builds-discussion

[thorn oak]

i just bought all the locators

[old marsh]

Aah. Then enjoy

[thorn oak]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-dog-dog-licking-dog-lick-sus-dog-zesty-dog-gif-5765766574828658332

[fierce lark]

i shit on radiation on a daily basis

but this is like the one case where it's giga op

[modern vale]

One question
Is Hate Incarnon worth it?

[fierce lark]

ive heard good things

however

the augment that pushes it super over the top is very expensive

[modern vale]

Hmmm
I decided to make a SP Circuit
Gotta go for it. I'd like to know more about whether it's good without Riven or with Rivens.

[modern vale]

Oh
How do I get the augment?

[old marsh]

Ye

[old marsh]

It was a Nightwave augment. Wait for it to come into rotation. And frankly u don’t need the augment. It will clear ETA content with ease. Hate is that good

[fierce lark]

currently it's unavailable, it'll be in the nightwave store at some point but for now the only way you can get it is from players, it can cost anywhere from 100-145p

[abstract axle]

lowkey tempted to sell it. thats more than a riven is rn

[fierce lark]

is it? i thought hate rivens were like 200+ lol

oh trash rivens are like 40p ez

[winter cypress]

anyone have pulmonars? is it worth keeping

[wild seal]

please help me how to "stabilize" this riven into a build

[winter cypress]

you mix it with status prolly

[wanton widget]

Would Roar be better than Doom in this build.

[mighty flare]

never subsume over doom

[wild seal]

oh okay thanks

[wanton widget]

too short range... then what to subsume over?

[winter cypress]

also think the status and slash mod, gladiator something I think can help retain some of the slash

[fierce lark]

you need to run the 3 augment if you're doing neg range

then everything you do applies doom

if you don't have or don't want to run the augment then drop narrow minded for stretch

[mighty flare]

run augment which is why you run narrow mind (usually)
drop narrow minded which base dagath doesnt need

[old marsh]

its already good

crit dmg is priority when u already have. and other r just flex

attack speed, range, CC, SC r all good 2nd rolls

-ve slash is good for influence. not if u r building it with condition overload

[wanton widget]

Overextended?

[mighty flare]

stretch is enough

[fierce lark]

there are no subsumes to buff fire rate right?

[wild seal]

will do thanks

[wanton widget]

wait it the augment applies doom... then why do I need doom?

[fierce lark]

if you subsume over doom, it removes the strength scaling

[wanton widget]

but then I just have an ability that is always active but I never have to cast it.

[fierce lark]

correct

doom auto-executes as soon as its stored damage becomes lethal to the target, so having strength on it is good

[mighty flare]

doom scales the doom applied from the augment, subsume over it and you need to deal more damage to trigger the execute

[rigid star]

How stat stick works nowadays? I've been away since 2023

[fierce lark]

they're dead

mostly

pseudo-exalted weapons like gara's lash and khora's whipclaw have their own mod configs now, so you don't statstick anymore

the only statsticks we still have nowadays that i know of are tennokai - if an exalted melee has a tennokai mod, it will inherit all of the tennokai effects of your equipped melee

throw merit on your exalted weapon and equip praedos with the sprint/parkour evos, melee careen and every other tennokai mod

it's amazing tbh

[wanton widget]

I see

[mighty flare]

dagath always keeps her 2 & 3, you decide between her 1 and 4 (or nothing at all) when subsuming

[hollow mantle]

Any suggestions for improvement?

[fierce lark]

i can't decide on anything to subsume

the only thing i could think of to synergize with doom was thermal sunder with augment to detonate blast procs with doom executes

but i dont have base gauss :L

[fierce lark]

probably want galv reflex over gladiator might

apart from having to spend half as much time stacking finishers, efficiency significantly reduces the time you have to wait around for combo to regenerate

12x IC with 0 hae sounds like ass

[hollow mantle]

I just jump kick enemies and they go down instantly

I can get max 12x combo within about 3 minutes

[fierce lark]

the second part still applies

[hollow mantle]

Trueee

[fierce lark]

get 12x initial combo, heavy attack something and watch how long you have to wait to get back to 12x

it sucks

[hollow mantle]

Yeah it is a pain in the arse

[fierce lark]

i have reservations about killing blow in heavy builds

if you hit too fast you aren't getting back combo in time anyways

[hollow mantle]

I mainly just use it + amalgam for the wind up speed

I originally had Gladiator Vice where Fever Strike was, but I changed the riven for this build so I needed an element.

[fierce lark]

if windup is too fast, you'll attack again before combo is build and won't be getting anything out of crescendo

[hollow mantle]

I feel like a moron not thinking about that

Thank you

[stable plover]

should i replace Dagaths 4 or 2 with Xatas wisper? i have the spectral spirit augment to enable my 3rd to auto doom things i hit. but does removing the Doom skill weaken the effects of dooming things with my 3?

[mighty flare]

doom scales doom applied by augment, subsuming makes it weaker
dagath can only pick her 1 or 4 for subsuming

[stable plover]

tyvm

[fierce lark]

do me a favor, subsume thermal sunder and equip thermal transfer somewhere, equip blast, post results

[mighty flare]

would rather run xatas, dagath likes her slots

[fierce lark]

i cant speak for them but i have one slot being used by augur message, that's not that important

only thing i could think of was replacing viral scythe with viral bullets, since doom actually accounts for viral stacks

[nova swift]

nourislop wins again

[hollow mantle]

As it should

Kidding.

[fierce lark]

im not actually sure if this is good lol im probably just gonna end up throwing evade over 4 once i make a second cyte

[nova swift]

altho blast does sound funny, it should have some interesting results on her. You could even stack hotshot with thermal sunder

[fierce lark]

not reliably, 34 range sunder isn't great at hitting things

[nova swift]

oh yea, youd probably run minimized range

[fierce lark]

with augment you don't need to press doom to apply it and nothing else needs range

so the mind is narrow

[sharp flame]

is this okay for a beginner sevagoth prime build?

[late hemlock]

If you went as far as fully investing in the augments and trying to utilize the 1+2 nuke id try to invest more in strength so it can do much more considerable damage

I assume subsumes are off the table for now?

[viscid bane]

Does -Fire rate kill it?

[tawdry trail]

Nope

Shotgun cannonade locks fire rate and it's a good mod to have on the plasmor

[late hemlock]

With that disposition doesnt seem worth running tbh?

50 cc and 60 cd is like really low value for a mod slot

[viscid bane]

I got a free slot so..

but I gotta re forma the whole thing

[thorn oak]

Is the Cinta used

[tawdry trail]

I got a plasmor riven too and it's tricky deciding what I want out of it

Rn it's sitting at cold and tox for easy viral

[thorn oak]

is the caustacyst good

[viscid bane]

Need help with ths challange, build suggestions anyone?

[thorn oak]

youll need a stealth build with primary acuity and deadshot, galvanized scope and proabbly super high crit chance and damage

[quiet laurel]

so you aim at the head and pull the trigger

[thorn oak]

honestly man just trade the riven over to me

[tawdry trail]

https://tenor.com/view/disbelief-shocked-surprised-gif-7471534

[sharp flame]

yes I dont have the helminth system thingy yet

[empty gale]

heyo, need help calculating stuff before i use my resources, for Oraxia, is it better to use 5 Red Archon (tauforged) to boost her STR or 5 tauforged Green poison damage amp if we want to increase her poison damage? or mix of both? more red or green?

[severe bough]

How is zylok inc? Is it worth to grab

[viscid bane]

I'm sorry, I am illiterate and don't know how to read or right, could you explain it to me using emojis?

[quiet laurel]

🤯 - 🔫 🥵

[viscid bane]

It's fun but nothing outstanding, but it's still Incarnon so it's good by default. I'd recommend Stalker weapons incarnon over it

[viscid bane]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[gusty plume]

is this usable

[tawdry trail]

A motovore riven could be super interesting

Do the physical damages get boosted still?

[vapid crane]

Yes

[violet silo]

no

[late hemlock]

Its pretty hard to get status damage effects elsewhere so green shards are incredibly strong

Red shards is additive to ability strength (which you can get hundreds of already)

Green shards are additive to status damage mods (pretty much only X elementslist mod)

Of course red shards will also benefit other buffing abilities if you use em though

[glass rampart]

Aim for the head then shoot

[stable plover]

do i need a Xoris Riven to make Xoris busted. saw one for 700P in trade chat. gives crit dmg, corpus dmg and cold, negative is slide crit chance.

[glass rampart]

No

[stable plover]

ok cool

[glass rampart]

Xoris is busted enough as is

You need melee influence to make it busted

[thorn oak]

no just influence

[violet silo]

ngl
that’s actually trash

[stable plover]

cool, dont i need blast as well? or is blast a lie?

[thorn oak]

i literally only have electric on mine but blast is probably better

[fierce lark]

literally unslottable riven, whoever tried to sell that is a scammer lol

[stable plover]

ah ok tyvm

[violet silo]

to be expected from TC

xoris has a one dot dispo too

[fierce lark]

yeah if you wanted to use a riven you're better off using the falcor

[stable plover]

ok, what would falcor need?

[fierce lark]

it's a reskinned xoris

[late hemlock]

General rule of thumb is that if a weapon has low dispo a riven is usually ineffective and it would take an insane roll or a specific synergy to make them worth using

[fierce lark]

with different stats and way higher disp

[thorn oak]

the falcor feels so slow to me

[quiet laurel]

xoris is slower than xoris

peak

[thorn oak]

???

[quiet laurel]

xoris be slower than falcor

[fierce lark]

slow in what sense?

[quiet laurel]

I am just restarted

[thorn oak]

like it always takes so long to come back when i use it

[quiet laurel]

cause it auto homes

[thorn oak]

i know but its kind of annoying

[quiet laurel]

and keeps flying until it doesnt find enemies anymore or the max flight time is reached

[thorn oak]

that and idk how to build it at all

[quiet laurel]

you can just recall it by heavy attacking

[thorn oak]

I did not know that

[glass rampart]

Just explode the glaive

Xoris is best for exploding glaive influence builds

[thorn oak]

what melees do people use with nova. ive just not been using a melee

[glass rampart]

People use guns :)

[fierce lark]

none, typically

preados movement stick

[thorn oak]

oh that reminds me i need to get that

[glass rampart]

Praedos crutch...

[violet silo]

I have the bps but pinion farming is trashhhhh

[thorn oak]

Real

u can get 1 pinion a day from whats her face

[fierce lark]

3 a day

[thorn oak]

3?

[fierce lark]

resets every 8 hrs

[thorn oak]

oh I didnt know that

yea pinions are annoying asf though i cant lie

just played mirage again for the first time in like a month and its genuinely so boring being so op

[late hemlock]

Op can be fun if the gameplay loop is fun

[thorn oak]

i was doing steel path conjunction survival

[fierce lark]

op is fun because you can pretend bad guns are good

[thorn oak]

just spamming the acceltra. i dont even look at the game i look at the mini map the entire time

[fierce lark]

sciencing out acceltra to try and make it good was pretty fun

[thorn oak]

for having aoe it has very good stats

[fierce lark]

it's moreso the ammo that causes problems

somehow we landed on corrosive+cold with gaptitude and crux

[thorn oak]

i just run vigilante supplies

Yea is there actually any point to run multishot since its so low

[fierce lark]

+100% multishot does the same thing whether the base is 1 or 20

you increase the amount of bullets by 100%

[thorn oak]

Well yea but if u have 20 ur shooting 20 more where as if u have 1 ur shooting 1 more

[fierce lark]

20 more which do 1 damage with 1% status chance each vs 1 more which does 20 damage with 20% status chance

technically more base multishot = miniscule chance to apply multiple statuses, but overall the output is the same regardless

[thorn oak]

I was thinking of swapping galv chamber for firestorm but I dont think it actually benefits much from it

and when I use the acceltra I use mirage so damage isnt really a problem

or maybe even hammer shot for even more critical damage cuz i get the acceltra to red crit with mirage

[fierce lark]

it'd bump the radial from 5m to 7.2m

but i dont think the acceltra does enough on its own to afford a mod slot to firestorm

[thorn oak]

Well thats why im saying idk that it benefits from it, I think it would be fine using it with mirage tho

[fierce lark]

maybe

but atp you may as well use envoy or smth lol

[thorn oak]

some people use it like it doesnt have aoe and get headshots and stuff with it which idk why you would do that

[fierce lark]

you can do both

[thorn oak]

i just think there are better alternatives if u wanna get headshots

[fierce lark]

there are better alternatives period

[thorn oak]

much more enjoyable with aoe

[fierce lark]

acceltra is not a top tier weapon

[thorn oak]

by itself definately not

[fierce lark]

it's a "good enough" weapon that's lazy and reclined if you have enough buffs to make it lethal

[thorn oak]

i just cannot figure out what weapon to use with my nova I love running shotguns but my shotguns dont fill antimatter drops 25k damage

besides the boar and the cedo i think

and then obviously the semi shotguns

[fierce lark]

felarx should do it easily

[thorn oak]

well the problem is i have hot shot to get crit chance with nova

doesnt the felarx have the 2000% damage with no crit

[fierce lark]

yes, but you don't have to run hotshot just because you own it xd

[thorn oak]

i mean true its just enjoyable

[fierce lark]

i hate the felarx personally but it's a pretty popular antimatter weapon

[forest jetty]

And, you don’t have to build Felarx around the 50% chance to 2000% damage on non-crits evolution. Not sure if flipping that to another evo is viable, but it is an option, if you’re worried about it and want to keep hotshot.

[fierce lark]

the other two evos are both conditional ammo efficiency

non-crit is the only build that sees any play or building around

[coral crest]

Yeah otherwise the last evo is just... Wasted

[fierce lark]

it's probably not hard to keep up the 70% eff thing, it's only on 3 punch-through targets and it has innate pt

[thorn oak]

Im so annoyed. I just got to the rank to buy the praedos and my standing cap is 500 away from letting me get the bp

i need to just buy the last zephyr part i need

[forest jetty]

I don’t know what the typical plat trade is for the Praedos bp, but it is tradable.

Of course, waiting for reset is the better call.

But, if you have a friend in game that has spare Holdfast Standing they otherwise aren’t using, maybe you could talk to them and see if they’re willing to trade for any old mod.

[fierce lark]

10p instant buy

[violet silo]

it’s so cheap to grab lol
not sure why’d it be worth much at all

[violet silo]

welp, before you buy the bp, make sure you have the materials

[fierce lark]

bypass the standing req

[thorn oak]

i will just wait its whatever its not life or death

unfortunately I am a solo player

[forest jetty]

Fair enough. Just thought I’d point out the option exists for some, though not all, base model weapons/companions/etc., even though no trading of base warframe blueprints/parts is possible.

[coral crest]

They should sell it for 5000 platinum

[forest jetty]

LOL… no. Not advocating for price gouging such an easy to get thing.

[coral crest]

Yes we must kill praedos

Destroy praedos

Kick praedos into the void

Break praedos in half, eat it and spit it out

Burn it

[thorn oak]

guys we should start selling rivens at 3000 platinum for a gun that will not be good in a year

[coral crest]

DE agree with me because Vinquibus exists

And it's clearly an anti praedos statement

[thorn oak]

in no world should a riven be more than like 300 plat

[coral crest]

Yeah, only things that should go for thousands of plat are funny lich names

I saw someone with an oncall lich called Cogg Stukk yesterday

I bet they paid a lot for it

[thorn oak]

i have yet to get a good lich name

i got one that sounds like robuck or vbuck

fortnite roblox sponsorship

[forest jetty]

I gave my friend a Kuva Lich with a last name of Fett. Its first name wasn’t too out there versus Star Wars naming conventions. He appreciated the Christmas present.

[lime phoenix]

the only good lich name i had was lukk hakk

[thorn oak]

do people buy dread rivens

[chrome plinth]

How much is the fair price for this riven?

[stable plover]

i dread buying rivens

[thorn oak]

100000

the only riven ive ever been able to sell was a rubonico riven

[coral crest]

A lot, geniunely

[thorn oak]

and im 99% sure i took a price way lower than i shouldve

[coral crest]

I'm not good at price checking but

Stats here are very useful, and the negative is useless

[lime phoenix]

i checked wf market and it goes from 1k up

[coral crest]

Mhm

[chrome plinth]

If I were to sell it for a fair price, how much do you think is the reasonable or estimate price? Should I base it on Wf market?

[lime phoenix]

there's no harm in starting at a high price

and seeing if people are interested

[chrome plinth]

okok thanks 😄

[lime phoenix]

but yeah usually i base it off wf market prices

because people ask for crazy prices in trade chat

[coral crest]

Be the one to sell crazy high and get scammed with a chargeback

1k and up is a good price to work around though

[thorn oak]

i have this latron riven that i cant even get offers on

[stable plover]

oh thought i was in trade chat for a second.

[lime phoenix]

damage to grineer kinda sucks but

i did sell a riven that had that negative for 1.5k

[thorn oak]

this riven brings the latrons incarnon form crit chance to 244.3 and crit damage to 11.6 alone

my latron has 380 crit chance and 18x multiplier

[lime phoenix]

i mean unless you are fighting like really high level grineer the negative shouldn't matter much

[thorn oak]

no grineer ive fought has it not one shot

in incarnon form atleast

i just dont like using the latron anymore cuz the zoom it has

my old riven was crit chance status chance status duration with -zoom

but the status dont even matter cuz the crit is so ridiculous

and it has good status

[forest jetty]

Isn’t zoom able to be turned off in the options menu, though?

[thorn oak]

idk

[quiet laurel]

No

[forest jetty]

Nevermind. The option I was thinking of was Use Sniper Scopes getting turned to Off.

[glass rampart]

Just don't buy rivens

[near crater]

Can someone tell me if there's something wrong with this build? I want the Galatine to make big chunk damage but it's just lacking. Want it to be steel path viable and preferably physical

[late hemlock]

Building for physical is just really really bad in almost every single scenario sadly

[near crater]

Man damn it

I get why but why can't it just work

So in this case, what could/should I take out and swap with an elemental

[night laurel]

could hear your heart break from here man im sorry

[near crater]

Had this image of cleaving through enemies with this thing. Legit takes multiple hits mid combo for it to do acceptable damage

Okay I think the addition of Tennokai made it like ten times better. Or twice. I dunno.
I'm hitting seven digit numbers with animosity and Dreamer's wrath

[thorn oak]

nova just too good

i have so much random prime parts

[toxic hare]

hello im trying to make it so that my saryn can infect the entire map and kill everything like that but i cant get it to do it is there anything i can change here?

[near crater]

You could add Overextended and augur Reach.

[toxic hare]

ok thanks but what should i replace then?

[near crater]

I guess streamline, for one. Next one either Equilibrium or flow, then use one arcane for energy economy/gain

[toxic hare]

ok thanks a lot

[near crater]

Try in Simulacrum and see how it looks in terms of output and consumption. For range, you're definitely gonna go into a mission. If you really want to stress test your range, test it in open worlds

[toxic hare]

ok thanks for the help do you know where i can get the overextended mod from?

oh never mind i searched it up but thanks for the help

[late hemlock]

Generally spores + miasma damage falls off hard in higher level content

You either invest in that combo for low to mid levels (farming eso is probably the best example for)

Or build her into a damage platform by pretty much ignoring spores and miasma and focusing on venom dose and toxic lash

[toxic hare]

Ok and what mods would you recommend for that build?

[late hemlock]

The former wants as much range as possible to make sure spores and miasma cover the whole map

The latter wants as much strength as possible to maximize the buffs with a bit of duration to not have to recast as much

[toxic hare]

Ok so i should focus on getting ability strength and duration mods thanks a lot for the help

[night laurel]

if i'm using a statstick companion weapon, this is unecessary correct? i dont think Arc Coil is goingto kill anything

[karmic badger]

You'd be surprised how lethal companions are now

[night laurel]

with a Vuklok? :( i'm not whipping up a verglas exactly

[late hemlock]

If you don't build a companion for damage you are correct this is bad

Very very strong mod for other type of companion builds though

[velvet sundial]

If I have a coda version of a weapon should I get rid of the regular?

[karmic badger]

Once its maxed out, yeah

[late hemlock]

As a general rule variants tend to outclass non variants almost entirely

[karmic badger]

Though... Argument in favor of keeping is if you have a really good riven

[late hemlock]

Thats really a per weapon basis though

[night laurel]

i'm sure this would do really well with a Verglas

[coral crest]

Yeah. The only weapon that is worth using over the lich version is Flux Rifle

[hardy heath]

What build y’all got on Uriel?

[olive wing]

So I'm making a titania speed build but can't really figure out how to make it faster. (I know my archon shards aren't as good as possible, I'm working on getting 2 Tauforged crimsons to replace the normal ones)
I've got it to 285% ability strength (in razorwing) but I'm not entirely sure what mods can be changed, what can be boosted or added.

(Note: I'm working on potentially getting rush into the build but the polarity is wrong rn)

[toxic hare]

smt like this maybe?

[karmic badger]

Firstly, ditch umbral mods

[toxic hare]

oh ok

this is for saryn

[karmic badger]

Secondly, belicose ain't gonna help here.
Thirdly, this is a raw power build as a gun platform right? Then run archon continuity

[toxic hare]

oh ok

[severe knot]

is it a speed build only?

[karmic badger]

Honestly razorwing blitz alone makes titania near impossible to maneuver

[olive wing]

Yeah, it's mainly to torment my friend you believes titania is slow

[toxic hare]

yes it is im trying to get the kuva sobek

[severe knot]

then u should but blind rage and transient fortitude if u want more ability strength

[olive wing]

Here's my other friends pov of the current build inside a cave

[olive wing]

Those are both from the orokin vaults, right?

[severe knot]

yes

[toxic hare]

sorry to bother but do you think this might work?

[karmic badger]

That's about what's needed for a weapon platform. Now you gotta consider your survival strategy

[tough burrow]

what do you think? Chroma prime build

[toxic hare]

ok thanks a lot

[nova swift]

Hmm, does anyone know if hideous resistance is smart about absorbing stacks? If you have primed sure footed does it not use up a stack?

[chrome cedar]

What stats should I focus on with Titania?

Somehow I feel like I'm doing my build wrong

[nova swift]

I come with results, does not protect agains your own aoe even if you have prime sure footed on. But it is a pretty decent yareli option because when riding merulina it does not consume the stacks. So on merulina hideous resistance only absorbs enemy status effects and works as expected

[novel bear]

Just use spellbind

[severe knot]

(Lavos prime) Is it worth it to swap "transient fortitude" with umbral strength and go with triple Umbral, and then subsume either evade (gas can deal weakpoint dmg i think, thus extending duration) or eclipse/roar over 3rd ability?

[compact cypress]

for being no forma, how good is this harrow build?

[compact cypress]

dont subsume over his 3, it shortens the cooldowns of your 4th and other abilities

[compact cypress]

would i be right to assume pillage would be amasing to subsume over condemn

[torpid osprey]

Does casting speed shards affect how fast Ash's shadow clones attack?

[unkempt rock]

Guys what is the best helminth for hildryn 3rd ability? And how do i refill my shield (2nd ability) if the enemy doesnt have a shield (infested)?

[pallid quiver]

for refilling shields on infested either just turn off 4 and deal with it or raksa kubrow ig

[unkempt rock]

Can i use sentinel guardian instead?

[pallid quiver]

not sure, from what i hear only raksa works?

[late hemlock]

guardian only works when your shields are depleted, so its pretty bad compared to raksa

as for a subsume my recommendation is xata, it can benefit from headshots even though balefire itself cant so it can reach some funny damage

@unkempt rock

wait i replied to the wrong person

[pallid quiver]

yea i heard raksa was the best companion overall lol

[late hemlock]

best for hildryn by a pretty wide margin, pretty eh outside tbh

[pallid quiver]

oh fr? is it not good for survival in general

[late hemlock]

the shield regen is nice but on most frames its not the most impactful

could just run a sentinel with guardian and manifold bond which will make it go off way more often than raksa

[pallid quiver]

ah right

i should start getting more bonds ngl

[late hemlock]

20k standing isnt too bad

[pallid quiver]

yeah, im just lazy

ill get around to it soon enough

garuda should be built as a health tank right?

[late hemlock]

depends on how you wanna play her really

personally im using her purely with ability casting so im using shield gating + abusing the iframes from her abilities

[unkempt rock]

Tha bazooka sometimes counted as headshot?

[pallid quiver]

ohh ok

i thought she would since she has bloodletting

[late hemlock]

you cannot headshot with balefire itself, but the additional hit from xata will get a the 3x headshot multiplier if it lands on an enemy weakspot

[late hemlock]

i mean as you can see im almost permanently invincible so building for more stats isnt really helping in this case

[unkempt rock]

With xata u don’t have 2 set balefire arcane to secondary deadhead?

[late hemlock]

no enervate is by far her best arcane

[nova swift]

They scale with attack speed and cap out at +50% attack speed

[late hemlock]

this is my setup

[unkempt rock]

Jesus have mercy

And that screen shake is🤢🤢🤢

[late hemlock]

why i love spamming nourish with maximum cast speed

actually no im lying i dropped natural talent

[nova swift]

You can build for shield gate (nourislop), hp tank, even melee build and persistence if you wanted to

pure caster goes shield gate tho

[pallid quiver]

with her 1 right

is her 4 augment good btw?

[unkempt rock]

Got summoed

[nova swift]

4 augment is really good, almost mandatory

[late hemlock]

persistence sounds super risky i wouldnt bother trying it? id much rather energy tank

[nova swift]

its not that risky but yea its a way to play her if you really wanted to

fun with contagion nikana zaw tho, makes you able to drop reconstruct

[nova swift]

and yea, you store damage with 1 and nuke half the map with it charged up

use nourish and bloodletting to cycle hp and energy for infinite shields and energy

[pallid quiver]

usually how much damage do i want stored up on the counter?

[nova swift]

nourish also buffs her 1 so its real good. 4 also marks enemies/primes viral to make your 1 do even mroe damage

[pallid quiver]

oh fire

[nova swift]

depends on the level?

[pallid quiver]

so i assume im getting rid of blood altar

[nova swift]

a few million tends to be enough

[pallid quiver]

shame its such a cool ability too

[nova swift]

ah yea, you would swap blood altar for nourish, and run molt reconstruct so your energy heals you

[pallid quiver]

mine is barely storing like 12k before i pop it 😭

[vagrant anvil]

What stats should I roll for flux riven
Just a fun gun no end game

[pallid quiver]

triple racist neg CC

[vagrant anvil]

Huh?

Why that

[nova swift]

yea the thing with garuda is that your 1 stores damage based on the damage you do and the damage the shield absorbs so early game it doesnt store a lot and late game you get funny scientific notation

[compact cypress]

i think those scale on the attack speed of his exatled right?

[late hemlock]

it scales with enemy health so you dont really judge by the number as its gonna change by the level of content you are doing

you get a feel for it but you generally can hold for a bit and then let go, very highly depends on how much casting speed you have as it affects charge speed

[pallid quiver]

Funny

Does holding it longer before releasing increase the damage? Like mid cast, not just while the mirror is active

[surreal willow]

hello! anyone got a beginner build for Volt?

[late hemlock]

the ability charging is split into 2 parts

damage absorbed by the mirror will increase the damage stored in dread heart, this is largely negligble
holding the ability while you have a dread heart active will start draining energy and in proportion charge the dread heart, the more you hold the more energy you drain the more damage it does

[hard dove]

Yes but it drains energy
Is that the part you're talking about?

[pallid quiver]

i think so

like theres 2 parts to it right

one is the neutral game when the shield is active but ur just running around letting it absorb damage

and then the other is when ur firing it cuz its a hold fire

holding longer gives more damage?

[late hemlock]

as i mentioned the damage absorbption is extremely negligble, you do not need to bother with this at all to buff the damage

[late hemlock]

yes

[hard dove]

You store dmg by ripping off enemies health (tap 1)
You increase the dmg manually by expending energy (hold 1)

[pallid quiver]

oh so i can just insta pop it?

[hard dove]

If your concern is storing up dmg i believe it works like oraxia where it instantly kills weakned enemies at luke 25% health i think?

[hard dove]

Hold for like half a second

[late hemlock]

not what im saying, im saying that trying to increase its damage by taking hits with the shield is useless

how long you need to charge depends on largely casting speed, and a bit on strength

[pallid quiver]

yea i mean like once the shield is up i insta start holding to pop

[late hemlock]

no reason not to

[pallid quiver]

rather than waiting for enemies to shoot it

ok sounds good

[drowsy pelican]

I can’t tell if it’s just a me problem but I am constantly running out of energy on dagath, any build that could fix that

[pallid quiver]

which stats do i build on her? is range needed

[late hemlock]

just so you have a sample size of how fast you can throw the ball

[hard dove]

The dmg from the shield is negligible

[late hemlock]

max out range its the top priority

the ball has zero line of sight checks and zero damage falloff

[drowsy pelican]

This is what I currently have

[pallid quiver]

ooh ok, which stats can i sac

[hard dove]

Efficiency

[pallid quiver]

looks like i gotta start hunting for the lua secret room mods

which is a pain cuz idek where those come from

[hard dove]

Unless you subsume 3 or something

[late hemlock]

eh i dont even bother with cunning drift

[pallid quiver]

dur too right

[late hemlock]

you can totally sac off duration yeah

[mighty flare]

Use equilibrium and a pet with synth deconstruct

[late hemlock]

though i dont think you need transient fortitude

[hard dove]

There's like no reason to nuke duration i think

[late hemlock]

the only thing that would do it is transient but thats not needed

[hard dove]

Though dhe doesn't care too much about it anyway iirc

Duration is for her 2 and?

The shield from 1 ig?

[drowsy pelican]

Invulnerability time on her third

[late hemlock]

if you have not been throwing the ball for the entirety of her 1 duration what are you doing

and since she is so giga spam heavy you are constantly refreshing duration anyways

[drowsy pelican]

I suppose

[pallid quiver]

ah cool

[late hemlock]

thats my current setup, mecha mod, aura + exilus and molt augmented are all flex slots you can honestly do literally whatever

[pallid quiver]

so i build her like gyre then

[late hemlock]

if you do not have casting speed shards natural talent is a must run

[pallid quiver]

what that

[pallid quiver]

no i mean

[drowsy pelican]

And here’s my (probably) garbage build because why not

[pallid quiver]

natural talent

[quiet laurel]

Take the "probably" away

[late hemlock]

yikes dont do him like that 🙁

[quiet laurel]

100% range garuda deserves it

[pallid quiver]

i have never seen this mod in my life LOL

[late hemlock]

used to be a must run in the olden days 🙁

[pallid quiver]

im pretty new

[drowsy pelican]

Since when has this been in the game?

[quiet laurel]

Forever

[late hemlock]

since lephantis was introduced pretty much

sometime 2013

[pallid quiver]

oh its a lephantis drop?

[drowsy pelican]

Why is it the only way to get casting speed beside shards?

[late hemlock]

since its additive with shards it gets pretty redundant the more of them you use so personally im not running it but its very very good to have on garuda

[pallid quiver]

how rare a drop is it from lephantis

time to go beat up that thing for the first time in a while

[drowsy pelican]

These are the shards I have

[late hemlock]

p sure it drops from some trash mobs too?

huh i got no clue what these are but ig its not a boss drop now

those top 3 i think are the grustag 3?

oh its interception drop now

[pallid quiver]

pain

[deep grotto]

I think those are the Grustrag 3

[late hemlock]

diabolical to have it a 2% chance from rotation c interception

might as well transmute

[pallid quiver]

man.

[karmic beacon]

Hey, so, railjacks, am I right? How does one build it properly?

[mighty flare]

You slot every speed mod you have then turret dmg and forward artillery mods, you’ll have 2-3 open slots for whatever

[torpid osprey]

Got an idea when testing with Ash for almost an hour: Does Melee Careen work with the shadow clones? Already tested that the rolling doesn't work obviously, but maybe with an external source like Shivering Contagion on a companion?

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/267568/voidrig/voidrig/

Also is this still a good build?

[nova swift]

oh yea about necramechs, if you slot in primary exhilerate on their archguns the slide's impact proc will cause you to regen energy

one of the rare energy sources for them

[nocturne heron]

hear me out: uriel + xatas???

[quiet plover]

Oh this is really useful. Thank you!

[tawdry trail]

Not sure about Ash but I tested this with Atlas' fists, doesn't trigger careen on rolls (makes sense) and even with careen also on another melee to freeze enemies it didn't seem like I was getting the 2.5x damage buff

[torpid osprey]

I see, thanks for the insight

[quiet plover]

Ok did this build with the Thalys and idk if I want Dreamer's Wrath or Discipline's Merit on this bc I'm focused on the heavy melee

The evos for Incarnon are early activation for the form and attack speed

[tawdry trail]

How much crit damage is melee doughty giving?

[hard dove]

Discipline since you eant to beavy attack a lot using chain shatter evo

Also doughty? It has low puncture weight

[gilded spoke]

I WAS JUST TAUGHT SOMETHING REALLY COOL

[tawdry trail]

That's what I'm saying

[quiet plover]

I know I was just testing that out, I'll remove it when I open the game again lol

[tawdry trail]

Afflictions could be cool if the heavy attack has a knockdown

[gilded spoke]

If you put cascadia flare and primary bulwark on your archgun and run a deadhead arcane on your primary and secondary weapons whichever weapon is out will get the bonuses from bulwark and cascadia

[quiet plover]

Wait this is the wrong screenshot... Sorry guys

[gilded spoke]

I now run this on my chroma build 🥰

[late hemlock]

you do NOT get the bonuses

yes they are in the UI but they do not apply to your weapons, all it means is that when you swap to the archgun they will work

[gilded spoke]

Nope, someone went and tested it you do get the bonuses

[late hemlock]

old footage, that got fixed

it used to be like that

[gilded spoke]

Nope someone I just dmed cause they found it out while using my chroma build

It still works

[tawdry trail]

I've been running flare in my archgun slot for a while and idk if I've noticed anything but maybe I'm not paying attention

[gilded spoke]

I’m gonna do a Lua SP surv to really test it but I am hitting half mil shots with deadhead and flare ALONE

Along with Fury from my vex armor

[tawdry trail]

Yeah using chroma with it is interesting because of how much extra base damage you get from his kit alone

[late hemlock]

very clearly NOT working

[gilded spoke]

Me staring at concrete results.
I beg to differ but you do you

[late hemlock]

[gilded spoke]

You’re also not on chroma

[late hemlock]

the only thing you can still stat stick onto archguns is dexterity

for the combo count

[late hemlock]

🙁

[gilded spoke]

Do you want my chroma build cause your chroma lookin awful

And why did you build for health he doesn’t need it

I gotta leave chat ts disgraceful

[late hemlock]

purely a lazy profit taker setup

chroma has absolutely zero use otherwise anyways

[severe bough]

Prop a pt setup

[severe bough]

Lmao

Was about to say

[fierce lark]

the chromasomes are kicking in

[late hemlock]

imagine using chroma unironically

[hard dove]

Why do you still have spectral scream for pt

[gilded spoke]

Im an 11 year chroma Main

[late hemlock]

becausee i cba to subsume lol

this is a lazy setup not a good setup

[severe bough]

I used him as zaw platform with pillage on lvl cap its pretty good

[fierce lark]

only chroma you'll ever see me using is chroma(tic blade)

[gilded spoke]

Oooo that make me make a zaw then

Can’t be arsed to go get one but eh

Maybe if I can get an exodia contagion to drop

[severe bough]

Eclipse def better but can still go with chroma

[tawdry trail]

Chroma is just boring bc all your gameplay is just upkeeping two buffs and with an augment you only have to keep up one

[late hemlock]

have still not made a single modular weapon they really dont seem interesting

[gilded spoke]

Ew to hell with eclipse

[tawdry trail]

I like chroma but he could be so much more interesting

[gilded spoke]

It’s always ECLIPSE THIS or ECLIPSE THAT

[severe bough]

Eclipse is just the best for zaws

[gilded spoke]

I Fkin hate eclipse with a passion

[hard dove]

The heck have you been using for PT then
Void dmg to cycle shield

[hard dove]

Eclipse have not been in any build in like years 😭

[late hemlock]

yes and going public, you would be surprised but i dont care for minmaxing a 2 min setup

i very very very rarely run profit taker

[hard dove]

It's only for pt or eido

[gilded spoke]

Wrong, with my build you don’t even need to recast. Run null star it’s augment and guardian armor with hunter adrenaline and you’re immortal 🤣

[tawdry trail]

You don't use elemental ward?

[gilded spoke]

I keep getting it RECOMMENDED TO ME

[gilded spoke]

I DON’T NEED TO 🤣

[hard dove]

Not recasting ever sounds even more boring ngl

[fierce lark]

not using elemental ward means you're using effigy

which like

what lol

[gilded spoke]

I can talk 4000+lvl idiots just fine

[gilded spoke]

I subsume over spectral and I only use effigy as an agro draw

[fierce lark]

yeah but even if you don't need it at least you can roll tox ward and pretend it's doing something

[gilded spoke]

Unless I’m credit farming

[severe bough]

Is occ still disabled?

I wonder

[gilded spoke]

me who knows how chroma really works.

Uuuuhhhh no, tox isn’t the best effigy. Cold is

Have him in a choke point or door way and he will freeze things

Or at the least slow which allows for easy cleanup

[tawdry trail]

Idk if you read that message properly

[gilded spoke]

I did, I know how tox works

Im also saying to hell with your recommendation cause cold gets you more benefits

[late hemlock]

you really gotta throw your jabs there huh

[tawdry trail]

Yeah but you don't use cold either

[gilded spoke]

including more armor from elementsl

[gilded spoke]

TF YOU MEAN 🤣 my open source build uses cold on elemental to kickstart the loop 🤣

[severe bough]

Armor does zip in endurance unless u play persistance which then gives u more to enable the arcane

And resist heat procs

[fierce lark]

me staring at vex armor be like

[gilded spoke]

Im done perfectly fine with armor tf sure you guys on about?

[tawdry trail]

You just said before you don't use elemental ward

[gilded spoke]

Because I’m fast enough on my feet to not need it, not that I don’t RUN it

[severe bough]

The 9999 thrax about to shoot me into Universe

[gilded spoke]

If I’m in a pinch and God got with a null I’m popping Cold Wad

[fierce lark]

lmao idc about that just give me enough to enable bulwark

and/or persistence

[severe bough]

Real

[fierce lark]

the reload from tox ward scaling with duration is very funny

[nova swift]

So uh, this is not the case but only in extreme cases and only for very specific arcanes

yareli's pet can proc exhilerate if you are riding merulina for example

and fortifier too

[severe bough]

Tox ward when pt>>

[fierce lark]

idk ive never done grofit outside of once for gravimag

[severe bough]

I actually

Could build the pt volt speedrun now

I got a second volt

Due to eido volt

But i need rivs

Anybody got sicarus riv
Velo riv
Ogris riv
Balla zaw riv

[fierce lark]

can i put my balla in yo zaw

[severe bough]

Please

[mighty flare]

you use toxin?

[nova swift]

we statsticking again ;D

The more I play and experiment with yareli the more bugs and other things I find. This warframe is hanging on by a thread

[tawdry trail]

Merulina is the modern elemental ward

[nova swift]

oh yea I totally forgot about that reflect interaction a while ago

[tawdry trail]

Cold procs from ward working with melee influece is certainly an interaction

[severe bough]

Its multi tho im pretty sure it doesnt really matter which u use the most important thing are the main builds

[severe bough]

Now you remind me of the time were we used slamistar for khora bruh

[high turtle]

Anyone have a khora whipclaw build for sitting and farming

[severe bough]

Influence crab

Basically

[high turtle]

Just melee influence

Bet lol

I was thinking a magnetic melee vortex to pull enemies in

[silk escarp]

Khora going to break my 1 key if I do anymore potato farms with her. My clanmate runs Nekros. 1 forma in with melee influence and she’s whipping for millions on SP. if my other buddy brings nokko, I probably should just make a macro that mashes 1.

[daring summit]

so if i wanted to do a chroma armor stacking loadout for pure funsies, what weapons and arcanes would you use? im thinking that primary bulwark would be funsies

[silk escarp]

Soma prime incarnon has +4 punch through if you have over 450 armor IIRC, I use that and primary bulwark on Valkyr just because there might be 3 seconds in mission I might not be blendering

There’s also arcane battery: energy based on your armor

[nova swift]

yea armor stack + battery + either primary bulwark or primary overcharge are a good combination

[dusky swift]

Does anyone have an good tenet diplos build element is magnetic if that helps

[daring summit]

@silk escarp @nova swift thats basically exactly what i had set up, i was just hoping there was something in my blindspot that would be hella fun

[cunning spindle]

I need to get more vestigal modes to rank that up

[nova swift]

It depends? If you run persistence you want some way to heal but if you arent then you can turn your energy into health too with quick thinking

[high sable]

empty is gonna be automatic trigger, any thoughts/modifs?

oh its the mandonel

[daring summit]

wasnt planning on persistence, but there is the chroma augment that extends vex armor and heals based on percent health

[late hemlock]

the % health healing is pretty meh considering you need 500 hp/s healing

there are definitely better heal sources than that

[daring summit]

hence the "wasnt planning on persistance"

i put on the health orbs raise max health one

10k armor should do just fine for enough damage reduction to keep me alive with that

[glass rampart]

Vortex Atlas Landslide

Thoughts

[maiden oracle]

Any ideas on how to make this pile of comical garbage better

[high sable]

thermal transfer

[dusky swift]

Any good steel path tenet diplos build

[maiden oracle]

Ooh true

[daring summit]

i dont have one, but i have a question. have you played with them much? their unique passive thing is kinda a huge negative qol and makes them a little hard to use. so i'd check that out

[dusky swift]

Just got them

[quiet laurel]

subsuming 2 but no aegis?

[dusky swift]

That’s why I’m asking for an build

[maiden oracle]

Screw survivability if I can't kill the room before I die then I'm a failure

[dusky swift]

Also massive titan fall fan

[daring summit]

when i just got the, i loved them, they look cool, sound great, are decently statted but their lock on mechanic thing is pretty bad

[maiden oracle]

🤝

[quiet laurel]

well an idea would be to remove redirection and slot aegis over either arcane

[maiden oracle]

But that means less duration :(

[quiet laurel]

for gauss you wanna invest into strength too for weapons platform

[dusky swift]

Might go for an tenet plinx then any recommendation for stat like magnetic or toxin

[quiet laurel]

and use thermal transfer

[maiden oracle]

Really?

[glass rampart]

Thermal transfer, some strength, arcane Aegis, and shield recharge delay mod

[maiden oracle]

Ah yeah
I always forget about Transfer

[fierce lark]

mag vortex 100% for endurance farming

[thorn breach]

Which is better?

[maiden oracle]

Right I think

I think
Left is the safer choice mthinks

[dusky swift]

I can’t find an single up to date steel path diplos build I want to field akimbo smart pistol

[high sable]

id go right for a debilitate build

[fierce lark]

left would be 100x better for debilitate

[late hemlock]

debilitate is just not really relevant when you blast enemies to death in half a tick tbh

[fierce lark]

not that debilitate is a thing

[high turtle]

Modding khora hurts my brain

[high sable]

but debilitate means no merciless so youd need base dmg from serration, or riven

[fierce lark]

if you're confident in not missing, you only need 2 hits to fully charge anyways so right is in theory better

"right is better left is still good and safer" is pretty accurate

also -zoom is great qol

[nova swift]

Actually quite comfy, vortex procs on killing blows (unlike influence) so it can be nice to group enemies up for your 3 to collect more rubble. That being said if you cant kill enemies in one punch anymore (which will be a while) then influence becomes better again as you can actually activate it

[glass rampart]

I mean I'm using Naramon

[fierce lark]

gas afflictions gara >>>>

[gaunt sapphire]

can triumbral be put on dagath?

like is it a decent idea

cuz i think the umbral mods are cool and im tired of not using them

[unkempt rivet]

Ok hear me out
Wyrd Scythes on Citrine?
Prime with viral for the AOE crystal??

[hollow shell]

I just got gyre prime and need a power house build can you recommend me one

[mighty flare]

can be put on, is it good? no

[gaunt sapphire]

doesnt doom benefit from strength

and grave spirit actually

i suppose the health and armor are bad for her kit

[mighty flare]

inefficient, and graves wants lots of duration, triumbral cuts in on that

dagath also doesnt get hit if you use her augment so no point

[gaunt sapphire]

so she just benefits from duration and range mainly

[mighty flare]

dont need range with augment

[gaunt sapphire]

duration and efficiency????

[mighty flare]

strength and duration

[severe kettle]

Is Molt Augment a good Arcane to have on Kullervo?

[gaunt sapphire]

k so i checked, 286% is the str needed for dagath 4 to work at its best

but getting away with half is fine cuz she always gets energy easily

so 143% and then you mod for as much duration as possible?

orrrr

268% with corrosive projection

[fierce lark]

kaithes hit more than once usually

they deal damage on 0.3s intervals

[gaunt sapphire]

how much do they hit usually

[mighty flare]

you dont build strength for her 4, you build it for her doom, crit buff, and slow (if you kept it)

[fierce lark]

sorry that's 0.15 second intervals

[gaunt sapphire]

do people usually helminth out the 4

[mighty flare]

yeah, or 1

[fierce lark]

a lot, lol

at ~280% strength it's like 86k per interval before any viral/doom stacks, more if you decide to put roar over 1

[gaunt sapphire]

definitely not 1, what do i replace 4 with? what are the options?

[mighty flare]

evade, xatas, roar, defy, anything you want really

[glass rampart]

Do y'all think convectrix is any good

[mighty flare]

its neat, kinda dated

[misty vigil]

i think some youtuber made a video about it, no?
seemed SP viable at least

[late hemlock]

Tbf usable in sp isn't a high bar

Most weapons with a good mod setup and an arcane will get you by fine

[undone dust]

well it's a status dumper like phage so it can definitely do cap

but it is definitely kind of dated

[fierce lark]

im giga hyped for tenet quanta

[late hemlock]

I really hope they make the cube good

[fierce lark]

i hope they actually manage to make the ghoulsaw good

[undone dust]

give it 100% base cc and 10x cd

[fierce lark]

okay with the insane amount of orb generation dagath can probably get away with an equi shard over the mod

need catashield so i can get rid of horses

[slender vine]

Fellas I have an Idea but IDK how whack it is

Temple but caster build 😵 😵‍💫

Basically using a ragdoll ability on him like Pull or Airburst with his Ripper's Wail

[fierce lark]

if im remembering this right, doing pyrotechnics subsume on the other frame is just a better version since temple doesn't really get any benefit from the non-subsumed variant

[tawdry trail]

yeah pyrotechnics mag and zephyr are both pretty cool

[fierce lark]

whereas pull for example loses a lot of range when it's not being used by mag

[slender vine]

Hummm interesting, and yes Pyrotechnics, I mixed up ability names

I should actually try it on Mag before I build another Temple

[fierce lark]

pyro mag is definitely a fun goof around

i haven't tried it but ive seen it

[slender vine]

BTW the ragdoll thing works amazing on Koumei

I insta deleted heavy gunners when I got triple 6 roll

It is still good without the triple 6, tho

[severe zephyr]

Secondary status gaze kitgun, yea or nay?

[fierce lark]

i think all of the kitguns work best with haymaker/tremor + splat

ive never seen a recommended build with anything else

[severe zephyr]

Difference is that idc about best, just good enough to be usable

And fun

[slender vine]

Then it doesnt matter, splat and haymaker only change stats

It doesnt effect how the gun works, just how good it is

[severe zephyr]

Just wanna know if secondary status gaze is worth considering

[slender vine]

No idea

Try it out and find out

[severe zephyr]

Fair

[fierce lark]

nobody else can tell you what's fun, only what's good, fun is subjective

realistically any kitgun combo can probably perform in all relevant content if modded appropriately

[quiet plover]

Gonna give this to my Vauban who really likes to cast his stuff lol

Still need to level that Arcane up tho

[sudden quiver]

anyone have any suggestions? i just started the game a few days ago so idk mods all that well yet

[tawdry trail]

generally a pretty good build, some of those mods have upgraded versions you could work towards but other than that it's pretty well rounded

[quiet plover]

What does Blood Rush do again?

[tawdry trail]

extra crit chance per combo multiplier

I think it's 40% per tier?

[quiet plover]

Oohhhh

Yeah, that's actually a really good guild

Very nice

[tawdry trail]

carnis mandible could maybe be changed since physical damage mods don't provide as much benefit as elemental damage mods but it's definitely got all the essentials

[fierce lark]

you may want to swap out carnis mandible for drifting contact, or something with combo duration. it’s gonna be hard to keep up combo consistently until later on after you get arcanes and focus schools

[sudden quiver]

currently it seems managable ive leveled up power spike so even if i do drop the combo it decays only 15 at a time tho ill keep that in mind incase it does seem hard to maintain

[fierce lark]

oh okay if you have naramon you’re good

[quiet plover]

I forgot that was a thing hahaha

And I'm currently on Naramon, too

[fierce lark]

but yeah still you probably don’t want carnis stinger, as mentioned physical damage increases don’t do much. they only scale the relative damage of that element, rather than all of your base damage. elemental weapons scale off of your total base damage.

replace it with weeping wounds if anything, and then replace pressure point with condition overload. high status + CO scaling = use a damage element that matches faction weaknesses, and you should kill everything in 1-2 hits

[sudden quiver]

ty for the advice ill look into getting weeping wounds and leveling it up w condition overload

[main silo]

for nova do you only really need 150 abil str to get her max speed/slow?

[blazing finch]

Does duration matter on ember

[fierce lark]

not hugely. fireball frenzy has a base duration of 40s, nothing else really cares about it unless you subsume a buff

[gaunt gust]

elemental pistol on laetum good or bad?

[fierce lark]

assuming you mean elementalist? not really, it's not a status damage focused weapon

[gaunt gust]

so it's just raw damage?

[fierce lark]

pretty much

[uncut vector]

so im trying to increase my overall damage with Dante's noctua, and im finally slotting some tau archon shards. should i prioritize the 37.5 secondary crit chance, or would 15% ability str be worth more

[fierce lark]

probably topaz crit shards

[uncut vector]

i got an orange with the fire damage crit chance already

i dont know if they stack, but i figure one is enough, then i have 2 tau reds that i wasnt sure if i should put more crit or ability strength

[fierce lark]

they do stack, they're a strictly better version of red crit shards

[uncut vector]

so that 75% increases?

with multiple

[fierce lark]

yes

[uncut vector]

awesome, guess im saving for some more yellows to combine then

[fierce lark]

1-2 cast speed yellows good too

dante presses buttons a lot

[versed turtle]

I'm copying a gyre build. How is the guy I'm copying able to fit more mods than me with potato.

New to this sorry

[tawdry trail]

potato doubles mod capacity

orokin reactor

[versed turtle]

That wasn't my quesrion

He's got his mods max ranked and I can't. No point space left. Does forma add more?

[tawdry trail]

polarities reduce the drain of mods when they match

forma lets you add more polarities

[versed turtle]

Ahhh sweet ty. Here the build here. The x means ice got . So you can ignore them

So I just need to figure out what ones to change. Is their a specific way to maximize the points I get?

[tawdry trail]

none of those mods really have alternatives that you're not already using, you could maybe use augur reach for more range but it's nowhere near as much as overextended

catalyzing shields is very unique

[midnight horizon]

Who's this? What frame?

[versed turtle]

Gyre will dm u link

[midnight horizon]

No need

[versed turtle]

Sent just before you sent that sorry ♥️

[midnight horizon]

It's ok

[odd bough]

What mods do I need to buy from red veil?

[noble egret]

I’ve finally got enough live heartcells to get a coda weapon. Which one should I go with at first? Btw I’m a melee style, and my main melee weapon is the slaytra

[mighty flare]

theres a Caustacyst now with max valence%, you should get that one

[noble egret]

I’ve got a friend recommending the catabolyst. With one would be better in the long run.

[nocturne spindle]

That's a gun tho

You wanted melee right?

[noble egret]

I didn’t know that-

[noble egret]

Yeah, my builds are typically melee focused

[dapper jolt]

This is my Mirage build, what could I do to improve it?

I'm mainly focused on the clones ability and buffing myself

[nocturne spindle]

Maybe rank up the mods a lil more

And get the other augment hall of malevolence

[dapper jolt]

I was using that but apparently it doesn't scale that much?

so I thought I could use some other more useful mod instead

[nocturne spindle]

By itself it's not much, but together with total eclipse it's worth it

Also what weapons are you using

[dapper jolt]

Ignis Wraith

[nocturne spindle]

I recommend the trumna

Akarius is pretty fun too

[dapper jolt]

Don't have either of those yet

[sour gyro]

Anyone have a paris prime build for sp?

[dapper jolt]

@nocturne spindle How much better would my frame be after ranking up the mods? I've been trying to complete the normal starchart but I think I'm still kinda flimsy

[odd bough]

Quick question. What are the chances I crash the hosts game with ogris?

[versed urchin]

When you get a Tektolist Artifact, can you only use it while you have its respective focus school active?

Does your amp only benefit from the mods on the artifact while you have that artifact’s focus school active?

[nocturne spindle]

Mirage is admittedly very squishy no matter what so ppl use methods like shield gating or shield recharge mods like fast deflection and arcanes like arcane aegis to cover up for those poor defenses

You can also subsume omamori on mirage, lazy defensive option

[fierce lark]

yes

[versed urchin]

Sheesh. What are people doing now where they’re destroying eidolon shields and popping a piece of it at the same time?

[night laurel]

trying to pick up the Kuva Hek again for boss-killing builds, how am i doing?

no bullying my bad builds 😔

[karmic badger]

Modded amps

[karmic badger]

Crit deceleration?

[night laurel]

don't have it yet..

[karmic badger]

I sentence thee to corrupted vault farming

[versed urchin]

Ya but is there a specific focus tree? Since someone said that Amps only benefit from the mods of the tektolist artifact if you have that artifacts school active

[nocturne spindle]

The mods you put on one artifact can be used on any of them

[night laurel]

NOOOOOO
however, is going all-in on crit the right move?

[karmic badger]

Well madurai is the obvious choice for more amp damage

[night laurel]

no savvy?

[karmic badger]

GunCO might help if you got a primer

Also swap to deadhead, bonus headshot damage

[versed urchin]

So I could buy the Madurai artifact, mod it, and then run zenurik as my active tree, and my amp will still benefit from the mods on the Madurai artifact?

[nocturne spindle]

No you need to be on madurai to benefit

[versed urchin]

Ah okay, thanks

[nocturne spindle]

Each tauron strike can only be used with it's respective tree

[dapper jolt]

I see

[night laurel]

thanks!

[midnight horizon]

Sire.... Why give him a suffer that he might fall short

[fierce lark]

of all the 200% crit -20% fr mods, shotguns is by far the most important one to own, you should buy or farm it

[grizzled mantle]

good kitgun?

meant to post that

[gaunt gust]

secondary irradiate seems to be also splashing status, so on furis with accelerated isotope it's 300/s heat procs

in a 7m radius

with merciless gunfight that's 2x

[fierce lark]

idk about you but the only targets i see that live long enough to potentially get 10 stacks of anything are status capped

and that's with encumber and galv shot lmao

[sharp flame]

can anyone help me in figuring out where I should start out in trying to get good mods for weapons? Im still MR7 but my damage is kind of lackluster

[late hemlock]

Orokin vault has corrupted mods, some of which are useful for weapons like crit/firerate

Unlocking arbitrations and getting the mods from there is probably the biggest buff

[sharp flame]

oh yeah how do you do arbitration? Cause I already have that unlocked I just dont know how to do it

[late hemlock]

In the top right corner of the navigation menu you will see it under alerts

They rotate every hour

You use resources there to buy stuff from a vendor found in arbiters of hexis room in relays

[graceful plank]

How would one go about building a nautilus prime?

[late hemlock]

The important stuff is to have cordon as the top priority mod (top left) and manifold bond so he can spam the precept

The rest is up to you and what you're trying to get out of tbe companion

[fierce lark]

you do need to have either coolant leak or assault mode, so that your companion actually attacks things

[tame musk]

pls help what best mods to put on weapon to destroy deimos lvl 100+ infested for bounties

[viral wagon]

which weapon..?
top of the head would be bane of infested

[fierce lark]

something that works well with blast

torid or any beam/high status output weapon

with blast bane elementalist etc

[wild seal]

how do i build around this riven ?
thank you

[fierce lark]

you reroll it

if you can't reroll for w/e reason, it can take the place of lethal torrent

but it's not a very good riven

[gaunt gust]

brother on furis in incarnon mode i click once and the guy has 200-300 stacks, 400 if i'm with furax

[fierce lark]

giga cap

[gaunt gust]

not an exaggeration, just 1 click like "BRR."

400 stacks

[fierce lark]

doesn't seem that impressive

[gaunt gust]

93.6% status chance with the sc evolution and galv shot, 3.1 multishot, up to ~4.6 with the galv ms buff, at 30 fire rate, and you got yourself ~100 stacks already

[gaunt gust]

did you put irradiate on

[fierce lark]

yes, you can see it occasionally spreading damage and statuses

[late hemlock]

The requirement of 10 stacks just kills it on so many weapons

[fierce lark]

and the build has galv shot instead of hornet strike because i can't swap them, so it has even more sc and less base damage than a normal furis, it should have all the time in the world to get to 10 rad stacks and spread statuses

but it doesn't, because like so many other weapons, if it's built even semi-decently, it will kill everything in front of it before there's a chance to even get 10 rad stacks

same reason why debilitate is a meme and not good

on like...anything

[hollow scarab]

what is the best incarnon evolutions to pick for the hate incarnon?

if i dont use the full stalker set

[coral crest]

Evil and Intimidating Mars

[fierce lark]

you can't just casually namedrop the worst scaldra weapon like that

[hollow scarab]

what? i like the mars

[coral crest]

(the only real use I found for Debilitate is to be a mag dump Basmu primer for caster Lavos)

[fierce lark]

of course

no matter how much i shit on something, box will find some way to use it on lavos

[gaunt gust]

i'd recorded what i'm seeing, but i gotta downsize and cut it, hold on

[coral crest]

It took a health tank caster Lavos, Valence Formation, and Basmu with a capped augment

This is definitely one of the use cases of all time

[fierce lark]

what is debilitate even doing here

[coral crest]

Adding 2 more statuses for Catalyze per modded ones

4 if using primary instead of alt fire

This isn't to do damage, literally all it does is fill in the blanks of my elemental rotation

[hollow scarab]

is there a way to make my man more tanky? i feel way too squishy on sp survival

trying to keep his 3 btw cuz it does good things for me

[coral crest]

Outside of the explanation given above, I'm honestly not even using it much

I've found Miter much more useful as a caster implement anyway

[late hemlock]

He feels squishy but you do not have a single mod or even an arcane for survivability?

[coral crest]

Consider investing ANYTHING into survivability

[fierce lark]

oh does catalyze have a CO factor or something lmao

[coral crest]

Wait you don't know

[fierce lark]

brother

the first thing i did when i got lavos prime was subsume roar over 4 LMAO

[coral crest]

Catalyze primarily does damage using it's innate CO effect

It doubles the damage per status

Not multiplicative even

2000 dmg turns 4000 from 1 status
4000 turns 8000 from 2 statuses

And here we go

[fierce lark]

big funny

[coral crest]

That's how caster lavos cashes out

That's like the only thing in caster lavos that can kill

[hollow scarab]

any tips? im used to abilities being for survival

[fierce lark]

equip circumvent and roll when you see something with overguard

[coral crest]

So you basically build your entire personality around vomiting as many different statuses as possible

[fierce lark]

that will cover you on survivability until about level 1,000

[coral crest]

In any ways possible

[fierce lark]

actually idk how much vauban needs to spam so idk how viable rollmaxxing is foir survivability

[hollow scarab]

ic

[vagrant anvil]

Question:
Whats in overall use better to have
Bc of a riven with toxin i can only build for a single status or a single combined status
What status should I go for ?
Toxin or a combined toxin + ?? Status on a melee?

[fierce lark]

usually when that happens you reroll or don't slot the riven

what weapon is it?

[vagrant anvil]

Thalys

[coral crest]

On top of this dmg scaling, Catalyze also has a forced heat proc and takes infused statuses(duh)

[vagrant anvil]

My no riven build is toxin only

[coral crest]

Like 50m radius that ignores walls and LoS to cash out on all your priming

[late hemlock]

Shame it doesnt ignore verticality

[coral crest]

The vertical range is pretty good tbh

It doesn't go up much, but it goes down considerably

You can Infuse more heat just to definitely kill something, or blast for the funny

[fierce lark]

thalys has nothing special excluding it from running influence slop, but if for some reason you're allergic to meta you can run tox exposure/duplicate

[vagrant anvil]

Im non meta slave

I hate influence

And freaking love heavy attack Huge AF scythe build

[fierce lark]

heavy attack builds on heavy scythes are terrible (imo)

[coral crest]

Sometimes you have to see where meta options have unique synergies that go beyond being just random slop

[fierce lark]

because the second heavy in combo has horrific area coverage

[coral crest]

Like Nourish Garuda or Evade Lavos

Damn you, Nourish Garuda

[fierce lark]

well you have to be able to see how big the gap between meta and whatever hipster thing you're doing is

[coral crest]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

garuda still nukes cap without nourish

[coral crest]

Pretty much

[fierce lark]

but most melees are much worse without influence

it's impossible to overstate how strong permanent 18m 1-button auto-nuke is

[coral crest]

I use vial rush on her for fashion reasons

[fierce lark]

no you use vial rush on her because you need lavos everywhere you go

[vagrant anvil]

I only have r1 influence and not gonna grind or pay for it

[hearty night]

is the dark sword good? i just got a riven for it

[late hemlock]

Nourish makes the energy economy infinitely better which is the main reason I run it tbh

The damage bonus is secondary

[fierce lark]

i swear you have vial rush subsumed on everything lmao

[fierce lark]

yeah i kinda figured

[late hemlock]

Incredibly strong with a riven

[fierce lark]

dark sword doesn't look that good, has no crit stats

[hearty night]

wow

[fierce lark]

forced tox on slam is cool i guess

[hearty night]

im gonna gamble then

[late hemlock]

Forced tox with afflictions is broken

[coral crest]

Nooo I just... gave her.. alchemist fashion

[fierce lark]

the first step is admitting you have a problem

[coral crest]

Think about it

Her default energy color is red

When you use vial rush, the throws around blood vials

[fierce lark]

true, the btd6 monkey alchemist does throw red vials

[hearty night]

is t his good i just saw range

[coral crest]

I rarely use subsumes in general

[fierce lark]

awful

[coral crest]

I sometimes slap omamori on frames and that's about it

[hearty night]

what would a good riven look like for it

[fierce lark]

im not actually sure what's good on a dark sword riven? you'd be looking for +tox +damage and idek what else tbh

[late hemlock]

Toxin %, melee damage, initial combo

[fierce lark]

initial combo

[tawdry trail]

dark sword forced proc on slam with afflictions goes nuts

[late hemlock]

Build it for slam with toxin

[hearty night]

ok

[hearty night]

damn

[tawdry trail]

I have an afflictions slam build with coda mire and it pains me that dark sword with a riven is better

[coral crest]

Actually it's not an alchemist fashion

It's mosquito fashion, because I also have Garuda Hinsa on

[fierce lark]

i dont like that you're using saryn for this example lol

[late hemlock]

Without saryn its still hundreds of mil

[fierce lark]

like saryn doesn't turn every melee weapon in the game into a broken slam afflictions weapon

[late hemlock]

Just dont have a clip on hand

[coral crest]

Saryn cares about healthy representation

[hearty night]

critical damage

[fierce lark]

it has 1.5x crit dmg base and 5% cc lol

[late hemlock]

Cdmg is only good if you use wrathful

I wouldn't bother, roar is better

[late hemlock]

Toxin% is your n1 priority

[fierce lark]

saryn just single-handedly increased panthera riven prices tenfold

so that's pretty cool :))))

[coral crest]

Moug did

I swear

[fierce lark]

that was the funniest clickbait ive watched in a long time

[coral crest]

First dark sword, then panthera

What next?

[fierce lark]

like all he did was built a 350 strength saryn and press spores

i dont think combustion beam is doing anything overly crazy here