builds-discussion

[gleaming oasis]

why stop at one lmao

[main silo]

oh its the inate

[charred gale]

yuh

[main silo]

god im dumb sorry

[celest thicket]

Am i crazy or before the last damage rework radiation used to have really good modifiers against grineer ?

[charred gale]

nah ur good

[dire merlin]

what elementS should i play then ??

[celest thicket]

Man the old damage chart was crazy complicated

[charred gale]

viral, heat for regular gameplay

if u have say nourish u could go something like corrosive blast

[gleaming oasis]

I have a build you can reference with radiation, viral, heat and magnetic

[main silo]

i spawned mine with mag dmg, so it now has mag/viral/electicity and the inate

[charred gale]

heat should be better for the armor strip

[main silo]

im gonna use it with mag her 4 strips 100%

but i could change it i guess

[charred gale]

oh mag, elec is great then

[main silo]

cool ty 🙂

[charred gale]

yeah keep it as is

[charred gale]

np

[dire merlin]

ok ty

[stable plover]

Burston Mob clear build using Xata's Wisper(Riven: 272.1 CC, 211.3 CD) https://youtu.be/JRsCe41b9KM

[fierce lark]

iirc radiation was good against the kind of armor that heavy grineer units had, not ferrite armor but the other one

[gleaming oasis]

This is what I've been using for a long time now. the arcane can be swapped for stuff like enervate, encumber, or empowered

[charred gale]

is this a priming nukor?

[gleaming oasis]

yes

ive had this for over a year now

[fierce lark]

dont ask about spry sights, im not buying ruinous extension xd

[charred gale]

i remember buying ruinious to not use it :)

[fierce lark]

it would be great on the nukor but i don't use it anymore

[late hemlock]

wait ruinous is supposed to be rare?

the things you just have sitting in your inventory without ever knowing lol

[tawdry trail]

Having ferrite armour and alloy armour was hilarious, and partial armour strip being meta because if they were fully stripped they'd change weaknesses

I can't remember how long ago that change was made

[late hemlock]

the meta was to fully armor strip and only build weakness for the health portion and not armor portion

like build for viral and just fully strip using (ewwww) ash shuriken

[tawdry trail]

I very rarely see people who don't know about the changes and still advise against full strip lol

[lavish orbit]

all those pseudo meta guys always building corrosive with a tau green shards for more corrosive stacks was horrible lmao

[exotic edge]

Hello everyone I have made a ticket in helping players on builds for my hydroid and volt if anyone could give me some advice on them that would be greatly appreciated

[languid anvil]

Is the Paracesis worth building?

[fathom sky]

Not really. No special gimmick worth looking at and is just worse than Tenet Exec.

[novel bear]

Armor and health change was summer 2024, jade shadows
But that stopped being the meta long before then because anything less than a full strip was worthless past a certain point

[fierce lark]

what kind of hydroid?

[sturdy walrus]

what is the best secondary in the game

[languid anvil]

Alr thx because 1k ducats is wild bro 💀

[midnight horizon]

What kind of help do you need tho?

[south solstice]

that's very subjective

I'd say for the start - laetum with incarnon is great

[sturdy walrus]

true I was jut asking that in general

[south solstice]

I am enjoying playing with my dual toxocyst incarnon with 6mln red crits

[sturdy walrus]

okay does anyone have a good gimoire build for steel path

[south solstice]

ninjase had a really good one

https://overframe.gg/build/569013/grimoire/book-of-oddities-viral-rad-electric-primer-and-energy-regen-orb-gen/

This one was at least okay

It can be finetuned ofc

[eager charm]

trash clear: ocucor
tank/boss killer: laetum
one tapper: lex prime incarnon/tenet plinx/epitaph
primer: epitaph/kuva nukor/kompressa

epitaph is kinda in a realm of it's own for being a very unique primer on quick shot and then having insane stats on charged shot so it can be both

honorable mention to grimoire not for being a weapon but for being an insane utility tool

dex furis/twin grakata/velox prime are also good bullet hose style secondaries but that playstyle isnt popular

[south solstice]

I always wondered why people are sleeping on dual toxocyst

[eager charm]

at least, not popular when dual toxos exist

yeah that

[late hemlock]

dual tox is always mentioned nobody is sleeping on them

[quiet laurel]

not mentioning furis and DT is kinda crazy

[eager charm]

dude i cant mention EVERYTHING all on the first try lol

[south solstice]

afuris prime incarnon exist right?

[late hemlock]

no

[south solstice]

rip

[late hemlock]

there is no furis prime to begin with, but the incarnon is only for a single furis

[south solstice]

ahh, right

[quiet laurel]

I mean considering how furis has the highest single target dps with DT being a close follow up with a bit more AoE they do be the best ones in a standalone competition

[eager charm]

trash clear: ocucor/furis/dual tox
tank/boss killer: laetum/furis/dual tox
one tapper: lex prime incarnon/tenet plinx/epitaph
primer: epitaph/kuva nukor/kompressa
utility: grimoire
bullethose pew pew: dex furis/twin grakata/velox prime

[south solstice]

I had to had something else on my mind

[eager charm]

anything else?

[quiet laurel]

ocucor kinda relies on hyperbuffers

[late hemlock]

wouldnt call nukor a primer when it just straight up murders stuff lol

[eager charm]

i guess uhhh zymos

[eager charm]

only non-reflective chain beam gun with native rad + progenitor element iirc

[late hemlock]

it "can" prime but thats more of a secondary use case compared to just using it to kill everything

by the time you swap to a primary it already killed the room lol

[eager charm]

like if we wanna get RLY specific then dex furis are one of the best single target primers in the game too

[late hemlock]

also cycron exists which is a nukor sidegrade

i know some people really like toxorica but i never used it

[eager charm]

ive heard abt cycron bering nice bc inf ammo

[south solstice]

Talking about best weapons, what is in top3 for melee rn?

[eager charm]

"best" meaning what?

[tepid scaffold]

Furis by miles

The it's

DT
Occucor
Lateum

[late hemlock]

melee setups are really setup dependant so its kinda not possible to list them in top 3?

same for every weapon class tbh

some weapons work really well in certain setups

[eager charm]

praedos/okina/ruvox/furax wraith for utility at least

[tepid scaffold]

Falcor/xoris
Magistar
Contagion zaw

[south solstice]

Actually I need only two. One for SP stalkers and second one for big clear

[quiet laurel]

rare corpse appearance to speak facts

[south solstice]

I have okina prime incarnon rn

[eager charm]

my issue with furis is that the incarnon charge depletes SO fast

[late hemlock]

acolytes die to literally anything with mods tbh

[eager charm]

have to constantly transform

[tepid scaffold]

Haven't lurked in awhile, but bored atm

[late hemlock]

you can kinda kill acolytes with anything

[eager charm]

a slam wep like magistar still onetaps acos i think? i dont play slam tho

[quiet laurel]

furis is best used as a single target dps weapon you just pull out when you need it

[late hemlock]

anything slam / heavy attack just onetaps

[south solstice]

Yeah, but after a while on 1000+ they are getting spongy

[late hemlock]

acolytes scale up really slowly iirc

[eager charm]

for aoe dps, i'm pretty sure its uhhhh nami solo incarnon?

[quiet laurel]

furis used to be so much fun with blast when saryn blast still worked

[eager charm]

dual ichor and t agendus up there too

[quiet laurel]

but now you can cope with furis blast xatas fr

[late hemlock]

you can use furis gauss to nuke single target which is cool ig

[tepid scaffold]

Even at lvl 9999 the acos get popped instantly.

[south solstice]

never been on 9999, I have a beef with amps sadly

[tepid scaffold]

Play with a zaw/slam user and you often won't even notice the aco spawn

[quiet laurel]

same, joined a teaching run in arbis, the supports threw both times, arbi ended and now I dont wanna play warframe anymore

[late hemlock]

meh no reason to go to 9999 anyways so dont feel stressed

[tepid scaffold]

547 or 147

[eager charm]

9999 is mostly just for fun, like "can i push this all the way?"

[south solstice]

actually both, because I've never done eidolon hunting due to lack of amp capable of doing it efficient

[eager charm]

done it with uhhh hildryn(silence), voruna(vanilla), valkyr(roar), rhino(nourish), kullervo(omamori)

[tepid scaffold]

I have meticulously been tinkering/optimizing level cpa builds and doing runs, but that's all I do.

Sitting on ~20k worth of arcanes/parts rn and I cba to even sell them lol

[tepid scaffold]

Eidolons is turbo dead.

Cascade murdered it

[fierce lark]

cascade didn’t really murder it, clan operations did

[idle crescent]

Hi, whats like the best build for Fulmin?

[eager charm]

putting it down and picking up the Quellor instead

[south solstice]

but still you need eidolon shards to unlock x4x

[late hemlock]

the only reason to do eidolons was the arcanes which are now given out for free at rank 5 from events lol

[tepid scaffold]

I disagree. Vosfor is what really killed it off. The events just were extra nails in the coffin

[eager charm]

jk but i cant make the fulmin work in SP either LOL

[late hemlock]

not to mention that newer arcanes just powercrept almost every single eidolon arcane

[fierce lark]

getting energize from vosforing was a world-level task

[quiet laurel]

been kinda bored of cascade lately, arbis getting me that loot adrenaline cause of the vitus
I used to have that for the arcane drops in cascades but no one doing cascades for the arcanes anymore so it becomes kinda boring

[idle crescent]

How about the Aksomati

[south solstice]

Energize for 1800p. I was there, 3000 years ago...

[tepid scaffold]

Energize trickery fury avenger precision velocity etc are still super goatd

[late hemlock]

there are some good arcanes for sure, thats why i said almost

so many fodder arcanes in the pool

[late talon]

except akarius, every other ak weapon i dead

[tepid scaffold]

1800?

You must be new.

I recall when the lowest was 5k and you needed 2

10k for 20 r0

[eager charm]

how do you tolerate arbis? i hate sitting in one spot for hours, at least in cascade you move around a lot

[tepid scaffold]

Raids ftw

[fierce lark]

cascade fissures during end of year resurgence is insane for plat

[tepid scaffold]

Jordas meatball ftw

[south solstice]

Yep, I started in 2020

[quiet laurel]

insta looting

[fierce lark]

so many people tossing 20+ plat relics

[eager charm]

wdym?

[tepid scaffold]

I despise arbis lol

So boring. I can only shoot walls for so long...

[quiet laurel]

you instantly loot the VE when it drops, and depending on the map you need to have skilled movement to have efficient VE drops

[idle crescent]

is there a reason to use prime mods > archon mods if i own the archon version?

[quiet laurel]

okay but hear me out, shooting walls with cyte

[south solstice]

I am survival enjoyer myself tbh, I even mastered Octavia Prime to afk in one place.

[quiet laurel]

wasnt that a build you did for cascades

[late hemlock]

mostly to save on mod capacity

[quiet laurel]

legit meta for most maps on arbis now

[fierce lark]

i will probably never do meta arbis because shooting spawns with ogris sounds boring

[idle crescent]

noted

[tepid scaffold]

Stretch can be activated by companion abilities

And continuity can give you free corrosive stacks (mesa etc)

[eager charm]

slightly less capacity

[quiet laurel]

ogris is used on like 2 maps

the rest is cyte now

[fierce lark]

but they are obj the best maps right

[quiet laurel]

which needs good aim and reaction time

[quiet laurel]

not really, best maps are cyte maps

[fierce lark]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quiet laurel]

700 to 1k VE on some

[fierce lark]

per what, hour?

[quiet laurel]

ye

[late talon]

cap

[fierce lark]

christ

[idle crescent]

is there like a better primary weapon than torid incarnon btw?

[eager charm]

it's not per hour when you count investment and setup and team organization

[fierce lark]

for general use not really

[eager charm]

but yeah, for mission time, yes

[fierce lark]

burston is close

[idle crescent]

damn uit

[eager charm]

i use burston incarnon on 99% of my loadouts LOL

[eager charm]

very little reason to use anything else
amalgam serration and deadhead

[fierce lark]

burston latron cedo phenmor

all very strong

[eager charm]

cedo is epic primer 4 mesa, i love the revolver shotgun aesthetic on her

[idle crescent]

burston can down bosses faster than torid?

[fierce lark]

yes it’s better ST easily

[idle crescent]

got it

[tepid scaffold]

Yes.

Torid is mid once you realize it's only for base SP

[fierce lark]

what

[tepid scaffold]

Torid is mid

[fierce lark]

you’re insane

[tepid scaffold]

It is only "goatd" at base SP

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-joker-heath-ledger-the-dark-knight-and-here-we-go-gif-17775369

[tepid scaffold]

Nope.

Go take torid to lvl 9999 in cascade and lmk how it goes

[quiet laurel]

let the discussion commence

[eager charm]

ppl that literally only play levelcap don't play the same game as 99.99% of the rest of players

[tepid scaffold]

Cascade lvl cap is the single most popular mode in the entire game atm.

[fierce lark]

?????????

[late talon]

we play wf+?

[fierce lark]

nah this is mad delulu im not engaging

[tepid scaffold]

When fissure pops for cascade, go look at lfg chat

🙂

[tepid scaffold]

Torid is a base SP weapon of mass destruction but it does NOT scale very well without a ton of help/buffs

Meanwhile incarnoff strun one shots trash up to lvl 9999 and can 2-3 tap lvl cap thrax

[late talon]

facts💯

[abstract axle]

id suspect the majority of people never lfg

[tepid scaffold]

Probably- but more people spam for lvl cap cascade in lfg chat then for anything else.

Saying "no one does level cap" in 2026 is like saying "no one does eidolon tricaps" at their peak.

[novel bear]

The vast majority of the playerbase doesn’t

[fierce lark]

most people don’t engage with lfg

[tepid scaffold]

Vast majority of the playerbase is <MR6 and hasn't unlocked SP.

[fierce lark]

the vast majority of people don’t even have their chat open in orbiter

at all mr’s

[late talon]

if I join a random grp cascade and ask cap, they say no i leave inst

[tepid scaffold]

Wait for fissure to pop and check lfg chat.

Fr.

[novel bear]

Cap takes too long personally
I often don’t have that long to play consecutively

[tepid scaffold]

1.15-1.75hr depending on tileset

[jovial snow]

I have the Riven without rolls and it has MS, projectile speed, and tox. Is it decent?

[tepid scaffold]

Outside of fissure it takes ~55mins

[fierce lark]

eh, not terrible but not ideal, rly want 3 good positives and a good neg

[jovial snow]

I see, ty

[late hemlock]

The vast vast majority of people don't in fact play levelcap

Saying look at lfg is a flawed argument because most players aren't using lfg for the commonly played content

[idle crescent]

what does cap gives btw? wat do ppl farm there?

[plush root]

Arcanes

[abstract axle]

its not about farming, its about the fun

[idle crescent]

ohhhh

[plush root]

Some enjoy it just for the love of the game

[quiet laurel]

steel essence, discord roles, less mission loading times = more mission farm time, arcanes, prime parts, annoying helminth resources

[fierce lark]

more thrax spawns at higher lvls

i think

[idle crescent]

thats the hardest content in warframe?

[abstract axle]

also worth mentioning you do stack the endless relic buffs

[quiet laurel]

no, cascade is pretty chill

[abstract axle]

Yes and no. I'd argue a hard ETA week could be harder

[quiet laurel]

nah

[tepid scaffold]

Most played endurance node is tuvul commons- cascade.

Longest average mission node is tuvul commons - cascade

Most popular omnia fissure is cascade, by a TON

More people do lvl cap cascade fissures then did tricaps at their peak.

[quiet laurel]

the harder content is content like meta arbis where a simple mistake can fail you the whole run

[late hemlock]

Thats probably eta / eda since you are limited with equipment and modifiers

Normal play let's you freely play with any setup

[novel bear]

Superbosses are hard
But it’s also very artificial difficulty

[abstract axle]

superbosses are also in that weird space where they are so difficult they are basically only cheesed, which brings them back to annoying but fine

[late hemlock]

Are you implying that a large amount of the playerbase did tricaps? Thats funny

The entire reason that the arcanes sold for so much is because so many people did not play eidolons

[tepid scaffold]

"Random BS go!" isn't difficult.

Just run steadfast Dante with book build.

Ggez. Cheese every EDA/ETA forever.

[novel bear]

Only if you don’t care about filling every requirement

[quiet laurel]

valkyr and hildryn too

[novel bear]

I only do eta with everything ticked

[tepid scaffold]

Nighttime in cetus = nothing but tricap lfg posts for 45mins straight.

[late hemlock]

Again, lfg is a minority

[abstract axle]

also not fair to compare play rate with a gamemode that fundamentally isn't always available

[tepid scaffold]

No thanks. The extra 50 vosfor isn't worth the last point lol

[tepid scaffold]

Omnia fissure cascade says hi

[late talon]

i enjoy cascade as much as disruptions

[plush root]

Disruption fun second favorite mode

[tepid scaffold]

Anyway, we've gotten off topic

Torid is mid- it doesn't scale very well without a ton of help

[broken vector]

Could y’all give me some tips and advice on my Dread build? It’s my favourite weapon and I got what I think is a really strong riven roll.

I’m wondering if I change out hammer shot, hellfire, hunter munitions for something else?

[tepid scaffold]

It is far from "the best primary"

[deep grotto]

Bow enjoyer spotted
Goated

[broken vector]

I own almost every bow and have invested an embarrassing amount of forma in many of them

[late talon]

why do you play hellfire instead of the 60/60?

[broken vector]

I chose hellfire just for more damage but if the 60/60 provides more by way of proccing the status effects more then I’ll do that. This is exactly the kind of help I needed btw thnx

[late hemlock]

Huh didn't know munitions was still used

[broken vector]

I was following Ninjase’s build on overframe. I’m wondering if I drop it tbh

[modern yoke]

Thoughts so far?

[late talon]

not that high mr i assume, its alright i think (shouldnt sound arrogant)

[broken vector]

Somewhat related to my dread build, should I be concerned about heat inherit lowering my damage if I’m running Ophanim Eyes? Or is it so negligible that it’s not worth worrying about?

[late talon]

with which frame do you play dread?

[broken vector]

Loki with Ophanim eyes subsumed over radial disarm (I realise and understand that I’m absolutely bat shit)

[late talon]

wasnt expecting loki but here we are 😄

if i read that correctly, it will lower your dmg

[broken vector]

Thats what I understood based on the wiki for heat inherit. Darn. I’ll reconsider Ophanim eyes

[late talon]

you could say because of the armor strip you do more, but if your concern is the 🔥 dmg,this dmg will lower

[broken vector]

Hmmm. I probably don’t need to be too concerned with armour strip if I’m running heat and slash though

[fierce lark]

you probably shouldn’t run both

[broken vector]

By both you mean Ophanim eyes and heat + slash?

[fierce lark]

if you’re running heat dmg you’re better off investing into that with elementalist or smth, instead of hunter munitions

no I mean heat + slash

[broken vector]

Oh I see

[fierce lark]

slash fell off hard when armor was nerfed and health was buffed

[broken vector]

Ah ok. Thats the link I’m missing ‘cause when I was playing way back when, slash was kinda goated

[fierce lark]

yeah it sucks now

[late talon]

the good old days

[broken vector]

I’ll switch out hunter munitions with rifle elementalist.

Thnx. Is the heat inherit from Ophanim eyes worth worrying about do you reckon?

[late talon]

what lvl do you play normally?

[broken vector]

Steel path and archimedea. I’m looking to try some level cap stuff soon but haven’t yet

[ruby plinth]

am 100% proud of this amount of overguard!

[late talon]

reminds me of the rhino vid with 56k roar, if i remember correct

[late talon]

is this with or without voidbuff?

[novel bear]

This was from a bug with overpower, the hex override

[chrome coral]

Anyone got a hydroid build? Literally no one has one. Everything I tried is just horrible, useless. He’s so bad for survivability, but buffing weapons he’s really good at

[abstract axle]

I DO ONE SEC

[novel bear]

Hydroid bad at survivability?

[late talon]

i think you need arcane persistence, not quite sure tho

[abstract axle]

persistence reconstruct is crutched to stay alive

but the big meat of this build is that the corrosive damage buff will apply to breach surge sparks

[late talon]

reminds me of my health tank saryn build

[abstract axle]

i have an armor shard to make the build smoother, since it means you have persistence without 3 buff, but its not strictly required

yeah, a lot of frames can leverage the trinity of reconstruct, persistence, hunter adrenaline

[late talon]

nah i only use persistence

[chrome coral]

FINALLY. Thanks so much I love hydroid but just can’t make him work in high levels, really appreciate it

[late talon]

but its good

[abstract axle]

i'd highly reccomend at least one casting speed shard, you do spam with this build. It can also fully weaponless, but any high hit rate weapon is welcome

its sketchy at level cap, but only because eventually you eat a slash proc

[chrome coral]

I don’t really take him to level cap tbf. Do you have any gun recommendations, I’ve been using the kuva kohm, it’s my favourite, but just in case there’s a better one. I also use the cods catabloyst which is decent I think

[abstract axle]

kohm will work spectacularly with breach surge for spark count, but the status will be drowned to corrosive thanks to the size of the buff. catabolyst status procs won't matter since hydroid will be full stripping, but the damage will be alright. I personally like to use the prisma angstrum incarnon. The only thing you can't do with this is influence builds, since you're electricity procs will get drowned out

[chrome coral]

Alright just as long as the weapon works, if it starts to get bad or stop working as I want it to I’ll try the angstrum, thanks

[late talon]

Has someone a chroma build with persistence?

[abstract axle]

I mean, especially below level cap, anything should kill with this. just make sure to cast breach surge plenty and never let the 3 buff run out

[chrome coral]

Alright thanks a bunch, genuinely thought everyone had forgot about hydroid

[fierce lark]

if you’re actually using ophanim eyes on everything, elementalist will do nothing

[broken vector]

I’ll switch out Ophanim eyes for something else. I’ve been cycling through Helminth abilities on my Loki to replace his radial disarm. Ophanim eyes is good but I love dread too much lol

[late talon]

the classics are always viable

[broken vector]

Yeah I may try Xata’s whisper, Nourish, or Shock (with shock trooper)

[fierce lark]

if you want a button you can press on enemies to make them explode, breach surge is always fun

needs high range tho

[broken vector]

Yeah I’ve been experimenting with that one too

[fierce lark]

but if you were running ophanim you probably have high range anyway

[broken vector]

Does breach surge need high strength, too?

[pure reef]

any garuda players in the chat? how long has the wall-latch tech been a thing ?

[abstract axle]

depends on what you are doing with it. somethings go hyperbolic with it

[fierce lark]

i think strength only affects the damage multiplier and radiation status chance

as long as your strength isn’t like…negative, you probably don’t need to build much

[prisma anchor]

Between ready steel and holster amp which aura would supply me more damage? Idk how to do the numbers between a combo dmg increase and multiplicative swap buff dmg increase

Its for my falcor

[broken vector]

Great, I’ll give that a go. Thnx!

[novel bear]

Holster amp

Unless you’re not using a source of initial combo on the falcor, but I’m not sure why you wouldn’t on a heavy attack build

[bold estuary]

is it worth running primed redirection on evade harrow for a longer 2?

[midnight horizon]

Hydroid can survive 90% or if I say, 99% of content, the 1 percent are level cap

[fierce lark]

no

[midnight horizon]

Like I have no problem dealing enemies levels that are around 2000 in endless missions

[fierce lark]

harrow with decent strength/duration can hit duration cap on 2 without any extra shields

his overshield cap is a lot higher than his base shield will ever be anyways

[midnight horizon]

Harrow does that?

That's broken fr fr

[bold estuary]

harrow im slowly learning is busted as hell

[midnight horizon]

Still deciding if I buy Harrow or Chroma hahahaha

[midnight horizon]

He is one of the best weapon platformers in the game

[bold estuary]

anyways this is what im thinking right now but I dunno what to put in the last slot

[midnight horizon]

Saryn can help you with that hahahah

I don't use Harrow

[fierce lark]

i can but im doing smth

[midnight horizon]

Aight

Let me study Harrow for a bit and give a bit of knowledge

[midnight horizon]

Idk, Duration.... Hahahahahahahah

Bc since he give buffs and shiz..... Duration for less casting

[bold estuary]

thats what im considering with narrow minded but negative range kinda booty

[midnight horizon]

Eh an augur message would be enough

You don't have to go that far... And I would replace transient fortitude for Umbra Intensify (or normal Intensify)

[bold estuary]

cannot I have archon intensify

[midnight horizon]

That should be enough, Blind Rage and FULL archon/Umbral Intensify is enough

Remove transient fortitude for more access to durstion so you can cast less and have no worries in spamming

That's for me tbh

Again I don't use harrow I just read his kit and just give what's best for him

[bold estuary]

ill try that itll probably work tbh with crepus and intens giving 60% in game

[midnight horizon]

Hahaha

It is what it is

[night laurel]

neg range harrow turns condemn to a melee its straight buns

u gotta whack enemies with it instead

[bold estuary]

fr I tried it in eso it was AWFUL

[deep spade]

why does my ember prime feel like hot garbage 😭

i just came back it was only like

[night laurel]

combat discipline to trigger archon intensify is smart tho

[deep spade]

a year?

[bold estuary]

stolen yareli tech she does it with her augment

[midnight horizon]

Bc there are frames who can do better than her........ Other than that idk else

She is just outperformed by a lot

[bold estuary]

she a little buns I cannot lie

[midnight horizon]

Ember is used for Fashion now I will say

[night laurel]

cultural appropriation (yareli tech reverse engineering)

[bold estuary]

relippropriation

I cannot say I like harrow in any of the evil infested tile sets though I tried him on techrot that was awful

[sour harness]

Anyone got an easy but good Mag build?
I really wanna play mag because she's a fun Warframe but I just can't get the build right

[midnight horizon]

Range and Duration..... Mag need those, and a neutral str

[deep spade]

spent all my effort checking overframe for a "up to date" build. lowk might just kms

[bold estuary]

one sec ill send mine

[midnight horizon]

Eh make your own, check what's best for her, use your knowledge on what's left to build her right

That's how I do with Vauban

[bold estuary]

this is what I use since breach surge bubbles is infinite damage

highly HIGHLY reccomend you use two tau casting speeds on her as well btw shes mirage level slow

[cedar root]

Is this decent or keep trying for something better

I need the incarnon to test it

[fierce lark]

furis nowadays plays pure heat, im not actually sure how much worse viral heat is

if it’s even worse

[mighty flare]

pure heat is only for thrax/demo killing
viral/corro heat is better for everything else

[fierce lark]

ic

[fierce lark]

viral/corro heat swaps out gshot & 60 heat and runs flare?

[velvet sundial]

What ability would I replace on valkyr?

[bold estuary]

1 or 3 I got rid of her 3 for vorunas subsume personally

[subtle pivot]

Just starting to go for my arch wing/arch wing gun grind. Any tips on what mods to get and the fastest way to level my arch wing and gun up for Forma?

[mighty flare]

wha? what does ur furis look like

[fierce lark]

arcane is encumber

the calculated dps on something that lives for 5s came out to around 150m, vs 15m from the viral heat flare build i was running before

[thorn oak]

I have redirection because if u run expertise and steal shield and then use penance it will get you more time

I think with my redirection and expertise if I use penance it gets me to 120 seconds which i believe is max

I always go in, use condemn, use penance and then as im getting attacked with no shield use covenant

also keep archon intensify because you are running combat discipline so you will be getting healed on kill from penance lifesteal, also granting you 30% strength

[sour harness]

Thank you I'll save this

[sour harness]

How did u get mag prime?

[bold estuary]

bought her from another player

[sour harness]

What's that average price for her set if u don't mind me asking

[barren viper]

guys shoudl i put tau str on my saryn or tau green toxic dmg

[thorn oak]

I think if u want meta saryn i believe green

I have never played saryn tho

[barren viper]

i paly for weapons paltform

with strun

[mighty flare]

5s ttk on what? theres nothing that should take that long unless ur build is poo or lacking buffs
heat + fortifier > magnetic for thrax cracking
how are you using this furis

[thorn oak]

u would have to ask saryn cuz im not 100% sure but I think people use 2 green for corrosive stacks because they make it so U can full strip with her spores

[bold estuary]

I have no idea prob like 80 ish

[fierce lark]

it was just the underframe calc that defaults to 5s, that was the total dps across 5s not 5s ttk

and against thrax mainly

[dusk cliff]

brightbonnet or nourish for mesa? thoughts for the subsume

[karmic badger]

Brightbonnet if you're not running waltz

[novel bear]

She doesn’t benefit that much from extra strength from brightbonnet
But nourish can potentially mess up hot shot weighting
I’d go nourish personally

[mighty flare]

you are not shooting thrax for 5s, at most 3s, so why sim for dps you're not dealing
it skews the build to a scenario you're not facing
if you're just using it as a pocket-thrax killer, you can just do a stackless thing

[mighty flare]

nourish

[fierce lark]

it's mostly there to be there as a weapon tbh, every primary use can kill up to cap thrax in under a second anyways so idk

heard from a furis enjoyer that cucumber full heat is the build, in practice it performs so i left it

play anything with a buff and cap thrax will blow up so full loadout barely feels like it matters

[mighty flare]

cucumber furis is fake who told you that

[night laurel]

cucumber what

[fierce lark]

guy in another server who does a lot of number crunching and enjoys the furis

but actually why is it fake? playing with it in-game there's not really a noticeable difference in ttk on base trash, and while i haven't taken a viral heat furis to cap i have taken that one and it deletes cap trash and cap thrax as well

[old marsh]

If u have to ask

[karmic ginkgo]

Hi, i would like some builds for my panzer and his claws

Claws must have elect dmg for archon strech energy regen

Ty

[drowsy herald]

Should I go for spectral spirit dagath or arcane persistence with all blue shards?

[mighty flare]

please dont put persistence on dagath

[drowsy herald]

I love health tanking man i can't wait for them to add more variety to it

[fierce lark]

even if they add a million ways to health tank, certain frames just aren't meant for it in their base stats

or have other much better ways of surviving

every frame doesn't have to be good at everything

[mighty flare]

dagath is a frame that without her augment still wouldnt health tank

[coral crest]

Health tanking? On Dagath?

Her default polarity matches briefspite

Her 1 is the most spammable shit ever

She was born to shieldgate, with the default 3 acting as a safety net

[drowsy herald]

I'm not a big fan of shieldgating

What does her augment do?

[mighty flare]

invulnerability

[coral crest]

Her 3 normally is a perma buff that gets put on a cooldown as a death save.

Augment removes the permanent effectiveness, instead making it a timed invulnerability during which enemies force drop health orbs and get doom applied to them by any damage you do. Once it runs out you have to kill enemies to reduce the cd

[mighty flare]

tldr, invulnerability

[coral crest]

It's probably worth it to try both ways

With or without

Without the augment is more consistent and gives you more kit interactivity, if you actually want to get as much out of her kit as you can

With the augment it's straight up lobotomy as long as your weapons are good enough

[drowsy herald]

So she becomes a pseudo revenant

[coral crest]

Yeah

Kind of

She also gets a great dmg buff that steals your kills

[drowsy herald]

How does her buff steal my kill when iam playing as her

[coral crest]

It's not counted as a gun kill

It's an ability kill

[drowsy herald]

Ability kill? Works for the challenges then. I normally use garuda for ability challenges

[old marsh]

SS Dagath is basically Revenant with high Dur

[coral crest]

It stores and repeats the dmg you do as true dmg

[mighty flare]

buff stores damage dealt on enemies and executes when stored damage can kill enemy
this execute isn't counted as a weapon kill so they don't stack galv mods or some arcanes

[coral crest]

The repeated dmg is ability dmg

And it triggers immediately if the enemy will die from it

[fierce lark]

don't forget her 3 crit dmg is doubled when she goes ghost

fatge

[coral crest]

Uh, no?

It doubles on doomed enemies.

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[drowsy herald]

I just like how she looks in her default skin and I wanna use her more so I'm looking for a build which is reliable

[coral crest]

Doesn't matter if ghost or not

[fierce lark]

lmao wait

[coral crest]

Ppl run her with the augment so much they forget how her kit works

[fierce lark]

close enough 🙃

[coral crest]

Bc it auto dooms

If you have no augment it's a perma crit dmg buff

That is doubled if you attack a doomed enemy

[drowsy herald]

Ya it gives me that buff as I don't have the augment

[coral crest]

You have no time constraints towards it

It only goes ghost as a death save

I prefer to play without the augment personally, she already shieldgates with zero effort, and it just makes the cd shenanigans more consistent if I want to buff a specific weapon

If you just slap a meta weapon on her then you may as well just play revenant

Unless you're here for the head hole

[bold estuary]

What is that crit buff btw is it additive?

Oh and did you win the 1k plat on prime time today? I remember they called someone out with a similar username to yours

[fierce lark]

additive % crit damage

[coral crest]

Crit dmg boost is additive.

Attacking doomed enemies straight up doubles your total cd

[bold estuary]

Oh! That’s a lot of cd

[coral crest]

The amount it's doubled by is affected by str too

[fierce lark]

yeah if you shoot something with a nukor and you have 300% ability strength your crits are casually doing like 53x dmg

[coral crest]

The downside is that the kill is stolen

[fierce lark]

goofy frame

[bold estuary]

Yet another painfully shit description for a dagath ability

[coral crest]

50x cd kinda makes up for it though

[drowsy herald]

I'm here for the head hole

[fierce lark]

as long as your bullet is able to kill the target you will still get kill credit

so you don't really notice it with high dmg weapons or on headshots (because headshot crit dmg is doubled multiplicatively lmao)

[bold estuary]

Oh I suppose that’s why my catabolyst was doing millions with her come to think of it😭

[coral crest]

Yeah with the best weapons your cd just outpaces the doom

[mighty flare]

its weakest option between flare/fortifier, and also inconsistent, not sure why'd you ever take it
if damage isn't an issue, might as well run fortifier for qol

[coral crest]

That's why I'm saying that if you're running the augment comfortably enough to keep the cooldowns a non-issue, do you even need Dagath

Feels like a waste outside of fashion purposes

Because she looks badass with dual tox

[bold estuary]

Yeah this augments kinda boring looking at it I figured it made dagath keep everything normal and just apply weaker doom with her weapons

[mighty flare]

weaker doom?

[coral crest]

Yeah augment trades lobotomy for cheaper doom and invuln

[bold estuary]

Her 2 doom % is higher than the 3 augment %

[mighty flare]

what

[bold estuary]

2 higher base than 3 augment

[coral crest]

Huh? I'm pretty sure it takes up your unsubsumed doom stats

[mighty flare]

doom from 2 and augment are the same?

[velvet pulsar]

Any good resurgence weapon rn?

[fierce lark]

general use cases they all kill everything within milliseconds of each other, cucumber offers the benefit of extremely high dps vs bosses if you don't want to switch setups

i cant rly argue against fortifier for thrax specifically, it is slower at cap but only by about 1s

[coral crest]

Unless it's been broken for a while and nobody noticed

Because the only frames less popular than her are Banshee and Qorvex, unironically

[bold estuary]

Being above banshee and qorvex is an achievement

[mighty flare]

where are you getting this from

[drowsy herald]

Qorvex is a fraudtank

[velvet pulsar]

I applied a forma and tried Fused Crucible Qorvex in ESO yesterday

After 2 runs decided not to play Qorvex, even when I had max Universal Fallout

[fierce lark]

qorvex sucks water is wet what's new

[coral crest]

That's not what I'm talking about

I'm talking about the 2025 usage stats

[fierce lark]

i wonder if the dagath giveaway (or the fact she's getting a prime) will give her a popularity bump this year

[velvet pulsar]

Limbo above Grendel sure is surprising

Maybe me and the handful players kept it up

[bold estuary]

I can’t actually find the base % for her 3 augment I just know it’s lower than 35% which is her twos

[mighty flare]

???

[velvet pulsar]

Free frame always does that

[coral crest]

Not enough fashion points comparatively

[drowsy herald]

Dagath prime? No way

[velvet pulsar]

That'll change then

[coral crest]

Oh yeah, new Grendel Deluxe will even change the sound design

[drowsy herald]

I'm waiting for kullervo prime because I don't have time to farm for him and his resources

[coral crest]

It'll definitely bump him up in popularity

[mighty flare]

just making shit up then?

[coral crest]

Should be third in line this year

[fierce lark]

isn't grendel a god damn gundam or some shit lmfao

[drowsy herald]

What are the first and second?

[fierce lark]

with his gut being a big ass blender

[bold estuary]

No I know it’s lower by base just not the % numbers

[coral crest]

Styanax and Voruna

[bold estuary]

And I can’t check cause I’m not in game

[night laurel]

Nutribullet
thats why its called Nourish

[coral crest]

Then Citrine at the end of the year, after Kullervo

[drowsy herald]

Citrine and kullervo are in my list

[bold estuary]

I was expecting citrine in fall then kullervo in winter probably

[velvet pulsar]

I can finally subsume styanax

[coral crest]

Ppl still think the release order is mmff

[bold estuary]

Wouldn’t it be mmff so styn voruna citrine then kullervo?

Oh damn 😭

[velvet pulsar]

Immediately fell for it

[coral crest]

They switched to mfmf for some time now

[drowsy herald]

I just want kullervo prime he looks so rad

[bold estuary]

Oh that means bum kullervo prime before peak crystal prime

[coral crest]

Last year it was Lavos, Yareli, Caliban, Gyre

[bold estuary]

Does caliban count as a male frame😭

[coral crest]

Yeah?

[drowsy herald]

Sentient frame

[night laurel]

he will 👅

[coral crest]

Yeah?

[bold estuary]

I only ask cause he’s a sentient I didn’t know if he was masculine pronouns with the community just cause his names masculine

[coral crest]

He is an amalgam of a warframe and a sentient

[drowsy herald]

I hope we get sentient companions.

[coral crest]

Not a full sentient

[velvet pulsar]

Any good resurgence weapon rn?

[coral crest]

You won't believe what piece of lore I'm about to tell you

[drowsy herald]

I wanna breed my own sentient and have it

[night laurel]

you wanna what 😳

[bold estuary]

I don’t think so? Be better off getting a prime frame or death cube

[fierce lark]

fragor pretty good i think?

[drowsy herald]

Like you breed kubrows

[night laurel]

modular sentients would be cute

[coral crest]

Did you know that Sentinels aren't just random ass robots as a generic lroduct of technology? They're living biomechanical organisms that adapt to their environment

[night laurel]

this is my pet BAO (Big Ass Ortholyst)

[coral crest]

They were found at the fringe of the origin system

[cunning spindle]

They also have a sentient skin

[drowsy herald]

Like natah said. Her father was a farmer. So sentients are breedable? I'd need a sentient egg ig

[coral crest]

They're most likely sentient in nature

[night laurel]

werent they made? check detron crewman impront iirc

[drowsy herald]

I thought the orkin made them?

[coral crest]

I think only one of the sentinels isn't this weird creature

[bold estuary]

Why not make a sentient egg then

[coral crest]

And it's corpus drone

And corpus tend to use sentient bits and pieces anyway

[velvet pulsar]

*aura farmer

[drowsy herald]

Ig sentient cores

[mighty flare]

are we fr bringing up bosses in 2026

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-bedtime-kitty-eepy-eepy-car-meow-gif-1219326997603124549

[deep spade]

any good ember prime builds?

[drowsy herald]

Maybe onkko is making an army of sentients with all the cores he robs from us

[velvet pulsar]

BTW if u play Silver Grove for aura mods...

Will u be called Aura Farmer?

[coral crest]

"Are Sentients breedable"

[drowsy herald]

WOMB

[coral crest]

We have canonical Hunhow mpreg and you're asking this

[drowsy herald]

I wonder who got hunhow knocked up like that

[night laurel]

cmiiw

[fierce lark]

it's the same, just tested

[bold estuary]

Oh I suppose I was just sayin shit then

[coral crest]

Praghasa

[bold estuary]

My fault

[coral crest]

She's called Erra's and Lotus' mother repeatedly

[fierce lark]

unmodded praedos melee added 38 dmg to my doom's cast, hitting 3 and throwing a melee did 38 dmg total with the doom scythe

maybe you thought 3 doom was less because the cast of doom itself does damage

idk

[old marsh]

I smell Dagath rework when her prime releases next year

[fierce lark]

wait why tf did i think dagath was this year

[night laurel]

i stand corrected, thanks!

[coral crest]

Has to be the biggest lore asspull in the game

[fierce lark]

i forgot about citrine

[coral crest]

Yeah she's next year

[fierce lark]

as did everybody else

[night laurel]

man i still think gauss was this year

[coral crest]

Qorvex, Dagath, Dante, Jade for 2027

[old marsh]

Dante Prime finna break the game fr

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[night laurel]

2.1 BILLION OVERGUARD

[old marsh]

Augment that converts all the loop casts into a single cast and gets rid of Noctua

[winter cypress]

you guys using ninjase phenmor?

[fierce lark]

ye

[coral crest]

Phenmor? More like Peenor

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/laser-destroy-heresy-purge-buttom-gif-17565647

[compact cypress]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yeah-speed-ishowspeed-D63HGAzG15LQrjBPRE

[fierce lark]

i mean i cant use phenmor because i play dagath and i need my weapons to be able to crit but ye

[winter cypress]

thinking if I should follow it fully or copy most mods and replace some

[fierce lark]

follow the bases

[winter cypress]

I mainly changing only the elements

like keep serration, aptitude, chamber and shred

[fierce lark]

base damage, multishot, fire rate, punch through, viral heat/elec or corrosive cold with the primed cold mod and then you have like 1-2 slots for whatever

a typical 3 element crit rifle build on phenmor swaps the crit mods for like serration and whatever you want in the last slot

[winter cypress]

guess i'm gonna go heat viral

well, I do swap configs depending on the enemy

[velvet pulsar]

[fierce lark]

how to make your gun worse: a short story

[velvet pulsar]

Crit phenmor build can now get more ideal than attrition perk

[fierce lark]

even if you godrolled a crit riven, it has pissposition

[velvet pulsar]

Xata no more double dips attrition but does double dip the headshot perk on phenmor

So xata phenmor still persists but in a different form

[winter cypress]

what forma polarity do I go for 3rd one

[drowsy herald]

A ship ?

[winter cypress]

madurai then

[velvet pulsar]

Unairu

[winter cypress]

unairu be circle polarity

[night laurel]

i call it the spiky c

[winter cypress]

I haven't forma my vinquibus

[coral crest]

She's a massive sentient

Who became braindead after a void venture, using her body to shield others inside

[fierce lark]

black pickaxe polarity

[drowsy herald]

So there can be a sentient car too then

[fierce lark]

ew minecraft

[coral crest]

They're evolved machines, storage is something they obviously accounted for

So Lotus' mom is so big she almost ate the sun

[compact cypress]

lmao whats wrong

[fierce lark]

idk

[fierce lark]

lotus' mom new category

[drowsy herald]

Ballas was using her to eat the sun?

[coral crest]

Yep

[brazen berry]

Anyone got a super high health oraxia build?

[modern yoke]

Anyone mind helping me with a proper Baruuk build?

[idle crescent]

is fulmin affected by -magazine capacity?

[karmic badger]

Yes

[idle crescent]

ok

[deep grotto]

Sentinels have lore??

[jovial mirage]

https://giphy.com/gifs/disneypixar-disney-pixar-QnVI2bPoZ0tag

what comes out of the shadows when we reach tau

[tawny lava]

Anyone except Disney cars

[coral crest]

Yeah

Not only this, but also some leverian pages

Meanwhile Garuda is broke

[night laurel]

we could just make up garuda lore outta nowhere

i saw garuda hatch in mississipi yst

[midnight horizon]

Is there really no way to give mesa enough armor to tank using persistence without sacrificing a lot

Like bro even a single melee can do it with melee fortification, but she ain't melee

[pallid quiver]

why would u make mesa a persistence tank

[midnight horizon]

@latent adder you made the gloomesa build, any ideas?

[latent adder]

shards really

[midnight horizon]

Because shieldgating is cringe

[latent adder]

u just lose some crit its not big deal

[midnight horizon]

Shards is still a huge sacrifice lwk

But I'll try

[latent adder]

otherwise try unairu

[midnight horizon]

Why is shieldgate cringe? If it's the reason of overused I will agree even though I shield gate

I mean health tanking is the other but some frames cannot health tank so they use either their abilities or shieldgating

It's overused and I'm getting too old to spam my buttons. Can't be having arthritis at 20 yo

[midnight horizon]

Oh I have lazy shield gating that doesn't require spamming hahahaha

I have it too, just not on mesa

The overused Brief Respite + Cata is not my style

[midnight horizon]

Is it the one that recharges the shield for you in an instant?

I got cata + omamori + 2 shield regen mods + aegis on xaku and mirage

They don't need any spamming to survive

But again that's not mesa

[midnight horizon]

I only have Cata, Aegis and Omamori hahahaha

[thorn oak]

that is so overkill on mirage

[midnight horizon]

That's it

I like overkill

[midnight horizon]

Some people remove her DR bc it'll be useless in higher levels

[thorn oak]

U wont die with just omamori on mirage if u have her clones up

[midnight horizon]

Ah well yeah but you need to move a lot

[thorn oak]

okay but her damage reduction is also her damage boost so it makes no sense

[brisk quail]

Hey guys could anyone help me with diriga weapons please

[midnight horizon]

I remove her uuh I think her uuh her landmine ability

[midnight horizon]

Well I don't use Mirage, I use Vauban and Hydroid for most part

[thorn oak]

no u dont her clones lower chance of u getting hit and so does omamori for 50% so you have like no chance of getting hit

[midnight horizon]

@thorn oak ^

Either way I really want to health tank mesa with lifesteal and persistence

[thorn oak]

it doesnt matter whether u remove her 2nd or 4th but if U have omamori on her all u gotta do is keep her clones up and U wont even get hit by anything

[midnight horizon]

Does it work? If it's not then she is not for Health Tanking

[midnight horizon]

I mean in any form of decoy it's... Yeah doable hahahah

[midnight horizon]

I still do get hit by something once in a blue moon, so I just go for overkill because I can

[midnight horizon]

Not really looking to minmax anything at this point

[midnight horizon]

Trying it out rn

[midnight horizon]

Then good luck

[thorn oak]

this is what I run and to not die on the once in a blue moon hits I just run guardian on my companion

[pallid quiver]

her 4th is cool tho

[thorn oak]

dude whattt I might put null star on my mirage that would be crazy

oh nevermind

[midnight horizon]

while me I don't have a problem with those bc of using easy spammy frames.... Go go Hydroid and Vauban

[thorn oak]

yea but her 4th is not useful at all in high level

and her second is actually useable in eso

[pallid quiver]

wait what

why

[thorn oak]

give me like a minute and ill show u

nevermind

[midnight horizon]

Lack of damage, possibly underwhelming

[thorn oak]

But yes it does like no damage

[midnight horizon]

Brute force guessing that that's the answer to it

And I am right

[pallid quiver]

nah show me

[thorn oak]

and also you have to have range for it to be decent and to have a lot of range means losing strength which results in you having less damage buff

[midnight horizon]

How high of a level is the cap for the 4?

Let me guess. 600 to 1000?

[thorn oak]

lot lower than that it sucks

[midnight horizon]

300?

[pallid quiver]

oh fr

tbf i kinda dumped range and eff for dur str so

[thorn oak]

when i used it, it did not feel good past like 200

[pallid quiver]

but then again i wanna use prism guard its so cool

[midnight horizon]

Damn that is underwhelming af

[thorn oak]

the best way to play mirage is max strength damage boost and aoe weapons

[pallid quiver]

which weapons would u consider best for her

akarius?

[midnight horizon]

Kuva ogris hahaha

[thorn oak]

I always use the acceltra

[pallid quiver]

ugh im like 1 part away from acceltra p

[thorn oak]

akarius would work too

[pallid quiver]

does it need rifle ammo mutation

[thorn oak]

I would probably run it

[pallid quiver]

where do i farm the base parts for both akarius and acceltra

the primes are very far from my reach rn

[thorn oak]

what part do u need for the acceltra

[midnight horizon]

Acceltra is around 25 to 30 rn hahahah

[thorn oak]

I can open relics and try to get u an acceltra prime but no promises

I have the rare parts already

well one of them

[pallid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/muhehehe-gif-11037525145585928229

[karmic badger]

Ur, uranus, the demolisher units drop em

1.25% drop chance btw

[pallid quiver]

pain and suffering

[midnight horizon]

God damn that's low

[echo pendant]

Nice joke twin

Uranus 🥹

[pallid quiver]

its gonna be like farming for CO 😭

[karmic badger]

Considering the amount of demolishers you'll burn through farming relics

[midnight horizon]

Speaking off, I got Hate finally!!!!!

But I need the Incarnon and Burning hate for it tbh

(God damn Burning Hate is very expensive!!!!!)

[karmic badger]

Upside is disruption is great for farming relics...

[karmic badger]

Nightwave augment that hasn't returned

[pallid quiver]

im missing the stock for acceltra P

is that the super expensive part

[thorn oak]

i might be able to get that

[karmic badger]

Akkarius and its prime feel very different

[pallid quiver]

oh fr?

[karmic badger]

Its the rare part yes

[thorn oak]

I honestly dont like the akarius that much

[pallid quiver]

whats the difference between akarius and its prime

[midnight horizon]

Bro when.... WHENNNNNNN

But like damn the r0 is like 160p.......

[karmic badger]

Akkarius is full auto, prime is 2 round burst

[midnight horizon]

Cosmetixs

Hahahaahahahaha

[karmic badger]

Of course the prime has better damage and crit stats

[pallid quiver]

oh bruhhhhh i have everything for akarius prime except the main bp

im literally missing 1 piece each for both 😭

[echo pendant]

The one piece

[pallid quiver]

fr

the two piece in my case

is the brakk good at all

[midnight horizon]

Aight I gtg

Cya tennos!!!!!

[karmic badger]

Frankly both gauss weapons are mr fodder

[pallid quiver]

wait what

[karmic badger]

Acceltra will carry through the star chart, but i find its steel path performance fickle

[pallid quiver]

i thought they were really strong apart from ammo effeciency

[midnight horizon]

Acceltra Prime tho is good in SP.... Though only for enemies under level 600 hahahaha

[karmic badger]

Ammo is a big deal, but also alot of their damage is in the explosion, meaning you can't boost with gunCO

[solid delta]

Acceltra is not worth the investment guys

[midnight horizon]

It's worth a bit, I had fun out of it especially with Hydroid hahaha

[karmic badger]

And the status chance is so low on the acceltra that hunter munitions is pretty much the only status you can use lmao

[echo pendant]

I gamble on the index it wasn't worth it but I got it bck

[karmic badger]

I've pumped 4 forma into the acceltra. The amount of external buffs and setup needed would make other weapons incredible

[midnight horizon]

Electric does too, and viral

I do Corrosive + Viral + Elec

[solid delta]

If you’re want an explosive weapon there are better options

[echo pendant]

yea like explosive kunai

[thorn oak]

if you are using mirage with damage buff the acceltra is more than enough

[solid delta]

Explosive rifles that is

[midnight horizon]

Incarnoff Torid... Still my fav hahahahab

[karmic badger]

You can't have both corrosive and viral

[pallid quiver]

those exist?

[sour harness]

What's a "neutral str"? (Sorry I'm a little dumb)

[solid delta]

Nourish 🗣️

[echo pendant]

in naruto

[karmic badger]

Aegrit, you get like, 6 in total lmao

[thorn oak]

I am in level 140 sp killing fine with the acceltra

[midnight horizon]

External buff, you can hahahah

Hydroid's 3 and 1 and Viral on a weapon

Corrosive + Viral

[echo pendant]

They actually exist?

[karmic badger]

100%

[midnight horizon]

Just 100%

[sour harness]

Ok😆

[solid delta]

I have corrosive blast on torid and nourish

It’s pretty op

[pallid quiver]

whats that

[solid delta]

If you like the acceltra I recommend the laetum incarnon

[karmic badger]

The amount of investment to make the acceltra good would make other weapons great

[midnight horizon]

I have Corrosive Cold in Torid but I rarely use the Incarnon

And it's sooooo good to use without relying on Incarnon

[solid delta]

It’s basically the same thing but like 10x the damage output

[karmic badger]

Laetum gets multiplicative base damage

[pallid quiver]

holy shit

[karmic badger]

And its a secondary with access to hornet strike

[midnight horizon]

Dang buffs

[solid delta]

You can run cascadia flare on the laetum and oneshot most stuff you see

With like 200 shots on incarnon form

[midnight horizon]

Guys is Hate Incarnon without Burning hate good?

Or that's a needed augment

[karmic badger]

Acceltra also loses 50% of its damage if you shoot it point blank

[echo pendant]

Js made 48 plat from selling aya is dis a good method

[thorn oak]

when u have 1k% damage buff it does not matter

[midnight horizon]

You need 6 ayas to sell a lot... Like if they go

6:30p, then they want full trades.... But yes, it's a good strat

[echo pendant]

13 aya was da amount I got

[solid delta]

I’m gonna be honest if you like the torid without incarnon you should get the kuva ogris

[echo pendant]

48 not bad for a start

[solid delta]

It’s 30p for 6 aya normally

[midnight horizon]

Nah, knockback's a btch so Torid... Plus I love the smoke it produce, it shredded enemies from level 200 to 2000

And the Incarnon buff from Torid is good

[solid delta]

What knock back? Kuva ogris with the augment makes it a napalm gun just like the torid but with way more range

[midnight horizon]

I... Like.. Uses Torid 80% incarOFF and 20% incarnON

I uses the Incarnon if the mission is too overwhelming

[solid delta]

Lol I use the non incarnon for like 1% of the time

[midnight horizon]

Hahahah fair point

[solid delta]

It takes 2 shots to fully charge the incarnon form

[hollow plover]

lets gooo

[midnight horizon]

Ifhats true

[hollow plover]

which mod should i replace

[solid delta]

Sometimes only one shot because the blast element charges the incarnon form too

For some reason

[midnight horizon]

0ressure point

[hollow plover]

oh im gonna need forma...

[solid delta]

You need one more element on that build

[midnight horizon]

I just love Corrosive Cold it's because it slows the enemy while getting shredded in the smoke hahaha

[solid delta]

Also where is the arcane slot?

[midnight horizon]

Probably non SP

[solid delta]

There is no point slowing them down if you kill them in a blink

[midnight horizon]

I go for thematics.... They all complain that Torid is cringe to bc it's too powerful

So I made it fit for me

Not that powerful, not that weak, just right

[solid delta]

That’s fair

[midnight horizon]

I'm just very tired of it tbh.....

[solid delta]

Personally I love making stuff overkill

[karmic prism]

what am i looking for in hema i bought the coda one

[midnight horizon]

I use Hydroid with Torid sooo yeah

[solid delta]

Them grineers deserve no mercy

[karmic prism]

also trying to grind nightwave for the aug mod

[solid delta]

I use rhino in combination with nourish subsume

[midnight horizon]

I just love using Torid with Hydroid with the VIRAL tempest mod hahahahah

[solid delta]

I don’t use any of his augments I think they’re useless

[midnight horizon]

Rhino?

[sour harness]

What do u think of my Mag?
(Also I don't know which arcanes to put so I sent a pic of all the arcanes I have)

[solid delta]

Ironclad charge is worthless there is no point getting millions of overguard if you can just recast it

[solid delta]

Yes

[midnight horizon]

Ah yeah... He is good withoit The Augs, but... It's like if you don't have anything good to put, sure hahahaha

Aight need to wash dishes cya!

[solid delta]

Bye

[late talon]

cya dishwasher

[mellow nimbus]

Is the extra ammo from primed ammo chain worth the dps loss from replacing a mod?

[late hemlock]

did he just bring fulmination twice before bringing out firestorm? oof

[night laurel]

with multCO guns, do you use Deadhead or P. Crux?

[late hemlock]

if you use it to deal actual damage deadhead is just way more damage

[late hemlock]

especially if you arent priming with the same weapon to begin with

[night laurel]

i see, thanks!

[hollow plover]

ohh

[solid delta]

Yes, should be electric

[midnight horizon]

I'm a man tho***

[gaunt wasp]

What the hell

[thorn oak]

mirage moment

[pallid quiver]

helps with guns that dont have much ammo capacity

[solid delta]

It’s either maximum ammo or magazine capacity you’re not making sense

[thorn oak]

its ammo maximum which isnt very helpful

[solid delta]

Exactly 👍

Who is firing all the ammo in an archgun

[pallid quiver]

dont archguns just recharge ammo anyways

[solid delta]

Only if you’re using the necramech

Or in arcwing missions

[karmic badger]

Heavy weapon deployment

So basically only for ETA when that specific modifier shows up lmao

[midnight horizon]

Truly a build of all time

Absolute cinema ong

[upbeat helm]

If I put arcane hot shot on Frost, what is the best way to proc it?

[midnight horizon]

Sunder I guess

[karmic prism]

would something like this carry me through deep archimedia with gauss?

[mystic remnant]

Anyone have a good atlas rumbled build? Or just one for his rumblers work too

[velvet sundial]

If I put a status effect on an exalted weapon does that count as “ability kills” archon mods?

[astral tinsel]

Unless it's heat and there was already a non-ability heat proc on the enemy

[solemn plaza]

what would be a better subsume for this build? nokko's or nourish?
oh i also don't know which strength mods should i use for the last slot

[haughty otter]

Do you guys have any recommend early primary that worth investing?

[nocturne heron]

what are some good acolyte killers for lvl cap?

(weapons)

[midnight horizon]

Laetum

Zaw contagion

Literally any slam melee

Furries incarnon

[velvet pulsar]

Nokko's

[midnight horizon]

There's so many options

[velvet pulsar]

Acolytes have resistance against non-crit hits BTW

But I think their DR doesn't work on AoEs

[midnight horizon]

Yeah you can go crit laetum, I do think it's better anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Me 2

[solemn plaza]

ah ty"

[velvet pulsar]

Crit laetum uses the headshot perk or the additive perk?

[nocturne heron]

primaries preferably.... also zaws do pretty little damage for me... same for slam melees (they only seem to work on certain builds, not with uriel)

[trim hill]

Hek

[old marsh]

Furis that u get from junction. no other weapon u need to invest in as upgraded versions and better alternatives u will get later

[versed harbor]

that is infact a secondary

[karmic badger]

Cedo from the necralisk

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

my b. didnt even see primary

[verbal sky]

what gun do i use with gauss prime

[karmic badger]

Something that wants firerate

And has the ammo to feed it

Though with gauss. You could get away with just spamming heat sunder

[verbal sky]

i havent played in a while tbh i forgot what most shit does on most characters

i mainly use gauss and octavia

[midnight horizon]

how do i make this better

[karmic badger]

What's on the riven?

Aside from swapping to primed cryo?

[midnight horizon]

damnit that was kiteer last week

[brittle sleet]

-Status duration kills your status applications so hard

[night laurel]

inconspicuous but actually horrible riven neg

"status duration? well if my TTK is <5s it shouldnt be an issue!" your heat stacks now decay as fast as you stack them

[karmic badger]

Buut the armor strip is faster

[versed harbor]

-100% means you dont apply status

[karmic badger]

I mean acuity and deadhead, hopefully whatever being shot at dies before the procs come into effect

If you do ditch the riven, hammer shot is basically the same thing, minus the downside and slash damage

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/935570/uriel/fire-and-brimstone-uriel-hybrid-nuke-and-weapon-platform/

What would be a good melee to use with this?

[near vortex]

jat Kittag

[karmic badger]

Does uriels weapon buff apply to melees? Cause i only know it applies a second instance of heat and gun fire rate buff

[solid delta]

It doesn’t buff melee

[cosmic canopy]

Looking for a high slash focused melee and build plz

[dusty dragon]

is it just me, or is arcane universal fallout kinda... mid, even on qorvex?

[ruby perch]

im trying to find fun in dagath but she feels clunky to me, any advice? (beside casting speed)

[woven lynx]

mates

is this build good for level cap? anyone?

For Gyre

[mighty flare]

clunky how

[mighty flare]

adaptation wont work cap, you'd need something else
otherwise looks ok

[high turtle]

Good subsumes for loki

[woven lynx]

what do I use for it?

any recommendation

[mighty flare]

catalyzing shields, fast deflection + vigilante vigor
or use the vazarin focus class

[woven lynx]

catalyzing shields it is then

[karmic beacon]

4 Forma Okina Prime Build by ninjase - Okina Prime INCARNON | Electric Influence - Overframe https://share.google/GAfjwO1tMj3kwFGJV

Would this work without Incarnon? Also would I change electric mod to heat? And change arcane?

[fierce lark]

would it work? depends what you're doing

would it be anywhere near as good? no

[deep grotto]

I saw my melee combo counter turn red once thoigh

Could’ve just been the game buggin

[late hemlock]

generally using weapons that got an incarnon adapter available without the adapater is not very strong, thats why they got the adapter in the first place

[deep grotto]

Okina incarnon just funnier to use anyway

[solid delta]

Should be a bug. Sometimes I see my incarnon form do that too

[deep grotto]

Given the spectral blades shenanigans

[solid delta]

Incarnon guns

[deep grotto]

Ye

[fierce lark]

it's probably a bug but it's easily reproduceable and not exactly gamebreaking so i can't imagine getting into trouble for it

[deep grotto]

Because the fact that the blades innate cold still combines with present mods, but also procs on its own anyway
Quite hilarious
Although someone once said “if you’ve seen the okina you’ve seen the dual ichor”
Does the dual ichor do the same thing or something

Hm
No it don’t

[fierce lark]

i dont see any similarity other than "dual wield influence"

and they both do something on kill

[deep grotto]

Yeah im not really sure why they said that

[fierce lark]

tbf

if you've seen one light attack influence weapon you've seen most of them

they all build the same and most of them play the same

[karmic beacon]

What would you recommend instead? I'm trying to use Uriel but have no idea what melee to add to him

[deep grotto]

Melee prime….

[fierce lark]

uriel doesn't synergize particularly well with melee so it doesn't really matter which one you use?

just anything generically good. anything ending in "incarnon", harmony, corufell, most glaives, nikana prime, dual viciss, guandao prime

stuff

[karmic beacon]

Oki, thank you

[fierce lark]

trying to remember what non-incarnon light melees are good is a task

the answer is probably most of them, melee was already overtuned to make up for lack of range before influence became a thing

[velvet pulsar]

U can take advantage of Uriel's flight to give slams more height

[quiet laurel]

praedos

[velvet pulsar]

Or u can use speedstick melees like I do

[quiet laurel]

the only right answer for frames that dont use melees

[velvet pulsar]

Okina's movement speed

[quiet laurel]

praedos gives more fr

[velvet pulsar]

Though I'm wondering if movement speed affects Uriel's flight...

Has anyone played Uriel with a volt? Nah wait does volt also increases parkour velocity?

[fierce lark]

pretty sure it's not affected by movement speed? can't say for certain

[velvet pulsar]

I should remember to take coda mire with him instead

[maiden oracle]

Nah just sprint speed iirc

[fierce lark]

just dodge speed and parkour velocity