builds-discussion

[late hemlock]

Higher crit chance but significantly lower base damage

Also no good attack precepts

[midnight horizon]

At least that's good

[late hemlock]

Sunika got almost 2x the damage stat on the claws lol

[coral crest]

@midnight horizon you either try full mecha or summoners wrath for aura. Wrath boosts the pet damage a lot. Full mecha speeds up the time it takes to mark significantly

It's not a bad idea really, just depends on what you want

[late hemlock]

The mark is a great bonus but summoners wrath is insane

100% of the time id run that

Damage spreads with contagious bond even when mecha is down

[fierce lark]

summoners wrath is probably overkill, i would think empowered is a lot better kpm

[velvet pulsar]

Yup

[late hemlock]

Not on my experience

[coral crest]

should_have_tested

[late hemlock]

I have just no access to my pc atm

[velvet pulsar]

Or just take Jade and use both of them.

[coral crest]

Lmao

[velvet pulsar]

[late hemlock]

Also summoners is better for bosses by default

[coral crest]

Mecha jade is nuts

Geniune warcrime

[velvet pulsar]

Mecha Empowered's 150% dmg vulnerability procs on bosses.

[coral crest]

And it's a multi bonus

[velvet pulsar]

Use that info responsibly.

[midnight horizon]

OK.... Sunika Kubrow is giving me the result I wanted

Even tho it's not full yet but it's giving me it

[late hemlock]

Yes I know, but it doesnt work (maybe at all) on the pet from my testing

[coral crest]

It works. Mecha set mostly exists to reduce the mark cooldown

[late hemlock]

Got faster roathe runs with wrath

[midnight horizon]

My Kubrow is jumping around and kept killing each one... Damn

[late hemlock]

Here is huras with wrath vs roathe

Not sure if i got a video saved of mecha somewhere

Frankly my main issue is that you can't force the pet to target the mecha marked

So they will deal a lot less dps most of the time

[velvet pulsar]

U can by that hunter mod?

[coral crest]

What does roathe say again

[late hemlock]

That means I have to target them myself

[stiff flower]

Question. Would putting cyte 09 evade over ivara prowl be better for the fast paced wf? Or is the helminth version of evade not worth it?

[late hemlock]

I cant even see where they are 99% of the time

[velvet pulsar]

At that point use Wrathful Advance subsume.

Or a movement melee.

U ain't gonna disrespect ivara like that

All of her abilities turn her invisible, and u dare subsume an invisible ability?

[old marsh]

Sure can. Evade is better for active gameplay. Prowl is better for passive.

[coral crest]

at this point just use Voruna

[velvet pulsar]

If ur issue with prowl is movement then use a movement ability

[vernal wolf]

Can anyone help me get merciless primary?

[old marsh]

Or use Ivara’s wire

[coral crest]

Vial Rush!!!!!

Just don't enable navigator while rushing or things will get weird

[velvet pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-tf2-professionals-have-standards-drive-gif-15105282

[old marsh]

Navigator with 13% Dur & 300% STR goes wild

[velvet pulsar]

U can push it to 12 by switching mod order I guess

[narrow granite]

this good?

[fierce lark]

it ends in Certus Brace

so, yes

if you have a tauron strike with dmg amp mods equipped, any xx7 amp will kill shit

[midnight horizon]

OK I'm just gonna do this now bc I'm a bit desperate... Do any of you have spare Mecha Empowerment and... That other Mecha

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[narrow granite]

words fam, not a gif of some old guy

[midnight horizon]

That's not any old guy bro

[coral crest]

I'm just saying that because vial rush bottles are controllable by Navigator and you completely lose control of the actual movement

[midnight horizon]

And that reaction alone has it all hahaha

[scenic summit]

Hey lads,

Been interested in doing max lvl void cascade. I’ve been running a gun platform ash prime build with dual tox + riven and a smeeta kavat for pretty much everything. Not found anything in the game I can’t shred in under a second minus bosses. Using roar for subsume.

I’m interested in using a different build, a melee ash prime build. Since the benefits of the gun build pretty much completely carries over to the melee build. I intend to use wrathful advance with the Thalys. Farming for Praedos soon.

What’s left is whether I need something in the kit for viral priming. So my questions are the following.

How necessary is viral priming in max level void cascade? Is it not possible to shred enemies without it? I’ll paste in more details for my build when I get to my computer.

If viral priming is necessary, what’s the best way to do so without a Panzer vulpaphyla or using nourish on my dual tox?

How do I know if my build’s good enough for a Max lvl void cascade run?

Cheers folks. Let me know if there’s any other information I need to add

Edit: the reason I want to avoid using a Panzer is so I get the double loot mod for the smeeta*

[fierce lark]

diriga with a burst laser prime is your best bet, for both viral and CO priming, with tenacious bond

[coral crest]

When can they let us name sentinels :(

[fierce lark]

double loot mod is for all beasts

[coral crest]

Is this the price of meta slop

[fierce lark]

smeeta is mostly useless now, other than for affinity farming

[scenic summit]

Oh, so I can chuck it on a Panzer?

[coral crest]

Yeah you can

And you'll get your viral priming

[scenic summit]

Did not know that. Cheers mate. That solves most of the issues I raised lol

[coral crest]

For real priming its Diriga or Hound

(if you can keep the hound alive)

[scenic summit]

How come?

[coral crest]

5 million manifold bond status procs

[scenic summit]

Vs the panzer? Seen most YouTubers recommend the panzer

[coral crest]

Because most youtubers don't know what they're talking about

[scenic summit]

Fair

[coral crest]

Panzer is super lazy, super simple, and that's it

[fierce lark]

panzer is also top tier survivability

[scenic summit]

Might run it anyways because I think they’re cute. But noted that they’re not BIS for voidcascade companions

[coral crest]

Oh yeah true

[fierce lark]

but you don’t need that on ash

[scenic summit]

No need for viral priming on ash? Is it because ash does enough damage that it’s not needed?

[velvet pulsar]

Diriga can also run Tazicor

[fierce lark]

still, i would go either panzer or diriga

[fierce lark]

this is redundant

[coral crest]

Actually...

[versed harbor]

naw u dont need the survivability from panzer on ash

[scenic summit]

What’s the benefit of the Tazicor?

[coral crest]

Does Pack Leader work on ash's 4?

[fierce lark]

on diriga there isn’t one

[velvet pulsar]

Duplex Bond extra priming.
You'd lose tenacious bond.

[scenic summit]

Don’t know, might test it out

[fierce lark]

tazicor is for companions that aren’t diriga, because it shoots very similarly to arc coil

[scenic summit]

Because ash can turn the panzer invis?

[coral crest]

panzer is immortal

[velvet pulsar]

Burst lazer variants also have advantages of set mods

[fierce lark]

diriga wants an IPS weapon to add to manifold bond, and burst laser prime/laser rifle prime give enough base crit to get tenacious bond with 200% mods

[velvet pulsar]

Like augur mods and synth mods

[scenic summit]

What’s IPS?

[fierce lark]

panzer would be for loyal retriever

[velvet pulsar]

Impact Puncture Slash

[fierce lark]

for occasional 2x steel essence

alongside the other things panzer does

[versed harbor]

steel midsence

[velvet pulsar]

Resourceful Retriever

[fierce lark]

yeah that one

[velvet pulsar]

Because credit farm should stay in credit farm

[scenic summit]

I see, cheers folks, I think I got it now.

I’ll grab myself a panzer or diriga and commit to my melee build. Then try my hand at VC

[velvet pulsar]

Also Reflex Draw

Works on ur regular weps

[coral crest]

5 million thrax plasm

My Helminth will never starve

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-bob-eating-carrots-monsters-vs-aliens-carrots-carrots-gif-10979397057536458607

[velvet pulsar]

Lua Thrax Plasm

[coral crest]

No just normal Thrax plasm

[velvet pulsar]

1 million Lua Thrax Plasm

[scenic summit]

I’m out on Alloy plate, salvage, and Nav coords.

My helminth’s a hungry boy

[narrow granite]

are ya gonna actually say why that gif?

[fierce lark]

diriga & weapon builds

seismic should work on ash’s invis

[velvet pulsar]

Why carnis stinger?

Put a synth mod and reflex draw on it.

[fierce lark]

radial cc on heavy

reflex draw wtf

[velvet pulsar]

U call reduced enemy accuracy as CC?

[fierce lark]

what exactly are a synth mod and reflex draw supposed to do?

[velvet pulsar]

Reflex Draw applies on all weapons

And synth set is holster reload, but if u don't have horrible reload stuff, sure u can take advantage of the status immunity of carnis set.

[fierce lark]

this is for a melee build

i don’t think holster reload and recoil are gonna do a whole lot

[velvet pulsar]

Oh well
However accuracy from reflex draw affects melee multishot

If u r using such melee

[velvet pulsar]

Is it bad idea to use Encumber on Angstrum incarnon?

I wanna take more advantage of that multi gunCO.

[karmic badger]

Encumber can only activate once per game tick

So if you apply multiple status effects simultaneously, you can only get 1 encumber proc no matter what

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah I know multishot doesn't multi trigger it

And Angstrum incarnon doesn't have high final SC

So the only thing I rely on to proc encumber is the fire rate.

[woven drift]

What stats do I wanna build my dagath for?

[fierce lark]

lots of strength, high duration if you're using the spectral spirit augment, high range if not

[woven drift]

Alright so is range a need or no

[fierce lark]

are you using the augment? if so, you don't actually need to hit things with your 2, which is the only thing you really need range for

[woven drift]

Oh cool and yeah I'm using augment

[fierce lark]

then you want a very high duration, you can run negative range and slot narrow minded

[woven drift]

👍

Keep ability 2 or swap it out

[fierce lark]

keep it, subsuming it removes the strength scaling from it

if you want to subsume something, subsume 4 and add catalyzing shields and an augur mod or brief respite to shield gate between grave spirits, or subsume evade and use it when spirit is down

alternatively if you never press 1 anyway you can subsume that, and use rakhali cavalry to pseudo-gate between spirits, since you're immune during the cast

[woven drift]

Ah what other abilities since I don't have evade

[fierce lark]

can do roar, wrathful advance if you're using melee, xata's whisper, nourish

breach surge but you'll want to drop narrow-minded and probably add a range mod

i dont run a subsume personally

[dusky hatch]

should i use cascadia flare or secondary irradiated for the ragulator i have nautilus to proc irradiation

[fierce lark]

flare, and you should have viral or corrosive instead of anemic & hornet strike

there is no universe where nautilus is getting a target to 10 rad stacks with any weapon before mesa can kill it

[tawdry trail]

There is a secret third option

[fierce lark]

what might that be

[tawdry trail]

Enervate

Wait

[late hemlock]

Fortifier

[tawdry trail]

Nvm lol

[late hemlock]

Its fortitier my man

[fierce lark]

regulators aren't really an enervate gun

[tawdry trail]

Yeah I am not running enervate idk why that came to mind

[fierce lark]

the secret third option is outburst

[tawdry trail]

I have the silly encumber build

[late hemlock]

Outburst is definitely funny but its just so overkill

[fierce lark]

i almost bought a ceramic dagger riven in hopes to roll a big IC number for lazy outburst

[late hemlock]

Tandem bond is really nice for passive combo with some aoe pets

[midnight horizon]

I got the Damage done... Sunika was doing good

Problem next is Survivability

How do I make Sunika survive longer?

[fierce lark]

for you? or the pet?

[midnight horizon]

Pet, I'm surviving good

[fierce lark]

primed/pack leader is the easiest way

[late hemlock]

It varies a lot per setup tbh

[midnight horizon]

Pack leader?

[fierce lark]

every time you melee something it generates pet overshield

a flat amount per hit

[midnight horizon]

Ah I'm not into Melee tho that's the thing

[late hemlock]

Melee setups got pack mods

If your frame got big stat link mod exists

Can go with duplex on a caster to help divert aggro

Or just let it die but have very fast revives with momentous bond + medi pet etc

[midnight horizon]

Like... Deadass I don't even use melee, like I don't equip them

[fierce lark]

if you yourself are playing a very tanky frame like inaros or hildryn or lavos there's link verisons of every stat mod

[midnight horizon]

I mean my Vauban is a bit Tanky solely bc my shield regenerates faster and I have CC on it

[dusky hatch]

so like this ?

[fierce lark]

if you actually don't use melee you should get the okina prime or praedos incarnons and get all their evolutions, they have passive mobility boosts just for having them equipped

[midnight horizon]

That's good imo

[fierce lark]

without irradiate but yes

[midnight horizon]

I used Mesa quite much that I can confidently say it's good

[fierce lark]

if you have nourish on mesa run corrosive instead of viral, but otherwise that's good

[midnight horizon]

For me arcanes is between Fortifier and.... That one mod

But I use Merciless tbh

[fierce lark]

merciless is a lot worse than flare

[midnight horizon]

I forgot that one mod

[dusky hatch]

so what arcane should i use here

[midnight horizon]

Ah! Flare!

[fierce lark]

cascadia flare

[midnight horizon]

Cascadia Flare

[fierce lark]

or secondary fortifier if you have it and want more comfort

[midnight horizon]

Fortifier or Flare

Either way

[midnight horizon]

But yeah I use Merciless bc that's my only R5 hahahah

My Cascadia flare is r0

[dusky hatch]

what about arcane for my warframe ?

[pallid quiver]

is building status on burston just bad in general? i tried a multishot + status build and the damage is kinda disappointing

[tawdry trail]

Burston is very much intended to be built as a crit weapon

[fierce lark]

if you're gonna run arcane avenger you might wanan run combat discipline to trigger it consistently, and run arcane velocity as one of the arcanes

[pallid quiver]

which of its inc upgrades do i go for?

[tawdry trail]

The crit chance one

I forget the rest

[fierce lark]

also you should run narrow minded instead of redirection

[pallid quiver]

so even if i build for multishot i still wanna build crit? and forget completely about status?

[fierce lark]

post the build

[tawdry trail]

Multishot is not exclusive with crit, you don't need that many mods to build into both

[fierce lark]

the final evolution absolutely has to be the crit one

[pallid quiver]

i just took it all off lol

[fierce lark]

the other two are preference

[pallid quiver]

it was basically viral heat with galv aptitude

[tawdry trail]

Some incarnons don't work too well with galv aptitude

[fierce lark]

burston is one of them

[dusky hatch]

rn i have eclise as my subsume should i use nourish instead ?

[fierce lark]

doesn't apply to the bonus damage gained from 2nd evo, which is over 3/4 of the weapon's total damage

[fierce lark]

eclipse, roar, nourish all work

im not sure how eclipse compares to roar on raw damage builds tbh but i think roar is still better

have never looked into eclipse

[tawdry trail]

Nourish might make that 50% efficiency more manageable

Or... brightbonnet

[fierce lark]

i would still go with nourish because mesa prefers having infinite energy for infinite clint eastwood

and switch the regulators build to corrosive heat

[pallid quiver]

brightbonnet is one of the funniest abilities ever

[dusky hatch]

should i let my companion proc corrosive instead or should it be viral and switch regulator to corrosive and heat

[pallid quiver]

is the galv multishot mod good on burston or nah

[fierce lark]

it's good if you're not using acuity

[pallid quiver]

i find that im doing a lot of orange and reds but the actual damage numbers on each suck lol

its like orange and red crits for under 10k each

[fierce lark]

tazicor build should look like this

[fierce lark]

again, post build

there's likely something else going on

[pallid quiver]

i will when im done with this disruption

[midnight horizon]

For me Ms is quite........ Ass in Burston.... Hmmm what's up with that

[pallid quiver]

This is what I was running on it while it was being leveled

[fierce lark]

okay well i see the problem

you basically have 5 mods on it lol

and no elemental damage

do you even have an arcane?

[queen sandal]

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[pallid quiver]

nope, is it a must have for burston to work properly

what should i be changing in the build (if i take out hush i have 15 mod capacity)

[fierce lark]

you need base damage of some kind. if it's not coming from the arcane, it has to come from serration

[pallid quiver]

amalgam or normal

[fierce lark]

if you are investing enough into a gun to put a catalyst on it, you should put an arcane on it

[late hemlock]

Vigilante armaments has very high diminishing returns because of galv chamber so generally not worth using

You dont need me to explain why hush and veiled rivens dont help

[fierce lark]

amalgam if it's equal or higher level

add serration, add viral mods in place of armaments and the riven

[pallid quiver]

best one i got rn is primary deadhead

[fierce lark]

and add primary deadhead when you're able to

[pallid quiver]

r0 tho

[fierce lark]

well get a r5 one asap, having a proper arcane is important for any weapon

[pallid quiver]

if i only have enough mod capacity for 1 toxin mod should i do the 60/60 or the 90

[fierce lark]

if the expected value per mod slot is something like amalgam serration's 155% damage, primary deadhead is over 2x that + extra multiplicative headshot damage

[fierce lark]

you should do one toxin and one cold mod

drop hammer shot if you have to

[old marsh]

always pick 60/60 unless u want specific weighting like u want heat more in viral heat

[pallid quiver]

gotcha

time to go find the cold 60/60 somewhere

unless its baro only like jolt

then ill just be sad for a while

[old marsh]

maybe she bless u with RNG

[fierce lark]

in burston's case if you don't have primed cryo you should do double 90 mods

[pallid quiver]

oh wait i do

do i just use that

[fierce lark]

yes

burston is very much a raw damage gun, you don't care about weighting as much as pushing elemental dmg

honestly i'm not sure why ninjase's build doesn't run 90 toxin instead of 60

@latent adder is there a particular reason for this? or is it more "doesn't really make a difference and 60 mod is cheaper"

[latent adder]

the extra 60 sc helps with useful status eg viral

vs 30 less element on top of 200

but if u dont own primed cryo round then two 90s is reasonable

[fierce lark]

i figured that much at first, but thinking about it most things die in one bullet

but there's bosses and stuff that don't

[latent adder]

well it shoots alot of bullets in 1s

so it could still apply between 1 to 10 viral before things die, and the difference between 1 viral and 10 viral is a 2x multiplier

[fierce lark]

checks out

[pallid quiver]

any idea what to build on the cernos? its good good base chance on both crit and status

[fierce lark]

the regular base cernos? wouldn't bother building that out, with it having a prime variant

[pallid quiver]

nah the prime

managed to scrounge up all its parts recently

[nocturne heron]

Why damage on magistar incarnon so low?

wait i cant send image

[old marsh]

u need to be LR3 to be allowed uploading pics in this server

[fierce lark]

you must’ve done something horrendously wrong to be getting low damage magistar

[old marsh]

maybe no mods

[nocturne heron]

anyway only 500k damage hits

unless i full strip and max viral stack the enemy with hydroid then i still need 2 shots to kill

eximus dedicants lvl 125

[old marsh]

seems fine

[fierce lark]

seismic wave?

[old marsh]

oop

[nocturne heron]

i thought it was good, no experience with slam builds

[fierce lark]

no like you don’t have it

[nocturne heron]

OH LOL FORGOT IT

[fierce lark]

lol

[nocturne heron]

still extremely low damage

cant even break their shields

less than a mil

even when fully primed by diriga

[fierce lark]

you can also replace amalgam organ shatter with the regular one

are you in simulacrum or smth

[spiral chasm]

Honestly the best way is probably to use melee calculator if u really wanna min max

Cuz i think u need to run double sac

[nocturne heron]

yea

[spiral chasm]

And to amp more dmg u can put double nira on frame

[nocturne heron]

so the only way AND ONLY WAY for me to kill those guys in a slam is with kullervo (4 purple one tau) roar build

[spiral chasm]

If u go toxin u dont need to break shield

[nocturne heron]

which is why kullervo can kill those guys with all the buffs but my damage is horrendously low

normal heavy attacks seem to deal far more damage

[midnight horizon]

Xoris WITH Kullervo is disgustingly op just wanna say

[nocturne heron]

yeah but without hilariously weak unless the enemy is grouped up

anyway the problem rn is magistar dealing little to no damage when not used on kullervo

even with kullervo the damage numbers dont exceed 5 mil

[midnight horizon]

Nah it's still op without, Kullervo just makes it more powerful

[spiral chasm]

Do you slot in double niras mod?

[midnight horizon]

Mmm smth wrong there... I was able to hit 65 mil with Xoris before... 65 and lower till like 10 mil

Xoris is powerful, deadass

[nocturne heron]

the problem is magistar not xoris

[nocturne heron]

whats that

[midnight horizon]

With Kullervo (with again... I subsumed) he is more powerful

[spiral chasm]

On frame u can slot 2 niras mod to boost slam dmg

[midnight horizon]

Oh that.... Slam shit stick...... Yeah....

[nocturne heron]

but xoris (when not on kullervo) deals only enough damage to one shot if enemies (atleast 10) are properly grouped up

[midnight horizon]

That's true

[nocturne heron]

what is niras mod

[midnight horizon]

If they are scattered it's quite bad

[nocturne heron]

yea

[spiral chasm]

Thats the name of the mod type is Nira i think it has 2

[nocturne heron]

ah its a set of 3

[midnight horizon]

And no hate to Magistar

I just don't use melee that only do slam

Sorry for the people who like slamming... Hope I did not offend amyonr

[spiral chasm]

Nira's hatred and something else i believe

[midnight horizon]

Forgive me for my sins

[nocturne heron]

seems very good but its only additive

that doesnt fix my below 1 mil damage numbers

[spiral chasm]

Hmm

Run double Sac too

Sac pressure and steel

Or ppp and steel maybe to save umbra mod

[nocturne heron]

well i can easily oneshot once i use hydroid to full viral and armor strip

[fierce lark]

nira’s hatred and nira’s anguish (exilus)

[nocturne heron]

hydroid might actually be peak

oo an exilus with such damage is nice

[midnight horizon]

Sorry for Pinging you, just quick question

What should I do with Sunika to make it survive more?

I forgot to take screenshots

[spiral chasm]

You might not need full strip tho

Corrosive projection is probably enough strip

[nocturne heron]

mod capacity is kinda ahh

[midnight horizon]

and Corrosive or heat to add

[nocturne heron]

my damage is stupidly low so no xD

[fierce lark]

honestly beyond pack leader, link mods which require you play a tanky frame and kavat mods that kubrows can’t use, i have no idea

[midnight horizon]

Hmmm........ Thank you

I'll experiment more

[spiral chasm]

The difference between your kullervo and others is probably those purple shards tbh

Try kullervo with no frame buffs and only shards

[midnight horizon]

Purp :3

Love that color.... Can't get it yet but yeah

[nocturne heron]

kullervo still needs wrathful and roar to one shot those with magistar

[nocturne heron]

so worth it

[midnight horizon]

Oh and Saryn

Lastlu

What does Vauban's passive mean?

"25% more damage to incapacitated enemies"?

[spiral chasm]

I dmd u a link so u can calculate everything instead of trying everything out

[midnight horizon]

Yeah, I need it soon

[fierce lark]

run nira’s mods on your frame and level up your melee mods

and make sure exposure, reflex, and all the rest of your stacking things are actually stacked

[spiral chasm]

Make copy of the sheet

[nocturne heron]

tysm

[fierce lark]

wait hold on

[spiral chasm]

You'll see the difference between no shard, no nira etc

[fierce lark]

naji what combo are you getting to

[scenic summit]

How well does the Thalys perform in void cascade lvl cap? Running ash + wrathful advance at 300% strength

I'm considering getting a different melee weapon because I heard other melee weapons were significantly stronger. Trying to see if it's worth doing so, or just sticking with the Thalys

[nocturne heron]

the result of max galv mods 7x combo count magistar... however actual lvl 9999 enemies are stronger i think

max stacks of galv not actually maxed

[nocturne heron]

ill get nira then rq and use my last precious forma on it 🙏

[spiral chasm]

Just use calculation sheet to see how much itll boost ur dmg

[nocturne heron]

F NO EXILUS WEAPON ADAPTER

[spiral chasm]

Since u can just use the check marks

[fierce lark]

it means vauban does more damage to enemies that are under some form of “help i can’t move”

[midnight horizon]

Does Ragdolled consider as one? I mean.... Maybe... I'm maybe stupid

But yeah

Does it consider?

[fierce lark]

doesn’t seem like it

[orchid dirge]

Which one should I focus on for uriel abilities range , duration, strength ?

[fierce lark]

range first, then duration

strength doesn’t need to be too high unless as long as it’s above neutral

and archon vitality important

[nocturne heron]

very much so

[orchid dirge]

D %155
R 235
S 263
Is that good ?

[nocturne heron]

very yes

[fierce lark]

dunno, would need to see the mod setup

[midnight horizon]

Fck

[midnight horizon]

Dammit...

[midnight horizon]

Who's this?

[fierce lark]

i have equilibrium on a shard, and augur reach in its place, otherwise looks the same

[midnight horizon]

Oh it's Uriel

Man I don't really care what to build with Uriel tbh

Like his skill especially 3 has his demons scale to enemy health

So the higher the enemy health the more and faster it procs heat

Just slap on blind rage and you're good to go

And Arcane Vitality r0

Like...... There is really no biggie for Uriel imo

He is so strong and whatever build you make for him he always Cooks no matter what

[velvet sundial]

What is a good companion to help me survive I keep dying in steel path 😭😭

[fierce lark]

panzer vulpaphyla

[midnight horizon]

It does?

[velvet sundial]

I thought that was for damage

[midnight horizon]

So Panzer for priming and Kubrow for damage

[midnight horizon]

Mostly Kubrow for damage... As I learned, Panzer uses mostly for Priming

[fierce lark]

it has multiple layers of cheat death

[velvet sundial]

I got the damage I just keep getting 1 tapped

[orchid dirge]

Tbh I don't know much about mods or warframs build I only used Arthur I downloaded the game because of him now I'm interested in uriel that's why I'm asking 😁 anyway ty guys mwahhh

[fierce lark]

it also does damage, does viral, never actually dies so you keep bond buffs forever, and can equip a doubling loot mod

[midnight horizon]

As I said, whatever you build to Uriel, it doesn't matter

He is too strong, and that's his power

Slap in blind rage and Arcane Vitality r0 and youre good

[midnight horizon]

Sunika suffers tho, I still yet to learn how to do it, especially survivability

[glass rampart]

build better

[midnight horizon]

Damn straighforward

[glass rampart]

damage is one thing

survivability is another

[midnight horizon]

Do you have another way to make Sunika survives?

[glass rampart]

what are you doing with Sunika

[midnight horizon]

Aggressive damage

[glass rampart]

i dont play sunika kubrow

[midnight horizon]

But he does so quickly that idk what to do

[glass rampart]

i use Hounds

[midnight horizon]

Got a full Mecha Set on him

Ah

Good talk

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[severe bough]

On hounds cats whatever u normally use PPL and in general just use the bond mods the will die anyways

[glass rampart]

whats a good subsume on gauss

not roar or energised munitions

[deep grotto]

Is running Acid Shells on Uriel reasonable?
I know you can’t get the runes on command but still

[quiet laurel]

xatas

[glass rampart]

i subsumed nourish lol

to make up for the loss of energy generation

[kindred lynx]

I recently got Valkyr prime, could anyone recommend a budget build for her?

[coral crest]

Definitely

[night laurel]

how reliable is Underframe's autobuild?

[coral crest]

He's not THAT good on it, but the synergy still works

[fresh dagger]

i got this build off a YTer, but i easily die in steelpath. Any suggestions?

[lavish orbit]

Stay invisible with your one, activate status immunity with your passive

[quiet laurel]

its def better than the in game auto build and runs actual dmg calculation during the building process

so its pretty good

[fresh dagger]

How will i fight though, every time I shoot my invisibility goes off

[lavish orbit]

This build is more of a caster voruna, use your 3rd then you need to prime with your 2nd and nuke with your 4th, then repeat

Only when you cast you get visible, it's not a weapon build

[night laurel]

I ran the auto build for the Reconifex and it spat out... this. Also took out the acuity i put in it like telling me to piss off lol.

Let's see how it goes!

[fresh dagger]

if its a caster voruna, should i remove something to add efficiency bcuz casting abilities is very costy

my eff is on 40%

[lavish orbit]

You have equilibrium, archon stretch and Impetus for energy

Also lycath's hunt is made for that

[coral crest]

Her 3 gives you guaranteed orbs. Impetus and stretch are stacked from 2

4 replenishes charges as long as you kill with an augment

This augment

But even without this augment you are probably fine

[fresh dagger]

and then for shards just 5 blues is fine right

tau

[quiet laurel]

yeah cause acuity isnt that good overall

[night laurel]

holy shit

underframe I kneel

[coral crest]

Id swap equilibrium with an augment for 4 and slotted 2 purple equilibrium shards, putting the rest in energy capacity or something

But that's quite costly

Your idea works perfectly fine as well

[kindred lynx]

anyone pls give me a budget build valkyr prime build! Man7y thanks!!

[upper marlin]

Hello, can anyone help me, what should i slot as my last mod for Venari Prime ?
Tandem Bond doesent work anymroe

[brave cosmos]

is this good?

[swift wedge]

gun is slow and headshot based.

while a devent riv its questionable to use because from what I remember one of the actually good builds relies on Headshot Gas AOE. so minus Status Duration can kill it.

[brave cosmos]

ok i see

[maiden cargo]

ermm

if i will build scourge for dps with weakpoint dmg / bubble
whats a good element

[lunar bear]

so is vauban a CC frame

[coral crest]

He's a caster with extreme cc

His ability damage uniquely scales with mission level

[mellow nimbus]

I am confused. The displayed DMG in arsenal screen on vauban's 3 is low. But when I use it I am somehow dealing 100k dmg?
Where is that coming from?

[coral crest]

They forgot to mention that all his ability damage is scaling with mission level

Absolutely insane privilege that I imagine a lot of people are gonna discover now

Vauban is unironically one of the strongest casters in the game, his damage can't fall off

[mellow nimbus]

Yooooo

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[coral crest]

So if you let's say

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[coral crest]

End up in level cap

[vale spire]

not sure if its a known interaction with vauban, but if you use arcane concentration (on ability cast +60% duration for next abiltity) and enduring bastile (vortex duration increased by 70% of max duration for every vortex thrown into it) you can get a vortex that pulls in all enemies within range, with 265% range you get 26.5m for like 6 minutes

[coral crest]

His stuff will be doing level cap damage

[old marsh]

Tesla Bank

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[coral crest]

Yeah Vauban has been crazy for years now, now hes even better somehow

[mellow nimbus]

Meanwhile Loki is crying in the corner lmao

[coral crest]

One must master the damage decoy to truly understand Loki

[mighty jetty]

i mean, this is the "generic primary build" you can use in virtually any primary that is non-aoe

it is like the "generic influence build" that just works on any melee

depending on the weapon, or if has element valence, or other passives, you should consider using more critical sense because the auto-build will definitelly not be the best

But Underframe is undeniable an amazing tool, especially for comparing DPS between builds in a fast way. Anyone can be a Ninjase with it lmao

[solar reef]

????
loki is great

[celest sparrow]

should i go with viral instead of heat because of this arcane?

[solar reef]

Feels like people need a daily reminder
Invulnerability, Invisibility, Priming for every status, Infinitely scaling decoy, Strongest aggro in the game
and a subsume-slot 4th CC that still works

Loki is great, yall just dont know ball

[solar reef]

arguably not worth using, too many downsides for whats basically just a multishot mod

+Slash is a huge yuck

-Reload speed is also pretty ick

[fair swan]

Does anyone have a good burston prime build

[nocturne heron]

does null star with neutron star do anything for uriel?

or is nourish (sadly) the only option that does anything

[summer hollow]

Always will be ...😏

[glass rampart]

vauban photon repeater kinda gas in base steel path

[severe bough]

Mind Control decoy tech>>

[mellow nimbus]

https://v.redd.it/4qewajyc7wig1/CMAF_1080.mp4?source=fallback

Photon strike

[glass rampart]

BUILD????

[stiff finch]

photon repeater will always land 3 times any of the "repeats" hit 5 targets

so its kinda unlimited rn

[mellow nimbus]

That's a post on Reddit.
But I tried it myself with just blind rage and it's still dealing a ton of DMG. Just make sure to use his 2 or 4 first

[glass rampart]

oh no i did an omnia with photon repeater

it does a ton of damage even to acolytes

[mellow nimbus]

Nice

It hits through overguard right?

[glass rampart]

it deals double damage to overguard

in this case that means it fully removes it

[proper wing]

Is Arcane Persistence actually good on Lavos? I tried and I felt extra squishy with 1300 armor

[mighty flare]

its very good, you'd want another healing source besides his 1 for consistency

[mellow nimbus]

That is awesome 👍

[proper wing]

Yeah I had Coda Hirudo but I felt that I had to be constantly using melee to not die

[royal yarrow]

Hmmm last time i check it was around maybe 36 or 37 seconds

[fair swan]

Does anyone have a good burston prime build

[mighty flare]

stackless acuity, you can swap chamber and arcane

[compact cypress]

should i swap lingering for valence?

[fickle cobalt]

does the violet archon shard count itself for the primary electricity damage buff? or does it exclude itself when counting additional shards?

[long vine]

Is there anyone who mains Xaku? Can you share your build guide with me?

[fair swan]

Whats amglam serration

[mighty flare]

a variant mod from thermia fracturs, you don't need it, use regular serration or whatever you got

[upper marlin]

anyone ?

[glass rampart]

Max range

Max range, a butt ton of strength, enough for the lost: gaze to fully armour strip

And shieldgating

And some duration obv but not too important. Just use arcane concentration

[coral crest]

or if you feel like subsuming your brain function, replace 3 with omamori

[glass rampart]

Or subsume your 1 with condemn

[mighty jetty]

Did someone tried Ember as a health-tank with Persistence, or mostly people are still using her with shield gate?

[woven lynx]

what should I change here bros

[dreamy badge]

thoughts?

[daring summit]

whats better on the ax-52, crux or deblitate

[nocturne spindle]

You using the Incarnon?

[velvet pulsar]

Crux

[dreamy badge]

yep

im also working on getting melee influence to max and primed pressure point

[nocturne spindle]

If you want influence to work you should try fitting on gas electric, otherwise the electricity will combine with the incarnons innate heat to make radiation

[green hemlock]

So can any body show a lower level Sevagoth prime build 🤔 please?

[mellow nimbus]

Her augment gives overguard so just spam that instead

[sharp niche]

calling all equinox players! this is the build i use, what would you do to improve it? is yours similar? keep in mind im not a pro at making builds or even very well trained at it

basically, i built for as much duration as possible because i love having the duality equinox out.

ive tested and summoners drift works with both coaction drift and duality.

got a couple red shards on her, and i have pillage on her 3(havent tried it on 2, but thats even more energy consumption per second if u have her 3 up alongside her 4.)

i also use the grimoire with xata invocation if you are having energy trouble, or ris invocation for even more duration for ur duality and pillage.

it feels like playing with a stronger wukong clone basically

[dreamy badge]

anyone got a god build for Whisp ?

[compact cypress]

should i swap scope for creeping bullseye on my toxocysts?

[noble path]

no

[late hemlock]

you can use either pistol gambit or creeping not both

(creeping not worth it over)

[narrow granite]

elementalist or lethal torrent for kurwa nukor? :V

[spiral chasm]

The reason u dont want -fr is because fire rate acts multiplicatively with DTs passive so u lose that multiplier

[spiral chasm]

Hmmm ur elements are interesting

Idt radiation is the way to go

[mellow nimbus]

How so?

[coral crest]

@severe bough check dms

[limber delta]

ash got a pretty decent buff now his 3 is actually 200% this time and scales with str

it's also multiplicative to Savage Silence so there's another reason to not run wrathful

[noble depot]

can I make my blast build stronger?

[limber delta]

im pretty sure Empowered doesn't proc off of the torxica's spores.. not that it's damage is anything impressive

most status dmg calculations include modded base damage, so you could put deadhead/merciless over it instead

or well just rely on shot if your primer is aoe enough

[nocturne heron]

so if i subsume over uriels 1 -3 i lose the respective demon?

[limber delta]

modding more cold/heat doesn't really affect blast all that much except it's status weighting either, so either drop the riven or frostbite and see if you can fit something else and try that

[brisk estuary]

Current Gauss build, any suggestions?

[violet silo]

archon cont is cuz you don’t have prime?

anyway I have lots of suggestions

first of all, nuke or weapons platform build

if it’s a nuke, get rid of every strength mod

[brisk estuary]

Yeah

[violet silo]

also you need arcane aegis

[remote bay]

what shards should I be running on dagath?

[mighty flare]

casting speed, qol, duration

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/893671/

For Gyre, which element would I get?

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a build for the new vauban rework i can steal for higher level steel path?

[fierce lark]

if you're running violet primary shards, probably toxin so you can replace the toxin mod with cannonade or something

[hollow scarab]

cuz i have no idea what i am doing for him

[fierce lark]

or maybe heat to add some form of dot

in case something somehow survives the first shot

[shell ridge]

Does galv shot work on kompressa?

[midnight horizon]

i need help correcting my builds

[shell ridge]

Get the incarnon version and arcane adapter

[midnight horizon]

yes i missed it out last week

[shell ridge]

Get rid of serration and sawtooth

[midnight horizon]

i gotta grind burston incarno

[midnight horizon]

what do i replace it with

[shell ridge]

Rifle elementalist

[midnight horizon]

so status chacne and elemtal

[shell ridge]

Then replace sawtooth and gilded truth with viral damage

[shell ridge]

Yeah

[dense quiver]

anybody got updated vauban builds i could use for reference cuz im lowkey stuck in a place where im not able to manage my energy in a great way without sacrificing arcane energize or my survivability mods

[crude mist]

Does anyone have any good recommendations for a Valkyr build? I think I’m close but a bit away from a full build

[shell ridge]

Dont use pure elemental damage mods unless its primed cryo rounds

[hollow scarab]

i too am lost

i hate that i cant use my normal way of saying thigns cuz f*** is banned lmao

[fathom sky]

If you already had the Ninjase builds then those don't need update afail

[dense quiver]

ninjase?

thata creator?

[fathom sky]

https://overframe.gg/build/273105/

[chrome cedar]

Is this Caliban build good enough?

I actually replaced deflection for stretch but I didn't take a screenshot for it

[shell ridge]

No

U shouldnt use shield mods outside of maybe primed redirection on him

Also u put an exilus mod in a norm mod slot

And caliban wants strength

[rose owl]

can i use Stinger with diriga ?

or stinger it s just for Djin ?

[chrome cedar]

I know, I replaced deflection with stretch

[chrome cedar]

That's temporary while I get an eximus adapter

[old marsh]

Ye

[chrome cedar]

This is kinda my top until I get blind rage

[rose owl]

can someone test this pls ? Stinger deal toxic dmg, then i will put a cold mod on, i will obtain viral dmg, then if i use arc coil on diriga and volt prime with his 1 abiliti shock trooper, it would combine viral and corrosive ?

[thorny cargo]

does anyone have a good idea for a titania build?

[thorn oak]

what should i do if i want more fire rate

[old marsh]

Shock trooper doesn’t combine with elemental mods. It’s Separate

[thorn oak]

my riven has toxin on it

[shell ridge]

Alr id recommend ditching the strength exilus mod for the augment, then slot it in once u get the exilus adapter

[thorn oak]

ive just answered my own question

[chrome cedar]

I'll do that as soon as I get the augment

Which augment tho?

[shell ridge]

Razor mortar, he only has one

[rose owl]

so how can i obtain viral+corrosive on companion ? or should i just use viral+heat ?

[shell ridge]

Also subsume nourish over his four and get rid of energize

[chrome cedar]

Oh ok, didn't know he only had one, who sells it?

[chrome cedar]

I don't have nourish, and looking at the Vitus I need I might not get it in a while

[shell ridge]

Cephalon suda and perrin sequence

[shell ridge]

Grind it

That should be a priority

[chrome cedar]

I'm on Loka 😭

[shell ridge]

Its ab amazing helminth

For the meantime use roar

[chrome cedar]

It's 3 whole galv mods for the whole thing tho

[shell ridge]

Ik

[chrome cedar]

Well I guess I'll have to grind for it, is his 4 that bad?

Actually nvm, do you have a Dagath build?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

U need your weapon to have either one inmate. Like Kompressa

[shell ridge]

No

[tight sigil]

Would ocuccor with sentient surge and arcane casscadia be good with Uriel? Got him built out trying to decide what to use with him I don’t have the predos

[old marsh]

Ye

Whenever in doubt. Test in sim

[shell ridge]

Its not that his 4 is bad, its just that its unusable beyond base sp, and nourish can affect your sentients

[maiden oracle]

Any tips on how to make this more survivable on SP?

Or just better in general I guess

It's the funny spam 3 build

[shell ridge]

Get rid of constitution

And dont use eq, your 2 should be solvibg ur energy needs

[maiden oracle]

Any ideas what to swap those two out for then

[shell ridge]

Duration and strength mods

[maiden oracle]

Constitution is there for the sole purpose of duration

[shell ridge]

Replace con with a better duration mod or strength

[maiden oracle]

Don't have anything else better than it rn so

Swapped Eq out for Trans Fort tho

[shell ridge]

Forgot abt this but replace it with thermal transfer

[maiden oracle]

Aug?

[shell ridge]

Yeah

Makes ur weapons do tons of blast

[maiden oracle]

I always forget they exist

Ooh noted then

Oh wait is this like

A seperate damage instance like with Xata's

Or added onto a weapon even if it doesn't have it

[shell ridge]

Ill add onto this

Its not but if u pair thermal tranfer with xata's and phenmor it messes up the damage calculations or something and does crazy amounts of aoe damage

[maiden oracle]

Oh gods

On that note I'm assuming the sacrificial ability is usually Mach Rush

[shell ridge]

No usually if ur running a weapon platfor build u get rid of his 2

[maiden oracle]

Oh alright

That's what I did with my WP so nice

[shell ridge]

Cause in higher levels like late sp endurance if ur not 100% 1 hit gets rid of ur entire battery

[maiden oracle]

Oh

[thorn oak]

corrosive blast kohm or viral heat kohm

[shell ridge]

With or without xata's whisper

[thorn oak]

without

[shell ridge]

Prolly viral

[thorn oak]

im just gonna play and see what feels better

[chrome cedar]

Oh ok, I understand

[green forge]

Can anyone with new vauban tell me if your active bastille still collapses into vortex when you throw a new vortex out?

[old marsh]

It shouldn’t. Is that doing for u? New bug?

[green forge]

That was how it worked previously as intended, if you had an active bastille and then threw a vortex out, it would collapse all bastilles into vortex

[late hemlock]

I dont think they changed the functionality?

You use to be able to collapse manually by throwing a bastille in the same spot

Should still do the same thing afaik

[old marsh]

Oh. Forgive me. I read it as throwing a new bastille would collapse the old one into vortex
It’s little over 4 am for me

[green forge]

I do wish it wouldn't do that, it just makes it inconvenient for duration strats especially with the new reworked bastille augment

[slender palm]

Guys, do you have any idea for more power strengh for my Nidus ?

I know i can change Umbral Vitality by Parasitic Vitality, (11% more strengh), but i want to at least be able to give the link in the most consistent way possible

Sitting on 502% power str in Arsenal (because archon shard)

[late hemlock]

Specter Nokko for brightbonnet?

I don't remember if a nidus can use a specter nidus

[thorn oak]

im wanting fire rate, would shotgun barrage be better than magnetic strafe for damage

[strong roost]

Whats looking good for vuban?

I would like to try out somthing good for farming.

[hollow scarab]

is there smth i can do to this to keep the automatic fire being good but also make the charge mode better? cuz rn the auto feels like its just holding on while the charge feels like it does jack

other than "max the mods"

[near vortex]

three sources of base damage

[hollow scarab]

?

im not exactly sure i follow

[near vortex]

heavy Caliber, Serration and merciless are all the same damage type

Usually you only want one or two

In most cases one

[hollow scarab]

ah ok, what should i take off then?

[near vortex]

Don't need heavy caliber for sure
Accuracy penalty hurts

[hollow scarab]

so swap that for like crit chance?

[near vortex]

I'm guessing you are still pretty new so not many arcane options

[near vortex]

Yeah something like that

[hollow scarab]

im not exactly new im just not amazing at builds

i hit mr30 not that long ago and ive been around a while

[near vortex]

Heavy Caliber can be good but not on a weapon like this

I see it used on AoE weapons with Multishot to increase the effective area in a way

[hollow scarab]

i am still working on arcanes for primaries but i have shit like crux and dextarity and all that. its more the newer ones that i havent gotten maxed yet

like bulwark is still r0 for example

[near vortex]

Overcharge would be good to max if your frame has the energy pool

[hollow scarab]

vauban is my frame atm, the rework has me actually using him

my overcharge is r2 cuz im lazy and just using dissolution lmao

[near vortex]

Get bulwark r5 then, take off heavy caliber and you get to choose if you want Serration speed or not

[hollow scarab]

aigh

[near vortex]

Vauban gives armor with his 4th so he can max out Bulwark

[hollow scarab]

ok good to know, running him with pyrotechnics and hotshot (also not maxed cuz genuinely f DTA)

[fierce lark]

deep temporal archimedea

[near vortex]

My hotshot is r4, ETA isn't usually hard but sometimes it can suck

[fierce lark]

assassinate the fragmented effervon

[fierce lark]

you can buy hollvania packs from arcane dissolution now

get hotshot that way

[hollow scarab]

its not exactly that i cant do it i just do not enjoy the forced loadouts

[hollow scarab]

thank the seven lmao. gonna take a while but its smth

[near vortex]

I really like forced loadouts
Makes me have to put thought into what I run

[hollow scarab]

yeah but 9/10 its always weapons i dont like using because the way they feel doesnt feel fun to me. even if they are good

[thorn oak]

i really cannot figure out if blast corrosive or viral heat feels better on this kuva kohm

[fierce lark]

same

also makes you realize just about any gun can function at a high level when built correctly

[hollow scarab]

i usually run viral heat but corrosive is also good

[near vortex]

Mhm

[hollow scarab]

yes. the stug CAN clear sp lmao

[near vortex]

I have a friend who's been unironically using the stug because he got a riven

Its kinda working

[hollow scarab]

the other reason i hate ETA tho is my teammates always either bring garbage stuff or they leave mid mission after they get a horde on them and youre just stuck either on your own wor in a 2 man with gear that can handle it but not especially well

[thorn oak]

i just figured blast and corrosive would be better since i have crux on the kohm so blast gets max stacks very fast

[fierce lark]

my choice of glaive is halikar wraith purely because of a riven

in practice it feels pretty much the same as the coda pathocyst lol

[near vortex]

You see I'm more of a Falcor person myself

[hollow scarab]

the falcor riven goes hard for light throw room clear

[near vortex]

My cold crit damage riven for blast influence goes hard

[fierce lark]

i was too but riven is a good copium for using unpopular weapons

halikar is just the reverse of that

instead of blast riven on the forced elec glaive it's elec riven on the forced blast glaive

[hollow scarab]

anyone else kinda wish the ambasador would give you a sniper scope in charge mode? doesnt have to give extra crit on zoom or even have that much zoom at all but it puts this little scope looking thing on the side when configured that way and it makes me wish we used it like one

[fierce lark]

"want scope" might be the hottest take of all time

[hollow scarab]

do yall play with them off?

[near vortex]

I like scoped weapons in squads
Because I can play invis and kill things while allies have aggro
Way easier to headshot

[hollow scarab]

yeah ^

[near vortex]

Little homeless in single player though

[hollow scarab]

the precision mode gets a scope to be more precise and then you put it back and it goes back to the normal aiming for full auto

[near vortex]

My brain is fried

I've been driving an excavator for two hours

[fierce lark]

you allowed the enemy to destroy an excavator

your work was for nothing

[near vortex]

This one doesn't get cryotic

Top speed of like 2 mph

[fierce lark]

it just gets cry

[rain sleet]

So if I’m reading the wiki right, it’s not worth it to run adaptation on caliban right?

I should just use something else like redirection or another defense mod

[hard dove]

Neither press 1 when need shield

[rain sleet]

Noted

[severe haven]

Can anyone share and/or explain to me what am I supposed to do with the Scourge Prime for the Mirage Prism build?

[summer dawn]

point and click?

[hollow scarab]

any help making oraxia actually feel good to play? (i can do shards but im just not throwing a pic cuz i dont havy any on her rn)

[severe haven]

No but like, does the Sourge need a proper damage build or more of a stat stick approach?

[fierce lark]

what feels bad about her?

[hollow scarab]

idk she just isnt feeling like shes all that strong when i see ppl saying she is

[barren viper]

i ahve nourish on 2nd ability for weapons platform max

[hollow scarab]

it just feels like all my abilities dont do much is why im asking

[barren viper]

dont use camisado honestly

[near vortex]

does not matter
alt fire is the only thing scourge tends to care about

and usually statstick doesn't go beyond like Serration

[hollow scarab]

what should i use instead?

[barren viper]

the hp thing i forgot name

[hollow scarab]

the new one?

[barren viper]

like str based on hp with 72 str

[hollow scarab]

belicose?

[barren viper]

yes

[barren viper]

why steelcharge xd

and prep

[hollow scarab]

i thought it buffed her 1

prep is just cuz that was a free slot for me

[barren viper]

u shoudl use oraxia for weapon buff

[hollow scarab]

and it was that and psf lol

also why take her 2 off? isnt that a damage buff ability?

[barren viper]

i think its pretty small aoe and kidna hard to land while perma dashing and stuff

i like noursih better

personally

[severe haven]

I use this on my Oraxia, with bellicose and blessing, you can probably run the new health tank arcane easily.

[barren viper]

this is my build u can use ur own stuff if u like

[severe haven]

But you can do a lot of things with her honestly, it depends a lot on what you want her to do.

[hollow scarab]

noted, ill probably use this as a base then

[fierce lark]

i would use crepuscular and molt vigor/augmented, personally

[fierce lark]

crepuscular helps and you need high strength and to be wall latching a lot to keep up the doubled buff on her 4 and being invisible for crepuscular

[dusky flare]

What is better crit Laetum build or elemental?

[fierce lark]

crit laetum is the superior version and it still runs 3 elemental mods

(unless faction calls for otherwise)

[hollow scarab]

yeah isnt that one just literally the laetum build but the stats are just better

its just a direct upgrade

[dusky flare]

is this one good?
https://overframe.gg/build/315013/

[severe haven]

Ninjase builds are for the most part pretty good, so yes.

[near vortex]

crit is better for headshots
non crit is better if you aren't headshotting

[dusky flare]

i have torid incarnon for AOE

so i need something to oneshot single targets

[near vortex]

would you be willing to use a melee slot

[fierce lark]

copying this from someone who actually did the math and showed me

Enervate Crit Laetum Average CD: 6.13x Base Damage: 1560%

Galv Diffusion {} Lethal Torrent
Target Cracker {} Bane Mod
Corrosive 90% {} Corrosive 165%
P Fulmination {} Magnetic Might

Non-crit Laetum average multiplier: 9.94x
Base damage: 480%

Galv Diffusion {} Lethal Torrent
Viral 60/60 {} Viral 60/60
Heat 165% {} Bane Mod
P Fulmination {} Hornet Strike

Average Outburst laetum Crit multiplier: 7.66x
Base damage: 1200%

Galv Diffusion {} Lethal Torrent
Target Cracker {} Bane Mod
Corrosive 90% {} Corrosive 165%
P Fulmination {} Accelerated Isotope

Total multipliers on all sides put you at:

Enervate Crit Laetum: 1 × 6.13x (CD) × 16.6 (Dmg) × 3.9 (MS) × 3.55 × 4.15 (elemental) × 1.55 (faction) = 2,183x

Non-crit Laetum: 1 × 9.94 (multiplier) × 8 (dmg) × 3.9 (MS) × 3.85 (element) × 1.55 (faction) = 1,850x

Outburst Crit Laetum: 1 × 7.66 (CD) × 13 (Dmg) × 3.9 (MS) × 4.15 (element) × 1.55 (faction) × 1.22 (FR difference) = 3048x

[dusky flare]

wdym

[fierce lark]

there are multiple melee weapons that excel at oneshotting

[near vortex]

Are you using your melee slot already for something?

[dusky flare]

no

i never use melee

[near vortex]

Does this take into account heat DoT

[near vortex]

You want a melee that can solve single target for you?

There's several

[dusky flare]

i used so many forma i dont think i want to invest more

[fierce lark]

i don't think so, but also nothing is stopping you from running primed heat on crit builds instead of magnetic or fulmination, devouring kinda runs out of stuff to add lol

bear in mind this calculation is purely body shots as well, and no external crit modifiers like puncture or some frame buffs

[blazing cosmos]

So since sun god vauban is dead and so is seizure Oberon, who do we have left for absolute game blinding frames?

[fierce lark]

uriel with a really bright energy color

[blazing cosmos]

Is it to that degree though?

[fierce lark]

no idea i've never experienced oberon or vauban tism

[blazing cosmos]

Like. My vauban was BRIGHT

[fierce lark]

bear in mind this calculation is purely body shots as well, and no external crit modifiers like puncture or some frame buffs

this alone makes me prefer that build just by nature of not being excluded from running it on hotshot frames or frames with crit buffs (i play a lot of dagath and uriel)

[near vortex]

I feel bad for your teammates who had to repair their computers after this

[fierce lark]

there are a lot of frames that interact positively with crit

speaking of which i don't think hotshot ember is the play, too hard to keep up

[blazing cosmos]

I need a replacement

Build*

[tranquil plover]

anyone else feel like they kinda nerfed flechette orb?

[blazing cosmos]

It feels about the same

[near vortex]

Limbo can make screens piss yellow ig

Zarr Mirage can flashbang

[tranquil plover]

due to the pull of tether it makes the flechette hit less i think

[blazing cosmos]

I dont think anything can achieve the greatness that was sun god vauban

[tranquil plover]

still sorta works actually

also you can just slap down overdriver next to a cliff and mark it

curiosity will get the better of them

[near vortex]

Even better
Get an orokin cell drop right next to the cliff

[tranquil plover]

YES

[solar reef]

Any of yall played Dagath for a while?
Need opinions on subsuming Nourish over her 1st.
It replaces the Viral status her 1 exists to spread, and with her augment can you reliably spread doom in place of her 1?

The root of the issue here is energy econ and i’m trying to decide if its a reasonable trade off

[rain sleet]

after some time I finally found a dagath build I truly love. I love her as a caster frame so i built into efficiency and energy orb stuff. Now i can just endlessly spam her abilities.

I forgot how much i loved this frame

[old marsh]

What’s your skill rotation?

[rain sleet]

1 then 2 then 4

sometimes 2 then 1 then 4

[old marsh]

what about 3?

[rain sleet]

i press it at the beginning of the mission and forget about it

[old marsh]

[rain sleet]

when i go down it gets consumed and i get back up

[old marsh]

Makes sense

[rain sleet]

it just works™

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[rain sleet]

I really just use it as a free revive in the case i go down

which with how often im spamming my abilities and with brief respite is not too often

now i just need to find a color palette I like to use with the new skin

[old marsh]

Anything dark on secondary. Red or any other u really like on everything else. Try it

her abs r more visible in darker color.

[rain sleet]

oh ur right

[mental ivy]

how would i build around this braton riven for steel path? idk if its good or meta but i rolled it myself and it looks decent as an unexperienced riven person

[fierce lark]

run the augment

for the 3

and a ton of duration

makes you generate health orbs on kill for equilibrium, makes you apply doom on-hit with everything, and makes you immune while it's active

[shell ridge]

Really good riven

Build it like any other rifle

Then choose what to replace with the riven

[summer dawn]

how do I stop WF from minimizing when I open something on the side?

[crisp flare]

yo can anyone give me a good build for venka prime steel path i really need it

[night laurel]

borderless fullscreen

[quiet laurel]

just CRAB SWEAT

[night laurel]

keeps wf open when you tab out

[crisp flare]

okay im not new but not that old on warframe what does crab sweat mean

[crisp flare]

ty bro

[shell tundra]

How good is Vauban’s Photon Repeater augment?

[summer dawn]

is this railjack build okay?

should I take ion burn out?

[glass rampart]

With the rework it's p fire

[mighty flare]

no, you should always keep the speed mods before anything else

[near crater]

Hey y'all. I have to ask: is the Grinlok genuinely not good or am I doing something wrong

I have the Prisma through invasions because "cool bolt action DMR" and wanted to go with headshots and the like.

[shell tundra]

How do I improve Vauban’s health economy or is it rolling guard and brief respite the whole way down?

His kill capacity is nice, but I just had to stop a run because I got swarmed while fighting an acolyte

[celest sparrow]

legit the same thing but less crit dmg, lol

[agile tree]

Gotta love riven rolling

How do we feel about mirage just an absurd amount of strength, kullervos sub, arcane fury, molt augmented, and literally any decent stat melee weapon it’s almost like a instant damage cap

[novel bear]

Use a glaive or exodia contagion to double dip eclipse

[agile tree]

Yup yup

Exodia contagion

I also have condition overload with a primer

But other than that I personally couldn’t think of anything else to increase the damage

Anything I could change up?

[kindred raft]

if I see another shield-gating build, someone's gonna die

[agile tree]

Boy do I have news for you

[kindred raft]

shield-gaters gotta understand not everyone's a masochist

[late hemlock]

Some frames are heavy spammers anyways so its just the playstyle

The issue is that certain players try to force shieldgating on frames that arent so its miserable to play

[agile tree]

I mean the big green is scary regardless

[kindred raft]

using ninjase' build but got rid of the unnecessary shield-gate mods

all I just need is the photon repeater augment

I do have tesla bank so I'll probably use that for the time being

[lavish orbit]

Ninjase's build are optimized, shieldgating is the most optimized way to survive on most frames

[heavy bluff]

this torid setup is just dumb lol, I get blinded by red crits

could prob make it even better with primed mods but im broke

[scarlet parrot]

So did the vauban update happen or not yet

[lavish orbit]

Was yesterday, for me atleast

Something like 14h ago

[severe bough]

Ye the problem is how your stayn alive tho

[severe bough]

Use corro blast and u can use smth else for galv appitude

Fire rate mod bane whatever

[true talon]

hello how to know where the mods drop?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[ancient sierra]

Could someone recommend a level cap saryn build

[late hemlock]

Lash + roar + sobek is infinitely scaling

[ancient sierra]

Figured someone was gonna say it😭

[late hemlock]

If it works dont fix it lol

[vapid crane]

If you want to do the same but with a melee instead of Sobek, Dual Ichor with their incarnon modded for gas.

not instant kills but the damage still scales well

[lavish orbit]

Oraxia's signature whip is also a thing

[late hemlock]

Saryn makes most stuff scale well tbh with just dose + lash + roar so if you really try id imagine most stuff get kills

[fierce lark]

nira's mods are there bc i used to take jat kittag, if you aren't using a slam build replace them with power drift/rolling guard

or primed sure footed if you have it

[ancient sierra]

Ok Ty

[near vortex]

Jat Kittag

[vapid crane]

True

[near vortex]

Its a slam weapon with acid shells lite

[fierce lark]

acid shells but it has like 5m range instead of 15 or w/e it is

[vapid crane]

There's a secondary augment with similar performance to Jat Kittag as well iirc

[near vortex]

Detron

[vapid crane]

Just run all three, full loadout lol

[near vortex]

Thermagnetic shells

My Saryn loadout is like
Sobek Ocucor Praedos

Pretty bog standard Saryn slop

[fierce lark]

im on my hema arc

[sonic comet]

I'm trying to make a Uriel Steel Path build but I'm not sure what all I need

[glass rampart]

Max Range, reasonable strength, and healthy amount of duration

[sonic comet]

I figured I need to get more range mods

[glass rampart]

I usually use arcane concentration

[fierce lark]

max range is if you care about brimstone having max range, nothing else needs it

[glass rampart]

That's true

[fierce lark]

you can leave range at neutral in favor of more strength and duration if you want

[glass rampart]

But brimstone is just such a good room clearer

[narrow granite]

opignions? :V [yes I gotta max that arc precision one day..ik ik]]

[glass rampart]

This is a ninjase build if I've ever seen one

[narrow granite]

ninjase? xD

oh shiiet void cascade omnia fissure

[glass rampart]

But yah I'd say it's good

[night laurel]

cascade omnia and i'm at work. hellish

[nova swift]

Im biased but definitely give a merulina guardian build a try with a crit based pax charge sporelacer. Your magazine turns into your burst count and your reload time the burst delay

You have to like the skating though

Also, for loyal merulina its casting speed is dependant on your eff

[white lodge]

Should I keep rolling?

[fierce lark]

as long as you never fight grineer

lol

it's low dispo so an ideal roll would be toxin cold FR/MS

assuming you're using a kuva grattler

[white lodge]

Yeah I am, Firerate and ms is the best for it?

[fierce lark]

is that showing stats for grattler? or kuva grattler?

the kuva one only has 0.7 disposition, these stats seem high

[white lodge]

probably for the regular.

[midnight horizon]

I love how they cannot see how strong Uriel is hahahah

But I guess they want him to be stronger

[fierce lark]

yeah, given the low disposition an ideal roll would be viral mods to free up a slot + something beneficial, preferably fire rate

what you have would be good but it's signifficantly weaker against grineer so, you may want to reroll it

[midnight horizon]

What's the purpose of dispo in rivens?

[white lodge]

Well just using it on EDA/TDA and the perico battle atm

[fierce lark]

balancing, more or less

[midnight horizon]

Wdym?

[fierce lark]

weapons are released with super low disposition, and over time based on their popularity it may go up with each prime access update

[coral crest]

To keep more popular, newer weapons in check and give underused weapons a way to become stronger. They used to buff and nerf the disposition

They don't nerf it anymore so it stopped making sense

[midnight horizon]

Ohhh

[fierce lark]

with nerfing out of the policy, incarnon genesis came in and broke the game

[coral crest]

I imagine if they kept doing so, something like dual tox and torid would've had minimal dispo

[fierce lark]

now you have the best weapons in the game also having very high riven dispositions

[midnight horizon]

I what way?

[midnight horizon]

Speaking off.. Torid and Burston has 4 dots on riven dispo (might check again but yeah)

Is that the reason they are so expensive?

[fierce lark]

magistar, nami solo, dual toxocyst, furis, burston prime, strun prime, torid

all top tier weapons in their category, all with very high riven dispo

[fierce lark]

yes

[midnight horizon]

God damn.....

[fierce lark]

high disposition on a top weapon is exactly why those rivens are so expensive

[midnight horizon]

Ooooof

[white lodge]

Can you see riven disposition on weapons you don't have the riven for?

Because I don't see a riven dispo for the Mausolon for example

[late hemlock]

Its in the arsenal screen

Archguns dont have rivens

[white lodge]

Then.. what is the kuva grattler..?

[late hemlock]

Huh didn't know they added archgun rivens lol im just seeing what weapon this was about

[fierce lark]

archgun rivens have been around since i think arbitrations lol

[late hemlock]

When were arbitrations added i dont have the context

I stopped playing before they were a thing im p sure

[white lodge]

Ngl pretty brave to comment on something then : p

[fierce lark]

oh no they were added shortly after

arbis have been around since 2018, archgun arcanes were added to the arbi store sometime in 2019

[astral tinsel]

gotta check the wiki

the in-game dispo display is only approximate anyway

[white lodge]

oof its horrible

[fierce lark]

yeah i wouldn't trust their star system

[manic hawk]

What are the best stats on the vinquibus riven?