builds-discussion

[wary forge]

ik its slop but like

[split mango]

@ember condor show me ya mesa build buddy

[gray quarry]

I have traces, later I can help crack if needed

[opal leaf]

Pure finisher as that's their damage

It clears the enemies

[ember condor]

Scroll up if you want to witness the cognitohazard that is my current Mesa build. If you can even call it a build.

[wary forge]

u jsut go finisher with influence

[copper surge]

The gas is supposed to kill the folks in-between, and why would i keep ash's 3 if i have wa?

[opal leaf]

Wait let me pop up my ash build

[wary forge]

u dont really need cresendo ur gonna have max combo most of the time

[copper surge]

Well thats the thing, i dont. Wish i did

[copper surge]

Sorry i meant you

[split mango]

nah your new one

[gleaming vapor]

man wtf is diumbral mesa without persistence

[opal leaf]

Added cause it's better than Shurikens

Join your clones and deal the exact damage your clones give

[gleaming vapor]

ts lowk ass

[wary forge]

that shdadow clone is lowk fine just dont go proton snap

[ember condor]

I don't have a new one. I cannot fix a Mesa with 3 Umbra polarities and no Forma to my name.

[copper surge]

But doesnt it make it do more damage with more sta chance and clear them out faster?

[ember condor]

That build is what I had on Mesa before I started using her years ago.

[split mango]

i see

[ember condor]

Now I need to find a way to salvage this with her Heirloom now on the way.

[wary forge]

if u wan\t ur clones to clear faster just go more attack speed

[opal leaf]

I want to see my clones kill them and see them numbers

[wary forge]

status just isnt gonna help u sure proton is addative

jsut go more dmg its gonna be better

and or attack speed

[opal leaf]

Yee

Like... As what he said

I go damage so I go finisher damage

[copper surge]

Alright then, thanks folks

[opal leaf]

You can do influence like Zach said

But either one works

[wary forge]

Ye

Influence with electric for the chance they do proc a status it can mass spread

[untold wren]

Caster xaku. Tempest barage or roar?

[meager pebble]

How should I build my follie for general sp use?

All rounded

Viable for most scenarios

(Pun not intended😭)

[pallid quiver]

ive seen most people run nuke on her

apparently her energy econ is good

[gray quarry]

Roar

[mighty flare]

~180-200% strength with positive range/duration
can look here for more help: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051

[pallid quiver]

is that mirage p offer still open? 👀

[mighty flare]

(however you wanna survive is up to you)

[gray quarry]

This is what I run

[gray quarry]

Slap equil on her and energy for days since her 3 range expands will kills(and increases duration with kills too)

[pallid quiver]

her decoy seems pretty strong right

also does anyone have any idea how to build the enkaus 😭

[mighty flare]

yeah? wide radius to spread ink for generate more orbs

[gray quarry]

Hadn’t figured it out yet

Gonna see if overframe is updated

[pallid quiver]

i mean as a survival tool

[gray quarry]

Nope, overframe isn’t uodated yet

[mighty flare]

you'd swap vile for shred + sinister reach for better trash clear
crux flex for overcharge/debilitate

[gray quarry]

I wonder if it works on acos or bosses

[split mango]

Yall mind if I see yalls mesa builds that are focussed around spamming her 4 as much as possible?

[opal leaf]

It always the reference build hahha

[gray quarry]

I was seein if ninjase has a build yet, but overframe isn’t updated so can’t

[opal leaf]

It just sucks in general

[pallid quiver]

the enkaus u mean

[regal edge]

Is the Kuva Ogris viable for Profit Taker? Or is the regular Ogris better suited for it?

Also, since I plan to get the Kuva Ogris anyway, even if it’s not for Profit Taker, what would a good progenitor be?

[quiet laurel]

Kuva ogris for killing the pillars

[regal edge]

That’s what I was hoping to hear. any progenitor recommendations?

Or does it matter?

[prime prawn]

can anyone help me with my nataruk build pls it does pretty good dmg but ik it can do more

[split mango]

Heat, radiation, corrossive, toxin

Same as normal

[gray quarry]

Corro isn’t a progen element.

[opal leaf]

You don't need piercing hit, changed it

Like you don't need it

[prime prawn]

what else do i put on it though

[opal leaf]

Change it to pure heat, pure gas or pure electric

All works in favor for Nataruk

[split mango]

Still uhhh lookin for a nice mesa build revolving around spamming her peace makers

[opal leaf]

Attack speed WITH arcane velocity

Go Cascadia Flare

Build for magnetic viral (or whatever, I use magnetic viral)

And voila

[split mango]

Should i use both galvanized mods?

[opal leaf]

You can

[split mango]

is it better to?

[opal leaf]

What Galvanized mods are you thinking?

[split mango]

both the pistol mods

for peacemaker

[opal leaf]

Let me search

[split mango]

Shot and Diffusion

[opal leaf]

Yes

[split mango]

This is what I got on rn, this work?

and if not, what should I swap out

[opal leaf]

Viral Heat huh....

[split mango]

cascadia flare goes up with heat

[opal leaf]

I knoe

Damn spelling

[split mango]

still, what should I change out?

as well as put on base mesa prime?

[opal leaf]

Accelerated Isotopes imo

It's not needed

And you might as well if you have velocity

Here is my mesa

[split mango]

got velocity equipped

[opal leaf]

Don't mind the aura hahaha

[opal leaf]

Then remove isotope and slot in shot

[lavish orbit]

What's the arcane

[split mango]

my broke ass doesnt have the forma required kek

[opal leaf]

Oh it's just the simple Arcane Aegis and Molt Augmented

I don't have that much for Mesa, I was just testing her

I don't really invest on Frames I really don't like

But when someone need help, I'll switch up and study for them

[split mango]

Cant get viral to show up sadly

[opal leaf]

Put frost bite on that empty slot and pistol pestilence swap on pistol gambit

The arrangement is important too

[split mango]

ayy

[opal leaf]

Got it?

[gray quarry]

Holy elements

[opal leaf]

Put the polarity in that empty slot...

[opal leaf]

Give him a break

[lavish orbit]

This is a way to maximize Mesa. Though, range is not necessary since it's a build that uses Muzzle Flash has survivability (And secondary fortifier).
Corrosive is used because there is Nourrish for the Viral damages.
I like to maximize stats with her but she doesn't need a tons of duration since you'll just push the 4th, use it then deactivate in a meter of seconds (just the time to delete everything)..

Like CRWD said, arrangement is important, Left to Right, Up to Down for elements combinaison

[gray quarry]

I can’t say anything, idk how I’d be building it

[split mango]

I do not understand

[versed harbor]

range on mesa is underrated tbh even just for her 4

[lavish orbit]

ye, it does change a lot when you play her with some range instead of basics dur + str

[tidal parrot]

elements are combined left to right top to bottom, so having heat before toxin and cold will result in something other than viral heat

[opal leaf]

In the action tab, you can press switch polarities and press the polarity with the red thingy and put it on the empty slot

[split mango]

ahhh

[static sphinx]

Is there any good Xoris build that doesn't require mods that are very hard to obtain? (I'm MR10)

[opal leaf]

You can probably get the mods

[tidal parrot]

they also want you to move the dash polarity to not reduce capacity, if you go to actions there should be a "swap polarity" option and you can move the dash polarity

[opal leaf]

I am at SP and got Galv mods at mr8

[static sphinx]

Galvanized mods are easy to get. I meant archon mods, primed mods, etc.

[tidal parrot]

time to forma 🥳

[opal leaf]

Here is the build

[lavish orbit]

You better need Arcane Influence for maximizing this one

[opal leaf]

Forma it brother hahahahah

[split mango]

my ass is broke

[tidal parrot]

you dont need shocking touch, it alrdy does force electric

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks

[lavish orbit]

where i'm gonna put that heirloom

[opal leaf]

Don't need plat

get it from the relic, some has it

[split mango]

true true

[opal leaf]

Z

..... Trust

[split mango]

I also need to farm materials to remove some archon shards from unused guys

[gray quarry]

I personally would go creeping bullseye instead of pistol gambit, to use the polarity and cause it’s more cc at the cost of fire rate

But that’s also if you have it

[split mango]

I do not have it

[opal leaf]

Farm or buy it

[tidal parrot]

you can actually add toxin to make it do corrosive elec and still proc melee influince

[opal leaf]

True

[split mango]

What archon shard should I be using on her?

[tidal parrot]

5 tau orange with hot shot to get red crits

[lavish orbit]

no

[tidal parrot]

yes

[lavish orbit]

no

[split mango]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[gray quarry]

I got you

[split mango]

actual saint

[gray quarry]

Send me an invite, ign is same as discord

[split mango]

i should be slotting strength right when I use red shards?

[pallid quiver]

might wanna get rid of transient fortitude for smth like narrow minded

[lavish orbit]

strength or critical for secondary

that would completely replace the amber ones so it doesn't cost a lot of resources

[split mango]

ight

Critical for secondary applies to her regulators?

[lavish orbit]

Yes

[tidal parrot]

yes

[pallid quiver]

oh and drop range

range is the one thing u can drop

[split mango]

no range at all?

[pallid quiver]

eff and dur and maybe energy max are way more important

[pallid quiver]

neg range even

most of str can be made up for with gun mods

just precision intensify is fine

[pallid quiver]

u kindda want eff to be at least neutral too

[split mango]

Keep in mind I didnt slot a uhhh whats it called, reactor for her yet

[pallid quiver]

yea ik

either ways range is not needed

[split mango]

this is for building the hell out of her 4 btw

[pallid quiver]

i know

her 4 does not need range

[lavish orbit]

Want to build a hell out of her 4th like a braindead that want to just explode everything ?

[opal leaf]

Oh yeah that's rigjt

Her 4 doesn't need range

[split mango]

Thats the goal

[opal leaf]

Remove streamline

Put flow

Focus on durstion for the rest of her builds

[frosty bone]

What suggestions do you guys have for a Nezha who doesn't want to get rid of his 1?

[lavish orbit]

I can give a goal, but it will need a sacrifice, you'll need to sacrifice a part of your logic, and be prepared for total chaos

[chrome badge]

nothing

current nezha builds have a subsume over 1 as optional

[split mango]

say less

[pallid quiver]

i wouldnt drop streamline

[opal leaf]

... Hmm... Youll be splitting your build to 3

So like Chilly said, nothing

His 1 sucks

[split mango]

Say less

[frosty bone]

They do? I haven't seen that. Most of the builds I've seen helminth over the 1 for like pyrotechnics and stuff.

[opal leaf]

Can I have the same for Frost + Torid?

[opal leaf]

Yeah

I have Omamori on his 1 hahahah

[lavish orbit]

Here, I give you this, I expect people to not see it unless they trust in Cthulhu

[chrome badge]

well yeah but as long as you have a weapon that can substitute that you're fine

i used Convectrix for a long time bc i didn't have pyrotech

[split mango]

what the hell is even that

[lavish orbit]

Ah euh, what do you want for Frost lmao

[opal leaf]

Believe me or not....... Pair it with Xoris hahahaha

[split mango]

ive been playing this game for eight years and I have no god damn clue what im staring at

[chrome badge]

EW METAXORIS 🤢

[opal leaf]

His biting frost to be biting the frost out of the enemies with my torid

[opal leaf]

No matter how you are disgusted.... It's still Xoris

[lavish orbit]

Encumber will make Impetus work, so you'll get 72% more strength AND some efficiency, everything is optimized for her 4th lmao

[split mango]

Hey by chance would you be interested in a sobek riven so I may fund this insanity

[frosty bone]

I know it's not a great ability but it pairs well with his passive+cunning drift. It also can provide some crowd control, and gives boosts to my allies who need a status cleanse.

[pallid quiver]

either dante's dark verse or pyro or sunder i believe

[chrome badge]

anyway i get 1-2k slash procs on Convectrix so nukeable

[opal leaf]

CC? Go 4 and 2

[lavish orbit]

I am also broke at the moment, but tell me after Voruna is out, maybe i'll help lmao

[split mango]

https://tenor.com/view/chopper-gif-26230616

[opal leaf]

His 1 literally... Doesn't do anything

[chrome badge]

incorrectt

[frosty bone]

I literally just gave you three things it does...

[chrome badge]

1 looks cool and is helpful to the team

[lavish orbit]

Do you prefer more freeze or more damage

[gray quarry]

Who

[opal leaf]

Oh I just don't see the use of 1

Thags all, it's my subjective opinion, sorry bout that, I shouldve told you guys

[chrome badge]

Nezha

[opal leaf]

Mezha

[chrome badge]

nws

[split mango]

So this is what we're now looking at

[chrome badge]

Mehzha

[opal leaf]

What does that even mean 😩

[split mango]

no worries son

[gray quarry]

Faster sprint, small ticks of heat, status cleanse for allies

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's Mehzha now

[chrome badge]

No WorrieS

[opal leaf]

Ah sorry

Hehehehe English is not my first language

[chrome badge]

• it looks cool 😎

[lavish orbit]

MeHzha's 1st is good to burst after he tp, that heat area can nuke with divine retribution

[pallid quiver]

yea thats a decent stat lineup

whats the gun build?

[chrome badge]

On Clem?

[opal leaf]

Guess we are calling him Mehzha now hahahah what have I started

[lavish orbit]

On Clem

[frosty bone]

I'll be honest I didn't even think about using the teleport into a group of divine speared enemies.

[split mango]

Gonna go do some steel path to farm for a secondary adapter

[pallid quiver]

instead of viral i would go corro heat

[opal leaf]

You don't need that much armor stripping hahahaha

[chrome badge]

i too would go corro heat

[split mango]

Hmm how

[pallid quiver]

on mesa u do

[pallid quiver]

swap frostbite for an elec

[frosty bone]

How many procs does the teleport create?

[opal leaf]

Corrosive magnetic maybe

[frosty bone]

I need to test this now ....

[pallid quiver]

nope no need mag

[lavish orbit]

Idk anymore, but I'm sure it was fun to use lol

[opal leaf]

Use 2nof his augments

His 4 Aug and 2 Aug.. It will charge a lot of heat maybe 40 to 50 heat stacks and maybe more of paired with Atomos (if you don't have Furis Incarnon) you would go hundreds and more

[split mango]

@pallid quiver that better?

[opal leaf]

Oh

[frosty bone]

I do have the Furis incarnon and the burston incarnon thankfully

[pallid quiver]

yea

[opal leaf]

Nice... Now go test that millions fo damage

I was able to get 50 mil damage consistently before hahahaha

[split mango]

Should I also slot hornet after I forma it?

[pallid quiver]

i forget what the to put in the last mod slot tho

already turned off my pc so

[lavish orbit]

@opal leaf frost it's almost a meme build but it's pretty good since you add damage vulnerability over armor reduction

[split mango]

augur pact?

[opal leaf]

Stolen

[graceful yoke]

Is the phantasma prime good enough for steel path?

[opal leaf]

Into my build bag

[pallid quiver]

i think either fire rate or uh crit damage

[opal leaf]

As what I've read, even Phantasma base is good for SP

[lavish orbit]

if you need more

[split mango]

ight

[opal leaf]

Reason why it... It's the same

[versed harbor]

ye rly good weapon

[lavish orbit]

Yes it's good, even better if you have something to fasten the recharge animation

[versed harbor]

so is base phantasma

[graceful yoke]

dang good luck i have some cached relics for the phantasma prime then lmao, thanks guys

[versed harbor]

its kinda heavy investment tho cuz status shotgun

[opal leaf]

God damn 3 corrupted mods

But what's funny is they don't really cancel out on each other hahahahahahaa

[versed harbor]

how come fleeting over equilibrium

[graceful yoke]

ye well I discovered that I have yet another area to farm (the 1999 thing) and I really feel like doing something else besides bounties so im down

[lavish orbit]

Yeah I wanted to get a build without a lot of restriction..

[opal leaf]

God damn

I don't have growing power tho

[lavish orbit]

Should work but I wanted to make it a bit crowd control, if you lower duration you make SW and freeze time fast

Better for Ice Storm and getting Overguard though

[versed harbor]

o why not transient over blind rage then

[frosty bone]

I'm gonna assume the teleport has the same chance of causing a heat proc as the flame trail itself does.

And it has a base 6 meter radius

Due to the weird glitch with divine spears and AOEs that's 75% chance per limb/torso/head

[opal leaf]

Explain

[lavish orbit]

Should also work, but that's more for me, because I make a lot of casting mistakes, a bit of duration is better for my no-brain cells

[sonic folio]

Range mesa big in 2026

[versed harbor]

lower duration means enemies stay frozen for a shorter time so they dont get stuck frozen in weird spots as often

[sonic folio]

Heat-corro is cherry on top haha

[opal leaf]

Ahhhh

[lavish orbit]

That's a build I didn't touch for 2 years, I like it that way lol

[rose cradle]

@split mango here's the build, not gonna be cruel

[split mango]

THANK YOu

[opal leaf]

Damn that Acolyte melted hahaha

[tidal parrot]

enervate and a crit chance mod 💀, heat and no hot shot but avenger

[lavish orbit]

Pistol Amp is bad at giving damage, arcane avenger will not be uptime everytime, what's the point of archon continuity there ?

[frosty bone]

Why would I use his 2 augment? The additional damage does not cause additional procs

[sonic folio]

All looks good except pistol amp those amp mods are fraud

[rose cradle]

Hildryn does it well too

[opal leaf]

Eh, split Chakram, able to spread faster and proc more twice

And with archon vitality too

[lavish orbit]

There is a lot of miss opportunity on that Mesa build though

[frosty bone]

The chakram already splits when you hit someone impaled on a spear.

[opal leaf]

DAMNNNNN

I can only do that with frost inside the globe hahahah

[rose cradle]

It works so I could care less but if you want to improve go ahead

[sonic folio]

He should have been put more range mods

[lean tendon]

Bro is playing with screen shake on 😭

[opal leaf]

Double

I jusg like it bc comfy and consistent damage

[opal leaf]

I do too, I love that feel

[rose cradle]

I leave mostly everything on default

[frosty bone]

The splitting isn't doubled.

Reaping chakram only increases damage and gives a 1/4 chance of making a second health orb.

[sonic folio]

Don't get hit by plums

[rose cradle]

Hit by what

[frosty bone]

Unless you're trying to say the heat procs will do double damage... Which they won't because of heat inheritance

[opal leaf]

Ah..........

Well energy

Idk I just like it hahahah

[lean tendon]

When I was new and tried Arbitrations I turned that sht off after meeting someone with the Tenet weapon that has way too many explosive effects and screen shake

Never turned it on since

[rose cradle]

I mostly play on TV so eh

[gray quarry]

I’ve killed it faster

[mighty flare]

lots of random decisions made here

[sonic folio]

Pistol amp

[gray quarry]

You’ve been hit by
You’ve been struck by
Truck

[rose cradle]

Poor bastard I didn't even get to shoot my gun

[opal leaf]

I can only melt it using my Frost... The moment that bish is in the sight of my avalanche, I go 4, 3 on that madafaka and spam Torid on it (incarnoff... Ya bish)

[gray quarry]

Get laetum

Mr14 gun

[opal leaf]

Next timeeeeee I hate the Evo on that, makes me lazyyyyyyyy

[gray quarry]

Also falcor

[rose cradle]

Have you perhaps tried the humble trumna prime? (No buffs here)

[gray quarry]

crit laetum tho

[opal leaf]

I haven't yet ;~;

[opal leaf]

I knooweeeewwwwwwww

I have Dual Tox so.... Next timeeeeeeeeee

[sonic folio]

Obamna prime alt fire

[tidal parrot]

either take off enervate, or take off all your crit chance stuff other than enervate tbh. enervate resets on orange crits so your likely not getting basically any benifit from it or you can use it to replace everything else giving crit to do the same thing

[split mango]

So is cascadia better than ennervate?

[lavish orbit]

Pistol Amp doesn't give a lot of damage, almost useless, and with arcane Avenger, better put Combat Discipline to get the critical bonus completely. But it's again useless since you use Enervate that will reset critical everytime with no scaling at all every 5 shots.
Primed Continuity over Archon cuse Archon is useless there. You can get over the yellow archon shard that give more efficiency with one that gives energy when you begin so you can get rid off Preparation and get more strength or other things (since you already use Nourrish I mean, it should be enough with Flow and Equilibrium).
Also, where is survivability in your build ?

[tidal parrot]

depends but more often than not people use other sources of crit chance for mesa regulators making ennervate not a good pick if you do build other sources of crit

[gray quarry]

Not better but they’re using alot of crit chance stuff and enervate, which all the crit chance stuff or enervate is fine alone but all the crit stuff cancels out enervate

[solemn kiln]

what should i take off to put archon continuity on?

[frosty bone]

Does warding halo cause slash procs or just slash damage?

[tidal parrot]

also arcane avenger is basically a worse hot shot for mesa

[split mango]

But mad cheap

[lavish orbit]

Amar's hatred I would say

[gray quarry]

Vitality

Or amars hatred

[lavish orbit]

Depend if you want str or health XD

[gleaming vapor]

its much easier to proc tho

[gray quarry]

Nah, plenty of atr

[tidal parrot]

true but requires you to get shot while hot shot requires you to shoot people

[split mango]

Arcane avenger is 1/10 the price of hot shot

[gleaming vapor]

fully proccing hotshot is really hard unless youre in endurance

[tidal parrot]

fully procing hot shot requires clicking 4 on mesa and shooting

[sonic folio]

You forgot to mention hotshot is 10x more expensive

[solemn kiln]

as long as i have enough health while im in her 4 im happy

[gray quarry]

Also you can run bellicose to get str for your 4 being active

[versed harbor]

proccing avenger is just slot combat discipline

[gleaming vapor]

in base sp there arent enough enemies to consistently maintain 50 stacks (especially with her 10% sc)

[solemn kiln]

which of oraxias abilitys should i get rid of for nourish her 2 or 3?

[gray quarry]

None, you don’t need nourish. Promise

[tidal parrot]

generally the 3 is the subsume slot

[lean tendon]

Just don't play Mesa ez fix no need to debate which arcanes or whatnot

[gleaming vapor]

dont even need that tbh, just get hit

[tidal parrot]

then if your playing base path then you dont need to have like 90% of a mesa build

[lavish orbit]

Hot shot stacks doesn't leave, Cascadia does

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/martinsugar2k-osu-5wc-russia-gif-8435695151844532640

[split mango]

Alright, so should I use lethal torrent or creeping bullseye?

[viscid bane]

Does falling distance have any impacton slam attack damage?

[gleaming vapor]

they got a 10 second duration, orange shards are the ones that dont leave

[split mango]

They dont?

[tidal parrot]

think it just increases aoe i think

[gleaming vapor]

they do

[lavish orbit]

Oh shoot sorry it's late I mismatched

[gray quarry]

Smh how dare you not remember that

[tidal parrot]

im 100% sure both hot shot and cascade can wear off, but realistically if your playing mesa in sp (where you would actually need a build) you do enough heat for them to never go away

[lavish orbit]

Cuse it's 2am and I closed waframe

[gray quarry]

Smh, well reopen warframe and keep grinding

[lavish orbit]

I can't I work in 4h lmao

[tidal parrot]

warframe is your new 9-5

[lavish orbit]

Gn all, have a good debate

[split mango]

https://tenor.com/view/gitapro3-gitagita-gitapro1-gitajah13-gif-3421945902795778238

[gleaming vapor]

ngl solocapping with mesa is kinda hard

wouldnt recommend it unless youre insane

luckily I am

[gleaming vapor]

im ngl to you bdawg, this build kinda sucks

[mighty flare]

You vaz spam and you’ll like it

https://giphy.com/gifs/apple-macintosh-v0ok8uhZvw3yE

[gleaming vapor]

oh trust me I know lol

[mighty flare]

I tried stuff like lazy gate but came back to vaz every time

Calls to me like the green goblin mask

[craggy niche]

talk aboiut by the skin of your teeth

[gleaming vapor]

nah lazy gate mesa kinda buns, ive tested it

[rose cradle]

Eh i'm fine with using it, it melts steel path still

[craggy niche]

3m to spare lmao

[gleaming vapor]

i mean if youre ok with it, then its fine

its got a good few dead slots tho

[eternal prism]

Try now sleepgate

[sonic folio]

One fart and it's over

[solemn kiln]

time to get my torid incarnon

[gleaming vapor]

thats why you vaz sling

[sonic folio]

So you're saying that you're either a smart fella or a fart smella

[gleaming vapor]

yep

[craggy niche]

yeah boi

[frosty bone]

torid vs burston?

[gleaming vapor]

burston better for st torid better for crowd clear

[craggy niche]

yukkkk

[gleaming vapor]

rhinos chill

[frosty bone]

wdym ST?

[gleaming vapor]

single target

[frosty bone]

ah

[sonic folio]

Torid also good for that too

[gleaming vapor]

not rly

its serviceable at base sp, past that it kinda sucks

[solemn kiln]

there is 4 i want from this rotation so ima buy the 2 i want the most and just run for the other 2

[sonic folio]

Larp

[frosty bone]

oh I should let it be known, I am planning to use one of the two in combination with nezha and furis

[frosty bone]

FYM?

[craggy niche]

ughhhh i hate closed loop emotes in servers

[eternal prism]

☠️

Secret heat stack tech

[craggy niche]

lmao i just realized i got ripped off with octavia

you need to do her quest anyway

♿

[frosty bone]

the only thing I was thinking is using the torid because I'm already doing a lot of heat for divine retribution

and toxin also does the collapsed proc thing with retribution

[gleaming vapor]

i mean nezha with furis already takes care of crowd clear

so burston prolly is your best bet here

[frosty bone]

I just need to finish evolving my furis

[frosty bone]

the furis 2nd evolution is ass for nezha tho ...

I either need overguard or to hit someone who's affected by shock. neither of which I can control as a nezha

[solemn kiln]

i can see why torid incarnon is op, now i really cant wait for the stug

[gleaming vapor]

if you have mag on the furis, then breaking og will cause an elec proc, which will affect that one on the furis

[frosty bone]

breaking the what?

[gleaming vapor]

overguard

[frosty bone]

so it would only be useful on eximus units?

[gleaming vapor]

yeah

but killing eximus faster is never a bad thing

[frosty bone]

is the incarnon form even affected by multishot?

[split mango]

yes

[frosty bone]

I guess 1.2 multishot against eximus and corpus isnt too bad, even if it is only for 2 seconds after breaking the shield

[split mango]

Think about it

2 seconds, but how many shots can you fire in that time?

[frosty bone]

rediculous amount but that's basically just for killing the one guy lol

[solemn kiln]

when it takes longer to reload then to empty the mag

[agile wagon]

Suspected scam content removed by bot.

[placid crown]

Want good mod configuration for my magister?

[frosty bone]

sooo the build I currently have worked out is:

• nezha with divine retribution, no helminth, and archon vitality
• burston prime incarnon with gilded truth
• furis incarnon with magnetic might
• melee??
• companion??

[frosty bone]

incarnon or no?

[chrome badge]

hmmmmm

nauty prime might be good with nezha for the grouping solely

[spiral verge]

I don't know if this is the exact right place to post this, I assume it is.
What would you guys do to make Excalibur work for Temporal Archimedia?
Not the elite version, just the normal.
I am absolutely getting screwed by the enemies and lack of energy. Thing is, if I build for energy economy I lose a ton of damage and am not able to kill fast enough to make a difference, and survivability is another problem entirely.
What would be the best way to go about this?
Specific weapons? Companions? better mods? Better use of mods?
I can handle around level 240 techrot in hellscrub missions, tested that multiple times, but I just feel like I hit a ceiling in both damage and survivability.

I have also tried multiple status effects. Blast+electric, full electric, electric+blast+magnetic, with very little difference

[frosty bone]

does strength affect the exalted blade?

[spiral verge]

Yep

[earnest saddle]

subsuming xata's whisper on the blast setup might help, it has some wonky interactions

[spiral verge]

I also have an Umbra I tried running archimedia with. Results basically the same even with the umbral mods, all 5 violet archon shards and 600 energy

My theory is that violet archon shard melee damage bonus stacks with multiple shards... is that correct?

Because in that case I should have about... 350% melee damage bonus on top of everything else

and it's still not enough

[spiral verge]

I'll try to do that.
If anything it might be fun and change things up for me.

[frosty bone]

Energy waves do not benefit from Chromatic Blade's status chance bonus or damage conversion.
Energy wave's damage does not scale off combo counter.

according to the wiki

[spiral verge]

Huh... that's weird

[earnest saddle]

it's melee crit damage

i'm also noticing that your exalted blade setup does not have any source of flat damage, i don't know if it's due to diminishing returns like with mesa's regulators?

[spiral verge]

I am getting 16M red crits sometimes when the wave hits an enemy

[frosty bone]

basically you need to ignore the waves, just use it in melee

[placid crown]

Incarnoon

[spiral verge]

Flat damage meaning like the faction bonuses? Or just something like presure point?

Yeah I built that for status only

[earnest saddle]

pressure point, yeah

if you're not using the sacrificial set, you might prefer condition overload

[frosty bone]

also you're not using umbra???

[split mango]

Use the waves to hit farther away, but yeah still focus on it

[spiral verge]

Is that any good with just one status effect? I thought they need to be multiple different types to benefit from it in any way

[solemn kiln]

does oraxias 1 count as a finish and a mercy

[earnest saddle]

you said you wanted to run xata's whisper and blast, so that's another two

[frosty bone]

why not build out umbra with his sacrificial set?

[lean tendon]

Normal Excal better

[frosty bone]

no it aint

[lean tendon]

Lol

[potent flint]

What's better for Nova, molt efficiency or arcane concentration?

[spiral verge]

I do have an umbra build.
This one
should be basically the same since it's copied over Except the umbral/sacrificial mods

[wild rune]

oh you sweet summer child

[frosty bone]

you ... formaed over the umbra polarities ...?

[wild rune]

please never break your umbral reverie, you'll never go back

[lean tendon]

Umbra has a shitty passive that you need to spend an exilus slot for just to remove it and replace with normal excal's passive + umbra polarities make it so that you either go triumbral setup or remove those polarities for better build path

Normal Excalibur is objectively better aside from Umbra having a better drip

[frosty bone]

umbral intensify with the other two mods are really good

[spiral verge]

Actually yeah.
I got fed up and just replaced most of them with omni since I like to experiment and don't wanna bother reFormating

[lean tendon]

Active gating is better especially with slash dash

[spiral verge]

That is true, Slash dash I found out is really good for saving my ass when i'm about to die. I don't use it often, but it's good

[frosty bone]

umbra has higher armor, higher energy, and higher starting energy ...

[lean tendon]

Triumbal setup is good but active gating opens up more slots. But you can just use normal excalibur and leave umbra anyways. No need to use a shitty exilus augment and you don't need to remove umbra polarities

[lean tendon]

????

[placid crown]

Where is the build ?

[frosty bone]

sorry I got distracted by the excalibur

[placid crown]

Np

[wild rune]

Starting energy isn't a stat, it's determined by the amount of leftover mod capacity in your build

I don't remember the formula exactly, someone else can check real quick

[lean tendon]

The increased base stats doesn't help him at all

Compared to the number of things you need to fix

[wild rune]

I want to say it's 50 + (remaining capacity * 5)?

[frosty bone]

a slam build works really well. https://overframe.gg/build/668910/magistar/slamistar-x-5-combo-slam-spam-magistar-tox-corro-variants/
this is the one guy on overframe who knows what he's doing

[lean tendon]

But then again, you can always just use normal excal and leave umbra alone unless you really prefer Umbra's drip

[hexed lodge]

"a warframe's assigned starting energy (it varies)" + "5 * Leftover mod capacity"

[frosty bone]

and umbra's starting energy is 100

[wild rune]

oh it is actually a stat, I never paid attention because it never seemed to matter

[spiral verge]

The drip always wins
But yeah. Normal excal is something i changed gears to recently

[hexed lodge]

it's understandable, usually doesn't

[wild rune]

go my blue shard, fix my energy problems

[frosty bone]

umbra's energy problems can be fixed with the umbral mods + arcane battery

[spiral verge]

I'm gonna just ask another way.
How difficult is it to actually build something that can handle that sorta enemy level?
Because I am 80% sure I am just missing something or building badly

What frames do you guys use for archimedia?

[frosty bone]

I main nezha

[lean tendon]

Hildryn is a no brainer. Almost every risk variables doesn't affect her.

[wild rune]

If all modifiers are good for me to keep, I will wildcard to Jade in EDA just because 90% of people have a skill issue and she has a risk free revive even if transference is blocked

[spiral verge]

I am hoping that excal is even capable of dealing with archimedia at all and I'm not barking up the wrong tree XD

[wild rune]

otherwise dumb stuff like reduced energy capacity gets turned right off

[spiral verge]

I saw a 1 billion damage excal with furious jav, but that is WAAAAY out of my league

[frosty bone]

it probalby can but you might just need to use his (essentially) prime form instead of normal ...

[wild rune]

any frame can do Elite Archimedea, it comes down to how well you can play them

[hexed lodge]

Couldn't you build another Excal Umbra to get those umbra polarities again?

[wild rune]

Nidus and Atlas have the most problems IMO as their power is usually best kept solo

[lean tendon]

Go active gating with Excalibur, maybe Arcane Circumvent for even more survivability

[frosty bone]

no

[lean tendon]

You can't

[wild rune]

I don't think he's available at Simaris

[lean tendon]

Umbra dupes only come from the old account merges

[spiral verge]

Is operator something to rely on there?
Cause I do not do that often. Though with the shadowgrapher update, I am getting more comfortable with switching them

[wild rune]

Vazarin Operators are incredibly reliable survival methods

[frosty bone]

I would expect last gasp to be required

[hexed lodge]

wait really? fk me for being optimistic 💀

[lean tendon]

Operator is good at Archimedea, especially if it's well built

[spiral verge]

Ok.
That might be it. I never used Vazarin at all.
I use Naramon and Madurai

[wild rune]

I've always been a Madurai guy myself tbh

[lean tendon]

Building a heavy archgun is also recommended. It helps when you get bad rolls on the weapon loadouts. But there is a risk variable that disables gear so there are weeks where you can't abuse heavy archguns.

[wild rune]

Prisma Dual Decurion my beloved

[frosty bone]

I would at least get all your way bounds filled in

[lean tendon]

Anyways, try using active gating setup on your Excalibur first. If you have Arcane Circumvent then also add that or Rolling Guard for extra survivability.

[frosty bone]

and a good 547 amp with an artifact for modding yourself

[spiral verge]

I guess temporal archimedia is where I finally will have to stop with the "Press 4 and make sword go brrrr" strat

inhale

ANGY EXCAL NOISES

[solemn kiln]

no it sounds like you need to find a way to make your sword do more damage

should try the new tennokai mod

[spiral verge]

I tried it. But the flame damage is a bit of a pickle on that

[tidal parrot]

gear embargo in this eta

[spiral verge]

Granted, I tried like 2 steel soul hellscrub runs

[solemn kiln]

you do know you can put all the tennokai on your main melee and they apply to your exalted melee

[lean tendon]

Gear disabled this week?

I haven't logged in yet

[spiral verge]

Do they?
I thought they changed that recently or something

[lean tendon]

rip

[solemn kiln]

did they?

[tidal parrot]

eta was fun, lowk wasnt as bad as it sounds since thermian rpgs just hit for so much damage tank fight is easy

[spiral verge]

I don't know

[tidal parrot]

as long as you have the damage to kill the guys who spawn with the rpgs

[lean tendon]

Brief Respite + Catalyzing Shields and then maybe rolling guard or arcane circumvent for anti toxin

[tidal parrot]

or vazarin

[lean tendon]

Then exalted just go for the braindead influence

[frosty bone]

you can you just need to build everything around it to better suit your play.

• fill in your waybounds for last gasp
• use umbral mods for + 77% strength
• use a companion with that one set that gives infinite energy
• actually use your sword in melee instead of relying on waves
• use your operator abilities to supplement melee damage (like lethal levitation)

[potent flint]

Hey there whats better for Nova, molt efficiency or arcane concentration?

[lean tendon]

I use Arcane Concentration personally

[ember condor]

What's a good primary for big damage on a single target?

Looking for something that can nuke Demolysts.

[spiral chasm]

incarnoff latron with double tap is pretty good

[frosty bone]

by the way umbra's passive isn't that good but neither is excal's normal passive
a 10% attack speed and damage boost that is additive to fury and pressure point. whoopty doo.

[spiral chasm]

ofc theres still kuva hek which has tons of MS

[lean tendon]

Still better than umbra

And modding is smoother because you don't feel bad about the umbra formas + you're not stuck using an exilus mod to remove the umbra passive

[ember condor]

How does Double Tap stack with other damage mods?

[spiral chasm]

its a final dmg multiplier

[ember condor]

Oh my.

[spiral chasm]

its pretty fun

but missing a shot resets ur stacks

its hard to use for fodder clearing

so just mod for upfront dmg

[lean tendon]

But then again for the third time in a row, you can just modify normal excal instead of umbra unless you really want that drip. And if you do want to run triumbal setup on Umbra, you want to get external source of survivability

[frosty bone]

don't use the exilus. it's not that great, and unnecessary if you only use operator for last gasp.
and just take advantage of the umbra mods. they give you stupid amounts of strength health and armor. use arcane battery and arcane persistence.

[nimble storm]

Do i roll this

[frosty bone]

arcane persistance only requires 700 armor and umbra can get 882 with just the triumbral setup

heck you only need 2 of the mods if i wanna be extra pedantic

[ember condor]

Well, time to test run the kitbash build I have on my Latron, and this Riven I apparently have.

[wary lake]

how do i build my follie?

[tidal parrot]

foundry

[frosty bone]

from what I've heard anything goes

[static sphinx]

What are the best stats for bubonico riven?

[hushed harbor]

i need a funny gimmicky mesa build that works in lvl cap

[frosty bone]

based on the warframe market listing this at 12000 plat ... crit chance, crit damage, multishot

[ember condor]

Maximum funny.

[hushed harbor]

what about regulators

and what guns

[solemn kiln]

any gun with hot shot and flare

[ember condor]

Best I can do is 5 Topaz Shards.

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks

[frosty bone]

... mod for fire procs

[solemn kiln]

wait i wanna try this with dante and use fire on his book

[hushed harbor]

no shit i’m concerned about the rest of the build, i have a general idea but i’m not sure if i should be doing Viral Heat or what, not sure whether to run CO or not

[tidal parrot]

this is what alleca frame says not 100% on the elec tho especially with coda

[mighty flare]

180-200% ability strength with positive range/duration, how you wanna survive is up to you
if want more help: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1487164102379049051

[tidal parrot]

equilibrium is also super good on her

[solemn kiln]

might as well go all in with fire altough use the viral/fire build for verglas and dirgha

[hushed harbor]

makes sense

[lean tendon]

You still need more armor or some form of anti magnetic/heat so your persistence don't get activated. That means more setup is required. Active gating it's just 3 items needed at most.

But I will say this for the 4th time, you can just go use normal excal and not umbra unless you want to main only umbra version.

[opal leaf]

Sombra made an another one for Follie? Wonder what... He or she has about to say on this frame

[frosty bone]

and for the 5th time I'm saying that I don't understand why normal excal is considered better when both passives suck and umbra has better stats

[lean tendon]

Easier modding + objectively better passive which I said multiple times already

[tidal parrot]

this is what i came up with, with a little bit of help on the subsume and precision intensify slots which i think is really funny but other ppl might have stuff they prefer

smthn i was thinking about was like molt aug instead of aegis

[opal leaf]

Huh nice, gotta steal these

[tidal parrot]

you just spam barrels and arc traps, keep 3 up for infinte orbs, and use roar to 1 shot with the barrels and kill enemies in a few seconds with arc traps then use 1 to cleans statuses

[opal leaf]

Noted

[frosty bone]

and I've said just as many times that the "objectively better" passive barely registers when you actually build out your weapons and the modding is harder on normal excal because of worse starting stats

[lean tendon]

What...

The passive might be minimal but it's still better than Umbra's passive, hence it is "objectively better". Modding on Normal Excalibur is way better because you're not stuck with 3 umbra polarities.

You have way more flexibility than triumbal setups.

[frosty bone]

normal excal has 75% of umbra's armor, 66% of umbra's energy, a worse exalted blade, a worse 2, and worse polarities

[opal leaf]

Just a random thought

Persistence Umbra?

Aight just have to drop that in the moment you said 3 Umbra polarities

[lean tendon]

It works and it's a viable build

[frosty bone]

I mentioned that earlier and they tossed it out without giving me any credit...

[tidal parrot]

astraye alrdy mentioned that cc

[opal leaf]

Ohhhhh

[lean tendon]

But that requires more setup than putting Brief Respite + Catalyzing Shields and possibly Rolling Guard/Arcane Circumvent just to remove Toxin

[tidal parrot]

personally id just say run persistence with rolling guard / vazarin and its fine but just my opinion

[opal leaf]

Nah I won't run Excal Umbra bc I don't like the frame

But it's just good to know

I'm sticking to my name

[tidal parrot]

think my excal umbra is just some slash dash Wrathful advance spam build that theoretically works but im to bad at excal to play it to what it probably can do

[frosty bone]

umbra is better, you just don't know how to health tank astraye

[opal leaf]

Same hahahha

[violet silo]

how do you heal consistently in a persistence build

[opal leaf]

Psh idk, I would switch it for Omamori as always

[lean tendon]

Gloom is a no brainer

[opal leaf]

But again, it's just a random thought I dropped the moment Astraye said 3 Umbra polarities

[violet silo]

omamori doesnt heal either

[opal leaf]

It does, sometimes

[violet silo]

gloom would work yeah

[mighty flare]

life strike

[tidal parrot]

Vazarin

[lean tendon]

Magus Elevate if you're feeling brave

[opal leaf]

I mean if we are talking about healing, then Gloom, but Omamori can heal too

It can heal, give a bit of armor and give a bit of stuff

[frosty bone]

considering excal is a melee frame you'd wanna use naramon

[opal leaf]

Well I'll leave Umbra there at the side and rest... He's been through a lot, I won't put him in battlefield again

[tidal parrot]

Omamori is ideal if you have enough hp to eat up to like 6-9 shots so you can have 3 seconds of getting hit for its cd and then another like 2-3 to ensure you don't get unlucky plus you probably need a bunch of strength as well

Atleast that's my reasoning for why I can get away with it on chroma

[opal leaf]

Yes sir

[tidal parrot]

Not sure on how much strength is being built on excal off the top my head + how much hp he's getting up to

[lean tendon]

Anyways, you need more setup to make it more comfortable than just using active shield gating. You need Persistence+Triumbral+Gloom or some sort of healing+you need to be mindful of heat/magnetic+you probably need Arcane Blessing as well to have more hp.

[frosty bone]

also ... apparently we've been arguing over something you were wrong about. umbra also has the sword passive, he just also has the sentience passive

[opal leaf]

Eh I don't really care on Umbra now aside he rans around my orbiter and play the Shawzin and sleep

I'm loving Frost now

[warm obsidian]

Anyone got Mesa builds

[lean tendon]

He doesn't have the sword passive

[opal leaf]

Boom!

Don't mind the aura....

I.... I need to change that

[frosty bone]

then the wiki is wrong again "Umbra exhibits sentience in combat without Transference control. Attacks 10% faster and deals 10% more damage while wielding swords."

[warm obsidian]

Arcane and Exalted?

[opal leaf]

Oh wait... Let me get Mt exalted

[wild rune]

Swordsmanship tab

[frosty bone]

look at his passive in game

[scarlet forum]

Hello

[warm obsidian]

Yo

[scarlet forum]

Anyone know anything about Gara

[scarlet forum]

I'm having a little bit of a dilemma because I want to use naramon but I don't want to go through that annoying pratea grind

[opal leaf]

Can't get it... My internet sucks ass so bad that I am having 110 byte PER FCKING SECONDS.... FAHHH

[lean tendon]

I completely forgot about the biggest reason his passive sucks, it's because of the way he acts. Legit a liability that's why you run Warrior's Rest.

[frosty bone]

yeah but like ... just don't use operator mode.

[lean tendon]

Survival instincts of a rock

[lean tendon]

But operator is meta

You get so much from it

[frosty bone]

you jump out for 2 seconds to cast an ability and then go back

[opal leaf]

That's why I never believe in "meta" in this game

My mind is clear of that hahaha

[frosty bone]

he can survive 2 seconds

[scarlet forum]

So atlas

[warm obsidian]

Nah

[solemn kiln]

red str shards or blue health shards to put on oraxia?

[lean tendon]

Not that kind of rock

[scarlet forum]

~~do I have to switch schools to play gara and atlas ~~

[opal leaf]

Depends

[scarlet forum]

I don't want to do it again don't make me do pratea

😭

[warm obsidian]

What does Naramom do again

[opal leaf]

Up to you

I switch schools when I need too

But my general is unairu

[scarlet forum]

I'm using zenerik

And Maduri

[frosty bone]

if you're playing excal you're using naramon. the most you do as operator is levitate some people, sling through them, and do some damage for the lethal levitation bonus, do a finisher

[scarlet forum]

[scarlet forum]

Your melee counter doesn't degrade that fast

[static sphinx]

Is there any good Follie build, or not yet?

[lean tendon]

Naramon isn't even that good

[scarlet forum]

Cap

[opal leaf]

Like if I do Cascade, I'm using madurai

If I do general, Unairu

[warm obsidian]

I have a questionable one :v

[scarlet forum]

~~i don't switch for different missions bro ~~

[solemn kiln]

i have some folie builds ive used against level cap .-.

[opal leaf]

Your problem I guess... Up to you

[scarlet forum]

I play sevagoth I hit 3 buttons and any level enemy dies in one hit

😭

I think I need to play something little less easy

[opal leaf]

Yeah that boring frame, I was glad I accidentally deleted that frame

[lean tendon]

Unairu is your best bet for Umbra because of you're stuck with Warrior's Rest exilus

[solemn kiln]

is umbra being sentient that bad?

[scarlet forum]

What does that even do again

[frosty bone]

combo cound + free backstabs + 200% damage + 50% crit chance

[scarlet forum]

Unari

[lean tendon]

And you can stat stick Primary Dexterity and Secondary Dexterity

[static sphinx]

Better than nothing I guess

[scarlet forum]

And the other one I forget

[opal leaf]

Tbh

I never liked Nuke frames now because..... It never controls the crowd, it clears the crowd

I want to control it, turn the tides...

[opal leaf]

Smth smth armor, health and knockback

[mighty flare]

👍

[scarlet forum]

I mean If y'all are saying I don't have to switch

[lean tendon]

It's only good for semi-afk strats. You want it removed 99% of the time because it has a survival instincts of a rock (not Atlas kind of rock).

[scarlet forum]

Then I'm not grinding it lol

[wary lake]

does roar work on follies arc trap?

[static sphinx]

Archon and primed as I expected. I guess I can replace them with normal ones.

[opal leaf]

Again it's up to you

No one is forcing you... I don't even have Zenurik hahahahaha

[frosty bone]

it's really not that bad. espcially if you lean into health tanking with him

[solemn kiln]

so the survival instincts of a kid in the "it" movie

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks

[static sphinx]

Ok thanks

[wary lake]

what helminth abilities are good on follie?

[scarlet forum]

I like zenerik so I can max my engert and just spam

That plus dethcubs

[warm obsidian]

Making her Thicc

[mighty flare]

roar, grouping, breach surge, armor strip (her 4 is bad), etc

[opal leaf]

Yeah but I never had problem with it tbh hahaha

[scarlet forum]

I'm just doing it for memes at this point but it helps for other frames

That need to spam

[warm obsidian]

To be fair Follie's 4 already has Armor strip

[mighty flare]

its bad

[scarlet forum]

I just want that mele counter thing

[static sphinx]

So, is it focused around range/efficiency?

[lean tendon]

Unairu way better with the free PSF + armor. You can just stat stick Primary Dexterity and Secondary Dexterity.

Damage is never a problem with Excal

[solemn kiln]

i like her 4 its amusing xD

[mighty flare]

sure, follie doesn't scale off strength well enough to use mods like blind rage

[warm obsidian]

Summons scales with enemy level

Damage res from 3 scales with Range and Strength

[solemn kiln]

you only need like 170 ish str to get the dr to max for her 3

[static sphinx]

And catalyzing shields is because Follie has bad base survivability stats?

[warm obsidian]

200 iirc

[mighty flare]

no its just a flexible slot, nonimportant
could swap for ehp mods like adaptation

[frosty bone]

I'd rather play in a way that actually makes sense for a space ninja. not quickly swapping between weapons and rolling every 5 seconds.

[opal leaf]

I thought it's enemy health

That's been the fight in anywhere Ive seen

But the majorities are Health scaled

[mighty flare]

you dont really need to mod for extra survivability on follie

[solemn kiln]

fam if you are standing in her 3 she has at max 90% dr before it goes into personal frame stats

[warm obsidian]

Follie already as a built in rolling guard with no cooldown

[mighty flare]

incorrect (sorta), they scale off health, which increases with level

[warm obsidian]

Yeah mb

[mighty flare]

not a direct scaling like xaku

[lean tendon]

What? You don't need to swap weapons for Primary Dexterity and Secondary Dexterity to work. Heck you can just put it on your Heavy Archgun.

[frosty bone]

why use those tho? they just boost the damage of the weapon, not your melee

[opal leaf]

Been thinking thag in Vauban

How does Vauban scales tho? All I know is levels but what kind? If that make sense

[lean tendon]

And the Unairu armor is just passive + Poise is just quick switch you don't need to stay in operator.

Tauron Strike armor is a bonus but you don't need it as much

[frosty bone]

you only need to be in operator for a few seconds as naramon

[lean tendon]

Same with Unairu

[mighty flare]

Both Photon Strike and Flechettes have direct scaling with enemy level, like dmg x level

[frosty bone]

lift, glaive, sling, finisher

that's it

[lean tendon]

But you solve survivability issues which is the biggest problem of excal

[frosty bone]

health tanking with persistance

[lean tendon]

Damage is never a problem and you are perma exalted so idk why you're saying you need to switch weapons

[opal leaf]

Hmmm aight thanks

Still following the "by 10s" scaling right? Like in fletchet

"scaling enemies by every 10 levels"

[warm obsidian]

Photon also has an extra multiplier for overguard

Aka Eximus nuker

[lean tendon]

Yeah I'm talking about Persistence Umbra. Unairu is way better for that build. Free 200 armor + poise.

[frosty bone]

because primary/secondary dextarity don't do anything for your melee other than increased combo duration. which isn't a problem in naramon

[opal leaf]

Eximus have overguard, not overshield

[mighty flare]

you mean overguard?

[warm obsidian]

Keep mixing up terms

[lean tendon]

And if you use Tauron Strike you get more armor. You want more armor as much as possible so Heat cannot deactivate your Persistence and Poise is free PSF.

[lean tendon]

That's all you need

The damage is negligible

Your million damage will still kill, unless you're a damage junkie who wants to reach damage cap

[frosty bone]

you dont even need the PSF naramon allows for finishers even if they have overguard. just kill the guy who's making explosions

[mighty flare]

yea

[scarlet forum]

Anyone have a gaura build

[lean tendon]

You want to solve the survivability issue and if you're going Persistence route, you want 1400+ armor and anti magnetic

And since it's Umbra, you also want Poise

[scarlet forum]

or any other nuke frames

[frosty bone]

divine retribution nezha + pyrotechnics

[scarlet forum]

I don't have neza yet

[warm obsidian]

I should really update my Gauss build

And actually invest on Formas

[solemn kiln]

any suggestions for my nukor?

[frosty bone]

you said any nuke frame, and nezha is at your clan dojo

[scarlet forum]

She's been fed to the mouth hole

😭

[frosty bone]

he

[lean tendon]

This is why excal is better modding wise. You're more flexible than Umbra.

[scarlet forum]

He?

[warm obsidian]

Femboy

[frosty bone]

nezha is a guy

[warm obsidian]

Same with Yareli

[scarlet forum]

I thought it was like a ballerina with pig tails

[scarlet forum]

No bro

[warm obsidian]

Yes

[frosty bone]

yareli is a girl don't mess with bahamut

[scarlet forum]

She's a girl I thought

😭

[tidal parrot]

drop creeping bulsey for smthn like either elementalist or punchthrough, and put secondary enervate in arcane slot

[warm obsidian]

I do be trolling

[scarlet forum]

I still need to make her look like mizutune

https://tenor.com/view/mizutsune-monster-hunter-mh-mhr-mhgu-gif-2599985840509001905

Femboy bubble fox

[warm obsidian]

You have her prime I assume

[scarlet forum]

Yea

[solemn kiln]

sadly my secondary enervate is at lvl 3

[scarlet forum]

I need a good rainbow ephemera tho

[frosty bone]

but to be clear nezha is based on the chinese fire god nezha

[tidal parrot]

thats fine, kuva nukor has like 7 cc so +200% puts you at 21%

enervate goes untill you hit orange crits

[warm obsidian]

Shop sells one for .99$

[lean tendon]

Nezha is femboy and nezha players are also all femboys

-not my words

[scarlet forum]

What's it called

[tidal parrot]

Nezha is femboy and nezha players are also all femboys

-Astraye-SEA

[frosty bone]

hey I admit it

[elfin marsh]

hii everyone, do ya'll know if the violet archon shards works if your energy is exactly 500? the trait where it doubles melee crit damage when it's over 500 energy

[scarlet forum]

I saw someone And all of their energy was rainbow it was changing color

[scarlet forum]

I have no idea what they had

[tidal parrot]

at or above 500

[lean tendon]

Proof that it's not my words

[frosty bone]

the warframe version is

[elfin marsh]

rn my energy is exactly 500

[lean tendon]

You need 501+ iirc

[frosty bone]

the chinese god is just really young. like 12

[elfin marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-table-green-alien-cat-angry-gif-15749651503962641516

[tidal parrot]

equip a melee and if it has increased cd then it applies otherswise you need more

[scarlet forum]

Do violet archon shards not work or something?

[tidal parrot]

if you have arcane battery or some other way to increase your energy and you dont have the required amount to satisfy them before the mission then they wont work at all even if you do hit the requirment during the mission

[lean tendon]

Yeah I remembered it right

[warm obsidian]

Looks a lot better on any platforms apart from mobile

[elfin marsh]

i must have missed it on the wiki, thanks for answering

[tidal parrot]

ah mb then, thought they would trigger at 500 energy :/

[lean tendon]

Unlucky though, which warframe is it that has 500 exact energy with Primed Flow? Or is it just Flow?

[elfin marsh]

now i'm mad cause i need primed flow

[lean tendon]

Oh just flow rip

[scarlet forum]

I don't know how to explain like it was a dagoth and her energy was completely rainbow

Like It was changing colors

[elfin marsh]

i can buy it rn but i'm investing in torid incarnon

[solemn kiln]

oh thanks off to do eto x.x

[wary forge]

crit on the nukor

[tidal parrot]

citrine subsume?

[scarlet forum]

Maybe

No she was standing in relay

Like you know how you can change the color of your energy and it's one singular color it was multicolor and it was moving

Like an RGB keyboard

[tidal parrot]

probably an emphamera or sigil

[scarlet forum]

I will never find this thing

[scarlet forum]

I think it might be the citrine animation set but I don't know

I think

I have to inspect people from now on till I find it

[warm obsidian]

Keep in mind mobile effects are downgraded

[tall lion]

Anyone have a Sepulcrum build for SP?

[scarlet forum]

Oh quick question Is there any point of having a melee weapon on a melee frame like gara

Because she doesn't use melee weapons she uses herself

Because I want to put Silva and aegis prime on her for looks

[tidal parrot]

shatered lash is an exalted so you could use a melee if you really wanted without any harm

like not really a reason not to run one on her

even if you dont end up actually using it you atleast have it

[warm obsidian]

Unless it's Praedos

[scarlet forum]

I mean pradeos incarnons for the speed

Gara screams sword and shield user I just want to put one on

[lean tendon]

Yeah just use stat stick weapons

[tidal parrot]

id argue thats still running a melee on her. which again, not really a reason not to

[scarlet forum]

I don't know what that means

[warm obsidian]

Arcane that increases Combo duration

[scarlet forum]

Wait I could just put that on a weapon and it will work with her other melee

[tidal parrot]

just hit stuff and refresh your combo

ez

[warm obsidian]

I have Venka Prime on Valkyr just for the aesthetics :v

[scarlet forum]

I thought I'm putting influence on gara

[warm obsidian]

The humble Arbitration drone

[lean tendon]

Weapons that give passive stats even without using them

[tall lion]

I don't know why but I love having Nami Solo or Skyla with Garuda Prime. It fits her somewhat.

[scarlet forum]

Hmm

[tidal parrot]

just hit them extra hard

[scarlet forum]

I know of pradeos I know nothing else

[warm obsidian]

They're immune to everything that's not weapon damage

That includes Exalted

[tidal parrot]

yea, just hit them super extra hard

[scarlet forum]

The arbitration drone stole my father

😭

[tidal parrot]

beat them like their trying to take your first born

[lean tendon]

In primary: amalgam serration and primary dexterity

In secondary: amalgam barrel diffusion and secondary dexterity

In melee: Okina Incarnon or Praedos Incarnon

In Heavy Archgun: Go for both dexterity arcanes

If you want to, you can also use Grimoire for strength snapshotting as well

[warm obsidian]

Used slide attack on Arbitration drone with Hysteria on

No damage dealt but was gaining Combo counters

[tidal parrot]

think you just need to hit them harder idk

hit them so hard you break the code

[scarlet forum]

You're telling me that just having those things in my inventory gives me stats

Like just equipped on my weapons without me using them

[warm obsidian]

Archgun needs maxed Fortuna iirc

[lean tendon]

Yeah just having them equipped gives you perma stats

[wary forge]

phantasma with the enrgy regen arcane

[scarlet forum]

Oh

[wary forge]

very good primer/util

[scarlet forum]

Can I use Silva and agis for the drip tho

[lean tendon]

Amalgam Serration is 25% sprint speed, Amalgam Barrel Diffusion is 60% dodge speed, Praedos is a bunch of parkour velocity and Okina is movement speed

You can also run utility weapons like scyotid for grouping, grimoire for tome mod effects, paris prime incarnon for companion stat stick, Rauta for fast x12 combo, etc.

[scarlet forum]

I don't dodge

[lean tendon]

I use it for movement ngl

[scarlet forum]

Mhh the grouping one sounds nice tbh

[scarlet forum]

The way that my controls are set up it's a pain in the ass to dodge trying just never do it

I tried mapping it to different keys but none of them felt comfortable

[warm obsidian]

This a good Grimoire build

[scarlet forum]

I don't have amalgam mods

😭

[warm obsidian]

To be fair it's only of the extra stats

Diffusion gives 60% dodge speed

[scarlet forum]

Is there anything I could put on these stat sticks that would improve weapon combos

So I don't have to run naramon

[warm obsidian]

Dexterity

[wary forge]

wwdym

like 4 ur melee

[scarlet forum]

I guess

[warm obsidian]

On Melee Kill/Passive:
+60% Damage for 20s. Stacks up to 6x.
+7.5s Combo Duration

[wary forge]

tandem bond

[scarlet forum]

Ok that's peak then

Can I run secondary dexterity and primary dexterity and they stack

Because that would be peak

[wary forge]

yes

u can put them on ur arch gun

[scarlet forum]

Do they stack again

[wary forge]

and have them

[novel bear]

Yes

[wary forge]

the entire mission

[novel bear]

4x dexterity is a thing

[scarlet forum]

Holy

Well I guess I don't need to switch classes

[warm obsidian]

Cascadia Flare somehow proccing on Primary gun

[scarlet forum]

Yea so I'm going to be very excited in 3 days for gara

😭

Do I subsume anything on to them

[warm obsidian]

Subsume Gara herself

[scarlet forum]

I'm asking a general question

I don't know her abilities yet If there's any weak links

[warm obsidian]

Sorry couldn't help myself

[scarlet forum]

How about I subsume you

Feed you to the mouth hole

[naive loom]

Does syam with voruna better than kullervo? I wanted to get kullervo but the game keep preventing me from getting him so I need to know does voruna can pair with syam

[granite ginkgo]

you want to subsume all non-prime warframe, at very least ur helminth got most "meta" subsume skill available

[scarlet forum]

No I meant

[granite ginkgo]

worst case scenario it can subtitue w/o need of archon shard

[scarlet forum]

Like do I put any subsume ability on gara

[sinful mural]

Here is my caliban build (before forma cause I had to add it but now everything is on the build)

That mod that’s hovering is blind rage

[granite ginkgo]

gara main issues is energy, the rest of her skill is fine as is

[scarlet forum]

Zenerik dethcube purple archon shard?

Will that suffice

[granite ginkgo]

yes

u can use naramon for her exalted tho, for extra dps value

[fair mural]

whats the best gun to run for profit taker? + archgun my mausolon deals decent damage but not fast

[remote orchid]

Is this build ok for torid incarnon?

[gray quarry]

Looks fine

[remote orchid]

Is viral good or should i go corrosive heat?

[gray quarry]

Viral

Especially with hunter munitions

[remote orchid]

Ok ty

[hollow scarab]

is the amanata the best non-infested polearm still and does anyone have a build i can steal for it for late SP?

[charred gale]

Take off galvanized aptitude

[charred gale]

Viral heat better

[ember condor]

How does one make a Zephyr build?

[remote orchid]

What do i replace it with

[charred gale]

Heard corrosive blast is rly good on it

So u could do that

[tall lion]

Is Sepulcrum worth building? It looks cool but idk if I'm gonna invest in the mods for it.

[violet silo]

take off hunter munitions and replace it with high voltage or stormbringer, then take off elementalist for hellfire or thermite roundss

[violet silo]

in this case, just pure damage

serration

[scarlet forum]

I heard atlas got buffed is that true

Or was that a while ago

[old marsh]

Every exalted/pseudo exalted got the buff coz of mod restriction removal and arcanes

[scarlet forum]

Oh so that was a while ago someone said he got buffed recently

[random prawn]

Ik this doesn't belong here but is this a good riven mod?

[queen sandal]

an okay warframe i wont be grinding for her since i have sevagoth but seems very fun

[unborn summit]

are warframe builds okay here because I want to share what I'm building

[opal leaf]

Fair

[queen sandal]

:DD

[queen sandal]

yes thats the point , go ahead ❤️