builds-discussion

[rocky mason]

I can send mine

[daring summit]

tyty

[rocky mason]

use this with the alt fire on your 4th to just aoe nuke everything

it's a 7 forma build, 2 on hildryn and 5 on the balefire launcher

[night laurel]

the point of enervate balefire is to take advantage of the bug, no?

the infinite crit?

[daring summit]

theres a bug?

[rocky mason]

even without the bug it's still infinite crit

[rocky mason]

if you're not the host you can keep always red crits

but I've been doing solo sp perita rebellion runs with this fine

[daring summit]

thats gonna get patched

[rocky mason]

still lots of damage without the bug

[rocky mason]

Yeah the bug takes it from big damage to absolutely insane

[late hemlock]

Don't need the bug to oneshot eda tier mobs

[rocky mason]

Also ETA got techrot that have shields that you can steal with pillage

[late hemlock]

Maybe if you were doing endurance without using her very easy armor strip tool, but she can just chew through eta/eda even as host

Never
Ever
Use precision intensify on hildryn

People that use that mod have not tested it on hildryn for a single mission, it ending with pillage is exactly what happens

[daring summit]

I AM NOT CRAZY!!!!

[drowsy herald]

Blast is a mix of cold and heat and some other mods and arcanes work with combined elements so I thought it was like that

[rocky mason]

You want precision intensify even less with arcane expertise now

[daring summit]

so the ennervate is for non-hosting crit bugging, but is it still viable for hosting?]

[rocky mason]

It still gives you a lot of crits as host yeah

[late hemlock]

Enervate is her best arcane by far

[rocky mason]

When working as intended

[late hemlock]

The bug is FULLY optional

Most players dont know about it, and even someone like me who does i don't go out of my way to trigger it

[rocky mason]

Which is insane because cascadia overcharge exist and Enervate is still better

[versed harbor]

ye enervate hildryn was viable before they found the bug

[daring summit]

ty all,

[quiet laurel]

so sad the bug is common knowledge now

[late hemlock]

"Common"

Discord is a fraction

[willow widget]

Anyone able to help me with a gara and atlas build, im so lost why they dont work

[versed harbor]

ye drop it here

[willow widget]

Ss is uploading rn, but i dont have the best mods so dont grill me 😔

Atlas

Gara didnt send?

[rocky mason]

Why

[quiet laurel]

more people know about it = more people use it = the more attention it draws to DE = higher chance of it being nerfed

[violet silo]

not sure which arcanes you're referring to but anything that says "on: [x] status effect:" means whenever you deal that status effect

[rocky mason]

I mean it should get fixed anyway since it's a bug

[violet silo]

it deserves to be nerfed, and it's really not hard to find.

it's not a niche little bug with low impact that the community deserves to keep

[rocky mason]

Get the augments, rubble heap for atlas is a must

[versed harbor]

on ur fists dont bother with melee prowess, swap for organ shatter for now

on atlas himself are u having energy issues or anything? It could use ranked up flow / primed flow and equilibrium would be a big help, rubble heap makes 1 free which is op

[rocky mason]

Everytime I had the bug active was by accident

[willow widget]

I cant im not high enough standing for any cause im missing gara's too

[willow widget]

I dont have any forma or space

[late hemlock]

At least give atlas a reactor lol

[willow widget]

I dont have any 🤣🤣🤣

[rocky mason]

Yeah give a potato to him, he's starving

[quiet laurel]

why would you want smth nerfed that benefits the players

undercover DE employee ahh

[fierce lark]

sell energize for a potato

[rocky mason]

Wanting frames to work without potatoes is really hard, there's only a few that are good enough for that

[quiet laurel]

aka all

[violet silo]

also, not sure what you're talking about, since it's still untouched and it will be viable even once it's patched

[quiet laurel]

you effectively need like 3 mods on a frame to make it viable

[rocky mason]

Like steel path viable?

[versed harbor]

what are u saying

[willow widget]

I cant seem to get any 😭 I spent all my Nora stuff already to

[rocky mason]

Get more

There should be more missions

[quiet laurel]

level cap viable

[versed harbor]

ye it was already viable before this bug so if they remove it then its still good

[rocky mason]

What are the mods

[violet silo]

damage should come from an entire mod setup and well-made build, this bug is just free infinite damage scaling with no effort. kinda dumb imo

[quiet laurel]

primed flow, equilibrium, catalyzing shields

[fierce lark]

brief respite catashield rg

[rocky mason]

What

[fierce lark]

or i guess you can offload shield restore xd

[violet silo]

oh I thought you were saying "enervate hildryn is viable because of the bug but now that they found it it isn't viable anymore" mb

[quiet laurel]

all you need is survivability, the rest is just magistar + space bar

[slow trellis]

hi.

[fierce lark]

equi shard cat pflow nira set

[slow trellis]

whipclaw build

[brazen flare]

Hi everyone, i have a question about tennokai mods, i wanna run discipline'merit on baruuk desert wind, if i put all the other tennokai mods on my normal melee, does desert wind tennokai benefit from them or not?

[slow trellis]

hi, whipclaw build

[final wasp]

What mod is really good with a mele weapon on volt?

[sly island]

Uriel build I made

[slow trellis]

i sure would appreciate it if i could get some help with building khora and her whipclaw

[rocky mason]

No

[rocky mason]

Now we talking

Do you want a build with or without using naramon?

[slow trellis]

i dont really know what naramon is, im afraid

[rocky mason]

Oh

How far into the game are you?

[slow trellis]

very far. i just dont know what naramon is in this context.

are there operator mods or what do you mean

[rocky mason]

naramon is a focus school, it's base ability makes so your combo decays slowly instead of at once

which is important for whipclaw as you would have all the combo gone and need to spam it to get it back to 12x

[slow trellis]

ah. could be good i guess

[rocky mason]

this is the one I use with naramon

[slow trellis]

but how exactly does it change the build path?

[rocky mason]

I actually use arcane fortification most of the time

[rocky mason]

well, blood rush and weeping wounds need combo so I use galvanized reflex on the build that doesnt use naramon

[slow trellis]

i dont have any arcanes btw

dont really know how to farm them, seems like a huge grind

[rocky mason]

then get some

you can get melee arcane adapters on the sanctum anatomica missions

and most arcanes from there as well, you can just buy them from bird 3 with standing too

my day to day khora build is this health tank setup for comfort

[slow trellis]

i dont really know what all of this means dude. i just want a basic ass khora build

[rocky mason]

it's not the best by any means but you can semi afk with it and not have to care about toxin procs

what part do you not understand

[slow trellis]

idk what arcanes are or how to get them or wtf archon stuff is

or how focus schools even work

i just know they exist

[rocky mason]

and you want a build without having to learn that?

[slow trellis]

yes i want a build without naramons and preferably without arcanes

[rocky mason]

and you want it to work?

[thin quartz]

little ask here, but does growing power work with mesa's 4?

[rocky mason]

well there you have it, an earlyish game build

[thin quartz]

or is there a better aura mod?

[rocky mason]

just copy it and dont think about it

[rocky mason]

it works yeah, but you would have to proc a status effect before pressing 4

[fathom sky]

You just stack a ton of range, a little bit of duration and efficiency, and completely take off Strength because you use Accumulating Whipclaw. Can use this build as reference for what stats to prioritize.

https://overframe.gg/build/357969/

[thin quartz]

ahh, so it doesnt work while using the regulators?

[slow trellis]

im not that early game. i just finished the Hex

[quick cloud]

at least have this, it is also very easy to drop

[rocky mason]

if you're not using arcanes you're on the early game

[slow trellis]

i just dont know why i have to farm 1 billion different things when there's barely endo to go around

[slow trellis]

3 forma? oh god

[rocky mason]

regulators take into consideration the strength you have at the moment you cast it, so if you get the 25% after it won't get more damage

[fathom sky]

1. Because you're meant to farm for Endo and Credits.
2. Building things get easier because the stuff you use in build 1 can be used in build 2, so the cost to set up the next one is lower.

[thin quartz]

sigh, well it was a nice dream and at least i dont need the mod now

[slow trellis]

i'll use that build then but man. what about my whipclaw build?

[fathom sky]

If three Forma got you shaking in your boots, you're early game. If you don't have the upgraded versions of the mods, you can use the regular in their place and maybe save some Forma. There's also a Whipclaw build in the description of the build.

[slow trellis]

idk how to build whipclaw cuz it feels like everything just hinges entirely on arcanes

[rocky mason]

it doesnt really

[slow trellis]

3 forma on a frame is annoying because frames are inherently harder to level up

3 forma on a weapon is mildly inconvenient because that's just 3-5 turns of ESO

[fathom sky]

The main thing Arcanes, Shards, and all that stuff do is allow you to offload stats off from your mods to those to get more QoL or stats you wouldn't be able to slot in with slots alone anyway. That's why something like Molt Augmented is super nice.

[slow trellis]

idk what molt augmented is

[quick cloud]

do you have on call by any chance?

[fathom sky]

Those, also get easier as you rank up your MR, since then you'll have more initial abilities as you rank up until you just lose none of your abilities.

[rocky mason]

it can work in your favor too, if you use zenurik first ability or any other thing that buffs your strength temporarily and then press 4 you can keep that buffed version even after the duration of the buff is over

[thin quartz]

yeah

[slow trellis]

idk what that is

[fathom sky]

It's something you get from Railjack that lets you summon one of the Crewmates as a real strong Specter.

[thin quartz]

is mesa's 1 good? i might swap it for empower or something.

[slow trellis]

not particularly

[fathom sky]

Mesa's 1 is a meme. Something like Roar, Nourish or Pillage would be common.

[fierce lark]

it’s for memes

[slow trellis]

a lot of frames dont have great 1's

which is actually really weird

[thin quartz]

well i have roar, sadly no nourish or pillage

[fierce lark]

with certain setups you can make it hit damage cap and it’s fun, but for normal gameplay you sub it for nourish or roar

[rocky mason]

farm nokko for the subsume, it's the best for mesa

[fierce lark]

roar is better (probably) if you don’t have primed elec

run viral heat regs

[slow trellis]

i'd assume mesa 1 would be funny for eidolons if you have a nice sniper

[rocky mason]

you can bounce on it

[slow trellis]

primed chamber + mesa 1

[thin quartz]

yeah.

[slow trellis]

doing a ton of damage in a single shot

[fathom sky]

Builds chat telling people to bounce on it lol

[thin quartz]

alright, time to farm nokko and get the bounce build

yeehaw etc

[rocky mason]

it's optimal

[slow trellis]

@fathom sky how do i build whipclaw? like, what should i do right now?

i dont have a ton of arcanes and endo.

[thin quartz]

does attack speed mean only with melees or does it mean in general? i think warcry might be funny.

[quick cloud]

sad, if you have on call you could have level up frame quite easy from Elara

[rocky mason]

yeah attack speed is just melee, for ranged it's fire rate

[thin quartz]

roar it is.

[fathom sky]

https://overframe.gg/build/827172/ Something vaguely like this but use Electric for the element maybe. This is where the Arcane actually matters because the effect for the one there is unique and so that's why it uses Magnetic, since the point is to suck in more enemies into the Strangledome.

As before, all of these mods are used in many other melees and so the investment is something you should buckle down into.

[slow trellis]

well i cant really get arcanes because this game requires you to farm 1 million things at once so i cant really get arcanes rn

which is why i wanted to get khora, to make it easier to get endo and vitus and thus make it more convenient to farm

[final wasp]

What is a volt ibfluense build? What is influense

[fathom sky]

You farm other things and Arcanes at the same time. Zariman, Cavia and Hex bounties give a decent amount of Endo just from their rewards for someone who doesn't have the dedicated Endo farms set up, and those give a lot of the more modern Arcanes from their shops and rewards too.

[slow trellis]

they dont give enough endo. mods need 30k endo to fully level up

[fathom sky]

Like you can get a few thousand Endo in like 3-4 minutes if Zariman has a Tier 5 Exterminate with a good side objective.

[slow trellis]

a few thousand isnt enough when you need 5 digit numbers for mods

[fathom sky]

Melee Influence. Melee Arcane that lets your melee spread elemental status effects if you proc Electric. Volt just does it gooder because of his Shock Trooper Augment giving a lot of Elec.

[abstract axle]

I mean, its a grindy game. It should take a while to fully max a mod

[fathom sky]

Yeah and that's why you slowly work on it. You're not going to get the entire build ground out in a couple hours and it's not like if you're missing a couple levels or are using the weaker mods, that the build just becomes entirely useless.

[final wasp]

Okay thank you

[fathom sky]

You're believing you need every single little bit of the build to make it do anything when in reality, people have been levelcapping with far worse gear since before Cetus existed, and with far harder enemies

[abstract axle]

yeah, warframes a loaded game. You don't need to anywhere near optimal to cover normal content

heck, nokko can solo ETA without mods

[fathom sky]

Octavia levelcaps with no mods iirc

[slow trellis]

bunch of mods i lack rn. weeping wounds, galv elem, primed fever strike

do i replace primed fever with a 60/60 mod?

[abstract axle]

no, replace it with the 90

[slow trellis]

also all of the augments + cata shields

[abstract axle]

swapping augments is the most common trade happening at any given time. Max your standing and start swapping

[quick cloud]

you could upgrade mods to level 8 and that gives you like 80% the fully upgraded effect with about 8k endos

no need to fully upgraded at once

[fathom sky]

The Augments, Weeping and Cata are very easy to purchase/trade from someone else. The others have much cheaper alternatives for the time being like Melee Elementalist over Galv Elementalist for the meantime.

[abstract axle]

^the last two ticks cost 75 percent of the maxing cost

[quick cloud]

yeah

[slow trellis]

holy shit, why is it so expensive to rank up standing?

2 aya?????? just to not even be allowed to buy augments?

[fathom sky]

Because this is stuff that you're meant to be doing over the course of at least a couple weeks and not all at once

Farming Prime items from Relics to get Plat would incidentally also get you Aya, as doing Void missions or Cetus/NEcralisk/Fortuna Bounties also has chances to reward those.

[proven pier]

Can someone share good panzer build with claws for archon Stretch

[rocky mason]

Wisp too

[rocky mason]

If you want all the stuff immediately you can get platinum and buy from other players

Farming stuff generally takes time

<@&778745217037238293> spam bot

[stoic quarry]

what's yalls build for SP Prime Vanguard???

it took me about 20 minutes rawdogging them without any knowledge on how to beat them

[rocky mason]

This one

[final wasp]

Is this a general good build? Or is it better with any specific weapon?

[stoic quarry]

what weapon is that??

[rocky mason]

Hildryn exalted weapon from her 4th

[stoic quarry]

oh damn

no outside weapon??? i dont really mess with hildryn

[rocky mason]

You just press 4 and start hovering and use her exalted weapon

With the augment, the alt fire gets extra damage based on your max shields

[stoic quarry]

i meant i don't like hildryn

[rocky mason]

And you will have like 10k by the end of perita rebellion

[rocky mason]

Well then what do you like?

[stoic quarry]

what focus school?

[rocky mason]

Zenurik with arcane expertise

[stoic quarry]

im maining mag atm

[rocky mason]

All strength bonuses apply to max shields

[rocky mason]

Have you watched the mag bible video?

[stoic quarry]

looking for a weapon better than my current setup to pair with the bubble

[stoic quarry]

tf is that

[rocky mason]

Hour long video explaining everything you need

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w7yMF3b7ylI

[quick cloud]

[rocky mason]

It has a weapon and synergies section too, the guy also made other videos with more weapon recommendations for mag

[late hemlock]

Honestly you can do it with p much anything, so just roll with what you want?

If you struggle I suppose comfort is some exalted weapon frame like mesa/atlas etc

[stoic quarry]

yeah i did it with mag and rauta

[rocky mason]

Ah

[late hemlock]

Even my dog kills em no issues

[quick cloud]

any video for Arbitration?🤓

[rocky mason]

Rauta isn't really a good gun for damage

[stoic quarry]

ik but i like the noises it makes

[rocky mason]

The main thing it has is getting the combo counter up

So pairing it with a good melee probably will help you

[stoic quarry]

nahhhh

i hate melee so much rn

[rocky mason]

Why

[late hemlock]

You can use atlas and punch them

Works just fine

[stoic quarry]

idk

rauta more fun

can i send links here?

[late hemlock]

Links are disabled iirc

Pic/vid is fine

[rocky mason]

Except when ember starts floating

[late hemlock]

She gets instakilled before she does anything lol

Never had issues

[stoic quarry]

this is what the rauta feels like

[craggy niche]

So jade is frigging awesome

This is what I have on her

Albeit streamline might be flexi after I switched to flow last night I dont really think I need it

And this is what I have on her glory

Idea is lmb spam and just stay up there forever utilizing the dr from flying and the turbocharged shields from her song to passive gate

Does anyone else on here do jade with her 1 subsumed over and have any insight? I eluded for xatas over roar because of energy economy and glory just going insane damage as is anyway

[tame musk]

ragebait question but if i have 11000 platinum what build should i buy to clear sp ez from 1%-100%

[daring summit]

on a riven for a hunter munitions soma build, is multishot better than %damage?

or, i guess, which riven would you use? im leaning visitis.

[astral tinsel]

depends on how much you get elsewhere

I'd say definitely damage if running crux

[hearty jackal]

I got a tenet glaxion but I picked a heat progenitor for the blast effect, now I'm not sure I made the right choice... Should I build blast with corrosive or something else ?

[hollow plover]

uhhh

[solid delta]

which weapon is this??

[pallid quiver]

is a riven a must on paris or is it still very good without the extra crit and stat chance

[solid delta]

you never need a riven

[midnight horizon]

Yeah you really don't need a riven

I mean it's nice and all but yeah

[undone dust]

you only need a riven for paris if you're trying to min max status and cc for pet claws

[hollow plover]

BOltor sorry

[distant jackal]

Is persistence wisp build something not worth doing? Triple umbra 1 shard for armor to hit 700

[solid delta]

arcane persistence is kinda a joke imo

[distant jackal]

Wdym

[solid delta]

do you struggle to stay alive with wisp so much to a point you gotta use a health tank build

on a warframe that can go invisible on command?

[distant jackal]

Sometimes i just die from something

[severe bough]

Tap 2 two Times

[distant jackal]

To explain it better, if my shield breaks and im already on health very often i just die i want a way to tank and regen

[distant jackal]

What

[severe bough]

Its makes u invul for 3 secs

[solid delta]

slot in rolling guard then. For emergency situations but I dont recommend it

[severe bough]

Ur pretty much spamming 2 to stay invis or as invul if smth goes wrong double press 2 and if your still struggling use rolling guard for extra safety

[distant jackal]

Alright appreciate it

Ohh on the topic of arcanes, i do need a way to slot in vitality to hit max bellicose

Js a sec ill send my build

I was thinking remove psf put augment on exilus and add umbra vitality

Augment might not be worth using actually might go for power drift...

[severe bough]

If u dont health tank with wisp which i wouldnt recommend u dont really need any other survivalbilty she survives alone with her passive her 2 and cc from breach surge blinding enemys aswell as from her elec mote is nice to have aswell

[distant jackal]

Its more because id like more strenght really, mostly for that

Cuz umbra vitality woukd buff umbra intensify aswell so more strength in 2 things

[hollow plover]

any boltor build? for some dmg and status for my CO

[solid delta]

you can swap out adaptation. I think you dont need this

[severe bough]

Ur then basically using 1 mod which doesnt make any sense to only actived the one arcane str is nice to have tho smth like arcane crep is def the better choice. Also swap out Adaptation

[distant jackal]

I mightve been playing wisp wrong all along then

I dont really use the second i usualy spam the third

Thats why im using adap really

[late hemlock]

Just play with a lot of str you will cap bellicose by just placing a mote down

[distant jackal]

Never been able to, max ive hit was like 52% str with that build

Dont think even with relic buff i managed to

[late hemlock]

Iirc its maxed by just hitting mote?

Might be wrong though I have long since moved to use crepescular

[novel bear]

No you won’t, you need 800 strength for that

Closer to 900, actually

[late hemlock]

Huh I stand corrected then

[novel bear]

Vitality is still a bad choice though

[solid delta]

just play around her passive and crepuscular

[novel bear]

It gives you less than ten strength on wisp

[modern vale]

It depends on the faction.
If you are against Infesteds, they love deal AoE attacks

[distant jackal]

Yeah but i was thinking umbral so it buffs umbra intensify aswell but ive beens told its also buns

Might just have to get used to playing with her passive

[late hemlock]

Umbral intensify is good but its not worth using the other umbral mods

[novel bear]

Jumping improves survivability a lot on any frame
It’s fantastic on wisp
Start jumping

[elder hare]

Question for qorvex what should i focus on?

[mighty flare]

Range then strength, around 200

[nimble summit]

hi i have a question do i need base strength of 199 on seva goth to oneshot cuz i have a194 but i see many youtubers be on 199?

[midnight horizon]

From what all discussions came here

You can go 199 or 190

But if you want full potential nuking it's 255

Either way it'll scatter anywhere if there are big group, but avain

255 is the full potential nuking

[nimble summit]

i saw some vids and molt augmented will get me there

[midnight horizon]

Yeah, it will

199 and then plus Molt with addition 100

Thays 299 (just check the math if I'm wrong, I'm usually wrong with numbers)

255, + Molt augment + roar = Full potential

As I said if you want full potential, go 255

I mean you need the addition viral stack (10 is one stack I believe) and it'll go skyrocket

[nimble summit]

yh i have a epitpah primer aswell i use for 400+ content

from what ive gathered priming not rlly needed for like up to 200 level content

[midnight horizon]

Yup, it can reach to high places

Nuking potential (as I haven't tested it) can reach as far as 1000 and above... Possibly (bc of hp%=true damage) lvl cap

[brittle sleet]

https://overframe.gg/build/717054/sevagoth-prime/gloom-reaper-sevagoth-sp-general-use-nuke-crit-buff-slow-shadow/ on the breakdown under the build you can find more precision on the numbers for Sevagoth nuking

[midnight horizon]

Or with more guide

#1429852785251455016

Written by The Seva User her.... Him.... Themselves!

[sly island]

💀dawg

I had to swap for normal scretch till I get enough Endo for max it

[nimble summit]

im just shy of 255 i counted brother does it matter that much that im 254 strength instead of 255

🥲

[midnight horizon]

Yeah it's ok

[nimble summit]

well we get there im still kinda new so when i get some tauforged archon crystals we good

[midnight horizon]

Bc you don't need Archon Stretch, just go normal stretch

Those two archon mods is enough for Uriel

[midnight horizon]

Don't worry

[nimble summit]

i think i only need 1 tauforged crimson shards to hit 199 strength

so i just gotta pray next week is strength again

[modern vale]

Unless you're with Nidus or Inaros, unfortunately

[sly island]

Next step is farming for archon stuff for equipment archon crystal for boost more my build

[midnight horizon]

Ehhhhh sure

[daring summit]

t/f: hildryn's 4, as a channeled ability, snapshots ability strength, so i should activate inside zenurik circle?

[sly island]

I mean I already know which one use too

[midnight horizon]

That's good, do your best tenno, I wish you luck

[sly island]

Same for you brother tenno

[mighty flare]

Yeah you can snapshot, don’t really need to tho

[livid gale]

Anyone has a hildryn build for EDA and ETA?

[cold salmon]

this is what im running atm

ignore the archon mods, replace with primed or normal variant

[ember condor]

Trying out Tenet Plinx for the first time and am looking for some assistance with modding it. This is what I currently have, built to be a hotswap nuke with the alt fire.

[sour gyro]

Anyone got a build for sybaris incarnon?

[livid gale]

Thanks.

[dense abyss]

Brothers and sister...

What good melee weapon for burst damage?

since Slam died...

I was thinking of Glaive or something like that...

what the best option right now?

[cold salmon]

i dont exactly rmb wht the incarnon does but i did manage to find this ss of my build that i did sometime ago
evolution: Blazing Barrel + Marksman's Hand + Survivor's Edge

maybe there's a better way to build it but this should still be very effective

[cold salmon]

slam is not really dead, u just gotta jump high before slamming instead of spamming slam like ppl previously did

actually if u jump high enough, im pretty sure the slam will actually deal damage in a bigger radius than before, so its technically stronger if u do it right

[dense belfry]

im ttrying to make kullervos shotgun better and im asking if this would do me well?

[midnight horizon]

That has some low crit damn hahahah

[cold salmon]

and sc too lmao

[dense belfry]

yeah its meant to buff kullervos combo meter than anything

[cold salmon]

but savvy will definitely help a lot with damage but u prob need a primer to prime enemies since the gun itself has such low sc

[cold salmon]

ye, i do rmb rauta mainly used for utilies rather than dmg

[lean tendon]

Slam nerfs are honestly buffs. They just removed the lazy slamming thing.

[cold salmon]

and fixed nira sets 😢

[lean tendon]

You're still doing strong dmg in a bigger radius anyways

[cold salmon]

ye, its still really good, definitely not dead by any mean

[lean tendon]

Don't play pubs in Asia everyone is on the Magistar or any slam weapon lmao

[solid delta]

you can spam wraithful advance while looking upwards into a slam

basically the same thing

[dense abyss]

but a lot of missions is in a short space, so, it's useless
you can't spam like before, Wukong nerf with cloud for a example

[craggy niche]

yooo

[dense belfry]

also that longer combo duraiton has hoenstly helped me run over to a big guy a teammates struggling on mouse5 (my heavy melee)

[craggy niche]

does vampiric grasp proc archon intensify?

for grasp of lohk

on xaku

[dense abyss]

In Circuit is good btw, but its not worth anymore

[lean tendon]

And even after all of those Slam Wukong is still strong af

[dense abyss]

its is when u can use

[cold salmon]

and there's always sampotes, the shockwaves doesnt care about slam radius

[dense abyss]

so, about the melee weapons, anyone have recommendations?

[lean tendon]

I see a Volt Slam, a Wukong Slam, or Caliban Slam. Honestly even other frames my pubs use Slam weapons still.

[lean tendon]

Tenet Exec as well right?

[solid delta]

if you want burst dmg you can use glaives

[cold salmon]

yea

[solid delta]

I recommend xoris, falcor, coda pathocyst

all are easy to get

[lean tendon]

I'm still mad I didn't reach MR17 in time for the recent 60% Coda Pathocyst

[dense abyss]

no Glaive Prime? I thought it was good

[cold salmon]

honestly yea, heavy attack builds are what ur looking for, so mostly slam or glaives

[solid delta]

Glaive prime isnt as good since the status rework

[fathom sky]

It hasn't been good for a few years

[solid delta]

its still strong but its not up there

[dense abyss]

i'm changing every build mine and selling all the melee mods, i just need the best melee possible to do specific mission when requires

[fathom sky]

Xoris and Falcor are both easier to get and far better with the status rework and Influence

wdym selling all of them? Just have one of every mod maxed and then sell the copies

[dense abyss]

i'm returning after some years, so i'm out of the metas etc...

[solid delta]

glaive prime is vaulted youd have to buy it

[dense abyss]

Yeah, i have Glaive and Xoris

[craggy niche]

also am i insane for wanting to put pillage over xaku's 1?

[fathom sky]

The builds didn't change that much, just a few mods here and there and some new flexible options like Galvanized Elementalist.

You still run Blood Rush, Weeping Wounds, and Condition Overload on basically everythin

[solid delta]

Xoris is better to use because it has way more range than other glaives

[cold salmon]

tho depends on ur use case, glaives typically only burst well when u have groups of enemies because most of them if nt all relies on influence

[solid delta]

you dont run CO on glaives

[cold salmon]

if u want single target burst, they wont work well for that use case

[solid delta]

it doesnt work on AOE

[fathom sky]

Yeah I know that, but the build for Glaives also similarly has changed little.

[dense abyss]

i have this, but i can buy a prime without problem

[solid delta]

well the coda pathocyst deal really high dmg to single targets

it has the highest base dmg and forced viral proc

[dense abyss]

Xoris is elemental oriented, right?

[fathom sky]

Prisma Skana and Hate have Incarnons and Innodem is still Innodem

[cold salmon]

yea, just wanna point out depending on his use case, the options will change for bursting

[fathom sky]

That's not really how builds work. All but like 3 relevant weapons all put damage, crit and status mods on themselves. It's just a matter of what status effects and which mods work the strongest for that weapon type.

https://overframe.gg/build/618917/

[cold salmon]

basically, its hybrid

[dense abyss]

like this

[fathom sky]

Like pretty much every weapon, which is why I mention the distinction is pointless

The only weapon that comes to mind that's actually "pure" status or "pure" crit is Phantasma.

[mighty flare]

You’d usually go over 3

[solid delta]

there are only 2 build styles for the glaives, one is heavy explosion spam and one is not doing that

[vivid pine]

I mean you could argue the difference between raw and status damage is where the line is drawn (like how toxos don't build for status damage they invest more in crit)

[dense abyss]

this build can hitkill something like lv400? because i did build a wukong for his Staff, and i need to spam a lot of attacks to kill something lv.200...

even with 4 violets tauforged

[cold salmon]

staff build? u want max range with influence since staff has 100% follow through

it will work insanely good against hordes of enemies but not so much aginst single target

[solid delta]

why do you put condition overload on it when you only have 3 elements

[dense abyss]

I feel this exactly

[fathom sky]

Yeah but again, it's easily the exception and not the rule.

[dense abyss]

thats my problem

[fathom sky]

Iron Staff just isn't really a single target weapon

[cold salmon]

then u should probably be looking for a single target burst melee to kinda kill in the gap

[dense abyss]

i feel like is good overall, because a lot os people use nourish and other elements buffs

[cold salmon]

so coda pathocyst like somone mentioend or g back to slam and jump higher 💀

[dense abyss]

nah... I've already accepted that Slam doesn't exist anymore; the gameplay has become too restricted and slow.

[fathom sky]

Ah, one of the things you understand already about today's meta lol. Yeah lots of people are shooting out status effects everywhere for you to abuse with CO.

[dense abyss]

at least for me

[solid delta]

they never nerfed the damage on slams, just the range

I dont see why you refuse to use it on single targets

🤔

[fathom sky]

Because they were a Cloud Walker abuser.

[solid delta]

It still deals tens of millions of damage

[dense abyss]

the damage scale with height too

[cold salmon]

staffs for hordes, slam for single target sounds reasonable to me

[fathom sky]

It doesn't.

[solid delta]

no it doesnt my friend

[cold salmon]

they changed that fairly certain

it does scale with height when it ffirst gt nerfed

they reverted it after

[fathom sky]

It never scaled damage with height, it's just that the dropoff is quicker because, you know, the radius of the explosion is smaller if you don't go as high.

[dense abyss]

I feel like i'm inside a limbo

because nothing works

[cold salmon]

"the slam nerfed patch note"

[fathom sky]

idk what you're specifically struggling with rn. https://overframe.gg/build/601678/

[dense abyss]

before the nerfs the Slam, i used to kill everything at the level cap, now I'm having trouble killing even the basic SP lv.200, crazy business.
I just don't understand how the mathematics works now

[fathom sky]

The damage never changed, K. You just need to be higher in the air to get the large slam explosions to hit enemies that aren't directly in front of you.

I'd just use Magistar Incarnon for slam personally

[buoyant patio]

In other words: You now need to bullet jump upwards then slam to get the full radial damage, instead of just spamming spacebar and e.

[fathom sky]

If you hit someone dead on with a puny slam you'll still get the max damage if you wanna meme

[cold salmon]

tbh

i think u prob had nira mods on ur wukong, because iirc pernerf slam can levelcap withour armor stripping because nira sets calculation was bugged and broken

which they did fix, so nira's damage now is additive to pressure point which means u will deal significantly less damage prior to prenerf if u do have nira sets on

but either way current slam is still potent enough to one shot EDA/ETA, with a little bit of armor strip u can even gfo to lvl cap

[solid delta]

this is without buffs. With them the acolyte dies in 1 shot

coda mire is pretty good too

but it does struggle to kill enemies with overguard because melee affliction doesnt work

[dense abyss]

This is a Glaive?

[solid delta]

yes

[dense abyss]

I never thought it was, lol

[solid delta]

thats the coda pathocyst

thrown melees

[dense abyss]

thats cool

still better than Xoris?

[solid delta]

no Id say the xoris is better

[dense abyss]

thats a surprise...

[solid delta]

ya, xoris deletes the entire room

I dont have one built so I cant show you but there are videos on youtube

[dense abyss]

now this is a discussion

Xoris vs. Falcor

[thorn oak]

both influence slop

[dense abyss]

Falcor is better with Volatile Rebound? because in the stats, Xoris have more radial distance

[spring bison]

wisp prime,
I haven't played for a long while, can I improve something (except one shard)

[long portal]

if you're health tanking with wisp you might consider persistence

[fierce lark]

nira’s is addictive to seismic wave, both are multi to base dmg

[cold salmon]

ur right, pressure point is base damage and seismic wave and niras are slam damage, i got it mixed up

[mental root]

Hey there I have a question. I'd like to use the Boltor Prime and I have a Riven for it. Is there any recommendations to pair with this Riven or should I just reroll?

[warm obsidian]

Ignore the Arcanes since that's only what I have but thoughts?

[solemn kiln]

my inaros 😄

[fierce lark]

it’s a decent riven if you don’t have primed cryo rounds, can run it in place of cold mod for viral builds

if you have primed cryo i would reroll

or you could just run it in a flex slot

iirc boltor normally runs raw viral

[mental root]

Gotcha, What sort of Stats should I be looking for in terms of Rerolling (I Have Maxed Primed Cryo.)

[fierce lark]

what build are you doing? most ive seen run deadhead and the usual cc cd apt chamber with raw viral

[mental root]

Honestly I'm unsure. I'm not aware what sort of potential Builds one can do with the Boltor

[cold salmon]

i personally run a crux build with the incarnon evo for 100% ammo efficiency and just ply on incarnoff and apply insane heat stacks

probaly not optimal in terms of dmg but its still potent and fun to ply

[mental root]

That sounds pretty fun, I think Ill try that especially since I run Arcane HotShot

[fierce lark]

boltor is multiplicative with galv apt

[next estuary]

On mobile right now so I don't have my full build, but I have the Telos Boltor. Is crit chance more important than crit damage or should I go for both?

[cold salmon]

Jic if ur interested, the riven is +damage +multishot

personally think there's stll room for improvement but its already pretty good

[lean tendon]

If you are gonna use Despoil then just drop Equilibrium or vice versa. Personally, I prefer Equilibrium.

[mental root]

Thank you very much!

[craggy niche]

Wisp doesn't really need flow imo

[thorn oak]

real

[cold salmon]

imo i would go for both

[warm obsidian]

Might drop Equilibrium then since it's barely leveled

[next estuary]

So this Riven is fine?

[cold salmon]

yea its already really good, tho it can be better if u have a neg stats, having a neg stats will bump up those pos stats significantly

[craggy niche]

You can drop flow for a flexi

[next estuary]

Will do!

[lean tendon]

@warm obsidian might help you build your own Nekros

[dense abyss]

Wukong with ROAR and 4 violet tauforged crit, i keep "Growing Power" or change to "Corrosive Projection"?

[warm obsidian]

Been using Umbra's katana (forgot the name lol) with Daikyu and it's amalgam mod

I just really like melee

[craggy niche]

She also doesn't need roar she need strip. Do terrify or pillage

[next estuary]

Skiajati?

[craggy niche]

I use ophie eyes cuz its lazy and effective at wisp strength levels

[solemn kiln]

should i subsume roar or xakus ability onto my inaros?

[lean tendon]

So long as you are getting gore kills it should be fine. Personally I just use Ripkas so I can use any primary/secondary. And Ripkas with Melee Influence is still decently good.

[next estuary]

What's the significance of gore kills? I saw the ripkas amalgam mod and I'm curious on what that does

[lean tendon]

It's to activate Nekros' 3rd ability Desecrate

[next estuary]

Oh that's sick

[warm obsidian]

Gored counts as separate body iirc

[lean tendon]

Gore procs dismemberment which synergizes well with Nekros's Desecrate, as bisected body parts are treated as distinct "corpses", and have their own chance to yield additional loot.

[next estuary]

Does it have a use on other warframes or just Nekros?

[craggy niche]

I could be wrong but im pretty sure roar is outright better save a few use cases

[lean tendon]

Ripkas with the [Amalgam Ripkas True Steel] has 100% gore chance and that gore chance works on all of your stuff

So if you just want ezpz dismemberment you just use Ripkas and call it a day

[craggy niche]

Also xatas is cheaper like for my jade I just use xatas over my one as a damage booster because its Hella cheap

[cold salmon]

roar is btter since ur running elemental sandstorm

the statuses from the augment double dips roar

imo at least

[craggy niche]

Yeah roar is just outright better mostly lol

[lean tendon]

I don't know really but your teammates can dismember for you

[craggy niche]

Xatas is cheap tho so I use it in some places

Also good for stripping overguard

[solemn kiln]

i see

and should i switch out my archon mods?

this is my melee

[long portal]

you've made it a bit more difficult to proc the influence effect

[solemn kiln]

any suggestions to make it better?

ive kinda just been beating things to death in sp

[solid delta]

why magnetic rush?

[craggy niche]

For overguard

[solemn kiln]

extra attack speed mostly, would elementalist be better?

[long portal]

so much blast weighting lol

[cold salmon]

whats ur rationale with running Elemental Sandstorm 😮

[solid delta]

you should unlock exilus and get a tennokai mod

[craggy niche]

Fun and different way to okay warframe

[solemn kiln]

extra procs mostly cause once sandstorm stops and i start hitting with melee

[long portal]

with sc<100 you can only proc 1 elemental effect at once, rn all your other elements are working against proccing electric which makes it harder to turn the influence effect on

[solemn kiln]

you would be surprised with how many enemies i can bunch together using sandstorm

[solemn kiln]

would galvanized elemenatlist help? getting up to 12x combo isnt hard

between that and weeping wounds i havent had any hard times getting proces

[lean tendon]

The elemental weighting on this is sus

[solemn kiln]

how so?

[lean tendon]

Too many statuses

[long portal]

i mean if it works for you it works but on any given hit you've only got a ~3% chance to proc the influence effect

[long portal]

by my math

[lean tendon]

You literally just want Electricity mod

[long portal]

i didn't actually break out the calculator though lol

[night laurel]

too much blast weighting

[solemn kiln]

was 15%

[long portal]

I guess i didn't factor in weeping

[lean tendon]

Can you hover the status chance stat? What's the weighting?

[solemn kiln]

idk why warframe doesnt like me using prt scrn button -.-

[lean tendon]

Eh I would just do electricity mod only

[night laurel]

borderless fullscreen?

[solemn kiln]

i think so i have to mouse over to my 2nd monitor for it to actually let me print scrn

[next estuary]

Damn you have two monitors? That's rad dude

[solemn kiln]

3 .-.

[next estuary]

DAMN

[cold salmon]

try win + shift + s, might work better for u

[night laurel]

imo, shave them off and just have electricity on for Influence. is there a reasoning to have mag + blast on?

[solemn kiln]

shields and extra damage?

id like to go thru sp a bit faster lol

[lean tendon]

You'll have better damage just perma proc elec imo

Especially with Venato Tau passive

[fierce sapphire]

Before I make a poor decision, on khora's whipclaw, how can you get the damage and crit chance up, because if there's no good answer that isn't a steel mod, then I'm gonna use a maxed sacrifical steel

[solemn kiln]

that and i think i was getting fire procs which is what i was using the archon mod for

[lean tendon]

You run Roar as well right? So even better since that double dips

[solemn kiln]

i dont have roar yet its on my list

[lean tendon]

Yeah you either want roar or faction mods to your venato

For the dot double dip its really op

I think its triple dip actually

[solemn kiln]

switch to this then and get roar

[lean tendon]

When it IS double dipping >> One value is applied to multiple instance formulas, say (1) Our Smite multiplier appears once in melee base damage formula, (2) a second time in the status formula for DoT, and in our case, (3) Smite appears a third time in the formula for Melee Influence. Our Smite mod has therefore been 'triple dipped'.

Copied from somewhere else

[cold salmon]

damage wise its accumulating whipclaw augment, crit i personally just run bloodrush and galva steel

[solemn kiln]

should i switch out blood rush then for another mod?

[lean tendon]

Condition Overload, Galv Steel, Galv Elementalist, Shocking Touch, Primed Reach, Blood Rush, Weeping Wounds

Then if you use roar then I guess just use Primed Pressure Point instead of faction mod

[night laurel]

roar gives dot double dip?

didnt know that, neat

i'm behind on roar/xata tech

[lean tendon]

Xata is more on the Blast interaction

I abuse it on my Titania

[night laurel]

blast interaction?

[cold salmon]

triple dips or smth, i dont rmb

basically making blast deals tons of damage

[night laurel]

ooo

very cool

[lean tendon]

Blast procs = xata triggers off the damage

[cold salmon]

too many words to read for me but if ur a reader here u go

pulled directly from the wiki

[lean tendon]

When xata triggers off blast, faction damage is applied yet again (for a total of 3 times) and elemental mods increase its damage even though blast procs themselves aren't increased by heat or cold or elemental mods

[night laurel]

thats wild....

[lean tendon]

TLDR of a reddit post

[solemn kiln]

59% increase of damage for my inaros from roar

[fierce lark]

banes/roar also triple dip forced status infusions

[fierce lark]

like oraxia 4 saryn 3 cyte resupply

[lean tendon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/s/LFJ9FowoXO

[fierce lark]

applies to the base dmg, applies to the extra damage instance from the infusion, and applies to the forced status from the extra hit

[thorn oak]

crit damage or do i want all the multishot in the world

[cold salmon]

i would take multishot

60% cc and cd is not a lot

[night laurel]

and reconifex heat..

ferb, i know what we're gonna do today!

[thorn oak]

i am going to be at like 1000 multishot

[lean tendon]

Not enough multishot

[night laurel]

effectively firing a solid wall

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Arca Plasmor

[thorn oak]

the best part is I dont even like this gun

[next estuary]

"What's that gun loaded in?"
"Cement"

[thorn oak]

kinda trying to find a reason to use it

[cold salmon]

question: how do ppl levelcap with hildryn, i would assume one shot from enemies would deplete her shield and she will be then be a sitting duck

[thorn oak]

i assume running viral heat is the move on the hek

[night laurel]

THATS CONK CREAT BABEYY!!!

https://tenor.com/view/vesuvius-baby-baby-ash-gif-2339947883921805569

[velvet pulsar]

I assume diversified denial distractions + squadmates

[cold salmon]

waiting

[velvet pulsar]

Now better

[cold salmon]

lmao

so its just "kill enemies before they get to hit u"

[solemn kiln]

they cant hurt you if they are dead

[velvet pulsar]

Her 4th ability lifts enemies

What's left are eximus

People kill glowing eximus enemies with first priority

[thorn oak]

should i use crux on the hek

[velvet pulsar]

Why not Overcharge?

[thorn oak]

what is that one

[velvet pulsar]

More multishot

[thorn oak]

idk

is the hek actually useable outside of shooting 1 thing

[cold salmon]

do ppl even build crux for status

[mighty flare]

vazarin

[thorn oak]

like i feel like this thing is so pointless outside of being able to group

[velvet pulsar]

It's a shotgun

[night laurel]

boss raw dmg

[velvet pulsar]

Use it like a shotgun

[thorn oak]

i use the kohm and the boar (with and without incarnon) and they seem like the best feeling shotguns to me so far

honorable mention the bubonico

[velvet pulsar]

Fire rate

[lean tendon]

Kuva Hek is a GOATed shotgun

[thorn oak]

okay if im reading this right I need 350 energy to max out overcharge?

[lean tendon]

Honestly all Heks are GOATed

Makes me feel like Doom Guy

[velvet pulsar]

U didn't read it right

[cold salmon]

or u didnt math it right

[night laurel]

the sad tigris in the corner:

[thorn oak]

gain 35% of max energy

[velvet pulsar]

1000 energy max

[thorn oak]

okay wow I am not using overcharge then

[wraith sinew]

Saw something with a caliban weapons platform using subsume xatas whisper, but would that work just using xaku in the first place?

[cold salmon]

fuun fact: garuda can proc overcharge very easily

[velvet pulsar]

Caliban can do more

[wraith sinew]

I think it was using blast damage

[wraith sinew]

I no helminth yet

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[wraith sinew]

Could I theoretically just use my kuva ogris with xatas whisper then

[thorn oak]

ok so far im sitting at 92 multishot

[velvet pulsar]

If u use things which deal blast dmg but not status, caliban can force blast status out of it, and then it'll synergize with xata

[wraith sinew]

What weapon is this 😭

[thorn oak]

kuva hek alt fire

[wraith sinew]

How does Calibro force blast status?

[velvet pulsar]

"if I can't max it, I don't wanna use it"

Half charged Overcharge is still 175% MS

[velvet pulsar]

Tau status

[wraith sinew]

Oh yeah

[thorn oak]

bold assumption that im using flow on my warframe

[wraith sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/exploding-cat-cat-car-meow-explosion-gif-13527070362113797677

[velvet pulsar]

Battery?
Syndicate effects?

Archon shards?

Exilus mod?

Lots of options for energy max

[thorn oak]

no one that i play do I need extra energy and im not gonna build my wwarframe around a gun

[wraith sinew]

For a gauss nuke build do I just go strength and range or is there a specific subsume I could be using?

[thorn oak]

will say crux feels very good on it tho

[cold salmon]

roar

[night laurel]

rawr

[solemn kiln]

rhino about to be the most farmed warframe

[night laurel]

the children yearn for plain old damage increases with funny interactions

[cold salmon]

also i think u dont actually need to push for really high strength with ts nuke on gauss, with redline, as long as u fully armor strip with ts, u will still nuke even at 100% base abi strength

also need good effiiciency because u will be spamming ts a lot

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine archon flow

[lean tendon]

When in doubt, Roar it out

[craggy niche]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[cold salmon]

imagine roar getting reworked and nerfed

[night laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-cillian-murphy-cillian-murphy-peaky-blinders-gif-1787947313354313976

[solemn kiln]

xD

[lean tendon]

It already got nerfed before, no?

[next estuary]

It did??

[lean tendon]

at least the subsume versions

[next estuary]

Oh

[lean tendon]

50% normal vs 30% subsume

[midnight horizon]

He always his, him as a frame and with good subsume? You better know he will be used a lot

[midnight horizon]

It's always nerfed when subsumed

[lean tendon]

yeah ik

that's what I meant about roar being nerfed

they just made all damage buffing abilities nerfed immediately xd

[velvet pulsar]

Xata

[solemn kiln]

lame

[velvet pulsar]

Xata also didn't get an augment yet

[solemn kiln]

there needs to be a better way to farm the shedu

[lean tendon]

Xata didn't get hit too hard tbf since the only nerf for it was being limited to 1 damage buffing ability per frame. Abilities like Eclipse and Roar got their values nerfed while also being limited to 1 damage buffing ability per frame.

[velvet pulsar]

Archon hunt

[craggy niche]

wait so does archon continuity just straight up double the damage output of gastro?

oh nevermind that's gas

rekt

does this look like a pretty good grendel build if i'm really leaning into the whole limp bizkit theme

[solemn kiln]

its only the last map right?

[craggy niche]

i guess now that i look at it in a screenie i don't really need cproj

[mighty flare]

how are you generating energy

[craggy niche]

just kinda picking it up and nourish man

zarimann for startup and let er rip tater chip

[solemn kiln]

whats the highest damage amp i can make?

cause the one i made back when cetus was the only open world map isnt cutting it anymore xD

[velvet pulsar]

IDK
It drops from some sentient enemy

[thorn oak]

dude i am an idiot

i just bought the complete wrong mod

no i didnt the guy gave me shattering justice instead of scattered justice and i didnt realize 🤦‍♂️

[velvet pulsar]

He scattered your justice by shattering.

[night laurel]

the 177 or 777 bomb, i guess? people just use 147/547 usually

[thorn oak]

indeed he did and he is not responding now

[solemn kiln]

777?

[solemn kiln]

i have no idea what any of that is x.x

[night laurel]

hold on i dont have the amp graph handy

[night laurel]

LOL

[velvet pulsar]

U can nuke with phahd scaffold

[night laurel]

thank you rev

[solemn kiln]

oh my o-o

[velvet pulsar]

Exard scaffold spam is funny

[night laurel]

(its the cedo bouncing glaive one)

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure we just picked the top 2 lmao

[solemn kiln]

looks like i need to get my vox solaris rep up x.x

[karmic badger]

Rank 4 for amp parts

Rank 5 is arcanes

[solemn kiln]

im like rank 1?

[karmic badger]

Could probably get away with a 143 in the meantime

[solemn kiln]

im running a 211 atm

[thorn oak]

i am at 148 multishot

shotgun vendetta is what i want to use on the kuva hek

[cold salmon]

utried crux yet?

[thorn oak]

the only thing that seems useful about crux is the efficiency

[cold salmon]

oh wait

im stupid i thought u were talking about kuva kohm

[thorn oak]

crux on kohm is good i have a kohm setup that works well

i have toxin on my riven

i think im gonna swap prime charge shell for shell shock tho so it evens out the status

[charred mantle]

I should've asked this here:
.
.
Does Xata's Whisper affect Styanax's ultimate?

[mighty flare]

no

[weak sonnet]

should i swap something for status chance, if so witch mod

[karmic badger]

10% status isn't worth pumping unless its galvanized elementalist. Speaking of, you'll want mods like galvanized Steel, Galvanized Elementalist, Condition Overload, weeping wounds, Blood rush.

You don't need attack speed since Valkyr has warcry, just stick with raw electric

[velvet pulsar]

What melee other than coda Pathocyst has highest number of hits in 5s?

Sampotes shockwaves?

[shell tundra]

How much strength does Chroma need? Rn I’m at 406 and tbh it feels a bit overkill

[nocturne spindle]

for the pathocyst are you counting the maggots?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[craggy niche]

IS the braton incarnon good?

ish

[velvet pulsar]

Wondering about best melee to stack Valkyr's passive without kills

Which means number of hits

[solemn kiln]

is there any way to get base electric damage and fire on a weapon?

[velvet pulsar]

Shock Trooper or Thermal Transfer

[summer dawn]

reconiflex too

[velvet pulsar]

Right that

[weary coral]

So, i recently got an augment mod for Mirage, but everytime i go to equip it on Mirage Prime, the mod is non existent.
It shows up on the mod table and I ranked it to rank 3, but it doesn't show up in the mod selection when I try to equip it on Mirage.

Any idea whats going on?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes.

[weary coral]

What's going on then?

[velvet pulsar]

U subsumed off the ability

[weary coral]

Now i feel absolutely stupid, i forgot i did lmfao

thank you so much

[random prawn]

Opinions on the build?

I'm using varizan for more survivability

[summer dawn]

looks fine, I like to subsume nourish over his 3. you can also run energy nexus instead of primed flow and arcane energize then too

[random prawn]

Oh I'm using dethcube for more energy, I just love me energy

[velvet pulsar]

If it doesn't shield hate, then mystic bond

[midnight horizon]

What's up with Mystic Bond?

[random prawn]

Cheeseburger🤤

[midnight horizon]

Beesechurger

[worn mortar]

anything i could change here for some more damage nourish soon tm grendel is carfting

damage felt low on a netracell

around 200k average hit with red crits

low end about 60k for a hit

[random prawn]

"Beesechurger" -... .-. --- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... .... .- -.- . ... .--. . .- .-. .🥀

[severe bough]

Looks good ideally if u dont wanna use 1 with teslabank subsume nourish/roar

[severe bough]

U can swap out hunters adrenalin persistance and umbral fiber and vitality for more range and some duration

[random prawn]

DON'T HURT ME

NO
NO
NO

[worn mortar]

hunters adrenaline is my energy economy

[abstract axle]

don't drop hunters, but you def can dump persist

[severe bough]

Equilibrium >

[worn mortar]

i play mainly solo so im always taking damage

[abstract axle]

equilibrium is a lot of energy, hunters is infinite

[worn mortar]

^

[abstract axle]

also I really don't like equil in general without forced generation in the kit

[worn mortar]

hmm duration would probably be good

[midnight horizon]

What does Hunters do?

[worn mortar]

and then stack roar on top of everything

energy on damge

[night laurel]

energy on health dmg

[abstract axle]

hunters adrenaline gives you 45% of the damage you take as energy

[night laurel]

equil is good with synth deconstruct

[midnight horizon]

That would be good for Nidus and Inaros... Though I have Rage for now

[night laurel]

but if you healthtank hun adrenaline/rage is energy for days

[abstract axle]

rage is the same mod. 5% won't matter in any direction

[worn mortar]

in the case of dropping persist what should swap it for?

battery isnt needed since the energy economy is fine

ittl be even better when i get nourish

[abstract axle]

if you want duration, you can use concentration

[worn mortar]

i know my archon shards are wack too

[worn mortar]

ill prob just grab primed ocntinuity

[severe bough]

Battery

[abstract axle]

you could also throw on battery to free flow if you'd rather a frame slot

[midnight horizon]

Aight

Though question. Bc I have a stupid build

Triple Umbra Persistence Vauban :3333

[severe bough]

I will not take 24/7 dmg with valkyr

[worn mortar]

actually thats tech

[midnight horizon]

Would it work?

[worn mortar]

yeay most likely

[midnight horizon]

^

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[abstract axle]

I've done a lot of testing with forcing triple umbra. it will work, the question is at what price

[worn mortar]

in lower level content it could be problematic but higher level content where my shields are almost alwasy down not rlly

[midnight horizon]

Oh.... Damn that's hard

Making Vauban as Tanky like his sexy body

[abstract axle]

run decaying key to deal with that

[worn mortar]

?

enlughten me

[night laurel]

shieldgate tech

[midnight horizon]

What does Tech Do?

[abstract axle]

not anymore

[night laurel]

we do have cata shields?

[worn mortar]

i am pretty new i just love buildcrafting lel

[midnight horizon]

That's the other "Mecha" right? Kavat side?

[abstract axle]

decaying dragon key is a gear item that drops your shields by 75%, and minimizes the shield gate timer

[worn mortar]

holy tech

[abstract axle]

yes, but we aren't discussing actual tech mods, they mean "tech" as "technique", as in a strategy

[midnight horizon]

Ahhhh OK ok sorry hahahaha

[abstract axle]

all g lol

[worn mortar]

hmm im gonna see how this plays since persistence was pretty useless

im so happy to invest another forma 😋

i mean the obv choice for lvl cap is this very bad arcane

but ew

[night laurel]

yes this thank you 😭 had to afk

nowadays we can do this with catalyzing shields iirc

[worn mortar]

i cant wait to have sp unlocked im cooked with low level enemies

[abstract axle]

but to jump back a minute, vauban is a poor triple umbra candidate for 3 reasons

1. lowish armor at 210, means two shards, and he has no orb generation for health conversion
2. no low/zero animation spammable
3. overwhelming lack of need

[abstract axle]

yeah, steel path is a pain to get, but its where the real content starts

[worn mortar]

i cant wait

[abstract axle]

though valkyr will crush sp too lol

[worn mortar]

i think i overbuilt (i came from poe)

[worn mortar]

i struggle in low level content just becasue i kill everything too fast + no enemy density

[deep spade]

what's the ability icon?

[abstract axle]

doesn't sound like struggling lol, but if you are having trouble staying alive due to being unable to stack the passive, swap in molt reconstruct instead of battery

[worn mortar]

roar

[abstract axle]

roar

[deep spade]

ty

[abstract axle]

sometimes the best inject option, sometimes the only

[worn mortar]

i mean with energy economy and combo

[night laurel]

rawr

[abstract axle]

the key will help with energy since it'll help you take damage

[worn mortar]

i also tried condition overload but diriga couldnt primer faster than i killed

[abstract axle]

I don't even bother priming in low level sp, its not needed unless endurance.

[worn mortar]

the high enemy levels were so fun

i ran outta netracells for the week tho

did get 3 shards 2 of wich were yellow 😭

[abstract axle]

rn you need all colors

yellows have only one good mode, but I use them on the majority of frames: cast speed

[velvet pulsar]

Free ability cast because not using shield hate

[hot laurel]

coda hirudo build ??

[midnight horizon]

Shield hate? Or shield gate?

[velvet pulsar]

Influence & Doughty build

[velvet pulsar]

Yes.

[midnight horizon]

Amen.... I guess

[velvet pulsar]

"u hate ur shields so much, u reduce them"

• shield gate

[midnight horizon]

Fair fair

[queen sandal]

Vote ends in two days so please vote ❤️ #1477886221643415747 message

[night laurel]

temple please dear lord just one more person on temple

[velvet pulsar]

My vote DEcides if Excal will win or Temple

[late ice]

Where can i find a lv cap build for glory

One that shreds ppl

[wild mango]

looking for some assistance with weapon builds, melee specifically at the moment. i usually use dual blades of some sort due to enjoying the base faster attack speed, currently using dual ichor and dual keres prime, but have a couple other options im open to using if i have them and the right mods.

[velvet pulsar]

Do u have incarnon on ichor?

[wild mango]

yeah i do

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly it's difficult to back off from it for a while after u realize how good of a nuking it can do

[wild mango]

yeah, just finding its not handling sp end game stuff amazingly, its struggling a bit

[velvet pulsar]

Surprising

Though it should have a weapon buffer to assist it in higher lvl

[velvet pulsar]

My arbi run with dual ichor

[wild mango]

this is my current build

[velvet pulsar]

What arcane is that?

You should use Melee Vortex

[wild mango]

duplicate if i remember correctly

idk if i have atm

[velvet pulsar]

Lemme send u my build

Also getting melee vortex is easier than duplicate

Arcane is Melee Vortex

Incarnon gimmick allows u to create clouds, clouds aren't affected by status chance mods or even the status chance incarnon perk, so it's not worth to use the perk

I still have to make some changes to my build, like replace Galvanized Elementalist with regular Elementalist.

Also gotta replace the 60-60 mods with proper element mods

[final wasp]

Why is sure footed played a lot in mele builds?

[velvet pulsar]

It's not.

People might use it only if the melee has some self stagger AoE. Which I can't really think of much right now.

[cold salmon]

its just generally being used a lot, not specific to melee builds only

[cold salmon]

the ones i can think of are just glaives

[wild mango]

ahh gotcha ty for the build, seems better than what i have already ahahaa

[fierce lark]

primed sure footed is used a lot in general, because knockdown/stagger immunity prevents a lot of potentially lethal scenarios from occurring and is generally very strong qol, especially for only an exilus mod

[final wasp]

Qol?

[fierce lark]

quality of life

[velvet pulsar]

Quantity of Legs

[fierce lark]

even without factoring in self-stagger, random knockdowns from blitz/arson eximus, getting yanked over by ancients or grineer scorpions, or any other number of staggering/knockdown effects from enemies can do anything from disrupting your flow of play to forcefully causing you to die from being cc locked and unable to shieldgate/heal/kill things

and since it’s usable in the relatively low-value exilus mod slot, it’s a no-brainer to use on most frames, if you have it

i would only not use it on frames that have consistent overguard generation, or some way to immune statuses/knockdown otherwise

(if i had it)

[wild mango]

any busted nataruk builds for end game/sp/anything thats always a nightmare to run?

[fierce lark]

assuming no sharpshot, use primary deadhead instead and swap serration for elementalist

(or bane)

if you dont have arcanes or primed cryo rounds at all, swap blast mods for pure electric

if you care to add the exilus, put in terminal velocity

[wild mango]

thank you!

[final wasp]

Does capasitanse count as overguard?

[fierce lark]

nope, overguard is the little white number. the purple one is overshield, that's mostly the same as regular shields

[final wasp]

Oh whats the difference?

[karmic badger]

Shields have 50% DR, overguard has none, but it does have status immunity

[final wasp]

Dr? Duraitoon?

[karmic badger]

Damage reduction

[final wasp]

Wow so even normal sheilds have that?

[karmic badger]

Also all damage must chew through overguard first, while with shields, toxin can bypass it

[final wasp]

Isnt toxin a status effect?

[late hemlock]

Toxin as a damage type goes through shields

Regardless of status

[karmic badger]

Yes, but there's also toxin damage, both the proc and direct damage bypasses shields

[coral crest]

Toxin damage passes through shields

Toxin status effect inflicts toxin damage

It's that simple smh

[karmic badger]

[late hemlock]

If only

[fierce lark]

imagine hildryn

[atomic parrot]

Mahogara build for caliban

[final wasp]

🫡

[midnight horizon]

You can use a simple Multishot build with Blast or Electric in it if you want

And both ways works

[solemn plover]

For vauban nuke build what can I use instead of arcane hotshot

[patent solstice]

What’s a good path and build for braton incarnon?

[rocky mason]

Lmao

But why

[wild mango]

thank you

[midnight horizon]

Ye

[midnight horizon]

Arcane Hotshot? For Vauban?

Use Molt Augmented and Molt Efficiency/Arcane Concentration

Vauban needs Durstion

Ye ye

[coral crest]

You know, subsume Pyrotechnics and such

Pretty damn good, surprising you don't know

Though I'd rather use something for lazy survivability

[midnight horizon]

Oh fck yeah, yeah yeah I got in on my list

Ohhhhh when he said nuking, I got Orbital strike in my mind hahahahaha

[solemn plover]

It's a nuke build for vauban

[coral crest]

People call whatever nuke nowadays

If it kills

[midnight horizon]

Eh fair

[coral crest]

Look at me, even I'm named nuclearBox

[quiet laurel]

acuity burston nuke

[night laurel]

if my grandma had thermal sunder she'd be a nuke

[coral crest]

And yet I'm not a nuke

[midnight horizon]

I know... But again I thought you are using ORBITAL strike, Vauban's 3

[coral crest]

You can call Qorvex a walking nuclear reactor and yet-

[midnight horizon]

You are a BLASPHEMYYYYYYY

[solemn plover]

Is that the photon strike then yes

[coral crest]

Ohh

[midnight horizon]

Oh..... Then why are you using hot shot??

[coral crest]

Now we're talking

[midnight horizon]

I knew it's always the ray booms

[solemn plover]

Would molt augmented be better then fam

[midnight horizon]

Yeh