builds-discussion

[opal leaf]

Yeah this is why I don't rank frames.. Bc our experiences is different

[novel bear]

I don’t think you understand how qorvex works

[wary forge]

He can platform primary bullwark that’s it

[opal leaf]

You cannot just enforce something/someone is bad just bc it doesn't work on you

Just saying

I've been there

[wary forge]

Send me a clip of you killing a thrax at cap then

[novel bear]

I didn’t say it kills thraxes

Not without other enemies around at least

But it can absolutely kill at cap

Unless you have a skill issue

[wary forge]

That doesn’t matter

Any gun can trash clear at cap

[novel bear]

Qorvex does it better than most guns

Again, you have a skill issue

[wary forge]

He doesn’t do it better then xoris and falcor

Or magistar

[opal leaf]

FAHHH

[wary forge]

Or like 90% of the weapons used at cap

[novel bear]

Alright, you’re just a moron

[wary forge]

Sure

[opal leaf]

Don't waste your typing skill on him bro

[oak wigeon]

anyong have a good build for protea? just finished building her prime and found her kit kinda fun

This is what I kinda just threw together

[wary forge]

You want duration

Cause her turrets scale off duration and strength

That’s not bad tho

Don’t run her augments

They are just not worth

[oak wigeon]

do i care about range AT all?

[wary forge]

And also u want range

Yes

[oak wigeon]

ok i took off the erosion augment (i personally like the artillery augment) and put on augur message and reach over intensify and the open slot

current stats are 159% dur , 95% eff, 130 range, 163 strength

[wary forge]

U can be negative efficiency

Since ur on equil and energize

[oak wigeon]

i put stretch over streamline, though if i dont love it ill just put on p flow

[wary forge]

I would go flow

[oak wigeon]

any hellminth you like over anything or just leave kit as is

[wary forge]

Just take out the augments trust if u have enough range ur just gonna need to mobile turret

[wary forge]

I go roar over her 4

Nourish is good 2 but yeah I mainly use her as a platform with hotshot

[mighty flare]

you dont need high strength on protea with mods like blind rage (esp if not using overextended)
or archon vitality (turrets deal mostly raw damage)
duration is top priority
flow is good, augments are good if you're using her 4, erosion is free boost and artillery is free cc/low level nuking
nourish over 3 is good for a more mobile setup, or the usual roar/armor strip/grouping subsume over her 4

[wary forge]

^

Vitality is good if ur not on high strengnth but like if u want to go something like roar u atleast need a bit for that

[mighty flare]

you get a free +100% snapshot with her passive, using maug too is more than enough

[charred gale]

ur fighting an impossible fight my guy

[wary forge]

[wary forge]

True

Being good at trash clear is like being good at cleaning your house like anyone can do it but you’re gonna hire cleaners if you’re lazy

[oak wigeon]

ok so now my stats are 240 dur, 100 eff, 121 range, 100 strength

[charred gale]

c/mereseconds

[wary forge]

C/rev Torid

[charred gale]

so op please nerf

[wary forge]

[karmic holly]

How to build Atlas' landslide fists?

I built it to deal Heat damage and I put Melee Exposure on it for the corrosive bonus too. Is there a more optimal setup/better elements?

[bold warren]

@lunar mesa I upgraded Equilibrium to 90 Health + 90 Energy Regen and I still feel like I’m having a little difficulty in sustaining my abilities but the issue is Rank 5 Transient Fortitude is nowhere near as good as Blind Rage so IDK what to do.

[wary forge]

You could go influence

Or aflictions

If u want to use runbled

[crude plume]

is this harrow build alright? Never really played him that much

[wary forge]

Rumbled is lowk the tech knowers know

[lunar mesa]

My thought process would be is: Would you rather have more damage but less uptime? or slightly less damage but more consistent uptime.

You would be better off swapping Blind Rage for more comfort and being able to upkeep and use his abilities more frequently. Will also help with survivability since you'll be able to place new shields down without the higher energy cost.

[wary forge]

What are we cooking with this

[crude plume]

Caster Harrow

[wary forge]

Interesting

I have no idea if that’s actually good

[crude plume]

The setup and a Huras Kubrow

[bold warren]

Meaning what? Cause Transient Fortitude Rank 5 is a major drop-off compared to Blind Rage so yeah.

[crude plume]

2 casting speed and 3 duration shards

[lunar mesa]

Sure it's less strength but at least you won't have high energy cost abilities cause rn your issue is energy economy.

So you're sacrificing some ability strength for more comfort with energy, which is a well worth it trade-off.

[wary forge]

I respect the cook

[bold warren]

Have you compared the Numbers?

[crude plume]

low efficiency is good for shield gating as well, as long as you have good energy substain

[bold warren]

Transient Fortitude reduces Duration but I GTG. Peace out y’all.

[wary forge]

True high efficiency is also fine more energy spent is more of a conversion with augur mods

On protea u don’t need any survivability tho u just spam 1

Really just rolling guard for insurance

[tardy lily]

Any augur mods on protea = you ruining her 1st ability

[wary forge]

Ye I’m just saying in general

[lunar mesa]

R5 Blind Rage (+54% STR / -30% EFF)

• Shock Trooper: 154% Electric Damage (19.5 energy)
• Speed: 2.15x Speed Multiplier (32.5 energy)
• Electric Shield: Not affected (65 energy)
• Discharge: Affects damage but this is mainly used for CC and Capacitance (130 energy)

R5 Transient Fortitude (+30% STR / -15% DUR)

• Shock Trooper: 130% Electric Damage (15 energy)
• Speed: 1.97x Speed Multiplier (25 energy)
• Electric Shield: Not affected (50 energy)
• Discharge: Affects damage but this is mainly used for CC and Capacitance (100 energy)

So you're losing out on:

• 24% Electric Damage from Shock Trooper
• 0.18x Speed Multiplier

So really you're giving up a minor difference in damage and speed for the added benefit of cheaper energy costs to upkeep his abilities and help fix the issue you're having of energy. You could make the argument of the -DUR on Transient Fortitude but if you're abilities are cheaper you should be able to recast easier.

[wary forge]

Volt doesn’t need to upkeep his abilities that much the only thing ur going to be casting a lot is I guess his 2 but even then u don’t need to be spamming it

Shock trooper an shield base durations are like more then enough not to mention even if u have a bit of a duration they scale very well

[lunar mesa]

Well they did say they're experiencing energy issues

Even with Equilibrium + Flow

[wary forge]

Ye didn’t think he had equil maxed

[lunar mesa]

Plus they aren't even in Steel Path yet, so the added QoL of cheaper abilities to help with energy economy makes it more comfortable.

[wary forge]

Ye

Shock trooper doesn’t need to be scaled that crazy for 95% of the game

[lunar mesa]

Yeah exactly

[wary forge]

Volt has great base stats

[lunar mesa]

Yeah he does, especially with his Prime giving double the max energy

[opal leaf]

Hehehe

Hi Spec

[lunar mesa]

Hi

[opal leaf]

I'm planning to get Frost, do you have access to his avalanche thingy overguard guard?

I just need an Orokin Cell tbh

[lunar mesa]

I think so, I'm actually not sure if I do

[opal leaf]

(again with the Comfy survivability... Vauban is suffering hahahah)

Gahhhh I need to focus on Vaubs fr fr

[wary forge]

You gotta go caster with huras or shield gate with nourish/orb spam

Vauban is a squish

[crude plume]

Vauban survives by killing all enemies and cc

[toxic cypress]

anything i can improve here?

[wary forge]

For most of the game ye

[toxic cypress]

too poor for exilus

[wary forge]

Crit damage

[tardy lily]

Hmmm that's an interesting statement, squishy on a caster frame

[wary forge]

Yes

Vauban isn’t just a caster lol

[tardy lily]

So you can't mod him huh

[wary forge]

You’re right!

Send me a clip of u living level cap then

[tardy lily]

Yeah you can't mod him otherwise you too would be enjoying his 3rd

[tardy lily]

Oh I will do you one better, will invite you to cascade with me when am back home

You game?

[lunar mesa]

What is this battle of the vaubans

[wary forge]

Check Muturals

[tardy lily]

Perfect

[wary forge]

Like I said if u go caster with kubrow then I mean sure

[tardy lily]

Nope am gonna use my house

[opal leaf]

Idk what I did hahahha

I already know vauban

I can already survive

He is just not comfy to survive :/

I'm making him tanky, no shade bc I am shooting guns

[tardy lily]

I hate invis game play styles

[wary forge]

There’s just no way ur gonna live cap I mean in squad sure

[tardy lily]

Nah duo you n me, me on atk you on def

[wary forge]

I’m not trying to 1v1 lol

[opal leaf]

Anyways

I'll figure out what to do with Vauban, Spec and I already talked about it that's why I mention it bc I am loving Dagath now hahah

[tardy lily]

Not 1v1 😂

[wary forge]

U can agree to disagree

[tardy lily]

👀

[wary forge]

Im just saying from when I played him I had to shield gate if I wasn’t invis

[opal leaf]

Vaubs?

[wary forge]

But I wasn’t playing him full caster tho was doing him as a platform

[tardy lily]

Ofc you shield gate ever frame that has shields does that

[opal leaf]

..... What do you even need to do if a frame has shield...????????

[tardy lily]

Caster vauban is fun especially after exo 60 that's when his 3rd becomes fun to throw out

[wary forge]

It is fun yeah

I really should give it a try

[opal leaf]

Anyways I'm using his ability like a bomb or smth

Like utility grenades for my weapon to hit better and clean the rooms better

[wary forge]

Lazy gate or shield gate

[tardy lily]

His 3rd is also fun in base sp

[wary forge]

But I mean for 95% of the game ur not gonna need survivability like that

[opal leaf]

Oh I know all of that

I tried everything on Vauban... What ever you mention I probably already do that hahahahah

[wary forge]

Just spam bastille and u should be good

[tardy lily]

Did you try a hound with him yet ?

[opal leaf]

As I said, I can survive with Vauban..only not the same comfortability as Dagath or Loki.
That's all, it's nor a comparison between

It's just I'm trying to find comfortability

[wary forge]

Ye

[tardy lily]

Ah

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's where the "probably" happen hahahah..

[wary forge]

I mean yeah he’s not the comfiest frame

[opal leaf]

True, that's why I'm trying to find comfortability

[wary forge]

Rev Torid

[tardy lily]

Especially if you spam cast his 3rd afew don't actually hit

[crude plume]

they cannot kill you if they cannot see you

[wary forge]

Knowers

[tardy lily]

Eww 😭

[opal leaf]

It sure is comfortable... But too comfy that it feels not good

That's why I like Dagath more

[wary forge]

Tbh any frame is really comfy with lazy gate

U really don’t gotta use ur brain

[opal leaf]

Ehhh.... I won't gonna comment on that

[wary forge]

Follie looks like shes gonna be really comfy

[tardy lily]

Wonder how many gonna get banned cause of the whole custom emblems

[opal leaf]

Yee

[wary forge]

lol

I think people are gonna be chill about it we will see tho

Prob gonna make a bunch of 67 stuff

[tardy lily]

Let's find out in a few hrs 😂

[opal leaf]

Anyways

Gonna leave see ya tennos

[wary forge]

Gn

[violet silo]

she doesnt look particularly fun to me tho
idk

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna make short letter signs of communication

"Left" "Right"
"S.O.S."
"RUN!"
"Stay"

[violet silo]

ping variants

im just gonna make emoticons

[velvet pulsar]

Depends
Some people consider fun as more options & flexibility, that 2nd ability might bring a lot of stuff to mess around.

If we ignore the 2, even then she might be a good nuker. Slow, but scaling dmg.

She might even be good for interception

Because she can make a defense objective to lure enemies to one place while the interception remains unguarded, and she can press 4 to make the enemies fly, so new enemies won't spawn

It's good that the players have choice to let the enemies caught in 4 die or not

[violet silo]

im getting her anyways

shes gonna be a great utility frame

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely

She might be new meta for solo interception

Nyx could get overthrown

(also she might be able to infinitely stack enervate)

[novel bear]

With the rpg?

[velvet pulsar]

Enervate stacks against object based health without reseting

The death orb may have friendly fire disabled but the hitreg might still work

[novel bear]

Ah

[velvet pulsar]

Also it could be possible that certain creations may not have collisions disabled

So we can use something like life support capsule + med tower + atomicycle to blockade enemies

...and it won't negatively affect players because they can still interact with the life support capsule to remove it out of their path

[novel bear]

Can’t wait for the nerfs to hit

[velvet pulsar]

How many can they?

Also if I found anything unreasonable I'll get a green flag to deploy my feedback building up for a long time

[coral crest]

Every hotfix they remove a single item out of her list

We end up with barrels, death orbs and thermian rpg that deals 4k damage

[velvet pulsar]

20k as per history

"We have removed their scaling damage because nobody used her 4."

• DE

[static sphinx]

How to improve the Koumei build besides augment?

[coral crest]

Reduce range to around 200%

[static sphinx]

What should I replace it with then?

[coral crest]

Ability str is kind of useless on her also

[coral crest]

Augment?

[static sphinx]

I will get it eventually, but I can't as of right now. Maybe efficiency or something?

I might replace strength with something as well.

[coral crest]

Koumei is silly, she basically doesn't need anything

[novel bear]

Survivability

[coral crest]

200% range is a sweet stop because her 1 has a thread limit that's reached by that point

Ability str doesn't do much because all her str abilities are status infliction

[static sphinx]

I will have 195% I guess enough.

So, efficiency and survivability?

[coral crest]

You can basically slot survivability and any sort of quality of life mods

Like slide or aim glide mods for those decrees to get easier

[coral crest]

Fast deflection/Vigilante Vigor with Omamori basically make you immortal

The rest is whatever you want, do get an augment though

[static sphinx]

I'm only unable to do the slide one

Don't think aim glide will help

[coral crest]

Here's a tip

You can enable slide during aim glide

It'll count

[static sphinx]

I could add catalyzing shields I guess. Wouldn't it be better?

[coral crest]

You can mix that in too

But would be kind of an overkill imo

[static sphinx]

I mean replace shield restoration with immortality time.

Also, how important is duration here?

[coral crest]

She's eating hits with a 50% chance and that has a cooldown of 3s to essentially restoring your shield to full

Maybe. Not sure which one does better

[static sphinx]

So, besides her augment and patagium, is it good now?

[coral crest]

Looks good to me

[static sphinx]

It's not too much duration, right?

I could replace agur massage with patagium, but I'm not sure how significant the duration is.

[fierce lark]

duration does basically nothing

[opal leaf]

Do you think it'll work on Vaubs?

[opal leaf]

On Koumei? You basically just need range

A singular Overextended is enough believe me or not

Like...... You just need that

Like if you slot in

Intensify (just for the sake of health or heal increase)

Overextended

And Continuity

Your good, the rest is just simple shiz

[vagrant whale]

Does deth laser and tazicor rivens have any worth nowadays? Or is the default just verglas

[static sphinx]

So, duration isn't important either?

[opal leaf]

Yup

[static sphinx]

I guess I'll replace agur massage with patagium then.

I wasn't expecting her to have so little investment requirements.

[opal leaf]

Whatever you need

I go full health tank/shield gate

[static sphinx]

I will definitely need some additional convenience for omikujis.

I didn't want to waste slots for it before, but it doesn't seem like I can waste any slots at this point.

[coral crest]

Yes.

[opal leaf]

I might resort to that

[fierce lark]

just verglas, nothing else really benefits from rivens

in theory you could make the tazicor or helstrum better with a riven that increases status output

fire rate, status chance, mag size, punch through on taz

[chrome badge]

i like my helstrum and dethcube rivens

fire rate and reload speed is really nice on them

[fierce lark]

never before seen sentinel riven

verglas, helstrum and tazicor are all far better than anything else in the “sentinel weapons that shoot” category

[chrome badge]

cryottra?

cryotra is really niche but not bad

[weary lily]

did i cook or burn

[umbral knoll]

@wary forge Hi! Do you know what arcane your Dante friend uses?

and what Shards?

[eternal prism]

secret shards secrets arcanes

[weary lily]

diriga build anyone?

[opal leaf]

Finally... My Vauban is comfy

[eternal prism]

this frame ruin my defense mission

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1481425861616861275/attachment.gif

[opal leaf]

XDDD how?

[eternal prism]

enemy stack in door

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-cat-uncanny-cat-gif-17717270398074174657

[opal leaf]

Ahhhhhhh well.... I don't use Vauban as that hahaha

[eternal prism]

I have to use saryn because vauban

otherwise this will all drag on for a long time

[coral crest]

There's a better way to do it if you still want to tornado enemies

Augmented Styanax 1 has more range than vauban and works with LoS

His spears are no joke for cc

And they only cost 15 energy at base

Just an overguard bot btw

Intrepid stand was a mistake

[umbral knoll]

@wary forge you here?

I need answer pretty quickly

[eternal prism]

secret cc tech for crit phenmor

[velvet pulsar]

Reminds me of Mach Crash augment

[opal leaf]

That is trje

Only difference is Vauban has longer dura than Styanax 1 hahahah

[opal leaf]

What does it do?

[blissful root]

i use styanax often, i feel like his kit is just very boring if im honest

i mean personally i use atlas now but back when i used styanax it was kinda boring

building atlas is annoying because either i grind conclave for his rumbled augment or spend like 40 plat on his augment

[blissful root]

pulls enemies in i think

[compact cypress]

is there anything i can change about my wisp build?

[versed fossil]

I was excited by my custom kitgun secondary using the fastest fire rate grip, like that once modded it would be fun to brrrrt with, but then I looked on the wiki for comparisons and there're several with higher base fire rates than what I built so that's put a damper on my construct.

I mean first example of better than would be the Velox Prime with 17, which is more than the Rattleguts+Gibber of 11.

[opal leaf]

OOO...... CC GAUSS!!!

[deep grotto]

Kitguns are still fun :D

[versed fossil]

Yea, is just the kitgun I was referring to that I built just seems overshadowed in the category of fast secondaries.

[deep grotto]

That’s the case with all of them
The thing is they’re still reasonably strong

Tombfinger my goat

[versed fossil]

I did though at least with the zaws build a couple that seem to be lacking in these other categories, that being "fast high crit dagger" and "machete class that's a hammer", the latter because all the 1h hammers are paired with a shield.

[wary forge]

Just go exodia contagion

[wary forge]

I forgot really what ever is fine

Asked him

[bold warren]

Thanks for explaining.

[wide verge]

which combo is better dual toxic with torid or burston?

[craggy niche]

Stretch should be archon stretch, narrow-minded isn't really needed on her nor is adaptation, with your freed up slot from adaptation you can go umbral vitality and run bellicose and energy conversion in lieu of narrow minded

[opal leaf]

It's usually the

Crowd Killer and Boss Killer

So in my case I go Torid as the Crowd Killer

Dual Toxo as the Boss Killer (though DUAL tox can do crowd killing if you can hit the head properly tho)

[velvet pulsar]

(3s duration, unaffected by mods)

[opal leaf]

8mteres

Can it be bigger through range?

[opal leaf]

Oh fck

Late read

Dammit

[velvet pulsar]

Range is affected

The duration isn't

22.4m is the max range u can reach

[deft shuttle]

Would more range be better instead of precision intestify

[atomic moth]

Obv torid since it has clear

You want clearing weapon while running dt

[opal leaf]

OOO!!!!

GAUSS WHERE YOU ATT!

[loud echo]

Does arcane persistence work if i increase my armor with a Warframe ability like Warcry?

[swift wedge]

sooo.
I really Like Kestrel Prime and definitely want to figure out a build

there's a few ideas I have.. but I kinda don't want to run with Influence.
Tempted by Melee Vortex to gather and chain explode. opinions?

[swift wedge]

yep, also works with the energy Arcane. my Valk has over 1000 Energy reserves so I have a backup with the Primary Arcane, also just gives me a safety net incase an Energy Leech comes by

[loud echo]

Sweet thank you

I have an idea for kullervo then

[potent flint]

Kullervo with warcry? Bro is crafting a nuclear weapon nice

[wary forge]

bruh

yeah i asked vidalion ill let you know if anything jsut go like molt aug or smth

[atomic moth]

Just slot melee afflictions and take lavos

Explosion has ragdoll force proc

[swift wedge]

How about.. no?
I found a thing I like and want to build off of it, not the other way around.. ^-^”

Sorry if it comes off as rude I’m just hyper focus brain

Rn I really like Vortex because im chaining 5k+ damage in an aoe multiple times and its wrecking the max level simulacrums I can get

[atomic moth]

There's is still no reason to not slot afflictions, without smth like Lavos statuses just won't be that consistent

[swift wedge]

It.. really is? I’m hitting that 60% proc multiple times against then since they’re all in one spot and being hit 8 times a group

[atomic moth]

5k damage is like nothing, even xoris hits harder

5k damage legit is reachable with 2-3 mods in build

[swift wedge]

…and? I’m having fun :3
It’s not an op “best build”
But I like it, and the points is to experiment

The core parts I’m going for is Gathering via Vortex, and having the bounces all hit the clusters I create

[atomic moth]

You need to kill to be able to proc vortex, 5k damage is like, the weapon won't even able to do anything on sortie missions

[swift wedge]

I was testing on 185 Steel Path.. seemed to do the trick with 1 throw

[atomic moth]

Not even mentioning sp

Then you just telling the wrong numbers

[swift wedge]

Idk what to say? I mean it’s the stat numbers I have? Maybe it’s just mods not showing up on the modding screen

[atomic moth]

So you're talking about the mod screen instead of damage to the enemy..

Mod screen damage numbers shows nothing related to the damage you're actually dealing

[glass salmon]

can someone help me build my kuva sobek for uriel?

[fierce lark]

heat

[steady stirrup]

Is using a weapon or companion for grouping at all necessary on yareli? Or does the 4 do all the grouping

[glass salmon]

this is my current build

[fierce lark]

throw in scattering inferno over ravage if you have it, and bane over ppb if it’s usable

if you just don’t want to use banes you can use clip delegation there instead, and if you also don’t have wildfire you can use ravage/critical decel instead

[glass salmon]

okay so i dont have scattering inferno and wildfire

[bold warren]

@fringe quiver Here is the main Melee Build I use above + my Volt Prime but with Transient Fortitude over Blind Rage and a higher Equilibrium Mod. Also my Kubrow.

[fierce lark]

wildfire is a rifle mod

acid shells dot inherit, assuming it scales the same way it does on saryn oraxia cyte, benefits from cleanse mods thrice, heat mods twice, and other elemental/status dmg mods once

[wary forge]

I like impetus and then your choice of any of: steadfast, concentration, energize, consequence, camisado, molt augmented, molt efficiency

[wary forge]

u really want a faction mod /use roar

[glass salmon]

my uriel uses other build not with roar

[wary forge]

ye if ur using nourish

then ye run a faction mod

[fierce lark]

you can’t use roar with acid shells on uriel anyway

well you can but it’s useless to do so

[wary forge]

im pretty sure it works like that

[glass salmon]

i dont even use nourish too

[fierce lark]

subsuming roar would turn off the str scaling on the buff that you’re spreading with acid shells

roar has to go over 3

[wary forge]

well ye on ureil its useless

[glass salmon]

i dont use any subsuming

[wary forge]

u dont need 2 on ureil ye

[glass salmon]

that gives you to surivie more

with 2 and revive your demons too

[wary forge]

no like

u dont need to have a subsume

[glass salmon]

yea

uriel is good and doesnt need of any subsume

hold on let me get the sobek build again of what i replaced bc its updating rn for the new update

[fringe quiver]

Okay so what sword is that? I will say the immediate thing that jumps out to me is condition overload. It’s a good mod, but you are using it on a weapon that only has 20% status chance. I recommend building for crit instead, I see a sexy 35% crit chance that is begging to be used.

I won’t comment on volt because I don’t play him nor do I know what to build him for.

[glass salmon]

here of what i replaced and also what kind of element to use fire or?

[bold warren]

Broken War.

[fierce lark]

just heat, and i think primed ravage is prob better then delegation there

[fringe quiver]

As for the kubrow, you built it as well as you can with your mod selection methinks. Idk where to farm other mods for it but it seems solid for what you got at least. I say this because idk what you would build an ideal kubrow with

[craggy niche]

I basically never use roar for anything outside of ability damage 💔

[fringe quiver]

Figured! I don’t have the data to download warframe on my phone so I’ll show you what I got on the companion app and try to build it on a website. I am sure there are ways it can be improved but it works well for me rn

[glass salmon]

alright

[craggy niche]

And even then I barely like it. It's nice on my danse danse revolution revenant but other than that its just boring

[bold warren]

I'm missing stuff like Maul and those other Claw Mods mainly

[bold warren]

I have no clue where to get even half of these / I missed Primed Pressure Point but alas, thanks. I plan to make a Primer Nautilus Prime Build hopefully soon so yeah...

[fierce lark]

my favorite hard hitter on the melee is Veiled Riven

very strong mod

[fringe quiver]

Tis fine. You will get access to 2 powerful melee mods when you do the sacrifice quest soon.

[novel bear]

It could be anything until it’s unveiled
Schrödinger’s damage, sometimes you do 6 times, others 1/6

[fiery pagoda]

Okay so let me get this straight...Follie has a move that lets her literally pull out one of the many items that can be scrolled around in the environment, and just smack it upside the head to cause a chain reaction affect.

Bro imagine... Ink balloons to the sky... Set up a copious amount of barrels underneath... Pop balloons

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-explode-clouds-of-smoke-gif-17216934

[trim finch]

Coda Bubonico seems neat, but idk if a larger mag and spool trigger is worth the added centralized screen clutter (why are arm cannons so dang big)

[fiery pagoda]

To be fair I kind of feel like they should be given at least a minor bit of quality of life changes... Maybe make it so that when you have it on you have a disappear when you're aiming down sites... Kind of like what they do with the wings.

[fringe quiver]

This is my normal build. I’d replace impact with gladiator vice if I had it. I am not going to claim this is a perfect build, but it works for me

[fiery pagoda]

That said I am looking forward to trying this thing out. I heard good things about the Bubonico, and I have 10 life cells already waiting for that bad boy

[fringe quiver]

The idea is to get more crit and crit damage so my sword does massive amounts of it.

[fierce lark]

i played mostly nothing but saryn for years, my entire life is schrodinger’s damage

[fiery pagoda]

An actually good arm Cannon!? Yes!?

[fierce lark]

is gun good because gun good or is gun good because roarlashdose making it good

[fiery pagoda]

I mean... Let's be fair here if you're a weapons frame, nine times out of 10 you are going to be screwing around with Roar, Lash, Dose

Or other potential buffers.

I'm honestly quite partial to the Thermal Transfer.

Because what says a better weapon than more...

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

[fierce lark]

cold transfer op

[fiery pagoda]

I mean..... Technically speaking if you really want to go for crit damage....

Based on what I hear I'm no arbiter of what works

[fierce lark]

10 stacks of cold still adds less than tenacious bond, and the damage type isn’t good against anything you care about

cold sucks

[fiery pagoda]

Then why did you suggest cold transfer!?

[fierce lark]

https://tenor.com/view/가짜뉴스-fake-news-트럼프-trump-president-gif-9005449299151490118

[fiery pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-gif-4810169

[plain prairie]

follie barrel spawn into slam 👀

[fringe quiver]

The stance is there because I thought it looked cool. Idk if it matters to me rn.

Galvanized steel, the mod that this is built around, can be gotten anytime through arbitration honors. It’s a game mode you unlock and the card is bought with an item dropped in it. It’s not rng based, just takes a few days at max.

Gladiator mods are from Cetus, and the elemental mods are wherever they drop idk, check the wiki.

[bold warren]

Where'd ya get the Revenant Mod?

[pale bane]

i kid you not. on sunday i got a 75% discount and i stop playing for only 2 days and i login and saw this..

[fringe quiver]

I don’t remember, it was just a drop somewhere. I would check the wiki because I really don’t know.

[bold warren]

[pale bane]

suffering from success fr fr

[fringe quiver]

It just sounded cool and sounded fitting for the sword

[bold warren]

What faction are you Pledged to @fringe quiver if I may ask?

[fringe quiver]

New Loka, Perrin Sequence, and Red Veil. I didn’t know anything when I pledged, I just saw a female leader and thought it was neat so I choose New Loka 🤷‍♀️

[plain prairie]

well that seems intentional... follie only has 499 energy with primed flow

[fringe quiver]

Aye I think I got it from conjunction survival relic missions on lua. I have an extra one if you want it later, but I would have to get on in like 10-12 hours

[bold warren]

I was going to ask are ya interested in any of the mods from Arbiters of Hexis but no sweat if not. I just may need Despoil if I buy Nekros Prime but Red Veil/Perrin absolutely hate me so trading it would be easier.

[novel bear]

Secret melee frame follie

[bold warren]

Nah nah nah, I'm good thanks XD I appreciate the offer though.

[plain prairie]

yeah. the barrel spawn into melee does a lot

[fringe quiver]

I only have New Loka at level 5 rn. I am trying to get Trinity and Nova prime so I won’t upgrade the other 2 to level 5 yet

Since I need Aya.

[bold warren]

Yeah no worries. Sorry to bother ya 🫂

[fringe quiver]

Ofc! It would have been free btw, no plat 🫡

In any case, it doesn’t seem too rare

[bold warren]

Arbiters is my only Rank 5 Syndicate also.

Hence why I was wondering if we could trade Syndie Exclusive Mods if I do buy Nekros Prime but

[plain prairie]

it's around 220% ish ability str to get the max def reduction

[lean tendon]

Certified simp + gooner

[umbral knoll]

1. Since I read the wiki, Imp[etus doesn't have that much potencial if Tragedy or 3rd skill has only slash status.. BUT if this Noctua embed form, if it will work like it inflicts many statuses and if it will synergize with Impetus, that would be huge..

[lean tendon]

Impetus is very good on Dante. You pretty much stack it up to 13 which is the max.

Encumber build is what you want for your Noctua.

[umbral knoll]

Ohhh! that's huge then!! I forgot about Encumber!!!

Extremely thank you!

[lean tendon]

Yeah you get those Impetus stacks very easily because of Noctua with Encumber. Pair it with Seismic Bond and you get high efficiency and strength.

[fringe quiver]

Nah, I just like uplifting fellow women 😎😎

Though I hear the New Loka are like space fascists so idk if I support them as much lol. Or rather I wouldn’t if I haven’t already gotten to level 5 🤷‍♀️

[lean tendon]

I just looked up "how to do 4 syndicates" guides and picked the first thing I saw xd

[hushed hinge]

Thoughs on coda bunonico ?

[lean tendon]

Suda, Hexis, Steel Meridian, Red Veil are my R5 syndicates

[fringe quiver]

Whenever I get what I need from the new Loka and stuff, I will also level steel meridian

[solemn kiln]

huh the new primary can red crit without crit mods on it

[jade drum]

Folie’s 4 can be affected by her 2. Guys this is crazy

[solemn kiln]

i like folie so far she is pretty fun

[lean tendon]

Average warframe aoe nuking:

[umbral knoll]

but now, let's compare the second arcane choices - I now have Molt Augmented owned at max, but which will be better for me right now:

1. Arcane Concentration for duration to not worry about casting these abilities that last for a little
2. Molt Augmented for even MORE ability strenth, but I already have Archon Shards on Strenth, also I don't know if it impacts Noctua ability, but this "embed form"

I have 55% percent efficiency now, looking at the stats.. but Equilibrium and Seismic Bond should support this, so I'm just consciously excluding Arcane Energize, Molt Efficiency and Steadfast, since I have no problems with energy now

[lean tendon]

I use Molt Augmented + Impetus

I don't even use Equilibrium, I have Energy Nexus instead

[umbral knoll]

What?? I guess it's less effective to be using Energy Nexus, I prefer collecting orbs tbh

[lean tendon]

Archon Stretch + Energy Nexus + Xata Invocation gives like a lot of energy per second and you pretty much have that almost 100% uptime

I don't even have Flow xd

I can probably get more value but I don't want to invest too much Forma. Overall a 6 forma build.

[umbral knoll]

So, no need to do Equilibrium then?

[lean tendon]

My Archon Shards are: 2 Tauforged Casting Speed, 2 Tauforged Parkour Velocity, 1 Tauforged energy max. I was thinking of swapping the Energy Max to an Equilibrium shard instead.

[umbral knoll]

omg, that's so huge ofr mod capacity then!

[lean tendon]

Up to you. Personally I don't have energy problems with my current setup.

[umbral knoll]

Does Archon Stretch will work with https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Lightning_Dash

Lighting fdash on bullet jump adds electricity

[lean tendon]

And I could probably squeeze more if I just add more Forma to my Dante to change the build but it's doing its job at 2 + 4 forma.

[umbral knoll]

to enemies

[lean tendon]

You can just rely on your encumber and companion tbh

Wait idk if encumber procs archon mods but Companion does

[solemn kiln]

wait companion mods can proc archon mods?

[umbral knoll]

yeah, I will try to stay at Lighting Dash anyway, and I don't need more velocity of parkour, it's fast neough for me

[craggy niche]

Kinda like the uhhhh

[wary forge]

All of them

For beats you just mod their claws for the element

[solemn kiln]

huh good to know

[umbral knoll]

Casting speed is also not that important to me, I'm using Natural Talent, so I can jsut improve casting speed a lot! I'm fulfilled with one archon shard and that mod anyway

does Adaptation work on Overshields?

[solemn kiln]

no

[lean tendon]

Imo, it's better to run casting speed shards over Natural Talent. Not running parkour velocity is fine. Honestly I am just used to Titania's speed since I main her so I like my other frames to be fast as well.

[shut monolith]

If i use invisibility with something like a huras kubrow, will photon strike from vauban break that invisibility

[umbral knoll]

why shards over one mod?

[lean tendon]

Mods give more compared to archon shards so freeing up a mod space is always good.

[finite stone]

https://overframe.gg/build/990399/?saved=1774456162071

Does this look like a good build

[lean tendon]

8 forma damn

[finite stone]

Lol

Two umbra too

[craggy niche]

Yes adaptation applies to and works fairly well with shields as shields carry a inherent 50 percent buff anyway

The bonuses have diminishing returns due to the way they stack tho as you csn never truly achieve 100 percent res outside of I frame abusing frames and strats so in super high levels of play its effectiveness scales off eventually

[midnight citrus]

Can I get a Grendel build?

[craggy niche]

Lol I was just fact checking myself on the warfrsme wiki and looking at hildryns passive set and apparently you can supercharge rail jack by having hildryn as the pilot lmao

It doesnt have a system in place to bypass the energy->shield conversion do it just uses hildryns shield as a energy pool lmao

[full star]

you guys got any advice on modding the new Enkaus?

[novel bear]

It takes much longer for the shield cost of things to go down, because they go down at the rate energy would

[midnight citrus]

Are Umbra mods generally better than their regular counterparts, if you got U-Formas to spare?

[novel bear]

Intensify is
Vitality and fiber are if you’re using another umbral mod, which you probably are

[solemn kiln]

It can red crit without crit mods

[craggy niche]

Thats hilarious

[craggy niche]

Now that bellicose is a thing its definitely getting to be this way

[dire merlin]

yo guys does anyone have a good kestrel prime build ? i love this weapon

[hot furnace]

trying to figure out if my regular Bubonico's build is fine or if I should change anything to adjust to the Coda stat change

[novel bear]

What’s the riven?

[coral crest]

How's the new beam rifle

[novel bear]

I don’t think that riven is very usable
I would put on crit mods over point blank and the riven

Unless you’re mainly using the altfire, in which case take off savvy

[wary forge]

Run charged shell of that riven

Or chilling grasp

Ideally the primed one

[wary forge]

Pretty mid it’s basically just phage

But without the high dispo so it lacks a lot of mulishot

It can execute enemies at 35% hp tho

[velvet pulsar]

What's the AoE on Tenet Quanta?

(range)

[brittle sleet]

Not really, it looks like an inferior Oberon

[sacred nexus]

how do i heal/survive in encounters with forced nullify abilities? (the secret bosses)

[wary forge]

Vaz sling

Rolling guard

The arcane that negates a magnetic proc

[brittle sleet]

Shield regen and rolling guard, Circumvent, Vazarin, or set up effective HP values and abuse Hirudo/Hema

Note that Arcane Nullifier (?) will not prevent your abilities getting switched off

[sacred nexus]

can't go to operator in these kinds of encounters (janus key vor, 60 eyes boss, the guilty)

[brittle sleet]

ngl I didn't recall that either

But sounds right

[wary forge]

Ye just try rolling guard

[sacred nexus]

not sure how circumvent works, is that like a roll to heal type thing?

[brittle sleet]

Unairu recommended for passive armor boost I suppose

[wary forge]

That should help a lot

Or that one mod that reduces status duration

[brittle sleet]

Roll to get overguard from any available eximus and armor from anything with armor

If they're available on me for the specific chunk of the fight

Probably not that worthwhile as an option though

Due to the phases without other enemies

[sacred nexus]

hirudo sounds interesting. does it work similar to valkyr's lifesteal?

[wary forge]

Yes

[abstract axle]

heals only on crit, otherwise the same

[solemn kiln]

im surprised no one has been talking about the new frame or weapons in here

[wary forge]

Also increases max hp buy a bit as well

But yeah it heals u when it crits

[steady stirrup]

Is yareli 4 good for grouping ir does the explosion mean it doesnt work well for it

[brittle sleet]

They don't fly too far from the explosion, and if you don't dump duration super hard they stay in the water bubble for a while, so yeah it's good for grouping

[abstract axle]

enervate bug fixed, and persistence fixed. If the patch notes are right, today is a good day

[slender summit]

Apologies for the long ask, but could anyone supply to me a viable Steel Path build for:

• Lavos Prime
• Euphora Prime and/or Dual Zoren Prime?

[median sparrow]

Does anyone know a good way to build Sevagoth’s shadow’s claws

[abstract axle]

give me a sec for lavos. euphona ain't great, but dual zoren prime is very good

[slender summit]

I have no other Prime sidearm. Is there any you could potentially recommend?

I got Dual Coda Torxica with Cold

[abstract axle]

first, just a thing going forward. Prime weapons aren't necessarily the strongest option. second, what MR are you?

[slender summit]

18

[abstract axle]

torxica is viable\

[gleaming patrol]

if you want something simple and for everything lex prime incarnon is great

[abstract axle]

missing slot is faction. If you don't like faction mods, run gladiator might

[gleaming patrol]

goes great with yareli which you were asking for earlier

[tawny bay]

What are good stats for a coda bassocyst riven

[abstract axle]

@tawny bay theoretically multi, cd, fire rate, damage, are all good, but in practice its minimum dispo and unlikely to slot

[gleaming patrol]

or if you want you could just build a grimoire for enervate and have a energy generating nuke grimoire or something

[slender summit]

What mods should I use for Dual Coda Torxica/Grimoire?

[abstract axle]

a little slapdash, but this build should be fine. Enervate is really good. If you don't have it, you need to find room for a crit chance mod

[distant jackal]

Any builds for meatball man?

[wary forge]

Heavy attack build

With exposure or influence

[slender summit]

Doesn't Khra Canticle come from Albrecht's Lab Mirror Defence mission?

[abstract axle]

wrong screenshot lol

[abstract axle]

ye, canticles optional. though

[wary forge]

Don’t go persistence on grendle

[slender summit]

What should I have in place of it?

[wary forge]

U can just lazy gate very easily since he th lowest shields in the game

[abstract axle]

shields have had nothing to do with gating for over a year now. cats bugged

[wary forge]

Not worth tri umbral forms

[hexed lodge]

What kind of build you using on Sevagoth though?

[abstract axle]

oh, also thats the wrong corrupted mod lol. swap creeping bullseye for anemic

[wary forge]

Yes u just run cat double recharge and you’ll never die u dont even need aegis

[abstract axle]

swap in lethal torrent

[slender summit]

Where does Anemic come from?

[wary forge]

Max range when his spit is like 20 meters base u don’t need range on it lmao I guess streach could be fine

Respectfully that build is not the best

[abstract axle]

respectfully, this will outkill any shielding build. The point of being health is to allow hunter adrenaline to solve energy problems so we can spam 4's

[abstract axle]

also, for radial attacks, range is better the larger the base size

[wide verge]

NEXT WEEK TORID!!!

[wary forge]

“Solve energy problems”

Base kit nourish btw

You only ever spit them out if u need to armor strip an eximus or smth

[slender summit]

huh

[wary forge]

Or want to spreed the status for something I guess but that’s just useless

[abstract axle]

the entire point of this build is to kill with the 4

[wary forge]

Just you a weapon

Why we building for the 4 to kill

[abstract axle]

because its scaling damage that hits in a large aoe

[wary forge]

Falcor and xoris are scaling damage in a large aoe

U get xoris for free btw

[abstract axle]

Scaling damage means it increases with the stats of the enemy, which regurgitate does, since it deals damage based on the hp of the person coughed up

[wary forge]

Yes

It just doesn’t matter since it can only kill trash

[abstract axle]

nah, breach surge lets it kill thrax and acolytes

[wary forge]

Nourish + roar on with any gun on grendle can kill cap

Oh an not to mention primary bullwark

U can run that 2

[modest phoenix]

dont know if this counts for builds, but i need to branch out and use more primary weapons that are good and fun i currently play alot of trinity with roar subsumed and need an idea of a primary to use that id enjoy

[abstract axle]

not that it wont work, but this will kill faster than all but the cream of the crop

[wary forge]

What kinda of primaries do like u currently

[solemn kiln]

the new coda weapon is fun

[wary forge]

It won’t kill a thrax faster then a furis

[modest phoenix]

thats what im sayin i literally only play like torid bc i havent played in so long

[wary forge]

Ah ok

Hmm

Well I like using shotguns a lot

[modest phoenix]

also dont realllly wanna wait for incarnon rotations but dont mind if i find it a cool weaopn

[solemn kiln]

folies weapon is also good it can red crit without crit mods

[modest phoenix]

thank you for the ideas

[wary forge]

The new coda shotgun is pretty fun

Boar incarnon is p much the same thing as Torid but the base gun is actually very useable

[velvet pulsar]

Is there a cap on the fire rate scaling?

[wary forge]

There’s no cap but it does get diminishing returns

[velvet pulsar]

The description says that the primary fire ramps up with continuous fire

[wary forge]

I was running it with just reinforced bond and if fires fast enough trust me

[velvet pulsar]

I don't mean that, I mean if I have 100% ammo efficiency buff

And I keep firing like a mad man

[wary forge]

Oh that trait

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that

[wary forge]

Idk if that has a cap it prob will stop ramping up

[velvet pulsar]

Coz the similar Duviri decree has a cap.

[wary forge]

Ye

That does sound pretty funny I’m ngl

Imam test that later

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer swap right?

Coz that's what I use

Rather than lohk surges or reactant buffs

[solemn kiln]

is there no range mods for shotguns? like firestorm

[void snow]

what flavor (element thing) should I make the Kuva Ghoulsaw?

in my head im imagining either heat and then leave it by itself, cold or toxin for viral or corrosive, or if theres a different thing i should try please lemme know

[craggy niche]

Enervate bug fixed?

🤠

[velvet pulsar]

There are no blast radius mods for shotguns, archguns, or melees.

Only for pistols and rifles.

[solemn kiln]

lame :< and thanks for the answer ❤️

i wanted to put blast radius mods on the new coda weapon

[brittle sleet]

Hate to be that guy, but it is a melee, which means Melee Influence is something to think about

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if there's a negative accuracy corrupted mod for shotguns

[wary forge]

Depends if u wanna go exposure I would prob go magnetic and electric if u wanna go influence I ussaly just default to magnetic on most of the lich weapons

[velvet pulsar]

Go cold.
Become hypoCRITe.

Slow them down, while you speed through them.

[wary forge]

What even are the stats on it

It’s like slash based I think

[velvet pulsar]

Capable of hybrid build.

[wary forge]

Kinda cooked if it is

[void snow]

kuva ghoulsaw

[golden plank]

apparently Follie doesnt need to mod strength

[void snow]

does strength affect her 2's summoned stuff? like the death orb or the arc trap?

[solemn kiln]

doesnt str affect her dr on her 3?

[velvet pulsar]

They all scale their damage with enemy lvl

[solemn kiln]

they should do this for all skills

[velvet pulsar]

Strength might affect her 4, though she doesn't need it

[velvet pulsar]

Funny that u say so because...

We took a step 1 anyway

All warframes, as of this patch, have leveling scaling damage access via smite or inaros subsume + augment

(sand kavats have been mentioned in today's patch)

Also Oraxia's scuttlers now scale with enemy lvl rather than mission lvl.

[solemn kiln]

wait what o-o

[wary forge]

Not bad tbh

[solemn kiln]

this should have been done in the first place

[wary forge]

It does but yeah useless since it doesn’t effect anything with overgusrd

4 or 3 is the subsume slot

[solemn kiln]

it feels like if built right folie could be a better tank then inaros

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely 3

4 can be good for solo interception

[void snow]

alrighty, melee influence being electric status activating, with that in mind, should i pick electric or magnetic for kuvasaw?

[velvet pulsar]

Her 3 might face very very less usage even as a subsume because eclipse exists

[solemn kiln]

elec

there is a mod for magnetic if you really wanna add it

[wary forge]

Wait I just noticed

100% ft on the ghoulsaw

Lmao

[void snow]

what mod?

[wary forge]

Yeah it’s p mid

[velvet pulsar]

Is it really that important stat?

I can see it shining when using grouping tools

[mighty flare]

the traps don't scale off strength, you builds strength for her 4 armor strip/3 dr/subsume

[velvet pulsar]

That's kinda it, it's not some high range weapon

[wary forge]

Yeah means it does the full damage when hitting multiple enemies

[velvet pulsar]

Funnily enough, DE said some of it counts as ability dmg nonetheless

So we can probably buff those via ability dmg shards

[wary forge]

It does but they don’t enough damage I don’t think atleast

The traps are good cause u just spam them

[mighty flare]

buffing them with roar/ability damage was way overkill

[wary forge]

It’s free electric procs

[mighty flare]

esp the barrels

[wary forge]

Ye

[velvet pulsar]

How's the death orb?

[wary forge]

The rpg can apparently just kill anything

[mighty flare]

crazy

[wary forge]

I haven’t used it tho

[velvet pulsar]

Also biggest question, collisions.

Is there any creation with collisions?

[solemn kiln]

there is the jump pad one

[velvet pulsar]

What about life support tower?

Collision on or off?

[solemn kiln]

i think the explosive barrel has collision

cause i stacked one on another

[velvet pulsar]

Cooldown?

[solemn kiln]

none

[mighty flare]

none

[wary forge]

The cooldown is affected by duration

Like for her 2 the ones that have cooldowns

[solemn kiln]

some items do have a cool down just not the explosive barrels

[wary forge]

Yes

And the traps

[ionic sand]

what mods should we be aiming for for miss folie 🙏💚

[solemn kiln]

the lohk one is its timer, altough i am curious if you have more the one folie can you have multiple lohks?

[wary forge]

U don’t really need anything tbh just duration and some range really strength if u wanna go like roar or smth

[mighty flare]

high duration then good range with 164-200% strength if you have/dont have corrosive projection

[velvet pulsar]

Well

[ionic sand]

ty goat 🙏

[wary forge]

Very easy to build frame

Also infinite energy

[mighty flare]

death orb for fallout was funny but way unncessary for energy

even 1 equilibrium shard is enough

[wary forge]

I had equil at fist took it off cause yeah u didn’t even need it

[severe bough]

yea shes busted lmao

i even guessing no subsume is mabye the best idea

[ionic sand]

u guys are very helpful. i appreciate it a lot

[severe bough]

cuz roar or so feels overkill tbh

[wary forge]

Just spam 1 and u will never die

[solemn kiln]

wait does the death orb work like the ones in lua and void and give energy to primes?

[wary forge]

Free damage vul movement and status cleanse

She lowkey got some good movement

[mighty flare]

theres gonna be a advice post for follie soon by sombra, take a look when its up if you need anymore help

[severe bough]

and explodes barrels around u

[wary forge]

Like legit might be like prime hydroid

[velvet pulsar]

Hence why I asked this question thrice several weeks ago:

"Do prime warframe specters proc death orbs?"

[severe bough]

whats going on with those frames lmao

[ionic sand]

oooo tyvm

[velvet pulsar]

Also I have theories to test

[solemn kiln]

i kinda wish they had changed kuva and tenet to be like coda where i can pick and choose my weapon...

[velvet pulsar]

Does enervate stack when u shoot the plate of Follie's death orb?

[coral crest]

Does she have a limited buff subsume slot?

[velvet pulsar]

I had a request to expand Ergo Glast's shop

[velvet pulsar]

3

[mighty flare]

no

you mean like dmg buff restriction?

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe I didn't understand the question

[severe bough]

or how was that meant

[severe bough]

did u alr tested roar over her 3 or so?

[velvet pulsar]

IF u mean something else, her 3 gets nerfed on subsume
75% DR on other frames

[severe bough]

since for me it felt like almost the same with and without

[coral crest]

I mean how you can't subsume roar on cyte unless it's resupply, or unless it's uriel's 3

Does she have anything like that?

[mighty flare]

got class, gonna try more subsumes later
ability damage/roar for barrels feels totally uncessary, would be for the slower traps like arc traps/death orbs

[coral crest]

Okay, thanks!

[velvet pulsar]

There's no damage buffer in her kit.

[coral crest]

Was worth asking

How's her ability damage?

[severe bough]

boom

[velvet pulsar]

Scaling

[coral crest]

Oh wait its objects that scale with lvl

[mighty flare]

big

[severe bough]

scaling barrels

[coral crest]

Of course

Buh

[velvet pulsar]

Still figuring out arcanes to proc

[mighty flare]

not just the barrels, like every trap has health scaling

[severe bough]

tho idk about the traps if the do scale

[solemn kiln]

wait

[severe bough]

so the elec trap

[solemn kiln]

do elemental barrels proc archon mods?

[severe bough]

i currently use concentration and steadfast tho im not sure about steadfast

[velvet pulsar]

Likely yes, but everything's irrelevant

[mighty flare]

stuff like arc traps or death orbs scale by health

[velvet pulsar]

I didn't mean that

[severe bough]

ah well

[craggy niche]

With enervate dead is it better to go hotshot and something else on jade or

[velvet pulsar]

It's not dead

[severe bough]

enervate not dead the bug just got fixed

[mighty flare]

so indirect lvl scaling

[severe bough]

kk

[velvet pulsar]

I meant arcanes which proc by element

[solemn kiln]

i wonder how her dr from her 3 factors in, is it additive after everything else?

[velvet pulsar]

I've heard it's damage redirection rather than basic damage reduction

[severe bough]

really good question only i know is impetus tho thats not really what u mean either

[craggy niche]

It should be fairly obvious that I was implying the bug lol especially considering I cited using it anyway after that part of the message

[mighty flare]

yea redirection

[solemn kiln]

so is it applying before personal armor and dr?

[velvet pulsar]

Which begs the question, is her 3 an invulnerable summon?

[solemn kiln]

yes its timer based

[velvet pulsar]

Coz redirection requires a unit with health

[solemn kiln]

and can be refreshed before its timer is up

[mighty flare]

iirc yeah, duration based, not health

[velvet pulsar]

Ain't no way redirection is simply working like that

There has to be something taking the damage on ur behalf which has an invulnerable health bar

[severe bough]

that baddest thing the didnt even fixed client sobek for cyte i could cry

[proud kestrel]

roar helminth for follie. does it increase balloon drop damage? does it also increase her deployable’s damage?

[velvet pulsar]

Either excuses or was on their least priority

[velvet pulsar]

Unnecessary

For the first time in a long time, unnecessary

[solemn kiln]

i mean if its taking 90% of the damage at max, you take that into a level cap none of your team is ever gonna die

[severe bough]

still boar for arbi ugh

[velvet pulsar]

It's a perfect bug to them

[severe bough]

iirc increases both tho its not really necessary

[velvet pulsar]

Because only hosts can use it, the chances of being "disruptive" is low

[severe bough]

[velvet pulsar]

U will be forced to play solo for taking advantage of it

[proud kestrel]

what would be a nice helminth for follie tho? i’m really not a fan of her first ability.

[velvet pulsar]

Survivability

[solemn kiln]

why her first is a get out of jail free card

[mighty flare]

mobility can be a tad jarring

[velvet pulsar]

Probably some people liked her 3 & 4 more for aesthetics.

[proud kestrel]

i’m still not a fan. it reminds me me of wisp’s second ability and i don’t use that either

[wary forge]

Why would u subsume the 1….

It’s insane movement invul status cleanse

[velvet pulsar]

I assume u don't like Wrathful Advance's teleportation as well?

[wary forge]

Would go roar most likely

[solemn kiln]

honestly id say nothing of hers really needs to be subsumed over

[proud kestrel]

i like the tp

it’s instant

[wary forge]

Roar on the 3

But yeah u can just do base kit follie

[velvet pulsar]

Or...
A status immunity subsume for QoL

[proud kestrel]

the newer warframes are really well rounded

[wary forge]

Her 1 is a status cleanse

[velvet pulsar]

Since you're getting rid of 1

But I won't suggest it

[wary forge]

Very true

Folie can kill all of steel path with just her barrels and 4

[proud kestrel]

how much range does follie’s tp have? it doesn’t say in game

[wary forge]

I don’t know it does scale with range tho

[solemn kiln]

i think its what ever you are aiming at

[wary forge]

With just stretch it’s very far lowkey

[velvet pulsar]

That's unbelievable

[mighty flare]

there's a limit, ive tried it, but its basically as far as you cn see cuz no tile sets are that long

[velvet pulsar]

Open worlds

Test it

[proud kestrel]

it’s around 100 meters

[velvet pulsar]

From plague star cave entrance to cetus gate

[mighty flare]

few* aren't, and i've alr tested it
the teleport range doesnt scale off ability range

neg/max range were same tp distance

[velvet pulsar]

If she teleports full range, she's a contender in speedrunning community

[solemn kiln]

might be a weird one and scale off of duration

[mighty flare]

ill try more later

[solemn kiln]

cause i doubt it would scale off of strength

[proud kestrel]

i feel like she would need a LOT of casting speed to make me want to use her tp.

[mighty flare]

yeah

you want casting speed, if not shards then natural talent

[severe bough]

natural talent + cast shards tech

trust

[velvet pulsar]

So the reason why I asked for life support tower collision is because...

[proud kestrel]

i didn’t search up any guides but i just slapped her on an overextended build and tried to get her enough strength for full strip

[severe bough]

theres nothing to really put on here anyways execpt range some str some duration

[solemn kiln]

huh this is on the wiki for her 1 :Hold down the ability button to center a teleport visual indicator on the reticle, then release the button to cast this ability.

[mighty flare]

mhm 164-200% is all you need for her 4

[velvet pulsar]

Enemy barricading, along with med tower & atomicycle

But it won't affect squadmates because they can interact with life support to free their path

[solemn kiln]

apperently follies death orb can give energy to normal and prime frames

[velvet pulsar]

Death Orb gives energy to all frames in range as long as 1 prime frame came in contact

Try without a prime

[solemn kiln]

the defense capsule has collision: Creates a Defense cryopod capsule. The cryopod has high Threat Level to distract enemies and absorb their attacks. Cryopod has no collision with Follie and allies

[solemn kiln]

was going off of the wiki : Base and Prime Warframes near the Death Orb trigger its one-time energy pulse to refill 250 energy

[unique brook]

for some reason, even though it worked fine earlier last night, my overhealth stopped applying. i dunno why, but it just refuses to come up now, any advice yall?

[velvet pulsar]

I'm saying the same, they're all affected, but only primes can trigger it

Non-primes touching it won't trigger it

[solemn kiln]

oh neat you can bounce on follies ballons like nokko shrooms

[wary forge]

What frame is this

[unique brook]

wisp

[velvet pulsar]

Veso

[modest phoenix]

is praedos good for using trinity

[wary forge]

Yes

[unique brook]

wisp prime specifically

[modest phoenix]

ty

[unique brook]

it worked fine initally

[wary forge]

If u want a build I can send it u want to build it for a slam/heavy attack hybrid

[modest phoenix]

SURE

[wary forge]

Slam to gain combo and heavy attack can legit one shot anything

[velvet pulsar]

That's good to know but I wouldn't use something for barricading which can be removed by enemies

[solemn kiln]

I think its timer based not damage

[wary forge]

I don’t have the build saved on my phone gg

When I get home from work I’ll send it

[proud kestrel]

does casting speed reduce the time the picture displays on follie’s 2?

[velvet pulsar]

That improves things significantly

[proud kestrel]

i put a casting speed shard on her before i could test

[solemn kiln]

Im heading to work so I can't test it

[proud kestrel]

okay the answer is yes.. that kinda sucks

[solemn kiln]

Wait so you want less casting speed?

[wary forge]

I don’t know

[proud kestrel]

casting speed is good. It’s just sad that the art display is based on casting speed. So the moment you put down your art, it vanishes

[wary forge]

It does work on her 1 and 4

Most likely works on her 2

Oh I see what you mean

My sketch book is just a bunch of 67s

[proud kestrel]

art go poof in 0.2 seconds

[outer glacier]

A few questions about this Oraxia build: https://overframe.gg/build/858965/oraxia/the-araneae-queen-oraxia-general-steel-path-endurance-gunbuff-scuttler-minion/

1. Does Growing Power (on status effect with weapon) trigger on Silken Stride's Toxin damage?
2. Would you want to go all in on Toxin with your weapons as well, or pick another element since Silken Stride will give you Toxin anyway?
3. You get Ability Strength from Growing Power, Power Drift, Transient Fortitude, Precision Intensify, Energy Conversion, and Augur Secrets. That's more than half your mods!
   I thought it was generally advised to only have one mod each boost any one stat, because of diminishing returns, so why does this do the exact opposite?
4. Does Silken Stride's energy drain trigger Augur Secrets, or does it only work on active casting?

[wary forge]

Want to mod toxin on your weapon and run toxic shards yes

It is technically diminishing returns to build a lot of strength if u want to build her as a platform tho you want a lot to scale her buff and whatever your damage subsume is

Like roar or smth

It doesn’t work like that with augur it’s only on casts

[abstract axle]

cant inject roar except over her 4

[wary forge]

Ye

[sullen nymph]

Nidus main here, about to get access to get the helemith segment that allows me to use my archon shards for my warframes, what archon buff am I looking for specifically? My two builds that I use is persistence and farming build I have arcane persistence and grace at r5

[outer glacier]

Thanks!

[wary forge]

I mean

U can subsume her 3

Wit nourish

[outer glacier]

Why can you only subsume Roar over her 4? I thought you could freely overwrite abilities (don't have the Helmith unlocked yet, so don't know).

[wary forge]

Well it depends casting speed is always good same with parkour

[velvet pulsar]

So apparently, this is the first damage redirection subsume?

[wary forge]

I guess yeah technically

[abstract axle]

this is mostly true, but there is a cluster of abilities that are considered universal damage buffs, and you can only have one. If the frame already has one, they can't inject another, except to override the first (which you never should)

[outer glacier]

Ah, gotcha.

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if Loki can switch teleport with Self Portrait

[craggy niche]

Im fairly sure you csn overwrite any ability in oraxia

[craggy niche]

No roar can go anywhere on oraxia

[mighty flare]

incorrect

[velvet pulsar]

Gravely wrong.

[craggy niche]

Why can nourish go anywhere?

[mighty flare]

de chose to give it a different classification

[velvet pulsar]

DE doesn't consider nourish as a damage subsume.

[craggy niche]

Oh thats dumb

[eternal prism]

oraxia shock trooper incident

[velvet pulsar]

Basically that electric spider pokemon

[stoic olive]

galvantula?

[undone dust]

joltik my beloved

[undone dust]

galvantula is for CHUDS we love tiny spider

[stoic olive]

😞

[undone dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447746224458563784/1479565082823229522/togif.gif

[eternal prism]

i really want check it after patch cuz nourish looks like give simillar buff (in damage) but shock trooper give small aoe

[craggy niche]

3m of devastation

[eternal prism]

If this is enough so that they at least don't die at lvl cap, it looks like her 2nd skill is useless now

[velvet pulsar]

Shock Trooper buffs scuttlers?

[eternal prism]

I was always too lazy to press it...

[eternal prism]

yes

also nourish

and eclipse

[velvet pulsar]

Well, it's time to archon stretch

[eternal prism]

secret energy god tech

[velvet pulsar]

Though I'd much rather prefer to use thermal transfer

[eternal prism]

Although without viral it looks like 2 dots won't be very strong...

[wary forge]

They gonn do more dmg with nourish like surely

[craggy niche]

Isn't the whole point of the skutttlers armor strip delivered via archon continuity and impact procs for mercy kiss

[eternal prism]

I'll check but I'm just curious because shock trooper gives them mini aoe

[velvet pulsar]

U gotta recast nourish on scuttler spawn vs thermal transfer where they get buff just by entering the field

[wary forge]

True but I mean as long as they are in range thy are gonna get hit by it an like ur gonna keep nourish up all the time always

[craggy niche]

And her 3 is 2.5x final damage modifier, i just don't really see oraxia being a frame that takes subsumes lol

At 300 str****

[eternal prism]

Skill 3 used to be super useless

cuz it not scale with lvl

[wary forge]

Depends u don’t need to subsume but 3 was the slot out cause her soldiers were just super mid

[velvet pulsar]

Except when in circuit

[eternal prism]

now it more useful then 2nd if spiders not die in cap

if they die... then 2nd still useful

[velvet pulsar]

Depending on the subsume, u can rid of her 1

[wary forge]

Now that they scale off enemy level they are a lot more appealing

[craggy niche]

Yeah one for nourish would be the only sensible subsume in my book

[eternal prism]

it give 1 sec invulnerability

for not hp tank oraxia it big deal

[wary forge]

Movement on the 1 is to good

[leaden owl]

Hey, in terms of Bo godroll riven, does -combo duration ruin it?

[velvet pulsar]

Nourish is a good replacement of her 1 if u don't wanna touch the ground again

[wary forge]

That’s like the main thing with Oraxia imo

[eternal prism]

2nd useless cuz u need spam it... low dur...

[craggy niche]

Its the same thing as shift when you're in 4

[wary forge]

Is her movement that’s what separate her form Sayrn

[wary forge]

Yep

[eternal prism]

I never pressed it no matter what it gave me

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, 1 forces her to ground

[wary forge]

Movement is why she’s fun for me I couldn’t get rid of it

[eternal prism]

secret build

[wary forge]

Most likely since it’s gonna be a big reduction since it’s high dispo generally u don’t wan to lose combo duration

[velvet pulsar]

More importantly now my gloom subsumed on her 1 for persistence build might heal her scuttlers more now

[wary forge]

Not a max rank p flow smh

-rep

[eternal prism]

im lazy

[craggy niche]

2 is too good of damamage multiolier to get rid of imo. Nothing can feasibly replace it

[eternal prism]

waste my endo🥺

[craggy niche]

1 at least can be substituted

[wary forge]

It was 3 before

[craggy niche]

But imo none of it needs to go, she's got a great kit

[wary forge]

Ye

[eternal prism]

I'm so lazy to press 2 it that it becomes useless because of it

[eternal prism]

except movement

[wary forge]

I love my budget Sayrn

[velvet pulsar]

I like this health tank version of saryn

[craggy niche]

Except being able to traverse 100m at 7m/s base lol

[wary forge]

Tri umbral persistence Sayrn def worth the investment

[eternal prism]

try kappa now

🥀

[wary forge]

It works but like just don’t waste ur umbra forma on that lol

[craggy niche]

Is this zoomer speak

[eternal prism]

no
kappa disruption

[velvet pulsar]

Kappa & Glorp are green.

[eternal prism]

try

[craggy niche]

Oh those maps are just ass imo lol. I hate moving around them on any char lol

[wary forge]

I can’t send my glorp emotes in here

[velvet pulsar]

Oraxia can still do normal parkour other than roll BTW

So you'll be just as fine

[eternal prism]

It's actually easier to use her ult to kill bosses
thats all...

[velvet pulsar]

Sending something green:

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-outer-space-gif-988837663270596515

[velvet pulsar]

DE Juice suspected me when I said I'll use ceiling latch in hard mode bosses

This emote:

[eternal prism]

I forgot what happens if the summoned pokemon gets into the nullifier field