builds-discussion

[eternal prism]

Always good for the build

And conveniences

[gleaming oasis]

So I started a cyte build but didnt finish it. here is the first attempt. what needs to be swapped out?

[long portal]

show neutralizer?

also, archon intensify wont proc on him

he doesnt heal himself

youre just eating up mod capacity for nothing

personally i use brief respite on him instead of building for shields, he doesnt have a lot of shields regardless, you can gate with his 2

[craggy niche]

i use lots of non incarnons

i use anamata higasa magnus supra all the 1999 stuff etc

i play a whole bunch of weps that ain't incarn

[gleaming oasis]

while not potatoed out this is what I have for the most part

[long portal]

replace chamber with acuity

basically a straight upgrade

[gleaming oasis]

I can just use the base ver then right?

[long portal]

yep, there is no difference

[gleaming oasis]

anything else?

[long portal]

youll have a really hard time getting him rolling with low efficiency

i actually put energy nexus on him since his setup is so energy hungry

its more QOL

[gleaming oasis]

over trans fort?

[long portal]

no lol over endurance drift

but i think you should try taking him to missions

and just see like if its inconvenient to get him started

with your current efficiency. because for me when i want to actually start killing people as cyte, i wanna have my 1 at the very least and ideally my 2 for more damage before using neutralizer, and then cast 3

[gleaming oasis]

so funny thing I was fooling around with the colors for his fashion frame and realized that I can just make it like lucio especially with the coda bassocyst.

[long portal]

if you want parkour speed, its easier to get it from shards

i think you might want to consider rolling guard for him depending on where youre taking him also

[gleaming oasis]

where would rolling guard go over in this situation you think?

[long portal]

hmm, not sure. if you feel really comfortable with redirection, ignore this, but i would probably put it over that

mine, i do think you might wanna consider crepuscular over molt aug as well

dont feel that you have to copy me or anything though

[opal leaf]

"We go jumping away and dodge and air glide than rolling guard" I said, flexing my fatty biceps as I confidently smile. The tone of my voice is nothing but a simple joke than of a mock

[long portal]

the only things i feel really strongly about are that you want to invest in more energy economy and you want acuity instead of chamber

[gleaming oasis]

bet

[gleaming oasis]

what would be the general resupply option? viral, heat elec

[long portal]

i think people probably want viral, but it can be useful to pay attention to the enemies. like i took cyte to ETA this week and was dropping gas for people when we were fighting techrot

[gleaming oasis]

ok 500k red crits seems pretty good

how would I modifly some of my kuva weapons for cyte since I was told that they were best used with him.

[near vortex]

technically it can

its just not likely since you won't be taking health damage

[long portal]

does he have a healing ability?

[near vortex]

Evade, yeah

[night laurel]

evade heals

[long portal]

oh my god right his 3 heals

[night laurel]

but if u have evade up ur never taking damage at all anyways

[near vortex]

100 at base on headshot kill

[long portal]

ive never once used it to heal

[near vortex]

this exactly lol

[long portal]

if im taking health damage im already dead

[long portal]

@gleaming oasis update lol

[night laurel]

maybe combat discipline?

[near vortex]

technically it works
but like
in practice unless your name is Combat Discipline Glazer than no

[night laurel]

LOL

[velvet pulsar]

Coda Hema

Controlled health drain.

[craggy niche]

lol tf when you get your favorite warframe in the circuit

[weak jasper]

How do I make use of coda motovore?

Since slam is apparently not really a thing any more

[velvet pulsar]

It is but it's not spammable.

[craggy niche]

don't even bother with elemental on his rifle

nothing survives the hit for it to matter

[mighty flare]

slam is very much still a "thing" and it would build for Impact to slam
otherwise slash for influence or puncture for doughty (not good)

[craggy niche]

also he does not need this much strength, he basically just needs not negative strength
Edit: of course it matters to some degree but sacrifices should not be made to achieve high strength with him

[night laurel]

would it be wise to swap out aptitude with Elementalist for a DOT build? Reconifex
thought about it and underframe sim numbers aren't satisfying bc it boils down to similar numbers

[thorn oak]

i honestly think that the gun is very satisfying to use but it is just not that good

[night laurel]

that's fine, i think it's good for what i want it to do i.e. anything

[thorn oak]

i was thinking that if u just run cold on it u can stack frostbite and it would probably be pretty good

[weak jasper]

How do you do it these days?

[craggy niche]

that basically removes it's passive because if you use the passive it would become blast, would it not?

[weak jasper]

Do you still just jump and heavy attack? Assuming not Zephyr and such

[thorn oak]

im not actually sure how status works with the passive

[craggy niche]

or is it projectile based

[night laurel]

nah its forced heat proc that does not combine

[thorn oak]

and im thinking frostbite is probably no better than just serration on it

[night laurel]

what level are you having trouble with

[craggy niche]

sick

[thorn oak]

im not using it currently I only got it to level 20 so i still got a little way to go before i can fully judge it

[weak jasper]

Yeah forced status not combining is nice

Shout out to volt

[craggy niche]

and gyre^^^

[night laurel]

i'm running SP Mot with it with no primers (forgot my dog) it kills fine

[craggy niche]

albeit gyre do it better, or will rather if they fix the bug with it

[night laurel]

i wanted to try shock trooper with it but apparently ive never subsumed volt 😭 smfh

[gray flame]

does anyone have an acceltra prime build?

[thorn oak]

accuity might be interesting

this is what i used with mirage, hunter munitions is probably something to consider swapping out tho

for acceltra

[gray flame]

ty

[craggy niche]

this is the one i use personally, i've gone all the way up to cap with it and not let me down

can proc archon stretch with neutralizer loaded with shock rounds from your own kit

i've played around with higher ranges and so on and lower durations but i'm just not happy playing him if i'm scrambling around between waves praying to god i don't lose my evade

[craggy niche]

could run it on cyte for his forced elemental lolol

[night laurel]

lol i feel that stress

ur evade is ticking down and theres barely any enemies around

[craggy niche]

I really like frames that aren't the rinse and repeat catalyzing shields 45 eff nonsense lol. Game becomes pretty bland pretty fast

[novel bear]

Play revenant

[solemn kiln]

is this a decent roll?

[fierce lark]

eh

[solemn kiln]

oh, hai saryn

[opal leaf]

"Same... But I make those frames work by making them spammy (or semi spam)" I said as I look at the builds I have, "Vauban, Loki, Gauss. All spammy frames hehehe, Next is koumei"

[solemn kiln]

i just started making koumei

[opal leaf]

Nice one

"I'm making her a CC frame as well" I smile slyly

[solemn kiln]

and we wouldnt need to make stuff like that using cata shields if you didnt die to a stray bullet without killing the entire room the sec you walk into it

and cata shields doesnt work on infested they be like screw your shields here is some gas

[lean tendon]

I mean you could always just use passive gating

[opal leaf]

"the Gauss Shield" I gasp

[lean tendon]

its not like active gating is mandatory

[solemn kiln]

is there any frames that can activate stealth and actually bullet jump and run around? cause i know ivara you can only walk around

[night laurel]

loki

cyte

[primal ibex]

Guys can anyone drop a prime 0 forma gauss build but orakin reactor or catalyst

[opal leaf]

Loki, Cyte, Ash

[kindred pumice]

any extreme arca triton build for slam?

so far i´ve made it do 20 mill

but my greed want me to make it even more

[opal leaf]

One forma would be enough
This is it

It's a CC intended frame... Solely focus on spamming cold around the area

You can remove Archon Vitality for more range or duration but that's jt

[primal ibex]

Thankssss

[warm obsidian]

Discipline's Merit or Dreamer's Wrath for Valkyr

[green gyro]

always disciplines merit

[fierce lark]

0 forma sunder nuke

[opal leaf]

Is low strength actually works?

Am always scared of low strength bc of the effectiveness of 2 will be gone

[fierce lark]

heat procs compound, 40 strength sunder still nukes levelcap with 3 heat + cold and 2 heat for anything else

at lower levels 1+1 works

2 is subsumed, aegis is bugged and will be permanently active once it procs at high battery

[opal leaf]

I see

[fierce lark]

but archon vitality is mandatory for sunder nuke

else you have to cast twice as many

[opal leaf]

Well my Gauss is CC intended, not intended for nuke sooooo yeah

[fierce lark]

death is a good cc

[opal leaf]

I know, but I want to use my weapons more than just having the ability to do their work

It adds challenge in my part

[fierce lark]

cool thing about sunder nuke build is that it's just 0 forma natty

[opal leaf]

That's true XDDD

Well now I'm making Koumei a CC frame

Soooo yeah

I'm making everyone into CC

So CC = Death is not CC but Nuke in my principle (IN MY PRINCIPLE....... Just... Just me...)

Nuking is Boring for me, that's the thing

And I'm just ranting alone hahaha

Cye Tennos

[fierce lark]

there's a hundred different ways you could go about gun gauss

whatever balance of strength vs duration vs forma cost you want

if you wanted to do melee you can also sub shock over 3 and replace thermal transfer with shock trooper

[peak stirrup]

I know it isn't the best Lizzie build, but I'm trying...
Could I get some help on what to add/remove from Lizzie (given the general theme of the build stays the same) and get some advice on what the hell to put on Temple? This build isn't too bad as it can kill most things on steel path somehow, but I know for a fact it can be better

[fierce lark]

for obvious reasons, temple should have a reactor installed. corrosive projection is good and matches the aura polarity

there's a few different ways to mod lizzie, but radiation is not good and debilitate is awful in general. serration is also useless, the weapon gets base damage from aptitude + temple's strength.

aptitude, chamber, critical delay & vital sense should always be present. elemental combinations can be a few different things. blast toxin (with archon continuity + primary blight), viral heat, corrosive heat/blast (if subsuming nourish)

[thick bison]

Okie, so I had a thonk and thought: what if I put yellow shard (energy orb effectiveness) on Titania, force orb spawning with Archon flow, then let Titania guzzle energy to fuel Duplex Bond casting. Hot or not?

[lean tendon]

you already spawn those Duplex Bond clones by just stacking your Razorwing Blitz/active shield gating tbh

never had problems spawning clones

[thick bison]

Yeah, but with higher efficiency it's 1, maybe 2 of them at once

Since blitz is very cost efficient

[lean tendon]

I don't think it's worth it to build around it

[versed harbor]

duplex clones just arent that good rly like she can make use of the mod but focusing on it doesnt do much

titania is already op enough alone

[thick bison]

By lowering efficiency (while improving energy production) I have guaranteed clone every 40 seconds due to Razorwing upkeep, but effectively it's almost 100% uptime on 1 clone thanks to blitzing

[latent latch]

What's a good element to have on a burston prime incarnon?

[thick bison]

I managed to breed a Predasite that solo deals with Acolytes, so keeping a duplex clone of it is free damage I don't have to pay attention to

[thick bison]

The fun part is that I don't seem to sacrifice any power in making the duplex clones factory - the energy economy is same as before (archon flow in place of equilibrium), nor am I losing damage to gain clones

[lean tendon]

I mean it's a fun build

[versed harbor]

a predasite scaling to an acolyte isnt rly anything either since attenuation doesnt affect companions

[lean tendon]

but I won't be running it in level cap

[versed harbor]

the sacrifice is ur using archon shard slots and trying to rely on archon flow which is rly rly bad

and if ur tryna rely on archon flow then ur using raw cold on one of your exalteds which is bad

[lean tendon]

yeah you also are forced to run raw cold

if it's a summoner build then it's fine I guess

[thick bison]

Yeah, which is why I'm seeing if I can use [Anabolic Pollination] to force Toxin damage onto weapon, activating Archon Continuity

[lean tendon]

fun build just letting your companion clones do the work for you

[versed harbor]

a clone wont use anabolic pollination they have no abilities

[lean tendon]

you can't

all abilities won't work

and Duplex Bond clones will not use any abilities as well

[thick bison]

Surprisingly, the clones do activate Vizier's Iatric Mycelium

So I want to see whether other Predasite abilities also trigger

[versed harbor]

imo titania activates duplex consistent enough without hurting ur energy economy so u just dont rly need to worry

[thick bison]

Yeah, I will probably see if taking off Archon Flow keeps me aflow - though I do panick about going down to 265 energy cap back

Since that leaves way less leeway if an energy drought happens

[versed harbor]

just use regular primed flow or dont build for the cold part of archon

[thick bison]

Yeah, I don't have primed flow, so I will probably not use the second line of text

[versed harbor]

idk why they made the archon passive so bad its genuinely unusable

ye

[lean tendon]

I have been trying to sell my Archon Flow for a long time now

this mod is like Frost exclusive or something

[thick bison]

So for triggers on Archon Continuity, I probably want something like this?

[versed harbor]

naw its bad on frost too :[

[thick bison]

Arcane is more of what I have access to rather than end goal

[lean tendon]

no enervate?

[thick bison]

No access to, I didn't do 1999 yet

[versed harbor]

itll do the trick for now ye hornet strike isnt rly doing anything ig

but idk what you'd replace it with other than a faction mod

[lean tendon]

Hornet Strike I would change to something like Magnetic Might or Target Cracker

[thick bison]

Oh, straight up magnetic damage mod? Yeah, once I have it is going in

[lean tendon]

but it's also fine to just rock that for now until you get enervate

this is mine

[thick bison]

I might be funny and Accelerated Isotope in place of Magnetic Might for now

[lean tendon]

I don't have Primed Heated Charge yet so weaker damage rip

[thick bison]

Yeah, Enervate makes Target Cracker real valuable

[versed harbor]

fr

hate enervate feel like its too good to not slot

I used to run combat discipline avenger titania lool

[thick bison]

I could be fancy, pick Conjuction Voltage + subsumed Shock [Shock Trooper]

But that's an extra augment just to be fancy

[lean tendon]

there's also the encumber build but enervate is just no brainer ez to utilize arcane

[thick bison]

Oh, that's pretty cute, stacking random status effects would play nicely with duplex clones using Cull the Weak

[versed harbor]

ye but only if they survive dex pixia

[velvet pulsar]

Encumber Impetus

[thick bison]

Right, that's another power point to stack together

[velvet pulsar]

Galv Shot

[fallen silo]

heya peeps anyone with a nice sun and moon build

[velvet pulsar]

We don't talk about moon builds

[fallen silo]

[velvet pulsar]

Would be nice if someone helps this Drifter out.

[lean tendon]

Sun and Moon only for the drip

[velvet pulsar]

There, u got ur help.

[fallen silo]

thannnk you

[lean tendon]

Maybe just generic melee influence build is enough for Sun and Moon

[pulsar linden]

Alright, so if I try to run hollvainia bounties I get my butt severely kicked by the three billion eximus units. I'm MR 10, is there something I can do about this?

I can't damage the eximus units enough to not get ragdolled.

And if the Jade Light equivalent show up, I actually go down.

This is my build for my Frame.

Weapon.

[lean tendon]

It's time for you to farm better mods

[pulsar linden]

Where? In SP?

[eternal prism]

Almost no diff in sp and non sp

[primal ibex]

Is this good

[pulsar linden]

So where should I go to find better mods other than waiting for the guy who sells the better mods?

[eternal prism]

Yes
Save it until you have an incarnon adapter

[primal ibex]

Oh so should I use this or hek to clear star chart

And I got a genuine question if I'm going godspeed Gauss shotgun better or riffle how

[pulsar linden]

I think I left mine alive. I like hunting MR, so it may have been sacrificed to the ever growing pile.

[opal leaf]

Base? Nah. Incarnon? Very as it's been on the ranks between Daikyu P, Cernos P (as I heard) and Nataruk" I said as I leaned onto the resting Kubrow like a pillow

[eternal prism]

I don't know what's best for killing mobs at the start; at that point, I preferred melee

[primal ibex]

Okayyyy thanks guys and how to rank up Mr faster

[eternal prism]

Dread better
It just expensive for build

[primal ibex]

I'm mr6 been like 9 days

[eternal prism]

Just leave it
It might come in handy someday

[primal ibex]

Okay

[eternal prism]

Like the rest of the stalker weapons

[opal leaf]

"Oh?" I said, my brow raised in unison, "ok damn... What does it's Incarnon form do?" I asked, petting my Kubrow

[static sphinx]

https://overframe.gg/build/759335/higasa/higasa-corrosive-cold-and-variants/
I was recommended this build, but wouldn't higasa serration be better instead of amalgam one?

[eternal prism]

Fires a wide arrow that pierces all targets

[opal leaf]

"infinite Punch Through?" I asked

[opal leaf]

"Probably for speed" I said lifelessly, shrugging

[eternal prism]

Gas sharpshot dread☠️

A lot of damage

[static sphinx]

I can sacrifice a bit of speed for 300% damage

[opal leaf]

"So Gas dread and Long Bow" I said

[eternal prism]

Cannot shoot through walls

[static sphinx]

Is dread actually good?

[eternal prism]

Fine

[opal leaf]

"inf body Punch Through then?" I asked

[eternal prism]

Some people like it

[opal leaf]

"it is... But I prefer Nataruk more... It's more fun for me to use Nataruk but I want to use more bows for Koumei and Loki" I said

[eternal prism]

Yes and a wide arrow

[opal leaf]

"Yes yes! I love IBPT guns!!!! Especially bows!" I said in excitement

[pulsar linden]

So, where should I start looking for the better mods?

Other than hoping baro brings what I need?

[lean tendon]

Start by doing Arbitrations and Orokin Vaults for corrupted mods and galvanized mods. Nightmare mode also has some great mods.

[wide verge]

why is this build immortal?

[pulsar linden]

The vaults are on the Deimos tileset?

[eternal prism]

U forgot aegis

[wide verge]

but it is still immortal

[pulsar linden]

Oh, that's going to suck.

[wide verge]

Is the aegis needed?

[eternal prism]

Yes for broke cd shields

[wide verge]

alr

[opal leaf]

"Fast Deflection makes the recharge to literally 0 (as I believe me, correct me if I'm wrong)" as I explained

[wide verge]

this would be good for weapon?

[wide verge]

So my question is why is aegis needed

[lean tendon]

Arbitration and Orokin Vault is what I would do first since they are ezpz. Arbitration RNG is only Vitus Essence drop but the mods themselves are bought using that currency. Meanwhile, Orokin Vault is very rng dependent since you can get the same mod.

[opal leaf]

"To break the recharge time" I said, looking at the my Gauss as I figure out the other builds, "if Fast Deflection make you able to refill your shields in a faster rate, Arcane Aegis breaks the recharge time to zero... Making it to keep recharging"

[eternal prism]

I don't know anything about the gauss platform, but if you're comfortable with it, you can use it like this.

[wide verge]

aa alr ty

[opal leaf]

"Hmm..." I look, sighing, "I need to do that as well, imma remove range for fast deflection"

[ruby peak]

Thoughts on my Xoris build? (other than pp not being primed)

[lean tendon]

Pure elec is better

[ruby peak]

Really?

[lean tendon]

Yeah, better weighting for melee influence

[ruby peak]

So what do I switch?

Do I just fully stack into elec with focus energy?

Or do I get like amalgam organ and smth else

[late hemlock]

It has guaranteed elec proc anyways so its not the biggest deal

But drop pressure point for killing blow its straight up a better mod

[ruby peak]

alright

So then whe I get rid of viral i'll have 2 empty slots

[late hemlock]

You can shove in blood rush and galv elementalist

[ruby peak]

Does Xoris build combo?

[warm obsidian]

Planning on replacing Primed Continuity for Archon, do I keep Melee Exposure or just use something else

[eternal prism]

Replace pressure point for talons
As for the valkyrie, I wouldn't recommend increasing the radius unless you use augment for 3 skill
You can leave 1-2 not corrupted mods for range
Because of the mechanics of the 1st skill, it doesn't need the radius as much as 3rd.
It is much more convenient in this regard.
In any case, start from what is more convenient for you

You can also use the slam mod for claws in case you suddenly need damage for a solo target

1heavy hit = slam

But if you don't need it, put something else

[lean tendon]

My bad you're right about the forced procs but imo adding elec mod and freeing up 2 mod slots will increase damage better like adding a Bane mod if not using Roar or adding something like Melee Elementalist

[ruby peak]

I added elementalist and organ shatter

The viral elec build is still dealing more dmg

nvm

[ruby peak]

or idk

[eternal prism]

I'm not sure about the glaives, of course. But u try add 90% elec?

[ruby peak]

Lemme ss the current version im usin now

with red crit elec is waaay better

this is what I got now, getting 907k red crits

[ruby peak]

(cuz kullervo)

[opal leaf]

It's always Kullervo + Xoris or Chroma + Xoris hahahaha

[ruby peak]

yep

[eternal prism]

In any case, I don't understand glaives, so I'll leave editing the build to someone else

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[quiet laurel]

go amalgam organ shatter instead of normal organ shatter

[ruby peak]

I would except I dont have it yet

[quiet laurel]

sad

otherwise looks like a normal glaive influence build

[ruby peak]

I dont really need more wind up speed tho

[ruby peak]

nicee

[quiet laurel]

actually replace voltaic strike with base dmg

[ruby peak]

lemme see if this works

[quiet laurel]

you said you use it with kullervo so replace killing blow with either power throw, focus energy or corrupt charge

[ruby peak]

Power throw is multiplicative with pp so that makes sense

[eternal prism]

What do you think about blast furis

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[timid dust]

what stats should i be looking for?

[quiet laurel]

ass without xatas

with xatas its ight but requires xatas bubble to be headshots

cause otherwise dmg will tank hard

[eternal prism]

idk it fun build

It's weaker than heat, but it looks like it kills faster than heat if it 100-200lvl sp.

[quiet laurel]

with blast furis you are taking furis' biggest strength away which is its heat dots

so you need to hyperbuff it to make it feel good

[eternal prism]

I was actually surprised furis had such incredible dps

When toxocysts need to get into the head, he copes without it

[spiral chasm]

The advantage DT has is range

[velvet pulsar]

1024m hitscan range without dmg falloff

[velvet pulsar]

What do you think about blast Verglas?

[quiet laurel]

idk much abt sentinels atp cause I never use em

[velvet pulsar]

Resourceful Retriever dominance

[pine sedge]

what do i add for the last thing for this build? i was thinking maybe faction mod? (ignore the arcane)

[craggy niche]

Higasa serration is not on the website, it says that in the description

[craggy niche]

I actually just got him done

[static sphinx]

My bad then

[opal leaf]

With Rev, you are invincible

[warm obsidian]

Man...
Why are all Valkyr build I see run negative efficiency

[opal leaf]

Bc damage over effeciency

That's what they like

[warm obsidian]

Damage locked behind 4

[raw hollow]

can someone rate a riven for me?

[opal leaf]

I know.... It's them

[eternal prism]

☠️

[opal leaf]

.... Uh oh

[loud birch]

The build is working pretty well but for once I don't know what second arcane I should use any proposition?

[tranquil plover]

anyone got a good nuker vauban

for his 3rd

[loud birch]

Photon Spam or just a really strong Photon Strike?

[tranquil plover]

either

[tranquil plover]

also maybe run arcane circumvent for this, makes survival easy

[loud birch]

Ok thanks. For the nuke build just take the one I sent but replace Tesla Bank by Photon Repeater and use bastille to activate Vauban's passive while spamming Photon Strike and if you want it to do more damage primed continuity can go for more strength

[tranquil plover]

what about shards

[loud birch]

I use 2 strength, 1 duration, 1 casting speed and 1 equilibrium

[versed harbor]

5x casting speed ez

[violet silo]

bcuz energy isn't rare

[wide verge]

I got laetum and phenmor. When shall I use phenmor and when laetum?

[eternal prism]

both looks like solo target

Laetum can also be used as a trash killer, but it is not very effective

[wide verge]

uh what gun is good for clearing waves?

[eternal prism]

sec or primary

[wide verge]

Whatever has the best

[violet silo]

laetum's like phenmor but better and secondary, essentially

[eternal prism]

Depends on preference. boar akarius ocucor latron strun

that's all I remembered right away

[wide verge]

For primary I guess

[eternal prism]

ogris nukor

[violet silo]

those are primaries and secondaries, kinda confusing

[wide verge]

uh any other

[eternal prism]

He asked for anything... well, I wrote everything in a row

arca plasmor maybe

[violet silo]

tenet arca plasmor

not normal

[eternal prism]

idk I rarely use my primary weapon for clear

[wide verge]

What are those random guns

😭

[violet silo]

...guns

good guns

[eternal prism]

google

[wide verge]

Are those available to buy in warframe market

[eternal prism]

incranons nope

[wide verge]

rip

can laetum still be used for lvl cap clearing?

Or I might aswell use torid incarnon for clearing and laetum for singel. Is that good?

[violet silo]

sure but it isnt really a trash clearing weapon

it can do it ofc

[eternal prism]

yes ofc

[eternal prism]

here only roar+uskos and some without roar

[paper isle]

Does anyone have an op umbra and his exalted build

[eternal prism]

In any case, the weapon copes better against solo target

[vagrant berry]

Laetum build pls

[eternal prism]

swap elementalist and 60/60 to 90 if not use uskos
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Zid-An_Uskos

[clear gale]

Anybody there minds helping me with an acceltra build?

[honest rose]

anyone have nuke build for ember?

[eternal prism]

I don't recommend using it. It doesn't do much damage and is tied to los

[clear gale]

Hello you. ^^
Thank you for that information!

[eternal prism]

but im about nuke ember... not acceltra

[clear gale]

Yes yes, I know, don't worry. 😂

[mighty flare]

Easiest would be breach surge or like thermal sunder ig?

[violet silo]

lol

if you subsume a nuke onto a frame, you can now nuke with that frame

[random oasis]

hi how can i improve this

i finally decided to give garuda prime a try

[fierce lark]

does subsumed sunder even do more damage than spamming inferno

[mighty flare]

Yes

[eternal prism]

(secret roar)

[regal shore]

So I haven't played garuda but I'm pretty sure she heals herself with her abilities or ability right? In 1 way or another, so archon intensify would go well here

And of course the obvious, maxed out mods and arcanes

You can also do growing power aura mod for even more ability strength

[random oasis]

i subsumed it

[random oasis]

i use molt reconstruct to heal

but i think i should farm it to get it rank 1 at least

[eternal prism]

she can heal by 2nd skill
but it useless
arcane or equilibrium also way for heal

and sustain energy

[regal shore]

Fair enough, I still say growing power is good here

It's an easy extra 25% strength

[eternal prism]

garuda not want a lot str

1 mod for str more then enought if without subsume

[regal shore]

It's with subsume tho

[eternal prism]

but he use roar

[regal shore]

Ye ye

[violet silo]

you cannot. that very well may be the best build I've ever seen. not sure anything can compete.
-# I dont play garuda. I would recommend umbral intensify over regular tho, and recommend a better aura.

[random oasis]

oh

so i guess just level stuff up

[eternal prism]

(I don't know why he needs it, of course, if Garuda kills any level)

[late hemlock]

Depends on how you want to play

For ball spam you want max range

[random oasis]

what mod could be better than dreamers bond

[late hemlock]

Literally anything because dreamer is worthless lol

[random oasis]

lol

[late hemlock]

But tbh auras are not a huge deal either way, so if you dont have replacements its fine

[random oasis]

yea i dont , should i farm for brief respite

[violet silo]

not anything

[eternal prism]

if u put catal shields only

[violet silo]

there's always infested impedance

[late hemlock]

Brief is pretty good on her but also I wouldn't bother to go out of your way to farm

[random oasis]

alr thx for the advices

[late hemlock]

generally for caster you want max range with secondary investment in strength and as much casting speed as possible through shards

[violet silo]

and some are actively detrimental as well

[craggy niche]

Lol ive been doing this funny thing where I run rakta dark dagger on xaku and its honestly frigging awesome lol

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[craggy niche]

Not only do i just perma stay alive cuz rdd does shield siphon through influence but blight triggers as often as it cools down so it helps alot with energy and primes viral

[clever stump]

question. Would Cascadia Empowered be a good Arcane on the Arbucep?

[random oasis]

i have 4 yellow shards

[clever stump]

the Arbucep being Nokko's Archgun

[violet silo]

dont think so

arbucep has a base crit multi of 2.9x, just run enervate

[clever stump]

i don't got many Arch Gun Mods. sadly

[late hemlock]

this is what im using most of the time

some meme stuff with mecha pulse for funny mecha procs because she doesnt really need a further boost

[craggy niche]

Just do hilsryns arch gun

[violet silo]

hollowed bullets? critical focus?

[late hemlock]

if you wanted to make it stronger you would add vigorous swap so you can release the ball faster

[craggy niche]

Wait so Nokko gets a arch gun?

[clever stump]

only got Hollowed bullets out of those two

[violet silo]

yep so did qorvex

but I believe qorvex's archgun is like him

y'know
shit
handsome with a lovely personality

[craggy niche]

Qorvex isnt bad hes just very stationary

[clever stump]

Nokko's Arch Gun deals lot's of status effects

each shot deals 1 of 6 combined elements

[violet silo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1153013372820934716/1482519987146064106/meme.gif

give him some buffs and some skins

[lean tendon]

Mandonel is cool though

[violet silo]

ppl might actually use him

[lean tendon]

I like the Archgun design of it

[eternal prism]

stop how much 4nd skill have status chance for viral

with nourish

[violet silo]

look at this cutie patootie

[late hemlock]

didnt calc or test but its relatively high?

either way garuda is extremely spammy so you will be applying a ton of it

[eternal prism]

It depends on whether I use the augment or not.
cus for augment I need a slightly different build

[late hemlock]

when are you not using blending talons tbf

i wouldnt even bother touching 4 otherwise ngl

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-garuda-captura-gif-22509153

[eternal prism]

They are used for something slightly different, which I can't talk about

[late hemlock]

is it a secret? lol

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[violet silo]

teehee

[eternal prism]

Yes, it's a fun thing what can they fix

In any case, I still need a slightly different build to test

[late hemlock]

garuda is definitely a frame that allows for some build diversity but at the same time ball is so strong that i dont see myself doing anything else

[eternal prism]

I wonder if this works with volt augment

for influence...

[random oasis]

tysm

[late hemlock]

this is the same one with vigswap if you want to compare the ttk / damage

its definitely optimal but i cba and the former one is fine for me

no clue what happens with the vfx there lol

[random oasis]

and is it worth using her talons

or should i stick with broken war and orthos prime

[eternal prism]

good melee

have good stats

[late hemlock]

the talons are definitely very strong but if you already invested your resources into other melees i dont think its very worth?

not useful for archimedea since it occupies a reward spot, and since its only usable on garuda, the frame with a 30m no line of sight aoe instanuke its definitely up to you

compared to something like excal or hildryn where the exalted is THE way to play them its a bit more nuanced for garuda

[eternal prism]

It's the same as with sevagoth

[random oasis]

so this?

[late hemlock]

well at least with sevagoth his 4 can be used without you actually unequipping a weapon lol

[late hemlock]

eh i dont think duration is worth it at all since she can spam abilities infinitely, id rather push it out for stretch

but generally thats the idea, just learn the 1 cancel

[eternal prism]

u anyway use roar here

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[late hemlock]

id rather subsume gloom and keep 4 since it has a bunch of uses, though thats personal preference i suppose

but sure i do agree with you that its a niche investment

and if you wanna save resources just dump his 4 for the subsume

[random oasis]

oh i just realized why i had strength a lot

isnt it to maximise my roar buff

[late hemlock]

strength is good, its just secondary in priority to range

personally id much rather nourish over roar but up to you

[regal shore]

yeah

more strength, stronger roar

[random oasis]

i wanted to get nourish but is a pain farming it

[late hemlock]

i feel you

[random oasis]

i have the locators but doing it alone is a pain

[late hemlock]

but it is a lot better than roar for garuda since not only does it give the ball more straight up damage, it buffs energy regen on the 3 and it makes her 4 apply viral all over

id definitely go for it

[random oasis]

i will try searching for some1 to help

[eternal prism]

speaking of which, I tested it and roar is already better with 1 strength mod.

but in general it's not for me to tell you what to use

[waxen spire]

How I can shoot fast with Hildryn?
This is my build rn and I saw some poeple shooting soo fast with him

[earnest saddle]

chances are they had reinforced bond on their companion, which is another 60% fire rate

there's also anemic agility which is 90% fire rate

[green gyro]

aegis gale alt fire

[eternal prism]

viral will only cause more dmg when it hits the ball itself. But that's something of a margin of error—somewhere around 2% more damage.

[late hemlock]

hmm thats weird because roar is 30% at base and nourish is 45% at base, both are multiplicative to ball

[waxen spire]

I use that

[eternal prism]

with 1 stack viral and nourish slash do 43k dmg per tick

[late hemlock]

you need sources of firerate

[eternal prism]

after 4 and 1

roar do 73k

[late hemlock]

its less about the slash and more about raw damage

[eternal prism]

i put only 55str mod

[late hemlock]

yes roar will dip into the tick but nourish gives the ball 50% more damage upfront comparatively

[eternal prism]

then the difference there is even smaller. somewhere around 2%.

with on;y 55% str mod

[waxen spire]

You have any builds for it, I looked on yt and they do not have fire rate and still shoot fast

[late hemlock]

generally i only use reinforced bond, its enough for firerate imo

id use amalgam furax but cba to farm it

[waxen spire]

From where I can get Reinforced Bond?

[eternal prism]

In any case, if it's more convenient for you, then why not? I tried all the options for dealing damage

[earnest saddle]

The mod can be bought from The Business for 20,000 after reaching Rank 3 - Doer with Solaris United.

[late hemlock]

one of the open world vendors i forgot

[vagrant berry]

Thanks! Just seeing now

[wild rune]

I have both Reinforced Bond and Arcane Velocity on my Hildryn, which makes her shoot incredibly fast

[waxen spire]

Unfortunatly i cant trade anymore today, ty btw

[eternal prism]

When a companion dies it's not funny anymore🐟

But there is one way

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

[thick bison]

Wow, it's such a pain that stinky doggo effect of [Anabolic Pollination] doesn't affect exalted weapons :(

[thick bison]

When Titania stows away pet, the pet is constant buff without ever dying

[eternal prism]

This is an exception to the rule

🥺

[thick bison]

Yeah, a nice exception

[eternal prism]

Delete titania then

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[olive harness]

hey guys, is redirection the only mod with shield capacity? I'm very close to maxing it out but idk if I should

[eternal prism]

And why do you need it?

[wild rune]

my moa friend don't die anyway
Link Shields + Blast Shield is such overkill but so funny to see the guy suddenly get 10000 shield just for kicking someone in the face

[olive harness]

huh

[eternal prism]

There were a couple more mods if I'm not mistaken

I don't remember the name

[odd dome]

primed redirection, boreal mod, vigor, new arcane. you can dissolve it later when you get the primed one.

[eternal prism]

Try level cap then
Grenade>companion

[olive harness]

I have calculated redirection too yeah

oh

nvm it's companion

[eternal prism]

Let's all forget about the existence of hldryn when there is a revenant

https://tenor.com/view/taiho-shichau-zo-teehee-anime-youre-under-arrest-ova-gif-21342147

[wild rune]

I have Stasis Field to weaken grenades as well

[wild rune]

or Oberon

[eternal prism]

Besides grenades, there are eximus that hit the floor

They also one-shot the companion

[wild rune]

yea not much I can do about blitz

[eternal prism]

Nox☠️

Eximus nox☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

[wild rune]

companion should've just dodged better

[eternal prism]

Why not stay afk

I don't know, sometimes they get buggy and you can't see them lol

[wild rune]

lmao

[eternal prism]

Invisible toxin balls with one-shot☠️

[wild rune]

I'll always find excuses to use moas when obviously hounds are almost always better
idk why but I just love the little buggers

[eternal prism]

Burgers

[pallid quiver]

How does oberon’s tanking work?

[wild rune]

when do we get the ability to upgrade moas to ambulas models and mount an archgun on top of them

[wild rune]

he picks up a health orb and everyone in radius gets a stack of mesmer skin, because we needed more mesmer skins in the game

[wild rune]

could you imagine the priming capabilities of an ambulas moa walking around with a larkspur

[pallid quiver]

Ohh

How do u get more health orbs to drop

Is there a mod for that

[earnest saddle]

synth deconstruct, but they're plenty common as is

[quiet laurel]

I love DEs approach to health tanking
"guys look we made a health tanking frame that can survive well"
looks inside
invincibility

[pallid quiver]

Well at higher levels the amount of damage the enemies do is like

A lot

[wild rune]

at this point the only true health tankers are valkyr and persistence inaros lmao

[quiet laurel]

not even valkyr

[wild rune]

and even then valkyr typically just shield gates and passive bots anyway

[quiet laurel]

valkyr has her passive so no reason to go health tank

you can survive with just her passive

[wild rune]

inaros is amusing, especially when darude sandstorm starts playing in the background

[pallid quiver]

Any health tank without enough upfront mitigation (persistence or enough armor to stop a nuke) will just lose all of its health in like .1 seconds anyways at higher levels when damage per instance taken isn’t capped

[rigid sierra]

Should i put brightbonnet over uriel's 1 for infinite energy?

[quiet laurel]

armor wont stop nukes at higher levels

legit the only way to make health tanking decent rn is via persistence

[wild rune]

Uriel doesn't really have energy problems
Equilibrium gives you like 400+ energy whenever Gulphagor hugs a face

[quiet laurel]

and even then its more investment than a shield gate build

so the only frame where persistence is effective on is inaros

[severe bough]

Shield gate > everything else

[versed harbor]

I see some persistence nidus but I disagree with it pretty heavy

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

Vazarin still gives more survivability to almost every frame

[severe bough]

Could be the most common yt thumbnail

[wild rune]

nidus doesn't feel like he has enough health to sustain it until you just get max stacks of parasitic vitality
and even then you have 30sec of undying at the absolute minimum at that point

[eternal prism]

Use vazarin and everything will be fine

🐟

[wild rune]

🎣

[eternal prism]

☠️

[pallid quiver]

Yea exactly

[violet silo]

ah... yes... cuz primed redirection is the best form of survivability

[eternal prism]

vazarin

[violet silo]

oh right 2nd best

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[hollow plover]

need any change?

[eternal prism]

if u newbie no
if not swap 2 umbra mods atleast

[hollow plover]

swap to what

you mean forma the slot?

[eternal prism]

At least other mods. I can't tell you which ones specifically because frames can be built differently

[craggy niche]

Idk to say health tankers aren't viable is pretty much false. Most good health tank builds will be fine all the way up until the 3-5k range then things get dicey.

You dont even run into stuff like that unless you go out of your way to get to it like doing void cascade or circuit for hours on end. To say theyre not optimal for the very tippy top echelon of content the game can offer is correct, but for general steel path and even most endurance stuff dr stacking with health is fine

[quiet laurel]

its still insanely modding inefficient

you cant argue against that

1 mod is legit less than 2 or more and maybe an arcane

quick mafs

[craggy niche]

My jade is pretty much my go to at cap and shes mostly stacked resistances with adaptation. Granted she has fast deflection and her shield song but jades not super hungry for str either

[quiet laurel]

adaptation at cap is actually crazy

[craggy niche]

Its fine with enough sources of outside dr

[quiet laurel]

its not

not on jade

[craggy niche]

50 percent on her passively by being airborne, boreal on a polearm, aerodynamic, and the aura is more than enough to tank a couple hits

Plus you basically never get hit as jade if youre playing her correctly

Not to mention passive gate with deflection and her shield song stacked

[quiet laurel]

you are surviving off of passive gating at cap

the DR does close to nothing

wasted mod slots

[craggy niche]

Not really but you doo you sweetie pie

Stay salty

[quiet laurel]

why you always coming up with this salty bit 😭

this is a humane discussion about builds

[craggy niche]

Because you argue about everything and youre salty as hell

And have shit takes most of the time

[quiet laurel]

@mighty flare do you see this

[craggy niche]

He has, the meats

[mighty flare]

Lazy gating with deflection and shield song with just dodging around does make dr redundant at cap

That’s true

[quiet laurel]

even valkyr health tanking before persistence was somewhat viable but could only survive a handful of hits and had her passive proc multiple times
and she legit has like multiple thousand armor, adaptation, AND a damage reduction subsume to make this a thing (iirc aerodynamics and shi too)
like 3 DR stacks wont make jades shields viable at cap

[craggy niche]

Regardless none of this disregards my aforementioned point of saying health or dr stacking is useless is factually wrong. Most players aren't playing at cap all the time, actually hardly ever, probably even the ones that have these takes included. Saying that shits useless and everyone should just red pill the cata bug just to play the game is bad information

[quiet laurel]

not saying its not viable

[craggy niche]

Plenty of chars survive just fine just off of dr in most content, citrine and mesa for example

[quiet laurel]

its just inefficient and if you care about modding efficiency, there is no reason to do so

[craggy niche]

In aforementioned chars theres no reason to add shield gating because its more complicated and inefficient than just running adaptation and calling it a day

[mighty flare]

dr at cap and dr for base sp are different scenarios, dr for low is totally okay, dr at cap does nothing for most frames

[craggy niche]

Yes but almost noone plays at cap all the time. Most of the game is well below those thresholds. Hell even with circuit you gotta be like 10 rounds in to breach l1000

And at that point youre so op because of rolls that it doesn't matter, but regardless lol

[mighty flare]

You were talking about dr for cap

[craggy niche]

Nope my original point was what ive regurgitating the last four or five messages lol.

Dr does hekp my jade at cap because she can tank a hit or two before she gates again which makes her immensely less stressful to play

She carries a 50 percent dr innately and having 90 from adapt, 40 from aero, 28 from the aura, and 20 from boreal on a polearm is actually a pretty chunky amount of stacked resist, yes the passive gate is what ultimately allows her to be in play but just passive gate alone would not be enough at these levels of play for me

[hollow plover]

so how does incarnon work?

[craggy niche]

You charge it and then it becomes super saiyan

[craggy niche]

Which facet of it are you referring to

[hollow plover]

i just unlocked one for gammacor and idk what to do or what its supposed to do

[craggy niche]

You have to go to zarimann to install it

[hollow plover]

do i have any pre requisite?

[craggy niche]

Also I would get a synoid gammacor its the better of the two

[hollow plover]

oh i dint do angels of zariman yet

[lucid flint]

you should do that

[craggy niche]

Incarnon are like a more accessible and less annoying way to get weapons like Koda and tenet

But they have a charge mechanic

You also need materials from the duviri mode and the pathos clamps

Pathos I would farm independently on the left node and just go into duviri in solo and farm to your hearts content for the other mats

[wild rune]

the second you start directly farming pathos clamps, you're going to despise duviri for the rest of your playtime

trust me, I hate duviri because of it

[quiet laurel]

I did some mafs and a heavy gunner at cap would deal 1.6k dmg with a single shot to your jades shields

unless you roll, which gives an additional 75% DR of course

but since thats a singular shot I heavily doubt that that much investment into the DR is doing much

since for passive gate you dont even need to do anything other than pray that you dont hit the worst case scenario of 0.8 seconds of vulnerability

[hollow plover]

wait is the incarnon just a single time use? so if i use it on the normal one its gone and dusted?

[violet silo]

nah

you can take it off

resources need to be spent tho

[thorn oak]

anybody know what the kompressa primes riven dispo is

[hollow plover]

so if i use these can i just take back that incarnon genesis back?

[violet silo]

yep, just the genesis

[violet silo]

0.60x
for future reference, the wiki exists.

[thorn oak]

🤯

[craggy niche]

No its just more efficient to do it right the first time

Synoid is like 8p or something like that if youre lazy or just super easy rank purchase from seph

[eternal prism]

dams voruna oneshot level cap with skills

unexpected and pleasant\

[hollow plover]

... 35 plat

yeah im gonna upgrade sephalon to 5

[static sphinx]

Is higasa decent compared to other weapons without a prime version?

[violet silo]

iirc higasa kinda sucks

havent played but think thats the general consensus

[mighty flare]

Yeah it’ll be okay

[eternal prism]

☠️

[solemn kiln]

what would be a god roll for a plasmor riven

[fierce lark]

FR MS tox with a negative probably

dispo is so low and shotgun’s base crit mods are so weak that crit stats probably aren’t even good, if you can get a tox riven to fill the fire rate slot you can at least make corrosive/viral without losing a primed mod or a slot

i wouldn’t roll a plasmor riven but if you were going to id probably want fire rate + toxin with dmg/ms optional

[safe ore]

Is there anyway to make the Grimoire melt things in steel path or is it really only good for utility

[quiet laurel]

dmg on plasmor is huge cause of multi gunCO

[fierce lark]

it is but most of it comes from arcane, dmg on a mod is for pre-stack qol

[solemn kiln]

just trying to put a primary together that wont take a couple days to kill some one in steel path x.x

cause this is the best i got

[dense pumice]

Anyone got a good pre steel path build for Atlas prime

[craggy niche]

Damn lol thats a decent chunk

[fierce lark]

the syndicate weapons are all somewhere around 40p

which is where they should be based on the mods being 25k and costing 8-10p, and the weapons being 4-5x that price

[safe ore]

Would i be better off using Arcane Aegis or circumvent for survivability on Nova

[craggy niche]

Circumvent is pretty cool but gimmicky

[safe ore]

Im getting destroyed in cascade even with her augment

[craggy niche]

Gotta make sure you have a couple parkour sources

[safe ore]

It’s definitely a skill issue so im just looking for something extra until i get the hand of it

[quiet laurel]

aegis and shield gating

i. e. catalyzing shields and then an augur mod on your secondary

[safe ore]

Ill give it a try thank you

[icy urchin]

im primarily using a kubrow just to hold mecha set and trigger it but im having issues with it dying a lot, my build is fairly low investment atm but are there any mods u guys would rlly recommend to help with it not dying

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-soup-my-blade-githyanki-quality-so-you-know-it's-good-gif-12192236967424097653

[icy urchin]

id also add that im using them for yareli a lot so probably not pack leader on them

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1359267439564685489/1441237521408200767/image.gif

with Vazarin, you can throw all your survival mods in the trash and have relax

[sonic folio]

Who has primed redirection bro

[worn rover]

any recommendation for aoe gun?

[eternal prism]

What aoe gun

[fierce lark]

me

it make hildryn shield big

[eternal prism]

❌

[worn rover]

for celaring room kind tired using phantasm kind need someting new for mr 10

[eternal prism]

Ogris kuva🐟

[still furnace]

What frame you usually run with?

[icy urchin]

i main yareli nezha and limbo but mainly yareli

[eternal prism]

How u die with yareli?😨

[still furnace]

Try a link mod.

[icy urchin]

no i mean the dog not me xd

[bold elbow]

The dog always die

:c

[icy urchin]

the dog is dead like 70% of the time so i get like no marks from mecha set

[eternal prism]

What conclusion should be drawn from this?

[still furnace]

Yareli shouldn't have multiple pets.

[icy urchin]

i literally dont need it to attack in any capacity i just need to to remain alive for marks

[eternal prism]

It's easier to throw away such a mechanic than to use it. It's incredibly inconvenient

[still furnace]

Evasive posture and Link redirection?

[bold elbow]

I ate it

Nom nom

[icy urchin]

link redirection could be somewhat of a play cus i do run a lot of shield and shield recharge on yareli atm

[eternal prism]

Nope use vazarin

[still furnace]

I dont know if evasive posture messes with mecha set triggers.

[eternal prism]

Vazarin>revenant>torid

[icy urchin]

isnt there a mod that makes companions invisible is that useful at all

[bold warren]

Here is my stuff. New Tenno so please don’t yell xD

[still furnace]

Covert bond. But you need to get finisher/mercy kills.

[icy urchin]

ah yeah that was it

thats kinda awkward for yareli specifically

[quiet laurel]

looks ight for what you have
def try getting continuity on your volt though

[bold warren]

Yeah IDK how

[quiet laurel]

forma

[bold warren]

Cause I have Volt Prime waiting to be claimed but I only got the bare necessities and want an open slot for Koumei and no Helminth yet

[icy urchin]

also orokin thing for double mod capacity

[quiet laurel]

I mean you have 79 plat, just buy more slot

buying slots is good plat investment at the beginning

[still furnace]

Yeah id try link redirection and maybe reinforced bond as well.

[bold warren]

I accidentally rushed a build so it woulda been 80 but also I’m a stingy bugger and am trying to save as much as I can

[icy urchin]

yeah ill give it a go ill look at them

also very random thing i wanna ask cus i saw it somewhere but dont know if its true, i heard yareli counts as airbourne for mods while on merulina

[still furnace]

No, don't think so.

[icy urchin]

i dont remember where i heard it but id imagine if it was true it would be built around a lot more so it makes sense

[bold warren]

So somehow I have a 60/60 Mod but IDK if its any good

[still furnace]

They are all good.

[icy urchin]

they are in fact pretty core to a lot of things

[sonic folio]

Electric ones sell for fat bucks

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-soup-my-blade-githyanki-quality-so-you-know-it's-good-gif-12192236967424097653

[bold warren]

Its not that

[bold elbow]

Dayum, don't have any

[violet silo]

always

especially the tox and elec ones

[charred gale]

Heard theres kisses here

[lean tendon]

Toxin ones are easy to get as well since they are guaranteed drops from Vor. Your only problem is getting duplicates.

[arctic heath]

Y'all ever try to make a build but just slap the same mods on everyone?

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-swing-gif-14837596563859224828

[lean tendon]

Most of the builds I have are like 50% of the mods equipped are the same.

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/orlin-nikocado-avocado-cake-orlin-cake-nikocado-cake-surprise-gif-23441339

[sonic folio]

When u find another twin in lobby as grendel

[charred gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860060416650379264/1289398997815136297/GrendelFull.webp

[sonic folio]

I saw this guy's blackhole

[arctic heath]

Intensify, Flux, Stretch, Continuity, and Aerodinamize

[quiet laurel]

yo builds discussion wilding (same)

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/i-guess-bro-i-guess-bro-bro-what-whatever-you-say-gif-16572066316579867256

[sonic folio]

You can see the grendel's black hole in pic

[sonic folio]

You're indeed a chud

[charred gale]

Im such a fat sub 3 chud

[violet silo]

aerodynamic?

[bold warren]

@lean tendon Here anyway since ya asked but I do plan to use Nataruk when I can

[lean tendon]

Yeah I saw while traveling but others already gave better tips ngl

[bold warren]

My bad

[arctic heath]

Yeah, that

[violet silo]

what

why

and what's flux?

[thorn oak]

the phantasma is amazing

and i just realized i did not use its alt fire a single time

im running blast corrosive idk if thats the best for it but it feels amazing and i dont even got a forma in it

[eternal prism]

Secret blast phantasma with low base damage

[earnest saddle]

phantasma with debilitate+elementalist

(assuming you have steel path unlocked)

[thorn oak]

yea this is what i got right now

im gonna forma and make some changes specifically chilling reload

[eternal prism]

For future
Heat corr+magnet better

[sonic folio]

This is but malice and lies

Baiting people so he can have all the viral mods for himself

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202303293146013738/1241886904744542299/attachment.gif

[thorn oak]

why would i mod heat on the phantasma if i have debilitate and it stacks heat

[potent flint]

Whats the best robotic weapon for nautilus? I want a primer weapon

[eternal prism]

higher base heat damage, the more ticks it deals.
Also, in your case, you won’t be able to accumulate them constantly

[eternal prism]

Verglas

[potent flint]

Works like a primer?

[eternal prism]

No works like oneshot any lvl

[bold elbow]

Isn't there a tad bit too much status mods ?

[keen pasture]

i wanna slide a riven mod for occucor here but idk what i need and put it instead of what

[eternal prism]

What riven stats

[keen pasture]

thats the thing
Idk whats best for it

[thorn oak]

okay but why do i wanna stack heat when the blast kills everything before it even really matters

[eternal prism]

Check market but cc is scam

[keen pasture]

so status and damage?

[eternal prism]

Because phantzama is a solo target anyway

It's inferior in such builds

[thorn oak]

yea but thats the beauty of it being solo target is that due to me having blast I can kill a group

[eternal prism]

Idk
I didn't watch it. Besides, I want to sleep

[keen pasture]

good night

[eternal prism]

Just take aoe gun for sec

[thorn oak]

which in steel path is a lot nicer to have rather than killing one enemy at a time

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-meme-silly-cat-silly-weep-gif-16415733508326637886

[eternal prism]

I don't know why u would come up with something that works worse than other similar weapon... But okay

[thorn oak]

if i used nautilus why would i want to kill one enemy at a time when I can have blast and kill every single enemy in the grouping instead

[eternal prism]

But nautilus oneshot entrie room

[thorn oak]

yea if you have a slop build

[eternal prism]

Wdym

[eternal prism]

Stiil wdym

[thorn oak]

I use nautilus strictly for grouping

[eternal prism]

But carry Nautilus also uses this mod.

Wdym

[thorn oak]

and okay whether nautilus kills everything or not what does that change

youre saying i should rely on my companion then or what

[eternal prism]

Well, it's just that you could take for example boar and it would work much better

In any case, I don't care what you use. I was just giving advice

[thorn oak]

i could use a torid incarnon and it would be better but whats the point if Im not wanting to use it

[eternal prism]

Nope

I've already written everything above. I won't repeat it

[opal leaf]

Group them, shoot Boar and BOOM! ERASED

Wait why did I reply.... Ugh

[thorn oak]

I have the boar and the boar is great but using the same loadout constantly is what makes you not want to play the game anymore

[eternal prism]

Isnt game about chat

[thorn oak]

what

[eternal prism]

What

[thorn oak]

what does that even mean

[bold elbow]

What

[eternal prism]

Sit in orbiter and write in chat

Defolt gameplay

[bold elbow]

Beg em to give u plat

[thorn oak]

youre right

[eternal prism]

Give me your plat

[bold elbow]

Nuhuh

[eternal prism]

Yes

[bold elbow]

I'll give u 1 percent

Which is -

[eternal prism]

Give me all

[bold elbow]

Gimme plat now

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234792425460072448/1212575251959914546/wf_trash.gif

[bold elbow]

Fair

[spark thorn]

What last evolution is best for bo incarnon?

[eternal prism]

What here

[spark thorn]

The impact procing slash looked neat

But wasnt sure

[eternal prism]

1 or 3
2 Looks useless

I don't remember build for 1

[modern yoke]

I'd appreciate help overhauling my Nidus for this Archon Hunt that's up right now

[solemn kiln]

if i use mods to make the nataruk silent will it not kick me out of stealth with ivara?

[modern yoke]

Yep

[solemn kiln]

sentient hunting i will go >:3

[craggy niche]

as someone that has none of them which of this weeks incarnon adapters look appealing?

bo incarnon furis furax and strun

[solemn kiln]

i dont like any of this weeks x.x

[undone dust]

furis and strun are my favorites
furax is a nice slam weapon
bo exists

[craggy niche]

those were gonna be my picks before i asked

thanks for reaffirming 👍

oh wtf titania's thing is spellbind for subsume?

[undone dust]

yessir

[craggy niche]

that's not actually a bad niche use thing

lol deep diving into the subsumes for this week apparently if you have inaros's 1 equipped via helminth and run it's augment the cats still spawn and spread the effects of his four

[solemn kiln]

is there any melee mods that have to do with stealth attacks? or would it be called finishers

[night laurel]

finishers iirc

[solemn kiln]

any suggestions ? this is for hunting sentients btw

[stray kayak]

Good Protea Prime build for SP?

[arctic heath]

Idk what it's called in English. The max energy mod.

[solemn kiln]

flow

[arctic heath]

Ah, that makes more sense

[violet silo]

all of those make sense for most frames except for aerodynamic

[arctic heath]

I don't use Aerodynamic on every frame but it sees use pretty often

[violet silo]

mod cold or rad

for sentient weakness

[violet silo]

why

[marsh wasp]

who's your Swiss army frame? Mine is Kullervo, I've got 2 of them with maxed omni + 1 umbra, and they can do everything, healing, stealth, tanking, weapons platform

[solemn kiln]

mine would be inaros or dante

[marsh wasp]

One of my Kullervo's, has a build Temu Inaros, using pocket sand + arcane reaper

[violet silo]

volt

john versatile himself

[stray kayak]

This a good build for Protea Prime?

[violet silo]

holy shit

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-looking-at-cat-confused-gif-25251297

[stray kayak]

This was my first time modding a prime frame T-T

[violet silo]

every archon mod

[arctic heath]

Channeled abilities.

[arctic heath]

Lavos

[violet silo]

huh?

[arctic heath]

Oh. Not that mod. The one that increases ability efficiency.

[solemn kiln]

primes are only slightly better then normal frames

[stray kayak]

Well basically modding ANY frame

That was me actually trying

[violet silo]

ohhhhh streamline

[arctic heath]

Oh

[violet silo]

rare that I run streamline tbh

[solemn kiln]

well if you dont know whats good about a frame you can always just use the basics

[violet silo]

lets start with
take off every single archon mod but vitality

[arctic heath]

when you build Gauss to go as fast for as long as possible but there's not enough space for you to need so much uptime on his 1

[solemn kiln]

streamline. intensify, stretch, continuity, vigor, vitality, redirection

[violet silo]

gas city is peak for this

I had 30 seconds of straight running yesterday

it felt so good

[solemn kiln]

and as you play more and get to know the frame and how you wanna play em you can change the mods then

[violet silo]

add normal stretch, intensify, continuity, flow

[opal leaf]

I wanna laugh, but I cannot.... Because I've been there

Putting everything I have even tho it doesn't make sense

[violet silo]

well, vigor vit redirection are too much

especially protea

[solemn kiln]

for a new person?

[violet silo]

who is just... immortal

[opal leaf]

Protea doesnt need those

Her 1 is enough tbh

[solemn kiln]

and i just said that as a basic any time you start a new frame to learn them

[opal leaf]

Wait Melpomene, does FAST Deflection works fine for Protea?

[violet silo]

or, y'know, the ability that just stops her from dying

[solemn kiln]

oh and flow

[opal leaf]

Yea her 4 hahaha

Anyways, does Fast Deflection work on Protea?

[violet silo]

different from gus

[opal leaf]

Oh how so?

[violet silo]

she doesnt reduce recharge delay

she increases immunity

[opal leaf]

Hmm mm does Cata work on her? I haven't tried it yet

[solemn kiln]

amd i wrong to suggest using streamline. intensify, stretch, continuity, vigor, vitality, redirection, and flow as a basic starting mod set for a frame you dont know what it is or how you wanna play it?

[arctic heath]

I can't turn fast on console

[violet silo]

I think augurs are close enough to starting

[opal leaf]

I thought Augur are bad for Protea

[violet silo]

this is for general stuff

and idk

[solemn kiln]

im just suggesting a starter build for a warframe you have no idea what to do with xD

i mean thats the build i used for nokko when i first ran into him and he was getting red crits in the mils i was scared xD

[modern yoke]

Anyone mind helping me edit my old Volt Prime Discharge build into 1 more viable for farming Jade Parts?

I should probably start with swapping out Augur Reach for Equilibrium

[violet silo]

yeah yeah he does that unmodded

[solemn kiln]

yeah i realized that xD he is a low key god

[violet silo]

think it needs more duration

and corrosive projection

try an armor strip subsume perhaps

terrify

[modern yoke]

Alright, what would you recommend replacing?

New build after the current edits btw

Oh wait! I can swap out Intensify here, I have the Precision variant

[violet silo]

streamline, I think

wait you dont have energy hm

lets go with augur secrets

switch stretch for archon

[modern yoke]

I don't have any Archon Mods yet, just unlocked base Kahl's Camp today

[violet silo]

mm

you have helminth?

[hushed harbor]

are there any companions that synergize really well with Valkyr

[violet silo]

I like diriga

moar priming

[hushed harbor]

i do have a Diriga build

[violet silo]

put synth decon in

and momentous

[hushed harbor]

i dont use equilibrium

wait

maybe i do

i do i was thinking of another frame XD

[surreal tusk]

what should i change in my nataruk build? (its for prime zephyr)

[violet silo]

just upgrade mods, this is pretty good