builds-discussion

[novel bear]

But whatever
Build how you want

[eternal prism]

It's not enough in any case

[novel bear]

50% more

Can you do math?

[eternal prism]

It's still not enough

[solid delta]

yes it is. Range on fists is the AOE, range on the ability is how far you can target enemies

[eternal prism]

For a status build you want at least 20 or 25

[solid delta]

it doesnt have enough attack speed and it deals too much dmg for melee influence to be effective so I just go all out on dmg

also i dont like melee influence anyway

[warm obsidian]

Debating on what to pick up 1st, Primed Reach or Primed Fever Strike

Will be slotting in Melee Exposure when I have the chance

[eternal prism]

I know people who justify this even on valkyrie... But these are strange people.

[eternal prism]

I sent a build for them yesterday. You can find it in my messages.

[long portal]

some would call her valkyr

[summer moon]

relative perecent doesn't work in this situation cuz it still very low

[novel bear]

Relative percent absolutely works

[eternal prism]

Fever strike give u more damage

[novel bear]

Why would it not work

[solid delta]

maybe I put gladiator might on it

[novel bear]

Learn how to build

[solid delta]

I dont need more combo duration

[eternal prism]

☠️

[solid delta]

12.5s is plenty

[novel bear]

You’re not using dexterity?

[opaque wave]

anyone can teach me how to build khora

[eternal prism]

One-shot enemies or wait for the status to apply with low status chance melee

[solid delta]

I am

but on primary only

I use encumber on epitaph for more status

[novel bear]

Archgun dexterity?

[eternal prism]

U need whip or khora build?

[summer moon]

u can use it on an archgun

[opaque wave]

a resource farming build

[solid delta]

wait youre right

[eternal prism]

Let me log in warframe

[opaque wave]

take your time

[summer moon]

+15s

but as i remember(i can be wrong)
it has no effect if your gear is locked

[solid delta]

I use naramon as well

I dont think this is neccessary

[eternal prism]

like clasw sevagoth

[long portal]

if you use naramon it doesn't matter

[eternal prism]

If you just need to farm, you can leave the dispensary for convenience.

[opaque wave]

is 6 forma needed?

[eternal prism]

for khora 1 for whip also 1

Overframe simply shows fully filled forms by default
I can't give a build in english otherwise because Im using a russian client.

[summer moon]

isn't it better to replace steel charge with brief respite? Or is there another source of shields that i don't know about?

[eternal prism]

augur reach enought

for catal shield u need atleas 1 shield

for get 1.33 sec for cast any abylity

[summer moon]

i haven't noticed this one, my bad

[eternal prism]

I actually wouldn't use this combination as long as vazarin exists :/

but for beginners it is necessary to have something similar in stock from builds

[summer moon]

i wonder how soon they will fix it

[eternal prism]

vazarin = pocket gauss

[summer moon]

or will they introduce a new mechanic how that was with a dragon key

*and catal shield

[eternal prism]

should they nerf gaus then...

With grimoire or the 1st skill of vazarin lavos, he can live at the expense of sg

🥺

[summer moon]

they can, but they may not do it

[eternal prism]

then i want deluxe oraxia if they don't do this

[summer moon]

my oraxia is crafting now and i wanna test a healthtank

[eternal prism]

☠️

Why would an invisible spider be an hp tank?

[summer moon]

just a test, nothing more.

[eternal prism]

youtube is full of these

These are too expensive builds... and they don't look very comfortable in the distributed stats

for that you can never die...

[summer moon]

i know, but im interested in doing that on my own

[summer moon]

i think every build that doesn't use vazarin isn't comfortable now

[eternal prism]

You can just use the sg mechanics or not take damage

Actually, a lot of people told me the same thing before. After running to level cap probably twice, I do it automatically

[summer moon]

anyway to achieve a healthtank immortality i need to get ~12k hp + grace or something that can regen me over 500hp/s

[eternal prism]

so it's not as inconvenient as everyone says

[summer moon]

i know, i often play a void cascade with lvlcaps

and my current main warframe for it - ash

[solid delta]

so much to be a fraction of what revenant can do

[summer moon]

so i know how "not take damage" works xD

[eternal prism]

Ash is funny, but for me he's boring... because the build needs to be updated

[summer moon]

i use him only as "buff" for weapons

[eternal prism]

secret 4th skill...

[drowsy herald]

Wise razor feels so clunky to use even with two attack speed mods. The only way to make it more bearable is with valkyr's warcry.

I love two handed nikanas but it could be so much better

[eternal prism]

but 2 hunded nikanas its always heavy build

isnt?

cuz...

[drowsy herald]

I do not care for heavy builds

[eternal prism]

600%+ 300%+300% slash

[drowsy herald]

I had enough of the heavy attack meta

[eternal prism]

Well, some weapons are just difficult to use in any other way.

[drowsy herald]

They should just add a new stance mod

[eternal prism]

it have 2.5 sec animtaion

and do only 3 hits

[solid delta]

if you build heavy attack might as well jsut build for slam

smh

[drowsy herald]

Exactly

[eternal prism]

There's a nuance... the slam radius

[solid delta]

youre talking like the heavy attack has large radius

[drowsy herald]

I know but it just gets boring because almost every other meta melee build is focused around heavy attacks

I wanted a change from it but I get why it's so popular because others are just doodoo

[eternal prism]

and damage too

200% slam damage it deals only...

[solid delta]

yeah right but heavy attack feels so clunky

[eternal prism]

Not very good stats for slam builds😭

[drowsy herald]

I can't wait to get my valkyr to 300% strength for even more attack speed for it's normal attack

[eternal prism]

It's hard to do anything about it, but two-handed nikans don't really have any other options

[drowsy herald]

Also is sun and moon good? Or is it also underwhelming and clunky?

[eternal prism]

secret strats

[summer moon]

He is very comfortable for a void cascade, armor strip, crit chance buff, +gelminth damage buff(one of), invisible... and there is no need in killing everyone at a void cascades

[solid delta]

yeah yeah until they spawn 20 spears and you get stuck in a corner

[eternal prism]

should be fine

[solid delta]

😂

[summer moon]

?

[eternal prism]

im not use armor strip with ash

[summer moon]

Same btw

[eternal prism]

i want nourish 1st skill or etc

[summer moon]

There is enough damage

[eternal prism]

secret quassus

[solid delta]

do you play void cascade solo?

[summer moon]

With randoms, cuz I wanna more arcanes

[solid delta]

then you wouldnt run into that problem

[summer moon]

Maybe, I don't see any point in running it solo

But ur case is interesting I will test it later

[glass spindle]

help, i need a Protea build full turrents for level 9999

[eternal prism]

It's more interesting solo🥺

[summer moon]

But arcanes...

[signal blade]

Guys what is the most amount of guns you have had on Xaku?

[eternal prism]

At least no one will say that you did it in a party...

[signal blade]

And is there a cap

[eternal prism]

13 or 14 if im not mistake

[signal blade]

Nope

Definitely not

[eternal prism]

in any case... why do you need more?

[signal blade]

But what is the most yall have had

[signal blade]

I hit a ridiculous number and I wanna know if anyone has done it too

[solid delta]

I guess you got a relic buff>

??

[signal blade]

Yes

And an invigoration

700% range 😭

[eternal prism]

just multiply by 2, around 30 then

[signal blade]

42 guns

[eternal prism]

secret relick builds

[signal blade]

Yeah

[midnight horizon]

Go WA on ash, replace his 1

[signal blade]

Its 21 with the invigoration

[signal blade]

Nourish on his 4 is better bc precision intensify

[eternal prism]

already

[eternal prism]

nope

[signal blade]

His armor strip on his 1 is good

[eternal prism]

4th good skill

[eternal prism]

u not need armor strip this way

There's enough damage in the game as it is

[signal blade]

Thats just how I use him I never really got into his 4

How does his 4 scale with enemy level

[eternal prism]

cuz u anyway use corrosive damage in gun

all time

[midnight horizon]

Amen

[signal blade]

And 42 guns just looks so silly

[eternal prism]

one shot level cap

[signal blade]

Is it energy demanding

Bc enemies are everywhere at level cap

[eternal prism]

~

[signal blade]

I did a solo level cap voidcascade with nourish on his 4 and his 1st augment

Ash is just a good frame either way

Also 175m on his 4 ^

[midnight horizon]

Who's 4?

[signal blade]

Ash

[eternal prism]

game engine won't let you do aoe at 175 meters

[signal blade]

What is ame engine

[eternal prism]

game

[signal blade]

Oh

So i surpassed the range limit? Lmao

[eternal prism]

game has a limit

[signal blade]

Lol

[summer moon]

Anyway there is someone who will say that I'm doing something in a wrong way

[midnight horizon]

That's little compared what you can do for Qorvex if you abuse the range hahahahah

Going upto 740 (somewhere) %

[midnight horizon]

It doesn't scale on enemy lvl tho

Finishers are just op hahahahha

[eternal prism]

not scake but it still oneshot

[midnight horizon]

Finisher bypass shields and armor

So yes it can one shot XDDDD

Its true damage

@lunar mesa

[south rivet]

How’s this build for incarnon burston for steel path

[eternal prism]

Just do this and everything will be fine

yell at the demolisher

[eternal prism]

copy past swap scope

[midnight horizon]

I mean.... It can deal powerful damage already

But I go Acuity on Burston... Not multi shot

[midnight horizon]

Or that works, Multishot

[eternal prism]

You can also replace the second galvanized mod with the regular version if you only use it for bosses

[midnight horizon]

XDDDDDD amen

[solid delta]

hell ye

[midnight horizon]

GOD DAMN 2 BIL??????? DID MY EYES DECEIVE MEEE????

[solid delta]

why are people so allergic to taking screenshots lol

[eternal prism]

primer and some broken necramechs

[midnight horizon]

Ay still... That damage is a no joke

[eternal prism]

For me they work weird and still take abnormal amounts of damage

[wild rune]

you haven't seen anything if you haven't seen -2.14b damage pop up

[eternal prism]

I would say I often see -b damage on them :/

they are very strange

[midnight horizon]

I'm

Idk what multipliar we doing for that

[solid delta]

just use mirage

[eternal prism]

old build my hate...

[midnight horizon]

Soon..... Soon... Imma be able to get hate

[eternal prism]

nami solo better

30m range

☠️

[midnight horizon]

I'm not into melee but I'll take DUAL ichor and Hate tbh

I have Zenistar and I just have it for..... Idk.... It's not even powerful

[solid delta]

I can deal a lot more dmg with the rumbled augment

but god I hate that playstyle

id rather go punch than toss rocks

[midnight horizon]

XDDD

[eternal prism]

I don't like this augment. It's not comfortable

[signal blade]

You dont need serration + merciless arcane

Use one or the other and that frees up a spot

[signal blade]

Frost does insane damage

[eternal prism]

burston need serration

and merciless also

or headshot arcane

co bad work on burston

[signal blade]

900m damage on a Sporlacer kitgun built for gas status damage

Can someone recommend me some good summoner builds

I dont really like calibans augment playstyle but I want to use a summoner build

[eternal prism]

should be fine without cc...

[solid delta]

nourish over 3??

[eternal prism]

I accidentally mixed them up

It doesn't matter what you actually change. It'll most likely be a one-shot at level cap anyway

[signal blade]

But not every build needs to be for level cap

When i was getting into level cap for the first time I always made my builds like that

[eternal prism]

yes
I'm just too lazy to change it actually

[signal blade]

Valid

I need to play uriel more

[eternal prism]

• equilibrium shard

You don't need more str because these dummies kill lvlcap anyway

even if im not use 2 and 4

[toxic cypress]

any ideas on how i can make this better?

[solid delta]

cunning drift

[eternal prism]

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[solid delta]

and something else instead of steel charge

[toxic cypress]

steel charge heat trusttt

prob gonna change it to growing power

[eternal prism]

Change it to something you are comfortable with
Sometimes I'm too lazy to change the steel charge because it gives more slots

[toxic cypress]

same its mostly why im using it lol

[zenith gust]

heres my wisp "builb"
if ya zoom in theres yellow text

[eternal prism]

builb

[eternal prism]

hotshot overhype honestly

[zenith gust]

i dont thonk its hype
i just do it cause i dont have avenger

[eternal prism]

but at least it can be sold profitably

[eternal prism]

why u need avenger if not use low cc guns

like ogris

[zenith gust]

cause when the burston incarnon says 150% crit chance
its not 300%

[eternal prism]

iknow

[zenith gust]

i want to become red green colourblind you see...

[eternal prism]

300% crit chance that needs to be maintained...? Honestly, it's useless

for the same reason it is not used in missa

[zenith gust]

im not in it for usefulness
its a builb not a build

idk how to build properly xd

[eternal prism]

ah sorry then

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-around-nervous-licking-lips-looking-left-and-right-gif-94744654549153706

[zenith gust]

im only mr 15 right now
i use influence on everything

[eternal prism]

its fine

[weak jasper]

Hey chat quick question. is it worth dumping your crit chance on felarx in order to abuse the x20 damage on noncrits?

[eternal prism]

✅

cuz felrax have co multi and base multiplicate with that

letum work correctly with that and i hear letum better in crit

[weak jasper]

I'm sad there's no corrupted mod that dumps fire rate

So you basically have to get a riven and roll that for reduced crit rate

[eternal prism]

for that u need riven

-cc or -puncture

[green gyro]

it's good on nova and uriel

because you have no problems keeping it stacked passively

on other frames it's just a headache, not worth imo

[eternal prism]

It's the same as a battery

It's a very narrow arcana, but you can make a lot of platinum with it

because this arcana is not mandatory at all

[karmic badger]

Nova is a better secondary weapon frame than mesa

[eternal prism]

mesa not about secondary...

https://tenor.com/view/cat-looking-around-nervous-licking-lips-looking-left-and-right-gif-94744654549153706

[nocturne thicket]

Anyone with a nokko subsume can u do some math for me????

[eternal prism]

At least write what you're talking about

[jovial mauve]

Is this enough status chance?

[eternal prism]

status chance for what enough

[dense belfry]

Whats yalls like
Fav crit melee to use?

For me its broken war but id like to hear yalls

[long portal]

people's answers might not be super applicable to you because of where you are in the game, but i like okina incarnon

[eternal prism]

caramic gas electro☠️

[jovial mauve]

I am patiently waiting for the day we get a new war variant

[dense belfry]

To be fair im more asking as a general ask

Imo im content with my broken war and garudas claws

[long portal]

garudas claws just get better and better as you go further

[dense belfry]

Ikr

Hell i have (with just 2 mods) got her status at 90% so im near always getting slash

Kinda wish i could find a melee arcane that benefits slash

Im pretty early on mod wise though im getting decently far at some stuff

I might play gaurda through the rest of the grind for steel path

[dense belfry]

Mmmmm...damage

[long portal]

in later gameplay you can use melee afflictions to multiply slash status on enemies

[dense belfry]

Ive seen that, ive been debating if i i should buy gyre prime

[jovial mauve]

Mmmmm...damage

[long portal]

gyre doesn't really work well outside of sp

her abilities go on cooldown if she doesn't chain electric procs, and things die too fast on star chart

[jovial mauve]

Build is not theoretically maxed

[dense belfry]

Basically gotta keep fighting?
Might...not be my thing then

[eternal prism]

u can hve 60 sec of all duration all ability

[long portal]

yeah, but it's hard to get the ball rolling in the first place on star chart

[dense belfry]

Im not always gonna be on top of an enemy 247 as best as i can try
Even on ESO im not always comboingneven on kullervo

[eternal prism]

use energy tablet -> 3-4 kill 1-3 enemy -> u done

[dense belfry]

Though it is funny to get like 200k blood orb...thingy then hold 1 till it says 3m and then nuke the hallway (i dont have insane range mods yet)

[eternal prism]

or find 1-2 energy sphere or 1 health

[jovial mauve]

401% status chance yes however primary merciless is at rank 3 out of five.

Arcane Arachne is only at 2 out of 5

Arcane rage is only at zero out of 5

Only using one tou forged red and two regular red archon shards

[severe bough]

U need to cast it once pretty much if u somehow run out or die or whatever just actived both ability again. Killing with weapons extends the durations anyways

[dense belfry]

Theres one arcane i wanna get to rank 5 so bad
Its the one that boosts strength based on base max hp
Which for me and kullervo? Thats a good jump up of damage and overgaurd to earn

Especially since, if i remember right, his 1s crit chance buff doesent cap

[long portal]

there's just not many enemies and sometimes they die before the procs can chain

[severe bough]

U dont need bellicose on kullervo just use augmented

[dense belfry]

Hi yes i dont have augmented.

And also stacking ability strength just works

Unless you mean umbral trio of mods

Im quite uh
Shite, right now. At least compared to the upper level of players

Either cuz im not encountering the mods i want or because im just horrendously unlucky

This prob gonna be answered while im mid rep grind

Is kullervos ability mods any worth (theres one that edits his 2 and one that edits his 4, both seen in the steel meridians shop)

[midnight horizon]

What is your goal in Kullervo? Or what was the problem

[dense belfry]

Goal is to basically do somewhat good damage (mostly need a better melee than broken war) while basically bring unkillable (his 2 generates overgaurd like nothin)

[eternal prism]

hmmmm.... i want riven with - cc

it eat my damage

[midnight horizon]

Then where are you at now? I usually use Kullervo WITH Xoris and just nuke them using it

Kullervo with the Augment (which you need for his 2) Jusy generates "infinite" overguard and makes it last longer

[midnight horizon]

What's the weapon? I can't read it

[eternal prism]

leatum

[midnight horizon]

Ohhhhhh

[eternal prism]

letum...

idk how it in eng

[dense belfry]

Gonna find this xoris...

Also i figured that as much. Just need to work with steel merridian more unless someones willing to trade it

[midnight horizon]

Laetum

[midnight horizon]

Kullervo has good damage... And he is a beast for melee platforming

Me I abuse the hell out of Xoris before I got Nataruk and Incarnon (as someone gifted me Kullervo before)

[eternal prism]

felrax oneshot eximus... it more fun

and probaly broken

my oraxia proc 3m toxin after tic

without even viral

new oraxia toy

[gusty nova]

Crit laetum is lowk better than noncrit

[eternal prism]

It's possible, but I'm too lazy to build it... I tried to sketch it out, but I didn't see much of a result

In any case, I probably won't use it anyway

[gusty nova]

Subsume xata to proc the Evo easily

[dense belfry]

Ah i have nataruk, i take it its a really good bow?

[eternal prism]

im not want use xata in my build only for 1 gun

but i try it with xaku

and still didn't get any significant results even with outburst

although I used a regular crit build for any secondary

[midnight horizon]

Very good

[eternal prism]

Although if we're not talking about the Inkarnon form, it might be better. I tested Inkarnon form

[dense belfry]

I should show you my attempt for a new player use Nataruk
Gimmie a min to get to my desktop

[midnight horizon]

Aight

[bright burrow]

brightbonnet jade feeling pretty good
with topaz archon shards and cascadia flare
just turned her into a heat dps

[green gyro]

is there a single melee that doesn't crit tho

maybe dark sword

but ppl usually use WA for that and coda mire is just better anyway

[dense belfry]

quite a few melees do status more than melee

i think the most noteable one is rumblejack

oh i have the xortis derp

this is my nataruk right now

the plan (when i get the forma) is to swap thunder with split chamber then prob max out galva and amalgom

[midnight horizon]

Oof.... Nice attempt but we can fix that

This is mine

Arcane is Primary merciless

But actually you need longbow arcane for Nataruk bc it's just better

Merciless is good but longbow is better

[green gyro]

no, not really

[dense belfry]

i forgot glva chamber existed

[midnight horizon]

Well yes

It's mostly focus on blast scattering to clear lanes and rooms, that's my Nataruk build

[dense belfry]

out of curiosity
why xoris, for melee?

[wild rune]

because Xoris took the crown from Glaive Prime when the enemy durability rebalance happened and gutted Slash as a result

it is a very powerful weapon even when "beginner modded"

arguably the strongest free weapon they give you

[dense belfry]

worthy of the orokin catalyst?

[wild rune]

easily

[dense belfry]

what type of stance mod does it take? gonna hunt for one

[wild rune]

doesn't matter, really

[dense belfry]

im more asking what kind not What stance to use

[wild rune]

ah

[dense belfry]

its so i can look for it in the mod catalog in the games codex

[wild rune]

Gleaming Talon and Astral Twilight I believe are the two glaive stances

[dense belfry]

off to lua pavlov i go

[wild rune]

godspeed, soldier

[midnight horizon]

Not saying I take sides but some would argue it's Falcor

But I agree with you

[wild rune]

they're pretty much interchangeable tbh

both of them inflict a wicked electric proc

[dense belfry]

i kinda wish i could have a setting where i can defualt to a specific group setting for diffrent missions
like ESO i want to be in public but a spy mission id rather be solo

because i keep forgetting to click to change party type

[midnight horizon]

But yeah

Good explosion and very Powerful if pairef with wa

[midnight horizon]

IL go GT than AT tbh

[wild rune]

I just slot whichever one I see first on the mod menu lmao
I'm playing glaive wrong if I click something other than the yeet button

[severe bough]

Yea but ur basically wasting one mod slot (that u could use for more QoL) to Active that arcane at it full potenial for 12% str more

[midnight horizon]

I guess that's valid

[midnight horizon]

What arcane is good for Kullervo tho? Like are there specific arcane aside the Molt Augmented and possibly persistence?

[severe bough]

Fury strike

Concentration

[eternal prism]

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[midnight horizon]

Fury? Huh I should've known

[severe bough]

Persistence kullervo should be a crime🥀

[midnight horizon]

I'm sorryyyyyy

[eternal prism]

question is rather whether an additive increase in damage is needed to what is already huge

parkour velocity my beloved

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-angry-mad-cat-meme-gif-17719456655395931550

[wild rune]

vip is ragey tonight

[midnight horizon]

Anyways just wanna ask

Since you have more experience in LVL Cap,

Does Gauss as a CC intended frame (not Nuke) is ok in Lvl Cap? (or enemies near lvl cap at least)

Or Vauban even

[severe bough]

Let me quickly

Do that casc then im gonne be right there

[midnight horizon]

I mean Vauban.... I can see him survive and go through lvl cap easily bc of his CC capabilities and his 2

[midnight horizon]

Oh ok

You are probably the most reliable source for lvl Cap bc you are marked as a lvl cap clearer as our last convo hahahahaah

Though other tennos here can be reliable too

[severe bough]

Nah not even close ive learned much from other people and sometimes still ask stuff

[wild rune]

I have a 40% chance of spreading misinformation because my information is outdated

[midnight horizon]

Fair, that's how all it is in WF hahahah

It happened to me all the time too

[eternal prism]

try crit felrax

[midnight horizon]

Or it's different info than what we know hahahaha

[eternal prism]

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[midnight horizon]

Puts it in my meme bag

[eternal prism]

fenmor is sniper rifle right? in incarnon form what is it

[wild rune]

phenmor incarnoff is precision rifle by technicality
incarnon is archgun, specifically a machine gun akin to imperator and the like

[midnight horizon]

But I'm curious with Gauss as a CC intended frame... Not as nuking frame but as CC intended frame

Pure range and Duration, spammy, and just neutral ab strength hahahaha

[eternal prism]

blast lavos platform... looks strong

almost cyte

[astral tinsel]

no scope and it doesn't use sniper mods

[eternal prism]

dams it looks like sniper :/

[astral tinsel]

incarnon mode is stronger anyway

[dense belfry]

what should i build the xoris for

or exactly...any newbie-ish builds i could do with it

[sonic folio]

Do you like xoris though

[dense belfry]

im still learnin how to use it

[storm forge]

Which weapon would be better for electricity status build: Amprex or Quanta? (Tenet or Vandal)

[sonic folio]

Many people including me don't like xoris cuz how you can't hold E to spam attacks

Still bought the glaive prime to flex though

[dense belfry]

for me its mouse 4 because my movement keys need to be on flex

[sonic folio]

Can you buy dual viciss

From market

But i think you'd need blueprint which can only earned from playing 1999

[fierce lark]

i dont believe so, psure it has to come from minerva

[sonic folio]

Well if you do those are the strongest melee in game that isn't incarnon

[fierce lark]

oh im a liar, you can buy it for like 200p

[sonic folio]

Requires almost no invesment

[fierce lark]

or the whole scaldra pack for like 700

[dense belfry]

im kinda half also deciding if i should main Azothane
though idk if its better than my other weapons

[sonic folio]

Azot what

That's a mr fodder probably

[fierce lark]

the strongest non-incarnon combo melee is probably coda caustocyst

[sonic folio]

Just buy every blueprint you can from orbiters market

And gain mastery rank

[sonic folio]

They are incarnons in their right

Lich weapons are pain to get

[fierce lark]

wut

they are by definition not incarnons lol

[dense belfry]

im more askin cuz they're a good weapon in duviri

its one of the weapons you use as drifter

[fierce lark]

if you're referring to "incarnon" as things that are annoying to get because of timegating

innodem is one of the strongest melees in game and comes with the adapter, only req is zariman

[sonic folio]

Thanks joe mama

[fierce lark]

from what i heard all of teshin's melee weapons are okay

[dense belfry]

basically:
"could be better but not terrible for newcomers"

[wide verge]

is this okay build for cedo prime?

[fierce lark]

lack of arcane aside, shotguns are the weapon class that need the 200% crit mod more than anything

blunderbuss is awful

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Critical_Deceleration

[wide verge]

if I swap blunderbus to critical deceleration is it then okay?

[green gyro]

blunderbuss is so bad

it's why cc on shotgun rivens is so low

[night laurel]

does Xata really deal extra damage to thraxes

[fierce lark]

no

[night laurel]

i feel like i deal less damage because i dont have an inf punch through weapon and the bubble ruins headshots

ahh

[fierce lark]

at least i dont believe so

im pretty sure the "void damage" that zariman take extra from is specifically "operator damage"

[night laurel]

like in theory it does deal extra damage to overguard

but in practice the magnetize bubble just feels like throwing my bullets into a bottomless pit

yes i have a hitscan gun

[midnight horizon]

But you cannot argue....

If you don't have Crit deceleration, you HAVE to use it just for the sake of it XDDDDDD

The back up

[green gyro]

no?

just get crit decel

[fierce lark]

i think im completely wrong actually,

[midnight horizon]

Oh woah

Deadass?

That's how bad it is???

[fierce lark]

xaku's void dmg and whatever other sources of it should do extra dmg to overguard and thrax, just only "operator damage" is coded to affect spectral thrax

[midnight horizon]

Ehhh fsir

I guess Blunderbuss is just there Till you get Crit Decal

[green gyro]

it's just a dead mod

like most of em tbh

[midnight horizon]

Oof fck now that you mention that... It's kinda true hahahaha

Oh how low they've fallen

[night laurel]

swear i feel like i deal more damage just running roar with the same str lol

[fierce lark]

ngl i was today years old when i learned riven stats scale off of the original mod to give the stat

shotgun rivens get barely more than half the crit stats rifles do

[green gyro]

yup

[sharp kraken]

Is there any suggestion, what should I do with unused mods?

[quiet laurel]

keep every mod until you have duplicates

and duplicates you sell for endo

[night laurel]

how important is crit decel for ksobek 💔

i'm a lazy bum

[wind sail]

hi im looking for a really good mesa build can anyone help?

[quiet laurel]

faster ttk so pretty important

[night laurel]

nooooooooooo

thanks!

[wide verge]

What is the best primary weapon?

[eternal prism]

build best

[wide verge]

phenmor?

[charred gale]

latron incarnon

[quiet laurel]

if we count synergies kuva sobek

[wide verge]

epitaph or kompressa as a secondary

[charred gale]

epitaph has more aoe with a forced cold proc, kompressa is less aoe has a delayed explosion but has innate viral which is really good for priming

oh and kompressa is better for single target status stacking

[night laurel]

life is good

life is so good and rng loves me so much

phenmor is pretty good to start with if you cba getting the incarnons yet

[eternal prism]

You're wrong, guys. The best weapon is the one you like and build

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[night laurel]

truthnuke

[thick bison]

Hmmm, how should I build status applying pet?

I'm going for Duplex Bond spamming to apply as many effects through pet

[midnight horizon]

Who have a good mirage build?

[thick tartan]

Anyone have a sp knora and nova build for farming cells/crystals

[eternal prism]

I sent khora build yesterday with whip

You can find it in my messages

[thick tartan]

Found it tysm!

[eternal prism]

anytime

[rocky mason]

Kuva tonkor

You shoot it and it goes ktch-pause-boom

And kills whatever you pointed at

[modern vale]

Sigma

[uneven current]

sone of you know where can i get an excel who said if elementalist or galva elementalist is better or not , condition overload is additif or multiplicatif ?

[eternal prism]

almost all time galv elementalist better then not excluding heavy slash builds

[uneven current]

i know but search something better than just that for exemple Syam heavy are multiplicative with CO so i want to know if some one have do an excel or something that same up that

[eternal prism]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FJ_RIEG2mlFGBQ__szeGoFM6azj23n0CqelBFO_MGGw/edit?gid=1712050902#gid=1712050902
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/edit?gid=883121879#gid=883121879
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FJ_RIEG2mlFGBQ__szeGoFM6azj23n0CqelBFO_MGGw/edit?gid=1712050902#gid=1712050902

[uneven current]

thanks ! didnt see it

[midnight horizon]

Gauss + Acceltra = Janitor Gauss

[eternal prism]

☠️

[midnight horizon]

He be cleaning those rooms like Janitor cleaning those paper in school

[eternal prism]

I only know gauss as a platform not a nuker

[midnight horizon]

Yeah..... Acceltra is his sweep

[night laurel]

people run therm sunder as pre-sp nuke

[midnight horizon]

I have Gauss going 3 in 1 buffet

[midnight horizon]

Pre SP? He is good in any SP

Ya know what

I won't confirm it

Haven't tried it in any cases yet

So I maybe just be yapping nonsense

[night laurel]

ehh i can't support my point anyway, just what i've heard

[eternal prism]

it can nuke even lvl cap with primer gun

🥺

[midnight horizon]

We are in the same boat here hahahah bother claims cannot be supported

[midnight horizon]

Do you have a supperting claim?

[eternal prism]

At least I've seen it give negative damage values

[midnight horizon]

Well tbh... Maybe

I've seen my gauss doing 2 mil and 30 mil damage in a nuke process

My Gauss is very spammyyyyy

[eternal prism]

it need primer for nuke lvl cap

otherwise it won't work

[midnight horizon]

Viral let me guess

[eternal prism]

nope. fire

[ancient skiff]

is this build good or i need to change something?

[eternal prism]

cuz it do boom if gaus cast freeze

[eternal prism]

it not bad

[midnight horizon]

Oh

Supporting the "hold twice and and tap once" to go Boom boom

[eternal prism]

yyes

[midnight horizon]

OK ok, I can see the vision

[ancient skiff]

nice thank you

[eternal prism]

i want a lot plat for my laetum...

i want riven😭

secret laetum need secret riven

[midnight horizon]

What do you like as a Riven tho if I may ask

[eternal prism]

-cc
cd multishot electro/tox

[night laurel]

i love going on the internet and lying bro

[midnight horizon]

Fair

[summer moon]

kuva-kuva xD

[midnight horizon]

I cannot do that XDD last time I did that with Uriel... I got disappointed in myself when I found out that is NOT how he works XDDDD

[eternal prism]

still didnt sell grol bo riven

i want plat😭

[midnight horizon]

Why bro whyyyyy

Give me that instead

[rocky mason]

You need buyers for that

[eternal prism]

yes...

no one needs this

[rocky mason]

I don't think god rolls worth thousands of plat will be easy to sell

That's why I just don't roll mine

[eternal prism]

In fact, bo are not expensive

even grols

[rocky mason]

The unrolled riven I got for bo went for quite a bit

[eternal prism]

it not popular and cost around 1200~ plat

for grol like electro crit attack speed

with good -

like mine...

everyone like only torid :/

[spiral chasm]

I mean 1.2k plat is fine for profit no?

Maybe look for a collector instead?

[eternal prism]

for an unpopular weapon its quite good

nami solo with grol cost 10k+plat for example

[icy urchin]

need clarification on how adaptation mod interacts with merulinas health pool on yareli cus i both see a lot of vids saying its insanely strong on her but also the wiki says it doesnt work on merulinas health pool

ah nevermind the wiki does clarify, it doesnt reduce damage to merulina itself but it reduces the rest of the damage on yareli

[craggy niche]

wait so what is the supra vandal is it good?

[analog stirrup]

Corpus projectile minigun, does funny things when paired with Mag, ok in every other situation.

[craggy niche]

so probably decent grab

[analog stirrup]

Always worth to grab something you dont have

[eternal prism]

Merulina takes 90% of the damage you take.

Using adaptation, she will receive (damage-resist)-adaptation

but there is no need for this because she already takes a lot of damage

[craggy niche]

it's definitely worth grabbing adapt if you're countin on merulina for survival

[fierce lark]

damage reduction deosn't work on merulina

[eternal prism]

so she takes damage depending on the damage the yarel takes, doesn't?

[sonic folio]

Nothing ever happens

[toxic birch]

Can you guys recommend me sevagoth prime build this is my first prime

[fierce lark]

it's a little weird

yareli takes 10% of the damage, merulina takes the other 90%

the damage that yareli takes can be reduced, but not merulina's damage

so damage reduction is more or less only 10% effective while in merulina

merulina itself isn't affected by DR other than helminth armor

[eternal prism]

soso... anyway it makes me more tanky not so bad

[errant wraith]

help please

[eternal prism]

strange mechanics

[fierce lark]

elephant out of the room rq, saryn does not have summons

[errant wraith]

can i use it at as a gun platform?

[eternal prism]

yes cuz saryn gun platform...

[wide verge]

I need smth else than sevagoth. One shotting gets boring after some time.

[eternal prism]

yes sure. u can play on any frame

[brisk wing]

I was wondering if this is even a slightly useful riven on the bassocyst, i just recently started dabbling in rivens so idk how good this is

[eternal prism]

for coda u need -

low riven synergy

[icy urchin]

its rlly weird that blue armour archon shards are the only only source of armour that works on merulina but i will in fact be using them for that reason

[fierce lark]

given merulina's base armor is 50 they will have a pretty noticeable effect

[eternal prism]

I don't think this is necessary, since merulina indirectly scales with enemy level

I still remember 500k hp merulina

[icy urchin]

yeah, personally i like building tankier with merulina guardian tho cus u kinda just get damage anyway from the augment

like u still benefit from strength a fair amount but not quite as much as loyal merulina

[eternal prism]

louyal merulina is too strong due to the str overclocking option

im use around 280 str for loyal

and it more then enough

[velvet pulsar]

And because her damage vulnerability debuffs multiply with each other for 10000% more damage.

[eternal prism]

and if im not mistake work like bane mod

[fierce lark]

eh close enough

damage vulnerability is different from banes

[icy urchin]

isnt it something like 9x damage with both bubbles at 200% strength

[velvet pulsar]

Dmg vulnerability debuff doesn't double dip DoTs

[eternal prism]

Yes, but it's the same thing and they just multiply each other

at least according to wiki

[paper isle]

Is this a good ability strength plus range build for kullervo?

[eternal prism]

Well, if youre a newbie, then yes. But if not, then its highly doubtful

[ocean fable]

can someone give me a decent crit and status build for excalibur umbras exalted blade, im outta ideas

[eternal prism]

influence

electro by augment

gas in blade

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[paper isle]

What do you think I should add to make it better

[eternal prism]

I won't say because I don't know. I haven't built it yet

But at very least, you need to remove hp mods and put augment

But if you're still a newbie and don't have sp unlocked, the build is generally fine

[fierce lark]

get the volatile recompense augment

makes him unkillable in 99.99% of scenarios

[craggy niche]

this means adaptation would take you to a 99 percent damage resist

[errant wraith]

Can I change the corpus one

[eternal prism]

yes why not

it just slot for bane

u not want use sobek if u dont use saryn cyte oraxia

it's a little... terrible

[near vortex]

The bane mod is pretty important

[fierce lark]

casually missing zephyr uriel

and sobek is fine on its own

[eternal prism]

maybe dont saw it

[eternal prism]

for oraxia and cyte yes. saryn have roar

[craggy niche]

i never run banes cuz i hate having another thing to think about lol

[errant wraith]

I’m
Using Saryn

[eternal prism]

I never change the bane even if I'm going corpus... I use only against grineer

💀

[craggy niche]

that's fair. bane's mean i can't run amalgam serration and i like thatt little sprint booost

[near vortex]

Uriel is a bit more dubious

From what I've seen buff uptime isn't excellent

[fierce lark]

user dependent, you have to go out of your way to get his buff so it's less than ideal

i run like 200% dur so it's less of an issue

i think the bigger problem is his buff is a lot weaker lol

[near vortex]

Yeah it's really weak and can't run roar

[fierce lark]

if you were playing a more dedicated platform variant it might be better, im running 280 range

[near vortex]

It's weak, can't run roar and can't make up for it with purples like Cyte does

[fierce lark]

albeit slower it does still chain react kill things

just takes 3-4 dot ticks instead of 1

and because of the way heat scales if multiple enemies die in proximity of others it stacks the funny way heat does

[craggy niche]

i don't run roar basically on anything out of principle lol

it's just lazy buildcrafting imo

[eternal prism]

use xata then

[fierce lark]

buildcrafting for weapons is inherently lazy

[craggy niche]

i doo on some stuff

[fierce lark]

there's not really an interesting way to buff weapons other than very unique or specific interactions like blast xatas

and even then, the interaction isn't doing anything special, just more damage

[eternal prism]

unluck

[craggy niche]

yes but xata's isn't the number one answer to everything.

[eternal prism]

Voruna was created for magistar and its fun

[craggy niche]

at this point i wish they'd just nerf roar into the ground and call it a day lol. it out classes everything else by a long margin for most situations

[eternal prism]

xata is actually often better than roar. like guns with projectile or it melee it it non status

Not long ago I started using float weapons and xata looks surprisingly more interesting

[fierce lark]

if you nerf roar it's gonna be xata's

if you nerf that it's gonna be eclipse

if you nerf that we're off to nourish

if you nerf that everyone's gonna lose an augment slot to shock trooper

if you turn off subsume augments then woohoo everyone's running gloom/silence again because you probably have at least 1 useless ability

[craggy niche]

honestly this is a pretty bad take

[fierce lark]

there's no sense trying to nerf the op subsumes because it's just gonna result in everyone running the next best thing until eventually everything is useless

[craggy niche]

all the other damage augments are pretty balanced

eclipse is basically adding a serration mod

[fierce lark]

eclipse is multiplicative

[craggy niche]

xata's is projectile mechanics.

[eternal prism]

They actually need to buff eclipse... otherwise even here roar wins if the weapon doesn't do status damage

[versed harbor]

nah eclipse is still multiplicative but its not faction multi

[eternal prism]

eclipse give multi damage

[fierce lark]

the reason nobody runs eclipse is because it's just worse than roar lol

[velvet pulsar]

Their argument: eclipse also gives DR

Which currently doesn't stand.

[eternal prism]

eclipse still good for sumonners...

[fierce lark]

i mean that is true, if for some reason you think you need situational DR in whatever you're doing, have at it

[versed harbor]

lowkey just delete helminth ez

[fierce lark]

eclipse doesn't work on abilities iirc

or summons/companions

[velvet pulsar]

Archon shards

[eternal prism]

work

like wukong equinox

with augment

necros 4nd also work

[versed harbor]

ye but why use total eclipse when roar exists rn

[eternal prism]

cuz u have aura

[velvet pulsar]

Because you're mirage

[versed harbor]

o u right

[eternal prism]

it like bane

[fierce lark]

okay so if you take an augment it works on companions and summons

but im like 90% sure it doesn't work on abilities

[versed harbor]

ye it doesnt

[fierce lark]

and it's still strictly worse than roar unless you're already running a faction mod

[velvet pulsar]

Summoner's Wrath

Additive to roar

[eternal prism]

but for such builds you must use this aura

[fierce lark]

or there's some mechanic in your mission that requires 75% DR periodically to stay alive

[eternal prism]

Are you saying I shouldn't have made this secret build?

[velvet pulsar]

Or exodia Contagion

[fierce lark]

im ngl

[velvet pulsar]

Coz Contagion double dips eclipse.

[fierce lark]

caliban with total eclipse might be spice

[eternal prism]

in fact, he already has enough damage lol...

[velvet pulsar]

Glaives too

[eternal prism]

107 lvl ez kill level cap enemy

[fierce lark]

we have unlimited survivability with shade, only thing left to do is add more damage

[eternal prism]

just spam 1

u never die

if u have atleast 1 shield calibans friends very fast recovery shields

[hard palm]

Which build should I run knowing that the balefire charger scales with both abil range and abil strength, and I only got normal fulmination

[eternal prism]

i use this build for test level cap. i use only equilibrium shard

This is more than enough

[fierce lark]

umbral over precision, precision doesn't buff balefire itself, just adds dmg from the extra shields (and is apparently bugged and doesn't work properly anyway)

corrosive proj over growing power, and either add primed/continuity over adaptation or drop transient for something, you need some duration so that pillage has time to expand

[hard palm]

Pillage scales with duration not range?

[fierce lark]

both, it expands over time

[eternal prism]

and range and dur

range = m per sec. dur = sec

[craggy niche]

oh shit bois

it's gdfr

[eternal prism]

lunch for helimnth

[fierce lark]

plus if you have neg duration and neg eff you're gonna bleed shields like crazy

id be worried about dying from running out of shields randomly lol

[craggy niche]

nah i'll farm another then feed it to him

citrine is hella based

from what i've seen in pubbys anyway

[eternal prism]

"farm another citrin"

[craggy niche]

it's not so bad

i just replace sedna with mirror for leveling

gotta be done either way may as well have two goals

[eternal prism]

☠️ Yes, youre right, it's awful

[craggy niche]

honestly lowk way less lame than running hydrons for the 34054 time lol

[fierce lark]

my mirror def runs are always hard carried by squad chat complaining about how much it sucks and then banter about smth else random

[craggy niche]

it's just like a hydron but you know everyone is gonna be forced to stay there and you move every 3 minutes

[astral tinsel]

I haven't run hydron in years

[craggy niche]

i have/use a ton of frames lol

constantly leveling something

eventually that will cap out but not in the forseeable

i was fine tuning my xaku, next i'm gonna go back through my ivara and set her up for concentrated arrow because that's kind of a nuke now apparently

i was using her to f around with vadarya which was fun but meh. plus when i get her up and running with concentrated she'll still be able to use vadarya anyway

how can i build around this to make the best use of this riven

[latent hedge]

If anyone has some spare mods

[grave shuttle]

Can anyone help me find new primary’s to use, I need someone that knows a lot of the neich ones bc I feel like I’ve tried all the mainstream ones

(There are some preferences)

[fierce lark]

what are said preferences

[grave shuttle]

I have 100% ammo efficiency so stuff like the tonkor doesn’t shoot off its reload speed and I can use its fire rate

(100% primary ammo efficiency)

But it’s rlly fun with all the explosive primary’s I’ve tried

Or like the soma prime with its augment, it gets 1.2% crit chance each hit you land without reloading and I don’t reload

[quiet laurel]

werent you the 200% str wisp dude

[fierce lark]

kuva bramma, kuva zarr, kuva ogris, tenet envoy

a lot of big explosive weapons with ammo issues become a lot better/more fun to use if you can abuse ammo eff

but those aren't really niche weapons

[grave shuttle]

I have all of those built w rivens

[fierce lark]

i suppose they kind of are in the sense of not being great for general use without specific setups to fix the ammo

[grave shuttle]

The lenz is also rlly fun with frostbite

[quiet laurel]

thats why cyte is the goat

[grave shuttle]

I’m using mirage

[fierce lark]

hall of mirrors ogris weeEEeEeeeE

[eternal prism]

Let's talk later, I have a lvlcap run

[green gyro]

the riven is just ass, don't use it

the -bane is really bad

[fierce lark]

cold is also really bad

messes up influence, messes up afflictions, exposure would probably still rather just have the dot from pfs

[craggy niche]

I will never be a bane user tbh

[eternal prism]

It wouldn't be so bad if he had other good stats

[eternal prism]

now u -bane user

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[craggy niche]

Just annoying having to switch. Azothane seems like kind of a waste to use as influence slop also

[eternal prism]

how much azothane have status chance?

[craggy niche]

I kinda want to build this out as a acolyte tapper, my xaku could really benefit from that among other things

[craggy niche]

Pretty sure its low status high crit

[eternal prism]

ah it 2 hunded nikana

[craggy niche]

Yeah the transference one is really cool too tho

Its got a aoe wave

[eternal prism]

Use an arcana that inflicts status effects when enemies fall to the ground

I don't remember what it's called

cus 2 hunded nikanas it always heavy slash build lol...

here no other choise

[green gyro]

??

you literally have a -bane riven equipped

[eternal prism]

he -bane user

Not like everyone else... shows strength over mobs

[green gyro]

shows strength by doing half the damage vs just not using a riven

[eternal prism]

yes

that's the point

[fierce lark]

it's not about using a bane, the riven is making you do 3/4 dmg vs grineer, ie the only faction that doesn't explode when you hit it

[craggy niche]

Its yall that are missing the point.. Last time I checked acolytes are not grineer

[craggy niche]

Base stats

[eternal prism]

im already check it

just heavy slash build lol///

btw 2 hunded nikanas stance have bad multi with co mods in heavy hit

☠️

[craggy niche]

I built the one above when I had like 40 hours in the game lol

Thats why im here looking for a build to kill acolytes

[opaque wyvern]

what do you build for equinox, i wanna build the prime variant for my drifter

[eternal prism]

and heavy build just for this reason

literally 3 bad hits for a normal combo and it take whole time

in last slot bane mod and melee afflictions or double hit if u not want bloodrush (If I'm not mistaken, there are mostly yellow crits there)

or combo mod

[green gyro]

for acolytes you don't rly have time to stack 12x

but azothane is mid for this anyway

[fierce lark]

riven with ic/tox/cd/hae/cc in the empty slot prob

[hollow plover]

gng i wanna make my broken war build more broken

[chilly geyser]

Quick question: Per hit, how does a status chance roll? Is one after the other, and the first successfull status roll will be the one applied, or are all possible status rolled, and all successfull rolls applied on hit?

[latent latch]

What's a early game panzer vulpaphyla build?

[fierce lark]

to my understanding, total status chance at 100%+ is a guaranteed status effect, with each x/100 having a new chance to roll status

the % in the status dropdown being the relative % of each status to the total

like, i dont think you can roll 3 statuses if your status chance is 150%, even if three different statuses each say 50%

but you'd have a guaranteed status with equal weighting between the three, with a 50% chance of a second status that also has an equal weighting

[hollow plover]

except the resourceful retriever and martyr symbiosis

[fierce lark]

(multiplied by multishot ofc)

[craggy niche]

How is it mid lol its got really good single target damage and high crit

Figured it would be optimal if anything

[chilly geyser]

I'm not quite sure I get it - how is the first status effect chosen then?

[green gyro]

gonna need multiple heavies and it provides no utility

[craggy niche]

Is panzer the one that supposedly doesn't die

[green gyro]

ceramic dagger or magistar are my gotos

[latent latch]

What about his claws how should they be build?

[hollow plover]

yea

[hollow plover]

early game you put whatever you can tbh

[craggy niche]

Kk im looking at citrine and need a stupid pet soon

[latent latch]

Ow okay thanks

[craggy niche]

I usually prime viral with tazicor but im really excited for citrine and her augment looks sick

[green gyro]

huras

[hollow plover]

yes he goes into larval state and flaots near your head dealing viral dmg

[fierce lark]

taking your screenshot as an example, i believe that it would take your total status chance, being 141.7%, and have one guaranteed status effect determined by the weighting (so equal chance for rad/viral, less for puncture), and then have a 41% chance to roll a second status which, if successful, would follow the same formula

[hollow plover]

what can i improve for better stats/dmg/crits

[chilly geyser]

"and have one guaranteed status effect determined by the weighting (so equal chance for rad/viral, less for puncture)," that I understood, but what I don't get is how the status get chosen on hit. Do the game do multiple rolls? First roll, Puncture and Viral are successfull, second roll, only Viral is successfull this time, so it gets applied?

[fierce lark]

ignore that

weeping wounds has more than enough sc

90 cold probably better than vicious frost tbh

[fierce lark]

you can only apply one status per "roll", they can't both be successful

[hollow plover]

what if i want like red crit spam? what should i work towards other than galvanized steel?

[fierce lark]

the way the game displays the status window is very dumb

i know there is a strong implication that you can apply multiple statuses per guaranteed status but that's not how it works, it makes sense up until you get beyond 100% status chance but after that it falls apart

you dont roll a 50% for viral then a 50% for radiation then a 41% for puncture

[eternal prism]

Well, in the build you don't need to stack 12x

[fierce lark]

you get your one guaranteed status and you roll a 41% chance for a second status, and those status effects are rolled against each other based on the damage weightings on the weapon

[fierce lark]

the point was blood rush is bad on non-stacking heavy attack builds

[brittle sleet]

Each bit of status chance up to 100% is a single roll of its own. With 150% status chance, it guarantees one status is rolled and a 50% chance of a second roll. Which status is decided for each roll is based on a roll from 1-100 divided up into your status weighting. Status chance in that screen basically means out of the statuses you're likely to roll, you can basically consider on average every other shot will proc radiation, every other shot will proc viral, and a bit less than every other shot will proc puncture

Emphasis on the on average bit

[eternal prism]

reflex give u 5x if im not mistake. it give orange crits. with big cd its fine

[fierce lark]

yeah 5x bloodrush is trash

[brittle sleet]

"On average" is all that specific window is good for

[fierce lark]

160% crit chance vs 440% lol, just run sac steel

[eternal prism]

I doubt that prissure point will give more damage

[fierce lark]

or 220% from galv steel

[chilly geyser]

That's what I'm trying to math out - in my case punc is 41.7%, rad 50% and viral 50%. What's the math behind what status is chosen specifically, especially since it goes beyond 100% here?

[fierce lark]

sac pressure/CO over it easy

[brittle sleet]

The math is just

Guaranteed one of the 3 statuses, and some chance beyond that guaranteed proc to roll another one of the 3

[fierce lark]

the math is you simplify the different status %s to a formula out of 100

so like 35/35/30

each successful status effect will roll that formula

141% status chance just means that you hit 100% for one guaranteed status, and 41% for a second status

[wide verge]

which amp is the best?

[fierce lark]

whether you roll one or two status effects per attack, each successful roll will weigh the different status weightings against each other and roll that to dtermine which status effect you get

[fierce lark]

147/547 are most common

[hollow plover]

547 for general use 177* for eidolons

[wide verge]

which one is easier to get?

Il take 547

[green gyro]

127 or 177*

phahd does nothing for eidos

[wide verge]

what items do I need? I got no idea about amps

[brittle sleet]

Think of it this way. If you have 50% status chance, you get one RNG roll to decide if you proc a status. The game rolls a second % based RNG roll to decide between your statuses. Your statuses are always a pie chart, your status chance is just how many times you get to pick something out of that pie chart.

[wide verge]

Is 547 good?

[hollow plover]

wait fr? i discussed this recently

[fierce lark]

547 is perfect for general content

[green gyro]

yes

[wide verge]

Can u tell me which parts do I need

[green gyro]

phahd literally doesn't do anything xd

127 (shraksun) is the best if you're fast

[fierce lark]

no, the foundry can lol

[green gyro]

177 (propa) is much easier but you lose a few seconds overall

[fierce lark]

or do you mean what the numbers mean

[wide verge]

foundry?

[astral tinsel]

you could use it to clear vomvalysts ig

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351250019864547350/1478647131257573387/1.418long.mp4?ex=69adc634&is=69ac74b4&hm=37a4052ff424ebb56f258f5afd41675b23470acc68fa981d9d1489b225dbeafb&

[wide verge]

I dont know tbf

[fierce lark]

x4x is phahd scaffold, xx7 is certus brace

[green gyro]

or just use propa which also does other useful things

[fierce lark]

1xx is raplak prism and 5xx is cantic prism

[green gyro]

this is what 127 can do

[wide verge]

this?

[fierce lark]

thats one of them

[green gyro]

that's 547

[wide verge]

wait which one am I gonna get then?

[fierce lark]

certus brace phahd scaffold is bis for last gasp revivals

[wide verge]

im only farming for 1

[fierce lark]

your choice between cantic or raplak prism is largely preference

[green gyro]

cantic is better for everything except eidos

[wide verge]

is the 547 good for general?

[fierce lark]

raplak is a single shot laser bullet, cantic is burst fire

[hollow plover]

gng regarding my broken war, other than the 90% cold what else should i change or try to get?

[green gyro]

raplak has lots of hit reg issues

[green gyro]

yes, this has been said many times now

[wide verge]

So I shall get it?

[green gyro]

idk bro

[wide verge]

I count as a yes

[green gyro]

you could ask the same question another couple times

[wide verge]

thanks

[green gyro]

maybe the answer will change 🤪

[fierce lark]

ive seen some people claim they can use raplak perfectly fine, maybe they only play solo

[green gyro]

yes it's a client issue

[fringe quiver]

Hey all Scott here

I want a suggestion for a good secondary weapon that compliments Yareli. Rn the best I got is Hystrx because it has high crit chance, but I want a better weapon that I wouldn’t mind investing a potato on (even if it’s not prime)

I am rank 11 and I also just finished “the war within” quest so that’s how far I’ve gotten in story rn if that helps

[eternal prism]

dual toxocyst?🍴

[fierce lark]

hello scott, may i interest you in the humble dual toxocyst

[eternal prism]

not copy me...

[fringe quiver]

Oooo lemme google

[green gyro]

ocucor fr

[fierce lark]

nah dont do that you have to wait like 4 weeks for it to be usable

[hollow plover]

i need broken broken war pls help

[eternal prism]

laetum good for clear

[fierce lark]

tenet cycron with arcane pistoleer merulina guardian goes nuclear

[wide verge]

BRO I NEED INSTRUMENT AS A STANDING?

I got 0 standing:)

[fierce lark]

lmao octavia

[eternal prism]

why not nukor

[fierce lark]

doesn't benefit from her "crit while moving" passive

because 5% base cc

[eternal prism]

it copes without this🥺

I don't know if this passive is even necessary... it's so useless

[fierce lark]

i dont have any math behind this but it's possible cycron is comparable to nukor if you remove the battery issues

[karmic badger]

My yareli gets no use cause my crit secondaries are single target lmao

[fringe quiver]

I heard of that mod (merulina guardian) but I don’t have it and I uhhh, I like using merulina like a kdrive ❤️❤️

[eternal prism]

Nucor will be better because of the huge crit

[fierce lark]

merulina guardian does that

[eternal prism]

12x with mod...

[fierce lark]

the one you're thinking of is loyal merulina

[eternal prism]

it can solo level cap without buff

[fringe quiver]

OOOO THERE ARE TWO?

[fierce lark]

so can cycron

[astral tinsel]

nukor is kinda bad for yareli

[eternal prism]

He has lower stats, so he'll obviously be worse
but for convenience purposes, cycron is better

[green gyro]

but ye lex prime incarnon is the best secondary for her I think

if you want to take advantage of her passive

[fierce lark]

how is cycron more convenient than nukor lol

[fringe quiver]

Okay so I don’t know who is meming or whatever but I got

Dual Toxocyst

on the shopping list. Any other suggestions? I don’t mind jokes but I don’t know enough about the game to know if it is one

[green gyro]

lex

[fierce lark]

they function the same way but one reloads and one uses a battery with a smaller mag

battery smaller mag is infinitely more annoying

[eternal prism]

u need incarnon for toxocyst

[eternal prism]

It has a more convenient reload

[fierce lark]

dual toxo is terrible without the incarnon adapter from steel path circuit, which won't be in for another 4.5 weeks

so yeah keep that off the list for now

[brittle sleet]

Merulina Guardian asks, what reload?

[lean tendon]

No incarnon no play

[fierce lark]

merulina guardian requires ammo eff or you actually just run out of ammo lol

[brittle sleet]

The real reason to buy Primed Pistol Ammo Mutation

[eternal prism]

can use loyal merulina and be the coolest😎

[fierce lark]

put the arcane pistoleer in the bag

you're not playing yareli to use non-secondaries anyway

[eternal prism]

take magistar and xata

and do bonk

[fringe quiver]

Dawg idk what that is

[lean tendon]

That's what make Dual Toxocyst one of the best secondaries in the game

[fierce lark]

incarnon adapter = things from steel path duviri circuit that were released for older weapons to "evolve" into a different form, making them vastly stronger

[eternal prism]

I'm playing. Today with latron and magister to level cap

[green gyro]

slam yareli??

[hollow plover]

35k to 50k

[green gyro]

put this man in bonk jail

[eternal prism]

yes☠️

[hollow plover]

next what should i try changing

[fierce lark]

dual toxocyst goes from random MR fodder dojo weapon to the strongest secondary in the game with the incarnon

[eternal prism]

nope i do bonk

[fierce lark]

overwhelming laetum yareli 🤔

[eternal prism]

im also was with it

[fringe quiver]

Ah so I’m not even close to that rn

[green gyro]

overwhelming is better anyway

[eternal prism]

but I didn't like how he kills the demolishers lol

[karmic badger]

Coda torxica is an alternative to the dual toxocyst

[fierce lark]

well you have plenty of time to get there cause it wont be out for like 4 weeks lol