builds-discussion

[undone dust]

spore aug is just for buffing sobek for easier inital kills
toxic lash is what really matters (and roar but you can also just run a bane)

[thorn oak]

and I need another forma and i dont have any

[velvet pulsar]

There's no viral progenitor
There's no viral dual stat mods like radiation or magnetic
There's no viral on Deimos infested.

[thorn oak]

biggest mood ruiner

[pallid quiver]

Oh does it need roar to properly work

[undone dust]

no roar/banes just make it more effective

[pallid quiver]

Speaking of Deimos

I still gotta grind out a CO

[thorn oak]

i think im gonna buy a forma pack.......

[undone dust]

no shame in that twin

[thorn oak]

the last week i think ive spend half of my plat on stupid things

[velvet pulsar]

Try ur luck with sortie

If that doesn't work then buy

[undone dust]

farm alot of bps and passively build them and just buy a bunch, trust

[thorn oak]

Thats what I do

but every couple of days I wanna experiment with a new gun

[velvet pulsar]

I've kept my forma above 30 since plague star.
It was in 40s or 50s after plague star.

[thorn oak]

I was not playing during that

wow blast sobek feels amazing

[velvet pulsar]

I've spent all my omni forma

Usually I keep at least 1.

[thorn oak]

I think I have 1 thats just been sitting for so long

[velvet pulsar]

Last one went into Dual Toxocyst

[thorn oak]

Ok i read this thing with nova that her 4th somehow does different damage or something depending on a weapon u have

or maybe i interpreted it wrong

I just dont understand how that would work

it doesnt feel any different from weapon to weapon so i think i read it wrong

[astral pewter]

it feels disgusting in the best way possible

[astral pewter]

it does the explosion dmg, then multiplies it by strength and then i believe it multiplies your gun’s damage depending on if its what set off the explosion

[velvet pulsar]

Molecular Prime has damage inherit & damage credit.

Just like Zephyr's Tornadoes.

[thorn oak]

nova is so amazing

[velvet pulsar]

The explosion caused by her 4 are considered as damage done by Sobek/Acid Shells, and will grant kill credit to the gun instead of Nova's ability kill.

[nocturne spindle]

nova indeed is cracked

[thorn oak]

so if i wanted to level a gun could I use her 4th

the urge to put 5 parkour velocity shards in every warframe

i dont remember who told me that once u use 1 parkour velocity shard youll use them on everyone but they werent wrong

[velvet pulsar]

Definitely wrong about me

[nocturne spindle]

now just go one step further and utilize those parkour exilus mods

[velvet pulsar]

Nah u use the exilus mod for more energy max

[nocturne spindle]

me slapping firewalker on mesa like a maniac

[thorn oak]

I usually use the one for strength bc u also get knocked around less

i got an anasa sculpture from the sortie

[velvet pulsar]

Oh wait...

[thorn oak]

cant complain about that

[nocturne spindle]

same, it's always sculptures

[velvet pulsar]

The energy max exilus mod also give Parkour Velocity

Well I'm getting it now

[thorn oak]

I wish the weapon exilus mods were actually useful

[fierce lark]

they're a lot more useful than the warframe ones lol

with the glaring exception of psf

[thorn oak]

idk I use the drift mods when I wanna max everything out

like for my mirage pure strength build im running power drift since it adds up to 30% extra damage

even tho its not even much at all

[night laurel]

why don't people use 127 for Thrax killing in cascade, btw?

[thorn oak]

What is 127

if it kills thrax i need it cuz I play a lot of those omnia fissures

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/SB8jZVLuBCs?si=6LTxFwlqLjyVtW7K

[thorn oak]

these are good but I literally gotta change my playstyle to use them

[velvet pulsar]

Rank 0 takes 0 mod capacity BTW, even on mismatched polarity.

[fierce lark]

15% of a stat is w/e after everything else is built

beam length is universally massive qol, projectile velocity can be insane qol, -recoil is anywhere from minor to huge qol, +accuracy is sometimes relevant, ammo max/mutation is required for some weapons, and on hitscan weapons projectile velocity can be a straight up dps upgrade to increase the damage dropoff range

same with projectile weapons tbh, just increased dropoff range is more dps

[velvet pulsar]

Cautious Shot on AoE exilus can allow replacing PSF on warframe exilus in some cases.

[thorn oak]

Yes there are very few good ones which I use but its upsetting seeing how many there are that arent actually that good except for niche things

[velvet pulsar]

Also vigilante set bonus

[thorn oak]

I dont even got PSF to be honest I just get knocked down and complain usually

[velvet pulsar]

Use Cautious Shot

[modern yoke]

So, I need a Revenant build, need to update mine

[fierce lark]

there are a lot of exilus mods that don't do anything, sure

but the slot is still very useful on a lot of weapons, because there is something you can put there which is amazing

[velvet pulsar]

Also Supress

Doesn't break invisibility for some frames.

[modern yoke]

My build, meant for his 4

[thorn oak]

Is there an actual way to play revenant i think I only used him when I first got into SP cuz i kept dying

wow my revenant isnt even taking up all the mod slots

I think for revenant you usually focus strength and duration

more mesmer skin charges, and duration makes enthrall and mesmer skin active longer too

[midnight horizon]

For revenant, if you're not using his 4 then all damage

Like seriously, all damage

His 2 and 3 is focused on damage

[thorn oak]

Yea so strength

[midnight horizon]

1 is like a buff for 3

[fierce lark]

if you're just playing disco ball revenant you want max strength with some duration + eff and negative range

[midnight horizon]

Hi Saryn!!!!

[fierce lark]

hi

[midnight horizon]

Whatchu doin?

[thorn oak]

Im thinking of grinding for the lato vandal

I will probably regret it

[midnight horizon]

What does Lato Vandal do?

[high rock]

Rng you gonna need lucky

[thorn oak]

Honestly I just dont wanna use the normal lato

[midnight horizon]

It's in ESO right?

[thorn oak]

Yea

[high rock]

Yea just like khora farm

[midnight horizon]

Yeah you gonna need luck

Good good luck hahaha

[thorn oak]

I know its annoying

[high rock]

Khora base is great tho but yes players RNG with frame is what decide if he gets frame in 1 try or multiple

Same for Braton vandel and lato

[odd bough]

Besides rhino, what frames am I supposed to subsume?

[velvet pulsar]

Volt

Mag

Trinity

[odd bough]

Okay thank you very much

And you only need to subsume a frame once and you can always get that ability? Or do you need to subsume again to use it in another frame

[thorn oak]

just once

[odd bough]

Thank you for your extreme kindness and generosity I will cherish this moment between us until I meet my end

[thorn oak]

Yes

I got a Sepfahn Mantius riven

I need a high damage melee recommendation that isnt a glaive

[modern yoke]

How's my Paracesis build so far btw? Been a long time since I've used this weapon

[fervent crescent]

it looks fine but prolly get rid of life strike for something else

life strike + blood rush with zero heavy attack efficiency is a nonmbo

also get rid of killing blow too

[fervent crescent]

or get rid of the glad might for galv reflex

if you want to run everything there as is, you could use a tennokai mod

[thorn oak]

is the praedos really THAT good

i only want it for the sprint speed and parkor velocity

[nocturne spindle]

It's good primarily for that reason alone lol

Otherwise it's just a standard melee with a standard incarnon

[midnight horizon]

Volt, Grendel, Koumei

[wind cosmos]

-# all of them

[midnight horizon]

There are a lot:

Syam
Skiajati
SunMoon
Arca Titron (slam)
Magistar (slam)
Nikana Prime
Skana Prisma (Incarnon)
Keratinos

And other more but those the ones I can name

[modern yoke]

I don't have either of those ._.

I just got my Railjack recently and need to Mod it, soooooooo...

Haven't even done The New War yet

[modern yoke]

Hey, guess what, if I want Magistar... I'm maxed in New Loka

[midnight horizon]

An Magistar be traded? Hahah

[modern yoke]

I'll check

[modern yoke]

Yep!

I need to get A LOT of Standing for it, but I could definitely get one for ya for lower than market rate

Since I'm helping ya out before getting myself one

[midnight horizon]

WHATTTTTT how much? Or is it free?

[modern yoke]

20p, basically just a Potato/Slot for compensation

[midnight horizon]

I'll save 20p for ya

Save it there, I'll buy it when I am online, either later or tomorrow

[modern yoke]

Gotcha, I'm not even close to the required Standing anyway

[midnight horizon]

Take your time, I'll do my grind too

[fierce lark]

base magistar is better

(if you are going to use the incarnon)

[modern yoke]

All I'm hearing right now about Incarnons basically boils down to... They're broken

[fierce lark]

pretty much

not all of the incarnons are amazing, but most of them are at least good and the best weapons in the game are incarnons

[thorn oak]

Just used my acid shells sobek with nova for the first time

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[thorn oak]

I was in a survival for 20 minutes and it was killing them alright but not super quick, got out of the survival, had the most kills in my lobby, then noticed I had an extinguished dragon key on the entire time

[old marsh]

meanwhile Bronco Incarnon

not even Incarnon upgrade could save it

[thorn oak]

I was playing with a mesa and a vauban aswell dude

[fierce lark]

is the funny 300% viral augment akbronco only

[thorn oak]

I was fr about to come in here and start talking ab how I dont get the hype behind acid shells 😭

[old marsh]

ye

[undone dust]

yes

[fierce lark]

cringing

[old marsh]

waiting for Rebb to drop the update to have akimbo and non-akimbo versions to have universal upgrades. probably year 2053

[fierce lark]

does antimatter drop inherit acid shells 🤔

[thorn oak]

Yes

[old marsh]

cant remember. i probably tried it long time ago

[old marsh]

awesome

[thorn oak]

antimatter drops damage is also considered weapon damage

same with her 4th so her 4th also does acid shells

[fierce lark]

does antimatter do anything to acid shells' chaining damage

[thorn oak]

im not sure

apparently not as acid shells is considered a seperate damage

[slow trellis]

hi, can i get help with my rev build here?

i dont know if it's good enough or if i should prioritize other stats

[fierce lark]

send it

[thorn oak]

but molecular prime it says does increase the damage output of acid shells

[thorn oak]

probably dont need adaptation or steel fiber so long as u keep up on mesmer skin

[fierce lark]

anything that is meant for defense is pretty much useless , rev's whole thing is being permanently immune

[modern yoke]

Whelp, luckily I just care about "Viable enough"

[undone dust]

you need xatas to actually chain

i misread that as molecular but no antimatter doesnt

[slow trellis]

how does he go immune?

[fierce lark]

press 2

gain full immunity to everything until you run out of stacks

[slow trellis]

what stats do i want then? also what mods should i be using instead?

[old marsh]

kind of. invulnerable. he can take "health" dmg but not die.

[fierce lark]

depends on if you're using thralls or not

[old marsh]

str & dur

[slow trellis]

i dont know man i just wanna do arbies, i dont even use rev that much i just wanna do some arbies

but it feels like every time i ask a question, i just get info dumped or asked questions idk how to answer and then people just move on without elaborating

[slow trellis]

well uhhh i have 249% str and 207% duration

[fierce lark]

if you want to brain off be invulnerable and play the videogame get as much str as humanly possible with some duration, run narrow minded and subsume something 1/4

[slow trellis]

50% eff and 100% range

idk what subsuming is, i dont wanna bother doing that rn

[old marsh]

then just build for strength and nothing else. use mesmer shield augment and enjoy

[slow trellis]

too much of a hassle

[old marsh]

think bigger

MORE STR AND DUR

[modern yoke]

How much Duration do you guys think I need on Rev?

[thorn oak]

Does anyone actually use the arcanes yonta sells, I have so much lua thrax plasm and I have voruna and both her weapons leveled

[fierce lark]

however much you want, duration isn't overly important

[undone dust]

duration only really matters for subsumes

[old marsh]

more is better if u wanna use Thrall Pact augment. so thralls stay with u for longer and u get the buff

[undone dust]

also this

[old marsh]

ye. subsume like nourish or roar or whatever u wanna try on Rev

[thorn oak]

oh my

I forgot I got all the vitus essence for grendel

been holding that off cuz i dont wanna do those missions at all

[modern yoke]

Ah, so if I just want to use Mesmer Shield for example or put in more Strength, I can

[fierce lark]

yort

[modern yoke]

There we go, that should do it

[undone dust]

you really dont need eff LMAO unless you're doing reave spamming

[fierce lark]

looks more revenanty

the only thing i would swap is probably streamline for thrall pact

[undone dust]

that or mes shield if you hate thralls

[modern yoke]

I honestly forgot I had Streamline there, lol

[fierce lark]

or both n drop like continuity or augur secrets

[undone dust]

probably aug secrets

[modern yoke]

I don't actually have either of his used Augments

[fierce lark]

thrall pact is op as hell if you actually use your primary weapon

[modern yoke]

Not high up enough in Perrin

[undone dust]

okay what about suda

[fierce lark]

can always buy them from warframe.market

[modern yoke]

Huh... Or unranked they're just 10p each

[fierce lark]

syndicate augments are usually around 10p

[modern yoke]

But uh... I need to save mah Plat

[fierce lark]

you can make back the same amount of plat later by buying the augments and selling them again, if that's your concern

or you can look at it as spending your plat to get the augments so you can use the faction standing for other things

[modern yoke]

I mean, true

[thorn oak]

somehow played an arbitration for 10 minutes and got 25 vitus essence

[karmic badger]

what's a good kuva hek setup

[thorn oak]

does crux give a flat 300% or 300% of what your normal status is

Cuz if its flat then im gonna take Galvanized savvy off for elementalist

[karmic badger]

it acts like a mod

only the ammo efficiency is flat

[thorn oak]

oh

so if i have 20% status i would only have 80%

[fierce lark]

yep

[thorn oak]

that SUCKS

[fierce lark]

it's still good on status weapons

or on the AX-52 where it adds with the passive to give you infinite ammo

[thorn oak]

Yea i just wanted elementalist on for more ammo and blast damage

[night laurel]

do you have an opinion about the EVF-something Jupiter rifle? I feel like it would be a good contender in the "rifle that does nothing but be a rifle" gang besides AX but i feel like the AX has a better passive of increased crit on ADS?

[mighty flare]

ksobek has ~16ms with galv hell and ~100% sc with crux & gapt, thats alot of statuses

this is for nova sobek?

[thorn oak]

Yes

[fierce lark]

the jupiter is the one that has a corrosive shotgun alt fire right? or is that the purgator

i don’t really have an opinion on any of the scaldra weapons tbh, though ive heard the dual viciss is alright

[mighty flare]

jupiter has the forced corrosive alt
purgator has the gas passive

[mighty flare]

then you'd want to stick to electric and use blast mods for elementalist/bane or qol

[night laurel]

gotcha, thanks

the alt shotgun has this charge delay to it which makes it kinda sucky

[odd bough]

Are 57% rad stubbas good?

[cinder quartz]

Hi! im trying to start steel path, this is my cedo build but it doesnt seem to do ANYTHING to the grinner on E-Prime? im waiting for hildryn to be made for pillage but surley i should be seeing some damage? thanks!

[thorn oak]

are u using the alt fire

[cinder quartz]

yeah to proc status

[thorn oak]

i would recommend viral heat

and also arcanes if u have any

[cinder quartz]

what arcanes are good?

[thorn oak]

If you are just starting steel path primary merciless will probably get you through

[fierce lark]

blight or frostbite

[thorn oak]

but yea those are good on the cedo as well

[fierce lark]

merciless and deadhead do very little on the cedo, the passive + savvy give a large portion of additive base damage as is

[thorn oak]

Well beginning steel path he would be fine

and assuming he probably wouldnt have blight or frostbite

[fierce lark]

cedo is one of the only guns where i wouldn't recommend shelling out 35-40p for an adapter + acolyte arcane because they will have low impact

im still playtesting different builds but this is what i've landed on so far

[thorn oak]

I think viral heat feels better unless you are playing someone who can prime enemies

[fierce lark]

swap point blank for a cold mod (primed or frigid blast) and make viral electric

and get a decent priming companion, it will help magnitudes

[cinder quartz]

okay i have a primed chilling grasp

priming companion?

[fierce lark]

if you have primed cold mod you can make corrosive cold as well, thats what im using

[fierce lark]

what companion are you running

[cinder quartz]

helminth charger

[fierce lark]

do you have a panzer vulpaphyla? or any of the parvos hounds?

[cinder quartz]

nah hes my only one apart from taxon

[fierce lark]

wait wtf

when you did howl of the kubrow, did it give you a helminth charger???

[cinder quartz]

yeah

[fierce lark]

i didn't even know that was possible lmao

but yeah charger is uh

rather unremarkable as far as companions go

generic kubrow with no particularly useful gimmick

[cinder quartz]

damn

[fierce lark]

what rank are you with Fortuna?

[cinder quartz]

3

[fierce lark]

solaris united*

pain

[cinder quartz]

i can do all the steel path version of missions easy its just the star chart i cant kill one dude

[fierce lark]

is it the guy who pops up and has an ominous name and a boss health bar?

[cinder quartz]

idk i havent got that yet, i havent gone past e - prime on earth yet

[fierce lark]

am confused what you meant by this

anyway corrosive + primed cold mod with everything at least rank 8 should make easy work of low lvl grineer if you're actually using the alt fire to prime

[cinder quartz]

okay i will trade the primed point blank for primed chilling grasp and see if that makes a difference

thank you @fierce lark + @thorn oak for the advice 🙂

[fierce lark]

this is what your gun should be doing

granted i have frostbite and all the mods are maxed, but also these are lvl 200 heavy gunners rather than lvl 100 troopers and butchers

plus no buffs or companion

[cinder quartz]

oh mad

yeah mine are level 105 grineer lancers and i cant do anything

[odd bough]

Are stubbas good

[autumn pebble]

Someone want my vauban build idk who so i will leave my build here

[autumn pebble]

Nope

[odd bough]

Brev

[fierce lark]

take a short gameplay clip if you can, also show build one more time

[cinder quartz]

this is it now

i need to upgrade chilling grasp

[fierce lark]

you need to re-order the mods

[cinder quartz]

huh

[fierce lark]

what you have is making magnetic toxin, which is garbage vs grineer

swap the cold and toxin mods

with each other

mods combine in the order they're placed, going in reading order

[humble flame]

Is 3 tauforged toxic dmg green shards overkill on saryn

[fierce lark]

so if you arrange them like
cold
electric toxin

you'll get magnetic + toxin

if you do
toxin
electric cold

you get corrosive + cold

conversely if you were to do
toxin
cold electric

you would get viral + electricity, which is good for general use but corrosive cold is a little better vs grineer on a raw dmg-based weapon

[cinder quartz]

ah okay well this is it now then

[fierce lark]

you can move polarities btw

[cinder quartz]

wdym move them?

[fierce lark]

like swap the polarity on primed chilling grasp back to where magnetic strafe or toxic barrage is

swap polarity button

[cinder quartz]

oh yeah nice

thank

i need better survivability bruh my mesa prime is getting messed up

[hollow mantle]

Shatter Shields is the immortality button

[fierce lark]

adaptation + shatter shield should make you take almost 0 damage through the entirety of steel path

[thorn oak]

the boar is so busted

the sobek is just not good by itself

[kind compass]

Bruh…. 950 hrs and i didnt think of that

[karmic badger]

Nah sobek is good, hybrid crit status with acid shells

[thorn oak]

its good, not by itself

[kind compass]

Shield gate mesa works too

[cinder quartz]

i use shatter shields but i end up not having enough energy to use it again and then im stuck dying and not getting enough energy to use it xD

[kind compass]

I run cata shields, adaptation and rolling guard along with iirc 1-2 shield recharge delay mods

[karmic badger]

Just put fortifier on her regulators...

Free overguard

[fierce lark]

i can survive ETA with just adaptation and shatter shield, 99.5% damage reduction is pretty hard to get through

[kind compass]

Prevision intensify buffs her 4 which can realitically be the onky thing u use

[kind compass]

It can get taken down fairly frequently in harder modes

In my experience

[fierce lark]

you have to have some incredibly low kpm if you're ever losing fortifier overguard

[karmic badger]

Honestly my mesa has like a 90% regulator uptime

[thorn oak]

saryn what element do u use with the bubonico considering the alt fire procs viral

[fierce lark]

haven't used it

[kind compass]

Idk sometimes the descendia screws me over

[karmic badger]

Magnetic and corrosive?

[fierce lark]

nothing should live long enough to be able to do any noticeable amount of damage to you, fortifier should be able to solo survivability

it's pretty much a stronger version of circumvent which is tried and tested to be able to solo survivability at any level of current intended content

[cinder quartz]

what should i change out adaptation for?

[karmic badger]

Constitution, least useful

[fierce lark]

rolling guard, or constitution

also you should try to get arcane velocity at some point

[kind compass]

Constitution

[cinder quartz]

okay

[fierce lark]

and please please get corrosive projection

pistol amp is worthless

[karmic badger]

Combat discipline and avenger

[kind compass]

Honestly even doubling up on rolling guard isnt necessary but helpful

I also have remedium subsumed for an extra layer of survivability, that is when fortifier doesnt work for some reason.

Tbh u can get rid of any 2 methods of survivability I mentioned and still probably be fine

[fierce lark]

disco avenger will do significantly less damage to anything with armor than corroproj, and is taking up an arcane slot

[tawdry trail]

precision is the headshot one, did you mean velocity?

[fierce lark]

uh yeah

[cinder quartz]

okay i will xD

[kind compass]

Tbh it doesnt matter much

Mesa nukes rooms quickly asf anyways

But yes minmaxing her damage is very satisfying

[fierce lark]

you can copy this, substitute anything over hotshot and substitute anything over archon vitality (it's not even good im just too lazy to change it)

blind rage on mesa is not worth the extra strength and is potentially crippling

i don't think it's worth, in any case

[night laurel]

can corroborate, blind rage on mesa just makes her constantly energy starved

by the time you can get peacemaker running its guzzled the rest of your energy down to nothing

[severe bough]

U shouldnt have any energy problems with her anyways

U cast 123 all 60 secs

And 4 on an off

[fierce lark]

strength is additive to base damage at 1.5x effectiveness anyways so it doesn’t do a whole lot + you’re usually running precision intensify so the relative strength gain isn’t huge

[severe bough]

Thats true tho if i would tend to run pos efficiency brespite/ augur mods wouldnt work in one cast ( even tho im playing with fort which basically sloves all surv issues ) i like to always be in neg efficiency and tbf theres nothing much on her to mod lot duration str and mabye some range if u feel like using muzzle flash

[cinder quartz]

i assume archon vitality is from archon hunt event?

[coral crest]

It's from Kahl/Veilbreaker

[severe bough]

And muzzle flash is actually quite nice tho i rarely run no subsume

[fierce lark]

it’s from kahl’s garrison but don’t use it on mesa

[cinder quartz]

ah okay

[severe bough]

Kahl at drifters camp

[fierce lark]

very little of her damage is from actual heat procs

[fierce lark]

i'd sooner run augur secrets over blind rage tbh, im not shield gating anyway so i really don't care about having neg eff

nothing lives long enough to do enough damage to be a threat, and if it does shatter shield + adapt is usually enough

and shockingly the sizeable health pool from archon vitality with the stacking DR is actually relevant

[fierce lark]

i would say i dont like blind rage on exalteds but half of them barely use energy or get archon stretch regen while they're using it

[severe bough]

Yep im just shield gating addicated i often get in such Situation where i happen to find shield gating pretty pretty important

[severe bough]

Uriel sobek?

[thorn oak]

nova

[severe bough]

Nova

[fierce lark]

i used to shield gate on mesa

and then i learned how broken shatter shield actually is if you stack it with anything else

so i threw on adaptation and realized "lmao nothing is killing me"

[severe bough]

Does that work?

[thorn oak]

Yes

[severe bough]

Im so cooked i almost got 6 builds for cyte including 2 arbi builds tho bruh i knew the times where ive said i will never use any forma arcanes or second configs 💀

That has like nothing to do with that topic tho

[thorn oak]

how much am i actually benefitting with elementalist

[fierce lark]

a lot

[cinder quartz]

for mesa's 1 ability which out of pillage and nourish would be better?

to helminth

[thorn oak]

its so confusing to me how elementalist works compared to just normal point blank

[fierce lark]

nourish

cancelling out of regulators to press pillage every new pack sounds like the worst gameplay experience of all time

[thorn oak]

point blank makes the status do more damage, but shotgun elementalist makes it do more damage in a different way

[tawdry trail]

yeah you got it

[cinder quartz]

damn okay xD i just spent so much time getting hildryn too, but if its better then i would prefer it

[thorn oak]

i dont get it

i know elementalist is multiplicative

[tawdry trail]

pillage still a good option to have

not necessarily for mesa but other frames make good use of it

[fierce lark]

well there you go

[cinder quartz]

ah okay, not a waste then xD

[fierce lark]

you can either get primed point blank, which is 165% that is adding onto the already existing 400% you're getting from galv savvy

or you can get elementalist, which is multiplying onto the 400% from galvanized savvy and everything else

plus some mag size because elementalist is cool

[coral crest]

SEE

I was correct

health tank mesa is the one

her passive was here all along, to guide us

[fierce lark]

what i dont understand is like

how corrosive cold suddenly feels like the best mod combo on every primary

what happened

[coral crest]

the government cut funding for the viral/heat psyop towers to invest more into chatgpt

[modern yoke]

Alright, let's get this Unranked Yareli build started

[fierce lark]

aaaaand we've already crippled it

[thorn oak]

pistol amp is an odd thing to use

[modern yoke]

Default... Polarity... Best thing I have for her...

[modern yoke]

You're seriously going to be rude...

[thorn oak]

I dont think its being rude I think they are moreso saying its just not a good start

[modern yoke]

It's 100% being rude

Basic definition infact

[thorn oak]

We all take things differently

[fierce lark]

it was a joke, relax

im shitting on pistol amp

[modern yoke]

Ah yes, backtracking

Listen, I put up with so much already

[coral crest]

It's not that serious D:

[thorn oak]

🤦‍♂️

[coral crest]

Chill

[modern yoke]

So I really don't need jokes that aren't actually jokes when I already have to deal with a lot, especially when I'm stressed and just looking forward to getting to play a Frame I worked hard to unlock and craft

[coral crest]

I understand that it's a difficult time for you, but don't blame others for setting you off

Can't read minds you know

No need to make it our problem as well, we can communicate together and not throw poop at each other for no reason :3

So let's talk builds

[modern yoke]

They should also know better than to shit on someone's Mod choice, it's just common sense, and now I feel discouraged because of that "joke"

Anyway... Yeah, let's...

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

They didn't meant to.

It's ok

I know nothing about Yareli though

[modern yoke]

Might as well just go to bed and try again tomorrow then, just going to slap Equilibrium on her and call it a night

Hold on, I need to post a different SS

Alright, there we go

[coral crest]

[fierce lark]

lol

anyway

[fierce lark]

i apologize, my message was not meant to come off as rude, it was to be a humorous attempt at conveying how bad pistol amp is, at no fault of your own, if it's all you have then it's all you have

[thorn oak]

Why do these scams keep coming in

They don’t even have correct grammar either that’s so funny

[modern yoke]

Yeah... It's the only Aura Mod of her base polarity I have that has synergy with her too... Anyway... Going to sleep...

[thorn oak]

That’s aura

[old marsh]

someone left the door open

[karmic badger]

That's the point, it filters out anyone with braincells. So the only ones who click are those dumb enough to go all the way

[granite ginkgo]

<@&778745217037238293>

[heady fog]

nami solo enjoyers, which one?

both are mediocre it seems but which one is less mediocre XD

[quiet laurel]

Right is pretty good

-slash is pretty big

[remote island]

hello everyone im new here i wanted some advice regarding my builds as im a new player

so im mr 6 and use a bolotor and broken war

[heady fog]

yea but is that worth sacrificing range and cd?

[remote island]

but i cant seem to do enough damage in the deimos bounty quests and keep dying

[fierce lark]

4 good positives > 2 good positives, usually

[remote island]

some advice would plz

[late hemlock]

Id probably take right one easy? Makes weighting for electric way easier and all the positives are good

[heady fog]

cool

thanks for the advice yall ❤️

going with right

[fierce lark]

show builds

[glass rampart]

i wouldnt worry about optimizing builds for now tbh

youre mr6 and youre going to be trashing the boltor and stashing the broken war soon enough as you get better weapons

just focus on getting better mods first

[remote island]

These are the builds sorry abt the photos I play on switch

[vapid crane]

What frame are you running these with?

[fierce lark]

yeah i knew it

[fierce lark]

both of your weapons are modded purely for viral

most deimos infested are immune to viral

[remote island]

Excalibur

[remote island]

Well ya these work well on any enemy in game

[fierce lark]

it does

just not the ones in the cambion drift

[remote island]

I didn't know that dang

[fierce lark]

yeah i don't think it's documented in-game anywhere, not something you know unless you look it up

[vapid crane]

Yeah they have different elemental matchups compared to the normal Deimos infested

Iirc they’re weak to gas?

[remote island]

So what do I do now

[fierce lark]

switch to gas/blast

[vapid crane]

Swap either the cold or toxin for heat

[remote island]

Oh ok thanks for the advice

Is excalibur good for the infested on deimos

[vapid crane]

What are your other options?

[remote island]

I have rino ember dagath

Volt and zephyr in foundry

[vapid crane]

Rhino is always gonna be a solid choice if you want more weapon focus.

Infested in general throw around a lot of toxin stacks, so the overguard from Ironskin is nice. And Roar is a great weapon buff.

[remote island]

Oh ok ig I'll try it out also my rihno has this like red bubble on its neck what is that

[vapid crane]

Oh thats to access the quest for another frame

Nidus, don’t worry about it

It’s just a funky little visual thing that relates to Nidus.

[remote island]

Huh but I didn't get any quest

[vapid crane]

Oh actually nvm, it’s only loosely lore related to him. It’s actually used to get a specific animal companion

If you have a Kubrow in the process of hatching, you can expend the cyst to turn it into a hybrid infested kubrow

[remote island]

Oh ok thanks but is it stronger

[vapid crane]

Depends on your goal, most of the companions are for different purposes.

The Helminth Charger (the hybrid infested kubrow) is a decently tanky AoE damage companion

And has a unique set of (kinda rarer) mods mostly designed around improving the function of health based frames, like the previously mentioned Nidus

[velvet pulsar]

If only they left it unnerfed.
It would've provided free ability cast every 5s to almost all frames.

[twin wave]

Why does the armor and healing from chroma feel so much worse than the armor and healing from Oberon? My chroma has MORE armor and 20% of damage dealt as healing from the augment should be a lot but it feels worse somehow. Thoughts?

[velvet pulsar]

1. What healing? Chroma has healing ability?
2. He doesn't have status immunity to make things as comfortable as Oberon.

[twin wave]

His augment provides healing. Also I have Titanias ability in him so he is immune to status. Over all I feel like he should feel and do better but doesn’t.

[velvet pulsar]

There's also Well of Life which provides both healing and status immunity with just one subsume.

[twin wave]

I’ll check that one out I just dont usually stay still in Warframe. I feel like his armor needs to be buffed in some way. having +1400% armor plus healing and then getting destroyed in the first 10 minutes of a survival if I stop bullet jumping feels awful. Chroma gives and gets armor. Oberon does the same. Oberon has flat healing per second. Chroma has percentage healing over 3 seconds(with augment). I don’t feel like survivability should feel that different between them.

[earnest saddle]

chroma is very dated, and is hopefully next in line for a rework

[twin wave]

The thing is they did rework him a little bit when his newest augment came out and it still feels bad. As far as full reworks go I pray equinox comes up soon. I need the kit to be touched up so the energy economy isn’t so abysmal

[late hemlock]

The augment healing is like really bad, just use a different healing source

[granite ginkgo]

any1 can share their revenant rave build?

[late hemlock]

For raving just press 4

[granite ginkgo]

reave

[digital merlin]

is Stradavar Prime viable at level cap or does it lack the punch?

[covert hill]

Hey everyone. I am trying to build a Kuva Sobek for my saryn and I have a riven but I know really know what stats to roll for rivens as this is the first one I might actually use. Can I have any advice?

[mortal gyro]

guys how much can this go for?

[hybrid bolt]

anyone got a build for hate

[hard dove]

Ms/fr/dmg/tox with harmless neg like zoom for example

[late hemlock]

Guys shoud i roll this or build around it? Im early steelpath and i got this riven for my telos boltor

[solar reef]

There are similar rolls for around 2500-2700, but you’ll struggle to actually get it sold with that negative

-Grineer is a huge ick to Cascaders

[quiet laurel]

to people in general

cause grineer more of the tanky enemies we have

(they fall over from breathing at them but still)

[solar reef]

i dont really take other folks in to count when it comes to hyper-expensive rivens

or at least for something like cycron

[quiet laurel]

thing is cascade and other endgame rivens are mostly sold within the gamemodes community, hard to sell it if you an outsider

and if you try to sell within the community no one buys cause no one plays cycron

[solar reef]

People always want to sell, but never consider if people want to buy

[quiet laurel]

best bet, like with many rivens is fishing on trade chat for months

[solar reef]

thats why I never roll anything I dont want to use myself, unless its for an incarnon or smthn

my sleeper riven to roll/flip is wolf sledge 🤫

[quiet laurel]

cant wait for the android release so I can trade max while not being home

[late hemlock]

Can any1 maybe give some advice on my question?

[solar reef]

Do you enjoy Boltor Incarnon?

If yes? Sure roll it

But no, you should not build weapons around a riven

[quiet laurel]

boltor is good with its incarnon so if you enjoy the weapon I'd say not a bad idea to roll

[quiet laurel]

I mean, sometimes you do

and other times you are forced to like me

[solar reef]

you get what I mean though

you shouldnt pick up a weapon and build around simply because you got a riven for it

[quiet laurel]

ah you mean it that way

[late hemlock]

I dont have incarnon version rn, but im using telos boltor and im enjoying it

[solar reef]

A common issue i see with people who are new to rivens is they want to invest deeply into the most random dog ass rivens thinking it will give them an insane weapon or huge plat profit

[late hemlock]

I just thought what if i end up with worse stats and run out of kuva to get something better

[solar reef]

you dont have to take worse rolls

you get the option to keep the current roll

what you have isnt great though

it forces you into corrosive, pretty much

[quiet laurel]

I always feel bad for the people being insanely happy about a bubonico riven for the coda bubonico, not realizing that they'll need to spend hundreds of rolls to get a usable roll

[solar reef]

MS/CD/Tox 🤑

or do you want elect

[late hemlock]

Yeah, thats the thing, as i woud like to make viral instead

[solar reef]

i forget with bubonico

[quiet laurel]

idk I dont play bubonico

[late hemlock]

But is corrosive bad?

[solar reef]

its good

[quiet laurel]

last time I used bubonico was before armor rework with hunter munitions and got my first lvl cap with it

[solar reef]

you just dont want to be forced into it

For example, if later on you play a frame that has built in armor strip, corrosive is functionally useless

so you want to be able to swap it freely

thats why you want Tox, as it lets you swap between Viral and Corrosive at will

for future reference, these are what you’d look for on a Boltor riven

[mortal gyro]

whre do i check like this?

[late hemlock]

Im using Frost prime, so pretty much yeah, its useless actually

[solar reef]

Warframe Market Place

[late hemlock]

Might as well reroll then

[solar reef]

Like I said, you’ll have an incredibly difficult time selling it

[mortal gyro]

ohhh

[solar reef]

I’d settle for 2000 plat and move on, myself

[mortal gyro]

aw man

[mortal gyro]

that would be more than enough for me

[solar reef]

Your best bet would be to just throw it on trade chat and hope somebody buys it

The first offer you get that makes you think “good enough!”

take it

[mortal gyro]

okkkk

[solar reef]

otherwise you’ll sit for months making nothing

[mortal gyro]

okk bro thanks a lot

[quiet laurel]

WTS Torid groll recoil, cd, dmg, -fr 10k

[solar reef]

9k and a mortus lung fish

[dusky hatch]

does seimic bond work with titania ?

[quiet laurel]

two lung fishes I'd take but 1 is not enough

[quiet laurel]

was that ability efficiency per companion attack?

[coral crest]

I wonder how much of a buff coda bubonico is

Some footage shown it having like 90 ammo

[dusky hatch]

yes

[quiet laurel]

if I had to guess alt fire has better crit stats

[quiet laurel]

her companion isnt there when she is in 4 so no

[coral crest]

Why did it have to be quanta to get a tenet version

[dusky hatch]

so the clone from duplex doesnt count ?

[coral crest]

Ffs

[undone dust]

duplex clones dont proc bond mods

[dusky hatch]

i see ty

[late hemlock]

What about this one?

[deep grotto]

It would probably be nicer if it had a negative

[solar reef]

you can, at the least, run the viral you wanted now

but yeah i would keep that roll forever

[steep acorn]

Aside from the obvious levelling mods and arcanes, is this build fine? (Jade Glory build)

[solar reef]

IMO the absolute perfect roll would be +MS,CD,SC/-Recoil

SC can really be swapped with any of the other +’s here

But MS and CD are musts

[late hemlock]

I coud roll couple more times see if i get anything better

If its worse keep this roll

[solar reef]

dont expect great results, but do cross your fingers

I’m like 400+ into my nami solo hunt

[late hemlock]

💩

[hollow mirage]

for slam builds do I have to wait until the combo meter reaches its max then slam?

[deep grotto]

At least you can still run viral lmao

[deep grotto]

If you want to heavy slam, that is

[hollow mirage]

alr

[late hemlock]

Guys what abt this one?

[covert hill]

which would be better for a saryn platform built sobek? I dont know rivens at all. This is the first time rolling to try and use one.

[fierce lark]

the only rollable stats that affect toxic lash acid shells are +toxin and +faction

so honestly the best stats are probably +tox +grineer +fr with harmless neg

[covert hill]

multishot wouldnt be benifical for the extra hits?

[fierce lark]

wouldn’t do anything for acid shells, outside of tox faction you’d be looking for generically good stats to make getting the first kill a little easier

ms dmg sc fr, maybe cc cd depending on what build you’re doing

you want +toxin regardless

[deep grotto]

Negative damage against grineer is kind of stinky

[late hemlock]

Yes i know

[deep grotto]

Crit good tho

[covert hill]

ok thank you

[late hemlock]

But those cd and cc stats are huge, maybe i coud throw in bane of grineer, in the build

to somewhat cancel out the negative

But i think its worth taking over my previous roll

[deep grotto]

Yeah that’s some tasty crit as i said

[covert hill]

would this be better then?

[late hemlock]

53 rolls, gah dayum

[fierce lark]

better than anything prior

[late hemlock]

If it woudnt have that negative, dang it woud be strong

but i can work with it i think

[midnight horizon]

should i choose it

[fierce lark]

for the funny yes

[late hemlock]

The entire idea is that you build around initial combo buffs and just spam the slam with that

Would be incredibly inefficient to try and build up each slam

[fierce lark]

initial combo still takes time to regenerate to whatever the value is, which afaik is not just visual and you do actually have to wait for full dmg

[hollow mirage]

no no I have corrupt charge and galv reflex on my magistar, it reaches up to 8x combo multiplier with blood rush on it so im asking if I should wait until my combo mulltiplier reaches 8x then heavy slam

[hollow mirage]

ah okay

[left hare]

that is so gross
do it

[covert hill]

ok how about this?

[midnight horizon]

yup i did

[fierce lark]

yeah IC regenerates at 40/s

so if you had an initial combo of 140+ and just galv reflex, you’d have to make sure you’re waiting at least like 2x between slams

[midnight horizon]

doing max 104k damage

with some 1 mil tiks

[fierce lark]

eh, corpus are already weak and have no hp, bane isn’t really that helpful

[covert hill]

so worse?

[late hemlock]

What shoud i throw in, or maybe change up

[fierce lark]

it’s not like saryn sobek needs help anyway you’re probably better off going for good stats (not that toxin isn’t a good stat)

[solar reef]

Bare in mind, Kuva Sobek has an absolutely attrocious dispo

[solar reef]

Tox is literally the single most beneficial stat on a sobek riven

[modern vale]

Heated discussion

[solar reef]

Its disposition is so dookie balls that anything other than elemental damage is meh

[modern vale]

You all

[fierce lark]

you are replying to a msg in which i said toxin is a good stat xd

[fierce lark]

saryn spends more time getting the initial kill than it takes for acid shells to kill everything else on rivenless

tox dmg riven is there purely for fun

[solar reef]

i was replying in agreeance

[fierce lark]

oh ok

actually with a good enough riven you can swap to regular sobek for bigger acid shells

[solar reef]

or so i’m told
but imo you’d need an absolute god roll to justify it

[fierce lark]

kuva stats doesn’t actually help dot chains afaik

[near vortex]

yeah the progenitor doesn't affect it

[slow trellis]

hey, i got semi-shotgun cannonade and i dont know how to apply it onto my corinth. can anyone gimme a mod loadout? this is what im currently running

riven is +dmg +cc

[fierce lark]

is the corinth even a semi shotgun?

[vapid crane]

Yes

[slow trellis]

of course it is

[fierce lark]

it would just replace primed point blank then

also you should run a tox mod instead of armaments, pure magnetic is kinda memes unless you're only shooting thrax with it

[slow trellis]

isnt it good to stack damage?

you can use ppb and cannonade at once

[fierce lark]

quite the opposite

[fading nebula]

Primed Point Blank can stay, just ditch armaments for cannonade

[slow trellis]

thought multishot was good

[fierce lark]

it is, but armaments doesn't give enough of it to be good

[late hemlock]

generally putting too much stock in one stat means you get diminishing returns

you only have so many mod slots

[fierce lark]

it's bad to stack the same types of damage

ie 3 different sources of base damage, each one you add has a lower relative effect than the rest

different sources of increasing damage multiply off of each other

base damage is multiplied by multishot, which are both multiplied by crit chance, which are all multiplied by crit damage, which are all multiplied by fire rate, which are all multiplied by elemental damage etc etc

[fading nebula]

Honestly I'm seeing too many crit chance mods there

[late hemlock]

ravage is cdmg not chance

[fierce lark]

riven has cc

if you have the room, 2 sources of crit chance is usually fine, getting to at least 100% removes the lowroll chance of not critting

if you're running cannonade then you don't need room for a fire rate mod so that becomes a flexible slot, ie for a riven

[slow trellis]

tbh chilling reload was mostly there cuz of filler since i cba to forma rn and it was 5/60

[fading nebula]

Well then you can just replace that then

[fierce lark]

this is what i would change

if you have primed chilling grasp that would also be a huge benefit

[slow trellis]

i think i have that, but not ranked

[fierce lark]

if not, chilling reload/frigid blast are interchangeable, probably frigid is better

if you have it you should rank it, corrosive+cold with 2 primed elementals and primary frostbite is disgusting

[slow trellis]

oh, no i dont have primed chilling, unfortunately. maybe next time kiteer comes?

[slow trellis]

are 60/60s better than 90s?

[fading nebula]

I prefer the 60/60s

Status chance is good

[velvet pulsar]

Someone tell me, is there absolutely any valid reason why Blood Altar mag cannot be replaced with Well of Life mag?

[slow trellis]

how do i make it corrosive + cold?

[fierce lark]

if it's a status weapon, and it's your primary damage element (heat/elec usually) and it's at the end of your build, so you're doing viral+heat or corrosive+heat etc, then you usually want the mod at the end to be 90

in like...any other case, 165 > 60/60 > 90

[slow trellis]

no matter what i do, it just becomes toxin + magnetic

[fierce lark]

don't do corrosive cold with a 60 cold mod, just do viral electric

[slow trellis]

ah

[fierce lark]

if you swapped barrage and frigid blast it would become corrosive+cold

what you should do though is swap barrage and ravage

[slow trellis]

yeah, i did that

[fading nebula]

I'd suggest replacing electric with heat

[slow trellis]

hm, why?

[fierce lark]

replacing primed elec with non-primed heat is sus

[slow trellis]

do shotguns even have primed heat?

[fierce lark]

no, only pistols

[fading nebula]

Viral + heat > viral + electric

[fierce lark]

that's just not true unless you're teching specifically vs armor with no strip and you have too low of damage to kill within ~2s

and if you're worried about dmg vs armor then you go pure corrosive

primary fire corinth doesn't do much status damage anyways

[slow trellis]

is it possible to do an alt fire build for corinth?

[fierce lark]

probably

it reverses the crit & status so the same builds probably don't work for both

[slow trellis]

yeah, but like

if you made a status build

with galvanized savvy and such

or is that too meme-y

[fading nebula]

I run viral as my main damage type with heat secondary

[fierce lark]

savvy doesn't work, and if im reading this right it actually causes the airburst to not explode at all and do nothing

idk if that's a bug with savvy or the gun in general just doesn't explode on direct contact

but either way savvy doesn't work on radials so 👎

[novel bear]

Depends on if you want raw damage or status
90s are usually for weapons with bad status output

[slow trellis]

it never explodes on direct contact

you reactivate it and it goes boom

you must be thinking of corinth normal, which explodes after a set distance. corinth good explodes after reactivation

also, what would be ideal stats for my corinth riven? gonna reroll it at some point but idk what else i want. cd? maybe toxin?

[fierce lark]

60s are still usually better than 90s, increased consistency of viral/corrosive procs tend to outweigh the relative ~12% elemental increase when you already have 285% from your two 60s and a primed mod

[novel bear]

Not if you have 5% status chance and low as/fr

[fierce lark]

it depends on the gun

if it's killing everything in literally 1 bullet then yeah status chance isn't helping

[novel bear]

Better to just offload viral to companions atp

[novel bear]

Pretty sure that’s what I said

[fierce lark]

insert something with low status and high fire rate idk

[slow trellis]

if i wanna roll for an element on my riven, what should i be getting?

[velvet pulsar]

Unless the status is electric, gas, or blast, because AoE and because gas and electric proc damage begin at 0th second.

[slow trellis]

vectis prime build vs eidolons. should i swap anything?

[velvet pulsar]

Primed... Chamber...

[slow trellis]

yeah if i had one

[velvet pulsar]

[slow trellis]

but y'know i dont have 200-300 plat for that

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna wait for Tennocon Baro.

Hopefully someone in my contacts will buy his access.

[hexed coyote]

With modding alone(before valance formation) my cedo has, explosive, rad, magnetic, viral and all base elements, what element should I infuse with my valance formation?

[velvet pulsar]

Does it have innate blast?

[hexed coyote]

Glaive does

[velvet pulsar]

Or was that what u meant with "explosive"

Ok

[hexed coyote]

Blast is the name ahh

[velvet pulsar]

So valence formation should have either more blast or corrosive.

[fading nebula]

Corrosive for sure

[velvet pulsar]

Corrosive because armor and stuff

But more blast because it might allow u to stack 10 blast procs on the alt fire itself.

Even if the alt fire cannot, any enemies which survive then can be shot via primary fire, where each pellet will force blast.

Hence even more easier 10× stacks.

[ebon valve]

Guys what frame and gun should i use for a good rocket launcher build that wipes the map

[nocturne spindle]

Mirage and kuva zarr/ogris?

[ebon valve]

Ok I’ll try it

[reef haven]

Local man makes heinous Ivara build. Asked to leave the simulacrum

[fierce lark]

mmm image compression

[hexed coyote]

Grineer, orokin and scaldra corrosive, everything else is blast?

What does @fierce lark Think?

[fierce lark]

if this is about valence formation idk, not really a lavos player

having corrosive/viral valence though can make your gun less functional

it adds +200% modded damage with status weighting on top of the guaranteed proc, so you might get too much viral weighting if you're looking for heat/elec procs as an example

guaranteed blast procs is always good

[modern yoke]

Morning guys, Unranked Yareli build time

[quiet laurel]

loyal merulina, energy economy, efficiency

[modern yoke]

That's it?

[quiet laurel]

for an unraked one yeah

I assume you dont have much space

but the rest would be some duration, maybe some strength and some range

and casting speed shards to make merulina casting more comfy

[nocturne spindle]

imma big fan of merulina guardian

[quiet laurel]

all my homies hate riding merulina

can we get an augment to ride yareli already

[nocturne spindle]

i like it :(

[mighty flare]

Get augment to make her 4 move around with merulina

[quiet laurel]

peak

imagine good grouping on the grouping frame

[nova swift]

you havent lived until you played merulina guardian with a max fire rate pax charge sporelacer

red crits everywhere, your mag size becomes your burst size

[modern yoke]

I don't have access to Shards

How's this look so far?

[fierce lark]

if you ride merulina during normal gameplay, defensive stats don't help much, so vigor can go

[modern yoke]

Well, I need to GET to Merulina 1st, also for her initial Augment I'm thinking Merulina Guardian, because the idea of getting rid of riding it just doesn't sit right with me

[fierce lark]

either or is fine, the movement is going to take awhile to get used to

[quiet laurel]

counterargument, loyal merulina bubbles and your bubbles stack multiplicatively and work on cc immune enemies

[modern yoke]

Then again, if I'm careful(Or just use Hirudo) then I'll get to Merulina no problem

[fierce lark]

i dont think you can melee while riding

[modern yoke]

Read the message again, lol

[karmic slate]

hi, i am a returning player didnt play for about 7 to 10 years and got my acc restricted from trading but that i want to know is your opinion of my build i am currently squichy a bit and my weapon isnt great so what do you think

[modern yoke]

How did you get restricted from trading?

[karmic slate]

due to inactivity probably

im not sure honestly i havent done any suspicious activity

[versed harbor]

nah wont be inactivity

do you have 2fa on and the other requirements for trading?

[modern yoke]

Yeah, that might be it

7-10 Years sounds like you may need to enable 2FA

[turbid sedge]

what improvements could I go for for this? Aiming for a more general setup for now at least. Thinking Clip Delegation over Primed Point Blank and possibly Shotgun Barrage for something else

[late hemlock]

The most important question is what frame would be using this

Thats what dictates the entire setup

[turbid sedge]

Zephyr at the moment, but the likes of Oraxia, Uriel and Saryn are on the table for this

[late hemlock]

I dont remember if Zephyr is able to capitalize on acid shells in any way?

For the other frames you want to mod heavily into the status damage they would be inflicting as its what helps the acid shells chain kills (so toxin for the toxin frames, etc)

[turbid sedge]

tornadoes, mainly (explosion chain reactions).

Fair point on the others though, it's matching the progen with the frame too right? Like switching to Toxin for Saryn/Oraxia

[late hemlock]

The progenitor doesnt come into play

[turbid sedge]

oh right I didn't see your last bit 😅

[late hemlock]

You need modded elemental damage and status damage

[turbid sedge]

shotgun elementalist then?

[thorn oak]

I think zephyr does work with acid shells

[late hemlock]

Id imagine the tornadoes chain it i just haven't use Zephyr in almost literally a decade

[late hemlock]

Yeah or galvanized for a slight tradeoff works

[turbid sedge]

yeah it's tornadoes iirc, chain reactions from tornado damage and what have you

[clear island]

i need som input or correction 🙂 im i doing it right ? im Koumei and i focus on spreading status. here is my frame and Natarak / melee wep

[stable plover]

any of these used in any builds for these weapons or should i endo them?(other than the ones i upgraded of course)

far right is the Zarr

[late hemlock]

Basically the acid shells explosion trigger the dot again so you want to scale up the dot so it kills and chains

[turbid sedge]

would that be galv accel? already have hell and savvy on the build. Shottie elementalist in for point blank?

[thorn oak]

this is what I have on mine

[late hemlock]

Accel is purely qol its an exilus mod

Mine doesn't have the exilus unlocked lol

[clear turret]

can sb give me a vinquibus build please

[thorn oak]

and with crux u can probably swap scattering inferno for just regular heat mod so u have more

[clear turret]

especially for melee

[late hemlock]

Can't run both

Wait no im thinking of another weapon class

My b did an oopsie

[turbid sedge]

sometimes I forget that sobek has solid status chance, will have to give crux a look

[thorn oak]

I ran a conjunction survival on steel path with mine for 20 minutes just killing away with nova and the sobek, then realized I had an extinguished dragon key on the whole time

so id say its pretty good considering I didnt realize the giant damage nerf I had on

[late hemlock]

This is my saryn setup atm for example

[turbid sedge]

makes sense if you want to build into the status damage the frame deals

would zephyr want anything in particular or better to aim for something more general?

[late hemlock]

Just general since she cant affect the acid shells output

Just eat it with nados

[thorn oak]

zephyrs tornadoes work with acid shells

so if u shoot an enemy in the tornado it hits all the enemies in the tornado and other tornadoes

which might be another reason to run blast since the enemies would be grouped up, blast would kill them all

[turbid sedge]

yeah looked like it when I gave the current build a whirl in the simulacrum earlier

blast is a shout

[late hemlock]

Probably better off going viral so you get the initial kill faster? Acid shells gets rolling after 1 kill so blast sound kinda redundant?

[thorn oak]

Blast kills multiple enemies which causes acid shells to go off more

eventually you would reach the same conclusion but blast would speed up killing everything

[versed harbor]

acid shells kills everything alone usually fr

[late hemlock]

By definition acid shells does not do anything alone

It must be run with some kind of synergy

[thorn oak]

and also @turbid sedge instead of barrage u could use reinforced bond depending on what companion u have

[versed harbor]

alone without blast

[turbid sedge]

hound at the moment (Hec, Garmr, Urga). Something like Nautilus Prime with Calculated Redirection hits the threshold right?

[thorn oak]

blast makes a chain reaction with acid shells

[thorn oak]

honestly im not 100% sure, but the threshold is 1200

[late hemlock]

As far as sentinels its just Nautilus and wyrm

[turbid sedge]

yeah just gave it a look, maxed calculated redirection puts the shields at 1225

1190 on the current hound with the same mod

[karmic slate]

i have 2fa only

[turbid sedge]

wiki to the rescue. Companion needs 343 base shields min with a max rank calculated redirection to hit the 1200 threshold

think I've got a panzer vulp lying around that I've never used, might be time to level it up and get something together for it

[karmic slate]

but what about the saryn build...can it run kuva lich lvl 5?

[late hemlock]

This looks like a spore / miasma build not something you would try to tackle bosses with

[karmic slate]

its supposed to be a venom dose build but im missing venom dose

[late hemlock]

Why did you get do much range then?

No reason to hurt strength with overextended when you aren't using range for anything

[karmic slate]

range for spores and ult to spread more spores?

Like i said i havent played for 7 to 10 years and i left my build like this so any suggestion is welcomed i want to play my fav frame like the old days 🙂

[fierce lark]

high range is for stripping/tagging enemies in endurance missions, it's not gonna help much for lich hunts

you want as much strength as you can get and whatever duration you can fit after that

miasma is a mediocre button in general and usually gets subsumed for roar

[karmic slate]

hmmm what benifit will str and duration give me...more survivability or damage?

[abstract axle]

levelcap health tank saryn. (Almost) any frame can use the base skeleton here of persistence, reconstruct, hunter adrenaline, but saryn benefits the most from it as she didn't have a great way to stay alive before. With persistence, all you need to do is heal 500 health a second, and with reconstruct, all that means is we need to spend 90 mana a second. Hunter adrenaline gives us 225 energy for each 500 damage we take, so the loop both keeps you alive and produces an incredible amount of mana.

[novel bear]

More damage with better energy economy

Survivability for saryn usually relies on shieldgating and molt

Put on brief respite or augur mods and whenever your shields go down you press 2

[abstract axle]

this is much better than brief respite builds, besides being protected from damaging procs, you fundamtentally can't run out of energy thanks to the adrenaline loop

[fierce lark]

or equip circumvent and roll smile

[late hemlock]

Thats sacrificing both arcanes and running triumbra for something that just dies to any heat / corro / mag

Doesn't seem worth it in my book

[abstract axle]

molt is instant and zero handed, so status procs aren't trouble

[fierce lark]

persistence saryn is the most cursed thing ive ever seen

[novel bear]

Persistence is a massive investment on saryn

She simply doesn’t have the stats or abilities for it

[late hemlock]

If your instincts are 100% on points at all times I suppose

Barely passing the 800 armor mark is rough

At least with shield gating you get slight breathing room

[abstract axle]

you can just mash it, you are casting it once a second ish anyways

[late hemlock]

The point is that any of those procs instantly disable persistence with no grace period

But if you are mashing so much its just a shield gating build with extra steps lol

[novel bear]

Heat isn’t instant

It’s like half a second I think?

[abstract axle]

shield gating costs energy, this generates energy

[late hemlock]

.5 iirc yeah

[fierce lark]

heat is 50% across 2 seconds, ticking down a certain percent every .5 seconds

according to an old ass reddit thread i saw yday

thats how player heat works anyways idk if enemy-inflicted heat works the same

[bold estuary]

I revised my wisp build a bit for more strength but im not sure if just two out of the three umbrals is worth

should also check if I meet belicose cap brb

oh and the twos roar this was the wrong slot

[fierce lark]

vitality is pretty useless

health reservoirs give flat health scaling with ability strength

if you were gonna do something like persistence wisp, which is probably a pretty real thing, you'd be able to survive purely off of mote hp and dipping in/out of airborn stealth to regen

(but also build a bunch of duration and press 2 instead)

[bold estuary]

yeah I swapped it for archon vitality since the suns do heat damage

[fierce lark]

do the heat procs themselves do any notable amount of damage?

[deep grotto]

The glorious blue gun is mine
question is idk how i should mod bro

def gonna use the incarnon when it comes back around

i cant remember if its crit or status focused

although i could always go hybrid

[steep furnace]

can somebody tell me if this is good? started using her and really like her turrets and her coming back in time also i dont have formas

[abstract axle]

remove the 4. its not worth bothering with

other than that looks great

[steep furnace]

but augment makes turret better so i keep it

im thinking on replacing the 1

[abstract axle]

super not worth, that augment allows one turret to get to "start" at 20 per loop, but that aint worth lickspittle

roar will demolish it

[karmic badger]

No lol, it just spawns a turret while your 4 is running

[steep furnace]

a second companion tho

[karmic badger]

Also being capped to 20x is doo doo

[abstract axle]

also one is how you stay aliive, so its mandatory

[steep furnace]

i can do up to 60k damage in one shot and its aoe

[karmic badger]

Her turrets hit 40 easily with enemy density

60k isn't much in the grand scheme of things

Her augments for her 4 are just brute forcing synergy to make it usable

Roar or another helminth offers equal or better results for less investment

[abstract axle]

also, you can buff roar wit hher passive, and the guns do heat so you double dip it

[karmic badger]

Archon Vitality is gonna be better for turret damage lmao

[steep furnace]

but the turrets wont last so long tho

[abstract axle]

and they'll deal 4x damage, which will burry your plus 20x

[steep furnace]

what if i.. mix both

thanks for the idea

[abstract axle]

go ahead and try it, roar will also affect the temporal anchor damage

but without the one, you might have trouble staying off the floor

[steep furnace]

ill find a way to stay alive

my 4 makes me revive instantly so

[steep furnace]

lolllll

92 seconds

[shell tundra]

My buddy got this riven, am I looking at a g roll?

[undone dust]

are you seriously asking or are you baiting

[shell tundra]

I wanted to show yall this trash riven and I thought I’d have a bit of a goof, a funny if you will

[undone dust]

this is a very good goof..

[shell tundra]

: )

[thorn oak]

with arcane hot shot does it give u a flat crit chance bonus, or is it 300% of ur crit chance and if so does it apply before or after mods

i assume 300% of ur crit chance

[modern yoke]

Thoughts? I've had this build for a looooooooooooooong time

[dusky swift]

Does anyone have an good general purpose tenet glaxion build that’s viable for steel path

The one I have is magnetic also

[zenith hatch]

which one is better on the laetum ?

[karmic badger]

Galv chamber
Galv aptitude
Crit delay
Photon overcharge
Electric
Toxin
Heat
Speed trigger/Prime Shred

Put debilitate as the arcane, deadhead works but you gotta aim for the head

[woven lynx]

Mates can anyone tell me if Gyre is any good? I heard very differing opinions on her. Some say she is really bad others say that she is incredibly op and even level cap worthy

Can anyone tell me what is going on lol

[buoyant patio]

Right if you're doing a Devouring/Overwhelming Attrition build.

[karmic badger]

Gyre dies whenever the enemy density drops below 5/m^2

[woven lynx]

so she is not worth it. Got it

[karmic badger]

She can do ludicrous crowd control and damage, but only if you can keep the enemy density high enough

Cause otherwise her 3 and 4 will run out of juice

She also suffers from augment syndrome where you have to run like 2 augments to make her work

[woven lynx]

yeah she is not worth it

[fierce lark]

rev is severely overstating how much density gyre needs

[woven lynx]

I don't wanna do shit tons of stuff to be viable while others just press buttons and do everything

[fierce lark]

you only need 1 kill every few seconds to keep up cathode current & rotorswell perpetually with pcont

[karmic badger]

I mean technically gyre only needs to press 3 then 4

Then just use your guns

[fierce lark]

you press 3 and 4 once per mission, press whatever buff you subsumed over 2 (for weapons platform variants), and throw arcspheres under yourself for a big elec buff

or you can not subsume 2 and play gyrinho soccer, not my area of expertise

or you subsume pillage over it and armor strip enemies while you drop your balls on them for ability dmg focus

[sharp flame]

is any of these frames good? Im not too familiar with them

[old marsh]

all r good

[fierce lark]

all are strong by their own merit

[old marsh]

pick any u like u design of

[sharp flame]

alright then, Vauban looks cool

[fierce lark]

you should pick saryn because her farm is by far the worst out of the 3

[sharp flame]

too late

[fierce lark]

nova is a very easy farm, vauban is a few nightwave credits

[sharp flame]

also Im not that interested in Saryn unfortunately

[fierce lark]

the frame isn't really important, you won't likely invest super hard into non-prime frames anyway

at least you shouldn't

when you're picking a frame for circuit you want the one that has the worst farm out of the 3

every frame is farmable, some of them are very easy, some of them (saryn) are complete aids

[sharp flame]

I see I see. Ill keep that in mind next time. I just chose Vauban cause he looks cool imo

[fierce lark]

vauban is pretty cool but he's also one of the easiest frames in the game to get, you can buy all of his parts from the nightwave store

[karmic badger]

Isn't saryn from Kela de thaym?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[teal holly]

Isn't Vauban Prime coming next in Resurgence too?

[karmic badger]

You're probably gonna farm a set while grinding for acid shells...

[fierce lark]

you can buy acid shells if you really want it

can't buy saryn pieces

[karmic badger]

I was a broke bic

And had 3 hours to spare

[sharp flame]

Ill keep that in mind, thanks Saryn!

[teal holly]

I might choose Saryn this week because she's the only non prime frame in rotation I don't already have.

[fierce lark]

at least the saryn farm will make some money if you manage to pick up a few copies of acid shells

but yeah having to farm arena between kela assassinations is horrid

[teal holly]

Rathuum strikes me as basically PvE Conclave, but without the frame/mod limit.

[karmic badger]

Her arenas somehow magically drain energy

[fierce lark]

grineer style index

[teal holly]

That is a much better comparison, yes.

[old marsh]

why not just buy whole ass Saryn

[fierce lark]

just get her for free from a discord nitro gift like i did

ngl i probably never would've gotten back into warframe if not for that

discord just gave me the most busted gunframe for free and it made the game fun as hell when every single gun i picked up was deleting maps

[thorn oak]

I cannot bring myself to do these grendel missions

[fierce lark]

lavos valence formation, radiation imbue

take a high fire rate gun and melt everything with rad procs, watch them all kill each other while you sit back safely

[old marsh]

Damn. If only it was available when i grinded for her

https://tenor.com/view/dog-crying-meme-doggo-crys-megan-soo-crying-dog-gif-5276199764143986284

[old marsh]

Then spend plat, support DE and buy Grendel from market