builds-discussion

[near vortex]

Actual hell

[tepid scaffold]

Eh I haven't had the need to run that on vauban

Too slow, and every level cap mode requires high mobility for the most part

[midnight horizon]

It's just lazy shield

[acoustic bluff]

Beta sevagoth nuker vs the humble revenant bramma

[tepid scaffold]

Seva wins hands down

[midnight horizon]

Ehhh ya sure I'll agree, but still be able to clean them off the map tho

[midnight horizon]

Seva for sure

Revenant is only an immortal who can eat chunks of every lives

[acoustic bluff]

You haven’t seen ball

Hunkpain knows ball corpse

[midnight horizon]

I've seen balls everywhere

I'm contended with Vauban and Cedo... So I'm good hehehe

[wild rune]

I always forget about persistence on oraxia
all that health for nothing without it

[quartz bridge]

Alright im back for another round of: how bad is my build? This time its a sporelacer haymaker splat kitgun, and no i dont use the battery arcane bc it recharges my ammo too slow for my liking

[eternal prism]

I don't know much about kitguns, but either change the arcana or remove the CC mod

[wild rune]

so you choose a residual arcane instead which serves zero purpose even with a theorem arcane because the combination is just so incredibly weak that Nekros is the only one who can use it?
odd take but I respect it

Enervate serves little function with the already great crit chance, Merciless is better in every way at that point

[quartz bridge]

Its better than nothing ngl

[wild rune]

I mean it's literally nothing if a Theorem Arcane is not present on your frame

[eternal prism]

Cute outburst

[wild rune]

I always forget about outburst, oops

sporelacer outburst is a fun one

[eternal prism]

In any case, I would also advise removing the fire mod
And use the turon arcana

If you are aiming for greater build efficiency

[quartz bridge]

Why remove heated charge?

Its getting buffed by viral so....

[eternal prism]

Zid-An Uskos

[wild rune]

tauron strike arcane that gives heat damage

[eternal prism]

At the moment, if you want more impact from a secondary weapon, you don't use a fire mod

You have an extra slot freed up

[quartz bridge]

And? That requires operator kills which in most missions is a very long build up time slot

[wild rune]

click void strike and win

[quartz bridge]

I use zenurik

[eternal prism]

You almost always go on missions that can take 10+ minutes. For quick missions like capture, there's a more convenient weapon pool.

[wild rune]

if only wellspring was useful

I remember those days

[eternal prism]

Just kill some mobs from operator. Even 40% be enough

Cus u can use another mod in your weapon

[dapper glen]

but any advice how to play volt ? i admit i dont really understand how it work

[eternal prism]

This will either give the same damage or more

[quartz bridge]

Yeah but what could I put in its place?

[eternal prism]

Magnet mod for example

Crit + another status

[fierce lark]

weapon platform or nuke?

[quartz bridge]

So yall are basically telling me that I should suck it up and use madurai and uksos instead of zenurik which allows me to actually have some energy regen?

[eternal prism]

Nah. U nod need madurai

[novel bear]

Operator kills are easy now with moddable amps

[eternal prism]

Tauron give u damage

[novel bear]

Just alt fire with x4x

[dapper glen]

Explain both

[fierce lark]

something something put the osbek in the bag

[eternal prism]

Now any school can kill with at least steel path

[novel bear]

Don’t need madurai outside of endurance

[fierce lark]

weapons platform is mid-high duration high strength with shock trooper augment

0 regard for range and can drop efficiency

[novel bear]

And wrathful advance over 3 usually

[eternal prism]

Even in cascade u not need madurai anymore

[quartz bridge]

Ok ok so if thats the case... what kind of tauron mods should I use?

[eternal prism]

All damage

There isn't much choice there

[fierce lark]

and playstyle is just using buffs (hold 1, cast 2, cast 3 and carry it around, optional subsume a buff over 4)

[quartz bridge]

Like what kind of dmg?

[eternal prism]

Multishot crit fire rate

[fierce lark]

nuke is high range high strength and at least neutral eff, you can use capacitance to generate shields with 4 or just shield gate, and you use 4 to blow up enemies in a 50+ yard radius

[eternal prism]

And etc

[quartz bridge]

Whats your setup then?

[dapper glen]

Ok thanks

[eternal prism]

i cant show u cuz use ru client 🥺

[fierce lark]

if you're doing meleevolt

or wrathful can go over 4 it rly doesn't matter, there's no reason to press discharge ever on a weapon build

[quartz bridge]

🫂

[novel bear]

Shields

[fierce lark]

iirc elec shield works on some melee projectiles like waves

[quartz bridge]

Anyone else offering their tauron mod setup?

[fierce lark]

just doesn't work on glaives or zaws

i think

[eternal prism]

i can show u only like that

[novel bear]

Warfans, syam, and some shields benefit

[fierce lark]

it's just the ones that give damage, crit, multishot, fire rate/eff and the 5th one is honestly flexible, you can do status if you have the heat conversion amp arcane, hok-kaal for the amp burst damage every 5s if you can remember to tap void mode

i have the tauron strike initial charge on mine but i don't use uskos so the amp damage is w/e

[novel bear]

Syam’s the only one I’d bother with

[fierce lark]

no cdagger?

[novel bear]

Doesn’t list daggers

Gunblades benefit

Corufell is good

[eternal prism]

secret level cap stropha?

[fierce lark]

it says "projectile based melee attacks" and lists a few examples

so im gonna assume it includes ceramic dagger and innodem

[mighty flare]

Crit sporelacer doesn’t run enervate or elementalist, fortifier/flare then hornet strike/magnetic might are your options instead

[quartz bridge]

So replace elementalist with might?

[mighty flare]

Yea

Flare + might

[sacred moon]

is there a reson why i can't equip the umbral set?

like i can equip the mods but they dont work as a set

nvm they work now for some reason

[dusty saddle]

Here's my stealth build for Ivara, I can stay invisible for a long time. it's especcially useful for open world areas for fishing and minning.

[craggy niche]

anyone here do a sol gate wisp with cataclysmic?

[craggy niche]

you could probably get rid of streamline and still have the same energy draw

it bottoms out at .25/s

[analog patrol]

as a returning player, trying to learn from scratch, where can i find great builds that are new player friendly??

[eternal prism]

just do it yourself

otherwise, there is no ideal build anywhere

[analog patrol]

I’m struggling to beat mobs that are level 50+, you got any tips ?

[eternal prism]

It's hard to give just advice... since this is a fairly broad topic. I can only say that red crits don't always = damage

And don't add identical mods. For example, two mods that give you cc or multishot will often give you less than any mod with a different stat
I also advise you to figure out how to use co mods
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic)

[analog patrol]

Thanks that actually helped, I’ll do some changes to my mods.

[cerulean rune]

Sunika for Citrine Mecha set, is the best I can do for his claws ?

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a good Nekros build i can use for farming on the steel path?

[eternal prism]

Replace any strength mod with an augment if u need

build should also perform well at level cap

[hollow scarab]

total eclipse and not shield of shadows?

and what did you put eclipse over cuz thats not shown lol

[eternal prism]

1

skill 4 is a good aggro generator, so you don't take damage as often.

and the 2nd one, on the contrary, scares the enemies and they generally won't shoot at you

[random prawn]

opinions?

using vazarin to help me survive

and dethcube for more energy

[eternal prism]

this build comfortable for you? Do you spam abilities?

[random prawn]

yeah

[eternal prism]

rolling guard in trash then

[random prawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851234086198706257/1360028037462102086/IMG_4045.gif

[eternal prism]

swap energize

[random prawn]

what should I replace energize with

[eternal prism]

use equilibrium

[random prawn]

ok

[eternal prism]

duration arcane for example

There are many options. Choose based on your preferences

u can use arcahna

for 2st skill

(if im not mistake)

(In general, I really like parkour arcana)

[random prawn]

Bro why did DE make it that when you use silence, it feels like you got water in your ear.

[eternal prism]

I don't know, I honestly don't use this skill

[random prawn]

asmr

[pure kiln]

enervate vs encumber for the kuva nukor? my encumber is r5 but i only have an r2 enervate

[mighty flare]

for damage, enervate
for priming, encumber

[hollow scarab]

magnetic coda hema (for now) any tips to make this better? tryna use it as my oraxia's "smg"

[random prawn]

You got any meat left?

[eternal prism]

u can copypast. if u have nurish u can use corrosive

[mighty flare]

using a primed elemental mod with magnetic progen would be better

[lucid flint]

I think before the Vauban rework I used a similar silence build where I helminthed over the satellite cannon. But I made strength my dump stat because the flechette still scaled well no matter what and just used weapons if I really had an issue.

[mighty flare]

plenty

[lucid flint]

But I see you using tesla bank so that doesn’t work

[eternal prism]

This build has more statuses than the standard build cuz i use uskos

This basically kills the lvl cap just by looking at it

[gilded spoke]

Just pinging this for whoever wanted to mention anything as I’m gathering criticism for my potential admission to a HIGH RANKING LR GROUP based here in Germany

Also PLEASE PING ME I have DND on for privacy reasons

[fierce lark]

im not sure what “high ranking LR group” is supposed to entail exactly, or what the admission “criteria” would be

but if it’s some like weird elitist group, chroma probably shouldn’t be seen anywhere other than credit farms

play like saryn or harrow or mirage if you want a dumb op gunframe to take to this supposed high ranking group

or cyte

everyone loves bs resupply

[gilded spoke]

It’s a group called the Howitzers here in central Germany who specialize in bringing old frames into the meta through both experience and a deep personal link to warframes. My mom who’s an LR5 referred me to them

They caught wind of what I did to chroma and from how mama said it they are extremely curious

So I’m gathering things like how many variations it took to get to the current set up, how much time it took, how much negative criticism to counter proving gameplay the build received.

How much effort or materials went into the build, how I came to make the frame I use my main frame, how it performs in different environments like survivals cascades floods interceptions (that’s a big one)

[fierce lark]

meta is a pretty loose term to throw around, outside of optimized farms it honestly doesn’t matter what you bring into your missions, everything can do everything

[gilded spoke]

Their way of saying meta is putting EVERYTHING at a fair fight

[lean tendon]

that's just warframe already

[gilded spoke]

Optimized a farming frame build? Let’s put it to the test in an intercept

Found a funny glass cannon? Throw it with an afk frame and see what happens

[fierce lark]

no like, a team comp optimized to do arbis in a way which maximizes VE/h

or maximizes the speed in which you do bounties

[gilded spoke]

They stripped that down and put it into sections

There is just so much detail put into the whole thing that some people who join their team have already gotten go LR2-4 before being accepted

[fierce lark]

there is a physical limitation on what frames can do that is going to make them do certain things worse than others

every frame can do every thing, but it will never be a “fair fight”

with other frames

[gilded spoke]

They deem a fair fight at what stress point a frame NEEDS to be changed

Or HAS to be aided by another frame in some capacity

Im currently doing a plastid farm recording to send to ChlauraPrime (the second in command) as they are a four year chroma main and wanna see what I’ve done with him 🥰

They also don’t use discord

It’s all text based and they even offer to pay for international call fees

[fierce lark]

what chroma needs is DE to look at him so that he isn’t just a walking credit booster

god chroma sucks

[gilded spoke]

If you would look over my build you’ll see that the reason he isn’t being looked at is because he works with ANYTHING but his scream

If they would change how his scream works or just rework it (and touch up on Ward a bit) entirely he would be soaring up in the pickings

And maybe do a tiny tweak to effigy to make it grant you a portion of all of what Ward does for a brief period of time once it gets a kill

And to make it roam around with you like a companion does and act as a second mind for him

But that’s just my hopes and dreams for him, I see him being a walking Penance Stare with a taxidermy pet to be really funny

[modern yoke]

I need help making a Cetus Only Pre-Phahd Amp for Eidolon Hunting

[night laurel]

idk if x2x is still viable but 12x i guess? do you have amp mods

the last x is for a Cetus crit brace but i forgot which one gives the best crit

like the one analogous to xx7

take this with a grain of salt bc i come from a time when x2x is sought after bc the plasmor blast has inf punch through and would hit it multiple times

[modern yoke]

Unfortunately, I don't even have a single Amp Mod

[midnight horizon]

Any of you have Voruna Builds?

[mighty flare]

123 works ok, but any built amp will be better than base mote

which would be raplak + shraksun + lohrin

[summer moon]

i can help you later to kill some hydrolists

[modern yoke]

So... That doesn't work for me right now... Because Lohrin needs a higher Rank...

[mighty flare]

you only have up to 2 unlocked? just pick whatever then

[modern yoke]

Yeah... Need more Eidolon Shards...

[mighty flare]

yeah then just pick whichever brace you can afford rn
not important choice if you dont even have tier-3s unlocked

[modern yoke]

Alright, so I guess I'll just go with more Ammo

[green gyro]

123

[primal halo]

any1 got a build for dual coda torxica

[midnight horizon]

Budget build

This build works for most enemies hahahah

[primal halo]

i think you sent the wrong one

[midnight horizon]

Oh no sorry, it's meant for Voruna, for the people who taught me the buikd

Sorry if it toupled yours

[eternal prism]

secret voruna

[primal halo]

nah all good, just looking for a weapon build for the torxica

[midnight horizon]

It's the budget build

Give me a break hahahah

[eternal prism]

secret sevagoth

[midnight horizon]

That's my build before

[eternal prism]

I would optimize it. But I'm too lazy to spend shards on it

🥺

[midnight horizon]

Hahahaha

[warped eagle]

Is thsi good?

Im new here

[grim olive]

Hema can allow wisp to use archon intensify right?

[eternal prism]

nope If riven isn't for a popular weapon and isn't strong, you should definitely have 3 pluses and 1 minus

[lean tendon]

AX-52 is a popular weapon outside of "meta" d riding but it only has a 0.8x disposition so you need a god roll to make it worthwhile. As for the stats you have shown, it's definitely not good.

[onyx quail]

THANKS MAN

[night laurel]

i need a +160% tox and cold riven for the AX as a bootleg Biotic Rounds smfh

[green gyro]

no, as the other guy said you need a negative and at least 2 useful stats or it's essentially just trash price

[fierce lark]

at the very least, AX has 1 slot taken up by an augment, so if you can get good stats id say a riven is pretty high value despite the low disp

though my point is slightly underminded by the augment saving 2 slots of viral

toxin/elec/fr/pt/cc/cd are all pretty good stats to have on it

corrosive riven would be spicy

[cold burrow]

Anyone got a commitment voruna build. Likely utilizing her 4th to any extent

[green gyro]

I think cd ms tox -p is the only roll that's really worth it tbh

[fierce lark]

elec and tox are the same value, gun rly wants corrosive and actual elemental dmg is whocares anyways 300% comes from aug

ive tried corrocold, pure corro with pshred and pure corro with serration and corro shred always felt best

(also tried gscope deadhead but meh)

[glossy mauve]

do i need to put archon shards, arcanes for my titania to be able to be usable (usable meaning not runing out of energy ever 5 seconds) and also at be able to do lvl 100 bounties?

[noble linden]

Does anyone have any good budget builds for a rank 12 Lavos prime?

[cunning sierra]

hello would a Baruuk Elude/Neutron Star (nova subsume + augment) build with 200% range technically be immortal granted an energy source was supplied ?

(the wiki doesn't specify anything about casting abilities interrupting elude)

[midnight horizon]

Yo saryn

. Have you used The Wolf Mommy before?

Damn everyone is gone

[brazen berry]

need help building gara, my nuke is tickling the enemies

[fierce lark]

if you mean voruna, no

[midnight horizon]

Aww

[midnight horizon]

Do you know how to nuke first?

Like do you know how it works?

[brazen berry]

Use 4 and cast 1 when I'm outside the ring, right?

[fierce lark]

gara nuke is invert press/hold and spam 1

[midnight horizon]

Gara's nuke is not the same like Sevagoth, Vauban's and other nukes you see

[fierce lark]

with 280 range

[brazen berry]

Wait you can hold 1?

[fierce lark]

yes, it does a sweep instead of a stab

[midnight horizon]

You need the 2 active though right? For that additional damage storm damage

[fierce lark]

can’t go vertical but swipes the entire screen in front of you

[fierce lark]

no, shattered lash is so strong it can 1shot virtually anything that isn’t a boss

[midnight horizon]

Yes... You need 4 then hold 1 to make a sweep attack than stab

[midnight horizon]

I usually have it on and it's just makes it so powerful hahahahaha

[fierce lark]

2 4 1 is a big aoe nuke but it’s honestly not doing anything lash can’t do by itself

besides hitting enemies behind you i guess

[midnight horizon]

Ah yes I knew it! 2 was a bit of a need (not always but a bit of a need)

[fierce lark]

let me log into companion

[brazen berry]

Its weird

[midnight horizon]

So you need 2 active (it's like... Not needed but it's a big AOE that shatters everyone in sight

4 for that sweet claim of domaun

Then slash it by holding 1 or inverting 1 in the settings

And enjoy the glass shard shattering

[brazen berry]

When I use 1 on the ring from outside it doesn't do much damage unless I hit them directly with the 1

[midnight horizon]

Don't use it from the outside, you need it from the inside

Hold 1 after 4

2 4 1

Thats the usual combo for a sure hit

[brazen berry]

Do I hit the enemies or the ring?

[midnight horizon]

Just whatever, the ring, the enemies, or both

The importance is you shatter the ring

Shattered Storm is the name of the nuke (or smth I just named) reason why bc of her aug

[brazen berry]

I figured it out

[midnight horizon]

There ya go

Congrats Tenno

[brazen berry]

Can't one shot overguard enemies but once it's gone it's gg

[fierce lark]

my god this is a pain in the ass

(melee arcane is afflictions)

archon stretch is a remnant from when i used influence

[midnight horizon]

You can actually

Again... 2 4 1

The 2 from the 4 just shatter and stayed long and shred anyone

[fierce lark]

i switched to gas afflictions because 6mil dot gas clouds

[brazen berry]

I tried but I can't

[midnight horizon]

It'll work fine

[midnight horizon]

Woah Woah deadass????

[fierce lark]

violet shards help

but yeah lash hurts

[brazen berry]

Lemme try gas build

[fierce lark]

the afflictions part is pretty important

[noble linden]

Anyone got any budget builds for a rank lvl 12 Lavos prime?

[regal shore]

in terms of builds for URIEL, is it worth to keep this setup OR do I take out primed flow, forma the cunning drift, move augur reach into the place of primed flow (which was taken out) and then have enough space and 1 slot left for Transient Fortitude so I can hit 308% ability strength? of course it will also slightly reduce duration

(this is without archon shards installed) ty in advance for help, just reply or @ me so i can see

I am not sure which one would be more worth it, although with 45% effiency, 150 energy max might be dookie, but because of URIEL 2nd and helios prime, there is a lot of energy orb drops

[regal shore]

i can make up for the ability duration lost, with archon shards but im just not sure

[waxen spire]

Should I put Incarnon on Burston??

[regal shore]

the question is why wouldnt you

[waxen spire]

Idk bro, like idk much about that weapon and I saw is OP and thats why im asking

[lean tendon]

Regular Burston?

[waxen spire]

Prime

[lean tendon]

Yeah ofc

[regal shore]

id say hell yeah, do it

[waxen spire]

Alr guys, ty

[regal shore]

i think its never a bad idea to invest in something, especially if you enjoy it

[lean tendon]

Burston Prime Incarnon is like one of the meta weapons

[waxen spire]

Oh damn

I will do it then xD

[lean tendon]

Riven disposition high + incarnon effect OP

[waxen spire]

Do u have a build for it?

[lean tendon]

I don't use it xd

I mostly play Nataruk and exalted weapons

And archguns recently

[waxen spire]

I see i see, ty anyway

[lean tendon]

It's a popular weapon so you can just search in yt or overframe and you'll most likely see updated builds

[waxen spire]

Alr bro ty

[loud echo]

Is there any bread and butter build for the vulpaphyla's claw?

[onyx rose]

acceltra prime is good right? is it like decent or top meta?

[fathom gyro]

Acceltra suffers from bad ammo economy. It's a good gun but falls off.

[nova pendant]

Is there any early game build for mag
Like MR 4 or 5

[regal shore]

i dont personally use it, but i can relate to the ammo problems of it, primary crux (arcane mod) might help with that

[onyx rose]

damn even with an ammo mod in the extra slot (not arcane, the ones with the arrow on top) its that bad huh?

[regal shore]

im not sure myself, so id personally try testing it with both

just run like a 15 minute survival mission, on steel path if you can, it usually is a good test for a weapons potential and its ammo effiency

efficiency*

you can try with either one or both, and see which one is better

[onyx rose]

ty man

[regal shore]

np

[eternal prism]

This is definitely not meta. Maybe a good weapon or something like that

[eternal prism]

Just install some survival mods

hp shields... energy or etc

cd shields... u not need more honestly

[swift ore]

Hi all, im trying to test builds in similarcrum, currently using 20x techrot babau eximus @ lvl 210, but they die too quick to get anything meaningfull from it, what unit should i be using?

[eternal prism]

not the best kind of damage test
It's better to just put greenier because they fill 90% of the game
If your build kills them, it will probably kill everything else the same way

They are of course a bit thinner than the babau. But tell me, how often do you fight them?

[dense belfry]

any way i could prob make my broken war better? (besides primed mods n whatnot cuz i dont have steel path yet)

[eternal prism]

slash mod not give u slash damage

and u not need magnet also on melee

[dense belfry]

its for attack speed

[eternal prism]

I would start with a complete revision of the build

[dense belfry]

the faster i can get hte combo up the sooner i can hit heavy attack

[eternal prism]

u already have atack speed mod

[dense belfry]

yes
why not have more

[eternal prism]

cuz u can put more useful mods

like range

[dense belfry]

range isint really necessary?

sure it makes hitting drones easier
but lemme just jump

[eternal prism]

u have 2.5 range with mod it 5.5

[dense belfry]

i do need to slap a melee arcane on it but thats why im 1999 right now

....not 5.5

[eternal prism]

I would recommend checking out the current melee weapon builds, there are basically two of them now

[eternal prism]

u not have prime version

[eternal prism]

Since I've never picked up this type of weapon before, I can't tell you what would be best to use it with. But I can assume that it's just a light build.

[dense belfry]

again, i dont have steel path.

im planning to have at the very least a entry level weapon to steel path so i can have a fighting chance.

[eternal prism]

if it realy light build just copy

[dense belfry]

wow you really dont know what its like for a new player

the only one i have there is galvanized elementalist

and steel

[eternal prism]

I know what it is, but now there are just cheap analogues of mods for you

[dense belfry]

but thats because of a friend giving it thats it

how the hell do i get the amalgom stuff anyway

[eternal prism]

Just replace them with similar ones. I'm more than sure that you have them

[dense belfry]

you'd be surprised

because again
ive not a CLUE what those mods are besides the galvanized stuff

[left mason]

Quick question about Mirage Clones, how do they react to incarnon modes of weapons?

[eternal prism]

It's not necessary because it simply gives a little more QOL in exchange for a small percentage of crit

[eternal prism]

use it the same way as you do

[left mason]

Ohh, that's... really nice

[eternal prism]

In any case, now you can just use cheap analogues. All these mods are very easy to get

[dense belfry]

not a clue what to do in thermia fractures

[eternal prism]

or at least cheap analogues

google it. very ez and often event

u can just put not amalgam organ shatter

no diference

[regal shore]

Anyone able to give an opinion on this?

[night laurel]

ropalollyst fight and tjermia fracturss i tjink?

Thermia fractures you first get a coolant canister from the coolant raknoids following exploiter orb near the temple of profit

take the canister to a fracture

put it in, and defend it

rinse and repeat 4x

in groups you can put in a max of 4 canisters to instantly get a diluted thermia after defense (it counts as doing it 4x)

[regal shore]

If you go to the events tab and just hover over the thermia fracture event, you can see the rewards for it and those rewards being amalgam mods

Just rinse and repeat until you get enough points to get all of them

[eternal prism]

(u not need a lot str for uriel)

[warm obsidian]

Thoughts?

Will be replacing Infected and Cryo with Malignant Force and Rime Rounds

And will definitely use Forma

[eternal prism]

200 more then enought

[regal shore]

I do, I'm aware of that, however I'm wondering if it's worth sacrificing energy and duration for it

I have over 300 with molt augmented

[eternal prism]

use flow and 1 purple shard like

[regal shore]

And with transient fortitude plus archons, I'd be hitting 400

[regal shore]

Okay okay

[eternal prism]

No, it's not worth it because 200 strength is enough to kill lvlcaps

[regal shore]

Good to know

[eternal prism]

I recommend focusing more on duration and zone

[regal shore]

Range is 190, that seems to be good

[eternal prism]

I still haven't tested it enough, so I can't tell you how to optimally select stats

[regal shore]

I'll keep it with flow then

Yeah DW

Just wanted to ask before I invest more forma into him

[eternal prism]

u can copypast. 3 forma here

[regal shore]

Btw growing power or the projection thingy for less armour?

I've seen it with both

[regal shore]

Waaait whaaaat, not archon intensify?

[eternal prism]

it give u double proc fire

[knotty halo]

So I'm working with making Vallyr Prime, and I'm getting the claws from the Tenno lab for now, but what weapon should I invest in for her? I'm actively only Mastery Rank 8

[regal shore]

This build definitely focuses more on range rather than strength

[eternal prism]

I wouldn't use the first option. It's not convenient.

[eternal prism]

u mean valkyre right?

[knotty halo]

Yes

[regal shore]

I'm gonna have to see for myself, this 280 range build kinda made me question it

[eternal prism]

Replace the first skill at the first opportunity. if u not have battery swap umbra to flow

You can use some cheap mod options

[knotty halo]

Ya I don't have much of these, getting Galvanized won't be a issue, Primed I think void man is today, and some of the others I have to look how to get.

Eternal War is a different faction that I picked unfortunately, so I'll have to get that later when I switch factions

[eternal prism]

it cost 10p

for each augment

You don't need any weapons for a valk also. Her claws easily hit level cap

[knotty halo]

😮 I get to be wolverine 24/7 then!

[eternal prism]

yes... maybe

until the first such opponent...

[knotty halo]

So then I should invest in a good melee weapon for such opponent...

[regal shore]

Or a good primary weapon

[eternal prism]

it off your 2 and 4 skill

[knotty halo]

I have the uh, infinite ammo bow

[eternal prism]

u need only primary or sec weapon... or not go to apollo

[knotty halo]

Can't remember the name of the bow sadly.

[eternal prism]

Without stacking combos or arcana, I almost got a one-shot on the fattest demolisher. Its worth considering. (fattest demolisher have 50m hp)

[knotty halo]

._. I will become the most deadly melee fighter of my group!

[eternal prism]

u can try also gara...she has slightly fewer problems than valkyrie for the damage cost

But she has a 30 meter spam area for her 1st skill. and also can solo level cap

I find it a little more convenient to use

[knotty halo]

Also when you say replace her first skill, you mean with the swarm room chair thingy?

[eternal prism]

something like that
helminth

i use ophanim eyes cuz it just convenient
and I don't know what else I can use... because she already has more than enough damage

[knotty halo]

Ya I'm having difficulty unlocking Helminth for some reason, but im trying. Just can't seem to get points for buying the things I need.

So look for Ophanim for the first ability?

[eternal prism]

You don't have to strive for this right now. You won't lose much without replacing the first skill

[eternal prism]

Honestly, I don't know. It depends on what you need more. But essentially, she doesn't need anything

I use it for additional control and armor strip

[dense belfry]

this is very helpful

[regal shore]

Also don't get lost in the "I need this and I need that" like you don't need to minmax your frame yet especially if you are unable to, realistically I'm sure you're not doing level cap content and you can still make her pretty strong

[dense belfry]

also seems i got 9 points for doing one by myself

[eternal prism]

If you don't focus on level cap content, almost any build will be playable

[dense belfry]

i take it, this can be done much faster with a squad helping?

[eternal prism]

I make builds based on it, so they may not be very convenient for some people. In particular, I use vazarin to optimize the builds

[eternal prism]

if disruption yes

cuz here broken spawnrate

[regal shore]

Exactly

[eternal prism]

if cascade only partially

[eternal prism]

But I would only take a duo here and only the one who can stand a little afk to test builds without buffs if the ally has any

[deep grotto]

Nataruk

[eternal prism]

I go solo more often... but of course this process is delayed because of this

[knotty halo]

So, with my whole build so far

Frame: Prime Valk
Primary: Nataruk
Secondary: ???
Melee: ???

[eternal prism]

u can use what u like

doesnt matter

if u wanna use valk most likely you won't use anything

You can probably get a praedos for more parkour velocity

[midnight horizon]

For valk....

Melee is her claws....

[regal shore]

As step by step said, also I personally don't use secondaries

Choose whatever

[lean tendon]

if you are using Valkyr then chances are you are 99% using your exalted and nothing else

[green solstice]

its obvious that the right one is the better choice

[versed harbor]

tbh left was better here but u could use right

cinta has pretty nice riven dispo so u can get away with alot of diff rolls

[green solstice]

yea before FR and damage basically combine 2 mods in one, but other one it needs some tinkering

[pallid quiver]

Persistence rage battery Valkyr

How do people get their base health pools into the 10,000s anyways

[midnight horizon]

Full ranked Umbra set plus other health mods

[rocky mason]

I honestly don't even use persistence on valkyr

She can tank without it

[pallid quiver]

Rage battery

Makes easier

[midnight horizon]

Woah.... What's that mod

[midnight crown]

Guys, does roar buff abilities dmg?

[pallid quiver]

Rage

[midnight horizon]

Yes

[pallid quiver]

When no shields any damage on u procs rage

[midnight horizon]

Ohhhhh

Tbh I want a high durstion build for Gauss

[midnight crown]

Oh okay, tysm

[midnight horizon]

Np kiddo

[rocky mason]

No like

You're already taking damage to health without persistence

Only use case is having allies that give you overguard

[pallid quiver]

Persistence just makes the energy gain from damage more consistent, no waiting out shield gating or getting through shields

[rocky mason]

But solo you can proc rage (or hunter adrenaline) without persistence reliably

[fierce lark]

diriga synth equilibrium to solve your energy needs

[coral crest]

It buffs ALL dmg

From abilites to status on your weapons

[eternal prism]

for status it double dip*

[lean tendon]

it acts like a faction bonus damage

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-seinfeld-george-costanza-just-take1dip-and-end-it-1dip-gif-24674349

[velvet pulsar]

You're unidentifiable.

Now please, also become a flying object.

[fierce lark]

are you telling them to f off

by saying "become FO"

[velvet pulsar]

I already mentioned "unidentifiable"

Add a "U" ahead it

[fierce lark]

yeah, U f off

[velvet pulsar]

Much better.

[fierce lark]

i hate when every swear up to 'shit' is perfectly okay but a line is drawn at the f word

like what is the difference lmao

[velvet pulsar]

Look who fell for the oldest trick in the book: (out of context)

[fierce lark]

thats not even out of context thats just me

[velvet pulsar]

[fierce lark]

im newfie, i love swearing

im convinced 80% of what i say is taken way worse than intended because of how much i swear

[velvet pulsar]

I'm very sure the names of Tauron mods are also swear words said by a drunk.

While the tauron arcanes are from some cult.

[fierce lark]

hok-kaal

[waxen spire]

Can someone someone share a Wisp support for buffing weapons build please?

[eternal prism]

for solo buff or for team?

[rancid oriole]

anyone got vauban prime build?? with his augment prefered

[waxen spire]

Solo buff

For my weapon or even team if is better

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-running-past-gif-3044631603201692058

[eternal prism]

I posted a build for Wisp somewhere in this chat not long ago. You can search for it by filtering through my messages.

[undone dust]

filtered for bro (i assume its this one)

[waxen spire]

This one?

[waxen spire]

Ty bro

[craggy niche]

Np

[eternal prism]

Yes.If you want, you can change the characteristics to suit your needs.

[undone dust]

ophanim is definitely a choice

kinda baller though

[waxen spire]

Ok ty

[craggy niche]

Its honestly not horrible when you got like 400 plus strength lpl

[eternal prism]

By using this amount you sacrifice convenience.

[undone dust]

id probably say any other strip would probably be better because of ophanim's high str requirement but the extra cc from is it always nice

[eternal prism]

You don't really need that much

[undone dust]

convenience is for nerds trust

[craggy niche]

Lol no

This wisp is about as easy to play as it comes

[quiet laurel]

100 energy gain per whenever

[craggy niche]

Wisp wants strength and alot of it

[eternal prism]

Wisp is easy to play because she's invisible.

[eternal prism]

Why if everything dies even at 200?

[undone dust]

@eternal prism how long is your crit surge duration sitting at with your setup

[craggy niche]

It dies less well

[eternal prism]

For hp?Why bother if you can avoid taking damage?

[eternal prism]

If I'm not mistaken, about 15 seconds, but I rarely used it because I almost had a grol on the latron

I had too much damage to want an extra crit chance.

[undone dust]

god i wish the base duration on it was better
it's the same boat with teeming on nidus

love both mods but they have awful duration scaling

[eternal prism]

Well, it's still not that big of an increase in critical chance...

So this is generally not necessary. Usually the map is cleared thanks to 3

[undone dust]

250% is definitely nice
do wish it was buffed by strength though

teeming has that over c. surge

[quiet laurel]

nothing in this game is necessary

[eternal prism]

Aura can increase critical chance for 3 skills

[eternal prism]

Only convenience matters

[quiet laurel]

but more strength means higher fire rate and movement speed, which means faster ttk and getting to enemies faster

which in return means more efficiency

and efficiency is what this game is about

[eternal prism]

Don't your enemies die in 1 second without buffs?

[quiet laurel]

it depends on the weapon

why wouldnt you str max on wisp though

[undone dust]

3? im pretty sure surge is the only one of her abilities that is affected by cc

[eternal prism]

Wisp has a 3rd skill

[quiet laurel]

like wisp wants str and maybe stretch for breach surge

[craggy niche]

Yeah which also benefits for strength

[undone dust]

you said "skills" so i assumed you meant plural

[craggy niche]

Lol there is no valid argument to be had against having strength on wisp

[quiet laurel]

primed continuity is enough for duration tbh and you dont need to mod for survivability cause you have invis and invuln in your kit

[eternal prism]

I haven't seen any problems clearing the map even with a small amount of str

[quiet laurel]

rest is just strength

and energy econ

[craggy niche]

Yes but your buffs are terrible

[eternal prism]

I have a wyrm that does the same thing to me. Wisp flowers aren't a cure-all.

[craggy niche]

At 200 str thats barely any noticeable buffs to anything you're just using her for invis and invulnerable at that point and leaning on op weapons to carry you

[eternal prism]

I can make a 3rd skill with a large radius at the expense of strength

And I'm generally okay with that.

[craggy niche]

There is 0 reason to have high range on breach surge lol

150 is like 2 tiles on a mote tele

[quiet laurel]

casting breach surge usually is a waste of time already

[eternal prism]

I'll hit more enemies, I'll give more control, I'll kill everything faster.

[quiet laurel]

why cast breach surge when you could just kill

[velvet pulsar]

Then invention was impossible.

[eternal prism]

Because when I need to find a key quickly in disruption I don't want to spend a long time looking for enemies if I don't have an AoE weapon.

Especially in solo mode where spawnreci is broken

[craggy niche]

Yes but breach surge isnt that good at aoe lol

Like its better than nothing but uhh

[eternal prism]

15 enemies per map is terribly few

[eternal prism]

In my experience, it one-shot regular enemies when I was running somewhere far away.

[craggy niche]

Yes

One regular enemy

Thats not aoe lol

[fierce lark]

breach surge isn't what's doing the killing, you still have to shoot the enemy with something afterwards, so unless you're in open world you're still waiting for them to be in line of sight

even with just stretch, surge on a mote should be enough range to hit whatever you can see to shoot

[eternal prism]

I'm not saying it's a nuke. I meant it helps clear the map.

I can use a weapon with a small attack range because I don't want to take an ogris or an akarius

Or something similar

[fierce lark]

but you still have to shoot them with your weapon to clear anything

[eternal prism]

I used a latron at the time, but it's not very good outdoors

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-looking-at-cat-confused-gif-25251297

[eternal prism]

Yes, but that didn't make me seek out enemies.

I'll repeat myself once again. Disruption is meme with spwanrate in solo mode

They are difficult to group

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure steelpath always has the max amount of spawns and spawn rate regardless of squad size

[eternal prism]

Yes, but in this mode there is a maximum of 15 enemies.

[craggy niche]

Yes but you can literally clear a entire tile with just stretch and she dont use hardly any energy

[quiet laurel]

depends on your fps

[craggy niche]

No point in not min maxing strength

[eternal prism]

Until other players enter

[fierce lark]

host vs client nonsense?

[quiet laurel]

host fps determines spawn rates and how fast enemies move

[fierce lark]

lovely

[craggy niche]

Lol thats crazy work

[eternal prism]

If you don't believe me, you can check it out yourself. I don't like playing solo there, but sometimes I have to.

[quiet laurel]

which is why mobile hosts suck

[eternal prism]

There are even questions on forums with the same problem.

[hollow plover]

naranom is for melee, what is useful for primary?

i am trying out naturak its honeatly kinda fun

[eternal prism]

As u want

[fierce lark]

i don't need to check it out myself because i had wisp in EDA a couple weeks ago and built her specifically for that, my first draft even had overextended and someone straight up told me that dropping strength is bad

as it turns out, if you just use your brain with mote placement, breach surge does exactly what it's supposed to do with stretch and nothing else

[eternal prism]

There's no reason to min-max it. Flowers aren't that useful.

[quiet laurel]

we can all argue about builds now but Ima just take the time to say never place shock motes

thanks in advance

[fierce lark]

there's no way you're trying to say to me "wisp motes aren't that useful" rn

[quiet laurel]

he made a statement so trash even the dog left

[eternal prism]

You can just use a wyrm. It's a flying wisp flower under your head.

[wild rune]

I love having my defense missions slowed down by two cumulative minutes every rotation because shock motes are keeping one specific enemy from moving

[fierce lark]

damn, had no idea wyrm gave me 1200 hp and like 400 hp/s

[eternal prism]

I don't see any big advantages to this skill.

[quiet laurel]

one of the highest AS and FR buffs in the game and this guy says its not that useful

• free bellicose

[eternal prism]

Why do I need hp at level cap?

[fierce lark]

when did we start talking about levelcap wtf

[eternal prism]

I was talking about him initially.

[quiet laurel]

and what does HP at lvl cap have to do with bellicose 😭

[undone dust]

didnt know it gave me a shit ton of fire rate, attack speed, and movement speed too

[fierce lark]

okay lets say we are then

you know how to best survive at levelcap?

be invisible and kill things very very quickly

you know what does not help do that?

range 🙃

[eternal prism]

If I weren't talking about it, then of course I wouldn't argue that the 3rd skill is kind of useless.

[eternal prism]

Yes i know

[craggy niche]

If you like that try ivara with concentrated arrow

Shit is slept on as hell

[hollow plover]

does this physical dmg refer to impact slash puncture?

[eternal prism]

Apart from the attack speed flower, she has nothing useful.

Enemies die in seconds anyway. Attack speed won't do much.

[craggy niche]

Thats the worst take ive ever heard lol

[quiet laurel]

bro what are we even saying 😭

[fierce lark]

"seconds" vs "one second" vs "0.2 seconds" are all a pretty big difference when 1 stray bullet is lethal

[quiet laurel]

like "yeah I'll just not use the 3 dmg buff abilities on saryn cause I can kill the enemies already"

[eternal prism]

You take a second literally, I'm too lazy to write 0.1

[hollow plover]

what are we talking about?

[craggy niche]

"Why would you buff her most powerful skillset, its not what I like"

[undone dust]

ive heard worse tbh

[eternal prism]

It makes me press an extra button on my phone.

[undone dust]

on your phone dawg ✌️😭

[fierce lark]

alr

[quiet laurel]

bro is on phone 😭 😭 😭

no wonder you have 15 enemies haha

[craggy niche]

Hes talking about discord

[eternal prism]

Yes, because I left my PC.

[quiet laurel]

oh

[fierce lark]

this convo reminds of smth coolkid said on stream earlier

[hollow plover]

damn

[fierce lark]

"some people want warframe to be playable even by someone who is comatose"

[quiet laurel]

nvm then I take back my little messages there

[eternal prism]

I have 240 fps in warframe and it's clearly not my problem that there are 15 enemies in solo mode in disruption mode

[quiet laurel]

but yeah just str max on wisp and call it a day

[eternal prism]

If there were at least 30 enemies, it wouldn't force me to search for keys for a long time.And running after enemies is something skill 3 can handle.

I hate spawns on olympus

[lilac robin]

hi yall i was wondering, what archon shards are recommended for harrow? i was thinking of slotting a crimson shard then choosing either ability strength/duration

[craggy niche]

Shards are personal preference or for filling holes in most scenarios

[velvet pulsar]

Or flexing that ephemera

[craggy niche]

To expand on this without any conditionals once augmented is procced and you have your health pools up to proc the other arcane you are at around 500 str on this merely existing. The 4th I have is ophen eyes from jade over her sol gate but you can do nourish or roar or terrify for some examples of more on meta picks for her. I just like phenum cuz its very low energy demand and effective at the strength this build pumps out

[wet grove]

what should i pick pls help

[craggy niche]

Also fused is flexi, can swap that for power drift or prime sure footed or whatever you want really, I just find fused to be incredibly handy.

[quartz bridge]

Anyone here an expert on hound builds? Specifically one for dmg spreading and one for priming

[near vortex]

fused reservoir enjoyers when you could press the button again:

[nocturne heron]

best subsume for excalibur? (other than evade or roar for obvious reasons )

[pure kiln]

i have el clasico nourish on mine

[nocturne heron]

mhm not a bad idea actually

but it doesnt seem spicy enough idk

[late hemlock]

Wrathful is another obvious one

[brittle sleet]

Xata's is an interesting one on Excalibur for how it interacts with exalted blade beams

[versed harbor]

ye I second xatas being unique but sadly its best with stealth multiplier

[brittle sleet]

Which Excalibur does have regular access to with dash attack's blind

[versed harbor]

ye but only vs none overguarded enemies which arent rly a threat to begin with

its still good but its gimmicky fo sho

[hollow plover]

guys i wanna try getting an amp

is anything here worth it?

[versed harbor]

raplak prism gets used alot ye

[exotic edge]

I have vigilante supplies in the exilus slow but would anyone be able to recommend some improvements for steel path as this doesn’t really do damage after level 80 ish

[craggy niche]

You gotta have armor strip

[exotic edge]

How I do that

[craggy niche]

Externally

Corrosive projection, subsumes, etc there's alot of ways to strip

Or brute force through with nourish and corrosive on your guns instead of viral or roar

[fierce lark]

if you want a spicy one, do warcry

[exotic edge]

I use corrrosive projection on most builds so I guess I’ve made a start

Should I use corrosive in my weapon instead then

[fierce lark]

and then Arthur can have a seizure

[fierce lark]

corro+primed cryo on everything trust

[raw hollow]

what stats would be best on a Zanistar riven?

[exotic edge]

What corrosive projection and primed cry rounds?

[fierce lark]

corrosive mods (60/60 elec toxin)

[exotic edge]

Do you know this mods name

[craggy niche]

Are you a frostbite enjoyer?

I started using it on some stuff when I did higasa up this weekend and its not awful tbh

[fierce lark]

ive only tried it on the cedo

because the 800+% base dmg it gets makes deadhead awful

[craggy niche]

Oh shit that would kinda slap

[fierce lark]

it does, promise

[craggy niche]

I use cedo with gyre

Shes so funny holding that big ass gun lol

[fierce lark]

oh trumna has innate heat so if you build corrocold you get corro blast for free

inzane

[exotic edge]

So should I swap hellfire out then if it has built in heat

[fierce lark]

im playing around with underframe calcs

[exotic edge]

Is that like a site you can put mods on something and it calcs the stats?

[fierce lark]

yeah

i cant link it but google underframe, easy to find

[exotic edge]

Ah yes found it now thank you will have to check it on laptop tomorrow as seems weird on phone 😂

[fierce lark]

assuming you own primed cryo, this seems to be the best setup against both grineer and corrupted

technically galv scope is better over hellfire but requires frequent headshot kills to keep it stacked

only external buff was corrosive proj

[exotic edge]

I don’t have primed cryo was hoping baro had it this week so might get it with plat at some point

[fierce lark]

even with rime rounds, viral+heat still beats corrosive+heat

im doing calcs vs 225 sp heavy gunner/corrupted heavy gunner

and using deadhead with 30% headshots

corrupted heavy gunner dies almost twice as fast with viral over corrosive

[exotic edge]

So what would you swap with time rounds and is the arcane primary dead head in the build as I use merciless

[fierce lark]

deadhead/merciless have the same function, deadhead is just way easier to maintain and does more damage if you can shoot heads

should always use deadhead unless your weapon can't even semi-reliably headshot

[exotic edge]

If I was to use deadhead I’d need a recoil mod lol 😂

Also sorry what would you replace rime rounds with

[midnight horizon]

Corro cold my beloved

[fierce lark]

cant corrocold trumna unfortunately

dumb heat innate

[fierce lark]

cryo rounds

[midnight horizon]

I use Corro cold on Torid instead of the blast

Corro blast is too powerful so I gotta step down to make Torid fun

[exotic edge]

Would that work

[exotic edge]

Or that with merciless I can’t do the simulation thing

[sonic folio]

Mid vs mid

[midnight horizon]

Let me guess.... Your a viral heat user

Idk about this community man... The bad side of warframe is always coming in

[sonic folio]

Who is you

[midnight horizon]

Just a tenno

[sonic folio]

Blast chumps are the laziest of the bunch too what you yapping about

[midnight horizon]

At least it's useful for torid

Viral doesn't work always in most guns

[sonic folio]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-that-peppa-pig-gif-13606975557282567491

[midnight horizon]

But I use Corro Cold on Torid to make it weaker and able to make it fun

[midnight horizon]

At this point you're rage baiting

Nice try kiddo

I'll just ignore

[sonic folio]

"Viral doesn't work always in most guns"

Who is ts guy littering builds discussy i want meats guy back

[wanton wind]

Anyone have a good non-helminth oberon build? I like mine but want to see if I can improve it

[midnight horizon]

I mean... What direction are you going in for Oberon?

I usually see a lot of Oberons going for Range then Strength

Some range and Duration

It depends on the direction you are going with oberon

[wanton wind]

I've been running mostly strength/duration, I haven't tried range/duration

[midnight horizon]

Well it supports all of his kit

Go Strength > Range > Duration

[vapid relic]

I wish chainsaw weapons weren't utter dogshit 🥹

[sonic folio]

They are in almost every single game has been made

[vapid relic]

Even in doom?

[sonic folio]

They got captain america shield

Technically still chainsaw i guess

[midnight horizon]

It's just..... Bad.... Disgard it

[fierce lark]

every game ive ever played that has chainsaws also has guns

[fierce lark]

forgot to answer this directly but no, innate element only really affects modding if it ends up combining with your mods in some way to make an undesirable element

adding a heat mod adds 90% raw elemental damage, and also adds 90% damage to your heat statuses, this is true regardless of innate elements. all the innate heat is doing is adding to the heat weighting for more heat statuses

but if you wanted to make viral+elec, the elec would combine with innate heat to make radiation, which is a weak element and usually not desired

[wraith sinew]

is arcane fury gonna be good with my enervate nukor?

[fierce lark]

arcane fury is melee damage, so no

[hollow mantle]

70% Status Chance worth losing the +211% Damage for??

I'm really trying to make this weapon work.

[quartz bridge]

Does anyone here have a hound build?

[sonic folio]

First is way better

Man what you gonna do with status dur. with that handcannon

[hollow mantle]

I've just lost the plot atp. This weapon has fried me.

[sonic folio]

It was goated 9 years ago....

Before the sp

[hollow mantle]

This is what I got rn.

[wraith sinew]

i meant that it would trigger a lot

[hollow mantle]

I wish it did more, this is about where it stops.

[hollow mantle]

I miss it so much.

What I've settled on so far. I really wish the Crit Chance stat was Status Chance.

[midnight horizon]

Woah how much parkour stuff do you have??

[hollow mantle]

A single yellow tauforged shard.

[midnight horizon]

That one bullet jump just covered almost the whole thing

[midnight horizon]

Deadass?????

[hollow mantle]

Yeah

+22.5% is a lot

I used to use 2 shards + Firewalker in the exilus slot.

absolutely overkill.

[midnight horizon]

Oh is THAT Nezha????

Oh mesa

[karmic folio]

Is panzer a better health orb generator than diriga with verglas prime if both have synth deconstruct?

[novel bear]

No

[fierce lark]

almost all melee builds are going well above 100% crit, you don't need an enervate nukor to trigger fury

[wraith sinew]

ah k thanks

[mighty flare]

No, especially if ur meleeing

[karmic folio]

What if its on something like a nuker frame

[fierce lark]

you dont want verglas on diriga anyway, laser rifle/burst laser prime have more elements for priming with manifold/arc coil, and they get tenacious bond without a 1k+ riven

[mighty flare]

Like sevagoth? You’d run like dethcube/wyrm and both would be better than panzer

[midnight horizon]

What does Death cube do?

[mighty flare]

Panzer is good cuz it’s very versatile, not cuz it’s the best at something

[mighty flare]

Generates energy orbs

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[mighty flare]

Also if ur priming or just tagging for synth, you’d want like Tazicor

[karmic folio]

Tazicor is a sentinel weapon? And do you recommend to put it on diriga or dethcube

[mighty flare]

For a nuker? Dethcube, or Wyrm depending on what you want more

[karmic folio]

Yes I just want to upgrade in terms of energy/health orb generation

[mighty flare]

Then dethcube

[karmic folio]

Normal dethcube is fine or dethcube prime preferred?

[mighty flare]

Primes are usually always preferred

[karmic folio]

Okay thank you for advice, would you have mods build that you can recommend for that purpose?

[mighty flare]

Not at a computer right now sorry

[karmic folio]

That's alright would something like this be fine or is there anything you would change?

https://overframe.gg/build/224301/dethcube-prime/cube-of-deth-health-energy-orb-generation/

[mighty flare]

Duplex Bond and Animal Instinct aren’t exactly necessary, everything else is good

[karmic folio]

Thank you very much 🙏

[novel bear]

Dethcube prime is barely an upgrade over dethcube, it should be fine until you can get the prime

[lean tendon]

I don't use Dethcube for Sevagoth

I use Huras Kubrow or Shade Prime

[novel bear]

Different purposes
Huras and shade are for survivability, dethcube is for energy
Personally, I would go with energy, since as long as you have energy you can shieldgate

[dreamy badge]

guys i need a good Torid Build ( with incarnon)

[livid dew]

Whats the BEST Zaw to make, cause i have all the plague star parts and i dont wanna make them into throw away weapons

[lean tendon]

I never had problems with energy for Sevagoth

But I use shadow and ppl might not be using it and just subsume it off with something like roar

I personally subsume gloom

[midnight horizon]

There are e ways to make it powerful but I go by these

Corrosive Blast (the most popular)

Viral Heat (the most used combination bc of how good it is)

Corrosive Cold (........ I love it and it works fine)

[lean tendon]

Corrosive Heat is also an option

If you're using Torid on frames that use nourish subsume then go for Corrosive+Blast or Corrosive+Heat

[midnight horizon]

In a Torid you need mostly these

Amalgam Serration /Serration
Critical delay
Vital Sense
Vile Acceleration (or any fire rate)
Galvanized Chambers/Split Chambers

And the elemental mods

[midnight horizon]

You don't need full armor strip from corrosive heat, so it's always out of option

[cosmic plaza]

Should i give nezha prime or uriel my tauforged crimson? the other gets my azure

[lean tendon]

It's still an option

[midnight horizon]

Depends, what are you getting from red and blue

[cosmic plaza]

hm

[midnight horizon]

Ehh... Sure, I'll take that

But those 3 are most likely the one they mostly use

[dense belfry]

When it comes to Garudas claws, what should i build for? (Now mind you i dont have a lot of mods, though ive got some good basic damage crit and status stuff)

[lean tendon]

You give corrosive cold as a personal choice but god forbid I cant give a choice that is also among the popular ones

[midnight horizon]

Yeah but what do you need more to Uriel or Nezha

[cosmic plaza]

Uriel doesnt need azure but nezha could use both in some way

[midnight horizon]

Hahahahah ya know what I'll put it into consideration, Corrosive heat

[cosmic plaza]

i dont know which nuke to give my crimson too 😭

[midnight horizon]

Nah.... Blue is mostly not needed if I'm being fr

[midnight horizon]

Nuke? Red ability strength

[cosmic plaza]

ill give it to nezha either way

[cosmic plaza]

Both uriel and nezha are nukes

Who do i give the shard to..

[midnight horizon]

Hmm.... Go Nezha, he needs it more

Uriel? Yeah he is strong enoigh

[cosmic plaza]

k thanks!

[warm laurel]

Can someone tell me how this guy has so much health with no health mods?

[midnight horizon]

You don't need primed firestorm

[cosmic plaza]

Jeez bro you have so much plat gift me an ephemera or sum GOLLY 😭

[warm laurel]

It's not me lol its a screen shot and I was wondering how he had so much health

[lean tendon]

Galvanized Aptitude isn't good for Torid

[midnight horizon]

Oh yeah, fck I need to mention that too

[midnight horizon]

Remove Firestorm and aptitude... It works on no Incarnon but never applied to Incarnon form

So theyre useless

[dreamy badge]

whtt arcane should i put?

[midnight horizon]

you mostly need these

Amalgam Serration /Serration
Critical delay
Vital Sense
Vile Acceleration (or any fire rate)
Galvanized Chambers/Split Chambers

And the elemental mods

[midnight horizon]

I go merciless, it's better

There are other ways but Merciless is the one good for now

[dreamy badge]

only one im missing is crit delay

[midnight horizon]

Point blank for now

It may not be good but it's better for now

[dreamy badge]

isnt point blank for shotguns?

[lean tendon]

Galvanized Scope is fine and honestly better DPS wise with the caveat of needing to aim for headshots

He meant Point Strike

[midnight horizon]

Yeah yeah

It's point strike

You might consider what Sea said

[lean tendon]

But most players who want to use Torid Incarnon are not there to headshot but just point and hold click

[midnight horizon]

It's an option, a good one

I don't use it but it's a good one

[regal shore]

Average beam gun enjoyer

(Ignis wraith supremacy)

[lean tendon]

So it's just up to you really if you just want to braindead point and hold shoot or aim for headshots/weakpoints

[dreamy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-hand-rise-hand-rise-up-cat-me-too-gif-24649542

das me

[midnight horizon]

I go 80% incarnoff, 20% Incarnon... I treat Incarnon as a back up only hahahahha

I love how it flies off with a trail and does poisonous smoke bombs onto enemies than see a beam.... I love them

[regal shore]

I'm personally an Ignis wraith and coda synapse enjoyed

Enjoyer* ain't nothing like seeing them constant red crits with the snypase

Beam weapons are definitely really brain-dead and fun, torid being the best one

[dreamy badge]

i mostly use my Hate either way lol

[regal shore]

Does melee influence proc?

Since you have corrosive and not like direct electricity

[regal shore]

Yeah I mean that's pretty good

[buoyant patio]

No, it doesn't in that case.

[regal shore]

AHA I knew it

Melee duplicate time

[buoyant patio]

Unless they have an outside source of electricity like Shock Trooper or Lavos augment.

[dreamy badge]

should i replace fever strike then?

[regal shore]

Or hear me out

Melee duplicate... Instead of influence

But replacing fever strike is an option too

[dreamy badge]

i dont have that one

[regal shore]

That's okay

[regal shore]

Also do you have galvanized steel?

[dreamy badge]

yes but sacrificial steel has 220 instead of 110 of galvanized

[wild rune]

Galvanized Steel replaces Organ Shatter typically

[lean tendon]

it gives you 120% crit dmg max stacks

for galv steel

[wild rune]

wait I'm stupid steel can't be used with steel

[dreamy badge]

there is like a 40% difference with the crit chance

[wild rune]

judging from the build, this isn't a heavy attack build, so I must ask where Blood Rush is

that's the main reason to use Galvanized Steel, because the difference becomes far more negligible

[dreamy badge]

same place as melee duplicate...

i dont have it lol

[wild rune]

should be a relatively easy grind from Deimos bounties

I believe it's in the uncommon pool

[dreamy badge]

m too lazy lmao

[lean tendon]

if you're using sac steel then use sac pressure

for the set bonus

25% is big

[wild rune]

^ especially if you don't have primed pressure point

[dreamy badge]

working on that, dont even know where to get it

[lean tendon]

it goes to 275% cc and 137.5% cd

[wild rune]

oftentimes primed pressure point is considered better than sac pressure even when factoring the set bonus, but if you don't have primed, definitely use sacrificial

[lean tendon]

its a free mod after doing "The Sacrifice" quest

[dreamy badge]

i meant primed pressure point

[lean tendon]

oh

[wild rune]

unless you mean Primed Pressure Point, in which case it's a waiting game from ye olde Baro man

[dreamy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[wild rune]

the fate of all primed mods

(except for four)

[buoyant patio]

Technically those four are also a waiting game, just a different one

[wild rune]

true

[dreamy badge]

isnt it on login rewards?

[wild rune]

no, Pressure Point isn't login

login is Fury, Shred, Vigor, and Sure Footed

[eternal prism]

U not need fever strike here and pressure point. Just put blood rush and A mod that gives a status chance for a combo.. and also with this riven u can swap shocking touch to range or attack speed mod

[dreamy badge]

then we got my dumba.. that skipped on primed sure footed

[wild rune]

I got vigor first with my primed mods

[lean tendon]

just don't get hit and having no PSF is fine

or use status immunity abilities

[wild rune]

hell for the weapons I just straight up went with the worst to the best of them

went azima -> zenistar -> sigma -> zenith

[warm laurel]

Can someone tell me how this guy has so much health with no health mods?

[eternal prism]

Does it make a difference? Why do you need the same amount of hp?

[warm laurel]

Just wondering how he's doing that

[eternal prism]

It can be archont shard

[long portal]

presumably an invigoration

[warm laurel]

Okay thanks guys

[kind void]

anyone here on the hunt for a top tier hate riven? figured i would ask here as well as other places

[fierce lark]

he has a +1000 hp invigoration active

[kind void]

blue shards

225 hp 5 shards each

easy 1000hp

[fierce lark]

it’s an invig

[long portal]

225*5 != 1000

[fierce lark]

miragep has base 300 hp, invigoration gives exactly 1k for the 1300 shown

[kind void]

yes. but do we know that they are not using blue shards?

[long portal]

do you think base mirage prime has 200 hp?

[eternal prism]

It could be, but it's not logical, so it's not true. Invig

[kind void]

oh i didnt know mirage base hp XD

never used her

[graceful plank]

What should i change

[long portal]

is this for infested specifically?

[graceful plank]

that ones a little old actually hold on

[eternal prism]

I think his build is no different from burston. I haven't crafted brayton, so I can only guess.

[warm laurel]

I see, thank you. I haven't played in years so there's a lot I don't understand

[midnight horizon]

Archon shards fr fr

[solid delta]

no arcanes?

[long portal]

they havent unlocked SP yet

[solid delta]

you unlock arcanes after whisper in the walls no?

[eternal prism]

I was about to suggest a build worth millions of platinum....

Why did you say that?

[solid delta]

no not even

you unlock arcanes after the war within

[long portal]

weapon arcanes?

i believe you unlock frame arcanes after TWW

and primary/secondary later

[west quarry]

new player is anything in the baro shop a must grab from the mods?

[eternal prism]

Preferably all

If not all atlleast this

[west quarry]

ty!

[fierce lark]

absolutely not

[violet silo]

wrong chat for this
and not really

[fierce lark]

the most useful thing in baro shop rn is primed ven clip and like, that’s an archgun mod

murmur bane is not useful for a new player with limited endo and everything else is niche/minor qol

[west quarry]

thought mods would directly correlate with the build channel, which one should I have used?

[fierce lark]

you asked in the right channel dw

[eternal prism]

Pistol mutation good for akarius

[fierce lark]

this is basically gen2

[eternal prism]

He won't lose much if he owns it

[west quarry]

thanks for the good info @fierce lark @eternal prism

[violet silo]

shit wait im in the wrong channel mb

[midnight horizon]

I have bought bane of Murmur and pistol ammunition.....

[violet silo]

misclicked

😅

[midnight horizon]

[pure kiln]

anybody have a setup for hildryn prime that has both a blazing pillage and aegis gale setup on different configs?

[solid delta]

do I swap collision force for gladiator rush?

[eternal prism]

I think they're identical to the build as valkyrie claws. You can copy them. I sent the build yesterday.

Just adjust it. I'm not sure he wants range mod

The rest can be copied

[novel bear]

Landslide fists actually have good status, why build for raw damage?

Put weeping wounds

[solid delta]

what is the point of status if I oneshot enemies?

😭

[novel bear]

Vortex/influence

[eternal prism]

He has a big flat damage

[novel bear]

Oneshot more enemies

[eternal prism]

Why not

[solid delta]

Influence wont proc if you insta kill them

[eternal prism]

There is no big difference in this. And 15% status chance not bif

Big

So flat damage will be more attractive

[novel bear]

15 is plenty with weeping wounds

[solid delta]

Im hitting 800m dmg per hit after priming im trying to get 1b

[eternal prism]

It's almost the same as using it on a valkyrie

[novel bear]

Influence fists are strictly better than raw damage

[eternal prism]

Nah u not need that

Again, I repeat, they look like the claws of a valkyrie

[solid delta]

fists have good range

[novel bear]

50% more status is not the same, lol

[solid delta]

9.4m is already half of influence

well nearly

I can put more range on them

[novel bear]

That’s not how range works on landslide fists

[eternal prism]

10% against 15