builds-discussion

[coral crest]

Or aerial if you want your pet to stay alive with guns

[fierce lark]

no contagious because it's meant for lvlcap priming

the survivability part im not sure

the hound probably isn't doing the killing

unless that's what he wants, idk

just reload lots and it'll shield gate smile

tbh it can probably survive most packs off of repo audit

or it can't lmao idk this is why i just have wyrm follow me around

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

we all know it aint happening

[karmic badger]

they gonna troll us and give us Primed Serration

Prime Bladed Rounds

[fierce lark]

okay but like, genuinely

[karmic badger]

yeah now that i think of it

[fierce lark]

can we PLEASE have galvanized sight

[karmic badger]

galvanized Ammo Drum

[fierce lark]

what's the galvanized effect

[nova swift]

reload speed/ammo efficiency per kill ;D

[fierce lark]

dude it's an exilus what the hell

i wonder if they'll add another way to get weapon exilus adapters after they add omni requiem relics

[karmic badger]

Frankly either would be genuinely awesome

Also more ways to get infinite bullets

[thorn oak]

they do need more ways to get exilus weapon adapters holy moly

[chrome badge]

add them to normal relics 🗣️

[velvet pulsar]

Primed Rapid Resilience

-101% status duration on self.

[velvet pulsar]

We currently have:
Acrithis shop
1999 calendar
Baro?
Sorties
Archon Hunt
Decendia?

These are for the built ones.

[astral tinsel]

20

[velvet pulsar]

Never

[thorn oak]

I guess ur right

now where are all the places to buy kuva thats what im interested in

[narrow granite]

dis gud enuf for archim?

[thorn oak]

who is this for

[narrow granite]

there is a obvious tell in the stance

the rumpkitten 😄

[thorn oak]

?

[late hemlock]

Slash is borderline negative because it will help slash proc more over other elements and you dont really want that

Id just go left

[thorn oak]

Word\

I dont actually know what the braton incarnon stats look like

yea dude just give me all the ammo

should have rerolled I need you again

is crit damage or chance more valuable on this thing

ammo maximum is kinda dog but the fire rate would be nice for sure

[fierce lark]

ammo max sucks but right is forced unless you want radiation

Incarnon form is 50% aoe pure heat

[thorn oak]

is there a way i could get around radiation

[fierce lark]

mod corrosive, only reasonable way

but you’d have to either mod corro blast or lose primed cold

[thorn oak]

corrosive blast aint too bad

and I think its easier to get crit chance than crit damage

well unless people do headshot builds with the braton

[fierce lark]

it’s basically burston jr

[thorn oak]

ill keep the left i guess

[fierce lark]

the no multishot on hitscan aoe still applies here so acuity is usable

[thorn oak]

oh alright so I have crit chance already set then

I dont even have the incarnon for it yet i gotta wait like 2 weeks

[true hound]

am i going in a good direction w this? last slot prolly serration, exilus vigilante supplies. Any suggestions?

[sly island]

Arcanes Fortier is good for Excalibur?

[tepid plover]

Hey guys I'm new to the game I want to build mods around this riven

[narrow granite]

what infusion y'all reomend for valkyr for deep archi survivability? am thinkin gloom :-?

[teal holly]

I'd start with cold to make Blast, or Toxin for Gas, to do some AoE. After that, it depends on what you want to do with the gun.

[velvet pulsar]

Well of Life

[narrow granite]

frik trinity...too lazy to farm her xDD but also gloom isnt it better cuz of defense mission and cc :-?

[karmic badger]

Wrathful advance, kill faster, heal faster

[nova swift]

yea you lifesteal a ton already, you can either slap persistence on her or armor + adaptation. Should still be enough dr for EDA/ETA

[narrow granite]

it be part of mi missing subsumes x.x

wanted somethin cc wise cuz a lot of shit goes on xD

[thorn oak]

what is this evil ahh helminth

hell minth'

[narrow granite]

adjusted a bit

I hate that tank T-T

[steady heron]

So after dumping around 30 forma on a “lore accurate” Jade build with all her weapons maximizing the synergy of the build and utilizing every gimmicks to its full potential i can safely say everything jade related is the definition of mid

A really fun mid tho i recommend heavily to anyone who has 30 forma to waste

[teal holly]

When Jade Prime comes out, I'll definitely consider it.

[deep grotto]

Which one
Melee, primary, secondary??

[karmic badger]

Fortifier is a secondary

The one that steals overguard

Tbh better option is circumvent, since you can use it while swinging exalted blade

[steady heron]

Depends how badly you need overguard. If you really need overguard imo arcane circumvent is just soooo much better going for fortifier also limits your secondary by a lot since they have some of the most busted arcanes in game

[teal holly]

Circumvent also does armor strip, which is huge.

[steady heron]

And free shield gate on corpus missions

[sly island]

Secondary

[sly island]

Yeah

[distant wedge]

anyone got SP builds for Umbra and Skiajati?

[sharp flame]

what galvanized mod should I get? Its my first time buying and I have 36 vitus essence

[late hemlock]

Galv chamber and its equivalents

[sharp flame]

wdym equivalents?

[odd dome]

They mean all the multishot mods for all weapon types

[velvet pulsar]

Since u already have a lot of lifesteal, well of life will be better than gloom.

And then u also have the advantage of status immunity if valkyr doesn't have already.

And I guess u can damage the well target to stay immortal.

Even more ideal with persistence

[narrow granite]

I am good with gloom...managed to do it. The slow is what I needed to come in clutch

[slow trellis]

can someone hook me up with a stropha build? not sure what people generally build on it. do i want 12x combo or heavy attack spam?

or something else entirely?

[narrow granite]

If you have exposure or dupli, even better

[slow trellis]

exposure? dupli?

do you mean those arcanes? i dont have any

idk how to get them

[slow trellis]

what should i have instead of riven?

gladiator might? something else?

[night laurel]

how good is melee duplicate outside of paper?

[coral crest]

It basically repeats the hit, you probably need a good melee to begin with for it to do good

Slapping with a cardboard tube twice instead of once won't make a huge difference

[velvet pulsar]

It bad

Anything which demands u to lock ur crit to a specific tier is bad

Coz u can't always rely on it in practical mission

Puncture priming itself will create problems

[slow trellis]

why do i want corrupt charge on my stropha?

[brisk estuary]

Which should I pick

(Kuva Zarr)

[slow trellis]

toxin probably

more versatile as an element

[brisk estuary]

All that time spent killing that lich for a 3% increase

💔

[deep grotto]

Should have sold Ligg Makk bro

Reasonably silly name

[velvet pulsar]

@deep grotto

[night laurel]

"Ligg Makk is here..."
"Ligg Makk who?"
""

[versed harbor]

its faster if u wait for a high % weapon and then fuse the lower ones into it

[deep grotto]

NO WAY

[versed harbor]

the only % that matters in fusion is the higher one so as soon as you find one higher you've wasted a zarr

[velvet pulsar]

Yes, this is the way.

[astral tinsel]

It lets you spam stronger heavy attacks

[night laurel]

Dorrclave, how am I doing? feels a bit slow without harrow, but once i get the attack speed going its pretty good

has been melting lv 160s in the sim so far

rip slash-focused weapon you wouldve been awesome pre-jade shadows

[brisk estuary]

Ligg makk BALLS

[brisk estuary]

I’ve already built the OGG TYGG

[versed harbor]

rip

[karmic badger]

wait a minute

uber stupid idea, i know hounds can activate melee arcanes

melee afflictions hound

[night laurel]

<@&778745217037238293> smh

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

I have done for 2%

Two 25% ones 😭

[stiff yarrow]

That’s the one I ended up going with thanks for the advice I’m still pretty new to rivens and all that

[old marsh]

general rule of thumb. unless u have lots of kuva and r looking for specific stats (say u want low weighting viral) then dont invest in 1 or 2 dot Rivens.

[stiff yarrow]

What’s 1 or 2 dot mean?

[old marsh]

for Envoy it made sense coz i was gonna use hammer shot on it anyways. so that riven is just an upgrade over that

[stiff yarrow]

Oh is that the disposition

[old marsh]

See Disposition stat. 1 dot

ye

[stiff yarrow]

Alright great thank you

[drowsy pelican]

Wf build YouTubers trying to not suggest diriga+a bond mod to new players

[orchid wing]

What would be best for a crew guy? Kuva Zarr or Ogris? 🤔 my zarr % kind of sucks (36) compared to my Ogris (52) but dunno what would be better in the long run. Or are there other better weaponsf or them?

[quiet laurel]

zarr

[orchid wing]

🤔

dammit my emojis. this means I must continue my hunt for liches....

[obtuse socket]

I feel like vauban should have an overguard augment for his 4 to help with his survivability

[midnight horizon]

Nah

His survivability is good enough....overguard is an over kill and straight up too powerful

An unkillable CC? Bruh

[late hemlock]

he already has massive cc, 1500 free armor and is a caster for easy shield gating

[midnight horizon]

Plus lazy shieldgate of using Cata Shield and Aegis or Fast Deflection and Aegis

[near vortex]

1500 free armor means he can max out Bulwark btw

[midnight horizon]

And Hyperlazy shield gating with an addition of Omamori

Vauban is unkillable already hahahahah

Cc + Hyperlazy shield gating?

You got an active unkillable frame here

[severe bough]

He also makes boom

[midnight horizon]

I know the boom... But I subsume it for omamori

Ay don't be like that, we all know that 3 is his weakest skill out of the four hahahah

[brisk estuary]

WF build YouTubers saying a build requires no setup, then you look inside and they have

Subsumed Roar
Fully speced companions
5 Tauforged archon shards
Maxed endgame mods

[severe bough]

Its probably the best now for trash clear

[midnight horizon]

I wouldn't say best but it is good for trash clear

Though I have both config that has those tho

A with Omamori, B with Nourish and C without any Subsume

[severe bough]

didnt mean overall just for him

[midnight horizon]

Oh wiait...i subsume his 1 for Smite just for the memes on C

[midnight horizon]

Fajr

[severe bough]

It basically comes down to cast nourish spam 2 3 4 the hole time

Probably the most fun frame ive played this year

After slamistar lavos

[midnight horizon]

His 3 acts as ability damage for sure.... So nourish won't work on it... Unless 3 became a Weapon so yea

[midnight horizon]

I am loving Hydroid too... His 1 is so powerful

I need to sleep... It's 1 39 in the morning here

I still have class

Cya tennos!

[severe bough]

2/3 scale anyways only fletched/bastille get affected by nourish to spread viral tho there much factors that increase dmg from fletched or orbital even more thats technically not needed

[severe bough]

Almost forgot he exist bruh

When nekros rework tho

[brisk estuary]

Nekros is such a one trick pony it’s crazy

[late hemlock]

i dont even think one trick is a generally bad thing if the trick is interesting

but channeling desecrate is just..... oof

[brisk estuary]

It’s a good trick yeah

50% chance to reroll drops is pretty good

But damn Nekros is such wasted potential

Imagine if his whole kit was about summons and building up a brigade of specters

[brisk estuary]

I personally would lean more towards Crits,

[surreal willow]

Could someone link the best Yareli Prime build ? 😄

[drowsy perch]

which one is better

[nova swift]

riding or no riding?

[surreal willow]

ridingg

[fierce lark]

right, left is unusable

[nova swift]

currently running 3 armor shards as merulina gets DR from them, this is a lazy tank build (so not for level cap). Do note that your pet procs arcanes for you atm when you are riding merulina so your heavy weapon kinda matters

[fierce lark]

right is only usable vs infested tbf

[nova swift]

weapon is a sporelacer build for crit, with the firerate youll get from furax + pet your mag becomes burst size and reload the time between bursts

other really good weapon is the akarius prime, you would run pistoleer instead of velocity/avenger then

[fierce lark]

merulina guardian builds need pistoleer if you have access to it

maybe less so on battery weapons but any other secondary you run the risk of running out of ammo

[surreal willow]

thanks!

[nova swift]

lvl 2 combat discipline because the hit does 0 damage to you yet still procs avenger, and merulina gets damaged so you can heal it for merulina guardian to get the 200% fire rate and reload buff for the pax charge sporelacer

[velvet pulsar]

What's a better riven for kuva grattler:

1. Toxin + cold
2. FR + MS + DMG

The disposition is low BTW

It only gets 30% FR & MS & 55% DMG

Meanwhile 125% each toxin & cold

[near crater]

Any shards recommendations for Nekros Prime?

[fierce lark]

dual stat elementals max at 114% with a negative, are you sure you're not looking at regular grattler?

[velvet pulsar]

U right
80-80

[fierce lark]

i probably wouldn't take a tox riven anyway, you want primed tox mod

[velvet pulsar]

I probably won't

The primed toxin mod won't budge me to mess up my viral heat weighting

[fierce lark]

if you dont have it then meh

archgun rivens are weird, you rly just want a generically good 3 stat riven, there's not a lot of good archgun mods lol

[velvet pulsar]

I have primed venomous clip but I won't use it unless I wanna make a corrosive build

[astral tinsel]

2 arcanes though

[coral crest]

2 casting speed shards (duh)

[near crater]

Noted. Anything else?

[astral tinsel]

Makes something like base damage less appealing

[near crater]

Blue energy Tau useful or not?

[velvet pulsar]

Unless none of the 2 have base dmg

Which is highly likely for an archgun IYKYK

[fierce lark]

for much the same reason viral heat/elec rifle builds still use primed cryo rounds, you would still want to use primed venomous clip

not like the grattler is a status beam

[near crater]

I do have primed flow for both builds (one for solo, one for pub loot)

[velvet pulsar]

True

Dang the new riven is a different polarity

This is gonna rust in inventory for a while

[sly island]

Alr thx btw

[fierce lark]

pretend venomous clip is primed and yeah

heat progenitor can help fix weighting

crit chance/fire rate would be premium stats on a riven

[velvet pulsar]

So many archgun riven but still no larkspur

[novel bear]

I would go with purple equilibrium over blue energy

[fierce lark]

blue energy is what you use when you have 30 useless blue shards and want to save flow slot on a frame you aren't investing super hard in

[barren viper]

is this a good riven guys

[fierce lark]

good for exposure/crescendo slam, doesn't work with afflictions

[barren viper]

should i keep rolling?

[steep oasis]

is there a build for garuda prime talons that does not rely on combo count?

[late hemlock]

You wanna do heavy spam?

[steep oasis]

i'm building a ranged garuda so i'll need a talons build mostly to boost her 4's damage

[nova swift]

her talons dont buff her 4 damage

[steep oasis]

i thougth that some mods like elementalist do

[late hemlock]

If you use garuda as a caster you really dont need to ever touch the melee button tbf

Anyways dont use her 4 to do damage

The 4 is used to boost damage of other things

[steep oasis]

ok ty

[nova swift]

on the upside, her 4 gets the same damage boosts as your 1 does

arcane arachne/nourish buffs both

[steep oasis]

yah, i was alr thinking on using nourish

[late hemlock]

Highly recommend nourish as it also buffs energy restore of 3

Arachne is overkill and annoying to use imo but you do you

[undone dust]

yeah if you manage vig swap timing that's just significantly easier to use

[whole kindle]

If I put a Riven mod on a gun, does it get bound to that gun or can I take it off and put it on another like any other mod

(Also if anyone could send me a good Wukong Prime build, it'd be much appreciated)

[late hemlock]

Can take it off

[whole kindle]

Ty

Also x2 since pretty much everyone trashes on Overframe to find builds, are there any actual sites or resources to find good ones aside from asking here and on the subreddit?

[brittle sleet]

The reason people trash on Overframe is because anyone can post builds there, so of course the average build you find there is trash. Figuring out from people (and eventually your own intuition) which posters on there are good, e.g. ninjase, is what you wanna do

[peak narwhal]

Even got to take that with a grain of salt. A lot of differing opinions on good builds. Some are also just outdated

[indigo oriole]

What's better

Also what do u need in as a negative in a Magistar riven

[pearl dune]

uhh just check.. Is Catchmoon(Secondary) good? think about build it

[mighty flare]

its the superior variant over primary, but basically a weaker lex incarnon

[pearl dune]

ah

[sinful hatch]

For solo ETA ect, where u cant self revive easily even with last gasp. is something like Djinn + Sacrifice the go to, or it still still Panzer, or even Vasca with Transfusion.

[fierce lark]

panzer with martyr symbiosis, tek assault, loyal companion and either momentous bond or panzer deevolution

is one option

[nova swift]

its alright, good crit weapon and good with pax seeker because its really easy to headshot with the plasmor waves. Not as good as some room clearers though

[lofty epoch]

Does anyone have an actually good build for excalibur umbra or excalibur that doesn't require Helminth

[pearl dune]

ah

[sinful hatch]

I suppose you really can't beat the classic

[nova swift]

@pearl dune I did this using catchmoon and secondary irradiate

not as great in game though with irradiate, doesnt work against eximus

[pearl dune]

oh

[nova swift]

you could slap blast on it though, would probably work about as well. The seeker projectiles/catchmoon projectile both scale really well with galvanized shot

[pearl dune]

huh I thought Magnetic work well since it affect overguard

[nova swift]

it does yea, you could say blast + secondary fortifier or magnetic + heat and cascadia flare

[viral totem]

So I was getting a kuva weapon and I kinda got a magnetic element and I need toxin or corrosive his there anyway to change it?

[fierce lark]

magnetic is best on most of them anyways, and corrosive isn't an option

but yes, you need to max rank it to 40 and then you can get an elemental vice from eleanor in hollvania

costs 60k standing or they drop rarely from temporal archimedea

[brittle sleet]

Most Excalibur builds can be used without their given subsumes just fine, but you will suffer a loss in practical DPS or survivability because there's generally no reason to keep his 2 whatsoever, so you're taking those builds and replacing something with nothing

[viral totem]

Ohhhhh I see but I'm making hydroid so I need the corrosive for his buff because I used him and he gave me magnetic

[lofty epoch]

I dont have heminth proper yet :/ thats why i was asking

[fierce lark]

which gun is it?

[viral totem]

Kuva sobek

[fierce lark]

also im pretty sure hydroid has his own corrosive buff, you don't need to mod corrosive onto your gun

[viral totem]

He does with plunder I think actually

[fierce lark]

the way it's worded is a little weird, it sounds like he's buffing your own corrosive damage, but no, he just adds whatever the % is as corrosive damage to his abilities/weapons

like adding a separate corrosive mod, similar to how saryn's 1 augment works

[brittle sleet]

Early game modding pre-Helminth will be a lot of health-tanking and focusing on having good AoE guns modded to abuse elemental weaknesses rather than general DPS formulas because of your lacking resources so don't worry too much

[viral totem]

So it's not a buff to corrosive directly it's just a added status rather then me needing corrosive he just adds it?

[fierce lark]

yeah

i thought the same too at first, it's worded awkwardly

[viral totem]

Oh ok so I should keep magnetic then to help with shield and just keep plunder up?

[lofty epoch]

I mean i just ran Excal Umbra through a 1999 techrot exterminate and my current exalted blade build was doing 200,000 roughly on crits......

[fierce lark]

magnetic is good for general use, all factions have eximus with overguard and it doesn't disrupt mod combinations

[brittle sleet]

Kind of impressed you speedran to 1999 before getting enough Entrati standing for Helminth ngl

[viral totem]

I see then I'll keep it for the eximus units ty for the advice!

[lofty epoch]

I'm horrible at gaining standing lol

[viral totem]

The amount of mother tokens I have from old Aya farms....

[fierce lark]

i was pretty far in before getting helminth myself ngl, open world content is an acquired taste and cambion drift in particular kinda sucks

[brittle sleet]

Do non-SP max level bounty with Mother like 3 times total and I think you get enough tokens to get to rank 3 with the Entratis though

[lofty epoch]

Yeah. My decent Caliban Build struggles there and he's built for crowd control

[fierce lark]

razor mortar clears

[lofty epoch]

Dont have that mod ^^

[fierce lark]

you should get it, caliban is half a warframe without it lmao

there are some frames that are reliant on augments for most of their power, and there is an unreasonably massive power budget in razor mortar

[lofty epoch]

I'm tryin I just keep getting distracted. I want a good Caliban Build and Excal Umbra build since they're my favs with Valkyr a close 3rd

[nova swift]

check agall on youtube, hes a one trick melee only excal main

[fierce lark]

you can pick it up off of warframe.market for like 10p, fairly small price to make caliban 1button clear every room he enters

[nova swift]

has fun builds like afflictions slash dash, or a funky universal fallout radiation/electric exalted blade

[lofty epoch]

I saw an Invis build

[fierce lark]

it might actually be the single strongest augment in the game lol, i can't say that with certainty because i haven't played every single frame but yeah, that augment coming out turned him from pretty mediocre into an insane high mobility room nuke

[lofty epoch]

I will check that out

[fierce lark]

also since it’s purely ability nuke you can run him with shade and not break shade stealth

and then duplex from spamming 1s which refund themselves will throw shades all over the map priming random shit with tazicor lol

[undone dust]

are elec ability damage shards still bugged with his aug

[fierce lark]

uncertain

i don’t think they do and i think it’s intentional

because they’re considered weapon damage

[main silo]

for the evo 2 on the burston incarnon , i have flat dmg increase and either mult shot on last burst or punch through ( only if i have 450 armour ) none of the frames i use atm have anything close to that armour rating should i just choose the MS one?

[fierce lark]

they get buffed by nourish etc

[fierce lark]

the ms one is on overshield right

[main silo]

nah its just on last burst of the mag

[fierce lark]

oh lol

[lofty epoch]

TY u for the warframe market tip. Just found one

[fierce lark]

ehhhh it’ll almost never play in practice so i wouldn’t bother switching

you might actually play a frame with armor one day (or get armor from a friendly) and be losing out on free pt

because you forgot to switch back

[main silo]

ahh ok

i havent chose one yet

so was just deciding

[fierce lark]

im psure oberon’s hallowed ground gives allies armor

[main silo]

its +2 PT or 5base MS on last burst

[fierce lark]

oh no it’s his 3 that gives armor to allies

pt with armor is usually the default

[main silo]

okies ty 🙂

[fierce lark]

non acuity builds rarely see the last burst before Incarnon form, and acuity builds can’t use ms

[lofty epoch]

Crap my game just crashed

[main silo]

yeah i didnt like the idea of the acuity builds i saw tbh

but alllll the builds seem to use scope which also sounds like it could be irratating?

[fierce lark]

depends how you play

[main silo]

like ads for 12 seconds seems like a long time

[fierce lark]

Incarnon form has like no zoom, and i tend to aim while shooting most of the time regardless so gscope is perfect

[main silo]

ahh ok

[fierce lark]

huh?

[main silo]

scope says u need to be aiming for 12 seconds?

[fierce lark]

it’s on any headshot kill you gain crit chance while aiming, the buff lasts 12 seconds

[main silo]

oh ffs

lol sorry

[undone dust]

twin it aint like box breathing from destiny
you dont gotta activate the buff by aiming in and waiting

[main silo]

yeah i thought u had to be aiming for 12 seconds lol

[fierce lark]

galv scope is weird though cause it’s not like other galv mods, getting kills doesn’t refresh the buff, instead each stack of the buff has its own timer

if you tend to aim while shooting enemies and can aim at heads, galv crit mods are perfect

[main silo]

yeah im used to using my shotgun 😄 which is a bit less surgical tbh, but i can ping heads with this

ill get the hang of it 🙂

[fierce lark]

still waiting for galvanized laser

[main silo]

i do aim quite often tho, i was just freaking out with the whole 12 seconds things

[fierce lark]

or galvanized sight

nah

you don’t even have to get the headshots while aiming to trigger the buff lol

just the buff only applies while aiming

[main silo]

ahh ok 🙂

[karmic badger]

Galvanized ammo drum! Ammo efficiency on kill, universal infinite ammo!

[primal bane]

Quick question, I’m doing this build for the Ignis wraith but would galvanized aptitude be better than vile acceleration?

[karmic badger]

With both serration and merciless, you don't need more base damage

[primal bane]

So I should use vile acceleration? Even tho it brings down my damage by 15%?

[deep grotto]

Too many sources of base damage is just diminishing returns
You already have plenty

[karmic badger]

Yeah pretty much, honestly swapping serration for galvanized aptitude would be better, caveat on you having reliable priming like a hound or sentinel

[pastel agate]

How big of a performance difference is there between normal and prime versions of guns? Is it like with the warframes where it’s a minimal stat increase

I’m mostly a melee user so I don’t really actively use guns unless I actually need to hit ranged

[primal bane]

My sentinel doesn’t exactly prime it just kinda kills the entire room at once, sometimes when I don’t want it to lol

[deep grotto]

Most prime weapons are arguably better than their base versions

[pastel agate]

I mean I would assume they’re generally stronger, but by how much?

[deep grotto]

You don’t use the base version unless you have a riven with a godroll
And most people don’t use rivens

[pastel agate]

Huh, alright

Eh whatever I’ll just level up base versions for mastery exp then try to get prime ones whenever I reach the rank required to use them

[karmic badger]

The only prime with a major difference i can remember is ironically a melee, Glaive prime has guranteed slash procs on explosion, unlike its regular version

In terms of feels? The Akkarius prime is burst fire unlike its base version which is full auto

[pastel agate]

Oh, that’s kinda interesting even though I don’t have it

I got lucky and got a normal akarius blueprint drop but man I hate when I use it too close and get slowed down by the explosion knockback lol

[tawdry trail]

some primes have extra unique traits

[karmic badger]

Technically the Soma prime has double the magazine capacity

[tawdry trail]

new kestrel prime gets way more bounces on throws

[karmic badger]

And gets a unique mod

[tawdry trail]

not a prime but the kuva ogris loses the charge fire mechanic of the normal ogris

[pastel agate]

Wow, guess it’s a pretty case by case thing then

I’d probably just try to see what base weapons I really like then consider getting prime blueprints

[tawdry trail]

Tiberon is a burst rifle, Tiberon prime can be a burst, automatic, or semiautomatic rifle

[tawdry trail]

good thinking

[karmic badger]

The burston prime has a different reload animation

[pastel agate]

Admittedly I’m way more reliant on melee related things than guns but having one for whenever I just need to shoot things is probably important lol

[karmic badger]

The daikyu prime gets additional crit on headshots

[pastel agate]

Imma be real I do not pay attention to if I land head shots or not lmao

What melee weapons are good for Kullevro? He’s the one melee frame I use that’s more reliant on weapons than abilities (compared to atlas and Valkry at least) but idk what can easily work with him cause there’s so many options out there

[karmic badger]

Funnily enough kullervo was (and some people still think) the sniper frame

[pastel agate]

Oh right

Cause of that one ability that connects the damage from one enemy to all other enemies around them, then you use headshot damage to basically get 30 headshot kills at once?

[karmic badger]

Pretty much

[pastel agate]

That sounds pretty fun, but I really don’t trust my ability to use a sniper rifle with control sticks lol

[karmic badger]

Then cyte came out and now any sniper worth its salt needs an aoe gimmick somewhere

[fierce lark]

with very few exceptions (and those exceptions are usually riven related), prime weapons are anywhere from moderately better to “the base version is unusable by comparison”

there’s no reason to ever use a base variant if a prime exists unless it’s knell with a riven or something along those lines

[pastel agate]

That’s about what I expected tbh. Gotta make them worth grinding for

[karmic badger]

Technically the alternox prime is still abysmal garbage lamo

[pastel agate]

I just use base versions to get a feel for how the weapon works then decide if I’d wanna get a prime version of it

[fierce lark]

prime weapons are mainly base stat increases, but base stats are a big deal because they exponentially scale with mods

especially crit/status, the silva & aegis prime has over 3x the base damage, 5x the crit chance (5% is unusable, 25% is good), more crit damage and more status chance vs its base variant, the two weapons aren’t even on the same planet in terms of power level

[pastel agate]

Geez, that is a huge difference in numbers

[fierce lark]

the only thing it’s missing out on is 25% slower attack speed, but compared to everything else that’s irrelevant

[pastel agate]

Oh wait that weapons is the prime version of that fire sword and shield I really liked when I started

[fierce lark]

that’s one example and probably one of the more extreme ones, but yeah

base weapons that have a prime variant, you should only invest in the prime

[pastel agate]

I mean, there’s a lot of ways to just get more attack speed anyway right?

With how I understand this game, there’s a build or mod for literally anything

[fierce lark]

there’s maybe a few weapons that have side variants which are superior to the prime, the only one i can think of is the dex sybaris incarnon

and it’s relatively minor, both are strong

[pastel agate]

Yeah there’s just like so many options and aspects to consider lol

But I guess the core takeaway message is

Prime is better

[karmic badger]

Yeah, but nowadays the trend is to give primes minor boosts and a gimmick, over straight upgrades

See the kestrel primes 8 bounces and the daikyu's headshot bonus. Or even the dual zorens aerial mobility buff

[tawdry trail]

Not a weapon but I found out today gyre prime comes with ZERO extra polarities when that used to be a huge deal for prime frames

[karmic badger]

That explains why she felt tighter...

[fierce lark]

you're leaving out some details

it's a pretty substantial straight upgrade in addition to extra bounces

daikyu is a little less higher stats, but still enough to avg about 2x more damage per shot, while also gaining the other benefits the prime gets over base

[undone dust]

such a fat glow up

[covert birch]

Are these worth keeping? Thinking about putting them on the load out I use for my Uriel frame

[sudden finch]

Pretty sure he meant build not gameplay

[midnight horizon]

hey yall, i’m working on a koumei build that’s focusing on her 1 ability and status procs. anyone have any arcades aside from arcane impetus i could try out? also the best i can get is 190% for her range, i know 200% is optimal, is it worth trying to find a way to get to 200% exactly or am i close enough? any help is much appreciated 🙂

[kind jackal]

whats the subsumed 1st ability?

[storm heart]

The first skill I am using is a Kullervo skill

[kind jackal]

ahhh#

[storm heart]

If you can, it's best to use tauforged crystals

[storm heart]

Ok?

[fierce lark]

honestly, koumei doesn't benefit hugely off of anything other than range. 5 mods can go towards omakuji's fortune, vigi vigor, fast deflection, cata shields and rolling guard

last 3 are semi flexible but you definitely want some amount of range, i have overextended, primed flow & archon continuity

aura can be whatever, brief respite will let you actively shield gate on top of passive gating without an augur mod, corrosive projection for more damage to armor, w/e you want

exilus PSF if you have it, cunning drift otherwise

arcanes impetus + aegis, aegis is too good for shield gate setups and impetus is always at max value

[fierce lark]

why fleeting expertise?

[midnight horizon]

tyty!

[fierce lark]

if you want to subsume a buff over 1 or 4 you can run stretch or something instead of overextended and umbral/transient over rolling guard

get over 200% strength after impetus stacks

you can run a wall latch/aimglide mod in the exilus if you want to help with decree challenges also

[storm heart]

Try to see how much energy it has, without that it consumes a lot of energy and the build is useless. It has to be kept at 100% efficiency

All skills have no duration except for skill 2

[fierce lark]

the energy drain on his 4 scales with duration

[undone dust]

running purples without pflow is definitely a choice

[fierce lark]

fleeting is neutral energy on 4

[undone dust]

just run streamline and then seismic on your companion, ez

the energy issue would definitely be solved if you had more than 195 energy

[obtuse socket]

Ive been testing this build to see if it works, done well so far

[stray depot]

STONKS BABY

[fierce lark]

honestly i mostly asked at first because i thought it was valkyr lol

but yeah wukong same concept, fleeting probably has lower net energy gain than streamline, and pflow is needed anyway to make the shards shard

[stray depot]

what do we think boys and girls and everyone inbetween

keep or cycle again

[fierce lark]

i think that’s unusable

elec combines with Incarnon form fireballs and turns them into radiation

it’s definitely not good

would reroll

+slash is also awful, shuffles weighting away from the statuses you actually want

[drowsy pelican]

Did some bs

[drowsy pelican]

Give it to me

[stray depot]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-devil-may-cry-no-way-youve-got-your-own-gif-22744194

[fierce lark]

🦆

[knotty oyster]

is this a good starter build for wukong primes staff?

[storm heart]

@knotty oyster

[fierce lark]

do you have focus schools yet?

[knotty oyster]

im ngl i have a total of 2 mods for that iron staff prime from that

[knotty oyster]

im pretty sure i picked madurai as the one i wanted to do when i unlocked it

tbh im not rlly sure how to start any of the other ones

once i do which one should i do?

[fierce lark]

i dont remember either tbh, but Naramon's starting node causes your combo counter to decay in intervals rather than all at once

[knotty oyster]

so that would be good for wukong im guessing?

[fierce lark]

so you can run the combo-based mods Blood Rush & Weeping Wounds without having to run Drifting Contact

[knotty oyster]

since he prob needs combo stuff

[fierce lark]

it's good for any melee frame yeah

[knotty oyster]

ohhhh ok ok

wait fr? i might have to work on it more for my valkyr asw

[fierce lark]

to my knowledge, every exalted melee frame mainly runs a 12x combo build, and every pseudo-exalted (khora gara atlas etc) are forced to run combo builds

so yeah naramon is super useful to have on hand

it's not necessary, there are alternatives like dexterity arcanes and using a mod slot for drifting contact

but naramon is foolproof, only losing 5 combo per 5 seconds at max rank is as good as you can ask for

[knotty oyster]

ok ok ill try getting naramon stuff started

[fierce lark]

and that focus school has other melee bonuses too, like a crit buff if you do a finisher from operator, or double combo generation if you melee slam while in operator

[knotty oyster]

cuz that would be nice esp since i have 2 pretty good melee frames

[fierce lark]

in any case you can run this in the meanwhile, drifting contact is temporary until you have naramon, it should be swapped for weeping wounds, but at least until then it's 0 forma

assuming you don't have CO, blood rush or vicious frost, you can run pressure point/organ shatter/north wind instead

though i would strongly recommend getting the former two at some point, they're used pretty wide spread in endgame melee builds

berserker fury is also worth getting but you can run quickening or normal fury in the meantime

[knotty oyster]

out of those id need condition overload, vicious frost, and beserker fury

[fierce lark]

vicious frost is relatively unimportant, no endgame melee build runs it really

[knotty oyster]

and i dont have weeping wounds

[fierce lark]

weeping wounds is from deimos bounties iirc, same as blood rush

[knotty oyster]

i can prob get condition overload rn w plat

[fierce lark]

condition overload randomly drops from i think deimos infested, and yeah any of them you can buy with plat

[knotty oyster]

i have blood rush

luckily

[fierce lark]

vicious frost is a 10% drop from low level spy missions, if you get all 3 vaults without any alarms

[drowsy pelican]

I think the only mods I’ve ever bought were the corrupted ones

[knotty oyster]

also i will upgrade the mods i just dont have credits lmao

[fierce lark]

get drifting contact to max at least so you have the combo duration

[knotty oyster]

i have it maxed now

i had enough credits to max that and vicious frost

[fierce lark]

how far are you in the main questline?

[knotty oyster]

im currently doing the hex quest

why?

or well i plan on doing it soon

[fierce lark]

curious how close you were to being able to farm cavia for melee influence

[knotty oyster]

i been hearing a lot of ppl talk abt it when it comes to melee builds

is it really that good?

also i should be able to have the helminth thing by tmr

cuz im about to be rank 3

[fierce lark]

it really is that good, yeah

[karmic badger]

Melee influence solves the biggest problem of melee, a lack of range

[fierce lark]

if you go the influence route iron staff is pretty much running the bog standard light influence build

berserker fury flexible for smite or whatever else you wanna stick there, if you run arcane strike on the frame for attack speed

[jade horizon]

does anyone know if they fixed the bug where tennokai does kinda a "melee inherit" thing

[fierce lark]

nope

and im not even sure if it's a bug tbh

[fierce lark]

(i'm assuming you're referring to exalted tennokai ripping buffs from your equipped melee)

[chrome coral]

Does anyone have a half viable hydroid build? Ive asked like 80 people on discord, in game, YouTube, I even went to overframe. All of the builds just suck at keeping him alive. Unless it’s just another frame that’s on the waiting list for a rework, I need clarity 😔

[jovial snow]

Hi, I have a question. I have a Dread riven, what stats should I look for?

[gleaming orchid]

Can anyone help me out? This is still doing realy low damage (below 3k per shot)

Akvasto prime

[fierce lark]

cc cd ms dmg fr tox

[fierce lark]

augur pact, cannonade and hornet strike are all doing the same thing (adding base damage)

blast is only for pure aoe, and you're already getting aoe from cannonade's punch through. you should drop augur pact and deep freeze for creeping bullseye & magnetic might/target cracker

[plain crown]

guys if im using gauss who spams the run ability, does that mean that arcane concentration would be better than molt efficiency for ability duration

[fierce lark]

that is a generally true statement, concentration is in nearly all cases better

[plain crown]

ayyy ty

[fierce lark]

the only frame i still run molt eff on is rhino, because im running a weird 225 energy max build with blind rage and i actually just don’t have the energy pool to chain cast

[eager charm]

why would u ever do that to urself

spamming stomp is so much fun

[fierce lark]

buffmaxxing

[vagrant anvil]

Whats the best sword and shield in game rn?
Tenet agendus Silva aegis prime or argo vel?

[eager charm]

agendus absolutely blasts

[fierce lark]

s&a prime probably

[eager charm]

post ur build?

[vagrant anvil]

U got a build for it?

[eager charm]

super basic influence build, absolutely insane damage and the heavy red crit headshots for >10mil

[gleaming orchid]

That is INFINITELY better, thank you so much!
But Im confused, doesn't base damage multiply with elemental damage?

[eager charm]

replace fury for prime pressure + arcane strike on warframe for even more dmg on heavy atk

[vagrant anvil]

Oh I see

[fierce lark]

yes but the different base damage sources all add with each other, if you already have 300% cannonade, the 100% or w/e from rank 5 hornet strike and the 90% from auger pact aren't making a world of difference

same with the elemental, you have 3 elements giving you 90% each, a 4th adding 90% on top is a relative increase of like 25%, not that helpful

instead better to add crits, to further multiply all of those % increases again

[gleaming orchid]

God that makes so much sense thank you

[eager charm]

equil w nourish?

[gleaming orchid]

Finally learning to mod after 3 years ✌️

[eager charm]

here's mine + shards

[fierce lark]

nourish is there purely for the viral buff, though i have considered replace it with shock & shock trooper

[eager charm]

i strongly recommend nourish + high strength + energy nexus

[fierce lark]

this is mainly a "give teammates a massive nourish & roar" build

[eager charm]

your energy is just constant flow

its incredible

[fierce lark]

i press like 2 buttons a minute

[eager charm]

unfortunate

being able to spam stomp makes rhino incredible

anything without overguard in a 40m radius pausing for 15+ seconds makes so many nasty situations free

[fierce lark]

i find stomp more annoying than anything outside of acolytes and bosses

makes enemies' heads not be where they should

[eager charm]

enemies usually flip 180 so you just shoot at their lowest part and hit them in the back of the head

it takes some practice tho yeah

is it parkour velo or movespeed for uriel 1 spin btw?

[fierce lark]

parkour velocity and dodge speed

[eager charm]

GOT IT

caps

[modern yoke]

I freaking LOVE THIS GUN!

[mortal gyro]

guys how much should i ask for this?

[lavish orbit]

The roll are good even if it wouldve be better with a third positive stat, but the weapon isn't that good so not a lot

[mortal gyro]

so maybe 200-250?

[sick ermine]

these mods look good? which one looks better?

the riven is +30% magazine size and +51% firerate. could swap it for Magnetic Strafe, Frigid Blast or Vigilante Armanents.

i talked myself into it anyway haha. Magnetic strafe is just better

[modern yoke]

New Gauss look just dropped 👀

[calm elbow]

Nice

[modern yoke]

Man, Gauss is super easy to Fashion Frame and is SO FUN

His Default Skin is even super nice

Nice

Just need the Miter Barrel now

[lofty verge]

how much would it go for?

[gloomy elm]

any garuda build i can take a look at

[modern yoke]

Ah crap, I need to go to Duviri for an Airachnid look

And I've been recommended to do The New War before that...

[vagrant anvil]

I see its very combo focused but no combo duration?

[fierce lark]

you dont need combo duration if you have naramon/dexterity arcanes

[vagrant anvil]

I dont play naramon

[frosty fjord]

I feel like the idea is to keep the combo with tennokai and just not lose it

[vagrant anvil]

I think I use galvanized reflex as it is a good 20s combo boost ngl

[fierce lark]

reflex is for heavy spam

[vagrant anvil]

It gives 20 combo per kill so idk its good as well

[frosty fjord]

yeah that'll work too sure, but if you can upkeep the meleeing and hit the tennokais the initial combo is kinda pointless

[vagrant anvil]

I will experiment on it

[frosty fjord]

its just +20 initial combo, not actually more combo overall

[fierce lark]

reflex maxes at 5x combo, doesn't come anywhere close to what you get at 12x

it's only for heavy spam builds

[vagrant anvil]

Yea but if u cant upkeep its good alternative

[late hemlock]

Do you have archgun launcher?

Free 15 sec duration

[vagrant anvil]

Wdym

[frosty fjord]

put dexterity arcanes on archgun

[viscid bane]

took me 3 weeks but I've done it

[late hemlock]

Finally you are making a forma

[fierce lark]

im so appointed

[vagrant anvil]

This means I dont have to call the archgun for it right?

[late hemlock]

No

[fierce lark]

whoa

[viscid bane]

yea, youget 15 secextra combo duration for free. Don't have to call archgun at all

[vagrant anvil]

Alr thx
Im not that much invested in all arcanes

[late hemlock]

Those are the most common ones as they drop from acolytes

Should be no issues to max em out

[vagrant anvil]

I have em yea but I didnt memorize these

Too much stuff to know

What about including a riven ?
I got a Agendus riven

Its on a 3 dispo

[modern yoke]

So guys, may I get help with a Miter build?

[karmic prism]

whats a good titania build i can do to run missions fast while i wait for her prime to craft. i still havent farmed gauss for his subsume but i dont wanna invest pretty much anything into base titania cause im gonna subsume her

also does parkour velocity affect flight speed?

[vagrant anvil]

@frosty fjord I used your build just 2 different mods and it slaps
Thanks

[velvet pulsar]

Does enervate stack if u shoot nova's 2?

[sleek marlin]

Hello! i am a returning player from a break of about ~3yrs. im hoping to jump back in to the game for all the new content but im super lost and intimidated on where to start with mods and builds for weapons and frames.
It looks like over the years some mods might have been removed because i remember some of my frames having full mods loadout but now some of the slots are empty.

Is there a place where people share builds that I can copy so i have a starting point to re-learn playing again?

[slim magnet]

Anyone know a decent build for dagath for ETA? Just need her to survive i have my burston incarnon for damage

[fierce lark]

spectral spirit + evade subsume over 1/4, with enough duration you are functionally unkillable

add catalyzing shields + augur mod on top of that to be able to shield gate random aoe or the effervon gas boxes

[fierce lark]

if you go on overframe, Ninjase has a build for most frames and weapons, you can copy those or build around them to your preferences

i should say all frames and most relevant weapons

[slim magnet]

uhh i dont have a lot of that lol. I dont have evade or catalyzing shields but i did put arcane grace and aegis i think along with rolling guard and the augur shield mod

[fierce lark]

you can survive very easily just with spectral spirit, evade just makes it completely brain off

[slim magnet]

ah gotcha gotcha

[fierce lark]

without catashields you would need to run several augur mods and probably also brief respite to get a decently long gate

otherwise there's a window between spirits where you can die

[karmic badger]

Not can, will

[modern yoke]

Any Miter, Ghoulsaw, and Soma Prime builds? 👀

[sleek marlin]

awesome thanks! ill check tthat out

[slim magnet]

this is what i got lol

wait wrong one

[fierce lark]

archon vitality is certainly something

if you own brief respite, it matches the aura polarity

[slim magnet]

i can prob put regular vitality or none at all idk lol

[fierce lark]

i would just put cata shields in that slot, if something lands a hit on you at ETA levels it's probably not making a difference, maybe you get to survive 1 hit and then die the next

[slim magnet]

what would you suggest in place of vitality?

[fierce lark]

for reference (augmented not that good in eta)

45% duration and equilibrium are in archon shards, if you don't have a violet shard it would be good to add equi in place of intensify

or in place of flow, i spam 1 for viral/doom priming & duplex so energy max is good

optional based on playstyle

also the extra energy max gives you at least 15 casts of 1 to shieldgate before 3 comes back up, without any energy pickups

if you aren't subsuming over 4 you can use it to "gate" by itself since it does enough damage to kill and you're invuln during the cast

[fierce lark]

would drop both augur mods for more strength, and run a duration arcane instead of grace

[sick ermine]

which is better?

or are they same same

[fierce lark]

ideally concentration, molt efficiency won't have time to stack if you're getting shot while grave spirit is down

[jovial mirage]

With the changes to vauban I haven't really found that they need that much strength so Umbral Intensify for that slight boost is all you need (Though you might not actually need increased strength, photon strike with the augment might be more than enough, but better safe than sorry, a little more oomph can't hurt), it's a pretty effective build, Arcane Circumvent is super useful for removing Vauban's squishyness, I like to roll into eximus units so they get sucked up by Bastille, that and Arcane Energise solves Vaubans energy needs, still needs one or two forma so I can use the Exilus slot, but otherwise, I'm enjoying how comfy this build feels.

[maiden marten]

If I should take this to #1197322290166251680, please tell me.

But which melee is better for AOE/crowd control/hitting as many people as possible? Nikana Prime, Dakra Prime or Syam? As much as possible, I'm hoping to stick with a light sword or Nikana.

[fierce lark]

iirc pharaoh is the best predasite by far, has viral priming and a +toxin buff as its precepts

it's kind of a budget panzer but it still does stuff, and it's a kubrow so it can benefit from mecha set things

[fierce lark]

this looks better, obviously you want umbral intensify instead of regular if you can afford it, the last mod can be whatever

dagath likes strength and doesn't really need eff so blind rage is a good fit

[slim magnet]

and its okay that her shield is only 50? im so used to seeing bigger numbers for my shields lol

[fierce lark]

overshield cap is 1200 and that doesn't care about your max shields, but also catalyzing shields sets your shield gate timer to 1.33s regardless of how much shield you actually have

[slim magnet]

ah alrighty

i think ill try running it then

[fierce lark]

oh yeah narrow minded is also something you would want but im guessing you dont want to use forma

[vagrant anvil]

What arcanes are good for Valkyr?

I would need a build as well
Preferably not heavy investment

[umbral knoll]

what to improve in this Phantasma Prime build?? I will do arcane for it, Debilitate, but I need to reach SP first.. But could you tell me what's good and bad anyway?

[buoyant patio]

That's pretty much as good as it's gonna get where you are in the game right now.

[boreal sandal]

Do people still run triple umbral valkyr Prime?

[karmic badger]

Nowadays its duambral, intensify and vitality. Since her 4 basically triples her already ludicrous armor

[hollow plover]

what changes would you recommend i do/try to obtain

[late hemlock]

Idk man looks pretty broken to me

On a serious note im you would want some combo duration to upkeep wounds and blood rush, so body count/drifting contact or using the naramon focus school

There is a better alternative but its further in the game

True steel becomes rather redundant with a built up blood rush so id put reach there

Later on you want to aim for condition overload and the galvanized mods though im not sure if you got that far

[hollow plover]

im using the naramon combo maxed out

[astral tinsel]

Level up elementals, galvanized steel over organ shatter, berserker / primed fury / quickening over fury, condition overload over pressure point

[hollow plover]

WHICH elements should i prioritize?

[late hemlock]

For now viral so toxin + cold thats fine

You will want all of them at max though its not a big ask with them being rank 5 mods

Id probably go with your first variant of heat over true steel since you can consistently maintain 12x combo with naramon

Unless you just put reach there

[keen beacon]

hi how do you build mesa saw some build shorts with her having negative range wont that affect the ult range?

[karmic badger]

Her regulators have a fixed range of 50m, the range stat only changes the initial size of her targeting ring

[keen beacon]

so like it doesnt affect range but vision?

[karmic badger]

The range stat does also affect how close you have to be to disarm enemies with shooting gallery

[karmic badger]

Pretty much

[keen beacon]

thanks I really took a wonder why almost all the builds ive seen have negative range

[karmic badger]

Frankly if range did affect her regulators, 175% would probably be the defacto best setup

You'd clear entire arenas in perita with that range

[velvet pulsar]

Sniper

[karmic badger]

Rifle

[keen beacon]

lol that would be op nuking capabilites more like a fulyl automatic sniper rifle

[velvet pulsar]

We already have one

[keen beacon]

who?

[velvet pulsar]

Not who

Toxocyst

[keen beacon]

i forgot about that incarnon form

[velvet pulsar]

Turns out, the incarnon form has 1024m hitscan range without any damage falloff

This is the highest hitscan range in the game.

Only old warframe used to have 1000m hitscan range which was nerfed to 300m for some reason (they probably said performance)

Snipers and archguns still have 400-600m range

[keen beacon]

wait I thought toxocyst was projectile I didnt know it was hit scan

[velvet pulsar]

It's hitscan in both forms

[keen beacon]

the more I know

[velvet pulsar]

Being hitscan also means it doesn't have multiplicative gunCO

[keen beacon]

welp I gues i know what im gonna forma tommorow

can I copy your build for the tox?

do I go full crit or status of both?

[velvet pulsar]

Let's start with the easiest answer

It'll be extremely difficult for u to copy my build

Lemme show it

UNROLLED

That riven has entirely changed the build.

Normally you'd run something like deadhead

Can also run outburst if having that kind of setup

[keen beacon]

welp I guess im just gonna substistute it with a base damage mod

[velvet pulsar]

Cold

[keen beacon]

thanks

[velvet pulsar]

People like to go raw crit on it but I prefer a hybrid setup

[keen beacon]

ill try that for a more in general use

[nova swift]

Is there a resource somewhere that specifies how decree buffs are applied? Specifically the +damage while moving and +damage on cold procs. Im wondering if these apply to "weapon damage" abilities for koumei

[novel bear]

Decrees are mostly universal weapon bonuses

So yes

[velvet pulsar]

They do (by any chance u watched Moug's video?)

Her decrees affect her 1.

The Decrees also carry on to your Amp's stats.

[nova swift]

No, just started on my koumei chapter of my warframe documentation.

[velvet pulsar]

You are almost near to be a legend.

Unless u also make spreadsheets, in that case u r a legend.

[nova swift]

mostly links to underframe, as its most of the time better then my visual basic skills

[nova swift]

Yea I did see this in a video, apparently at level cap you are better off shooting altfire amp glaives then using your warframe to prevent the defence from instantly popping ;D

Oh yea the moug video uses null star, that seems really good if it scales with all your decrees. Even as a hybrid build with hotshot or as a lazy tank by stacking 3 sources of DR and heaps of armor

[queen sandal]

still waiting to post the nezha guide cause i want more information from someone that plays him

[modern vale]

Nezha mains might be some of the rarest players out there. I've only seen one in all my playthroughs, and I've seen almost every Warframe more than twice, lol.

[queen sandal]

[nova swift]

he has really nice damage though right? Also one of the rare cases of damage redirection, which makes overguard get benefits from warding halo

[sharp flame]

what mod build should hildryn prime have if Im gonna go for like a balefire centered playstyle?

[nova swift]

tons of str, range and some shields

[sharp flame]

An F ton of str?

[nova swift]

either a hound with link redirection and guardian so you get shields and it can prime for you, or a raksa kubrow with protect so it can keep your shields topped off even at high level

[drowsy perch]

the seller is selling for 200p is it fair?

[sharp flame]

Sorry wdym by prime? Im not that familiar with the term. Also what is the difference between the hou d and raksa kubrow cause from my understanding they both keep your shield up. Besides priming thats how I understand it

[midnight horizon]

If it has electricity on it (as I've heard from many)

[midnight horizon]

Prime means (other than the variants of weapons and warframe) to inflict status (elemental) on other enemies

[drowsy perch]

so its buns for 200p?

[midnight horizon]

In a sense... Idk... But with the lack of elemental, yeah

Better ask an expert hahaha

[sharp flame]

Can you also answer my other question on the difference of companion for Hildryn?

[drowsy perch]

also if i buy it, it has already been rerolled 50 times when i myself reroll it will the reroll price be big

[midnight horizon]

Hmm the Hound and everything?

[midnight horizon]

Probably, but mine stuck at 3500 kuvas

[sharp flame]

Yeah cause from my understanding they both provide shield source for Hildryn from how the guy explained it

[midnight horizon]

I only need 3500 kivas to reroll

[drowsy perch]

aight rerolling doesnt reset the level right?

[midnight horizon]

Level? You put Endo on it?

[drowsy perch]

im planning to buy it and reroll it, dk if the level of the mod resets or what

[midnight horizon]

I think in general terms there are a companion Mod that helps you recharge your Shield

Hildryn needs Shields, and she needs faster healing shields

With the companion (as the guy mentioned) with that shield recharge mod, it's a big help for Hildryn

[midnight horizon]

I don't get it, what do you mean resetting of levels

[sharp flame]

I see. Thanks

[midnight horizon]

It's my own knowledge of it... Don't really take it at heart yet, there are many experts in the game so ask them when you have a chance. Good luck tenno

[drowsy perch]

his mod is maxed, if i reroll will it affect the level of it?

like reroll the elements

[midnight horizon]

Ah then idk

Bc ranked or not, it doesn't matter... The price will stay the same, so better not re endo it bc it doesn't matter

If it did, then don't mind it

If it doesn't, then good

Re roll it, and brace the result, that's how we learn haha

[novel bear]

No

[midnight horizon]

There you go

[drowsy perch]

peak, thanks both

[nova swift]

Ah so, any mechanical companion can use guardian, which refills your shields when they go down. While the raksa kubrow spams the protect ability which refills your shields even if they are still up. Priming is when you apply status effects like viral and corrosive so the enemy takes more damage and has reduced armor. Its so you do more damage

[midnight horizon]

Guardian areonly available for Sentinels and Mechanical Comps right? Just reconfirming

[sharp flame]

Thanks!

[nova swift]

Yea sentinels hounds and moa's

[midnight horizon]

Sweet, thanks

[late hemlock]

basically use raksa with hildryn

and guardian for shields with any other frame

[nova swift]

Yea with guardian it can be a bit nerve wracking (especially with toxin procs) while raksa keeps your overshields up so you are toxic immune

raksa for safety, hound for more damage (like you need more damage aha)

[late hemlock]

if you run out of shields with hildryn something went wrong, so guardian is pretty useless on her

[sharp flame]

I see. Guess Im going with Raksa. I like comfort and consistent damage so this is very insightful

[late hemlock]

raksa is also doing pretty good damage by itself if you build for the claws tbf

since you never use your primary you can just make it a claw stat stick

doubt its going to get to attack much since hildryn obliterates everything on the map though

[jovial mirage]

Needs another forma for the exlius slot, but I think overall this is a pretty good Nekros build, don't feel squishy in the slightest, Arcane Circumvent is my new favourite arcane.

Not really sure if he needs Molt Augmented either really since he's already at 100% armour strip with terrify, it helps with nourish and Shadows of the Dead but I guess I could put something else in?

[late hemlock]

Blessing maybe since you seem to be trying to health tank?

Though honestly you might be overinvesting in survivability as is

[jovial mirage]

Yeah blessing might be a good idea and yeah in most cases it's not really needed since I rarely go to level cap, but Nekros on the whole really doesn't need much investment in strength beyond a certain point since his kit is sort of mediocre or relies on the strength of enemies and I don't really need range or more duration, so I thought might as well put it into surviving for those "just in case" scenarios.

[drowsy pelican]

Okina incarnon is next week, correct?

[jovial mirage]

Correct

[nocturne heron]

should i subsume cyte first or mirage? (cyte for harrow mirage for kullervo)

[subtle pivot]

anyone got a pic of what Stats I should aim for the Torid Riven? This is what I have atm

[late hemlock]

Whatever you plan to play first? Its just a 23h cooldown

[nocturne heron]

HMMHMM i mean i dont have a good zaw yet soo ig cyte then
He seems like a good warframe tho BUT i rlly dont wanna build another one atm

[gleaming oasis]

I got some kuva weapons and a nataruk that I would like to get build for if anyone is knowledgeable in those areas

[terse burrow]

Is there any way to increase the blast radius with the ogres besides firestorm?

[mossy lake]

yoo can someone share me magistar slam build pretty please

[gleaming oasis]

no there is not as far as I can see

[midnight horizon]

Fck I still need to get Dread Incarnon......

[gleaming oasis]

first Chakkhurr draft. seems good. anything I'm missing?

[ripe dove]

How will I know when my trumna is ready to release the blast thing?

[midnight horizon]

There should be an indicator in front of you

[drifting parrot]

Need build for hate with incarnon and need build for xoris please?

[novel bear]

Light attack or heavy spam for hate?

And do you have burning hate?

[nova swift]

A glass of wine with that excellent taste you have there

[drifting parrot]

Erm idk tbh both probably and burning hate is.... a mod?

[gleaming oasis]

trying it out in the practice range isnt doing much as i thought but thats probably due to e not having aptitude and maxed out cryo. even on zephyr

[gleaming oasis]

its the unique/augment mod for the hate that was in the stalker nightwave

[nova swift]

what you can do with its firerate and headshot bonus is run that one mod that gives slash procs on impact procs

as the chakkhurr has guaranteed impact procs on direct hits and slow fire rate

[drifting parrot]

Uh then no I dont have can I get it still?

[nova swift]

if you want it to do a ton of damage even maybe run acuity on the chakkhurr, painful for body shots though

[novel bear]

You can buy it from warframe market, but it’s expensive
It’s ok if you don’t have it though

[gleaming oasis]

i dont think so and its mod sells for 100+ plat on the market i think ill check

[cloud shoal]

[novel bear]

It will come back eventually through nightwave

[drifting parrot]

Uh........i-.. ima switch player trading plat would take forever

[gleaming oasis]

never mind its averaging 200 plat currently

[novel bear]

Just wait for it to come back in nightwave

It’s not worth 200 plat

[drifting parrot]

Yea THIS would take forever

[gleaming oasis]

all online people on the market currently is 200, 1 guy currently is 100 all other 100 and 110 are offline

update the 100 one is gone the lowest online is 194

[novel bear]

Anyways, for xoris use
Shocking touch
Galv steel/sac steel
Ppp/sac pressure
Galv reflex
Melee elementalist
Volatile quick return
Amalgam organ shatter
Last is a flex slot, killing blow, power throw, or gladiator might

And melee influence for the arcane

[gleaming oasis]

what would be swapped for internal bleeding then?

[novel bear]

For hate light attack w/o burning hate use crabsweat
Condition overload
Primed reach
Berserker fury
Blood rush
Galv steel
Weeping wounds
Shocking touch
Primed smite/galv elementalist
Melee influence

[gleaming oasis]

how are shotguns modded. I currently going for a kuva kohm build

[nova swift]

I would show you my build, but im testing koumei in simulacrum and ill lose decrees if I check

speaking of koumei, bombastine's malice (toxin aoe on headshot) does not have a weapon associated to it, similar to yareli spaghet it causes the aoe to proc heavy weapon arcanes

free fortifier overguard gain on headshots, basically

[golden chasm]

Need to custom. I think every mission are need to use different mod ig.

[fierce lark]

gsavvy hell cc cd
viral elec/heat fr

anything flexible swap for elementalist/cleanse, run crux/deadhead

very status heavy shotgun

if you do run crux you might want to offload something and run ppb unless you have a primer companion

[gleaming oasis]

so no shotgun vendetta?

[gleaming oasis]

so my kohm has elec progenitor. how would that affect the element component?

[fierce lark]

magnetic would be slightly better for the CO bonus, elec is okay for status stacking

vendetta is bait, you’re not often in the range to trigger it anyways and it’s like 180% multishot vs 360% base dmg

[drowsy perch]

shud i buy for 600p

[late hemlock]

Do you really want to? Its not like torid needs a riven

Not that id buy any riven for hundreds of plat but thats just my preference

[gleaming oasis]

hows this as a starting point?

[fierce lark]

hell no, that’s not even that good of a roll

[fierce lark]

you want charged shell over elementalist, whether it’s primed or not

progenitors as counted as base damage in calculations, elec dmg from mods is a separate multiplier

so elementalist and charged shell would both add another 1.9x to your elec dots but one also adds raw dmg and elemental weighting, and the other doesn’t

[gleaming oasis]

so we want elec viral right?

[fierce lark]

heat works too if you don’t have primed elec

[gleaming oasis]

ok its that with prog elect it will become radiation

also which heat mod? 90 or 60/60

[fierce lark]

90, and yeah it won’t work unless you swap progen

[gleaming oasis]

I assume 90 given the status chance and heat being more damage

[gleaming oasis]

can you swap progs or would that require another copy

[fierce lark]

you need a rank 40 weapon and an elemental vice that you can buy from rank 5 hex for 60k standing or get as a drop from TA

once the vice is installed you can freely swap the element at will

[gleaming oasis]

TA?

[fierce lark]

temporal archimedea

[gleaming oasis]

ok

as for the build if I swap to heat anything else that should change

[fierce lark]

don’t think so

heat would only be theoretically “better” if targets live up to 1 second

since the first elec dot ticks instantly, but heat has compounding damage with every stack

you can also do blast, either by itself or with corrosive

mod 60 heat 165 cold 60 tox in that order and elec will combine to make 120 corro 225 blast

ive only used kohm for hemacyte so i can’t say for sure how good it is, but it sounds fun

[hushed meadow]

what element do i want on my epitaph to prime for my sevagoth nuke build?

[near crater]

Hi I'm struggling against SP eximus with this, specifically corpus. Any advice?

The OG is not even a problem. One or two headshots. The shield and health are giving me problems.
Is it safe to say that it would be even weaker against grineer eximus then?

[old marsh]

u might wanna read the first 2 mods and see what they do before you think anything further.

[near crater]

Is the punch through excessive?

Oh wait

[old marsh]

Read

[near crater]

I saw. Fml

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[near crater]

I forgot I had these on and initially just went with the punch through

Honest mistake

[old marsh]

Drop P Shred, Hammer Shot & P Strike. Mod in viral heat

[near crater]

Yet another weapon I can't mod pure physical

[stable plover]

one of these days DE will overhaul melee and we will be free from the influence.

[quiet laurel]

only weapon that you can mod pure IPS is motovore

[old marsh]

Would be nice if the weapon didn’t have Impact

[old marsh]

Should over Can

[near crater]

Yeah enemies twitching worse than Cry of fear monsters

[quiet laurel]

surely

[old marsh]

reminds me should mod my grinlok too. I have a riven

[near crater]

But like why can't I just have weapons that are down to earth and non-elemental? I had so many initial builds just purely physical stats turn out weak

[quiet laurel]

cause thats just how the game works

[old marsh]

If they overhaul IP then it should work imo

[quiet laurel]

physical elements are insanely sad rn

[cobalt ice]

anyone wanna trade me a veiled riven cipher for some loose prime parts?

[near crater]

I wish they weren't

[quiet laurel]

2 of the 3 are purely QoL and should not even be thought about to be turned into your main dps element and slash has been overshadowed by influence

[old marsh]

Impact should get SC vuln & Punct should have higher %CC

[stable plover]

hope DE dosent do anything lazy like make a new faction that is immune to electricity just so we have to use a different melee build for once. would be funny though.

[old marsh]

Everyone be like: Behold. My Hammer

Then another slam nerf

[near crater]

Idea: puncture could give temporary Punch through with damage vulnerability. Call it "perforation"

[old marsh]

That works too

[near crater]

OR temporary armor damage as, you know, puncture punctures armors. Like armor penetrating ammunition

OOOOOR maybe ignore a percentage of armor instead

[quiet laurel]

wont do much

like in theory yes but the meta wont change

armor already is such a non issue

[heavy bluff]

any tips on how to improve this build?

[near crater]

Then back to the first idea. Temp punch through and dmg vulnerability

[quiet laurel]

we just deal too much dmg rn and so we either need DoTs to make the shooting time needed on enemies less or need so much dmg so we legit one shot

[quiet laurel]

whats the riv

[nova swift]

god I love spaghetti code

[quiet laurel]

galv savy instead of riven

[heavy bluff]

kk

[quiet laurel]

bassocyst has bad dispo so would need an insane roll to slot it

cant wait for people to post their coda bubonico builds with the worst rivens known to man fr

[heavy bluff]

lmfaooo

[fierce lark]

doesn't the base bubonico already have bad disp anyway lol

[quiet laurel]

yeah

and yet I see people being overly excited for bubo rivens

like most players dont even have the average kuva to get a usable roll lmao

[fierce lark]

im still waiting for a hema riven to pop up

my kuva will die

[gleaming oasis]

nataruk time. first draft

probably should have a status on it but at the same time it feels,like it shouldnt

[undone dust]

should definitely swap heavy cal for galv apt

[weak jasper]

Hi, I'm going back to the game after a very long pause (late 2018) and now i have difficulties doing high ish level content because I don't have good weapons by 2026 standards (can't do level 80 star charts for example)

Is Amprex viable?

[gleaming oasis]

I mean anything is viable with the right tools thats the neat nature of the game

I have a 7 forma steel path stug for petes sake

[weak jasper]

My other notable stuff includes ignis wraith that i think is supposed to still be pretty good and pyrana prime

as well as S&A Prime

i aint got inkarnons and things of this nature unlocked yet

[gleaming oasis]

as a first draft this eems decent. the galv mods can be swapped out for their base variants

since its a beam weapon, it has somem unique gimmicks

multishot theorically adds more damage and status

since the beam chains to nearby enemies like the nukor and occucor punch through adds even more damage

[weak jasper]

what can i replace rifle elem with while i'm farming that?

[fierce lark]

every gun ever should have elemental damage of some kind (very rarely huniter munitions), not even for the status necessarily but for it being a damage multiplier. if you have vital sense already, 90% elemental mod is strictly better than another 120% crit damage mod

nataruk has multi galv aptitude scaling, vigi armaments is awful, and some fire rate is required to offset critical delay (fr has doubled effect on bows, including negative)

[gleaming oasis]

as for continous misery theoricically

or just any other damage mod

[vestal lintel]

Multishot or acuity on burston incarnon?

[pallid quiver]

both are good, multishot for general use is nice but acuity has a higher ceiling for dmg iirc

[fierce lark]

both are fine, acuity is technically "better" on the incarnon form even with a fairly low headshot ratio, but it makes incarnon charging significantly slower

[pallid quiver]

but that all depends if u can hit ur headshots

[vestal lintel]

Hm

[fierce lark]

i did acuity for awhile and ended up switching back because ms charges incarnon much faster and the gun does enough damage without acuity to evaporate everything anyways

[pallid quiver]

yeah ms feels much nicer to use imo

[gleaming oasis]

hows this then?

[fierce lark]

but doing 1mil incarnoff headshots with acuity was fun too

[pallid quiver]

but acuity for burst damage is nuts

[vestal lintel]

Yeah charging is annoying especially if am not fighting steelpath

[fierce lark]

blast/pure elec for the aoe potential, nataruk charged headshots will kill anything it touches anyways

heavy caliber should just be serration, same damage but without the minus accuracy, which i dont think matters on nataruk but w/e

amalgam serration is better regardless

serration is also optional with deadhead, you can run bladed rounds there instead if you want

with longbow sharpshot you need serration

[gleaming oasis]

jeez 17k blast just looking it

[fierce lark]

yeah nataruk was overtuned slightly for being a quest weapon

[gleaming oasis]

what could be swapped for the 90 elec mod?

[pallid quiver]

just a tad

[gleaming oasis]

yeah

[fierce lark]

this is what i would do with mine if i could be bothered to spend more forma on it

you do have to balance out fire rate a bit and figure out what's comfortable for landing perfect shots

speed trigger, vigilante fervor, pshred and even vile accel are all options depending on where you want the fr to sit

[pallid quiver]

blast nataruk better than elec nataruk?

[gleaming oasis]

currently 2 forma and its a perfect fit

[fierce lark]

bigger aoe

blast has 5m reach, elec only has 3

and with infinite body punch-through if you proc blast on every enemy you can wipe a 10m wide corridor in 1 shot

[pallid quiver]

is the base damage difference much?

[fierce lark]

between what

[gleaming oasis]

nah im using speed trigger faster charge and i already have it

dont think punch through that important on it

[fierce lark]

it's not, just lets it hit through thin walls

or around corners

[gleaming oasis]

I'm calling it Hunhows Biggest Regret

[pallid quiver]

elec and blast

[novel bear]

Blast does less status damage, generallly

[fierce lark]

oh, the raw damage on blast is much higher

because primed elemental mod

[fierce lark]

also i lied i didn't see vital sense missing, would replace gscope for that

[pallid quiver]

so if i dont have the primed mods then

[fierce lark]

you can run dual-60 blast mods or 90s or run elec instead

it's pretty hard to screw up nataruk

[novel bear]

90 elec is probably more raw damage than two 60s blast, depending on what you’re putting in the other slot

Definitely more status damage
Smaller aoe

[fierce lark]

i look at it as nataruk being strong enough to instakill anything you put in front of it that isn't a boss, so wider aoe = good

[gleaming oasis]

vital over galv scope?

IDK why it does that but it sure has better stats now

[pallid quiver]

i mean my nataruk works fine but im tryna see if i can get it to do more

[gleaming oasis]

500k to 800k

[fierce lark]

yeah, 1 crit mod + 1 crit damage mod minimum, galv scope would go over speed trigger if you had external fire rate (and were comfortable with what you were left with)

unfortunately external sources don't get the "2x on bows" effect

what you could do if you have reinforced bond or something, is run point strike instead of critical delay, and add galv scope

it's only 50% less cc and if you're running gscope anyway that doesn't matter, and it saves 40% fire rate

[novel bear]

Vital is always active, galv scope is conditional, and conditionals aren’t shown in arsenal

Wait, no, vital is cd, I’m stupid

[dire merlin]

yo does anyone have a good elementary combination for my kuva nukor please ?

[stable plover]

i been testing builds in the simulacrum, and i think there are inconsistency's with the data possibly caused by previous builds buffs carrying over to the new loadout when i change it in the same session too many times. cuz i had my Xaku xata wisper my gun, then the entire room died when i shot just one of them. i have no idea how this occurred, as i was not testing melee influence or any AOE type of build. (no pet equipped).

[dire merlin]

i can show my build if you want to

[stable plover]

nvm it was blast, i forgot it had blast on the weapon. i loaded the wrong preset.

[gleaming oasis]

cobination? nah you're working with cancer incarnate. you want to leave no primary element untouched

[dire merlin]

14,5 times crit damage 😛

[gleaming oasis]

Pretty sure you want magnetic progenitor

[late hemlock]

are you using arcane enervate?

[main silo]

so i was looking through some builds for the Tenet Plasmor and a whole load of them have rad dmg on them i thought rad dmg was a bit of a no no?

[dire merlin]

yes

[charred gale]

rad is dogshit

[main silo]

yeah thats what i thought 🙁

[charred gale]

it should be innate radiation tho

or are they putting rad mods on

[gleaming oasis]

I have radiation, heat, magnetic, and viral if you want to go max cancer

[dire merlin]

so what are you suggesting ?