builds-discussion

[wary forge]

So there’s basically 2 ways to build glaves there’s a 12x combo build where you get 12x combo and spam light attack or a heavy attack build where you detonate spam but you’re not gonna be at 12x combo

Nah it’s when u detonate the glave

[sweet parrot]

actually I just hold the left mnouse button and pray

and I thought that works

[wary forge]

Then yeah ur build does nothing for that

That’s fine if u do that

But ur build is designed to be detonating your glaive

[sweet parrot]

so how to do a heavy attack I mean what button on the mouse

[wary forge]

You just press the heavy attack button while it’s in the air throwing

And it blows it up

[sweet parrot]

well the funny thing is idk what is the heavy attack button

[wary forge]

It’s your scroll wheel on your mouse bf default

[sweet parrot]

so it is when I just do like a plunge attack

[wary forge]

Nah your glaive explodes in the air

[sweet parrot]

then it is not that because when I do the scroll it just goes to the ground

[wary forge]

Like you slam

The glaive has to be in the air like you throw it and while it’s in the air you do a heavy attack

[sweet parrot]

are there just builds where you throw it

because I dont think I am ever gonna find out how that heavy attack works

[shell river]

any recommended changes to the build? just got this riven

[stark socket]

Any Glaive Prime builds suggest ?

[granite ginkgo]

honestly speaking, u better wait for it incarnon to release first

unsure what the incarnon passive stat will be

[fluid condor]

any strong ahh rubico prime builds that can one shot anything?

[opal leaf]

That buuld will. Definetly do no damage... Hold on let me pull up a build

[opal leaf]

https://overframe.gg/build/618917/xoris/xoris-falcor-x5-heavy-spam-influence/

Replace Primed Faction into Power Throw as what was explained here

Had to pull this up bc I'm not in the laptop

[west night]

I'll do when I get back home. I didn't realize it was fixed. Should I prioritize strenght then?
Also it's not spanish, it's portuguese. Some mods get tanslated, some don't, but its not a problem for me

[grand lotus]

Anyone got an eso mirage nuke build?

[warm obsidian]

How to build him and Epitaph

[hexed lodge]

Sevagoth with Epitaph? or, Sevagoth and Epitaph?

[warm obsidian]

Amd

[hexed lodge]

Do you have the helminth Roar unlocked?
For epitaph, +status chance, viral and magnetic.

[warm obsidian]

Roar yeah

[hexed lodge]

Gotcha, you'd need 255% strength to nuke efficiently with Roar, if you can't afford that, go for 217% strength and precision intensify for a budget.
IF you still can't afford that, go for 200% strength and use the Epitaph to prime viral before pressing 2+1
Both augments are required for Roar, but if you aren't using Roar, you reallistically only need 1st augment.

for nuke build ofc, shadow is different but everyone prefers nuke ig

[warm obsidian]

299% at max Molt

[shell river]

That's a good point

[hexed lodge]

A bit of overkill but that'll do, going past 255% is diminishing returns, but using a focus school like madurai/zenurik to snapshot Gloom's max slow of 272% is still great.
Btw, you can also subsume over 3 instead, if you do this, you can use the Shadow as the nuke primer and save you tons of energy on Sevagoth with extra surv.

[warm obsidian]

Isn't Gloom supposed to be your survival tool

[hexed lodge]

Yesn't? So can be the Shadow with its 5s of invincibility on demand

[rich glacier]

You can't die if nothing atound you is alive

[hexed lodge]

fyi, you don't have to stay in the shadow, treat it like a panic button and/or free energy to start the nuke chain reaction

[warm obsidian]

Do I shield gate?

[graceful basalt]

I have a great sevagoth build but the issue with the build is that I ALWAYS HAVE NO ENERGY ORBS AROUND

[hexed lodge]

Shield-gating is the most optimal choice, yes. You could go into shield-tanking/health-tanking, but that is going to impact your build and might need a different helminth.

[hexed lodge]

uh if you're using Equilibrium, then not enough Eximus? Or Synth Deconstruct on your companion?

[graceful basalt]

I hate synth 😭

[warm obsidian]

Swapped Growing Power for Brief Respite and added Catalyzing

274% at max

[fast steppe]

Congratulations... companion shade in stealth mode does not work Fired Up mod

[green gyro]

then it's not great

sevagoth builds need good energy economy

[graceful basalt]

Corrosive projection
Rolling guard
Shadow haze
Streamline
Stretch
Intesify
Dark propagation
Blind rage
Continuity
2 blue shards with max energy
Rank
0 molt augmented
Rank 0 arcane energize

[chrome sundial]

Are any of these particularly good?

[graceful basalt]

4th with roar

[hexed lodge]

Roar on 4th + Blind Rage, no equil and/or energize... yea it ain't a surprise you run out of energy then.
Stick to viral priming and 200% str until you can rank up M.augmented and add strength shards

[graceful basalt]

Got energize but rank 0

I might buy it

Maxed

[hexed lodge]

it's still a really low burst of energy

i think energize is cheap rn?

[graceful basalt]

60p

Or 90 i do t remember

[green gyro]

ye that's not good

[hexed lodge]

Ah, not too bad, must've been the events that drop it down. (used to be around +300p iirc lol)

[green gyro]

streamline is useless because equilibrium provides way more, blind rage destroys your energy economy, molt augmented r0 is too weak to do anything and you have no cast speed or strength shards

[graceful basalt]

Holy!! I just checked its 90p but is it worth it rn?

[green gyro]

it's still pretty good and the price will go up

[graceful basalt]

So i switch streamline with equilibrium?

[green gyro]

yes

and remove blind rage

also you need to hit the strength breakpoint. otherwise you just can't kill fast enough to get enough energy back

[graceful basalt]

So 2 energy shards 3 strength?

[green gyro]

no energy shards

4 strength 1 cast all tau

Low investment sevagoth just doesn't really work, unlike basically every other frame

[graceful basalt]

Ahhh but he'll have max 250 energy i think

[green gyro]

you use primed flow

mandatory

[graceful basalt]

I just bought it but didnt level it yet

[green gyro]

I only use sevagoth with invig nowadays

even with an ideal build he's not that great

[hexed lodge]

Yes, it works but not with Roar.
Viral priming and hybrid sev/shadow playstyle is harder to understand/use but more than viable.

[hexed lodge]

Regular flow is fine, but ye strength shards will benefit more your build than max energy shards.

you can't nuke with roar effectively unless you hit 255% strength, otherwise you won't "one-shot" them

[green gyro]

it's not harder to understand

[graceful basalt]

Yeah i'm at 195 i think

[green gyro]

just a lot weaker

[hexed lodge]

i wouldn't say weaker, just requires more work cause Roar makes it automatic, Viral is just like... 10% slower? it requires more manual work yes, but has a lower nuke threshold

[hexed lodge]

not enough strength... might want to halt on using Roar sev then

gotta meet breakpoints

[graceful basalt]

Alr

[hexed lodge]

tbh you can alternatively use the Shadow to prime nuke but... that's an entire can of worms i'm not willing to open to avoid fill chat

[opal leaf]

Seva wants his 250 sttength right? To properly clean the room?

Like in some cases, 130 was enough but it would took 2 or 3 casts, but for 1 cast, 250 is needed right?

[hexed lodge]

255%* yes, that maths out 1's dmg vuln and Roar's buff to increase the Sow&Reap's explosion dmg from 25% true damage to 100%.

Sevagoth's Sow&Reap also has a 25%(~) blast 4m AoE, so that's why a 2+1 can easily clear groups, but without enough str, you will kill most instead of all enemies, that's why meeting breakpoints is crucial for an effective nuke

255% str for Roar
217% str for precision intensify Roar
200% with viral etc etc...

[opal leaf]

Eeesh

Problem with Low efficiency and low damage is Seva is very Energy Hungry

[brittle vault]

what are good mods for a secondary weapon for yareli prime

[teal karma]

Has anyone got a powerful setup for the euphona ? Ive never really gotten along with the gun. Ive tried a lot. It kills but takes 2 shots per 220 heavy gunner which is pretty buns for a 5 shot. Ive managed with a lot of underwhelming guns and i love the look and feel of the thing, it just cant do a lot. Started playing banshee yesterday and it works well with her bu then again what doesnt when its getting a x15 + damage boost right ?

[hexed lodge]

For Roar, ye that's why Blind Rage is not reccomended, even if it helps to meet breakpoints. Strength shards and molt.augmented are the safest way to meet breakpoint.
Viral is more energy-friendly cause it has a lower breakpoint (200%) but requires more manual work from the user

[opal leaf]

Noted

Once I get Seva back I'll do it...... Apparently I deleted Seva bc why not

[hexed lodge]

It's a gun with "old-warframe" syndrome, it's base stats are just too low in comparison to nowdays, if you want to effectively kill with Euphona, you'd need a good amount of Forma and/or a weapons platform frame

i love that gun too but dear void, i can tell it's age

[lavish orbit]

Banshee still need a "ravalement de façade"

[teal karma]

Me on my 70 forma bucket XD. Ye ik and its really sad even when it came out like what 10 years ago, i still didnt get on with it but i figured it wouldve been better with all the new tools but even with the much better arcanes (the fact it can get arcanes) and better mods plus more knowledge it just still doesnt feel good

Was just hoping someone had found the magic needed

[umbral trellis]

How do I make this not suck at level 100+? (ignore the riven)

[hexed lodge]

if i find some magic trick for Euphona, i'll let you know, for now we pray for buffs or incarnon

[teal karma]

Like discovering enervate for the kompressa

[teal karma]

Please i beg. The riven dispo is also hella low. 60% crit stats without a negative on such an underperforming gun is rough

Trying a lot on it atm. May invest in a bunch of omni forma for this project

I was hoping enervate would work with the alt like on the Kompressa but each shot only gains 1 stack since its not per pellet. Probably common knowledge but i was living in hope

[hexed lodge]

hmmm...
The build ain't bad but could use some work, why not use Secondary Deadhead and/or viral+heat instead?

[teal karma]

due to its stats, viral heat is still taking 2-3 shots on the alt and deadhead is rough to stack up due to it struggling at getting the kills. Think best arcane ive tried so far was the heat one due to the high buckshot status chance

It doesnt max it but gets the buff quickly

[hexed lodge]

true, but you can also outsource priming from a pet/primary to get your fist stacks easily
You mean Cascadia Flare? it could work but not very easy to max either...

[hexed lodge]

Gun itself isn't great, but could swap...
60/60 cold&toxin for Viral > Deep Freeze and Pathogen Rounds
And 90 and 60 heat mod > Pistol Gambit and Magnetic Might

[teal karma]

ye it maybe gets 60% for a shot if its point blank. Ive tried so many set ups so far. Primary only, alt only, mix. Im finding mix is and secondary are better which tbf raw crit doesnt work much anymore on a lot of weapons

[umbral trellis]

Eh? (I am slow af)

[teal karma]

also weird bug. Gun doesnt auto reload on empty till u try and fire again on empty

[hexed lodge]

i'm not at home sadly, not much i can help with until i can test stuff later

[sweet otter]

so if I activate the cloud and move to all allies that can benefit from this, will they all get 14 sec iframe? or should I stay in the 4m range for it?

[lavish orbit]

14s invisible after they've come in less than 4m of the cloud

No mention of the need to stay near the cloud

[sweet otter]

dang that sounds like a very op support skill

[lavish orbit]

It is, it does help a lot to make your clone a lot more on the field

[sweet otter]

also why is this one the cheapest among the 3 augments for wukong, it seems like the best one

[lavish orbit]

The cheapest ? On wf market ?

[sweet otter]

ye

[teal karma]

Alright ty. It one of few weapons in my arsenal i still feel disappointed with. Even my lato before its incarnon felt better in steel path than this. Much better in fact

[lavish orbit]

Maybe it was to much bought by sellors because it is good lol

[sweet otter]

someone selling 200 for 10plat lmao

[analog stirrup]

target cracker instead of sure shot would be a start

[lavish orbit]

Each cost 10 plat

[sweet otter]

ouh 🤣

makes sense

[lavish orbit]

I understand how you read it, I never bought a syndicate mod over 10 though, it takes time but there is always seller

[sweet otter]

all 3 around same price that way, I was reading them all wrong

[opal leaf]

Do u have the Incarnon?

[sweet otter]

btw exalted weapons don't have augments?

[lavish orbit]

There is, but you put them on the frame instead

Basically baruuk and excalibur

[opal leaf]

Some do

Collectively

Hildryn's Guns
Atlas' Fists
Excal's sword

And like Keiko said, you put them in your warframe instead in the exalted

[sweet otter]

oh so this is basically that?

[opal leaf]

Sort of? It's mostly for his clone, not the staff

[lavish orbit]

Somehow, most of them will add damage (Excal, Baruuk), others will change how the ability work (Valkyr, Hildryn, Atlas)

[violet silo]

exalted abilities have augments

[opal leaf]

Oh is that the one that makes Hildryn's Guns go brrrt instead of boom boom?

[lavish orbit]

Ye, alt fire

[opal leaf]

Gotcha

[umbral trellis]

No, I would have gotten it, but the furis incarnon only works on the one handed furis, and the dex furis is a dual

[opal leaf]

Ah then the gun practically sucks

Like... It's decent? But needed helluva buff for it

I really need to sleep, cya tennos

[umbral trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-cringe-die-laughing-gif-24902854

[fringe quiver]

Does anyone have good advice they’d be willing to share with dealing with those ability nullifying fields as Valkyr? I like using her exalted weapon but those darn ability nullifier fields make me revert to a normal melee weapon. This isn’t usually an issue since I have some decent melee weapons, but it would be nice to be able to not have to worry about carrying a fully built one when I’m trying to level up some trash tier ones for MR.

Is there an ability I can subsume (replacing her 3) to help with this issue? Like I could use guns sure but sometimes I just use Valkyr as a general weapon leveling platform since her exalted is so good and I want to build a back up when I am running bad weapons

[teal karma]

If the gun does mostly impact is this essentially 140% damage?

[violet silo]

-imp is good dw

[lavish orbit]

Not really, better kill them/remove their shield with melee out of the zone or either shoot them

[hexed lodge]

Sorry on late response but...
Remove Pathogen Rounds, Magnetic Might, Deep Freeze and Pistol Gambit.
Add Pistol Pestilence, Frostbite, Heated Charge and Scorch.
Dex Furis isn't a crit gun, so don't add crit mods like Pistol Gambit or Target Cracker, focus on statuses

[teal karma]

Not when the gun is all impact XD. Great for alt fire tho i guess but not much better than hornet strike

[quiet laurel]

have eyes and kill the bubbles

[violet silo]

changes status weighting

[umbral trellis]

Oh, ok ty

[teal karma]

It has 2% status chance on the impact side

[violet silo]

ah 2% status chance

[teal karma]

yup

[hexed lodge]

I don't play Valkyr, but can you use guns while in her 4th? If so, if you really hate Nullys use Miter with its augment Neutralizing Justice

[teal karma]

This gun is going to be the end of me. I will make it good without banshee i swears

[teal karma]

U can use guns while her 4ths is up like excalibur. Drain continues in back and it halsters the exaulted

[karmic badger]

Not exactly, the damage applies to everything, like additional elements added on, while the impact portion only affects the base impact damage

[hexed lodge]

forgot the alt fire from Euphona, doesn't it have a 10% 9% sc and 10 multishot at bse?

[teal karma]

Thats true

[lavish orbit]

Why not trying a headshot build

[teal karma]

It didnt seem to be capable on the crit side of doing the damage on a headshot build even with the magnetic crit damage mod

[violet silo]

I dont think the neg impact matters. elemental mods will work the same.

[karmic badger]

IPS is weird due to the fact that they scale off of their own damage and not the overall damage of the weapon

[violet silo]

the thing is the riven's just bad

[karmic badger]

Its why no one uses IPS mods

[teal karma]

Thats true.

Back of my mind was thinking hemorrage like with the epitaph but that forces impact and this certainly wont

[fringe quiver]

Yeah… but like I was explaining why I didn’t want to use guns in the post 💀

I mean it’s a total self inflicted handicap that I could fix lol, but that’s what the post was trying to build around

[lavish orbit]

Only motovore, and even there

[hexed lodge]

i think riven is fine, euphona without reload buffs can feel like a slug 💀

[teal karma]

Actually the only weapon in all the years ive played that has hurt my brain so much

[violet silo]

yeah those mods are just for doughty weighting basically

[karmic badger]

Anyways slash gets 1 point of extra damage at baseline, so like...

[hexed lodge]

Ah mb i missed that... i guess rely on your companion and/or operator to deal with the bubbles then?

[teal karma]

yeah...kinda just scrapped a magazine size reload cc one

[karmic badger]

If IPS scaled like elemental mods, doughty builds might actually be interesting

[teal karma]

But due to dispo all were really low. 200k kuva in nearly at this point. 300k more to go and 1k steel essence to buy more if it comes to it

[karmic badger]

There's like, 3 weapons that can actually use doughty, and only 1 has actual aoe

[violet silo]

for now they remain damage cap kullervo stuff

[violet silo]

which? motovore is one probably

[karmic badger]

Halikar wraith and the steel meridian polearm

[teal karma]

then maybe primed heated rounds instead of scortch for way more raw damage

[lavish orbit]

Ceramic dagger

[fringe quiver]

Nah it’s fine!

But yeah I think what I’ve been missing is that you can attack the bubbles from the outside to make them smaller. I always assumed you needed to kill the enemy inside 💀

[lavish orbit]

I like to slide around the bubble with slide attack, it does 6 attacks and melt the bubble

[violet silo]

destreza might be good soon

[karmic badger]

I've run gun platforms so often i barely notice nullifiers, since they immediately explode upon contact with 50 rounds from an LMG

[teal karma]

oooh. Euphona winning a little bit

[violet silo]

the polearm is the vaykor sydon, right? is it good?

[karmic badger]

No clue, its mid most likely

[violet silo]

apparently it can charge and then radial blind

[fringe quiver]

Aye good to know! I’ll need to try hitting it with normal un modded melee to see how it fairs against it.

Like the ultimate solution is to just use a normal melee that I’ve built lol

[hexed lodge]

it's mid, nothing crazy but fun to experiment with if you want to try shenanigans

[lofty epoch]

I'm only MR 9 but I'm trying for a weird build with Excal Umbra. This is what I have so far plus adding Cyte-09's invisibility to him. Any tips/ideas? (I may be slow in responding since I'm at work)

Also have Arcane Fury and Energize rn

And here is his Skiajati

[tall surge]

What is best damage archon shards for mesa?

[mighty flare]

Topaz critical chance

[tall surge]

Ok thx

[abstract axle]

invis is a survival strat, tanking is a survival strat, rolling guard is a survival tool. you are burning too much on survival. If you want to do umbrals, switch injects and drop rolling guard, and swap the arcanes to persistence and molt reconstruct. if you want to keep evade, drop the umbrals.

[teal karma]

The best ive managed out of it. More fun. ofc struggles due to lacking aoe but its usable in steel path and kills relatively easy at least level220 steel path since thats currently the highest i can spawn in simulacrum and dont have time to try level cap (not that i want to bc i dont see it feeling all that great even with a platform to help)

[hexed lodge]

Good stuff!
||now grab a weapons platform frame and go to town with it||

[teal karma]

My old build hit damage cap with its alt fire on banshee. Just wanted it more widely usable. Hitting damage cap is very inconsistent. Same setup will hit 100k 1 min and stupid big negative number the next.

[uncut kelp]

opinions?

[teal karma]

Considering the use of gunflight over lethal torrent for the punch through tho

[lofty epoch]

Really? OK suggestions for replacements?

[sacred hedge]

Is this riven a good roll for the seer

[floral tulip]

does follie's shadowgraph scale off of ability strength or enemy % hp?

[opal leaf]

Enemy hp

Hp% true

[floral tulip]

Would you recommend the trap build or the barrel build?

[opal leaf]

Both is good

But I use arc trap a lot

Like... a lot, it's mostly my source of damage as it's easy to access and easy to kill enemies off

There are only 3 stuff I use in Follie's arsenal tbh

Barrel, Arc Trap and RPG

Nothing else

[floral tulip]

what about the amphors?

[opal leaf]

Nah, it sucks, good for Alchemy only

[floral tulip]

and it feels like her 4th ability is quite useless, did you helminth it?

[opal leaf]

Yup into Omamori (preference, I love Omamori)

[floral tulip]

I was thinking (this will be pretty basic) roar

As for mods, I'm not really sure how I should be modding her. Do you use any kind of secondary or primary to buff anything?

also the barrel sometimes insta explodes, without me touching it. Why does that happen?

[opal leaf]

Nah

I have a simple Follie Build that only have range and a bit durstion with few Strength but... Tbh

All you need is just casting speed... Like.... Follie doesn't have a focus

Her 3 is infinite

Her 2 is fixed

Her 1 is.... 1

So really Jusy..... Yeah

[opal leaf]

Eh enemies shooting at it

[floral tulip]

Her 1 is for survivability on higher levels im assuming you just spam it. And helminth the 4th

[floral tulip]

What's the duration for?

[opal leaf]

I don't necessarily spam her 1 but her 2, I spam her 2 a lot bc of arc traps

I just use 1 if I got hit with Toxin or some nasty status

[opal leaf]

Eh some skills in Follie 2 does affected by durstion... But seeing the only 3 (Barrel, Arc Trap, RPG) I used, it's useless

[random oasis]

i need help on my protea

her build is powerful but i keep feeling i can do better

[floral tulip]

I was wondering if the arc trap needed duration or the death orb

[random oasis]

i will send it now

[opal leaf]

Like?

[opal leaf]

Nah it's fixed

[floral tulip]

Could you send me your build so I can have a look at it?

also hows she when it comes to bosses? Maybe when it comes to dark refractory

[opal leaf]

Change archon Stretxg into normal stretch as it's useless

Put that polarity in your temporal (the V one) in your cunning drift...

[opal leaf]

Tbh you don't need that much ramge

You need Dura

[whole kelp]

should i keep this for dante

[random oasis]

so i should invest in red shards

to add duration?

[opal leaf]

Haven't tried dark refractory. But with acolytes? She 2 shots acolytes... Some bosses too but higher bosses like Archon Bosses, I haven't tried and I won't rely too, past testimonies of it says it sucks on bosses

[opal leaf]

In my place I would do so

[random oasis]

but i do kinda need duration to not be worrying about the temporal anchor all the time tbh

oh wait

thats what u said , u said duration >> range

[opal leaf]

Yee

[opal leaf]

Here is my Follie build

Pretty basic as she is too powerful

That empty slot is an exilus slot so don't mind it

[floral tulip]

She 2 shots acolytes with the barrel I assume.

[opal leaf]

RPG

[floral tulip]

Oh

[opal leaf]

Yee

Barrel is my nuke, Arc Trap is my CC and RPG is my Acolyte one

[floral tulip]

Do we take dreamers bond over growing power?

[opal leaf]

Idk, I never really bothered for aura mods as it never really matter for follie

She has energy and health regen from her 3, buffs from her 2 and armor stripping from her 4 (but her armor strip is useless

[whole kelp]

should i use this for dante

[astral tinsel]

no

dante gets tons of overguard, so 2/3 umbrals are mostly wasted slots

[elfin marsh]

hi y'all, so I main kullervo and melee mostly. I have the rauta and a diriga that primes but I'm wondering what should I use for a secondary? something that's useful for a melee only kit

[fierce lark]

epitaph/kompressa/kuvor nukor for more priming

[old marsh]

Any secondary with fortifier

[fierce lark]

kullervo already generates far more overguard than fortifier's cap

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[fierce lark]

unless your melee weapon is a complete brick, kullervo will blow up anything in front of him with 0 support

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[fierce lark]

wrathful advance + any buff subsume will make him treat anything that isn't a boss like a base E Prime trooper

[old marsh]

Ngl, Kullervo & Dante P will break the game

[fierce lark]

i fully expect dante prime to cause a massive community uproar about the game's entire challenge being removed

when suddenly every mission there's 0 risk of taking damage because you permanently have 40k+ og

that already happens half the time in EDA/ETA

[elfin marsh]

I use the nami solo and roar and it's pretty busted

[elfin marsh]

do I need more priming?

[fierce lark]

i took an unfinished innodem with kullervo to a conjunction fissure once and saw a kai heavy hit over 300m

[old marsh]

Sir. That’s illegal

[elfin marsh]

I haven't unlocked the prime versions of those yet

[fierce lark]

no, my point was you don't need anything lol

[elfin marsh]

yeah it's really good ngl, prob don't even need roar tbh but damage

[fierce lark]

rauta is cool for building to 12x and then you never equip it again and it's just a dex stick

secondary slot can be left empty, or you can equip like a lex/laetum if there's something you need to shoot that you can't/don't want to melee, ie violence. or just anything with an arcane slot to hold secondary dex

diriga is doing what the secondary would be doing

[elfin marsh]

oh okay, so just have a placeholder secondary?

[fierce lark]

sure, w/e you want

[elfin marsh]

I feel like I don't even need more combo duration, I already have 20s

and rauta

[fierce lark]

from archgun?

[elfin marsh]

no from primary dexterity on rauta and something else

oh from rauta as well, the unique trait gives 7s combo duration

[fierce lark]

two dexterity arcanes give you 20 total

oh

[elfin marsh]

yeah so I have 19.5 seconds, basically 20

[mellow nimbus]

other than overframe, what site do people use for builds?

[abstract axle]

overframe is the only one i'm aware of. a lot of clan discords share builds

[spring radish]

Hi all is this okay for panzer claw build ?

[fierce lark]

underframe

you can hit "featured builds" in the top left and see one that's preset (and is backed by math, because the website itself is a build dps calc)

or you can build your own stuff and throw it in a dps sim against any enemy with any number of external buffs

[timid violet]

First time building a caster, any tips for temple?

[violet silo]

cast lizzie
shoot people

temple isn't quite a caster.

[fierce lark]

temple's one ability that actually does damage is better when it's subsumed than it is on temple

nothing else temple does supports using pyrotechnics to kill people

it's a very sore thumb that has no reason to be there, everything else is lizzie and then buffs/debuffs to support lizzie

[mighty flare]

nothing now
there was a short blip of genuine caster temple that de culled

[fierce lark]

was it even that good or was it just a fun detected moment

[timid violet]

Any augments or not yet

[mighty flare]

none

[fierce lark]

an augment that makes wail apply to pyrotechnics would be so hilariously tone deaf

[mighty flare]

good & fun me thinks

[violet silo]

what happened?

[fierce lark]

temple 3 used to apply to abilities and weapons instead of just weapons

750% heat buff onto their 1

actual damage

[violet silo]

damn

rip caster temple

[fierce lark]

now the only way to make pyro do damage is to subsume onto mag or nezha and abuse ragdoll hitboxes

[violet silo]

here go https://overframe.gg/build/679575/nami-solo/nami-solo-incarnon-highest-group-dps-melee-in-the-game/

[fierce lark]

works with vauban too i think? but vauban has his own funny buttons

[mighty flare]

if ya want something to look at: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1478997955993276457

airburst caster temple was short-lived

[lavish orbit]

Yareli

[near vortex]

Limbo exists too

[fierce lark]

oh yeah limbo exists

[violet silo]

whimsy and joy

[gray quarry]

Wonder if that’s why temple felt really good back when they first dropped

[gray quarry]

Subsume it onto mag? For what purpose

[mighty flare]

mhm, it gave temple a more hybrid feel than purely platformer as they're now

[hexed lodge]

Ragdoll; enemies ragdolled can be hit by Pyrotechniks multiple times per pillar.

[quiet storm]

Thoughts on this build? Roar will replace Discharge

[gray quarry]

Huh

[weak jasper]

Can you get viral heat on a lich weapon that has a heat inherent?

[brittle sleet]

Yeah you just put cold and viral next to each other in the modding menu without heat mods earlier in the mod order

[velvet pulsar]

Wonky hitbox

[fierce lark]

mag's pull both groups and ragdolls anything hit, and has the crush augment for armor strip & shield regen

[gray quarry]

Ah

[fierce lark]

and mag's pull has twice as much range as subsumed pull, so it's much better on her than subsuming pull on temple would be

[ruby crypt]

how is this build?

[fierce lark]

looks like a torid

high voltage would be marginally better over stormbringer if you have it, vile accel can be rifle elementalist if you have any external fire rate, max your arcanes

[ruby crypt]

dont have high voltage rn

thats why is subbed for stormbringer

[hexed lodge]

if it wouldn't because everyone only cares about sevagoth 2+1, i would've added my 2 cents and say he is a strong pyrotechniks user too

[ruby crypt]

how is this gauss build for platforming (assuming everything is fully upgraded)

[weary frigate]

Need a quick survivability test. If your gauss can stay alive, and you feel comfortable, then it's alr.

[teal karma]

maybe a stupid question. Been messing with a build for banshee finally. (her and Oberon bottom of my to do list bc i struggled with them years ago)
Savage silence. It says it makes silenec stagger but it already does that ? I bought the augment years ago for some reason but now thinking about it, the first bit is literally redundant isnt it ?

[ruby crypt]

it does fine? the other build replaces rolling guard with fast deflection. however toxin is practically an instakill. I was able to void cascade up to 300-400 with this build

[craggy niche]

Just do deflection and aegis on gauss with rolling guard

Never die

[weary frigate]

Yep, the only thing that really matters in gauss platform build is his survivability and duration.

Even with thermal transfer, you still don't need to worry about strength since his fire rate buff is enough to make almost any gun OP, and the augment itself is already 150% boost at base stre.

[ruby crypt]

would smthn like this, sub flow with rolling guard work?

[weary frigate]

His survivability looks good, but i don't know if you can still play comfortably without flow. You still spam 1 a lot.

I personally prefer swapping to operator whenever i accidentally bump into toxic cloud.

[ruby crypt]

It works until the operator also gets instakilled

I hate the infested with a burning passion

[earnest canopy]

Is this good?

And what should I change

[ruby crypt]

I'm not 100% sure but I think exalted blade lasts based on duration

rather than efficiency

the drain per second should be less with more duration

[mighty flare]

base silence stuns for enemies and opens them up to stealth melee damage multipliers
savage silence makes the ability open finishers and adds bonus finisher damage

[earnest canopy]

This is with efficiency

This with continuity

[ruby crypt]

Isnt drain/second scaling with duration?

the initial casting scales on efficiency but i dont think the drain per second does

[ruby crypt]

try replaceing transient fortitude with blind rage

[ruby crypt]

weird ig it does scale on efficiency?

[spiral chasm]

it scales of both

[earnest canopy]

But overall is it good? cause idk if this element combination is solid

But i think it is?

[ruby crypt]

maybe viral? I think elemental is pretty good

[spiral chasm]

u want a full min maxed build or?

[earnest canopy]

I have viral on epitah and spam it before using the blade

[spiral chasm]

sac pressure and CO do the same thing probably replace one of them

[ruby crypt]

then its fine

[spiral chasm]

CO does scale better

[earnest canopy]

Yeah and i know i need arcanes

But i don't have them yet

[spiral chasm]

probably good enough for where ur at

idk if going those elements is good for melee

[fringe quiver]

Okay so has anyone made a kitgun work in SP/whatever is endgame content? I built me a cool kitgun that orange (and sometime red crits) but I think I reached the limit of its power for now. I was struggling with level 80 railjack enemies

Edit

I use this with Yareli for her 200% crit boost

[spiral chasm]

just go raw corrosive and put like glad might and blood rush for some extra crit and crit dmg

[hexed lodge]

Just want to add, this is not a damage bonus additive to your weapons, like "+% Finisher dmg", but it actually works as a "finisher dmg vulnerability" multiplier like Viral onto the enemies.
Can't confirm if it works the same for Radial Blind's augment tho

[earnest canopy]

Maybe weeping wounds instead of condition overload?

Or just critical damage

[spiral chasm]

put organ shatter

[mighty flare]

radiant whatever? same thing, both are multi

[earnest canopy]

Yea i had it before but changed it cause i thought CO will be better cause of me spamming epitah

[hexed lodge]

Radiant Finish, but ye

[spiral chasm]

yeah u do get a lot of base dmg from CO

[teal karma]

I see. The wording is pretty poor and doesn't explain it well

[hexed lodge]

the C in digital extremes stands for consistency

[mighty flare]

common story in warframe, but banshee's been long overlooked for a while now

[earnest canopy]

Thanks for help cya

[mighty flare]

pretty sure her wiki isnt even up to date

[craggy niche]

Channeled Abilities - WARFRAME Wiki https://share.google/rsDndbRMZAg6OKygH

You'll have to click on view original image there

[teal karma]

Yup yup. Always the same. Wiki has been great and I'm glad they upgraded it

[mighty flare]

oh wow savage silence page doesnt even have the up-to-date icon lol

[tranquil plover]

is the dex dakra good or nah

[fringe quiver]

Okay reposted but built on overframe

Okay so has anyone made a kitgun work in SP/whatever is endgame content? I built me a cool kitgun that orange crits with Yareli but I think I reached the limit of its power for now. I was struggling with level 80 railjack enemies… though I didn’t have target cracker on yet

Any suggestions to make this work better through steel path? Also no arcanes on here since I don’t have good ones YET but I will work towards that.

Willing to drop another forma, the cold mod is just there for damage

[wild rune]

Gaze prefers the Deimos loaders due to the fact that they increase both Status Chance and Critical Chance, for one

Your elements are all mixed up, Radiation is not in a good spot right now. You're looking for Viral Heat or Viral Electric typically, as secondaries have both Heat and Electric primed mods

[viscid bane]

Any adviceon The Guilty?i'm an not surviving at all

[wild rune]

Galvanized Shot is typically better than Hornet Strike in most scenarios, as it will beat out Hornet Strike with just Viral, Heat/Electric, and the in-built Radiation of the Gaze

[woven void]

this good for umbra blade???

[outer glacier]

Why is there such a big mismatch on my Nataruk between what Overframe shows, and what the game shows?
Crit, status, multishot, punchthrough... are all the same, but the total damage of one shot is different by a factor of four (1386 vs 5545).

[wild rune]

This is an old build of mine that I might mess with a bit at a later time, since I gotta head to work here soon
Expel is not necessary, you can replace it with Magnetic Might for an additional status for Galvanized Shot, you can use Anemic Agility if you want some additional fire rate (though this is easily offloaded to your companion), Merciless Gunfight for the punchthrough, etc

this is my riven, just replace with a toxin mod

these are the parts

[mighty flare]

do you have any of the operator arcanes? most of the guilty can be cheesed with the invis one

the guilty mode gives you a lot of charge that allows you to maintain the invisibility for a good chunk of the fight
metem-hakh not needed, just a tad more initial charge

[maiden cargo]

is bubico a missile shotgun ?
i wonder if it needs punch thru

[fringe quiver]

Aye. At the moment I don’t have those and do not want to shell out for them atm, so I’ll take the l on just normal viral or whatever. I will go ahead and swap out the rad stuff for cool and see how that makes things works

Like for sure I would like to get a riven mode for gaze and just reroll the heck out of it down the road 🫡

[mighty flare]

overframe doesn't have accurate calculations, ignore it

[viscid bane]

Which one is that?

[mighty flare]

The one in the image I attached

Zid an sek eel

[viscid bane]

ah I thought you were talking about other ones

[wild rune]

the big guy in archwing is probably going to be the only real pain in the neck

[fair warren]

Well, this was rather exhausting.

[viscid bane]

I cant sruvive Dadaclysts at all

never even got to the big guy

[mighty flare]

you want an example run? mostly vaz & the invis arcane: https://youtu.be/AgHgODSUxvw

[viscid bane]

Am i screwd cuz I don't have Vazarin tauron?

[mighty flare]

No, the others work, just more care with rolling guard and energy

[viscid bane]

I don'tknow how the hell doyoukill Dactolysts so quickly

[mighty flare]

I used laetum to hit both simultaneously with the aoe

[viscid bane]

They are always too far away for me to do that, and then it's knockdown fiesta

[mighty flare]

That’s why you wanna be invis so they don’t move around too much

And be quick lol

[viscid bane]

I am invisible but they split up very quick

and camp 2 different sides of the map

I'm lucky if I get them half HP both

[craggy niche]

Non co damage

[viscid bane]

I don't have CO installed

[dense peak]

Anything I can do or nah

I aint buying high voltage

[naive hinge]

what does the total damage number mean ?

does it actualy mean the damage that i will damage or average of all damages ?

[rich glacier]

Total with whatever element rolls

[fierce lark]

it’s the total amount of damage your shot will do, including multishot, before any additional modifiers including crit/faction/buffs & debuffs

[fierce lark]

elementalist or bane

[bitter dove]

Any thoughts

[fierce lark]

nataruk benefits more from a damaging status like blast/elec than a raw damage status like corrosive or viral

[bitter dove]

Sooooo, what should I change, I'll tell you if it becomes any better

[fierce lark]

it has enough status chance that it’s almost guaranteed to apply 1-2 modded statuses per shot, but shoots slow enough that it can’t rapidly apply multiple stacks of viral or corrosive to take advantage of them

and because it’s near guaranteed to apply elec stacks every hit, modding elec should do more damage even vs grineer per shot than pure corrosive, or over viral vs corrosive

[fierce lark]

swap elementals for 60 and 90 electrics

if you don’t have high voltage (it’s very expensive rn) use elementalist, bane, or hammer shot if you have it instead

or galvanized scope if you have that

[naive hinge]

what if different elements ?

[fierce lark]

doesn’t matter

all elemental damage feeds into the same part of the damage calculation, being “elemental damage”

[bitter dove]

I might have some essence

[bitter dove]

What if the total damage was less

[fierce lark]

there are things that aren’t represented on stat screen that contribute to damage

one of those things is status procs, in this case the electricity status, which does its first tick of damage instantly (and then once per second for 6s)

the calculation that goes into elec proc dmg is modded base dmg x modded electricity x status dmg (elementalist) x faction dmg x other multipliers (like crit, body part, etc)

so when you double up on the elec mods with stormbringer and HV, you lose 30% of the elemental damage part of the equation, but you gain more damage towards electricity status, as well as higher weighting towards electricity and more status chance to apply it more often

same with bane and elementalist, elementalist adds a separate multiplier onto your electric dots, and bane actually applies twice because it applies to both the dot itself, and applies to the modded base damage that’s also applied to the dot

that’s what people refer to when they say faction mods double dip on status dots

[bitter dove]

God that's a long explanation

Thank you mate

[naive hinge]

i mean if like i put heat damage
then i hit a non element damage will it increase ?

[visual breach]

im thinking this mod will really tie my build together, what do you think

[mighty flare]

Don’t please

[naive hinge]

BRo is 5000 shiels

what are you doing ?

[visual breach]

?

[wary forge]

ur missing persistence

[fierce lark]

your per-shot damage will increase yes, whether it procs heat or not

[visual breach]

whats that

[fierce lark]

read what the mod does

[wary forge]

dont actually do that please

[fierce lark]

it's x0.2 shield capacity

[visual breach]

ik it was a joke bc its horrible for hildryn

[fierce lark]

okay you gave a ? when everyone said don't

made it seem like you were fr xd

[visual breach]

when you brought up the 5k shield i wasnt sure what you meant

[fierce lark]

persistence removes all shields and gives you 500/s hp gate if you have at least 700 armor

[visual breach]

but yeah I understand its not good

[visual breach]

i have that on my nidus but idk how to get his armor up

[wary forge]

fiber

[fierce lark]

armor mods, archon shards

[naive hinge]

ahaa ok ty

[visual breach]

oh i just realized i only have 4/8 mods on him, probably should potato or forma

i do have arcane guardian maxed on him tho

[bold stag]

does anyone have some unique builds for me to try I'm getting bored

[opal leaf]

What Gun and What frame

[bold stag]

Oh no like anything u like lol, I just want something new to use feels like everything's been done

[visual breach]

did they make it so you can swap the aura polarity with another slot

thats so umazing

[opal leaf]

Yes

Even exilus slota

[opal leaf]

Gauss plus Acceltra

Go Pure duration, drop range, (but don't use Narrow Minded)

Acceltra, Go Electric Slash for the funny

And enjoy

It's just a funny weird buuld that somehow works

[turbid cliff]

which is better

[opal leaf]

I'll go multishot for this

Solely bc it follows the

CD/cc/ms or Damage

[rocky mason]

Reroll

[civic gyro]

with kullervo isnt it less of the weapon and much more of the build

maybe kullsaw but that bow recks with everything

[opal leaf]

Yee.... It's fun with Xoris/Falcor

[tender birch]

hi guys, im trying to build a volt melee, just wondering if this weapon is good for my build

[stable plover]

Riven[163.9 MS, 110.6 Heat, 286 Dmg, -zoom]

its hiiiiighhh neeeewn.

(incarnon perks are, deathtrap, marksmans hand, commodore)

[rocky mason]

Amanata is fun for volt yeah

You can get a lot of attack speed

[cinder isle]

I love melee but I don't like using heavy attacks, which of the following is great without heavy attacks?
Hate, Fang Prime, Okina Prime, Orthos Prime, Quassus Prime, Venato Prime, Sarofang

[viscid bane]

Man, Dactolysts are kicking my ass (the guilty)

dunno how to deal with them quickly

advice?

[stable plover]

i only have bad advice, like how my above posted Vasto build can shred them pretty fast(when using Xatas wisper(Xaku's helmenth ability)). brute force is the best i got.

[viscid bane]

How the hell areyou even gonna use abilities in that fight?

[stable plover]

well i got good duration on my Xatas wisper lasting around a min. so if i pop it jusst before the next boss starts, the buff will stay.

[opal leaf]

From all of those you mentioned

Okina Prime Incarnon and Hate Incarnon are the ones really used for light attack spamming

[eternal prism]

Emmmm nami solo> okina hate

[opal leaf]

And there that one too

Nami solo

[eternal prism]

Nami solo best melee because it doesn't lose damage.

For hate u need volt

[opal leaf]

I guess even tho some say Nami is the best or Hate is the best

And will lead to argument

I'll stay in the line of "These are good" and not pick a fav hahahahah

[opal leaf]

I mean you don't really need to but to unleash the "full potential", yes you need volt

[eternal prism]

Better to use melee like utiliti than to deal damage with melee

[opal leaf]

Can't disagree hahaha

[viscid bane]

This fight actuallyfeelsimpossible. I wasted my whole day on this and no progress

Each time I see a video etc they kill them in seconds but they just refuse to die

[cursive peak]

Which fight?

[eternal prism]

Saryn

Nokko mirage

[viscid bane]

Dactolysts in the guilty

[eternal prism]

Free guilty

[viscid bane]

Needto do it with ember for the glyph

[eternal prism]

Burston

Just use meta weapon

• vazarin

Vazarin solve all your problems

[viscid bane]

No tauron there

[eternal prism]

If I'm not mistaken you don't need to use an operator here
Only for survival

And this simply requires an open skill

[viscid bane]

here's mine. Cant reliably hit heads tho

[eternal prism]

Swap bane and multishot to non galv and arcana should be more then enough

A mod that disables multishot is almost always worse than multishot

I don't remember what vulnerabilities the enemies have there, but I didn't feel any big problems with the frame platforms

[jovial narwhal]

Hello everyone, i just came back to Warframe after a long break and don't remember how to do anything with volt, I used to main Excalibur in my other account but now I main volt and I am still a beginner, i would like to know if anyone has any advice for volt so I can be good

[eternal prism]

Augment shock trooper
Roar over 4 and u should be fine

[viscid bane]

Just tested it and this is actual ass, can't even kill trinity before she casts her stuff

[eternal prism]

what ember setup u use?

roar nourish

augment 1 skill?

[viscid bane]

Good ol' shield gating stuff

[eternal prism]

🥀

[mighty flare]

Oh, use catalyzing, not redirection

Also her 1 augment is okay for more dmg in between nullies

Dont use boreals either

[eternal prism]

u have vazarin sling skill?

[viscid bane]

no

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-his-hand-in-the-cat's-mouth-cat-meme-cat-licks-finger-black-cat-gif-6060486166583365754

[mighty flare]

Don’t need vaz tbh

You’d want the invis arcane tho

[atomic moth]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-annoying-stop-please-gif-9350910756886809113

[eternal prism]

better for afk shoot

[mighty flare]

Invis arcane

Zid an whatever

[atomic moth]

Just fix lazy gate build

[viscid bane]

Have it, doesnt help much

[warm obsidian]

Burston Incarnon?

[viscid bane]

Cantkill them fast enough while invisible

[mighty flare]

What’s ur gun build?

[viscid bane]

Just tried this and it's ass. Had acuuity build before that but cant reliably hit heads

[mighty flare]

Oh

[atomic moth]

Burston was always ass on DA enemies

[mighty flare]

Use like laetum

Coda mire was chill too

[atomic moth]

For waframes you need like laetum or latron, or strong heavy hitting melee

[viscid bane]

Build?

[atomic moth]

You can't stack galv reflex so only exodia zaw are playable, but it's ass too

[atomic moth]

Default crit build

You also want to fix your ember build and add damage subsumes too

[viscid bane]

They are gonna disable those anyway

[atomic moth]

Evade attacks

And kill them faster

That's the way

[mighty flare]

Get gud 😭

[viscid bane]

Can you guys get into VC with me and see what am I doing wrong?

all the other bosses were cakewalk but this is not budging

[void sky]

should i use broken war for early game

[opal leaf]

It's always used in early game

But I go Glaives as they are cool hahahaha, Especially Falcor

[void sky]

alr

thanks

[slender vine]

I understimated Melee Fortification, it doesnt mention it has stacks, and 200 armor is meh

But what isnt meh is 4000 armor, SWEET

[opal leaf]

Might be good for Valkyr for that extra Armor XDDD

[slender vine]

That's exactly who I am using it on

[summer crest]

is This Riven good?

its

less weapon recoil
more Max amo
more damage
less damage on corpus

[bold estuary]

I dunno what shards to use with sickening pulse the casting speed is just what I put a place holder on

[remote saddle]

Who do you recommend to watch for builds?

[slender vine]

3 Purple, Ability on Electric

[slender vine]

Flo, Kingineer, Moug

[bold estuary]

okay valid point however those are for the dog prime I think ill just use greens and the corrosive version instead

[slender vine]

Not Necessarly purple, any of the "ability str on element" work, it's just electricity is good on pets

[bold estuary]

yeah im prob gonna use greens since I have an abundance of them

[slender vine]

They work too for that matter, I said purple because you are high likely to put that on companions (for Archon Stretch and whats not)

I initially was using 2 cast speed, then I droped one for +45 toxin, eventually I got used to the slower cast speed

But if you are playing caster heavy build that spams 1/3 and Sickening Pulse then yeah use 2

Null Star also works for a caster build, put it on 4 Spam 1 and 4, it gets buffed by the weapon decrees also

[wary forge]

depends on ur build

[slender vine]

Another variation of a caster build would be her 1 with any Ragdoll ability on her 4

Ragdoll has some insane synergy with the threads

You can use Pull or Air Burst or Larva, they all work, I personally like Air Burst

[bold estuary]

I like sickening pulse a lot honestly it makes it easy getting decree kills like wall latch or mid air

[slender vine]

It is good indeed, I am just suggesting other caster builds for variety's sake

[bold estuary]

its made to be just super comfy

[wary forge]

adaptation

[slender vine]

Drop Pulse for Archon Stretch

[bold estuary]

whats wrong with adapt? doesnt it pair well with her three?

[slender vine]

No, not really, you are better using Vigilante Vigor for more shield recharge

[wary forge]

terrible mod

[bold estuary]

oh I have to forma her again mildly annoying

[slender vine]

No, Vigor uses a D polarity

[bold estuary]

I dont have enough with archon stretch

[slender vine]

Also for Sickening Pulse just consider an unranked Archon Vitality

[slender vine]

Use regular Stretch for now

[undone dust]

vig vigor costs less than adaptation

oh you're talking about swapping pulse for stretch

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325622644019695696/1469971814959546523/2020344174072189055.gif

[bold estuary]

yeah I took adapt out put in stretch over pulse and had 6 slots left so I just went ahead and formad her

I use her a lot might as well

[slender vine]

Based and Chadpilled

[undone dust]

honestly archon flow is kind of buns and you're already running energize + equil so you should just swap it for primed and cut more costs

[bold estuary]

I agree however its higher level than my primed flow

[slender vine]

it's just 1 extra cost, its fine

[bold estuary]

and I cannot be asked to farm the credits to max out my primed mods

[undone dust]

use that 1 extra point on exilus trust

[undone dust]

this is fair and real honestly

[knotty halo]

So im waiting for my Gyre Prime to finish crafting, and im going to be using the Grimoire as her secondary, what primary/melee should I use on Gyre to fit her electrical kit?

[lofty epoch]

I got my invis Umbra build running and tested him. Lasted almost 15 min in a solo survival... mind i am only MR9 and this is a new play style for me

[lofty epoch]

Run the index? I multiplied 50k into 1.9mil

[violet silo]

they can probably do better things than index, but farming is tedious

especially credit farming

[lofty epoch]

There's better ways than the index?? I'm still learning stuff. Just learned the index existed

[violet silo]

yeah, like 4 or 5

the fastest way is really high investment tho

[lofty epoch]

True. True.

Anyway I'm super happy with my excal umbra build. Probably needs a lot of fine-tuning but it exits

[violet silo]

just shield gate

umbra's not very good at health tanking, which is kinda funny cuz that's what the umbral mods are for

[bold estuary]

I could yeah. not going to though

[lofty epoch]

Not needed if I'm invisible! I have maybe 200 shield and 800 Smth health

[fierce lark]

how are you staying invis

[novel bear]

Shade/huras

Slash dash doesn’t break it I’m guessing

[velvet pulsar]

Spamming 1 likely doesn't break it because it's not directly moddable ability

[fierce lark]

it doesn’t but if you’re spamming slashdash anyways there’s no point to take an invis companion

you’re invuln while casting

[velvet pulsar]

Only difference is you're not forced to cast slash dash everytime u wanna prevent damage

(assuming energy issues)

Also because it gets more comfortable than casting it on alert everytime your shields break.

[novel bear]

Have to cast 1 every time you want to kill something though

[velvet pulsar]

Beasts open up some pity kills even for newbies

[fierce lark]

if you’re not pressing 1 to kill something, you’re shooting it or swinging exalted blade at it, which will break stealth anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Unless the objective is to simply move from one place to another like reaching deacon in archon hunt

[novel bear]

Relying on invis does let you offload survivability to a companion though

But it would probably be better to just use diriga and synth decon

[velvet pulsar]

Hound fits better on excal

Coz excal covers a lot of area in attacks

[novel bear]

Also good

[warm obsidian]

How to build Lavos v:

[velvet pulsar]

You'll find that my opinion will not match with majority of players

[warm obsidian]

?

[velvet pulsar]

The generic build goes for shield recharge build along with valence formation just for weapon platform

I have something entirely different in suggestion

[novel bear]

Persistence?

Standard health tank?

Invis caster?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, along with Well of Life subsume

[novel bear]

Over 1 or 2?

[tawdry trail]

Do majority of players really suggest shield recharge lavos? Not like he can make use of brief respite or augur set

Health tanking just comes so much easier

[velvet pulsar]

2, but 1 is also an option because his 2 can have mid synergy with WoL

[warm obsidian]

Wouldn't that drop an element if you subsume

[novel bear]

Standard health tank lavos is one of the worst health tanks

Passive shield gate is way better

[velvet pulsar]

2 drop cold, and all cold related secondary elements

[velvet pulsar]

List the issues

Well of Life solves some

[novel bear]

Healing on a cooldown
Low ehp compared to many others

Well of life solves the first easily

[velvet pulsar]

It also mitigates the 2nd to an extent

[tawdry trail]

Between arcane grace and ophidian bite healing is fine

[novel bear]

Blood altar is better healing than ophidian bite

[velvet pulsar]

1. The heal can exceed 500/s, but more difficult on lavos compared to other frames using WoL
2. Pool of Life can stack arcane blessing quickly

His 3rd ability augment synergizes with WoL

[tawdry trail]

And well of life is a better healing ability than blood altar, but for the vast majority of content ophidian bite is perfectly servicable

[velvet pulsar]

Because his 3 can stay in a place for a long time with augment, u make it camp around a well target

And with augment, his 3 reduces cooldowns per damage instance than per enemy

[eternal prism]

vazarin tech

sg lavos tech

[velvet pulsar]

And because WoL heals even on damaging the target, you'll still gain some healing when stepping outside the well

[tawdry trail]

Is that how it's supposed to work lol

[novel bear]

Probably not

[velvet pulsar]

IDK
But with augment, the electric procs from his 3 also reduce cooldown now, rather than just the direct damage from 3

...and here comes heat inherit to rescue

U can infuse heat from 4 on his 3, and so your procs will last longer on the well

[tawdry trail]

I mostly play him as a beefy weapons platform so haven't tried his 3 augment much but it's sounding like I should

[undone dust]

i love how you just have a chub for WoL
reasonably so because it's a nice ability

[velvet pulsar]

And everytime u refresh that heat via more outer sources, the procs refresh and cooldown keeps reducing

[static sphinx]

What's better, nukor or cycron?

[novel bear]

Lich version?

Or normal?

[static sphinx]

Yeah tenet/kuva

[velvet pulsar]

Nukor, but my bias is towards cycron

Approved by Lavos main

@undone dust lol

I just keep increasing WoL propaganda

[undone dust]

WoL propaganda best propaganda

[velvet pulsar]

More people gotta be made aware about how good this is

Everytime I post these screenshots, more people join WoL propaganda

[rich glacier]

2 months ago I cooked with trinity. I agree this is really underrated. The issue is that nobody plays trinity because she is a 0 buff weapon platformer.

[fierce lark]

assuming you own enervate, nukor

[static sphinx]

I don't. I just want to either get a good secondary for myself, or a better variety of good adversaries for trade.

Would it still be better without arcane?

[fierce lark]

without enervate or another way to get flat crit (arcane avenger/harrow), nukor is a primer, cycron would be better

[velvet pulsar]

Enemies affected by puncture also receive +25% flat CC

[proper meadow]

any suggestions?

[velvet pulsar]

Magnetic might for any particular reason?

[proper meadow]

Magnetic damage good

Also crit damage!!

11.5x might be overkill tho

[rich glacier]

Magnetic is overguard/ shield version of viral

[velvet pulsar]

Can replace hollow point if that feels like too much CD

[proper meadow]

Ik

[proper meadow]

Ye I might but with what..

[gray quarry]

Swap gunslinger for galv crosshairs

[velvet pulsar]

You'll recover 15% damage back and get some other bonus like punch through

[proper meadow]

Why?

[near vortex]

magnetic is great to have

helps with eximus and Thrax

[gray quarry]

The riven has firerate already, and cause you can never have enough cc

[proper meadow]

Ye that's near useless

[proper meadow]

I already do tier 2/3 crits every shot tho

[velvet pulsar]

Merciless Gunfight

[near vortex]

Why deadhead

[velvet pulsar]

That gun should get some punch through

[gray quarry]

Yeah but more crit

[rich glacier]

Replace gunslinger with elementalist and hollow with electric mod

[proper meadow]

Bc best

[near vortex]

just run base damage and use Fortifier

[gray quarry]

You don’t run deadhead on dual tox?

[proper meadow]

Why would I do electric??

[velvet pulsar]

Then you're not procing elementalist

[near vortex]

No, I have either Outburst or Fortifier

Depends on the day

[gray quarry]

[rich glacier]

Best dot in the game

[velvet pulsar]

You're not having DoTs

Your suggestion is giving corrosive

[gray quarry]

Dual tox doesn’t do DOT

[proper meadow]

Wait what is toxin + electric?

[gray quarry]

actually wait idk if it does

[gray quarry]

Corro

[rich glacier]

Ahh i forgot the inate elements

[near vortex]

Outburst is straight up better when I run a melee for it and Fortifier is better QoL

You do NOT need the headshot multiplier bro

[rich glacier]

Mb I need to think now because there is no electric shard for secondaries

But you always want elementalist anyway

[random prawn]

Fr, I use it on my Mag Prime build and it's perfect.

[velvet pulsar]

Punch Through benefits the ricochet

[gray quarry]

For its incarnon when the shots ricochet between heads

[near vortex]

It's not gonna be better than full Outburst

[velvet pulsar]

Merciless Gunfight is a direct replacement of Hollow Point

[near vortex]

Not in a million years

[gray quarry]

give me your dual tox.

[velvet pulsar]

Outburst is a demanding setup though

At least ask the player what it is being used for

[rich glacier]

I will come back later. With a build it will likely be in hours from now

[fierce lark]

i used it with encumber for awhile just for the puncture procs to make it crit

it’s not really that practical

[velvet pulsar]

To DE it is

[fierce lark]

nah that’s why they gave us enervate

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely the reason why they never increased the CC on coda sporothrix

[fierce lark]

well coda sporo has innate puncture

[velvet pulsar]

Exactly

[near vortex]

It really isn't man
Just run ceramic Dagger and not have a bad primary

[fierce lark]

it actually crits on its own

[random prawn]

What about the Coda Pox? Can that weapon be saved?

[fierce lark]

not really

[velvet pulsar]

I run rauta + furax wraith for outburst setup

[fierce lark]

primed ammo mutation tries its best

[random prawn]

Become a DE dev and buff the weapon

[near vortex]

would you believe me if I told you mines missing 3 mods but hits consistently 6 digit, sometimes 7 digit numbers

dtox is so balanced bro

[fierce lark]

coda pox would be a decent weapon if it didn’t run out of ammo after 10 seconds of use

[near vortex]

Half a build and doing 7 digits of damage

[fierce lark]

has the blast enervate thing going

[velvet pulsar]

People can share u their toxocyst builds, but u can't copy if u have riven

[gray quarry]

I can copy it exactly, I just gotta steal your riven

[near vortex]

I have a riven on mine
The negative is terrible but stats aren't bad

[rich glacier]

@proper meadow what arcanes do you use on warframe? Do you have space for weapon arcane?

[velvet pulsar]

Mine is unrolled riven, so kept it as it is

[proper meadow]

Uh wait

[near vortex]

Two empty mod slots
I counted the exilus as a 3rd on my first count

[random prawn]

Opinions on the Mag Prime build?

[near vortex]

Is that Smite

[velvet pulsar]

Ayy another negative reload speed fella

[random prawn]

wha

[near vortex]

Or is it well of life

[random prawn]

well of life

[near vortex]

I can't tell

[gray quarry]

Holy range

[near vortex]

Oh it says well of life lmao

I'd say it looks fine
Just need weapons to work with Magnetize and you chillin

[velvet pulsar]

Reminder that nataruk is not that weapon

[gray quarry]

I’ve been using burston with incarnon on mag

[random prawn]

I don't use the nataruk lol, I use the kuva nukor because I'm cool

😎

[gray quarry]

Breach surge and magnetize are nuts. Magnetize becomes a blender and then a nuke

[velvet pulsar]

That's the time when the weapon doesn't matter

[random prawn]

but then how else will magnetize become a tornado?

for 27 seconds

[gray quarry]

It doesn’t need to be

[velvet pulsar]

Use a weapon with this or this:

[random prawn]

😭

[velvet pulsar]

Both are exilus mods

[random prawn]

OHH, I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT

[gray quarry]

It doesn’t but burston helps alot with making it a nuke that does around 70mil+

[velvet pulsar]

Because your projectiles keep flying inside the bubble, enemies killed and dropping orbs will automatically teleport the orbs to Mag no matter how far she is.

It's a blender which will juice out orbs from enemies and automatically deliver the spoils to you for feeding.

[random prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349142399645122643/1431898238113546322/attachment.gif

[mighty flare]

arcane concentration used more often now over molt efficiency, don't really need molt augmented on mag, not using crush aug?

oop

[random prawn]

Had to replace crush aug since I wanted more range on her, and also because Mag is so strong to the point she can kill enemies with or without armor.

felt bad getting rid of the 50% casting speed, but had to

[mighty flare]

crush aug used more than just armor strip
but armor strip also lets bubbles scale quicker

[random prawn]

really like me range

[proper meadow]

It's circumvent and precision

[mighty flare]

with/out augur reach isn't that major
already +50m with only overextended + stretch

[lean spruce]

should i guys...

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[old marsh]

Left and stop

Use Crux and enjoy

[random prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[old marsh]

Btw r u able to full armor strip? With 129 STR? I honestly forgot how much exactly is needed.

[random prawn]

you need 130, which is why I decided to use molt augmented

and also, I decided to get rid of augur reach and put back crush augment

You ruined my life

[mighty flare]

wowsa

[old marsh]

Works

[mighty flare]

could also run growing power for str, wouldn't recommend brief respite or augurs on mag

[random prawn]

using brief respite because I want to give my team shield-gating too

[mighty flare]

ur mag

[random prawn]

I'm a team player because I'm cool

😎

[random prawn]

😿

[mighty flare]

small shield from casting ability can overwrite long gate from her 3/4
you also give ur team shields too so

[random prawn]

I have nothing now.

[random prawn]

without brief respite?

[mighty flare]

?

[random prawn]

oh

[gray quarry]

Right

[lean spruce]

gotcha

[rich glacier]

Damn it is is impossible to proc electric. If you combine element with electric the bonus toxin goes outside of it and when you don't it combines. This is messy.

[proper meadow]

Hmm..

[rich glacier]

You have some options

[random prawn]

ohh, I get what you mean now, bruh I wasted a forma for nothing lol

[rich glacier]

Work is picking up sorry. I can see toxicyst to work with rhino well

[proper meadow]

I guess I'm getting merciless gunfight what else I want?

[opal leaf]

What's a nice Build for Dual Ichor?

[viscid elm]

Incarnon , poison upgrade, saryn , combo mod maybe a bit of melee influence XD

[opal leaf]

Man that's a lot

Just ichor, no saryn

[viscid elm]

It's sad since it gain infinite combo with saryn and the incarnon

But if you have another way to proc poison consistently you'll be okay with all the rest

[opal leaf]

Hmmm does it need to be toxin?

[viscid elm]

Dual ichor incarnon have a passive , with every hit on a enemy with toxin applied you gain combo (it's proc by the incarnon area so infinite combo)

[opal leaf]

Ahhh

[viscid elm]

That's why I use it with saryn I can just let the area propagate and clear the room while I'm away

[proper meadow]

Ok my dual tox has a major issue the damage ranges from under 50k (over half the time) and 1m+ (a bunch of times but still)

Sometimes I can hit the head a bunch of times and they don't die and sometimes it 1 shots the same enemies

[halcyon gorge]

uriels signature weapon is pretty good for him right?

[fierce lark]

meh

[halcyon gorge]

what would you recommend?

[fierce lark]

for uriel? pretty much any gun is fine on him

but vinq wants to melee and uriel doesn’t really want to melee

non-incarnon guns on the high raw dmg/dps side to take advantage of the guaranteed heat dots. basso/plasmor, hema, cedo, AX, envoy

[woven drift]

Hello I've been struggling to pick which of vauban's abilities to focus on I have his 1st sorted, his 4th sorted I'm just having trouble picking between flechette orbs or photo strike

[coral crest]

Flechette is usually the more consistent option among players. It both scales with lvl and is coded as a weapon, so it's affected by universal buffs

Plays into his static playstyle as well

Photon isn't all that bad either

Augment also allows you to spam it

Flechette also has a unique property of breaking the precision counter

[old marsh]

When in doubt, Spam everything. U will figure out the synergy and playstyle
But for Vauban, u wanna use 4 to lift enemies, 2 for flechette orbs and use like Nourish on them so they do even more dmg and just keep spamming 1 when needed.
There r other builds that r focused around his 3 but that’s a whole different can of worms

[lavish orbit]

Flechette if you use with nourish or weapon helminth/arcane coded, Photon Strike for zoning

[coral crest]

"ok so instead of giving an explanation on both abilities I just give you a nourish build"

[woven drift]

Thank you I appreciate this

[fierce lark]

i agree, nourish is cringe

here’s a fleshock build instead

[coral crest]

I do have to clarify that photon strike also scales with enemy lvl

It also deals a forced blast proc so it's a bit more effective against larger groups clumped together

Thats why they made vortex not send enemies away if hit by repeater

[woven drift]

Yeah rn my photo strike radius is 16.45m

Photon*

[coral crest]

Realistically

If you're in a static mode, then flechettes

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[coral crest]

If you're in a faster paced mode, it's photon strike

[woven drift]

So basically build two configs one for static one for fast paced

[coral crest]

Flechettes have a higher damage ceiling but Repeater has much more free spammability with an augment

[old marsh]

Basically defense vs exterminate

[woven drift]

Got it

So what helminth abilities would be the best to recommend for both

I know obviously of the flechette and nourish

And roar with photon but which others do you all recommend?

If there's stuff I don't have then I'll just work towards grinding it

[coral crest]

Roar actually works for both

[old marsh]

And as Saryn said. Fleshock

[coral crest]

You see, flechette is a weapon

It's counted as a weapon, it benefits from weapon buffs

[lavish orbit]

did I

[coral crest]

Vauban has the overdriver pad

It boosts damage of flechettes as well, multiplicatively

[old marsh]

shock trooper from Volt or fireball frenzy from ember or anything to buff weapons

[coral crest]

Then roar also applies and stacks with the pad

multiplicatively

Instead of nourish slop you get roar slop

Congrats

[woven drift]

XD

Love that

[coral crest]

Seriously though, you can run a lot of things with him

He mainly needs energy and some survivability to figure out

You can put omamori for very easy survivability, he's not getting shot at often compared to a lot of frames

[old marsh]

Ye. He is spam heavy

[woven drift]

Yeah I use grimoire and it's energy mod

[lavish orbit]

Nourish helps with archon stretch and your 1st ability also

[coral crest]

Inspired choice is Pyrotechnics

[old marsh]

One of the few frames I don’t use blind rage on

[coral crest]

Pyrotechnics multihits enemies in the vortex and stacks hot shot for red crit flechettes

It's over the top but it's fun

[woven drift]

Yeah I wish I had pyrotechnics

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

New build

[coral crest]

But really you need to solve energy issues first

[old marsh]

Me still using my old ass build from 2020

[coral crest]

There's an even weirder way to do it

[woven drift]

Dethcube energy generator?

[old marsh]

Augment

[coral crest]

Worse

So, you know how flechettes are your bullets technically

[woven drift]

Mhm?

[coral crest]

They work with Scourge's alt fire

You then subsume lycaths hunt

[woven drift]

👀

[coral crest]

It drops energy orb on headshot kills

[woven drift]

Doesn't flechette also headshot?

[coral crest]

They aim for center mass

But since you throw Scourge, enemies get a headshot attractor and it makes flechettes headshot

It also gives you like 2000% accuracy stat when the mission ends

[woven drift]

Lmao ok got it so going after scourge

[coral crest]

Honestly nourish is just the easiest option

Just like with Garuda. One might call it slop but there's multiple interactive layers to the choice that makes it more complex than just "nourish always good"

[old marsh]

Nourish on Garuda is heresy

[coral crest]

But yeah you can do a lot with Vauban's kit

[coral crest]

It benefits 100% of the rest of her kit

It's not just a plug subsume, as much as I like running random shit over blood altar

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[coral crest]

I run vial rush on her what are you saying

[coral crest]

I personally just use Omamori

It basically solves all your survivability concerns

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-william-shatner-agree-agreed-yes-gif-4477489

[coral crest]

And energy can be solved by other means

[woven drift]

Alright I'll test that out legit just missing a few rocks to mine to build her

[coral crest]

But Lycaths Scourge Vauban is real

[woven drift]

Which companion? I use wyrm prime currently

[coral crest]

I just use my priming hound for everything

It sometimes nukes the room, but always gives me a lot of free status priming

I also run Summoners Wrath a lot

It's an aura that acts as a x1.75 faction mod for pets

Can put it for your fancy sentinel as well

[woven drift]

Ah ok the aura I've been using for vauban is brief respite

[ornate galleon]

Just got burston incarnon but having trouble deciding which one would benefit me the most out of these first two options

[ember kestrel]

I personally went with the first option and then used blue shards to give my Volt the required armor

[woven drift]

Does your frame have 450 armour or a way to get that needed amount

[ember kestrel]

there's like, a billion ways to get more armor nowadays anyhow, so pick that and enjoy hitting like three or four dudes

I've made it a habit to always reload when there's nothing on screen so Forceful Finality is literally never active for me

[ornate galleon]

No only at 420 unfortunately

[woven drift]

Do you have access to shards?

[ornate galleon]

Not yet I haven’t been on as much but you can only access them if your at a certain standing with the weird monster looking people

Wait I have like one frame that is over 450

But I don’t even use valkyr

[woven drift]

Then I'd say use the 1st if you don't want your ammo to refuse to dust then you'll get the way to add armour later

Reduce*

[ornate galleon]

Okayyy thank you