builds-discussion

[elfin marsh]

I can make gas so I'll try em both and see what I like

but I think melee inflence works better with elec tho unless i'm wrong

[eternal prism]

lectric build has more damage without abuse. They work the same way

[eternal prism]

yes

[modern vale]

I'm confused, Chromatic Blade gives you a 300% status chance. Wdym that it is not 300% status chance base? Even if it isn't 300% base, it is still 300%, right? 3 status per hit guaranteed.

[eternal prism]

If you play the game and don't look for any loopholes in it, yes

[elfin marsh]

is that what happens per 100% status?

like it gives more status the higher it goes up

[eternal prism]

blade have 15% base status chance

augment not give u base status chance

it like mod with 300% status chance

[modern vale]

Yes. A 100% status chance guarantees 1 status effect. 200% guarantees 2 status effects. And so on

[modern vale]

Makes sense, might depend on the build, mine for example, uses Weepings Wounds.

[elfin marsh]

wym base, like on the weapon itself and not on the warframe?

[eternal prism]

yes

[eternal prism]

There's no point in that. It's the same as increasing a weapon's critical chance from 10 or less

if u want use blade u use augment

[elfin marsh]

does weeping not stack with chromatic blade

[eternal prism]

additive

chromatic + weeping

[versed harbor]

ye think of chromatic blade as a status mod (it also scales with strength)

[eternal prism]

if chromatic give 300% and u have 1 combo it give u 340% for example

There is no point in this, provided that you can have more than 1k% from the augment

Just put something that will potentially give more dps like fury for attack speed

[versed harbor]

I still like weeping tbh usually ive got space for it

esp if u dont run a rly high strength excal

[eternal prism]

augment will give you 2 or more times more in any case.

[eternal prism]

u want it anyway

without it ex blade not look strong

[elfin marsh]

rn with chromatic I get 676% status chance with my build

[eternal prism]

He has too many debuffs (from the waves that the sword casts)

If I'm not mistaken, augment doesn't work on them.

or it works very poorly

but again, if you use secret methods...

[modern vale]

Weepings Wounds gives you +440% status (in 12x combo) and Chromatic Blade gives you 300% (more with Strength) Wouldn't it be interesting to have many status chances to apply status faster? I'm just genuinely curious now.

[eternal prism]

augment will give you more in any case

[modern vale]

I see..... Bc of strength, right?

[eternal prism]

2 str mod

so u still need wepeeng wounds?

3 str mods

=169status chance for blade

without mods ofc

other melee weapons have about the same amount status chance

[weak harness]

Hey! Does anyone use voruna with arcane crepuscular and a huras kubrow? I think the arcane won't work on her 4 with her own invisibility, but maybe it will with the kubrow.

[modern vale]

That's very interesting, I didn't know that. I've been working on a build and sinergy for Umbra recently and I'm glad to hear that information, thank you

[old marsh]

Not really. U can skip WW if u use his exalted blade augment coz u get 300% SC straight up

Unless u r going for Influence setup

[eternal prism]

influence setup also not need ww

[old marsh]

For which u want less base dmg and more SC

[eternal prism]

u have 1k% status chance from augment only with 3 mods :/

[old marsh]

So it chains more and more

[eternal prism]

base status ex blade 15%

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[eternal prism]

u not need ww anyway just put another mod

[old marsh]

Ye

[novel bear]

Main thing you would put over ww is smite

[vagrant anvil]

Whats a good helminth to replace resonator on octavia

[novel bear]

If you don’t have a primed smite, ww is probably the best option

[modern vale]

What about Gladiator Might + Blood Rush and Galvanized Steel?

In case, Gladiator Might instead of WW

[eternal prism]

(attack speed)

[novel bear]

You don’t already have attack speed?

[eternal prism]

in this build he not have attack speed

[modern vale]

I have Berserker Fury

[novel bear]

Gladiator might is worse than ww if you have external cd, which you probably should

If you have purple archon shards, every melee exalted frame likes cd

[modern vale]

I will not use Purple Archon Shards, but I get it.
Ig the faction mod might be the best option then, but, I need to test

[old marsh]

Ngl, Excal needs a buff to his passive. Compared to Valkyr’s passive, it looks so tiny.

[novel bear]

A lot of frames need passive buffs

At least it’s not rhino

[old marsh]

[coral crest]

Revenant

[glossy mauve]

Which mod should i yeet to put in equilibrium?

I'll forma this

[timid ivy]

Im trying to set my xaku up for levelcap but Im not sure what shards to have on him

Right now I have just the tau casting speed, and I have ophanim eyes subsumed but I plan on trying out tempest barrage + viral tempest

I was thinking of like 1x tau casting speed, 2x tau equilibrium and then the last 2 not too sure

[eternal prism]

meta

[green gyro]

never 2 equilibrium tbh

just do str and parkour/cast

[timid ivy]

Is 1 still enough?

If im not running EQ on my mods

[karmic tree]

You don't like purple archon?

[karmic tree]

So much yellow mods

[eternal prism]

yes need 6 equilibrium

[modern vale]

It's not that I don't like them lmao, it's just that I'll use Red Shards. Although I can think of Purple Shards

[wind ocean]

any substitutions for bane mods? aint no way im using them. i dont even have prime ones

[karmic badger]

Roar

Roar is effectively a universal bane mod

[karmic tree]

Understandable, but reason why violet shards are highly used is not just because of the crit damage, but that doubles when your warframe's max energy is over 500 (max, not current)

[karmic tree]

So essentially violet shards in terms for crit damage is more potent than red

[eternal prism]

depends gun. another multishot/fire rate

always good choice

[karmic tree]

Regular bane mods still do the job

[novel bear]

Shred or primed shred

[karmic tree]

Primed shred

[eternal prism]

Not necessarily. Just if people don't want to use them, let them not use them

[novel bear]

That wasn’t a question

[karmic tree]

Ah ok mb,

[karmic tree]

If you're referring to @wind ocean , he did mention he doesn't have the primed mods

[novel bear]

Not the primed banes

Didn’t say anything about shred

[modern vale]

Hummm I see. The problem is that I would potentially have to use a lot of blue Archon Shards for max energy (with 2 Blue Shards, one Tauforged and other not, I have 350 max energy) and my Umbra build doesn't have a slot for a Flow, so, Red Shards ends up being more valuable for me.

I'm focusing on killing faster -> Arcane Reaper -> surviving.
My objective is making Umbra viable and a killing machine for Early and Mid SP (I'm just doing this for fun)

[knotty flicker]

Hi, can someone recommend me good SP syam build for kullervo

[compact cypress]

should i drop some range so i can have neutral efficiency for my garuda? feels like i run out of energy really quick

[late hemlock]

You should never be running out of garuda because 3 exists

[night laurel]

i ran out of garuda :(

[eternal prism]

There are 3 options for sustaining energy on garuda

gloom (sevagoth skill)
equilibrium
and arcane

most convenient is the arcana, but it also takes up a whole arcana slot

[late hemlock]

You mean hp sustain not energy?

[eternal prism]

equilibrium is also good for sustain, but it requires a slightly different build

[versed harbor]

they go hand in hand ig

[eternal prism]

and hp and energy

[novel bear]

Well of life subsume

[eternal prism]

equilibrium give both

i use this
more precisely when I was testing her claws in level cap
There are some things to change here, but overall it will be playable and quite convenient

Garuda doesn't need any stats except some str

u can balance for more range but for me didn't need it

[late hemlock]

You literally cant run out of energy by using 3

[eternal prism]

depends build
I would abandon nourish on garuda in favor of something less stat-dependent.

cus she have enough damage anyway for all...

[late hemlock]

Nourish makes it more efficient but the result is the same

I can spam 4 instead of it and its still infinite

Nourish just does a ton of stuff for her

[compact cypress]

its more that im just having to top it up so much

[late hemlock]

Thats part of nourish helping, makes 3 restore more energy

[eternal prism]

With any of the possible hp sustain settings, it will be the same. It depends on whether you need it or not

[stiff bane]

hey new player here!
Is Nataruk worth putting forma on it? My main weapon is soma prime but i liked how netaruk make split damage. It seems hard to play cause of charging bow but it can be fun i guess

[compact cypress]

reconstruct+nourish over her 2 seems to be the way

[late hemlock]

Definitely my recommend

[eternal prism]

nataruk fine

[compact cypress]

naturuk is great, definitely put some forma on it

[late hemlock]

Reconstruct is no brainer and nourish has a ton of benefits for garuda

[eternal prism]

In any case, garuda has such a small dependency that it can be built however you like.

[compact cypress]

fr

im in love with this frame istg

[eternal prism]

https://tenor.com/view/winkythedwarfcat-winky-cat-sad-tired-gif-6471914036130722371

[fierce lark]

nataruk is one of the strongest weapons in the game and is ridiculously overtuned for when you get it

absolutely worth the investment

"strongest" is overblowing it a little when there are very clear top tier quality weapons but it's very strong

[abstract axle]

Nataruk (and broken war to a lesser extent) are like the defender weapons in monster hunter, they are far above what you should have at that point, and you should use them to speed through content thanks to the sheer bulk of stuff to do after

[fierce lark]

if i were to make a list of top 10 primaries in the game (as every content creator has done) nataruk would be either near the bottom or an honorable mention

[weary yacht]

what shards should I prio with Slumbering Dragon Chroma? (gloom chroma)

[lean tendon]

Nataruk mentioned, we are spamming perfect shots on this one 🗣️ 🔥

[weary yacht]

nataruk once you instinctively pull off perfect shots is a damn nice weapon

[craggy niche]

overframe wtf

lmao

reminds me of ricky bobby and the fig newton sticker lol

[fierce lark]

large archibald

[undone dust]

macdonal

[night laurel]

burgerframe

[fierce lark]

big arch is ight

i had it last year cause it came to canada first

it's just a bigger big mac with white cheddar and a slightly different sauce

depending on where you are it might add crispy onions as an options

[pulsar linden]

I had no real issues at mot.

[urban cave]

I assure you mcdonalds is generally always better outside of the US

[barren birch]

ok, so I'm divine spear nezhaing it, and while normal enemies are no issue, bosses don't take much damage from my guns. What would be a good secondary (I need cedo prime for spreading stacks) for that? (or if I'm just bad at the game let me know that) archon flow will become augur reach once I get another blue archon shard

I'd also like a good two handed sword for Nezha if possible

[earnest saddle]

tenet exec or paracesis

[spiral chasm]

Do bosses even get affected by his 4?

[barren birch]

nope that's why I mentioned guns

they do by 2 tho, some of them

[spiral chasm]

Yes 2 is a vulnerability so def take dmg from that

[barren birch]

should I wait for a higher roll or just grab it and work towards hitting it to 60

[spiral chasm]

Do u have any of the incarnons?

[barren birch]

Lateum incarnon, but can't do it's V upgrade until I get other incarnons (unless unequiping works and I just messed something up before)

[spiral chasm]

Is it the hs one?

[zenith gust]

i claimed hildryn from the foundry but i dont know how to build her... good?
i kinda blindfolded myself and pushed buttons

[barren birch]

HS?

[spiral chasm]

Headshot

[barren birch]

nah it's the "full mission solo with an incarnon in each slot"

[spiral chasm]

Oooh

You need primary secondary and melee

[barren birch]

:( I'm not that stupid thesshy, just a lil bit

I know what "equiped in every slot" means ;-;

[spiral chasm]

Hmmm a good non incarnon secondary 🤔

[mighty flare]

high range & strength is good, shield mods are very good
precision intensify and expertise dont pair well, either swap to umbral or use aegis/molt augmented
theres summary of her kit & help: https://discord.com/channels/552966801558863896/1481553563485212692

[barren birch]

I mean it doesn't even have to be non-incarnon. I just need something to deal with bosses. Cedo Prime is nice but I'm not exactly hitting for a lot on bosses with it

[spiral chasm]

I mean for incarnon i like to use prisma angstrum

Easy to charge since it charges on body shots

And angstrum raw dps is pretty good too

[earnest saddle]

you won't need a super high roll, and later on you can get an item to let you change the element on it as you please

[barren birch]

there's a 30 heat one right now which goes well with Nehza

[modest phoenix]

good chakkurr build advice? w riven or without

[earnest saddle]

go ahead and grab that then

[barren birch]

why is the exxec a level higher than the other ones

[earnest saddle]

i don't think mastery rank is enforced for tenet vendor weapons, so you SHOULD be able to grab it?

[barren birch]

nope

which is crazy cuz I grabbed a different one last week

[earnest saddle]

i don't know why they even have them listed in the first place, but oh well

[shell tundra]

Does Duplex Bond contribute to Synth Deconstruct?

[chrome badge]

No

[late hemlock]

Iirc mastery rank is enforced on tenet melees

[chrome badge]

Clones do not proc synth decons health orb on companion assist

[earnest saddle]

yup, wiki agrees

[chrome badge]

The vendor exclusive lich weapons deserve to be enforced

Bc wym you can skip the whole sister grind for weapons that are kinda overkill like Exec which is just a side grade to Sampotes or like uhhhhhhhh tenet ferrox which is just an improvement to ferrox in every way

Or like bassocyst, synapse, motovore, etc etc which are super duper stronk

[green solstice]

can someone clarify something, because Im bit dumb

yareli passive says moving = more CC, so enervate builds are not recommend to run?

[chrome badge]

Yea

Actually hmmmm

They’re additive to each other

[green solstice]

BECAUSE, my past self is putting her with kompressa together with enervate build, and need to figure out why

[chrome badge]

So less shots would theoretically be needed to get the red crit before enervate resets

Oh kompressa is broken with enervate

Essentially the bubbles hitting an enemy count as a hit toward enervate and then their explosion is another set of hits

Allowing for you land say orange direct hits, charging your enervate to red and then when the bubbles explode all of them hit for red crits

[green solstice]

indeed broken in fact, I belive because of yareli 1 I didnt fully notice, that dumb decision

[limpid belfry]

is Jade's alternate fire based on fire rate?

[static sphinx]

Focusing on the shield for Koumei is a bad decision, right?

[green solstice]

like shield gating build or modding for more shield?

[static sphinx]

I'm new, and I want to improve her survivability. But I've meant about mods specifically.

I guess it would be better if I send a screenshot, and just ask about what is best to do.

[green solstice]

for survialbility you have your 3

[static sphinx]

(everything here was upgraded for mag previously)

[shell tundra]

So if Duplex Bond doesn’t contribute to either Synth Deconstruct or Dethcube’s Energy Generator, why would I even use Duplex Bond in the first place?

[chrome badge]

Bc kills from the clones drop energy

[static sphinx]

I just want to have a decent and balanced build, my bad if I caused misunderstanding. I just think that improving survivability is essential.

[chrome badge]

Just use a weapon with dmg potential

Like the popular verglas viral heat combo etc etc

[mighty flare]

nah, alt-glory gets no fire rate, dmg% or multishot

[shell tundra]

Aren’t the clones unmodded or do I are have the stupid?

[limpid belfry]

i thought u could increase the damage via mods

[chrome badge]

They’re immortal + they copy your sentinel gun

[shell tundra]

Ah, so does Momentous Bond contribute to the shoulder buddies dakka or am I wasting slots?

[chrome badge]

As far as I know they don’t and if they do it’d only affect the primary sentinel and not the clones

[fierce lark]

other bond mods and whatnot don't apply to duplex clones

[shell tundra]

Ah, so Momentous Bond’s literal only purpose is faster respawn, got it : /

[green solstice]

ah reactorless koumei, it might be bit tricky?

koumei how I played relies on that dice feature on her. Her 3 cast charms who take damage in a chance and heal you instead.

so perhaps leaning to HP can help you bit more out

[static sphinx]

So, vitality/carnis carpace instead of redirection, and physique instead of dreamer's bond?

[mighty flare]

yes you can, but mods like hornet strike don't apply for the alt

[fierce lark]

koumei doesn't care about strength or duration, get as much range as you can (200% is enough to cap the amount of threads on 1), the omakuji's fortune augment (only really useful in endurance) and use the rest of the slots for survivability

[green solstice]

better keep dreamers bond, because you dont have any energy source and health, just try only with vitality

[brittle sleet]

Leaning HP is an option, but for early game survivability I always recommend Fast Deflection + Vigilante Vigor

Cheap mod cost and easy to set up

[quiet laurel]

and is the go to anyway

[brittle sleet]

Works on almost every frame too

[static sphinx]

I've already got rid of strength and duration (those were put automatically), I didn't consider range though, thanks.

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks.

[fierce lark]

dreamer's bond is energy sustain in the same way that subway bread is bread

[thorn oak]

subway cake

[brittle sleet]

Energy Siphon is the same way really but both are something for early game players at least

[quiet laurel]

dont you get equilibrium at the start now

like 10x better energy sustain than siphon or bond

[brittle sleet]

Equilibrium is better but mod cost is a bigger issue for an early game player, as is opportunity cost. Not to mention early game they're dealing with less enemy density and thus less orbs, likely no Synth Deconstruct either

When they basically never have auras that fit their frames' natural polarities too, but Dreamers is an omni polarity? Honestly a godsend

[static sphinx]

Is any non prime frame/weapon worth using reactor/catalyst? (Apologies if it's incorrect channel to ask such question)

[green solstice]

galv shot or LT?

[solid delta]

the stuff that doesnt have prime versions

[static sphinx]

I wanted to use one on Koumei, but I'm not sure how good it would actually be. I just can't estimate the actual value of reactors/catalysts, and don't want to just waste them.

[solid delta]

its only 20p for a catalyst

it shouldnt be anything to wory about

[static sphinx]

I know, but I'm free to play as for now.

[solid delta]

you dont have to pay to get platinum

[static sphinx]

Isn't it paid currency, and only 50 is given for free?

[quiet laurel]

you can trade for plat

when people mean that everything except some cosmetics is free to play then they actually mean it

[midnight horizon]

All just be obtained in game without spending a dime

Except tenno Gen skins hahaha

[quiet laurel]

thank god I am playstation

[midnight horizon]

You lucky mofo

[static sphinx]

So, could I get at least 1 catalyst/reactor per week for free?

[quiet laurel]

some content usually always has a catalyst or reactor available

less so for early game tho I fear

[midnight horizon]

The time I kept asking my mentor for Reactors was so embarassing hahahaha

[static sphinx]

Alright then. I guess I'll use one for Koumei, since I have only 2. She's decent overall, right?

[midnight horizon]

She is very good tbh

Nice Status giver
Nice tanking ability (her 3)
Decent CC (her 4 and 1)

[static sphinx]

Since she's good and doesn't have a prime, I'll use the reactor.

Thanks for convincing me I guess

[half mica]

Guys I need help

I'm about to get cyte bundle but I wanna get a secondary weapon and melee weapon to match with his theme any ideas?

[quiet laurel]

melee praedos for parkour velocity and akarius cause you can spam the shit out of it with his ammo packs

[half mica]

I don't see the melee

@quiet laurel

[quiet laurel]

where are you looking

[half mica]

Market

[quiet laurel]

it doesnt appear there

you have to buy it from a zariman vendor

[half mica]

💀

Does it cost with plat

Since uh I'll be getting 1025 plat

[half mica]

Gauss weapon?

[quiet laurel]

specifically the prime variant

[half mica]

Bro I'm Mr 11

[quiet laurel]

welp

game is an endless grind

[half mica]

So akairus and what melee?

[quiet laurel]

praedos cause no other melee matters for him

he has no melee buffs

[half mica]

Whats the mr

[quiet laurel]

idk

[solid delta]

you cant use praedos at mr11

[fierce lark]

his “theme” is Quincy (headshot focused sniper) but snipers mostly suck lmao

[half mica]

Sad

[solid delta]

also it requires rank 4 holdfast syndicate

[half mica]

I could gi for Corufell

[fierce lark]

you can trade praedos bp

and all the holdfast weapon bps

so they’re not syndicate rank locked

there are a few weapons which are normally not great that completely break the game when used by cyte

[half mica]

Wait hear me out

[novel bear]

Acid shells sobek

Doesn’t matter the mr, since it’s a lich weapon

[quiet laurel]

(if host)

[novel bear]

I hate host/client bugs

[fierce lark]

sobek with acid shells, kuva bramma, kuva ogris, kuva zarr, tenet envoy, akarius prime

[quiet laurel]

its in known issues surely its gonna be fixed next update with no further bugs being added

[fierce lark]

the last two are fine on their own but still resupply breaks them

[solid delta]

I dont recommend aoe weapons if you dont have psf

[quiet laurel]

cool trick, activate archgun, easy overguard, spam AoE weapons

[novel bear]

Circumvent

Fortifier

[fierce lark]

if you don’t have psf you can use a mod slot for fortitude instead or just use circumvent, cautious shot on your weapon exilus, unairu, wyrm

[quiet laurel]

or use the other 2 mods that add up to 100% knockdown immunity

[fierce lark]

or yeah fortifier archgun

or a fortifier secondary

[novel bear]

Fortifier akarius is pretty good

[solid delta]

its still really annoying

[fierce lark]

there’s 70 ways to immune knockdown that aren’t psf

[solid delta]

not worth

[novel bear]

Psf on atlas, trust

[fierce lark]

bro anything that generates overguard on cyte has to be used once per mission

how annoying can that possibly be

[solid delta]

one stray bullet

and your overguard is gone

[half mica]

Cyte signature weapon, akairus and hespar

[fierce lark]

one stray bullet isn’t deleting 15k overguard at any level below like 2k

[half mica]

I can go for hespar but Mr locked

[quiet laurel]

hespar cyte new tech unlocked

[half mica]

Did I cook?

[novel bear]

Hespar is bad

[fierce lark]

you overcooked a bit

[quiet laurel]

a 1 star meal yeah

[solid delta]

do you know how long it takes to get enough overguard from fortifier

[fierce lark]

no but i keep being told it’s literally 1 eximus to cap it

[solid delta]

eximus doesnt spawn right when you start the mission

[solid delta]

no lol, level 200 eximus gives like 6k at best

[fierce lark]

yeah and you aren’t forced to shoot at your own feet with aoe weapons

[half mica]

Uhh what weapon quick since imma buy now-

🤧

We already locked in for secondary

[novel bear]

Cyte also wants headshots though
And aoe weapons are bad at that
Akarius homes towards center of mass pretty sure

[quiet laurel]

this guy gonna waste plat

[fierce lark]

if you want the true power of cyte, pick from this list

[half mica]

💀 I just got it

[half mica]

FF, I need your melee recommendation for cyte theme

[solid delta]

its not that difficult to farm cyte

[fierce lark]

i was able to get headshots on bramma consistently enough to almost always be in evade and have deadhead stacked

without manual detonations

[novel bear]

Bows are fine

[half mica]

I trust FF, he or she can cook

[fierce lark]

elec procs just headshot sometimes

[novel bear]

Sobek?

[quiet laurel]

the headshot stuff can pretty much be ignored cause all you need is his 2 DoTs and mag refill

the headshot stuff is extra if you can make use of it

dont even need evade

[novel bear]

What are you using for survival, cat shields?

[fierce lark]

headshots mostly to keep evade active

[half mica]

@quiet laurel you the og, what melee do I get

[quiet laurel]

ye

you spam 2 anyway for ammo

[quiet laurel]

praedos as said, any other melee has like no significance on cyte

[half mica]

Mk

[fierce lark]

i was only using evade for survival tbh and it was rarely ever inactive + on cooldown

[half mica]

End of discussion of my comment

[quiet laurel]

buy whatever looks cool to you ig but I dont suggest subjective stuff

[half mica]

https://tenor.com/dlbWGQW2zDv.gif

[fierce lark]

don’t buy farmable things from the market with plat, in-game market is a scam

[solid delta]

I use dual coda torxica on cyte

[quiet laurel]

unless you have the plat

but 1k is too low for that

[quiet laurel]

I dont even use it in arbi

I dont like the muffled sounds while evade is active

[solid delta]

surviving in arbi isnt a problem

[quiet laurel]

need that boar/sobek to brrrrt in my ear

[quiet laurel]

it indeed isnt

you dont even mod for survivability

all you do is activate archgun OG at most

wisp mote giving you 6k health also helps ig

[true marten]

what arcanes do yall recommend for Xaku

[safe ore]

Would i get more value building Atlas fists with viral or gas

[versed harbor]

probs gas if not elec

[midnight horizon]

None

Delete those mods

Go full range and full efficiency

And break boxes

[tepid scaffold]

Electric

Influence ftw

[late hemlock]

Also recommending influence

Don't need to overkill fists with damage might as well maximize aoe

[versed harbor]

tbh im just assuming trying to break away from influence

[safe ore]

I have an influence build already im trying to do something with exposure

Influence is great i just overused it trying to spice things up

[late hemlock]

You can do that and its gonna be strong

But you will end up just being less effective because your aoe is smaller

[warm obsidian]

Anyone has a Protea build I can use v:

[spark thorn]

Does anyone know if the hystrix prime has addative or multiplicative interaction with galvanized shot?

[valid cargo]

Does anyone have a stron gyre prime build for steelpath?

[midnight horizon]

Does anyone have anyone?

I need a build for build

[tepid scaffold]

Yeah, geared for level cap tho

Still interested?

[valid cargo]

Yes

@tepid scaffold just like gauss i canr seem to find a strong build for both

[tepid scaffold]

Not letting me post the screenshot

[hidden hazel]

Lf help for start chart

[elfin marsh]

curious on recommendations for another arcane for excalibur umbra? I currently have arcane fury on

[normal folio]

Can anyone recommend me new weapons? I'm having trouble clearing enemies on Deimos now

Every single shot just tickles the enemy

[torn karma]

Cedo is good

[night laurel]

level up your guns and build them first, don't use thornbak

[normal folio]

Thornbak is the best weapon that I gave for now

[normal folio]

Locked

[torn karma]

Well what i did when i started the game was play with excalibur

His exaulted weapon shreads all

And when i was enough MR i got even better weapons

But do whatever suits u more

[night laurel]

you have better weapons, level and build them first before going through deimos

[torn karma]

Yeah go to warframe wiki see which weapons u can get at your level

[normal folio]

Which is..?

[torn karma]

Their are a lot of good weapons

Which MR are u?

Your level?

[night laurel]

you could pick one and build it. i'd say boltor or braton or burston

[torn karma]

Burston is good

Even without incarnon

[normal folio]

Mr3

[torn karma]

Yeah focus on leveling up a little more and completing storyline

You can get nataruk its an amazing weapon

[frank spruce]

Don't bother with the Burston, the Thornbak is the better beginner weapon. Put magnetic (cold + electricity) on it if eximus enemies are giving you trouble.

[violet silo]

not really

[torn karma]

It is in early game i think

Man early game i used weapons only as an accessory

Used excals exaulted to shred everything

[frank spruce]

It's not, because the Thornbak exists. Higher damage per burst, faster reload, same status (which translates to more status since it's an extra round per burst) and, critically for a new player, comes with a potato.

[lean tendon]

Thornbak goated

Hitscan as well

[torn karma]

Potato is the best

[lean tendon]

I only swapped out my Thornbak after getting Broken War

[violet silo]

nothing matters early game

it took me too long to realize that lol

[lean tendon]

Well technically I still have it equipped after getting Broken War but I was permanently using melee since they deal so much in the early game

[violet silo]

guns dont matter in the early game, what matters is mods

[torn karma]

That's true i guess

And what matters is the time u spend with your friends

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-eeee-gif-24636179

[lean tendon]

Well it helps that Thornbak has a pre-installed orokin catalyst

More mods to put in

[torn karma]

Potato best

[lean tendon]

Also high status chance to abuse mixed elements

Crit chance is meh but it's a free weapon so it's bound to have some disadvantages

[torn karma]

Yeah it was a good add with the teacher quest

[craggy niche]

any good reason to keep massetar?

[lean tendon]

If it's the normal one prob none

Higher dispo than prime variant but that's it

[craggy niche]

oh i meant the prime

like does it have any cool gimmicks?

[lean tendon]

Grendel is immune to crowd control when he uses messeter heavy attacks

And also has some cool skins as well

[versed harbor]

yee but grendel is also perma status immune anyway O___O

[lean tendon]

It's a sick weapon design

With sick tennogen skins

Other than that, it's meh I guess

[normal folio]

You guys have friends?

Can't relate

[normal folio]

Trying to get prime volt asap cause it sounds cool

[torn karma]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/crying-uglycry-gif-4697122292657763175

https://tenor.com/view/horrible-crying-noooo-no-gif-11951898

[elfin marsh]

yeah it's really good

[torn karma]

It is

[normal folio]

What planet is the best to grind for his relic?

[white mauve]

I can’t decide on which one seems better over all could anyone help me

I need that combo multiplier it’s used in activating my incarnon but in the other case the status nuke is insane

[torn karma]

I think volt prime is vaulted

[normal folio]

Wdym vaulted

[white mauve]

No longer have access to it

[torn karma]

So either you need to vaid for prime resurgence or buy vanguard relics or volt prime relics all together

[white mauve]

Kinda like Fortnite lmao

[winged lintel]

volt prime relics tend to show up in baro stock, otherwise have to wait until he shows up in resurgence

[torn karma]

It means when a relic gets old they lock it to make room for new ones and those locked relics can be bought from maroo in maroo's bazae or market under prime resurgence on specific times

[steep acorn]

What archon shards do I run on jade? Topaz or Crimson?

[normal folio]

Damn so I have to wait?

[torn karma]

Depends on your build man

[torn karma]

Or buy it up to you

[winged lintel]

reroll, both arent ideal, they both have one or two great stats, but the negatives and other positive traits arent ideal

finisher damage is usually used as a dump negative stat, unless you are using finishers, and +damage to infested isnt that great since infested are the easiest to kill

[outer jewel]

anything i can do to improve this build? besides like doing viral instead of blast and longbow sharpshot

blast seemed like a silly idea

nataruk build btw

[thorn oak]

blast is good on nataruk

[outer jewel]

thinking something similar with Daikyu

[thorn oak]

maybe dont have vile acceleration

[outer jewel]

why?

[thorn oak]

you are only losing with vile acceleration, every fire rate mod is 2x for bows

[winged lintel]

get vile from corrupted vaults using dragon keys, its fairly easy, just all RNG

[outer jewel]

except drop chamber for acuity and probably drop gaptitude for amalgam daikyu target acquired

[outer jewel]

👍

[lean tendon]

Blast is actually good. Viral imo is weaker because Nataruk is mostly a one shot weapon. Electricity is best.

[thorn oak]

so yea u can literally put any fire rate mod on it wont matter but vile acceleration is only taking damage away and not giving any bonus

[winged lintel]

otherwise use speed trigger

until you get vile

[midnight horizon]

Nataruk has low Status Chance

A viral won't work properly

Either go Pure Electric or Blast

[lean tendon]

This is my build. Shred can be replaced by Speed Trigger.

[winged lintel]

yeah, if you have it from loggin in

[lean tendon]

Not really low, it's just that it's a one shot weapon so you can't really be stacking element procs to it.

[winged lintel]

or you just mean normal shred

[frank spruce]

Vaulted relics still exist in the game for people who already had them. If you have any platinum, you can trade for the relics and hope you get the parts, or trade for the parts directly (which will cost more.)

[thorn oak]

shred isnt doing anything for the nataruk either

[midnight horizon]

Yup

But still low hahahah

[thorn oak]

they all give the fire rate it dont matter

[lean tendon]

Perfect shot has a 50% status chance

How is that low? Xd

[thorn oak]

just dont use vile cuz it takes away damage

[midnight horizon]

It does

Punch Through can punch through walls

Nataruk has infinite body Punch Through

[thorn oak]

how often are you shooting through walls

[midnight horizon]

A8ght I mightve overlooked

[outer jewel]

do you rly need that tho

[midnight horizon]

Everytime a bunch crowd is on the other side of the wall

[thorn oak]

no u dont, literally speed trigger is just as good youre not gonna be shooting thru walls with it

[midnight horizon]

I'll Just boom them while not worrying on me getting hit

[midnight horizon]

Vile Acceleration is my best bet

[lean tendon]

While Nataruk has an infinite body punch through, it doesn't have punch through on materials. Shred/Primed Shred helps if an enemy is hiding in a wall or similar cases.

[normal folio]

This refreshes right?

[thorn oak]

vile acceleration so you literally lose 15% damage? that makes no sense

[outer jewel]

only 6 days left D:

[winged lintel]

it changes, yes. to different primes offered

[outer jewel]

i haven't even started 😭

[thorn oak]

every fire rate mod gives x2 on bows nothing more nothing less

[midnight horizon]

Still good tbh 15% for a lesser charge speed? That's better than nothing

At least I can spam Charged shots and watch the crowd got erased by the blast

[lean tendon]

Speed Trigger vs Shred is more of a preference since some people have a harder time doing perfect shots at a higher fire rate.

But Primed Shred imo is BiS but that takes like 200 login days.

[thorn oak]

dude what are you not getting, vile gives the same amount of speed as speed trigger and shred

[outer jewel]

ok so i've been doing some stuff with the sobek and sayrn and i thought it would be funny to make more all rounder build for it i can just slap on anyone and cooked this up

[normal folio]

Directly as in this?

[midnight horizon]

Not really

It's different from others

[outer jewel]

(havent been able to test it yet)

[thorn oak]

the only difference is vile literally takes damage away

[outer jewel]

idea is just as many blast procs as possible

[thorn oak]

no its not dude every fire rate mod is x2 on bows\

[outer jewel]

probably with the scyotid too

[midnight horizon]

It's still faster than shred or speed trigger

[outer jewel]

woag

[thorn oak]

no its not they are both x2 🤦‍♂️

[winged lintel]

its that base amount x2

[thorn oak]

youre actually LOSING using vile due to the -15% damage

[lean tendon]

Technically, Vile Acceleration is actually a DPS increase on most weapons even with the -15% damage due to the fire rate and calculations. For Nataruk though, Vile Acceleration makes your perfect shot way harder to do.

Critical Delay + Speed Trigger/Shred/Primed Shred feels better for perfect shots.

[thorn oak]

I would run speed trigger

[winged lintel]

so if on a bow, that shred will give 60%, vile will give it 180% basically

[midnight horizon]

The lesser number is Vile Acceleration

The higher number is Speed trigger

Told you it's different

[winged lintel]

its not exact amounts though

[outer jewel]

should i add the coda sporothrix to my list of "slow firing precision weapons that i've made explode for some reason"

[lean tendon]

Again with the Speed Trigger vs Shred, it's just a matter of preference. But if you have Primed Shred then that's better than Speed Trigger.

[outer jewel]

i have the augemnt

two of the them for some reason

[midnight horizon]

. 36 for Vile Acceleration
. 45 for Speed Trigger

It's different

[craggy niche]

This is what I use, fused is flexi obviously and so is the top right, Nina's or whatever. Use whatever you want to cover the dogshit the devs call her 4th

[winged lintel]

that x2 just means the amount given is doubled when used on bows, if that makes more sense

[midnight horizon]

That's why I go Vile Acceleration bc it's faster

[outer jewel]

makes it harder to get your perfect shots off tho

[thorn oak]

im surprised to see someone else using archon stretch on wisp usually every frowns upon it

[outer jewel]

prolly gonna speed trigger

[midnight horizon]

Eh that's true

But I go Shotgun Nataruk hahahahah with blast

[lean tendon]

It's what I'm saying since earlier xd

[outer jewel]

don't like when its too fast

[tidal parrot]

agreeing with astraye here, the best fire rate mod is the one you can hit perfect shots the most with, if thats speed triger, shred, or primed shred then you should use that

[lean tendon]

But my replies are getting ignored

[craggy niche]

Something something electric motes hurt me when I was a child etc

[outer jewel]

im doing the "slow firing 'crack a planet in half'" nataruk

[midnight horizon]

I'll catch you homie

[midnight horizon]

XDDDD aight fair fair

[torn karma]

Yes

[outer jewel]

fun fact: i have a build thats just this but with primary bulwark because my mains are lavos and valkyr

[thorn oak]

slowed enemy + max energy all the time < not slow enemy and no energy

[outer jewel]

turns everything to dust

[normal folio]

Does it have a schedule or is it random

[torn karma]

Yes

[craggy niche]

Yes

[outer jewel]

not if you use the augment

[violet silo]

feel like you can do a fast firing crack a planet in half nataruk

[winged lintel]

not really, all up to what DE decides will return

[midnight horizon]

My Nataruk is mostly used by Inaros & Hydroid so.... It's just blast hahahaha

[violet silo]

might be better

[craggy niche]

Even then it's kinda gimmicky

[thorn oak]

how about u just buy my nataruk riven

[outer jewel]

fair

[midnight horizon]

Let me guess... It'll be 300p

I want it but I'm broke!!!!

[outer jewel]

a nataruk riven????????
lowest riven dispo of all time 😭

[normal folio]

Dang

[midnight horizon]

What are you suggesting

[thorn oak]

its not even that good of a riven i cant lie i just have never used it

[midnight horizon]

It's better to have one hahahab

[outer jewel]

not rly

[thorn oak]

i used it instead of a fire rate mod

[tidal parrot]

prty much, cat gate with breach surge is good vs chaff but its that vs free multiplicitive damage on all your weapons

[midnight horizon]

Aight I gtg

[thorn oak]

most mediocre riven ever

[craggy niche]

I low-key enjoy ophie eyes the most on wisp but dont tell Noone

[outer jewel]

not at all worth imo

[winged lintel]

a riven with 1/5 riven dispo "can" be useful, can give you some much needed utility, but you wont get a lot out of em unless theyre near godlike rolls

[violet silo]

FR is good.

[outer jewel]

can't waste an extra forma to slot that

[lean tendon]

But yeah anyways, Nataruk is a one shot weapon so elements like Viral or Corrosive are imo not that good. Use Electricity or Blast to abuse 50% status chance on perfect shots and use external primer instead.

For fire rate, use Speed Trigger or Shred/Primed Shred. Whichever is more comfortable doing perfect shots. I personally prefer Primed Shred but I don't have it so I'm just using Shred.

[outer jewel]

ooooooooooooooooooooooh

[tidal parrot]

i just like having a bigger roar buff then rhinos :) (plus i dont use bane mods so double dip dots from roar)

[outer jewel]

ITS BLASTING TIME BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[lean tendon]

I actually want a Nataruk riven. Racist riven mod is what I want to have since I saw it can reach 1.3x which is pretty much a subsumed Roar

[midnight horizon]

Show me the build, I'll copy it for Inaros later heheheh

[outer jewel]

im pretty sure at SP level a full armor stip is like 6x effective damage increas? if it was a choice betwen AC and roar and i feel like AC is the better option?

could be wrong tho

[midnight horizon]

A partial armor strip is enough tbh

[violet silo]

it's ninjase's build
with tweak cuz banes 🤢

[midnight horizon]

...... Yeah fck that hahahahah

[craggy niche]

Most of the armor is in the first 10 nowadays

[midnight horizon]

Hold on, does Gauss full armor strip?

[outer jewel]

they should have enough strength to get the fulls trip from ophanim eyes i think

[tidal parrot]

since jade shadows full strip isnt as important plus atleast with my wisp which is like a 600% ability strength build thats smthn around i wana say about a 200% roar buff which is really hard to aurge with

[violet silo]

yes

[outer jewel]

yeah

[midnight horizon]

Oh shit hahahahha

Oh wait it make sense

[outer jewel]

at 100% batter during redline, making blast from thermal sunder will 100% armor strip then do damage

[violet silo]

with corro projection you need 82% battery to sunder strip

[outer jewel]

its rly good

[midnight horizon]

Ah so I'm good with 0ure duration hahahha

[outer jewel]

you could also just get 100% battery and use like rifle amp

[violet silo]

with... what

[midnight horizon]

Did you see the video me doing a nuke using a simple 1 cold and 1 hot?

[outer jewel]

it's not hard

[midnight horizon]

Oh not pure... My shards are pure durstion on gauss

[violet silo]

corro projection is an aura that fits in the the aura slot with no forma, why would I use rifle amp on nuke gauss

[midnight horizon]

Melpomene

[violet silo]

not that I'd ever use rifle amp anyways

[outer jewel]

just saying you don't rly need corrosive projection

[tidal parrot]

lvl 84 enemies 🥀

[violet silo]

dw
I know how to play gauss

[midnight horizon]

No no I'm just showing off what I learn

I'm lika a kid showing off to my parents hahahah

[midnight horizon]

It's lvl 180

[tidal parrot]

something something thermal sunder spam something something isnt that titania's ability

[violet silo]

oh lol

[tidal parrot]

i c now, there was some dude or spawn in there at level 84 XD

[violet silo]

yeah I kinda like gauss how'd you guess (my dms with sombra)

[midnight horizon]

Ye I noticed when I rewatxhed it hahaha

[craggy niche]

iirc rifle and pistol amp are justl ike a extra 1/8th of a serration mod additively

[tidal parrot]

bro was lost and got nuked for no reason 🥀

[craggy niche]

once bellicose is up and augmented i have over 500 str including growing power, it's under two seconds strip for everything in front of me for 30 meters lmao

and i only have to cast it once every 42 seconds

[violet silo]

I'd either run corro proj or sprint boost on gus

sprint boost is just for fun cuz SPEEED

corro proj is utility

[craggy niche]

not saying it's optimal but ophie is a fun option if you have a well fed wisp lol

[tidal parrot]

im prty sure gundition overload mods kinda phase out rifle/pistol amp

[craggy niche]

how did you edit this and somehow make it worse lol

[tidal parrot]

idk 😭

im trying and by god it is not my best

my cat gate build is 1:1 with my 599% ability strength build but instead of the cat gate augment its primed flow and roar over the 4

this does use 5 tua forged ability strength shards for more strength though

probably doesnt need 9 forma as ive probably formaed over smthn

proabbly could but im on my chroma arc rn

you just spam your 2 for invincibility gating

and your invis while in the air

so between those, cc with breach surge and shock motes you can probably go to level cap

although i would probably say to not do my build and look for like a persistence build instead ig? i mostly use it at under lvl 1k and cant remember the fartherst ive taken it

[steep acorn]

Ok so how do I do the enervate bug

Atp I think I just abuse that whilst rebuilding my jade with red shards instead of topaz

[lean tendon]

You stack it while in exalted, you get off your exalted and go on again, and you get the bug

Also need to be not the host

And I think you need to get off and get on a couple times until you stack it to a ridiculous level

[craggy niche]

shit someone throw me a one forma titania that will survive eda

i've never done eda before but i think tonights the night

[pure pasture]

X-ray sniper goes brrrrrr

[tidal parrot]

this with whatever you want for the rest of the build

use whatever subsumes, entire idea is just to use shield gate mods to stay alive

[lean tendon]

Rolling guard kind of a dead mod

What's the debuffs anyways

For EDA rn

[craggy niche]

will this work?

thinking xata's blast

[tidal parrot]

reduced energy stuff, no gear, 3x status duration iirc

[lean tendon]

I have my builds in #1481756135089246278

[tidal parrot]

energy drain when near enemies and 75% reduced max energy

forget what the mission modifiers are but none of them were notable from what i recall considering i spent most of eta falling asleep

[lean tendon]

Is Titania the only choice?

The energy drain when enemies are nearby doesn't really hurt her but the 75% really is

Nevermind the energy drain also hurts since you need to go near the drops for orbs

[tidal parrot]

yea, if it was addative with max energy mods it wouldnt be that bad but since it modifies the final amount its awful

[lean tendon]

At that point I would just play Titania as a weapon platform lmao

[tidal parrot]

i just dont care about the last reward and auto lock dante

[lean tendon]

Oh no gear as well no archgun abuse

My EDA has Hildryn so I cleared this week easily

[tidal parrot]

build i use has like 300 energy or smthn even after reduced max energy

dont know how or why but idc

tbh once you start just building out random "meta" and mediocre weapons archamedias is kinda easy

[lean tendon]

Two died and me and another Hildryn killed the final phase of the boss

[tidal parrot]

i only died cuz i was falling asleep and running into walls while holding down W key💀

[lean tendon]

Hildryn shooting red crits every shot is balanced

[craggy niche]

~ish

my close enough throw together lol

[lean tendon]

Looks good

[craggy niche]

WELP time to get annihilated

using her 2 i should be stacking a reeeedonkulous amount of dr combined with evasion so here goes nothing lol

[tidal parrot]

tbh eda isnt that rough this week, worst part is probably just mirror defence as usual since it tends to be the one gamemode in eta where you can lose through something other than like everyone dying prty much

[craggy niche]

is there anything else i should know before getting completely rolled here?

oh how long does this take

[celest tendon]

It takes 30 min or less depends on what do you get in weekly runs.

[tidal parrot]

10 min survival, 2 rounds of mirror defence normal assassination + all modifiers

also theres elite deep archamedia which adds another modifier to each mission and roughly doubles enemy level

iirc its a little more than double but about there

[craggy niche]

i feel like i'm being tooo nervous lol

[lean tendon]

Should be around 30 mins unless your team sux

[tidal parrot]

just run it, youll either do just fine or get kinda a mid team and get your stuff kicked in

[craggy niche]

do i just wait until a team joins now

[lean tendon]

Pray you get a Dante or Hildryn in your party and it's ez win

[tidal parrot]

yea i would

give it like a min or 2

[lean tendon]

Now that I think about it, I have both Dante and Hildryn in my warframe choices

[craggy niche]

with 170 energy i should be fine that's why i leaned into effeciency lol

[lean tendon]

Free EDA week

[craggy niche]

guess we gon find out

[tidal parrot]

i just dont care about vosfor or the extra peely pix for for both archamedias i just get a free pick of not doing something if i want

super nice tbh

[lean tendon]

The peely pix helps but yeah you can skip the last reward on EDA imo

[summer moon]

adaptation?
aren't u going to get killed?

[lean tendon]

9 Peely Pix that's almost 2 rare arcanes

[craggy niche]

dr can work up to a certain level if you stack it well enough

[tidal parrot]

tbh only arcane i care about is hot shot, alrdy have everything else maxed and i buy vosfor with standing

[craggy niche]

plus she got her innate evade and dust evasion stacking into it as well so we'll see

[lean tendon]

It doesn't matter if you max them out, you buy them to sell.

[tidal parrot]

only one worth selling really is like hotshot imop

[lean tendon]

Hotshot is like 500p and the other rare arcane is like 200p or something

[summer moon]

i still doubt that you can survive an elite one
but if u can it is ok xD

[craggy niche]

it just started with no team

[lean tendon]

Would rather have a passive gating setup

[tidal parrot]

arcane universal fallout is ~190-200 which isnt to bad, max escapist is like 45-30

[unkempt rivet]

What should I build Oraxia for?

[tidal parrot]

umbral set + 2 armour shards for persistence healthtanking

[lean tendon]

That's what I'm saying. 9 peely pix is almost two arcanes and you can spam buy Hotshot and Universal Fallout for ez plat.

700 plat every 21 days is great passive income

Less if you want to sell it faster

[tidal parrot]

tbh idc enough for fallouts even though i should but with hotshot (which i do buy every week) you can not uncommenly buy them at a net profit of around 90 if you buy r0 and sell r5

[lean tendon]

Abusing Kuva Sobek + Acid Shells

[tidal parrot]

which atp is just a matter of how many trades and credits do you have

[unkempt rivet]

Guys I meant like…
Strength duration? Range duration?
Strength range?

[tidal parrot]

yes

[unkempt rivet]

…this isn’t helping

[tidal parrot]

all of the above

[lean tendon]

I'm not saying buy R0 and sell R5 though

I'm just saying to buy them weekly using Peely Pix which is why I would rather skip EDA last reward but always get ETA last reward

[novel bear]

Weeks

[tidal parrot]

also iirc kaya store doesnt reset every day but every week no?

[lean tendon]

Oh yeah my bad it's weeks

[novel bear]

If it was daily they wouldn’t be nearly so expensive

[lean tendon]

No I just put it wrong it's definitely weeks

[tidal parrot]

also i alrdy get a net profit of 8 peely chips a week cuz you get a peely pak which is a free 5 peely chips on top of the 6 i get from running eta

[lean tendon]

• the ones you get from gambling and other ETA rewards

[tidal parrot]

mb you get 6 and 9 i thought it was 3 and 6 idk why

[lean tendon]

Could have been 17 which makes you guaranteed to buy the important arcanes every week

Or at the very least hotshot

[tidal parrot]

? important ones cost a whole 10 total combined, you get 6 + 5 = 11 i can buy the important ones every week and still ket a free peely chip

[lean tendon]

I used your initial post of 8

Then you corrected yourself

15 chips per week according to wiki

[tidal parrot]

yea cuz max gives you 6 and 9 (plus a peely pak which if you have all peely pix maxed out is another 5 peely chips)

[lean tendon]

I'm just gonna count 15 since not all will have maxed out peely pix

So technically 15, 6 if you can't do last reward

[tidal parrot]

fs, but im talking primarily about my case specifically at least for that as it is the case for me

once you max out you can skip last reward for eta is basically what im saying

[lean tendon]

If it's you sure I guess

I would still take the reward for vosfor and gamble

If I were in your situation

[tidal parrot]

thats what syndicates are for :D

[lean tendon]

But you can also get more

Which is better for gambling

More vosfor the better

[tidal parrot]

i mean fair but i care more about the shards and omni forma than the extra pull tbh

[craggy niche]

yo this dummy keeps slaughtering everything outside the circle lol i hate pubbys so much

[craggy niche]

yoooooo

this pixia build with xata's is literally insane lmao

[night laurel]

is AX-52 worth putting effort and love and care in if you dont have biotic rounds?

[tidal parrot]

its a funny bullet hose regardless of biotic rounds but tbh i never found it doing crazy amounts of damage even with biotic rounds on its own which is probably somewhere between a skill issue and not using a frame to buff it to narnia and back

its def not bad but not something thats super crazy imop

[lean tendon]

Ofc since even level cap enemies don't take 3 seconds to kill

[coral crest]

Its kind of a 0-100 case

It's an ok assault rifle without biotic rounds

With them its extremely strong

[scarlet forum]

whats the dethcube mod that gives energy

[night laurel]

dang........

[tidal parrot]

energy generator

[scarlet forum]

where do i get that

[tidal parrot]

simaris

[scarlet forum]

are you kidding me

[tidal parrot]

nope

[night laurel]

75k standing

alternative is just synth decons + equilibrium

[tidal parrot]

or buy it from someone and use all 3

[lean tendon]

From ak47 to anti aircraft/tank gun

Biotic Rounds be carrying AX 52

[tidal parrot]

ok yea nvm i just took ts off from blast to just heat and went from unable to kill a dude to shredding

[night laurel]

what gun?

[tidal parrot]

ax 52

[night laurel]

i see.........

looking for alternatives bc ive just been running reconifex everywhere

[tidal parrot]

just had it modded like a trogladite

[night laurel]

its a solid shitbox

[lean tendon]

Biotic Rounds need to come back fr

AX 52 is one of my favorite guns but no Biotic Rounds hurt

[tidal parrot]

just use chroma for a 980 damage increase and use corrosive blast without biotic rounds and it goes crazy

[lean tendon]

It would go even crazier with Biotic Rounds

[craggy niche]

holy can't wait to get that again lmao

free 200 p

wait EDAs are repeatable?

[lean tendon]

150% viral and magnetic damage and status chance

[night laurel]

whats biotic rounds from anyway

[craggy niche]

do i get all the rewards again or are those done for the week

[lean tendon]

Nightwave

[tidal parrot]

idk i tried blast and it basically couldnt kill anything to start out with unless im missing something obvious

[tidal parrot]

yes and they dont take more netracell pulses

[night laurel]

darn

[craggy niche]

so i can just keep grinding archon shards to my hearts content?

[tidal parrot]

no, rewards are once a week

[craggy niche]

ahhhh fugg

that's fine. i got a violet shard from this run

{not literally i got a red and a blue}

[lean tendon]

Rewards are one time claim per week, you can just repeat it if you skipped a reward or if you want to help someone or if you just want to play it again

[craggy niche]

oh but i got ETA i can do too now right?

does that also give shards?

[lean tendon]

If you perfect clear it once then you unlock ETA

Yeah more stuff can even get built omni forma

[tidal parrot]

yea both give shards tho eta gives purple/green/orange iirc

[craggy niche]

so use my 4 pulses to get eda and eta done and just run one netracell and call her a week

is that kinda the meta?

[tidal parrot]

yup

[craggy niche]

then shiny treasures and archon hunt

[tidal parrot]

but tbh sometimes i skip netracell cuz i just dont feel like doing it

[craggy niche]

is there any other sources of shards or is that shard maxxing in a nut shell

[tidal parrot]

one from bird 3

[craggy niche]

yupp i mentioned shinys

[tidal parrot]

dont think so, just eta/eda, netra cell, bird 3, and archon hunts i belive

[craggy niche]

so Shiny, one netracell, archon, TA and DA, and that's all the shards you get?

[lean tendon]

ETA, EDA, 1999 calendar, Netracells, Archon Hunt, Bird 3, Warframe streams, events

[craggy niche]

ohhh 99 calender forgot about that shiz

[tidal parrot]

true forgot about calander tbh

[craggy niche]

shards are the bane of my existence

[tidal parrot]

i think technically decendia as well but i think they might have also done shards for like the first one or 2 and not again

[craggy niche]

wtf is decendia? lmao

is this new shit?

[tidal parrot]

yea

not 100% sure on how common shards are from it since i think its only been around for like what? a month or 2 now with only so many rotations?

[coral crest]

They'll probably put it in some operation one day

[tidal parrot]

also havent bothered to pull up its drop tables to actually see just know that there was shards in it at one point

[coral crest]

One day...

[craggy niche]

now to go use citrine to farm citrine again

i can smell the disparity now when they see that crystal beamin shit

[coral crest]

Another weekly mode clear

With normal and sp variants

[craggy niche]

jesus warframe becoming a ft job lmao

[coral crest]

More random and about as fast as an EDA run

But your own gear

[craggy niche]

i gotta make a list of shit to do every week

[coral crest]

And tankier enemies

And cool music...

[night laurel]

dog days please carry biotic rounds for no reason idc nakak can go rob a random tenno for it

[craggy niche]

my lil' citrine so far lol

[coral crest]

Putting AK in Nakak

If Biotic Rounds returns it'll probably return alongside Leaded Gas

[night laurel]

YES

[coral crest]

Since they came together

Kinda

[night laurel]

i trust NakAK to hold a miscellaneous tenno at gunpoint for biotic rounds 🙏

[tidal parrot]

i will drop a sun on the vendors if they try to touch any of my mods 🙏

[coral crest]

Nakak found dead in Hydron

[craggy niche]

what should i put on citrine's 4 for funsies

she doesn't really need a damage mod albeit roar owuld make her crystal go even harder

bish makes co mods go apesss

[scarlet forum]

anyone have a verglas prime build

and a dethcube

[midnight horizon]

XDDD

He was trynna get home!!!

[scarlet forum]

I guess not 🥀

[scarlet forum]

Serration?

[midnight horizon]

No Galv mods? That's OK?

[fierce lark]

galv mods don't work on companions unless you stack them with your own weapon

[tidal parrot]

galv mods only work if you have them on your primary

[fierce lark]

if you're using a rifle with galvanized apt + chamber and you're getting kills with it, you can put those on verglas instead

you can also perma swap in galv chamber, it's only 10% less ms at base and if you ever happen to be using a rifle you can benefit from the increased 120%

[midnight horizon]

Ahhhh so in short it doesn't really required

[tidal parrot]

what about rifle elementalist instead of vigilante armamaents?

[scarlet forum]

I don't have vigilant armaments

🥀 🥀

[fierce lark]

im under the impression elementalist mods either don't work for or can't be equipped on companions, since no build i can find has them equipped

[scarlet forum]

Or heavy caliber

It can be

🥀

[tidal parrot]

they atleast can be put on ik that

[scarlet forum]

I'll do that one

[craggy niche]

With ele I dont think youre going for damage on your follower

[fierce lark]

considering verglas is almost always run with fired up, there's a lot of heat weighting and very high status chance, it's a perfect elementalist weapon

so idk why 0 builds have ele slotted

[tidal parrot]

its viral heat verglas contagious bond stuff aka imagine if you shoved saryn into a sentinel and told it to nuke stuff with viral and heat

[scarlet forum]

So uh

Do we have a deth cube build as well

[fierce lark]

i would strongly suggest testing to see if elementalist is boosting status damage before you use it

[tidal parrot]

i can check

[scarlet forum]

Uhgg I have to re forma this shit

[tidal parrot]

this is what i personaly use but sacrafice can easily be swaped with smthn else

[fierce lark]

it's just every sentinel but you replace cordon/negate/whatever other precept with energy generator

if you wanted to slot contagious bond it would have to be over PAI

[tidal parrot]

you can take off manifold bond for dethcube

[scarlet forum]

What's the difference between assalt mode and dethcubs version

[tidal parrot]

doesnt affect energy generator

[fierce lark]

you could, manifold is also revive time but it's fairly minor

[tidal parrot]

its specific one is vaporize which has a 10second cd and doesnt apply as many stacks of viral or heat as normal assult

[scarlet forum]

Strange how that's not mentioned

[tidal parrot]

its just not good vs assult

[fierce lark]

if you're using an actual dps weapon like verglas, assault mode is mandatory

else your companion doesn't actually shoot anything with its weapon

[scarlet forum]

Ok do I need manifold or nah

[fierce lark]

the duplex clones do, but you'd still rather your actual companion doing things as well

[tidal parrot]

i wana say it looks like rifle elementalist does work on sentinel weapons

[low summit]

Which riven should i pick?

[fierce lark]

@latent adder can you explain why no build including yours runs elementalist on verglas?

[fierce lark]

left

sd is useless

[latent adder]

The majority of the dmg isnt actually status and its not necessary for contagious bond afaik

[steel swift]

can someone help me with a zephyr build and maybe an atlas build>

[low summit]

Thanks

[steel swift]

maybe nyx too actually

[scarlet forum]

God this is confusing for me

[fierce lark]

even with 190% heat and 30+ status procs per second it's not doing enough heat status to justify ele?

[latent adder]

Yeah, just check calcs

Usually another mod is just better

[fierce lark]

being worse than vigilante armaments is wild to me but ight

[latent adder]

Vigi is cuz ms double dips final

But i haven't checked recent calcs

[fierce lark]

🤔

yeah i suppose verglas is a beam isn't it

[latent adder]

Maybe need to recheck

[tidal parrot]

refresh my knowledge please, how does ms double dip on beams again?

[scarlet forum]

I might just use multi shot instead of vigilant armaments

[abstract axle]

Zephyr has two builds: the easiest (and imo better) is building around her target fixation augment. I'm not in game, but the build is simple, maximize your range without letting your strength get negative. If you have helminth, inject bright bonnet. If you don't, build efficiency.

[fierce lark]

iirc it goes like this

beams condense damage into 1 instance, so status chance is multiplied by the multishot directly to compensate

but because status dmg is based on the damage of the shot that triggered it, it gets the full multishot worth of base dmg on top of the additional chances to proc

[low summit]

Can i ask what would be the value of that riven if i sell it for P?

[fierce lark]

so multishot effectively double dips on status procs from beam weapons

[steel swift]

okay bet lemme put smth together

[fierce lark]

i have no clue but probably not much more than trash price, it's not a great roll

it's a good roll, but "good" rolls aren't usually sellable for more than reroll price

and torid has like 1.3 dispo so every roll with beneficial stats is a good roll

[abstract axle]

I'm a tough grader, but since base torid rivens are so expensive, rolls have to be very good to move. Maybe a 20p premium over the trash roll price?

[night laurel]

makes me wonder if multishot on beam amps is also similarly good

since we have ms for amps now

[fierce lark]

i would venture yes

i doubt it's worth running the heat amp arcane for it when 547 already clears everything, but it's a funny option

[abstract axle]

Keep in mind if you aren't using the arcanes that swap it, the only status inflicted by amps is void, which doesn't benefit from extra stacks

[fierce lark]

i suppose if you cared to maintain it, magus melt is 210% heat damage for an operator arcane

[night laurel]

magus melt nvm heat doesnt improve with more stacks

[fierce lark]

and other than emergence renewed, operator arcanes aren't exactly super high powered

[tidal parrot]

i could be wrong but just off of letting the verglas shoot (i made cold into magnetic because viral would just cause the enemies to die to quickly) and i think i on average saw higher numbers with elementalist instead of vigilante armaments

was using a build like this so that stuff wouldnt instantly die to quickly, might need further testing but as far as the heat stacks it seemed to do more from elementalist

[abstract axle]

Yes heat does, the damage stacks

[night laurel]

OH yeah, ty

[tidal parrot]

was shooting into corrupted heavy gunners as well

[fierce lark]

well elementalist is obviously gonna do more if they live longer, heat stacks compound on top of each other

the reason for elementalist not to be better would be things not living long enough

to benefit from the multiplicative status dmg

[tidal parrot]

i was letting it just get 1 full mag dump and looking at the damage from the heat stacks from that

[fierce lark]

yeah but that's not giving you an accurate representation of what it's going to do in mission

if you force things to live longer, you're forcing elementalist to perform better than it otherwise would

[tidal parrot]

so should i look to see ttk instead of damage from 1 full mag?

[fierce lark]

throw on a full build, see how fast it dies with vigi arms, see how fast it dies with elementalist

[steel swift]

whats the other build

[abstract axle]

Tornado. That's too complicated to get into here, I'd suggest watching a video or two. Tornado interactions are cursed.

Target fixation is easy and hits the damage cap

[steel swift]

can i do a sort of hybrid? i wanna headbutt the ground like a sped kid but 9 tornadoes doesnt sound bad easier

eitehr*

either*****

[abstract axle]

You could, but there is absolutely no reason. The tornados barely expand the one since it is already aoe, and the energy cost is prohibitive. Plus, you don't have a helminth slot otherwise

[solid delta]

I’m curious, is -2.14b damage displayed higher than say -1b?

[steel swift]

ah alright

i dont want to hellminth that tbh grouping with the headbutt sounds pretty good no>

[abstract axle]

You already have the two to group for one, which is better and cheaper since you want to keep corpses piled

[abstract axle]

I'm not sure what you are asking here. You the only negative number you should ever see is-2.14b, since it's an overflow

[tidal parrot]

did the full build for both (the one i use that i posted) and tbh they both killed the enemy about as quickly as eachother, would you reccomend to use a tankier enemy or would that result in favouring elementalist?

[steel swift]

u right ok

what do i subsume?

[abstract axle]

Best subsume is bright bonnet

[abstract axle]

Energy is the only consideration

[solid delta]

It’s not -1b but

[fierce lark]

usually i do the max level non-eximus heavy gunner/corrupted heavy gunner

[steel swift]

doi need duration for it? got a pretty good looking build i think but i have literally 0 duration as a sacrifice

[solid delta]

I’m not sure if this is higher than -2.14b, cuz I saw -2.14b too

[solid delta]

I don’t have clips for that tho

[abstract axle]

Negative is bigger, but neither number will fail to one shot anything in the game it can affect

[tidal parrot]

yea i did the same (for me thats level 205), put it on sp and its about 2-3 seconds not 100% sure as i have to figure out how to get it to pull up miliseconds atp for best accuracy and idk how to do that and am not willing to do it rn atleast (will probably spend more time figuring it out later tho)

[abstract axle]

Hurts the 3 which makes you projectile immune for the duration