builds-discussion

[eternal prism]

U should

It multiplicative

I don't remember exactly how many, but 1 should be enough

[sand swift]

So 4 tau orange shout be good enough,Right? Or full 5?

[eternal prism]

I don't think you need that much

[tidal parrot]

i wana say like mabey 2 is all thats needed but i think i did 4 or 5 just because it was funny

[eternal prism]

If u want damage check just go disruption

If u 1 shot demolisher = your build work

[sand swift]

I might just say screw it and leave it as just an OG strip since it's only single target

[proper meadow]

Ok ax is really cool and that's with barely any mods.. how should I build it

[random prawn]

How much is this worth? Someone wants to buy it from me since it's a meme riven mod

The enemies will never see the rockets coming

[velvet pulsar]

Very high

[novel bear]

That should definitely one shot

Are you using it against enemies resistant to radiation?

[velvet pulsar]

That negative projectile speed makes it 5 times funnier

[random prawn]

500p? 600p? or is that a bit too much

[velvet pulsar]

500 I guess

[proper meadow]

Ok my ax-52 build is already amazing and I needed only arcane and acuity for it

[scarlet mason]

Heard that perigale is a good boss killer. Is that true?

[unkempt sapphire]

anyone got a good dantevious jaquavious the 56th build for him and his Grimoire

[wary forge]

I mean it’s good single target so I guess

[eternal prism]

yes

[scarlet mason]

Anyone have a build for perigale?

I wanted to go for crit build but i messed sth up i think and dmg was not great against the fragmented one

[old marsh]

420p

No less. No more.

[opal leaf]

Would decide 400 to 450 imo but it's a nice spot

[random prawn]

Will Kahl buy it for that much?

If not, then what about clem?

[old marsh]

Nah. Kahl gets it for free

[slate vale]

Thank you ulfrun very cool

[coral crest]

People call 4 trash when it can do this

Geniunely one of the best casters in the game

[slate vale]

A lvl 190 manic bombard eximus has ehp equivalent to an average lvlcap enemy, it's great for testing insane content without spending hours actually getting to it

[slate vale]

FR some guy called this build a "cope 4" build yesterday lmao

[eternal prism]

if skill have % damage it doesnt matter

u not need spend hours time

[slate vale]

True, but most builds can't have that

[opal leaf]

It's bc they subsume it and focus on Rip off Sevagoth Voruna hahaha

[fierce lark]

some people take the kpm pill and melee voruna

[hollow scarab]

anyone got an SP volt build i can see?

cuz so far i only have an eso build and i wanna make smth useful

[tranquil glacier]

What's a good build for Uriel? I'm new and someone gifted it to me

[hollow scarab]

thanks

any shards?

[fickle whale]

depends what mission type. If only sp running to end go with str, If speedrunning disruption parkour velocity at least x3

[bold estuary]

I’m enjoying playing lavos but I’m not 100% sure how your supposed to do a persistence setup I get he has high armor and health with a healing ability but it’s got a cooldown so you can’t spam it no?

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-shark-poggers-gif-18611208

[hollow scarab]

for me its not knowing what element is good to put on every ability

like idk whats best for his 4 most of all but his ither three idk still

[random prawn]

What is this?

https://tenor.com/view/he-ate-them-youtube-thumbnail-fnaf-gif-17172391705264831213

[coral crest]

You're supposed to use his cooldown reduction...

There's even an augment that gives his heal an ability to reduce cooldowns, including immediately refunding some of the cast cd

With Persistence Lavos, you're either a valence formation bot or a caster

Because 10s occasionally cut short with a 20s ability is all you're gonna get

[versed harbor]

just use shield recharge >:]

[coral crest]

Yeah, if you're not committing to a caster, shield recharge is probably better

[versed harbor]

activate lavos redline ez

[coral crest]

Work out at the library

It would still mean killing grimoire tagged enemies though

Only active caster lavos truly benefits

Because 100% of your kit has cc properties and you have much more access to 1

Everyone else is offloading their survivability

[coral crest]

RedLavos

[shy veldt]

Should I use Dagath's ability, roar, or xata on ash? nourish would be a great idea as well but that's the obvious choice.(i dont want the obvious choice)

[coral crest]

Would roar also not be very obvious

[shy veldt]

it would be

but noursih is the more obvious choice, is it not>?

[proper meadow]

How does ax-52 have 0.85x disposition

Based on it's strength I would put it minimum 1.30x

[warm obsidian]

Wrathful Advance on Khora
Thoughts?

[viscid bane]

Anybody got a Plinx build to hit damage cap?

[charred gale]

energy econ issues

at least u might not be able to spam it

[warm obsidian]

I mean I could already spam whips :v

[charred gale]

sure ig

[sonic folio]

That's a cool whip

[wide verge]

is it worth incarnornin my burston

[charred gale]

yes

[wide verge]

Alr 👍

[viscid bane]

Yes,one of the best single target guns in the game

[queen sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/67-6767-676767-cat67-cat-gif-18345003009543756801

[charred gale]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HC7GTvMXwAEdBZA.gif

[queen sandal]

Hi zsss hru

[charred gale]

im js kinda bored lol

good otherwise

[queen sandal]

Same honestly

https://tenor.com/view/shark-pet-headpat-gif-2252832319832900197

Hop on high guard bro!! (Pls get the joke)

[sonic folio]

Mpreg talk

[charred gale]

with the 4 other ppl

[queen sandal]

Yeah LMAO

1v1

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-eric-tao-ken-leung-industry-industry-hbo-gif-13702557412707969815

[opal leaf]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Oh... It's a Shork

Soma Prime is very underrated

I never heard someone talking about Soma fr hahaha

It's one of the strongest guns... For sure

[queen sandal]

My beloved

[queen sandal]

I became a weapon?

[opal leaf]

Yee! Aside from Burston you are one of the best single weapon target that no one talks abot

Sombra Prime

Incarnon installed ofc

[queen sandal]

XDDD that’s cool

[opal leaf]

Yeah but jokes aside

Soma Prime is such a good weapon

0 to 500% crit chance in an instant

Melted acolytes in seconds hahaha

[pallid quiver]

Sombra prime

[opal leaf]

If I had the chance I'll rename my Soma into Sombra prime

Meme puproses

[shy veldt]

Do it

[opal leaf]

Oh I will, I just don't know how yet hahaha

I'll do it next week

[slate vale]

Omg hii sombra

[queen sandal]

Hiii!

https://tenor.com/view/shark-pet-headpat-gif-2252832319832900197

[slate vale]

I did a lil bit of silly modding with ulfruns

[queen sandal]

I wish I even knew that that weapon was ❤️

[slate vale]

Vorunas 4

[queen sandal]

Ahh I see I only play Sevagoth

[slate vale]

Ah of course as the gods intended

[opal leaf]

Is it fair to claim Harrow and Xaku :3

I'll study them with my at most ability

[shy veldt]

Wow

[queen sandal]

I don’t play anything other than several goths it was chosen by the DE devs

[queen sandal]

If you dooo I could get help with a guide for them for my #1477886221643415747 👀

[opal leaf]

Harrow is a bit of a Goth if you fashion him enouhh

I have an edit that makes him looks like a Goth if u wanf

[slate vale]

Several goths???? WHERE

[opal leaf]

Xaku and Harrow?

[queen sandal]

Several goths as in Sevagoths lmao

[shy veldt]

Several goths... the amount of aura autocorrect has is crazy

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhh

[queen sandal]

No I said that cause I have like 60 Sevagoths

[shy veldt]

🫩

[opal leaf]

Wait what does that even mean?

[queen sandal]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Let's see what the brains of Warframe has to say

[queen sandal]

I spent over 1200 plat on slots for 60+ Sevagoths

https://tenor.com/view/shark-pet-headpat-gif-2252832319832900197

Most my inspiration for doing it was “if I won’t play anything else might as well”

[wide verge]

Best burston incarnon build?P

[opal leaf]

But u have no Xaku and Harroe

Or u meant that if I were able to study Xaku and Harrow I'll share it to you

[queen sandal]

Yes lol

[opal leaf]

Oooo I misunderstood! Sorryyyy

[queen sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-pet-headpat-gif-2252832319832900197

[opal leaf]

Yes I will share it to you fr fr

[opal leaf]

Do u have rules when it comes to it?

[queen sandal]

Not really but there is a format you can follow if you wanna make it easier for me lmao

[opal leaf]

Sure thing!

But it would take 2 weeks hahaha

Each frame

[queen sandal]

Beauty takes time

Or perfection? I forgot the saying

[opal leaf]

Both works hahah

[opal leaf]

DM me the format if u have so I can study base on it

[queen sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-blahaj-plush-blahaj-drop-goodbye-gif-27210422

[wide verge]

Whats the best burston incarnon build?

[opal leaf]

It depends

If u are good at headshots

Acuity build is good

But if ur not but want consistency, go Multishot

Do Viral magnetic as Burston already have Innate hwat

What I do with the Burston is mix the 2 a bit

Galv Chambers, Glav Scope and The arcane would be Primary Deadhead

[wide verge]

will this work?

[queen sandal]

Check DMs

[opal leaf]

Ya sure give it a try

Again if u don't have problems with during headshots, go Acuity..... But upgrade them at least

[opal leaf]

Will do.. I'll fill it up

[wide verge]

Yh but this is just the basic so I can put formas

[opal leaf]

I have mine 2 formas only

[wide verge]

can u send ss of the build?

[glass salmon]

does anyone have voruna pirme build for her 4th ability and one for her second ability too?

[opal leaf]

Mine is MS build

[opal leaf]

Urs are ok acuity build

[bold estuary]

Wildly overkill

Strapping a handgun to a nuclear bomb

[opal leaf]

Here is my SS if ur still curious

[floral tulip]

I'm planning on grinding all the coda weapons, (for the mastery) but whats the element i should look for? I dont want to keep changing wf's

[versed harbor]

coda weapons dont work like that u just buy them and the progenitor and % just rotate every few days

u can farm them as whoever

[opal leaf]

Ah aight that's good to know

[bold estuary]

You can also buy valance thingys from Eleanor and make your adversary weapon whatever element you want assuming you put 5 forma into it

I put one on the dual toxricas I bought at 56% impact and made them magnetic or something

[warm obsidian]

No augment?

[opal leaf]

Is that must have? No one was complaining that not having it is making the Burston bad or worse

[warm obsidian]

Not really

[charred gale]

unless u have an external firerate buff its rly good

[opal leaf]

What does it do anyways, let me search

[opal leaf]

I mean Harrow has that

[charred gale]

yeah so i dont think u rly need it

[opal leaf]

But I like Soma Prime more

[versed harbor]

ye dont slot if ur harrow

[opal leaf]

Yeah guess it

[opal leaf]

Yeah I figured it out

[coral crest]

90% firerate

[opal leaf]

Just that?

[coral crest]

+1 truth

[charred gale]

yeah so vile acceleration but no -15% dmg

[warm obsidian]

Personally running this
Can't decide on last slot

[opal leaf]

That's the gas thing right?

[wide verge]

ty

[opal leaf]

Sure

[warm obsidian]

Thinking of going Primed Shred

[coral crest]

Oops it's 80%, not 90%

[opal leaf]

It's good

[versed harbor]

primed shred is just as good tbh its just preference

[charred gale]

oh wth

[coral crest]

And yes, truth is the fart one

[warm obsidian]

Ain't running Galvanized s(cope)

[opal leaf]

What I like is Sombra Prime now tbh

I like it more than Burston hahahah

[opal leaf]

Is it good? Might use it with Xaku

[warm obsidian]

Actually
I do have Primary Acuity

[coral crest]

It's a big firerate boost

I don't see why not

[opal leaf]

It'll make the burston into Auton bet

[coral crest]

And it has a truth nuke

[opal leaf]

Aight how much is this bish

[coral crest]

It's a generic augment

[opal leaf]

Tradable?

[warm obsidian]

At Arbiters iirc

[coral crest]

25k standing to Hexis

[warm obsidian]

Yep

[opal leaf]

Imma trade wid it

[coral crest]

Let me guess

10p on the market

If I'm wrong I'm buying you one

[charred gale]

not worth imo, the amount of aiming u have to bother with to make it better than a regular build is just too much

[opal leaf]

Aight let me check

[charred gale]

especially since ur flying around everywhere

[coral crest]

Generic augments are all 10-15p

[warm obsidian]

Yep on Arbiter shop

[coral crest]

15p are the ones with an evil cabal controlling the price

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's 10 as lowest

[coral crest]

HAH

[opal leaf]

Proof hahaha

[warm obsidian]

Or trade it for another generic augment from a different Syndicate

[coral crest]

Yeah true

[velvet pulsar]

15p are new loka or perin sequence mafia

[warm obsidian]

I'd scroll down you never know what you can find

[coral crest]

Yeah imagine willingly aligning yourself with new loka

[velvet pulsar]

Reminder that Suda is 100% enemy of Loka

[coral crest]

In the silver grove they call you "one of the good ones"

[warm obsidian]

Magistar

[velvet pulsar]

[opal leaf]

I'll trade it with someone off tbh hahha

[coral crest]

They also send infested after your ass

[velvet pulsar]

Even that reason isn't enough
Because base has better dmg

[opal leaf]

Going viral Gas on this bish

[warm obsidian]

Aligning on Red Veil for the sigils

[coral crest]

That's just a proof they're evil

[velvet pulsar]

"purity"

[opal leaf]

What's that have to do with Evil? XDDDD

[coral crest]

Magistar is evil

[opal leaf]

Hahahaha

[velvet pulsar]

It's totally unnatural

You're telling me that crafting sibear requires Magistar & tons of cyrotic, but still deals lower damage?

[opal leaf]

BTW is spamming one on Harrow's normal? I've been doing it to survive hahaha

[opal leaf]

Ah that's why it's evil

[warm obsidian]

Encountered 2 of the most white boy build ever
Wukong Prime, Torid, Dual Toxocyst, one had Xoris while other had Sancti Magistar

[charred gale]

🐲 Magistar 🥶 In mission carry 👤200m damage 💪 15x Crit mult 🤷‍♂️ Extra 300% CC from wrathful advance 💦 Unstoppable 🚫 Oneshots thrax 🛡️ Dispatch overdrive 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝️ Slam to win 🕐 Can solo levelcap 🧙‍♂️ Versatile builds and beginner friendly 👺… AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[opal leaf]

The emoji spammer of Gen z

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[velvet pulsar]

I've killed many.

[opal leaf]

I can't hahahah

[coral crest]

Call this build "monkey poacher"

[velvet pulsar]

Oh hey look, "voice chat" is back

[charred gale]

i didnt even know this was enabled lmao

[opal leaf]

Tbh it's just... Available for some reason hahaha

[west night]

For everyone that helped me with the Sevagoth Build, thanks. I'm finally figuring things out. Now my Sevagoth can actually stay more than 10 seconds alive

[warm obsidian]

Forma starved my ass

[velvet pulsar]

Sevagut

[warm obsidian]

Replaced concentration for Energize

[coral crest]

Sevagnarp

[warm obsidian]

Sevaglorp

[queen sandal]

me neither

[queen sandal]

the second i open this chat lmao

[velvet pulsar]

Ur sevagut sense tingled

[queen sandal]

whys everyone using this specific build now?

[warm obsidian]

Nuke :v

[queen sandal]

yeah i know but i saw the exact one yesterday

ohh wait it was rolling guard nvm

[queen sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-ocean-angel-shark-angelshark-shark-gif-1033222200509969522

[glass salmon]

does anyone have voruna pirme build for her 4th ability and one for her second ability too?

[warm obsidian]

https://overframe.gg/build/789898/

[coral crest]

I am innocent

[warm obsidian]

If you check the profile of the user you can see the build with Forma

[coral crest]

"hi guys whos the best nuker im mr5"

[glass salmon]

alright ty i saw it

[queen sandal]

😭

[velvet pulsar]

Operator

[warm obsidian]

Better than Wukong :v

[velvet pulsar]

Immediately spoil that brat

[warm obsidian]

There's just something about Wukong players lol
Matches with 2 Randos in Ophelia and they understood that it was a farming run

Then a Wukong player joined

[coral crest]

And everyone clapped

[glass salmon]

uhh question which one is the second ability build one?

and which is the 4th ability one

[slate vale]

Config b is for 2, config A is for 4

Screenshot is from config A

[glass salmon]

alright ty

is there way to swap out brief resp or?

[slate vale]

Yeah the aura is not that important tbh. Status immunity with passive 2 and invis is plenty of survivability for most content. You could swap it with growing power, or if you want to also run mecha set you can run mecha empowered

[glass salmon]

which is better bc i heard mecha empowered is better bc it will nuke everything in the room if marked ofc but you will need to set all of the mecha mods on your kubrow and voruna too

[velvet latch]

Let’s see the Yareli build

[granite ginkgo]

u dont need tho, the only reason for full set is the bar scaling - just put the aura mod and other 2 more in kubrow

[viscid bane]

What's a good melee primer?

[slate vale]

Tbf its cool and it does some funny numbers, but at a max set you're doing a 30m aoe which is exceeded by anything above 190% range. A melee with afflictions will do just as well, if not better

[granite ginkgo]

theres melee primer??

i tho only pet, primary and secondary can primed

[slate vale]

Which one?

[viscid bane]

Apparently there are some buids so I decided to ask here

[wary forge]

You shouldn’t need the prime when u melee

[granite ginkgo]

link?

[wary forge]

If you do ur melee build sucks

[velvet latch]

Your best one

[glass salmon]

and that works with each build of voruna with second and fourth ability with the mecha mods?

[viscid bane]

No I mean to prime WITH melee for gunCO

[wary forge]

Why would you prime with a Melee

[viscid bane]

because

[granite ginkgo]

ah, theres epitaph, cedo (alt fire), arcane encumber

[slate vale]

The 30m range at 190% is referring to the 2. You can essentially replace the 2 augment with the mecha set if you want to just run ulfruns endurance and it'll pr much do the same thing

[charred gale]

i have aoe priming with my sancti magistar

[wary forge]

C/burger

[glass salmon]

alright i will try them later

[charred gale]

:wuh:

[slate vale]

I've heard some people use orthos prime for priming, however that may just be an "old warframe" thing before the average power ramped up so high

[wary forge]

Chat don’t prime with a melee 💀

[slate vale]

If you do wanna run mecha set on the 4 build I recommend replacing archon vitality for the other warframe set mecha mod. Archon vitality isn't much good on voruna other than for the sake of squeezing out extra damage %

[viscid bane]

But I waaaaaanna 🙁

[slate vale]

Yknow you're allowed to be helpful to people and not just shoot down their builds right? Some people want more fun than perfection

[wary forge]

Priming is cope anyways but just use a primary or secondary to prime some primary primers like Phantasma can use primary exhilarate for energy

[quiet laurel]

I mean you can prime with a melee, but then thats just your badly built dps weapon

[viscid bane]

Bruh I'm trying to make a meme build, not a good build

[wary forge]

Ok

[slate vale]

Just taking a look at my collection of melees, some high status primer builds could be:
Ceti lacera (base 40% status and decent damage)
Cobra and crane prime (38% +dmg)
Harmony (36% + holy passive)
Coda mire (40% + yummy viral)

[astral tinsel]

coda caustacyst for the pools if you get tennokai

nepheri and verdilac shoot stuff

coda pathocyst has forced viral and 38% base status on charged throws

[slate vale]

Also tenet grigori has a projectile and high base status

[astral tinsel]

kestrel prime has forced blast, 40% SC and can bounce a lot while you shoot stuff

[velvet pulsar]

Forced knockdown on throw

Procs afflictions in a group

[sharp ember]

Hi im looking for an op endgame harmony build

[velvet pulsar]

Status Duration

[sharp ember]

Soo u got a screenshot of the mods or anything?

[velvet pulsar]

Been a while when I built it, maybe doesn't need a change.

Arcane is afflictions.

[celest turret]

Any citrine mains that can help me with a build? before I look up one. The latest one is 9mo ago by warframeflo

[sharp ember]

Why not use sac pressure if ur using the other one instead of primed?

[old marsh]

Dmg difference

Also mod drain

[solar reef]

Primed still does more damage and the sac group benefit is typically less beneficial

[viscid bane]

Aything I need to change besides progenitor? (Kuva Zarr)

[astral tinsel]

actually if my math is correct sac pressure works out to slightly more average damage on heavy attacks

in this particular build

1.65*(1+(0.2*(1+2.2*2)*(2.2*1.85)-1)) = 7.253 with PPP vs 1.375*(1+(0.2*(1+2.75*2)*(2.2*1.85)-1)) = 7.275 with sac

[astral tinsel]

could replace serration with cannonade if no external fire rate

add ammo mutation in exilus slot

[undone dust]

execute HM

[astral tinsel]

that's one thing you could do yeah

drop HM, replace cryo with rime and slot stormbringer for an elec status build

the double AoE is gonna shred packed enemies

[opal leaf]

What's the gun

[undone dust]

have you tried scrolling up like 2 messages

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447746224458563784/1479565082823229522/togif.gif

[opal leaf]

I was eating sorry hahah

[undone dust]

it's okay bro i love you

[opal leaf]

I'll re read

[opal leaf]

Thanks bro, I love you too

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-mom-mama-mother-lick-gif-13059778370190649168

[tough laurel]

Is this a good riven or should I try to reroll for better?

[blazing bear]

How should I build kuva sobek for uriel?

[astral tinsel]

reroll

-SC is not great, +mag cap is a dead stat, +heat is meh, +multishot is not as good as you'd expect it to be bc half of burston's damage is hitscan aoe

[tough laurel]

Best reroll I got

What should I try and go for on the riven?

[astral tinsel]

crit

[tough laurel]

Gotcha

[astral tinsel]

multishot is good, but a dead stat for acuity builds

[solar reef]

-status kills a riven

[astral tinsel]

depends on the weapon

[tough laurel]

Best build I got so far

[solar reef]

99% this is the case

[astral tinsel]

I'd say a +CC +CD -SC burston riven would be at least decent

[solar reef]

Still want to keep rolling

if you have to make up or cope with a rivens - its not a good negative

[astral tinsel]

drop galvanized aptitude, it ignores the +42 damage from the evo perk

[solar reef]

the only exception being Multishot as acuity burston is statistically better on a numbers sheet

so you can cope with -MS

[astral tinsel]

it's not good, but not so bad that I wouldn't use the riven while rolling for something better

[solar reef]

Do take this with a grain of salt, as its just based on Market trends.

[astral tinsel]

and so I wouldn't say it "kills" a burston riven - not like -CC or -CD would

[astral tinsel]

oh and put in some CD

[tough laurel]

I’ve got 3.2x base and 5.4x as my highest

With incarnon

[viscid bane]

Do people generally go for MS or Acuity build for Tenet Plinx?

[opal leaf]

All 3 Galv mods???..... That's....

[opal leaf]

Aptitude won't work... Someone just told you that

[tough laurel]

Bro I haven’t been playing long don’t flame me too hard 😭😭

[opal leaf]

Don't worry

Are you going MS or Acuity?

[tough laurel]

Ideally ms idk what acuity builds are first time hearing it tbh

[opal leaf]

This is an MS build

[viscid bane]

Builds centering around this. You forgo Multishot for massive CC but punished for missing headshots

[opal leaf]

There is the... Arrow thingy so that.... Yeah

[naive hinge]

what archon shards for uriel ?

[opal leaf]

All. S t r E n g t H

No

All. D u r a t I o n...

Either way is good

Fck I'm farming Uriel after Nokko

[naive hinge]

why dura ?

[opal leaf]

To make his 4 stay longer and burn anyone

A potential afk

[naive hinge]

uriel is my main now so i want to make him happy
but i dont have many shards ): should i use them on him ?

[opal leaf]

If u want... It's all preference

I'm surely gonna get Uriel for sure

[timber sparrow]

i want some assistance everyone for this synoid simulor. its doing ok but i wonder if it can be made better

and this is the riven i just dont have kuva rn

[naive hinge]

does this work for uriel ?

does it buff his ..

[dry bane]

Should? But theyre more casters than attackers, not sure if Summoners wrath affects their ability damage

[velvet pulsar]

Not a big difference

[naive hinge]

this or dreamer's bond

[velvet pulsar]

This is still better because companion damage gets boosted

[tough laurel]

I’m doing this

[velvet pulsar]

In fact I use it on Nyx even though Summoner's Wrath doesn't affect her Mind Control.

I use it just to buff Moa

[naive hinge]

saw a yt video having green orange violet shard how to get those ?

[craggy isle]

does anyone have pilfering swarm?

[dry bane]

Reposting here (sorry, was in the wrong chat before)
I enjoy weird, weird builds... I also run a Protea with Fire Walker + Pyroclastic flow + Arcane hot shot = dive the enemy with proteas 4 and fire walker on, cover a huge area, end the 4, use Fire DoT as a primer And Arcane hot shot crit booster!

[atomic moth]

If you want to be happy slot 2 cast and 3 PV shards

[timber sparrow]

no synoid simulor tips for me

[dry bane]

Curious if anyone else likes off-meta and augs=yes builds. Every Aug, every weird subsume combo. All of it? Variety is the best part of WF for me

[timber sparrow]

no subsumes but yes

[naive hinge]

whats pv

[dry bane]

Id rather be sorta SP viable with my silly builds than meta levelcap builds

[atomic moth]

Parkour velocity

[atomic moth]

Lemme give you some

[naive hinge]

why ?

[atomic moth]

You prob want to take off augment

And switch to manual detonation

[lean tendon]

level cap isn't that hard to build to, even for off-meta builds

[atomic moth]

Also take off heat mod

[lean tendon]

people do no mod runs in level cap

[timber sparrow]

i really dont want to spam 2 mouse buttons

[atomic moth]

Make pure corrosive or viral electric

It's important to have electric mod with high %

Also slot elementalist

[timber sparrow]

my riven is elec but thats temporary

[atomic moth]

Ye you can use your current riv as elec mod

[atomic moth]

You still can use augment but damage would be significantly low

Compared to spamming detonation button

I binded altfire to mouse scroll wheel so it's easy to me

[atomic moth]

Why you don't want to move fast

[dry bane]

Kinda gate-keepy. Levelcap requires a lot of investment, different build and playstyle.

[bold warren]

Something still feels off about this build to me but I can’t tell what. Can anyone help?

[timber sparrow]

elementalist is already there

[lean tendon]

people do no mod runs there

[bold warren]

Like I seriously don’t know how to fix this but something definitely isn’t clicking with me.

[dry bane]

Why growing power? Do you need equi when you have dispensary energy?

[bold warren]

I based this off ninjase Build so 🤷 I unlock Archon Mods next weekly reset so for now thats a no go

[lean tendon]

dispensary works better with equilibrium

[dry bane]

So... flexing And gatekeeping? Dont really care that some frames can do modless levelcap and others cant solo a sortie modless 🤷‍♂️

[atomic moth]

should be somth like this in the end

[lean tendon]

no, it means it's not as hard and investment heavy as people think to

[atomic moth]

also elec dot can proc deadhead

[lean tendon]

it's just... endurance pro max+ I guess

[timber sparrow]

for free?

[atomic moth]

i mean you need to aim to the head

[timber sparrow]

😪

[dry bane]

Archon vitality (?) The one that doubles fire procs is kinda fun. Do you have arcane energize though? Would solve energy problems without the need to stand at dispensary, and wouldnt require equilibrium so you get a slot back

[bold warren]

Yes I am planning to get Vitality next week but for now I need to make this build work with a slot that I can replace for the Archon Mod?

No I do not have Arcane Energize

[naive hinge]

what shard is it

[dry bane]

Vosfor packs from your syndicate standing, the buy arcane packs from loid? If you can afford the standing

[atomic moth]

yellow

the same as cast speed

[naive hinge]

dont have another one 🙂

[dry bane]

Which part of the build isnt working for you? What do you want from it?

[bold warren]

Huh?

[timber sparrow]

1. no augments
2. no archon vitality
3. using streamline

[bold warren]

It just, FEELS clunky to me. Like something isn’t quite slotting in right even though I do enjoy having Larva over Temporal Anchor etc

[bold warren]

MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, IVE ONLY BEEN PLAYING FOR A MONTH

[timber sparrow]

but you want to build protea off a ninjase build

and plus you asked what is wrong

[ornate relic]

this is mine, its good for sp i would sugget u use nourish instead of dispenser

[dry bane]

Less range + More duration then? Blaze artillery by itself isnt great without lots of duration. Get several of them to higher combos at the same time

[bold warren]

Larva Grouping is why I like this Protea Build so don’t wanna give it up tbh

[bold warren]

Duration isn’t needed for Larva apparently so IDK

[ornate relic]

tbh

[dry bane]

They probably dont have a way to benefit from nourish indirectly, new tenno

[ornate relic]

more dmg > duration

[dry bane]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[ornate relic]

well

im broke asf rn

[mighty flare]

Archon vitality overvalued on protea, turrets kill with mostly raw damage for early game

[timber sparrow]

oh theres a subsume xd

[dry bane]

Not needed for larva, but Great on blaze artillery. If theyre not reaching max combo or you can only keep 1-2 going at the same time, you need more Dur

Could try the larva augment if you have it too, pop the larva for faster recasting and toxic prime the grabbed enemies

[bold warren]

I do not have the Augment but that has been a consideration

[dry bane]

Gotta invest in syndicate work for sure then, augs are awesome for changing up abilities and sometimes essential to make them work at all

[bold warren]

Yeah I’m levelling up my Steel Meridian

[timber sparrow]

someone say augments?

[mighty flare]

Larva Aug is unnecessary for protea larva

[dry bane]

3? Not bad! Haha

[bold warren]

Sorry I just don’t really know what to do to fix my Protea Build

[dry bane]

Necessary? Arguable. Great fun and MUCH faster to spam/recast, crowd Control and toxic prime? Yes

[mighty flare]

Unnecessary*

Toxin priming is something

[dry bane]

And w/o the augment, if larva grabs someone that gets stuck along the way.... gotta wait till it expires

[mighty flare]

What is “wrong”?

[bold warren]

Something just isn’t flowing for me when I cycle through Protea’s Abilities and IDK what it is

[dry bane]

Youre using her innate to get the power strength bonus on blaze or her 1?

[versed harbor]

wdym by flow like are u having a dmg problem or an energy problem or a survivability problem or what

[mighty flare]

The abilities feel clunky? Or a damage issue

[bold warren]

Abilities feel clunky to use

[versed harbor]

stick some casting speed shards on

[mighty flare]

Do you have natural talent? Would use that over streamline

[bold warren]

Nah its just, IDK how else to describe it other than the abilities feeling clunky and awkward to chain together

[bold warren]

Yeah I do but Streamline WAS here cause the Energy Drain was kinda heavy

[bold warren]

What do I swap for Archon Vitality when I get it?

[hoary saddle]

any revenant mains/mod recommendations

[bold warren]

Not ready for Archon Hunts

Like it costs 108 Energy to cast Dispensary which is kinda yikes

[ornate relic]

also is this a good burston build (not mine)

[dry bane]

Thats fair. Dont have to rush into it

[versed harbor]

streamline wont rly save u tbh u just gotta rely on equilibrium dispensary

[mighty flare]

I don’t really recommend archon vitality in general, if you can’t manage blind rage, I just wouldn’t use it

[versed harbor]

try to get the bonus strength from passive on ur dispensary too for more energy

[dry bane]

Dropping blind range for transient fortitude, then using something else in the streamline and equilibrium slots might work. Augur Message to bring the duration back up, and natural talent for casting speed? You'd have a bit less raw STR, but less energy overhead and faster casting

Build crafting in my head w/o the game open is an interesting thing haha

[dusty dragon]

man i love how "un-subsumable" uriel is. peak design

[ornate relic]

should i change aptitude for scope??

[bold warren]

Augur Mods are a big NO NO on Protea

[dry bane]

Right. Forgot about that. Ignore pls lol

[dry bane]

Do you have a primer?

[bold warren]

Yeah Energy Sustain is definitely an issue for me

[ornate relic]

incarnon

[fierce lark]

yes, and should change corrosive to viral if you aren’t getting it externally, elementalist isn’t that good either, most of the dmg is raw

90 elements are better than 60s if you aren’t using a primed

[bold warren]

@dry bane

[lean tendon]

if dispensary + equilibrium isn't enough then idk what to tell you

even with Blind Rage, you're permanently high energy

[dry bane]

Whats up

[bold warren]

I just forget to cast Dispensary first but even then I can’t do it with the starting energy I have so IDK

[lean tendon]

the starting energy doesn't matter too much since you can just kill a few enemies to get enough energy

[fierce lark]

this is where someone comes in with the energy pizza suggestion

[lean tendon]

^ or use consumable ye

[dry bane]

Gotta ditch blind for the moment IMO. If dispensary cant be cast and you have no other of getting Starting energy, then the sustain after from equi isnt worth much

[lean tendon]

can also just use preparation shards/preparation mod itself but that's a waste of slot imo

[fierce lark]

preparation mod is cool

or energy consumables

or starting energy shard

[lean tendon]

you only need 1 cast anyways then the rest of the mission you're basically infinite mana

[dry bane]

Baby Tenno. They're a baby Tenno. No prep or shards yet

[lean tendon]

just kill a few enemies

[fierce lark]

it’s a waste of a slot as much as pizzas are a waste of your time

[fierce lark]

prep is a mod you can get after eris

[lean tendon]

preparation is easy to get

[earnest saddle]

blind rage is not worth slotting 90% of the time over transient fortitude

if you're having energy problems, switch

[lean tendon]

archon shards sure they are annoying to get for baby tennos

[bold warren]

Do I do something like this then?

[dry bane]

? Its an arbitration, not super easy for baby tenno

[fierce lark]

if you’re talking protea specifically then idk, but generally speaking this just isn’t true

[lean tendon]

Arbitrations are now easy to unlock

[bold warren]

Arbitrations are easy xD

[lean tendon]

Arbitrations are unlocked from gaining access to Pluto and completing the Eris Junction task "Equip a Focus Lens".

[dry bane]

Then you could get it then, ok

[lean tendon]

baby tennos reach this section fast enough

and they can just do pubs

[bold warren]

I assume this is good enough?

[fierce lark]

the thing with prep is it’s expensive to rank and slot and it’s very rarely needed

but you could probably leave it at 4 or 6

[lean tendon]

you don't need max anyways

[dry bane]

Try it and see? That's the best fun of WF, working on builds! But Im still not sure you NEED equi IF youre standing near a dispensary often anyways

[lean tendon]

but I wouldn't waste a slot when you can just kill a few mobs at the first 30 seconds of the mission and cast dispensary

[dry bane]

When you've just gotta wait a couple seconds more for 1-2 real energy orbs.. IDK never used equi on my protea 🤷‍♂️ maybe for extreme survival or other synergizies with health orbs it might be needed, but I dont think you need it so early

[lean tendon]

it just synergizes well with dispensary

with just dispensary you will still have energy issues

equilibrium or arcane energize helps

[dry bane]

I guess its for easier with arcane energize, but still not sure if its Necessary for a new tenno to use

[dry bane]

Are you playing star chart, steel path, sorties?...

[lean tendon]

equilibrium is definitely mandatory imo

it just solves energy

if you want to, you can farm synth deconstruct in Fortuna bounties to get even more orb drops for equilibrium

[dry bane]

Nah

[lean tendon]

running dispensary by itself feels not as good since energy drops only give 25

and you're spamming 1 and 2 a lot

[tough laurel]

What are the main archon shards I should put on uriel?

[lean tendon]

yes it is, especially since energy is like one of the biggest problems of baby tennos

zenurik and synth deconstruct/dethcube is an alternative

[quiet laurel]

equilibrium is like the go to way to solve energy

[lean tendon]

but you get equilibrium for free and you don't need it maxed out

[dry bane]

Absolutely. 110% Optional, not mandatory

[quiet laurel]

if we wanna go that route nothing in this game is mandatory

[woven perch]

I know this a dumb question but why do some warframe got more capacity then others

[bold warren]

Star Chart, just need to complete Sedna then I have Steel Path

[quiet laurel]

you can lvl cap with a modless warframe

[bold warren]

I’m using Deconstruct as well so IDK.

[quiet laurel]

but equilibrium is close to mandatory on a lot of builds to solve energy in an efficient way

[lean tendon]

just kill a few mobs at the start and then cast dispensary

your problem is solved that way

[dry bane]

Negative efficiency really is just, know, not efficient haha

[lean tendon]

your problem isn't really a modding issue, you just need to be patient enough for like 10 seconds to get infinite energy

dispensary + equilibrium even with blind rage is infinite energy

[dry bane]

Really? Funny how ive almost never used it. Maybe 1 in 10 builds, for 10+ years

[lean tendon]

source: myself since I use blind rage myself on Protea

[quiet laurel]

very questionable building then

[dry bane]

Ah okay then. Gatekeeping and tape measures start coming out now jeez

[quiet laurel]

?

[lean tendon]

you could argue about it before but nowadays it's just way too good of a value especially after its update where you can pick up orbs even when full

[bold warren]

Having leftover energy on a companion is fine right?

[bold warren]

Good point

[lean tendon]

only few frames don't use equilibrium nowadays

[quiet laurel]

if you run nourish you can easily live without equilibrium depending on the frame

but I use equi + nourish anyway just to have that insane energy econ comfort

[lean tendon]

nourish op subsume fr

[dry bane]

I never use nourish or equi and never have energy problems. Theres many, many other ways to solve energy probs on caster frames, and im really kinda sick of everyone immediately saying "you're wrong, use equi"

[lean tendon]

ez energy economy + viral

[dry bane]

Boring. You typos boring

[bold warren]

I have leftover energy on my Verglas Prime but IDK what mod to run

[quiet laurel]

I mean when it comes to efficiency there really isnt much left

energy regen is only good if you have a lot of it or use nourish

and using a subsume to fix energy econ is very inefficient

[lean tendon]

having alternatives doesn't make equilibrium not the #1 thing for energy economy

[quiet laurel]

(if the subsume doesnt do much else)

[dry bane]

Arcane energize, citrines 1, vorunas 2, spectro siphon....

[quiet laurel]

energize has a long ahh CD

[quiet laurel]

energize is nice to get an extra bit of energy but can only fix the energy economy of a few frames

yareli comes to find where energize is enough

but I also use equilibrium on her cause having the ability to regen energy is more important than just sustaining your own casts

[slate vale]

Yareli mentioned

[quiet laurel]

cause energy leeches and other mission modifiers exist

[lean tendon]

there are other ways for sure, but equilibrium is #1 and everyone has it

[velvet pulsar]

Wish we could overkill it if Mending Shot affected Equilibrium.

[lean tendon]

before the changes, you could argue equilibrium is not as effective but after the 2023 update it's just OP value

[fierce lark]

this is a wild take

the whole "im a hipster and refuse to use op things like roar and influence" thing i get, sure, w/e, if you hate overpopular things just because they're overpopular (for a reason) then you do you

but energy sustain fundamentally affects how you play the game, and equi+orb generation is just objectively the best source of it in most cases

[lean tendon]

and it's not like you're sacrificing things either

Equilibrium is -1 mod slot, sure, but you open up flexibility in other areas

so it equalizes in the end

arguably more pros than cons

[fierce lark]

it's -1 mod slot but you need to dedicate at least one thing in your build to energy sustain or you won't be able to use abilities

[lean tendon]

^ this

[dry bane]

Get a room you two

[lean tendon]

I would rather slot in Equilibrium than run dethcube or something

[fierce lark]

or you have to sac blind rage in a build that could otherwise use it, when blind rage is more than 2 slots worth of strength

[lean tendon]

no more arguments = time to do personal attacks and fallacies

[bold warren]

Btw would you drop anything for Archon Vitality in that build I shared or no?

[lean tendon]

my favorite

[quiet laurel]

the classic

[velvet pulsar]

Builds Discussion are doomed to become like this eventually.

Gotta restore it via asking your own question and moving on.

[fierce lark]

probably intensify

[bold warren]

Umbral Intensify?

[lean tendon]

well at the very least, we give logical explanations rather than just saying stuff like "I hate meta gaming" and "get a room you two" haha

[undone dust]

@fierce lark hey idiot do you want to know some cool yareli tech that only works when you're riding merulina so you're basically forced to endure one of the worst things in the game

[fierce lark]

yeah

[velvet pulsar]

...like why phahd scaffold isn't applying self stagger to my drifter when I'm using Vazarin, not unairu...

[bold warren]

Appreciate that 🙂

[lean tendon]

Strength isn't as needed for Protea

[fierce lark]

you definitely want archon vit so something needs to go

[dusky bane]

natural talent's an easy drop considering yellow shards exist

[bold warren]

Mind if I ask the reasoning behind why?

[lean tendon]

my only Strength source is Blind Rage

[fierce lark]

if they had yellow shards i would've said natural talent

[bold warren]

New Tenno. Not got Shards yet.

[dusky bane]

ah

do you have any arcanes?

[fierce lark]

your main damaging ability is blaze artillery, which is all heat damage with guaranteed heat procs

archon vitality doubles all heat procs, and heat procs in this game compound, they refresh the duration and add the existing stack's damage onto the new stack

[lean tendon]

I don't really know how to approach non temporal anchor builds but you probably just want a bunch of duration and range with a little bit of strength

[dusky bane]

sounds about right
also makes you rely a lot more on dispensary, since you can't just "un-use" the energy

[craggy niche]

I dont mind energize on some builds but normally I run nourish on alot of stuff so I can corroheat and do bookah damage and not waste a slot for equil or energize

[dusky bane]

I don't see equilibrium as a wasted slot tbh

[cerulean rune]

Temple idea : mod Blast on Lizzie, give slap Catalyzing shields and a topaz archon shards that gives shields on blast kill -> unkillable ?

[craggy niche]

I personally only ever run equol on orb generator frames

[lean tendon]

I use temporal anchor since I like the acrobat turret playstyle more than staying in one spot

[dusky bane]

almost must have mod on a lot of frames

[bold warren]

Yes but not very good ones probably?

[dusky bane]

companions kinda generate them for you tbh

[dry bane]

Cant take a joke it seems

[dusky bane]

should be able to get a few decent ones, depending on where you are in the story

[lean tendon]

now it's a joke

[fierce lark]

energize isn't even that good, it's a relic of the past when we didn't have good energy sustain and everyone had to use zenurik unless you could afford the 1k+ plat for a max energize

[slate vale]

Riding merulina is the best

[quiet laurel]

doesnt this only activate when you are not on shield gate

[lean tendon]

crazy prices

[dry bane]

I gave a list of a small fraction of theAlternatives

[craggy niche]

Nah I'm talking real orb gen like citrines one or the spidey tackle from whatserface

[fierce lark]

no i hate feet

[undone dust]

what

[pastel rapids]

Is there any other melee that can work better or should I keep harmony?

[dry bane]

But muh equi is too ingrained from meta gamers I guess

[dusky bane]

imagine hating on having energy 💀

[dusky bane]

it's not even expensive anymore lmao

[craggy niche]

Its perfect for channeled frames because rather than turning them into a problem everyone else has to deal with it supports your team

[remote mist]

Trying to pick between Grendel and Hildryn to grind out Follie's Hunt. Does Silence work well in this gamemode? Any other Helminths to consider?Inaros

[lean tendon]

even if it is not meta, it's the most accessible energy generation in the game since you get it for free in "The Teacher" quest

[near vortex]

Influence on Harmony?

[dry bane]

No no I SERIOUSLY meant to get a room 🙄

[dusky bane]

I just rocked revenant cause I was lazy

[quiet laurel]

harmony is a good choice for voruna, tho I'd slot afflictions instead of influence and go for status duration instead of viral elec

[velvet pulsar]

Companion triggering primary arcane or being able to "use" melee when riding merulina?

[pastel rapids]

yep

[undone dust]

companion triggering primary and! fortifier on your secondary (or archgun)

[near vortex]

Harmony is like
So broken with Afflictions

[velvet pulsar]

You don't need to use that secondary slot

Put fortifier on archgun, yes

[dusky bane]

god I wish they hadn't had nerfed that arcane for no reason

[undone dust]

yeah i added or archgun because i forgor they had arcanes LMAO

[frosty bone]

Is the helminth kavat any good?

[velvet pulsar]

Because you're stuck with pistol, better have more flexibility there

[undone dust]

this is very true

[fierce lark]

helminth charger is a kubrow, but no it sucks

at least relative to the other selection of beasts

[velvet pulsar]

They scale with enemy level

[lean tendon]

helminth charger is cool looking at least

[undone dust]

give it mecha set and itll be peak

[near vortex]

Helminth charger has aura

[warped eagle]

Is this good?

[frosty bone]

Oh I figured you could use the same helminth cyst thing with kavats too

[bold warren]

Thanks for the explainer

[near vortex]

I named mine Helen

[velvet pulsar]

Do u mean helminth charger, or do u mean inaros subsume with augment?

[bold warren]

Lotus Eaters but I basically got 2 Nodes to go until Steel Path, granted I may need help

[velvet pulsar]

Coz the later fits the description of "helminth kavat"

[dusky bane]

nice
zariman has a lot of good arcanes to grab

[slate vale]

Put dexterity on primary, secondary, and both archgun slots for free combo

[frosty bone]

You know how you have to have a fully grown helminth cyst on a Warframe and a kubro egg to make a charger?

I thought you could do the same thing with a kavat to make something else.

[lean tendon]

Zariman and Sanctum Anatomica Arcanes 🗿

[velvet pulsar]

I didn't expect this from a yareli main

[lean tendon]

great value

[bold warren]

Ugh. I probably need to farm some good Arcanes for ProtEA BEFORE I UNLOCK Steel Path right?

[slate vale]

Lol I've put that combo on my voruna prime loadout

[velvet pulsar]

(though I know about the combo duration tech, I don't use it coz I instead use Rauta with Furax Wraith)

[slate vale]

And meleereli

[fierce lark]

there's an "infected kavat" that you can get, you have to take your own kavat out into the plains, i think at night only

and then your kavat gets covid and dies

and you get a vasca kavat instead

[bold warren]

@dusky bane Yeah suddenly mentioning Arcanes has me panicking just a little

[dusky bane]

dw

also I'd recommend arbitrations before SP

it's a stepping stone that'll help you out

[dusky bane]

for her, molt augmented from zariman and arcane concentration from the old peace content are probably the easiest to get to fit her well
if you can't do old peace stuff, molt efficiency from zariman's even easier

it's just a bit more strength and duration, meaning you could even offload a strength mod from your build

[frosty bone]

They don't have to die, judging by the wiki

[dry bane]

Energize + lower energy max = one orb will give you enough to cast several times And the Other energy orbs stay on the floor. Unused and ready.
K no more

[bold warren]

What would you do for Volt Prime just outta curiosity Arcane-Wise?

[lean tendon]

By Balticurry's context of asking for help, you're recommending a baby tenno to get Arcane Energize when Equilibrium is obtainable super early. That's a really good recommendation on your part.

[dusky bane]

I haven't really played him in a bit, idk

[fierce lark]

this is either ignorance or bait and i'm no longer invested in trying to fix it

[bold warren]

I already have Equilibrium anyway

[bold warren]

I assume this wasn’t directed at me? I get confused easily sorry.

[dusky bane]

something like this I guess??
idk, my volt is so outdated he still has eclipse on 😭

[quiet laurel]

I think its just attention seeking

cause there is no way

[lean tendon]

And you should stick to it. You just need to be patient on the first 20 seconds of the mission and kill a few enemies until you have enough to cast Dispensary. After that, you won't have any energy issues anymore as you can cast Dispensary infinitely now.

[dry bane]

Its an example relating to knocking down energize as "useless " and "too old school". Read the context before replying

[lean tendon]

Unless, for some reason, your energy goes back to 0

[lean tendon]

that is true though

[quiet laurel]

it is true, back then energize was the shit for energy economy

[lean tendon]

arcane energize is sad nowadays

[quiet laurel]

now we have more things

and energize is 150 energy every 15 seconds if you get good RNG

[dusky bane]

it's still a decent "idk what to put here", but it's far from a must have

[quiet laurel]

and thats not good compared to todays standards

[lean tendon]

more or less better and accessible as well

[dry bane]

Still works just fine. One orb, low enery max. Energize pops and you're full, tons of orbs on the floor, no need to be glued to dispensary

[quiet laurel]

which frames have 150 energy vro

[bold warren]

[quiet laurel]

wtf do you mean one orb and full

[dusky bane]

such out of date advice bro doesn't even know a lot of protea builds subsume over dispensary

[quiet laurel]

like this has to be bait pls let it be bait

[bold warren]

Any recommendations on what Augments to farm for Protea/Volt Prime?

[lean tendon]

150 energy every 15s isn't full energy

[dry bane]

The player was a baby without subsume

Ah F it , im done.

[dusky bane]

and you recommend a 100p arcane to them?

[bold warren]

Personally I subsumed over Temporal Anchor because I don’t like it but that’s just me

[dusky bane]

your logic seems inconsistent

[lean tendon]

he has subsume

[viscid bane]

Any ideas for the last slot for the funny number plinx build?

[bold warren]

You clearly didn’t see I had Larva over Temporal Anchor 😂

[lean tendon]

he removed temporal anchor

[dusky bane]

ye, that's fair
just locks you out of the augments

[velvet pulsar]

Finally

[quiet laurel]

for protea her turret augment is nice for a more active playstyle and less turret casting
her 4 augment is also pretty nice for armor strip though not needed much (build dependent and depends on whether you like her 4)
for volt his 1 and 4 augments are very good

[dry bane]

AGAIN, that was a reply about energize being useless, and NOT directed at the new tenno

[bold warren]

Yeah I’m aware, I just don’t like the fact that I have to constantly cancel the TP.

[dusky bane]

remind me
does synth charge work

[dry bane]

Ffs context, read text history

[dusky bane]

ok, you're trolling now lmfao

[dry bane]

Bye.

[dusky bane]

you keep flipping between "energize is good for them cause they're new" and "that wasn't advice for the new guy"

actual trolling

[lean tendon]

I mean, he recommended Augur Message earlier

[viscid bane]

Apparently not. But even then I dont have it somehow

[dry bane]

Accidents happen

[quiet laurel]

augur set on protea staaaank

[dry bane]

Ffs accident

[dusky bane]

tbf, that's not an obvious interaction

I didn't know about this either until I was corrected

[quiet laurel]

baro still here right? time to buy primed flows

[velvet pulsar]

They should fix it rather than an ally brief respite griefing u

[quiet laurel]

I also actually understood the issue after studying how shield gate works in great detail

[lean tendon]

bugframe can be stealthy and obvious as hell

[quiet laurel]

I mean its not a bug

its intended game mechanics being anti synergistic with each other

[dusky bane]

sadly yea

[dry bane]

Which I 100% knew about, but keep biting my head off for momentarily forgetting I guess 🤷‍♂️😅

[velvet pulsar]

To DE, the word "unintended" gets thrown allowed loosely.

So us community can also play that game.

We can call out stuff unintended as we wish and annoy them.

[gray quarry]

I wish it didn’t stank, I like using the augur mods

[lean tendon]

is it? I thought the interaction should be the same as to how Adaptation and Caliban's passive work where the highest should apply. For Protea, shield satellite should give better shield gate but instead augur/brief respite overrides and you get the weaker shield gate instead.

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, her 1 is then not working as stated

[lean tendon]

At least, that's what I initially think of it when I read the interaction.

[gray quarry]

DE fix protea!

[glass salmon]

any builds for coda bass (for uriel or whatever)

[lean tendon]

well intentional or not, it's still sucks lmao

[dusky bane]

ye, IMO her nades should override augur/brief while they're ON you
and brief overtakes when the nades run out

[quiet laurel]

I mean the problem is that when you are on shield satellite shield gate and cast a shield satellite again during the invulnerability, the invulnerability gets removed cause you gain shields again via the augur mod, which also resets the shield gate
this can be fixed with enough casting speed tho so that you cast faster than your augur shield gate fcking you over

[dusky bane]

generic plasmor-style build

[sly island]

Uhm guys I'm curious what's the signature weapon of uriel give to Uriel?

[velvet pulsar]

Vinquibus?

[sly island]

Yeah

[glass salmon]

do u mind if u would show me an build or something?

[dusky bane]

https://overframe.gg/build/948505/

[lean tendon]

ah because there's a delay on the satellite shields activating and augur/brief respite is instant after you cast

[fierce lark]

no lol you're good

[glass salmon]

ty

[sly island]

I wonder what's is passives give

[fierce lark]

nothing

[dusky bane]

none

[fierce lark]

vinquibus does nothing remarkable for uriel, and is probably worse on him than average because uriel doesn't want to melee and vinquibus wants you to melee

[sly island]

Alr do is still one I should keep farming for?

[dusky bane]

sure, it's cool

[lean tendon]

it's a fun weapon imo

[sly island]

Alr

[fierce lark]

the gun is good, not amazing but workable in high lvl content, and has a gimmick that's actually interactive and fun to play with

[velvet pulsar]

And his flight mode won't benefit for getting headshots as easily as regular gameplay

[fierce lark]

well, the gun/bayonet combo, both halves are good and the synergy does work to make it a lot better

[velvet pulsar]

It's also banned from ExA

Probably also circuit

[viscid bane]

Anyone?

[fierce lark]

also you can use slam multipliers to buff the light combo because last hit in it is a slam

[sly island]

Alr I was wondering cuz I run high survivility and high nuke and dmg build with uriel

[velvet pulsar]

Synth Charge doesn't affect the alt fire BTW

[wide verge]

A good riven for burston?

[spring radish]

question for Oraxia's Coda Bassocyst is this a good mods for her?

should i replace thhe magnetic strafe to something else ?

[bold warren]

Thanks for clarifying. The next hurdle I have I guess is what to focus on farming. Cause I wanna do Arcanes but I am still not super confident my Protea Build can take on Level 85-ish Enemies and same with higher level Zariman Bounties etc

[fierce lark]

if you do pick up archon vitality (can be left at rank 0), and you have decent energy sustain, you can probably kill any level of enemy at any time, including up to levelcap (not that you should ever do this unless you're bored)

ability nukes that involve heat status stacking scale exceptionally well

[bold warren]

Why should it be left at R0 vs Levelled Up?

[fierce lark]

to save mod capacity and credits/endo

[bold warren]

I see. Whats the difference in terms of like its effects or whatever if I may ask?

[fierce lark]

the only thing ranking it does is give you more max hp, which shouldn't matter on protea cause you're gating with shield satellites

[velvet pulsar]

Protea doesn't really benefit higher health that much

[fierce lark]

(ideally)

archon vitality's ranks are completely identical to regular vitality

[velvet pulsar]

Unless you wanna use something like Hema augment.

[bold warren]

Would Archon Intensify make Protea any Stronger

Same question but for Volt

[fierce lark]

i dont believe protea has any way to restore hp, orbs from dispensary shouldn't count

volt definitely no

archon intensify requires a way to directly increase your hp via an ability

usually by healing, max hp increase works in some cases

or most, i honestly don't know what all max hp things work with archon int

[gray quarry]

No

[gray quarry]

No

[coral crest]

she is tuned around shield gating and has no ability healing

so youll have to waste aura on combat disciplie or run hema

and find a healing subsume

aka yeah its not worth it whatsoever

[thorny wolf]

hey can someone send me a setup for hound for a primer and arcane hotshot stacker

[bold warren]

I see. Good to know.

[viscid bane]

Trying to hit dmg cap on Plinx and cant get past this number. Advice?

Or is this damage cap?

Having doubts cuz number is not negative

[fierce lark]

thats dmg cap

[dusky bane]

you can check the logs to see, but that's the highest number the game can display afaik

[viscid bane]

how do I do that?

[viscid bane]

huh. thought the number is supposed to be negative

[dusky bane]

I honestly don't know

never cared enough to do it myself

[fierce lark]

idk what causes the number to go into negatives, but 2,147,483,xxx is cap

[warm obsidian]

Been seeing alot of Novas with Dispensary

[golden scroll]

Could someone give me a good build for nidus

[solar reef]

2.1b is the visual damage cap

key word being visual

[bold warren]

Thank you for explaining, it’s just right now my biggest question is. What do I do next to prepare for harder content?

Some direction on what to do would be good

[dusky bane]

odd

[dusky bane]

arbitrations for galvanized mods

then arcanes available from general gameplay
then gun arcanes from SP

[quiet laurel]

ARBIS RAHHHH

[bold warren]

Yeah I’m working on that next tbh but thanks. I just, ugh. Yeah cheers.

[dusky bane]

other than that, just find something you want and try to get it

[warm obsidian]

Had to double check if we had a Protea and there's no way in hell that Wukong or Dante will have it

[dusky bane]

lol

definitely an odd one, regardless of who has it

[bold warren]

I hope you can understand why I ask this? Cause I’m 2 Nodes away from having Steel Path but they are both quite high level and IDK if I’m ready.

[dusky bane]

don't worry about it

we all tried SP once, while not ready
got our butts beat and had to improve builds

you'll get to a point where it'll be easy to ya

[fierce lark]

i never understood the hype behind dispensary

outside of like arbis

who wants to sit there and wait for orbs\

[bold warren]

I want to, prepare before I get my butt whooped to be quite honest.

[bold warren]

I’d rather have Dispensary over Temporal Anchor but I’m probably in the minority in terms of not liking Temporal.

[fierce lark]

well thankfully you get to have both

[bold warren]

True but I’m using Larva over Temporal

[warm obsidian]

Tried making Temporal work but just ended up staying Put with Blaze artillery

[viscid bane]

Honestly if you know how to shield gate and have somewhat decent gun builds you're more then ready

[gleaming vapor]

you get double capacity when you put an orokin catalyst on the frame

[bold warren]

Fair enough. I don’t feel it but fair.

[quiet laurel]

and even for arbis its not used anymore

[fierce lark]

rip

[warm obsidian]

Just a safety net / Equilibrium fodder

[quiet laurel]

ngl for stationary builds BB is much better

only reason dispens would be used is for Econ proc

but who tf uses Econ outside of arbis

[viscid bane]

It's just nerves speaking, once you complete a couple of missions you'll be fine. You got this bro/sis

[twin jetty]

How should i build follie? Im running range and damage rn with the umbra mods for survivability, would that be good for sp?

[woven perch]

Are they hard to get

[gleaming vapor]

not rly

[hard sparrow]

Is it somehow easier to red crit higher level enemies?

[gleaming vapor]

farm up some plat

it’s like 20p

[viscid bane]

She doesn't need much strength since her damaging stuff is scaling from enemy level. Just need enough to cap her 3 and then go full range + duration.

[warm obsidian]

Been eyeing on this build for a while

https://overframe.gg/build/668191/protea-prime/tempest-tyrant-blazing-artillery-dps-tempest-barrage-helmith/

[quiet laurel]

no but certain enemies have flat crit chance buffs when shooting their weakspots

[hard sparrow]

I just played a 1999 bounty against infested Techrot enemies and I was red critting out of nowhere

Lvl 230 enemies

Completely solo too

[fierce lark]

pretty much all of the "guaranteed crit body part" spots are on enemies from newer content so they're all higher level stuff by default

[viscid bane]

Yea they have those aforementioned weakspot crit chance increase

[hard sparrow]

If that’s true then it would make sense why it suddenly red critting them but not sp hydron grineer

[quiet laurel]

did you play solo

[hard sparrow]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

most if not all of the techrot enemies have display monitors which act as weak points, and also give you a flat +100% crit chance bonus when hit

automatically raising whatever crit tier you hit by one

[fickle whale]

Put all on red, easiest way👀 I just had to, cant let this opportunity slide

[quiet laurel]

I am just realizing how far my settings are from default

[hard sparrow]

Im running Burston Incarnon and have 120% crit chance so that would explain it

[fierce lark]

only 120%?

not running critical delay or wha

[fickle whale]

anyways what you actually could do is play on high cc/cd, use crit multi abilitys like mag bubble or even some arcanes as enervate for example

[viscid bane]

Look at bro subtly flexing his plat savings

[twin jetty]

Oh really??? Thats awesome ill redo my build

[hard sparrow]

I do have crit delay🤔

[fierce lark]

not using the crit evo?

[hard sparrow]

Base crit by 22% yeah

[fierce lark]

oh maybe you were looking at the base gun stats

incarnon base crit is 28%

[hard sparrow]

I’m looking at my built gun stats

[fierce lark]

if you scroll down you can see the incarnon form stats

[fickle whale]

for primary you also could use vulklok to inhance cc with vig mod set, always a good choice tho

[hard sparrow]

Its 150% on incarnon

[fierce lark]

ye that sounds more normal

[hard sparrow]

If I wanted funny red number could I swap to Galv scope and deadhead?

[fierce lark]

deadhead doesn't affect crit chance but it's still good to have

[hard sparrow]

I’m running merciless rn

[viscid bane]

Keep deadhead, swap MS for Acuity

[fierce lark]

gscope is good for funny numbers

[hard sparrow]

Does Galv chamber not work?

[viscid bane]

Not with Acuity

It disables MS

[hard sparrow]

But having acuity is better DPS wise?

Ah I see it’s a crit chance mod

Funny red number

[fierce lark]

multishot doesn't work on the aoe portion of aoe hitscan weapons, which is half of the incarnon, so acuity is better than usual on it

the aoe dmg benefits from the headshot crit on acuity even tho the aoe itself can't headshot, but not the bonus damage

it is better dps on headshots, it does charge the incarnon significantly slower though

since it disables ms

[hard sparrow]

That’s a rough one

[viscid bane]

Put Gilded truth for fire rate to fix that

[hard sparrow]

I have it on there now

[fierce lark]

primed shred better if you don't have the armor to get punch through from the 2nd evo

[viscid bane]

Here's the dmg I'm doing with Acuity

[viscid bane]

I prefer truth for extra parkour velocity

Plus acuity removes multishot anyway from the other 2nd evo

[hard sparrow]

Yeah I’m getting stuff like that too my build I was using before it just better I think idk it just feels easy to bullet hose and stuff just dies

[woven perch]

Can you do the same thing to weapons

[gleaming vapor]

yep

[magic crescent]

Steel path nezha build please

[viscid bane]

With Acuity you really gotta go all in on headhsots,it heavily punishes you if you miss them

[viscid bane]

Yes, Orokin Reactors for frames, Orokin Catalysts for weapons. Both double the mod capacity

[hard sparrow]

Yeah I used a separate loadout slot for it I’ll play with it a little bit

[fickle whale]

secondary disruption build or you wanna do something else with him?

[hard sparrow]

Holy platinum Batman⁉️

[sonic folio]

Should i go primary acuity or multishots for burston is the gap any noticable

[fickle whale]

always multi on burston, acutiy not worth it

[green gyro]

what is this

why subsume over 4

[fickle whale]

cuz 4 not working on demolisher

[green gyro]

what's the point of nezha then

you even have the slide augment😭

[fickle whale]

one taping lvl cap demos after using chakram on them