builds-discussion

[eternal prism]

hm...influence from projectiles

[fierce lark]

so you can spread that all powerful radiation status

[eternal prism]

it also proc elec

only with this stance

at least with the second one I couldn't achieve the same result

[fierce lark]

yeah half the attack is normal ips, the other half is heat

reason i think you should only use influence on hate with shockyT

[cursive peak]

Do gas, blast, or elec benefit from faction?

[eternal prism]

ye
It just seemed strange that this could proc influence effect

[fierce lark]

gas and blast benefit twice, elec benefits twice and elec spread with influence benefits 3 times

[eternal prism]

At least with volt there are some crazy numbers appearing there

[fierce lark]

yeah cause shock trooper is adding % dmg to all parts of the melee

[eternal prism]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage/Gas_Damage
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage/Blast_Damage

[fierce lark]

both the direct and the aoe gain x % elec

[eternal prism]

With augment it should be even stronger...
but it cost 100plat...

[cursive peak]

How would I determine if blast or gas is a better choice? In either case, average proc is 1-2

[fierce lark]

blast is usually better, gas has a weird bug where the lingering clouds lose a bunch of damage after their host dies

[cursive peak]

Ahh, okay, that explains why that kept happening

[fierce lark]

but on something that does obnoxious amounts of damage per hit like gara's lash, gas works

i do afflictions gas on gara and the clouds tick for 6mil still

[eternal prism]

secret viral volt augment hate

[fierce lark]

eh i wouldn't bother with viral, less elec procs

you could add a 60 tox or cold mod though to make gas/blast

[cursive peak]

Isn't viral only helpful if you can get close to, if not a full, 10 stacks? For things that basically one-shot, I was under the impression that viral is kind of pointless

[eternal prism]

idk for projectiles volt shield also affect... and shock trooper can give me around 300% elec

I don't think this will have much of an impact compared to what the viral can cause

[fierce lark]

probably not, but influence procs do so much damage you don't need viral to wipe everything you touch

may as well just add even more aoe

if you're gonna add anything

[eternal prism]

but i want...
When I get an augment, I'd like to at least test it

On paper it looks funny

[gleaming vapor]

is anyone in here particularly dyslexic

i need to test sum

[vagrant whale]

Jesus i do 0 damage in archon hunts

6 year debuff is wild

[gleaming vapor]

pretty sure the attenuation was completely differernt 6 years ago

[vagrant whale]

Definitely

[gleaming vapor]

they cant be one shot anymore

[tardy lily]

Wdym 6yr debuff 😂😂😂

Took a break huh

[vagrant whale]

How do you damage in newer content nowadays

[tardy lily]

Corrosive n heat

[gleaming vapor]

incarnons

[vagrant whale]

Nah my laptop broke so that means no more warframe, and all my gear was when Sorties, Eidolon hunts, and Profit Taker was the hardest content

[cursive peak]

I'm not understanding the variance here...

Averaging about 20k per shot before MS, running a fulmin prime. Occasionally I hit for weird numbers as high as 38mil, but with no pattern or regularity I can figure out...

[tardy lily]

Oh boy well first off welcome back 2nd don't try out eta or eda until you get your bearings that is the true hard end game content eidolons, sorties n profit in my opinion seem to have received a nerf literally anything can kill them

[vagrant whale]

Yeah, and getting incarnons that got recommended to me are all timegated so i just have to wait i guess

Also i heard some of them need rivens like torid, burston, and magistar

[tardy lily]

Isn't the Magister currently in rotation?

[cursive peak]

Incarnons can be fun, but there are plenty of weapons without incarnons that slap mightily regardless

[tardy lily]

Ye

[vagrant whale]

Yep im still working on my sp circuit ranks after my dailies

[vagrant whale]

Can you give me some recommendations so i can work on em

[tardy lily]

Magistar,furis and strun

Those 3 are powerful asf

Or instead of furis use laetum

[vagrant whale]

I got the furis incarnon part last week but i didnt get the strun one

[tardy lily]

Wasn't it available too

[vagrant whale]

It was but i didnt pick it

Just the furis and something else

[tardy lily]

You took what latron

[cursive peak]

One of my favorites is the Phantasma. The prime isn't even measurably better than the base, and you can buy the blueprint for credits in market. For boss types, the trumna, sampotes, and fulmin are my current favorites

[vagrant whale]

I forgot cause i was just shotgun picking stuff from recommendations

So whatever i see from vets i pick regardless

So yea i might've been furis and latron

Which again, i heard need rivens

[tardy lily]

Latron is okay but I hate that bouncing incarnon considering not everywhere is going to be a small room

[vagrant whale]

Oh yeah i recently made the prime of it cause i love the base version even back then but still does no damage that i had to resort to using my archgun earlier

[cursive peak]

Phant is only good for mooks. Boss types have a cap on statuses, so it kind of falls off hard against them

[vagrant whale]

Ah i see

[cursive peak]

And oddly, Alad V

[tardy lily]

Nice pick but nowadays I only run 2 weapons laetum n Prados for parkour velocity n leave the heavy DMG to my warframe

[vagrant whale]

Aight imma check those out

[tardy lily]

So not good with ALOT of weapons

[vagrant whale]

Cause rn making incarnons is peak hell for me cause i absolutely abhore doing duviri

Operator/drifter combat just isnt it fam

[chrome badge]

i love doing isleweaver for clamps

[vagrant whale]

And the amount of drops and having to look for them is very annoying

[chrome badge]

15 per sp fragmentted kill

[cursive peak]

yeah, isleweaver for clamps if that's all you need, but not great for incarnon mats

[tardy lily]

Did that mission once on release, mission got bugged,left,when did a few trades n just bought the full bundle am not going back there

[chrome badge]

L ig?

you gotta remember sometimes that Warframe is still in beta

there will be bugs

[tardy lily]

Idk if the bugs were fixed or not but nope

[tardy lily]

Ik 😂

[cursive peak]

I honestly have bugged defections more than any other mission type anymore

[chrome badge]

and you go against oraxia, a big bug

honestly

never touched defection that much

only to clear both star charts but thats it

[tardy lily]

I rather play her she is fun with the whole spiderman swinging type shii

[chrome badge]

eh

i got rid of mine

[tardy lily]

?

[chrome badge]

prolly shouldn'tve subsumed my oraxia

[tardy lily]

Why she is fun to play with in cascade sometimes if I chose to host cause then my acid shells works

[fierce lark]

pretty much anything in the game that is good with a riven is good without a riven

the weapons mentioned don't need rivens at all, but they're broken as shit while having disgustingly high disposition, so their rivens are extremely expensive

[tardy lily]

She also goes crazy with the coda hema

[chrome badge]

tor-mid

brrrrrston

magicstar

[tardy lily]

Cheap to get weapons n for the rivens yeah go bankrupt

[chrome badge]

meh theres better incarnons imo

[tardy lily]

Ik they probably will never vault the burston prime but IF they do yeah that will be the most expensive primary prime weapon

[chrome badge]

def not going out of your way to acquire, by skipping the other ones

[tardy lily]

Update is tomorrow, 1.8k plat is ready I ain't doing that void Armageddon .2 mission type

[fierce lark]

torid & toxo are in a league of their own

[opal leaf]

Those 2, Burston and Torid doesn't need rivens to be strong.... You just need a good build and voila

[opal leaf]

I love them Torid the trash killer and toxo the boss killer

[cursive peak]

Can't wait to get my hands on the kuva ghoulsaw

[opal leaf]

Is it good? Ghoulsaw

[chrome badge]

its wacky

[opal leaf]

How wacky

[chrome badge]

you can ride on it

[opal leaf]

Oooo

[chrome badge]

you can hold it like a chainsaw and just mow thru enemies

[opal leaf]

Sounds fun

[chrome badge]

itt won't be

especially not when Rebb says that liches will be able to ride on the ghoulsaw

as in you will get run over and staggered

[opal leaf]

.... Bruh I was about to imagine my self swerving in a Ghoul saw ;~;

[green gyro]

no but it has cool animations

[opal leaf]

Oh

Nice

[coral crest]

We are getting Kuva Ghoulsaw with Shadowgrapher

Oh wait messages didn't load

:(

Kuva Ghoulsaw might be much better

[ivory plover]

Hey is Nautilus good for nova or is their something better cause rn i have the helmith kubrow :)

[opal leaf]

Depends on what you like

You want a damaging dog that jumps around? Or a Sentinel that gathers enemies around and priming them?

[ivory plover]

Wym priming sorry I dont really use the sentinels cause I can never think of a good build for it and I also think last time I played it didnt like how the Sentinel took up a bit of the screen 😭

[opal leaf]

Oh in other words

Sentinels are good with applying status effects on enemies, not bc of damage but by applying it onlh

Hence the word Priming

[solemn plaza]

hello chat, how do i play cyte

[fierce lark]

press 1 to buff headshots, press 3 and land headshots, press 2 with the desired element selected and keep doing so whenever you need to reload, press 4 to equip comically large bang

[solemn plaza]

ty, i've heard sobek & zarr is good with him, is there any elements that works better for those gun or do i just go with electric?

[fierce lark]

the “optimal” modding config on him will pmuch always be electric

he likes to run a bunch of primary electric dmg archon shards

for the forced dot

but also you don’t actually have to mod elec on the gun because of that

(if you have shards)

[ivory plover]

I mean status would probably be good

But i was just asking cause they said alot of people like using Nautilus with nova

[fierce lark]

if you don’t care about the neutralizer you can subsume nourish over it, replace viral on the gun with more electric or elementalist/bane/more damage

[solemn plaza]

alright, thanks a lot man
i think i'll keep his 4th for now

[opal leaf]

Think of that for a sec and look at Nova's skill

If it you think it benefits or supports her, then use her

In my opinion, I would say use Naut for Nova solely bc... The Kubrow cannot do anything aside..... Attack in small amount.

I mean unless you have the Mecha set

[quiet laurel]

@kind void

[opal leaf]

How's my Dagath Build :3

Do I need more duration ?

[ivory plover]

My kubrow keeps dying 😭😭
It doesnt do terrible damage but I have to constantly revive it which can get annoying 😭

But that makes sense :)

[opal leaf]

Hahahah upgrade Calculated Redirection for your kubrow

[opal leaf]

Is it OK to ask what progress are you in in the game? Are you in the "hard mode" the game? (steel path)

[ivory plover]

Im in sp but I do alot of hex bounties lately

[opal leaf]

Yeah you need Calculated Redirection, at lesst

It helps

And use duplex mod to clone the Kubrow so most enemies won't focus in your main kubrow

[ivory plover]

Ohhh ok ok

[kind shore]

Guys these builds are peak right?

[opal leaf]

Not peak

But it's good, I assume your not in the hard mode (steel path) yet

[kind shore]

... thats my sp build 🤣

[stoic olive]

thats not his sp builds

hes trolling

[kind shore]

The titania one is

[opal leaf]

You don't need... Redirection

Especially on mekros

Nor Vigor (actually Vigor for Nekros' Aug despoil)

SLAP sheild of shadows and voila

Hold on

Where's Flow?
Equilibrium?

The main (not really) energy container

[kind shore]

Uhhhhh the shadow realm

[violet silo]

mekros

[opal leaf]

Oh shut up XDDD

[kind shore]

I was just a bozo and forgot my energy mods

[violet silo]

mesecrate their modies

[opal leaf]

Bro

This is a troll build fr fr

I don't believe this is an SP build XDDDD

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-bnp-nekros-nekrosphilia-gif-20541382

[kind shore]

Hey i survive 90% of the time and thats all that matters 😭

My other warframes are built better i swear T-T

[opal leaf]

You can do that with... Just shield of shadows a d adaptation

That alone can survive

I would go durstion tho

[red moat]

How does one go about making a melee oriented Inaros? I am finalizing a nikana zaw with contagion and I want to use it with Inaros prime when I finish crafting him today. I am not particularly sure what subsume I should go for, roar/eclipse or wrathful advance. Or something else entirely

[opal leaf]

Jokes aside.. It can be improved

Remove Vigor and Redirection replace with Adaptation and Shield of Shadows

[kind shore]

Oki doki thx

[opal leaf]

Wrathful advance

It's an obvious (for me) take

When it comes to melee oriented (or melee platform) it's always wrathful advamce

[opal leaf]

And please put Flow and Equilibrium

[wary forge]

Wrathful/ellipse for Zaws do a rabvee or dorkham zaw if u want the most damage

Strike: Rabvee (Hammer),
Grip: Seekalla (+Speed, -Damage), Shtung (+Damage, -Speed)
Link: Vargeet II Jai (+Speed, -Damage), Vargeet II Ruhang (+Damage, -Speed)

[red moat]

I don't think I'll need the crit. The zaw already hits orange-red crits at +10 combo. Wrathful makes red crits consistent at lower combo counts from my testing with other Warframes (health tank excal umbra)

[opal leaf]

Then you already know your answer

[wary forge]

U want wrathful for contagion Zaws since they don’t have good Crit stat base an u just build for full damage

U want wrathful sorry

Zaws are super broken so yeah if u want to invest in them I would

[opal leaf]

What are zaws even? ;~;

[wary forge]

Well if u use exodia contagion they are basically just Glaives

There’s just custom melees you can make they have their own you unique arcanes that they can equip similar to kit guns

[opal leaf]

Ah....

[wary forge]

Exodia contagion is the main one it allows you to throw a projectile

[opal leaf]

Alright where is this wiki... Bc what are those words XDDD

[wary forge]

And that projectile is multiplicative damage scaling exodia contagion by itself adds 400% multi damage to the projectile an not to mention all the other buffs

[opal leaf]

Oh it's Just self created melees

[red moat]

With sacrificial steel, blood rush and a gladiator mod you can reach orange crits and some red crits. Not sure about doing the same with galvanized steel since you get half as much crit compared to sacrificial steel

[weary lily]

Basmu augment seems insane

[wary forge]

You don’t go blood rush

Like I said u want to build Zaws it’s pretty much just raw damage

Riven would be a faction mod/gladiator might

Attack speed increases how fast you throw the projectile

[red moat]

Condition overload only affects the projectile not the aoe. What would be a good alternative for it?

[wary forge]

Yeah just hit the projectile

[red moat]

Unless you're trying to snipe mobs with the projectile 🤷

[wary forge]

I mean I guess a faction damage mod

It’s mainly there for single target cause u clear just fine with this

But like if a acolyte spawns or your doing some boss

This can just one shot them

[red moat]

Okay so wrathful advance and mainly damage mods on the zaw

[wary forge]

Yeah

Ideally you want to use another buff like eclipse,vex armor, shroud of dynor etc combined with wrathful to really make the damage insane

But for like most of the content u don’t even need that much damage

[red moat]

I'll keep it in mind

I'll experiment with different subsumes but the first thing I'm making with Inaros is that build

[vagrant whale]

Anyone got a meta magistar build with no riven?

[wary forge]

Are you sacti or normal

Cause it’s different builds

[vagrant whale]

I heard sancti slam build is the most used recently

[wary forge]

Both are good just different builds

[vagrant whale]

I only built a sancti magistar rn so ill take that

[trim finch]

Is valence bonus impactful enough that I should spend the heartcells on the 60% rad Dual Torx available today while having one already with 25.1%?

[wary forge]

also nira mods in ur warframe if u want even more damage this will already one shot everything tho

[violet silo]

yes

[vagrant whale]

Ill look up nira mods thanks

[wary forge]

yes

[violet silo]

that's like running a mod that adds 25% of an element vs 60%

[trim finch]

Mkay. Coda liches aren't too rough anyway so I can get more before the bubonico releases tomorrow

[wary forge]

oh yeah i gotta do a lich today for that

i would get the 60% torx if u dont want to use it

its jsut nice to have if u do decide u want to use it

[trim finch]

seems interesting enough to be worth rebuying. had 18 cells lying around so it's not like I had to rush to a decision

[drowsy herald]

It's interesting but i don't wanna spend 5 forma changing the the bonus to heat.radiation is a deal breaker

[wary forge]

well then i dont what to say then lol

[drowsy herald]

I think the requirement for 5 forma to change valence bonus shouldn't be there

[umbral knoll]

the best exilus mod for Dante?

Preparation or Speed Drift? I have already a Yellow Shard, but don't want to waste another since dante casts fast enough for me

[vital kiln]

hi new player here just asking how to improve my build on nataruk

[wary forge]

thats fine

[umbral knoll]

my eyes, could you pls send a screenshot from windows?

Win + Shift + S

[wary forge]

thats all ur gonna need

[wary forge]

parkour is really never bad if i dont know what to go i go parkour

[umbral knoll]

I don't care tbh.. Speed is not that important for me

I will probably stay with Preparation ,because I have low ability efficiency

[wary forge]

could go something lioke vigilante persuit for the enemy radar

[umbral knoll]

I already have it on my Panzer Vulpa

I just wonder where to put forma, I don't know lol!

[umbral knoll]

is this build very good!?

[wary forge]

u want to go combat disicple if ur gonna run avenger

[eternal prism]

there's simply nothing to put in its place

[umbral knoll]

you sure? What about running overguard all the time and it counts as Avenger activation?

[muted estuary]

anyone want to share your Bubonico build, thanks

[eternal prism]

yes he sure

[wary forge]

yeah well u have to get hit in order for that combat just makess it proc no matter what

its jsut mroe consistent

[eternal prism]

u cant proc avnger without it

[umbral knoll]

bruh, lets try.. but what about killing myself then? I don't have dmg reduction like in gara?

[eternal prism]

or u not hp tank

[eternal prism]

just use equilibrium

[wary forge]

its not gonna kill u it does daamge to the overguard

[umbral knoll]

is it enough?

[eternal prism]

more then enough

[kind shore]

peak nekros build right guys T-T

[wary forge]

if u have overguard combat disipline is gonna do damage to it and dante gets overguard on kill

[eternal prism]

u can use discipl r0 also

[wary forge]

so u wont lose hp

[umbral knoll]

but how does Avenger get activated that way?

[eternal prism]

Overall, there's not much of a difference. It's quite difficult to die from it

[umbral knoll]

does it work on Overguard then or not?

[lavish orbit]

Dante gets overguard with his ability*

[wary forge]

if ur no subsume u dont really need duration at all thats fine ur not gonne die with that

[wary forge]

you get a kill and it does damage to you

[half anvil]

hi glorp

[wary forge]

qt tag

[half anvil]

what are u teaching here

[wary forge]

just helping them out

type

[half anvil]

type shi

[umbral knoll]

on overgurd it works..

[wary forge]

this guy asked for the dante build so i pinged nick

[half anvil]

share our wisdom

[umbral knoll]

omg, it works on overguard!

[umbral knoll]

any other tips on this build?

Primed Flow? change Preparation?

[wary forge]

i asked my friend who like onbly plays dante

ill send u his build when eh get sback to me cause idk what he builds tbhj

[umbral knoll]

okay, thx so much!

[wary forge]

that build looks fine u really just need duration and strength for the more part

[umbral knoll]

yes, archon shards here they come 😆

[half anvil]

yea you need 5 tau orange for crit chance

[umbral knoll]

cast speed + strength

[wary forge]

😼

[eternal prism]

orange only for mesa

[wary forge]

oberon

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-annoying-stop-please-gif-9350910756886809113

[umbral knoll]

I use xoris, planning also Laetum and Phantasma Prime..

[half anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-lion-thinking-ragebait-rage-bait-monkey-gif-14090242814517187668

[wary forge]

dont listen to that guy

[umbral knoll]

kk

[wary forge]

anyone with a qt tag on there discord

[half anvil]

broo

[wary forge]

is a BIG stay away

[half anvil]

trust 5 tau orange is the only way for dante to do dmg

[wary forge]

let me ask nick

[half anvil]

you could also fit in one tau purple for melee dmg

[umbral knoll]

only? There arem ultiple ways lol

[half anvil]

but dw one is enough

[lavish orbit]

Orange is only on secondary based frames or on radiation ones right now

[eternal prism]

Its better to use toxocysts... theyre better in solo target...

[wary forge]

nick is at work i think ggs

[half anvil]

dont listen to that glorp tag guy, everyone with glorp tag is a glorp and doesn't know glorpshit

[wary forge]

glorp

[half anvil]

everyone get your magistar incarnons, it's magistar week 🔔🔔🔔

slam slam slam
slam slam slam be happy

[umbral knoll]

talking about archon shards.. Can I put one not tauforged, and then replace it later with tau one?? Is it I will lose it or can't replace?

[half anvil]

nah u dont lose any u can replace later

it just costs some resources to take them out

[umbral knoll]

I chose celestial moon

[eternal prism]

not see yareli here

[half anvil]

yareli slam 😭

[eternal prism]

yareli slam😎

[wary forge]

wait hes a spy maur

ive never seen this guy in cc

[half anvil]

ur right

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-deglove-degloving-speed-grolemcorp-gif-2628858460915389297

[half anvil]

5k messages here only 20 messages there 🥀

[wary forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1449080670671343861/1470150210180092206/boar_slander.gif

[eternal prism]

revenant top 1 frame for level cap

[half anvil]

revenant torid is HONESTLY best for level cap

[wary forge]

wtb grol torid riv 200p

[eternal prism]

no

[half anvil]

wts groll torid riven 150p

[wary forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ninja-ninjaishyper

[eternal prism]

😎

[wary forge]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-rage-anger-meme-gif-11741976053183870900

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162254708858167407/1368265067942121694/41154030c1f7dc46.gif

[half anvil]

kmf type shi

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[half anvil]

nah real immortality comes from psf

everyone knows that

[eternal prism]

u wrong

[wary forge]

vaz

[umbral knoll]

@wary forge ask Nick (your friend on dante main, right?): Has Noctua build impact of Noctua copies, not the 1st ability?

That's what I need for now

[wary forge]

hes got it all ahe only plays dante like legit

[chrome cedar]

How do I build up Nova? I just got her but idk what to do

[craggy niche]

Yeah ngl warfrsme is getting really exciting for me now because all the vaulted warfrsmes that I didn't get when I played before are coming now lol

[simple frost]

is there any good heat primer so i can abuse gauss's nuke?

[umbral knoll]

@simple frost Phantasma Prime?

Have you tried it, it melts..

[simple frost]

yeah
it melts so fast that i remember it as a good gun and not a primer lol

[kind shore]

hows this titania (REGULAR NOT PRIME) build

[simple frost]

fast deflection and redirection are pretty useless

fast deflection+aegis work on gauss
but pretty mid for other frames

[umbral knoll]

Primary Debilitate, I'm looking at you Debil..

[simple frost]

oh
yeah
i should get that

[umbral knoll]

it's very EASY

you get the old peace done and do the tower

SP, so you on 21 levels yoiu already have 5 rank

[simple frost]

yeah, i think i got like 500 or so item after bullying roathe weekly

time to trade it in

[craggy niche]

Get rid of blind rage and redirect for transient fortitude and augur secrets. Can also cram in augur message to make up for transient in there, her 2 and 1 is more than enough for survivability ya just gotta get used to using it

[simple frost]

probably change the aura and subsume something over s3 as well

-# tbh, nobody remembers what her s2+3 do

[eternal prism]

not only for gaus

vazarin 1 skill = gauss

[craggy niche]

Her 2 is really powerful its just clunky lol

[pallid quiver]

her 2 is a pretty nice buff / debuff iirc

[craggy niche]

At least it's got a 120 second duration to make up for clunky ness

[eternal prism]

corrosive aura and augur pact in any sec

I'm too lazy to change the aura myself

[wary forge]

thats jut no true

shield recharge mods work greeat on any frame with shields

fast deflect anmd vigilante vigor with arcane aegis is one of the best ways to survive

[safe falcon]

Anyone with a good verglas prime build please?

[wide verge]

what to upgrade

[eternal prism]

all

[wide verge]

what to upgrade first then

[eternal prism]

I don't know what build needs to be done so that it doesn't kill every one

[eternal prism]

vazarin then

1nd and 2n skill

and talons

[craggy niche]

I personally don't think that strategy is worth it on titania cuz she survives just fine off her base kit

[craggy niche]

Yo pistoleer is actually goated as hell

[bleak siren]

are these good on valkyr for now?

and if anyone up for help i would like to know in dm a bestbuild for revenant and sevagoth

[vagrant whale]

Is the boar prime incarnon good?

[queen sandal]

Hi guys if you please could vote here :3

#1477886221643415747 message

If your character is mentioned here or doesnt have a guide pls dm me so I can work on it

[eternal prism]

maybe
it fine atleast

[eternal prism]

here no yareli slam

[queen sandal]

#1471105782207746121 ?

[eternal prism]

it not yareli slam🥀

[lavish orbit]

When keles build guide

[queen sandal]

Huh

[queen sandal]

Oh.

Interesting

[lavish orbit]

Do you play the frames you share tutorials or do you gather informations about them by other players

[drowsy herald]

Upgrade the waybounds first

First you wanna unlock phoenix talons tho

[craggy niche]

If you like shotguns that moonlight as really strong chain beams

[wary forge]

On Titania it’s not needed for most content u don’t even any survivailbity just fly around and use ur 2 and u shouldn’t die

[wary forge]

Yes

[craggy niche]

Yeah that's what I'm saying she's pretty good as is

[wary forge]

Ur not using the incarnon that much

[craggy niche]

I use boar incarnon to proc as many bolts as possible with gyre

[wary forge]

Like the base boar is good u can go blast to clear with the incarnon

[craggy niche]

I go the crit path on her and it just floors whole rooms with chain beam lightning spam goodness 🤣

[wary forge]

Fine build u don’t need maglev tho if anything just go parkour

[craggy niche]

I need to get more tau violets going cuz I keep stealing two of her tau violets for my citrine, I'd also like two for my danse danse revolution rev

[bleak siren]

i mean i had to add something bc i formad it

[craggy niche]

He's saying just slap a yellow on that bad boi

[wary forge]

U don’t need the umbra forma if ur new just go the sacrifice mods and like blood rush and ur gonna be fine

Everything else is just whatever

[bleak siren]

damn

[wary forge]

High invest frame but she really will just carry u in everything

[bleak siren]

well thanks but rn sadly i have nothing goood to add

[green gyro]

I think umbral mods are just less damage on claws now no?

[wary forge]

Yeah like I said just go the sacrifice mods and blood rush

That’s really all u r gonna need

[wary forge]

Idk I just took that from the valkyr guide in cc lol

[green gyro]

galv steel should be better I think

you have so much cc already

maybe depends on how many shards you use

[wary forge]

If you’re new and got nothing sacrifice mods are gonna be better then most of the mods u have anyways

[pallid quiver]

does that even have synergy

[pallid quiver]

galv steel is better if ur cc is already high but if ur tryna get more cc or need more to begin with sac steel gives like double galv steel

[green gyro]

yes I know

but valk has 50% base cc and you have blood rush

[pallid quiver]

either ways for that valk build the statuses r lowkey not doing anything

might as well just focus on maxing out CC and CD instead

[pallid quiver]

whats spring loaded blade?

[wary forge]

Range mod

[pallid quiver]

double range mods?

[wary forge]

Yes

[pallid quiver]

fair shes got like no range

where do i get spring loaded?

[wary forge]

No idea I think it’s dropped in plains

It’s like 15p or something

[pallid quiver]

ah cool

[wary forge]

Yeah feel like u need all the range u can get

Plus u really don’t need any more damage

[wary forge]

That’s why u run exposure to force proc corrosive

The toxin mod is there to boost that damage

U could go influence claws I guess idk how good they are tho

[pallid quiver]

tbf my valkyr is at the point where i dont have enough damage yet, prolly cuz not all my mods are maxed (mod cap poverty and other things)

when i say enough damage i mean more for like the higher level stuff tho

[wary forge]

I find that hard to believe lowkey

That build I sent u can scale all the way up to level cap for like 95% of the game ur really only need like 6 mods

[pallid quiver]

my pressure n steel arent maxed

so it does a fair bit less

[wary forge]

Ye

[pallid quiver]

especially with cc

im not hitting my CC breakpoints yet

[wary forge]

I would def get those maxed they are good are pretty much every melee build

[pallid quiver]

yeah fair

credit poverty tho

every time baro comes around my credits magically disappear

perhaps its time to sell my harrow chassis

[wary forge]

It’s double credits this upcoming weekend I think

[fresh surge]

noooooo

get the honoria first

[undone dust]

doma thumpers on the plains

both tusk and narmer

[pallid quiver]

beautiful

techrot safes or index

i really hate index

[wary forge]

If u can just do safe

[pallid quiver]

but no chroma

[fresh surge]

techrot is way better than ind*x

[wary forge]

Oof then index it is

[pallid quiver]

ive been too lazy to build chroma

tbf i probably can get him built

the parts shouldnt be that bad to get

[fresh surge]

ouch

[pallid quiver]

techrot it is

[fresh surge]

just get the prime tbh

[pallid quiver]

poor

[fresh surge]

i assume he is cheap

[pallid quiver]

he is vaulted

[fresh surge]

how poor?

[pallid quiver]

anything vaulted is expensive lowkey

[pallid quiver]

quite poor

not desitute but like i got other sets im tryna get first

and i need buffer plat for slots 😭

[fresh surge]

yea slots eat a lot of plat

[wary forge]

If anything spend the plat on a credit booster

It stack with the event one

[fresh surge]

especialy if you like to keep useless stuff like i do

[wary forge]

Doing one index would get you like a mill

[pallid quiver]

[fresh surge]

more like 2

how much was base index high risk anyway?

[pallid quiver]

yeah ive been reluctant to sell weapons since i got buffer plat to spare

[fresh surge]

ok 1 million dunno why i thought it gave more

[pallid quiver]

imma just sit in a relay and hope for a credit booster

[wary forge]

@umbral knoll just do non primed mods and u should be good

[fresh surge]

i mean stack all 3

[umbral knoll]

Thank you! noctua on the left and Dante on the right, correct?

[wary forge]

Yes

[umbral knoll]

@wary forge ask him also about this Noctua impacting the embed form combining 2s, 3s and then 4s ability, not the first?

[pallid quiver]

i am NOT spending plat on getting more credits

[umbral knoll]

Like, when you press 2, 3, 4 , you can summon to every team member a noctua, and it also attacks

[fresh surge]

its like 40 plat and you can be set for the rest of the game

[umbral knoll]

does the build of Exalted impact that way?

[brittle sleet]

Wordwarden is affected by how you build Noctua, yes

iirc having Blast modded on Noctua makes a weird buggy interaction that boosts the Wordwarden fire rate as well

[wary forge]

U do it like that to proc secondary encumber

Doesnt really matter tho

But yeah just do that and dps as normal

You can also have the book just be primer if u want

Your 2>3>4 will add extra dps, and your 3>2>4 will shred enemy status resists (both sc and stat dmg) and keep your book dps scaling

[umbral knoll]

my Phantasma is Primer, I realized with Debilitate, I hit 40 heat statuses

[wary forge]

Cast 3>3>4 for crowd clear as needed

[umbral knoll]

I'm not in the game right now, using phone, but another question: Can I use my melee weapon when Noctua exalted 1s skill is active?

For example - Status Prime with Noctua, and then Xoris destroys everything?

If I would ofc drop Phantasma

just wondering about Phantasma usage

[pallid quiver]

is phantasma good as a dps weapon beyond being a primer?

[umbral knoll]

Definitely! I guess once you stack up two galv mods, then you should melt

EVERYTHING except status-immune enemies

[pallid quiver]

ah cool, do i build it for the viral heat or

and do i only spec into statuses or go for some crit scaling too

[umbral knoll]

I can send yoiu my build, @eternal prism can also help you so much!!

[umbral knoll]

Phant has low crits AFAIK, it's just nice addition, rather than main focus

[pallid quiver]

ah cool, so i dont scale the CC and just put some CD mults on with the free slots?

[umbral knoll]

I don't use even Critical Dmg, if that's what you mean.. Let me enter the game and ss my build

@pallid quiver

I don't have Simulacrum yet, but on 150 it's very good

[pallid quiver]

how far does this scale up to?

im missing shell shock but i can probably swap out cleanse grineer for base damage

[brittle sleet]

Phantasma is definitely an all status weapon

[wary forge]

Nice build

[umbral knoll]

well, a lot I guess. I'm not too experienced yet, but as I saw in Hunkpain demo (a little different build), shreds anyway

[brittle sleet]

https://overframe.gg/build/374667/phantasma-prime/phantastic-phantasma-steel-path-face-melter-with-variant-options/ for more example

[wary forge]

I believe so

You can have your book just floot and prime for you yes that’s why slam Dante works

[fresh surge]

some blud will still put hunter mu mu on it

[umbral knoll]

slam?

[fresh surge]

and call it a day

[umbral knoll]

hunter munitions?

[wary forge]

Yeah slam melees

[fresh surge]

yup

[wary forge]

Like magistar arca Titron

Mire what ever

[pallid quiver]

im guessing all of the different statuses are there to stack gunco?

[brittle sleet]

Also to directly answer this question, yes, just like with any exalted you can freely swap to the weapons that it's not overwriting, only problem is while you melee it'll still be draining energy

[umbral knoll]

can I drop Phatnasma if I have Panzer Vulpa and Noctua built up for priming at once??

[wary forge]

Yes

[brittle sleet]

Yesn't, viral+elec is just good and magnetic strafe provides a good damage element AND extra elec procs AND fire rate

[wary forge]

You can play Dante as a weapons platform

[pallid quiver]

moreso the rad

[brittle sleet]

Technically speaking if you wanted the most variety to your status procs you'd run heat viral

[wary forge]

Like you can subsume roar on your 1

[brittle sleet]

Radiation is innate on Phantasma if that's what you mean

[wary forge]

And then just have your book prime and then boom u got a great platformer

[umbral knoll]

yeah

[pallid quiver]

im boutta get dante just to eat him and make a caster nezha

does caster nezha need ability str at all or is it just range and eff

[brittle sleet]

Temple is the better subsume option for caster nuke Nezha

Str helps since you're abusing procs

[pallid quiver]

i mean why do one when i can do both

[umbral knoll]

innate? Wdym?

[brittle sleet]

It's just duration you dump

[wary forge]

He really is a great frame he can do it all platform be a caster an support ur team

[pallid quiver]

is the temple farm annoying or

[brittle sleet]

It is one of the damage types that the weapon has without mods

Temple farm isn't bad especially since it's defense and often has bounties on it

[queen sandal]

last time i send it for today since its a week long poll

Please vote her if you can (you can choose multiple answers)

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[brittle sleet]

My girlfriend got stupid lucky and had two binge sessions back to back which got all of the parts in like an hour and a half lol

[pallid quiver]

tbf one of my biggest issues with most of my frames rn thats keeping me from enjoying solo SP is energy economy on solo missions

like i just run out of energy to keep my survivability or abilities up

[queen sandal]

also we cooked on the ember guide please give it a fire emoji or something 🙏

[umbral knoll]

yeah, me too!

[pallid quiver]

and then im just hoping my furis kills shit fast enough

[brittle sleet]

Nezha gets to build into energy economy a decent bit between Equilibrium and low duration high efficiency thankfully

[pallid quiver]

so max fleeting expertise is what im hearing

[brittle sleet]

Yuh

[pallid quiver]

blind rage on nezha or nah

cuz whenever i use overextended i feel a need to compensate for it with blind rage too

so im like do i just slap both on and eat my eff or build range another way

[brittle sleet]

Yes

https://overframe.gg/build/637629/nezha-prime/pyrotechnics-thermal-sunder-nezha-nuke/ usual nuke build

[pallid quiver]

hmm i have not ever seen an arcane steadfast

in my life

[umbral knoll]

I need answer once again: If i mod noctua and Panzer well, can I still do very well without Phantasma?

[pallid quiver]

oh that reminds me i gotta go and grind out base gauss 😭

[wary forge]

yes

[brittle sleet]

Modding Noctua and your Panzer won't make your Phantasma less effective, even if you don't make them all synergize

[umbral knoll]

Yes, I know. Just more statuses

[wary forge]

i think hes just asking if he can use noc as a primer with his companion and yyes u can do that

[brittle sleet]

If you were to try for synergy, Noctua as DPS would be the recommended focus while Phantasma and your Panzer primed

Though Panzers aren't really recommended primer companions

They're kinda just the jack of all trades, or revival specialist

[umbral knoll]

Xoris is my DPS right now 😆

[fresh surge]

get to it then

[pallid quiver]

pain and suffering

[brittle sleet]

Doesn't come up too often and could be replaced for sure, farmable from Citrine's nonsense exclusively I think

[umbral knoll]

1. I stack statuses with phntasma
2. I explode with Xoris..

that's the logic I use

[wary forge]

that works doesnt matter waht frame u do that on

[pallid quiver]

especially if the teammate refuses to help and spends half the time just sitting around 3 keys without picking them up

[fresh surge]

cant be that bad

[brittle sleet]

Never enough priming and Noctua and Panzer will help for sure

[pallid quiver]

mfw i run in pubs and theres another dude there but hes not helpful at all so im basically solo

[wary forge]

phatasma is a top 3 primer for primaries

[brittle sleet]

Shivering Contagion can be a really fun mod to put on your primer primaries but I can't remember if shotguns can use it or not

[umbral knoll]

hahaha, yeah, I think.. Will Laetum fit well if some boss or specific enemy is immune to status?

[pallid quiver]

is gotva a primer or a dps

[fresh surge]

classic pub expeirence

[brittle sleet]

Laetum is indeed one of the DPS kings

Gotva is DPS

[fresh surge]

better than pub spy archon

[pallid quiver]

need me some dedicated pro gamers to carry me in farms

[fresh surge]

every weapon can be dps if you are brave enough

[pallid quiver]

is coda pox good or

i know people say the stug is like dogwater

but what about the pox

[umbral knoll]

yeah.. As I see, my whole build = Dante, Phantasma, Xoris, noctua, Panzer Vulpa.. Will be all for status, but I guess there are some enemies immune to statuses, correct?

[fresh surge]

stug is a classic meme for being the worst weapon

never used pox tbh but its coda so its prob usable at the very least

[pallid quiver]

true coda pathocyst is like a viral xoris

[fresh surge]

you got any parts for him already?

[pallid quiver]

i think like 1

[fresh surge]

get torxica its 60% this week

[pallid quiver]

did a 8 round disruption

[pallid quiver]

i did

coda lich runs r so fast lol

[fresh surge]

good

[pallid quiver]

got it done in like 1.5 hours

[fresh surge]

yea coda are way faster imo

bc liches dont wanna spawn half the time

[pallid quiver]

yeah and the 3 necessary requiems in the correct order

making u need to get super lucky

[small mason]

someone have a really but really good titania Dex pixia build??

[pallid quiver]

or take 10 years to figure out the sequence

[deep grotto]

Me when 200% crit chance:

[small mason]

yes

[pallid quiver]

lowkey i just need more potatoes and forma

mod capacity poverty is real

[deep grotto]

There was a forma invasion a couple days ago

There should also be one in the calendar

Potatoes, that is

[pallid quiver]

tbf i have a fair few forma blueprints im just bottlenecked at orokin cells

cuz steel path solo is no bueno

[brittle sleet]

Coda Pox is a status secondary meaning it also gets to abuse Enervate, and its lingering hitboxes make Enervate EXTRA abusable

[pallid quiver]

wait what do status secondaries have to do with enervate

isnt that a crit multiplier

[analog stirrup]

Enervate will just make them crit viable, becoming the best of both worlds

[pallid quiver]

ohhh

then why did people say its not worth it on furis?

[analog stirrup]

Cause enervate is useless or gives very little on weapons that are already crit viable

[fresh surge]

nukor moment

[pallid quiver]

ah ok

so i wanna put enervate on anything with super low cc

[analog stirrup]

If the weapon already does consistent orange crits then enervate will be doing nothing

[fresh surge]

kinda?

[analog stirrup]

if the crit damage is ok, its an option

[fresh surge]

it's also wonky on exalted weapons

[analog stirrup]

or if the weapon has a fast firing (or multiple dots to work with)

[pallid quiver]

so i could put it on regs prime

is what im hearing

[analog stirrup]

its an option

[pallid quiver]

is there a better option for regs

[fresh surge]

you mean mesa?

[abstract axle]

i'd recommend against it. Fortifier is the strongest option

[pallid quiver]

oh right

[analog stirrup]

fortifier is the go-to but enervate works fine

[pallid quiver]

cuz she does have massive survivability issues

[fresh surge]

enervate isn't that good on mesa bc you use orange shards for cc anyway

since she doesn't scale that well with str

[analog stirrup]

once you have shards, ye... deppends on where you are

[fresh surge]

also hot shot

or right kinda forgot about that

mb

[pallid quiver]

i do have shards but not a lot

[analog stirrup]

not everyone is at end-game :p

[pallid quiver]

oh so i shouldnt be putting much str on her?

more dur and eff?

and uh whats it called

survivability

[fresh surge]

mesa guns are the only exalted weapon where str works like base dmg mods

[abstract axle]

Strength isn't bad, but it stacks additively with weapon damage

[pallid quiver]

so her guns do not need base dmg mods then

if i have str on her

[fresh surge]

meaning it's addtitive to stuff like hornet strike so that's why she doesn't need it

[abstract axle]

yeah

[fresh surge]

yes but it's easier to get base dmg from mods

[pallid quiver]

so if i keep her at neutral str with just like 1 precision intensify

[fresh surge]

unless your subsume requires a lot of str use enough str to cap shatter shield buff and you are good to go tbh

[pallid quiver]

then i can just build full eff and dur

speaking of

baro needs to get a primed flow soon

that thing looks so useful

[fresh surge]

it is

[mighty flare]

no theres also lizzie too

[fresh surge]

lizzie works like that?

[mighty flare]

yes

[fresh surge]

didn't knew

the only other gimick i know is that jade alt-fire doesn't scale with base dmg mods

and other stuff

[pallid quiver]

do people use jade altfire much?

[abstract axle]

keep in mind, efficiency and duration do the same thing for her 4, so they have diminishing returns. If you have trouble maintaining 4 you might want other things that help

[fresh surge]

i do

[pallid quiver]

or just the base fire

[abstract axle]

the altfire is much better, if you can keep up the energy cost

[fresh surge]

you need dedicated build for alt-fire imo

[pallid quiver]

oh fr? they both do the same thing?

[fresh surge]

but it's better

imo

[pallid quiver]

i thought eff was the initial cost while dur was the drain

[pallid quiver]

yeah i cannot lol

[mighty flare]

main/alt modes use different stats so its hard to use both effectively

[pallid quiver]

im at the stage where i have horrendous energy economy on most of my frames

[abstract axle]

do you have focus schools? if so, crutch zenurik

[fresh surge]

or you can just use 175% efficency build for her

[pallid quiver]

im farming the other ones rn

ive been a zenurik crutch for too long

[fresh surge]

zenurik won't help with that

[pallid quiver]

true, do i need dur with that or is neutral dur fine

as long as its like not negative dur

[fresh surge]

bc 4 is channeled

[mighty flare]

neutral is fine, high efficiency is whats most helpful

[fresh surge]

this is what i am using for jade no subsume

duration is 138% with concentration molt will work fine too

[pallid quiver]

how does the concentration work btw

like is it applied to the casted ability

[fresh surge]

nope

[pallid quiver]

like more or less a flat passive buff

or do u cast one thing first then the next one gets buffed

[fresh surge]

yup

but with jade you need to spam 1 anyway

so it should be on pretty often

[pallid quiver]

her 1 is just damage and healing right

[abstract axle]

once you cast, you have 3 seconds of concentration, you can chain it, but the first ability wont have the buff

[pallid quiver]

oh and the mark u can explode

[fresh surge]

it marks enemies

then you detonate them with alt-fire

[pallid quiver]

oh so its infinitely refreshable without cd right

[abstract axle]

no, the biggest part is that it applies the mark, which grants 50% damage vulnerability

[fresh surge]

yup

[abstract axle]

correct, assuming you keep casting, the uptime is always

[pallid quiver]

so its good on casters

[fresh surge]

the biggest part is that alt-fire NEEDS mark

[pallid quiver]

when u dump dur or need a lot of dur

[mighty flare]

it applies damage vulnerability and increases the explosion radius of the alt-fire, its great

[fresh surge]

imagine fulmination worked on jade 4 alt fire

24m no LoS aoe

kinda

[pallid quiver]

jade would become hildy 2.0

[quick prism]

Can I quit the New War quest? Look i get it. The game ask for permission b4 you start and gives you fair warning. But it is impossible to complete on my device. If i were on pc it would be np but I don't have a pc anymore. I truly Do Not Care what it unlocks. I just want to get back to the normal game and play the current event and the updated coming tomorrow. BTW I play on the lowest possible settings and use a ps5 controller as the touch controls are impossible. At this point I'd be willing to pay all the plat I have (which is only 144p lol) to get someone to do it for me but that will never happen cuz it's like impossible since the 2fa would block it.

[analog stirrup]

can try asking support, no other way to cancel the quest

[quick prism]

@analog stirrup ty so do I do that on the forums or is it in game?

[analog stirrup]

#support-and-bugs
Or go to the main web page and post a ticket from there

all the way down

[quick prism]

@analog stirrup again ty have a great day

[craggy niche]

cyte moment

which one for here lol?

base for crit and stat are 12 and 36 respecitively

[eternal prism]

hm?

[eternal prism]

(elec phantazma better only if enemy without armor)

[craggy niche]

does a umbral mod get penalized in a omni slot?

[brittle sleet]

Thank you for reading the build

[brittle sleet]

Yes

[craggy niche]

oh shit i guess it doesnt lol i realized i could anser that myself

[brittle sleet]

Oh I read other way around

[craggy niche]

well that's good to know

[brittle sleet]

God it'd be so nice if Umbra polarity worked the opposite way too, not penalizing other slots

[craggy niche]

i'm going triumbral on wisp because i can lol

[brittle sleet]

Popular for a reason

[craggy niche]

it's almost worth it now that bellicose is a thing

wasn't before tho imo

[brittle sleet]

What does her mote HP regen get to with all of that stacked on? Be hilarious for Persistence to be afk sustainable on her like it can be on Inaros

[eternal prism]

knowing the person who makes the build, he doesn't understand that the elec phantasma is worse than heat
provided that the goal of both builds is to kill 1 target
that's why I said

[brittle sleet]

Base 30/s hm

[brittle sleet]

He does in fact state in the build description that heat is better single target DPS

[eternal prism]

elec also solo target
it doesn't matter

[craggy niche]

i like wisp but uhh my love for her is getting expensive lol

[brittle sleet]

Elec is an AoE status wdym single target?

[brittle sleet]

Not enough omni formas

[craggy niche]

nira's belongs in top right for the temporary and asstretch belongs in bottom right

[brittle sleet]

Need at least 3 more build slots for true love too

(I don't actually know how many build slots is the max per frame)

[craggy niche]

i'm gonna change that slot for nira's into omni tho so the umbral that i don't have formad can go there after i forma the one that vitality is in

[eternal prism]

3 meters aoe... that sounds like a joke

[craggy niche]

again nira's belongs in top right and augur belongs in top left i was just shuffling shit around lol

[brittle sleet]

Do with the information on the different statuses as you will

Frames with grouping abilities are calling elec a joke but in the "war crimes are hilarious" way

[craggy niche]

after i get done i'll have 13 formas into this bisch lmao

[brittle sleet]

Aim for 69 formas

[craggy niche]

one more for umbral, one more for omni, one more cuz i wanna forma aura cuz i cannn

[eternal prism]

I'd like to see people who actually go on missions to group enemies for elec status :/

[brittle sleet]

It's not about rationality it's about sending a message

You could play the game to see them

[analog stirrup]

yep...

[brittle sleet]

Average well-adjusted Warframe player

[craggy niche]

as far as builds go i only really like two builds so far for her and that's nourish wisp and unironically ophennum eyes lol

get molt augmented and growing power and all that nonsense up and it's like a second and a half strip on everything you can se

[brittle sleet]

Base 10% strip per second so probably closer to 2.5 seconds but still the fact it just goes on passively is gonna be pretty great

[craggy niche]

yee it's very handy and laxidazial on energy lol

especially considering wisp is mostly a melee frame for me

[midnight ether]

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[hollow ingot]

My current Protea Prime Build anything I should change or add ?

[fresh surge]

looks solid at a glance you might wanna use arcane concentration instead of the efficency up to preference tho

[noble depot]

can I improve

[earnest saddle]

improve what? the riven? the build itself?

because personally speaking, i don't see why you're running deadhead on an explosive weapon, especially when if memory serves the envoy is multico

a riven with a disposition of 1/5 is generally not worth slotting

[eternal prism]

but co not work for aoe

😨

only for direct hits

[tranquil plover]

is the zenith a good gun

can it work in eda and eta

[wide verge]

Is dual toxic good with torid or it is better with burston? (everything is incarnorn)

[fierce lark]

running fulmination instead of elementalist and viral instead of blast would improve the build a lot yeah

envoy is a terrible weapon for blast

also +1 on deadhead sucks, you really don't want to be trying to shoot heads with this

use merciless

[elfin marsh]

anyone know some good melee weapons for kullervo personally? (I know he can use a stick and it's good but still)

[remote bay]

anyone have a mag prime build?

[fierce lark]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Weapon_Comparison/Melee go down this list and sort by critical damage multiplier

if you want things that are uniquely better on kullervo

dual ichor incarnon is probably the most disgusting out of the list

[fickle whale]

what kind of mag prime build you looking for?👀

[remote bay]

preferably sp 👀

[fickle whale]

shards 5x tau abillity dmg. on elec + hystrix on elec. Instead of riven use pistol pestilence. One taps lvl cap demos and also working for groups

[slate condor]

Thoughts? Too squishy?

[fierce lark]

if you're gonna run two umbral you may as well run the third, atlas has reasonable base hp

you don't really need that much strength either, it's additive with melee damage mods and arcanes

arcane fury + umbral intensify should be plenty

[undone dust]

run 500% strength immediately

[fierce lark]

im always gonna be a shieldgate merchant for pseudo exalteds

your gameplay loop is spamming a button anyways so gating is free

[undone dust]

doesnt he also get immunity when casting landslide anyway

[fierce lark]

yes actually

[undone dust]

peak persistence platform actually trust

[fierce lark]

so building conventional tank on him makes even less sense

he has enough armor to run persistence with 1 shard and nothing else

but im running augur reach anyway so put the catashields in the bag

[undone dust]

are you running rubble heap too

[fierce lark]

at some point i’ll probably drop transient for cat shield, but i haven’t played in awhile

there has to be a reason i don’t have equi but i forger

[elfin marsh]

haven't heard of it, I'll check it out

[undone dust]

bro cant gate with landslide after 1400 rubble.. nerd..

[unique lava]

Silly question, which of these is better for the Cantare? I'm assuming it's the CD one, but better to check

[novel bear]

Definitely right

[unique lava]

Alright, tysm

[cinder quartz]

Hi, was just wondering what my last shard should be? i just got another Tau forged crimson one but not sure if i should wait and add another Tau forged Topaz one? thanks

[slate condor]

Yes sir

[slate condor]

Which should I change it for

[mighty flare]

tau topaz would be best if you can get them
otherwise, yellows for casting speed / parkour velocity / starting energy are all usful

[drifting gust]

hello, I was building a loadout and I kind of wanted some help with deciding my melee. So rn I got ash as my warframe, cedo prime or coda bassocyst as my primary and furis incarnon as my secondary, but Idk what to use as a melee or what my loadout is lacking for the melee to serve that purpose, could anyone help me?

[craggy niche]

arcane's are literally whatever you want to run

just spam crush, magnetize, breach every time you get a group and group them with pull, only shard investment i'd say you want is double yellow tau when you can afford it, both with cast speed, the rest are completely up to you

[hexed lodge]

You want your melee to serve as an additional damage weapon, or utility?
Not sure what to reccomend on the first, but for the second, maybe good ol' Praedos for mobility, Ruvox if you use enjoy Melee Cresendo, or the Amalgam mods from Furax or Ripkas for passive bonus effects.

[drifting gust]

I think the cedo and the furis already have enough damage, also ty I'll look into those

[craggy niche]

there's also okina incarnon for their passive 30 percent movement speed buff. i tend to like that better than parkour cuz it buffs everything rather than just one thing

[novel bear]

Praedos also buffs sprint speed

[craggy niche]

you can also look into rakta dark dagger if you wanna get weird with shield gating lol

[drifting gust]

I forgot that thing even existed lol

[craggy niche]

it's not super in the limelight but it's got some niche fun stuff

i use it on xaku and just hold it while my weapons are doing their thing and it primes viral and fills my energy up like every 30 seconds or whatever lol

[drifting gust]

that sounds fun lol, might try it someday

[craggy niche]

it also generates overshield and shield from radiation damage so if you slap electric and the iff mod on it you can use it as a shield gating influence stick lol

[craggy niche]

okinas buff everything 🤷 not saying they're better or worse i just like the passive better

[novel bear]

Praedos also buffs everything

Sprint and parkour combined are everything

[craggy niche]

lol no they are not

[novel bear]

What do they not buff?

[craggy niche]

channeled ability frames like jade or danse on rev

[novel bear]

Jade can roll

You are the only person who uses danse

[craggy niche]

she can also roll wayy faster than praedos buff off of double stacking amalgam diffusion and having okina's 30 percent passive apply to everything. regardless, not arguing bro, i just like the fact that okinas applies to everything, praedos applies to some things lol

[hexed lodge]

Praedos has all +sprint, +parkour and +slide active without activating incarnon.
Okina has +sprint and +parkour, but requires activating incarnon form

[craggy niche]

okina has passive +30 "movement"

in i off

[violet silo]

Okina has a better incarnon, but praedos has a better passive

[novel bear]

You just said praedos doesn’t buff jade, now you’re backtracking
Also she gets +100% movement innate, so okina has diminishing returns

[craggy niche]

it's multiplicative lol

[quiet laurel]

just use 5x parkour velocity shards and kiss already

[craggy niche]

she is significantly faster with okinas equipped

[novel bear]

Source?

Because it’s not

[craggy niche]

actually using it rather than dweebing out about it on a discord lol

[novel bear]

No source then

[quiet laurel]

bros source is "trust me vro"

[craggy niche]

bro i'm not even trying to argue about this i literally just said i like okinas buffs better

lmao seriously some of ya'll need xanax

[hexed lodge]

Tru, but the point stands that if you just want a passive bonus while not using your melee, Praedos is the better choice.
Okina might be better, but only if you're actively using it (or have a really strong Crescendo user and don't forget to reactivate it but yk)

[novel bear]

You are arguing though

And spreading misinformation

[craggy niche]

am not

you keep going bro just let it go dog

also if i'm spreading misinformation you're doing it even worse

praedos does not buff walk speed or fixed rate channeled frames

[hexed lodge]

BAZ, let it go too

[quiet laurel]

"let it go"

🥀

[novel bear]

Nobody walks instead of sprinting lol
Unless an ability forces you into it, in which case you roll
Not trying to argue btw

Just saying

[craggy niche]

i personally just use amalgam diffusion to buff dodge speed on those frames, much higher buff and i still get the parkour AND i can still have access to the same parkour buff if i just smack a few things then hit center mouse button lol

[novel bear]

Dodge speed isn’t additive with parkour speed

[craggy niche]

parkour velocity increases dodge distance

so while they're not the same stat, they both buff the action

[hexed lodge]

iirc, +parkour speed (velocity?) increases the distance of your dodge and bullet jump, while +dodge speed reduces the animation length, right?

[novel bear]

Don’t know
The important part is they multiply

[craggy niche]

also movement speed directly influences most of the inportant aspects of what parkour velocity does as well and more because of increased momentum inheritance, the only things it doesn't effect is the speed while actively in bullet jump, jump height and wall dash

so okina has almost as much of a bonus as praedos passively as is, and has access to much higher buffs by just smashing a couple things and smashing mmb

[modest phoenix]

trinity build?

[errant storm]

Is this good for atlas landslide?

[bold warren]

Getting enough energy for my Volt Build is challenging to say the least and IDRK how to solve it.

[mighty flare]

Influence only wants electricity, nothing else
You want to mod for more status chance

[errant storm]

Would melee duplicate be better for raw damage?

[abstract axle]

I mean, technically, but influence is gonna cook any other option. It's so busted

[errant storm]

I’m mostly trying to build for as much crit damage as I can

[abstract axle]

the problem is that at 12x duplicates gonna shut off thanks to blood rush

[errant storm]

I did not know that

[abstract axle]

For a quick refresher, duplicate needs a yellow crit exactly to proc. if you orange or higher, it stops working

[mighty flare]

Atlas has too high cc with blood rush to use duplicates, exposure would be better

[mighty flare]

What’s your build?

[bold warren]

Sec

[abstract axle]

this is a pretty simple trinity build. Nothing is strictly mandatory, you are just maxing strength for extra link targets. if you have helminth, 1 and 4 are your options to subsume off. Grab a steroid of choice, or if you want to have fun, you can do cursed things by injecting decoy

[modest phoenix]

what do u mean by steroid of choice'? And thank u bro

[bold warren]

Sorry just focused on clearing Story, will post soon.

[mighty flare]

Cata shields with redirection and vampire leach?

[abstract axle]

a damage steroid. Roar, Xata's whisper, eclipse

[abstract axle]

oh wrong screenshot lol

I swap from redirect to cat for deep runs

[hexed lodge]

I think Melee exposure might be the better solution, it replaces your elemental and I see a lot of Atlas builds go for that.

[bold warren]

I also dunno whether or not to run Gladiator Vice.

Wrong Screenshot. Right one below.

Can anyone help?

[mighty flare]

Don’t use blind rage if you can’t sustain with it, try streamline

[bold warren]

I like Strength 😔 I like feeling strong.

[mighty flare]

You’re using a companion with synth deconstruct right?

[bold warren]

One moment

Yup.

[bold warren]

@mighty flare

[bold warren]

@quiet plover Scroll up.

[eternal arch]

What about targeting Augur Secrets?
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Augur_Secrets

Or seeing if you can pick up some Arcane Energize?
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Arcane_Energize

Alternatively, Zenurik's ability has energy regen has a fallback option.
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Focus/Zenurik#Wellspring

[modern vale]

Guys, what's better for Umbra? Scaling Strength (full strength and you find ways to contour the energy drain) or Crit Scaling? (Wrathful Advance and etc)

[bold warren]

Why Augur if I may ask? What makes Blind Rage so Energy Inefficient for me?

[opal leaf]

See that less Efficiency THAT blind Rage gives?

Yee

That's why

[bold warren]

Ohhhhhhhh

[opal leaf]

That's why as we said

If you still can't maintain your energy container, remove that

[bold warren]

How can I fix that whilst keeping Blind Rage?

[opal leaf]

It's a bit of... An invest ment

See Sean's comment?

I'll tell you rn, Expertise is a bit expensive

Zenurik is good for it

Or just use streamline

There are a lot of ways that I can give you but my tactic is really just removing Blind rage and rely on augur secrets

UNLESS

A frame has good Energy Refiller

Examples are (not ranked):

Gauss
Protea
Nokko
Caliban
Uriel
Etc.

[bold warren]

Yeah working on getting Auger

[opal leaf]

I want to say Dagath too but.... She is a but of an exception bc she can give 100% health orb that I can use as energy bc of Equi

[opal leaf]

Good

[bold warren]

Also what about Gladiator Vice?

Also is Insatiable a good mod for Nidus?

[craggy niche]

wait so can we choose our frame every week for decendia?

[violet silo]

uhh

you can just do it

[craggy niche]

when do the rewards refresh?

[violet silo]

every week

[craggy niche]

so now that i've done it i can just go straight to 21 and farm uriel?

[violet silo]

mhm

[craggy niche]

and every week you can just use any frame?

that's sick

jade kinda made that shit easy mode lol

aarggggghh there's a easy mode tier of rewards tooo

[sacred hedge]

Anyone got a good steel path Hate incarnon build

[toxic cypress]

anyone got a hespar or thalys build?

[wary forge]

No

[wary forge]

Literally just run equibrium if your neg efficiency

That’s gonna be good on like 90% of frame if u really need more just outsource it from your pet

[opal leaf]

He is still suffering that's why

[bold warren]

Why

[wary forge]

Really shouldn’t be especially with 184% duration

[wary forge]

U just don’t need it to get mutation stacks

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's the thing hahahahaha

That's why I let him not use Blind Rage for now bc he Is still suffering

[opal leaf]

Nidus is an immortal being that relies on enemies

Just spam one, connect the 3 on one enemy

And you will be unkillable for the rest of the mission

But he sucks on Bosses and everything

The only mod I would use for him is Teeming Vilurance bc.... To make Nidus a weapon platformer

[wary forge]

He’s just mid I don’t really think it’s worth to Invest in him if ur new

[opal leaf]

If your new? Yup

But if you have the knowledge and know how to prioritize frames? Sure go ahead XDDD

[wary forge]

I mean even just in general he’s the worst health tank

[opal leaf]

Overall, despite he is a mid frame for all people

He is undeniably good bc of Good CC, platforming and survivability

It's just someone can do better than him hahahahah

[wary forge]

His platform is so bad

[opal leaf]

I would agree by just a little

It's just bc of the conditions needed for him to be immortal

[wary forge]

And cc just doesn’t matter that much unless it’s on units that actually matters like eximus and stuff

[bold warren]

Increasing my Equil Rank Mod fixed my issue

[novel bear]

Lavos is the worst health tank
Or qorvex

[opal leaf]

I would say "so bad" but it's just... What you get out of him

Like I am confidently get red Crits and added damage

[opal leaf]

There you go

[wary forge]

Quorvex is the worst frame in the game

[opal leaf]

It won't stop me from trying him

Bc I don't believe in "worst and best" frames

[novel bear]

Skill issue

[opal leaf]

I hate ranking frames when you are in a "you can do all you want" game

Sounds like skill issue if that's the case

[wary forge]

Quorvex literally does nothing

[opal leaf]

I have skill issue on Xaku so I'm accepting that

[novel bear]

His 4 scales to cap?

[wary forge]

It just doesn’t tho