builds-discussion

[sacred wind]

🫡 kk , and what weapons do you recommend to use with kullervo?

[dusky bane]

2 augment alone is enough

[undone dust]

god that is awful

[little panther]

depending on how many of the speedups you get

[solar reef]

you triumbral kullervo anyways for bellacose, might as well run persistence too

[little panther]

no speedups = 8hrs

[dusky bane]

eww

[rocky mason]

Persistence is such an overkill lmao

[solar reef]

oh absolutely

but what else do you even slot in? You dont need fury

[little panther]

survival ~5-8hrs+ (depends on speed ups + additional time if doing a fissure)
disruption ~2-3hrs solo/~1.5-2hrs in a group (45 rounds)
void cascade ~1.5hrs solo/~1hr in a group (107 exolizers, additional time if doing a fissure)
sp circuit ~1.5-2hrs depending on loadout/group (18 rounds)
alchemy ~5-8hrs (~155 crucibles, later rounds can start taking a little longer, additional time if doing a fissure)
for level cap

[dusky bane]

as if triumbral isn't

[rocky mason]

Energize idk

Battery

[solar reef]

i’d argue those are overkill

[rocky mason]

He got good armor

[solar reef]

everything you slot is overkill

might as well pick the braindead easy one that gives you like 5-10 seconds of death-denial

[rocky mason]

Those are for removing mods from the build, persistence doesn't remove anything from the build

That's why I called it overkill

[grim olive]

Literally any weapon will work

Popular melees are Nami Solo, Syam, Magistar, Praedos, Okina

You could use Tenet Plinx, Burston, Furis (you'd probably want roar subsume tho)

[solar reef]

not even losing out of mod slots if its for the benefit of bellacose

[dusky bane]

I just rock this
comfy enough without dumping slots for survivability

[rocky mason]

What does persistence do to help bellicose?

[solar reef]

nothing, but they go hand-in-hand

[grim olive]

You don't need rolling guard on Kullervo as his 2 grants status immunity

[sacred wind]

🫡 okay thank you for the help

[dusky bane]

it's an "oh shit" slot

[solar reef]

you already build for tri-umbral to maximize bellicose

Leaving a slot perfectly comfortable for persistence

[bold warren]

If I wanted to keep a high rate of fire on Boar Prime, do I still need to use Critical Deceleration?

[rocky mason]

Not there, he doesn't need persistence because of all the overguard

[dusky bane]

seems like a waste for like 12% more strength

[solar reef]

12% more than augmented, works instantly making it better for fast missions as well, and once again, gives you the option to use Persistence

[grim olive]

I like personally having high range on Kullervo (I think I have 220%?), 200% strength

Duration idc cuz I spam his 1 to tp anyways

Efficiency, I avoid blind rage

[solar reef]

Like it or not its a 5-10 second window after overguard breaks where you just dont die

is it needed? Absolutely not

[rocky mason]

No lmao

[solar reef]

is it comfortable though? Hell yeah

[rocky mason]

You won't die in that window normally

[grim olive]

I use Energize + Persistence for max comfort

[solar reef]

If your overguard breaks that health is absolutely dropping

You will die

[rocky mason]

In what content again

[solar reef]

Steel Path?

[rocky mason]

No?

[fierce lark]

persistence kullervo is only for levelcap cascade

there is 0 reason to use it otherwise

[solar reef]

and yet its comfortable everywhere

[fierce lark]

comfortable in what sense

[solar reef]

If it can do all content? thats plenty reason

[fierce lark]

you press 2 and generate 40k overguard

you’re putting a condom on a condom

[rocky mason]

I mean if you don't want to press 2

[solar reef]

in the sense that if my controller dies, I look away, or something happens where I just stop looking?

[fierce lark]

atp massive skill issue

[solar reef]

idk man every now and then I want to grab a coors

[grim olive]

I'm too lazy to change my Kullervo build ngl, i do have a Steadfast Energize build for a Wrath of Ukko augment tho, i might try making it better at higher levels

[solar reef]

I’d like to be able to do that and just sst my controller down

come back and be able to continue right off

[rocky mason]

I'm pretty sure you still survive looking away for a bit even with just armor

Until you remember to press 2 again

[fierce lark]

idk how else to say this but

“it lets me afk so i can go get a drink” isn’t really a metric we use to measure something being good lmao

[solar reef]

I’ve said this a bajillion times

Its for comfort

[grim olive]

It may not be good, but it is as hell cozy
Which is good for me

[rocky mason]

That's me than comfort at that point

[solar reef]

I’m not claiming its the best setup for generic steel path

[rocky mason]

But well, I run preparation and dispensary on my comfort wukong build

[solar reef]

But its what I use at level cap and also lets me run away to get a drink when I want at base steel path

[fierce lark]

what you actually said was “you build x and x” implying it’s a normal thing to build triumbral persistence kullervo

[solar reef]

like this isnt something yall should be getting all hissy over

its the best build for my specific use and is also just generally comfortable in the content level yall are hell-over-heels for at base steel path

[grim olive]

Oh I tried to speedrun void captures with a max range and max efficiency Kullervo and I got 50 sec mission clears

I don't have Titania :(

[rocky mason]

It's just an obscene amount of investment for no real reason if you're not planning on going to level cap, which is not good to recommend to people

[solar reef]

I do go to level cap so I dont see the issue here

[grim olive]

Ok I started it and I said it "easiest" way to play him was Triumbral + persistence + augment

[fierce lark]

and btw at any level of starchart steel path you can press 2 and stand next to something and still afk for its entire duration

[dusky bane]

he doesn't need THAT much strength
he doesn't need health or persistence at all

[rocky mason]

The "recommending to other people" part

[solar reef]

I wasnt telling anybody it was the best setup for him at that level

[fierce lark]

this is probably technically true, but it’s just as easy as playing with “augment”

triumbral persistence does nothing, fullstop

[grim olive]

I'm just too used to my Persistence Smite build for lvl cap ig 😔

[fierce lark]

unless you actually go afk without pausing and with enemies shooting you for over a full minute

[quiet laurel]

is this brainrot in builds discussion I see

[dusky bane]

ye, that fiber is like
a wasted mod slot completely

[grim olive]

I mean... Kullervo over 200% strength is already overkill

[rocky mason]

I run battery to make it do something

[dusky bane]

fair

[grim olive]

What else are you gonna build on him

[dusky bane]

wasting a mod AND an arcane
to do what flow does

[grim olive]

Ok but

Arcane Battery + Overcharge!

[rocky mason]

Yeah

Or bulwark

[dusky bane]

overcharge?

[rocky mason]

Primary arcane

[grim olive]

Primary Overcharge

300% mutishot at 1000 energy

[dusky bane]

meh

[grim olive]

I think

[fierce lark]

more strength is never bad, energy, duration, range so you can 1 farther

[solar reef]

for sniper setups people really like it

[rocky mason]

It's very much not meh

One of the strongest things DE invented

If you can run it

[graceful yoke]

whats better the felarx or phantasma prime

[grim olive]

Imma take a step back and say
There's no correct way to build Kullervo
Only funny ways

[rocky mason]

Like sniper kullervo

[grim olive]

🤤

[dusky bane]

both great

[grim olive]

I actually need to try sniper Kullervo for once
I've only ever used gun platform

Which is just persistence + smite...

Bahh Kullervo has too many options, I'm just gonna go play Garuda and turn my brain off

[warm obsidian]

Anyone has a Burston Incarnon build?

[grim olive]

I don't have my build available rn but avoid Galvanized Aptitude, cuz bonus doesn't effect radial damage

You can build it, you just won't get full effects

[coral crest]

Pressing 3 for every brain cell sacrificed

[sharp ember]

Best lvl cap build for loid floof ?! 1!? 1

[dusky bane]

Burston Acuity (Single Target focus): https://overframe.gg/build/505444
Burston Multishot (General Use/Crowd): https://overframe.gg/build/894412/

[grim olive]

Oh I have that exact multishot build

[dusky bane]

it's not a very unique build, half of the rifles use something along those lines

[warm obsidian]

6 Forma

[dusky bane]

could probably do less

[grim olive]

Primed Shred and Gilded Truth are kinda interchangable

[warm obsidian]

Yeah gonna replace Galv Scope

[grim olive]

Scope has funny red crits tho :(

[dusky bane]

galv cope fr fr

[warm obsidian]

Low-key
Aiming is the last thing you'll need for Mobile

[sharp ember]

Are any of the weaps worth picking and building and not just for mr?

[sharp ember]

Gng don't sell us like that

[grim olive]

I'd argue Amalgam Serration is replacable? Cuz it's just QOL and x1.25 damage when combined with the arcanes?

And replace deadhead with merciless if you aren't hitting heads

[warm obsidian]

Nothing really

[dusky bane]

they're all okayish

[sharp ember]

Not for me then

[dusky bane]

yoinked from baro recommendations in the other server

I grabbed the cleavers cause I had the other 2 already

[warm obsidian]

4/10 Auto aim + Auto fire gets you random headshots

[sharp ember]

Yeah they def for collection only

[dusky bane]

nah, they're fine

influence made like 80% of melee good

[warm obsidian]

Does this work :v

[dusky bane]

I'd assume so

[warm obsidian]

Assuming no shields

[solar reef]

Only damage to health

[slate vale]

Just inflicting yourself with the curse for fun?

[slate vale]

Lemme quickly check

[blazing bear]

Does anyone know of any good panzer vulpaphyla build?

[slate vale]

No it does not work

[karmic badger]

i think it does, but the heat proc is quite literally cursed, iirc people were saying it bypassed armor and DR

[warm obsidian]

:[

That heat proc is nothing for Valkyr

[dusky bane]

https://overframe.gg/build/220091

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[little linden]

Hey y'all just got nezha and looking for advice how to stack em out

[primal tangle]

whats the best way to farm shrill voc

[old marsh]

He has couple builds. One relies on Pyro/Verse subsume. Other is general one

[dusky bane]

the highlight is the 4 aug one imo

[old marsh]

Meanwhile that build doing shit dmg in Descendia coz it doesn’t work on most special enemies

[little linden]

So I definitely have home stacked out for ability strength duration range efficiency

[dusky bane]

use something else if you know you'll face a lot of specials

[little linden]

I originally wanted to build up zephyr but that whole floaty passive thing is gonna take some time to get used to

[dusky bane]

I literally don't play zephyr cause of her passive
I hate it so much

[little linden]

Bro frfr I want to love her but she just ain't making it easy

[winged talon]

Does anyone have a recommended build for voruna that makes use of both her augments?

[gray quarry]

Don’t think so, but I could be wrong

[summer crest]

is this good?

[raven knoll]

Which one is better?

[solar reef]

I only recognize tox

I cant read what i’m assuming is german or dutch

whats Mehr? Is that Multishot?

[dusky bane]

MS tox CD vs CD MS FR

[drowsy verge]

what would happen if I put jades subsume ability on voruna’s 3rd and she has 500% ability strength and 145% range?

[dusky bane]

I can't see a reason as to why

[drowsy verge]

For fun 😊

[solar reef]

left and stop rolling

literally perfect

maybe not actually?

I dont know both are insane

[solar reef]

why?

she already armor strips

[raven knoll]

Yeah thats my Problem haha

[solar reef]

armor stripping also doesnt help her 4

As its slash damage based

[drowsy verge]

I just thought it’d look cool

[raven knoll]

On the left is 118% multi-shot, 120% poison, 140% critical damage and a negative 45% magazine size; on the right is 153% critical damage, 118% multi-shot, +70% fire rate and a negative 55% zoom.

[solar reef]

4 Spam builds dont generally like subsumes

[wraith sinew]

Knell enervate?

[solar reef]

altair cant read german so I cant get you great gradings or price checks

I’d just check warframe market place for similar listings and see whats listed higher

Are you using this for yourself?

or looking to sell

[raven knoll]

Here Is it written perfectly in english @solar reef

[solar reef]

its a hastle to grade like that

[raven knoll]

For myself

[solar reef]

If you dont use tox i’d go with the fire rate

If you do use tox i’d go with the tox

[raven knoll]

I'm playing on viral

[solar reef]

so i’d take left

[raven knoll]

It's in German, but that's okay, you can still see the mods. @solar reef So I think I should probably stick to poison for viral.

[sharp ember]

Kryokeugh idk what that sounds so funny to me

[raven knoll]

Prime Mod for cold

[eternal prism]

Secret slash torid

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

[raven knoll]

Vital Sense/ Galvanized mods/Critical Delay/viele acceleration/Primed cryo rounds/Hunter Munitions and the torid riven Mod

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

[solar reef]

those who bleed

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-shush-quiet-be-quiet-gif-6099369941990730874

[vestal parcel]

Too much dmg?

[wary forge]

Galvanized aptitude is a good mod for Torid

LOL

[raven knoll]

?

[scenic glen]

Could someone give me a burston incarnon build

[opal leaf]

Torid doesn't need GALV apt as it doesn't work (idk the English for it... But as far as I can translate it) in the Incarnon mode... It became additive

Correct me if I'm wrong

[eternal prism]

Corr + augment + bane

[opal leaf]

Would Burston benefit in like.... A Ms build?

[hexed lodge]

Tbh, even if it's additive, it's still a nice SC bonus

[opal leaf]

Yeah but you can slot better ones so that's why it's not really needed

You can, sure, but you can slot a better one

Idk why I repeat that twice

English is hard......

[eternal prism]

Multishot? U not have any other way

[opal leaf]

Acuity for sure

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

[opal leaf]

Oh cmon I only use Burston using acuity hahahaha

[raven knoll]

Thats Correct, yes.

Any other suggestions for what could be used instead that would be better?

[opal leaf]

Let me put my buuld here waiy

[eternal prism]

Idk co mod for status beam not bad

[raven knoll]

Sure

[eternal prism]

For aoe clear serration better

[scenic glen]

Please🙏 or just some advice bc mine is bad

[eternal prism]

Corr+ crit+ augment+bane mod+multishot

Deadhead arcane

No co mod

[hexed lodge]

oh 100% agree with you, i was js in case ppl just want to use an optimal build instead of min/maxing

[scenic glen]

I did this but its buns

[wary forge]

Aptitude doesn’t apply to Torid incarnon btw

[opal leaf]

Here.
Corrosive Blast Build with no Galv Apt

[wary forge]

Just run a 60/60 mod

[opal leaf]

Oh that's good to know

[eternal prism]

Doesn't this give base damage?
I couldn't find anything on the wiki

[wary forge]

That’s good 60/60 eletric is gonna be better then stormn bringer if u have it

[eternal prism]

Or u mean about multi co

[solar reef]

Yes! But the overall DPS will be lower than it would be for Acuity.

[opal leaf]

Will do it tomorrow

[solar reef]

Ms is perfectly normal to see though on a burston build

Its just a matter of comfort

[wary forge]

I’m pretty sure it just straight up did nothing for Torid

[eternal prism]

You won't be shooting only at the head anyway. There's no point

[solar reef]

this is a skill issue

[eternal prism]

Sorry that the enemies die before I can aim at their heads

[opal leaf]

Huh

OK that's good to know

Bc a lot of vets raged as they see me running Burston in Ms hahaha

What would be the elements for it tho, typical Viral Heat?

[solar reef]

just always aim at head height

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691608041967059044/1384575805253746708/attachment.gif

[solar reef]

Viral Heat unless you have another source of viral

[opal leaf]

All I remember is it just add Base damage instead

Still no point and doesn't work on Torid incarnON

[eternal prism]

One-shots even in legs>oneshots only in head

[opal leaf]

My comp has it but I'm sure a Viral on a gun would be viable

[wary forge]

Didn’t even need viral to kill

[raven knoll]

Thats My just

[wary forge]

Just pure heat magnetic is good to help with single target

[opal leaf]

Slash?

I love Slash but it's not a good mod for Torid

Go Corrosive Blast, or just straight up copy my build 🤣

[opal leaf]

For Burston?

[wary forge]

Just go corrosive blast

[wary forge]

Ye

More so for like higher level stuff tbh

[opal leaf]

Noted, will try Burston on Harrow tmr

[raven knoll]

And where do I put my Riven mod? Haha

[opal leaf]

Replace that Apt with a Riven Mod

[eternal prism]

Secret heat burston🥀

[opal leaf]

Then go ur typical corrosive blast build

[wary forge]

Incarnon is inate heat so

Only like “problem” burston would ever have it’s killing the initial target before it ramps up

[opal leaf]

OK so what I'm understanding is

Obviously Burston would lose DPS if not Acuity build

But Ms is still viable, correct?

[raven knoll]

So i Copy this right now and look

[eternal prism]

😭

[opal leaf]

How much would it lose? Like would I lose like.... A lot of DPS?

[opal leaf]

Yee

[wary forge]

Don go acuity

Dont

[opal leaf]

Explain? I am curious as that's the first i heard

[wary forge]

You just want multishot burston is a 600 round full auto machine gun in incarnon

Why would u not want multi shot

Just go deadhead and argon scope if u want to headshot

[opal leaf]

Fair point

[brittle sleet]

No not really it's still absurd either way, just if you want to max DPS then you want to get comfy with Acuity

[opal leaf]

OK so Multishot but I use Galv Scope and Deadhead

Gotcha

[wary forge]

Ye

[opal leaf]

Might go Multishot bc it's th first time I heard from a tenno to don't go Multishot

[old marsh]

Not even against SP Uriel?

Any suggestion on how to deal with him quick

[wary forge]

Acuity is a pretty mid mod only really good on certain snipers

And like single target high damage stuff really

[old marsh]

Ye but what exactly. Like Multishot viral heat crux? Or something else?

[opal leaf]

I go my Mentor's way

Finish it off using Ash haha

[raven knoll]

@opal leaf I copied it and used my torid mod instead of the serration, correct?

[solar reef]

its literally been mathed out before
final DPS from acuity is higher

its just a matter of comfort

[opal leaf]

I would suggest use Serration

First off before I judge

Can I see your Riven?

[solar reef]

it does fine either way but if you want to do as much as possible you would use acuity

this is specifically for burston as value may change from weapon to weapon

[opal leaf]

Oooo so Multishot and Acuity are quite used

It's Jusf Acuity have more capabilities? Am I correct?

[fierce lark]

acuity burston is perfectly fine

[opal leaf]

Gotcha

[opal leaf]

In this sentence, you usually go MS on Burston

[eternal prism]

I'm pretty sure that in practice this leads to a loss of damage. yes, on paper it's clearly more, but there are enemies whose heads are somehow hidden and they're simply impossible to kill, like, for example, 1 demolisher on mars

[raven knoll]

118% multishot, 120% poison, 140% Critical damage and -45% Magazine capacity

[eternal prism]

and besides, it's unlikely that you'll be able to kill at a sufficient distance

[solar reef]

The amount of enemies you cant headshot are so few in the cases I’d use it so I dont really mind

[opal leaf]

Damn that's..... Bad and Good

Gray area of some sort, let me see your build and so that we can help u

[solar reef]

If you’re at a lower level or base steel path you’ll probably get more use out of multi shot since it one shots there regardless

[eternal prism]

but buston solo target why u use it for clear🥀

[solar reef]

its literally the perfect roll

[raven knoll]

Sure wait a mom

[solar reef]

it does both

[wary forge]

Does he know

[eternal prism]

it's terrible in clear

[fierce lark]

half of the incarnon form’s damage doesn’t benefit at all from multishot, and the aoe portion’s non-headshot damage still benefits from acuity’s crit on headshots

[opal leaf]

Fr? - mag cap is quite..... Bad for Torid right?

[solar reef]

no?

[fierce lark]

acuity is good on it

[opal leaf]

Oh

[solar reef]

Incarnon forms are unaffacted by magazine modifiers

[opal leaf]

Oh aight

Noted

[solar reef]

this is also why you’ll never see them on Cyte

they are unaffected by his ammo

[wary forge]

Acuity is not good on burston lmao

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/no-limit-to-larp-gif-11577996250524935683

[violet silo]

acuity is absolutely good on burston

[opal leaf]

OK so I have 2 sides of Burston tbh

Others say MS is good for Burston and Acuity too

But then Acuity is... Useless

[raven knoll]

@opal leaf Sorry, it's not updating in the Warframe companion yet.

[fierce lark]

i have used both builds, both of them are good and both of them behave very differently

[violet silo]

MS burston and acuity burston are two different builds

[solar reef]

Acuity is statistically better. Multishot is also just very usable

[opal leaf]

Show me the stats haha

[solar reef]

Both are fine

[violet silo]

Multishot is better qol imo

[solar reef]

Zachs just baiting

[violet silo]

less headshots, faster charge

[solar reef]

What i’ve been saying, its just comfort

[raven knoll]

It says radiation must be magnetism

[opal leaf]

Bro XDDD

OK Let's fix this, DM me

[fierce lark]

acuity charges incarnon a lot slower, it feels a little worse

it kills significantly faster on headshots though, and it also makes incarnoff do enough damage on headshots to kill pretty much anything

[opal leaf]

Wait it does????

[fierce lark]

idk which part you're referring to but yes

[opal leaf]

"Acuity charges the Inc slow"

[solar reef]

Naturally it charges slower because less bullets are being thrown

[fierce lark]

incarnon charging is affected by multishot, if you remove the multishot it's gonna charge way slower

[violet silo]

yeah cuz more bullets = more headshots

[fierce lark]

same thing with punch through, incarnon charges on each individual hit, not shot fired

[violet silo]

acuity means no multishot, so less bullets and less headshots but far more impactful shots

[opal leaf]

OHHHHH

Nah I'm using Burston WITH ms on Harrow fr fr

[violet silo]

heatful, I should say. incarnon form doesn't have impact

[opal leaf]

Bless the Void

[solar reef]

why would you not use Acuity atp

[violet silo]

comfort?

[solar reef]

you’re playing the headshot frame

[fierce lark]

i switched back to ms burston after playing with acuity for awhile because it feels better, but acuity simply does a lot more damage if you land majority headshots, especially when you're in incarnon form

[solar reef]

no no I getvthat but its harrow

Its THE headshot warframe

[violet silo]

they should make scourge but secondary

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[solar reef]

Ballistica incarnon I beg

[violet silo]

secondaries are alr better, primaries need it more than they do

[solar reef]

Im hoping either stug or ballistica get something for utility like that

[opal leaf]

Heh jokes on you.....

I rarely do headshots on Harrow hahahahahah

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

2 builds. One for HS and one without

[opal leaf]

Acceltra hahahaba

But I always fo both

Harrow have Body Crit and Headshot Bonus Crit for a reason

[violet silo]

nah stug needs to be a dual tox lvl weapon

[solar reef]

not exactly the point but yeah

the idea is just that if you miss you still benefit

[violet silo]

trash clearer + ST thrax killer

cover the room in suspicious blobss

[solar reef]

not headshotting also really makes no sense when his augment is right there

[fierce lark]

harrow's headshot crit is 4x body crits, and if you don't subsume it thurible is 4x energy restored

so ideally you'd be always aiming towards heads

[solar reef]

its capped at 200% though iirc so dont invest to heavily on strength

body shots are at 50%

[fierce lark]

high strength is still good

affects your subsume, affects the fire rate & relaod speed from 2, affects the shield gained from 1 if you're using that for survivability

also reduces the amount of damage you need to take during covenant to get the max buff

[solar reef]

I think my build is just enough to reach CC cap and everything else is duration

For as much security on Evade as possible

[fierce lark]

the cap is the same whether you have 10% strength or 500%

strength just changes how much damage you need to block to get there

[solar reef]

I am aware

oh wait

guess im wrong idk

i havent even looked at it since evade dropped

[opal leaf]

Yup hahahahaha I utilize it

[opal leaf]

How many strength does Harrow need?

[solar reef]

i guess it depends on the subsume

[fierce lark]

the base amount is 1.5% crit per 100 damage, if you're base strength you need to take about 3400 damage during covenant to get the max benefit

with blind rage, umbral intensify and molt augmented, you only need to take about 1k damage to cap crit

[solar reef]

a pretty minute detail at level cap so I guess I just never noticed

[opal leaf]

I have an Omamori for that extra/overkill comfy

[opal leaf]

Hmmm

Help

This is my Harrow build rn

Should I remove Augur Message for Umbral Intensify?

[solar reef]

Also keep in mind that Arcane Ice Storm is activated by his 1

[fierce lark]

eh preference

[opal leaf]

Oh I have 3 replaced by Omamori so yeah

Anyways what should I do?

[fierce lark]

if your subsume is omamori then strength loses a ton of value

[errant marlin]

can someone give me advice on which one of my prime frames to build?

[opal leaf]

Hmmm why?

[fierce lark]

all strength does is increase the amount of charges you get

which is convenient, but atp it's doing the same thing as duration for a different ability, and i'd rather just have more duration

granted, i would never run overextended on harrow

he barely needs more than neutral range

[solar reef]

As someone who uses -Range, I recommend staying at neutral

[opal leaf]

Hmm.... Alright I see

[opal leaf]

Ohh... Ok noted

[fierce lark]

narrow minded is dangerous unless you are specifically playing evade

then range is useless

[mighty flare]

omamori?

[fierce lark]

am i mistaken?

[mighty flare]

yes

[solar reef]

its still quite handy for Arcane Ice Storm and shield gating

[fierce lark]

oh wait yeah strength actually does nothing

the amount of charges is random

[opal leaf]

So Neutral

[mighty flare]

strength does nothing for omamori except increasing the heal/shield restoration

[solar reef]

unless you’re using evade, yeah

if you’re using evade you can go negative

[mighty flare]

ahem, "larp"

[solar reef]

but its still uncomfortable

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-wojak-soyjak-marcvin5-gif-13903021270190271130

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-massage-gif-22032184

[opal leaf]

Well no I don't have evade yet so probably go neutral or a bit more for that CC capabilities

[fierce lark]

if you're playing evade everything is standing still anyways, you can sit on top of them with neg range and whip them

but i wouldn't use ice storm on evade harrow anyway

[solar reef]

i just want the duration

[fierce lark]

you press covenant, wait for damage to hit w/e it needs to, press evade, and play duck hunt

for the rest of the mission

[opal leaf]

OK ok so in my build which should I remove and what should I do?

[fierce lark]

you're likely spending more time casting condemn to keep up ice storm than you're actually gaining from ice storm's duration

[opal leaf]

My plan is use Narrow Minded

Leave stretch and replace Augur Message WITH augur reach

[solar reef]

maybe, none the less the build isnt changing

i dont really need anything else there

so I don’t mind

[fierce lark]

this is what’s on mine

[opal leaf]

Huh so literally less range, lesser than Dura at least

[dire terrace]

Any prime boltor build?

[fierce lark]

i have 160 range, enough to comfortably hit anything in front of me with 1

and a decent range for buffing teammates

seeing as i only play mp

bit of range also helps with stacking covenant, since damage to teammates under the effect also counts

[opal leaf]

How about this for my build

I'll remove Overextended and replace it with Narrow Minded

I'mma remove Augur Message and Replace A. Reach instead

How was it

[dire terrace]

Anyone?

[opal leaf]

Wait let me search

[dire terrace]

hmm?..

[opal leaf]

It's usually the same Multishot Build

Galv Chambers
Serration
Critical delay
Vital Sense

And an elemental mod

[dire terrace]

hmm...

[dire terrace]

about the incarnon

[wary forge]

Looks fine I mean really harrow doesn’t need crazy strength since his base scaling is pretty good more so depend on ur subsume

[opal leaf]

Oma.... Mori :33333

That aside, thanks, I'll switch it around and see how it works

ThamKS!

[wary forge]

U don’t even need a subsume on harrow tbh

[fierce lark]

ignore that, the boltor is not the stalhta

[wary forge]

I personally won’t go omarai you’re already tanky enough with just his kit if anything add like a recharge mod or something to feel a bit more safe

Or smth like rolling guard

[solar reef]

stahlta

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-bomb-explosion-boom-gif-18347534567261621962

i miss multi acuity stahlta on harrow

[fierce lark]

that looks more boltor coded

stalhta looks fun

one of these years i'll go farm it

how can a multico nailgun be bad

[opal leaf]

That's true

[solar reef]

it was so silly back when 1999 first came out

only one to two stacks of viral would result in this, with only a few extra status applied

Billions BEFORE mass priming

Multipilcative Crit Chance + Multiplicative CO

yummy

[opal leaf]

Damn 1.2 bil with 2 exclamation marks

[solar reef]

three

[coral crest]

Stahlta is just Quellor for cowards

[solar reef]

it had like 1200-1700% cc

it was pretty stupid

[midnight linden]

What shards is everyone using on voruna?? I was thinking green for ability dmg on corrosive status or maybe electric for the same?

[opal leaf]

Ooo

[solar reef]

for a 4 spam you’d use greens, oranges, and purples

[bold warren]

If I don’t have Merciless Gunfight, how should I build a 0 Forma Kuva Nukor whilst I’m kinda poor on Forma?

[solar reef]

I’d leave one slot for casting speed shards

my recommendation would be two go all in on one color for Status -> Ability DMG so you can hunt for that specific status

[midnight linden]

Oh I see radiation as well okay thanks! 😊 I accidentally put 4 tau purples for crit damage to find out they don’t affect wolf form 🙁

[bold warren]

Can anyone help? 🙂

[solar reef]

its a sign to build for melee platforming

its her better playstyle anyways

[midnight linden]

☝🏼🙂‍↔️ I support the furry community and will play her like god intended

[bold warren]

@solar reef I hope I’m not disturbing you

[solar reef]

i cant help with that idk

Just get your forma up gang

[midnight linden]

Should I do purple since I have a bunch of em now tho I actually have like 20 tau of each color

[solar reef]

you can
I’d use greens since archon continuity also just makes tox procs give you corrosive as well

[bold warren]

IDK what to do either bruh

[solar reef]

hell if you want you could use a mixture of them to make it look pretty

[wide verge]

which one is better=

[midnight linden]

You kno what dawg that was so real of u time to make her a furry and lgbt June is coming up 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[mighty flare]

green is most consistent

[solar reef]

i dont use her 4 and never will so take my words with a grain of salt

[solar reef]

im more of a bacon cheddar turkey guy

blt’s arent my thing

[solar reef]

depends if you want viral or corrosive

both are mediocre, keep rolling

[wide verge]

Which one would go better for sale?

[solar reef]

neither, keep rolling

[wide verge]

Ran out of kuva

[ember surge]

To the kuva mines with you

[compact cypress]

havent spent a lot of time but i find her fun
1 forma, need to change that aura slot soon but what should be swapped here?

[mighty flare]

mag likes her magnetize augment over counter pulse

[sonic folio]

Meg prime

[compact cypress]

which one?

[mighty flare]

magnetized discharge: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1489188519929970838

[compact cypress]

ah okay

so should i swap that in and maybe drop some range for strength?

[mighty flare]

youd put it over counter pulse or stretch
i reccomend over counter pulse

[bold warren]

Growing Power buffs yourself right?

[hasty zenith]

Any tips?

[scenic glen]

Is this worth grinding for? Burston incarnon ping me if u have any tips or smthing please

[eternal prism]

Serration over scope

[sonic folio]

s-cope

[karmic badger]

Nah, he's already got base damage with deadhead

[eternal prism]

And augment over shred

[eternal prism]

And

[karmic badger]

Honestly biggest change would be to swap from corrosive to viral

[eternal prism]

How does he plan to kill if the stacks run out?

[karmic badger]

By not running out

Its deadhead, he's got 20s per stack

[sonic folio]

Also critical delay is a bad mod most of the time you basically cut your dps overall

He probably has nourish

[karmic badger]

Ehh, its an improvement over point strike

[sonic folio]

No

[eternal prism]

Maybe he also need hunter munition for slash

[sonic folio]

Larp

[karmic badger]

Nah that's the acceltra

[sonic folio]

Hunter munitions big in 2017

[eternal prism]

But today 2016

[sonic folio]

Have you seen the new open world they added let's go to earth

[eternal prism]

But I live on earth why do I need to go there?

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691608041967059044/1384575805253746708/attachment.gif

[dire terrace]

anyone with a good prime boltor build?

and the incarnon evolves as well?>

[brittle sleet]

https://overframe.gg/build/471843/boltor-prime/boltor-incarnon-raw-viral-heat-variants/ should cover your basics

[glass salmon]

any voruna prime builds?

[solar reef]

melee platformer or 4 spam

[scenic glen]

I got this build from youtube😭i got nourish tho

[glass salmon]

4 spam

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-gif-25901726

[sonic folio]

Looks alr imo but if i changed something it would probably be critical delay-> point blank and maybe swap corro to mag

[scenic glen]

Im also planing on using burston with eisp so im just eondering if there any build that could work better then others

[sonic folio]

Heat already does 50% armor reduction i kinda see it as obsolete

[glass salmon]

dang okay..

[twin grove]

Does anyone have any build for gauss prime, focusing more on maximizing thermal sunder

[scenic glen]

How do u make mag again?

I forgot

[eternal prism]

critical delay give more then point blank

[sonic folio]

There is a 1999 mod that gives magnetic + crit damage put that and add hammershot alongside

[opal leaf]

4 spam is just not that popular, and they usually subsume the 4

[sonic folio]

You literally lose 20% dps losing rate of fire in a bullet hose gun is unacceptable

[scenic glen]

So what everything do i change coild u please write it out so i can ss so i dont forget?

[opal leaf]

Which gun?

[eternal prism]

it still give 200k more dps for burston

not matter

[sonic folio]

You lose more than gained

[eternal prism]

okay

[opal leaf]

Vile Acceleration exist tho to counter that

Imo I never had problems with Crit Delay + Vile Acceleration

[eternal prism]

if u not want lose fire rate use reinforced bond

[opal leaf]

And that too

[sonic folio]

Soon

[opal leaf]

Crit Delay is just good tbh

Idk I like it

It's a good tradeoff

[wary forge]

I mean truth is just better then vile it’s 10% less fr but doenst have the 15% dmg pen and also has the truth effect so I mean just no reason to use vile over it

[eternal prism]

I think he's speaking in general terms, not about burston

[wary forge]

Ic

[wary forge]

Just run a fire rate mod

If you want to cope and say u can’t fit one then just run arcane acceleration on your wf 🤷‍♂️

[eternal prism]

and atleast without secret viral
which is absolutely everywhere

[sonic folio]

Magnetic capacity +hammershot @scenic glen

U get like 20k more sustained dps if overframe speaks truth

[eternal prism]

secret overframe dps checker

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191157234261033150/1402045900876156948/togif.gif

[wary forge]

Hammer shot

[sonic folio]

That is on paper in reality mag does even more overall

[wary forge]

I guess hammer shot on burston like lowkey isn’t bad

[eternal prism]

🥀

[wary forge]

But like 100p for one mod

[eternal prism]

over bane only maybe

but bane anyway better

[sonic folio]

Couldn't think of aptitude

[scenic glen]

Ty

[eternal prism]

aptitude useless for burston

[sonic folio]

Or maybe bladed rounds but let's be real

[wary forge]

Aptitude doesn’t do anything on button besides give it 80% status

[sonic folio]

Yeah there isn't much to choose

[wary forge]

60/60 mods

[eternal prism]

his build was fine

serration over scope and it will be fine

scope useless mod also

[sonic folio]

ok buddy orokin

[eternal prism]

For the mod to work, you need to use weapon

with unstable stacks that work separately

It would be better if it was deleted

[sonic folio]

Mf can't aim with hitscan bro

🥀

[eternal prism]

for solo target weapon im not should aim for stack it

Why do I have to kill 5 enemies before I can kill demolisher?

[sonic folio]

Kill 5 demolishers sonion

[dusty dragon]

is garuda supposed to be a shield tank or something? how do you play her? what does she do?

[wary forge]

Just body shot

[eternal prism]

garuda should be caster

[sonic folio]

Dude is a rich bomboclat milaniyer haven't you seen his plats

[dusty dragon]

how do u keep garuda alive?

[eternal prism]

vazarin

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

u can use catal shields also but it take 1 slot

and just... spam skills

[mighty flare]

Shield gating or invis companion

[wary forge]

Only noobs use vazarin

[dusty dragon]

i can not keep garuda alive for the life of me

[eternal prism]

only giga chads use vazarin

[patent skiff]

Aight. Theoretically, which Vauban ability would you subsume out?

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297398761550516337/1478146901386989851/Screenshot_2026-02-28-08-37-19-004_com.zhiliaoapp.musically-edit.gif

[wary forge]

His 1

[patent skiff]

Any particular reason? Does the tether from his 2 proc his passive on enemies caught in it?

I’m just leaning on 1 or 3 but both just feel useful

[opal leaf]

His Subsume slots are his 3 and 1

Either way it's usually the subsume slots

[rocky mason]

You can also play without subsume

[wary forge]

His 1 is only really good with the augment

[opal leaf]

Yup

[patent skiff]

Oh I know, I just have a mind of trying something out

[opal leaf]

Pair it with his 3 and you have a more bigger nuke

[wary forge]

It depends on how you want to build him really

If ur doing a full gun platform build there’s really not reason to keep his 3

[patent skiff]

I don’t do levelcap if that makes it easier kek, I just like to both shoot and use his abilities

[dusty dragon]

i dont get, why are people running armor but no health on garuda?????????

[rocky mason]

Arcane battery maybe

[wary forge]

Vauban as a caster scales to level cap cause stuff like vig swap works on all his abilities

[opal leaf]

Still the same

Subsume his 1 or 3 with smth else like Nourish (as nourish applies to his 2) and then go full range and Duration and voila

Ur good to go

[patent skiff]

-# yeha but my attention span doesn’t scale to levelcap

[wary forge]

Nourish is very good on him cause his 2 can proc it

[rocky mason]

Do they have arcane battery on? She's good for energy tanking and also for primary overcharge so that might be it

[patent skiff]

Fair enough, that sounds silly

[wary forge]

If ur just using him as a platform then ye just subsume the 3

[patent skiff]

-# I never bothered to get standard grendel this might be a good time

[opal leaf]

Still the same

Even if you mention or not mention lvl cap, it'll still the same

Bc Vauban's damages (2 and 3) scale on enemy levels

[wary forge]

Yep

[rocky mason]

If you have nokko the missions are easy

[patent skiff]

Halfways into Nokko, still getting bps

It’s been a while tbh

[opal leaf]

So either way, you'll be in a position of deciding to go to lvl cap or not

Ur playing Vauban XDDD THE CC King himself!

[patent skiff]

Worth every plat for the heirloom thanks praise the french

[opal leaf]

Praise the French indeed

He is my first Main so I know much about him hahahah I explored his builds a lot

[dusty dragon]

ohhhh garuda's an energy tank

[versed harbor]

nah

[ruby perch]

doesnt bubonico have infinite ammo....?

[spiral chasm]

yeah but the postives arent really much either

[ruby perch]

yeah i know, but im surprised u can roll stats that "dont exist"

[rare lichen]

infite ammo maximum yes, not infinite magzine capacity

[spiral chasm]

yeah u can roll any gun stat on any gun

like neg proj speed is really good on histscan

but terrible on any proj based weapon

[ruby perch]

guhh...

it has punch through built in i think

[rare lichen]

bubonico has low riven dispo, at best you could go fire rate and multishot

[ruby perch]

i already have firerate high with wisp/uriel

and with hotshot uriel/nova also red crits

[spiral chasm]

shes just rolling for the love of the game

[ruby perch]

idk how much dmg i do but highest bullet i saw was i think 200k?

ha

[magic crescent]

Xaku level cap build?

[toxic cypress]

anything i should change?

[eternal prism]

Armaments

And munitions

[mental night]

think I got my Voruna Prime as good as im gonna get er

[delicate lodge]

can someone send me a wukong build?

[regal pike]

Hi there! First time back on Warframe in like 2 years. CAn someone give me a set of builds for Limbo Prime?

[wary forge]

Minus ammo max doesn’t do anything for bubonic it’s the bis negative for a riven but like it’s not even worth to go a riven since it’s so low dispo

[upbeat turret]

uuh so which one should I keep? thank you

[wary forge]

Trash it for endo kompressa is a primer

[tired flame]

buget / early game / any build for mesa prime ?

[wary forge]

I don’t play Mesa

@mighty flare

[mighty flare]

yes?

oh mesa

[magic crescent]

And a xaku prime build if you can please

[hexed lodge]

anything with +status chance, +multi, and/or +fire rate... sadly the Kompressa isn't a damage dealer weapon, it's mainly a primer
||"akzually", yes ik enervate... if you truly want a dps secondary, use something else ||

[magic crescent]

For level cap

[mighty flare]

early early mesa, don't need maxxed out vitality or equilibrium, can either

• stretch + muzzle flash for cc
• anything you got like strength/duration mods or parkour velocity mods
• wait for corrosive projection from nightwave & use whatever aura you got like dreamer's bond

if you meant like no arcanes early

[tired flame]

where to get arcanes from tho ?

[vernal stratus]

Changed my orthos mod build a bit, getting better with stronger enemies but still struggling so any help to make it better will be nice (I got a galvanized mod for temp, cause idk much on them)

[hexed lodge]

Remove Seismic Wave, it's antisynergetic with Blood Rush.
And rank up your Galv Steel, what's the riven?

[magic crescent]

Do you have a SP xaku prime level cap build?

Or a general use sp build at least

[bold estuary]

how do you build khora to where she can actually use high strength subsumes like roar?

everything I see she has 40% strength and a non strength reliant subsume

[mighty flare]

i ran this, polarities are messed up, should be

• corrosive projection in the aura
• then another strength mod, augur reach, or the new augment in the other slot
• i use zenurik focus for energy/qol, take a decent weapon like torid/boar/whatever to help until you hit cap

[mental night]

quick question, does Archon Intensify work with Vorunas 3?

[bold estuary]

it drops health orbs doesnt actually heal you

[old marsh]

probably older builds that used to use the stat stick method. u can use roar and have like decent strength. like 150-ish.

[old marsh]

u need to lose hp to trigger it. not really worth it imo

[bold estuary]

stuff like lavos one or uriel three for example do actually work with it because they directly heal

[vernal stratus]

I can’t afford to rank up the mod yet. here’s the riven, I heard it’s not much but it’s what my friend gave me for a orthos riven, since I’m not big on the riven stuff

[hexed lodge]

You don't have to max it, probably 1 or 2 ranks off the max should be fine for galv steel.

riven is ok tho, not the best, not bad

[vernal stratus]

I have the few galvanized mods for melee that they hadx should I add the others or just this? The galvanized ones is where mods start getting confusing for me XP

[hexed lodge]

No, it's understandable.
The only real suggestion i have for you now, it's replace seismic wave with a toxin mod, and just rank up the galv steel mod.

then in the future you can begin to outsource/optimize, like combo duration etc

[dense olive]

Who has an AC-130 Coda Bubonico build for Uriel

[vernal stratus]

I got the primed toxin mod, should I add that or a basic one?

[hexed lodge]

obviously Primed if you have mod capacity, but it's not mandatory, basic it's enough too

[vernal stratus]

Ye I got 20 of mod cap left, it’s in the same situation as the galvanized (not ranked) so it won’t be much but I’ll slowly rank it as I get more credits

[hexed lodge]

or forma, whichever comes first

[vernal stratus]

Yee

[bold estuary]

this feels about right only thing im not sure about is the whipclaw

archon cont is only there because its higher level than my primed version

and since i have space to spare might as well

[graceful yoke]

so im a returning player and didnt know about kuva weapons, accidentally stumbled upon this, i knew kuva bramma was good so I just spawned it, but I noticed the element, is it good ?

[bold estuary]

its not sadly low % (25% is the lowest) and cold isnt ideal for a bramma

[graceful yoke]

yikes, so what do I do then? just suck it up and claim it? can't really progress through steelpath, i was on my way of doing so lul

[bold estuary]

yeah pretty much the bramma is also not really that good anymore anyways so its not a huge loss

[opaque meadow]

got the ephemera too nice

[vestal parcel]

Roga build lemme know if it needs work

[mighty pelican]

bramma itself is still good, they just nerfed the max ammo of all AoE bows and similar weapons greatly

so if you can play around it its still a good weapon

[tired flame]

buget / early game / any build for mesa prime & her guns ?

[tired flame]

and for her guns ?

[uncut torrent]

What weapons should I use w voruna?

[solar reef]

Are you melee platforming?

If not then your weapons dont really matter

just bring a melee you like and you’re set

If you are Melee platforming, then I would recommend either something thats MultiCO, Heavy attack focused, or Slam focused

[neat harbor]

just zaw that shit

[solar reef]

Contagion Zaws are also a great option I just never recommend them since it feels a little counter-intuitive to her kit

If you enjoy contagion zaw the have at it

[rich glacier]

funny how the normal version is better for priming than prime version.

[bold warren]

What mods do I run here?

Also what mod do I add to this

@wary forge Can you help?

[wary forge]

whats up

[wary forge]

real

[steep kestrel]

what are the thoughts on blast vs gas ? i feel like i get a lot more out of gas compared to the faster TTK if they are grouped from blast ?

[wary forge]

well u cant go gas with something like viral or cossorive

with blast u can go corrosive

gas is good its just pretty specific

blast is pretty much slottable on every weapon

[earnest saddle]

i would recommend primed redirection, maybe umbral intensify as well

[steep kestrel]

ok just tested blast on my miter, from the recommendation of a rando and it was good with grouping but much worse without compared to gas

[wary forge]

thers no picture for me\

[wary forge]

just go viral heat

the inate bleed dots that it does are gonna get the most value from viral

[bold warren]

Need build help if possible

[wary forge]

can u send the pic

[bold warren]

Yeah one moment

[wary forge]

for some reason its not showing up

[wary forge]

yeah ii mean that looks fine u want more range tho

[bold warren]

IDK how to get more range tbfh

[wary forge]

and u also dont really need strength for the turrest just go archon vitality

[dense abyss]

Is worth to place shield + shield recharge for Venari? Or just Primed Pack Leader do the job?

[bold warren]

I don’t HAVE IT YET

[wary forge]

if ur getting a lot of kills then pp is gonna be good

doesnt really need anything more

[wary forge]

ok thats fine

[bold warren]

So what do I use in the meantime?

[wary forge]

u also dont really need equi

since dispensory is energy

[fierce lark]

pack leader should be more than enough

[bold warren]

Cause if ya haven’t noticed, I subsumed Larvae over her Temporal Anchor

[bold warren]

I just don’t know wtf to do for a Protea Build okay? I’m sorry.

[wary forge]

just range and duration

[bold warren]

Meaning I should use what mods?

[wary forge]

turret build is good its just ur better off using them for primers

[bold warren]

Also wdym you don’t need Strength

[wary forge]

u dont need strength

[bold warren]

So what mods do I run. Please show me.

[wary forge]

ok

[steep kestrel]

this is the strange gas miter build lol

[wary forge]

0 forma build

i guess go archon vitality if u want but tbh u dont even need it

[wary forge]

this is something

[steep kestrel]

dont ask me why but it works very well

[wary forge]

hm is not good on miter

it basically hasd an inate hm with its bleed

[steep kestrel]

ill try it without but it procks off the radial attacks from incarnon

[wary forge]

its just gonna be better with viral heat bro

[tired flame]

what should i put in that open slot?

[wary forge]

just put in rime rounds over hm and helfire over elementalist

[tired flame]

ur talking with me ?

[wary forge]

nah

the miter guy

[tired flame]

do u know anything messa

?

[wary forge]

nah i dont

[tired flame]

🙁

[worthy ruin]

why does this guy's corrosive get green but mine gets red?

[tired flame]

because u dont have the right polarity , he have universal polarity

[worthy ruin]

so I need to use forma?

[tired flame]

if he used forma then yes ,

[fierce lark]

or put it in a different slot

then you get white corrosive

holy that’s aura im cooked

forma a different slot with , then swap it with the aura

then you can keep the for something else like intensify

[worthy ruin]

uhhh its an aura mod

[fierce lark]

yeah i was on my phone and didnt see the whole thing

you can forma the right polarity on a different slot, then use the actions menu to swap them

anything that has at least 1 forma can swap the polarities around freely

so that way you can keep your instead of switching over it

[bold warren]

What does a good Energy Regen Grimoire look like?

[solar reef]

as much multishot and fire rate as possible

after that i’d just build for status priming

[ember surge]

Stretch

[dense abyss]

Arcane Fury works with Khora's Whipclaw?

[cinder isle]

Hey when I am looking for a Kronen Riven Mod to buy (I play it with Melee Influence, so focusing on Electric), which stats are good?
Like how many crit rate and crit damage on it is good?

[wind hound]

This is a build question for Voruna / Voruna Prime but if I subsume an ability over her 4th do you still get to use the Ulfrun survival deal where he dies for you?

[bold warren]

Is this an acceptable build for Protea?

[mighty flare]

No, ability passives are locked when subsumed over

[calm hornet]

As a really new player (MR3) what mods should i invest endo into? Is status effect mods helpful for me or should i target multishot and base dmg with crit?

[earnest saddle]

the latter probably, you'll generally get more mileage out of the 60-60 element mods than the 90s

[calm hornet]

im currently just using cold and poison for viral on the thornbak, i seen its good and it definitely works well. but the status chance is only 36% so not ideal

[opal leaf]

You kinda need to build for both Multishot, Base Damage, Crit and Status effect

[opal leaf]

Oh it's ok

36% is a lot

[calm hornet]

Okay, good.

Its nice the thornbak comes with orokin catalyst as well capacity definitely needed

is the bane of corpus mod good ?

[opal leaf]

Umm I don't use faction mods a lot

In my opinion it's a waste of mod slot. It's just me

But it can be used if you had a problem with Corpus. That would require you to switch for every faction tho

Some mission have both of the faction in one mission

[calm hornet]

yeah that sounds very finicky

[opal leaf]

Yup

[calm hornet]

Im currently just using

Infected clip - Rank 2
Serration - Rank 3
Cryo rounds - Rank 2
Point strike - Rank 4
Split chamber - Rank 2
Speed trigger - Rank 3

tried not to go too crazy with ranks on some cos of better ones in the future

[opal leaf]

That's nice!

You can max them if you want, it's best to rank them hahaha

[calm hornet]

i have 555 endo at the moment i find it quite scarce.

[opal leaf]

Eh it's been like that for new players

My endo farm is literally arbitration hahahahah which I doubt u have access

[calm hornet]

probably not, I've only just unlocked mercury a couple hours ago

[dense abyss]

What good Helminth to place in Khora with a loot focus build?

[slender vine]

Side note but DE treated her so good with omni aura and 4 polarities

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's ok

[calm hornet]

what do you recommend to prioritize mod upgrades out of my current ones ? Just so i know i don't waste them lmao

[opal leaf]

Yeah, Serration and Split Chambers are good so I suggest focus on upgrading those first

[glossy current]

so would persisntace work for corvex and what else would i need to run with the persistance tanking

[opal leaf]

Tri umbral mod
And smth to trigger 700 armor for persistent to work

Aight gotta go for a bit cya

[glossy current]

but doesnt he have that baseline

[opal leaf]

Idk, I didn't know Qorvex, still trying to farm him

But that's what the Tri umbral mods are

Aight ciao!

[calm hornet]

cya, thanks for the help/advice!

[bold warren]

This an ok build?

[lyric imp]

how does this looks ?

[rocky mason]

Looks good

[grim shale]

Anybody have a good build for khora’s strangledome?

[bitter current]

how does this looks ?

[mild herald]

Should i do left or right for eidolon terralyst hunts?

[opal leaf]

Change and swap around the mods to make Corrosive Blast

Kinda like this

[bitter current]

gotcha thank you

is Corrosive Blast more universal?

[opal leaf]

It's just the most used and best combo for torid

[opal leaf]

Also, follow the order on how I put the elementals so that it'll switch around

[bitter current]

gotcha thank you. One last question should i keep rolling that riven or keep how it is

[opal leaf]

Nah ur riven is perfect

Harmful negatives? Yup that's a good one

[bitter current]

ok bet, thanks for your input

[opal leaf]

May Harrow bless your guns in your fight

[warm obsidian]

Any Wisp builds

[west night]

Need help with Sevagoth Prime. I want to learn how to play him so bad, but I don't know what to ad/remove. I feel like everything I try to do is just not enough, especially to keep him alive. If anything sneezes on him, he dies. The damage is ok, but could be better. But my main problem is survivability... I would appreciate tips.
First is Sevagoth's build. Second, Shadow Build. Thrd, Shadow Claws. The Shadow is also very fragile and I can't revive Sevagoth with it FOR THE LOVE OF ME... I feel so dumb, honestly. I can get my Mirage to Void Cascades but can't run Murmur Survival with Sevagoth...

Also the mods in portuguese are Sevagoth's augments

Also, options for weapons and companions are welcome. I tend to stick with the same weapons for all my frames, but who knows... Maybe I'll find something that really fits Sevagoth.

[opal leaf]

If you want to make Sevagoth strong get his 2 augments

I forgot their names, but he has 2 augments that helps it

Guns can be whatever, like a trash killer to get the energy back and spam 2 1 again on sev

I usually don't use his shadow as I replace it with Roar

[wind hound]

Ty for the advice 🐺💙

[near vortex]

you don't need dark propagation if you aren't running Roar on Sevagoth
I think Shadow Haze is always good though

[west night]

I'm using the two augments with roar over his 4

Like I said. The damage is ok. But he dies with anything that touches him.

[opal leaf]

Ooooo

U need survivability

[near vortex]

slot catalyzing shields and an auger mod on pistol

[west night]

I even ent to buy brief respite for the first time to try doing shield gate... Maybe I still need practice. I never tried shield gating

[near vortex]

that solves it

[opal leaf]

Then idk, I can't figure out his survivability too

[near vortex]

or brief respite cata shields

[opal leaf]

That would require you to spam his abilities tho

And he is energy hungry sooo.... How would you counter that

[near vortex]

grimoire

[opal leaf]

It's one thing I can't figure out

[opal leaf]

Grimoire?

[west night]

I was thinking blue shards... Still not sure about the shards

[opal leaf]

Why

[near vortex]

or put energy economy over arcane avenger

[near vortex]

helps with energy econ

[west night]

How would the grimoire work? I don't use it as much

[opal leaf]

Like a enegize or smth right?

[near vortex]

Tenet Glaxion also an option

[near vortex]

alt fire into a group
profit

[near vortex]

mhm

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's the reason I quickly move on when accidentally deleting Sevagoth bc I don't use him anymore hahaha

[near vortex]

shadow also helps energy econ but you aren't using shadow

[opal leaf]

True

I have more cooler frames to use

[near vortex]

shadow should probably have Preparation

Lemme find Ninjase shadow build for Roar version

[west night]

Okay

[near vortex]

Probably want Natural Talent on there if you don't have casting speed on Sevagoth in shards

[west night]

I dont. I kinda dont feel the need of casting speed on him. But if that helps with the shield gating, I can give it a try

[opal leaf]

It does help

It can make you cast faster, and no time wasted

[west night]

Alright. I'll try the ideas tomorrow, I'm quite sleepy rn

Thanks guys

[vague berry]

energy nexus or equilibirum?

what would you say is better value

[cunning peak]

you guys know if melee afflictions counts for the attack that does the knockdown, or only attacks after the knockdown?

[opal leaf]

Better value? Wdym better value

[vague berry]

nvm someone told me nexus was really bad

[opal leaf]

Bc it is

[vague berry]

a few acutally

[opal leaf]

Do Equilibrium, it's better than Energy Nexus

[vague berry]

yeah thats what i am doing now

[old charm]

It counts for the attack causing the knockdown. Its like an extra hit that does the stacking.

[maiden cargo]

whats the max energy require for the new arcane that gives multishot per energy?

[rocky mason]

1000

[maiden cargo]

works with miter inca mode right ?

[hexed lodge]

You are probably off to bed but... If you keep having more Sevagoth questions, we'll be glad to help you on this thread
https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1429852785251455016

[abstract axle]

Lowk any Valkyr build is a level cap build, she's indestructible

[zealous forge]

what in the world is going on here

[cunning peak]

i think something to do with mods being calculated in order from left to right, top to bottom. But idk the details

[zealous forge]

i mean yeah i know how they're calculated. it's probably something to do with the rounding of the '27.5' on transient fortitude

[abstract axle]

Definitely the culprit.

[wary forge]

i did it chat

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-shocked-gif-9885796698302419555

[cunning peak]

at 67, makes more sense to just have spare chromas to forma different ways. Or just slot everything with omni forma. That's nuts

[wary forge]

yep

i have another one i use for weapons platform so i dont have to change shards

[normal folio]

Is this good?

[brittle flax]

Is sancti magistar builds still worth investing, i have a heavy attack build on valk and i was thinking i may aswell put a magistar on considering i have the valk build set up

[fierce lark]

both versions of magistar are slam weapons and want the incarnon adapter

[undone dust]

light attack influence magistar
trust

[novel bear]

I’ve never understood using valkyr as a melee platform instead of just using her talons

[hollow scarab]

anyone got an sp follie to steal?

god fashioning her has been hard cuz her ink parts

[novel bear]

She’s pretty simple
You want cast speed somewhere for her 1
Decent energy econ
Optional roar over her 4 and precision intensify to buff her 2

[lean tendon]

gangplank cosplay go roar build and oneshot enemies with the barrels

[hollow scarab]

so no str or anything then?

[mighty flare]

Should be examples: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051

[mighty flare]

Yes strength

~200% str is good

[lean tendon]

at least 200%

[novel bear]

Only need 180% for barrels to oneshot with roar

[lean tendon]

I guess so if you're not trying to kill level cap thraxes

unless ninjase's calc on the strength is wrong

180 normal enemies and around 200 for level cap thraxes due to overguard

[zealous forge]

she's pretty easy to build tbh

[mighty flare]

Pretty sure the issue is prevalent from the start

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-thats-bait-photoshop-gif-26646069

[woven perch]

I’m kinda new to the game is this a decent build

[gray quarry]

I’ll never understand it either

Her talons are right there and don’t need an incarnon adapter to deal incarnon levels of damage

[gleaming vapor]

not rly ngl

slot continuity over heavy impact and streamline over redirection

also put dreamers bond in aura

[hollow scarab]

how can i make this better? and also i have a riven that im still rolling. what should i roll for to replace smth?

[tidal parrot]

which weapon is it actually?

[hollow scarab]

oh tenet diplos sorry

[tidal parrot]

i dont use the tenent diplos so ill let someone else let you know whats good or bad but i do notice you have 2 cc and 3 sources of damage so you could potentially swap some of those for smthn else to do better but again idk how the diplos is built to begin with

[hollow scarab]

noted. im also trying to get the bonus % up but just have been unlucky lol

[gray quarry]

Tenet diplos damn I spent so long looking for the right weapon but it got answered sooner

[undone dust]

imagine not knowing off stats alone 🙄

[gray quarry]

[unique flower]

Soo can someone tell me the hype around condition overload and melee influence?

[tidal parrot]

condition overload = tons of damage based off already super easy ways to apply statuses to enemies. melee influince is a 20m (30? idk its late and im not looking it up rn XD) aoe with no LoS check that hits hard and spreads a stack of each status on a enemy onto other enemies

[sand swift]

Can Oberons 1st ability not one shot things?

[tidal parrot]

iirc it does % based damage but you can use roar/viral stacks/ orange shards for ability damage to take it far enough to 1 shot

[velvet pulsar]

Regular cases, just a synergy of a status melee.

Special cases like projectile melees, CO is multiplicative to them.

So normally CO doesn't apply to AoE damage of those projectiles, but this negative scenario gets countered by influence because when you direct hit an enemy with that boosted damage, influence proc will transfer that high damage to all other enemies in 18m range irrespective of line of sight, without any damage falloff, which is better than an AoE.

[tidal parrot]

but i think it is capped at like 70% or smthn like that of thier max hp, forget the exact value off the top of my head

[sand swift]

Okay,I'm using roar at 428% strength and it doesn't one shot. Probably about 80%

[tidal parrot]

do you use the orange shards for ability damage on enemies affected by rad?

[sand swift]

Nope,Might have to try that