builds-discussion

[gray quarry]

Gl

If you want help I can help later today

[mental night]

we shall see

for now, i test guns

i wantsomething thats good. like a decent heavy weapon for Grendel

right now my only 3 decent Steel Path weapons are the Dex Sybaris, my Acceltra, and the Nataruk

[lean tendon]

I never had problems with Entrati family because I always shoot the pimples and shi

[gray quarry]

What mr are you

[fathom dirge]

Ik this is a basic choice but torid or burston incarnons

[pallid quiver]

Does the enkaus actually do good damage btw

[mental night]

12

[pallid quiver]

Like I’ve tried it and it seems kinda underwhelming

[lofty epoch]

Could Excal Umbra be turned into an invisiblity build? I'm only MR 9

[mental night]

i have yet to screw with Incarnon yet

[fathom dirge]

If you like shotguns use the cedo then (once you get it). It is a very decent primer too

[lean tendon]

Torid: braindead aim and more on AOE
Burston: you still need to aim and more on Single Target

[fathom dirge]

Fair

[mental night]

i might shoot for the Kuva Hek

i wasnt fond of the Hek when i first tried it cause of its short ass range but hey, who knows? could be fun

[lean tendon]

If you don't mind shooting heads, just get Dual Toxocyst Incarnon. You need to hit weakpoints to activate it but once it's on Incarnon form, you don't need to be as accurate. It's also single target + room clearer combined.

[gray quarry]

Kuva hek is a fun one

[tidal parrot]

could also try the kuva kohm, its quite fun with primary crux to just make the full auto shotgun shoot more

[lean tendon]

It's good

[gray quarry]

Phantasma is also nice

[pallid quiver]

The damage is a bit lacking on ST

[pallid quiver]

Basic viral heat slop I gather

[lean tendon]

Viral+Corrosive+Heat in one weapon is crazy enough, being able to execute at 35% hp is even more amazing.

[wary forge]

It’s pretty much just a worse phage

But ye it’s useable

[pallid quiver]

What enkaus?

[mental night]

mayhaps

[tidal parrot]

thats when you do the dificult thing, of pointing at a head, and it typically results in the enemy dying signifcantly quicker

[wary forge]

Yes

[tidal parrot]

follie's gun

[pallid quiver]

I hate how phage needs u to scope in for 10 light years to actually have a concentrated beam

[mental night]

as stupid of a reason as this is, i just want agood punchy gun for my heavy frames like Grendel and Hildryn

[pallid quiver]

It’s so clunky

Neither of those frames use guns

[wary forge]

I get that

[mental night]

regardless

[pallid quiver]

Grendel rolls around and spits people for damage

Hildryn has el chupacabra balefire chargers

[tidal parrot]

peep the tenet arca plasmor / coda basocyst

[pallid quiver]

That do 10 bajillion damage

[wary forge]

Phage is really solid tho especially single target with crux

[mental night]

cand do coda weapons cause their system STINKS

[tidal parrot]

meaty projectiles that do meaty amounts of damage

[mental night]

ok, so i need a vote

Kuva Hek or Kuva Kohm?

[pallid quiver]

Tenet arca plasmor then

[wary forge]

Coda liches are the easiest ones to do lol

Sisters aren’t that bad tbh

[pallid quiver]

Wait anyone got a plasmor build I can use? Mines got a rad progen so I’m not all too sure how to build it

[tidal parrot]

system doesnt stink, its signifacntly better then the others tbh, only part that is anywhere near "bad" is the mr17 requirement which sucks if your not mr17 ig

[lean tendon]

Grendel already has the hawk tuah build which is pretty much spitting enemies like a nuke.
Hildryn has her Balefire Charger which is even more of a nuke.

[pallid quiver]

Does the spit scale well? I’m finding it not that amazing damage rn

[lean tendon]

I have seen a build that kills level cap

[tidal parrot]

ideally swap the progen to magnetic

[pallid quiver]

Oh seriously is mag progen that important

[tidal parrot]

arca plasmor is multiplicitive with gunco so having more statuses makes it better

[pallid quiver]

I got everything besides primed ravage and ppb so I can replicate this

No heat?

[tidal parrot]

just put base ravage then

[pallid quiver]

I mean yea but rad is also a status no?

[tidal parrot]

does electric

[tidal parrot]

alrdy has rad base

[pallid quiver]

Oh.

Darn it

[tidal parrot]

heres the actual elements if you want

you can also swap primed point blank for semi shotgun cannonade but only if you arent intending to use a fire rate buff

[lean tendon]

It already has a rad base but assuming it's a weapon without rad and mag, you want mag more than rad because of the effect of mag. Rad is better when you use specific setups like irradiate.

[pallid quiver]

Alr ty

[tidal parrot]

mag also just makes it better at removing overguard from eximus

[pallid quiver]

I mean it negates crit deceleration so

I need to 10 forma it before I can change valence right?

[tidal parrot]

yea but if u run smthn like wisp for firerate buffs or whatever semi-shotgun cannonade will negate the fire rate buffs

[tidal parrot]

5 forma

[pallid quiver]

Tbf I rarely ever run wisp

[tidal parrot]

was just an example, theres plenty of sources of fire rate

like reinforced bond

[pallid quiver]

I would more if I got Marie skin but am broke rn so

[tidal parrot]

gus redline, uriels fire rate buff thing and wisp are atleast the frame fire rate buffs i can think of off the top of my head

[pallid quiver]

Yea I don’t use frame fire rate buffs all that often so it’s fine

I’ll manage with cannonade for now

I’m tryna decide if I wanna swap the valence on my cycron first or my plasmor lol

Cuz my cycron is currently on elec which I wanna change to mag

[tidal parrot]

unrelated note from the fire rate stuff, arca plasmor and basocyst are really good with mag since they have infinite body puchthrough so you can mag bubble a huge group n then hit them all with it and scale the bubble to egregious amounts

[pallid quiver]

Ooh yea I noticed

[tidal parrot]

if its elemental vices holding you back just keep doing temporal archamedia, if its forma do some more relic runs so you have more forma bps and keep em crafting

[pallid quiver]

Am bad

[coral crest]

Ayanga jumpscare

[tidal parrot]

archamedias are easy

[coral crest]

They can be easy

[tidal parrot]

its just the valence icon, i dont think ive ever even owned an ayanga before

[coral crest]

I know but it's an icon with Ayanga in it

[tidal parrot]

hardest one ive done was probably when i had frost on a mission with constricted, powerless, and wana say the leech dudes

aside from that one in particular everything else has been releatively easy, plus once you get all the peely pix done for temporal you dont need the last reward from it anymore assuming your just buying hotshot and fallout every week

[rocky mason]

You can also just buy from eleanor with standing

[gray quarry]

[tidal parrot]

im ngl i forget i have 1999 standing and remember it like once every few months

[gray quarry]

Fair

[deep grotto]

Figure i’ll ask again
Can you run a proper Enervate build on the Kuva Nukor with just 5 forma?
Can overleveling get you enough mod space or would a potato be necessary?

[tidal parrot]

potato doubles mod capacity so you would have like a max of 40 mod capacity without so you probably could build a functional build but might not be the best possible build since your missing 40 mod capacity

if you did smthn like this with progen heat/electric you could probably get away with it tho

[vernal crow]

Am I stupid? I bought ore gaze but doesn’t show up for nekros? Even tho it’s a mod for for his build?

[tidal parrot]

its a subsume you can put on nekros

[vernal crow]

So I bought the wrong mod?

[wary forge]

Energize on neecros

[tidal parrot]

people subsume ore gaze onto nekros because it stacks with his desecrate to get even more drops (typically solo) and its drop chance scales with ability strength

[vernal crow]

How do I subsume?

[rocky mason]

Why do you not want to use a potato?

[unkempt moth]

If you ran 5 topaz shards for electric damage can this just be very OP on any frame let alone a frame that increases damage ?

[tidal parrot]

rank 3 with the family on deimos, then you feed atlas to the wall

[tidal parrot]

why would you run topaz shards?

[primal tangle]

could this sell for 1k plat?

[vernal crow]

Hope I’m rank 3😂

[deep grotto]

Im just curious tbh

[rocky mason]

Potatoes are much less of an investment than several formas

It's much cheaper

[deep grotto]

But im gonna be doing the formas anyway

[tidal parrot]

you could make a functional build but youd be down a status and out of a slot for smthn like a bane or punchthrough or smthn

[rocky mason]

Yeah but you can do both

[deep grotto]

Alright noted
My point is that im just curious if it’s possible lmao

[rocky mason]

Possible it is, everything is in this game

It's just a waste

Of time, mostly

[tidal parrot]

i mean tbf, with 40 capacity you can get viral, ms, galv shot, and cd and with enervate you have basicaly everything if you get heat/elec from valence

i agree just put the potato in and put on magnetic then slot on primed heated charge but still

[unkempt moth]

I’m sorry I meant violet shards for electric damage

[tidal parrot]

only on primaries and bonus damage on enemies affected by elec is only for abilities, which the nukor is not

[deep grotto]

Honestly it’s just that Overleveling is funny sometimes so I figured I might as well see what i can experiment with

[unkempt moth]

I’ve only seen 5 violet with cyte and sobek but like I wonder if u make any primary electric 600% electric damage would make that OP

[wary forge]

No

Prob like 400-500

[unkempt moth]

Yea so that with your arca plasmor electric damage wouldn’t it spike up the damage much more or not really

[tidal parrot]

id probably say 500-600 since projectile speed, while it hurts, it has an evo which somewhat mitigates it (not fully) and then it can effectively replace 3 mods on a torid build

[unkempt moth]

Smh I need to go riven hunting that seems like the best way of makin plat

[tidal parrot]

i mean it would make the electric weighting a lot more yes, but thats not where the damage is coming from necisarily. it would def make it do more but would probably want smthn to prime for you instead of like 2 or 3 shoting just about everything

[unkempt moth]

Ahh okay … thanks I jus was curious as to why it only seems to be used with cyte 09 and done but like not other weapons and frames

[tidal parrot]

cuz you use sobek with cyte to kill the whole map from a corner

[unkempt moth]

I assume cause cyte can literally just cast electricity damage on his primary

[unkempt moth]

Which can be done without violet shards I assume?

[tidal parrot]

could but they definetly make it easier

[vernal crow]

Is their a substitute for prime sure footed?

[wary forge]

Projectile sped doesn’t do anything besides affect base Torid -84% tho lowk might be significant

[wary forge]

Madurai focus school

[tidal parrot]

yea but evo gives +50% so it ends up being like -34% end of the day

[wary forge]

Yeah and u can also run speed in the exilus

So yeah I guess it’s not that bad

[tidal parrot]

def not the best negative but its definetly managable

[vernal crow]

Interesting think I’m far away from prime sure footed no clue how to check found out it isn’t tradable

[wary forge]

Ye you gotta wait 400 days

Madurai isn’t bad tho u just gotta go in an out every 40 seconds

[vernal crow]

How much does that mod run typically?

[tidal parrot]

It's a focus school

[wary forge]

It’s your operator school

Like the passive of it

[vernal crow]

What’s the Mr for that or have I not made it far enough?

[tidal parrot]

Think you just need a focus lens and is only locked behind some story stuff, not mr

[wary forge]

You have to do new war I think

To get operator

[vernal crow]

Oh I have that one. the one actually controls the frame?

[wary forge]

Ye

You press 5 to go into your operator mode

[naive hinge]

does mirage increase mele ?

[tidal parrot]

eclipse increases all weapon damage

[pallid pulsar]

can anyone give me tips for gyre prime?

[earnest saddle]

cathode current (her augment) makes her so much smoother to play, as does some casting speed if you don't have it

[pallid pulsar]

aight thanks

would archon stretch be a good idea since gyre has elec?

[sacred hedge]

is Nova better as a weapons platform or Nuke?

[quartz star]

What primary, secondary, and melee weapons are good to go along with Wukong? Are sun and moon viable options for melee?

[astral tinsel]

can't hurt

[earnest saddle]

sun and moon are the only weapons in their class so far, and last i played them they're pretty fun

not world-breaking, but they're fun and that's what should matter

[mighty flare]

If you wanna look at something to work off of: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1477881092093640827

[pallid pulsar]

thanks!

[livid wadi]

What mods should I run with Wukong if I'm not advanced

[runic apex]

working on my burston prime at the moment, where could I go better?

[earnest saddle]

serration+heavy caliber+deadhead are all the same type of damage modifier, so you're running into diminishing returns

i'd drop heavy caliber in favor of something like hammer shot

[runic apex]

that's fair

this is my other burston build, I've found it to be a bit less effective but maybe I'm just doing something wrong

[earnest saddle]

do you have the upgrade from steel path circuit? because ammo afficiency doesn't effect the ammo you get in that mode

[runic apex]

I've got the incarnon if that's what you're asking

[earnest saddle]

that one, yes

rifle elementalist might also be good for the blast procs

[runic apex]

I don't have it though I wanted to grind ascension anyway

[timber sparrow]

what to do chat, plain old gyre amprex

[potent flint]

Classic sinister reach

[mighty flare]

Add elementalist or shred

[icy urchin]

i kinda want to attempt to build follie around her balloons as like a main damage source are there any interesting helminth or weapon combos that seem to interact with them in any way?

maybe im missing something but it doesnt seem like AoE from weapons trigger the balloons, or like chaining weapons

[potent flint]

Not even the Epitaph?

[icy urchin]

epitaph insta pops the balloon you shoot but not any others no matter how close seemingly

ill double check glaive explosions

yeah not even glaive explosions pop it

[tidal parrot]

high fire rate gun then

[icy urchin]

yeah, wonder if theres a good subsume that interacts with it

i put airburst on her and it seems to interact weirdly

ok nvm i was just being dumb, i thought it occasionally popped the balloons when u used it on enemies stacked by airburst but it was just my companion messing with things i think, speaking of ill test something like arc coil

also another thing id mention is that grouping abilities dont work on the balloons themselves so the enemies just kinda get stretched and snap back after

[mental night]

outta curiousity, how viable is a melee-only Grendel?

[primal tangle]

wich of these better?

[wet shard]

left but keep rolling

SD is a very bad negative

[primal tangle]

what am i loking for

looking

[wet shard]

Grolls are CC CD MS -IPS/Zoom

[primal tangle]

?

[icy urchin]

follies balloons kinda annoy me cus it sounds so fun to build around but it seems like barely anything interacts with it well

[wet shard]

couple issues with right even though i personally believe CD > CC. the dual elements hurts your build because it will make it annoying getting other dual elements. -reload speed whilst not completely bad it makes transition to incarnon longer

[hollow plover]

imo still left

[wet shard]

i agree, the projectile speed, you will need to negate it somewhat or just barrel stuff the enemies

[primal tangle]

left it is

wb this?

[wet shard]

right and you can stop if you want

[primal tangle]

im doing it to sell tho

[primal tangle]

right is better fr?

[wet shard]

-dmg to infested is practically harmless considering how easy they are to kill, CD > CC, heat is good easy to build around (corro + blast).

but if you want an easier time to sell it, just keep rolling until you get it as close to groll as possible

[primal tangle]

ty for ur help bro

[wet shard]

closest thing on wfmarket rn is 490p for a similar riven

[primal tangle]

wich one left or right

[wet shard]

right

left is acc worth more but i prefer the right

750p for left

[ionic mica]

heyyy, i just came back to warframe, anyone here can help me with either cyte or gauss? preferably cyte. i think im on the right path but i still dont have any companion, i need recommendations please, also, nourish or shock trooper, and zenurik or madurai, and how do the schools work i dont remember, either i forgot or i never knew how they worked, please and thanks ❤️

[wet shard]

zenurik if you're struggling for energy rn, but madurai is the best

[astral tinsel]

zenurik for energy, madurai for damage, naramon for melee

[gray quarry]

-projectile speed is kinda funny

[wary forge]

Bright bonnet is his best subsume

If u don’t have it then go nourish ye

[potent flint]

Perfect place for helmint

[wary forge]

Shock trooper isn’t bad u just want the energy sustain

[icy urchin]

i think id still personally swap off her 1 ngl

[wary forge]

Zenerik is a terrible focus school realisticly just focus on leveling up Madurai or vazarin they are pretty much good on every frame Madurai with its extra casting speed and straight is super comfy

[astral tinsel]

zenurik is fine

[wary forge]

It’s the worst focus school

[tidal parrot]

slapping together some stuff for a cyte, planing on doing some sobek stuff, alrdy have 2 elec shards on but otherwise is there any other notable shards / whats a decent arcane/mod for the missing slots

ik psf is needed 😔

[astral tinsel]

worst for what

[wary forge]

Nah u don’t need psf with Sobek

Enemy radar/vigilante pursuit u want to use

[tidal parrot]

if im using P animal instinct can i get away without enemy radar

[wary forge]

U defiantly can but if you’re negative range u want extra radar

[tidal parrot]

(just feel like there can be better stuff to slot in than a 30m radius ontop of like the 55smthn from Panimal instinct)

[wary forge]

I mean it’s really just that or parkour but on cyte you go Praedos anyways

[tidal parrot]

could i swap augur with overextend then put on smthn like umbral intensify?

[wary forge]

Praedos with one pv shard is plenty

[wary forge]

You don’t need that much range even at like 80% range your 1 is gonna have like a 40 meter range if your new then having some range can help sure but you should be focusing on looking at the map

[tidal parrot]

idk i dont use cyte and im not typically shooting halfway across the map

so on one hand i feel like having more range could be nice for knowing where enemies are

[wary forge]

If you’re not full on camping it’s useless

Cause u get the punch tough as long as your 1 is deployed

Like range is useless I mean

[tidal parrot]

but on the other hand doesnt the 1 give infnite obsticale punchthrough and getting more pt isnt super needed since like 5 bajillion pt is just overkill

[wary forge]

Ye it does

But you just have to deploy it

And u get it

For as long as it lasts

[tidal parrot]

yea fs

so go to like mby 80 range?

[wary forge]

nah u can be like neg range

its like 40 ish meters with strech

hold on

[tidal parrot]

yea but it also affects the amount of pt

[wary forge]

no it doesnt

[tidal parrot]

100% everything (no mods)

range is the only negative here

range does affect the pt

not obstacle pt but like normal pt

[wary forge]

ye

the body pt just doesnt matter

[errant relic]

How should I build mesa?

[tidal parrot]

does it not? figure that it would be partially something you dont want to full dump

[wary forge]

espcially if ur sobek maxing

also 2 like

3.4 of body pt is still plenty lol

[tidal parrot]

fair enough

[wary forge]

but ye

[tidal parrot]

so just strength and duration max then put on any QoL ig?

[wary forge]

u dont even need cata tbh

but yeah just what ever

[tidal parrot]

just wana double check cyte 2 doesnt proc archon mods right

[wary forge]

i honestly dont know i just use them over the primed ones

[tidal parrot]

was mostly thinking for archon stretch tbh for energy regen but aside from toxin maxing on cyte with the toxin do more dmg shards idk

[fringe void]

His 4 can proc Archon Flow with the alt fire iirc

[tidal parrot]

also would arcane crep be worth while?

[wary forge]

shotguns have primed charged shell

[earnest saddle]

purple for electricity damage on primaries (does affect exalted)

[wet shard]

yes

[wary forge]

thats why u go eletric

[tidal parrot]

wasnt talking about his 4, was talking about his 2. i imagine it doesnt but just wana double check

[wary forge]

if ur in a squad then no its good if ur solo

u just dont upkeep evade like that in squads for the most part u want to save it for the one time u do get hit by a status since evade is a status cleanse

[tidal parrot]

just double checked and no, his 2 doesnt proc archon mods

[spice willow]

finally got heat mod for rifle(wildfire), is heat good on viral or corrode?

[tidal parrot]

decent on both, best on viral

[wary forge]

last 2 mods are pretty much what ever u can do just these 6 mods and kill all the way up to level cap so yeah

[fringe void]

I prefer corrosive over viral for more upfront damage, but try both and see which one you like

[wary forge]

more fire rate is always nice

[tidal parrot]

ive alrdy yanked a build off of some stuff although for arbies im gona def use amalgam

[wary forge]

arbi build is dif they run like vicious spread and shit

[earnest saddle]

deadhead and cold is a very weird combination

[tidal parrot]

yea ik but its not super foreign to normal

[wary forge]

the element on the sobek doesnt matter

[tidal parrot]

cold is because it just mixes will with a lot of elements (although i have a valence adapter and can swap it to whatever) dead head gives same as merciless plus 30% headshot multiplier

[wary forge]

deadhead ur not gonna have up a lot with shells cause shells cant headshot the only use for it is really the passive negative recoil

[quiet laurel]

you called

[wary forge]

you called

[quiet laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1440505629549793290/1489085535598284932/kuvabert.gif

[tidal parrot]

not really, just smthn im gona be putting together at a later date

[tidal parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804834109863624757/1457711650898579509/G9upI08agAAxgFr.gif

[wary forge]

whats up dras u enhjoying ur easter

[earnest saddle]

i would think pure electric would be better, because the electric procs can headshot sometimes

or gas

[spice willow]

what do i swap so i can have both viral and heat on my fulmin

[wary forge]

ye they can

[quiet laurel]

yeah, family drama and shi the usual

will maybe drive to the coast tomorrow

[tidal parrot]

actually drasch, for meta arbies i see they have like 2 casting speed on cyte, is it just to make like his 1 have very little cast?

[earnest saddle]

that's not a combination that can happen on the fulmin, due to the innate electricity

[wary forge]

his ammo packs come out faster with more speed

[quiet laurel]

you run casting on nourish cyte cause nourish has an annoying casting time

[wary forge]

ye that 2

[gray quarry]

Argon scope

[quiet laurel]

his 2 doesnt really matter cause its a one handed cast

[gray quarry]

right ignore my answer, forgot it has innate elec

[quiet laurel]

you cast while shooting

[wary forge]

ye

[tidal parrot]

kinda what i saw while leveling cyte up in sactuary

its been so long since i touched cyte 😭

[spice willow]

just gives me gas and magnetic, is this even good

[wary forge]

hes vvery broken

and imo hes pretty fun can pretty much use any gun and make it good

[gray quarry]

You’d have to move cryo rounds to where the heat mod would be, but you can’t get viral heat because of fulmins innate elec

[tidal parrot]

ik meta arbi has like 3 parkour shards on em in the reccomended build, would it be better to take off a elec shard or 2 or just swap everything minus the cast speed shards to parkour?

[spice willow]

so i cant

[gray quarry]

Sadly no you can’t

[wary forge]

idk u would have to ask dras

[gray quarry]

Ask @quiet laurel

[quiet laurel]

is this specifically for meta arbis or not

[tidal parrot]

ideally a little bit of a hybrid

ik that thats probably not gona be ideal for both

[quiet laurel]

cause for meta arbis you dont need the elec cause of pre buff + supports

for normal content elec shards are BiS

I still run 4x elec shards for arbis too cause otherwise I'd need to make a 4th cyte

which I may in the future but not rn

[tidal parrot]

what do you run in the 4th shard slot?

[quiet laurel]

cast speed

[tidal parrot]

mk, so i can probably do just fine with like 1-2 cast speed and rest elec shards

[quiet laurel]

for arbis there isnt really "the" cyte build, you have a lot of room for QoL and personal preference

[tidal parrot]

gotcha, i have the arbi guide up and have been mostly following that for what to do, and since ik cyte is used in that my entire goal has basically just not to streamline him into 1 build that requires i get a 2nd cyte for meta arbis(not that i cant i just dont want to)

[quiet laurel]

I personally also run kavats grace on him so I dont skill issue on hard landings

very comfy to play on different elevation arbi maps

[tidal parrot]

very interesting. lowk didnt even know that mod existed up untill just now

[primal tangle]

wich of these better

[gray quarry]

Hard to compare rivens since they’re for 2 different weapons but the latron one

3 desirable stats compared to 1(unless you’re doing viral heat on torid then 2)

[elfin sluice]

the more reroll-worthy of the two is the torid one.

[wary forge]

latreon has no neg gg

[deep grotto]

You can if you can apply it externally at least
IE Grendel, Dagath, or a primer/companion

[tidal parrot]

could also do corrosive blast but yea

[thick plank]

what archon shards do i put on my uriel?

[umbral trellis]

This torid incarnon build is ok-ish, how can I make it better?

[deep grotto]

Definitely take off sawtooth

And iirc you want corro blast on Torid

[earnest saddle]

oh, sawtooth is just...

i see what you thought: hunter munitions+sawtooth clip

but if you really want to run hm, you'd be better off with rifle elementalist, maybe hammer shot as well, move terminal velocity to the exilus slot

and then your choice of element, i'd recommend a damaging one like gas or blast to take advantage of gas or blast

[astral tinsel]

just don't use HM, don't do it

gas would be pretty bad with torid's high rate of fire

[earnest saddle]

if they switched to primary debilitate it could work

[astral tinsel]

you can always take out the bullet after shooting yourself in the foot, yes

the issue with debilitate is that it's limited to 1 extra proc per damage instance

and beam weapons coalesce multishot into a single instance

very good for damaging status, pretty bad for debilitate

[viscid bane]

My nuke that I make from enemy spleens is not nuking. Is there something I'm missing? Or do I just need to stack it more? (Garuda)

[versed harbor]

looks fine rly what enemies are u fighting? are u using 4 before firing ur ball?

u could do some viral priming before nuking if u feel rly underwhelmed ig

[viscid bane]

Got mogged by Murmur during 3rd rotation of mirror defense SP.

I prob just don't stack it enough since I was just throwing the ball as soon as I got it

[viscid bane]

I was, but I'm not sure I'm doing it correctly. I go into the group, tap 4 then release the ball

[versed harbor]

nah thats fine maybe build up a lil more

murmur wont have the best results but you'll still nuke p well

[bold warren]

https://overframe.gg/build/569011/grimoire/gluttony-grimoire-dps-viral-elec-with-auto-armor-strip/ Is this a bad build?

[versed harbor]

good build bad weapon rly

[bold warren]

Also is Radiation okay status-wise?

[versed harbor]

dps grimoire has never been great

[bold warren]

Ehhhhh, I see. I kinda just wanna have a better secondary weapon than just my Akmagnus’s and I can’t get the one mod Im missing for my Kuva Nukor so IDRK what to use in the meantime.

[versed harbor]

u could use grimoire for a support build ig

but if u dont wanna buy tome mods gg

[bold warren]

I kinda already have my Nautilus Prime doing Viral + Heat

[bold warren]

Oh I’m grinding for them. I want Jahu’s Canticle xD

[wary forge]

no

never mod for it

[acoustic mason]

radiation makes enemies attack their teammates so if you build for status duration and spread it can be decent crowd control

[wary forge]

just mod for a status that just kills them

[static sphinx]

How good is the kuva ghoulsaw overall compared to other melee weapons?

[wary forge]

mid but i mean its good with influence

[viscid bane]

Rad is okay for primer builds and an additional status for CO but that's about it

[wary forge]

yep

[bold warren]

Regardless, right now I just need a good, DPS secondary to pair with Nataruk and Broken War whilst I wait to prepare for 1999 Content @versed harbor cause I do not feel ready when I can’t even solo Mirror Defence missions or whatever on Deimos

[viscid bane]

Lex prime

[wary forge]

ocucor

1999 content isnt the hardest

[bold warren]

I don’t feel ready for 1999 when I still am struggling on Base Starchart 50+ Level Enemies?

[wary forge]

how r u struggling with base sc

with naturuk and broken war

[bold warren]

🤷 I die, like. A lot?

[viscid bane]

That's not a weapon issue

Just mod some survivability into your frame

[wary forge]

how do u die to level 50s

u dont even need to build any defense

[opal leaf]

Let me guess how you struggle

Bow is not that fast and requires aiming

The enemies are... Stronger per se

And you forgot to move around and cast the stuff that you need for defence
I. E. Volt's Shield

[opal leaf]

Not if you don't move around a lot

I'm some cases, some lvl 50 enemies just kills you if you don't move around

[static sphinx]

What frame are you using that you're dying a lot?

[shrewd badger]

Yall I feel so stuck right now, im trying to figure out what to do next as i havent found a warframe that can be potentially as strong as my sevagoth, my seva is a pure max investment nuke build thats super op and i wanna make another frame build on par or stronger than him, these are the frames i have to work with at the moment but i can always get new ones, what do yall recommend

[gray quarry]

Get calibans razor gyre augment

[shrewd badger]

Hm whats that

[wary forge]

chroma 🙂

[bold warren]

The Bow ain’t the issue and I am remembering to cast my 3 more.

[shrewd badger]

Chroma can be that insane?, ive only seem people use him for cred farm

[gray quarry]

It scales with str btw

[opal leaf]

OK then what's the problem now?

[bold warren]

Volt Prime

[static sphinx]

...

[viscid bane]

What kind of playstyle do you want? Weapon platform, ability casting/nuking, CC etc

[bold warren]

I, don’t feel like I am ready to take on Level 50+ enemies despite having the damage output to do so?

[shrewd badger]

interesting but can he be contest my sevagoth tho, because i dont really care to build anything less powerful than him

[static sphinx]

You have mobility, defense, AOE and still dying? Are you forgetting to use certain skills?

[opal leaf]

Gauss, Koumei, Uriel, Frost (I'm biased against frost, he is not a nuke frame but he is one od the best Crowd Control Frame)

[gray quarry]

Probably can

[cold inlet]

What's the best progenitor element for tenet plinx if I'm going for an alt-fire build?

[opal leaf]

Have you tried?

[shrewd badger]

mainly nuking honestly

[shrewd badger]

interesting

[viscid bane]

Garuda. Insane survivablity, great nuking, very mobile,although can get spammy

[opal leaf]

Just very active as hell hahahha

[bold warren]

Solo-ing content with Level 50 enemies in? Yes and the Objective got destroyed but Good Night anyway.

[opal leaf]

My fingers were tortured bc of it

[shrewd badger]

never would’ve expected koumei in there, i tried gauss for ability nuking but was having issues with actually getting numbers despite using the right build, frost i havent really tried and uriel ive thought of

[shrewd badger]

ahhh ok gotcha

[opal leaf]

Oh... Wait... How...? I never had such problem with Volt before when soloing the star chart

I soloed the star chart from beginning to the end with minor help....

[shrewd badger]

is there recommended build guide for her?

[opal leaf]

Oh wait it says nuke

Yeah remove Koumei, she only status Nuke with Kubrow Mecha Set

[shrewd badger]

oooh gotcha

[shrewd badger]

dont get me wrong koumei was super fun to play with

[bold warren]

Screw me if I know how 🤷

[viscid bane]

You only need 134 strength, neutral or positive duration. Go full range. Slot molt reconstruct if you have/can. Subsume over 2 if you have Helminth unlocked

[bold warren]

I GTG anyway @opal leaf TTYL.

[opal leaf]

Hmm... Even I myself is trying to puzzle out how are you dying...?

[opal leaf]

Yeah sure, cya bro, until next time

[shrewd badger]

ahh ok will do, and what about uriel as well

[opal leaf]

Yeah you see

He doesn't have those mods nor arcanes yet, especially the aegis

[wary forge]

everything in this is very easily obtainable as a new player

[shrewd badger]

it seems like it may come down to garuda or him, or maybe gauss if i can figure out what im doing wrong with him not getting the dmg numbers i should be

[wary forge]

u dont need a rank 5 aegis a rank 1 is the samething

[viscid bane]

pretty much same thing for stats. just slightly more strength and less range. Camisado in arcanes. Dunno what to subsume tho, I onlyplayed him casually once he cameout

[opal leaf]

That's why I'm puzzling it out how he keep dying in lvl 50

I understand if it's murmurs as they are very annoying and sometimes a bit hard for a new players.

But with... Grinners and corpus?

[wary forge]

every frame can lazy gate and never die so yeah

[wary forge]

yeah idk

[shrewd badger]

ahhh gotcha

[opal leaf]

At least the Cata, FAST Deflection and Vigilant Vigor

These 3 is good as a beginner lazy gate without Aegis yet

[viscid bane]

Also Archon Vitality

[wary forge]

yep

[opal leaf]

Yeah same... I'm perplexed hahaha

[shrewd badger]

i might go with garuda tbh, ive already invested in her a tint bit but may need help crossing that finish line, mind if i dm?

[viscid bane]

sure

[opal leaf]

One thing to note, even though they already said it:

Keep on being Active, Garuda is very Active Frame.

[wary forge]

reset time

[shrewd badger]

yeah thats fair ill have to adjust my playstyle then because with sevagoth im used to just shutting my brain off lmao

[opal leaf]

Yup, it will take time as Garuda is one of the Active Frames I know

[gray quarry]

Time for me to run circuit

[opal leaf]

What's in the circuit rn

[gray quarry]

Burston incarnon week

[wary forge]

burston week

[gray quarry]

I’m way late to grabbing it

[opal leaf]

Oh... Just that? I already have Burston....

Wait next week is hate right?

[wary forge]

ye

[opal leaf]

What about base frames? In circuit

Who's next

[wary forge]

oh idk

[opal leaf]

Aight imma do a quick search

[gray quarry]

I have a poor burston sitting there with 1 forma been tossed into it

[opal leaf]

Oooo imma try get Baruuk

[gray quarry]

No potato, just 1 forma

[opal leaf]

Damn....

[gray quarry]

Ooo limbo and strun as my roll

Anyway weekly kuva and riven time

I might do all 10 levels for the circuit, have a rifle riv at level 10

[graceful plank]

what do we think chat?

[wild fable]

whats a good riven for catabolyst?

[livid abyss]

Tryna get somethin good for the quartakk, but I'm not too sure what I should go for

[hollow plover]

gng how do i play kullervo?

[novel bear]

Strength, duration, and 2 augment
Recast 2 occasionally
Press 1 and hit things with melee

[glass cape]

What is the best frame against the exploiter?

[violet silo]

doesn't really matter, exploiter isnt about dmg

[glass cape]

I Play this Quest mit Titania and yes 😅

[violet silo]

titania's good

[spice willow]

What's a good aura mod for yareli

Rn I'm using dreamers bond

And I got the one that does -18% enemy armor

[gray quarry]

Doesn’t matter tbh

I run growing power and steel charge for my 2 builds, but can run whatever

[ionic mica]

alr ill go madurai

[ionic mica]

what is bright bonnet, what does it do

[glass cape]

I play them on speed though.

I usually play Kullervo, but he only goes down there.😅

[novel bear]

Strength and energy

[opal leaf]

Can you make your Sunika kubrow powerful as hell without relying on a Mecha set?

[ionic mica]

which frame

[opal leaf]

Nokko

[ionic mica]

whats a nokko

is that new

[opal leaf]

That's a frame, a warframe

[ionic mica]

is that the fungi frame:

[opal leaf]

Yes

[ionic mica]

how do you get it? an event like oraxia?

[warm obsidian]

How good is the weapon?

[opal leaf]

Kinda but it's in Fortuna, in the deepmines

[ionic mica]

okay thanks

[opal leaf]

I mean the Wiki and Google is there, check it

[ionic mica]

yeah ill watch a yt vid thanks thanks a lot i will put that in my cyte and become GOD

[opal leaf]

Cyte? Aight I guess, Cyte doesn't really.... Need those iirc

[ionic mica]

but

but you said

[opal leaf]

I didn't say it, some tennos do

But...

It does increase strength but there are some that increases more Strength tbh

[ionic mica]

this guy said it

[opal leaf]

Well I guess if he said it and used it then use it

This is warframe, anything can be possible

[ionic mica]

but why wouldnt it be better than something like nourish or shock trooper

[wary forge]

how is bright bonnet bad

stegth and regen

[opal leaf]

Energy regen but yes

[opal leaf]

Nourish is an energy multiplier and gives Viral to weapons and companions (for some reason)

Shock trooper gives electrical buff to weapons

Brightbonnet gives ability strength bonus while able to regenerate your energy

[opal leaf]

I didn't say its bad, I just don't see it fit for cyte

Eh I'm not a Cyte user and I never gotten Cyte so my judgements are shallow and pointless

[velvet pulsar]

U saying as if shock trooper doesn't give electric to companion

[opal leaf]

Oh it does? Damn I didn't know

[tawny finch]

Need help with pixia prime build

[wary forge]

for specifly sobek like he asked for its better then nourish

[opal leaf]

Ah then I really don't know hahahah

[wary forge]

all good nourish is prob better for other stuff

just bonnet bossts acid shells by boosting ur resuply

[tender birch]

hi, is anyone an expert on volt? i just got my prime and got some questions

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1228393097780531304/1455971200038862974/IMG_0318.gif

[lean tendon]

Does melee influence still proc on Elemental Ward (cold ward)?

[tidal parrot]

how are you procing melee influence with cold ward?

[velvet pulsar]

Reflected hits are counted as miscellaneous hits

Miscellaneous hits aren't properly coded

[tidal parrot]

even then cold ward does cold damage no?

or does it retain elemental status in addition to added cold status

[velvet pulsar]

That and melee damage for some meme reason

It's the 2nd most buggiest ability in the game after Merulina

It even procs fortifier despite already procing influence

[tidal parrot]

warframe is a perfect game with no bugs or spaghetti code

[velvet pulsar]

Funny enough, this gave me the idea to combine the most buggiest abilities into Yareli

[fierce lark]

you can’t proc influence with cold ward, but if you have influence active cold ward will apply cold to everything around targets hit by the reflected damage

[velvet pulsar]

Turns out, yareli can have some effects of both primary & melee despite riding merulina

[tidal parrot]

thats kinda what i was thinking unless you can use like shock trooper or smthn to make it do electric mby? or ig like lavos or someone who can imbue elements

[fierce lark]

i don’t think the reflected damage inherits any weapon buffs on your frame

could be wrong though

[tidal parrot]

ik elemental ward is affected by arcane arachne and vex armour so i assume it can be buffed by weapon buffs

[silver island]

If I were to use chromatic blade, Excalibur, have his emassive give me electricity, would the electricity status stay if I use his Gemini emote that has a heat proc emassive…

Edit: just checked. The status proc doesn’t change.

[velvet pulsar]

Affected by universal weapon bonuses

...at least

[coarse hemlock]

I have both frost and wukong but frost seems weak energy wise and wukong seems just overall underwhelming im quite new so if you could help me with a build make it accessible for early game or give me detailed like area to get it

Plz

[novel bear]

Wukong is pretty good early game

[velvet pulsar]

Did his exalted get sufficient buff?

[novel bear]

His exalted is fine
Not as good as the other melee exalteds, but that’s a very high bar

Not that that matters for early game

[coarse hemlock]

I assume his exalted is the iron staff

I feel it being weaker than my regular melee

Idk it feels worse to the point I don't even use it not worth the energy

[novel bear]

What’s your regular melee?
And how are you building it?

[coarse hemlock]

Currently glavie built cold range damage and atk speed

[novel bear]

Could you post a pic of your iron staff build?

[coarse hemlock]

Atm no im laying down but I might be able to tmmw

[coarse hemlock]

I have work at 4 tmmw

[viscid bane]

Anybody got abuild that can cause integer overflow?

[coral crest]

It scales the visual length with attack range

What else do you need? Seriously

[velvet pulsar]

Darth Maul fashion.

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-maul-light-saber-gif-14034779

[novel bear]

35% base sc and influence
What more do you need

Good crit too
Base damage is good

[velvet pulsar]

And a weird augment

[novel bear]

At least it’s not valkyr’s exalted augment

[velvet pulsar]

Nyx 4th augment: turns duration to channelled
Valkyr's 4th augment: devolves from channeled to duration.

[lunar sun]

Hi gamers how can I improve this gauss build?

I have another with augur message instead of secrets but I'd rather keep strength at 100% min

[tidal parrot]

put on fast deflection and arcane aegis

[tidal parrot]

would you be willing to sacrafice a little bit of strength to be effectively immortal aside from a stray toxin status?

[wary forge]

Unironically it’s deflection and aegis

If u don’t have aegis just go deflection

[lunar sun]

Does aegis rank matter for the glitch(?)

[tidal parrot]

nope

[wary forge]

No

[tidal parrot]

aegis rank is for like 99.9% of casses irrelivent

[lunar sun]

Ah I might do that then, what should I replace with deflection?

[tidal parrot]

secrets

that or use equilibrium shards and take of equilibrium

[wary forge]

Take out vitality

[tidal parrot]

it looks like they are doing a thermal sunder build

[lunar sun]

Yep

[tidal parrot]

so having archon vitality is probably not that bad

ideal thermal sunderbuilds can actually just ignore strength and hit like 40% strength so i would say drop the strength

[lunar sun]

Is this gauss meta or are there other mods I should look into getting (other than primed continuity)

[wary forge]

U lowkey probably don’t need equil since ur not negative efficiency

[lunar sun]

Inb4 they nerf aegis

[novel bear]

Augur reach

Thermal sunder likes max range

[wary forge]

I don’t think gauss casts that much even with the sunder build could be wrong tho

[tidal parrot]

gus meta is basically just fast deflection + arcane aegis and then like legit whatever else you want to put on

[novel bear]

He does

2 or 3 heats and a cold to kill enemies

Thermal sunder needs as good energy econ as you can get

[lunar sun]

He does I'm out of energy frequently

[novel bear]

Dethcube is good for that

[wary forge]

Ic

[novel bear]

With synth deconstruct

[tidal parrot]

i think i recall seeing for shards you can also put on bonus orb effectiveness

[wary forge]

Prob just needs synth if he’s on equi

[tidal parrot]

(plus cast speed or 2)

[main parrot]

Any thoughts on my build it's my strongest and toughest that I have built so far

[tidal parrot]

no point in not having energy gen if you have the space tho, just more energy

[lunar sun]

Isn't 130% duration too low though? even with arcane concentration

[wary forge]

Ye

[lunar sun]

Or am I meant to just use shards to compensate

[tidal parrot]

adaptation doesnt work with persistence

(it does but not how you would like it to)

adpatation gets applied before persistence caps the damage

[wary forge]

You don’t need adaptation also piercing roar is buns it’s only good in arbis

Otherwise that’s fine yeah

Just put whatever there really

More cooldown never hurts

[main parrot]

I know persistence get turned of by magnetic but I've seen adoption take the magnetic first up the 90% before persistence gets turned off

[tidal parrot]

you can go status immune with universal orbs

[wary forge]

If you want to prevent that u can run arcane nullifier

Or use like rolling guard to cleanse it

[tidal parrot]

put like synth deconstruct on your companion and then when you cast your 3 it turns orbs into universal orbs

[tidal parrot]

not even, lavos has built in status immunity

[wary forge]

That is also true

[novel bear]

Use the 3 augment

[wary forge]

Cedo is fine just move the mods around and go viral

[tidal parrot]

aside from that companion can probably have momentous bond since your running contagious bond or atleast switch up to have redirection + reiunforced bond so you get a 60% fire rate

[wary forge]

Drop shell shock for fire rate

And ur good

You couldn’t need ur epithath to do damage just use it as a primer

U pretty much have the build I would legit swap magnum for status duration or fulmination

[tidal parrot]

you can also use hunter synergy to potentially hit 50% cc for tenacious bond.

aside from that getting the rest of the mek set could also help

[wary forge]

Do you have influence and blood rush for your melee

[main parrot]

No

[wary forge]

Ok that’s fine

Go sacrificial steel then

U don’t have it maxed I guess only thing

[main parrot]

What about galvanized steel

[wary forge]

Galv steel is fine u just have to put organic shatter over the carnis mod

[tidal parrot]

you could also elect to get like glad might or blood rush and put it over carnis mod since once you get a kill or 2 (or however many glav steel needs) you get more cd than from organ shater

[wary forge]

Just go pure cold for careen

[novel bear]

Put on reach and an attack speed mod too

[wary forge]

Ye

U don’t need elementalist with that build

I would go weeping wounds if u got it

[main parrot]

I might have to do some forma runs and I don't have Weeping wounds

[wary forge]

Ok that’s fine just use galv then

Galv says status damage but it’s not for all status

Just the status that it says on it

Like if you hover over it it should say what it boosts

[frank root]

hey peeps i need y'alls opinions about a riven for Galatine Prime which is better #1 or #2

[wary forge]

Definitely 2

[opaque meadow]

i got a soma riven just a little bit ago but i already have a set build for it, what should i replace for the riven

[main parrot]

Galv elementalist passive say status damage on kill it give status chance

[frank root]

ok thank you zach

[wary forge]

Ye it does that just only boosts gas,blast, toxin,electric,heat

Slash as well

[wary forge]

Riven over seration run Crit delay over wild fire

Don’t use incarnon btw soma is legit better with it off lol

[torpid ember]

this is actually hard.
I really love the range and high crit chance and I don't need the crit damage on voruna. Also I'm sliding a lot tho.
Tho would that right riven be considered a god roll? Not sure

[main parrot]

Old set up

New set up

[urban seal]

https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1490580116609433820

[last crater]

Guys which one should I pick

[wary forge]

Definitely not hope u picked left

Status duration is mid crit isn’t exactly mid but not ideal

Bc of blood rush/wrathful mainly wrathful tho

[torpid ember]

haven't choosen yet at all lol

[torpid ember]

i mean. I use voruna. I get status chance and crit dmg from her 1. 2 of 4 sats covered from the frame. Status duration specificially on dual ichor is pretty nice because the clouds will stay much longer. But idk..
I use slide attacks a lot tho

[wary forge]

Doesn’t matter if they stay longer if everything just dies in one hit

[torpid ember]

alr i'll take left and. keep rerolling for 4th stat

[wary forge]

U don’t need Crit on voruna bc of her first

[inner raptor]

How much kuva per roll at 347 reroll?

[ancient grove]

What stats to look for in Dera Riven mod

[torpid ember]

77k

[keen solstice]

if i put archon stretch on a character with an exalted weapon and put an electricty mod on the exalted weapon does that work?

[mental ivy]

lawd

first roll of the day i should quit while im ahead

[gray quarry]

Technically yes but it’d be a waste of capacity. Just how energy over time things are

[last crater]

Yo this is peak wth

Base 100 cr

Well

Not base

But 100 cr nonetheless

[tidal parrot]

i think you can do it for khora and a few of the other frames that were psudo exalteds since they dont drain energy like channeled abilities

[surreal gust]

https://overframe.gg/build/995285/?saved=1775457377975

Low investment valkyr build for general use or hysteria bottom mashing playstyle

[stuck kettle]

What's the best secondary arcane for damage with no ramp up? I want the best shot of 1-tapping enemies from stealth

[fallow shale]

What is superior? Kestrel Prime or the Xoris?

[frail cosmos]

Hello, I’ve changed my mods since last time. What can I do better I’m hoping to use it in SP.( I’m currently trying to get primed target cracker btw)

[rich glacier]

All of them have ramp up but arcane flare is the easiest to ramp up if you have heat procs, otherwise deadhead with 3 kills plus the bonus headshot multiplier

[lunar thunder]

guys is this 547 ?

[stuck kettle]

Ok, thanks. So the +750 damage per status effect isn't a good idea?

I guess Deadhead's headshot multi is going to be more damage if I land headshots with a sufficiently high damage Weapon

[rich glacier]

Yes

It double dips too a d stacks multiplicative to normal hs bonuses depending on enemy

Crewman has x3 hs deadhead makes it 3x 1.2

All hs multipliers work multiplicative but additive to each other

[stuck kettle]

Is Pistol Acuity better for one shooting or should I stick to multi-shot mods?

[rich glacier]

Passive arcanes, mods are all the same category. A 20% passive from synapse would make it (1+0.2+0.3)x3

I still haven't found a situation where aquity is better. Ms always gives me more dps

I really want to make it work. I can only see it work when you don't have arcane slots or mod space for critical chance and raw damage which aquity does in 1 mod slot.

[cloud pivot]

is hildryn supposed to take 9 barrages to break an artic eximus shield?

[stuck kettle]

I think that interaction is bugged, where her balefire does 0 damage to arctic bubbles.

[rich glacier]

The thing is the critical chance and extra damage needs to allow the weapon to do more than double the total damage to compensate for ms . If anyone has a weapon that works better with aquity instead of ms tell me because I'm still looking for that.

[cloud pivot]

bruhhhh

haah i should have gotten that primed radius mod

[stuck kettle]

If you see a bubble, fly inside it before firing to negate that interaction.

[cloud pivot]

noted

speaking off hildryn you are supposed to press pillage every time its up no? or am i spamming alt fire too much?

[stuck kettle]

Are you using the 4 augment? Something Gale?

[cloud pivot]

yeah

ive subsumed roar on her 3 for now

xata's whisper is a far off dream

idk hildryn just feels underwhelming to use compared to mesa, cyte and kullervo

[primal tangle]

help pls wich is better

[stuck kettle]

It requires a ton of shield regen to sustain that, I recently checked out Brozime's Hildryn build video, he used a Raksa Kubrow to fix that issue

[cloud pivot]

hah

thats why people were saying hild with raksa kubrow was night and day

imma try to get it, thank you!

[stuck kettle]

The heat damage one looks better imo, Infested are squishy so -damage against them is manageable. The crit chance is nice but the -damage to grineer makes me think no.

[primal tangle]

wb these

[stuck kettle]

The flat damage is huge, removes need for serration or a merciless/deadhead arcane.

[primal tangle]

these?

[stuck kettle]

Again, -damage to Grineer makes me think no, and Radiation damage isn't that great

[primal tangle]

ty for ur help ❤️

[stuck kettle]

Np, hope it works well for you 😁

[sonic folio]

Hah! Strength to the grineer.

[sonic folio]

Ts mf rolled a 200 crit with 110 cold....

[primal tangle]

is that bad

[tidal parrot]

iirc on how rivens with 2+ elements work is it reads their elements from bottom up which means that this if you were looking for a riven to cover 2/3 of the elements for a corrosive blast build you would want to have electiricy at the top and then heat and cold bellow

[sonic folio]

Status building is a waste on torid

[tidal parrot]

not really, corrosive blast is what you do if you wana use the torid to obliterate chaff

you could use it to take the place of 2/3 of the elemental mods with a role like the one i said, but you can also just go into crit stuff to sub for crit mods if you wanted

[mighty flare]

are you using blind rage?

[cloud pivot]

Yes

[floral tulip]

Do you guys have an up to date khora resource farming build for sp? Mine is quite outdated i think.

[cloud pivot]

I feel like i spam pillage the moment its down

[sonic folio]

"Chaff" son everthing in this game dies in quarter of a second

Helldivers is down the hall and to the left

[tidal parrot]

prty sure only change is bright bonnet instead of gara

[velvet latch]

This Acceltra build is very good for me in level cap, any way to improve?

[cloud pivot]

Yes but id like it if they die faster

[floral tulip]

This is what I've been using

[mighty flare]

you don't "need" blind rage on hildryn, whats your build look like?

[sonic folio]

Waiting for explosive to pop up is not faster at all

[tidal parrot]

i havent played helldivers in a moment (almost a year 💀). its mostly anything that doesnt have a healthbar that pops up at the top of your screen gets shreded by the gun that applies only like 12 gazilion statuses a second (so you can just keep getting to the 10 stacks of blast while armour striping)

[fossil tusk]

Hi I was wondering if someone can help me with companion and arcane recomendations for Follie?

[sonic folio]

Im not doing status build with torid gang

[tidal parrot]

no one is asking you to but belive it or not, the weapon with high status and crit does better when you invest in both instead of only one

[mighty flare]

theres this to look for help: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051
there's no specific companion important for follie btw

[sonic folio]

Tf i build 2 combined elements for hybrid

That's like half of mods slots gone for element

[tidal parrot]

blast corrosive > blast toxin

[sonic folio]

Trash vs garbage ahh

[tidal parrot]

???? when was the last time you played warframe ??? jade shadows made blast actually good

[lean tendon]

Top tier ragebaiting

[sonic folio]

Btw critical delay is a scam you literally give up 20% of your dps

[tidal parrot]

L rage bait

[sonic folio]

Firestorm torid.... ts frying me

[tidal parrot]

leme take of my crit chance mod so i can get that 20% damage back and ignore my crit

like are we serious gang

[lean tendon]

If it's frying you then the build is good because it's meant to fry

[cloud pivot]

to be fair torid already deals enough damage why not make it easier to use?

firestorm alleviates the need to aim no?

[tidal parrot]

basically yea

[green gyro]

no

[cloud pivot]

im getting ragebaited arent I

[tidal parrot]

point at general direction of enemies, get more chains, more blast procs, more stuff dead

[green gyro]

firestorm is useless unless you're shooting the floor p much

it's a dead slot on torid

[tidal parrot]

thats my prefered target

[lean tendon]

hopesque escaped, no more ragebaiting sequence

[green gyro]

there was just a bad yt video so people think it's good

[cloud pivot]

sounds like a charm, i do whip out the torid incarnon when i dont wanna use mouse and keyboard

[tidal parrot]

the dude making the video litterely shows how its good??

[green gyro]

it's misleading

but sure whatever

[floral tulip]

how is the bright bonnet better? I've been using nourish

[mighty flare]

i would run something like this instead if shield economy is a major issue (this build uses strength shards)

• the open arcane slot would be for molt augmented/aegis (if str shards)
• there's also this if you want more to look at: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1481553563485212692

[tidal parrot]

if your looking for single target yea the aoe mod isnt gona help you there, but if your aiming for clearing the whole room the aoe mod is gona do better

[cloud pivot]

idk man i just wanna make sure the 200+ plat i spent on hild is worth it

[green gyro]

no lol

[tidal parrot]

more consistent energy + free ability strength to hit stuff even harder

[sonic folio]

Playing torid is already is like having blindfold on you

[floral tulip]

What about the survivability? I've been having a pretty hard time with that. especially towards toxin and acolytes

[tidal parrot]

whip claw harder

[floral tulip]

Feels like my whipclaw is not enough to kill the acolytes thats why i usually use my weapons to do so.

[mighty flare]

loot khora usually runs negative str, bright bonnet would do nothing

[floral tulip]

Could you send me your khora + whipclaw build so I can see?

[tidal parrot]

type of builds hopesque and hampter be running on they torid

[cloud pivot]

Torid is objectively a good incarnon, a incarnon that doesnt need headshots and doesnt need aim. But requires frequent recharges is a nice breathe of air compared to alot of gun incarnons

[green gyro]

clueless

[sonic folio]

Man this guy indeed thinking getting 17% more crit chance but losing 20% dps overall is better

[green gyro]

this server is so braindead man im crine 🥀

[sonic folio]

It is

[floral tulip]

I'm even more confused now lol

[sonic folio]

Mfs be putting anything but viral on a crit weapon

[cloud pivot]

rofl why argue which ones better when both kill at practically the same thing

[green gyro]

brightbonnet khora 😭

[mighty flare]

whats does your "loot" khora build look like?

[cloud pivot]

i took torid with 3 mods into sp and it shreds

[green gyro]

slot blind rage over pilfering

[floral tulip]

• nourish

I did make this build ages ago.

[opal leaf]

Bc its a powerful gun

[cloud pivot]

Bro i didnt know you made the guide

[opal leaf]

With Incarnon right?

[sonic folio]

We don't care about that thing is this guy is made another newbie to roll a CC torid riven into base damage mod... basically trolling the newbies

[cloud pivot]

no incarnon(im trolling)

[mighty flare]

• work towards galv steel to replaced sac steel & organ shatter
• you need a toxin mod to use archon continuity, goes over glad might/organ shatter

[opal leaf]

Daaaamn really powerful isn't it hahah

[tidal parrot]

i just recall seeing some stuff how bright bonnet is better for consistent energy if your just sitting there, i havent bothered to change my khora build off of spectrosiphon. prty sure the cd shard and ability damage on corrosive are prty flexible for whatever

[sonic folio]

PSF ACHIEVED

[opal leaf]

Tbh I use Torid while not using the Incarnon mode in most part

And it still shreds SP

[tidal parrot]

been a while since i messed to much around with her but she hits like a truck

[tidal parrot]

huge damage increase

[sonic folio]

Not much as corrosive

[floral tulip]

What toxin would you recommend?, fever strike perhaps? Or maybe Virulent Scourge

[tidal parrot]

do you only play against infested and techrot?

[mighty flare]

i use fever strike cuz i have the primed version, regular should work ok too

[sonic folio]

Heat does the same thing you have like 2k hours in game don't you know the armor reduction charts?

[floral tulip]

so something like this? I could remove voltaic strike but idrk what to replace it with.

[tidal parrot]

why would i want to kill like 8 dudes at the same rate as i could kill 20

[mighty flare]

this is viral electric, swap fever strike with glad might to make magnetic toxin

[opal leaf]

Don't mind that guy, he mostly trolls

Like I remembered him recommended a Viral on Nataruk

Tried to reason out why it works less then just doing smth like electric, cause viral really cannot support it but yeah

[floral tulip]

I do have glad might on though? I replaced the organ shatter with fever strike

[sonic folio]

I'd like you do that in deep archimedia with increased damage attenuation

[mighty flare]

i mean switch their places, not removing anything

[sonic folio]

Can you show me when i did that?

[tidal parrot]

since you aparently havent played post jade shadows i suggest you read up on the new changes, notebly to smthn like blast

AoE Damage: Upon reaching 10 blast stacks OR the target dying, all current stacks will be detonated early and cause a single 5m AoE explosion, dealing 300% weapon base damage per stack (max 3000%) to surrounding enemies. The initial target of the blast procs is not dealt this AoE damage

[floral tulip]

oh, like this?

What about the arcane? Is there anything better currently?

[mighty flare]

vortex best for looting

[floral tulip]

what about the khora itself?

Is this fine the way it is?

[tidal parrot]

me when i pregnant man react to someone because im wrong 🫃

[sonic folio]

Take this and shove up your gob son

[opal leaf]

I was the one you blocked, called "The CC King" before

You argued how viral is still the best for Nataruk when literally it cannot support it cause it one shot most enemies. That's why I argued that an AoE elemental (Electric or Gas) is splausable than Viral

[tidal parrot]

tell me where your getting viral and blast from on a build using blast

[sonic folio]

Ping the message

[opal leaf]

Is this about Torid?

[tidal parrot]

yup

[opal leaf]

Too far back, this is a new acc, I deleted the account bc it got hacked

[sonic folio]

Lol sure

[sonic folio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/Jch1mkuBD1

[opal leaf]

Oh bro Corrosive Blast Torid was the G fr fr

Blast is good for Torid IncarnON bc it can stack so fast and stack on multiple enemies at once

[mighty flare]

• dont need energize, replaced with arcane concentration or molt efficiency
• with you spamming her 1, you'd want catalyzing over rolling guard/augur reach
• growing power flex for corrosive projection & psf flex for cunning drift

[sonic folio]

Read that if you can comprehend

[tidal parrot]

"Viral is better in almost every scenario, only being beaten by Corrosive once enemies are very near the armor cap."

[sonic folio]

Sure buddy boy

[tidal parrot]

it is legit from the exact same reddit post you linked

[sonic folio]

Without heat is even worse 💀

[mighty flare]

yes im working with sombra on em

[sonic folio]

Sure ignore the first sentence

[tidal parrot]

are you just brain dead? "with only heat with only heat with only heat" like i havent said blast corrosive like 40 times now

[sonic folio]

Do you feel small and in need of slurs to make up for that?

[tidal parrot]

why are slurs getting brough up???

[opal leaf]

Told you he is a Troll

"Die on a Hill" type of shit

Just ignore him

[tidal parrot]

enemy armour caps significantly earlier, blast is signifcantly better then what it was, so comparing corrosive heat in your made up enviorment pretending thats what im running is just insane

[sonic folio]

You are probably got hurt by me before and coming here now inventing made up stories about me to ride others

Thing is i don't (care) even who you are

Only one who trolling is imm because he made a newbie roll a CC riven into something shit

[tidal parrot]

i wasnt even here for that?

[floral tulip]

so, something like this you'd say?

[tidal parrot]

your just blatently lying about things now

[opal leaf]

Oh I didn't got hurt, I got tired

"to be offended is a choice" so instead of being offended, I turn my back and ignore. There are still hundreds of people who knew the same build and is better at giving builds than you are

[opal leaf]

Told you he is a Troll hahahah

[tidal parrot]

i only added something 7 minutes after that image was posted i didnt even say anything prior to about that riven

[floral tulip]

@mighty flare Appreciate the help, thank you! Also one last question for the archon shards what should I be aiming for?

[sonic folio]

Find that message you're accusing me of son

[opal leaf]

Told you is long gone father

[mighty flare]

yellow for casting speed & violet for melee crit damage

[tidal parrot]

and even then i didnt even say the elec heat one was good, i was just talking about how element on rivens work for modding

[sonic folio]

But it's still rent free in your brain do you think about me everyday?

[floral tulip]

around 3 violets and 2 casting speed?

Got it, thank you!

[mighty flare]

1 cast works fine too, up to you on which feels better

[opal leaf]

I just remember bc you show up, I have other things to worry

Still have to build for Xaku

[sonic folio]

Good i still use that to farm requires me to press 4 every 40 secs while i watch movies

[opal leaf]

Eh I got them doing CC content at Cascade

It's good

[sonic folio]

Cascade is even better if you can get 100% range modifier

[opal leaf]

Apparently I've hated them for so long and now that I have means of building Xaku, she is very comfortable

So comfortable

[opal leaf]

Her 2 quite sucks a bit, I stayed at 235%

Might go more but I'm focusing on Dura rn

[sonic folio]

Just go invisible chump

Using skills while under shade prime cloak doesn't reset it

[tidal parrot]

outa curiosity just wana know where you see me in here

[half robin]

guys is vadarya prime synergetic with oraxia? I wanna use spider mode + invis with the lightning gun

[opal leaf]

Yeah but the thing is their damage is a bit of a womp,

I use Torid on it, to utilize the Xata, Corrosive Blast ON Torid bc apparently, Blast And Xata has a special effect that I cannot explain

That's why I subsume their 3 for Omamori

And did an active shield gate

And thuz they are good to go

[sonic folio]

2-3 years in roar & forget

[tidal parrot]

Sobek is more synergistic but you can use vadarya prime if you like it and probably do just fine

[sonic folio]

That thing is like one of the best strip skills in game

[opal leaf]

Hahahaha while Roar is good, I slapped Omamori for Survivability

I want to use most of my weapons so their 2 act as a stagger/Crowd Control. But don't get me wrong, the damage is good... But I am utilizing Xata as well

[tidal parrot]

Ik I've heard some ppl put terify/pillage over xaku's 3 for a more spamable armour strip but xaku's 3 is def a good armour strip if you don't subsume over it

[opal leaf]

If only Xata can coat thier 2 I would've done things differently

[sonic folio]

Xata feels off all other 3 skills work with eachother while xata is just there on it's own

[tidal parrot]

put roar on instead of xata for maximum gun power

[half robin]

oh I'm planning to use cyte 09 with sobek

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/kemal-sunal-iyi-aile-cocugu-silence-finger-shut-up-gif-22749921

[opal leaf]

I knoe, but Xata helps the Torid

I've tried the Roar on 1 but the relationship with Blast is quite special so I'd keep it

Practical? Maybe... A bit of a no
Fun? It sure is

[fierce lark]

out of all the rivens here, dmg cd -dti is by far the best, so if that’s what he ended up with idk who’s supposed to be trolling

[tidal parrot]

Sobek is good on any frame with the extra hit abilities with the big 3 being cyte saryn and oraxia from what I recall

[sonic folio]

One day i'll make a gun volt build with shock trooper and xata subsume but im to lazy to grind xaku

[tidal parrot]

Hopesque is saying I'm the one who made him reroll which is just blatantly wrong

[opal leaf]

Good idea

[fierce lark]

whether that’s true or not, rerolling was the right call

[sonic folio]

And get a frost teammate along with it too you get triple dip

[tidal parrot]

A little below all that I added a comment about how a 3 element riven could be decent to take the place of 3 mod slots for a corrosive blast build and then it lead to hopesque going on a rant about viral heat vs corrosive heat for some reason

[sonic folio]

Though i didn't see any frosts beside me in months

[opal leaf]

I have frost but a frost teammate? I migjt use a Sentinel for it with my same build

[rich glacier]

If a riven works well on lvl cap, there is no need to reroll other than the flex

[fierce lark]

why are we trying to put x heat setups on a torid

how did that convo even start

[rich glacier]

I don't think anyone is

Guy asked for reroll tips and the giy gave him the better options.

[sonic folio]

He pulled youre using radiation with torid to me and hamster guy

I should have followed hamster and just ignored the specimen

[rich glacier]

He didn't reroll into radiation

[tidal parrot]

Cuz you were saying to use viral heat torid and I was making a joke?

[fierce lark]

the only multi element option out of those choices was elec below heat, which forces corrosive/magnetic heat or radiation

[tidal parrot]

Like I had a ms mod on with primary acuity on the joke build for Christ's sake

[versed harbor]

forget torid lets all be friends and use primary vermisplicer :]

[sonic folio]

Was firestorm a joke too?

[fierce lark]

im trying to think in my head if there’s some way to get corro blast with elec under heat

[rich glacier]

Btw the bottom element is the priority element before any calculations for anyone who wonders. If you have 1 element it will mix with bottom one first

Ember or flare

[versed harbor]

nah u cant

o wrong reply

[tidal parrot]

Nope because I didn't even recommend that riven, I was talking about what you would need to have a usable 2/3 element riven

[fierce lark]

idk what happens if you put element 1 > riven with element 2/3 > element 4

[tidal parrot]

Iirc reads riven bottom to top for element order

[fierce lark]

it does

but im uncertain how a 2 element riven comes with the 3rd and 4th element before and after it

[sonic folio]

Primed firestorm achieved

[rich glacier]

Mod priority

[fierce lark]

if it follows the usual mod thing then you’d have to mod tox before and cold after

[rich glacier]

I don't remember well but it should be mod order and the rest should follow

[tidal parrot]

If you have cold mod >elec heat riv< toxin then it would be blast corro I think

[bold warren]

@humble ocean Here is the build I’m using.

[tidal parrot]

(With elec being first element we would read but 2nd that modding would read)

[fierce lark]

anyway elements on a high-dispo blast weapon are a little wasted

blast doesn’t care about the amount of elemental dmg beyond the weighting

[tidal parrot]

Not disagreeing just saying that a 3 element riven could be nice for flex builds mostly

[sonic folio]

Blast does not concern itself with the opinion of damage attenuation

[fierce lark]

you’d way rather have 60 elementals and the riven be dmg crit fr ms

[rich glacier]

Because of the 60% status but yes

[tidal parrot]

Didn't they remove damage attenuation recentlyish

[rich glacier]

They did but not completely everywhere

[fierce lark]

the dmg cd riven he ended up with is pretty good, i’ll take that over really any elemental combination

[tidal parrot]

What's it left on

[sonic folio]

I hate deep archimedia for that

[rich glacier]

Some acolytes and murmur boss

And whatever else I am not aware of

[sonic folio]

And temporary modifiers

[tidal parrot]

Didn't they remove it on murmur boss cuz it applied to isle weaver?

[rich glacier]

Follie would obliterate it if they did

[sonic folio]

I was doing 90 per electric proc against level 460s in last mission

[tidal parrot]

Or for the book boss you can spawn?

[sonic folio]

It was like that jotaro vs dio scene even to kill basic scaldra goons

[tidal parrot]

Follie wouldnt care about attenuation since barrels would be able to bypass attenuation before it can build up

So it's not because of that

Wanna say follies abilities just can't hit bosses but I haven't thrown follie at everything but have thrown a follie at isle weaver bosses

[rich glacier]

I used everything at the boss with follie and nothing worked

Now to be fair I think it was EDA so that could be the reason?

[tidal parrot]

I mean again prty sure they would just make the abilities that scale based on hp be restricted on how much dmg they can do to bosses so you don't roar + barrel 1 shot

[sonic folio]

Would you fw @opal leaf It has both gas and blast

[opal leaf]

Idek that Blast And Gas was possible

Most common I've seen is Viral Corrosive hahahah

[sonic folio]

It has innate gas

[opal leaf]

Ah, well I haven't heard of that weapom

I might work but blast on a melee weapon? I would go Gas Electric to proc the Influencr Slop (I called it a slop bc most called it too even tho I used it. It's just good)

[humble ocean]

Do note, I'm not a volt main, so this is mostly speculation on my part. I also don't have every arcane, so I can't quite testify to any of those.

Though, if you want immediate shield gating, I'd replace a mod with an Augur mod, or find a way to equip it elsewhere like your pistol/secondary (assuming you run such)
Though I wonder, with Narrow Minded, discharge might not be as effective with Capacitance since discharge's range is destroyed. You have Equilibrium to help with energy costs, so I don't think duration is a major concern either.

Playing around a little - do note I can't gauge what Shock Trooper does all that well - what if you took that out instead if you wish to keep your discharge the way it is?

In short, my recommendations are as follows;

• Replace Narrow Minded with something such as Redirection, helping Capacitance while allowing you to shield tank
  OR

• Replacing Capacitance with an Augur mod so you can utilize Speed as your shield gate
  OR

• Replace Shock Trooper with Redirection, Adapability, or an Augur mod set.

• Streamline can also be tossed away instead if you so desire, since Equilibrium will carry you

[sonic folio]

It wouldn't be slop if they added another good arcane in it's caliber

[opal leaf]

That's a good assumption, nice observation tbh

[sonic folio]

Primary and secondaries got bunch of variety on arcanes i still find melee ones lacking

[opal leaf]

True

I mean it's till one of the metas so I'd probably use it