builds-discussion

[novel bear]

I’m not sure what companion you would run with hydroid that can’t proc viral well

[abstract axle]

corrosive would be a strong damage type on anyone else, but hydroid already strips armor, so you are stacking corrosive against stripped targets

[fierce lark]

it's less for viral itself and more for the big number on PCR

[fierce lark]

we're into hypotheticals that don't exist atp

if you shoot something that is fully stripped with a burston incarnon that has an added 300%+ corrosive buff, it's literally going to die in 0.01 seconds

[abstract axle]

if we are going to argue that direction, weapon platforms are irrlevant because the burston will insta kill anyways. the point is, the corrosive buff is a nonbo

[fierce lark]

idk what argument you're trying to make tbh

if you're trying to say hydroid is a bad weapons platform because his buff is "too strong" well then...gl with that i guess? idk lol

any respectable weapon you give a large corrosive elemental buff to is going to obliterate anything in front of, stripped or not

it's buffed against grineer and scaldra, even without external strip it has the added benefit of stripping corrupted, and every other faction falls over when you shoot it anyways

[slow trellis]

so how do i build khora? i got all of her parts now, so im gonna get her done by the end of the week or at least monday

i need a stat stick melee, right?

[fierce lark]

nope, statsticks for pseudos are dead

you mod whipclaw directly

[abstract axle]

the point is that the buff hurts a substantial part of your dps, so the buff is ineffective. And seeing how thats the only point he has as a weapons platform, there being a major hole in it is a downside

[slow trellis]

oh

wait, why do people want ceramic sword rivens then?

[fierce lark]

outburst

[slow trellis]

ceramic sword sucks and the only thing you use(d) it for were statsticks

[abstract axle]

they don't any more

[novel bear]

Initial combo for secondary outburst

[fierce lark]

ceramic dagger has 120 IC built into the incarnon, so people like it for lazy outburst sticking

[slow trellis]

oh, lol

[fierce lark]

more IC from riven = more outbursting

[abstract axle]

though ceramic would be useful if they would finally nerf influence

[fierce lark]

ceramic influence is good

[slow trellis]

how do i mod whipclaw then? anything specific?

[fierce lark]

well "good" is a stretch but it's usable

gas elec heavy spam

[novel bear]

For looting or for general use?

[slow trellis]

uh, let's say both. looting is priority

[novel bear]

Looting uses magnetic and vortex

[slow trellis]

main reason i got khora is for looting but i could see myself using her in other content

[novel bear]

And primed fever strike, with archon cont

[slow trellis]

i dont really know what archon stuff is, i've gotten shards but idk how to use them

[fierce lark]

archon mods are from kahl's garrison

[novel bear]

If you haven’t done veilbreaker, don’t worry about them

[raven python]

guy where can i find that pic with the lich weapons and their best elemets?

[fierce lark]

i think you need to have done veilbreaker to have access to archon shards

[slow trellis]

i've done veilbreaker

[raven python]

thank you

[fierce lark]

the toxin Hunter Munitions builds are outdated now mostly

but otherwise should still be up to date

realistically, you can go magnetic on everything and not go wrong

[novel bear]

Then you should have access to kahl’s garrison, where you can run kahl missions to buy archon mods

[slow trellis]

i do have access to his garrison, yeah. i just haven't done anything cuz idk what archon mods are

[fierce lark]

well

heat on the archguns, elec on the melees, mag on everything else

[slow trellis]

there's like a million billion farms lmfao

[fierce lark]

archon mods are primed mods that are slightly more expensive but come with an additional effect

(except stretch because there's no primed stretch)

[novel bear]

Archon continuity is like primed continuity, but whenever you deal a toxin proc with an ability, you also inflict corrosive

[novel bear]

And intensify

[brittle sleet]

You have to do one Kahl mission at the Drifter's Camp to unlock the guy who sells you the archon mods in exchange for the resources you unlock during the Kahl missions

[fierce lark]

and intensify

i think you need a certain rank as well to get archon mods

which you go up 1 rank every week that you complete the mission until you're max rank

i still find archon flow a little insulting

[steel swift]

can someone help me put togethjer a couple builds? these r my frames

[tepid scaffold]

All very solid frames.

What MR are you? Do you have access to all arcanes/mods etc?

[steel swift]

mr9

[steel swift]

id like to get some new ones to test out new stuff, i azlso have these ready to claim. i just reinsstal;led

[steel swift]

not sure what mods and arcanes i have

[tepid scaffold]

Well

I almost exclusively send out extreme endgame builds, so they might be a bit out of reach for you at the moment

BUT if you wish, I can help you put together a better build for a Fram with what you have currently.

Which of the frames you have, do you like the most?

[steel swift]

probably mesa but i think my mesa build is pretty good, after that id like to build ember and maube khora/wisp?

id like a good nuker ideally

[lucid flint]

do any of you guys have experience with survivability helminths for excalibur, steel path/archimedia need some reco

[novel bear]

Are you healthtanking or shieldgating?

[rapid prairie]

Does hunter adrenaline still work with a channeled ability active?

[steel swift]

@tepid scaffold ?

[novel bear]

Yes

[rapid prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-grin-evil-smile-smirk-haha-gif-6403290434734800133

[lucid flint]

I have both setups available, adaptation vs shield gate setup with fast deflect vigilante vigor and cata shield

[tepid scaffold]

Khora and wisp are fun

Wisp is one of the better frames in the game

As for "nukers" you don't have any traditional nukers, but you do have a few frames that can obliterate a group of enemies with a single ability cast.

Ash, atlas khora etc

[steel swift]

alright word, ill get wisp outta the foundry, how do u build?

[tepid scaffold]

1 sec

[steel swift]

like i said im happy to pick up some new frames, i wanna try some anyways

idm spending a bit of money for plat either as i get back into the game for frames. i got a50% off coupon i intend to use if i enjoy the next bit of the game

[novel bear]

For healthtanking, probably eclipse, or you could try to do persistence, in which case omamori or well of life
For shield gating, you don’t need a survivability subsume, just augur mods and cast 1 when shields go down
If you do go shield gating you would want to put augur mods over fast deflection and vigilante vigor

[tepid scaffold]

Nourish over the 4th

Arcanes are avenger and molt augmented

Shards are a mix of whatever you want, but mostly duration/strength

[lucid flint]

I have augur on secondary and dealing with certain eximus/toxin procs is tough, but yeah eclipse is a good idea

[steel swift]

i only have molt augmented

[steel swift]

i dont have half these mods, just the base version

im mr9 brev

[tepid scaffold]

Base version is fine

[green ocean]

does gauss thermal transfer augment that adds heat dmg to your weapon proc arcane hot shot?

[novel bear]

No

[oblique dust]

Is shield gating the only option for vauban?

[tepid scaffold]

Yep

All others are mediocre at best

[oblique dust]

Damn😭

[near vortex]

Shield gating ain't even hard on Vauban since you want to be mashing abilities anyway

[cold salmon]

huras kubrow/shade invis is another option

[lost flume]

How do u build uriel?

[midnight horizon]

Just put whatever build

But most of them would build Him with high damage or high range with a bit of increased Duration

[tepid scaffold]

Depends what for

Base SP and EDA/TDA- however you want

Maximum potential? Not for the ult.

[lost flume]

Ult?

[tepid scaffold]

His 4

[midnight horizon]

Uriel proc so much heat that it doesn't even matter hahahha

His proc heat is base on how high the enemy health is (the demon in 3)

So the more enemy health are they, the demon in 3 procs more heat

[tepid scaffold]

It'll actively hurt your DPS at level cap with heat weapons actually

[midnight horizon]

Yep

That's why he is good at all content..... Except spy.... He is not quiet, he is too violent hahahahahah

[tepid scaffold]

It's heat inherit, but in reverse.

Objectively makes heat weapons worse at level cap

[tepid scaffold]

...did you read what I said?

His heat procs from his abilities (except his 4) suck

[midnight horizon]

Not really.... It's actually good

[tepid scaffold]

And his 4 is far to clunky to realistically be the focus of a maximized build

[tepid scaffold]

.... it literally makes furis do less damage....

[midnight horizon]

Not as a WP... As a caster, I use Uriel as a Caster

[tepid scaffold]

Do you know how heat inherit works?

[novel bear]

Ability heat procs bad, weapon heat procs good

[tepid scaffold]

We aren't talking about his 4....

[midnight horizon]

I know, his 4 is not his only skill as a caster isn't it?

[tepid scaffold]

His 1 and 3 suck at killing enemies beyond base SP

Objectively bad

[midnight horizon]

How? I've melted a lot of enemies in the SP and above (enemies beyond 2000 in endless conjunction)

[tepid scaffold]

He's best built as a weapons platform if you plan to do anything more then EDA/TDA

[midnight horizon]

I would agree on that tbh

Ya you win on that I would say

[tepid scaffold]

Sir I am going to respectively inform you I exclusively do level cap content

No one who actually does level cap seriously does survival lolol

[midnight horizon]

Aight I guess

[tepid scaffold]

Check the discord tag

[midnight horizon]

Anyways for Uriel Builds

[tepid scaffold]

Uriel can do anything in base SP

But if you want to do more then that, he's best built as a wep platform with his 4 replaced

[midnight horizon]

@lost flume

Most people would just go either High damage or high range... That's most players do on the builds

[midnight horizon]

Idk if it's normal but his 4 is always replaced with Thermal Sunder

Idk... I saw a lot of players do that when I do conjunctions

[tepid scaffold]

Not normal at all

Again- conjunction surv is like the kiddy pool of endurance content

[midnight horizon]

To be fair... I would just apologize for being a bit prideful for being a know-it-all, so yeah I would just say sorry, I was just talking and speaking base on my experience in most part

[night laurel]

who on earth is using thermal sunder on uriel the nuke is right there

[tepid scaffold]

You can do over an hour in conjunction surv and barely be level 500

You do an hour in cascade or disruption and you are at lvl 9999

[midnight horizon]

Eh I just thought I know Uriel as much as the others

[tepid scaffold]

No offense at all

This is WF

People can do whatever they want lol

[midnight horizon]

So that's my bad

[midnight horizon]

Thanks man

[night laurel]

yeah as a testament to free will i run tempest barrage harrow

[tepid scaffold]

Mods pls ban this man

[quiet storm]

Hey, it is the volt guy

Sup

[tepid scaffold]

Volt guy?

[quiet storm]

I saw your volt guide

It was pretty cool

[tepid scaffold]

Oh lol that's from eons ago

Build is more or less unchanged, just minor upgrades over the years

[midnight horizon]

What was the summary of your guide in Volt?

[quiet storm]

Well, I play a melee volt build

[tepid scaffold]

I have min/maxed builds for every frame in the game. I make it a point to fine tune a build for level cap within a day or so of a frames release.

[tepid scaffold]

It's a full loadout but essentially you survive via mass passive crowd control and partial gating while being an absurdly good weapons platform

[tepid scaffold]

Melee volt is 100% valid

I just like to take advantage of the free CD from the shield lol

[quiet storm]

You have recommendations for primary/secondary weapons to go with Melee volt prime?

[midnight horizon]

I'm still figuring out how to make Vauban and Hydroid work properly in proper advance SP (lvl 5000 to lvl cap)

Now Inaros

[quiet storm]

I am temporary using dual keres until I get okina prime and dual viciss

[tepid scaffold]

You should peep the mirage guide

It's quite literally a new archetype of surviving and quite literally snaps mirage in half with how busted it is

[midnight horizon]

I'm still using Nataruk and Torid (Incarnon... Yes but I rarely use Incarnon form)

[tepid scaffold]

I discovered it over a year ago and it became so popular that people now accept it as a "normal" way to survive with some frames lol

[quiet storm]

Oh yeah, I realized something

Is Shock Trooper bug fixed?

[midnight horizon]

Aight I gtg now! It's class time

[quiet storm]

Gl

[tepid scaffold]

Vauban is easy- typically shield gate build

Same with hydroid, though worse

Inaros is easy. Get to >8300 hp, use persistence and grace. GG. Run whatever helminth you want for damage

[tepid scaffold]

Yes

[quiet storm]

Oh thank god

[tepid scaffold]

@quiet storm meant to tag you here

[quiet storm]

Will check it out

[tepid scaffold]

Mirage, The Lethal Bamboozler is the title

TL;DR it relies on statistics to survive, not health or normal shield gating

And yeah. It's busted good

I recently cooked up a similar build for kullervo. Currently on level cap run #8 with it

[night laurel]

oh whoa, that's awesome. do you have a Harrow one? I have an evade + lasting covenant dur/str setup going but i'm branching out to other ventures

[granite socket]

Is it cool to share some fashion here?

[tepid scaffold]

Hilariously enough ninjase beat me to putting out a guide for it by less then an hour. Our builds only differ in 1-2 mods and weapon choice

1 sec

[quiet storm]

I recently just got Atlas Prime. I am going to start building Volt > Xaku > Atlas > Nekros

But gotta get a tank prime

[tepid scaffold]

I run arcane concentration (not precision, was testing something) and run Dual toxo

Obliterates everything effortlessly.

Shards are all tau duration for comfort

[quiet storm]

If you have Artist Role, you should be able to access to fashion channels

[nocturne spindle]

Got a link?

[quiet storm]

Are you in the cascade club server?

[nocturne spindle]

No

[tepid scaffold]

It's in the server that is in my tag

Cascade club -> community builds

[nocturne spindle]

Ah I see

[quiet storm]

I wonder if you can forward the guide here from different servers

[tepid scaffold]

I'll try 1 sec

[night laurel]

thanks a lot! i see crepuscular, where do i get the invis from? unless i'm misunderstanding

[tepid scaffold]

Nope can't link it

[tepid scaffold]

Evade

[night laurel]

oh i thought its the thurible -> nourish build

[tepid scaffold]

Cast 4 > during invulnerability cast 2 > then charge 3 > 4 runs out, cast Evade and go to town with dual toxo (which hits hesdshots with ricochets btw)

[tepid scaffold]

Nope I was mistake lol quoted wrong variant

[night laurel]

this is roughly what ive been doing except my toxos are still cooking and i've been using knell

[tepid scaffold]

Ew gross

Jk

[thorn oak]

what is your mirage build? Like all u need on her for majority of gameplay is omamori with her clones and max strength + little bit of duration

[tepid scaffold]

Dual toxo are just broke af for anything evade

[midnight horizon]

I was thinking Omamori for that super lazy shit hahahahah

[tepid scaffold]

...I'm the guy who discovered omamori mirage lol I have the post history and guide timestamp to prove it

[night laurel]

no no youre right 😔 so tough to get knell going when you're not relaxed in a folded chair on the beach bc its so easy to fumble the 2 shots

[tepid scaffold]

Omamori + recharge gating + evasion/crowd control is goatd

[thorn oak]

oh well I run over 400% strength on mine with omamori and I’ve never had any trouble with anything in the game either than getting bored of how easy she is to play

[midnight horizon]

I have tjag on Vaubs fr fr

[silver oar]

Whats the best built for Peime Yareli with a Kuva Nukor?

[tepid scaffold]

She IS the best wep platform in the game.

There are 2 flavors of my build- zaw and generic wep platform

[night laurel]

btw, for thurible nourish does it want strength and duration? equilibrium necessary?

[thorn oak]

the only thing I use on her if I’m going super high level is expertise and that companion mod that recharges your shield

[nocturne spindle]

You know the funny thing is I arrived at the same build as you (give or take a couple things) just by process of elimination while I was building mirage lol

[night laurel]

sort of like the carcinization of animals

[thorn oak]

cuz you don’t get hit enough so the recharge delay on that companion mod comes back before you get shot again

[tepid scaffold]

Equilibrium isn't needed.

Also PSA- if you ARE NOT using toggled abilities and use zenurik (default best focus now for level cap) then a single tau yellow energy orb effectiveness shard is roughly the same as a maxed Equilibrium if you assume health/energy orbs spawn at a 1:1 ratio

[night laurel]

mfw farmed for a week for madurai tauron

[tepid scaffold]

Energy pulse passive from zenurik is effected by yellow shards

Not the zenurik energy bubble
The PASSIVE

[night laurel]

back in the war mines

[tepid scaffold]

I'm too lazy to regurgitate the math but if you run the math on picking up 1 health orb and 1 energy orb with zenurik passive and equilibrium vs 1-2 tau yellow shards it's better

Equilibrium effects only win if

1. Health spawn more (synth mods on companions, oberon, protea etc)

2. You are using toggled abilities that drain constantly

3. You are not using zenuriks passive

[night laurel]

i see

[tepid scaffold]

If you don't have mod space and only 1 shard? Use a tau purple equi shard

If you don't have mod space and have 2 shard slots? Use yellow if you aren't spamming health orbs or using toggled abilities

2 tau Yellow + zenurik passive is slightly better then a maxed equilibrium

[bitter drum]

does Okina incarnon cold daggers combine with whatever elements you have modded and still proc cold along side combined elements?

[nocturne spindle]

@tepid scaffold say does your mirage guide emphasize zaws purely for their speed? I personally use glaives myself

[tepid scaffold]

It's 2 variants

Zaw and generic wep platform

Zaw is maximum comfort on mirage for level cap

[karmic badger]

It has both cold that mixes and forced cold procs

[tepid scaffold]

But of course she boosts everything to absurd levels so you can use anything decent and be fine

Wanna slam or use guns? Use the generic wep platform

Wanna turn brain off and obliterate? Use zaw

Both are equally good

[bitter drum]

does anyone have a build that has electricity and toxin with melee influence so it procs magnetic, viral, and cold?

[tepid scaffold]

(Mirage zaw also hits for WAY more then glaives fyi)

[nocturne spindle]

My main reason for favoring glaives is cuz mirage clones don't throw their own exodia projectiles

I know they used to

[tepid scaffold]

Zaw hits for 100x more damage tho lol

2.1 billion easy if you build for it vs a few million

Eclipse is still multiplicative on the zaw projectile

But again- you cna use the generic wep platform variant and be just as fine for level cap stuff

But duplicate zaw mirage is a real treat

[nocturne spindle]

Yea I just like my influence pathocyst

[tepid scaffold]

Kills anything in the game without priming or armor strip without even direct impacting

[nocturne spindle]

But I do have a zaw so I know I got options

[tepid scaffold]

Dokrahm V2J seekala is best imcho

[nocturne spindle]

I think that's what I have lemme check

[tepid scaffold]

Rabvee is fine but it only edges out dokrahm if you have a good riven... and any frame that needs that extra damage likely shouldn't be using zaw anyway

[nocturne spindle]

Dang, app doesn't let me see what parts I used

I know it has dokrahm

[tepid scaffold]

Kullervo can use any zaw for what it's worth

Zaw influence is a thing

[nocturne spindle]

Oh yea I use arcane circumvent on mirage too

Cuz big rolls

[tepid scaffold]

Solid addition

If you wanted to meme the build you run a sly vulp as well

[lost flume]

Can uriel fly?

[night laurel]

yeah

1 + jump + roll

[lost flume]

He doesn't fly

Thought he could fly like titania and jade

Maybe his 4th?

[nocturne spindle]

First

You need to roll while in the air

[night laurel]

his 1st makes you fly, you practically turn to a ballistic missile. cant control forward/back but you can control going up/down/l/r

[nocturne spindle]

So jump and press shift on pc

[lost flume]

And on mobile?

[nocturne spindle]

I know there's a roll button

[lost flume]

Found it

😅

Wrong button

[nocturne spindle]

I couldn't get used to the mobile controls but I respect those who do

I'll stick to kbm

[lost flume]

Same

I do it bc I have no other choice

[novel bear]

It’s closer to zephyr than titania/jade/hildryn

[lost flume]

Yea

Hildryn flies?

[novel bear]

Yes

[lost flume]

Thank u btw!

[night laurel]

so bosses all have a cap of the amt of statuses one can deal at them; what arcane would be good to put on for bosses, assuming no ads are around? crux?

i have the reconifex in mind but it could be for any rifles

guy who never shuts up about reconifex: so the reconifex

[fierce idol]

Is melee careen a must have for okina incarnon? Or is melee influence better

[novel bear]

Blight depending on weapon
Bulwark, depending on the frame
Maybe debilitate, probably not
If there’s no adds, energy could be a problem, so I guess exhilarate would work
Frostbite same as blight
Overcharge is a good one if you can keep up energy
Plated round works I guess, but not great
Fractalized reset is probably a bad option
Always use longbow sharpshot on bows

[night laurel]

oh thats very comprehensive, thank you!

plated rounds is theoretically good but that 10s limit is painful

i guess if i have enough fire rate...

[novel bear]

Is there a specific boss you’re looking at for this?

[mighty flare]

Influence better

Assuming you’re actually using it

[novel bear]

Careen is basically for stat sticks

[night laurel]

i had sp void angels in mind (i had an awful time with one where no other enemies spawned and i was doing piss poor damage with an aptitude rifle) and the normal H-09,

but generally "bosses with status caps that need raw damage, but with little enemies around so Deadhead is half-effective"

[wind wasp]

does anyone have a good nyx/nyx prime build i could copy--? preferrably good for SP

[steel swift]

whats a good mr10 weapon

[oblique dust]

How good is purple shards on vauban, specifically the ability damage buff on enemies with electricity

[mighty flare]

not necessary and vauban would prefer qol like casting speed or duration

[lethal aurora]

I need atlas prime build for sp

[karmic badger]

Technically my farming build, buuut, considering i farm in steel path

Also throw on power drift and a couple archon shards to hit 340% baseline strength

[lethal aurora]

Ty ill try it when atlas prime is finished

[karmic badger]

I also subsumed Voruna's helminth onto his 2

[lethal aurora]

Why voruna ?

[karmic badger]

Solves energy issues with a purple equilibrium shard

[lethal aurora]

Oh

[karmic badger]

Enemies with 5 status effects are guranteed to drop orbs

[karmic badger]

This is the fists

With a primer like epitaph I've slammed 6 million dmg out of a single uppercut

[lethal aurora]

Dam tysm for helping me

[drowsy herald]

I wish atlas' fists were exalted like umbra's blade and valkyr's talons. They're so clunky to use

[daring summit]

what a tenet cycron build like? crit? status? hybrid?

[drowsy herald]

Hybrid

[daring summit]

danke

so something like this? helping a friend

[novel bear]

What’s the riven?

[daring summit]

we're dinking with an ennervate build too but his is only 3/5

[novel bear]

I would take off galv crosshairs for an elemental damage mod, it’s hard to hit headshots with chain beams

[daring summit]

we left it off in the ennervate attempts and he likes the not having to aim as hard or aim down sights ever.

[novel bear]

Magnetic might can probably also be taken off, maybe make corrosive with primed convulsion?

[daring summit]

was half on for the crit damage and an extra status type for the galv diffusion proc

[novel bear]

Three crit damage mods is too many, especially when the base cd is bad

But you could keep it on and just put primed heated charge over crosshairs

[cosmic otter]

Primary Deadhead does affect Corinth's airburst explosion damage, right? I'd test some more, but I don't have internet connection

[daring summit]

this is the ennevate we were testing, still need bonus ele dmg?

[novel bear]

Yes

Could go over hornet strike or merciless gunfight, or magnetic might again

[daring summit]

[correct me if im wrong] i was informed that the heat status dmg was based on flat multipliers to damage, like hornet strike or CD bonuses. that adding PHC doesnt affect the status dmg, just the hit dmg

[novel bear]

That’s wrong

Dot damage is affected by elemental mods

[cold salmon]

here, PHC is considered as Heat Damage Bonuses

[velvet pulsar]

U got the context wrong

[cold salmon]

Modded Base Damage: Hornet Strike
Status Damage Bonuses: Pistol Elementalist
Faction Damage Bonuses: Bane Mods

[daring summit]

OH SHIT. that was for my slash builds not heat

[velvet pulsar]

PHC won't affect the status damage if any other source already applied heat status on that same enemy

This is heat inherit trickery

For regular scenario, it works as intended

[novel bear]

That’s also partly why gas and blast are considered worse than heat and electric, they don’t get the bonus damage from mods

[velvet pulsar]

Remove blast from the context

Blast is coded differently in the first place

It scales via stored damage

The 35% of weapon or something

[novel bear]

Blast scales the same way the other dots do, it just can’t receive a bonus from elemental damage in any circumstance
It’s like slash

[velvet pulsar]

Like Valence Formation or gas resupply will boost gas status damage but will they do the same for blast?

[novel bear]

They won’t

Same as slash

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that's what I had to confirm.

[daring summit]

man, now im sad, slash and blast are my two favorite....

[velvet pulsar]

Pretty sure blast gets away with it

Very excusable

[severe bough]

Blast is good

Gas is just shi in almost every case

When fix DE

[velvet pulsar]

They won't fix it.

Their hate for AFK is stronger than game development.

Watch them try to rework gas instead of fixing it.

[cosmic otter]

so primary deadhead does work on corinth prime's airburst, but the explosion is inconsistent at triggering it
so the airburst build should look like this

[karmic badger]

Sporothrix enjoys gas very much since its free AOE that benefits from headshots

[karmic badger]

I feel like for the second build you could drop hammer shot for elementalist

Also if you're not using the incarnon mode, you can get 100% ammo efficiency with crux

[lost vine]

It's mainly to get the 35% crit

[velvet pulsar]

Any specific reason why not electric?

[thorn oak]

just wondering im finally making a vulpaphyla cuz why not

what is like the best options

also

[fierce lark]

martyr symb

[thorn oak]

alright

I think im just gonna get all the vulpahylas and predasites

[fierce lark]

MR good

[thorn oak]

i need to get a kavat to this day I dont have one

i dont have companion slots of course

[fierce lark]

other than diriga and oxylus or w/e its called, you can safely sell non-primed sentinels

[thorn oak]

the problem is they are all primed 😭

I got a hound I dont use I guess

oh and two stupid kubrows

cant even sell them

[fierce lark]

wait why not

[thorn oak]

idk it says i cant

[night laurel]

consign

do it via the incubator menu

[thorn oak]

i got rid of my hound

[fierce lark]

oh yeah right

[thorn oak]

cuz i dont use it

[fierce lark]

you have to consign beasts lol

[thorn oak]

thats annoying

is panzer the best vulpaphyla i can make

i guess it doesnt matter im not gonna use it anyways

[fierce lark]

yes

panzer is one of the best companions period

[thorn oak]

what mutagen and antigen

does it matter

[fierce lark]

not really

[thorn oak]

ok im choosing the madurai antigen

[cold salmon]

only for cosmetic purposes
-# pick the ugly ones

[thorn oak]

oh i thought it actually did something

well i chose whatever the virox one looks like then

tumorous jaw growth

that sounds ugly enough

[cold salmon]

i think it also affects the initial polarity, but u will end up using the polarity no matter which u pick

[thorn oak]

i chose resistance to heat and puncture i guess cuz its the cheapest to make

[fierce lark]

it also affects damage resistances but like w/e

[thorn oak]

i dont plan on getting hit by anything so it shouldnt matter

[fierce lark]

its resistances, not yours

[thorn oak]

oh

they should really explain that better

[fierce lark]

enemies all hit with different weapon types i dont think there's really a bad option

[thorn oak]

it says grants immunity which to me implies that it would give it to me aswell

thank god i was worried reinforced bond didnt work on this

it does

i cannot play without this fire rate bonus

[acoustic bluff]

Ngl I still don’t have it

I just use diriga or hound for resourceful retriever

[thorn oak]

now im gonna have to go thru the torture which is getting mods for this thing

[scarlet bough]

Anybody can share their kuva brakk build?

[velvet pulsar]

Someone screenshot this!

[narrow granite]

I replaced merciless with overcharged and ...wtf * u *

[fierce lark]

it doesn't recognize your max energy amount so it kinda just

yeah

[narrow granite]

funny af tho

[thorn oak]

man i want the fulmin prime bad

[velvet pulsar]

U want it bad?

[white lodge]

Any good builds for Atlas anyone wanna share?

[karmic badger]

I use both

[wide verge]

whats the best wisp build?

[severe bough]

Blast is better on spoto when it comes to aoe

Tho elec is just the best middle route so u dont lose out on to much single target dmg

[severe bough]

Focus on str duration and neutral/positiv range

[wide verge]

Is acceltra good with her?

[severe bough]

Theres no best wisp build there many different variants tho i often use zaws with her

[severe bough]

Ig never really played acceltra tho im sure it works till a certain lvl

[wide verge]

lvl cap?

[severe bough]

Im like 80% sure acceltra cant reach cap unless u might use it with Cyte? Tho idk if cyte acceltra is a thing lmao

And if resupply works with the AoE hit

[wide verge]

rip

what about cedo or trumna?

[karmic badger]

Acceltra can go far, but for the amount of investment, other weapons can go further

[midnight horizon]

Acceltra by far can only reach 1000 plus I think... At least in my experience

[karmic badger]

Corro+cold is a good crit focused setup, but viral with hunter munitions imo is the most comfy

[midnight horizon]

Corro cold on acceltr?

[severe bough]

Corro cold only with primary frostbite tho thats more of a weird choice
Would probably still prefer Viral Heat over Viral HM

[midnight horizon]

Same

[severe bough]

Smth like that mabye more if enough external buffs + strip whatever

[midnight horizon]

HM just doesn't do it tbh hahahah HM is been weakened from the enemy health buff

[midnight horizon]

True

[midnight horizon]

It's always more if that is supported on any weapon hahaha

[karmic badger]

Imo the acceltra's status chance is too low to support 2 elements, especially since you're probably running primed cryo, the heat weighting is too low. Might as well let the crits offer another status proc

[midnight horizon]

That's why my end build for Acceltra is pure electric

Just like my Nataruk

I migjt do that now tbh

[karmic badger]

Heat is better because you can stack a couple dozen quickly, and they'll refresh each other. But the acceltra doesn't really have that level of status application. In my experience i can apply double the slash procs over heat

[midnight horizon]

Yup, that's why I go Electrix

Bc... It just work

[wide verge]

wwhats the best warframe?P

[severe bough]

Theres no best warframe

Certain ones are just braindead

[wide verge]

tell me the ones

[severe bough]

Nokko

Titania

[wide verge]

whats the most braindead?

[severe bough]

Ig nokko

But there so many frames that are braindead

[wide verge]

what about gauss, wisp protea? sevagoth etc

xaku

mirage

[severe bough]

Yea

[wide verge]

I heard mirage had a great dps

[midnight horizon]

Revenant.... Press 2 and you are immortal

[midnight horizon]

Ehhh... Yeah sure

Not a fan of Mirage though

[wide verge]

rlly?

[midnight horizon]

Yup

[wide verge]

so I shall get rev?

[midnight horizon]

Up to you but warning.... You will have bad habits if you get him early on

You won't be able to mod properly and might rely on Rev on most part

[tepid plover]

Hey guys just want to ask Can I improve this built more

[wide verge]

Completed full main story

I Mostly just play steelpath

[midnight horizon]

So if me? I won't recommend it unless you have the knowledge of modding from weapons to warframes

[midnight horizon]

There are ways to survive in SP that doesn't need invulnerability to survive

Just sayin

[knotty halo]

so im not to knowledge in all the frames, whats like... the best Melee DPS based frame? I dont really have anything prime related sadly so im sorta just looking at non-prime stuff

[midnight horizon]

Kullervo

[wide verge]

Well I use protea shield gating

[midnight horizon]

His entire kit is basically melee platforming

[midnight horizon]

Good, that's a nice frame

I use Vauban, Hydroid and Lavos at most part

[wide verge]

Im missing a 4 platinum part from xaku prime

[trim hill]

Looks at name
You don't say...

[knotty halo]

How do i go about getting his blueprint? Im looking at the frame page and i wont let me buy it

[midnight horizon]

Like..... This is my Lavos situation

[midnight horizon]

Do you have Duviri Experience open?

[wide verge]

U need aegis for that

[maiden oracle]

Duviri time

[knotty halo]

i did the duvarir story quest thingy

[wide verge]

im master 14 😢 . I need mastery 15 for lot of guns

[maiden oracle]

Gotta fight Kullervo in certain Duviri cycles for his Essence and then trade that for his BPs

[maiden oracle]

Yeah it kinda sucks
Get on the MR grind

[midnight horizon]

Yes, that's my shield gate

Fast Deflection, Catalysing Shield and Aegis (my Aegis is R0 and it works super well)

[midnight horizon]

I'm on thay hahahah

[wide verge]

I will refuse.

I got my dear acceltra. Cedo, trumna, vadaraia etc are not needed

[trim hill]

I think max MR needed for weapons is 18? Or has it lowered since a while back?

[midnight horizon]

Cedo? Cedo Prime?

[maiden oracle]

Nah man trust me

[wide verge]

prime ofc

[maiden oracle]

Trumna is a fun gun

[trim hill]

Oh no, bro... Vadarya is so goated, it's unreal

[maiden oracle]

If you like Acceltra you'll love the Trumna Prime

[midnight horizon]

Last I checked the highest you get (without rivens) is 17

[midnight horizon]

Cedo prime is Mr15.......... So how are you able to use Cedo Prime at Mr14?

[trim hill]

Ever since I built Vadarya, I don't want to run any other primary. One of the most fun AND viable guns I've used yet

[midnight horizon]

Something is fishy here

[maiden oracle]

He's saying he doesn't need Prime methinks

[midnight horizon]

He has Cedo Prime

[trim hill]

No, he said he has Acceltra

[maiden oracle]

Yeah

[wide verge]

I just said cedo prime is not needed

[maiden oracle]

And that Cedo and Trumna Prime aren't needed since they're behind MR15

[midnight horizon]

Oh OK aight

[wide verge]

In foundry yes

[midnight horizon]

Anyways, I am excited for my Inaros Prime tmr

[trim hill]

Love that guy

[midnight horizon]

Ah nice, it's a good gun

[midnight horizon]

Yeah, they said he has good CC and Tanky too? so I gotta try

[wide verge]

is vadarya or trumna prime better?

[midnight horizon]

I love me some Tanky CC frame (bc I made Vauban Tanky as hell)

[midnight horizon]

I can't answer that because I don't use those guns, sorry tenno

[trim hill]

Incredibly tanky, great CC, and a really fun summoner/sandstorm builds if you like having those playstyles as options

[midnight horizon]

Say less, I'm more excited

[trim hill]

I prefer Vadarya, but I think most people would agree Trumna is better

[wide verge]

ah alr.

who is the best afk warframe?

[midnight horizon]

I'm just waiting for Dread and Hate Incsrnon

[midnight horizon]

Rev and Octavia

[wide verge]

Anyways I just got wisp prime so I would want a build thats good.

[midnight horizon]

Rev is immortal, Octavia is basically place 1 and be invisible.... They just kill themselves through her 1 while not shooting your weapon

I have octavia and I use that if I am SUPER LAZH

[trim hill]

Trumna is a much simpler weapon to use with big boom alt fire. Vadarya does tons of status and big damage, but it's more deliberate and struggles slightly against status-immune targets. Trumna can usually brute force through the mobs that Vadarya has trouble with, but Vadarya has more consistent AOE damage than Trumna.

[wide verge]

Cedo was in the poll too

cedo prime*

[midnight horizon]

I really ant to use Daikyu Prime fr fr

[trim hill]

Cedo is just insane, and nothing can really replace it. Even if you don't like the gun itself, I think it's good to have one just for the status spread

[wide verge]

how to make it better?

[trim hill]

Well... Remove Retribution firstly

[midnight horizon]

Aight time for me to be ae dishwasher

Cya tennos!!!!!

[trim hill]

You can probably go for an Augur mod for cheap strength/range/duration, if you'd like. I'd slot some more range myself for Breach Surge, since it can deal some really good damage. Would make it just a bit more comfy

And slotting an Augur mod over Retribution will allow you to max rank your Stretch mod

[wide verge]

I can use helminth to use roar

Actually I think it would be good to be a buffwe

[trim hill]

You'd typically subsume over her 4, so the range for Breach Surge would still be somewhat relevant

[wide verge]

and main dmg dealer is 4?

wait

I mean weapon

[trim hill]

It is, but it ends up not scaling as well as her other abilities. You can always lose her 2, but her 2 does add some very nice survivability (I don't like her 2, personally)

[wide verge]

Shall I lose her 2 or 4?

[trim hill]

Up to you. Most choose 4, but if you are running heavy health tanking with her buffs, you can probably lose her 2. It depends on your playstyle, mostly

[wide verge]

so how would the build look like?

[trim hill]

Slot either Augur Secrets/Message/Reach over Retribution, and rank up Stretch. There's some fine-tuning you can do later on, but there's a lot of ways to build Wisp

You've got a good foundation already

[wide verge]

is this the best wisp build?

or if I choose roar over her 4 then precision intensity

[trim hill]

It's a good one fosho. Idk about the best, tbh. I don't main Wisp, I play her here and there

For instance, I run two augments on her, so I'd be saccing something important in that build. I can sub other stuff out, but I run Persistence + Arcane Guardian for health tanking, myself. Completely different mod set, almost

[wide verge]

In that build what I showed what would be good replacement for augur secrets

this?

[trim hill]

Yeah, your build looks solid!

[wide verge]

then roar on the 4th?

[wide verge]

btw ty for helping

[trim hill]

Roar on the 4th if you'd like, ye

[karmic badger]

Odd cost mods hurt me

[daring summit]

i think this wisp is close to what you are starting with, but a little better. flow isnt really necessary, archon stretch can keep you well topped up. roar is your biggest energy investment and that still isnt 1/2 your available. if you're still concerned, use 1 tau blue shard for max energy, otherwise, i'd go (all tau, of course) 1 cast speed and, 3 strength, and your choice cast speed, strength, armor, energy. for arcances, drop aegis, you arent shield stacking/gating. i'd either go energize or something for more damage from the preferred weapon slot

[velvet pulsar]

How about 0?

[daring summit]

well that is definably NOT odd, while also being definitely odd.

[coral crest]

More like mending SHIT

[velvet pulsar]

Dang what has happened to u

U should've said "more like bore Ragnarok"

[trim hill]

Who up mending they shot

[dusty dragon]

quick check, does cunning drift make gauss faster, or no?

[narrow granite]

no

[karmic badger]

Mach rush is sprint speed

[dusty dragon]

do people keep multiple copies of corrupted mods at different ranks for different builds?

[trim hill]

Ye

[dusty dragon]

damn need to pick up some extras

[brittle sleet]

Some people do, not everyone does, to be clear

But there is definite value in it

[dusty dragon]

im trying to tweak the stat spread on my gauss build

[compact cypress]

what should change on lavos?

[dusty dragon]

looks really good tbh

[trim hill]

Change your energy colors to something blinding. If that's already done, then you have the perfect build

[dusty dragon]

more caster focused than mine, but thats just personal preference at this point

[undone dust]

i wish his passive was refreshable and you didnt have to wait until the timer ran out, it just makes him an uncomfy persistentence frame for me but either way the build looks good

[trim hill]

Uncomfy for the status immunity, you mean?

[dusty dragon]

FR

[undone dust]

yeah, there's always like a split second where you can just get shafted by something before it procs again

[trim hill]

Yeah, that's totally fair

[undone dust]

usually i just run aegis and double shield regen but then again i run weapons lavos so i definitely have more free space than a caster setup

[compact cypress]

yeah i might make one focused more on the weapon platform side but lavos is such a fun caster

[compact cypress]

havent thought of that
thanks for the idea😘

[trim hill]

Yeeeees... And now join pubs, yeeeess....

It should, you just have to slot it in your arsenal instead of your melee weapon now

[narrow granite]

would this apply to invis triggered by arcane trickery?

[spiral chasm]

Yeah should be

[trim hill]

I think it only applies to Smoke Screen's invis, iirc. Not sure

[spiral chasm]

Doubt it

[trim hill]

I remember something being finicky when I was running Shade + Ash, but idk what exactly

[spiral chasm]

You can try and check tho

[narrow granite]

ye, am goin to a relay x.x

[trim hill]

It's a good mod, even without some other invis option applying the crit buff, tbh

[narrow granite]

nah, aint workin with trickery

maybe should replcae trickery with concentration :-?

[trim hill]

Concentration is p good. I use Crepuscular + Ultimatum

Don't ask why, I don't even know why Ultimatum is there

[narrow granite]

was thinkin conce with crepu so I have the smoke and silence for longer

this is my ash rn

and this is stupid funni shadowclone no jutsu

[trim hill]

Yeeeaaaah, Savage Silence ftw

[narrow granite]

am prepin him for the eda

[trim hill]

Have you tried Teleport Rush?

I really like it for infinite invis

[narrow granite]

dunno what I would change in that build for it

[compact cypress]

mesa, ill probably swap to just running adaptation instead of cata shield gating once i get growing power but what do you think for now?

[trim hill]

If you dropped Trickery, you could offload maybe some duration from your mods and slot a different arcane to make up some difference

[trim hill]

Does Mesa cast enough to really shield gate? I don't usually play her, but when I do I normally just flip all my abilities on and then become a turret

[narrow granite]

only got continuity for duration tho lol

also does melee atack speed matter on clones?

[trim hill]

I believe it increases the animations

[narrow granite]

thats useful

[trim hill]

I think I only ever run one attack speed mod on them, everything else is straight dmg

Nice to have, but not mandatory

[narrow granite]

I think imma drop the smooke augment . _ . for like 15 secs aint worthy the wasted space

[lavish orbit]

Not really

[trim hill]

Hmm

[narrow granite]

adjusted it so

[cloud salmon]

bro should i add galvaniced apitude or seration ?

[cloud salmon]

anyone has any idea ?

[trim hill]

Maybe while waiting for adaptation you can run a different aura + maybe shield recharge instead of cata shield?

[narrow granite]

now time to try and change just the reload speed with 60k kurwa . _ . wish mi luck, lads

[trim hill]

I don't have a Burston myself, but I would imagine gapt would be strong here

[cloud salmon]

oo ok

[karmic badger]

Nah gapt is like, 40% effective since the burston incarnon is AOE and gapt doesn't include the base damage boost from incarnon perks

[karmic badger]

Serration is better, gapt is running at half effect for the incarnon

[cloud salmon]

oh

[cloud salmon]

burston doesnt need any firerate mod does it ?

since incaron has good firerate ?

[trim hill]

Super weird. It wouldn't outperform Serration on the base fire at all? Even with Deadhead as the base damage source?

[karmic badger]

It might, but you're staying in incarnon for far longer than in the base

You're not using the normal mode to do damage, you're using it to build incarnon

[trim hill]

I can see that, yeah. I tend to use both modes on other incarnons when I play (save for melees). If I can't use both modes effectively, I simply use something else

[compact cypress]

back on this build, what shards should i run?
the blue is for persistance
two yellows for casting speed
what can i slot in the remaining slots?

[maiden oracle]

This is uhhhh

Actually who is this

[trim hill]

Labos

[maiden oracle]

Inaros?

[maiden oracle]

Ah

[trim hill]

I like to slot red duration shards on mine

[compact cypress]

labos

[maiden oracle]

No idea then, I forget he exists

[lavish orbit]

y'all playing lobos innit

[brittle sleet]

Doesn't necessarily need but the Arbiters of Hexis augment mod that gives it 80% fire rate is really good and should be ran

[cloud salmon]

oh okie

[compact cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/tohru-honda-tohru-honda-fruits-basket-fruits-gif-1020039318310337767

[abstract axle]

lavos's shards are weird since all of lavos's power budget is in an ability that doesn't scale with anything (valence formation). you could go duration shards to extend status duration on lavos, or reds for melee cd

[severe bough]

Remove Galv appitude for glided truth

[weak jasper]

Mirage's still good right

[severe bough]

Ofc

[weak jasper]

Just thinking of a general gunzerker frame

You just put nourish or roar over 4?

[abstract axle]

can't inject roar

[severe bough]

I use her as zaw platform with WA

Eclipse + WA tech fr

[trim hill]

Nourish works well. Also Brightbonnet if you already have viral somewhere else in your loadout.

[karmic slate]

i dont gave prime cleanse orokin atm, but is this good for saryn

[weak jasper]

Exodia outbreak?

[severe bough]

Contagions is the only real reason to play zaws

[weak jasper]

Since when? Did they change it?

[trim hill]

Roar takes up Eclipse's slot. Not usually advisable on Mirage

[weak jasper]

Right, contagion, not outbreak.

[trim hill]

Been that way since Helminth, I thought

[weak jasper]

What weapon type do you use? I was thinking of plague kripath polearm so I can still actually melee

[severe bough]

Saryn sobek?

[abstract axle]

eclipse is in the pile of damage enhancing abilities that you aren't allowed to stack, so you can't add it without removing eclipse

[karmic slate]

yes

[weak jasper]

Oh I see. I have never subsumed anything

Still working on the entrati rep

[trim hill]

Yeah, I prefer to run Eclipse anyways. You can run the augment to give your clones your Eclipse buff that way - even with a low-range build

[severe bough]

Cold progi to make viral
Remove mag strike for cc mod
And galv shavy for bane normal is also good

[weak jasper]

Do your clones also vomit contagion projectiles?

[karmic slate]

cc mod and bane mod?

[abstract axle]

on an aside, toxic lash not being on the list and being allowed to subsume roar is part of why shes so good

[severe bough]

Crit chance mod and yea faction mod

[trim hill]

That I'm not sure of. I don't typically run zaws, so I'm not familiar with the tech

[weak jasper]

oh damn you can't even get exodia contagion now

Never mind I guess, there goes that build idea

[abstract axle]

if you are going for contagion build, you want to build the slowest kripath rapier with a 10-30 split towards status

[severe bough]

Not zawfluence again🥀

[karmic slate]

i placed critrical deceleration and should i get clence orokin? what do you recomend

[severe bough]

Dont really need the primed once if u dont have them now just use the normal ones for now till u get the primed version

[abstract axle]

but its so good on mirage. What else double dips eclipse multiplicatively?

[severe bough]

Zawinfluence is like the biggest joke and crime together

[trim hill]

I like to run Innodem, Nepheri, and Nami Solo incarnon for Mirage's clones. Extra range + high follow-through lets your clones do a solid amount of consistent melee damage.

[karmic slate]

something like this

[severe bough]

Yea

[karmic slate]

should i remove point blank for chilling grasp for viral?

[severe bough]

Nah u just use cold progi

[karmic slate]

cold progi?

[abstract axle]

kuva sobek is a progenitor weapon, and as such has a base element

[severe bough]

Cold progenitor

[karmic slate]

valence bonus?

[severe bough]

Yea

[karmic slate]

my valence bonus is toxic

[trim hill]

Grind them there elemental vices, I say

[severe bough]

If u click on the weapon and then on actions u should see a button to override valence

With a elemental vice

[karmic slate]

ok i have a element vice

should i chouse cold?

[abstract axle]

hold on, don't get lost on this. If you are building for saryn sobek, you want to keep it pure tox

[severe bough]

[karmic slate]

oh?

[severe bough]

Progi doesnt do anything for acid shells

[karmic slate]

so keep it at toxin?

[near vortex]

you want to vice sobek

[severe bough]

Aswell as tox lash

[near vortex]

Magnetic for most frames, cold for Saryn Oraxia Cyte

[abstract axle]

no, switching the progenitor will work. I just mean if your weapon isn't at rank 40, don't swap the mod

[karmic slate]

my wep is lvl 40

[abstract axle]

then elemental vice it, and swap to cold

this gives you viral procs while still building tox damage for lash

[karmic slate]

i wont brik anything?

[abstract axle]

no, tox mods still buff lash even if they combine into a different element

[karmic slate]

ok got viral

[deep grotto]

Cold pierogi…..

[fierce lark]

ew

[karmic slate]

sweet now i can play my fav frame to its full potential ty for the help

[fierce lark]

do you have galv savvy? that would be better than ppb unless you're actually 1tapping everything you shoot

[karmic slate]

um vip toled me to swap it

but i do have gal savvy

[fierce lark]

let me double check smth

[severe bough]

U want ppb because u only really care about how fast u kill the first target

[fierce lark]

base dmg doesn't affect the dot spread, galv savvy matches ppb at 2+ statuses and you have one forced toxin status with extremely high chance for viral/corrosive

[severe bough]

Without any base dmg it can get very wonky to kill the initial target

[karmic slate]

so i put ppb and savvy together?

[fierce lark]

the inclusion of clip delegation and crit mods makes me assume this is more general purpose than pure acid shells

so galv savvy should be up 100% of the time after first enemy

if it legit 1taps everything with ppb then it doesn't matter

but i'd rather have savvy for thrax/acolytes and whatnot

[abstract axle]

I mean, the only missing mod you could even add to affect the shells would be the tox 60, so at that point the rest of the builds about starting the chain

[severe bough]

Clip is flex cc mods are just there because it boost overall ttk u can of course run galv shavvy tho the target will probably die in the first 2 shoots before any statues

[fierce lark]

there's a critless pure tox build that literally just only cares about acid shells

though 60 tox really is the only difference

you'd drop 1 crit mod for tox and the other for pcr for ele dmg and swap prog to magnetic

[karmic slate]

i was following these 2 builds then i decided to ask the community for guidence

[fierce lark]

thats the only acid shells version i played

[severe bough]

Im assuming that u dont really notice a big difference in game but due to blights cd boost cc mod is probably a bit better

[fierce lark]

yeah the build on the right is just a flex between "do you care about doing single target damage or not", and if the answer is yes you swap 60 tox and cryo for delegation/deceleration and use cold prog

if you purely care about acid shells you run that

i think that one was more popular before 1999 cause there was no vice to freely swap elements, magnetic prog made it more flexible to use on everyone

nowadays you can swap to w/e works for the build

[severe bough]

Time to spend another 2 mil kuva and hope i het smth

[karmic slate]

i want to make a single target and non single target

[fierce lark]

im gonna be honest, im just lazy

the crit/delegation build is a lot better

[late hemlock]

if this is for saryn you want to put toxic barrage over clip delergation / magnetic strafe / savvy, will get you better shells damage

[karmic slate]

i have seen a comment that toxic barrage doesnt work

[fierce lark]

adding 60 tox will maybe sometimes result in a 1 tick faster kill on some enemies, but with the insane base dmg on lash already + toxin shards id rather just have the extra single target for eximus and whatnot

[late hemlock]

frankly saryn never struggles with single target on sobek

so buffing shells is the only thing that matters imo

[fierce lark]

what if buffing shells bad because enemies die before more enemies can spawn behind them

you could also just replace elementalist

it's only a 1nce multiplier and it's additive with green shards

[karmic slate]

better?

[fierce lark]

do you have 3+ toxin dmg archon shards?

[abstract axle]

fwiw you should be hitting 100% hp damage without the 60, and the rest of the package isn't being argued, so it doesn't really matter either way

[fierce lark]

if not you still want elementalist

[karmic slate]

I dont have archon shards

[fierce lark]

put ele over savvy/ppb

[karmic slate]

Oh i just realized elemental shotgun is not in the build...ups

Then after i get archon shards i remove elemtal shotgun and put something else?

[boreal sandal]

Want to build around valk's ripline but kinda unsure on how to go about this. Is the "coordinated melee attack" special in anyway or just regular attack? Standard light combo build?

[severe bough]

Clip Delegation whatever

[karmic slate]

Alright thx

[fierce lark]

delegation is kinda whatever on acid shells builds tbh

[severe bough]

I often use 60/60 tox or still ele even tho i got shards

[fierce lark]

it's like a second ghell that's harder to upkeep

[severe bough]

Often i just forget to swap

[fierce lark]

more fun on general use builds that actually have a status dot

[karmic slate]

i hope i can do dmg in steel path with this

[karmic badger]

Debilitate builds go hard with clip delegation

[fierce lark]

you are playing acid shells saryn, you will instakill everything upto and including lvlcap

[severe bough]

That works easily in cap

With blindfold

No audio

Nah mabye u need audio

[fierce lark]

audio so i can jam or i'll fall asleep

[karmic slate]

I used to play with no audio 7 years ago

[severe bough]

Am i cooked?

[karmic badger]

Actually wait... I can have debilitate provide good dots with radiation and magnetic, i can fit a crit status hybrid build now lmao

[severe bough]

Where is cc

Nobody wants status

[fierce lark]

wait that's insane wtf

[karmic badger]

That's like... 2k plat?

[severe bough]

Cc would be better

[severe bough]

Probably more a friend of mine sold one similar for 5 k

[karmic badger]

Nah, cause shotgun, primed ravage is like, 90% cd

[severe bough]

Im just

Scamming in asia chat

Asia chat is fr cooked

[quiet laurel]

scam in NA chat

[fierce lark]

who cares about cc the gun has like base 120% sc and you've removed all impact procs from incarnon direct hits

[quiet laurel]

doesnt it have forced impact

[fierce lark]

removed all impact weighting*

[severe bough]

I should

Idk

[karmic slate]

Does critical deceleration matter in sobek?

[severe bough]

But it has the highest impact

[severe bough]

Better ttk

[karmic slate]

Ttk?

[severe bough]

Time to kill

[fierce lark]

it's like 40/40 slash impact 20 puncture but the impact is all only in the direct hit

[quiet laurel]

damn doing afk index is braindead

[late hemlock]

generally there to help bypass armor

[quiet laurel]

ez credits

[severe bough]

New tech?

[karmic slate]

I see i will replace it then

[late hemlock]

also helps to scale off from lower hp enemies to higher hp enemies

[quiet laurel]

pretty old afaik

[severe bough]

Bruh

Let me try let me try go into NA and Asia then and see what the people want

🥀

[quiet laurel]

the people crave for the rivens

though strun is not really used in any meta rn so wont be selling it to endgame farmers

[severe bough]

🥀

EU is cooked

[quiet laurel]

wait I know that guy

[severe bough]

HAHAHHA

[quiet laurel]

I think he wanted to buy my groll falcor for 150

[severe bough]

💀 💀

[fierce lark]

🙃

[severe bough]

NA first or Asia?

[quiet laurel]

NA

[severe bough]

Alr

[vestal lintel]

Burston, torid and latron which incarnon would be best for gyre?

[fierce lark]

latron would be my pick purely because the 4 +elec shards i run on her wouldn't screw with elemental combining on it like it would for the other 2

although realistically it doesn't matter atp

[severe bough]

800 also feels bruh

Im waiting for that one rich guy fr

[vestal lintel]

Would it be worth modding one of those weapons around gyre, like more electricity or something

[fierce lark]

burston latron torid are all top level primaries that will delete everything you put in front of her anyways so there's no wrong answer, use whichever one is more fun/feels better

[quiet laurel]

the plat rich people wont really buy strun tbf

[vestal lintel]

See am tryna see if shes better than my mirage but idk yet

[quiet laurel]

oh def not

[fierce lark]

i dont think gyre will outperform mirage as a weapons buffer

[severe bough]

Im probably going to list in in wfm

But for what price

[vestal lintel]

yeah that's what am thinking.

[severe bough]

Mirage is def better

[quiet laurel]

just be like me, list falcor riven for 1k and have people make offers for 2k+

[ripe girder]

shard for revenant torid?

[quiet laurel]

str

[vestal lintel]

One of my tests was doing the decedia steel path and with mirage + latron i can kill all of the eximus pretty easily, not with gyre though lol

[quiet laurel]

mirage has her clones and eclipse

which is insane dmg output

[fierce lark]

cheapest riven with your roll and harmless neg is 600

cheapest riven with your exact roll is 3900

i guess you can decide for yourself if -impact is worth over 3k lmao

[old marsh]

make it 690 for the lolz

[quiet laurel]

I would just start high and see how it goes

[vestal lintel]

I have a vadarya prime riven, worth rerolling to sell or nah?

[quiet laurel]

riven selling isnt a business of a few hours

[old marsh]

ye. start with like 1500.

[fierce lark]

if you have a decent amount of strength, 3 and 4 active, a subsumed buff over 2 active and you're shooting through arcspheres with the augment, gyre should never have an issue killing anything with a decent weapon

[severe bough]

Mhm im prop just trying some out

Let me try let me try🇮🇳

[vestal lintel]

yeah i dont have any archon shards nor a subsume on her, not really a fair comparison

[fierce lark]

nothing is worth rerolling to sell period, odds of getting a roll that will sell at a decent price/timeframe is very low

[quiet laurel]

but never 0

[fierce lark]

it's significantly easier to get a usable roll than a sellable one, so you should just use kuva for yourself

[quiet laurel]

thats why we gamble 🗣️

[vestal lintel]

hm

[fierce lark]

if you're extremely anti-riven or you're a gambling addict you can buy burston or torid rivens and try to hit grolls

i wouldn't waste my kuva on a weapon like vadarya though

[quiet laurel]

I have unlimited kuva to spend so I always try to roll when I have the opportunity to

[fierce lark]

0.65x nobody with a brain is paying much for even a good riven

[quiet laurel]

god bless android release

[severe bough]

How much VE do u rn have?

Or did u alr converted it

[quiet laurel]

11.5k rn

bought kuva recently

[severe bough]

Bruh

[quiet laurel]

I always buy before updates or when I run out of kuva

speaking of which, next arbi a good one

[severe bough]

Casta ?

[quiet laurel]

hyf

[severe bough]

Cyte

Time

[quiet laurel]

all maps except casta and seimini are cyte

[severe bough]

Cyte prime soon

[quiet laurel]

"soon"

[severe bough]

🥀

Trust the process

[quiet laurel]

next big thing for arbi ig is afentis prime

but if no passive stat changes then legit useless

[severe bough]

Who had normal afentis tho

[quiet laurel]

styanax

[severe bough]

I dont even know

Ah lmao

Another poor soul got hacked

<@&778745217037238293>

[quiet laurel]

I assume at least 5 people already pinged mods in general

[severe bough]

Bruh

[icy urchin]

question about melee weapon modding, is there any point in running galvanized reflex or other heavy attack efficiency mods when running a tennokai mod

[vague scaffold]

Idontthink you need heavy efficiency when you get a free heavy every once in a while, so imo no.

[icy urchin]

yeah it felt to me like it would kinda be a wasted slot

[severe bough]

If u play light attack builds tennokai is great

Reflex is used for heavy spam

[icy urchin]

yeah makes sense, wasnt sure if initial combo count actually helped with tennokai at all i was assuming not really

im building syam on kullervo atm would heavy attack spam just be better than tennokai? cus i feel like that would make sense

[lean tendon]

-IPS is good for Hek, no? Or do I hold on to left?

[fierce lark]

keep left

[modern vale]

I have a question.
Why do many people say Shield Gating is better than Overguard (because of Magnetic and no damage reduction), but, one toxin proc from Infested and you're gone?

I was just researching some things on TikTok and reading comments and saw a lot of comments fighting over a "better one"

[karmic badger]

easier access maybe?

[modern vale]

I mean, for Overguard or Shield Gating, just reposition yourself. It's not difficult to get out from under the Light Jade Exímus or simply avoid the Toxic cloud.

[lean tendon]

both are good but shield gating is just easier to access compared to overguard

[modern vale]

Humm, I see....

👀

[lean tendon]

health tanking is also good

[modern vale]

I'm going to Inaros to test this.
I already have Caliban for Shield Tanking, Dante for Overguard, and now I want health tanking.

Just for the love of doing builds

[fierce lark]

there are pros and cons to both

one of the cons of shield tanking is what you mentioned, status procs

toxin damage can kill you instantly, magnetic procs disable shield regen which will disable passive gating as well as arcane aegis, and drain your energy preventing you from gating actively

and knockdowns prevent you from being able to use an ability so that can also get you killed

psf/rolling guard help to mitigate these factors

the advantage to it is it scales infinitely

doesn’t matter whether you get hit for 100 or 100 million, 1 point of shield (with catalyzing) will prevent all of it

overguard being universally accessible now through circumvent makes it a very strong survivability tool up to level ~1k or so

just requires you remember it’s there and to actively roll through any overguarded enemies you see

[modern vale]

Got it. I am looking to test all forms of survival. Rn I'm farming for Caliban Prime for better Shield tanking and Inaros Prime for health tanking

[fierce lark]

circumvent also pairs very well with rolling guard, melee careen and amalgam barrel diffusion

[fierce lark]

im ngl my survivability on caliban is shade

[modern vale]

Okay that's smart xD

[fierce lark]

he can wipe all content without ever firing a gun, so shade invis is near perma

[modern vale]

I like to put Strength and Efficiency into him, and whatever God wills, will be done.

(with Razor Mortal augment)

[fierce lark]

efficiency isn’t needed

razor gyre refunds energy on hit

and he usually runs archon stretch anyway for even more energy

it’s completely free to run him with 45 eff

[modern vale]

I'm still farming for Archon Stretch.
I'm currently using Zenurik + Arcane Energize rank 0 purely for comfort lol

[fierce lark]

play a few missions with blind rage and no efficiency or energy sources other than synth deconstruct + equilibrium

actually shade caliban can’t even use synth so you don’t even need that

literally just hit enemies with razor gyre and that should be enough

OH right

nourish over 4 also helps a ton

[celest moss]

Rate my build capacity optimization guys /j

[modern vale]

Wait what

[fierce lark]

exalted weapon/10

or /60 in this case

[celest moss]

I have legitamitely zero clue how I accomplished this

[fierce lark]

funny bug

[celest moss]

This is on Excal Umbra

[fierce lark]

oh that’s on the actual frame

that’s impressive

[celest moss]

I haven't hopped on him in a bit and I went to change up his build and uh

[modern vale]

I like playing Caliban using Minions + Razor Gyre and launching Fusion Strikes in areas with many enemies to remove armor.
My Fusion strikes removes 100% of armor sooo I like it.

[celest moss]

This is what I saw

[modern vale]

That's why I use some Efficiency on him rn, but, I'll test what you recommended!

[modern vale]

Dam that's crazy

[fierce lark]

nourish causes ortholysts to apply viral on top of everything else they’re doing

[modern vale]

I like to use Corrosive Projection on him bc yes

[modern vale]

Wait really???

Omg

[fierce lark]

yeah, anything that buffs companions will buff them

roar also double dips their elec procs

but roar is faction damage, as is summoner’s wrath, so they’re additive with each other

nourish is additive with razor mortar’s % elec, but has the added benefit of viral status and more energy

[modern vale]

I just got Helminth exactly rn
You gave me a good idea
But Ill wait for Prime to just less cost.

[idle crescent]

Hi hi, no G.Aptitude for Trumna Prime right?

Both Trumna primary and alt fire has radius dmg right?

[mighty flare]

yeah, gapt only works on direct hits, if you arent aiming dont bother

[daring summit]

whats a good sibear inc slam build look like?

initial combo?

[cursive aurora]

I just bought a Xoris riven, what should I be rolling for on it?

I am stupid. My glaive is a falcor

[onyx cipher]

How to get harrow chasis blueprint?

[static sphinx]

I'm very new. What could improve my Mag build?

[karmic badger]

max out your aura mod

[static sphinx]

That's it?

[karmic badger]

also, you can ditch vitality and steel fiber

you're just gonna rely on shields to survive

slot in a decently levelled equilbrium

[static sphinx]

What should I replace for equilibrium?

[karmic badger]

^

[static sphinx]

Alright, thanks

[noble linden]

Anyone have any budget builds for lavos prime. I was gifted him and idk how to properly build/mod his Warframe.

[raven python]

anyone got a coda tysis build?

my tysis has impact unfortunately

what are the best elements for each coda weapon?

[fierce lark]

mire heat/toxin depending on if you want gas or pure tox affliction slams, motovore doesn't matter, electricity for the rest of the melees

sporothrix magnetic/heat (for blast), pox electricity (combines with innate for free corrosive + modded blast), rest magnetic

catabolyst & synapse you could probably also do heat/elec if you want to vice them and swap around, would just do magnetic for simplicity though

[raven python]

ok thanks

[grizzled oracle]

Is there a mod that adds elemental damage to abilities? I want to make my vauban Tesla mines magnetic.

[river flame]

does anyone have a good uriel build for me

and if u got mods to trade for it i have a lot of plat to trade for it

new to the game aswel, i started today haha

[quiet storm]

What is a good verglas prime build for Oxylus? Since I am not using it for combat

Just multishot and DMG?

[late hemlock]

verglas with viral heat and your normal status / multishot mods is more than enough

but not having some minimal investment into it on oxylus itself will make it pretty meh

[cursive aurora]

So I just rolled a riven and I’m not sure which is correct. It’s a xoris riven, options are +crit chance, + combo duration, + crit damage, - puncture, or +heat +toxin +crit chance - combo count

[late hemlock]

cc + cd is pretty solid, wouldnt bother considering the other one

[raven python]

from what ik only if its an exhalted weapon

[late hemlock]

but xoris has absolutely terrible disposition so it might not be worth using anyways

[cursive aurora]

Honestly true