builds-discussion

[mighty flare]

not a 90% cap, just can't reach 100%

[fierce lark]

but they still stack together, most of them multiplicatively

[karmic badger]

A single source of damage reduction can go to only 90, but you can have several

So 90% x 90% x 90% ad infinitum yada yada

[fierce lark]

if you have one thing giving 90%, and another thing giving 90%, say adaptation and 9 stacks of baruuk's 3, the first hit calculates to only deal 10% damage, and then the second DR applies so it deals 10% again

giving you effectively 99% DR

[queen parcel]

blessing gives me 75% and so does link

[leaden thistle]

So yeah, technically you'll be 99.9999999 but never a full 100%

[queen parcel]

not to mention her 1 gives a death save...

[fierce lark]

and it can stack further beyond that

add 50% from shields to only take 0.5%, another 50% from baruuk's 4 to take 0.25%

[queen parcel]

this is about trinity

[fierce lark]

im using an example

[queen parcel]

but yes i see your point

[leaden thistle]

Shield defense does not take armour into account though. Armour only affects Red health

[fierce lark]

shields have innate 50% dr

[leaden thistle]

Yes, but is that not separate from Health and Armour?

[hexed lodge]

Think of it like this way, if your health is 1K, and have Link and Blessing up, that is a...
1,000 x 1.75 (link) x 1.75 (Blessing) = 3062.5 effective health, and this is without accounting other resistances like shields, armor, adaptation etc
math is prob off but you get the point

[fierce lark]

it is, armor only affects health

[queen parcel]

so i should focus on her sheilds?

hm, but then i can't get anything from champions blessing

[karmic badger]

Champions blessing ain't worth lmao

[queen parcel]

maybe i just use persistance to get rid of shields and focs on health and energy tanking?

[hexed lodge]

You can get champion's blessing stacks with things like Hema or Combat discipline if you really want to

[queen parcel]

that'll take forever, i'm not that desperate

[karmic badger]

Right, forgot about the hema

[sinful berry]

Is this build any good or should I switch it out for something else?

[solar reef]

drop adaptation

You can throw away the mecha mods in favor of more range mods

[old marsh]

More range plz

[sinful berry]

So mecha voruna isn't the way to go anymore or is there just better builds

[novel bear]

It’s the way to go if you’re using her 4

If you’re not, she wants a lot of range since it’s multiplicative with prey of dynar’s buff

[wary forge]

Cooked

[solar reef]

Even on a 4 Spam build you’ll ultimately benefit more from range over mecha

you’re ultimately getting the same results over less range at the cost of needing a companion to do it for you

[wary forge]

Mecha on anything isn’t good unless u wanna do a companion focused build

[sinful berry]

I've been using mecha for so long after seeing a huge influx of them popping up I just kinda assumed

[novel bear]

Her 4’s range benefits are pathetic
And it needs more damage, which mecha gives

[solar reef]

its not about the range of her 4, its about being able to prime as many enemies with status as possible

which mecha does, just less efficiently than range-maxxing

this applies to both a 4 spam and a melee setup for her

[novel bear]

That’s not why you run mecha with her 4
You want the mark bonus from empowered

[solar reef]

yes I am aware

but ultimately you’re still getting less out of it

You can just dump archon shards for damage to enemies affected by X status

this isnt 2022

we dont need mecha voruna

[novel bear]

Five archon shards for ability damage is half the bonus of mecha

[solar reef]

and even if they WERE to keep mecha mods they certainly dont need mecha pulse

you know, the mod we’re telling them to replace with range

Because it does NOT benefit your damage

[sinful berry]

Altered it

[wary forge]

Why mecha empowered when you can just run corrosive projection

[solar reef]

physique is even worse dawg

[fierce lark]

isn’t voruna’s whole thing nuking with slash procs

[solar reef]

why are we stacking health and armor

[wary forge]

“Nuking” but yes it’s all slash damage

[fierce lark]

so armor strip is useless

[novel bear]

Voruna’s whole thing is buffing melee weapons

[fierce lark]

slash ignores armor

[gray quarry]

More range, take adaptation off and slot in overextended, take augur reach off for stretch(or archon stretch)

[novel bear]

Or coping that her 4 can be good

[solar reef]

even she already does plenty of armor strip with corrosive

throwing on corrosive projection is such a minor deal atp

[novel bear]

You said take off all mecha mods

[fierce lark]

strip is strip, aura is usually low value anyway

but when your main dmg is bleeds strip is not helpful

[gray quarry]

imma sit and watch

[solar reef]

i still would for brief respite. If you’re that desp for damage? Go ahead I guess

[novel bear]

She really does not need brief respite

[solar reef]

its what I personally find most comfortable for gating

[novel bear]

Just put augur mods on secondary

[gray quarry]

You want popcorn?

[novel bear]

Or augur reach

[fierce lark]

im seeing an aversion to overextended

any particular reason

[novel bear]

Need strength

[solar reef]

also the problem with mecha empowered is that its a single enemy

[novel bear]

So is her 4

[gray quarry]

Much range and can make up the str loss with shards

[solar reef]

but yoy have to go out of your way to hunt that enemy down

[novel bear]

Same with prey of dynar

[solar reef]

not even shards, Impetus + augmented

[sinful berry]

It's now this I don't have any better auras of the same polarity so and I slapped intensity to increase strength

[solar reef]

Prey of dynar + max range primes entire tiles

[fierce lark]

aversion = not wanting to slot it even tho you want range

the strength can be gotten back pretty easily

[sinful berry]

Wrong image

[solar reef]

mecha empowered lets you do more damage to one enemy

[gray quarry]

Ah

[novel bear]

Mecha empowered helps her 4 actually kill things

[fierce lark]

overex is usually run on nukes unless you don’t actually care about range that much

[solar reef]

so does prey of dynar + max range since things will just me primed everywhere

either way the build stinks because yucky 4 spam

[gray quarry]

I offer you popcorn

[solar reef]

meleeruna 🤑

[sinful berry]

Here we go

[solar reef]

just use mecha at that point you have nothing better

[gray quarry]

Why cunning drift?

[solar reef]

Dreamers bond is so unbelievably ass

[fierce lark]

other than cunning drift in a non exilus slot that looks more appropriate

[gray quarry]

Looks much better but cunning drift needs to come off

[fierce lark]

but yeah dreamers sucks and just put cunning in the exilus and run augur reach or secrets or smth

[solar reef]

augur reach over cunning

[sinful berry]

Done

[novel bear]

Swap intensify and cunning drift’s spot
And then put augur reach over cunning

[gray quarry]

Augur secrets would put the str back above 200% but augur reach is the better choice

[solar reef]

your best friend will be Green/Purple/Orange shards

[gray quarry]

He probably knew to do that

[fierce lark]

if you maxed your arcanes strength would hit over 300% with those stacked as is

[solar reef]

max stacks at R5 augmented + impetus on voruna is 138% ability strength

[novel bear]

Voruna’s new best friend is purple shards
She finally has enough energy
They don’t matter for her 4 though

[sinful berry]

I need to farm the 2 arcanes slotted they both sat at R2

[solar reef]

If I ever swap to prime (I wont) i’ll just slot casting I guess

[jaunty briar]

Uhhh are red shards for strength bad for voruna 4 build?

[solar reef]

i dont see the 5th purple as necessary

[solar reef]

no its just ultimately less damage

[gray quarry]

I run 2 parkour velocity and 3 ability str(all 5 tau)

[novel bear]

You can mod for strength
Can’t mod for ability damage
They multiply

[solar reef]

Look at the first bonus

[gray quarry]

The parkour shards were just habit, gotta be fast

[solar reef]

4 tau shards is a final 60% damage increase

Greens and oranges also both have the same bonus for different staus effects

there should never be a time where you play voruna and the tile isnt just covered in at least 5 status effects

preferably 10-13

[glass cape]

https://overframe.gg/build/410147/voruna/descent-of-fangs-ulfruns-endurance-ability-based-dps-nuke-voruna/

Ist this good?

[sinful berry]

Should I slap on the archons that increase ability damage then???

[gray quarry]

Elec ability dmg bonus?

[solar reef]

Damage to enemies affected by electricity

You could also use Green for enemies affected by corrosive, or Orange for rad

the results the same

[novel bear]

I prefer greens
They’re the cheapest

[gray quarry]

How much of a damage increase is that

[solar reef]

60% at 4 tauforged

Functionally a primed bane mod

[gray quarry]

Is it better to run that instead of ability str?

[novel bear]

Yes

They multiply with ability strength

[solar reef]

200x1.6 is more than 200+60

[gray quarry]

[solar reef]

thats the dumbed down answer

[gray quarry]

gonna go swap archon shards now

[sinful berry]

Haven't swapped aura yet

[solar reef]

Ability strength is additive
Ability damage is multiplicative to the number after ability strength is applied

[jaunty briar]

4 purple shards but what would you recommend for 5th?

[solar reef]

looks good otherwise, i’d swap for umbral intensify when possible

[old marsh]

Man. de needs to have one for Blue 😭

[solar reef]

Casting

[gray quarry]

Wonder how it’d work for her 4 or if it’d do much at all

[sinful berry]

I do have an umbral forma so I can do that

[solar reef]

It would literally multiply her final damage by 1.6

we’ve said this already

[gray quarry]

Alr

[solar reef]

if you ask me its all a big roundabout for a frame 90% of its new-found diehard fans will abandom anyways

because her 4th is super awkward and uncomfortable

even if it did a guaranteed 1 billion damage i would STILL subsume over it

[sinful berry]

I get that I've been using voruna for awhile now and i always appreciate help when it comes to improving my builds

[rocky mason]

I thought greens was toxic

[solar reef]

Greens have one that increases damages dealt by toxic status effects

[gray quarry]

Close enough

[solar reef]

The ability damage affected by X status is corrosive

[rocky mason]

So they got both huh

Damn

[solar reef]

this is the tox one

you could probably slot those into a status nuke setup but it doesnt benefit her 4

this is what you’d be using

[dusk cliff]

does anyone have a good saryn build I can copy?

[solar reef]

for what exactly
she has a bunch of different playstyles

[dusk cliff]

Honestly im not sure, Im in steel path and want something high damage since I dont really do level cap grinding. Ive been looking around and nothing really clicked

I have sufficient companions and weapons for priming and dps but im not sure what runs best with her

[solar reef]

You’re mostly looking at Caster Nuking focus (which scales fine in steel path but does fall off towards level 2000-4000) and Weapons Platforming which routes off way past level cap capable

If you just want to optimize? You’d build her for Acid Shells

[dusk cliff]

For weapons platforming thats just a gun damage build correct?

[solar reef]

Saryn’s Toxic Lash double dips with Acid Shells on Sobek

EHP scaling gun nuke

[dusk cliff]

for those types of builds that involves more ramp up right? or does it just hit hard from the getgo?

[solar reef]

straight from the get go

Acid Shells is stupid

[dusk cliff]

that sounds really interesting, would you be able to show me if you have time?

[solar reef]

I dont have a setup for it but I can find one rq

Its what makes her the 2nd highest KPM frame in the game

[dusk cliff]

Appreciate your help

Yeah i always hear her being busted beyond recognition but I can never find the right builds

[solar reef]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yOYZpuqGsP8

[dusk cliff]

Im assuming you want the Kuva sobek over the regular one?

[solar reef]

both work just fine

Kuva Sobek is generally better for the intial kill though

[solar reef]

TLDR: This mod is why

45% EHP regardless of level or the amount of health

[dusk cliff]

thats actually bonkers

[solar reef]

Certain abilities work in funny ways with it that effectively multiply that dmg%

[dusk cliff]

im surprised DE didnt hit that

[solar reef]

Most notably, Saryn’s toxic lash

[solar reef]

because outside of this specific use its kinda mid

its only insane on a select few frames

Cyte, Saryn, and Oraxia being the big ones

a few more like Xaku and Uriel can utilize it

[dusk cliff]

ooooh i have all of those except cyte so ill definitely look into it

[lavish orbit]

everyone forget hydroid :sad:

[solar reef]

its a lot but I’d read all of this

[dusk cliff]

tyvm

[lavish orbit]

Well, I still do a nuke with it with my Hydroid even if it's not directly this interaction-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYnc7jGtEwQ

[solar reef]

I’d also like to add that Acid shells explosioms DO break crates

so its good for looting kinda but thats pretty insignificant outside of 1999 challenges

[lavish orbit]

tf is that pregnant man emoji

[undone dust]

🫄 idk

[solar reef]

why nourish when tempest barrage

[gray quarry]

Why nourish when roar

[lavish orbit]

peak testing in simulacrum

[solar reef]

nourish is generally better it just doesnt make sense here

Roar will benefit Acid Shells

and Hydroid already has access to Viral via Tempest Barrage

better yet would be Xata’s Whisper

[lavish orbit]

Yeah I did test those too

just wanted to show the interaction with hydroid though

[solar reef]

if only Saryns toxic lash was her subsume (it would be bar none the best subsume in the game and it wouldnt even be fair)

[jaunty briar]

growing power or brief respite?

[lavish orbit]

On who

[jaunty briar]

Voruna

For steel path

[lavish orbit]

Growing power isn't trigger by her 4th iirc, brief respite can be good but you'll be most of the time invisible

[solar reef]

do you have an augur mod already

[jaunty briar]

i got augur reach

[solar reef]

its triggered by her 2

[solar reef]

You can pick and choose

[lavish orbit]

Those interactions with her makes no sense

[solar reef]

Both work

[bold warren]

How does one build the Boar Prime?

[jaunty briar]

aight

tty

[solar reef]

actually i stand corrected

But either way just stack one status with your weapons and you’re fine

I was thinking it was status via ABDmg but its weapon status

literally just apply one status

[lavish orbit]

Yes, it'll just be clunky if it's a ulfrun's build

[solar reef]

ulfruns is clunky as a whole

who cares

[lavish orbit]

True

[solar reef]

you can also use things like grimoire that have lasting projectiles

i personally use brief and augur on my melee build because even a fraction of a second for shield gate is more important for me than whatever i’d get from growing power

As stupid and minor as it is

[bold warren]

Where do I go for Weapons Builds

IM SO CONFUSED

[solar reef]

here?

what are you confused about

[bold warren]

Just how to build a Boar Prime?

[sacred kelp]

Hey everyone i have a weird question, i want to build banshee, because the other warframes are starting to get bit boring, would banshee do good with a kuva sobek acid shell build or nahh?

[bold warren]

Thats what @solar reef

[neat crest]

hellooo, anyone got a follie build they don't mind sharing?

[mighty flare]

yes it works, you'd want xata's whispers with her sonars + high strength

[mighty flare]

there should be examples in: #1487164102379049051 message

[neat crest]

thanks! 🙂

[lilac anvil]

yo quick question
how much does the Ostarus headgear cost?? I forgot lol

[sacred kelp]

Does it nuke? Like ill spam sonar ill do more damage yes, but does the spread work with xatas, or is xatas just for the void damage?

[queen parcel]

what else should i add to this build?

[sacred kelp]

If going for a nuke build you need more range

[queen parcel]

wait trinity can nuke?

[sacred kelp]

Yea

[queen parcel]

i...how?

[mighty flare]

yes it nukes, you spam sonars like usual and Sobek's explosions can hit them, then xata's adds another hit that can also hit sonar
causes it to spread

[bold warren]

Sorry again @mighty flare but I forgot the Boar Build ya shared

[mighty flare]

`

that one

[bold warren]

My bad

[mighty flare]

all goods

[bold warren]

Problem, I don’t have all those mods

[sacred kelp]

Mark for death ability

[sacred kelp]

Would you say it would be a viable build to take in to level cap cascade?

[mighty flare]

yes

done it before

[bold warren]

Also how should I build Ripkas is my other query.

[bold warren]

What do I do about this?

[sacred kelp]

Bet ill try it

[queen parcel]

oh i see, combine that with the...1 soo i can stack infinate damage?

can i use it on an enemy i already used well of life on?

[sacred kelp]

Basically you need a lot of strength and range for the execution

[sacred kelp]

You need to do mark of death first and then use well of life or the energy ability to get the best result and they just die all around

[mighty flare]

use the regular versions, like blunderbuss instead of critical deceleration

[bold warren]

I more so meant the Primed Mods

[mighty flare]

same thing, use the regular versions like charged shell instead of primed charged shell

[queen parcel]

eh it's kinda a differant build then i was hoping for lol, but i'll keep it in mind lol

how much do i need of each stat tho?

[bold estuary]

okay I mugged aoi for her reds I feel like this is the right idea for a voruna four build but I just wanna be sure

[ashen quarry]

so does anyone here have the pic of the best elements for all coda/kuva/tenet weapons

[mighty flare]

want more range, augur reach/overextended over precision intensify

[bold warren]

I still don’t know how to build Ripkas either

[bold estuary]

why would I want more range for strength on a four build

[novel bear]

Standard fast attack

Amalgam ripkas mod is for if you’re not using the weapon

[graceful yoke]

so im farming toroids but i find that my khora is absurdly squishy, any ideas?

[bold warren]

Can’t you use both?

[novel bear]

Amalgam ripkas isn’t a very good mod, except for desecrate purposes

[solar reef]

her 2

[solar reef]

they are playing nekros iirc

[mighty flare]

even on nekros you dont actively use ripkas, only for mod

[bold estuary]

yeah but her 2 is mainly just to prime and stack impetus in four builds isnt it?

[mighty flare]

no its how you nuke

[bold estuary]

no Im using her four to nuke...

[solar reef]

its still how you nuke and its mass viral priming for her 4

Even if you’re building for 4, 2 still nukes

[bold estuary]

ill try it so just overextended for intensify?

[mighty flare]

2 with its augment always has more range than 4, you combine them together

[viral totem]

Are there any op ember builds anymore?

[bold warren]

I will be playing Nekros*

[bold warren]

I’m bad at remembering to shoot things and tend to Melee a lot okay

[bold estuary]

you can give her breach surge?

its pretty strong

[hollow aspen]

ember is just worse uriel

[bold estuary]

also yeah I just tested it range is better the four just is harder to stack

[gleaming dagger]

Shoot, just saw this. Give me a second to get back to my PC and I'll share it. Pretty sure I based it off of (or directly copied it from) ninjase's build on Overframe. I know it utilizes his augments along with breach surge over his 1

[mighty flare]

roar/breach surge/thermal transfer are all viable options for ember: #1486027762971050014 message
still gonna want a weapon

[bold warren]

Thats why I want Ripkas to be useable @mighty flare

[mighty flare]

dont really know ur progression, something cheap

[gleaming dagger]

here's my build. Basically using breach surge constantly for CC, Avalanche for armor strip (will full strip once arcanes are ramped up), and ice wave for more CC and building up extra crit damage due to the cold status effects.

[gray quarry]

More range to spread her 2(and bigger area to regain slash procs from her 4s augment but mostly to spread her 2 further)

[gleaming dagger]

how do you have the restraint to have 67k endo sitting there and not have primed flow and equilibrium maxed out yet? I spend my endo the second i get it 😂

[bold estuary]

I am POOR I got two credits to rub together and refuse to farm them so I just natrually build a surplus of endo I had like 140k a few days ago but I maxed a couple prime mods

[opal leaf]

In My case for this, go more range hahahahah

The more range the more you can coat and the better

[gleaming dagger]

just farm daily standing cap with the Hex running exterminate missions, kill two birds with one stone

[opal leaf]

Like this is my frost and frost haven't been suffering for anything

[gleaming dagger]

I can't remember the last time I touched the Index but I'm sitting on 10M creds somehow lol

[opal leaf]

Budget build but it's useful as heck

[wary forge]

not really worth

[wary forge]

this is certainly something

[gleaming dagger]

honestly I might swap out the ice wave augment for stretch and see how that works. Would also benefit breach surge

[bold warren]

How so?

[wary forge]

ur breach serge and u already on frost

like why are u not max range

[wary forge]

just invest in a better melee

[opal leaf]

Go 280 on that bih

[wary forge]

ripkas really only good for nekros and more loot

[bold warren]

??? No because I need that Extra Gore Chance for Nekros

[wary forge]

its a passive

u dont actually have to use it

just equip the mod

[bold warren]

Except I want to cause I like Melees

[wary forge]

just like a typical influence build thne

and its gonna be fine cause its a melee so ye

[bold warren]

WDYM

[wary forge]

like just go melee influence

[maiden cargo]

if i puke that resets my armor to 400 "default stats" yes?

[wary forge]

its got terrble status tho

and super low base dmg

its just not worth the invest

[wary forge]

ye i think it still resets it to the same

[maiden cargo]

thats ermm bad for persistance then

[wary forge]

u got enough armor just with 3 enemies in his stomach

[bold warren]

Melee feels better to me than guns so 🤷

[wary forge]

u dont even need fiber

[maiden cargo]

yeah but puking will reset it

[wary forge]

ye

[maiden cargo]

trying gastro build

[wary forge]

just dont puke tho

[maiden cargo]

but im huuungry

[wary forge]

i think with fiber

its enough

[maiden cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-viralhog-relax-rest-dog-gif-22723464

[wary forge]

but also like u gotta umbra forma

[maiden cargo]

yeah ima go umbra

[wary forge]

i mean u have so much hp and stuff that like realistly

[maiden cargo]

errrmm the augment gives like 100+ more armor sadly

[wary forge]

ur gonna be fine even without persistence

[wary forge]

yeah its pretty bad

[bold warren]

IM CONFUSED

[wary forge]

yeah so grendle has 400 base armor

so with just a fiber ur like over 900

[bold warren]

NOT Grendel. Wtf to do on Nekros when I find Melee more intuitive to use

[wary forge]

u just use the melee

whats hard to understand about that

[maiden cargo]

ermm going rolling guard route ?

[wary forge]

nah i mean like

u have like 3k hp and nourish to heal u

[bold warren]

How to build said Melee

[wary forge]

persistence is more for like insurence uk

[wary forge]

well it depends

[valid cargo]

Is this melee shield regen equinox build any good?

[maiden cargo]

go ermm single range / stretch , full STR and survivability
then get wrathful advance helmith
full str = buff wrathful advance
prime surefooted

[wary forge]

u can subsume wa on his 4 and go precision intensify

[bold warren]

What’s WA

[wary forge]

wrathful advance

[gray quarry]

Wrathful advance

[wary forge]

kullveros ability

[bold warren]

Oh feck I need to get 2 Kullervos then

[maiden cargo]

grandel has 95 shield so ermmm i was thinking presitance might needed here

[wary forge]

u can lazy gate

since he has the lowest shield value in the game

[maiden cargo]

nah ill go per because nourish proc aoe

i forgot about that

[wary forge]

its p much the samething as persistence its slighly less stats but less invest cause no umbra forma needed

[maiden cargo]

yah

wait what

i dont need it lol

[bold warren]

I still don’t see how the heck I can make a useable Ripkas Build on Nekros but oh well.

[maiden cargo]

ps notice puking 4th ability does not empty my stomach

[maiden cargo]

you dont

[wary forge]

ye

[maiden cargo]

we waiting for ripkas incarna or wrath

i mean kuva ripkas

da fudge gastro 1 shot officers

[wary forge]

it can one shot sp pretty easily

even at higher levels it s stilla full strip

plus toxin procs

its jsut very good

[rocky mason]

Kuva ripkas would be great

[maiden cargo]

if you going melee build nekros you dont need ripkas

just get slashing base melee like sycthe

slashing base melee has a chance to gore

[wary forge]

jsut slam 🙂

[maiden cargo]

dont think slam will proc gore

[wary forge]

nah it wont but like

just gets more kills

[maiden cargo]

ahh but prefer gore overall especially specific targets

like hunting manics for ripkas stance

for ripkas just go melee ceeren for rolling freeze but freezing taget disables gore too

sad they change it long time ago

also make sure your option enables gore

because if its disable you dont get ripkas bonus gore 😂

[rocky mason]

Isn't it like killing in any way but with a >50% of base damage being slash?

[maiden cargo]

yeah

[rocky mason]

Then slam should work

[wary forge]

u can just go any braindead primary/secondary

and just have ripkas equiped but i mean

[novel bear]

Slam builds are heavy slam though
And that’s basically always pure blast

[maiden cargo]

idk tbh loong time i research about nekros kit

yeah you dont need ripkas to kill

as long as you have amalgram ripkas / ripkas equip

[rocky mason]

I thought it counted the base damage not the actual damage dealt

[novel bear]

Base damage of the attack pretty sure

And the base damage of heavy slams is blast

[opal leaf]

Just realized on this conversation

Ripkas is only used... For Nekros?

Nothing else

Bc what's up with "Gore Chance" I heard

[maiden cargo]

yes

[novel bear]

Used for looting
If you’re in a dedicated squad everyone runs ripkas, or something else that causes gore
Basically means that the corpse ends up in multiple pieces, so it counts as two corpses for desecrate

[maiden cargo]

but remember that nekros can only descrate 4 corpse per sec

so its not instant

[opal leaf]

Ahhhh gotcha

And Ripkas is able to support that

Why is it not used for general killing?

Aside the obvious buff for nekros

[novel bear]

Ripkas isn’t a very good weapon

[placid vapor]

It’s just out dated

[novel bear]

And amalgam ripkas isn’t a very good mod if you’re not using it for looting

[placid vapor]

Maybe it’ll get an Incarnon at some point.

[novel bear]

Or a kuva version

[placid vapor]

Sure ya

[opal leaf]

Explain why

Less damage?
Hard to manage?

What is the reason it's not that good

[maiden cargo]

its slow

its ment for errm take downs

[novel bear]

Not great base stats
Bad stance
And if you’re using amalgam ripkas you can’t use galv steel or sac steel

[maiden cargo]

take downs meaning like finisher kill

yeah sadly why we waiting for kuva version

[opal leaf]

Ahhh gotcha

It's good for non SP tho right?

[novel bear]

Yes

[opal leaf]

Bet you'll suffer in SP

[placid vapor]

You could make them work in SP pretty easy if you really wanted to. They just won’t preform at the level many newer melees are capable of.

[opal leaf]

True

That's so true

I mean any melee can it's just some melees or weapons in general, will just outperformed the current weapon ur holding

Like My Dual ichor is good but I kmow Hate will outperform it

And next week is Hate week :33333

[placid vapor]

Anything in this game can be good enough to work. Just gotta give it some love.

Hate incarnon is rather strong

[prime ivy]

Mmmm 150% cc and 6.8x cd on kuva chakkhurr is so much fun, but I'm trying to decide if I want to swap vigilante fervor for primed shred. The set bonus is only at 10% chance to enhance crits with those 2 set mods installed

[kindred perch]

what element should i put on my kuva ogris? i have an elemental vice rn

[maiden cargo]

impact or heat

[kindred perch]

i have it with impact, but why tho?

[gray quarry]

Impact?

[maiden cargo]

yeah

[opal leaf]

Dual ichor too ngl hahaha but it's a good pair

[valid cargo]

This good?

[gray quarry]

it’s time for bed for you

[maiden cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-drama-queen-tantrum-fur-baby-pet-gif-18559468

[maiden cargo]

it boost intial rocket aoe
nothing boost nepalm dmg

heat is another modifer which is also good

[kindred perch]

so it makes the explosion of the weapon itself do more dmg?

[maiden cargo]

yes, enough to kill arbitration drone

[narrow ingot]

What mods would work well on Mire?

[kindred perch]

oh dang, i also have it at 60%

[maiden cargo]

heavy slam build

[kindred perch]

so should i leave it like it is?

i might just leave it like it is, ty for helping

[maiden cargo]

most people go heat

i m too lazy stay impact

[mighty flare]

dont go impact lol

[maiden cargo]

adding element is multiplier

[gray quarry]

Idk what husky was thinking with suggesting impact

[maiden cargo]

it does not matter its low level arbitration mine was fine 4h grind but like i said adding element will be better

[kindred perch]

oh i see

[clear sonnet]

Is perigale prime worth building and if so, how should I go about it?

Like obv it's not torid level but yk

[maiden cargo]

low status chance
primary cryo = infected clip viral raw dmg
element weight

[clear sonnet]

Wanna use it with my cyte specifically bc I find the mechanic interesting

[gray quarry]

It’s not torid so no it’s not worth/j I’d say probably for some activities

[maiden cargo]

mine build raw dmg overall

[earnest canopy]

Will ts be good 🤔

For armor strip i have epitah with corosive

What should I change?

[velvet latch]

That build is amazing 👌

[eternal prism]

For what u need epitah?
You're going to shoot every mob?

[earnest canopy]

If something is too tanky

For priming

[eternal prism]

But u can kill even without priming
Mobs are very squishy now

Just use buffs
Like roar or armor strip(if frame have this skill)

[earnest canopy]

I know but epitah is also good for cc

If there's too much going on i just freeze everyone

[eternal prism]

But u can use for example akarius and not need freeze everyone

I only see primer being used on mesa gara khora and etc
Like support gun with fortifier arcane

[earnest canopy]

Bro i just like epitah

I want to play it it's fun

[eternal prism]

I led you to the fact that you have nothing to kill a crowd of mobs with

Soma solo target

[novel bear]

Don’t put heat on a primer

[eternal prism]

For fortifier it fine

[earnest canopy]

I play epitah and torid mostly

And it's good aoe

I'm just trying soma

[novel bear]

Fortifier has nothing to do with it

[undone dust]

the DoTs from heat build up og from fortifier

[eternal prism]

Heat proc this arcane

[cursive peak]

Epitaph is an aoe weapon anyway I thought

[undone dust]

it's more or less extra help but yeah i can see why you wouldnt want heat on a basic primer unless it's for inherit

[novel bear]

Aoe for priming, single target for damage

You don’t want to be mass proccing heat on a weapon with no faction damage

[eternal prism]

But what if u not use heat like damage in setup

[novel bear]

What if you play with someone who does?

[eternal prism]

But in screen he not play with heat

That's why I wrote

[novel bear]

Unless you only play solo, take heat off the epitaph

[earnest canopy]

I just wanted to know if mods for soma are decent 😭

[eternal prism]

Open arcane slot atleast

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691608041967059044/1384575805253746708/attachment.gif

[novel bear]

Soma build is fine

[velvet pulsar]

Soma:

[novel bear]

That perk is just worse than the other one

[eternal prism]

Secret tech

[spice willow]

Yareli is fun, but I want a frame thats good for primary weapons. Preferably same stats as yareli

[velvet pulsar]

U can use primaries with yareli

[eternal prism]

Yareli fine with primaries

[spice willow]

But they're not that good bc of the passive

Right?

[eternal prism]

U have solo target potential and free 4 skill for buff

[velvet pulsar]

10000% dmg vulnerability against enemies is not good enough for you?

[eternal prism]

Like roar

[cursive peak]

Because of the augment, they're just as good if not better

[novel bear]

What do you mean better?

[eternal prism]

It good for solo target but I guess it doesn't matter

[velvet pulsar]

It's like saying Nyx is bad with melees because her passive doesn't affect them

[novel bear]

Yareli has nothing that specifically buffs primaries, and has stuff that specifically buffs secondaries
She has general buffs that make primaries good, but they won’t be better than secondaries

[cursive peak]

Some primaries outclass many, but not all secondaries. Yareli's passive is crit chance, which some secondaries, like laetum, don't want

[novel bear]

Especially since secondaries are better than primaries as a general rule

[spice willow]

They are?

[novel bear]

Yes

Much better arcanes

[eternal prism]

Secret mods

[velvet pulsar]

I use primaries for utility now

[eternal prism]

It's basically just solo targeting

Burston for example

[velvet pulsar]

Rauta, tenet glaxion, coda Bubonico, miter, even latron

[eternal prism]

Sec for aoe more better idk

[spice willow]

any good secondaries for yareli? Rn I'm using akzani

[velvet pulsar]

My secondary is all rounder

[eternal prism]

Akarius

[novel bear]

Dual toxocyst

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691608041967059044/1384575805253746708/attachment.gif

[spice willow]

I'm mr6 btw

[velvet pulsar]

Toxocyst without a doubt

Oh well

[novel bear]

I don’t think they have steel path

[eternal prism]

So use whatever comes to hand

[novel bear]

Kuva nukor

[eternal prism]

The closest one is probably nukor

[novel bear]

Doesn’t really benefit from the passive

[eternal prism]

Sicron

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Cycron

Doesn't reach 100% CC without Yareli's passive

Well fitting

[eternal prism]

How much cc it have?

[spice willow]

I'm confused what do I use at mr6

[velvet pulsar]

20% base I think

[eternal prism]

What do you want

[novel bear]

You don’t have many options at mr6

[eternal prism]

But u can check nukor kuva and tenet cycron

These are the closest ones

[spice willow]

I want to melt enemies with the secondary and yareli sea snare

[velvet pulsar]

Adversary weapons are a good start

[cursive peak]

Those are quest progression dependent

[eternal prism]

With outburst + avenger should be fine

With yareli very fine

[novel bear]

You have to get one of the best melees in the game to get tenet weapons

[velvet pulsar]

Outburst isn't MR 6 investment

[eternal prism]

I'm saying this for the future

[novel bear]

Mr6 is no arcanes

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145515475875397662/1257690673906319452/togif-4.gif?width=325&height=600

[velvet pulsar]

Not necessarily

[eternal prism]

Atleast avenger closest can get

[novel bear]

Can you trade for sisters without doing the quest?

[cursive peak]

You have to 'get' it, not necessarily 'use' it

[velvet pulsar]

I was saying u don't need xoris if u have a good coverage frame

[velvet pulsar]

Oh right

[novel bear]

Deadlock protocol

[eternal prism]

Secret saryn tech

[valid cargo]

Is this a good equinox build?

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cats-cat-falling-gif-14250040379878929810

[cursive peak]

I don't see anything wrong with it, but you have a lot of survivability on a fairly tanky frame at 3 mods, and an arcane

[novel bear]

She’s not that tanky
Her dr ability is awful

[cursive peak]

Isn't it 75%?

[novel bear]

No
It’s variable scaling with strength in a really stupid way
It’s also on a per-enemy basis rather than being a frame buff

And drains energy per enemy affected, in addition to a constant drain

[cursive peak]

Ahh, shows how much how I play her

[random prawn]

how much is this worth?

[novel bear]

Negative is awful

That’s unslottable

[leaden thistle]

Shooting bullets at the speed of a bowling ball

[valid cargo]

Its basically a shield tank equinox melee build

[random prawn]

Oh dang really? I made a post on reddit about the riven mod and someone said that it's worth a chunk

reroll?

[eternal prism]

Just use night form + catal shields

And keep killing

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/940741747032612907/1303503140129210428/togif.gif

[valid cargo]

Yeah im using night form

[leaden thistle]

Like, the top 3 are baller.
The last one is Oof

[eternal prism]

For this reason, you can remove almost all survival mods

[leaden thistle]

You'd fire a rocket and it crawls along at mach turtle

[eternal prism]

And just use catal shields

I won't say how inconvenient this equinox gameplay is, but it's up to you to decide how to play it

[random prawn]

so don't reroll?

[novel bear]

Reroll

There are very few sources of projectile speed

And negative projectile speed is awful on angstrum

[leaden thistle]

Yeah I think the Projectile speed is enough Oof that it's worth re-rolling. All that power in the top 3 won't matter for anything if the rockets never hit because they fly at 10% speed

[eternal prism]

Secret slow rockets build

[random prawn]

WAIT THOSE WHO KNOW??

[eternal prism]

You guys don't understand anything about this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145515475875397662/1257690673906319452/togif-4.gif?width=325&height=600

[leaden thistle]

I mean, Zephyr users would laugh and just use Tailwind

[random prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349142399645122643/1431898238113546322/attachment.gif

[novel bear]

Zephyr usually doesn’t run that much strength for jet stream

[leaden thistle]

Can always try and sell it for something, see who bites /shrug

[eternal prism]

Secret abuse plat in market

How do you know about this

[leaden thistle]

I've seen things...

[valid cargo]

@eternal prism done

[leaden thistle]

Jet Stream is +100% by default without strength mods

[novel bear]

And zephyr usually runs negative

[fair blade]

Anybody have a good Tenet Quanta build?

[novel bear]

Overextended and no strength mods because she doesn’t need them

[leaden thistle]

Would have to build around it, yeah. But still.

[random prawn]

Will the secret slow rocket build work?

think about it

[eternal prism]

But buff skill like roar...

[eternal prism]

No

[random prawn]

the enemies will never see it coming

[novel bear]

Doesn’t need roar

[leaden thistle]

Yeah, Zephyr needs Range to nyoom at Mach Stupid

[novel bear]

No, that’s duration

[leaden thistle]

Shoot, right. What was Overextended for then (I don't Zephyr too often)

[plain drum]

chat what alement for coda bubonico? electric or mag? since magnetic strafe exists

[novel bear]

For tornadoes or target fixation

[eternal prism]

For solo target nuke not really
It will be more convenient with it but not necessary

[last crag]

Is Voruna's 4 considered a melee yet or is it still in that weird limbo zone?

[leaden thistle]

I wanna say Limbo zone, but I'd have to retest.

All I know is that she self-synergizes with her own abilities for melee purpose, but I haven't paid attention to mod or arcane synergy

[last crag]

Was just hoping it'll count for shard purposes

[mighty flare]

Still no on melee cd shards

[last crag]

Damn, thanks tho

[solar reef]

its not weapon coded in any way

so it also doesnt benefit from Arcane Arachne or holster amp

In fact, originally it didnt even work for her own abilities, they had to change it to work with her 3

If you want to boost its damage use shards like this

Greens and Ambers have similar options, all of them work

[dense abyss]

Its worth to use Telos Boltace with Lavos? Or i just go with Dual Ichor?

[rocky mason]

What would you use the telos boltace for?

[dense abyss]

Grouping

[plain drum]

run sarofang prime real

[dense abyss]

melee influence and high status chance

[solar reef]

Just use vortex ichor

unless you dont want the melee to kill them

in which case its fine for just grouping

[wary forge]

dont even need gorpuing like that for influnece tbh

[gray quarry]

You, what be your syam build

[solar reef]

ah

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-cat-silly-fella-kitty-bleh-tongue-out-gif-7128475010806448922

[gray quarry]

I rob you

[solar reef]

not on wf

cant send

[gray quarry]

Companion app?

[solar reef]

not equipped

already checked

[gray quarry]

Can still see it in your inventory tho

[solar reef]

cant check builds on the unequipped afaik

[novel bear]

Syam is heavy attack build with co and a normal damage mod

[gray quarry]

You can

[novel bear]

And gas electric usually

[gray quarry]

I’ve done it multiple times

[novel bear]

For influence

[solar reef]

or maybe you can

[gray quarry]

It just doesn’t say the arcane equipped

[solar reef]

I use Melee Exposure

Note that this is purely for heavy spam, I don’t even use tennokai

[novel bear]

Probably swap elementalist over killing blow

[gray quarry]

Was gonna do elementalist over bane

[solar reef]

its for voruna so we arent terribly worried about DOT on weapon

[gray quarry]

I don’t have a ranked exposure, damn

[solar reef]

If you arent using Influence its largely unneeded

[gray quarry]

Gonna go gamble for atleast an r1 exposure

[solar reef]

you can also use Careen

If you’re utilizing her 2 enemies will be frozen often times

[gray quarry]

True

I’ll probably go eith that

[solar reef]

i just like exposure for the consistancy

for an Influence setup I actually recommend buying a riven for either Heat+Cold or Heat+Tox

you can get by without it but its super convenient

[gray quarry]

Fair

[warm obsidian]

Which Bonds to prioritize getting

[gray quarry]

Wish I could see the projectile

[quiet laurel]

manifold, tenacious, reinforced, momentous

[gray quarry]

All of them

[warm obsidian]

Mostly been using unmodded Diriga, Shade and Nautilus :v

[solar reef]

you can

its in your energy color

just use something other than black

[gray quarry]

I forgot to color it

[warm obsidian]

What's a good alternative to Tazicor for priming

[maiden cargo]

what is the max cap of armor ?
i mean err around what armor is too much armor

[solar reef]

anything past the amount needed for persistance, usually

[gray quarry]

As much armor as you can

[maiden cargo]

so 1400

[solar reef]

persistence needs 700

[warm obsidian]

Reached 2.8k for Valkyr before :v

[gray quarry]

1500, enough for max primary bulwark

[warm obsidian]

Keep in mind Heat procs reduces armor

[maiden cargo]

nah i forgot where i watch it but grace requires 1400 armor

[earnest canopy]

If I'm priming first

Galv aptitude will give me more damage than serration right?

[quiet laurel]

yes

tho why would you prime for torid of all things

[novel bear]

Grace doesn’t interact with armor

[novel bear]

Condition overload doesn’t work properly with incarnons

Don’t remember how much damage torid loses from that though

[earnest canopy]

Soooo just use seration or smth else

[gray quarry]

I’m wondering something, why gas

[knotty halo]

So question, im building my Harmony melee weapon, i currently have Volcanic Edge on it, but is there a electrical version of volcanic edge with status chance?

[novel bear]

Raw damage

[gray quarry]

Huh

[novel bear]

Yes
Gaptitude only gives half the benefit for direct hits and zero benefit for radial

[earnest canopy]

I sometimes use it to to have viral and corosive at the same time idk maybe I'm not understanding something but from what i saw priming is kinda op. But I'm just getting into steel path etc. So I kinda don't know wtf to do

[quiet laurel]

you'll have higher kills if you just spam torid instead of wasting time to manually prime tbh

[earnest canopy]

I mean i do that I only prime if something doesen't want to die cause idk what else to do with secondary slot honestly

Like on secondary only primer felt usefull

[novel bear]

Manual priming is dead
Companions are too good at it

[earnest canopy]

So what else should i do with secondary slot

Just nothing or

And for companion priming use panzer or diriga

Cause I saw ppl use both

Like smth like that on diriga

[novel bear]

Any robotic companion is better than panzer

Diriga build is fine

Though diriga is better for short range

[eternal prism]

I don't use priming and everything is destroyed instantly😎

[rocky mason]

Same

Why prime when you can just use that time to kill the enemy instead

[eternal prism]

secret saryn tech

[novel bear]

You try to convince people to put encumber on mesa

[eternal prism]

nope

never try it

I was talking about the cheapest alternative when no outburst

[rocky mason]

I just like my PPP builds

[river palm]

priming is a great way to make sub par weapons get up to speed

but "meta" picks definitely don't need it

[eternal prism]

just use not co mod

[rocky mason]

Just shoot again

[eternal prism]

and it will be fine

[river palm]

key word people "sub par"

[rocky mason]

Shoot another time

[eternal prism]

use buffs

😨

[rocky mason]

Aim at the head

[eternal prism]

time do strun secret incarnon

[novel bear]

There’s also no reason to not use a decent priming companion most of the time

Unless you’re a playing a caster and using shade/huras

[gray quarry]

I should go grind out a different priming companion

[novel bear]

Start killing sisters

[gray quarry]

I have a hound already

[blazing bear]

Does anyone know of a good panzer vulpaphyla build please?

[earnest canopy]

I just don't know anymore cause I see some ppl say you don't need it and some that you need it

[fathom cove]

hello can anyone give a good voruna prime build ?

[earnest canopy]

And nukor is a most used secondary and it's a primer i think at least

[novel bear]

Nukor can be used as a primer
But it’s also just very good for damage

[violet silo]

bigger numbers

[novel bear]

Also, viral and armor strip will always decrease ttk significantly

[violet silo]

nukor can get to like 12x crit dmg...

[novel bear]

But if you’re already one shotting enemies, priming won’t do anything

[earnest canopy]

Oh

[rocky mason]

Valid, it just feels like a waste of time to me

[violet silo]

nukor can prime for itself basically

[novel bear]

There is no reason to not use a priming companion 99% of the time

[rocky mason]

You don't need anything in warframe, things are just easier when you use the strong things

[rocky mason]

I like my oxylus breaking crates instead of attacking the enemies

I'm already there for that

[eternal prism]

so far I see it with the use of a companion
problem is rather that you will probably one-shot absolutely everything even without this

[novel bear]

Tazicor?

[rocky mason]

No like, I removed assault mode from it

Don't waste the time attacking enemies little robot, just break crates and touch grass

[eternal prism]

most I use the primer for is as a support weapon for gara khora mesa and similar frames for fortifier
Otherwise, there is no point in them because you still need to kill hordes of mobs with something

[rocky mason]

I only ever use a primer on my atlas farming build

And it's just to keep Lycath's hunt up

And because I don't need to swap weapons to punch people

[mental night]

anyone able to pick at a Voruna Prime build?

[eternal prism]

u already have energy sustain in 3nd skill

[mental night]

after a wee tweaking

[abstract axle]

can I persuade you off of using ulfruns descent? most melees outperform

[mental night]

HELL no

[maiden cargo]

its less dmg taken = heal overtime
so overall you taking below 500 dmg from persistence but armor lowers it more making grace heal you max

[novel bear]

No

Persistence applies after armor

And there is no point running persistence if you can’t outheal the damage

Armor doesn’t improve your healing

Inaros and nidus are the main frames running persistence and grace

[bold estuary]

I really like my kuva grattler but archguns run out of ammo in 20 seconds it feels like what frames (besides folie) get past this?

[balmy adder]

how bad is the negative range?

[bold estuary]

I only specifically outlier folie since she’s not a weapons platform which is more what I want

[mighty flare]

range doesnt affect slams

[bold estuary]

Range is for swinging the hammer not slamming it

[balmy adder]

nice

thanks

[mental night]

her 4 is just too fun to give up

[mighty flare]

you want strength on everything, esp now that both buffs work properly
armored agility not good, would use equilibrium then swap energize for molt/impetus

more range on voruna is good too

[bold estuary]

Use molt augmented and impetus instead of crepuscular and energize her 3 is infinite energy with equil and crepuscular crit doesn’t work with her four

[mental night]

armored agility is mainly for nyeooooooom

[mighty flare]

crep does work, just inconsistent

doesnt work with distances

[bold estuary]

Still worse than impetus lowkey

[novel bear]

Better mods for that
Like rush
Which fits in exilus

[bold estuary]

If your in voruna four stacked and priming +3 crit multiplier really isn’t gonna do a lot😭

[midnight crown]

guys, between fury and shred what should i choose?

[abstract axle]

fury has a better replacement in berserker

so i'd say shred

[eternal prism]

fury need for secret tech

he probaly never gonna use shred

[midnight crown]

what secret tech?

[eternal prism]

there is simply no room for it in 99% weapon

[eternal prism]

When you search for interesting unknown mechanics, you will understand, but not today.

[abstract axle]

some weapons badly want punch through and its the best way to get it

[midnight crown]

okay

[eternal prism]

I'll just say that with this you can complete missions faster than anyone else

[novel bear]

Shred is best in slot on most primaries

[abstract axle]

this tennos zoren coptering in the modern day

[eternal prism]

I don't remember any weapon other than vadarya that would want this mod

[midnight crown]

this sounds really interesting, but i have no idea about it

[eternal prism]

90% fire rate exists
not big deal 15% damage

[novel bear]

Punch through is better

[abstract axle]

2.2 punch throuhg is a potential multiplicative damage buff versus groups

[novel bear]

The only weapons that come to mind that don’t want shred are sporothrix and anything running cannonade

[eternal prism]

I highly doubt it, but in any case, fury is better on average
when u not want spam melee all time

[abstract axle]

(and anything that has locked punch through, but thats me being pedantic)

[eternal prism]

primaries anyway more about solo target

[novel bear]

The only one I could think of is sporothrix

[novel bear]

Torid’s not real I guess

[eternal prism]

Torid does a great job even without shred

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145515475875397662/1257690673906319452/togif-4.gif?width=325&height=600

[novel bear]

And it does a better one with it

[eternal prism]

with 90% better

[novel bear]

Every chain beam wants punchthrough

[clear sonnet]

Or the bubonico, or the trumna, or the cedo, or like

Any number of aoe weapons

[eternal prism]

💀

[novel bear]

Fire rate is very easy to buff externally

Punchthrough is not

[clear sonnet]

Oh you mean gauss

[novel bear]

Or reinforced bond
Or arcanes
Or wisp

[eternal prism]

Even though I use other sources on a regular basis, I'm more than sure that this isn't true. But fury is more useful in any case

[gray quarry]

Or the or the or the or the

[novel bear]

Primed fury is niche

[midnight crown]

[novel bear]

Very niche

[abstract axle]

im not sure of an exhaustive list, but strun incarnon and miter incarnon both lock it to zero. a lot of pseudo explosives

[eternal prism]

You just haven't seen people fly with it

[novel bear]

I only use strun incarnoff anyways
Also that’s a shotgun

[eternal prism]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEypHeNWEAAK76S.webp

[abstract axle]

very niche is a major stretch. it can be better simply if you want to have a hybrid playstyle and don't want to have to restack berseker constantly

[abstract axle]

why incarnoff? the incarnon form is quite strong imo

[novel bear]

Incarnoff also strong
And I like it better

[gray quarry]

Incarnon is “how many statuses would you like” “yes”

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691608041967059044/1384575805253746708/attachment.gif

[midnight crown]

so, what should i choose?

[maiden cargo]

yes but there frames that still can use persistence

[warm obsidian]

Valkyr Prime with her 1k Def

[violet silo]

is this still about primed mods

[midnight crown]

yeah

[violet silo]

I say shred

[limber tide]

i may have found a bug lol

[midnight crown]

okay

[gray quarry]

No psf, skip

[eternal prism]

☠️

2 mods and it be psf

[gray quarry]

next time they get mods it’ll be psf

[eternal prism]

A lot time

[midnight crown]

200 days

[eternal prism]

☠️

[tidal parrot]

at 200 get shred, at 400 psf

[eternal prism]

Use then 2 mod combo

Not big deal atleast

[midnight crown]

maybe ill get primed fury next time

[eternal prism]

600 day if im not misstake

(I don't know when the mod rotation will be)

[clear sonnet]

Simply listing examples

[proper meadow]

So uh how would I build for crit chance since if I'm not using harrow I don't have any while harrow has guaranteed orange

[eternal prism]

cc mods

there are not many of them in the game

outburst enervate

avenger

[opal leaf]

Harrow is funny with Acceltra fr hahahah

[valid current]

Can anyone share a magistar build that i can copy? Non steel path, just general use against lvl 60+ enemies

[proper meadow]

Honestly with my weapons chroma seems way way worse bc it's not harrow

[opal leaf]

Bc it is what it is hahahaha

Chroma is a Tanky Weapon platformer but he needs some good buffs and needs good tactics to play

While Harrow... It's been like that a bit but he is easy to learn

[wary forge]

he jsut doesnt tho

[opal leaf]

Hard truth... Yeah that's true hahahah

[wary forge]

it is

u just hit dmg cap on any glaive or zaw with just vex armor

[opal leaf]

I'll get Chroma once a rework happened to him..... Which is a few years for sure

[wary forge]

he really just needs qol tbh

[opal leaf]

True, which is.... Good???? But at the same time it's.... Idk how to explain but half of it is good in specific and certain situations hahaha

[wary forge]

ur just not a knower

zaws can do everything in the game bruh

[opal leaf]

Yeah I'm still to be one

Idk about Zaw bc I am focusing on an Amp so I can Cascade wth no problem

[wary forge]

ive done atleast liike 30ish cap runs on chroma

zaw is just broken and hes one of the best zaw frames

[opal leaf]

What is a Zaw even?

Like it's a weapon, yes but what else?

[wary forge]

its a custom melee

like a kit gun as a melee

but basically

[opal leaf]

And you can create a glaive on it? And mod it ur own?

[wary forge]

they have an arcane that allows u to throw them live a gliave

[opal leaf]

Ahhhh

[wary forge]

exodia contagion

[proper meadow]

How do u even get that much

[wary forge]

u just do

[proper meadow]

I still don't believe anyone can hit damage cap

[opal leaf]

That's the one arcane I always heard in fhis

[proper meadow]

It's all edited

[wary forge]

i do it every single time i use a zaw lol

the lowest damage it does is like 50 mill

[proper meadow]

What's a zaw

[opal leaf]

Oh we can, a mission called Cascade in Steel Path can

Especially if u have a good squad? Yup you'll be in lvl cap in no time

[proper meadow]

I meant damage cap

[fallow mortar]

not finished but going for a tanky doggo build

[opal leaf]

Chroma can do it

Using mods and external buffs

[wary forge]

its a custom melee you make on cetus

basically a glaive with exodia contagion

[proper meadow]

I just want to do more than 5m with my viper

[wary forge]

with one single shot that is going to be quite difficult

[opal leaf]

Can a Viper reach that? Let alone a Wraith

I don't know about Viper nor Wraith aside Ignis as I don't use it

[proper meadow]

I have gotten close

[wary forge]

this is something

[opal leaf]

I was about to say

[opal leaf]

Did you use an Acuity build on your gun?

[fallow mortar]

def. built around the 4 and being tanky is enjoyable

[opal leaf]

You know you can be Tanky without.... All of those

[wary forge]

its just not contruscted the best

[opal leaf]

Before I deleted Voruna this is my build

It's quite Tanky but does the rest of the work of killing anyone using the 4 and nuking them using 1 and 2

The missing mods are the Prey of Deynar and Ulfrun smth

[fallow mortar]

i know that but i dont prefer that set up i like actual hp tank

[opal leaf]

This build is not a Tanky one... Sure... But it's a survivable one

[opal leaf]

Where is Persistence?

[wary forge]

that is a good question

[opal leaf]

Well Voruna is gone now, she became a beautiful flower

[wary forge]

1k armor is already 90% dr

[opal leaf]

But in your buuld... U said Hp tanking... Where is the Persistence?

[wary forge]

and u have adaptation for some reason

[eternal prism]

secret voruna nuke tech

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-his-hand-in-the-cat's-mouth-cat-meme-cat-licks-finger-black-cat-gif-6060486166583365754

[opal leaf]

There you go again hahahahaha

[wary forge]

also its a 4 build with 144% strength

[eternal prism]

but now she really can nuke

[wary forge]

and like no other help

[eternal prism]

not even joke

[opal leaf]

That's what I am saying hababab

[wary forge]

lol

i mean u can if u go 300% with like impetus or smth

[eternal prism]

with roar

[wary forge]

yep

[opal leaf]

By replacing the 3

Idk that's the only subsume slot I see

[eternal prism]

I did it with this build, but obviously this build is not optimized at all

[opal leaf]

Well I'm trying to main Harrow now sooooooooooo

[fallow mortar]

adaption keeps you from getting knocked down or anthing along those lines adpation protects you against the extra effects

[opal leaf]

Oh Roar on her 4?

Oh yeah that make sense

[wary forge]

harrow is quite good

[opal leaf]

It's fun with an Acceltra

[wary forge]

.....