builds-discussion

[old marsh]

imagine if Yareli’s 1 was a subsume then both would take advantage of each other’s subsume

Since dmg vuln is multiplicative

[velvet pulsar]

Majority of the time subsumed damage vulnerability gets noticed by DE and they don't let that scale multiplicatively

We currently have like what? 3 dmg vulnerability subsumes?

I don't think any of them are multiplicative

[old marsh]

It is. Even without subsumes, Yareli’s 1 & 2 multiply

[craggy niche]

is webbed embrace not multiplicative?

[velvet pulsar]

They multiply with each other yes

What I'm saying is, oraxia also has more than 1 web carpet, that doesn't multiply with each other, likely because DE knew it'd be too powerful subsume

[old marsh]

Throw in Caliban’s 2 and that gets multiplied too

it is powerful but there r more OP methods

[velvet pulsar]

Never tested this

I guess they'll be multiplicative to each other

Which also means equinox can be good for boss fight

[warm obsidian]

Anyone got a Acceltra build

[mystic sphinx]

Build one for heat and viral

[hollow scarab]

is styanax good for damage? cuz i havent really been able to find a good build that doesnt need me to spam his 4 constantly to stay alive and its not really getting kills or setting them up well

[mighty flare]

good weapon platformer, 4 is not great

[hollow scarab]

well yeah i took it his 4 is more for just the OG but im lost on his abilities setting up or how to make him good for high level shit

probably cuz i cant mod him for shit and keep starting over

[mighty flare]

high level most ppl subsume off his 4 for like Nourish, then run catalyzing shields so each kill is a full gate from rally point
you can go high range & strength

[hollow scarab]

noted

[warm obsidian]

Ngl feels like Viral Slash is better that Heat

[hollow scarab]

depends on the enemy but sometimes yeah

[warm obsidian]

Keep getting more blast than anything

Even positioned the mods so that viral on 1st 2 and heat at last

[hollow scarab]

ok ngl this is SLIGHTLY tweaked from a vid. any tips to make it better?

[dire python]

looking for a good dojo or orbiter builder to help with my rank 10 clan

[candid kayak]

anyone has ivara steel path spy mission build?

[drowsy herald]

You're better off using wukong with auto quick hack subsumed

[velvet pulsar]

Or master's summons with security Override moa

[drowsy herald]

Do sisters give moa companions? Cause normal moas require fishing and mining in venus

I'd rather do a whole sister than mine and fish in venus

[velvet pulsar]

They only give hounds

Another reason why Moa are rarely used.

[drowsy herald]

You don't have to mine and fish for moas?

[candid kayak]

wukong cant bypass beams i think

[velvet pulsar]

He can

What he probably can't, is Janus Vor beams

[candid kayak]

can it bypass cameras and stuff?

can you give me a build only for spy mission

[velvet pulsar]

Cloud Walker is:

1. Completely invisible to cameras & drones & enemies.
2. Passes through lasers.
3. And can phase through enemies.

[hollow scarab]

this still feels really squishy (open slot is for primed redirection i just need a forma) like i cant get anywhere near my 35k og cap. i get like 10k and it feels like its all ripped off in like 2 seconds

[velvet pulsar]

I can't give precise build rn because the mobile companion app isn't working and I won't login into game yet.

But the basics of the build is to have as much duration as possible and to use Perspicacity subsume.

[candid kayak]

instead of perpicacity im gonna use cipher

[velvet pulsar]

Use the remaining slots to mod for ability efficiency and energy regeneration/energy max.

Maybe something like energy nexus.

I use arcane steadfast for easier spam but it can be hard to farm so I won't recommend it unless u can or did farm it

(also energy nexus won't work if ur exalted is active)

[candid kayak]

i have maxed one

[candid kayak]

ah got it

[hollow scarab]

or would this be better?

[velvet pulsar]

This might be better

[candid kayak]

ah shit i need to farm another kullervo

[hollow scarab]

i was using kullervo but i wanted smth a little less hyper focused and now im out here struggling to make him able to handle the same level

i might go back but i was drawn to the fact he might get a prime soon and the whole spartan thing

but for me hes just not really living up to the same level

[velvet pulsar]

Nah I was trying styanax out too but didn't feel much impressive yet

[candid kayak]

wait hes getting prime

?

[hollow scarab]

going off the schedule hes supposed to

[velvet pulsar]

It's not officially revealed yet

But we currently have 49 prime warframes

[hollow scarab]

but they go in order iirc so he SHOULD be next i think

[velvet pulsar]

And styanax was the 50th warframe

[candid kayak]

ah my resources!!

[velvet pulsar]

So naturally the 50th prime should be styanax

[candid kayak]

btw i didnt ever heard of stynax untill rumors came

[velvet pulsar]

Then you're much newer player

[candid kayak]

Im kinda

[velvet pulsar]

Styanax was given away for free just by logging-in during 2022 Veilbreaker update

He was technically my starter warframe

And he got his own short animation

[candid kayak]

why is he so unpopular

[velvet pulsar]

Kind of short anime style movie

[velvet pulsar]

Playstyle

[candid kayak]

lol i didnt know.lemme check

[candid kayak]

hard or what

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/4gi_9Ypouuc?si=lnQ-eASC8KlpWUTc

[hollow scarab]

its a badass animation and makes me want to play him more. but then i actually play him and realize hes kinda squishy for a sort of psudo tank

[velvet pulsar]

More like repetitive and kinda boring after a while.

Also janky/inconvenient after higher levels

[hollow scarab]

hes got weird og where like he can have it go pretty high but it also seems to get taken off way faster than other frames with og

and idk what that is about

[velvet pulsar]

Like he can have good survivability but that means you're either spamming his 4 or doing the good old shield gate but more comfortably via his 3 + weapons

[candid kayak]

i just checked hes cool tho

[hollow scarab]

cuz like rhino with 10k og nothing touches me. sty with 10k and it feels like its gone in like 4 seconds of fighting a corrupted heavy gunner squad

[candid kayak]

hes the only warframe with sheild and polearm i think

[hollow scarab]

eh.... he doesnt really get those

[candid kayak]

need rework i think

[velvet pulsar]

I'm more excited for Afentis Prime

[hollow scarab]

he can do a shield bash and a javalin throw and a javalin barrage

[candid kayak]

i hope devs give rework with prime

[velvet pulsar]

I'll be able to buff my other guns

[hollow scarab]

maybe. i mean vauban got one but he doesnt really need a rework. i feel like he kinda just needs some tweaks to make playing his og augment less repetetive and annoying

[candid kayak]

ngl i just don like his playstyle tbh

but im gonna build him one day i hope

[hollow scarab]

on paper hes super versatile and can be used with any playstyle but he kinda stuggles to actually do that build wise

tbh i think invul while using his 4 would fix the problem with his overguard. cuz one of the biggest problems is you dont get a ton per cast and the enemies can kinda just rip it all off while youre a giant sitting duck

[candid kayak]

I havent build him yet but watching some videos i don like his playsyle but anyway im gonna build him one day eventually

[candid kayak]

yup

[hollow scarab]

cuz while you are up there the enemies are kinda free to just kill you so it becomes an infinite tug of war for the one thing his augment actually does and usually you will run out of energy and health before the enemy dies to your 4

[candid kayak]

exactly

[hollow scarab]

can probably get around it with roar but thats still really annoying

[candid kayak]

also they need to reduce time of forma crafting

man i legit build 1 forma each day and use it

[hollow scarab]

yeah but thats not gonna happen. they tryna make some money off their free game and im fine with that tbh. (the 3 forma bundle is one of their top sellers)

[candid kayak]

legit

[hollow scarab]

yeah i give up. im just goin back to kullervo cuz i like being tanky without having to claw for it

[opal leaf]

Did I hear Vauban :33333

[hollow scarab]

lol

[opal leaf]

it's just Vauban is a great CC, I love him so much bc he has so much control over the battlefield

[drowsy herald]

Base vauban looks so uggy

[opal leaf]

He look like a corpus hahahah there is a reason I got excited and bought my first heirloom and that is Vaubans

His skin is butchered aside his heirloom hahahahaaha

[drowsy herald]

My first heirloom was valkyr because I love her and have mained her since I started playing

[opal leaf]

Naisu naisu!

[opal leaf]

Probably gonna wait for that other delux though
Probably Gauss ahahahah

[hollow scarab]

ok i swapped back to kullervo from styanax....

https://giphy.com/gifs/giffffr-tyttpGSdJWowdv47eCI

[drowsy herald]

Kullervo gang fr he's my second favourite

[hollow scarab]

the numbers

the NUMBERS

[drowsy herald]

I'm also getting another one to put his subsume on my valkyr

[opal leaf]

Kullervo is good good...... Not my type of frame tho

[hollow scarab]

its like going from clawing for being able to survive to laughing as the whole crowd struggles to do anything

[opal leaf]

I subsume my Kullervo before and never get an another one, i enjoyed Vauban and Loki more fr fr

[drowsy herald]

He's very good. And I have his armor up to 1500 for primary bulwark on every primary weapon i use

[hollow scarab]

i love sty's animation, his vibe, his theme but dear god he struggles

[opal leaf]

Naisu!

[hollow scarab]

i slapped roar on kullervo's 3. ik its odd but hear me out. 3, 2, 4, 1, spam e and dump the mag

[opal leaf]

When did he struggle?

Combine Styanax with Cedo Prime :3

[coral crest]

Don't you know? Styanax only has one attack

His 4

[opal leaf]

I Just love the combination

[drowsy herald]

I have nourish on him for energy mainly. I get enough damage

[opal leaf]

His 1 is good CC tho

[drowsy herald]

I don't think I will ever get syntax. I have done enough kahl for archon mods and kahl beacon

[hollow scarab]

i dont really like the cedo. its good but kinda not the kind of gun i like. but my struggle is that i hit 4, get like 5-10k og and then it just gets ripped off in like 3 seconds before i can even finish using my 4. not even on thr ground and they already break it. my cap was like 35k but there was no way i was making that

even mid air you could see him just clawing to try and keep SOMETHING while hes up there

[opal leaf]

Ah yeah it make sense

I only use his 4 if there are a lot of Crowd

I do 1, then 4

[drowsy herald]

I used cedo for the beginning of my steelpath with lavos and then towards the end I switched to glaxion and bassocyst and sometimes torid. I love the basssocyst

I also had the tenet arca plasmor but it sucks when compared to bassocyst

[opal leaf]

I need that Bass fr fr

[hollow scarab]

this was just testing in the simulacrum with a guaranteed crowd of 20 enemies

[drowsy herald]

You kinda need to use cedos alt for everything

[hollow scarab]

meanwhile kullervo i pop my 2 and just instantly hit 24k and keep it

[hollow scarab]

thats part of why i dont like it. im an AR/LMG kinda guy

the reconifex is kinda my favorite gun followed by the jupiter

[opal leaf]

I am quite different here... My guns are Acceltra, Cedo, Torid, and.... Dual Toxo :/

[drowsy herald]

I still remember trying to use it against the valkyr acolyte in early steelpath with lavos and I got cooked as she telepoted to me and one shot me

[hollow scarab]

i like the acceletra. but thats also technically an auto rifle. i just dont like the slow weapons

[opal leaf]

Slow weapons? Acceltra?

[hollow scarab]

i like sustained fire

[hollow scarab]

no the cedo

[opal leaf]

Oh ok ok

Sorry I misunderstood

[hollow scarab]

the acceletra is one i use.

[drowsy herald]

I still haven't got acceltra prime nor the normal one.i kinda regret selling the prime set I had when I was mr 8 . Got that one from relics

[opal leaf]

I like launchers most of the time... Like Torid

[drowsy herald]

Base torid is a poop shooter lol

[opal leaf]

...... Yall shut up please... I love Torid Incarnoff ;~;

[drowsy herald]

I don't believe you

Ok it can be good but it's so sluggy

[opal leaf]

I tried Torid Gas/Slash before.... It's the most uncomfortable build but the fun build I had XDDD

I won't recommend it thoigh

It's the one I use with Inaros or Hydroid hahahahaha so I have a an Armor stripper

It's soooo funny watching an Acolyte choke and melt

[drowsy herald]

Wow i thought armor stripping didn't work for them

[opal leaf]

Not... Really? Sometimes their orange health goes red so I guess it's successfully stripped hahahah

[drowsy herald]

I have seen the armor icon go off for them sometimes

I love that my bassocyst takes care of them easily

[opal leaf]

Broooo I need thagttttt

[drowsy herald]

Are you mr 17? Then just do a coda lich they are easy af

[hollow scarab]

i still need to get a build for the coda hema to be good for sp general use. i was gonna use the baza on oraxia but that is not happening cuz turns out their one primary smg is just.... eh

[drowsy herald]

Baza?

[drowsy herald]

It's crazy how it can do millions of damage. It out classes arca plasmor by a huge margin

[opal leaf]

I have 10 heart cells. I'm still 15 tho

[hollow scarab]

the baza prime? like their only primary full suto smg?

best i could make it and it STILL isnt great

so i switched and still its not great but thats cuz the build isnt done. i still need to forma it more so i can put an override on it

if anyone wants to leave coda hema tips or build for sp lmk. imma go die for a few hours

[eternal glacier]

What build is better for my okina prime

[fierce lark]

where augment

deadhead

[winter rune]

guys can someone help me wıth broken war meta build?

[echo pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-s-patrick-patrick-star-bottle-dumb-gif-1741625486363070335

[green gyro]

the 2nd

the first one sucks

[eternal glacier]

Thx

I just got okina and i wanna use him in steelpath

So idk a good build for him

[flat fossil]

Guys can i get someone help me what wrong i did to my build, got this new riven with stats +102,1% damage, +58,6% multishot, +38,2% crit dmg,-29% zoom,
With this build i can't even kill level 2000 enemies in voidcascade, Is it because i removed the Pistol Elementalist?

The second build was my old one and i managed to kill level 9999 even 10001 where is without the riven

On both plays i runned Uriel with Arcane hot shot, Arcane Concentration, with Panzer companion

[versed harbor]

ye the riven is rly bad

elementalist will do alot more

[flat fossil]

What I need for stats tho?

[versed harbor]

if u rly wanna use a riven on nukor it needs to replace the toxin mod

cuz otherwise the stats are just too low to do anything

[flat fossil]

Got it

[versed harbor]

not rly noticeable tho

[flat fossil]

So instead of having zoom to get toxin?

[versed harbor]

no the zoom is fine, a negative stat boosts the rest of your positives

and you can only have 2-3 positives and 1 negative

look for toxin and some combination of like crit dmg, fire rate, multi, status chance, stuff like that and a harmless negative

[flat fossil]

Got it

I will try to roll some to see what I will get

[versed harbor]

dmg and crit chance arent rly desirable either

[flat fossil]

So better to focus on multishot status chance and toxin?

[versed harbor]

some combination of those stats ye

[flat fossil]

Gotcha

[versed harbor]

its got rly bad riven dispo tho so u wont notice a massive difference vs no riven build

[flat fossil]

Will get some Kuva and roll when get home to see am I gonna be able to fix it 😭😭

[flat fossil]

Yea thats true

[solemn knoll]

Whats the best weapon to pair with vauban (if im using bastille)

[umbral knoll]

Should I build xoris the combo (Blood Rush, Volatile Rebound) or the explosion (Corrupt Charge, Volatile Quick Return) way?

[earnest saddle]

explosion, maintaining a combo is more trouble than it's worth for a glaive

[umbral knoll]

What build for it would you recommend?

Ninjase one?

[earnest saddle]

i don't know what that entails, but generally ppp, galv steel, vcr, melee elementalist are your go-tos

[umbral knoll]

is amalgam organ shatter worth ithe uhssle of Thermia Fractures?? This event is so hard

[earnest saddle]

it'll be worth it eventually, but since it comes back around you can make incremental progress towards the rewards and not burn yourself out on it

in the meantime, you can skip it in favor of something like killing blow

[violet silo]

can replace crit chance mods

[versed harbor]

it shouldnt run crit chance mods its nukor

rly low base

[violet silo]

crit dmg* mb

[warm inlet]

does anyone have a good khora prime looting build? i'm about to finish building it and i want to grind out the mods in the mean time

[compact cypress]

gauss weapon platform, swapped in prime flow over auger message coz i felt that low capacity annoying with EM

[violet silo]

pretty good

[pallid quiver]

High dur / range and her augment

Honestly if u want just slap on the augment and call it a day

[warm inlet]

lol okay thanks

[drowsy herald]

What augment?

[pallid quiver]

Pilfering strangledome

It’s a bit more qol if u build good energy economy with either flow or equi but its not necessary

[flat fossil]

@versed harbor is this valid?

[eternal prism]

left looks better...

[flat fossil]

its not those stats tho

+102,1% damage, +58,6% multishot, +38,2% crit dmg,-29% zoom

those are the real stats

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/my-love-story-with-yamada-kun-at-lv999-yamada-lv999-anime-yamada-lv999-akane-akane-confused-confused-anime-gif-16048699582846891922

[pallid quiver]

I mean yea but the stat pools itself are much better

Toxin + racist + damage is usually worse than CD + multi + damage

[spiral chasm]

Keep left and stop rerolling

Kinda hard to slot since the dispo is horrendous

[flat fossil]

Well yes but my dmg is kinda bad because i dont know where to put it

[flat fossil]

exactly

[spiral chasm]

You'd probably want a 2+1- for such a low dispo

But if the dispo wasnt bad that'd be s tier roll

[flat fossil]

Like this is my build but in one hand i need viral element but on other i need Pistol Elementalist

[pallid quiver]

That looks pretty strong no?

Get viral from another source

[flat fossil]

With that build i can't kill 2000 enemies at all

[spiral chasm]

It is strong but a bane or elementalist probably does have better scaling

[flat fossil]

Well i can use my Panzer for viral

[flat fossil]

Exactly but don't know where to squeeze the riven mod

[spiral chasm]

Could try external viral and slot in different mods and see how it feels

[pallid quiver]

Could remove the riven mod altogether and just spec fully for encumber

[flat fossil]

Yea but like that i am not gonna have Enervate

[eternal prism]

u can try uskos
This will free up 1 slot for you.

[naive hinge]

for mele whats best double reaction ?

[pallid quiver]

Is enervate proccing that often to be a must have

[eternal prism]

so much that no other arcana will give more damage

cuz nukor with mods have 12~ x crit

[pallid quiver]

Ah ok

[flat fossil]

But did i made the right choice like putting the riven like that tho?

[eternal prism]

i use it with uskos
cuz u already have 100% dmg in riven u can just use the toxin element and the cold mod
but this will require you to use uskos
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Zid-An_Uskos

[naive hinge]

..

[flat fossil]

Am i gonna be able to use Uskos on Madurai?

[eternal prism]

You can use it for any school

[undone dust]

yeah, you would just need mad's tauron strike

[eternal prism]

There probably isn't a more optimized build because it's hard to change anything

[flat fossil]

It's either with riven or without tbh

[eternal prism]

with riven should better

You just remove the heat mod and make it viral by using a weapon element and 1 mod

[flat fossil]

So basically to remove the Heat mod and put Pistol elementalist?

[eternal prism]

riven + uskos

If you don't plan to use uskos, then riven is probably useless

[flat fossil]

How uskos works tho am i not gonna need always to have Thauron strike activated?

[eternal prism]

just kill some enemi by operator

not strike

even 40% be enough

but that's for longer runs... it's definitely not suitable for quick missions

[flat fossil]

Well yea i want something for both situations

[eternal prism]

so i usually use an alternative to this and just use viral + elec without riven

It will still kill sp but it will be suitable for long runs thanks to uskos

[flat fossil]

Yea or i can just use my old build like this

[eternal prism]

If you want to use it just for short runs then it's not bad

[pallid quiver]

Is the uskos buff permanent

[eternal prism]

More versatile uses elec in the build (from weapon element)

[eternal prism]

until you die

it also does not mix with other elements

[flat fossil]

That's not good for level cap?

[pallid quiver]

So it’s not on a timer

[eternal prism]

it fine

For level cap, I would still recommend using uskos.

[pallid quiver]

That’s not bad if ur amp is strong ig

[flat fossil]

Tbh like i wrote earlier with that build i was able to kill enemies 9999 and 10001 but with the riven can't even kill level 2000 it's really struggling

[pallid quiver]

Requires me to have a tektolyst tho lol

[eternal prism]

with tauron u can even kill with vazarin

in cascades u can kill thraxes

[pallid quiver]

Time to make the 747

[eternal prism]

because it obliges you to use uskos

[pallid quiver]

Slowly

[eternal prism]

or heat mod atleast
viral + heat

[pallid quiver]

Cuz my little duck standing is nonexistent

[eternal prism]

547*

[pallid quiver]

What’s the fastest way to farm little duck standing?

[pallid quiver]

Don’t like the burst lowkey

[eternal prism]

big spider with credits

[eternal prism]

It's still better than all the others because it allows you to make mistakes

[flat fossil]

Okay i can get that mod but do i put the riven somewhere or better without it

[eternal prism]

7 often misses heads

if without uskos = without riven

It's difficult to replace anything there because of the small synergy

[flat fossil]

let me see if i can get it

[eternal prism]

for uskos but without riven

[flat fossil]

Damn have only 13

[flat fossil]

What is the main element?

[eternal prism]

elec

still can kill sp fast

[flat fossil]

What if i use magnetic for main

[eternal prism]

then u lose cd

[flat fossil]

Isn't magnetic gives cd as well?

basically my build is based on this one https://overframe.gg/build/232817/kuva-nukor/kuva-nukor-enervated-crit-dps-viral-heat-viral-electric/

It's literally the same but now when i got the riven there is no mod i can replace

[eternal prism]

if u use magnet like element in gun u probaly dont want use magnetic might

magnetic might give u crit damage

[flat fossil]

Yea that's my point

[pallid quiver]

Ehhhh

Idk man maybe I’ll just make 2 amps

So is Brofit taker farms just the best way to get standing for duck

[lean tendon]

Make 777,747,547,147,177

[quiet laurel]

yeah

[lean tendon]

Narmer Isoplast

[eternal prism]

If you want to use it for riven, you will have to replace the electric mod anyway

[pallid quiver]

Farming mats is gonna take forever

[lean tendon]

Profit Taker best if you can speedrun it but Narmer Isoplast is 2nd best imo

[flat fossil]

So basically in my case since i am using the heat mod just to remove that one and put the riven?

[lean tendon]

I only have 177 and 147

[pallid quiver]

Ah cool, what else do people use narmer isoplast for?

[quiet laurel]

I only have 177

I absolutely hate open world content

except the bosses

[eternal prism]

Something like that. But as I said, you need to use uskos for this.

[lean tendon]

You can also use it for Quills

[eternal prism]

or not use riven

[flat fossil]

Yea i got the uskos and this is the build

[lean tendon]

Other than those two syndicates, it's used for Caliban normal variant crafting + the archon weapns

[eternal prism]

what elemnt in nukor?

[flat fossil]

Magnetic main

[pallid quiver]

Beyond for standing tho?

[lean tendon]

^

[cerulean rune]

Is vermisplicer beter as secondary or primary ?

[pallid quiver]

Quills lowkey I have enough sentient cores for a lifetime

[eternal prism]

You'll probably lose damage compared to just the magnet mod

[pallid quiver]

Ah ok

[eternal prism]

cold/tox in weapon and + mod

it give u viral
cd + magnet

[flat fossil]

Should i change to heat in main stat?

[pallid quiver]

For kuva nukor what’s a good progen

[eternal prism]

it give u probably the biggest damage increase with uskos

[flat fossil]

Like that?

[eternal prism]

magnet mod over frostbite

[eternal prism]

heat/elec

[eternal prism]

for uskos now it fine

[lean tendon]

Why not magnetic progenitor and then just use Merciless Gunfight instead of Magnetic Might?

[eternal prism]

more "raw" damage
and he have base damage multishot cd -zoom riven

[pallid quiver]

No heat mod?

[eternal prism]

uskos instead heat mod

[flat fossil]

I will try this on void cascade and will share my experience am i gonna hit level cap or struggle xD

[pallid quiver]

Oh so uskos gives innate heat?

[eternal prism]

yes 250%

[lean tendon]

You get 45% cd + punch through to abuse the chain beam interaction

[eternal prism]

but then you lose in crit

cuz u need put another element status

[lean tendon]

Using Magnetic Progenitor, you lose 15% cd (Merciless Gunfight vs Magnetic Might) but gain 1.2 punch through (chain beam interaction) + able to put Primed Heated Charge/Primed Convulsion instead. I think that's a pretty good exchange.

[eternal prism]

he have riven base damage multishot and cd -zoom as i said

[lean tendon]

So?

[eternal prism]

he wants it to fit there

[lean tendon]

I'm not saying to remove the riven

Remove the Magnetic Might and use Magnetic Progenitor instead

And put Primed Heated Charge/Primed Convulsion for 165% heat/elec

[eternal prism]

If you change the magnet mod and use it as the main element, then you need put cold/tox instead

[lean tendon]

Or Merciless gunfight

[eternal prism]

for viral

This will only work if he has a viral from somewhere else

[flat fossil]

Is there any better ways to test the Nukor dmg instead of going of full run in void cascade?

[eternal prism]

just go in simulacroom

[flat fossil]

my simulacrum is bad

i didn't grind that

[lean tendon]

Ah yeah I can see the problem now. I would drop Pistol Elementalist but the heat progenitor build works.

Nah not Pistol Elementalist it's too good to drop. Maybe lethal torrent if you already have external sources of fire rate like reinforced bond or furax amalgam mod or a frame skill.

[eternal prism]

u want use another cd mod or...

heat?

In any case, you'll need at least 2 elemental mods here to add more heat

without buff it kill lvl cap without any problems. But we understand that there will be some buffs

corr +nourish for example

[opal leaf]

What site is this?

[eternal prism]

https://warframe-damage.com/

[opal leaf]

Ooooo

[eternal prism]

uskos in "ad custom stats"

at the very end

I had to ask the developer to add it... otherwise it's hard to calculate damage for specific frames...

[lean tendon]

I was thinking of something like this with Magnetic Progenitor

idk how to test dmg though

using that site

[flat fossil]

Should i use Corrosive Projection on my Uriel instead of Growing power?

[lean tendon]

if Viral is preferred I guess damage will go down since no 165%

[eternal prism]

for caster it should be better

[eternal prism]

(last with corr)

multishot gives too much to be replaced

If you want to play with the stats yourself, just add the stats here. 105 fire rate (60 bond + 45 furax) and at the very end 250 for heat (because the build is for uskos)

[lean tendon]

idk how you're getting those numbers

what's the enemy you're using

[eternal prism]

Heavy gunner

[flat fossil]

Instead of growing power Corrosive projection is any other mods good?

[eternal prism]

Just these 2

[lean tendon]

I give up, I can't get those numbers. Idk what you are putting aside from the fire rate and uskos you said.

[flat fossil]

Which one is more worth it to use on uriel tho?

[eternal prism]

for caster probaly corr

[flat fossil]

Gotcha

[eternal prism]

can you show? u can send full link in dm

[keen quartz]

Can someone help me build my vinq ?

[flat fossil]

Yea i guess will use it without riven

Okay basically i just need toxin on the riven mod

that was just testing

If i have toxin on the riven and remove Pistol pestilence it's getting amazing

[drowsy herald]

Id say growing power because it increases your ability strength. Armor stripping doesn't really matter anymore. Besides uriel does fire so he's pretty much stripping armor all the time with his 1st

[flat fossil]

Gotcha

Or i can just sell that riven mod and buy the perfect one?

XD

[eternal prism]

or not use riven

[flat fossil]

Basically yea because instead of riven to buff my dmg is making it worse lol

[drowsy herald]

What weapon is that

[flat fossil]

Nukor Kuva

[drowsy herald]

You could reroll the riven and get good stats. For now if you don't have enough kuva just keep it and don't use it. Eventually you'll be able to gather millions of kuva with steel essence and other sources like riven slivers which you can use to reroll

I'm not sure how much riven dispo the nukor has. If it's one or two then it's not worth it

[flat fossil]

well yea i am rerolling it now but nothing good yet

[flat fossil]

its 1

[drowsy herald]

Yeahhh not worth it imo

[flat fossil]

To reroll it?

[drowsy herald]

Yeah

You wanna get rivens mainly for high dispo weapons, or for exceptions like the zariman weapons where a negative crit chance riven is a good bonus as they work with negative crit buffs

[flat fossil]

Oohh damn

Should i sell it?

[drowsy herald]

Up to you idk how much those go for

I think my luckiest riven was a magistar riven

If you get a torid or a burston riven and reroll it for cc cd mainly, you'd be making a thousand platinum minimum

[flat fossil]

Yea

[eternal prism]

for both u need multishot

atleast

if cc+cd it should be +2-1

[drowsy herald]

Yeah yeah

-zoom

[eternal prism]

This is something ideal. There are less ideal ones, but they are still not bad

[drowsy herald]

-100platinum

[eternal prism]

not big deal

[near crater]

I need some advice here. I tried the Corinth after a while, because of SP circuit. With or without decrees, I can conclude:
It deals good headshots at medium range, it's slow, it needs punch through to make up for the low capacity, it needs more than one non-headshot hit to kill most enemies (excl. Thraxes and Dax Malleus)

[drowsy herald]

Honestly the normal corinth felt quite underpowered to me. the corinth prime felt great as kahl though

[near crater]

So is the answer that the Corinth itself is underpowered?

[drowsy herald]

Yeah imo you should just get the prime

Or wait for it to come to resurgence.

[near crater]

Lucky that I got the barrel and blueprint at least

Thanks anyway

[compact cypress]

anything i should change with my felarx build?

[drowsy herald]

Holy investment

[compact cypress]

did do something actually forgot i would want this

[drowsy herald]

I regret even putting a catalyst in my felarx i couldn't bear the very long reload

[compact cypress]

its really not a problem now😭

crux + the ammo stock + you dont even really reload with it when you play it right

[drowsy herald]

Yeah i can't bear to invest more forma rn. I'm saving it for when I have more forma

[eternal prism]

u cant run a lot status chance for felrax

why?
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Damage_2.0/Puncture_Damage

it literally delete your damage

[compact cypress]

oh fr damn

i was just thinking about the ammo efficiency

[quiet laurel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1308988291206611027/1343154356886962186/output.gif

[eternal prism]

tactical pump can changed for other qol mods

[violet silo]

guh

hate it when I get -punture

[eternal prism]

crit felarx

[novel bear]

Punture is the best stat in the game

[flat fossil]

Some man is giving me offer for 500 plat for the riven is it worth selling it for that much?

[violet silo]

the riven

[flat fossil]

Cant find the pic from earlier

[violet silo]

yeah thats worth

[flat fossil]

and he gave me a gift

[violet silo]

that isn't good

[flat fossil]

Yea i need to reroll it

[violet silo]

neg crit dmg is maybe the worst stat possible for nukor

[flat fossil]

Or guys is it worth to buy this riven?

[violet silo]

why would you sell a god roll then spend most of it on another riven

for the same weapon

[pastel monolith]

Hey so yall know how nova's Null star is for some reason classed as a weapon? what does it classify as?

[flat fossil]

Because that riven i had there was literally 0 places on my build

if i remove Pistol elementalist the damage is 0 if i remove viral the damage is again 0

[violet silo]

…no

There was definitely space on that build

[flat fossil]

Where

[violet silo]

but you screwed up hard

if you were going to use a riven that was the best one possible

[flat fossil]

Okay can you tell me how i could squeeze it in

[violet silo]

I don’t know the build, but probably in exchange for a critical damage mod or a damage mod

[violet silo]

oh, you haven’t sold it?

[flat fossil]

I tried removing PTC, Pistol elementalist, PHO none of these helps with the damage

and getting worse

[earnest saddle]

far as i know it's just A Weapon

so only weapon specific buffs like arcane arachne (or nourish) affect it

[kind void]

Does anyone have any news on if they will be patching omamori bug with overguard?

[violet silo]

elementalist probably

[flat fossil]

Nope the damage dropped drastically i tried that

[violet silo]

it’s a critical weapon, though, adding critical damage is a significant buff

[flat fossil]

Yes but removing pistol elementalist doesn't buff nukor

[violet silo]

you do understand that elementalist doesn’t affect your gun’s damage, right?
It affects the damage a heat proc will deal

[flat fossil]

Yes and that's why i am saying the dmg gets worse

I tried like 5 or 6 different builds

[violet silo]

if it’s nukor you probably kill them more than fast enough to not care about heat damage

[pastel monolith]

Well that answers my next question! thank you!

[flat fossil]

I tried a lot of stuff and that riven doesn't help on my build

[pastel monolith]

Cause i was torn between Avenger or Crepscular and running a shade or huras

[violet silo]

I can assure you that riven is very easily slottable, but I doubt you’re listening so I’m going to stop arguing

[flat fossil]

Well i asked you how to put it i am not arguing either, i am explaining what i did and tried

The way you are saying

[earnest saddle]

avenger, regulator status chance is too low to make use of hot shot reliably

[flat fossil]

If the riven mod had toxin instead of Damage for example it would be like that

[spiral chasm]

ur riven is unranked

[flat fossil]

its not

it was maxed

[flat fossil]

The stats i wrote down are the maxed ones

[violet silo]

the toxin isn’t affected by elementalist.

[earnest saddle]

it doesn't HURT, particularly with primed heated charge

[violet silo]

it’s literally just the heat, and that takes a full second to do anything

the toxin is combining into viral, a status that does not deal damage

[spiral chasm]

this isnt max stat for knukor?

[flat fossil]

its literally fully upgraded

[earnest saddle]

base damage mods aren't good on regulators because of how they interact with the strength stat (essentially, you're running into diminishing returns that would be better spent on another mod)

[spiral chasm]

on ur calculation sheet it isnt maxed

[flat fossil]

I know it's not maxed, i am just using the stats on the build

[earnest saddle]

try for primed pistol gambit, drop galvanized shot in favor of something like anemic agility for more fire rate

[flat fossil]

You can't upgrade it on the sheet just typing the upgraded stats

[kind void]

Assuming the omamori bug with overguard is fixed then my nidus build doesn’t need health, armor, duration, range, strength, efficiency, augments, or any mods at all

I can simply survive forever at level cap using pretty much nothing at all

[spiral chasm]

oh i didnt know that cuz the stats on there are a lot worse then what they are supposed to be thats why i asked

[flat fossil]

Yea don't worry i really tried everything possible to just squeeze the mod

But the only option is if the riven have any Element if have toxin is pretty solid replacement

[spiral chasm]

u could sell it for a decent amount to a collector

[flat fossil]

Well i got a riven nukor back and 500 plat for it

So it's kinda 50/50 i will try roll that riven i got and see what i can do with it

Anyway people are refusing to give more for that riven so nothing else i can do tbh

[wide verge]

what to upgrade?

[earnest saddle]

unlock as many of the base nodes as you can first

[primal copper]

Kuva sobek acid shells build?

[primal ibex]

Guys any way to change this Gauss build to make it better

[violet silo]

upgrade fast deflection

then you can take off vigor

duration is good, but if you want it to be a weapon platform, you’ll want his augment for the 3

[wide verge]

Guys what warframe is easy to take to lvl cap and is fun

[quiet laurel]

cat shield doesnt do anything in the 2nd build

[quiet laurel]

fun is subjective so cant help with that

[wide verge]

Then what warframe is easy to take lvl cap and can do lot of dmg while having good survivability

[quiet laurel]

gauss

valkyr

[wide verge]

Gauss does lot of dmg?

[quiet laurel]

he is a weapons platform so really weapon dependent

[wide verge]

with this is he okay? laetum as a secondary

[quiet laurel]

the usual way to play is to get xatas on him, infuse blast via his 3 augment and go for a good influence melee

[wide verge]

I dont have xatas so is roar okay alternative?

[quiet laurel]

for blast its gonna be quite a bit of a dps decrease cause of how blast interacts with xatas

but should still work

cause influence is just so broken

[static sphinx]

Diriga is the best sentinel for early game, right?

[wide verge]

melee at lvl cap

does it even work?

[quiet laurel]

looks good

[quiet laurel]

wdym, melee is the best weapon class rn

[craggy niche]

If youre running xatas is it worth putting in blast on melee

[wide verge]

Ah. What meele weapon in that case?

[craggy niche]

Yes

[quiet laurel]

I like okina cause of its combo passive

[craggy niche]

With melee there's a ton of options, almost everything works these days

[primal ibex]

Thermal something that?

[wide verge]

Sweet. I got okina prime and its incarnon

[primal ibex]

And put archon vitality??

[primal ibex]

Ohwhh

[violet silo]

no

[violet silo]

no

i’m not sure when it would ever be worth running blast on melee

[violet silo]

I thought it was slam or secondary platforming

with dual tox or laetum

[primal ibex]

Why doesn't it do like double dmge w heat x2

[quiet laurel]

slam on gauss is like slam on cyte

you have atk speed and blast infusion what is slam doing there

[violet silo]

idk ask whoever made cascade club’s builds

[quiet laurel]

and yeah you usually bring a secondary for elite enemy killing thats true

[violet silo]

on abilities

[primal ibex]

Oh yea so it won't really influence his melee

[violet silo]

and you double cast so it isn't even going to be heat, it'll be blast

[viscid bane]

Need some opinions on these 2 Hirudo builds

[wide verge]

I farmed all the xaku parts for xatas whisper:)

[severe bough]

Just use slamistar fr

[red moat]

Is health tanking with gara an option?

[novel bear]

Yes

[abstract axle]

triple umbral persistence works with one armor shard. without persistence, it struggles at higher levels

[random oasis]

ive been wondering, can ember become a top notch nuke with the right build

[quiet laurel]

not really

[random oasis]

cuz I don't know who I should use next I really liked gyre

[quiet laurel]

do you want a nuker

[random oasis]

possibly

[quiet laurel]

equinox, sevagoth, garuda, gara are top tier nukers

[solid roost]

Which one? xd

[coral crest]

What about Nezha? I've heard that his pyro setup is very strong

[quiet laurel]

oh yeah he too

[coral crest]

Legitemately never played alongside anyone who knew what they were doing while playing Nezha

And caster Voruna

I think she's very valid too

Took her long enough

[steady stirrup]

Is Nautilus bad with yareli because of the floating or is it not that big of an issue?

[chrome badge]

sentinels hardly affect warframes

especially loyal meruline yareli

[urban sorrel]

Just wanted to share this info:

Koumei decrees that make her deal an extra hit with toxin or cold on critical hit make certain stuff like:
Companion weapons/sometimes abilities, flying swords from Okina incarnon, etc..
(if you know any other weapons that summon stuff pls do tell).
... give you overguard if you have Secondary Fortifier in your secondary.

Which means, if you have any of those 2 decrees you can passively generate overguard without actually using your secondary.

I'm now deeply interested in what weapons would be able to benefit from this weird interaction.

Maybe null stars considering those are classified as weapons..

[craggy niche]

Lmao I just realized laetum or another secondary on xaku would likely carry you oretty high in the levels with just rolling guard and fortifier

[urban sorrel]

Further testing made me realize that said flying swords from the Okina have 1 major flaw.
Their kills dunnot count for Koumei augment that reduces the cooldown from her 2nd ability.

[chrome badge]

holy

another koumei user!!!

yipeeee

[opal leaf]

Nice

Koumei is good ngl, I have mine on Pure Health Tank and it's good hahahaha

[urban sorrel]

Even more testing later:
Null star does not provide with overguard.

but companions abilities like the ones from vulpaphila quills do.

[chrome badge]

i have a half and half tank and im just rolling diceeeee

[chrome badge]

did you proc heat with secondary first equipped with fortitude?

[urban sorrel]

you don't need to use the secondary at all, simply have it with secondary fortifier

[chrome badge]

pretty sure you do for the heat inherit to increase your fortitude build up

[urban sorrel]

I'm not testing how much overguard i get im testing if gives overguard at all

if i still need to use my secondary for stuff to give overguard then its not something im interested on

[chrome badge]

fair enough

proceed, with your alchemy :3

[craggy niche]

I wonder if xakus weapons would count for this

Imma test this when I get home ♿

[chrome badge]

uhhhhh Quassus?

oh wait im dumb

[winter meadow]

for a yarlie build thats using loyal merlina should i uses roar or xatas over her 3

[urban sorrel]

wdym?

[chrome badge]

i'd subsume oveer her 4 firstly

secondly it depends if you use blast, typically roar is used but blast + xata is really powerful

[craggy niche]

His ghost guns

[chrome badge]

it wouldn'tt

[craggy niche]

His followers under his 3 definitely would tho I'm fairly sure

[chrome badge]

its not a subsume ability that can be given to koumei

and koumei's decrees only affect her (and her operator)

[urban sorrel]

Would only work on circuit

[chrome badge]

oh

forgot about that as a context in which decrees exist

😛

[lavish orbit]

Xata, Nourish, Roar, even using Pyrotechnics in combination with arcane hotshot works

[urban sorrel]

The hit of viral quills and the melee hits give overguard, the status procs from them dunnot.

[lavish orbit]

Maybe Hate's heat waves, I know there is strange interactions

[urban sorrel]

Interesting enough the projectiles from Okina are not only able to give overguard but they also proc other decrees like Fault Finder which create this electricity zones.
Again, I dunnot recommend Okina because the flying swords from the incarnon don't count for Koumei 2nd ability cooldown decrease.

Even with Okina dealing great damage the overguard gain is still very minimal.

The overguard gain triggered by all of this sidestuff is actually very minimal compared with the overguard obtained from actually using the secondary, I'm not able to notice if all of these benefit at all from the "deal more damage to overguard" factor.

I think they do benefit but I'm unable to confirm this without going on another huge decree rolling spree because every time I access the arsenal I lose my decrees.

[urban sorrel]

If yall want to test this give it a go but I'm done with it, the overguard gain from this is very insignificant as far I've tested, perhaps with some weird combinations you can gain alot more from it.

[steep schooner]

guys i want a good helminth ability on wisp for weapon dmg buff, should i go for eclipse or roar?

[hollow scarab]

i dont have the augment or know where to get it but can anyone help me make this better?

other than override cuz im working on that still

ok i know where to get it now lol

[main dome]

Can't suggest this enough, at least for a fun build.... Motus Signal on Zephyr is fun especially at max level, because it gives 200% double jump strength, which in addition to her already having low gravity is just insane

Plus using Tail Wind in open areas after a "bullet jump" launch feels more smooth than Uriel's fly

[craggy niche]

i exclusively use tailwind for zephyr but i've kinda been liking her anchored glide cuz the floatyness gets me in trouble sometimes lol

[main dome]

I just bought a kitgun and it's super fun imo to launch into the air and just rain fire

[pulsar linden]

I wiggled my mods around and now the stars are different

[lament elm]

3 anber tauforged shards on casting speed and 2 blue tauforged for energy on a dante

[pulsar linden]

Why different

[lament elm]

Is that your primary?

[pulsar linden]

It's on Naut Prime.

[lament elm]

Ohh

[versed harbor]

elements combine in order row by row so changing the mod order will give diff elemental combos

[twin wharf]

Plz rate my Uriel build, to solve for efficiency and energy I am planning to put 2 azure archon shards and 3 red ability strength shards

[hollow plover]

wha ts the best incarnons available this week?

[lament elm]

I need 8 omni formas an orokin reactor a warframe exilus adapter and maxed out stance for when stynat prime drops

[hollow scarab]

yk if you just hard spec str you get like 300% energy orb drop from one of his demons attacking ppl right?

so id just put all str shards tbh

[twin wharf]

Oh really? So I don't need to add more energy?

[hollow scarab]

yeah no lmao

[twin wharf]

So right now is this a good build?

[hollow scarab]

no its good im just pointing that out

[opal leaf]

Pretty descent

The casual build for Uriel

Tho I don't see Flow there

[hollow scarab]

lemme grab mine hold on

[twin wharf]

Alrighty thanks a lot mate invested a lottt in it too I'm glad it turned out good

[twin wharf]

I changed flow with augur secrets so I can Max his strength

[hollow scarab]

then i used to have all str shards on him

its like the one frame i dont mind blind rage on cuz efficiency means nothing

[opal leaf]

I guess flow is not that important but since you are in less efficiency.... You kinda need it

Remove durstion for flow

Might support your energy pool

[hollow scarab]

for uriel you really dont

[opal leaf]

Yeah that's fair... I guess for comfy energy pool

I always put flow and equilibrium for comfy energy pool

[twin wharf]

Seriously Ur joking? So blind rage is like just +ability strength and no downside

[hollow scarab]

for uriel? basically

[twin wharf]

I am lackin primed sure footed but I'll get that at some point lol

[twin wharf]

Right so even with my flimsy 180 max energy this is good?

[hollow scarab]

this is WITHOUT str shards andi used to run 5 tau str

with the str shards you break like 310%

[opal leaf]

Damn

With Equi it'll be broken

[twin wharf]

Right point taken I should read the description of my build afteeerrr I've built it

[opal leaf]

Inf energy

[opal leaf]

Yup

[twin wharf]

Yea literally

[hollow scarab]

just keep your 1 up all the time, spam your 2, hit hard with your weapons and then hit 4 in the middle of a crowd, profit, repeat

[twin wharf]

2 is the souls he sends right?

[hollow scarab]

and ur 3 is basically a free full heal and overshield

yeah 2 is his souls

1 is his fire aura for movement and heat inherit, 3 is health, and 4 is the delete the room button

[twin wharf]

Okay so 1, 2 and then 3 then when 4 is max unleash hell?

[hollow scarab]

yep

[twin wharf]

Gotchaaaa thanksss mateee

[hollow scarab]

well 3 whenever. its not really an order lol

whenever they or you get low just pop 3 and basically full heal everything

and ur 1 has decent duration so jsut keep that up

[twin wharf]

Right I found that "if" I'm in low energy 3 basically gives me enough for the rest of the mission

[opal leaf]

Or 1 3, 2 to heal and 4 to boom them out of existence

[hollow scarab]

3 is heal 2 is damage

[twin wharf]

Right that's what I've been doing

[eternal stream]

Looking to build more into necromancer nekros but dk where to start

[twin wharf]

Yeaa okay

[hollow scarab]

shield of shadows. thats where to start lmao

[opal leaf]

Wait I thought 3 is the "GO DEMONS, GO!" skill

[hollow scarab]

no thats his 2

3 is his heal all my demons to max and heal myself and grant overshield

[eternal stream]

Also I keep randomly getting one shot whole playing him? With nothing active

[twin wharf]

On Uriel? U get one shoted?

[twin wharf]

Or u one shot?

[eternal stream]

No on nekros

[twin wharf]

Oh right

[opal leaf]

Yeah it's 3,demonium is the go demons go one... Where they become a spinning blazing mf

2 is the heal one

I'm at the wiki rn

[hollow scarab]

this is more of a loot goblin build but it still works for SP if you got the weapons

[hollow scarab]

shit it is why is it showing them reversed for me?

[opal leaf]

Bro fix it hahahahahah

[twin wharf]

I'm tryin to do the Archimedeas solo would this work with my Uriel build?

[hollow scarab]

i hover over 2 and it shows me the 3's stats and hover over 3 and it shows me the 2's stats

[eternal stream]

I may move some mods and add umbral fiber and intensify

[opal leaf]

Ooffff restart the game

[twin wharf]

Bug maybe?

[opal leaf]

Maybe

I'm at the wiki rn, and 2 was always his heal and 3 is the blazing demon

[eternal stream]

Necromancer yeah?

[opal leaf]

Rake, try restarting the game

[hollow scarab]

@eternal stream essentially just kill eximus, pop ur 4, keep ur 3 up at all times and use your 3 to strip armor and for breathing room. if you ask me his 1 can be subsumed off for anything you want

[twin wharf]

I did 1 Archimedea mission solo and constantly popped 2,1,3 and lastly 4

[twin wharf]

I'd say tempest barrage no?

[hollow scarab]

yes i use it for loot but i also keep his 4 up constantly for dps and DR so i can focus on killing and not surviving. can swap off augmented or concentration for the one that buffs ur abilities for summoned enemy damage

[hollow scarab]

thats one option

as much as i am bored of it, nourish is another

[twin wharf]

With hydroid augemnt to proc with viral too

[twin wharf]

I've seen nourish literally on everything

[hollow scarab]

yeah that takes a slot tho so if youre wanting to just proc viral ppl would just use nourish to do the same thing

[twin wharf]

True that

[hollow scarab]

no literally. every damn build

[twin wharf]

Even 1 Loki build I saw nourish which btw WHO uses Loki still? Needs a rework honestly

[hollow scarab]

i feel like they gotta buff some other abilities and pick better ones in the future for helminth. both to try and add more shit to use than just nourish and also i wanna see more good raw damage abilities like pyrotechnics

[craggy niche]

loki's objectively fine

[twin wharf]

Yea it's either roar or nourish on every frame

[craggy niche]

he could use some cc but even that's questionable lol

[twin wharf]

For spy I'd agree but I've died more time than I can count with him than kullervo without overguard

[hollow scarab]

on paper hes fine. the problem is his kit needs a tweak to be able to do shit to OG enemies or smth. cuz thats kinda a problem is with how many OG enemies we got his 4 (kinda one of the main parts of his kit) just kinda does nothing to them

[twin wharf]

Yea exactly

[hollow scarab]

id just make the disarm ignore OG and still apply radiation to em and call it a day. that would honestly fix the eximus v loki issue

that and make his 1 scale off enemy level so it doesnt get 1 shot from across the map

[twin wharf]

Yep that's what I've been sayin too

[hollow scarab]

especially since without the augment it doesnt do damage, then you just tweak the augment to cap the level it can spawn at so you cant build like 18 quintillion damage and break the game

[versed harbor]

lokis the goat tbh lets change ash instead

[hollow scarab]

now i know youre memeing lmao

[versed harbor]

nah im not

[hollow scarab]

you want to change ash... who is already cracked?

[versed harbor]

all of lokis abilities are decent unlike ash tbh

[hollow scarab]

yeah this mf memeing lol

[versed harbor]

well other than radial disarm but using it for a subsume slot is fine

[hollow scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-void-lugger-daklo-gif-4334627403413065645

lmao

[versed harbor]

decoy has good priming potential and synergizes with switch teleport

one of the comfiest longest invisibilities in the game

switch teleport gives rly good movement speed buff which scales with strength

4 isnt great but it used to be alot better its just outdated now

u could use irradiating disarm as a gimmick but not rly worth it

hes not top tier or anything but lokis just a rly comfortable flexible frame with giga movement speed

[hollow scarab]

any tips to make this better? i just put last forma into it

[winter mesa]

Hey I know this isn’t really what this for but is alternox prime any good? Assumed this was the best spot to ask

[mighty flare]

it's okay, not the best but very usable

[hollow scarab]

i still need to get that just to have all the primes

[winter mesa]

Ok thanks, I appreciate it

[random prawn]

Ik this doesn't belong here but which one do I choose?

[old marsh]

right and stop. but if u wanna sell it then left

assuming u plan to use it upto EDA/ETA content and not level cap stuff

[hollow scarab]

ok jfc oraxia is nice as a weapons platform. once you get on a roll theres just no stopping you

[opal leaf]

You know Ash is more of an assassin

Like Loki is cool, I main Loki, but Ash is better tbh hahahaha

Better because Ash can actually damage and kill most of Bosses in one quick finisher, and it's been tested with roath hahaha

[naive hinge]

what to build xoris as a beginner ?

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a steel path umbra build that isnt so hyperfocused on his 4 that everything else becomes useless? im not tryna do level cap i just want to be able to use him to complete any tier of 1999 sp bounties without needing to be caried?

[opal leaf]

Loki is just.... Slot all Durstion, use Mind Control over his 4 and you're goated

Loki is cool but I won't belittle Ash just bc... Loki is easy to use hahahah

[old marsh]

Loki is a Trickster. Ash is Assassin

[opal leaf]

CC Excalibur might be good

[opal leaf]

Amen 💯

[lean tendon]

Exalted build is the standard no matter if its level cap or not

[hollow scarab]

this is what i have rn. a build someone gave me but it feels way to hyperforcused on his 4 that the moment i get low on energy or have a ton of enemies around me i just get instagibed or need to run away fast

[lean tendon]

And if you are not using his other skills, then you're already doing something wrong

[hollow scarab]

i am they just do jack shit

and i dont know why

my 2 and wrathful work ofc but my 1 does nothing and my 4 feels like it just drains way too fast

[novel bear]

Use diriga with synth deconstruct

[hollow scarab]

and i also lack 5 purple shards to do the melee crit thing

[hollow scarab]

noted

[novel bear]

Your one shouldn’t be doing nothing unless your blade build is bad

[hollow scarab]

probably is cuz i got this open slot and have no idea what im doing

i am not an excal player but im tryna be for 1999 lol

[novel bear]

Take off the gas mods to start

And put on an electric mod

The 90 mod, not 60/60

[hollow scarab]

i get electric from my augment dont i? ir do you mean on top of that

[lean tendon]

1 is one of the best panic button

Radial Blind is a great cc

Radial Javelin is the one people subsume off because you don't really play around that skill

[novel bear]

That changes your base damage to electric
It doesn’t increase status damage

[hollow scarab]

ah ok

[novel bear]

Radial javelin is used with the augment

[lean tendon]

Yes but it's also the common to subsume off

[novel bear]

Melee elementalist or galvanized elementalist as well

[novel bear]

Also common to subsume over 2 instead
His 4 can do budget blinds anyways

[lean tendon]

Unless you're playing non exalted build then you subsume the exalted

[hollow scarab]

i have both is one more recommended?

[novel bear]

Galvanized

[lean tendon]

Fair enough for the 2 over 3 subsume

[novel bear]

And then something for range, primed reach if you have it

Or weeping wounds

[hollow scarab]

i do but ill have to forma for the range

and weeping too. ill just have to forma 1 more time anyway lol

but the umbra build itself is good? or would like nourish over his 3 be better than wrathful?

[opal leaf]

What is usually the Subsume slot of Excal?

[hollow scarab]

3

that much i do know

[opal leaf]

Aight thanks

[hollow scarab]

cuz if umbra needs work too id like tips there lol.

[novel bear]

Umbra build is fine for lowish levels
You’ll run into survivability issues at level 200 or so

[hollow scarab]

ah, any tips there? preferably that arent "get 5 purple shards"

[novel bear]

There’s a few options for that
You could use arcane persistence or arcane circumvent
Or you could forma over two of the umbra polarities and do shield gating

Circumvent is the easy option

[hollow scarab]

yeah ill do that'

[novel bear]

You could also do traditional health tanking, which would use adaptation and eclipse

[hollow scarab]

ill just swap fury for it

oh thats not a bad idea

cuz eclipse would buff my 4 too right?

[novel bear]

No
It’s either damage buff or damage reduction

Not both at the same time

[hollow scarab]

no i know. but like it can is what im asking. ik its weird what it considers abilities and weapons so thats why im asking. ik its tap/hold for one or the other

main use is DR ofc but just to ask

[novel bear]

It can buff the 4, yes

[sturdy vault]

I am BEGGING for a reason to use these tauforged blues... so I introduce to you all... the proposition of a 5 tauforged blue shield capacity styanax 😭

[opal leaf]

Get 5 red shards

Of pure melee

[novel bear]

They should make blue shards affect base values instead of coming after mods

[novel bear]

That’s the more expensive half of 5 purples though

Blues are cheap

[sturdy vault]

we need shard distillusion I swear.

[opal leaf]

I know, there is a reason why I recommend it

I'm feeling devious rn

[sturdy vault]

I think I only use purples on kullervo and nova (eq)

[lean tendon]

Nekros equilibrium shard to save a mod slot

[steady stirrup]

Should I use Nautilus for grouping then cedo for priming, or just use panzer vulpaphyla or diriga for priming and forget abt grouping?

I can use the cedo for priming bc itll be on yareli so my secondary will be the damage

[ashen spire]

What do you think about my build, Tenno? I've been Akariusing Priming with Yareli so much I was thinking about my Cedo Prime.

[hollow scarab]

what would i take off for adaptation? fiber?

[novel bear]

What build?

[lean tendon]

Double cold mod?

[tidal parrot]

double toxin?

[novel bear]

Triple radiation?

[novel bear]

Continuity or fort

[tidal parrot]

actually nvm i read vicious spread and that sounded 1000% like a toxin mod, i just cant remember

[novel bear]

It’s not

It’s corrupted

[tidal parrot]

yea ik i just pulled it up

[gleaming oasis]

Got Atlas prime today, Here is what I started with. Figured the standard melee influence build minus beserker fury would be fine. One question is what affects the landslide range? Ability range like overextended or melee weapon range like reach?

[novel bear]

Both I believe

But ability range is obviously better, being multiplicative

[tidal parrot]

does arcane cammisado work with rubbled augment?

[gleaming oasis]

never though about that way

[eternal prism]

Very bad riven cuz low synergy

[tidal parrot]

also if you are doing rubbled augment then use condition overload as its multiplicitive

[novel bear]

I don’t know
I really want to, because if it does, then summoner’s wrath probably works too

Free 75% faction damage

[eternal prism]

Free unlimited faction damage*

[tidal parrot]

also iirc range doesnt affect rubbled augment

[hollow scarab]

eh fiber isnt really doing a lot for me im guessing so ill forma that off

[novel bear]

It does

[hollow scarab]

it does?

[novel bear]

More strength, more health, more armor

[hollow scarab]

ah

[novel bear]

Two of those are vital for health tanking

[hollow scarab]

so keep that and take off smth else then i guess

[novel bear]

Yes

[hollow scarab]

eq feels important so maybe cont?

[novel bear]

Probably

That or transient fortitude

[tidal parrot]

it doesnt

[novel bear]

It was a long shot anyways

[hollow scarab]

yeah cuz if im getting str from umbral and might throw on a red shard for str anyway that can go

[gleaming oasis]

man

so what should I add and or change for the build if anybody has anything

[tidal parrot]

also overguard works with arcane persistence (iirc its a bug) but something something slap 3 umbral mods and some casting speed to make you throw faster.

my normal punch build uses lycanth's hunt so i can get away without rubble if my squad is doing good, if you are planing on playing solo then its probably better to take it off for smthn like wrathful advance or smthn else depending on what you feel like you need.

for the rubble heap augment it doesnt work with path of statues and i should honestly probably take nourish off that for smthn else since lycanths hunt is more reliable at no rubble but at the same time you should also just realistically be at high rubble at the same time.

worth noting that your health and shields go invincible when you use your 1 so you can use it both as a kill everything button and for free invincibility for as long as you have energy

also you can take off natural talent if you wana slot in casting speed shards instead honestly up to personal preference

[craggy niche]

can someone tell me if anything needs swapped for this, it's the only decent weapon i have for this eda round lol

[gleaming oasis]

so in what order would you put the atlas augments into must to unessecary

[gleaming oasis]

if you are running influence ditch all non elec status mods

run reach, beserker fury, etc

[gleaming oasis]

take this as a refrence for the john melee build

[tidal parrot]

rubble heap is necessary, rumbler and path of statues are both personal preference, ore gaze if u want to loot. I would personally not reccomend trying to fit a lot (like max of 2 augment mods) on atlas since theres a fair amount of mods that he kinda needs plus not all the augment mods play nice together

would add that any rumbler build you put together (aside from overguard persistence being kinda nutty) will just generically do more damage with his punch instead of trying to throw rocks unless your intending to prime everything first in which case your probably 1 shotting everything either way

[novel bear]

Which weapon? Gunsen? Vericres? Quassus?

[craggy niche]

quaasssus

[gleaming oasis]

yeah even with only half the mods being slotted I can hit for over 1 mil red crits

[tidal parrot]

theres a valid argument for path of statues CC but overall aslong as you use your 3 somewhat consistently as well as if need be use your 4 (recast will kill the rumblers and make them drop rubble if you really need) you should be able to keep a realitively healthy amount of rubble especially if your not having to fight for every kill

[summer crest]

im widouth my phone so i cant send pictures but i was rolling a boltor riven and i have to choose bettwen

[novel bear]

Yeah, just do crabsweat

[summer crest]

+187% DAMAGE and 58% reload speed

or

125% crit chance
2,5 penetration
118 crit damage

and i dunno what to pick

[novel bear]

Second

[summer crest]

why?

[novel bear]

Crit is better
Damage is common from other sources

[summer crest]

i see

thanks

now to get the incarnon adapter to put it on the boltor tels

[craggy niche]

lol

do i run ivara and play my eda out legit or do this and do what one does with zephyr lol

[novel bear]

If you don’t have any good guns just do target fixation

[craggy niche]

yeahhhhh i uhh have a thing for that lmao

i should try to squeeze streamline in there somewhere

i don't really need flow she's got a pretty big energy pool

[novel bear]

Or equilibrium

Tailwind isn’t that expensive, and consistent energy gain is better

[craggy niche]

i

'm more team energize than equil cuz it provides team support as well

i know equil is more consistent but energize provides a bump to the whole squad and using channeled whilst gobbling up all the energy at least you can give back that way XD

[primal ibex]

Is this good w all shards duration

@queen sandal and @violet silo

[violet silo]

wouldnt recommend avenger but otherwise this is great

although I might recommend smth like umbral intenssify over vigorous swap, since damage is kinda meh

[primal ibex]

W torid incarnon and xatas whisper

[violet silo]

intensify will give more damage through xata and transfer than intensify will

[primal ibex]

Okayyy

[primal ibex]

Some people say fast deflection is meh meh is it not true

[violet silo]

false

fast deflection is mandatory

as is aegis

since you subsumed kinetic plating

[opal leaf]

Torid Works with Xata?

[primal ibex]

Torid corrosive thermal transfer blast xata gives void dmge + epitaph prime and melee okina prime

[violet silo]

everything that has blast works with xata

[opal leaf]

Aight, Corrosive Blast ON Torid and NATARUK Blast, here I go Xaku

[violet silo]

tho I'd recommend a tank shredder for your secondary rather than epitaph
smth like dual tox, laetum, furis

[opal leaf]

Oh I have both DUAL Tox and Furis

Why tho?

[violet silo]

torid is trash killer, okina is trash killer

you want something for thrax and acolytes and whatever else

[opal leaf]

That all just to make it work? Man that's too much, I'm going easy hahaha

[opal leaf]

Ah fair, Dual Toxo is one

I still need to fix Furis tbh

[primal ibex]

Ouwhhhh

Like for enemies a high armor?

[opal leaf]

Yee

Tanky enemies like Gunners (idk they seem Tanky), Acolytes, etc

[primal ibex]

Well it's torid incarnon and epitaph alone is enough or jus torid incarnon for trash killing coz the arcane avenger gives crit and redlines speed and like a good set up for the torid Incarnon I think if was corrosive slash or some

The thermal transfer gives blast dmge it's pretty cheap to buy

Blast dmge to Ur weapon

So pretty easy rip

[opal leaf]

Slash sucks

It may do damage but it's slower than others

As what they say, do a Tank Killer

Toxo and Furis incarnons are good

[violet silo]

or a lot of health, overguard, whatever

[primal ibex]

I see

[primal ibex]

OUWH

[opal leaf]

Single shotters

Hell idk if Burston can be good too

@violet silo ? Thoughts?

[craggy niche]

tailwind zephyr went fine ish lol

[violet silo]

burston works

[opal leaf]

Yup

[violet silo]

laetum or dual tox would be stronger, probably

[craggy niche]

god the fragmented tide could not have any shorter of a ceiling height and the stupid cutscene cut my tailwind bonus lol

[opal leaf]

So single targets

Dual Toxo (I know it can bounce), Burston, Furis

Laetum too ye

[craggy niche]

burston is really good as is laetum

[opal leaf]

Though idk the comparison between the 2 but they are both good I would say

[craggy niche]

i'm really excited i got the lex and the boltor are my duviri rolls this week

[opal leaf]

What are the circuit incarnons rn

[craggy niche]

i LOVEd the lex for a long time, the incarnon sounds kinda bleh but

uhhhh lex and boltor and uhhh ceramic dagger and that one funky slam weapon

and bronco

[opal leaf]

Ah

[craggy niche]

magistar

So magistar, boltor, ceramic dagger, lex and bronco

i was most excited about lex and boltor tho