builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

tazicor AM is better for gun setups, arc coil doesn't do anything if you're never within 10m of enemies

tazicor also lets you get rbond, diriga doesn't

[tepid scaffold]

Arc coil/electro + coolant = every status every time every 5s

[fierce lark]

i understand that, but it doesn't work if you're never within 10m of enemies

i cant speak for anyone else but im rarely that close to anything unless im meleeing

[tepid scaffold]

Reinforced bond?

[fierce lark]

ye, you can equip it on naut/wyrm

[tepid scaffold]

Many many many loadouts for lvl cap stuff appreciate that priming and soft crowd control

[tepid scaffold]

Yeah and the fire rate isn't needed as often as the other stuff

Manifold bond also procs archon stretch

[eternal prism]

Xaku with roar...

Hmmmmmmmmm

[fierce lark]

i already know this is a mistake but im gonna go ahead and ask anyway

are we talking about levelcap?

[cursive peak]

See, and then you've got builds like mine that have 100% uptime of energy drain, so I don't bother because archon stretch has no benefit for me

[near vortex]

I mean
you don't need to CO prime for content that isn't level cap

[novel bear]

That’s why diriga is for melee and dethcube/hounds are for not melee

[fierce lark]

you don't, but refer to the above point that if you're not meleeing, there's a good chance enemies are never getting within 10m of you to ever proc coolant leak or arc coil

that was my point

[eternal prism]

Even for lvlcap this is not necessary

[novel bear]

Not running encumber

[eternal prism]

Im also

Just kill the mobs without it. Theyre squishy

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[near vortex]

unless your name is Garuda or other pure caster frame here you'll probably be CO priming for endurance

[cursive peak]

The 'hardest' part of level cap is not getting one-shot on accident. The killing is the same as non-level cap

[fierce lark]

eh kinda

[novel bear]

Acid shells?

[eternal prism]

I killed cap even without a platform, there is nothing difficult about it

[novel bear]

Survivability challenge caps at around 1k, doesn’t get harder to survive after that

[near vortex]

The acid shells frames usually run galv savvy on the Sobek
Acid Shells needs one kill to chain

[novel bear]

Killing does

[eternal prism]

Just do build

[cursive peak]

Anymore, unless you're new or just avoid meta builds like a plague, it's hard to find people running levelcap regularly who can't kill the entire room relatively fast

[near vortex]

Saryn can kinda just shred thraxes with the Sobek because she just does that much damage with it

And usually there's enough elements already on the Sobek that it primes itself

[fierce lark]

base sp cascade heavy gunners have like 300k hp

levelcap ones have 20x that

so it's a little harder

[near vortex]

Viral toxin corrosive IPS and progenitor

[eternal prism]

Gun issue
Even if you have a frame of some weak platform, this is enough

[cursive peak]

And there are... how many weapons now that can be used to hit damage cap?

I lost track

[eternal prism]

I often test weapons without a platform
So far my favorite is latron.

[fierce lark]

?

what are you even referring to

[near vortex]

112m raw damage assuming no armor strip to kill a cap Thrax, I think is the number

[fierce lark]

calling one of/the strongest weapons platform in the game useless is pretty top tier bait tho gg

[cursive peak]

Agreed, that's bait, but pretending level cap is hard when there's more ways to do it than most people will ever even bother with is also kinda silly

[fierce lark]

no like saying saryn is useless xd

levelcap is definitely hard if you're not used to it or you're not playing something like gauss or jade that auto-lives

[near vortex]

Saryn Sobek is kinda nasty
Was playing it in Fissure the other day on attacker

[cursive peak]

I've solo'd level cap on Nyx once since her rework... It's relatively boring

[near vortex]

Yeah press 4 and shoot things
She's one of the lazier cap frames fs

[cursive peak]

Yup

[fierce lark]

saryn anything is nasty

xata's but with a triple dipping dot that has its own archon shard buff, corrosive buff and roar on the same frame

[cursive peak]

I love the people who do the, "there's nothing challenging in this game, we need moar challenge!"

Okay, level cap with no mods. There you go

[eternal prism]

someone already did it

[cursive peak]

I know, but that's probably the most challenging thing that can be done, and very few have done it

[near vortex]

well
Octavia can do it I think so long as you can fix energy

[cursive peak]

Yeah, scaling frames have an easier time of it

[quiet laurel]

when people say this they mean intentional hard content with exclusive rewards so you actually have a reason of doing the content

why tf would I do lvl caps with no mods, it doesnt get me anything

[near vortex]

Scales with level and inbuilt survival

[cursive peak]

Bragging rights? That's all anyone used to get for doing insanely difficult things in games, like level 1 full clears, speedruns, etc

[near vortex]

I should pick up Octavia Prime

[near vortex]

My level 1 full clear on Gragas is INSANE!!!!

He's not great in Jungle but no mana issues is so handy

[dusk kite]

Who got frigid blast pls dm me if need it bad

[tepid scaffold]

Sary sobek is amazing

It's only beaten by cyte sobek as far as sobek frames at lvl cap

All frames can do lvl cap

Some are better than others

Some are far better then others

And some should be avoided at lvl cap unless you are a masochist

[opal leaf]

Hahahaha

I love that conclusion

[sly island]

Guys is there any shad I should use more on uriel?

[opal leaf]

Huh? Wdym

[tepid scaffold]

Parkour speed

[sly island]

Archons shads

[fierce lark]

you need a good base for your shads

[opal leaf]

Ahhhhhh

[sly island]

I have already got a good Base

[fierce lark]

You’re too innocent for that joke

anyway, I run 1 equilibrium violet, 1 cast speed yellow and 3 duration reds

[eternal prism]

5 parkour for all frames🐟

[eternal prism]

Duration give more damage

Why?Ult stays on the ground longer

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[gleaming oasis]

I currently have a standard influence build on my coda hirudo. should anything be modified? the prog is magnetic if that matters.

unless the element should be pure elec

[abstract axle]

I'd probably do pure electric, but magnetic should be good. You might explicitly want a non maxed progenitor bonus then

[versed harbor]

nah progenitor bonus acts as base dmg so itll scale the electric mod higher anyway

its rly rare that low progenitor is good rly

[eternal prism]

Secret magnet mod

[gleaming oasis]

so pure elec then?

with pure eelc this is what I would be rocking

[primal bane]

I was thinking of building gyre, the build I’m watching for her uses roar but wouldn’t volts ability with shock trooper be a better helminth for her?

[versed harbor]

shock trooper wouldnt work for her abilities while roar does, thats all rly

roar also triple dips statuses like electric

[eternal prism]

Depends what u want

[sly island]

Roar boost any dmg

[versed harbor]

ye

[primal bane]

Ahh I see

[eternal prism]

Pillage rather easiest way

[sly island]

Is just really depends on the frame

[eternal prism]

She has a bad augment for the platform

If you still want a platform, then the answer was given above

Shock trooper roar nourish and etc

[gleaming oasis]

How would you build cyte-09? and how would I modify some kuve weapons for him since I have been informed that weapons like the zarr and brama are best when paired with him.

[eternal prism]

Like saryn

[eternal prism]

Also like saryn but with a note on main status

[opal leaf]

Hi

[eternal prism]

Cyte also have broken formula

[gleaming oasis]

so what would be the mandatory mods and arcanes?

[eternal prism]

It depends on what you need
This is platform

Can also play through 4th skill

[gleaming oasis]

platform is what generic? 4th skill based?

[eternal prism]

A skill that allows you to select ammo

It like toxic lash saryn

[junior girder]

hi, i got a nami solo riven, wich stats i need to search?

[eternal prism]

But with any status

[junior girder]

i wanna sell it for goods pls

[gleaming oasis]

this is where I'm starting from. simple mods that everyone can use

[eternal prism]

Range attack speed elecricity

[quiet laurel]

and made bad decisions on 50% of the mods equipped

[junior girder]

thanks u ❤️

[eternal prism]

For grol -slash

[quiet laurel]

rifle amp is useless and cyte doesnt want range

[junior girder]

i see

[eternal prism]

For not grol something else

[junior girder]

sure, i wanna sell it for goods pls

[gleaming oasis]

and this is why its called a starting point

[eternal prism]

Secret sniper build

[junior girder]

nami solo work with melee influ?

[eternal prism]

Yes

[gleaming oasis]

never let the techrot know your next move

[eternal prism]

Only with it

[quiet laurel]

its best with melee influence like 90% of melees

[junior girder]

so, i need electr, range and as

[eternal prism]

Nami solo have more then 30m aoe

[quiet laurel]

yes

[eternal prism]

Best melee influence

[quiet laurel]

and 100% follow through

[eternal prism]

And it

Bo melee influence

🥺

[junior girder]

23 rolls and i get 250 cc and range

[quiet laurel]

oh you are rolling a riven for it

[junior girder]

yes , i wanna get good pls for it

[quiet laurel]

yes, AS, R, Elec is part of the god roll

[junior girder]

-slash?

[eternal prism]

And - slash

[quiet laurel]

but you really really want -slash

[junior girder]

sure

[quiet laurel]

like nami solo is such a pain to roll cause the negative matters too

[eternal prism]

This roll cost more then 10k plat

[quiet laurel]

but thats why we gamble

[eternal prism]

Depends tier stats

[junior girder]

oh

180 cc
100 electr
82 sc

[quiet laurel]

CD is also fine in the positive stats

[eternal prism]

Only range elec and as for nami

[junior girder]

okey okey

[eternal prism]

Only such rolls are worth it

[quiet laurel]

CD too

[eternal prism]

Not really necessary. It's easier to put two mods.

U cant get a lot range and attack speed

[junior girder]

i got 140k of kuva

i see people going lvl cap in kuva

[eternal prism]

It is more valued here because of the large synergy

[junior girder]

like, interruption? with boosters

[eternal prism]

For kuva u want go only arbitration

[quiet laurel]

you want kuva?

yeah arbis is da way

I cant spend my kuva faster than I gain it

[eternal prism]

U can farm here millions of kuva

[junior girder]

i usually got kuva with the weekly kuva , and steel esence

[junior girder]

with vitus esence?

[eternal prism]

Week kuva 280k where you don't need to farm a lot

Arbitration just millions for a couple of missions

[quiet laurel]

200k to 400k kuva an hour depending on the map

[junior girder]

yes, going omnia sup its so boring and take to much time

[junior girder]

i didnt know that

[eternal prism]

Provided that they can be farmed every hour...

[junior girder]

thanks u so much ❤️

[quiet laurel]

they cant, but you can stay in interceptions for a long time

[eternal prism]

But you can often get banned for arbitration. The main thing is not to try too hard...

[junior girder]

85 as, 135 electr

now i need put range or the -slash

[quiet laurel]

havent seen anyone get banned for arbis before

[junior girder]

xD, Just 44 rolls

[eternal prism]

Both

[eternal prism]

I heard a couple of people were banned
Just because they farmed too much

[quiet laurel]

thats just the auto ban from the bot cause of suspicious resource amounts in a singular mission

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/winkythedwarfcat-winky-cat-sad-tired-gif-6471914036130722371

[quiet laurel]

and that only happens if you stay for like 10 hours or smth

[eternal prism]

If only everything were so rosy...

[junior girder]

i got like 20 rolls of racist nami solo

[keen flax]

Can this Tenet Livia possibly get any better? I really love the thing but it feels like it's slowing down in deep steel path lately

[eternal prism]

Livia Is that the thing with the shield?

[keen flax]

Nah the big two hander

This guy here

[eternal prism]

I see you've gone overboard with the statuses and hybrid
Melee weapons usually have 2 paths now

Influence and heavy bonk

Of course, I could be wrong about this particular weapon...

Is that 2hand nikana stance?

[keen flax]

Yea exactly. Honestly it's my favorite stance in the game these days

[eternal prism]

Then u should use only heavy build

No other

[quiet laurel]

I've rolled it quite a bit now but this is like the best I've gotten

nami solo rivens truly are depressing

[eternal prism]

I have almost grol

In - damage grineer

😭

[quiet laurel]

dtg kills every riven

[junior girder]

the same

xD

[quiet laurel]

I just do all the meta farms for all the resources

so I have more than the average I'd say

[eternal prism]

Then give me plat

[quiet laurel]

but still thats not nearly as much as some people

[junior girder]

i only know the 1999 credit farm with chroma, and nothing more

[quiet laurel]

for credits secura lecta credit farming is the way to go

[primal bane]

Anyone have a grimoire build I can use with Gyre Prime

[junior girder]

mmm i pretty sure i know what you mean, the chroma with lecta, the khorra helmit?

[quiet laurel]

yes

[primal bane]

This is what I have rn without putting anything into it

[junior girder]

that one with the specific spot in the box i think in saturn or something like that xD, i need farm khorra, but is soooooo boring, also the lato vandal and that stuff, i more interested learn how get so much endo, for sell prime mods

mi first goal when i start playing was "i need hit damage cap" i got it, now i just wanna got millions of everthing xD

[quiet laurel]

arena on sedna
also specific setup with a pre made squad

2x nekros, khora, nidus

[junior girder]

i am pretty sure they nerf that

[eternal prism]

I never understood the meaning of the grimoire.
I know it good only for abuse aegis...

[quiet laurel]

people are getting like 5k endo a minute

[junior girder]

dayum

[eternal prism]

Nah

[junior girder]

LAST ROLL, HERE WE HO

nah

cc, slash, x infest -cd xDD, the worst

[eternal prism]

Infest killer

[shell tundra]

Is it adequate boredom hours activity to make builds for frames I’m only gonna use for like a day and then completely forget they exist for like a couple of months, pick them up for the heck of it, and casually get decent damage and decent kills?

[junior girder]

how much can i ask? i dont have plat, i wanna farm , so i need the booster, 85 as, 135 electr

[quiet laurel]

ask about what

[junior girder]

i wanna sell the riven with this stats, the nami solo

[lavish orbit]

Yes

[eternal prism]

U mean gun builds? Yes

Frame also yes

[lavish orbit]

that's a trash riven for a good weapon

maybe 50

[shell tundra]

Nah m8 I’m so cooked that I’m lowk considering making a Garuda build (I don’t even like her all that much ;~;)

[junior girder]

the base pl of nami solo rivens its like 80

[eternal prism]

Garuda not need a lot invest in build

[lavish orbit]

Then 80

[eternal prism]

Almost free

[lavish orbit]

Depends what you want to do as a Garuda build, caster, melee, etc..

[eternal prism]

Caster and melee same builds btw

[shell tundra]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,, I think I would want to ability spam? Idk I’m not too hot on weapon platforms bc my gun builds are straight buns and I don’t have the patience to do a top down redux of all the dakkas I use

[lavish orbit]

not really but I think that's a gameplay matter

[eternal prism]

Garuda anyway need only 1 str mod

[lavish orbit]

Yes sure, strength and range, that's what you need

[eternal prism]

Equilibrium 1 mod str
2 range
rest is survival

[gleaming oasis]

so what can be added?

[lavish orbit]

What's the point of Equilibrium ? You already heal and convert with 2nd and 3rd

[eternal prism]

Or 3 range but then another abilitys be some worse

[eternal prism]

Sustain hp and energy
So as not to take up the arcana slot

2nd useless

It for subsume

[lavish orbit]

Not really but again maybe it's a matter of gameplay

[shell tundra]

Do I strictly need to do this Garuda build right this second? Choepessa IV is calling for Democracy of the managed variety

[lavish orbit]

Save earth

[eternal prism]

You never want to be afk near your 2nd skill on garuda in any build.
This is all because of her not-so-great survival stability.
You need to constantly press skill 4

And running fast also means not taking damage

[shell tundra]

Before I go, does Garuda want Brief Respite?

[eternal prism]

No

U can put catal shields

And 100% put augur range

Or an augur mod for secondary weapons

Or 2 cd shields mod

(if vazarin aegis also good)

[lavish orbit]

let's agree to disagree, if you have range, you have a large zone

[eternal prism]

There are more useful skills, but you still have nothing to use from the mods in garuda. It's smarter to just put a more useful skill.

I only have 3 stat mods. The rest are convenience and survivability

I can just run and spam 2 skills

I don't understand why I should stick to the 2nd skill when there are more convenient sustains

In any case, there is still an arcana for hp regen

[junior girder]

in wich map of Arbitration you recomend farm endo or kuva?

[quiet laurel]

all defense and interception missions basically

defense missions give you good endo

while interceptions have a higher VE ceiling

[junior girder]

VE?

[quiet laurel]

vitus essence

[eternal prism]

Mirage essence

Ogris mirage

[junior girder]

i see, so defense= endo
interception= ve

[quiet laurel]

yeah

defense usually get you 450 to 550 VE per 102 waves while interceptions can go as high as 1000 VE in 10 rounds

assuming the meta of course

doing public or solo will reduce that amount quite a lot

[eternal prism]

102 waves💀

[quiet laurel]

thats the normal amount for defenses in meta arbi

thats done in like 48 minutes if the DPS are good

[eternal prism]

I don't understand how they can't be lazy

[quiet laurel]

arbi is quite sweaty as cyte dps

while supports usually chill

except volt on defense sometimes

cause depending on dps skill volt might need to perma vaz the operative at 80+ waves

[eternal prism]

Looks like circuit x operator but it arbi x cyteobek

This is terribly boring...

😭

But this needs to be done many times more often than duviri...

[quiet laurel]

I mean supports can be boring yeah

but cyte is def not boring

if you want a challenge you solo dps as cyte

[eternal prism]

If i can stay afk it fun
I can look youtube

🐟

[quiet laurel]

wisp is pretty much afk

[eternal prism]

Ehhh secret wisp platform

[quiet laurel]

but the most demanding role cause some hosts cry about sub 400 motes

[eternal prism]

Time sleep 6 am...

[quiet laurel]

but once you have motes placed well you are chillin

[craggy niche]

eda and eta done for the week

got 4 shards and a melee arcane adapter from my one netracell

[north wedge]

I DONT EVEN UNDERSTAND HALF OF MODDING LIKE HOW (i weny from 1,500 dmg on the Nagantaka Prime to 3,000 or so and I downed the Hystrix Prime by 100 dmg but that was after using a Forma on it)

im about to go test things on Steel Path even though im still kinda new to it

[lean tendon]

Viral status effect

[cold burrow]

Guys I need a spicy atlas build and a 20sec on how to play it.

[north wedge]

Yeah i also learned how Dagath works during that mission lol. Just finished

[pulsar linden]

Viral smiral, Corrosive is the real king. /s.

[tardy lily]

Another day, another meditation on why Magnetized Discharge and Fracturing Crush should be innate to their abilities and not augments...

Honestly I think Mag could do with a touch-up. She doesn't need anything near a rework but there's a few things I could point to. The hold-cast of her Magnetize needs a stronger damage multiplier and to allow parkour for one, and Polarize and Crush need stronger separate identities rather than "the one that gives back shields", for another.

[gleaming oasis]

which aura mod is best for cyte?

[wise kettle]

Worthy comraderie

[hidden olive]

I like using Dead Eye with him or Growing Power

[warm obsidian]

Cunning Drift or Augment?

[gleaming oasis]

what arcanes should I use for cyte?

[warm obsidian]

Might replace Blind Rage because I just don't like negative efficiency, also to remove Equilibrium

[lean tendon]

Cunning Drift in your Exilus slot

also why remove Equilibrium when it is what synergizes well with your Dispensary

or at the very least you want arcane energize if you're planning to not use Equilibrium

[warm obsidian]

Fair enough

Can't even spawn one at start because of Blind Rage

[lean tendon]

just kill some mobs

[tough idol]

is this worth replace scorch ?
or is it worth using and which mod for replace ?

[low flax]

is a riven for smth with 1 riven dispo ever rly worth it

[vagrant whale]

Valkyr talon build: arcane fury or arcane avenger?

[summer moon]

Don't take vigor

[low flax]

I took shred cuz if you want attack speed berserker fury is just there
and shred is useful and a ton of guns

vigor is just bad dont take it

[lean tendon]

Primed Shred

[low flax]

I'd use fury just because its more consistent that avenger and you can just swap out pressure point for a crit chance mod

[vagrant whale]

Ty

[golden plover]

Should i feed this gun a potato

[novel bear]

Avenger is plenty consistent on valkyr
And she really doesn’t need more melee damage with her passive

[low flax]

Gonna be honest I forgot she has that yeah lmao

[velvet pulsar]

She is also a good user of archon intensify if she doesn't use umbrals?

[nocturne thicket]

Dos archon continuity proc with Grendel 4th skill?? And on top of that does it still work with the augment

[warm obsidian]

Do I go for Shot next?

[lean tendon]

whichever weapon type you're gonna use the most

you'll eventually buy all of them anyways

[craggy niche]

IS THIS riven worth a damn?

supras not really a "crit" gun

[sour gyro]

I'm lwk stuck on how to build Ash Prime

[rough gull]

well im from the maiming strike era and that was probably my most used weapon. im just wondering why i drop so little cred

and i had the impression i was dropping more with a viral electric build, but it might be just my impression

[lean tendon]

you want Gas not Viral

https://wfpedia.com/posts/credits/secura-lecta/introduction/mechanics

[vagrant whale]

What should i realistically look for in verglas riven?

[lean tendon]

CC and MS

[fierce lark]

crit chance, crit damage, multishot, damage, fire rate

[lean tendon]

CC for tenacious bond MS for DPS/priming

[craggy niche]

Anyone feel like enervate is a little.. too strong with the bug?

[lean tendon]

everyone is complaining about it for a long time

[normal folio]

If I bought this, would I be able to unlock it with all my frames? Or just this specific frame

[lean tendon]

1 adapter per item

[timid urchin]

anyone got a super dmg build for sevagoth prime?

[chrome badge]

#1429852785251455016 message

who better to ask than Sevagoth himself?

[timid urchin]

lol

ty

[acoustic bluff]

No it’s not too strong the game is just too easy

:clueless:

[brazen oasis]

this is soma prime with incarnon adapter. how can I make this stronger?

[abstract axle]

for starters, you can't proc your arcane

also, i'd highly reccomend losing heat and sticking with viral slash

swap the arcane for crux, probably

also, don't use incarnon mode on the incarnon, because DE decided for some reason that it should be the only incarnon to LOSE crit chance when it transforms

[green gyro]

you want heat

wildfire also gives you +cc effectively

[pallid quiver]

which arcanes for primaries are actually good?

[night laurel]

deadhead and merciless is a namestay

like they're the "dont know what else to put" in slot

[pallid quiver]

ah cool

deadhead is base damage on kill right

[night laurel]

yup\

[pallid quiver]

merciless does what?

[normal folio]

Good Idea?

[pallid quiver]

on what

[fierce lark]

meh

not big on investing in non-prime frames unless they're new-ish

[normal folio]

Volt

[pallid quiver]

i wouldnt if its non prime

cuz ur just gonna eat it anyways

[olive harness]

Hello guys, my build sucks so, can I get help regarding what weapon to use etc? have this atm

[pallid quiver]

unless the prime wont come out for another few years

[pallid quiver]

what mr are u?

[olive harness]

I tried to do the disruption quest but I couldn't do anything to the exploding things or whatever

[fierce lark]

rank up the mods you have rather than adding a bunch which don't do anything

[olive harness]

3

[pallid quiver]

yea i'd take out the banes and ammo drum

they dont do much

[olive harness]

I see... but then how can I increase the capacity?

[olive harness]

oki lemme check

[fierce lark]

catalyst, forma (things you probably shouldn't do with a base braton)

[pallid quiver]

not worth at low mr, just ranking up some mods will help u much more

imo base damage (serration) rn will give u the biggest bump in dps

[olive harness]

I can get it to 4 so imma do that

I do need endo though so I'll just go do a few easy rounds to get them, I just came back to the game after a long time so I forgot everything 😭

[pallid quiver]

er i think at mr3 u get access to the furis?

its pretty decent even at low mr and mid investment

but honestly for low mrs the melee is gonna carry u through stuff

until u have enough resources to properly invest in builds for guns

[olive harness]

I see, I have skana so I can upgrade it I suppose

[pallid quiver]

i mean as long as u dont put in potatoes or forma into weapons u know ur not keeping in the long run its fine

[olive harness]

though when I used it in the mission it didn't let me do the combo, I had to click once and once for some reason, I'll check that too

thank you!

[fierce lark]

idk how willing you are to do this, but the best thing you can do for yourself would be to buy endo and mods from warframe.market

you have no mods, no endo to upgrade mods, and you have a bunch of plat

[olive harness]

Calling me broke in everything LOL

[fierce lark]

you're broke in endo and you're broken in the things that make weapons kill things

[pallid quiver]

yea but theyre low mr so is it really that worth? especially with lack of mod cap and usable weapons that have longevity

[fierce lark]

buy important mods like critical delay/vital sense, buy some ayatan statues and melt them at varzia (if you've done that quest yet), get a few thousand endo

maybe throw a catalyst on one shitty gun just to max rank it and have space for some rank 5/6 mods to have it blast the entire early game

[pallid quiver]

which guns are even good at low mr?

[olive harness]

I'm taking notes hold on

[pallid quiver]

i cant remember

then again id rather just take broken war and invest into that

cuz its free potato anyways and u get it quite early on

[spiral chasm]

Xoris is free

[pallid quiver]

needs potato and its stance is horrendous to get

[fierce lark]

hek, every kitgun, every quest weapon, boltor

[pallid quiver]

speaking of kitguns

what configs are good?

[fierce lark]

x haymaker/tremor splat

[pallid quiver]

thornbak

[pallid quiver]

x is any?

[fierce lark]

idk apparently thornbak is good for being the first quest weapon in the game

[fierce lark]

yeah, every kitgun just runs haymaker splat or tremor splat

turns out big dmg + crit = good

[pallid quiver]

thats unexpected

i thought neg crit would be insane

what about the first slot one for kitguns tho?

[olive harness]

what are the best weapon and armor in the game atm?

maybe I can try working towards them

[pallid quiver]

armor?

[olive harness]

warframe

[pallid quiver]

weapon-wise, some early game weapons get used a lot late game

like furis and xoris

but those need incarnons

which u get from completing duviri quest and reaching SP

which will be a while

[fierce lark]

frames are all preference, they all do different things, behave differently, some fill certain roles better than others but literally all of them are personalized and you're gonna have to find the ones you like, but you should craft and level everything anyways for mastery

[olive harness]

ohh I see

[fierce lark]

for the early game you should stick to the weapons you get from quests that come with 60 capacity for free

thornbak, xoris, nataruk eventually

[pallid quiver]

imo easy to get frames that will do pretty decently are like volt and zephyr for early game content

[pallid quiver]

i dont think my xoris has 60 cap

ruh roh

[fierce lark]

yeah cause you sold it and had to buy it back from simaris

dum

[green gyro]

I don't understand why ppl think this is better than selling prime junk and buying slots

[fierce lark]

when we're young we overvalue plat

[nocturne thicket]

What’s the best subsume skill for gastro build

[pallid quiver]

eh i did?

i cant remember lol

[fierce lark]

probably, pretty sure xoris comes with a potato installed

[pallid quiver]

the only stuff i remember buying from simaris is the scanner upgrades so i could scan kavats better

[fierce lark]

actually im the dum

you don't get xoris from the quest, you get parts and have to build it

[mighty flare]

roar, breach surge, or grouping like larva

[pallid quiver]

yeah

thats why im in mod cap poverty for it

[wide verge]

shall I add 3 crimson damage shards to my seva?

[olive harness]

nvm I forgot I had dex nikana 30 lmao

I deal 4k damage now

[velvet pulsar]

If anyone asks for DEx Sybaris comparison with Prime for incarnon, send this link:

#1426948337877127389 message

[scarlet forum]

Depends

[eternal prism]

You don't have a choice anyway. You can also add parkour

[scarlet forum]

You only need 255 ability strength

[eternal prism]

Cuz roar always want str

[scarlet forum]

You only need 255 plus roar and you can one shot anything in the game

What I learned

I'm running 3 ability strength plus a duration

[eternal prism]

This is for those who can't be one-shot by sevagoth

Roar still want str

It also helps to distribute the stats a little

[scarlet forum]

Then how much would you recommend

🥀

[eternal prism]

Depends on preferences

[pallid quiver]

5 red str shards

[eternal prism]

For rore, the bigger the better.

[scarlet forum]

Nu uh

[pallid quiver]

5 effeciency shards

[eternal prism]

5 parkour for all🐟

[pallid quiver]

parkour affects the shadows

trust new tech

clears the room faster cuz the shadows move faster

[wide verge]

I got molt augmented

[scarlet forum]

That should be fine

[wide verge]

alr but I still should add red shards or nah?

[eternal prism]

If u want so why not

[wide verge]

k

[slim flame]

what's the best melee rn for SP?

[eternal prism]

Any with build

[latent latch]

What is a good excalibur umbra build for steel path?

[slim flame]

i got the melee influence arcane already so trying to find a good weapon for it

[umbral knoll]

does point blank matter in Phantasma Prime?

[velvet pulsar]

Not much if you have Galvanized status chance mod.

[nocturne thicket]

Thoughts on triple umbral?
Only get 650 ish energy w only relying on “stomach armor” so in theory triple umbral will make that more consistent

[umbral knoll]

yeah, I do!

If you mean Savvy and Hell

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah galv savvy

[umbral knoll]

pls rate my build for Phantasma! also, what to put on first slot?

[eternal prism]

In heat phantsma u not need prime electricity

[umbral knoll]

I don't have shell shock and I don't like faction mods...

[eternal prism]

U can seap faction mod

Swap*

No one forces you to use it, but for an arcana that uses phantasma, you need such a source

Atleast roar

[umbral knoll]

I have roar subsumed, so it's not a problem.. Just switch mods when I'm going against other faction?

[eternal prism]

U can even not switch

You'll probably get enough damage for any faction even like that

[umbral knoll]

then why faction mod? Is grineer especially weaker?

[eternal prism]

Because grineers are generally fat with armor and for tripple dip arcana

When I say fat I mean lvlcap

[umbral knoll]

ohh, ok.. So just grineer?

[eternal prism]

Yes
The other factions are much weaker

[umbral knoll]

and also, Viral Elec vs Magnetic + Corrosive?

[eternal prism]

Elec better if only full armor strip enemy

With armor heat better

[umbral knoll]

ohh, ok, so I do need external strip armor with using elec? And heat not needed?

[eternal prism]

Yes

[umbral knoll]

Good, then using Roar Dagath and Phantasma will not be a problem since Heat is on?

[eternal prism]

Yes it fine

With roar u also can swap faction

Cuz it additive with roar

[umbral knoll]

ohh, ok.. Are missions with multiple faction that frequent?

[eternal prism]

Nope
Only in relics

[umbral knoll]

is it better than sticking to grineer?

[eternal prism]

If your roar more then 50% then yes

Usually any other mod will give more. But if you are too lazy to change it, you can leave it as is

[umbral knoll]

so just keep roar active, right? My build now:

[eternal prism]

Yes(for corr build u not need prime elec it some broken heat status chance)
And u need debilitate

[umbral knoll]

but i dont have shell shock.. And also it makes gas dmg instead

[eternal prism]

You'll have to find it✅
Otherwise, the weapon will probably be a bit weaker than it could be

[umbral knoll]

I'm afraid that ammo also will be a problem..

[eternal prism]

Phantasma looks very much like a solo target weapon

It's difficult to clear rooms

[umbral knoll]

is Xoris good for multi-target instead?

[eternal prism]

Therefore, problems rarely arise with this

[eternal prism]

Yes good

[umbral knoll]

so stuff like bosses, and some acolytes and things like that?

[eternal prism]

I'm not sure it kill the acolytes. It doesn't have that high base status damage

Myabe bosses demolishers and etc

Thraxes

Now there are akarius for killing everything, for example
Also acolytes
But without a strong platform, they struggle against bosses

So you can kill in general acolytes by xoris

Or sec

[umbral knoll]

akarius is a secondary?

[eternal prism]

Yes

[umbral knoll]

incarnon?

[eternal prism]

nope

just prime

[umbral knoll]

so when to actually use Phantasma?

Arbitration drones?

[eternal prism]

fat enemies
Now primary are more utility and for solo targets

I can't remember the last time I used primary for something else

maybe boar or torid for clear

boar should be good against solo targets exsept demolishers

[latent latch]

Should I use both sacrificial mods on exalted umbra blade for damage or galvanized steel with pressure point?

[green gyro]

no

[green gyro]

galv

[wide verge]

Laetum build?

[latent latch]

Okay so what mods should I use?

[wide verge]

ty

[eternal prism]

2133

[eternal prism]

if u not use uskos swap elemntalist

[green gyro]

what is this bruh

[eternal prism]

crit laetum better then non crit

[green gyro]

status laetum with elementalist and no DOT element

[eternal prism]

.

[green gyro]

yes I know, that build is still not good

[eternal prism]

i use uskos

[green gyro]

take off half the mods bro

[green gyro]

useless and takes ages

[eternal prism]

250% heat status useless yes

[green gyro]

yes because laetum kills everything without you needing to spend 5 mins killing shit as operator every mission

[eternal prism]

im not spend 5 min for that

[green gyro]

if you spend any time at all it's a waste

[eternal prism]

You can just do this between rotations and not lose anything

still the same timers

[green gyro]

you can do whatever you want but that's not a build that should be recommended

and the sc is still ass

[eternal prism]

If you don't want to, it doesn't mean I can't do it and not get a big benefit

[green gyro]

it's not a big benefit but whatever

[eternal prism]

and laetum have 42% base status chance

[opal leaf]

What is happening here?

[green gyro]

bro

you can get identical ttk without needing to stack some bs operator arcane

therefore the other build is just better

[eternal prism]

I can't because it will give more anyway

If you don't like using uskos, it doesn't mean that builds based on it are bad

[opal leaf]

Damn

[eternal prism]

when literally with one tauron or just playing on cascade you completely stack it without any problem

[versed harbor]

warframe

[green gyro]

I calced it

raw dmg is 2x dps almost

with uskos you get like less than 10% more dmg

[opal leaf]

What is Uskos even?

[green gyro]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Zid-An_Uskos

[opal leaf]

Oh an arcane

[green gyro]

you need 100 operator kills per mission

[opal leaf]

Damn

With my current sirocco action

I'm ass on it hahaha

[eternal prism]

This simply can't be because I've already tested both options and even after your words, uskos still won in dps
by about 0.2 seconds on average

[green gyro]

no I said that uskos is slightly more

after fully stacking

[eternal prism]

then i translate wrong

[green gyro]

ye

[eternal prism]

in any case, whether you like it or not, you can choose not to use it. Uskos almost always gives more damage when the conditions are right for it

and I always like to use them

[surreal gust]

Is this decent for someone without steel path access who still hasn't done new war

??

[drowsy herald]

Yea that's good

[eternal prism]

well if u newbie looks not bad
but with blind range u not want reset efficiency
if u not have energy sustain i recomend drop this mod

[green gyro]

you need energy sustain

[drowsy herald]

For energy sustain they can just get rage/hunter adrenaline mod

[green gyro]

rage/hunter adrenaline

[eternal prism]

and just put equilibrium(which should always be present on warframes with channeling abilities)

[eternal prism]

it only for hp tank

[drowsy herald]

Valkyr is a hp tank

[green gyro]

✅

[drowsy herald]

You use her 4th to recover health and you get energy from health damage

And her 4th is her main dps

[eternal prism]

only with arcana

[drowsy herald]

So it's a self sustain loop

[green gyro]

no???

[eternal prism]

never hp tank on her

just kill all

[surreal gust]

No she got life steal on her talons by default

[drowsy herald]

Are you trolling?

[green gyro]

he's always like this

[eternal prism]

I'm completely serious. She survives without it

it's just a lazier way

[green gyro]

yeah definitely

[surreal gust]

I personally never get any problems with it. I was just curious if it's decent

[green gyro]

it's decent, can be improved

[drowsy herald]

She can survive with her passive yes but health tanking is a good loop for infinite energy on her

[green gyro]

just ignore the step by step dude

[surreal gust]

What mods should I even farm for?

[drowsy herald]

Just get rage or hunter adrenaline

And replace streamline with them

[eternal prism]

Equilibrium was always enough for me, even without an hp tank build

and I play without energy sustain sources.

so hp tank just a lazier way

[drowsy herald]

Mind sharing your build you are so confident about?

[eternal prism]

I used this one for lvl cap and subsume 1 skill

[green gyro]

equilibrium requires constant kills while rage just requires you to exist

steel charge

[eternal prism]

why i cant kill enemiys

[surreal gust]

Hunter adrenaline sounds way better then rage

[drowsy herald]

Both do the same thing, hunter adrenaline is just better

[surreal gust]

Or just get arcane battery for inf energy

[green gyro]

sometimes you have to move rooms and don't kill for a bit

battery+hunter adrenaline

[drowsy herald]

That is also way too expensive for someone in starchart

[surreal gust]

It's just personal preference

[eternal prism]

I know, but it didn't stop me from maintaining my energy even when I was playing at speed.

[surreal gust]

That looks like a warcry hysteria build to me that's made to have high kill count and never die

[eternal prism]

i know
That's why I only recommended equilibrium, and not anything else for sustain

[drowsy herald]

Rage/ha > equilibrium

[eternal prism]

Your options are also good, but they are more suitable for a hp tank

[surreal gust]

That's my playstyle

Charge into enemies kill everyone and search for more enemies

[drowsy herald]

Valkyr is a health tank smh

[eternal prism]

At level cap, without the tank hp arcana, these will just be oneshots all hp and kill passive
That's why I don't use it in this build

[drowsy herald]

Just get a HA/rage mod and you'll be good

[drowsy herald]

We are talking about starchart here bro

[drowsy herald]

And when you get to steelpath get acrane persistence and that's all you'll need

And molt augmented will be a bonus, or any other arcane

[surreal gust]

How about we don't argue cause everyone is being helpful and trying their best to help

[surreal gust]

I'll most likely run Molt and battery

[eternal prism]

I already said, his build is quite normal.

but we were talking about my build, weren't we?

[surreal gust]

You were very helpful thanks a ton

[drowsy herald]

Man i ain't gonna bother

[surreal gust]

My talons do red crits on heavy attacks

I hyper optimised a lot

[eternal prism]

It's normal. They have a high base cc

u can see even !!!

[surreal gust]

Should I show the build? Cause I'm missing a few primed mods

[quiet laurel]

you dont even mod any survivability on her

[eternal prism]

u can use some simillar and swap faction if u not need it

heavy hit here one shot any mob any lvl

[charred gale]

If they dont ur doing something wrong, its base 50% crit chance

[terse lichen]

W or L koumei build and how can I improve it?

[charred gale]

I alr see primed vigor💔

[eternal prism]

u want koumei like platform or caster

[terse lichen]

I use her as mainly just doing long based survival missions solo like omnia fissures

[surreal gust]

this is what ive been using

[eternal prism]

talon have low status chance

u not want debufs statuses here

except corr

[charred gale]

Use bloodrush😭

[eternal prism]

he newbie

[surreal gust]

I don't need even more life steel

[eternal prism]

bloodrush give u cc

[charred gale]

That gives crit chance for every stack of combo

[eternal prism]

per combo

[terse lichen]

should I not use vigor? I needed it because I was farming index for a bit before I started editing the build

[charred gale]

Icic

[charred gale]

U typically want to invest fully into either shield or health that splits it into both

[surreal gust]

Does it stack with everything else I use?

[eternal prism]

If my memory serves me correctly, she only needs 2 shield cooldown mods for survivability and thats all

[charred gale]

Wdym

[surreal gust]

Like with the rest of the mods?

[charred gale]

Catalyzing shields for more survivability if u care

[terse lichen]

ah I see I just need sheild recharge

[eternal prism]

ah and it forgot about it

[charred gale]

Yeah it adds more crit chance if thats what ur asking

[terse lichen]

would fast deflection work

[charred gale]

Fast deflection and vigilante vigor

And catalyzing shields

[eternal prism]

it stack with your 3nd ability very well

[surreal gust]

I mostly don't get any issues and I don't really have access to most popular mods

[eternal prism]

but for caster u subsume 3nd ability anyway

[charred gale]

Up to u if u dont wanna change it

[green gyro]

blood rush is so cheap dude

[surreal gust]

It's just for now. It's most likely gonna change a few times

[terse lichen]

I dont got catalyzing shields but something like this?

[green gyro]

and easy to get

[charred gale]

Should work fine, change arcane blessing tho

[eternal prism]

I'm not talking about the difficulty of obtaining

[terse lichen]

I already have a archon shard for some str so its fine taking intensify off is ok

[green gyro]

she doesn't need str

[surreal gust]

What mission to grind

[green gyro]

spy

[eternal prism]

(for caster build need for base electicity damage)

[terse lichen]

I mean I am kinda arcane poor so dont got anything that helps with sp omnia fissures besides that

[surreal gust]

Like the name

[green gyro]

wiki

[eternal prism]

some but need

[green gyro]

wtf are you even talking about 😭

[eternal prism]

4nd skill can kill level cap

[terse lichen]

I disolved most my arcanes for melee influence Y^Y

[eternal prism]

with pulse

[charred gale]

Id recommend getting an r1 arcane aegis shouldnt be too expensive

[terse lichen]

let me check

[charred gale]

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[eternal prism]

I used and tested this one without a decree.

except that I swapped Molt for parkour

[terse lichen]

I am sorry my hate incarnon needed that boost Y^Y

[terse lichen]

like this?

[surreal gust]

How much crit chance does Valkyr talons even Need tho?

[charred gale]

Theres just so many other ways of getting influence, i dont think u needed to sell everything for vosfor😭

[charred gale]

Yea that looks ok, i would put on corrosive projection over growing power tho

[eternal prism]

form galv steel and bloodrush enough

[charred gale]

I dont think she does anything with strength

[terse lichen]

man my luck sucks balls, after 600 hours of gameplay I still aint got the basic nidus nouroptics for my helminth

[surreal gust]

What do I replace for blood rush cause I can get it

[charred gale]

If ur not going for nidus theres no reason u would have him randomly

[terse lichen]

its because I want him for mr fodder

I already got nidus prime

[surreal gust]

Thx but why not sacrificial steel?

[eternal prism]

crit damage

[terse lichen]

ty guys btw imma try out the koumei build soon

[eternal prism]

u already have a lot cc

[surreal gust]

Oh ok

[eternal prism]

even not stack combo/arcana

[surreal gust]

Does galvanised steel stack with sac steel?

[eternal prism]

no

only 1

[surreal gust]

Ok

[cold burrow]

I build for his 4th, savage silence with the augment aswell to boost finishers witch is all the 4th does anyway

[surreal gust]

Isn't that steel path?

[eternal prism]

steel path

[violet silo]

well, you physically can't run both, they're variants of the same mod

[violet silo]

damn, double ! reds? how'd u hit that?

[eternal prism]

i can get even !!!

it just without combo

[violet silo]

how do you do that without combo

blood rush gets mine to single reds

[eternal prism]

secret

with my build u can hit only !! crits. but more can be obtained in other ways

anyway with full buffs u can get similar numbers

In theory, can increase it by another 1.5 times with a slam mod

[warm obsidian]

This even good :v

[eternal prism]

bad -

but miter yes good

[warm obsidian]

Dissolve it is

[granite ginkgo]

reroll la, ur stat status duration is worst kind to use

[warm obsidian]

Too much effort wasted on unveiling it

[granite ginkgo]

basically u proc toxic only for 1 second

[surreal gust]

How op is toxic?

[eternal prism]

nope
miter good gun

[eternal prism]

it used with arcana and aginst corpus

and grineer

[warm obsidian]

This feels worse ngl

What am I even aiming for

[green gyro]

both bad

reroll

oh you have like no kuva rip

[granite ginkgo]

oh this one nice, since miter incarnon not really matter on ammo specifically

[eternal prism]

left looks better atleast...

crit status not that bad...

[warm obsidian]

Kuva only used for rerolls?

[eternal prism]

yes and some crafts

but not a lot

[warm obsidian]

Fck it
Let's go gambling

[green gyro]

right

[eternal prism]

💀

[green gyro]

right is much better, step by step should just be ignored atp

idk how he manages to be so consistently wrong bru

[eternal prism]

where it better

[green gyro]

are you for real

left has -reload speed and +infested

right has harmless neg and 3 useful stats

[velvet pulsar]

Damage to infested isn't a demanded stat

[eternal prism]

But the left one has a crit and status chance, which is good for the miter in terms of damage

[green gyro]

no. left is dogshit

it has a harmful negative and a dead stat

[velvet pulsar]

That's 2 demanded stats vs 3 demanded stats

[green gyro]

right has 3 useful stats and a harmless negative

it's not a discussion, left is worse

[warm obsidian]

Could just reroll again

[green gyro]

yes do that iyw

[eternal prism]

You're saying that as if you don't have a ton of base damage and don't just need corrosion as a damage multiplie against gineer

[green gyro]

this guy is genuinely so annoying bruh

-reload speed

+infested

stop arguing pls

[eternal prism]

reload speed mean almost nothing💀

[velvet pulsar]

Is this decent? Let's see ur perspectives.

[green gyro]

it's an incarnon

[eternal prism]

I don't use this weapon

[eternal prism]

i know

[green gyro]

affects the transformation animation

[green gyro]

and miter has like no ammo capacity in incarnon form so you are transforming it constantly

[green gyro]

left

[velvet pulsar]

I don't mind negative reload speed anymore because:

1. I got used to 4s reload.
2. I'm convinced reload speed is rather QoL luxury.

[green gyro]

it's ok. +ammo isnt as good as it used to be with the primed mod

yeah this server is cooked💀

[eternal prism]

i know
but this definitely doesn't interfere in any way due to the fact that miter isn't very good in clear for the reasons you described

[green gyro]

direct nerf to your weapon

whatever enjoy giving new players bad advice ig

[velvet pulsar]

But with that said, if u can have better, if u can afford the kuva, reroll

[eternal prism]

it's obvious

[novel bear]

Reload speed is dps

Longer reload is less time shooting

[quiet laurel]

This riven is gonna be in my suicide note

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, like I said, I got used to 4s reload that my bias has been disturbed.

[green gyro]

it's not a bias, it's copium

[velvet pulsar]

It's an unrolled riven, so I won't be rerolling

[green gyro]

the negative is complete shit

especially on dual tox

[velvet pulsar]

4s incarnon transformation, yes

[quiet laurel]

do I hear riven cope

[velvet pulsar]

I need u 2 cringe more

[green gyro]

riven cope is somewhat fine unless you're telling ppl to take an objectively worse roll because of it

which is what is happening

[velvet pulsar]

I wouldn't recommend anyone else this curse

[wide verge]

Whats the best focus?

[quiet laurel]

@green gyro btw are rivens harder to sell the higher the rolls are

or do riven traders seeking god rolls not care much

[quiet laurel]

depends on the content you are doing

[wide verge]

Everything

[quiet laurel]

there is no best then

[bold elbow]

what do i even do to get more dmg ?

[granite ginkgo]

Highest tier lens focus u can craft is Lua Lens tier, best one to use for focus farming is AoE warframe and Mobbin weapons

[green gyro]

depends

if it's not for Endo it doesn't rly matter but 1k+ is a bit ugly

[violet silo]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-looking-at-cat-confused-gif-25251297

[granite ginkgo]

once sold mine for 1k at 236 reroll, that was after i got cc cd ms neg zoom on latron

[bold elbow]

i dunno man

[green gyro]

230 isn't much

[velvet pulsar]

You're about to complete one year in this server, is that your summarized opinion?

[quiet laurel]

surely a 6767 reroll is gonna sell well :clueless:

[green gyro]

🙂‍↕️

[bold elbow]

i guess im missing mods but idk

[green gyro]

worst WF server to talk in out of all imo

[granite ginkgo]

well the highest reroll i done so far is 600 but not planning to sell it (not desperate yet)

[rose owl]

what s the best helminth abiliti to put on volt, i was thk about Desiccation so u can boost the Swarm Kavat (with the specific mod) with ur second abiliti ?

[violet silo]

why do u have 4 status mods

[green gyro]

ur condition overload is r0

[velvet pulsar]

By build oriented, yes.
But the moderation is decent here at least.

[violet silo]

yea thats a popular one

[green gyro]

I disagree but sure

[quiet laurel]

the rules are very questionable

mature game but cant even swear

[velvet pulsar]

Someone said here some days ago that there are "kids" in this server.

In a server of mature game.

[bold elbow]

dunno

[violet silo]

that's bullshit

[quiet laurel]

I mean yeah this server is basically a kindergarten

[violet silo]

it was joke

[green gyro]

the game has lots of extremely sexually suggestive content/dialogue

[velvet pulsar]

bullseye

[bold elbow]

oh maybe i should do 2 toxins

[violet silo]

you can swear if they said it already ig

[velvet pulsar]

Nah Ballas said the B-word

[quiet laurel]

the b word is used in game yet you cant use it here

its just selective picking of words

the argument of "if characters use it in game it can be used here" is bs

[velvet pulsar]

Also it has base 400 ammo max and honestly who would spend a slot just for Primed Ammo Chain unless DE brings Archgun exilus slot.

[brisk wing]

Can anyone explain to me why or how Saryn would be viable in SP? Cause i get that you need to stack up spores but it never stacks fast enough to feel fun/good in SP

[quiet laurel]

her spores suck

her 3 and 1 augment is what makes her insanely good

[brisk wing]

Thats the problem, i like her but man she is just not good for SP imo 😭

[quiet laurel]

and the fact that her 3 is not counted as a dmg buff so you can run roar + toxic lash

[velvet pulsar]

Basically saying weapon platform than ability nuker.

[quiet laurel]

which results in roar tripple dipping on toxic lash toxin DoTs

[brisk wing]

Yeah i can see how thatd be good

[velvet pulsar]

Also don't use spore nuking with panzer Vulpaphyla

[quiet laurel]

and for survivability you either active gate with molt or passive gate

but since molt is so goated as an active gating ability I suggest active gating

[brisk wing]

Molt also gets rid of statuses on you

[velvet pulsar]

Too bad that Well of Life Molt setup was nerfed or it was capable to one-shot many bosses.

[brisk wing]

Seems like im just going to continue using Khora instead

[velvet pulsar]

I wanna use saryn more.
But without relying on augur mods gating.

[granite ginkgo]

try gloom, basically plague simulator

[velvet pulsar]

I guess.

If specters were more abundantly craftable, I'd spam Dante specter with her spores spreading everywhere.

That'd trigger Triumph's overguard generation on everyone

[warped eagle]

Is this good?

[eternal prism]

all

[eternal prism]

no

[wide verge]

ok

[warped eagle]

How to do that

[eternal prism]

for pc only

[brisk wing]

Whats a good ability to subsume on yareli with loyal merulina

Kind of want to go with pyrotechnics

[eternal prism]

any platform

u can put roar... and it give a lot damage💀

[green gyro]

alecaframe, bad and misleading tool

[eternal prism]

secret roar yareli

[brisk wing]

[velvet pulsar]

She has a lot of damage covered because of Loyal Merulina multiplying with Sea Snares damage vulnerability debuff.

[brisk wing]

Oh wait that multiplies?

[velvet pulsar]

So you're multiplying 200×100 or changes based on strength.

[eternal prism]

faction and vulnerability multiply each other

[brisk wing]

Ah i see

[velvet pulsar]

Nah this is vulnerability multiplying with vulnerability

Both cast sea snares

[eternal prism]

i mean with roar

[velvet pulsar]

But for some reason they multiply

[eternal prism]

it give faction

[velvet pulsar]

Roar was not mentioned

[eternal prism]

.

[eternal prism]

.

[velvet pulsar]

.

Triple dots

[night laurel]

this is what they talk about when they say DOTs triple stacking

[brisk wing]

Still, aqua blades are pretty much useless in SP so idk what to subsume on her

[eternal prism]

So in any case, with investments in yareli, the damage multiplier there is around 2k, not counting weapons

[eternal prism]

nah it give u control

fine skill. just underrated

[terse lichen]

@charred gale@eternal prism thank you 2 the build works great

[eternal prism]

cus u anyway not need range

[velvet pulsar]

Do u wanna enable overguard tanking on yareli?

Coz Yareli can allow even normal DR on overguard when other frames can't.

[brisk wing]

I mean a tanky yareli would be pretty fun

[eternal prism]

dont think overguard good on yareli... maybe only just sp without lvl cap

[brisk wing]

Xatas whisper would be funny on yareli

[velvet pulsar]

Tank doesn't really go far

[coral crest]

at cap pretty much all of your armor and shield and health get deleted kind of immediately

[eternal prism]

find 3 mur mur

[velvet pulsar]

It's more just messing around because a frame can do it uniquely

[coral crest]

so you may as well treat your hp in single digits with layers between them

unless youre one of those weirdos like Nidus or use Persistence

[eternal prism]

im meta inaros

[brisk wing]

I am definitely not looking for a level cap build, just stuff i can use comfortably in SP and maybe netracells/achrimedeans

[coral crest]

to my humble experience, cap is just collateral damage to running cascade for fast relics and a lot of vosfor

[velvet pulsar]

For Archimedia I'll not recommend messing around

[eternal prism]

(vazarin)

[ember condor]

Archimedia is either a total pushover or the hardest content you will ever face depending on the weekly modifiers.

[ember condor]

Including a modifier that disables Operator entirely.

[velvet pulsar]

Lack of keyboard health.

[eternal prism]

very rare but still can be abused

[velvet pulsar]

(not talking about mine)

[eternal prism]

i use mouse for it

[coral crest]

Protective Sling through all the consequences

[eternal prism]

scroll...

[coral crest]

Then boom

[eternal prism]

vazarin for cascade good😎

[coral crest]

Transference static

You can probably run anything in cascade now

Thanks to the mods

[velvet pulsar]

There was a yareli build I was planning but it didn't work from my testing

Maybe u can test it further