builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

you have omega giga turbo fire rate and then fkall damage

but ye gas is also usually bad

[proper meadow]

Ohh

[fierce lark]

(on guns)

[undone dust]

im soooo gassy

[fierce lark]

corrosive is better

better faction dmg, more useful status effect

viral is also better for the same reasons but there’s no primed cold to make it with

[proper meadow]

What effect I want then?

[fierce lark]

and you don’t need or really want any fire rate other than torrent

[proper meadow]

I don't have primed any other than the crit chance one

[old marsh]

ye. Gunslinger should be illegal

[fierce lark]

gshot diffusion primed gambit mag might

Ltorrent merciless gfight deep freeze and then 8th slot can be whatever

mgf is actually kind of a big deal if you don’t have primed cracker

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-pathetique-pathetox-cat-gif-17249104

[proper meadow]

Ok nvm with all the buffs I got 35 fire rate incarnon 7.75 base

I forgot 2 whole fire rate buffs

[fierce lark]

that doesn’t include the passive

which iirc is like 60% or smth final multiplicative fire rate

[proper meadow]

Which one

You mean the frenzy? It does I'm using underframe

[fierce lark]

oh

ask underframe how to make it kill things faster

[proper meadow]

Wdym ask

Corrosive doesn't look too good

[fierce lark]

what exactly are you calcing it against

[proper meadow]

I mean I mainly fight techrot so I don't think corrosive is good against them

[fierce lark]

no it’s not

but techrot explode when you shoot them with pretty much anything

[proper meadow]

Not taking any element could also work

[sharp ember]

Hello what's a good shade prime build?

And what warframes does he go well with

[viscid elm]

Why do you wanna use shade ? And it goes well with casting frame if I remember well because shooting break the invisibility

[sharp ember]

I got a couple parts and bought the rest

[sharp ember]

Ohhh so wisp prime is a good idea?

[viscid elm]

Wisp doesn't need shade at all your already invisible when your in the air and your damage are bound to your ability to proc the 3 generally with weapons

[weak pasture]

hey guys new player here, quick question, is it good to replace brimstone on uriel with nourish? since i mainly focused on gun platform

[viscid elm]

You could but quite the damage loss I think maybe use roar it could be better since the pets already generate health orb and energy orbs (so a lil equilibrium)

[weak pasture]

thanks for the tip

[viscid elm]

It's nice to remember than roar buff all damage like faction mod on all abilities and weapons

But nourish is not a bad pick either even if Uriel 4th is quite broken

[steep schooner]

guys what do think of replacing ember's 1 with roar, is that a good idea or should i keep her 1 for heat feathering? (i could still do with with 2 and 4)

[sharp ember]

Oh darn i was thinking about using that one arcane needing to be invisible

Also what's a good companion for wisp then?

[viscid elm]

I think wisp passive can proc it

[sharp ember]

Some ppl said it doesn't maintain well or something

[viscid elm]

Generally you use companions to prime a bit or use bond mods so actually every compagnon can be useful but diriga and nautilus prime are the general pick for any frame (or some beast but I'll stay on drone)

[viscid elm]

Yeah I don't think it's quite stable you would loose it on the 3 when you fall to the ground to cast

[sharp ember]

I have those

[viscid elm]

So yeah maybe shade would make it more reliable

[sharp ember]

And shade once suspension is lifted

[sharp ember]

Alright niceee

Is there a warframe that really wants shade like best in slot?

[viscid elm]

Theirs a mod to upgrade even further the critical damage multiplier with a bond mod on the companion

[sharp ember]

Oh what mod is that

[viscid elm]

I don't remember shade being useful to that point a good diriga or Nautilus are too broken for that

[sharp ember]

Idk how to build my Nautilus ngl

[viscid elm]

Humm wait a bit I need to make research (I'm french so I need to translate the mod lol)

[viscid elm]

All companion build are now just bonds mod

Tenacious Bond for the crit (https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Tenacious_Bond)

[sharp ember]

Aight take ur time frère

[sharp ember]

Oh yesh i think i have all the bond mods

[viscid elm]

Generally you put the most useful bonds mod and then the capacity of the drone and some survivability for you or your drone

[weary yacht]

which should I grab?

[viscid elm]

I would say crit one generally but maybe some can differ

[stuck kettle]

Which build is likely to perform better on average?

On a frame with over 1500 armor at all times

[viscid elm]

Viral electric vs viral ?

[stuck kettle]

I was looking more at full status vs status/crit

It's a toxin base but I can swap elementals around if there's something generally better

[viscid elm]

Hybrid one maybe but it doesn't need elementalist I think if no dot you could test it in the simulacre

[stuck kettle]

Yah, probably should

[dawn stratus]

any1 got a good exec slam build?

[viscid elm]

Overframe may have suggestions but you'll have to use the slam mods for sure

[rich glacier]

Her invisibility breaks upon shooting even with hush mod equipped

It works if you have really slow firing weapon where you go invisible faster than your fire rate

[viscid elm]

Yeah so not really reliable I didn't knew you should pin the person who asked it's useful for him lol

[vestal magnet]

If I want semi AFK nuke build for the nautilus prime and verglas prime I should not put galvanized mods like in this build ?
https://overframe.gg/build/717216/verglas-prime/steel-path-shredder-status-spreading-dps-beam/
Because I tested it and I think its trash even tho its 800 upvote.

[naive hinge]

any idea for biginner build for enkaus ?

[sonic axle]

Any advice on building Gyre?

[viscid elm]

You got the nautilus build too and a good frame to support?

[viscid elm]

Use snapshots on 3-4 with augments

And a crit weapon with good multi shot (if first augment) or just beam / cadency

[vestal magnet]

i want semi afk like this build :
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ue8MB-cR-AI

i ask the question because i want understand what is good and what is not

i will use it with a tanky frame revenant dante nova and so on

as support but good damage

[viscid elm]

It relies on the room your in for this build I think and also the oraxia ability that have a damage vulnerability effect

[viscid elm]

Just good heat damage and enemies not to far from eachothers and a spark of luck to start the chain

[vestal magnet]

the initial question is are galvanized mods are good with verglas ? yes or no ?

[viscid elm]

Non necessary I think

Make it a bit less consistent

[vestal magnet]

ok thanks

[versed harbor]

it only triggers if you yourself get a primary kill (and it cant be a shotgun)

so usually u avoid it unless ur using mainly a non shotgun primary

[vestal magnet]

Ok tyvm

[sullen ridge]

Anyone have a strong chroma prime steel path build?

[proper meadow]

its perfect

[sonic frost]

How do I get 300% range

[wet cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/minigun-i-know-youve-been-looking-for-this-specific-one-shoot-fire-gif-17220094

How much fire ra-

YES

You can also give more with Arcane Acceleration and frame Like Wisp, Uriel for boost it even more

[proper meadow]

I have arcane acceleration and strength built harrow

And furax

[wet cobalt]

Furax? Oh the amalgam one

[proper meadow]

Yes

[sharp ember]

Can someone help me improve my ember

I use this build with diriga synth deconstruct so I'm never out of energy

My problem is that it doesn't deal any dmg at all

I use torid for primary

What am I doing wrong or missing?

[naive hinge]

what stats to focus on prime gauss ?

[versed harbor]

range if using thermal sunder, high duration always good on him, strength isnt needed unless using certain subsumes

[viscid elm]

Max at 280

[versed harbor]

efficiency up to u but you can get 30% basically for free with seismic bond

[viscid elm]

Strength and duration generally

[sharp ember]

Any ember prime mains?

Or is she cheeks

[viscid elm]

Her player base depends on her heirloom skin I think XD

I heard thing with her 1st augment to give all her weapon fire in a good amount but nothing incredible about the rest

[versed harbor]

tbf shes rly bad but try a weapons platform style build with her 1 augment

her ability dmg is really bad and it actively works against you because of how heat inherit works

[quartz star]

Does anyone have any suggestions on a good wukong build?

[sharp ember]

NOOOOO

I BOUGHT HER TO GET THE SEGGSY HEIRLOOM TOOOO

I WAS HOPING FOR AZZ BUT NOT THIS TYPE OF AZZ😭 😭

[versed harbor]

u might like a weapons platform setup its what shes best at rly

[sharp ember]

Ohhh

Like what ??

Pls don't say hotshotPls don't say hotshot Pls don't say hotshotPls don't say hotshotPls don't say hotshot

[versed harbor]

use her 1 augment for the fire buff and some nice heat dot weapons (beam weapons come to mind)

hotshot is nice but never required

[sharp ember]

THANK GOD

[sharp ember]

And phew i was gonna subsume it ngl

Well I'm using torid incarnon will that do?

[mighty pelican]

i dont believe there is any frame where torid isnt gonna shred anything anyway

[sharp ember]

And how should i mod her instead

[sharp ember]

I just got it yesterday

And im new compared to everyone else

[mighty pelican]

fair

its just stupidly op

[sharp ember]

Nice i like to hear that

Hope it doesn't get nerfed also what's the most op build for it?

[umbral trellis]

Which archon mods should I put on my Lavos Prime?

[versed harbor]

https://overframe.gg/build/309617/ember-prime/general-use-weapon-platform-ember-steel-path-nourish-and-other-options/ heres a nice guide for platform ember (also not using heat weapons cuz its awkward)

has weapon builds at the bottom of the build guide

[sharp ember]

Can u share the most op build to make torid even more crazy?

[sharp ember]

And thx

[sharp ember]

BRO WHAT'S THIS BUILD IT HAS NO STATS

Barely any range or strength

And why use firewalker?

It seems useless

[versed harbor]

it has 3 augments :\ obvs its lower stats and ember buffs strength with her passive

[versed harbor]

its an exilus mod its flexible to whatever u prefer

[sharp ember]

Why corrosive projection doesn't she strip enemies already tho

[spice ravine]

https://youtu.be/9HbEmjEtMWk?si=1g3ZjZjJVqZ4j4KJ how does this build gain shields on ability cast without augur mods?

[sharp ember]

How should the weapon platform build be played anyway? Do i just use fireball to buff weapon and then activate Immolation ?

[spice ravine]

ive built it exactly the same way but I got no overshields

[versed harbor]

pistol augur mods probably

[versed harbor]

spread fire procs to get loads of strength from her passive and snapshot that strength onto fireball frenzy and ur subsume of choice

and use fireblast for strip and overguard sometimes

tbh I dont rly get corro projection here either but I usually double cast fireblast so up to you again

doesnt rly mention in the guide either

[sharp ember]

Man did they to murder ember with the nerf 😭

[sharp ember]

I'm not gonna subsume probably also will this make torid even more crazy or am i just lying to myself at this point

[versed harbor]

idk when they nerfed ember

think shes just power crept atp

[sharp ember]

They def didn't berf her they straight up murdered her

She does no dmg

[versed harbor]

she never did dmg 💀 tbh

[sharp ember]

Oh u poor thing....

Google old ember

[versed harbor]

I played back in the world on fire days mate

[sharp ember]

Absolute nuke clearing nations with one ability from what i seen

[versed harbor]

world on fire was only good because low level missions were played (eg no steel path)

[sharp ember]

Wait u serious???

Soooo she's due a buff right?

[versed harbor]

I mean kinda yeah but she has been buffed recently

[sharp ember]

THIS IS BUFFED AMBER?!

[versed harbor]

by recently I mean like last year 💀 but it wasnt much

[sharp ember]

Bro

Is there a way to sell her or get her off my acc💔

Won't be able to enjoy the heirloom skin is npc enemies will feel like bosses 😭

[versed harbor]

try revisit her later maybe

maybe she'll get buffs or you'll have more funky weapons to try on her

[sharp ember]

Yeah tho she will be haunting me in circuit from now on💔

[versed harbor]

if u want something similar to world on fire but it actually does dmg try gyre

gyre doesnt be hitting that crazy world on fire range but her dmg actually scales great into late game

[sharp ember]

She's in my foundry and protea and mesa

All primes and scared to claim any after the trauma i got from ember

[versed harbor]

naw embers the outlier trust

[sharp ember]

I'm traumatized out of a heat relationship (toxic but ember)

[fierce lark]

if you want something that’s ember but actually does dmg play droid

[sharp ember]

Who

[fierce lark]

hydroid

[sharp ember]

Oh no thx i want my acc to only have cuties

[versed harbor]

ye I also love him

[fierce lark]

although real talk ember’s ok

hard carried by fireball frenzy, but it’s hard to overstate how strong a massive unconditional heat dmg buff is

[sharp ember]

Hmm is she lvl cap lvl of strong with frenzy?

[versed harbor]

basically everyone can lvl cap tbh

[sharp ember]

What's the truest form of strength then

[versed harbor]

comfort

[sharp ember]

Like meaningless lvl of op

[versed harbor]

and speed

[fierce lark]

with frenzy + roar ember can probably buff just about anything functional to work at cap

[opal leaf]

Comfort and able to survive

At least that's on Ember

[sharp ember]

I see

[opal leaf]

That's what I always see on ember or what they talk on ember

[sharp ember]

So i should mod her with aug mods then just straight up survival with a bit of range duration and str and archon vitality?

[opal leaf]

I think she is Augment Reliant

So yes

[versed harbor]

augs are good ye but archon vitality doesnt rly do much cuz her ability dmg is bad

if ur doing weapon platform dont bother with archon vitality

[sharp ember]

So it's not necessary for weapon plat????

[opal leaf]

It doesn't mean she is "weak", she is really weak

She strong, just got out performed by other

[sharp ember]

Bro :(((((((

[opal leaf]

Yes

[sharp ember]

This day just keeps getting worse and worse first suspension now this😭

[fierce lark]

archon vit is for heat exalteds and ability dmg, does 0 if you’re killing things with weapons

[opal leaf]

Why you must've seem to like Emver

Don't focus on Frames that out performs her, but focus on her specifically

Make her likable, make her strong

The mods and guides are there

It's not hopeless tenno

Now I gotta shower

[sharp ember]

I tried, i have been trying
I know she's not the best
I know uriel bodies her
But i have hope

And i think i just lost it all

[sharp ember]

Enjoy brother and thanks a lot

[fierce lark]

uriel is moreso different than just better

[sharp ember]

Is there any category he doesn't body ember in(besides azz)

I understand the silence bro

[fierce lark]

his heat buff is a lot weaker but it comes with guaranteed dot and fire rate, he has a much easier time keeping up hotshot but applying heat to everything breaks heat inherit and makes his guaranteed dots a lot weaker, he has a status cleanse+full heal button but no way to innately generate overguard or armor strip (other than heat status)

[sharp ember]

Bro 😔

[opal leaf]

I think the difference is

Uriel is more a caster (and yes I know he platforms)

And Emver is more a platformer

[fierce lark]

a lot of those things don’t matter because uriel equips max range high duration + concentrate presses 1 4 and melts everything in a 40m radius for 25 seconds

[sharp ember]

Guys

Im already dead u can stop shooting💔 💔 💔

[fierce lark]

?

[opal leaf]

He/she loves Ember but the result makes him dead

[fierce lark]

i gave you a pretty long list of things ember does better than uriel

[opal leaf]

Knowing Ember is "weaker." (even tho she is not)

[sharp ember]

Idk i feel like u just showed me what an actual good frame looks like compared to ember 😭

[fierce lark]

if you care about something being slightly weaker than another then you should literally play only saryn and sevagoth and absolutely nothing else ever

[sharp ember]

But yeah thanks either way at least i didn't invest too much into her

That's the good side ig

[sharp ember]

Gng slightly is slightly an Understatement😭

[fierce lark]

like you completely ignored the point i was trying to make and spun it into nonsense

[sharp ember]

Yeah sorry

It's just idk im too disappointed to see anything good

[opal leaf]

Can you post what can ember do better than uriel

[wary forge]

Her dmg buffs are better

That’s about it really

[rich glacier]

Overguardgate that's it

[sharp ember]

I will give her another chance

Cause im too deep in already

[wary forge]

She’s a good frame very comfy

[sharp ember]

What's another regret

[sharp ember]

Really?

[wary forge]

Yes

[sharp ember]

Show build if u play her

[opal leaf]

There is no regret

What made you think Ember is weak in the first place hahaha

[sharp ember]

Imma just copy I'm tired of trying builds and testing them myself anymore

[opal leaf]

That's what I heard

I might get Ember tbh

[sharp ember]

Thanks bro

[fierce lark]

ember has a way to generate overguard via an augment, something uriel can’t do without equipping an arcane that he doesn’t really want

her heat buff has a way bigger number on it, iirc demonium is base 30% with fire rate and guaranteed status, embers doesn’t have those but it has a base 100% and it’s not conditional like picking up runes, just augment and hold 1, massive heat dmg buff is crazy strong for high lvl scaling

also ember can subsume roar with her buff, uriel has to replace his

and uriel likes hotshot, but in order to use it he has to press 1 which gives things heat status which breaks heat inherit and causes his guaranteed heat statuses to be a lot weaker on anything he or his demons inflict heat to through his 1

[versed harbor]

shes just warframe weak (outclassed by other frames but still usable in most content)

[opal leaf]

She can do Overguard???????

OHHHHHHH SHIT!

[wary forge]

2 casting speed 2 equilibrium shard one strength

[opal leaf]

Overguard are always the best

[fierce lark]

healing flame augment makes her 3 give hp and converts excess to OG

[versed harbor]

and also she has to ignore most of her kit's purpose to perform properly like alot of older frames

[rich glacier]

Yes it is around 25 overguard per enemy hit with her 3. Which is also her armor strip ability. It scales with strength

[wary forge]

Arcane precision

What ever arcane really

[fierce lark]

its on her armor strip ability and also scales with strength

[opal leaf]

Ah slightly less than Frost but aight that's good

[wary forge]

I ussaly go secondary focused builds with emeber shes really good with furis and dual TOX

[fierce lark]

oh yea ember can armor strip, Uriel can’t without a subsume beyond heat status

[rich glacier]

To be fair the overguard earned is low. It should get buffed or let ember do her 3 as 1 hand cast

[wary forge]

It’s still good even as a low amount

And the fact that you can have it up pretty much the entire time

[versed harbor]

overguard is paper anyway u just want the gate and the status immunity

[opal leaf]

What gate?

[fierce lark]

0.5s immunity when any amount of overguard breaks

[opal leaf]

Ohhhh

Literally Overguard Gate hahaha

[fierce lark]

functionally the same as shieldgate but with og

and duration is fixed at 0.5

[unborn summit]

any suggestions for my first warframe that is a prime?

[wary forge]

That’s why she super comfy you got dmg reduction overguard gate and catalyzing gate

Then you just press 3 to shield gate and yeah it doesn’t interrupt any actions

[mental night]

anyone able to judge this Cyte build? i think its quite funny
also gonna throw in the Exalted Sniper too, judge away

[fierce lark]

tf is arcane victory

[fierce lark]

acuity turns off multishot, you can’t run it and chamber together

well you can but chamber does nothing

[mental night]

aight, ill swap it out for this then

[opal leaf]

Win

[fierce lark]

needs an elemental dmg mod

argon scope is just another 90% crit adding onto the already existing 400% or w/e

hellfire or stormbringer would add another separate 90% multi

or primed cryo if you have it

[shrewd badger]

im basically done with sevagoth and have already done octavia, what do yall think i should do next for my max investment ability nuke warframe build? suggestions?

[fierce lark]

i would say gauss but the “investment” is like 1 forma and buying the sprint boost aura that you’d never use on anyone else

[shrewd badger]

oh and also done with equinox

ooh ok gauss interesting

[near crater]

Hey got a question about gauss. What stats should I focus on? I feel like he's one of the frames that benefit from all 4

[fierce lark]

not exactly

he either doesn’t care about str or doesn’t care about range depending what you’re building into

[shrewd badger]

yall have any max investment ability nuke builds yall recommend?

[naive hinge]

as a first time buying from barro what should i buy ?

[fierce lark]

sunder nuke doesn’t care at all about ability strength and it can be left at 40%, or you can equip like 1 shard + impetus to get it back to 100 if you’re using kinetic plating as survivability

if you’re doing weapons platform with thermal transfer then you can completely ignore range and efficiency

either way the only stat he always wants regardless is high duration

[near crater]

Not sure to be honest. I just started

[mental night]

he has 10% status chance though

[near crater]

I would want survivability and crowd control, if anything

[fierce lark]

read the next part

[near crater]

I do have the impact augment for mach rush

[shrewd badger]

are ninjases gauss builds highly recommended or should i go on youtube?

[fierce lark]

ive never copied one of ninjase’s builds and felt bad about it afterwards

[shrewd badger]

so i should?

[heady palm]

is heat good for the vesper 77?

[fierce lark]

frame builds are personalized and you should decide for yourself what feels best for you, but you can copy his and likely do fine

weapon builds are mostly math and he knows what’s up

[fierce lark]

rifle aptitude may as well be an empty slot

[mental night]

its 75% status

[fierce lark]

that will bring your status chance from a terrible 10% to a slightly less terrible 17.5%, on a weapon that’s supposed to be killing things in 1 shot before it can apply any statuses

[shrewd badger]

ahhh gotcha ok thank you

[mental night]

if you want sheer blinding speed, try this

[mint isle]

is this good for wisp general build (that can withstand sp) if not whats a nice build

[rich glacier]

Constitution is overkill for the slot. Put streamline. Replace blind rage with transient fortitude

[fierce lark]

that just looks like the ninjase build, but arachne is cringe

i forget if he had any range modded for breach surge but id probably put stretch over augur secrets

[rich glacier]

Oh and invisibility disables upon shooting so keep crepuscular only if you want to use some rocket launcher with crits

[fierce lark]

invisibility from aim gliding, not from her 2

[rich glacier]

Yes

[fierce lark]

which is why there’s so much duration

[rich glacier]

It is really stupid. They should make it like ivara. On ivara you can slap hush mod and she stays invisible

[hexed lodge]

Ninjase's are always good builds, especially for general players... but if you want to chase the more top-end builds for warframes, you gotta find their true mains that have deep knowledge of the frame.

[sharp ember]

Can i recover shield while being immune from rolling guard?

LEZZGGGOOOO

[fierce lark]

ivara can’t do anything other than walk slowly when invis

loki can do allat while being invis without it being channeled or affecting his speed

[sharp ember]

Imma settle on this build empty slots gonna be fire ball aug and rolling guard

She should hold up in sp circuit like this

[rich glacier]

I get it but her hs multiplier is insane

[fierce lark]

you should drop quick thinking and add an augur mod so you can manually recharge your own shield

[sharp ember]

I used augur on pistol

Need more?

[fierce lark]

oh no

[sharp ember]

Ohh wait i can do augur reach instead of stretch

[sharp ember]

Oh aight i thought u were gonna say it won't proc unless im using pistol when casting

[fierce lark]

you only need 1 augur from anywhere more is useless

[naive hinge]

does heated charge buffs uriel throw inheritence

[fierce lark]

transient or umbral int then, quick thinking won’t do anything, if anything above like lvl 500 hits your hp bar you’re just ded

[sharp ember]

Lol are u counting dmg reduction tho? It stacks with the energy drain and reduces it

[fierce lark]

you’re trying to go to lvlcap right?

[sharp ember]

Yuuupp

[fierce lark]

if a lvl 9999 grineer bombard shoots you with its sheev, the damage before mitigation is upwards of 6 million

[sharp ember]

PAKISTANBOMBARDADG- Ahem does that mean quick thinking will drain all my energy instantly?

[fierce lark]

no it means you’ll die instantly lol

i don’t think quick thinking has any kind of gate

[rich glacier]

Catalyzing shield gate or persistence gate. Take it or leave it

It doesn't I tied some long time ago. I died almost instantly

[sharp ember]

But doesn't it work like an extra final gate ?

[sharp ember]

Awh man

[fierce lark]

if you’re shield gating then you’re already using your energy to survive anyway, adding quick thinking is just self sabotage

[sharp ember]

Alright alright gezz what should i use then?

[hexed lodge]

+10 dead mod slot

[fierce lark]

you don’t want your hp to take damage, you want to press 3 every time your shield drops so that you regain your shields and overguard

[hexed lodge]

prob efficiency? gives you a larger safety net for gating

[fierce lark]

more strength

[naive hinge]

..

[sharp ember]

Isn't her passive and molt augmented enough str tho?

150%

[fierce lark]

what is throw inheritance supposed to mean

[rich glacier]

Replace quick with fleeting expertise. The armor strip is permanent. 175% efficiency is a must

[fierce lark]

“enough strength” isn’t rly a static value for gunbuffing

[naive hinge]

heat
-# nice google correction

[sharp ember]

She will have like 290% str in game

[fierce lark]

how much damage do you want to do?

[hexed lodge]

If nobody answered, there is probably nobody on that knows the answers... try again in a few/couple of hrs

[fierce lark]

jesus do NOT run fleeting on ember

you’re gonna be recasting buffs every 20 seconds

[sharp ember]

I'm not running fleeting I'm using arcane and aura and stuff my final str will be 290% i calculated it

[fierce lark]

if their first source of heat status is from his 1, his 4 or his demons then no

[rich glacier]

But how is he going to overguard gate without fleeting? I want to cook with ember too.

[sharp ember]

Should i go for more str?

[fierce lark]

without primed flow it’s a little sketchier but 100/130 eff should be enough

[rich glacier]

I wish her heat combined for blast like back then :(

[hexed lodge]

Sounds like you may want to use Thermal Sunder+augment instead

[sharp ember]

Eh oh yeah I'm about to buy it so count it as primed

[rich glacier]

Ohhh I didn't think of that. Heat inherit with weapon and blast. I'll have to use bane mods on primary but maybe I'll find something

[sharp ember]

Sooo i should use intensify for 330%str?

[fierce lark]

higher number = better, just up to you what room you need for other stuff

[sharp ember]

Well i think i have all necessary utilities now

Final build empty will be fireball aug +rolling guard

Whatcha think brotha? @fierce lark

Did i cook or am i cooked?

[hexed lodge]

Ember question; does she suffer "warframe vulnerability" for any of her abilites?

[fierce lark]

im not too sure on rolling guard, it's nice but you already get status immunity from having overguard

may be something that needs to be felt

[sharp ember]

Ehhh i just wanted a last layer of safety that's not energy or ability reliant any better ideas?

[fierce lark]

what is "warframe vulnerability"

the only idea would be more strength really

[sharp ember]

Lol fair enough

Yeah i think i will already be shredding enough especially since imma gonna use torid as primary so i will go with the safety net

[hexed lodge]

Sorry, some abilities will leave the warframe vulnerable to damage instead of immune while using the ||operator||.
I am wondering if any of Ember's abilities apply that.

[sharp ember]

So any final notes or comments? @fierce lark

[fierce lark]

my guess would be yes, it will 100% apply if you have immolate active, and most buffs apply it as well but im not sure if that includes buffs that only come from augments

but you should be running roar on ember anyways and that does apply vulnerability during transference so yeah, doomed

[fierce lark]

not much else i can add

[sharp ember]

Ay ay thanks a lot man u were great help and gave me some hope back

[hexed lodge]

huge 💀 for cascade then , thanks

[sharp ember]

Also sorry forgot to ask but could u give me ur torid build if it will work with ember i just got it's incarnon so idk much

[fierce lark]

my biggest thing on the ember vs uriel thing is that ember doesn't ruin her own heat dots by just existing

anything you press 3 on will get heat status though so you need to not use it unless it's necessary

but then when you do use it it comes with 50% armor strip so it makes up for ruining your dots in its own way

[sharp ember]

3rd is the heat release one? And will the 4th have any use or should i just subsume for roar or nourish

[fierce lark]

4 goes for roar usually

[sharp ember]

Got it!

[sharp ember]

Alsooo

[sharp ember]

SANKU SO MUCH BROTHA

[fierce lark]

vile accel is flexible, if you have external fire rate you can put elementalist there instead

(ie reinforced bond)

[sharp ember]

Don't think i have neither lol

[sharp ember]

Also i feel bad for vigilante supplies bro give it a lil upgrade

[fierce lark]

i have a max ranked one

just don't have room for it there (and it wouldn't do anything anyways)

[sharp ember]

Hmm what if i use hunter munitions instead?

[fierce lark]

thats not an exilus

[sharp ember]

No i mean instead of vile

[fierce lark]

would be trash

[sharp ember]

Damn aight😭

Vile it's

[fierce lark]

slash sucks, it was only ever good because you couldn't do damage to steel path armored enemies unless you could strip 100% of it instantly

[sharp ember]

Cause idk where to get elmentalist one

[fierce lark]

elementalist drops from ascension on brutus/uranus

[sharp ember]

Vile is stronger anyway right?

[fierce lark]

vile would be a lot better if you have no other fire rate sources

[sharp ember]

Easy to get?

[fierce lark]

pretty easy

[sharp ember]

ELEMNALIST IT'S

[fierce lark]

shouldn't take more than a couple runs to get one to drop

[sharp ember]

I have a body history with jackal rare mod hunting

30 runs got everything besodes that one pistol mod no way it was 7%

[sharp ember]

Btw what other sources are there for fire rate?

[rich glacier]

@fierce lark Do you play ember with primary or secondary? I'm using flare arca e so save up damage boost slot but anything I use does bad damage

[rich glacier]

Arcane acceleration is my favourite

It goes on wf

[fierce lark]

reinforced bond is the only universal one i can think of

there are class-specific arcanes, amalgam furax body count for secondaries only

[sharp ember]

I see

[rich glacier]

Acceleration is exclusive to primaries and doesn't work on shotguns

[sharp ember]

Ngl idk what to put instead of high voltage

I'm not spending 60 plat on a mod😭

[hexed lodge]

Just use the 90% electric mod for the meantime

[rich glacier]

Purple shard

[sharp ember]

Wut

[sharp ember]

Aight also why are ppl so crazy about it is it so rare?

[rich glacier]

Have you unlocked wispers of the wall?

[sharp ember]

I finished all the stories

[rich glacier]

Ok so use purple shard on helminth

[sharp ember]

Binged that shi for a day

What do they do?

[rich glacier]

45% extra damage as electric +15 per shard

[sharp ember]

DAMN WHAT

[hexed lodge]

Yes, you either hope Baro brings it, or farm it at an average of 5% chance to get when farming Hive in Eris

[sharp ember]

Ohhh does that mean i should buy the gold mod he has rn? It seems kinda cheeks tho

[hexed lodge]

The top effect

[rich glacier]

Save your plat and do ETA and EDA for purple shards

[sharp ember]

THAT SOUNDS SO OP

[rich glacier]

It is meta for primary weapon platforming

Electric is also the best dot element

[sharp ember]

Even for torid?

[hexed lodge]

If it's an electric mod, yes, they are rare.
If they are physical damage mods ( / / ) then no

[sharp ember]

Think it was melee puncture?

Or rifle recoil idk

[hexed lodge]

i don't know what Baro has rn, not at home sowwy

[rich glacier]

I will log in via phone

[sharp ember]

Crazy nice stuff bro u should check it

Bought redirection heated charge and gonna buy flow once i farm more ductas

[hexed lodge]

I already have all Baro's (good) stuff
yes, even all the bane mods...

[sharp ember]

I hate bane ones

I will never buy em unless i wanna sell em for plat later

[hexed lodge]

yea they are not mandatory, they are only useful for min/maxing or you are person like me that makes loadouts based on faction, which i'm clearly in the minority

[sharp ember]

Booo you loadouter!

Lmao sounded too like a slur ngl

[hexed lodge]

new slur unlocked to use in my friends' discord server

[sharp ember]

What a lidder

😂

[grim pivot]

regarding the soma prime, since the first evo gives 100% base damage, would it be ideal to not run any serration in the build and replace it with cd or another element

[naive hinge]

does gauss have ammo efficiency ?

[tired bridge]

so ill go and start play steel pqath for the first time, any nuilds for follie on that path?

[hexed lodge]

I think you're refering to the "+10 Base damage increase" bonus? If so, yes you still want to run +damage mods (or arcanes) like Serration cause they scale of "Base Damage"
The incarnon evo is increasing the "base damage", not adding damage like serration.

[fierce lark]

no lol it's useless

[hexed lodge]

Yup, that is still a "base damage" increase, it ain't like an "additive damage" bonus like Serration

[grim pivot]

i know, im asking if its worth replacing serration for an element or more cc

since the evo covers that

[fierce lark]

the evo doesn't cover it

[grim pivot]

i understand the number will be bigger with serration but is it worth it

[fierce lark]

serration multiplies the base damage

incarnon evos add onto the base damage

the evo multiplies with serration

serration is giving you the same gain with or without the evo

the evo should not factor into whether you run serration

[hexed lodge]

it doesn't, Serration still multiplies (adds) based on that increase.
So for example,
Base damage is 60 + Serration's 165% = 159 dmg
Base damage is 80 + Serration's 165% = 212 dmg
Base damage is 80 but no Serration = still 80

[fierce lark]

the only unique relation incarnon evolutions have with base damage is that most of them aren't affected by the damage given from galvanized aptitude/savvy/shot

[hexed lodge]

Oh really? That's interesting to know

[grim pivot]

i see, thank you

[hexed lodge]

Is this a recent discovery or am I blind and never noticed it in the CO sheet?

[versed harbor]

banger resource

[versed harbor]

nah this has been known since release

[fierce lark]

probably the latter, i don't believe it's recent

incarnons haven't been out for that long

[versed harbor]

sometimes u still use gun co its just a bit case by case (more base dmg from the evo means less effect from the gun co mod)

[hexed lodge]

good to know i need glasses

[versed harbor]

gotta research a lil depending on weapon

[lost hull]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[hexed lodge]

oh i'm still gonna use multiplicative gun co if applicable, should not be huge dps difference tbh, but it's at least interesting to know now

[naive hinge]

how much stats for gauss and uriel ?

[fierce lark]

i would say multico is a noticeable difference but ive never run a gun that has multico without co

the coda hema with the aug, a tazicor and just dagath's 3 buff is hitting over a mil per bullet sometimes on fully armored corrupted

[sacred hedge]

how should i be building my trinty prime because i have a tank build her but what so other builds i could use

[shrewd badger]

hey so for my gauss ability nuke spam build, im using equilibrium, for my shards should i use a casting speed shard or effectiveness on energy orbs shard

[rich glacier]

I will share mine later. I use coda caustacyst with purple.shards

[shrewd badger]

Because the other shards are gonna be ability duration

[wary forge]

Do you want to do a slam build

[pallid quiver]

champions blessing health tank is good

[warped eagle]

Guys is somebody use main hildryn here

[sharp ember]

Btw what's an op general xoris build?

[sharp ember]

YES?

SHE'S MY FAVORITE AND I SPENT SO MUCH TIIME PERFECTING HER AND

[sacred hedge]

how do you build a nova nuke build

[torn karma]

One thing I don't understand about Voruna is that their are 5 wolfs but only 4 passives

[lyric token]

There’s only 4 attached to her. She gets her abilities from them, why would she get an extra passive when she already has 4?

[civic gulch]

so i finally got equinox, which of her abilities is the one that nukes everything?

[astral tinsel]

maim, her day form 4

[oblique depot]

How bad would you guys say this riven roll is?

[green gyro]

very

just trash price, like most rivens

[oblique depot]

roger that, thanks for the info

[mental night]

thoughts on this Cyte-09 build? second pic is his Sniper

[civic gulch]

seems ok just if you have any more duration mods then change redirection and vitality for these mods cause he doesn't really need any survivability cause you just always stay on his 3 and nothing really sees you so you can't really be damaged, i recommend you using narrow minded if you have it

[pseudo flower]

Does anyone know if primed chamber interacts with blast the same way faction damage does? I see a lot of people compare primed chamber's multiplicative damage to faction damage mods. And i know blast double/triple dips with xatas whisper and faction damage mods.

Does that also apply to primed chambers damage?

[civic gulch]

that's my build for him with 0 formas, i don't really use his sniper while playing him i just use other guns like soma or AX 52 so i don't have a build for it but that cyte build works well on everything (at least things like steel path etc i haven't tested it on things like archimideas yet)

[sharp ember]

What's the best balefire charger build for hildryn prime?

[naive hinge]

i got an idea idk if its true
wont corrosive be better than viral cuz it affect sheild and health ?

[tidal parrot]

corrosive doesnt do anything to shields iirc

[earnest saddle]

corrosive only affects enemy armor

magnetic affects shield (and overguard)

viral affects health

[naive hinge]

@earnest saddle@tidal parrot when it reduces armor wont this make the damage more on them ?

[tidal parrot]

iirc shields are unaffected by armour

so yes but it would only be to the health pool that is taking "more" damage

[earnest saddle]

armor does reduce damage taken by 90%, viral amplifies health damage taken

so if you can combine them you'll be in good hands

[naive hinge]

so if i can have only one of them viral is always better cuz it damages health more ? and armor affect only health ?

[wary forge]

Viral heat is better then corrosive heat for the most part yes

[spice willow]

Any fulmin yareli builds? I'm mr4 if it matters

Or secondaries good with yareli at mr4

[tidal parrot]

for the fulmin just put on cold and toxin elements then mods then as many different mods that give stuff like damage, multishot, fire rate, crit chance, crit damage, and status chance

[weary frigate]

Yareli is a secondary platform, but i don't think you have many good pistols as MR4

[spice willow]

Why cold and toxin?

[tidal parrot]

overall just focus on progressing through the story and getting and ranking as many new things as you can to increase your MR and increase what weapons and other things you will have access to

[tidal parrot]

cold + toxin will make viral, viral and the inate electric from the fulmin will probably be more than enough to get you through most the game

[spice willow]

Oh yea

[tidal parrot]

between that and putting on mods for all the different stats then you will probably have a decent weapon for most of the game that with a few upgrades could take you later into the game although there will likely be some upgrades you will swap to as you progress

[spice willow]

Yareli is a secondary weapon frame so are there any ok/good mr4 secondaries?

Like how about the mirage signature secondary

[tidal parrot]

at the point you are likey at in the game you can probably get away with basically any weapons rn as long as you just put some mods on that are different (ie one with multishot, one with damage, one with fire rate, etc)

[spice willow]

I think I'm going against lvl 28-32 enemies, does this change anything

[tidal parrot]

not really

once you get past new war is where imop most people start re-evaluating builds

up-untill that point though you can kinda just put stuff on and do decent

[spice willow]

Not even at Natah yet so I don't need to worry Abt builds

Imma just use mirage pistol

[tidal parrot]

like just as an example smthn like this (not all at the same level as i have ofc) will probably be easily more than enough for a majority of the game with the fulmin

you dont need to max everything out (especially the status mods since those can be some of the larger drains on capacity) but should atleast be a decent idea on what to put on the fulmin

[spice willow]

Don't have fulmin prime btw but thanks

[astral ermine]

what do we think about this riven chat

[tidal parrot]

its fine, only major difference is some polarities and the stats being a little bit better, most of which wont make to much of a difference in terms of what content your doing. just about any weapon can be made to be "viable" its mostly just a matter of the mods on it. so dont worry to much if you dont have a prime version of a weapon

[spice willow]

I don't have vital sense 🥺

[tidal parrot]

whats your ign?

[spice willow]

Colossus_Burger

I can get on in like 3 min

[tidal parrot]

lmk when ur on and ill shoot you a msg/invite and throw a few mods at ya

[spice willow]

im on rn

[wary forge]

No negative so it’s useless

[glossy current]

i have been brewing up this combo in my head and rlly dont know if it could work aswell as i thought, what do you guys think about tenet spirex with a secondary irradiate setup?

[rose owl]

if i mod 300+ power and 200+ duration on volt it would be bad ?

[opaque badger]

Does ash’s 3 finisher move use whatever melee I’m using for the base damage?

[gilded sedge]

how can I inprove my dual toxocyst ?

[wary forge]

Yes

Scales of th base damage and moded base damage

If your using the augment it’s gonn kill no matter melee really so it doesn’t matter that much

[opaque badger]

I see

[wary forge]

Just mod corrosive go punch through to have it aoe clear

[opaque badger]

What should I build the melee towards then?

[wary forge]

Also don’t go enervate go fortifier

[wary forge]

Just base damage mods like pressure point stuff like that

Faction mods work attack speed makes it quicker anything that buffs your shadows works on your 3

[opaque badger]

Condition overload wouldn’t work?

[naive hinge]

i have diriga with cold viral and electricity will it proc magnet also ?

[wary forge]

Ye but I mean don’t really over think it with just the augment and base damage on your melees it’s gonna kill level cap

[wary forge]

It force procs electric with arc coil and then whatever you mod on it’s gun is what it’s gonna proc

[opaque badger]

Honestly I have no idea what I’m doing when I’m actively playing ash. Do I build up my combo counter with teleport then use my ult for maximizing my damage? Or is there another playstyle I should switch to

[naive hinge]

so no need for electricity ?

[wary forge]

If you’re using arc coil which you should be then yes

[wet shard]

No those two are his most desirable stats but you do want range for his 4

[wary forge]

There’s really only 2 ways to play him as a weapons platform or using his exalted to kill everything

[opaque badger]

Lemme rephrase, is there another way I should be playing around his ult specifically?

[naive hinge]

what elements should i put on diriga's weapon as a support ? i have the mod that put all the elements in his weapon in the next attack

[wary forge]

You just spam recast blade storm an it builds up combo

[wary forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MXE5U7aUXmvkGyAntCR-mO_oL2N46gHCHQcEH-shiww/edit?usp=drivesdk

Just follow this

[naive hinge]

i have only Manifold Bond

[wary forge]

Most of the companions mods aren’t that expensive/hard to get

[naive hinge]

Tenacious Bond needs rank 3 in venus

[wary forge]

Ok

You use tenacious bond on every companion

[chrome cedar]

Someone here has a good Gyre build?

[wary forge]

If you don’t have the mods an or can’t/don’t want to invest in Diriga then don’t its not that much of an investment most of the rare mods are like 5-10 plat

[near vortex]

You need rank 5 on Fortuna anyway

[magic crescent]

Does anyone have a Nautilus prime grouping build?

[naive hinge]

to use the condition overload on the mele is this build good ?

[naive hinge]

why ):

and iam still kinda new

[lean tendon]

to unlock Vox Solaris

[naive hinge]

whats ths

[lean tendon]

and Profit Taker

[near vortex]

Because Profit Taker, Vox Solaris, heavy weapons and all the good stuff

If you want a good Amp you'll need PT

Or a shit ton of sentient cores

[lean tendon]

syndicate

mostly for the amp parts but other wares are also good

and Profit Taker is one of the best credit farms + it also unlocks Archgun Deployer

[naive hinge]

.

[near vortex]

It's better than nothing

[mighty flare]

There’s examples: #1477881092093640827 message

[chrome cedar]

Ty bro

[lone haven]

hi, what would you choose on titania's dex pixia with archon continuity - pistol elementalist instead of hornet strike or galvanized shot or keep it that way? I have a hound or panzer for priming

[magic crescent]

Please?

[lone haven]

im using xata's whipser as well, that's why I have blast

[wary forge]

Gotta be atleast rank 4 in vox and in quills on Cetus to get the best Amps

[earnest saddle]

manifold+contagious (momentous and duplex optional) bond with verglas prime modded for viral+heat

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a voruna build for steel path with her 4? tryna make one thats able to handle doing anything on SP for when her prime comes out

shards included?

[viscid bane]

Thoughts on Tonkor build?

[frail cosmos]

Is this good, if not what can I change?

[wary forge]

Cautious shot does nothing

Also don’t build it status based it’s got bad base status and aptitude doesn’t do anything just go base damage

[weary frigate]

Add some crit, and increase your elemental damage.
But i don't think you should invest more in hek, there're a faction variant and a kuva variant both are better than this base one.

Also, if you're using base hek, you should be alr with the current setup.
You can try freeing some capacities by removing fatal acceleration, so you don't need to invest more forma into it.

[wary forge]

Ye just wait to get the kuva hek

It’s a pretty solid single target weapon

[viscid bane]

So something like this? Cautious shot is way too comfy to pass up

[tidal parrot]

@mighty flare got my zaw, how should i be building it? ik ive heared exodia contagion and melee influince but i have 0 idea how i should be modding it past that basically

tried pulling up some guides/builds but they all seemed to say melee aflictions or were like from 5 years ago

[fierce lark]

drop fatal acceleration, move the polarity onto another slot like point blank

drop blunderbuss, the base hek has really low crit chance

[wary forge]

Just go corrosive

Corrosive blast prob best

[fierce lark]

run mods to make viral or corrosive + heat, and you can actually run ravage without a crit chance mod, you'll get 25% crit chance just from getting 5 puncture procs

[mighty flare]

influence contagion needs like lavos or you'd use status parts

[wary forge]

No it doesn’t

Any frame can do it with naramon

Ideally it’s status parts ye but you can do it with the exposure Zaw

[tidal parrot]

i went with whatever you had told me last night

gona assume by the 10% sc that i have a cc part

[wary forge]

If you’re not doing level cap it doesn’t matter you don’t even need naramon

Or to try and get 12x combo

[tidal parrot]

im mostly just looking for some guidence on how to build it

[wary forge]

For zawfluence

Or exposure

[tidal parrot]

no idea, i was told that this was basically the equivilent of glaives but for zaws and thats like all i know

i know more about kitguns then i do zaws

[fierce lark]

all the vargeet links lower your status chance in favor of crit

[tidal parrot]

this is the first time ive touched zaws in my like 2.8k hours in warframe

[wet shard]

I think it’s because of contagion

[wary forge]

Influence is better for trash clearing then exposure and is just better in general

[weary frigate]

Haven't checked for a while. Can we still slap 2 dexterity arcanes on archgun and say goodbye to naramon?

[fierce lark]

ye

[tidal parrot]

i figured that contagion is the thing that makes it the glaive equivilent but thats about as far as i got

[wary forge]

Yes it is

[viscid bane]

There's no way to do that without giving up primed cryo right?

[wary forge]

Yes

[fierce lark]

if you take a vargeet 2 dokrahm and try to do influence you're only proccing elec about 25% of the time you hit anything even if you have 12x ww

won't be great

[tidal parrot]

this is as far as ive really gotten with the build for this so far

i can grind out some stuff to make another zaw here probably, especially since its only an hour craft time for zaw parts

[astral tinsel]

modding Voruna for SP is not exactly hard, here's what I run, works fine

[wary forge]

You don’t go blood rush

Cause u subsume wrathful

[astral tinsel]

well, usually I run muzzle flash over 4, but yea

[wary forge]

Attack speed is nice for qol since it increases the throw speed

[tidal parrot]

i am not a fan of wrathful to be blunt

[fierce lark]

i thought you subsumed eclipse

or is this for mirage

[tidal parrot]

no set frame

[wary forge]

Eclipse u go for duplicate

[tidal parrot]

just general throw it on a frame, but if it does matter then probably with chroma rn

[wary forge]

Influence is just better then duplicate tho but ye

For influence u want to go wrathful

Bc it’s low crit Zaw parts

[wet shard]

Weeping and then elementals or faction, idk if reach affects the radial range of the arcane

[mighty flare]

influence on crit parts felt awful, you'd go raw dmg with exposure/duplicates

[mighty flare]

you'd just go raw

[wary forge]

Yep

[mighty flare]

stop the larping

[tidal parrot]

still using contagion even if not doing influince?

[wary forge]

Always go crushing rain

[wary forge]

All I play is chroma Zaw bro

[mighty flare]

follow this

duplicates flex for exposure

[wary forge]

Chroma you don’t go base dmg

You don’t need ppp

[mighty flare]

did they mention a zaw specifically for chroma?

[wary forge]

Ye

[tidal parrot]

.

[wary forge]

He said chroma

But ye that build is fine just don’t need base dmg on chroma

[tidal parrot]

ideally it would be smthn i can throw on whatever but thats what config slots are for

[mighty flare]

then keep ppp its fine

no reason to change, not like it wont 1-shot on whoever

[wary forge]

Faction mod is last slot or riven if u have it

[tidal parrot]

can i go with the secret 3rd option?

[mighty flare]

add another elemental mod, faction on zaw is funny

[wary forge]

Condition overload is multi co but it’s only the initial hit it’s why Zaws can trash clearing and do single target if you prime enough

[wary forge]

It’s multico with the aoe

[tidal parrot]

im a big hater on bane mods and likely will be outside of either very specific instances like to follow guides for meta things like meta arbis or untill they add a universal bane mod that isnt roar

so ill keep it noted that bane mods are funny but will elect to not use them

[wary forge]

Well chroma is especially good with bane mods in general

Since you don’t want to mod base damage on your weapons with chroma

[tidal parrot]

as soon as we have a universal bane mod ill be more than happy to go put it on everything i own

[wet shard]

Does range affect the radial range of contagion?

[wary forge]

You can do 6 mods on Zaw an it’s gonna kill everything don’t even matter really

[wary forge]

No

[compact karma]

Howdy yall, could I get youre guys opinion on a good primary arcane for the Aeolak. Leaned fully into the status aspect of it, wasn't seeing good damage with primary debilitate, switched to the arcane that gives increases status chance and ammo efficiency, but it isnt hitting as hard as I want it too. Dont want to depend on a frame to get that hard hitting feeling so if yall would have advice on getting it to hit harder would be great. If its true that it just needs a weapon platform to get to that level ill accept it, trying everything in my power though to bring out the best of this weapon.

[tidal parrot]

like i 100% understand that bane mods are good, i just find the fact that theres only 5 bane mods while theres like what about 12? or more factions, in addition to especially for prime bane mods are quite expensive and can make builds less understandable for friends / newer players who dont have access to all the bane mods or are doing a wide variety of content in which a bane mod if not swapped will just be a dead slot

[compact karma]

If it helps, its multiplicative gun co on direct hits which is why I leaned heavily into status, chose gas and electricity.

[wary forge]

I hard disagree with this if you’re new you’re not gonna have many damage mods and there’s only gonna be 4 factions you’re fighting

So just use bane mods gonna be a dmg increase even the non primed ones

[tidal parrot]

to each their own ig, im still not a fan of there being less bane mods then factions that exist, id probably be significantly more ok with them if there was a 1:1 ratio of banes to factions or universal bane but untill then i will probably continue to not make use of banes

[wary forge]

Well I mean for the content that is like actually hard there’s bane mods for them

[tidal parrot]

Dokrahm cant equip crushing ruin stance, only (alteast from what i own) cleaving whirlwind, tempo royale, and rending crane

[compact karma]

On the bane mods subject. I truly use bane mods only in endgame content where that extra damage boost means they die just a second sooner which keeps me out of deep water, like EDA.

[wary forge]

Go crane

Contagion inherits the damage multiplier of the first initial combo

[mighty flare]

oh mb, misread as rabvee, yeah go crane

[wary forge]

First neutral attack of the equipped stance to be more specific

[tidal parrot]

im noticing that its not building up combo with the contagion (which im not supprised by) would it be worth while at all for galv reflex for initial combo if im not using stuff to have a 12x combo constantly?

[wary forge]

It would be but go get 12x combo you have to use narom and rauta

[mighty flare]

combo aspect of contagion not worth considering
the only combo mod you'd ever use would be weeping wounds for influence

[wary forge]

Doesn’t matter tho you don’t need 12x combo

It’s legit just mini maxing and only for level cap

[compact karma]

Why not use both the galvanized relex and curropt charge for 6x multiplier

[tidal parrot]

i mean i sometimes go do some level cap cascade so having it be atleast viable for it would be preferable even if its not the best option

[wary forge]

Zaws are the best option

Zaws can do everything

It’s slam 2.0 but just better and more aura

[tidal parrot]

i was 1 shotting level cap with my chroma and xoris so i figure that everything im doing is just to have more variety

[wary forge]

Chroma can use any melee and take it to cap but ye

[tidal parrot]

tbf chroma can probably take just about any weapon to cap with a 2x fissure boost having like a 2k base damage boost is kinda a lot

[wary forge]

Don’t even need fissure cause vex armor multiplies nourish he really can use any gun and take it pretty easily

[tidal parrot]

idk i use omamori to just never die with persistence

[wary forge]

You don’t need omamori with persistence

[tidal parrot]

guardian armour augment alone doesnt hit the 500hp/sec to outheel persistence but omamori is the breaking point

[tidal parrot]

kinda do if guardian armour is your only form of healing

[wary forge]

Just use a beast companion

[tidal parrot]

i live and die by my dethcube

[wary forge]

I only use chesa

[tidal parrot]

i mod everything in a void to some degree as well so that i can basically take anything and everything into archmedias with no problem

[wary forge]

Sometimes panzer but ye

[tidal parrot]

i ocacsionally use my panzer or hound and on a rare occasion my moa if ive decided i want to fight my teamates last gen consoles specifically

[wary forge]

If you got good kpm just armor can keep you alive it’s a bad mod tho cause it doesn allow to snap shot vex armor

It’s good if you don’t want to snap shot but ye

[tidal parrot]

i like snapshotting egregious strength buffs so i think ima keep it, also (i like never use vex armour without guardian armour) im prty sure recasting vex armour while its still up can also keep high strength vex armour snapshotted

[wary forge]

It doesn’t

[tidal parrot]

its just easier with guardian armour since both you and your teammates can just kill to keep it up

[wary forge]

You have to wait for it to expire and then recast it

And if you’re doing that then theres no point to use guardian

[tidal parrot]

i mean if you dont see any enemies around you and you wana keep it up there very much is a reason to recast

[wary forge]

It’s a good mod yesh

[wary forge]

Yes exactly

All recasting vex armor does is refresh its duration

[tidal parrot]

just tested it, you can recast vex armour to snapshot without needing guardian armour augment

[wary forge]

Ye it’s only with guardian armor it doesn’t work

[tidal parrot]

it does work with guardian armour

[wary forge]

I don’t know if the mod is bugged or something but ye

[tidal parrot]

you can recast with and without the augment it doesnt change it

[wary forge]

Yes but I’m saying like

If your using molt augmented

This is gonna be hard to explain

But like basically if you are using molt an getting kills while your vex armor is on reacastijng it won’t give you more strength to have to wait for it to fully expire vex armor just takes your current strength value from when it’s cast

[tidal parrot]

thats how snapshoting strength works?

[wary forge]

Yes

[tidal parrot]

like weve been knowing this twin 🥀

[wary forge]

Then what are you trying to say

[tidal parrot]

that this comment was wrong, because you replied to me saying that vex armour can snap shot strength with/without the augment and then you said it doesnt, which it does. so im confused as well here

[hollow scarab]

any tips?

[wary forge]

I meant like the augment doesn’t really do anything if u want to snap shot since your vex armor is gonna be perma up unless you let it expire which doesn’t change whether you have the augment or not

[tidal parrot]

true but if were taking off guardian armour and using a subsume other than smthn like omamori then where are we getting the hp/s to keep up/outpace persistence

[wary forge]

Cause like either way you have to let it expire to snap shot that was my point really

[tidal parrot]

thats what running into nullfier bubbles / off the map is for

[wary forge]

Ye

[wary forge]

Furis has a lifesteal mod but I just do synth deconstruct with restorative bond and or just the hunter synergy mod on my beast an it’s enough having all 3 on you’re gonna be fine

If you’re doing a melee build your pet shouldn’t ever really go down cause of pack leader

So you use frenzied posture to make it attack a bunch

[tidal parrot]

idk as ive said i like to mod my stuff in a vacum and i like the flexibility chroma has with weapons that are good for horde clear basically just being giga buffed to the point of 1 shotting acolytes as well

(5 strength shards for the love of the game)

i just use this as a flex build where i can basically just throw on any weapons that are modded half decently and take them into realistically just about any content minus mabey level cap

[wary forge]

Yeah I mean that build is fine

You don’t even need any survivability with anything that’s not level cap your base armor and hp is gonna be enough

[tidal parrot]

yea pre persistence i was def armour maxing and probably had like molt augmented n probably still blessing because it is an insane ehp boost

[wary forge]

Yep blessing is still way more hp then molt its nice if u want to change the elemental on your 2 which I do a lot especially for boss fights cause toxin ward is op

[tidal parrot]

but as soon as persistence droped i stopped armour tanking

[spice willow]

i feel like i can change something so its better, so what do i change?

[tidal parrot]

swaping around the elemetnal ward is like the only reason why my 1 isnt subsumed off on my build i normally use (unless im credit farming)

[wary forge]

Yep there’s some funny stuff with the 4 that u can do but most of it is super niche even using it to use siesmic bond on your companion is pretty cope

Nothing wrong with ommari if u want to feel more comfy I’ve actually been using evade and it’s pretty nice

5x strength isn’t bad but with 2 tauforged blues and primed flow u can get 1k energy and platform something like primary overcharge

[tidal parrot]

i could but its really funny having an egregious vex armour boost. ill probably have to get a 2nd chroma so i can play around with shards more tbh

[wary forge]

Ye he can good use of it cause with rage an or hunter adrenaline as long as you’re getting shot you’re gonna have the 1k energy

[tidal parrot]

@spice willow first one you have is fine, just swap priamry acuity with split chamber and put on rifle aptitude (will need to move around mods so put infected clip where primary acuity is)

[spice willow]

dont have rifle aptitude, any alternative

[tidal parrot]

i can give ya an aptitude

[spice willow]

thanks

need my ign?

[tidal parrot]

i can go grab it again rq

[fierce lark]

rifle aptitude ⬇️

[tidal parrot]

gota get status chance somehow without 60/60 mods

[tidal parrot]

which element would i combine with toxin here? feel like DoT final result is probably ideal so im thinking gas but idk

[fierce lark]

malignant force is like 5p

and a joke to farm

[tidal parrot]

i was thinking about mixing elements but like i can also just put on malignant force

[fierce lark]

it just replaces the toxin mod

[tidal parrot]

mostly just for bigger element number

[fierce lark]

rifle apt should be stormbringer

[tidal parrot]

oh im thinking of the wrong thing

thought you repplied about the zaw thing, nvm carry on

[patent tundra]

Got a question ... Is the weapon the uh-

The coda Bassocyst a good one ? I really can't be sure

[tidal parrot]

its bassically a side grade to tenent arca plasmor

technically it has slightly more stats in a handfull of areas ranging from like 4-6% more than the tentn arca plasmor overall. so to put it more clearly. yes it is very good

[patent tundra]

Guh uhm ... I haven't progress that far in the game to have done Sisters hunts and get tenet weapons

A lot of websites & videos put this Coda in the S tier list, but why so ?... They are vague about it

[tidal parrot]

gunco is multiplicitive and primes a bunch of enemies

[patent tundra]

Alright, well this reassure me that I did a good investement then, thanks

[fierce lark]

generic nonspecific rifle build should generally look like this

but rime rounds is a little expensive/painful to farm

[patent tundra]

Luck got that one already phew

I gonna try to cook something up with this ... Disgusting fleshy shotgun thing and share it here another day to try have feedbacks, I'm still the type of player who doesn't really know what they are doing when it comes to choose and modify guns for the right jobs

[wary forge]

Rime rounds like 20-30p

[fringe quarry]

Torid build ?

[fierce lark]

works best with a tazicor-equipped companion

if you actually want to prime with altfire you can swap magnetic progenitor for electric or heat

swap viral to corrosive vs grineer/scaldra if you aren't armor stripping

primed tac pump can be w/e you want, completely flexible slot

if you dont have any primed elementals you might want to run 60/60 virals and charged shell/incend coat for more ele dmg

[wary forge]

Basocyst isn’t like plasmor reload it’s not that crazy

But I mean there’s not to much to slot anyways

[fierce lark]

it's that, more damage you likely won't need, or like

ammo stock is cool

50 round mag basso

[wary forge]

Ye

[vague cape]

Gyre, anything i can change to make it better? its a ninjase build

[fierce lark]

circumvent is enough to more or less solo survivability if you're actually rolling when you see eximus/other overguarded enemies

you can drop the entire shieldgate package for rolling guard + more stats

umbral int/transient fortitude + primed cont

and molt augmented or molt vigor instead of aegis

don't feel obligated to spend 30k endo to max rank lightning dash lol it's purely for fun, i have cunning drift there

i actually find neutral duration very annoying to run with conductive sphere

[past bobcat]

do i ask questions about frames here or is this only mods?

[river palm]

ask away

[bitter sinew]

Which arcane does tenet glaxion benefit more from debilitate or crux?

[past bobcat]

two, first im new here so how do people approach the various element's for weapons in the game? and second, what's the best... summoner, necromancer, corrupter character in the game?

[graceful plank]

For being new to the game a pretty good element combo is Viral+Heat

[umbral turret]

Nekros is a straight necromancer

Caliban can summon some minions too

But not really that evil magic vibe like Nekros is

[dire terrace]

Any good builds for dual toxo incarno and the evo stages.?

[olive karma]

revenant and nyx can both technically mindcontrol somebody iirc

[past bobcat]

but what's the character who focuses the most on it?

[dire terrace]

Anyone up

[umbral turret]

Nekros' core theme is a necromancer, and as said Revenant and Nyx can corrupt minds

[dire terrace]

Tyyy

[spiral chasm]

u gotta add that this build requires arcane precision for base dmg

[dire terrace]

Why?

[wary forge]

yes

[spiral chasm]

theres no base dmg. galv shot is bugged with the incarnon bonus not applying on the base dmg

[wary forge]

it does go hornet over crosshairs if u dont want to use precision

[spiral chasm]

the build is very thrax focussed

because that is your biggest threat in void cascade

[wary forge]

it clears adds just fine

u do gotta hit ur shots tho noly thing

[spiral chasm]

yeah for the frenzy passive

[past bobcat]

what about the element part, is there a one size fits all meta? or am i going to need constantly switch mods?

[spiral chasm]

for corpus its always pure toxin

[wary forge]

corrosive/viral beast in slot for p much everything

[spiral chasm]

also merciless gunfight instead of seeker

basically a better seeker mod

[past bobcat]

not sure which, what about meta? is nekros or revenant a pitfall or are are they decent?

[past bobcat]

thank you, last question. any reason i shouldn't use the meta or is the game more fun that way?

[noble berry]

Don't worry about meta stuff unless you're doing the real endgame stuff. Mess around with weapons and frame and find ones you find fun, and build them how you wish.

[mighty flare]

not gas, viral/corrosive

[umbral turret]

Use whatever you think is coolest, all the ones said could work

[spiral chasm]

invest in the stug

trust

[wary forge]

theres no meta in this game 90% of the weapons are useable just use what ever

[past bobcat]

thank you so much. see you on the other side

[dire terrace]

Soo different arcane?

[spiral chasm]

you can use secondary deadhead for sure

fortifier is good for level cap because thrax' have overgaurd 2x their HP

[wary forge]

fortifer is just overall good even in eda/eta thers gonan be bunch of eximus

[dire terrace]

Ahhh I seee

Soo best to get is deadshot or

[wary forge]

ye or secondary merciless

[spiral chasm]

deadhead if u dont wanna slot arcane precision on ur frame

[past bobcat]

and thanks to every one here. i was wondering if i should do various loadout playstyles for the different elements. glad to know it'll work just fine. hope to find you all in game

[spiral chasm]

the ricochet bullets from DT generally help you headshot most of the time

[wary forge]

there def is but just go viral heat/corrsovie heat on everything and thats gonna be ideal

magnetic is a very good element deals extra dmg to overguard the white overhealth ur not gonna really have to worry about it and also u dont often just mod pure magnetic since theres magnetic mods from 1999 that just have good stats on them that you run

if ur new nothing is gonna have crazy overguard really just a late game thing

[past bobcat]

thank you for the tip, ill remember that for end game.

[wary forge]

theres a good rifle mod that gives mag cap and magentic thats just generally good cause both of those stats are just good on a lot of stuff thats what i mean when people dont go out of there way to mod it kinda thing

[dire terrace]

Okkk

[naive hinge]

what to chose ?

[wary forge]

final fusilade, swift deliverence, suvivors edge

[limber dirge]

Hey folks, I thought I heard some people say the Enkaus works well with Dagath. Is this true? It didn't seem to interact with her 3, but I wonder if I'm missing something.

[wary forge]

its got low crit stats and dagath can give it viral

dagtah can use any weapon and it make good so ye

[deep grotto]

how well would this thing do in TA lmao
Its probably the worst thing ever but i dont have galv shotgun mods yet
ive been trying to slap more ammo mods onto it
is that even worth doing though?

I dont have all the challenges, but i have frictionless flight and mounting momentum atn

any suggestions? Barring Galvanized mods obviously

[versed harbor]

try to get the last evolution cuz it lets u run a no crit setup which slaps

otherwise just swap the ammo stuff for elements tbh get corro or viral or w/e

[deep grotto]

me who's using dagath rn:

[versed harbor]

goobed

[deep grotto]

Im taking on the goober dimension for the first time

hence me asking
i need to
prepare™

i see what you mean though

what in the goddamn

i also need to fix up this goddamn thing
I don't care nearly as much about the Stropha but getting it fully built would still be neat

[fierce sapphire]

Don't mind the stupid way I'm posting this build. Would this be good? Its for a kuva nukor.

[static sphinx]

How good is Lavos, and is he good without augments?

[wary forge]

hes good becuase of his augments

[wary forge]

ok im ngl thers not a single mod here besides mag might

[tidal parrot]

you got 10 mods listed in there bud, imop while impact can net you more statuses you dont really need it.

you can do convolusion instead of heated charge

[wary forge]

just keeping it a buyck

[static sphinx]

That's unfortunate. Guess he will collect dust until I won't be broke.

[wary forge]

1 plat 🥀

but yeah thats good build

[tidal parrot]

spent it on stuff for the zaw and meta arbi loadouts

[wary forge]

having exactly 1 is crazy work

like thats aura lowk

[tidal parrot]

may or may not have rushed a forma for 6p because i didnt wana wait 30m

🥀

[wary forge]

🥀

just sell heated charge and get it back from baroo EZ

[tidal parrot]

this is where the zaw is at tho (might look at swaping exposure for duplicate but not sure)

[wary forge]

looks good

yeah 3 forma its not that bad

[tidal parrot]

lwk could since i have a legendary core but im to endo poor to do that enough to make a difference 🥀

[wary forge]

duplicate is good with eclipse cause contagion and duplicate both doulbe dip with eclipse

[tidal parrot]

they dont double dip like glaives can with chroma vex armour tho correct?

[wary forge]

i know eclipse applies twice to contagtion

[eternal prism]

1

[wary forge]

1

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/stuck-his-hand-in-the-cat's-mouth-cat-meme-cat-licks-finger-black-cat-gif-6060486166583365754

[tidal parrot]

rereading what i wrote is schizo asf,

they dont double dip with chroma's vex armour correct?

1

[wary forge]

you cant even go eclipse on chroma with subsuming vex armor off

[tidal parrot]

put vex armour on mirage
im asking independently of eclipse cuz iirc both eclipse and vex armour double dip with glaives and im checking if its the same with contagion

[bold warren]

HOW SHOULD I MOD A KUVA NUKOR

[rancid totem]

anyone got a miter build

[wary forge]

yeah its the samething as eclipse for contagion

[eternal prism]

secret garuda eclipse tech

[wary forge]

it adds the base damage and then multis it

it gives the base damage and then acts as another multi

[eternal prism]

just mega skip zaw
u not need that🥀

[wary forge]

vex armor op

[tidal parrot]

@bold warren

[tidal parrot]

problem is i did and now after 2.8k hours i finally crafted my first zaw 🥀

[eternal prism]

🥀

[tidal parrot]

lowk it is tho, minus his 4 vex armour is such an insane damage boost as well as can free up mod slots on weapons its prty chill tbh

[wary forge]

it really is

ive been preaching chroma a top melee frame

[eternal prism]

btw punch through in nukor doesn't work well enough

[wary forge]

just everyone is voruna kullvero pilled

[bold warren]

I don’t quite have all these mods and its only 44% Magnetic. Does this still apply?

[eternal prism]

for some reason at one point I wanted to check and it really wasn't very good

[tidal parrot]

yuh, just swap whatever primed mods you dont have with non prime counterparts

[tidal parrot]

i mean better then no punch through tho no?

[potent flint]

Especially with glaives

[wary forge]

yep

[tidal parrot]

tbf chroma likes glaives as well cuz with guardian armour it makes it really easy to blow up a whole room and refresh the duration basically completely

[eternal prism]

As many say, it's better on aoe. But previously, Nukor could hit up to 4 targets. Now it only hits 2 this mod not effective at all

[tidal parrot]

but the funny number stuff is probably more so the reason

[eternal prism]

elec or heat mod more better
or hornet strike if u have another elec/heat source

[tidal parrot]

wdym 4 now 2? it still chains to enemies it also just can shoot through an enemy or even a door

[summer crest]

today I Got ALL the parts for the latron wrait, should i incarnon It or sell It and get a prime?

[wary forge]

ye espcailly stuff with really base damage like coda path and falcor

[eternal prism]

This crit loss is not significant at all and is covered by elemental damage/base damage

[eternal prism]

mod has a short length

not even 1.8

Previously, it could effectively hit the same target twice

It also raised potential aoe

But since this is no longer the case, it makes almost no difference whether punch through is there or not. (in clearing/solo targeting)