builds-discussion

[green gyro]

what is chakram doing

[fickle whale]

heat, dmg vulnerability and booting incoming dmg even further together with xata

[cinder isle]

Is it bad if a Smeeta Kavat looks like a Vasca Kavat?

[green gyro]

I don't think there's much point playing nezha if you subsume over 4

but sure ig

[fickle whale]

depends on the mission. As said if you play disruption you wanna kill demos fast. Demos cant be stagerd so no need for the fourth

[green gyro]

if you play disruption you also have to kill trash

[fickle whale]

akarius/ogris

[green gyro]

this is basically just a xatas platform

[green gyro]

ogris is not killing trash at levelcap on nezha

like you could replace this build with basically any other frame and it would be basically the same

[fickle whale]

yes it does👀 If you play his second ability on them or run duo

[magic crescent]

I should clear up the fact i wanted a divine retribution build, i wasn't trying to cause a debate (╥﹏╥)

[green gyro]

which is fine, I don't think that's what the person was asking for tho

because it's removing the thing that makes him interesting

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1331275860011126784/1424284019880755250/IMG_5449.jpg?ex=69dbe61c&is=69da949c&hm=e684db11813f74adfb7434393ffeac5855cd7a0ae3f15d1301d471a70bca1e4f&

[fickle whale]

depends on your playstyle + there are always more options for a frame then playing one ability

[green gyro]

your playstyle with this build is literally just shooting demolysts after pressing 2

if someone asks for a volt build it doesn't make sense to send them a super specialized profit taker build for example

[brittle sleet]

Noticeable gap in damage numbers but you will be able to jack everything up with both builds just fine. If you want comfort and/or maximization of incarnon uptime do MS, if you want the satisfaction from huge numbers responding to skillful shooting do acuity

Replying to this

[fickle whale]

absolutly👍

[green gyro]

only reason to run acuity imo is stackless performance

you don't need to stack galv chamber

[brittle sleet]

Also depends if you wanna focus high resistance targets like, say, demos

[sonic folio]

Im trying to build it spesifically for bosses

[brittle sleet]

Mowing down crowds you're better off with MS

[magic crescent]

Do i need the weapons?

[green gyro]

no, i would recommend coda mire tho

furis is the highest damage option

but you need incarnon

[wary forge]

60/60 heat over riven for furis btw

Not sure if that was mentioned but ye

[solar reef]

understatement

[fierce lark]

acuity burston is mostly better for if you want incarnoff to also 1tap random enemies on headshots

because it will do that

[hard sparrow]

This red crit build is very silly

[wary forge]

atp just use kuva hek 🤷‍♂️

[hard sparrow]

It just blows peoples heads shmoove off

[fierce lark]

it does also get you higher tier crits if your goal is ❗️❗️❗️

with no mag mods, burston gets to shoot 15 times between reloads, hek gets to shoot 4

these are not the same

[wary forge]

Acuity on a 600 round machine gun seems likes it’s good

[hard sparrow]

1 million dmg red crits is very funny

[hard sparrow]

Burston incarnon is so unbelievably strong it hilarious

[wary forge]

That was sarcasm but yes

[fierce lark]

1mil+ crits on unprimed unstripped armorcapped grineer in incarnoff

[hard sparrow]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[wary forge]

Just use kuva chakur then

If that’s what u want a primary to do

[fierce lark]

or don’t and say you did, works just as well

[fresh hollow]

is the scythe "hate" worth to invest on for steel path?

[wary forge]

Yes

[hard sparrow]

It has an Incarnon so it’s inherently good

[fresh hollow]

oh, ok thanks

[wary forge]

This upcoming week is hate incarnon

[fresh hollow]

oh, incarnon changes per week?

[glossy briar]

yes

[hard sparrow]

You have to do steelpath Duviri and you can choose two incarnons to get that week

Hate will be one of them

[wary forge]

In like 30 hours it’s gonna be hate incarnon

[fresh hollow]

so its not obtained like innoden who is easily purchased

good to know, thanks

[wary forge]

You can buy the incarnon genesis for 120p from cavaliero

[hard sparrow]

I mean it’s not that hard to get

[wary forge]

I’d rather watch paint dry then play circuit

[solar reef]

Its one of the best heavy spam weapons in the game and its also incredible for hybrid/tennokai builds

Its incarnon will be available starting tomorrow night

[wary forge]

It’s better incarnon off with influence

[frosty bone]

Is the smeeta kavat not good for loot anymore?

[wary forge]

It’s not

Chesa kubrow the best

But it’s not that much better then just running retirver on ur pet

[frosty bone]

Chesa k

You mean prosperous retriever right?

[fierce lark]

resourceful retriever

prosperous is for credit farming

[frosty bone]

Ah I don't have that.

[frosty bone]

Would loyal be better?

[wary forge]

Nope

You get more value from 18% of one thing then 13% of 2 basically

[frosty bone]

Why's that? It does the effects of both prosperous and resourceful

Oh I didn't notice it was 13 vs 18

[wary forge]

Sahasa kubrow can dig up mods and stuff as well it’s not that consistent tho

But it has the added benefit of giving you energy health orbs and ammo

[frosty bone]

So none of the revivified ones from son have specific loot precepts?

[wary forge]

Nah just Chesa

[frosty bone]

Darn

[wary forge]

The Deimos ones can use retriver so just use them

[frosty bone]

I wonder how much chesa codes are

[fierce lark]

10p

[thorn kiln]

what's the best build for nidus?

[wary forge]

Imprints aren’t that much like 10p

[knotty halo]

Is this a good unlock roll?

[wary forge]

Doesn’t have a negative so no

[wary forge]

When I get home from work I don’t mind u giving my imprints

I have a chunky one

[frosty bone]

Oh cool!

I don't see the resourful retriever mod in sons inventory

[woven perch]

Ok I got one how I use it

[frosty bone]

Oh NVM there it is

[gleaming vapor]

there’s a button somewhere in the arsenal like “insert orokin reactor/cayalyst”

do that

[spring estuary]

whats the best Globe build for frost prime?

[wary forge]

Just range

[woven perch]

Do you have to be a certain lvl to use them or no

[fierce lark]

no

[wintry scaffold]

Anyone have bubonico build to share? I like the weapon but idk what to build it with.

[hard sparrow]

Should I just use spec serration when using Loki on my Burston?

[brittle sleet]

Ye

[fierce lark]

primary should always have spectral serration if you're playing loki

that reminds me i need to fix my bramma

[split mango]

You fellers got a follie build

[mighty flare]

Examples in: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051

[split mango]

thanks chief

[queen sandal]

VORUNA GUIDE:D #1492606866482794601

[solar reef]

not really

[woven perch]

Should I use it on rhino or nekros

[frosty bone]

With all 4 of the strain set does the helminth charger get kinda broken?

[coral crest]

Only if you really want the health

And/or do the maggotmaxxing build

[viscid bane]

How does punch trough interact with stuff that explodes on contact? Like zarr cannon or tonkor grenades for example?

[frosty bone]

It gets up to 320% bonus damage with the full set
Not to mention the crit damage, corrosive damage, etc

[coral crest]

It depends. Most pierce through the enemy and only then explode upon landing. A lot of projectiles just have pt locked

Can really ruin some weapons

Komorex dies from PT

[coral crest]

Oh fair enough

I'm too hound brained, sorry

[frosty bone]

The crit damage is for your melee weapon btw
+160% crit damage on your melees

[fierce lark]

on weapons that are projectile aoe or entirely aoe, im pretty sure it does nothing

[coral crest]

Yeah, the explosive projectiles are mostly locked

...I think

[fierce lark]

on hitscan aoe the bullet will do its radial damage on first contact and then continue through and do its base damage to targets as normal

[coral crest]

That's not always the case

[fierce lark]

burston Incarnon says pt is locked to 0 but it’s wrong

[coral crest]

Some pierce and only then explode

[fierce lark]

same with the opticor

idk about others

[gleaming vapor]

rhino prolly

[coral crest]

Komorex is the example

Its an aoe sniper

But explosion triggers at the end of PT

Enemies don't trigger it, so installing cannonade sucks

[gusty grove]

Does anyone have a soma incarnon build?

[wary forge]

Helmith charger is just pretty mid since it can’t use the mecha mods

Really only useable on some melee based frames who use persistence

But even then it’s just like cope just use a hound 🤷‍♂️

[wary forge]

Don’t use the incarnon just use the normal soma

[gusty grove]

Why not?

[rich glacier]

It is worse than normal. Snow fire rate

If you use crux like me you also lose the ammo efficiency

[gusty grove]

Damn

[frosty bone]

Basically use evolutions that benefit the normal mode

[wary forge]

Yep

Soma is still pretty good tho

[gusty grove]

Yeah that’s the main reason I’m getting it

[left bobcat]

Anyone know a good gara build?

[copper patio]

Does anyone want a free blind rage r0? I got it duped

[rich glacier]

What do you mean duped?

[copper patio]

I have 1 mine and one extra

Im giving for free the other one

[left bobcat]

Can I have it?

[copper patio]

Sure

[rich glacier]

I'm LR3 don't need it

[copper patio]

My id is alonso458537

[left bobcat]

Alright

Ngl idk what to do🥲

[copper patio]

Just in gamechat use /w and my id

Youll send me a message

[left bobcat]

Sorry but I’m still a bit confused

[copper patio]

Whats your id

[left bobcat]

Lxck2Nice I#098

[copper patio]

@left bobcat take the plat away

Just give me some trash

[left bobcat]

Tysm

[copper patio]

You're welcome

[cobalt token]

So idk if this is a good idea for a build. I put energy channel since im using chroma as an energy tank and weapons platform. And Melee duplicate since ive only reached yellow crits

[primal tangle]

wich incarnons should i choose

[sand cedar]

does any one have a good acceltra prime build, ive been struggling lol

[jovial flax]

hey gang, should i get rid of adaptation?

[wary forge]

Burston or nami solo

[slate vale]

Vastink and snack & brunt fr

[wary forge]

Yes

[limpid belfry]

Streamline or Energy Nexus on Dante?

or neither and put there something else

[violet silo]

burston and nami

[mild prism]

Is heavy slam effected by “killing blow” mod?

[gray quarry]

Burstons incarnon makes it go from burston to fullauton

[jovial flax]

do you have equlibrium?

[slate vale]

Smh no whimsy

[limpid belfry]

yes, but it doesn't fit, lemme try the build without streamline and see how the energy situation goes

[solar reef]

equillibrium is just the best energy econ mod in general

the reason being this

[limpid belfry]

true, sometiems even better than Energize

[violet silo]

meh
im not running energize and wasting an arcane slot

[limpid belfry]

i barely do too, but with a spammer frame, it's kinda needed

Protea, Mag i do spam a lot

[jovial flax]

i just run arcane concentration because your 4 will almost always proc it, like you dont need that much duration. but im lazy and a 80s buff helps with energy economy

[limpid belfry]

my Noctua fires really fast, so it drains a lil more

[jovial flax]

but also i just run a summoner build w/ roar so my whole gameplay plan is to stand there and do nothing

[limpid belfry]

turn off brain build

[gray quarry]

Some abilities and passives too(novas passive, vorunas 3, follies passive, etc)

[limpid belfry]

Citrine's 1 but i changed that with Voruna's

[primal tangle]

why do i not have chipper in my drifters camp?

[limpid belfry]

Voruna's subsume works really good in Citrine's kit

and it can be infinite

[gray quarry]

It works well on valkyrs kit, atleast the melee orb generation part

[jovial flax]

if u run electrc status on noctua and if wordwarden procs it i believe it activates archon stretch

[limpid belfry]

both abilities drop health/energy, but the other one is spam and the other is infinite duration

[jovial flax]

so u get a lil more energy sustain

[gray quarry]

Noctua is a channeled so as it would work, archon stretch would have no effect

[limpid belfry]

does Hot Shot proc with exalteds tho?

iirc yes, why won't Archons shards tho

[wary forge]

Everything is better the energize

[limpid belfry]

i use it on a few frames

[wary forge]

You should consider otherwise

[limpid belfry]

i mean i could try the build without it and see how it goes

[wary forge]

If u have equilibrium or shards it should go even better

[bold estuary]

Yeah mesa players use and abuse it for red crits

[limpid belfry]

i do but i rather waste an arcane slot than a mod slot tbh

[gray quarry]

I used it on a few frames, I think mirage was the main one. I’ve stopped with that cause I sold it as I wasn’t using the frames it was on

[limpid belfry]

so weird seeing Energize cost what? like bellow 100p? it was 1500p my time

[wary forge]

A lot of times u can drop a mod and get an equal if not better option in your arcane slot

[gray quarry]

It’s around 100

[limpid belfry]

that's so sad

[jovial flax]

you can see it tick up in the corner

[limpid belfry]

what is the most expensive arcane rn?

[bold estuary]

Hot shot

[limpid belfry]

makes sense

[bold estuary]

No doubt it’s like 500 ish rn

[limpid belfry]

i sold Reaper for like 337p

worth it, since i wasn't using it at all

[gray quarry]

Discord bein stupid, just a sec

[bold estuary]

It’d be hot shot or one of the duvuri arcanes

[limpid belfry]

it's sad that the older stuff is just being powercrept

[jovial flax]

probably the three arcanes from eta methinks

[limpid belfry]

Fury still holds up i would say

Velocity, Augmented

[bold estuary]

It’s not really being powercrept energize is cheap because they basically handed everyone a free R5 when Uriel released

[limpid belfry]

exactly

[bold estuary]

Hot shot is the only one people actually really want universal fallouts good but it’s like 200-250 and no one buys escapist

[limpid belfry]

Escapist is really niche

[jovial flax]

yeah i just had a look at it and that checks out

[limpid belfry]

Fallout isn't bad

[gray quarry]

Huh, it does give the energy regen. I thought it worked like other channeled abilities(also it triggering doesn’t mean anything)

[jovial flax]

lmao it almost feels wrong that escapist and hotshot r from the same vendor with the same amount of currency

its channeled but it only deducts energy per shot

[bold estuary]

Fallouts very good it’s just not damage so people price it lower than hot shot

[limpid belfry]

and Escapist being legendary

[jovial flax]

and not continuously

[jovial flax]

the energy bar slowly ticks up in the right corner

[bold estuary]

I dunno why that shits legendary lowkey

Enervate reads more like a legendary than this thing😭

[gray quarry]

I saw it tick up

[limpid belfry]

that and Flare

what about Shiver, why is Shiver so low

and being legendary too

[jovial flax]

i cant even remember what shiver does

[wary forge]

Cause it’s bad

[limpid belfry]

% more damage based on how many cold procs an enemy has

something like that

[bold estuary]

Heat is just better than cold so even less damage % with flare is more damage

[limpid belfry]

exactly but could work with Frost tho

[wary forge]

Just use a primary with primary forstbite

[limpid belfry]

well Flare is 480% at max and Shiver is 450% at max

equal basically

but both proc differently

[wary forge]

Secondaries can get way more heat damage cause primed heated charge

There the main thing

[limpid belfry]

ye

ig when someone likes cold more than heat

[potent flint]

Hey there, can someone share a dual toxocyst incarnon build? Time to try those beasts

[limpid belfry]

With Flare arcane

i forgor the whole name

Cascadia Flare?

[gray quarry]

Ye

[limpid belfry]

that riven is multishot and damage i think

[wary forge]

Gunslinger is worse then torrent

[limpid belfry]

i have 2 multishot mods, i don't think i need more multishot lmao

i wanna go brrr

[wary forge]

Doesn’t need to go toxin 60/60 with Eltric and the dual TOX passive it’s corrosive

[limpid belfry]

oh? so i could have both viral and corrosive?

[wary forge]

Wasted mods just build it pure corrosive

[limpid belfry]

the build is already broken as is, can't be even more

[limpid belfry]

ig it can

[wary forge]

I mean it’s dual TOX it can kill everything in the game with 6 mods but that build is pretty mid tbh

[limpid belfry]

lemme adjust

when i modded for viral, there is only viral with no corrosive

[gray quarry]

Was viral the only thing modded?

[limpid belfry]

viral and heat

[gray quarry]

What was the weight

[limpid belfry]

idk what weight is

[graceful pollen]

I swapped corrosive projection with brief respite because it fits my playstyle, is there anything else I should do to make it better

[limpid belfry]

what frame?

[graceful pollen]

oh, uriel

[brazen surge]

does anyone know of a good silva and aegis prime build

[gray quarry]

Should’ve been more heat procs than virak

[limpid belfry]

should i remove scorch?

and add like gal shot?

[gray quarry]

Actually, wait what in the heck is your build. 4 element mods

[wary forge]

Yes

[gray quarry]

What’s on the riv

[limpid belfry]

mult and damage

[wary forge]

Then why do u have hornet

[limpid belfry]

i mean it shreds still

idk more damage?

[gray quarry]

What’s the stats(the %s of both)

[gray quarry]

Why run hornet strike

[wary forge]

Hornet and flare

[opal leaf]

That's a good ass riven

[limpid belfry]

still the same answer lmao

[gray quarry]

I gotta know now, what evos do you run

[opal leaf]

It's to the point of EVOS XDDD

[gray quarry]

There are right answers and wrong answers(actually idk I haven’t used dual tox in forever)

[wary forge]

Riven over crosshairs

[limpid belfry]

lemme see
70% on headshot, reload speed, 60+ damage + 33% direct damage per status type

i think i did this build once and never touched it again

cuz it was broken, so why would i care

[graceful pollen]

can i swap transient fortitude for anything @limpid belfry

[limpid belfry]

archon intensify tbh

[graceful pollen]

would it be worth it

[gray quarry]

Alr, personal preference is the -recoil evo but that’s personal preference

[limpid belfry]

mhm

[versed harbor]

what frame is it

[graceful pollen]

uriel

[wary forge]

Fevered strike marks man hand commonders fortune only evos u should ever go

[limpid belfry]

i mean i could add cc and make it hybrid too

[graceful pollen]

so trans fortitude out with archon intensify just adds more strength?

[limpid belfry]

yes, archon intensify is useless on him tbh

[graceful pollen]

is it worth losing the duration

[limpid belfry]

try it idk

[opal leaf]

Yes, and no

Yes if u want a quick kill

No if you want the 4 to linger more so that no one can reach you

[opal leaf]

Doesn't he proc Archon Intensify?

[graceful pollen]

thats what I thought

[limpid belfry]

only when he heals

health

if u are always healing health, then yea AI is better

[opal leaf]

Yes, it's not useless

It's mostly used even

Archon Vitality and Archon Intensify

They are in one build for most part

[brazen surge]

anyone got some melee recomendations that is fun and not like hugely meta

[limpid belfry]

Tenet Exeeec

and Wolf Sledge

both do nice dmg

[opal leaf]

Ghoulsaw

It can do decent damage and you can ride it as a Skateboard

[limpid belfry]

at least my does

[karmic slate]

im new to riven mods and what should i focus on dual ichor

[limpid belfry]

i changed the build, idk the damage feels the same to me

[limpid belfry]

depends what the weapon has more of, cc or sc

[karmic slate]

honestly nothing i havent build it yet and noticed i have a riven for it

[limpid belfry]

but definitely multishot, toxin, damage, sc/cc + cd
and - puncture, -impact

[karmic slate]

what is sc,cc and cd

[limpid belfry]

-zoom, +weapon recoil

[limpid belfry]

critical chance/critical damage
status chance

shortcuts basically

[karmic slate]

aha i see so focus on crit chance damag and status

[limpid belfry]

depends what the dual ichor has more of

it has incarnon right? u can basically choose

[brazen surge]

anyone got an acceltra prime build

[opal leaf]

I got one for ya

[karmic slate]

how bad is this

[frozen grail]

Im trying to think of some potential subsumes for gyre, I know pillage is a pretty widly reccomeded option but I was tryna consider other ideas outside of the normal pillage/nourish/roar

All of these would likely be over her 2 btw
Opinions on shock + shock trooper + her 1 and augment for 2 electric dmg on weapon abilities? Im not sure if this works the same as how oraxia/saryn/uriels elemental dmg boost works
Another idea was electric elemental ward to proc more electric status effects for crit + the bump to shields
The last one I saw was breach surge since I think the lightning on crit from her 4 procs surges

Any other reccomendations are welcome!!

[limpid belfry]

that is very very good

keep that if u want to go for cc/cd

well that is both lmaooo

[opal leaf]

Arcane is Primary Merciless

[karmic slate]

will the status duration be bad its on the negative or it doesnt matter

[brazen surge]

no galv aptitude?

[limpid belfry]

well if u kill enemies faster than the status going off, yea fine

[opal leaf]

Yeah, it just doesn't work

I mean even if it do, it's ass

[karmic slate]

ok i will keep it thx

[limpid belfry]

tbh adding abilites from Ember/Volt/Oberon/Xaku those 3 with the augment

if u want more dmg, also Harrow's instead of Pillage

actually Frost isn't on the list right?

with the augment for dmg

[opal leaf]

He has

Freeze Force is the name

[limpid belfry]

isn't his subsume like the ice wave?

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[limpid belfry]

and that has the augment?

[opal leaf]

It's ass tho

[opal leaf]

Oh nvm I thought in general

[limpid belfry]

nope just his 1st

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's his augment for his first skilk

[limpid belfry]

Ember and Oberon also fall into that category

[opal leaf]

Gives cold damage like volt's shock trooper

[limpid belfry]

Oberon's 1st is very good in general too

[opal leaf]

Smite?

[limpid belfry]

ye

[frozen grail]

I just listed some ones ive seen im not opposed to others though!
Completely forgot frosts ability had a dmg augment

[opal leaf]

Ya it's good

[limpid belfry]

it isn't his subsume tho

[opal leaf]

Ye

[frozen grail]

Ah alright, does +element weapon dmg things like shock trooper or Gyres 1 augment work like how oraxia/saryn/uriels element dmg buff do? Or is it different?

[limpid belfry]

additive iirc

just add some % to ur damage

ur damage + the ability

only Xaku's works differently

or also additive idk

[frozen grail]

Ah alright, thats how saryns works too correct? It always trips me up bc with saryn oraxia and uriel my ammo turns the color of the element where as with these effects it doesn't lol

[limpid belfry]

those 3 are different, also Saryn has 2 abilities which add damage

1st like Volt/Oberon etc.
3rd is idk

[frozen grail]

Ah alright good to know

[limpid belfry]

either multiplies, adds, or mixes in

Roar and Xaku's multiplies, the ones with the augment just add, and the rest no idea

[frozen grail]

Ahhh I see, so shock trooper is just like a weapon mod that says "+%electric damage" where roar and xakus is more like the faction mods where it takes ur end total and multiplies it
In that case how does saryns toxic lash work?

[limpid belfry]

it's always like less than 100% so ig it mixes in

[frozen grail]

Oh wait I think i slightly misread what u said about roar and xakus

[versed harbor]

toxic lash is like another added instance of dmg

[limpid belfry]

nvm added

[frozen grail]

Ahh alright interesting, I just know that her and oraxia are like known for giga buffing guns in weird ways and didnt know if it was from that but I have a feeling alot of it is more due to the additional effects they do on top of the dmg they add like the explosions kills make

[limpid belfry]

Cyte started with mixing elements into ammo

Oraxia and Uriel have it too

[fierce lark]

every augment that adds a buff to 1 for volt ember saryn frost etc is baseline 100% and they all scale with strength

so they are in fact very significant weapon buffs

[rich glacier]

They reworked elements into not mixing

[fierce lark]

also yeah afaik there isn’t a single frame ability weapon buff that mixes into elements

[limpid belfry]

they are like 300% or more depending on AS

very big damage

the 300% is based on what?

ur total?

[fierce lark]

it’s base 100% and scales with ability strength

whatever your frame’s strength is at the time of cast is the buff you’ll get

[rich glacier]

He means if it works like serration I think

[limpid belfry]

yes 100% base, but what is it based of?

[fierce lark]

oh no

for those specifically it’s elemental bonus

like imagine adding a mod that said “300% corrosive” for saryn

that’s how they behave

[frozen grail]

Gyres does but its because it specifically states "this mixes with weapon mods" aside from that they dont

[limpid belfry]

so if i do 100 dmg, i add 100 damage as like cold?

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure conductive spheres are a separate instance of elec with guaranteed status

they’re non-combining because they add separately similar to lash or xata’s

[limpid belfry]

exactly

[fierce lark]

if your base damage is 100, you’ll add 100 damage as cold

[frozen grail]

Wait I misread the augment I thought it said it mixed disregard that

[limpid belfry]

so basically doubling my damage with the added status, without cc/cd

[fierce lark]

if your base damage is 100 and you have primed cryo rounds and malignant force added, you’ll do 100 physical, 325 viral and 100 cold

[limpid belfry]

ohk

[fierce lark]

it’s just like if you added a 9th elemental mod that doesn’t combine with the rest of your mods

[limpid belfry]

right

[fierce lark]

and it calculates in all the same ways

[limpid belfry]

Gauss's 3rd with augment also works that way?

[fierce lark]

yep

[twin wharf]

is this a good hildryn build?

[limpid belfry]

yes

[limpid belfry]

actually switch Augmented with Velocity

[twin wharf]

thankkk you ive been investing a lot in her with this build

arcane velocity?

[limpid belfry]

yes

[fierce lark]

The frame build is good but i would suggest arcane velocity over one of the frame arcanes

[twin wharf]

for firerate?

[limpid belfry]

yes

more pew pew

[twin wharf]

gotcha okay thank youuu

[fierce lark]

the weapon is almost there but you should swap cold with elec to make corrosive heat

[limpid belfry]

or viral heat

[twin wharf]

ive also heard aegis arcane is good too what do u think?

[fierce lark]

you can’t make viral heat

they do base elec

[limpid belfry]

why not?

ohh right

[twin wharf]

then should i do corrosive heat?

[limpid belfry]

yes, but Expertise is way better

[fierce lark]

aegis is good on hildryn if you want an added layer of safety sure

corrosive heat gives you better damage typing, and lets you slot both primed elec and primed heat

[twin wharf]

right okay but enemies die too fast to play safe i think its unnecessarry

[limpid belfry]

exactly

[fierce lark]

viral isn’t a big deal, balefire doesn’t have good status chance to begin with

[twin wharf]

right okay ill do that thank youuu

[limpid belfry]

u could switch for Fortifier, if u want

[twin wharf]

so my viral is doing nothing?

[limpid belfry]

more safety, less dmg

[fierce lark]

balefire really wants enervate, fortifier is not advisable

[twin wharf]

gotcha

[twin wharf]

yea thats what most people tell me

[limpid belfry]

but with ur build i don't think it's necessary

[fierce lark]

you lose a lot of damage without enervate, the way it stacks on projectile aoe weapons makes it a lot stronger than intended

[twin wharf]

waitt so its a bug?

and it could get nerfed???

[limpid belfry]

kinda

[fierce lark]

not entirely sure

[limpid belfry]

but Hildryn is very busted rn, i really think she is gonna get nerfed tbh

[twin wharf]

nooooooo but she isss so good tho

[limpid belfry]

it's Zarr and Bramma all over again

with infinite ammo and way more damage

[twin wharf]

why not rework loki instead

[limpid belfry]

they could do both

[twin wharf]

yeaa okayy sad times ahead

[limpid belfry]

when u have a Hildryn on ur team she is very disruptive, feels the same when Kuva Zarr/Bramma did that

also millions of damage

they also could nerf Magistar tbh, fixed slams but added one giant slam

[twin wharf]

yeaa i joined an ongoing archemedia and still got most damage and kills

[fierce lark]

so the way enervate stacks is every time you hit an enemy, it raises your crit chance by a flat 10% for every enemy hit. each shot (not each hit, each shot) that lands an orange or bigger crit, a counter goes up by 1. once it reaches 6, your crit bonus resets to 0

[twin wharf]

is it worth getting?

[limpid belfry]

yes

very

every incarnon is busted except like Gorgon

[fierce lark]

if you shoot once with enervate, and you hit 5 enemies, you gain 5 stacks of enervate’s crit chance. if one of those hits crits orange, your reset counter only goes up by 1

[twin wharf]

really and since aoe weapons hit multiple enemies its bsically criting all the time?

[limpid belfry]

that's why people have red crits with her

[fierce lark]

yes

[twin wharf]

thatss goin to be my next grind, ill pair it up with my kullervo

[limpid belfry]

oh no

[twin wharf]

wow that really is busted lol

[fierce lark]

also

since it’s a multi-projectile explosive weapon, your shot that resets it back to 0 will still keep critting like it had its previous crit chance, and will still contribute to stacking your next enervate stacks

[limpid belfry]

Magistar without Kullervo is already broken as is, i use Tenet Exec, same thing, but lesser radius

also fun

[twin wharf]

that sounds buged for aoe weapons but i think its majorly caused my primed fulmination more than anything else

[twin wharf]

realllyyy? i currently use the syam with kullervo basically giving melee inf range

[fierce lark]

the combination of aegis gale alt fire + enervate causes balefire to crit at extremely high rates that should not otherwise be possible

it’s likely a bug or an unintended behaviour regarding projectiles, but either way it’s a thing and has been since aegis gale came out

[limpid belfry]

Magistar has a giant aoe slam

[twin wharf]

righttt this sounds like it might get patched, damnn but she is really fun to play rn

[pastel prawn]

looking for some input for cedo prime build keep in mind i dont have any primed damage mods for shotguns riven is attached

[sonic folio]

Flawed ahh mod

[twin wharf]

interestingggg ill look into it and prolly get it

[limpid belfry]

anyways i'ma go bed, gn guys

[twin wharf]

gn mate thanks for helping me outtt

thank you @fierce lark for helping me out tooo

[fierce lark]

i doubt it will, it's been in the game for ages with no sign of being looked at

it's possible though, a lot of people regularly complain about hildryn ruining their games with big aoe (lol), and enervate causes some other weapons like the kuva nukor to do some pretty degenerate damage

[twin wharf]

lolll yeaaa i bett

[bold estuary]

im kinda lost on what to do with this thing due to my lack of mods it works but only because im abusing valance fusion/eclipse with lavos and mirage

[hollow aspen]

when are we getting galv archgun mods

[hard sparrow]

What exactly makes Voruna good?

[bold estuary]

Status spreading

Her 2 applies a ton of statues and her 4th just does a ton of damage once ramped up so you use your 1 and 3 prime something with your 2 kill said target with your 4 do it again till your 4th is at 10x and at that point it’ll one shot most sp enemies

[marsh mulch]

does anyone know a good excalibur umbra build?

[hard sparrow]

Chromatic blade build with adaptation and the furious javelin augment and just swing your exalted blade like a pool noodle and kill everything

[solar reef]

adaptation 🥀

[shell tundra]

Does Chroma love duration enough to justify using Narrow Minded and pummeling my range into the dirt?

[opal leaf]

Does Excalibur Umbra Benefits in Health tank?

[clear turret]

because of the umbra polarities, yes but if you forma over them then its better to shield gate

casue then hes just normal excalibur

[opal leaf]

I need a reference build for it

I have WA slotted in his... 2 or 3 something

Oh on his 2

[clear turret]

i dotn have a good umbra build but i do recommend the ones in this video, i used some of the mods (didnt have all of them) and it was pretty great
https://youtu.be/653Dk98GJug?si=DohSjNjWFhSqdfhN

[violet silo]

he’s not very good at it

[clear turret]

he talks about both normal and umbra versions and why umbra version need health tank instead of shield gate

[violet silo]

but you can force it

[opal leaf]

Most Excal builds are focused on his 4 but it's ok

[clear turret]

still better than his shield gating

[violet silo]

not really

[opal leaf]

How much can I brute forcw that bish

Or Excal is just.... Bad in general hahahah

[clear turret]

he is

needs most investment and one of the only frames that struggle in sp

[violet silo]

with like armor shards, mods, a subsume, and arcanes, you can produce an okay health tank

[opal leaf]

The poster boy of Warframe is having a hard time huh

Nah I won't let it slide hahaha

[opal leaf]

Psh back to Omamori hahahhhaha

But let's go Shield gate let's say, I have a WA on his 2

How can I buuld him around that

[violet silo]

“Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power” - valkyr, to inaros

[opal leaf]

Literally

[opal leaf]

That would be the same line for Harrow when it comes to gun buffing and shield gating without shield gating build hahahaha

[drifting hare]

Anyone got a good saryn build?

Like a nuker saryn

[edgy spindle]

Need a citrine nuke

[hollow scarab]

looking for a tigris prime build to use on my nekros. pref sp capable

[jade garden]

can anyone help em figure why my dmg is so inconsistent please. Much appreciated

[bold estuary]

Crepuscular and eclipse snap shooting is probably the reason

You jump up go invis throw the glaive break invis glaive hits before you go back invis no +3 crit multiplier

Then if you cast eclipse on the ground it’s 30% less ability strength even when invis because it’s a snapshot of your current stats

[past wave]

Is Sarofang Prime actually good with Voruna Prime?

[solar reef]

its ok

its a slam merchant

any heavy spam or slam focused weapon does great with her

[deep grotto]

hm idk which of these would be good to put on Thara

[hard sparrow]

Best way to deal with survivability for solo SP? I know of shield gating what are the best ways to make myself more self sustainable?

[steep abyss]

hildryn ability - subsume
ivara tech
shield gating
more damage - if you kill everything nothing can hurt you
wyrm prime - removes status effects and gives shield

arcane aegis + primed shield
or, you just hp tank

[hard sparrow]

How to do I set up shield gating?

[steep abyss]

uh, brief respite + augur mods

[hard sparrow]

Just any one augur mod?

[steep abyss]

mmm, 2 increase the effectiveness, so brief respite + 2 augur mods?

[steep abyss]

mmm, any further question?

[hard sparrow]

Nah

[opal leaf]

It's usually Brief Respite and Catalysing Shield, that's the active

Lazy Shield gating requires more
Fast Deflection, Vigilante Vigor and Catalysing shield

[opal leaf]

^

[steep abyss]

i don't get the appeal of cata- shields

[wet oasis]

just returned after 4 years, what arcanes etc should i grab ?

[opal leaf]

Tha normal shield gate has only 0.33 second (more or less) of invulnerability after the shield breaks

Cata increased that to 1.33, giving u more time to cast an another skill to refill ur shields

[opal leaf]

All

[opal leaf]

Pair this with Cast speed and u have an infinite shield cycling through the game

[wet oasis]

as helpful as that was, mind being more specific ?

[steep abyss]

so it's for QoL?

[opal leaf]

Yes

[steep abyss]

mk, that seems to explain why i never got the appeal, it doesn't seem neccessary to me

operator + normal shieldgating is plenty

[opal leaf]

Damage go Molt Augmented

Weapons mostly goes for Primary/Secondary Deadhead, and Merciless

For melee go melee influrncr

As these are the general that is usually been talked about and stuff

[opal leaf]

Understandable

It's just that less shields is able to refill ur shield that is able to support ur shield gate

There are frames where I don't use Cata but when I have the chance to do so, I dont use it

It's just preference in the end

[wet oasis]

I just picked up molt augmented, my friend told me grab molt efficiency or vigor is that a goo shout or is there something better for general use, obviously as i play different frames go for different builds ill try grab more but just need a strong starting point

[steep abyss]

cascadia flare is the strongest pistol arcane

[wet oasis]

cool, is that the same if im using it as a primer then ?

[steep abyss]

mh, seems fair, so far i prioritise 1.8k shield-ish and aegis

[steep abyss]

nope,

for priming

it's the one arcane that gives you another status effect on status proc

[wet oasis]

ok thank you very much guys

[opal leaf]

Cata, Fast Deflection, Vigilante Vigor, and Aegis will result to this hahahahha

[wet oasis]

feels like im starting fresh atm lol

[opal leaf]

It somehow activates it faster that's why I called it lazy shield gating

[opal leaf]

I wouldn't say strongest but it is one of the best arcanes out there

[odd lynx]

How can I improve my set up

[opal leaf]

Why radiation? Also on Burston... It seems like an MS build

Here is usually what I would go for an MS Build on burston

[odd lynx]

its js on there for status

[opal leaf]

Oh nah on Xaku you need range

Range is their most important build

Here is an example

Their 2, scales on range

[odd lynx]

my fist build lol

[opal leaf]

It's ok

Points to remember for Xaku is Range, Durstion and Strength

[opal leaf]

Wdym for status

[odd lynx]

kk

[odd lynx]

there isnt any radiation mod

oh nvm

[opal leaf]

There is but why radiation

[odd lynx]

idk honestly, most of my builds have it

[opal leaf]

Do the one guide I gave you

Burston doesn't need that much status

Viral is ok, since Burston does innate Heat on their incarnon

[odd lynx]

alr

[opal leaf]

There are arrows too for you to see

What to slot in the last slot

[odd lynx]

tysm

[opal leaf]

Sure thing tenno

[odd lynx]

do u know what i should do abt my kompressa or glaive

[opal leaf]

Glaive I haven't used and Kompressa still learning what they need.

So I haven't had their builds yet

Sorry tenno

[deep grotto]

tenn9

[odd lynx]

np

[toxic cypress]

anything i should do to improve this?

[celest moss]

What's the best dual swords? Is the Dual Zoren Prime? Dual Keres Prime?

[velvet pulsar]

Okina

[celest moss]

Aren't those dual daggers?

[velvet pulsar]

Nepheri ain't dual sword either

[opal leaf]

Does the Excal passive apply to Ichor?

[celest moss]

Huh, thought they were

[velvet pulsar]

You said Nepheri so I said Okina

[celest moss]

Okay ignore them then, dual swords

[velvet pulsar]

Both of u, Dual Ichor

[velvet pulsar]

Excal passive, yes

[velvet pulsar]

Dual Ichor

[opal leaf]

Ooo! HAH! Aight I'll brute force this bish

[rugged depot]

Give me build gauss prime forma 0

I mean forma 1

[opal leaf]

Damn didn't you died?

[rugged depot]

I am now just a wandering ghost.

[opal leaf]

Aight, guess you got in the warframe verse now hahaha

Here for Gauss

Mostly focus on durstion

[celest moss]

Thank you

[opal leaf]

Does that mean even Excal Umbra too right? Bc it says swords

So I'm worried about ichor

[velvet pulsar]

Umbra passive is completely different

[rugged depot]

Tysm

[velvet pulsar]

Wiki needs to improve then

[opal leaf]

While welding swords :/

[velvet pulsar]

Aight umbra works then

[opal leaf]

It doesn't do that in the actual?

[velvet pulsar]

IDK

[opal leaf]

I'm now confused with Umbra hahahaah

[opal leaf]

Alright let's just focus on ichor and the Excal passive

Does it work?

Aight thanks

[wary forge]

just go influence lowkey

[eternal prism]

Secret slash

[opal leaf]

Ay...

[novel bear]

Switch to heavy spam
Scythe fast attacks suck
Hate makes them work, but caustacyst doesn’t have hate’s advantages

Actually, why afflictions on fast attack?

[toxic cypress]

could something like this work?

[wary forge]

Last slot whatever

[shell tundra]

Can a non helminth subsume Voruna Prime survive in SP?

[opal leaf]

If the Base Voruna can, then a Prime can surely do

Its not in the prime, it's in the build

[wary forge]

ye

[shell tundra]

Follow up: can I work in SP if I want to use Voruna’s 4? I got both of her augments from Red Veil when I decided to pull the trigger on farming out Voruna Prime

[opal leaf]

Yes

[shell tundra]

Also, something that clarifies my lack of reading comprehension, I have a question about Voruna’s 4 and its augment. Let’s say that I outright kill the target, do I still replenish a charge or does it need to be a bleed kill?

[opal leaf]

Just kill

[shell tundra]

On jah? Fr fr? I looked at the wiki and my brain(or what’s left of it) don’t read good so I didn’t understand(an Ogryn probably has better reading skills than I do ;-;)

[opal leaf]

Due to the Slash procs

So apply Slash, and kill

[opal leaf]

Look at the bottom, you need to apply Slash and kill them

If they die due to Slash, it won't work

[river ruin]

is voruna prime access pack worth it on a fresh new player account or the frame need some investment (that new account does not have) to be decent?

[shell tundra]

Now I’m confused, doc, the wiki says that I can instagib a target and refund a charge, even if my UwU pounce doesn’t tag them for slash???

Sorry for rage baiting, I genuinely don’t mean it, I should probably go to bed and figure out how to read in the morning ;-;

[opal leaf]

I'll make it clesr, and talk in a simplest way possible

You, Apply slash, then, you Kill = Charge Restore

You, Apply Slash, then, you no kill, died because of Slash = Charge Restore

Teammate, apply Slash, then, you kill = no Charge

[shell tundra]

Okay, that makes a little sense, does Voruna’s 4 have a force proc for slash?

[velvet pulsar]

The 2nd point may not be accurate

[opal leaf]

Idk it's just from what inread

"they die due to Slash, no charge" (simplest way to translate)

[velvet pulsar]

"...dies... due to the slash procs from abilities"

[opal leaf]

But if I misinterpreted it, lmk

[velvet pulsar]

As long is voruna has applied slash from ability and enemy dies from that slash, charge is restored

[opal leaf]

Aight, let me change kt

[opal leaf]

@shell tundra i changed it, check again

[shell tundra]

So the part I’m still a bit confused about, the wiki says that if I instakill a target with my 4 I’ll refund a charge, but y’all are telling me that I need to paint a target with slash first? I’m trying to figure out how much I would need to go into her 4’s damage

[velvet pulsar]

Also take sleep anyway.

[velvet pulsar]

Direct kill from 4 still restores charge because it's a forced slash proc

Forced procs are guaranteed registered by the game even when u one-shot enemies

[shell tundra]

Okay, that makes sense, thank you so much for explaining it. My apologies if this whole conversation served to make people sound antagonistic, that genuinely wasn’t my intention

[velvet pulsar]

Although I'm not sure if the same applies to overguarded enemies

[shell tundra]

Now I need to figure out how Voruna’s other pieces of her kit work but that’s a problem for in the morning Tinhorn

[velvet pulsar]

There has been some kind of variation between regular enemies & overguarded enemies when it comes to one-shotting them

[shell tundra]

[patrick star taking notes gif]

[opal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[shell tundra]

I won’t lie, sometimes I mix up server media rules(HD2 discord is stickler-y about media rules in certain channels)

[vagrant whale]

I see these builds on incarnon melee weapons and see that they don't build for combo count so how do they maintain it?

[velvet pulsar]

Galv Reflex+ corrupt Charge I assume

[spiral chasm]

could use dex arcanes on primary and secondary

if u have a grav mag u can also slot them on ur heavy weapon iirc

[velvet pulsar]

Could also use rauta

[novel bear]

Quadruple dexterity is just infinite combo
It will never drop

[bold estuary]

if I subsume a lavo ability do I lose the element said ability has as well?

I wanna put roar/xata but if I lose one of the base elements I dont really want to

[novel bear]

Yes

[bold estuary]

[shy veldt]

Can i get help?

[bold estuary]

an update making it so interactions like this arent lost would be cool since uriel gets to keep his demons

[slate vale]

Its very good in fact

[shell tundra]

Okay, I should probably be asking this when I’m supposed to get up in about 4 and a half hours, but what stats should I prioritize on Voruna?

[west halo]

range and strength

[shell tundra]

Like overextended levels of range or,,?

[west halo]

yea

[shell tundra]

Also, are you able to roll while in Voruna’s 4? If so, is Arcane Circumvent an option?

[west halo]

overextended and archon stretch

[shell tundra]

If I may, why Archon Stretch? I vaguely know she has a status priming ability but I’m unsure of how that works(like most of the other stuff in her kit)

[west halo]

archon stretch give energy regen

if you want to save the capacity, can also use regular stretch

[west halo]

Im unsure if she can roll, let me check

[shell tundra]

That much I know, if I am to rephrase my question, does Voruna tag enough electricity procs to justify Archon Stretch?

[west halo]

yes

[shell tundra]

Ah, what does her energy economy look like? Do I need to put on Equilibrium + Dethcube w/ Duplex, Synth Deconstruct, Energy Generator?(yes I know it isn’t the mighty Diriga but I’m a sucker for prime stuff)

[west halo]

She can roll during 4, so arcane circumvent can work, but you shouldn't need that since you will always be invisible, but it is an option

[west halo]

I use equilibrium to synergize with her 3, and usually you use Arcane Impetus to help with more strength and efficiency as well

[shell tundra]

Okay, so I’m looking through the wiki and I have a question, do kills from Voruna’s 4 count towards her 3?

[west halo]

Yes, it counts as melee kill

[shell tundra]

Ah, so Equilibrium actually synergizes with her native kit and I’m not forced at dakka point to use Dethcube

[west halo]

after you cast 3 and 4(with augment), those will stay up most of the time so no need to recast those, you cast 1 and 2 often which doesnt cost much energy

but if you are having energy problem, might mean that you are not killing enemy fast enough considering she can wipe a group of enemies with her 4

[stoic olive]

any tips for building broken scepter?

[shell tundra]

I don’t know what issues I’m gonna run into with Voruna Prime lol, I only leveled her base to 30 and never touched her on the basis of how weird the animations for her 4 are on the base variant

[west halo]

it is weird that she doesnt run on 4 legs during her 4 in base but at least she does in prime

[shell tundra]

That’s the neat part, you don’t. Just level it to 30 and stuff it in the gimmick stick corner

[stoic olive]

i really like it a lot and its my second most used behind the war

i want to make it work

[shell tundra]

It also really doesn’t help that I leveled base Voruna shortly after she launched, so not only do I have zero idea how she works, even if I did know how she worked, my memory is too crap to remember the details

[west halo]

just try her out and then fix problem later, no need to stress out

[slate vale]

Yes but only direct kills. It won't count if the slash proc kills them or if the aoe kills them

[west halo]

slash from her 4 does count but not aoe slash

[shell tundra]

Voruna has an AOE? 🫪

[west halo]

Yes

[slate vale]

Lots of it

[shell tundra]

For those in the audience who know practically nothing about Voruna, how do I get this AOE? Is it for her not 4 augment?

I don’t remember what ability it’s for but I know that it isn’t the 4 augment

[slate vale]

At 190% range her 2 has a radius of 30m (huge) and her 4 has a range of 19m (still pretty large)

[shell tundra]

Isn’t her 2 her priming ability?

[slate vale]

It ticks damage to enemies in that radius, and it makes them vulnerable to take 2x damage from your next use of 4. This is indicated by a black smoke around the enemies

[slate vale]

Yes, but it spreads the statuses when that target dies. The range is referring to the spread. (It does have pretty respectable damage however)

[shell tundra]

Okay, I’m looking through the wiki and I think I’m beginning to somewhat understand a gameplay loop for her, cast 1 for invis, spam 2 on enemies for status, cast 3 and 4 and just keep spamming 2 for more duration on 3 and hope that her 4 can keep up?

[slate vale]

Kind of! You don't get any additional damage on 4 from spamming 2, its mostly just gambling for statuses at that point. Other than that you're pretty spot on!

[unreal shadow]

Do mire riven mods work on coda mire

Or should i need a coda mire riven mod

[shell tundra]

[Yippee hamster image]

[west halo]

You cast 2 on enemy once and then 4 to kill that one, her 4 only need 5 status to deal additional damage, no need to spam cast on the same enemy as mentioned

[slate vale]

I should clarify, you don't get additional damage after first use, you still get a bonus for using it the once

[west halo]

it works, but code mire get less stat than the normal counterpart because of riven disposition

[unreal shadow]

Damn

[slate vale]

Her 4 only needs one status other than its own slash, 5 is still nice though to gamble for magnetic on corpus, corrosive on grineer etc.

[unreal shadow]

And i was able of rolling this one

[west halo]

uh true, i was thinking of her 3

[shell tundra]

I understand how Voruna’s 4 augment works
I’m starting to understand how her kit works
Now I’m just lost on how her Prey of Dynar augment works

Like how does the AOE work?

[slate vale]

Okay so you go invisible
You chomp highlighted enemy
Enemy dies
HUGE status spread

[west halo]

that sums up the augment

[slate vale]

The bonus is multiplicative with your modded range. For example, if you're at 200% range it won't boost it to 350%, it'll boost it to 500%

[shell tundra]

Ah, so I’ll be able to tag enemies in open spaces really easy, and killing those enemies will keep my 3 up, which helps with my 4’s upkeep in terms of energy?

[slate vale]

It's basically like changing your playstyle to be a proper hunter. When you go invisible it gives you your mark, you pounce on that enemy with 2 until it dies, then you clean up what's left. There are funky interactions with things like melee afflictions but it's really not necessarily

[slate vale]

If you have the 4 augment on you're not particularly in need of extra energy economy to cast it as it's a 1 time cast, the economy would be for other abilities like your 2 and 1. Most people will either use the 2 augment and subsume off 4, or use the 4 augment and subsume off 3. (I personally like brightbonnet over 3 to squeeze out extra strength on the 4 cast)

[shell tundra]

What do if I don’t want to subsume abilities?

Can I use both of Voruna’s augments if I don’t subsume abilities?

[slate vale]

In that case either or both augment is fine. There's really no wrong way to do it

I'm personally a big fan of using the mecha set on my frame and puppy to get the effects of the 2 augment without actually having to use another mod slot to get it

Then I'll just use 4 augment and boost range + strength

[glass salmon]

@slate vale hey i have a question if i want to build the mecha set on voruna what should i place to use mecha set on fang and descent

[slate vale]

Mecha empowered goes over your aura slot so it's a pretty easy one. I had archon vitality which I switched for mecha pulse but it can go anywhere tbh. The other 2 slot on your dog so you don't have to worry about it

[glass salmon]

well i already equiped them on my dog but i rather not have kubrow since i have panzer which is better

[versed harbor]

nah the dog is worth it trust esp for voruna

[slate vale]

It really depends. The viral priming on panzer is great, and in a lot of cases it'll give you more usage. I really like using a dog for the mecha set on voruna though. My panzer goes on pr much everything else

[versed harbor]

the difference between full mecha set vs two mods is crazy

[slate vale]

Literally double the range

Plus mecha overdrive goes crazy on dog with something like the paris prime incarnon. My dog claws have 328% status chance rn

[glass salmon]

welp i might have to put omni forma for the aura slot

[slate vale]

Lol that's what I did

[glass salmon]

which i dont have one rn i was thinking of buying one since i am low on formas to craft one and i was even questioning is the omni forma in the shop like blueprint or?

[slate vale]

The blueprint I don't think is in the shop, but you can buy them in packs of 1 or 3

[glass salmon]

ah alright i might just buy one since i only need one either way

also now do i need the pet to have the mecha sets or just my warframe?

[viscid bane]

Is it better to go for regular influence stuff or a slam build on Sarofang?

[west halo]

You can do both, I like to run slam when playing with Voruna

[viscid bane]

you mean a hybrid buil or just 2 separate loadouts?

[west halo]

I meant 2 separate build

[torn karma]

Good boss killer weapons?

[viscid bane]

Got Plinx recently an it's hella fun. Oneshots any undesirables

[glass salmon]

does anyone have atlas one punch build?

[coral crest]

Look for sustained firerate and critical damage with reliable ammo capacity. Do not use beams or status focused weapons

[opal leaf]

As long as you build for Influence for his fist, sttength on Atlas, a bit of range, apply 3 on the enemies, with the Rumble Augment, with 1500 rumble

You one shot anything

[opal leaf]

Toxo, laetum, Burston, and Soma P (yup)

The ones I use (aside Laetum but I heard it's good) for bosses

[coral crest]

I wish status weapons were actually usable against bosses that matter

[eternal prism]

soma☠️

[opal leaf]

Believe me or not... It shredded archon bosses and acolytes with practiced ease

Soma Incarnon is such an underrated gun

[eternal prism]

This is where it should be. it has very little damage in solo target

Incarnon form is funny with a 33 multishot, but there's still no damage

[coral crest]

Those don't really qualify as bosses you need a boss killer for imo

They have different dmg rules

Bosses like fragmented or perita definitely need a dedicated weapon

[opal leaf]

Aight fair.....

[slate vale]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-6701086254255857379

Where is your whimsy

[coral crest]

That's mean

[slate vale]

True

[eternal prism]

(zephyr)

[velvet pulsar]

Dex Pixia

[eternal prism]

skip

[coral crest]

Yeah there are some frames that can just punch them down to death

And they don't need an exalted for it

Zephyr and Nokko

[velvet pulsar]

Octavia

[eternal prism]

mega super secret incarnon soma build

[coral crest]

For some reason Nokko's balls ignore the ability targeting immunity of the fragmented

[eternal prism]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEypHeNWEAAK76S.webp

[coral crest]

[velvet pulsar]

Same goes for Mallet

[coral crest]

Why is Octavia so evil

[eternal prism]

It's very sad it has little status chance

[coral crest]

She's joy and whimsy

Nokko too...

[velvet pulsar]

Although mallet also can damage arbi drones, so I wonder if Nokko's 4 can kill arbi drones too

[opal leaf]

What's the purpose of this though?

[eternal prism]

non inc soma boring and useless

[opal leaf]

It's a powerful gun though

Ngl it shreds

[velvet pulsar]

@coral crest ?

[opal leaf]

True, non Incarnon are boring

But Soma Incarnon are powerful fr fr

[eternal prism]

also boring and useless🥀

if i want solo target gun i preffer burston

[opal leaf]

What? I like it with Harrow 🙁

[slate vale]

You suggested the least whimsical set of weapons possible :( so boring and they easily become people crutches

[coral crest]

No idea. I subsumed him after checking if the fragmented statement is true

[eternal prism]

u need absolute cc for inc form soma

[velvet pulsar]

I might finally build nokko

[eternal prism]

like avenger

it have very low cc
10% if im not misstake

[velvet pulsar]

Just because nokko is Octavia 2.0 when u look at the abilities

[opal leaf]

OK? So In short I can't suggest stuff I know that one I thought?

[opal leaf]

30%

[coral crest]

Wrong

[eternal prism]

inc form have 10

[coral crest]

Nokko is Qorvex 2.0

Their kits are almost identical once you see the full picture

[slate vale]

Fr, we only suggest stug and mk-1 skana in here

[opal leaf]

Huh, aight that's good to know

[coral crest]

Nokko and Qorvex have almost exactly the same abilites in function and exactly the same gameplan

[opal leaf]

But it's a good Gun for Harrow tho, I like it

Soma P is now Harrow's Partner :3

[coral crest]

They even share the archgun gimmick

[eternal prism]

that's the only reason it needs avenger. It at least gives yellow and sometimes orange crits

i can setup it with mirage for example

[velvet pulsar]

Qorvex neither has invisibility nor has a damaging ability which can be left against an enemy like bosses to damage them

Mallet sits on Resonator like Sporespring sits on mushrooms

[eternal prism]

but there is still a problem with the status chance

[coral crest]

Qorvex has invincibility during his 4

[eternal prism]

i cant stack cold arcane

[opal leaf]

Without avenger it deals all orange Crits tho

With Hata Satya it brings the CC up to 500%

[coral crest]

They actually planned Nokko to double the damage of his 4 while in sprodling form

[velvet pulsar]

And the biggest part, playstyle.

U leave a damaging ability and then go invisible.

[coral crest]

But they removed it on release

[eternal prism]

incarnon form cant do orange crits

[coral crest]

So it was even more Qorvex like

[eternal prism]

500% for inc form only 50%

it 60% cc with avenger 110

non inc emmmm eh

[opal leaf]

Huh... I swear it's all orange as I saw it, shredding acolytes and only saw Orange crita

[velvet pulsar]

Design wise, I see the aim to be close to qorvex
Playstyle wise, I see Nokko way more relatable to Octavia

[opal leaf]

We don't talk about the Non Incarnon hahahaha

[coral crest]

Oh yeah playstyle is similar true

[eternal prism]

maybe u have vigilante mod pack

[coral crest]

Wait, is falling asleep a playstyle?

[eternal prism]

but it not about i say

[opal leaf]

Yo real off topic as I just want to know

Is Qorvex hard to learn and is he very active?

[opal leaf]

Not really

Look

[velvet pulsar]

e.g. Mirror Defense:
Kill enemies and collect crystals at the same time.

[coral crest]

He's very high Investment for very mediocre results

[opal leaf]

Mediocre how? And can I use him for a different role?

[coral crest]

He is supposed to be the funny radiation damage nuke

But his damage is not anything impressive whatsoever

[opal leaf]

But instead it just prime Radiation let me guess

Huh... But is he still worth it tho?

[velvet pulsar]

From what I've summed up, use 4th ability augment, leave 4 active against enemies, when finally the energy drain is too much, stop 4.

Repeat.

[coral crest]

It takes him a ton of setup and positioning to melt a small group of enemies

[coral crest]

His subsume is worth it

[velvet pulsar]

I did not enjoy it

[coral crest]

Not really

[opal leaf]

Oh...

[coral crest]

His dmg scales with the amount of enemies

And his pillars act as extra enemies

[opal leaf]

Guess it's not worth to get Qorvex and imma just go to Oberon instead

[velvet pulsar]

Shoot the pillars yesh

[astral tinsel]

it gets pretty good with higher enemy density

[coral crest]

You're supposed to run like a madman setting up pillars and hope the crowd is around the pillars

Then shoot the pillar to explode everyone

[velvet pulsar]

Funny that both use Universal Fallout

[coral crest]

But he has low damage that scales high with crowds, which is honestly really situational

[opal leaf]

Yeah I heard it's infinite energy hahaah

[eternal prism]

Headshots can be a bit awkward at times, but they only give orange crits if you shoot at the head

[velvet pulsar]

It's infinite revive as well

[opal leaf]

Orange crit are not head shots tho

They're body shots

[coral crest]

Yeah. It gets ok at that point

[eternal prism]

In any case, the harrow does not provide enough buffs to this weapon

[opal leaf]

Immortality

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/1-DbdSQNroM?si=ZAwJjmwzMrpPFqiB

[eternal prism]

i see yellow

[coral crest]

But only OK, you're looking at an ideal situation where you are confidently... Scaling high enough to kill like 10 trash enemies

[velvet pulsar]

Torid but ability

[coral crest]

If you wanna do more you have to set up all the pillars to connect in a chain

[opal leaf]

Hmmm... Guess I'm just delulu

Idk

I mean as long as it shreds 95% of the enemies, I'm good

Soma Prime Incarnon are very good imo but I guess it's situational....

Does that mean I'll go back to use Acceltra on Harrow?

[coral crest]

Qorvex is stupidly op in pre steel path levels where your generic unscaled damage oneshots everything

[eternal prism]

just use burston

[coral crest]

But in pre steel path you are not beating Mag

[eternal prism]

it better

[opal leaf]

Nah im setting Burston on Xaku

[astral tinsel]

I mean ofc you aren't beating abilities with weapon scaling

[velvet pulsar]

Qorvex 4th ability augment is hypocrisy regarding valkyr nerf excuse they came up with.

[eternal prism]

🥀

[opal leaf]

And if it doesn't work on Xaku (which I doubt) I'll go back to Torid Xaku

[coral crest]

That's not what I'm talking about

[astral tinsel]

oh pre-sp

[coral crest]

At low lvl Mag's 3 oneshots almost all Grineer

[opal leaf]

I want to make Xaku op tho and want to stick with thematics hahaha

[coral crest]

You just release a giant no LoS wave that murders everything

[eternal prism]

but xaku op even without weapon

[coral crest]

I got called a slur 4 times using Mag as a caster in early game

[astral tinsel]

pre-SP you can also go Gyre

[coral crest]

Yeah but Mag is a starter frame

[velvet pulsar]

I've seen pre sp banshee in a defense mission

Ability spam and it's a speedrun

[opal leaf]

Yeah about that....

They are op in Lvl cap

Their damage (alone) is Doo doo against lvl 300 and below

[coral crest]

Xaku is ok, I dunno

[opal leaf]

I've seen it with my own two eyes and experienced it first hand

[coral crest]

Never felt the damage fall short

[eternal prism]

emmm

[velvet pulsar]

Those situations when enemy vs enemy dmg isn't sufficient

[opal leaf]

I mean that's just relying on the 2 ofc you have to shoot your gun

[opal leaf]

Yeah

[velvet pulsar]

Until the level is too high

[coral crest]

I think i never had this sort of issue

[velvet pulsar]

Octavia has

[opal leaf]

You just afk (or not) in sp with Xaku's 2 are out?

[coral crest]

I play xaku when im sleepy so yes

[opal leaf]

Lemme guess u have Pillage on her 3

[coral crest]

No

Pillage implies I need pressing buttons, I'm too sleepy for that

Think more

[opal leaf]

Roar

[velvet pulsar]

Press 3 to lock an enemy

Spam zymos on the statue's head

[coral crest]

Lazy gate omamori xaku

[opal leaf]

What?!

[velvet pulsar]

The nearby 20m gets nuked

[opal leaf]

How I still feel squishy if I don't spam their 1

They are comfy enough yes but I still die

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-gif-10804346947536782797

[velvet pulsar]

For me, it's nyx

[coral crest]

I just think Nyx looks lame

Very sauceless

How kids say these days

[velvet pulsar]

I have gemini skin

[coral crest]

Oh ok I don't like gemini skins

[opal leaf]

Yeah that bullshit is what make me rage on my Xaku before

Because all of you can do this

But

Bc how the fck am I supposed to that when copying the same builds if yall provide, I'll just die....

[velvet pulsar]

It's like playing as a quest character

[coral crest]

You just move a bit...

[opal leaf]

But that's the past

I am able to go with Xaku comfy rn but still

[velvet pulsar]

Which she is

[coral crest]

Xaku in 4 also gets a huge mobility boost

Enemies have an innately harder time to shoot you in the air

[opal leaf]

So not really afk...

[velvet pulsar]

One day I'll subsume nourish on Xaku's 1

And that day my squadmates will die

[coral crest]

Yes? AFK is bordering on bannable offense

[opal leaf]

OK fck

That calmed me down, that's good to know

[eternal prism]

In general, I didn't even finish the build

[coral crest]

They fixed it just recently

[velvet pulsar]

Didn't find it in notes

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-whispers-in-the-wall-tenno-entrati-1999-gif-16943765476869672917

[opal leaf]

Wait how? My damage only goes 1.2k at max

How are yours on 5 digits?????

[eternal prism]

digits?

[coral crest]

I think it was a nerf regarding nourish specifically

[opal leaf]

Ya see this is the type of shit I don't undersgand

[coral crest]

Something about ally duration

[eternal prism]

roar buff 2nd skill

[opal leaf]

You're in 42k, 42 000, 5 digits

I'm at max 1.2 to 5.2 k

[eternal prism]

it u without roar u can use armor strip skill

[velvet pulsar]

That's volt fix

[opal leaf]

But how do u survive without Omamori?