or non-combining, i said they were innate heat

[ivory snow]

yea sorry

[fierce lark]

"and nothing else" meaning there is no other element like ips

[ivory snow]

its because of the nothing else

anyway

[daring summit]

does the sentinel weapon matter for diriga? or just stacking status types ?

[wary forge]

anyways u dont have weeping wounds and ur saying its a good build

u know weeping wounds is even better on voruna right

[bold warren]

Except that Mod costs 200 Platinum so guess I’m screwed

[ivory snow]

i dont really needs it 132 status chance is enough

[wary forge]

ah so 132% is better then 440% on an influnce build

makes sense

[ivory snow]

no kinda hybrid

i wanted to do high direct damage

while using influence

[wary forge]

.....

[ivory snow]

it works

[wary forge]

it can work doesnt mean its good

[ivory snow]

well having like nearly always around 80 percent damage of the group IS kinda good

you know what

ill share it with you

[fierce lark]

only the dmg types

[ivory snow]

and you will try it and see by yourself

[wary forge]

if u cant see it theres just no reason to even keep discusing

[fierce lark]

you run a burst laser prime/prisma or laser rifle prime, for the innate IPS + moddable 50% crit chance for tenacious bond, then mod magnetic/radiation/viral/heat on it

[ivory snow]

i just didn't want to go full on influence that doesn't my build is bad

[fierce lark]

so whenever diriga arc coils something it gets 8 statuses instantly

[wary forge]

if ur not building around influndce they why even go it

[fierce lark]

it may be fine, it's just worse than doing a more streamlined build, like there's a reason ppl don't run influence on hate without shock trooper

[fierce lark]

you really aren't, i'll say it again, the mod isn't necessary

[chrome badge]

why are ppl using influence on hate?

i think it benefits better with exposure or afflictions

[near vortex]

I think the only time you want to run influence hate is when you're playing Shock Trooper platform

[fierce lark]

it's always funny to see both sides of the influence circle jork

[forest pivot]

How exactly do the +Ability damage shards work with exalted weapons?

Are they additive or multiplicative to Pressure Point mods? And are they additive or multiplicative with other shards

Other ability damage shards* of different colors ofc

[astral tinsel]

additive with other sources of "ability damage", multiplicative with other multipliers

[wary forge]

crit dmg shards are always better

[forest pivot]

Thanks

[forest pivot]

Don't care

[wary forge]

so u dont care about doing the most dmg ok

[mighty flare]

they dont

[forest pivot]

Thanks Arby's

[violet silo]

if I put nira’s anguish on a whip and use an exalted weapon, I’ll still get that +150% slam dmg, right?

[earnest saddle]

no, only for the whip

[spice willow]

Is Lavos good? He seems he would be good, and would he be better than zephyr in terms of weapon platform?

[bold estuary]

lavos has an amazing kit and one of the best augments in the game with valance formation so id say so

[unkempt rivet]

Hoooowww
Does one build the Kuva Drakgoon?

[rocky mason]

You don't

You steal it from a kuva lich

[sudden whale]

it builds you

[unkempt rivet]

I meant mod wise

[rocky mason]

Actually decent question hmmmmmm

I imagine corrosive blast should be good but I haven't tested

I mean, after the basics

Base damage, crit chance, crit damage, multishot

[opal leaf]

Boom

More boom

And Multishot and Boom more and Booming it more

[hollow scarab]

are there any whips that can actually deal damage and are good? i have the verdilac and the oraxia one but idk which one is better or how to build them to actually deal damage on light attacks

[wary forge]

ye its really just verdiac

[hollow scarab]

ok how should i build it to actually deal damage?

[mighty flare]

influence

[hollow scarab]

cuz i wanna run one on my sp nyx

this is my verdiac and i know its trash cuz gas thats why im tryna fix it

[wary forge]

its forced electric on the slam

or it does eletric dmg or whatever

[mighty flare]

larper made me look

[wary forge]

i dont think its forced actually just does eletric damage

its got pretty buns crit dmg u really needs shards or to use WA

why we reacting like that

[mighty flare]

what is that

[wary forge]

the verd

[hollow scarab]

noted

[mighty flare]

buns build dont cook

[wary forge]

how is it buns

[slender vine]

I cant decide which build is better for Ash, Savage Silence or Wrathful Advance

[wary forge]

if u think its buns ur a burger i mean i guess galv steel is prob better then sac

[spice willow]

is lavos good? someone said he's good, but i want to know from more that 1 person

[wary forge]

u can reply with somethin actual rather then emojis follie guy

[wary forge]

yes hes good

[slender vine]

Thats not the question

Yes he is good, but its a matter if you can adapt to his playstyle

[wild rune]

Lavos is very good, but his playstyle can be annoying to lock down, as it requires a lot of carpal tunnel inducing hand motions if you're not used to it

[fresh hollow]

good night, i have a nautilus prime but recently got helminth kubrow and wanted to know if its worth using orokin reactor on it

[wild rune]

I sure do love warping the skeleton in my hand to make an infused catalyze while still holding forward 💀

[hollow scarab]

so this is gonna make it actually deal damage with combos and not just do jack?

[violet silo]

dammit

[mighty flare]

you larp too much its impressive

[violet silo]

welp one less mod I have to farm

[wary forge]

idk even know who u r lol

[wary forge]

yes 🙂

[violet silo]

what are we larping abt

[wary forge]

hes just jelly that hes not as cool as me

[deep grotto]

what would be the noticeable stat differences between Braton Vandal and Prime?

[wary forge]

go prime

[edgy urchin]

idk which to pick

[wary forge]

cc on weapon with 5%

[spice willow]

how does he use lots of carpel tunnel inducing motions?

[deep grotto]

I wanna identify if it's worth it for a friend of mine to swap from his prime to Vandal
if it helps he does indeed enjoy crits

[wary forge]

just stick with the prime if u got it

[deep grotto]

fair

[wary forge]

its 10% more status its just better

[deep grotto]

he's already 6 forma'd his prime so

[brittle iron]

is my follie build good

i run 2 green archons and 3 reds too

[wary forge]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051

[wild rune]

Without rebinding keys, he uses 1-2-3-4 more than one uses WASD to move, because holding one or two keys imbues his next ability with an element based on the inputs.
He wants to stack as many elements as possible on a room of enemies before he clicks his 4, resulting in a room nuke. It's this constant imbuing with held inputs that make it really difficult to play him without rebinding his abilities to something a bit more comfortable, as it strains the hell out of one's left hand

it's like playing Twister with your left hand

[spice willow]

cant you js turn on invert tap/hold

[brittle iron]

also is my acceltra good

[wary forge]

hunter munitions

[abstract schooner]

Hi, anyone has a valkitty or voruna prime (ulfrun's) build?
i have a voruna build atm but i feel like i am lacking something for some reason

[slender vine]

I got a Valkyr build

[slender vine]

Dont use both Merciless and Serration at the same time

[brittle iron]

ok thanks

[wild rune]

Doesn't really solve the core issue of bending your hand in ways that it typically doesn't, since you'll still have to hold to cast the ability

It'll help, but it won't eliminate it

[slender vine]

Sec I will fetch it, been trying some helminths on her, how far are you in the game?

[abstract schooner]

pretty much everything done and subsumed a few frames besides kullervo/oraxia

[brittle iron]

think il run primary overcharge instead

[slender vine]

I have Lycanth subsumed on her but its meh, I recommand Silence

Also Influence is dog shit on her, if you really want AoE just use her 1 or you can use no helminth and use her Paralysis augment but that requires you to build some range

[main steppe]

how does arcane fury + valkyr passive interact ?

[slender vine]

Make sure to fulfill the condition for it, that's all

[brittle iron]

its pretty easy to

not much of a problem

[slender vine]

You dont need it TBH

[main steppe]

but how do they intneract

[burnt vapor]

Does Arcane Velocity reset Everytime you hit a crit?

Or does it go on cool down?

[slender vine]

Oh also if you have the 60/60 mods they are better for the status chance they provide

[slender vine]

I think it refresh

[wild rune]

Resets

[abstract schooner]

hmm gonna try the build, cause the one i was setting up was triple umbra and helath tank :D

[burnt vapor]

Perfect 😄
Ty

[slender vine]

I didnt use her for level cap but for lv 200 mission I dont remember ever dying, and I always use her for the 99 calender
With Melee Fortification you will always be having like 15-20 stacks, which is A LOT of armor

If you end up using Sielence that would be yet another layer of protection
and it also solves her biggest weakness which is the Silencer Acolyte

[abstract schooner]

alrighty, cause the only builds i ever got so far are all umbra based :c
but this might change andstop my struggle to build her as i am missing an umbra form XD

so toss out nourish (which got recommended a lot) for silence, can be done

[slender vine]

Oh another thing, the build is just 2 Formas, I added the 3rd when I was testing

[slender vine]

Not a fan of Nourish personally
I use 1 Tau Yellow shard for 35% starting energy and 4 Purples

[abstract schooner]

yeah am not mr 30 yet for the 78 capacity so probs an extra forma :D
but i've got a load of those so it do be ok

[slender vine]

I am not either xd

Another thing
Eternal War is pure QoL and you can drop it for Stretch or anything else you fancy

[abstract schooner]

gonna keep eternal war on it, cause i know i will forget to recast it

[slender vine]

You said you dont have Wrathful Advance, right?

[abstract schooner]

sadly not, don't have him yet :D
i get bored way too quickly trying to farm his materials (and pieces with that)

[slender vine]

Yeah no biggie, Valkyr specifically doesnt need it as she already hits red crits, it just make them tier 3
Also I got the same resaults with using Fire Walker + Arcane Hot Shot, but again its so extra and not needed
IMO Silence is the best sunsume from my experience

[abstract schooner]

aight, going to use silence for the time being and see how it rolls

certainly not me just vibing in the game, no clue how to build something but still liking the game a lot

and in terms of companion? cause i just got a panzer with me right now

[slender vine]

Yeah I use a Panzer for my melle frames

There is a neat interaction between Tandem and Seismic Bond

Also Pack Leader makes it kinda immortal

[abstract schooner]

well, seems like i have neither of these XD

i do have pack leader tho

[wraith sinew]

Just got me a zephyr, will phantasma with debilitate work well with tornadoes?

Fashion also

[slender vine]

They are not necessary, just provide faster combo generation, I think you buy them in Fortuna

[fierce lark]

it'll probably work fine, tornadoes would be carrying pretty hard though, debilitate sucks

[sturdy vault]

stalhta, quellor, or vadayra?

[hollow scarab]

any input? im tryna make this better

[fresh solstice]

Anyone has a good nova prime build?

[barren birch]

hey so I got reccomended xata's whisper for a nezha build, but would it make more sense to use roar?

it's for the guilty but just wanted to check

[crisp pine]

does anyone have any suggestion for gara i have no idea how to build her

she runs out of energy a lot and her kill range is miedorce

[hollow scarab]

ok nvm. imma just use the lex incarnon. is there a way to improve this tho?

[potent egret]

Is there a good early game build for lavos to help get me to steel path

[gray quarry]

Swap galv shot for hornet strike and pistol pestilence for the 90 tox

[crisp pine]

why is splinter storm so short range O_O

[gray quarry]

Idk

[rocky mason]

Get the valence formation augment and duration

That's it that's the whole build

[crisp pine]

what mods you have for suriviabilty?

[hollow scarab]

noted

[gray quarry]

Build shield recharge, i can toss my build

[hollow scarab]

keep cold or no

for viral or is my pet enough for that

[gray quarry]

I’m unsure the transmutation probe augment does anything tbh, can’t tell a difference but use it if you want otherwise go vigilante vigor for very fast shield regen or run an augment

[gray quarry]

Keep cold

[rocky mason]

Where's valence formation

[gray quarry]

This is my build, swap riv for 90 tox, arcane is fortifier

[barren birch]

hey would it be better to go 250% range via stretch on Nezha divine spear, or go 235% and get the 80% energy as shield through augur

[gray quarry]

I did say can use any augment over the transmutation probe augment. I just focused more on not dying

[hollow scarab]

fort and not flare? why?

[rocky mason]

I'd say stretch

[hollow scarab]

dont you need the extra damage for everyone?

[gray quarry]

Plenty of damage is already on the gun

[hollow scarab]

ic

[gray quarry]

I don’t need more damage, besides flare is kinda mid. I’d rsther deal with eximus units much easier

[barren birch]

any particular reason why or just "range go brrr"

[gray quarry]

More range, more death

[barren birch]

well that's range go brr so lol

[rocky mason]

Because you said 80 so that means you're already using some augur things, and nezha doesn't really need that much survivability on the build