builds-discussion

[eternal prism]

He might have corrupted mods, but does he need them right now

[sterile wedge]

This is what I have

Reminder, I'm MR5

[lean tendon]

time to grind mods

[astral tinsel]

Right, cast speed

[eternal prism]

time to be energy god

[lean tendon]

honestly the easiest part is the Archon mods since iirc Dante mostly uses Archon mods but I might be wrong

[astral tinsel]

You'll want to put Natural Talent in there somewhere

[lean tendon]

nevermind he uses primed mods but archon mods is a decent alternative until you get the primed mods

[astral tinsel]

He can give his squad archon stretch energy iirc

Through the Noctua summon buff

[lean tendon]

oh wait Noctua can activate Archon mods

so I am not tripping I really did saw a build with 3 Archon mods on it

but idk where and when I saw it

[eternal prism]

as another exalted weapons

[astral tinsel]

But they're tied to primary elements

So you're not gonna make use of more than one

[lean tendon]

yeah its prob just activating one and the rest is just an alternative for primed mods

I mean tbf same stats as primed but +2 capacity and unique passive

or maybe companion procs the other one

[velvet pulsar]

Old UI

[velvet pulsar]

Encumber noctua modded for cold can proc all archon mods except archon intensify. However because its encumber procs Arcane Impetus, you won't need Archon Intensify.

[weak jasper]

But why would you have base frames when the primes exist

[lean tendon]

encumber makes sense

[velvet pulsar]

Also Archon Flow can proc Energy Conversion.

It spawns an energy orb of 50 energy above your head instead of on the location where enemy died.

[midnight horizon]

hey AST

this is the result

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147966476079345674.gif?size=48&name=fishierotate&quality=lossless

[brisk wing]

Does something like Khora's whipclaw proc and benefit from melee exposure if the arcane is on the melee weapon instead of the whipclaw?

[midnight horizon]

replace the one red tau into dura

[eternal prism]

yes no

[brisk wing]

So it procs it but doesnt benefit oki

[eternal prism]

Well, khora gets corrosive status in the whip, if that's what you're asking. I may have translated the last part incorrectly.
but u need put arcane in whip

[brisk wing]

Ah i see

[eternal prism]

influence should be better if u not go farm

[final wasp]

how do you get molt augment?

[brisk wing]

I mean the build i have works fine for farming and SP for now but i h avent gotten far in SP

[midnight horizon]

uhh its in Zariman, void angels

but mine is i got my molt augment as a christmas gift

[hot laurel]

cycle or keep ??

[weak jasper]

Additive damage for 18 mod load

[hot laurel]

9 if you forma 😭

[weak jasper]

Still ass

[hot laurel]

agreed

[weak jasper]

Do you want to like dump crit on laetum

[hot laurel]

kinda

want it usable

[green gyro]

your only cc source should be enervate

[tiny shoal]

am i modding it right?

[eternal prism]

mmmmm.... 50/50 not good not bad

u should get - puncture damage (if im not mistake he can)

[eternal prism]

looks fine. u can use 90% electro damage

[tiny shoal]

will do, thank uu

[hot laurel]

so puncture is what i should go for ??

i guess cd and damage is alr??

[eternal prism]

punctur give u cc. u not need cc for crit laetum except enervate

[eternal prism]

cd/multi/elec/tox/fire rate
cuz galv co enought for damage u not need base damage in riven

but u can do corr by tox/elec in riven

and u need this corr

You can try to find cc in minus

I forgot that laetum doesn't have puncture

[dense belfry]

is the destrsa worth the while?
ive got this arcane here that increases crit damage every by .7x every 10% chance of puncture
it seems to be a good puncture weapon but ive not entirely a clue since im still needing to craft and use it

[night laurel]

rapiers are kind of forgotten nothingburgers but im sure someone has a good build?

[dense belfry]

if not, whats a good puncture weapon thatll make that arcane not collect dust

[night laurel]

anku ive heard

[opal frost]

energy nexus is such a goated mod

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162254708858167407/1368265067942121694/41154030c1f7dc46.gif

[opal frost]

do you have prime parts 🥹

[eternal prism]

i have a lot

[gaunt wasp]

Primed Flow + Energy Nexus, how bout that

[eternal prism]

💀

[gaunt wasp]

What’s wrong with that?

[eternal prism]

Nexus isn't used with builds that require a lot of energy. If you don't need a lot of energy, you don't want flow

[opal frost]

ill give u a okina riven if u can give me some prime parts i need

[eternal prism]

im not use okina cuz for that i have magistar

[opal frost]

💔

[eternal prism]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/553908205097320448/1168317795486928976/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

[novel grove]

For my first coda weapon, do you guys think I should get the Mire or wait for the Bassocyst to rotate into the shop? I only have enough heartcells rn for one weapon

[summer moon]

u can kill another technocyte until next rotation. I don't see a problem

[novel grove]

Just realised I’m 2MR below being able to get them in general so I can farm my heart away lol

[woven drift]

What's the best companion for vauban prime

[eternal prism]

wyrm all time be best comp

[spark thorn]

Did I do a passable job?

[midnight horizon]

Bro hahahaha

[eternal prism]

show riven

[eternal prism]

.

[spark thorn]

I just closed the game i can tomorrow

[eternal prism]

warframe comp? atleast say what stats

[spark thorn]

Uh i think its ms cd with a -to infested iir

[eternal prism]

give me a sec

[midnight horizon]

Energy Nexus is a bit useless when you have the ability to just fill your energy in an instant

[spark thorn]

Ill log back in gimme a sec

[midnight horizon]

Like a lot of frames, just a bit of equilibrium, synth Deconstruction, and some other way

You'll be able to get energy in an instant

I actually dont see the use of Energy Nexus hahaha

[fervent nova]

Should I reroll?

[versed harbor]

wouldnt even roll on this weapon lowkey

[fervent nova]

I really want to keep the riven

[versed harbor]

right is better here but not great

[fervent nova]

What about the left?

Don't know if the High Voltage mod is worthy of spending 50 plat

[sonic folio]

It's not

[fervent nova]

Okay, what should I build on Gotva then?

CC?

[dense belfry]

whats its base stats? i could give a solid guess as a new modder

[sonic folio]

Idk i just levelled to 30 then deleted it

Just a another mr fodder

[severe bough]

Standard Viral heat

[dense belfry]

you can hover over the gun while in the riven

[severe bough]

If u wanna use it

[craggy niche]

Gotva is status to proc its passive

[spark thorn]

Ideally you want -puncture

[brittle sleet]

Gotva is built like a fairly standard mixed rifle. Its gimmick is that triggering status procs makes it pop off red crits, but you still want more of the normal hits to crit, so you build for both.

It is a very good standard rifle though, especially if you don't care for incarnons

[fervent nova]

I'm new to SP (just hit MR14) and I don't have the SP Circuit unlocked yet, but I also just love the Gotva and I really want to make it work.

[sonic folio]

John rifle ™️

[fervent nova]

I really liked it on Cyte

[brittle sleet]

Also, on this note, High Voltage is farmable all the time from Eris so it definitely shouldn't be 50p

[spark thorn]

-puncture allows the gotva to proc stautses that actually matter

Thats why it is good to fish for

[brittle sleet]

You'd take any negative that doesn't mess up the rest of what you're doing, really, though. -zoom is still gonna be beautiful on Gotva like any other gun

[fervent nova]

The cheapest price is literally 60p on WFM... 🫠

[fervent nova]

What do you mean by staus that matters?

[sonic folio]

It's cuz nobody bothering to grind it ngl

[brittle sleet]

I'd farm instead but see what your patience is for running Hive Sabotage on Eris and decide what your plat is worth for yourself

[severe bough]

Better statues that can proc like heat

[sonic folio]

I'd rather grind voltaic strike or bite or something

[spark thorn]

Certain status effects dont really do much. For example puncture. Compared to both slash and impact it is completely useless

[brittle sleet]

Well Voltaic Strike isn't farmable, it's Baro-exclusive

For Gotva's sake you're gonna be getting more DPS off of puncture procs than impact procs though

[fervent nova]

What's a good status that goes along with heat? Is Heat + Viral good?

[brittle sleet]

Not to mention GalvApt bonus from proc variety

Yes Heat + Viral is the holy grail

[severe bough]

Viral heat/elc is the most standard

[craggy niche]

Just go all status and forget crit. I use gotva and that shit is critting all the time with 0 crit investment

[fervent nova]

It does proc status on my end but the dmg is abysmal, it does about 100 to 1K dmg on SP. 🫠

[sonic folio]

I want them to change this so bad

[severe bough]

Ur propbably dont have stacks build up

[brittle sleet]

The gun does feel satisfying without crit investment but DPS calcs do favor crit building (it's not like there's much opportunity cost lost by slapping on one crit chance mod)

[craggy niche]

I personally go corrosive and mag and use tazicor to prime viral

[fervent nova]

What do you mean?

[spark thorn]

Ideally youd be lowering puncture so the status calculation would prioritize you viral, corrosive, etc instead of puncture. As it is weighted by the value that the weapon has regardless of what statuses you build. You will predominantly proc puncture without lowering it. And frankly puncture doesnt do enough to justify top priority in my statuses.

[severe bough]

Galv shot/galv chamber and your arcane require kills to be actived
stackless = u got nothing

and also on most weapons that arent the recent op incarnons u dont do any dmg

[fervent nova]

...So it's because my dmg is bad and doesn't kill anything it doesn't stack status?

[craggy niche]

That last bit is simply untrue lol. Not even alot of the market blueprints dont do any damage

[fervent nova]

Sorry, I'm confused

[spark thorn]

Heat + viral/corrosive is the general application usually if you can apply both even better

[fervent nova]

I was going for corr + heat, but it didn't do any dmg on SP.

[craggy niche]

You want viral somewhere

[severe bough]

Yea thats basically what i said

[craggy niche]

Whether it be nourish or s follower

[severe bough]

U need external viral then

[spark thorn]

I tend to build corrosive + heat and use Nourish on a subsume for viral

[craggy niche]

Tazicor exists and is amazing

[severe bough]

Fr

[spark thorn]

If not nourish

Panzer vulpaphyla is pretty accessible

[fervent nova]

Panzer Vulpaphyla can be found in Deimos right?

[craggy niche]

Tazi is the closest youre gonna get from having viral on the build itself

[spark thorn]

Correct

[severe bough]

Passive priming via arc coil diriga or coolent leak is also a option

[fervent nova]

What's that?

[craggy niche]

A farmable gun from Venus for followers

Just rep purchase

[fervent nova]

I have coolant leak, but what do I do with it? How does it apply viral?

[spark thorn]

Imo massively underrated gem gun

EFV5-Jupiter

[fervent nova]

Oh I have the parts to build that, should I build it?

[spark thorn]

I love it

[lavish orbit]

When you fight multiple type enemies and not only armored ones, viral is better, since it multiply your damage done on health

[severe bough]

If u pair it with manifold bond your weapon companions statues get transfered into the ability

[craggy niche]

The tazi? Or the epv

[spark thorn]

Ill show you my build for it too in case you do.

[fervent nova]

EFV5-Jupiter

I don't have the Tazicor, where can you get it?

[craggy niche]

Venus

[fervent nova]

Fortuna?

[near crater]

Would it be useful to build Uriel for Health tanking? Right now I have archon vitality and augur accord for health and shield each

[severe bough]

Not really he got invul and shield gate in his 2

[craggy niche]

Augur accord is just bad boreal

[near crater]

Shield for energy

[severe bough]

U only use archon vitality for caster if u want to play with his 4 tho he is alr unkillable if u pay enough attention

[near crater]

I have Message, reach and accord right now

[near crater]

I do want to focus on a caster build

[craggy niche]

You only need one

[rocky mason]

If you press 2 you get shields already based on your health

So not that much need for the augur set

[severe bough]

Yea then u use archon vit tho i prefer it r0 because u only care about the feature not the health

[spark thorn]

Here's mine riven is optional but as I said I ADORE this gun.

[near crater]

Damn looks like I gotta build from the ground up

[eternal prism]

should be fine

[near crater]

But Molt augmented and arcane camisado good?

[lavish orbit]

Physical damage isn't great though

[fervent nova]

Thank you!

[severe bough]

Use concentration instead of camisado

Or smth else for QoL

His summons are ass

[eternal prism]

Sorry for the long reply🐟

[lavish orbit]

Let's agree to disagree, it still can do well in SP, camisado/concentration are anti-synergistic though so it's two ways to build Uriel

[near crater]

I gotta test this

[severe bough]

Yea but his summons do little not nothing if u compare it to calis summons

Execpt

Buffing u

[lavish orbit]

If u compare it sevagoth is just uriel but better, comparing has no sense in warframe.

[vagrant berry]

Is this one good? Or should I keep rolling to try for one with 3 positives? And is multishot essential on this gun? (It’s damage and CC)

[near crater]

Catenach and Gulphagor max Camisado out pretty quickly. It's free +60% ability strength

Paired with Molt Augmented and I have +120 on longer missions (if Camisado maxed)

[severe bough]

Roll

[brittle sleet]

Good because it can replace a standard mod, not great because it could be much better stats with a negative and third positive. Multishot isn't at all essential on the Burston and Acuity builds are common on it, actually higher DPS than standard builds

This is because the AoE on the incarnon shots don't factor in multishot anyway

[vagrant berry]

Oh really? then what’s the god roll for the Incarnon version?

[near crater]

On top of all this: archon Intensify's Strength boost that triggers on healing the minions

[midnight horizon]

What frame?

[lavish orbit]

Uriel

[near crater]

Uriel

[lavish orbit]

Talking about his minions

[midnight horizon]

Ah

Yeah Uriel is Busted af XDDD

[craggy niche]

Multishot procs the incarnon form better is worth mentioning

[midnight horizon]

But for me Uriel is boring so after a few days of using him, I just subsume him

[proven spindle]

any titania build recommendation?

[severe bough]

Folie gonna be even more insane

[rocky mason]

For what point in the game?

[midnight horizon]

I'm sure, but I'm excited to the subsume ability she will havr

Tbh I might stay longer with Follie just bc.... Ink

[lone haven]

hi, I'm a returning player, haven't played much since the new war. I'm legendary rank 1, but it seems there was some kind of overhaul of companions and mine are all useless. Not sure what's meta right now, if people are still doing steel path or some other things, but I need to update one my companions and I'm not sure which one. Is panzer or smeeta still good? Any other companions are worth using at the end game? Do they enable frames more dmg or boost them in any way or actually deal the dmg themselves? Overframe seems to be outdates as well in that aspect

[severe bough]

Its her 3 im assuming

The one were she places herself dow

In like slime

[midnight horizon]

Yeah....

But what is it's 2

[severe bough]

If that was the 3

[proven spindle]

steel path and helmith not sure if they are count as the same

[rocky mason]

Companions are mostly used for priming so you get your gunCO up at all times, some can help you stay alive and some others just straight up kill entire rooms themselvez

[rocky mason]

Perfect, just use Xaku's subsume, Xata's Whisper with blast on your dex pixia

You can kill everything with that, even on steel path

[severe bough]

Didnt write this but its a short overview

Its like not even Long

17 days or so

[lone haven]

I guess dmg wise the ones that prime are the most useful. Which companion would you consider the best at it at the moment? I will look up the builds myself, just need someone to point the direction for me

[brittle sleet]

For specifically incarnon it's the usual good rolls but without multishot in the mix, so cc/cd/fr/dmg or the elements that you're looking to have on it, with its dispo Critical Delay, Vital Sense, and Serration are all nice to replace

[midnight horizon]

Yeah I know her two is just Minecraft creative inventory mode XDDDD

I REALLY want that as a subsume XDDD

[severe bough]

Did the showed some new arcanes ? I wonder if we get smth new beside what the alr showed us

[proven spindle]

I will get xaku so where do I put that ability

[severe bough]

I didnt really looked the dev stream so concentrated tho as i heard u can draw yourself like pictures and whatever

[rocky mason]

3 or 2, whichever you use less

I put mine on the 3

[proven spindle]

ok thanks for the help

[rocky mason]

Hounds that you get from sisters of parvos are the best

[brittle sleet]

Diriga and Nautilus are the most useful sentinels for priming and killing, Dethcube's energy generation niche is invalidated by Duplex Bond, most beast companions are killers now with mild priming, and yeah hounds if spec'd into well are the absolute best primers

[lavish orbit]

You can draw pics that is used has icons for her 2nd, making her the ability to create random object of the game, ||like survival pod||

[lone haven]

thank you

hound it is then

[severe bough]

Skribbel.io

2.0 Warframe

[lavish orbit]

Lmao yes

[hot laurel]

best stat for the coda mire would be toxin right ?

[eternal prism]

3

[eternal prism]

(Im too lazy to change aura, sorry)

[severe bough]

U mean progi?

[proven spindle]

thanks

[rocky mason]

The unique effect scales off of your modded toxin so yeah

[vestal orbit]

Wukong Build plsz

[rocky mason]

Unless you wanna save space for gas or viral, then put the heat or cold progenitor and primed fever strike on the build

[spark thorn]

This is fun

I have a frame that caps overcharge so i just shotgun blast arrows

[timid violet]

Tips?

[copper tree]

for braton incarnon do u guys recommend braton prime or braton vandal

[pallid quiver]

mk1

[grim quartz]

Is semi auto better then the full auto on the fulmin

[analog stirrup]

For the majority of situations, yes.

[zenith mauve]

how's this mesa build? i feel like my survivability is trash

[grim quartz]

Alright what is a situation where I would use full auto like should I invest in trying to build into that or should I focus on semi auto?

[analog stirrup]

Drop blind rage and precision intensify, dont need more than +18% power, subsume a spamable ability to make use of cata shields if you dont want to use the shield augment.

[analog stirrup]

Always build for semi, auto is only really usefull in dealing with nulifier bubbles and some bosses.

[zenith mauve]

what can i put in the place of those 2 mods?

[grim quartz]

Alright thank you

[analog stirrup]

Would go shield regen

[late hemlock]

I have to imagine you can use arcanes at that point?

[eternal prism]

some above

[timid violet]

Some above what

[eternal prism]

scroll up

[grim quartz]

Is the gammacor incarnon good i got a decent riven for it

[eternal prism]

some

[eternal prism]

all incarnon forms good

[eternal prism]

abuse catal shields

[grim quartz]

Alright

[eternal prism]

why not. if u kill whole map u cant die

[grim quartz]

Any things i can improve on my fulmin build besides level up the arcane im already working on that

[dusty dragon]

for the dread incarnon, is it just me, or does the projectile get wider with distance?

[analog stirrup]

multishot on last slot and you gucci

[grim quartz]

Alright thanks

[dusty dragon]

galvanized chamber

[grim quartz]

Okay

[eternal prism]

and drope scope... atleast

useless cc mod

[grim quartz]

Should i replace scope with chamber

[eternal prism]

u can

[grim quartz]

Alright

[eternal prism]

https://warframe-damage.com/ u can test your build atleast here

for not waste forms

demolisher heavy gunner 9999 sp your enemy

At least decent dps is needed

[grim quartz]

Okay thank you

[lone haven]

which Hound combination is the best for priming, what do you need the most, hp armor or shields? And which weapon might be the best for the job? Batoten because of puncture that boosts crit chance and impact that reduces mercy threshold?

[dusty dragon]

manifold bond + synergized prospectus

[novel bear]

Shields is the only stat that really matters, just need to hit the reinforced bond threshold

[lone haven]

good to know, thank you

[wraith sinew]

hey guys, im looking to improve my lavos

i just got enough kahl missions for archon mods, so i can get 2 of those

also don't worry about the arcanes, its a work in progress

[grim quartz]

Any tips to improve my kuva bramma build

[summer crest]

are any of those rivens good?

[lone haven]

primer build with some QoL primed animal instict and primed pack leader instead of synth deconstruct (that might hurt) and momentous or vicious bond. What do you think?

[eternal prism]

I don't think you'll ever need riven on epitaph, but you can leave it

[quartz field]

i need a mirage build please

[summer crest]

I just unveiled those myself and got curious because those 2 are weapons that I have/use

[eternal prism]

if u have sure footed prime use it and replace fortitude to another str mod
1 arcane as u want

[severe bough]

Idk if the hound does generates OG by itself because his weapon is melee but if u dont play melee u can sure take smth else also replace contagions bond

[summer crest]

also this one is good?

[wraith sinew]

@eternal prism would fast deflection or augur reach (also have augur message) on gauss

actually now that im thinking about it the augur set bonus is recharging sheilds

nvm

[quartz field]

ok thanks

[eternal prism]

for immortal u nead atleast 1 mod cd shields

[eternal prism]

u not need augur mod pack on gauss for survivability
but you can use it for example for a range if you need it

[amber heron]

Question for mesa players. Would 25% increase to secondary crit chance work for her regulators?

[undone dust]

from the shards? yes

but topaz are better anyway since its a larger %, relies on kills but it's mesa so

[true talon]

hi does anyone have dante build?

[fierce lark]

anything that works on weapons will work on exalted weapons of the same type, regulators are a secondary

[amber heron]

Would heat status from the topaz stack past 50% with multiple shards or no?

[undone dust]

no they not!!

[fierce lark]

yes, they all add up

[undone dust]

5 topaz NOW

[amber heron]

Ok ty(⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

[undone dust]

hey sexy is it ceramic dagger that can have the most IC for outburst (riven included)

[novel bear]

Without crescendo, yes

But it needs primary kills

[fierce lark]

i don’t know of anything else that comes with 100 built in

it also happens to be in the class of melees that can self-prime finishers

[quiet laurel]

praedos can also cope with outburst

[novel bear]

Daggers also have a mod for initial combo that other melees don’t

[undone dust]

fragor prime!! fragor prime!!

[fierce lark]

im probably still just gonna run furax on mesa

[undone dust]

at least wraith has extra ic built in

[novel bear]

I’d definitely use the furax wraith before fragor prime

Less combo, but more fire rate is worth it

[undone dust]

dont fists have a decent finisher multi anyway?

[novel bear]

No

Not really

[undone dust]

man..

[novel bear]

Ground finishers are really good with fists, but everything else is on the lower end

[lone haven]

I though I sent a message, but it's not here?

[quiet laurel]

discord is dying

thats probably why

[lone haven]

I just cant post a screenshot, wth

[wraith sinew]

my gauss doesn't feel like hes doing enough sunder dmg, how do i fix that

[opaque wave]

how do i get exilus slot on my melee?

[lone haven]

alright, so without text it works. How about that without primed pack leader and contagious bond

[quiet laurel]

firstly we gotta slot aegis and fast deflection
then we subsume roar over his 2 and then either do heat spam or heat + cold either by sunder heat or a primer that applies heat

[lone haven]

and this weapon with the hound. What do you guys think?

[fierce lark]

weapon exilus adapter, either buy one for 20p or get them built/as blueprints from a number of things, the only consistent source being requiem relics

[velvet pulsar]

I just found out...

If you have energy orb effectiveness boost, picking up universal orbs from Universal Fallout also grants you same value of boosted health, even if you don't have any health orb effectiveness boost.

(so would also work vice versa)

[wraith sinew]

what are good primers besides lato icarnon?

[quiet laurel]

lato incarnon is NOT a primer 🎋

[novel bear]

Epitaph and cedo

[quiet laurel]

epitaph, bubonico, cedo, anything with high status and some AoE

[compact cypress]

my tenet arca plasmor could do with some tlc

[novel bear]

Those are general primers though, I don’t know if they’re the best for heat inherit

[fierce lark]

you've officially found a use for restorative bond

legend

[wraith sinew]

hm

i thought i saw that somehwere

[velvet pulsar]

I highly doubt if the energy will be boosted to the warframe.

Will check tomorrow.

[novel bear]

Restorative bond affects warframes though

[fierce lark]

well if both sides of the universal orb are buffed by both health and energy orb effectiveness, the +60 hp from restorative should increase the energy from uni orbs as well

[novel bear]

Percentage boost probably works different than flat boost though

If it does work, restorative bond becomes fantastic

[wraith sinew]

any archon mods good on lavos?

[fierce lark]

maybe, but if that's the case then a single +hp eff shard is like adding 150% equilibrium

[velvet pulsar]

Wiki says it adds after health orb effectiveness bonuses, so I think it's simply a +60 heal buff applied to both companion & frame.

But it'll get confirmation tomorrow.

[velvet pulsar]

All of them can work.

[mighty flare]

Only vitality and continuity

[velvet pulsar]

However, would u use it.

[velvet pulsar]

Archon Intensify bud...

[wraith sinew]

I using Lavos to get viral on my xoris

[mighty flare]

Lavos doesn’t really need strength

[novel bear]

Even for caster build?

[mighty flare]

Precision

[novel bear]

Fair

[velvet pulsar]

Fair

[wide verge]

147 or 177?

[velvet pulsar]

47

[wide verge]

alr ty

[wraith sinew]

If I’m using Lavos solely for valence formation, I don’t think I need archon mods

what's good this week?

[quiet laurel]

boar and agstrum

[wraith sinew]

Which ones better

[quiet laurel]

both have their interactions

cant really make a decision on whats better

[wraith sinew]

angtrum sounds fun

[spiral chasm]

personally a big angstrum fan

def shines better if ur using a bubble like mag or xatas

[wraith sinew]

Will it replace my kuva nukor tho

[spiral chasm]

its not a primer

but as dps i think it does do better than a nukor

[wraith sinew]

Huh really

[spiral chasm]

not sure myself tho

[wraith sinew]

Is there a better version or do I just get it off the market

[spiral chasm]

angstrum shreds and the bullets have multiplicative CC stack on arcanes

prisma is the best version

[wraith sinew]

Geez it’s 70 plat

Is it worth it to get the prisma

[spiral chasm]

def a lot better than normal angstrum

[eternal prism]

just wait when u can get it

nothing will happen if you don't do it now. I'm still waiting for the gorgon Prism lol

[spark thorn]

Look for a market listing thats a couple days old. Offer like 50 and see if they bite.

[eternal prism]

I accidentally missed it the last time it was there...

[spark thorn]

Im in the same boat waiting on the Bo incarnon

[eternal prism]

but in any case it should appear by the end of the month

[eternal prism]

im not wait incarnon. im wait gorgon prisma

i already have it

[spark thorn]

I believe Bo is next week so wont be long

[eternal prism]

i have good riven for bo if u need...🐟

[spark thorn]

I have one and could afford another

Not*

[thorn breach]

Which is better?

[eternal prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162254708858167407/1368265067942121694/41154030c1f7dc46.gif

[eternal prism]

2 but cold ruin

very ruin...

u not want use viral in burston

but if u gonna use it with armor strip skill then fine

[quiet laurel]

no viral on burston?

[eternal prism]

corr better

[quiet laurel]

what did I miss

[spark thorn]

Wouldnt burston make blast? I thought it did heat

[eternal prism]

You can get viral literally from anywhere.

[eternal prism]

not good idea

u can but for what

burston have good heat procs

[spark thorn]

Personally i refuse to build it

It trivializes a lot with how strong it is

[eternal prism]

u can use then...

[eternal prism]

it's only strong when used against solo targets. It's not very good for clearing maps

[spark thorn]

I also have a few solid primaries i just rather use tbh nothing against it. Its really good just not for me.

[eternal prism]

try crit phenmor

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1147966476079345674.gif?size=48&name=fishierotate&quality=lossless

[spark thorn]

Im taking a weapon building break for a few

I built 3 primaries yesterday

And 2 secondaries

[eternal prism]

It's time to get a bunch forms

[spark thorn]

So many forma eaten

[void bramble]

def the right one

[eternal prism]

i lost 7 forms for burston lol

[spark thorn]

All 3 of these were finished yesterday

At least for now

[eternal prism]

I spend a lot forms testing slightly different builds because they can perform differently in different conditions...

now i should build miter and boar and lato and skana

and a couple more inkarnons for this week

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-22093205

[spark thorn]

My boar has been doing really well if you need a build

[eternal prism]

I think you already asked about a build for it. I sent you a better one with your riven

[spark thorn]

Yeah but with stuff i dont have and cant afford unfortunately

I appreciate it tho

[eternal prism]

You can use cheaper options. It will just make hit less damaging.

like 90 electro/not prime cd

This will still be good provided that he clearly deals quickly with lvl cap enemies without buffs

and even without bane

[velvet pulsar]

I'm about to overthrow this

[eternal prism]

U not be energy god

Today i slam olympus demolishers
It really fun with 5 parkour shards lol

[velvet pulsar]

What if I'm getting 185 energy per orb pickup? (Without zenurik, without energize, without energy orb effectiveness shards, without nourish?)

[eternal prism]

It's just a meme about using nurish on everything with nexus+equilibrium+arcane charge+ energy aura...

You shouldn't do that🐟

[velvet pulsar]

Nah I did this:

https://youtu.be/SB8jZVLuBCs?si=kvLqYgpSYzs2vfEO

I'll make a new one tomorrow without nourish

[eternal prism]

uwuuwuuwu

[tough idol]

left or right what do u tguys thnik ?

[eternal prism]

2

Now u can do corr blast ez

If u want sell it definitely be worth something

[craggy niche]

This is hands down my comfiest character

[tough idol]

what do you think right one cost ?

[craggy niche]

She can boss, she can aoe, she has great survivability right up until like 6000 and shes easy fast and different than any other warframe

Jade is Bae ❤️

[eternal prism]

I don't know, look for similar ones on the market

[craggy niche]

Definitely not a fashion frame, in glory shes cool looking but she is ugly as hell

[eternal prism]

But it's definitely worth more than not rol

[eternal prism]

Hamster in tummy

🥺

[eternal prism]

Btw difference between 1k and 6k is 0.
If you're going to abuse the shield gate, you still get one-shot shields so she can survive comfortably until 9999, just like all the other frames in the game

Btw, it also turns operator into a very powerful toy that easily kills lvlcaps

[real night]

Ayo I'm back from years off and I'm wondering if nezha with pyrotechnics actually nukes or not. After like two weeks back I finally have Temple building

[earnest saddle]

pyrotechnics has some wonky limb interactions

ironically i think mag makes better use of it

[lone haven]

build for priming, what do you guys think

[fading ginkgo]

Anyone got a build for citrine

[fierce lark]

do heat instead of electricity

synergized prospectous already does elec

i would probably do primed regen & momentous bond over animal instinct & vicious bond

else there's a chance it spends a lot of time dead

[undone dust]

the impact procs from bato adding onto manifold should proc shattering impact right?

[fierce lark]

probabl not, shattering impact works off of damage, not procs

[lone haven]

nevermind polarities for now. Do you guys know how Primed Pack Leader would work on it instead of Primed Regen? On Batoten, not sure how to add the heat without transforming viral into gas or just boosting the radiation

[undone dust]

i hate you DIE

[fierce lark]

oh okay

[undone dust]

LMAO

[undone dust]

drop voltaic twin

[fierce lark]

you remove the elec mods for heat mods so it does heat instead of rad

or just one heat mod and another attack speed mod or smth

[lone haven]

oh, it was bcs of voltaic, truee

attack speed and range apparently doesn't work on hound weapons

[fierce lark]

ah well

if you wanted to be turbo aids you could put a smite mod instead of volcanic edge for heat inherit priming

but yikes

leaving it as is is good enough

[lone haven]

thank you thank you

[fierce lark]

you could do the slightest further optimization and use Akaten instead

which just replaces impact with slash

impact status is pretty useless unless you're doing mercy kills

at leash slash does some damage

[lone haven]

that was the reason I chose batoten instead of akaten. I haven't played much since the new war tbh and I'm not sure how much I will need the mercy kills. In my head slash has always been better, but even tho i'm legendary rank 1 I have a lot of stuff to do and I guess the meta has changed a lot. I really just came back today

[fierce lark]

after damage 3.0 and the jade shadows armor changes, slash is pretty bad now

rather than being mandatory

you can damage armored enemies without slash/full stripping, and slash's damage type is the weakest of the three (impact being the most useful because it's positive against the tankiest factions)

armor being hard capped to 90% DR and armored units being given a lot of health to compensate has made slash a lot weaker now relative to other dots/damage types

majority of weapons now run viral/corrosive, either standalone or alongside heat, elec or cold (if prime)

and most melee weapons run pure elec with influence, or primed toxin with exposure/afflictions

[lone haven]

damn, slash used to be so good. At least viral and corrosive are still viable

pure elec? Why

[fierce lark]

melee influence

Melee Influence is a Melee Arcane Enhancement that grants melee Electricity status procs a 20% chance to grant a timed buff that causes melee elemental status effects to spread to enemies around the targeted enemy. The buff cannot have its duration refreshed.

tl;dr when it activates (on elec procs), ALL of your elemental melee statuses will spread to all enemies within 20m of the target

and this is a buff on you that lasts 18s

it turns your melee wep into a 20m on-hit nuke

since elec's first damage tick is instant, and elec is how you activate the arcane, melee weapons using it are modded only with electricity to maximize the chance of elec procs, and then every elec proc while active will blow up everything around you

[lone haven]

oh damn

is it meta in steel path as well? what's the end game now?

[fierce lark]

and yes, it's every bit as broken as it sounds

endgame (aside from meta comp farms and lvlcap etc) is elite deep/temporal arcimedea

the "intended" endgame by DE, at least currently

or you can go collecting, lots of new stuff in the last cpl years

[sturdy vault]

how many archon shards do I need to full strip enemies w ocucor?

[fierce lark]

hard to say what's "meta" given just about everything is strong enough to clear all current content if modded appropriately and/or buffed sufficiently, but good melees with influence will nuke lvlcap

[lone haven]

I will try it out then, I like melee weapons in this game. But my current one is probably much out od date, a zaw made out of peye, ooltha and ekwana ii jai

there is no cephalonwannab or anything like that anymore, right? Probably just overframe

I'd like to check some tier lists about melee weapons now xd maybe on youtube?

[fierce lark]

i have a small writedown of what i believe to be an unordered top 5/6 best weapons in each class

Light Melee:

Nami Solo Incarnon
Dual Ichor Incarnon
Okina Prime Incarnon
Innodem
Hate Incarnon

Heavy Melee:

Magistar Incarnon (Slam)
Arca Titron (Slam)
Harmony (Heavy)
Ceramic Dagger Incarnon (Heavy)
Falcor/Xoris (Throw)
Coda Pathocyst (Throw)

cdagger is probably overrated slightly

still good though

[lone haven]

hate but incarnon? :O

[fierce lark]

hate does have an incarnon

i haven’t used it but supposedly it’s pretty crazy

also has an expensive af augment

[lone haven]

I loved my old Hate, I have 5 formas in it

I will have to get that incarnon version

I'm saving that list and will check it out once I get the weapons myself, thank you

[fierce lark]

hate might actually be more commonly used as a heavy spam, not entirely certain

there is a light influence build but it requires subsuming shock and using shock trooper

modding elec makes the Incarnon fireballs do radiation

[sonic folio]

Turn heat into blas then add electric

[novel bear]

Sampotes beats arca triton

[fierce lark]

oh neat

[novel bear]

Gas would be a better choice

[sonic folio]

Incredible gassy

[fierce lark]

gas elec is what my ceramic dagger looks like since that thing also has incarnon heat

but it has shit crit stats anyways so it can replace the crit mods with gas mods and do influence without shock

[sonic folio]

Society if we had a innate blast weapon like viciss

[novel bear]

Blast is mid

So is gas

Pure elec is better

[fierce lark]

yeah but certain weapons can't do pure elec

[craggy niche]

I need to get my sevagoth ready to do eda tonight

Only played the frame whilst leveling it and just kinda let him sit

[sonic folio]

Sew a goth

[craggy niche]

Is there any other uses for a rakta dark dagger other than a survival stick

I use it for instance on my hildryn under the super rare occurrence that I actually run out of shields

[sonic folio]

Wanna buy my biotic rounds for 2k p

[tough idol]

any warframes suggestion for level cap void cascade ? pls

[late hemlock]

Tbh if im stat sticking anything as melee on hildryn its either furax for amalgam firerate mod or praedos cause praedos

Dark dagger is just outdone in aspects besides its unique passive so if you dont need it I wouldn't use it

[novel bear]

Just take two sequence weapons in

[drowsy herald]

How do I get hundreds of millions of crits? My sancti magistar can go to 12-15 mil . It is still good but I want bigger numbers

[late hemlock]

Theres a bunch of stuff that go into slam damage so its not any one specific thing

[rocky mason]

Kullervo

Wrathful advance even subsumed can get those numbers up

[wraith sinew]

will valence formation trigger arcane intention while its active?

or no because it's a passive

[novel bear]

Valence formation isn’t channeled

Though apparently intention works on a lot of non-channeled abilities
Not valence formation though

[drowsy herald]

I'm gonna get him soon. I need his chassis and main

[craggy niche]

Could always slam with zephyr

Theoretically endless damage scaling with that one aug

[drowsy herald]

I don't have Zephyr prime yet

Probably gonna get her on the resurgence whenever that comes

[craggy niche]

mfw i realize that this is literally perfect for ivara lmao

wait is this arcane viable for mesa's waltz?

oh nevermind it's on weakpoint

[sonic folio]

You better roll on man

[daring summit]

best kubrow for a primer is ..... ?

[late hemlock]

None of them are effective at spreading status

Sunika does have a precept that let's it hit multiple enemies in quick succession but it is so much worse than companions with actual priming capabilities

Kubrows are better for just straight up dealing damage instead of priming

[near vortex]

Exodia Contagion

[undone dust]

my favorite magistar arcane

[undone dust]

predasites (namely pharaoh) arent too bad but it still kind of falls flat still

[near vortex]

Magistar equivalent Zaw

[late hemlock]

Predasites arent kubrows

[buoyant patio]

And for that, Huras is generally the best I've found. Highest crit stats of all the Kubrow claws plus invisibility.

[undone dust]

they can use the mecha set so it counts

[near vortex]

Exodia Contagion is pretty peak for the big number

[late hemlock]

Sunika claws have double the stats so it ends up doing more damage even with the marginally lower crit chance

Also its attack precepts are p good, huras got none

[near vortex]

Huras isn't going to be dead half of the time

Nice dog that does damage, shame it's dead

[late hemlock]

I mean sunika isnt either if you give it some survivability in many forms

Just like how with huras you are forced to play caster for it to keep invisibility

[near vortex]

Or you can
Invis dog

[buoyant patio]

I find that the invisibility is worth more than a bit more damage, personally. But that's just me.

My Huras still one-shots most things in Steel Path so.

[near vortex]

Huras is funny on Limbo because melee steal multiplier

[late hemlock]

Again it only works with a very specific playstyle to begin with

Sunika can also work with other specific playstyles

I am NOT saying that huras does anything but very impressive damage, but in terms of raw output sunika will do more

[buoyant patio]

I mean, I'm not arguing that.

What I find to be the best is an opinion, not fact.

[undone dust]

screw kubrows
moa method!!

[sonic folio]

Don't mind if i do

[abstract schooner]

Anyone have tips to improve on this wisp for steel path (not level capping) build?
Using glaxion as primary for killing with laetum to kill acolytes.
Archong are 3 tau forged red for strength an 2 Yellow with 1 casting speed and 1 parkour velocity .
Using praedos as melee but not main focus.
Not sure which companion would work this, currently using nautilus prime with verglas prime

[fierce lark]

before anything, move the bullet polarity on critical surge to fused reservoir (or move the omni there), omni don't work on umbra

i dont like either of the augments personally, but that's all personal pref. you shouldn't need adaptation, 2 makes you effectively invulnerable while it's active

if you don't like pressing it a lot then sure

[abstract schooner]

its rather i forget than not liking it XD
and yh realised too late omni doesn't work for umbra (and forgot you could swap a polarised slot to another)

[fierce lark]

x companion with verglas is best if your focus is on sentinel dps, just make sure the companion has duplex bond + fired up

though, by the sight of ice storm, im assuming the verglas is modded for cold

[charred gale]

How often are u actually procing primary debilitate, i feel like enemies usually die before u get 10 procs

[late hemlock]

I think they are trying it through debilitate blast?

[fierce lark]

ice storm is abilities only iirc

[late hemlock]

Its any proc iirc I think it works with careen too

[abstract schooner]

this is the current nautilus build + verglas

[fierce lark]

oh ice storm only procs when an enemy is fully frozen

so it works with careen but it requires the weapon to apply 10 cold which is never happening with blast debilitate ever ever ever

[novel bear]

That’s why it has the bug where it works on other freezing abilities that don’t use cold

[abstract schooner]

it procs fairly often through blast + magnetic valiance

[novel bear]

I forget if petrify still triggers it

[charred gale]

Alr alr

[fierce lark]

blast debilitate is atrociously garbage and i'll explain why

debilitate by itself is already bad at what it does, it's almost always just a worse version of primary crux

because debilitate requires 10 stacks on the target, and blast resets every 10 stacks, you only get 1/10th of the output from debilitate on blast as you would from other statuses

it is atrociously bad, especially with blast

[novel bear]

Do corro cold or viral elec

Or corro heat

[charred gale]

Alr have nourish

[near vortex]

You could acolyte kill with Praedos

[near vortex]

There's a lot of Debilitate jank that has not been figured out yet

Apparently it rerolls crits or something

[fierce lark]

if there's any jank that gets figured out that suddenly reveals it to not be dogshit i'll change my stance, but so far both in the intended and unintended interactions i've seen, it's pretty bad

[novel bear]

I don’t think any amount of jank could make it good

Maybe if it tripled dipped on roar

[prime ivy]

Anyone got a good Coda Motovore build? Mine has 45% magnetic bonus if that makes a difference

I might swap it to another element eventually if needed

[fierce lark]

since you have nourish, you can swap viral here for corrosive and replace shivering contagion with elementalist

also do 90 heat instead of 60, it already has a ton of modded status chance and the extra heat buffs the heat status as well as the raw damage

[abstract schooner]

corro cold it is, glaxion has cold base so any heat turns into blast

[fierce lark]

do corro blast with crux, reroll the progenitor to heat if you can

holy awful typo

[sonic folio]

Hold the crust

[prime ivy]

The unique trait on the motovore makes me really unsure of how to mod it, as modding for physical damage types fell off hard at some point

[fierce lark]

you mod it the same way as most slam weapons but instead of primed fever strike you use primed heavy trauma

[prime ivy]

I don't like slamming

What if I just wanna swing it

[novel bear]

You can try crabsweat

[undone dust]

im going to give you heavy trauma

[fierce lark]

and rending strike instead of elementalist

[novel bear]

Hammers are pretty bad for light attack though

[prime ivy]

"Same way as most slam weapons" means nothing to me as I have never done a slam build

[fierce lark]

lol sorry

[prime ivy]

It's okay, I know it got really popular so it makes sense to assume I'd know

[fierce lark]

it's actually not that similar to other slams

you kinda have to play it with duplicate, all the other melee arcanes don't interact well with its damage scaling

or i guess crescendo

[novel bear]

Primed fever strike, double sacs/ppp and galv steel, seismic wave, organ shatter, galv reflex, and the last two are flex slots, corrupt charge for more initial combo, gladiator might for cc and cd, focus radon for faster combo regen

[prime ivy]

It seems like a very strange weapon to mod overall

[novel bear]

Except primed fever strike is an ips mod instead

[fierce lark]

this is the usual slam build for context

[prime ivy]

Sick

[novel bear]

Raw damage slam, at least
Afflictions slam builds are different, but motovore isn’t good at afflictions

[fierce lark]

you can probably do a slash afflictions build and a puncture doughty build, but the best build is impact because impact is the only physical that has a primed element

[prime ivy]

That works for like the Sibear for instance though, yeah?

[novel bear]

Yes

[prime ivy]

Wait fr??? Impact used to be the worst physical dmg type

I've been away from the game for a bit, since before nokko

[fierce lark]

it's the best "damage type" currently, out of phys

but it has the worst status effect

[prime ivy]

Ohhhhh okay the status itself is bad, not the dmg

[fierce lark]

status effect mostly does nothing unless you care about mercy kills, but damage vs grineer, scaldra and anarch are all very nice

[novel bear]

It’s the best because it has the mod for the most raw damage

Which is what you want in this case

[fierce lark]

yeah it's really just primed heavy trauma existing, only reason

[prime ivy]

Huh, it's interesting that the other 2 physical ones don't have a primed version

[fierce lark]

this is the ninjase build, im honestly not sure about collision force vs organ shatter

[prime ivy]

Though slash was OP for so long I'm not surprised

[fierce lark]

blood rush sucks usually (for 5x) but it's there to hit the threshold for duplicate i suppose

adding 240% exposure when your mods are hitting +2000% is pretty useless lol

[prime ivy]

To be fair it will be a while before I have the arcane or exilus slots unlocked, so I'll have to work on a limited build for now, but a framework is what I needed so thank you

[fierce lark]

oh, well i wouldn't worry about it then

melee duplicate and crescendo are both only farmable from netracells or deep archimedea

[prime ivy]

Wish there were easier ways to get arcane adapters besides farming out the plat

[fierce lark]

so if you don't even have melee arcanes unlocked yet you're a long way off

[prime ivy]

No no I meant I don't have an adapter

And i have no plat to spend on them lol

[novel bear]

You can buy the adapters from bird 3

[deep grotto]

Grind sellable items 🔥

[novel bear]

50k standing

[prime ivy]

YO WAIT YOU CAN?!?!

[prime ivy]

That's a little less than 2 days worth, I can work with this

[prime ivy]

My problem is usually that I don't ever find anyone wanting to buy what I farm, i don't feel like hunting down obscure radshares to ensure full prime sets lol. I was basically gonna mod up and mastery grind my newer weapons while I run bounties for aya

Ig corrupted mods are always an option tho

Those sell easy

[undone dust]

sling crack for money and buy platinum or something

[prime ivy]

Realest answer ngl

I'd probably just sell weed tho

[undone dust]

thank you its what i do

[novel bear]

Better uses for platinum than arcane adapters tbh
Like slots and fashion

[prime ivy]

I have plenty of slots and some really good fashion, I don't know where to get arcane adapters for non-melee weapon types

Aside from market

[undone dust]

secondary and primary are from teshin for steel essence
archgun is from deepmine stuff in fortuna

[novel bear]

Secondary and primary arcane adapters are super cheap

[prime ivy]

Ohhhh okay, so there is another reason to finish all the planets on Sp

[undone dust]

there can also occasionally be primary/secondary/melee adapters in the 1999 calendar

[novel bear]

15 steel essence

Unless you have a kuva addiction, there’s not much else to spend steel essence on

[undone dust]

i consume kuva like crack

[prime ivy]

I spent some on riven ciphers over the years bc sometimes those unveiling challenges are just dumb

[fierce lark]

the only arsenal slots i ever buy for platinum are exilus slots

because they're the only ones that are annoying as shit to get

[prime ivy]

I usually just pick up exilus adapters from alerts on the occasions they pop up

So I don't have many things with usable exilus slots lol

Oh neat I was sitting on 46 steel essence

[deep grotto]

Warframe.market jumpscare

[prime ivy]

To be fair market is buggy as hell on my phone

[deep grotto]

o7

[rough vale]

Lingward sold me fentanyl 2 weeks ago

[undone dust]

i did

no refunds

[drowsy herald]

I mainly need archgun adapters but deepmines bounties make me wanna kms

[undone dust]

well at least if you dont get lucky you can buy them with the currency

[drowsy herald]

I wish it was just normal standing instead of stupid mushroom stuff

[undone dust]

truth..

[drowsy herald]

I like that they try new things but this was just shooting themselves in the foot specially with that stoner scammer who will buy mushrooms for 1 fragolyte each but sell you for 10

[plain apex]

Does anyone have a spare spectral spirit for that I can have for dagath, I’m trying to make a steel path build but I’m not actively in favor with the red veil

[granite ginkgo]

the what

[tepid scaffold]

Cascade fissure to lvl cap (1.5hrs on average)

1. Max daily Simaris standing

2. Max traces to refill on rad relics

3. 55-65 arcanes (with booster). Tons of vosfor

4. More SE then you know what to do with (max kuva and relic packs from teshin + all the adapters for guns you'll ever need)

5. 27 relics consumed per run

(Yes I came out of nowhere to shill cascade lvl cap)

[tepid scaffold]

Spectral spirit augment? You need to ask trade chat not builds

[plain apex]

I didn’t know I just joined the server ty for the info

[prime ivy]

I hate void cascade ngl, zariman missions in general are among my least favorite but SP cascade is like the 2nd worst (nothing is worse than defection imo)

[tepid scaffold]

Really you despised cascade??

It's basically a game of tug of war. Clear exo, kill thrax, maintain majority.

I find it FAR better then survival or defense

[prime ivy]

Yeah that's not fun at all to me

Admittedly last time I tried was a few years ago and i still used sirocco

[fierce lark]

it's a lot less not-fun when your amp works

[granite ginkgo]

worst as skil issues?

[granite ginkgo]

as loadout issues then

[prime ivy]

I don't remember which amp I have now, I built a decent dmg 3-shot burst and it's great for void angels and thrax

[granite ginkgo]

did u done the new focus upgrade? now ur school can mods the amps

[fierce lark]

if you have 5x7 or 1x7 amp with either madurai or with a modded tauron strike, it will onetap thrax all the way to lvlcap, so you're good

[prime ivy]

I mean I have all the basic madurai skills maxed out, been grinding up zenurik but I could swap back

[fierce lark]

if you don't have a tauron strike with dps mods maxed, you need to be on madurai

[prime ivy]

I mean i played the old peace but there are no new skills available on the tree

Idk how this works, I was on hiatus since early oraxia release

[fierce lark]

so presumably you haven't gone to maria and bought one of her tektolyst artifacts

[prime ivy]

No, I'm reluctant abt descendia

[fierce lark]

you dont have to do descendia for that, just perita

[prime ivy]

Ah okay, there was very little info in game after the quest tbh, they just kinda appeared as options on the nav console and I didn't feek like jumping straight in

[granite ginkgo]

descendia is gameplay for new warframe, n vendor as in pity store

[tepid scaffold]

Ah... yeah a bad amp can ruin the experience

[drowsy herald]

I have the starter 123 something amp will that work with my almost max madurai

[prime ivy]

Idk what numbers go with which amp parts, I've got a Cantic prism/Certus brace/Phahd scaff

[tepid scaffold]

If you ever want to give it an actual shot with a decent team, check out the server in my tag

[fierce lark]

that is 547, ie the (probably) most popular general use amp

[prime ivy]

I just went with what my old clan at the time told me to build before they took me eidolon hunting lol

[pallid quiver]

are any of voruna's augments necessary?

[granite ginkgo]

just prey of dynar augment dps best in slot

[lean tendon]

547 is already good enough for everything

Just need to get amp and operator arcanes + tauron strike + arcanes later in the game

Personally I like 147

[daring summit]

i figured the mecha set would kinda cover the deficiencies. i know panzers are liked. what other companions are considered good primers.

[midnight horizon]

If you wsnt infinite 4th then u can use Ulfurs...... Ul-.... 4 augment

[cold salmon]

diriga with arc coil + manifest bond

[robust pike]

Does Secondary Outburst on a secondary still work to buff mesas regulators?

[fierce lark]

no, the regulators need to have outburst equipped

[robust pike]

Figured, ty for the confirmation

Do red archon shards still buff their crit chance, or are they not considered secondaries anymore?

[fierce lark]

they do

anything that works on secondaries will also work on exalted secondaries

[robust pike]

Gotcha, ty again

[prime ivy]

I use emergence savior and renewed on drifter, and eternal eradicate is the only amp arcane I have

I'm working on perita stuff to unlock tauron strike

Side note, which melee arcane should I be using/farming for atlas' Landslide fists? I use a r2 fortification on my meme armor build but I don't have that many and I don't think I have the right one/s to use here for a less meme build lol. Aside from the one I'm using I've got:
R5 doughty
R0 duplicate
R1 exposure
R1 influence
R0 retaliation

I don't think duplicate would work bc I almost exclusively punch for red crits, and I don't really want to sacrifice any of my crit/combo/dmg mods for an electric to use influence (I also don't know if anyone would even put that on his fists, tazer punching sounds funny in theory but idk how well that would work in practice)

[fierce lark]

duplicate is very niche, rarely is it better than alternatives

glaive prime and motovore are the only weapons i know that want to use it

[prime ivy]

I've considered exposure on the fists tbh

But idk how much benefit the corrosive actually has

[fierce lark]

exposure is always good for single target, not that atlas really needs more of that

influence is influence, broken like always

[fierce lark]

the corrosive isn't super relevant, it's more just +240% elemental damage on the side is a lot

[tawdry trail]

the third punch in the landslide combo has a knockdown so afflictions can do something

[fierce lark]

and corrosive as a damage type is good, hits grineer and scaldra

[prime ivy]

Is that one I can get from bird 3 or do I need to gamble/farm something else?

[tawdry trail]

ascension arcane

[prime ivy]

Jade's event?

[tawdry trail]

yeah

[prime ivy]

Ig it's a good thing it's coming back soon then

[tawdry trail]

I can't remember the name of the mission but it's on uranus, you can buy copies from ordis too

[tawdry trail]

oh fr?

[prime ivy]

If I remember correctly, yeah, but double check on that to be sure

[velvet pulsar]

Brutus

[tawdry trail]

ah yes

interesting how many uranus nodes are named after shakespeare characters

[fierce lark]

ass ur

[velvet pulsar]

Assur means demon.

[prime ivy]

It'd be funny if there were a node somewhere called Ea Nasir and there was a line about sub-par coprun

[velvet pulsar]

Or monster.

[prime ivy]

Okay so I think I was wrong, looks like we're getting a new operation shortly after Follie drops

[tawdry trail]

oh yup

[prime ivy]

Attramentum I think?

[tawdry trail]

wouldn't be surprised if they bring back ascension sometime this year though

[prime ivy]

It seems like one they brought back not too long after its original run so hopefully

[craggy niche]

so i'm looking at untime void

rift*

that shit could be redonkulously powerful on a range built xaku in endurance

[undone dust]

so a normal endurance xaku build

[craggy niche]

probably even better to be honest

xata's might not be auto subsume for roar with this tech. it's conditional and if you really want the most out of it you kinda need a beam and manifold bond

but

[prime ivy]

One of my favorite subsume shenanigans was slapping null star on Titania

[undone dust]

untime doesn't really push him any further as lohk already scales with level, but it just makes your weapon damage slightly better and your lohk kill slightly quicker at lower levels in endurance (you would need to keep xatas or run external void via astral bond)

[undone dust]

roar shouldn't really be an auto subsume
it's a negligible buff for an ability that doesnt need it

things like omamori for lazy survivability and pillage for a better mobile strip are usually significantly better

[craggy niche]

i've never been a fan of subsuming over his 3 it's wayy to powerful

plus you literally can't build him to one strip with pillage so i would argue that pillage is actually a worse stripping ability in xakus case

[undone dust]

eh maybe for less mobile missions
gaze being stationary isnt all that crazy
accuse is fine
and deny just exists

[undone dust]

pillage isnt only for the strip
it's for active gating and a status cleanse if you prefer the more active playstyle route

[craggy niche]

ya i know

[quiet laurel]

pillage on xaku is goated

fck xakus 3 all my homies hate xakus 3

[craggy niche]

2 strip vs one cast strip?

gross

[undone dust]

good thing terrify exists if you dont care about the extra survivability properties and still want a more mobile strip

[craggy niche]

at that point it's not even worth it lol

[quiet laurel]

it is

[craggy niche]

what's wrong with just casting accuse over terrify

[undone dust]

im just not a huge advocator for gaze as it's a great strip but it being stationary holds it back

[quiet laurel]

cause stationary strip sucks ass

[craggy niche]

gaze*

it's just as mobile as terrify is lol

[quiet laurel]

its not

[undone dust]

it really isnt

[craggy niche]

last time i checked terrify doesn't follow you around lol

[quiet laurel]

you need an enemy to cast it on + it stays on that enemy while terrify is an instant cast without any requirements and is non LoS

[undone dust]

gaze strips from enemy cast point

and will stay in that spot

[craggy niche]

it casts in a set area and you cast it again when you need it again

just like gaze lol

and is much more energy hungry than gaze

animations are pretty much the same, both tolerably short

only advantage terrify has over gaze is non los, other than that it's the same/worse energy economy for a already energy starved char due to untime costing a bajillion energy to cast

[undone dust]

i have never really had energy issues on xaku

and thats across like 12 builds on currently 2 primes

[lean tendon]

^ you won't cast that much with Xaku due to how his energy economy works

[undone dust]

soon to be more probably

[craggy niche]

you have to cast terrify a helluva lot more than gaze lol

[lean tendon]

eh not really + terrify is the alternative option for people who somehow hates pillage

[craggy niche]

plus you lose basically a 5th ability that's not bad

or just.. use his kit 🙄

[lean tendon]

its not that hard to hit pillage breakpoints either since most Xaku builds run Corrosive Projection

[craggy niche]

you cannot hit 328 while running 280 range

[undone dust]

280% is completely unnecessary btw

[craggy niche]

not in any good fashion anyway lol

[craggy niche]

yes, i too like to advocate for less dps 🤣

[undone dust]

twin
i run 250% and 265% range xakus for cap and there is literally almost no difference

[lean tendon]

280 range is completely optional especially now that with the damage attenuation changes, caster Xaku is nerfed and stolen guns works better similar to word warden playstyle

[undone dust]

280 is just dopamine atp

[craggy niche]

they made a whole ass aug that's really good to make him more of a stationary caster lol

[undone dust]

actually surprisingly untime is pretty solid for a mobile playstyle, i use it in my pillage build and one of my weapon platform builds

[lean tendon]

nerfed due to damage attenuation

Xaku is dealing the same amount of damage but enemies have triple the eHP so it takes triple the amount of time to kill

word warden playstyle is now better than invis caster playstyle

[undone dust]

cascade wise it doesn't necessarily matter all that much because the only thing his guns cant actively kill are acolytes

i wish there were more consistent level climbing missions

[lean tendon]

yeah at level cap Xaku's stolen guns become thanos

[nova geyser]

What is a good low level xaku prime build nuke

[craggy niche]

xaku isn't a nuke lol

[undone dust]

cascade is fun to an extent and disruption is just mind numbingly boring

[warm obsidian]

So...
Do I just replace Valkyr's Paralysis with Raor?

[lean tendon]

Xaku isn't really a nuke but rather a weapon platform frame

[warm obsidian]

Technically a nuke at max guns and 1 enemy

[nova geyser]

Ok

[undone dust]

nourish, wrathful, or lycaths
roar doesnt provide much unless you go for the influence route but that doesnt do much of anything up until much higher levels (i.e endurance)

[lean tendon]

Vast Untime is nuke for boxes though

[nova geyser]

I'm guessing valkyr might be a nuke build?

[craggy niche]

sevagoth is good entry level nuke

it's kinda just what his kit does

[nova geyser]

Ok I have sevagoth

[undone dust]

truth

[lean tendon]

uh depends on what your definition of nuke is

[warm obsidian]

Yeah... I'm just gonna go Roar for now

Don't even have the frames for those skills

[lean tendon]

if your definition of nuke is to just 1 hit enemies, otherwise no

[undone dust]

she already has enough damage nonetheless so either way you'd be fine twin

[lean tendon]

but that definition applies to a lot of things in WF

[nova geyser]

A lot of red crit

[lean tendon]

sure she is

[nova geyser]

Or high red crit

[craggy niche]

til gyre is a nuke

okay well i guess in a sense she is it just doesn't scale out well in endurance

they should buff gyre and make the bolts scale to enemy level. trust will not be broken

[warm obsidian]

Galvanized Steel and Blood rush is already enough for Red Crit

[undone dust]

at least she's a much more comfortable nuke with circumvent now opening up to being able to use roar without feeling like shit

[nova geyser]

I need to get the galvanized mods

[craggy niche]

circumvent playstyle is clunky at best on her. so is roar, she needs strip bad and pillage fixes both her problems

[undone dust]

honestly coil has been solid grouping for me so stripping large groups with circumvent has been little issue

but pillage does still feel a bit better due to its status cleanse

[craggy niche]

coil is okay but not really worth with conductive sphere being so aggresively powerful

[undone dust]

but it is refreshing to try something new that doesnt feel like total ass

[quiet laurel]

they just need to reduce the cooldown on her bolts thb

bring back the instant cast of 500 bolts 🗣️

which tbf crashed most devices but its very funny

[craggy niche]

you can still get a ton of bolts with beams, i'm using amprex on her until i get this boar incarnon done and it's pretty hilarious lol

[undone dust]

amprex my beloved

[quiet laurel]

I dont think you know what I mean lemme see if I can the vid

[craggy niche]

then i have magnus or laetum as a damage dealer in my 2ndary and okinas as a stat stick for movement speed lol

[undone dust]

magnus is definitely a relic and i can respect it

[craggy niche]

it does really solid damage vs acolytes

[undone dust]

with augment it still is hilarious and i love it

[quiet laurel]

cant find the video but you used to be able to instantly cast like a bazillion bolts on enemies

[warm obsidian]

Running shield gate in Xaku until I can get my hands on Archon shards

[craggy niche]

wait there's a magnus augment?

[quiet laurel]

is the shield gate in the room with us

[undone dust]

you're telling me you've been using it without the augment

[warm obsidian]

Oops wrong build

[craggy niche]

this one?

dear god

[undone dust]

yes

LMAO

the crit chance is applied after mods btw

[craggy niche]

it's final crit chance?

[undone dust]

basically

[craggy niche]

or it applies to your modded crit chance

[quiet laurel]

gotta use corrects terms

is it flat or additive or multiplicative

[undone dust]

oh true!

multi

[quiet laurel]

so its the only multi crit in the game still?

thats kinda crazy

[craggy niche]

oh that's pretty cool

[undone dust]

multiplicatively applied after mods
so with just primed pistol gambit you get over 300% cc

[craggy niche]

i wonder if you can just keep them after holster

[undone dust]

i dont think it goes away until you fire 2 shots so probably

[craggy niche]

like so can you just dodge with it out holster the turd and hit a acolyte with the yeetus deleetus as soon as it pops up?

[undone dust]

it's from nightwave so it's easy to pickup too

[quiet laurel]

just so we are on the same page multi crit means weapon crit * primed pistol gambit * deadly maneuvers

[undone dust]

basically

[craggy niche]

oh shit it's gdfr

i think mesa is my favorite circut frame cuz you can grief the hell out of people with those tiles lol

[warm obsidian]

Could go Archon if I Forma and mod my sentinel

[craggy niche]

oh shit can i play my little pony everywhere now?

rider rank 9 says you can call the horse in origin system??

[velvet pulsar]

Open worlds

[craggy niche]

man i swear isle weaver is the worse citrine grind these days

at least it gives pathos tho

2 birds one stone type shit

[eternal prism]

Not use blind rage on xaku

Ur damage scale by enemy lvl

This is unnecessary

[warm obsidian]

Anything to replace it with :v

[lean tendon]

I mean it's fine if you use Gaze

or if you use subsumes like Pillage

[eternal prism]

U not need pilage

Ophamim better here

Cus it very hard die on xaku

[eternal prism]

U can change aura

[lean tendon]

pillage is just for a more mobile strip most of the time but the survivability helps as well

[eternal prism]

Pillage need more dur. Xaku need range

Ophanim need dur and some str

Pillage not good choise

[lean tendon]

it's a good choice

just not for everyone's taste

[eternal prism]

Losing other stats to play with pillage is not effective
I don't care, but it's just unnecessary

[lean tendon]

you are not really losing other stats

[undone dust]

yeah especially when he's pretty free on both shard and arcane selections

[eternal prism]

You get less range and dur cus u need 328 str with corr aura
I have the same build on gyre
But in her case she doesn't need that much dur and range

This is a very expensive build in terms of stats.
Xaku need only range dur and some str

Ophanim eyes are very suitable here

It give more control for xaku

[undone dust]

yeah im still not going to get behind an arguably worse strip that only provides a form of slow compared to pillage's status cleanse and active shield gating as an extra survivability layer

[lean tendon]

I am not arguing about you on this, I just said it's a good armor strip option and I am not saying Ophanim is bad or not an option for Xaku

[undone dust]

im up for trying new things, hell i even took the time to make a health tank xaku work
but when something is just worse than another option i cant get behind it

[lean tendon]

like bro you are arguing over nothing

[undone dust]

it is pretty bad ✌️😭
it's a per second strip and at 300% it only strips 30% every second

[eternal prism]

I'm not arguing, I just mentioned that it's not necessary. As I wrote above

[undone dust]

it also strips in a cone compared to pillage just yknow
being around you

[lean tendon]

The thing that started this is strength mod anyways

[eternal prism]

In the current reality of the game, you never need a full strip

[lean tendon]

then you might as well not subsume Ophanim

argument already falling off