builds-discussion

[solemn kiln]

ah the days when zenistar was good

[proven veldt]

im not gonna be using it much seriously but i hope i can try to make it work in SP

[mighty flare]

rending crane is good
tempo royale is fun on forward spinning

[solar reef]

still cant believe they nerfed tempo the way they did

its mostly just feeling-oriented

its not that they are statistically terrible or anything

most players just find them uncomfortable

[proven veldt]

hey, can anyone help me or nah?

[solar reef]

this paired with weapons in the category historically stinking (minus a few outliars) gives them bad rep

[solar reef]

with?

[proven veldt]

Making zenistar into grouping tool through melee vortex

i don't really know how to properly make that, i have most of the needed stuff i think

[solar reef]

thats definitely a choice I guess

[proven veldt]

i need a melee grouper caulse i got no other slots ((

[solar reef]

just missed out on Vortex’s best user

[proven veldt]

wdym

[solar reef]

Dual Ichor incarnon

[proven veldt]

dammit

but like it needs me to be too close to action so also not my choice i think

any other ideas?

[solar reef]

its just not usually preferable i dont know

the only other grouping weapon I use is Scyotid

which isnt a melee

[solemn kiln]

wait you are trying to group? could use your operator to do that

[solar reef]

zenurik has mag pull

[solemn kiln]

zenurik pull is kinda op

[proven veldt]

the problem is that my secondary slot is already taken by tome that i need for duration (yes) and my frame already has a subsume. My primary is not going to change and i can't use nautilus cause he groups too close to me, which won't work in my case

my operator runs vazarin

heard it has grouping but idk

[solemn kiln]

hmm vortex huh

do you have any of the coda weapons?

actually not coda, any of the thrown weapons?

[violet silo]

isn't that one of influence's best users too

meh vortex sounds more fun

[solemn kiln]

@potent pivot for what you want id suggest ether a glaive or one of the thrown weapon

[proven veldt]

i have coda pathocyst

[solar reef]

its just more fun to use vortex

Theres so few weapons that can use it to such a good extent

might as well enjoy it when you can

[solemn kiln]

build it for viral/magnetic

[proven veldt]

do i valence overried to magnetic or keep it elec?

[solemn kiln]

and then heavy attack and speed and just yeet it at the group of enemies you want to group up

[solemn kiln]

id change it to magnetic less mods required

[karmic beacon]

Hi! How should one build Voruna Prime?

[solemn kiln]

and it comes with viral already so you can put on heavy attack mods

[green gyro]

same as base voruna but you don't need a blue shard for energy

[karmic beacon]

Would you happen to know of a build for her?

[green gyro]

ye I have one for magistar influence

she's the only frame apart where that's a good option

[proven veldt]

something like that?

[green gyro]

what weapon

[proven veldt]

pathocyst coda

[green gyro]

and no, that's not good on any glaive

you need elec

[solemn kiln]

Its for vortex

[proven veldt]

dawg im trying to make a melee grouping tool

[livid ginkgo]

Can I have a build for bolter?Prime without ribbon and galvanized

If anybody know a build by chance🤔

[solemn kiln]

Give it a try in simulacrum

[proven veldt]

it works but too slow

i need something that does it in 1 - 3 hits not 11

[solemn kiln]

Raise the damage then

Change rush to condition overload

[mighty flare]

?

[sonic folio]

Sup meaty boy

[green gyro]

doesn't work on glaives

also then he loses magnetic lol

unless progenitor idk

[red juniper]

Is this a good riven mod for Zenith?
+5.7% reload speed
+5.6% magazine capacity
+13.6% critical damage
-13.1% critical chance

[solar reef]

no

its bad

[red juniper]

Thought so, just based on the decreased critical chance alone

[solar reef]

CO doesnt benefit zenistar glaive thingy

afaik

maybe im wrong

[proven veldt]

i think this isn't supposed to work

but it kinda does?

[night pond]

Quesion: do Archon Mods work with Voruna's 2?

[mighty flare]

yes

[night pond]

does Archon Intensify work with her 3?

[solar reef]

no because they are health orbs

not ability generated health

[solemn kiln]

Wasn't using zenistar was using a glaive and as fast i know co does work for projectiles which glaives are considered to be

[night pond]

darn

[mighty flare]

no

[solar reef]

no real benefit to using any of them but if you want to pretty up your mod sheet you can

Archon Stretch is a nice little energy freebie but she has free energy econ with equillibrium anyways

Archon continuity is fine but she also primes for Corrosive anyways

its literally just “I want to color my mod sheet”

I think I only use Intensify because Its just like “why not?”

[red juniper]

Probably another bad riven mod for the Coda
-5.5% weapon recoil
1.03x damage to corpus

[bold warren]

How would people build a Boar Prime?

[timber sparrow]

hi chat i know nothing about pets so i have this dog here what do i do

i just put some bs a couple years ago

[sonic folio]

https://youtu.be/OQ7Bdex5_NM?si=QnEPTwWWNu05mgvG watch this don't bother with kubrows

[bold warren]

Can anyone show me a Boar Prime build?

[timber sparrow]

but thats my loyal guard dog i incubated when i just joined the game

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-i-ate-big-pig-becomeanobody-dawg-what-the-hell-are-you-playing-pig-gif-16164058166881632723

[bold warren]

So does no one have Boar Builds?

[mighty flare]

you got the incarnon? this for incarnoff, where you stay in the base mode

[bold warren]

Sadly no, I just kinda need a lot of Plat and after trying out the Duviri Boar, I kinda like its high RoF and Wide Spread but hopefully it can be high damage also

[mighty flare]

this build works for the base mode, but you'd wanna get the incarnon form for the big boost

[solar reef]

outright lying btw

[high grove]

Sum1 give me the best Burston Prime build that has ever existed and gotta do at least a million in damage.

[solar reef]

they arent the best companions by a long shot

they arent even the best at their own niche

they just look cool

[bold warren]

So getting the Prime is pointless?

[sonic folio]

Ok buddy

[solar reef]

Hounds do what panzers do but better

[sonic folio]

Anything coming from deimos look like shit

[sonic folio]

Hounds are not the same and much harder to get

[solar reef]

hounds arent hard to get

[mighty flare]

no i meant, when you get boar's incarnon adapter, you can build for the new incarnon mode, or the base mode, this build focuses on the base mode
prime is good

[sonic folio]

If you want random parts sure

[brittle sleet]

https://overframe.gg/build/546852/chesa-kubrow/chesa-kubrow-loot-dog/this is a relatively standard Kubrow setup, ignoring any specific utilities. Obviously this is different from Sahasa but just plug in Sahasa mods instead

[solar reef]

the benefit of panzers is mass viral priming
Hounds can do that + like 3-4 other status

[bold warren]

Ah my bad, yeah here’s the issue. I need Plat. Like, a lot of Plat and IDK how to tackle that

[solar reef]

I use panzers because they’re pretty

but pretending their the best is crazy work

[sonic folio]

They also need shitton of modding while panzer comes packed

[brittle sleet]

The obvious priority with the hound is keeping the uptime on it being alive high, as well as its major utilities (digging or looting, and Synth shenanigans)

[solar reef]

I main melee so they constantly have OG

[brittle sleet]

That do be a solution to keeping your companions alive

[sonic folio]

Society if bite worked with hounds....(im not paying 2 gazzilion plat for riv)

[solar reef]

i frequently use damage decoy as a subsume as well so that helps

keeps aggro away from my companions

[sonic folio]

Holy larp

[solar reef]

though if im using that I wouldnt use Hounds

[velvet pulsar]

Riven for hound?
This isn't verglas scenario

[sonic folio]

They stil cost a ton

[velvet pulsar]

I meant usage

[solar reef]

If you’re worried about what the best option is you shouldnt care about the resource allocation

[sonic folio]

To get crit damage buff on myself

[velvet pulsar]

Even after using a riven, they can't reach tenacious bond threshold

[mighty flare]

larp larp sahur

[sonic folio]

I can buy 2 mesa heirlooms with that buck

[solar reef]

???? I built mine for free

[sonic folio]

You missed a larp triple T

[mighty flare]

i larped

[sonic folio]

What are you tony stark

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/larp-sorry-kid-larp-or-be-larped-rise-of-nations-nation-rising-simulator-gif-18202816756838931088

[quiet laurel]

aaaaand the larp is all over the screen

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/corgi-kick-kindess-ai-ai-corgi-gif-9945789914055658322

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/i-thought-i-ate-big-pig-becomeanobody-dawg-what-the-hell-are-you-playing-pig-gif-16164058166881632723

[solar reef]

there was a guy in general earlier throwing a literal rant over the word Larp

“that was OUR word” ahh tantrum

[sonic folio]

We are long overdue for a next pet tbh

I want a real flier

A hawk too

[solar reef]

waiting in vermink skins for vulpaphylas

[velvet pulsar]

Dante deluxe might bring potential for owl pets

[quiet laurel]

reminds me of the dude who argued that meta doesnt mean most efficient tactic available

[timber sparrow]

can i trade something here to get a gyre augment

[solar reef]

that guy PMO

they always got some take thats just like

[sonic folio]

I don't want it if it just gonna stay on top of my head and not roam the map on it's own

[mighty flare]

who

[solar reef]

objectively wrong like its not even an opinion

[velvet pulsar]

Surely meta means: Monthly Elite Temporal Archimedia

[charred gale]

tf does he think META means then😭

[velvet pulsar]

[quiet laurel]

#warframe-general message have fun reading

[sonic folio]

I heard devs have content laid out for upto 2034 why are they bottle necking updates tho

[quiet laurel]

idk, recent updates have been insanely mid so I just hope that tau saves the bad update chain

[velvet pulsar]

If they had so much planning, things wouldn't be the same as they are

[solar reef]

most content is just compiled ideas that they dont work on in full until its a year or two out

[charred gale]

yeah im already pissed😭

[wild rune]

90% of their updates are ideas they come up with in the shower

[quiet laurel]

DE currently is rushing things way too hard trying to stay on a schedule that doesnt exist

[sonic folio]

We are dry since 1999(base one not flare)

[solar reef]

for minor updates its almost spontaneous

[mighty flare]

latest follie event was highkey ass, really showed the lacking operator movement

https://tenor.com/view/bleh-bleh-cat-spinning-cat-bleeeh-gif-27228826

[sonic folio]

Operator gonna recieve it's 4th rework now

[velvet pulsar]

Consequences of removing mobility from Warframe

[solar reef]

it also was just super lackluster in the event store

[mighty flare]

usually i dont really notice but man, being forced into operator without voidsling was torture

[wild rune]

I didn't mind follie's hunt for grinding follie herself, but yea the operation is super lackluster

[quiet laurel]

I just hope so much DE goes away from the usual "here have new frame with a new mid mission with a resource that can only be used in this specific contents vendor and be happy"

[sonic folio]

Legit i completed every quest and still have only vague notions about wtf was those

[velvet pulsar]

Dagath, Koumei, Follie:

Never again.

[quiet laurel]

every recent frame

[sonic folio]

They are just so random and disconnected from eachother like the orville episodes

[mighty flare]

heard of that yeah, no arcanes be a bummer

[wild rune]

Citrine 💀

[sonic folio]

Son im citrine

[quiet laurel]

I like the no arcane part

means the market has time to recover

[solemn kiln]

@proven veldt so I was wrong

[mighty flare]

https://giphy.com/gifs/apple-macintosh-v0ok8uhZvw3yE

[sonic folio]

Bro think he's chud of wallstreet

[mighty flare]

the markets will always be down and you will like it yessire

[velvet pulsar]

Atleast that had arcanes

[solar reef]

if you ask me the arcanes being dirt cheap IS the recovered state

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/chloe-maid-uwu-gif-15777272991765203716

[pallid quiver]

Operator can now slingshot through walls and fly

[sonic folio]

Operator boob sliders

[quiet laurel]

doesnt bring me plat income tho, so very bad for me

[solemn kiln]

@proven veldt you would want to use one of the ones listed as multiplicitive

[sonic folio]

I want my solid snake to carry big jugs

[velvet pulsar]

Become riven mafia

[solar reef]

bigger sizes cost plat

[wild rune]

Citrine is the only frame I have purchased with platinum instead of grinding it out
Mirror Defense is my least favorite game mode, hands down

[pallid quiver]

Triple Zs cost 90000 plat would u get it

[mighty flare]

i just wanted operators to not move like a newborn chicken and 5 follies to not cram into 1 tiny room

[quiet laurel]

currently holding onto kuva so I can get the big dih role in my clan and then I'll roll again

[velvet pulsar]

For me, that was protea

[sonic folio]

What about triple T

[wild rune]

I would even take Defection over Mirror Defense because at least then I can have the operatives zip around like a headless chicken by giving them a 300%+ strength Volt speed

[timber sparrow]

does corrosive projection even do anything fr

[sonic folio]

How do you get that

[pallid quiver]

5000

[timber sparrow]

it dont feel like it

[velvet pulsar]

Unum Loid

[sonic folio]

More than dreamers bond son

[velvet pulsar]

Granum Void

[mighty flare]

its like best aura in the game (most auras are ass lol)

[quiet laurel]

its one of the best auras

[solar reef]

if you have no in-kit corrosive or armor strip its probably the best aura slot

[pallid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[sonic folio]

Im not going into granum tax again...

[mighty flare]

remembering being told pistol amp > corrosive projection & growin power

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah hate corporates

[sonic folio]

Corporats

[wild rune]

oh god don't remind me

[solar reef]

Cata shields be damned my ass is STILL using brief respite

[quiet laurel]

In mean, at least for lecta thats true

[mighty flare]

it was not lecta

[velvet pulsar]

This is the best:

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1383826136428974100/togif.gif

[velvet pulsar]

[mighty flare]

remembering reb wanted more cursed mods

[pallid quiver]

Can’t drain shields if u have none just run persistence

[mighty flare]

maybe itll get an update or new auras

[sonic folio]

Would have been cool if amps weren't fraud

[sonic folio]

Feels the aura*

[quiet laurel]

if DE messes with cursed mods that affect your team I'll legit never play public again

[pallid quiver]

Primer prime -> dead

[velvet pulsar]

Sure, then u have a useless aura mod, because it needs to drain shields to grant bonus

[quiet laurel]

I'll even lfg for relic cracking

[mighty flare]

mini multi serration mods

[bold estuary]

what shards does a voruna four build run? I was originally gonna use melee CD on her but im not sure that actually works with the ability

[solar reef]

Green

[pallid quiver]

Eh it NEEDS shields to drain?

That sucks ass nvm

[velvet pulsar]

My Primer Prime had a mesmer charge

[pallid quiver]

Oh

[bold estuary]

toxin damage or corrosive ability damage?

[solar reef]

Her 4 is entirely an ability. No weapon enhancing buffs work for it.

[pallid quiver]

What’s ur primer prime build?

[solar reef]

Ability Damage on Corrosive affected

[quiet laurel]

wait

[solar reef]

I would use 3-4 of those and maybe a casting shard

[quiet laurel]

does ability dmg on x status stack additively with each other or multiplicatively

[solar reef]

additively I believe

[solar reef]

you’d have to test

i absolutely hate her 4th so i’m sure as shit not testing

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-jawline-rizz-rizz-face-sigma-gif-15344650371968005580

[velvet pulsar]

Guardian
Manifold Bond
Primed Animal Instinct
Synth Deconstruct
Synergized Prospectus
Null Audit (Repo Audit is more reliable)
Momentous Bond
Reinforced Bond
Calculated Redirection
Vacuum

[bold estuary]

they taste like sour apple

[sonic folio]

Why is Cascade server filled with passive agressive chuds

[solar reef]

id drop one for casting speed

[quiet laurel]

why did you have 5x green taus available but like no other shards

[bold estuary]

my oraxia MIGHT have been mugged for these

[quiet laurel]

its just constant brainrot, nothing they say is serious, ya like it or dont

[bold estuary]

just maybe

[pallid quiver]

How many forma

[solar reef]

you could use purples or oranges too

[mighty flare]

too many larpers

[velvet pulsar]

2

[sonic folio]

Is that a black cat

[solar reef]

the main thing is just ability damage from status

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1483927282526585095/attachment.gif

[pallid quiver]

Voruna wants like 230 range right

For a usual build

[solar reef]

as much as possible

[pallid quiver]

Yk what that’s not bad

[solar reef]

its her most important stat

[pallid quiver]

And then full purple shards?

[bold estuary]

her 2 is her main thing so shed want as much as possible usually but im using her four so I want really high strength

[velvet pulsar]

The 5th dog of Voruna

[solar reef]

for a melee platformer yes

[round igloo]

What's a good build for hydroid?

[pallid quiver]

Grendel became a dog

[mighty flare]

casting speed important

[solar reef]

ok but you can slot both Augmented and Impetus

[solar reef]

not needed for a melee setup

[bold estuary]

yeah I have both of those as well

[mighty flare]

useful qol

[lavish orbit]

it works well ?

[bold estuary]

I need an exulis thingy for her so I can run cunning drift and use a comfy 160

[mighty flare]

no need to max out melee cd shards in any build

[astral tinsel]

wdym melee setup

[solar reef]

i used to feel that way but after swapping them off ages ago i just dont notice the difference

on a melee setup specifically

id still use them for casting setups

[astral tinsel]

are you just not using fangs at all

[quiet laurel]

just sell voruna for credits and use valkyr like

[mighty flare]

there's this thing where you can have multiple slots so yea run casting speed
would still run casting on melee setup

[quiet laurel]

no need to argue

[bold estuary]

full purple tau is really pretty to flex but yeah widely overkill'

[solar reef]

its just a fast enough cast i dont see the need

[versed harbor]

casting speed is cracked unless ur using madurai maybe

[solar reef]

ok but I could run purples for neuron activation

[pallid quiver]

So for voruna do I run equi for energy regen

[solar reef]

yes absolutely

[pallid quiver]

Since melee kills give health balls

[solar reef]

thats all you need for her sustain

[bold estuary]

yeah her three makes a ton of health orbs I use her three on my valk its so good

[pallid quiver]

Lowkey by the time I get back to my setup and start farming voruna prim im gonna forget malz’s build LOL

[pallid quiver]

Ooh yeah I subsumed her anyways

Is it more worth it than nourish?

[pallid quiver]

Thank you but I hate to break it to u I’m out of the country till like Sunday 😭😭

[solar reef]

so just steal the image

🧠

[pallid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-chando-plush-spin-yakuza-gif-2117963813316481639

[bold estuary]

probably not I just didnt want to be basic and use nourish

[pallid quiver]

Why more energy max

[bold estuary]

the cooldown is also really close to her 2

[pallid quiver]

Does she need it

[bold estuary]

she has like zero base energy LOL

[solar reef]

needs 500 base for purple shards

[pallid quiver]

Ah ok

[solar reef]

her prime does NOT need the blue

[bold estuary]

I think its like 120 or something horrible

[pallid quiver]

Does the prime not give more energy 😔

[bold estuary]

it does

[solar reef]

it does I just dont use the prime

[pallid quiver]

So with the prime I won’t need the blue?

[bold estuary]

513 with flow

[pallid quiver]

Sweet

Is archon flow better than prim

[bold estuary]

no im just a bum and dont have prime flow maxed

[solar reef]

why ready steel

[bold estuary]

I have yet to fix her god awful stance with forma

[solar reef]

its like a single energy orb every 30 seconds lol

[pallid quiver]

Wrong valence for steel charge

[pallid quiver]

Damn archon flow is HORRIBLE

[solar reef]

Steel Charge doesnt buff her 4

[bold estuary]

her polaritys are really bad😭

[pallid quiver]

I mean for general use voruna

[astral tinsel]

it's a premium large orb

[pallid quiver]

U want steel charge no?

[astral tinsel]

like 75 energy iirc lol

[solar reef]

theyre using their 4th

[bold estuary]

this is four voruna

[pallid quiver]

Fair

[solar reef]

you dont need more additive melee damage if your weapon is built right

[bold estuary]

im a dawg I wanna run around on all fours and bark at nullifer bubbles

[pallid quiver]

I see

[solar reef]

hence why I use brief respite

[bold estuary]

any recommendations btw malz for an aura Im debating corrosive and respite

[pallid quiver]

Guh brief respite

I gotta go and get respite

[bold estuary]

go and get aka open the market and buy it

[pallid quiver]

Can I swap rolling guard out for smth else or

[solar reef]

respite since you’re spam casting

[pallid quiver]

I’m slowly getting poor

[solar reef]

its just a comfortable panic button

you dont really need to assuming you’re copying my build

its wholistically just a comfort set up I’ve built up after years up swapping mods around on her

[pallid quiver]

I see

[solar reef]

it is equally as pleasant to use at level cap as it is as level 200

[pallid quiver]

Is her invis on command not enough

[solar reef]

sometimes its just not

[pallid quiver]

Tbf I haven’t gotten prep or rolling guard from arbis yet

[solar reef]

evedy now and then you just end up in a nulli bubble or theres an acolyte you arent paying attention to

[pallid quiver]

Oh fair

I gotta start doing arbis again

[solar reef]

so rolling guard gives you enough comfort to kill them since you one shot everything with heavy spam

then you just 1+2 for shield gate and you’re in a safe space again

always irks me when people say shes squishy because like

[bold estuary]

cant you just use her 4 panic button?

the passive i mean

[solar reef]

doesnt exist if you subsume it off

her 2 passive is so strong anyways I never take it off

[pallid quiver]

Which passive do u use if not the 4

What does the 2 do?

[solar reef]

her 2?

[bold estuary]

her 1 or twos Id imagine

[solar reef]

Its so insanely good

Her 1 is just for getting from exo to exo

[bold estuary]

her 2 is status immunity her one is parkour speed

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440505629549793290/1489085535598284932/kuvabert.gif

[solar reef]

her 2 passive is what you use 90% of the time

COMPLETE status immunity

including knockdowns, that sorts

Means you dont need Primed Sure Footed

[pallid quiver]

Oh INCLUDING knockdown

Now that’s insane

[solar reef]

no tox procs, no heat procs, no elec procs, no knockdown

super safe

[pallid quiver]

True that means I can use her against the evil toxin liches that plague me

[solar reef]

her 3 is obsolete atp since we all sorta just heavy spam with Galv Reflex so you can ignore it

[pallid quiver]

What do u subsume onto usually (when not wrathful advance)

[bold estuary]

due note it wont cleanse you so if your running and get clipped by toxin you will die

[pallid quiver]

Huh

[solar reef]

thats where rolling guard plays in

[pallid quiver]

Isn’t it permanent once u proc it tho?

[solar reef]

it doesnt Cleanse, it only prevents

so if you have the passive off, switching to it wont get rid of whats on you

[bold estuary]

you only get one passive at a time

[solar reef]

Thats why you want her 2 passive on as often as possible

[pallid quiver]

Ohhh ok

I mean I could just keep it on and never switch it off

[solar reef]

If you arent using WA you’d use Roar or Eclipse

[pallid quiver]

Then I’m just invulnerable to statuses

[solar reef]

assuming you’re still platforming

Roar will get you better results imo as it also just helps her as a status nuker

Eclipse is just for funny haha contagion stuff of whatever

[velvet pulsar]

(whatever = glaives)

[pallid quiver]

I’m quite far off of contagion anyways so

[solar reef]

or syam

or corufell

[pallid quiver]

Haven’t built a zaw and I have no clue how to get zaw arcanes either

[solar reef]

or any MultiCO setup

[solar reef]

largely unimportant you dont need them

in fact I find contgaion uncomfortable to use with her

[velvet pulsar]

Eclipse doesn't double dip those?

[solar reef]

no it doesnt

but if you’re using banes you might as well use it over roar

[velvet pulsar]

I spoke of glaives because those & contagion double dipped eclipse

[solar reef]

yes, which is why I led with Contagion

instead of the latterly mentioned weapons

[bold estuary]

Could also just use her new primed sig I’d imagine it’s good with her

[solar reef]

heavy blade snooze

[velvet pulsar]

Innate melee vortex

That's it

[solar reef]

i will say it got a really good CC boost

its like 30% base cc instead of 20%

3x multi instead of 2x multi

[velvet pulsar]

Oh right
30
3
30

[bold estuary]

But you’d use wrathful so it’s like whatever

[solar reef]

Its also, once again, a heavy blade

yucky yucky no thanks

[velvet pulsar]

Which means it benefits Magus Agress

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/1blocked-message-discord-meme-troll-brick-wall-gif-23392632

[bold estuary]

With wrathful advance existing and tons of ways to ! I want an arcane that turns cc beyond 300% into cd

[solar reef]

Go back to dohkram chud

magus aggres more like magus apiss

[bold estuary]

Or even just normal damage

[solar reef]

cc past 300 IS cd

Every crit tier is added crit damage

it doesnt stop at 300

[velvet pulsar]

U right
This will buff it better than magus agress:

[fierce lark]

it doesn’t stop period

[mild prism]

Idk what I’m doing wrong but with all this stuff I still have almost died several times in lvl 60 missions what am I doing wrong

[solar reef]

stop relying on health shield value

[bold estuary]

Isn’t it 100% yellow 200% orange 300% red and everything past that isn’t a damage increase? It just adds ! Marks?

[solar reef]

learn how to shield gare

[solar reef]

no lmao its just that its not visually represented past tier 6 crits

EVERY crit tier added the CD bonus

[astral tinsel]

get a better weapon than regular zarr

[bold estuary]

Well now I feel like a goober

[astral tinsel]

that thing is irredeemable

[velvet pulsar]

You want it to change color further?

[solar reef]

if you had 3000% cc you’d apply it 30 times

[mild prism]

Well that and I’m just not hitting dmg, I was in the zariman and those ghost things took so many slams from slampotes to kill it

[fierce lark]

think about how ungodly dogshit kullervo would be if this were true

[solar reef]

its why Kullervo can hit so much higher numbers with WA than everyone else does

[velvet pulsar]

333% strength for 666% CC

[solar reef]

persistence + og makes him pretty comfortable atp

[bold estuary]

I lowkey don’t know what kulls version of WA is I bought him leveled and threw him in the chair without looking ngl does he get more cc or something?

[solar reef]

its just higher numbers

[velvet pulsar]

Double

[fierce lark]

wrathful advance scales final cc by 2x his ability strength

it would do basically nothing if cc hard capped at 300, and WA is the entire reason you play kullervo

[solar reef]

ive seen people hit like 1500% cc out of it

[velvet pulsar]

And more teleportation range

[bold estuary]

That frame is not real man😭 “yeah go ahead and take a free 2000 crit chance on melee weapons”

[velvet pulsar]

Ever heard of Midas Touch?

[solar reef]

maybe?

[velvet pulsar]

He even makes snipers good

And for some reason DE has been gradually boosting snipers as if prepping something

[solar reef]

we already know what it is

[bold estuary]

We’re skipping straight to cyte prime of course

[solar reef]

We’re getting an incarnon sniper

[fierce lark]

vectis Incarnon soon

[bold estuary]

Oh that’d be neat if the incarnon isn’t just “becomes a machine gun” or “every bolt is now a 20m explosive”

[velvet pulsar]

That also opens options for other sniper incarnons because many didn't think sniper incarnons were possible because of their gimmick

[solar reef]

“Headshots bounce to other enemies heads” would be really fun

[bold estuary]

I would actually love that ngl

[fierce lark]

being completely honest, it’s probably gonna end up being one of the worst incarnons unless they do something very boring with it

[bold estuary]

But I don’t think they’d do it since that’s kinda cytes exalted thing

[solar reef]

who knows just gotta hope and pray

[bold estuary]

Woah dude the stug is still right there it wouldn’t be hard for it to come out the worst

[fierce lark]

snipers are mostly awful, and the main reason is usability

[velvet pulsar]

"turn enemies themselves into projectiles"

[solar reef]

i’m hoping Destreza Incarnon ends up making “bullets” in the direction you stab

[velvet pulsar]

+15m melee range, give or take

[fierce lark]

so unless they completely gut the sniper part and turn it into either a machinegun of some kind or something that explodes, it’ll probably suck

[bold estuary]

Something like the really big shotgun from enter the gungeon you activate incarnon mode and suck in all the enemies for ammo

[solar reef]

enemies struck by it pull enemies nearby (15-20m) would be cool

would at least give it niche for grouping

[velvet pulsar]

Looter incarnon

[wise yew]

Someone could suggest me a build to xoris I’m a beginner with arcane influence

[mild prism]

But if I don’t I die

[solar reef]

learn how to shield gate

[mild prism]

I was left at 130 heath during my zariman mission

[solar reef]

you’re already struggling with health and shield even at that level

how do you think it will do when you’re playing harder content

[fierce lark]

or don't

shieldgating is nowhere close to necessary unless you're doing heavy endurance, and it's not even recommended pre steel path

[solar reef]

Shield and health numbers become obsolete

[solar reef]

they’re dying even while using vitality + redirection + adaptation

atp just learn to shieldgate

[fierce lark]

that sounds like "im standing there and letting things shoot me"

because they also have arcane blessing

[velvet pulsar]

Don't worry I'll say something offensive now to stop this

[solar reef]

against base path enemies mind you

[velvet pulsar]

"I'm gonna use Persistence on Voruna"

[solar reef]

see if this was a warthunder server i would have just called you a slur

i might call you one anyways for that

[mild prism]

Nope, I was running around d using slampotes and because those ghost things wouldnt die despite slamming into them 7 times I was just in there face taking the dmg

[velvet pulsar]

See, crisis averted

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-frustrated-speed-over-it-speed-crash-out-speed-crashing-out-crash-out-gif-12382450018351543960

[mild prism]

Not talking about their ghost form btw I know you need Tenno for that

[fierce lark]

slampotes with several combo mods and no slam mods

[quiet laurel]

do it anyways no mod looks in builds discussion anyway

[mild prism]

Very helpful thank you

[solar reef]

you can tell, Mc was talking how they think Loki is great and had never even heard of Safeguard/Dmg decoy

the only two reasons hes good

[mild prism]

Motus impact and only 2 mods with their secondary effect being combos

[wary forge]

He’s invisible the entire mission how is that bad

[quiet laurel]

I just feel like everyone associated with DE doesnt know builds

[solar reef]

because thats literally it

[wary forge]

That’s all you need to be good tho

[solar reef]

Thats all you need to sit there and not die

sure

[wary forge]

You deal more damage when you’re invisible btw

[solar reef]

But you can do that even better with Safeguard switch and also damage decoy is insane as a whole

[wary forge]

And not to mention the 20+ synergies

[solar reef]

thats cool and all but that alone doesnt justify using him

[wary forge]

Ye he has this in addition to be invisible

[wary forge]

I mean it does tho

[solar reef]

like theres 8-10 frames that can be invisible

Like I LOVE loki lets not pretend that ability makes him good

[bold estuary]

I can put evade on anyone and chill invis while popping heads as harrow being invis isn’t really a niche anymore

[solar reef]

loki IS good but not for the invis

Hell its not even his best survivability tool

[wary forge]

If you’re up keeping evade in a 4 man squad ur team is terrible

[solar reef]

this sounds like a skill issue on your part

[velvet pulsar]

Is evade required in 4 person squad?

[wary forge]

You just don’t upkeep evade when ur in a squad

[velvet pulsar]

Think about that

[solar reef]

i mean I do all the time when I take harrow and Titania to level cap

[velvet pulsar]

That's a good thing

[solar reef]

I never have issues with evade

[wary forge]

Evade on Titania

I mean solo it’s good yes

[solar reef]

I take it in squads

[velvet pulsar]

No enemy to kill, no one killing u

[wary forge]

In a squad of void cascade you dont upkeep it

If you do your team is terrible

[fierce lark]

motus impact affects "aerial melee", that means melee attacks while you're in the air

[solar reef]

“I take it here all the time” “here you cant use it”

[velvet pulsar]

Then you're not taking dmg

[fierce lark]

it doesn't affect slams, slam attacks happen on the ground

[mild prism]

Shoot

[wary forge]

It’s still a good ability don’t get me wrong status cleanse and invisibly is just good generally

[fierce lark]

and i dont think slams are affected by melee range anyway

[wary forge]

But saying that u upkeep in squads is just not true

[mild prism]

What are good slam mods

[solar reef]

I mean I’d say if we can run to 120 exos in like 50-60 minutes while upkeeping it no issues its fine

it kinda just sounds like you WANT it to be worse than it is

Unless your host is at 20fps you shouldnt have issues getting headshots

[fierce lark]

slam build should look something like this, if you don't want to use umbrals you can use primed pressure + galv steel instead

[solar reef]

it takes like 20 kpm to upkeep evade

literal scraps

if you cant achieve that, your squad definitely isnt the issue

[wary forge]

2x efficiency mods are required for slam so you don’t lose combo

[solar reef]

dont need it, galv reflex

[wary forge]

Galv reflex isn’t enough you’re still gonna lose combo

[solar reef]

its initial combo

you cant lose it

[fierce lark]

initial combo takes a second to build

[solar reef]

By the time you’re ready to heavy again you’re back at the Galv Reflex’s hand out

[wary forge]

Interesting

[fierce lark]

but you don't need more heff than reflex for slams

you kinda do for heavy spam/glaives

you spend enough time jumping up to build slam radius that your combo should regen back to 80 before you slam

[wary forge]

Why would you not heavy slam tho

[fierce lark]

you do?

[solar reef]

you ARE heavy slamming

[wary forge]

Yes exactly

[fierce lark]

heavy spam is what i said, not slam

as in harmony

[wary forge]

So then why not run corrupt charge and 90% efficiency

You’re perma 8x the entire mission

[solar reef]

you can slot galv reflex in one mod

[fierce lark]

8x?

you get 5x from reflex and 6x if you add corrupt charge

[solar reef]

and corrupt charge only 30 combo

[fierce lark]

if you add ready steel on top of that you'd be at 7x, you're not getting to 8 without a riven

[mild prism]

Slams count as heavy attacks?

[wary forge]

You do tho

[solar reef]

theres slams and theres heavy slams

[fierce lark]

heavy slams are heavy attacks, and are the only slams you should ever do

[mild prism]

Those are the wide range ones correct?

[wary forge]

On magistar you do

[mild prism]

That’s all I’ve been doing

[wary forge]

Every other slam is cope

[fierce lark]

magistar is an incarnon weapon with an initial combo evolution

[wary forge]

Yes

[fierce lark]

and there are plenty of slam weapons that are good that aren't magistar

[sonic folio]

Is hotshot cheaper now since it's been a while it cameout

[fierce lark]

don't be weird

[solar reef]

“I’m going to use this specific example that is unique and doesnt apply to anything else as a general point”

[wary forge]

It’s like 380-400

[sonic folio]

Per 1 arcane?

[fierce lark]

slightly, max ranked ones are currently 440 at cheapest

[wary forge]

Nah for maxed

Per 1 is like 15-20 on wfm p sure

[violet silo]

maxed. paying for a single hotshot is weird af

[sonic folio]

It is indeed cheap when it came out it was like 100 per one

[solar reef]

maybe you just need one or two of em

its not weird

[violet silo]

for 20 plat it's kinda weird

[sonic folio]

I found out pet heat damage also count up hotshot

[solar reef]

is it not weirder to buy a full one when you only need a few?

[wary forge]

This is true but if your not using an incarnon with initial and slam radius it’s not worth imo you’re gonna get more kpm on a random light attack build

[violet silo]

I wouldn't buy hotshot at all...

[sonic folio]

You're indeed chud

[violet silo]

it's not necessary enough to me to warrant paying 20 for one or 400 for a maxed copy.

[wary forge]

You don’t need a rank 5 hot shot bro

Rank 2 is plenty

[fierce lark]

we're not gonna have the kpm argument because that conversation will boil down to "if you play anything other than sevagoth you're trolling"

[violet silo]

how is it chud to just get my own arcanes

[wary forge]

U can just use a rank 1 and it’s still value

[sonic folio]

If god didn't wanted it maxxed it wouldn't added more than level 2

[wary forge]

like anything can work in sp just like in terms of being optimal there’s just no reason to do a slam build on a non slam based weapon unless u just want to for fun I guess that was really my point

[sonic folio]

Anyways im fine putting on molt augment+blessing , give me powa give me health

[fierce lark]

warframe is not competitive, the only thing that matters is that the player is enjoying their experience, minmaxing dmg or kpm is something regular people don't have to worry about most of the time

[wary forge]

True

[sonic folio]

I do this with every frame i own

[wary forge]

Running around with infested mobility and slamming is fun for me lowk

[solar reef]

this is in regards to sampotes

[fierce lark]

when someone comes in with the complaint that they can't kill anything/are dying too easily there are different avenues to explore, but "use a different weapon" should be reserved for when the weapon is actually bad xd

like the base zarr is pretty forgettable, but slampotes is a real thing

[solar reef]

which IS a slam weapon

a notably good one at that

[sonic folio]

Larpotes

[wary forge]

You can make a Xoris slam build and have it kill sp really doenst matter

[solar reef]

your whole argument has just been “This is wrong because its not how I build magistar” when we’re talking about something that isnt magistar. When we mention this you just divert to straw mans like “you CAN do this with other things BUT…”

[velvet pulsar]

This reminds me of the unholy Halikar Wraith slam build which used melee vortex

[solar reef]

while ultimately avoiding the main point that is “this is a slam oriented weapon”

[wary forge]

But it’s like why would you mod a Xoris as a slam weapon when it’s glaive and just more effective to throw it

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/larping-roblox-rolimons-rolimons-larping-roblox-larping-gif-1586458826293071172

[brittle sleet]

Trolling 101

[solar reef]

“I’m going to say things that make me sound dumb! I really trolled him!”

[fierce lark]

layers of optimizing is up to the player to decide where they draw the line

"there is an objectively correct way to build this weapon" is usually true

"there is an objectively better weapon to use" is also usually true

some people want to use certain weapons, some other people want to make certain weapons do certain things, trying to balance what you want to do vs what works is part of the build experience

but if you have no clue how to actually build things to be good, you run into homie's issue of "idk wtf im doing and im getting run over help"

[wary forge]

That just isn’t my point my point is why would you slam on another weapon that isnt like magistar or sibear it just isn’t “optimal” like yes it works but anything can get 200 kpm in steel path so it just doesn’t mater

[solar reef]

Sampotes is literally a gold-standard for slam spam

[brittle sleet]

Imagine using Tenet Exec without slamming it

[fierce lark]

you literally answered your own question with the last 4 words

[solar reef]

Like you’re pretending theres not at least a dozen phenomenal weapons slam spam

like I agree with the “it doesnt matter thing”

But I dont know why you’re pretending there arent insanely good slam spam weapons that arent incarnon

[fierce lark]

also lol, the person in question said they were dying to level 60 enemies

that means they aren't in steel path yet, so they don't even have incarnons

and the sibear is 30k cryotic to craft, brother i don't even have that yet, and it is also an incarnon weapon

[solar reef]

Like it is not only deisgned for slam but is genuinely just an insanely good example of an effective slam stick looks like

[velvet pulsar]

Does stance slam also trigger shockwave?

[wary forge]

Why would you use a slam weapon that doesn’t have an incarnon that gives it more slam radius I don’t want to be jumping 100ft in the air to get a realistic slam radius it’s just gonna be less kpm

[solar reef]

which is fine but dont pretend like its not a great slam option

[wary forge]

Any hammer can slam at the end of the day it’s just not as effective compared to incarnons the slam radius nerf really did make slams without a big radius just a lot worse

[solar reef]

by that standard literally every weapon sucks because syam or contagion can do it at a longer distance

[fierce lark]

have you ever played a non-lvlcap mission with any weapon loadout other than torid dtox ichor?

if yes, you've answered your own question

[wary forge]

Yes

[solar reef]

Even at level cap its unbelievably usable

its one of three slam spam weapons I’ve taken to cap

[velvet pulsar]

Is ichor the new magistar situation?

[fierce lark]

torid falls off a bit without buffs but anything besides lvlcap it deletes the screen instantly

[solar reef]

even at level cap it just needs a little pick-me-up

[wary forge]

It’s moot point anything can get 200 kpm doesn’t matter it’s just purely semantics

[fierce lark]

dual ichor is just an insane dps melee that works with influence, you can replace it with okina or nami solo and have the same convo

[velvet pulsar]

Vortex ichor has self sustaining spread though

[wary forge]

You can take p much any melee to cap even without a melee frame melees are just that broken

[mighty flare]

this is for sampotes?

[fierce lark]

ye

[mighty flare]

mm

waves dont scale off combo tho

[fierce lark]

had to freehand it, never built anything slam wise other than magi

[mighty flare]

are you just spamming it for the waves?

[fierce lark]

🤔

tf do you do with it then, remove reflex for more dmg?

[solar reef]

Would the final result still not be higher from the actual slam benefitting from the IC

[wary forge]

If you’re just wave spamming it then ye

[mighty flare]

if ur only spamming for the waves, no point in ic

[velvet pulsar]

That would be focused less on wavemaxing

[solar reef]

Like yeah the waves do less damage but ultimately you’d just wind up with more dps

[fierce lark]

if you're gonna use a weapon with a gimmick you may as well play into the gimmick xd

[mighty flare]

if ur hitting slam, you'd honestly wanna use a diff weapon
like tenet exec, coda motovore, arca titron, etc

that new voruna one is ok

forgot name

[solar reef]

my slam weapon of choice is and always will be Coda Mire

[velvet pulsar]

Even so, I don't think exec waves increase status chance either

[wary forge]

Coda mort is a cope slammer

[solar reef]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-and-quiet-dog-gif-9215234337880225861

[mighty flare]

they scale off combo but no status chance

[wary forge]

Just build it attack speed with influence

[mighty flare]

tenet exec and sampotes are sorta opposites in that sense

[wary forge]

I tried full impact slam build it just gets out classed hardcore by influence

[velvet pulsar]

FangSaro

[solar reef]

its a really cool weapon but I just really dont understand what niche its supposed to fall into

[mighty flare]

the larp never ends

[fierce lark]

mote slam gets to be funny with primed heavy trauma

[wary forge]

Yeah you can hit damage cap very easily with chroma

[solar reef]

because its not really advertised as a slam weapon it just sorta has to be there

[wary forge]

Just go every impact mod

[mighty flare]

[velvet pulsar]

We just can't have everything

[maiden cargo]

whats the lv 9999 build for coda bubico

[solar reef]

boobico

what did coda boob even get

[velvet pulsar]

I've been seeing Blast electric for some reason

[solar reef]

any SC buff?

[maiden cargo]

im also electric

seems im in right path

[mild prism]

@fierce lark Your slam build had primed fever strike, is this not sampotes?

[wary forge]

It has good base stats an u can just give it electric and influence like yeah giving it impact gives it a lot of single target and attack speed but like at the end of the day it’s a hammer that can go Eltric

[maiden cargo]

1 sec leme post my build after this miission'

[velvet pulsar]

Spin-to-win Crushing Ruin

[wary forge]

Most slam builds do it’s a filler mod mainly gives you a lot of damage with exposure but if u don’t have it just normal not a big deal

[mild prism]

Gotcha

[solar reef]

See thats why I dont get it
like it doesnt do anything cool gimmick wise that makes you want to use it as a slam spammer but its so slow that like it just seems jank as an influence Light-Tennokai deal

[wary forge]

It’s nice for like high level corpus missions 2 but ur prob not gonna be into that

[solar reef]

i genuinely just dont get it

[fierce lark]

if you don't own primed fever you can honestly put whatever tf there

[mild prism]

Bet

[fierce lark]

if you don't have melee exposure you need an elemental mod tho

[solar reef]

like its gimmick IS cool I just dont know where its supposed to play into anything other than a funny stat sheet

[fierce lark]

second revision

because combo sucks (and gladiator might probably also sucks)

[wary forge]

Yeah it’s weird how the impact gives it attack speed like if the puncture did then like it would actually make sense to build it like that somewhat it’s just weird idk but I mean it’s good tho

[maiden cargo]

did you try truth

[solar reef]

like yeah its good

i just dont like how weird of a position its in usage wise

like its awkward in all the things its good at

[fierce lark]

if you're talking about the tennokai mod this is for a slam weapon

[solar reef]

middle-brother treatment if you get me

[maiden cargo]

yes, the new tennokai truth for heavy slam build

[wary forge]

Coda caustic is the same way the heavy attack just feels awkward to use and clunky and just gets outclassed by a normal light attack build cause it just really inflated base stats its gimmick is really just an added bonus when you do a tenokai attack

[solar reef]

Ok but caustycst is fun as a melee primer/stripper

[maiden cargo]

should keep your combo up

[solar reef]

i use it for gasfluence corrosive

[velvet pulsar]

Is the pool affected by WA?

[wary forge]

It has inate corrosive perfect for influence

And it’s like 3m base range

It’s base stats are lowk insane

[velvet pulsar]

Too bad it copied a horrible infested attack

Disgusting on the floor

[wary forge]

What’s WA wrathful advance

It has some weird scaling like it’s not multi co but stuff like eclipse and vex armor multi it

[solar reef]

the projectile is I dont believe the puddle DOT is

[wary forge]

I’d have to check again on the wiki it’s weird tho

You can build it heavy attack based it just feels weird aiming it just really cringe lowk

[velvet pulsar]

Coz wiki says the base CC for pool is 0%

[solar reef]

thats my only issue with it

it goes in the wrong direction a lot

[wary forge]

It’s super weird cause it like drops

Ye

It’s really just an added bonus when you tenokai attack

[mighty flare]

Sampotes’ slam wave gimmick doesn’t scale with combo

[maiden cargo]

i see

[scenic glen]

Anyone know how to boost my dmg with this i got the incarnon and all but i feel like i do no dmg to lvl 105 i tried one run with it on steelpath and it went terrible pls ping me if u have any advices (for some reason i was doing red crits for like 20 second and then nothing like my dmg spiked and then went back)

[wary forge]

Aptitude and elementalist are not that effect on Burston incarnon

You wanna aim for headshots so you can use something by like argon scope and deadhead for a lot of damage if your using burston to aoe clear then it’d not as needed

Incarnon is inate heat just go cryo rounds for cold and then make magnetic with high voltage to help the main burston do single target

[ornate galleon]

Mann looking at the 3 options for the burst prime incarnon it’s really difficult

[crisp lance]

Still tweaking but any advice to improve my build?

^This is my main loadout

[wary forge]

Gotta be using shock trooper on volt

[crisp lance]

Need to get the 500k credits to get to rank 5 lol

[wary forge]

I’ll be home in like 2 hours

I can sauce u it lowkey

Also

[crisp lance]

That would be amazing lol its pretty much all I’m getting to rank 5 for right now

[wary forge]

When it comes to building for survival ability you want to either go into health or shields not both u get me

[wary forge]

Yeah I don’t mind I can just get it for like 20k standing or whatever

[crisp lance]

I know I just don’t have anything better to replace umbral with

Need some more primed mods/more specific mods I guess

[wary forge]

Then don’t run them

Do you know what shield gating is

[crisp lance]

Nope

I’ve asked maybe 30x today and no one will answer me

[wary forge]

About what shield gating is or

[crisp lance]

Yeah

[wary forge]

Ok

[crisp lance]

I’ve heard the term but have no clue what it is

[wary forge]

I’ll explain it best I can but you can just look it up on yt

So u have ur shield

And when it breaks u get immunity the immunity is based on how much shield you have

Shield gating refers to using the augur mods/brief respite which give you shields when you cast abilities

[crisp lance]

Yeah I get 2.4 seconds on break

[wary forge]

Ye you can combine that with recharge mods

Which make your shields recharge faster

[crisp lance]

Ohhhhhhh I get it

Basically if I can make them recharge before the invulnerability is out yeah?

[wary forge]

Yep then you’re basically immortal

[crisp lance]

Ok ok that makes so much sense

[wary forge]

Most people do what’s called lazy gating

[crisp lance]

Just a shit ton of shield?

[wary forge]

The opposite

So Catalyzing reduces your shields by 80% and gives you a 1.33 second shield gate no matter how many shields you have

Hold on I’ll send a clip

[crisp lance]

Ok

[wary forge]

Ok it’s this

There’s an arcane as well called arcane aegis

That gives you more recharge

[crisp lance]

I’ve heard the name from a few streamers

[wary forge]

But yeah any frame can lazy gate as long as they have shields

[crisp lance]

More like this?

[wary forge]

Tbh tho on volt

As long as you have your shield up

You should be fine

[wary forge]

Like yeah lowkey that’s all u should need

[crisp lance]

My nautilus usually boosts me too lmao

[wary forge]

Go shock topper over accord an ur gonna be good

[crisp lance]

Ok awesome

[wary forge]

But yeah that’s basically lazy gating

[crisp lance]

Thank you for explaining that I was so lost

[wary forge]

Active shield gating is casting abilities to shield gate like with the augur mods like I said

[crisp lance]

The game had changed so much sine I last played like 4 years ago so a lot of the simple things I don’t know

Oh I cast shock and discharge like my life depends on it

Equilibrium and flow got me covered there

[wary forge]

U can shield gate pretty easily on volt by just using catalyzing shields and a augur mod while spamming 2

[crisp lance]

Lol fr

[wary forge]

You just have to actively be paying attention

[crisp lance]

Especially anything 1999

[wary forge]

Yep

Once your shield breaks just pres 2 you’ll get your shields back and then repeat

[crisp lance]

💀No way I gotta see this in action

[wary forge]

U have to have Catalyzing shields tho but ye

[crisp lance]

Thats just the other augment mod yeah?

[crisp lance]

Oml it’s actually called shield gate in game 😭

[wary forge]

It reduces your shields by 80% so like basically

If you have the augur mods which convert 40% of your energy to shields

You shield is only gonna be like 60-80

And so if u cast an ability

Tor gonna get all your shields back

And keep getting the 1.3 gate

[crisp lance]

and the capacity from abilities is basically unlimited so wow that’s broken 😭

[wary forge]

And on volt is super chill cause ur 2 doenst interrupt anything

And like if need be u can just spam it

[crisp lance]

So this is true game theory lol

I usually use speed and shield anyways for the extra crit

[wary forge]

But I mean relesticly on volt the speed plus ur shield should be enough

[crisp lance]

I just get max energy and start spamming, equilibrium keeps me level

[wary forge]

Shield gating is more for safety in highever levels

[crisp lance]

Yeah thats where I’m struggling rn

Alright well I’m gonna test this out lol, today’s a grind day

[wary forge]

Yeah look it up on YouTube

But ye it’s a very effective way to survive

Only thing is u have to be actively playing the game and paying attention

Lazy gating is just u do nothing but it’s more mod slots and less consistent

[crisp lance]

Oml I’m basically invincible

[fierce lark]

cata shields gates for 1.33s regardless of the amount restored, it’s bugged

has been for years

[wary forge]

Yep

At this point is it even a bug

[median dagger]

looking for build inspo for nova, idrk the play styles or what helminth abilities are good for her, any guide or explanation on her different play styles would be tuff, preesh

[crisp lance]

This is literally the change that needed to be made for me to do these missions wth

Havent died once💀

[stone folio]

i have an interesting question, how does nourish augment work on other frames, do you only remove status effects or do you also get a 5s status immunity

[wary forge]

Augment doesn’t work on other frames

[stone folio]

ah ok, thanks

[cursive sequoia]

With her higher armor is a persistence build feasible on voruna prime?

[maiden cargo]

umm i think i am missing something i keep dying hmm

[solar reef]

why would you want to

shes such a comfortable frame for shield gating in both of her main playstyles

like I’m sure you could do some backwater build for it but it just seems like a waste

[cursive sequoia]

Oh I havent playe much of voruna. She went straight into the helminth after I was done leveling her

[solar reef]

she needs one mod to gate comfortably

Her 1 is invisibility and her 2 is super spammable

[brave pecan]

How strong are we thinking sarofang prime is

Heavy blades are mid rn I know but it would be nice if it was decent

[solar reef]

stat sheet wise its good

like its nothing that screams “holy shit!”

but its good

went from 20% CC to 30% CC, and 2x CD to 3x CD

if you wanted to slam spam a heavy blade it would be your best choice I guess

[opal leaf]

Well there is one sword... It's not a heavy blade but it would look like one

.... Totally unrelated to what you just said hahahaha

It's thee Zenistar with the Chroma Pack Skin

[maiden cargo]

my gosh toxic keeps 1 hit me hahaha

[warm obsidian]

Any idea on why Thermal sunder nuke builds for Gauss have low strength?

[high turtle]

Most broken mirage subsume?

[rocky mason]

Say that to my tenet exec

[rocky mason]

For what weapon

[high turtle]

Falcor

Glaive

[rocky mason]

Wrathful advance

Somehow that one doesn't have a limitation with eclipse

[high turtle]

Ohhh

[limpid belfry]

am i weird, that i never used or tried melee influence?

[rocky mason]

It's not weird

[limpid belfry]

i've been seeing a lot of people using it

and it's broken too apparently

[rocky mason]

It is

[limpid belfry]

lemme dissolve a bunch of arcanes and buy packs from Loid

and try it for my self

[rocky mason]

You can just farm cavia standing and buy from bird 3

[limpid belfry]

oh, that would be easier yea

[opal leaf]

Wdym? Why they have like somewhat 40% ability sttength?

[versed harbor]

ye gauss can kill cap without strength

[opal leaf]

As long as you have 100% battery youre good

But I like to have at least 100% for that kinetic plate... Just my preference

[warm obsidian]

So just focus on Range and Duration then?

[daring zealot]

Question chat, if I have viral + electricity on a weapon (say, primed fever strike and voltaic strike), will that always proc corrosive, or can it proc electricity/corrosive individually?

[gray quarry]

No, always corro

[daring zealot]

I see

Thank you twin

i can't tell if im cooking or not

I'm not really the best at making builds

[daring zealot]

because most of them are using molt augmented which permanently boosts strength for each kill you get. R5 molt augmented buffs your strength by 60% at 250 kills, and a minmaxed gauss build will have 40% strength from overextended

Asides from swapping continuity for primed continuity and finishing ranking up arcane aegis and the rest of the mods, this is basically THE sundernuke minmax build

[warm obsidian]

So no Thermal Transfer?

[daring zealot]

I think thermal transfer is used more for weapons platform gauss builds

This build is specifically for spamming his 3

Though to be honest, I actually have no idea if thermal transfer can buff his own 3, it'd be kinda crazy if it could

[daring zealot]

but it's not really needed, gauss built this way is already very strong at max molt augmented w/ redline ESPECIALLY if you're using a heat inherit primer

If you wanna get really funny you can also use zenurik's hardened wellspring to make your casts stronger

[versed harbor]

madurai sling strength better for that but strength rly doesnt matter

even at 40% no molt augmented u can nuke

[dense abyss]

What the best build for Raijack right now?

Someone have it?

[daring zealot]

i always forget the madurai one exists lol

but ye you can nuke at 40% you just have to cast heat like 6 times before cold

[violet silo]

it’ll get easier w kills

[lavish orbit]

Just put whatever mod no jutsu, after you need to farm lower level to higher to get MK2, MK3 parts and upgrade your ship, the turret depends of what you prefer to use

[violet silo]

that’s why you use sling strength

cuz it gives you the jump ahead to start killing

[violet silo]

not for nuke

[violet silo]

thermal transfer only applies to weapons

[daring zealot]

I thought so

[spice willow]

What 3 status effects are good with fulmin in everyday play? Also are there any weapons from mr0-6 that have high status chance and crit chance and are also good late game? Fulmin is good, but it has low status and crit chance

[edgy flume]

is there any way to make chroma work for high level content?

[edgy flume]

idk if its still good but if ur in a clan with the blueprint the ignis wraith used to be rlly good when i was starting out

[spice willow]

I'm mr 5, apparently ignis wrath is mr9

[edgy flume]

let me have a quick look at whats available at mr5

[edgy flume]

try the atomos secondary its ok and the hek shotgun for primar atterax is decent for melee too

[hard sparrow]

Does Galv aptitude not work on incarnons?

[edgy flume]

yes it does i think

[hard sparrow]

I’m reading multiple posts about how it doesn’t work with Burston prime Incarnon

[wide mason]

Does anyone have an absolute peak Voruna Prime Ulfrun's Descent build? My current one I don't struggle with too much when combo is maxed out (could be better though), but to actually build the combo.. kinda falls flat. Do ping me if anyone has a viable SP build

[hard sparrow]

You can get the regular Ignis

The wraith is the upgraded version

[edgy flume]

i forgot about that ngl i forgot it was mr5

[gray quarry]

On some no, on most yes

[hard sparrow]

Burston Prime Incarnon?

[gray quarry]

No work on it

[hard sparrow]

Replacement?

[gray quarry]

Base damage mod works

[wild rune]

Galvanized Aptitude as well as the other variants do still work, but they do not buff the additional base damage given by the second evolution.
On some, where the damage increase by the second evolution is quite a large bonus, it works much less than it should, and is often dropped as a result

[hard sparrow]

Yeah I know I just want to make sure and find an alternative mod

[gray quarry]

Base damage mod(serration, hornet strike, whatever the shotgun one is)

[wild rune]

primed point blank because regular point blank is useless

[gray quarry]

Actually true

Primed point blank should be what base point blank should’ve been, then just stringer

[torpid ember]

what do you think? It‘s pretty good

[wild rune]

[fiery totem]

can we fix the disconnecting issue everyone is getting kicked during missions

[gray quarry]

10/10

[wild rune]

you wanna pay for more servers?

[gray quarry]

I see that plat, can ya spare some? I offer fish

[torpid ember]

Clem? Clem No!

[gray quarry]

[torpid ember]

[gray quarry]

I offer fish for plat, been robbing some poor sucker of tinks

[torpid ember]

I have enough haha. Crafted everything in the game that requires fishing

[gray quarry]

You haven’t heard of the underground fish market then

[torpid ember]

hm will I get my 2nd voruna prime 10 omni forma too?

[torpid ember]

my friend is a big part of it

since I know it.. I keep distance

[gray quarry]

[spice willow]

Since ignis is a flamethrower, would deal more crit than fulmin

[tidal parrot]

wait, but youve been getting tinks from me😭

[gray quarry]

nu uh, not you

[tidal parrot]

oh ok

[gray quarry]

[solar reef]

whats the first rule of fight club

[gray quarry]

never talk about fight club

[spice willow]

Does ignis technically do more damage than fulmin because it does more dps

And because of how its a flamethrower it would deal more crits

[tidal parrot]

im prty sure fulmin (in shotgun mode) does more damage generally, especially with galvanized aptitude, however the ignis is a decent status weapon that can apply lots of heat stacks which (if i remember correctly) is where most of its damage comes from

[karmic badger]

Ignis also begins to fall off hard once you start treading into steel path

[tidal parrot]

it can actually kill on steel path (without external buffs) however it doesnt feel very killy imop as it has low damage and ends up killing by means of lots of heat stacks rather than actually doing a significant amount of damage

i personally dont find it fun but atleast base level steel path missions its good enough for non-acolyte/boss things

[unique flower]

Can y'all give me some thoughts on this build just got Arcane Hot Shot and thought of an idea for Loki

[gray quarry]

Not enough forma

[celest prawn]

had anyone else tested voruna 2 with archon vitality? is it still not procing double the 20 heat procs?

[cursive peak]

Unless I'm mistaken, which I might be, that won't proc Archon Vitality because it just applies stacks, not 'heat damage'. Heat damage instances get doubled, whether they proc a heat stack or not.

Heat stacks cause 0 damage on application, and must tick to apply damage, at which point, the heat proc caused heat damage, not the ability

[worthy bridge]

Dude I’ve been running ignis like crazy on lower levels 60-80 feeling like it does ok, this is good info to know I might need to find a more decent weapon option for steel path. Is there any beam weapons someone might recommend for it?