builds-discussion

[frigid river]

any thoughts

[midnight horizon]

I have Nautilus for priming only........ That's it

[midnight horizon]

You don't even need that much

I once have Uriel, no forma and no reactor that time and I was able to deal damage enough to kill lvl 500 and above

Just simple of strength

Blind rage I guess is that?

So you telling that is pretty much obvious good, bc there are no bad build for Uriel

[frigid river]

fair but iam trying for level cap lol

[tawdry trail]

arcane battery is an interesting choice, uriel is tied for having the lowest armour in the game with yareli

armour shard?

[frigid river]

heath converg

[tawdry trail]

nvm just saw health conversion lol

[midnight horizon]

Pure strength and your good.... Trust me, Uriel procs SO MUCH heat that lvl cap is easy

His heat proc becomes more faster the larger the health his enemy has

[frigid river]

oh real

[midnight horizon]

2 is his survivability 3 is assist heat and 4 is just.... Heat

[midnight horizon]

Yeah base on what I see, it keeps on procing so much heat the higher the enemy health

[mossy juniper]

yeah need to get that mod variant

[frigid river]

bet ty

[midnight horizon]

Good luck g

[mighty flare]

precision --> archon intensify
are you using equilibrium shards instead of the mod?

[frigid river]

yeh

[midnight horizon]

Equi shards? That exist?

[frigid river]

purp

[midnight horizon]

Ah I don't have that yet

[mighty flare]

yea then just get archon intensify over precision and it looks fine

[frigid river]

oh?

[midnight horizon]

What does Intensify do and why again?

I am thinking A Vitality only

[frigid river]

same ill look into it tho

[midnight horizon]

Ye

[fierce lark]

conversion battery is...a choice

[midnight horizon]

Hahahaha

[frigid river]

gives lots of energy to spam

[fierce lark]

it's barely more energy than primed flow

and if you're trying to go to levelcap the armor isnt useful

[midnight horizon]

You don't need it actually

You don't even have to spam

Heat is heat

[frigid river]

spam for 4

[midnight horizon]

Eh I subsume 4 for anything

Still good

[fierce lark]

what

[frigid river]

brother

[midnight horizon]

Yeah

Guess I'm the only different player here

[fierce lark]

i mean i guess if you want weapons platform uriel that's really the only option lol but oof

[midnight horizon]

Yup

But before you react.... Config are there for a reason.... Like

[frigid river]

fair but damn\

[midnight horizon]

Bro don't be stupid

I have the full build on config B but subsumed 4 on config A

I love how you all reacted hahahaha

I subsume Uriel anyway bc I got bored

[lavish orbit]

if you only use health conversion for battery and not even persistence or other synergies that's a big loss of space, better put 1-2 archons shards for energy and get an other arcane/mod

[mighty flare]

healing abilities grant you extra ability strength, works from his minions
wouldnt do conversion + battery for energy, a bit roundabout and primed flow is usually enough

[midnight horizon]

He makes the game too easy bc of how he is so easy to mod and use

[fierce lark]

ember staring from the back window

[midnight horizon]

Poor Ember

[fierce lark]

i think if you were gonna subsume uriel's nuke and make him a weapon platform, ember kinda does it better

minus the funny torpedo

[frigid river]

i was doing it for a more tanky build but true and i believe position is more damage on 4

[midnight horizon]

Oooo aight I'll buy her after Cedo and Hydroid prime

[fierce lark]

im not saying i think ember is hot shit™

[midnight horizon]

Well...... She is a Hot Shit ya know~

[fierce lark]

but iirc her heat buff has a way bigger number and it's not tied to a pickup like uriel's

[midnight horizon]

What does iirc again?

[fierce lark]

she doesn't get a fire rate buff buuuut shrug

if i remember correctly

[midnight horizon]

Aight

[fierce lark]

300+% heat damage is a pretty fat buff to anything

[midnight horizon]

Yeah imma get Hydroid tho bc I heard he has good armor and fcking good weapon buffer

[midnight horizon]

Why do you hate Uriel bro

Hahahah

[frigid river]

red duration purp equilibrium

[mighty flare]

same element, different method, uriel's is like resupply where its force procs while ember is just large heat mod

[tawdry trail]

not sure if I'm remembering correctly but Uriel might be a better platform for certain weapons, at least the sobek

[frigid river]

my main weapon

[tawdry trail]

I think his buff is an additional hit rather than added damage situation

[fierce lark]

uriel has the funny acid shells thing yeah

[tawdry trail]

that might be about it though

[fierce lark]

he gets screwed over by inherit though, less so than ember since she doesn't passively give everything heat status

and her buff actually buffs heat dots, uriel's just procs a guaranteed one

[lavish depot]

is there a way for diriga to proc archon stretch?

[fierce lark]

yeah, by existing

if he does damage with arc coil it will proc archon stretch

[lavish depot]

i believe i read somewhere theres need for another mod involved for it to proc it?

[wheat fable]

Do you guys have any tips on mods to help the sentinels to survive? i recently got a Nautilus Prime and, while it helps a lot with damage due to the Verglas + Duplex Bond, it often blows up on regular Entrati Lab missions

[fierce lark]

not for arc coil, it does electric innate

but if you add manifold bond then it'll also apply every single status on the weapon

at a 100% rate

i think arc coil's base status chance for elec though is only 10% though so not sure how good energy sustain it is

[next dune]

is there any other ways i can improve my panzer's revive time or something? i just added restorative bond because i'm not sure what else to use. i've been maining uriel and i use a lot of caster frames

[tawdry trail]

medi-pet kit reduces recovery time

tenacious bond also reduces recovery by 3 seconds on headshot kills

[next dune]

yeah i just looked at that and replaced restorative but i just dont like the downtime it tends to have in harder content. i also dont try to precision shot often. i'm more of an ability or spray and pray

[tawdry trail]

I don't like the downtime either, companions can be really strapped for mods and they don't get access to all that much in terms of survivability

[mighty flare]

aerial bond then, spray in pray while mid-air

[tawdry trail]

oh for a panzer in particular you could use panzer devolution

stops you being able to manually revive but reduces the timer to 30 seconds

[nocturne spindle]

Wait why would you have a panzer without devolution that's their signature mod 😭

[tawdry trail]

probably bc the other signature mod makes it an insane viral primer

but yeah it definitely seems like a good slot

especially if the other revive reductions work on it

can any panzerheads confirm

[next dune]

because devolution locks it to 30 secs, and as far as i know, no mods can reduce that. and i cant manually revive it if i want to

[pearl onyx]

chat if i wanna use primed reach should i replace berserker fury or elementalist

[tawdry trail]

yeah it doesn't seem like the reductions from bond mods apply

[next dune]

i used to use it, but now that all pets are immortal, i see it as a less necessary mod

[pearl onyx]

also as a panzer head devolution is goated

and viral quills

[next dune]

viral quills is the whole reason i love the panzer

[pearl onyx]

this is my guy shes a 4x4 with a crescent head

[next dune]

how do you have 4 mutigens and antigens on her?

[pearl onyx]

long and annoying breeding set up

you need 4 panzers to start with then slap each gens on each one

[next dune]

yeah i only made one

[pearl onyx]

and be sure to set up the gens in a way that the cosmetics look good

then get lucky with the breeding and hope you get the looks you want

[fierce lark]

deevolution makes it so that your panzer never actually dies

[next dune]

no pets die anymore

i used devolution for that express purpose

[fierce lark]

i promise you they die all the time in high level content

[pearl onyx]

this is my mod set up on her, synth fiber and synergy r optional

[next dune]

what i'm trying to do now, is make ways for it to recover faster

[fierce lark]

when it does “die” it effectively becomes a sentinel for 30 seconds, sitting at your shoulder, spamming viral quills, and retaining all of your bond mod buffs while it’s “dead”

[pearl onyx]

^

thats the best part of devolution it keeps bond mods up

[next dune]

but no bond mods can help it recover faster right?

[fierce lark]

no but who cares

it’s doing the same things dead as it does while alive

[pearl onyx]

its either you run momentous OR devolution

[fierce lark]

you’re missing out on some claws dps but that’s hardly an issue

[next dune]

i mean if that's the case then the move is to go back to devolution

[pearl onyx]

slapping them on together doesnt speed anything up

[next dune]

i also have debated replacing redirection with something else too. just not sure what

[mighty flare]

momentous can revive it quicker but relies on eximus, however you can overlap with other recovery resources
devolution is fixed 30s and still keeps bond mods, but messes with viral quills and invis
its just personal preference

[pearl onyx]

seriously tho if i wanna use primed reach what should i replace elementalist or fury

[next dune]

i usually dont touch anything with invis

i want help with my stahlta build, but earlier when i asked chat was dead af

[mighty flare]

when ur vulpa dies normally, viral quills remain
with devolution, they are removed when it becomes the larva but is compensated by larva shooting its own quills

[mighty flare]

take out gas and use all 3

[pearl onyx]

gas strong tho

[mighty flare]

its not

messes with electric weighting which is purpose of influence

[pearl onyx]

mkay now i got a open slot

what should i put there

[fierce lark]

replace gas with weeping wounds primed reach

we love extended stick

[pearl onyx]

oh weeping wounds i forgot bout that]

[late hemlock]

Truly the melee of all time

[pearl onyx]

youre so smart

[fierce lark]

incarnon melees with 8+ range are the warframe experience

[midnight horizon]

bo prime my fav

[pearl onyx]

i get a 12.71 m range

[fierce lark]

slam attack

[pearl onyx]

14 i replace weeping wounds with spring loaded blade

[fierce lark]

nahh

im guessing the riven is elec status range

[pearl onyx]

elec, crit, range, -Fd

[midnight horizon]

whats -fd

[pearl onyx]

finisher damage]

[fierce lark]

finisher dmg

[midnight horizon]

oh

status is better than crit ngl

thing got 62% sc

[fierce lark]

shocking touch might be better depending on numbers lol

the riven should prob go over reach

[midnight horizon]

nah go all out on range ong

[pearl onyx]

heres the stats

[fierce lark]

oh nah goat riven

[late hemlock]

Maybe overkill with primed reach if thats the riven tbh

[pearl onyx]

nah the swing is awesome

[late hemlock]

Not gonna argue

Gotta love big range

[pearl onyx]

imma record what im seeing

[severe bough]

Always range maxxing fr

[midnight horizon]

screw that go range

[pearl onyx]

son

[late hemlock]

Just get a bit more range to 20m and ditch influence

[pearl onyx]

look at this

do i get rid of disciplines merit and use opportunity's reach

cuz thats a 3m on heavy attacks

[midnight horizon]

discipline is too good of a qol

the range dont matter when you got 10+ range already anyway

[pearl onyx]

yeah its 14 vs 17m thats farther than fetch

theres no point

[spark thorn]

Im ready for tomorrow now

Make it time now

[old marsh]

100-150 coz good rolls. Not ideal but good

[spark thorn]

Just a touch of crit damage

[next dune]

what gun?

[spark thorn]

Soma prime pre incarnon genesis

[old marsh]

Soma. See the riven

[next dune]

wasn't looking that closely lol

[spark thorn]

The riv is nearly a godroll

[late hemlock]

No elemental damage and heavy caliber? What is this abomination

[spark thorn]

rolled 134% multishot 179% crit damage -slash.

[old marsh]

we dont judge here. calm down

[spark thorn]

I have a pet priming and the -accuracy boosts the spread of the incarnon

Like the shotgun spray

[old marsh]

u want Crux if u wanna run Hata Satya

[spark thorn]

I dont have access to that one and im broke

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[midnight horizon]

why is modding guns so much more difficult than melee like 99% of the time lmao

[spark thorn]

I just took the multishot because its what i can afford

[old marsh]

then carry on.

[spark thorn]

And frostbite is even more crit damage

Nautilus with coolant leak activates it for me

No slotted cold needed

[old marsh]

ye. but Hata Satya is what really ramps up your Soma. u want almost 100% ammo efficiency to up keep that CC like Ocucor

throw in energize muni and u r balling

[spark thorn]

Im sure but that will have to wait until i can afford crux or get my factions done

Im only like rank 3

[next dune]

i used to use frostbite on my dual torxica but someone said cold was crap and so i swapped to the fire arcane and changed things around

[spark thorn]

If i had crux id use it though

[plush brook]

In what cases is Vile Acceleration > Speed Trigger?

[next dune]

doesnt va drop dmg?

[spark thorn]

Status primers that dont care for base damage id assume

[old marsh]

cold has its own place. run what u want tbh. torxica's passive is really good regardless

[plush brook]

How do you distinguish these builds. Top build for Dread on overframe uses Vile Acc, but I'd assume the hit to damage is undesired on Dread

[next dune]

yeah just felt like i needed more dmg. and i've been maining uriel since old peace dropped. haven't had this much fun with a warframe in a long time

[spark thorn]

The dread like the charge speed more than it cares about the tiny damage penalty

[next dune]

you also have to take in the fact dread has an incarnon and see what the stats the adapter drops onto it

[plush brook]

Ah okay, tyty

[old marsh]

its generally better but if your weapon has low starting dmg then u may wanna avoid it.

[next dune]

there could be an evo that nearly bypasses that dmg reduction

[plush brook]

Wouldnt it be better on those weapons since its a % decrease and not a flat decrease?

[midnight horizon]

How good is dread Incarnon tho?

[spark thorn]

Negatory. % negatives are more detrimental the higher the number is. Base damage is more impactuful at lower numbers.

[old marsh]

not really. coz your aim is to have multiplicative sources of dmg. so u kinda want your base to be decent

[old marsh]

its a bow. i hate it. case closed

[midnight horizon]

Fair nuff

[fierce lark]

because winfluence ruined the game

[midnight horizon]

I'm more into guns too guess I'll stick with the Cedo hahahha

[spark thorn]

Tiny numbers lose more from flat loss. Big lose more from %

[midnight horizon]

just dont use it

[fierce lark]

yeah ok

bet you use guns that aren't the torid, too

noob

[midnight horizon]

I dont use guns

and is it so hard not to name-call people

[fierce lark]

someone called me "torid boy" once

i was very unsure what to feel because i didn't even have the adapter installed yet

[midnight horizon]

so you take it out on me?

[fierce lark]

ye

[midnight horizon]

great

[fierce lark]

(i hope you realize im joking)

[midnight horizon]

no thoughts head empty

[fierce lark]

reverse gaslighting ic

[midnight horizon]

jus roleplaying my pfp

[abstract axle]

anyone have any spicy tech to make persistence saryn work? I know you can spam regen molt, but I don't want to have to press it 5 times a second

[midnight horizon]

I use nikana with amalgam daikyu

[abstract axle]

the lifesteal weapons work, but I was hoping for a loadout agnostic condition

[midnight horizon]

just look for any source of lifesteals, makes maintaining hp easy

[midnight horizon]

whatchu got in mind

[abstract axle]

i'm thinking molt reconstruct

[midnight horizon]

that might work

but that also warrants the need to spam abilities a lot

[abstract axle]

that plus regen molt gives 200ish health per cast

hunter adrenaline will refund you 90 mana for the trouble

and it costs 77

no, I did horrid math

its 6 healing per mana

77* 6 =350

[midnight horizon]

so you gonna combine that with regenerative molt?

[abstract axle]

testing right now, but molt might be irrelevant

regen*

[visual marten]

Hello, is there a voice chat for the Warframe game?

[midnight horizon]

in the game itself? yeah theres a setting for that I think

[midnight horizon]

alrighty. that just leaves your energy

[fierce lark]

health conversion arcane blessing companion lifesteal or hema/basmu or melee with life strike

it's ass but it's the best i can come up with

if you try to do it the above described way you're gonna be spending like 5 mod slots just trying to make health tank saryn work

[abstract axle]

nah, im cooking way bast that at this point. triple umbral meets armor and health (1000 and some change so 2 seconds to not die) and you just need two casts per second with the arcane

three mods, 2 arcanes, but one mod is just umbral intensify and that slots anyways

[late hemlock]

Health tank saryn when molt for shieldgating exists seems like so much extra work when it comes to needing more mod slots + arcanes, don't think its worth all the effort

[abstract axle]

shieldgating is rather mana intensive for how often she needs to do it

[midnight horizon]

its definitely worth

[midnight horizon]

77 energy a pop too

im so tired of spamming molt

[abstract axle]

energy is also trivial with health since adrenaline gives us more mana for the health gained than we spent for it

[midnight horizon]

I havent had good experience with adrenaline

[fierce lark]

shieldgating is either levelcap or cope now anyways

circumvent exists and works up to like 1k

[drifting parrot]

Build for burston prime guys?

Im mr12 btw

[night laurel]

hell yeah brother

[fierce lark]

but if you did want to rely on shield gating you can run aegis + catashields and pflow or swap blind rage for transient and you have a lot of molts

saryn with pflow has like 800 energy lol

you don't even have to molt, you can tap/hold 1, costs half as much

[old marsh]

ye

[fierce lark]

i dont even run flow on her because 300 base is enough to get through a full buff rotation lol

even with br

[drifting parrot]

I need a burston prime build bruh

[tawdry trail]

burston likes crits and it has an exclusive mod you can get from arbiters of hexis

standard damage, multishot, and some elemental damage

[drifting parrot]

Uhm.... I dont know much abt building builds... im.only mr12 too

[fleet field]

Is this a good mod setup for Voruna?

[tawdry trail]

what do you have on it already?

[drifting parrot]

Nothing it js got built

[tawdry trail]

I see

definitely need serration for base damage, and possibly split chamber for multishot if you have it

point strike for crit chance, unless you have critical delay

[plush brook]

What is the best damage on Dread (generally)? Pure physical (slash)? Viral? Heat? something else?

ps. I dont have incarnon yet

[glass rampart]

Naw

You need max range for voruna

Also you don't need to invest into survivability for her too much. Archon vitality is enough

She's invisible 70% of the time and the other 30% you're gonna be nuking rooms of enemies til they can't hit you anyway

For arcanes use Impetus. It's best in slot for her because of her 2

Also if you can use Prey of Dynar because it increases her 2's range by 150%

[odd dome]

Yeah both her 2 and 4 augments are good

[glass rampart]

I personally don't use her 4

I subsume roar over her 4 because I rather use a melee weapon or just nuke entire rooms with her 2

[odd dome]

Same

Brief respite is goated for that

[glass rampart]

I'm just invis 90% of the time

Voruna is pretty much always 265/280 range or ur throwing

[fleet field]

Can one of yall show me an example of what mods and arcanes I should have on her?
Still getting used to having to think about what mods and arcanes to install for how far I am in the game

[glass rampart]

I have cunning drift in exilus and arcane impetus and truculence

[fleet field]

I’ll give those a shot🙏

I just got her today so I still have a lot to learn about her skills and how to use her properly

[glass rampart]

I'd put in augur reach but I don't have enough mod slots

I believe ability strength on her corresponds to status damage

So you want that at a decent amount

Duration for her 1. Archon continuity should be enough

[fleet field]

Alrighty

[glass rampart]

Dump efficiency

If you have equilibrium your 3 should always be active and giving you energy sustain

[fleet field]

Since I read her abilities before I got her I definitely want to focus on ability strength since she mainly seems like a dps frame

[glass rampart]

She's a melee frame

[fleet field]

Yes

[glass rampart]

You're gonna use her with melee 90% of the time

[fleet field]

Yeah lol

I’ve been using my ichors more than my torid lately lol

[pearl onyx]

Chat what's a strong secondary for fortifier that isn't the laetum, nukor, or epitaph

[glass rampart]

I use Dual Keres because I'm based

[glass rampart]

Anything with high fire rate

[fleet field]

I use ichors bc of incarnon😎

[glass rampart]

Torxica :)

[thorn oak]

anybody use nova a lot?

[glass rampart]

Also She really benefits off of archon mods

[odd dome]

Nova is my most used frame

[glass rampart]

How good is she :)

[odd dome]

Best frame in the game

[thorn oak]

how do u have her built

[valid wind]

what is a good build for garuda? non prime

[glass rampart]

I was thinking of buying her

[glass rampart]

Max range

Max range and a lot of strength

[fleet field]

Which ones should I use? I think I have them all

[upper oriole]

Just unlocked Steel Path w/ Yareli Prime. Does anyone have a good build for her ? Currently using Nataruk as my primary weapon. I can attach my mod loadout in a bit !!

[valid wind]

ok

[odd dome]

High range, 150% str, high duration

[glass rampart]

If you have the slots, all except intensify

[fleet field]

Bet

[odd dome]

I use felarx for antimatter drop and reload it with synth set and the evolution

[thorn oak]

interesting I had built a lot of strength on her for the multiplier on antimatter drop

[glass rampart]

You don't need full umbral on her

[odd dome]

I also have a hotshot build that I just use generic powerful crit Incarnons on

[glass rampart]

Overkill. Merulina provides 90% DR

[tawdry trail]

yareli has some of the lowest armour in the game, modding for more does not do much

[glass rampart]

Here's mine

[tawdry trail]

a good secondary weapon is also nice to pair with yareli for her passive

[glass rampart]

Yep. I have psf because I use akarius

[upper oriole]

Bet thank you !! I’m still unsure of modding properly, so my modding skills are ass

[fierce lark]

my eye twitching after seeing triumbral

[glass rampart]

Triumbral Saryn read it and weep

[upper oriole]

I don’t have many good weapons currently bc of my MR. Gonna rank up and get better ones. Also thought I was supposed to use all three umbral mods to get the benefit or nah ?

[glass rampart]

Nope. They improve mods in the same set but you can use one or the other

[tawdry trail]

you still get good strength from umbral intensify alone, and it's not always worth using two other slots with one mod in mind

[glass rampart]

Triumbral is overkill and a waste of mod slots especially because umbral vitality and fiber have better alternatives

[odd dome]

3 umbral only works out of all 3 improve your Warframe meaningfully. Yareli has terrible armor and good defense with merulina already

[glass rampart]

So health tanks

[upper oriole]

Got it. Keep Umbral intensify, take off the other two. Thank you. But with Merulina, I have the Loyal Merulina so how would that work for her in terms of defense ?

[tawdry trail]

the damage redirection still applies

[glass rampart]

Yes

[odd dome]

Yeah you still get the DR, you can also press the button for invincibility frames

[glass rampart]

I subsumed aqua blades for xatas

[tawdry trail]

more bubbles

[odd dome]

I don't think merulinas armor applies or something weird with loyal merulina but it's w/e

[glass rampart]

I forgot how much str you need to get 90% dr

On merulina

[tawdry trail]

I think it's always 90%

[glass rampart]

Wasn't it 75 minimum

[upper oriole]

I don’t have the helminth yet. I have the BPs and material to unlock it, but room is still closed for me.

[glass rampart]

Unless you're using surging blades aquablades kinda suck

[upper oriole]

Nah, don’t use surging blades but I’ll start now that I know.

[glass rampart]

They also require priming and a specific setup iirc

I suggest just sticking with loyal merulina. Having 2 slots taxed for augments don't feel good

I'm a gyre player. I have experience

[odd dome]

Yeah it's like a different build

Just make your helminth and put banshee in until you start getting better helminth options 🙂

[upper oriole]

Got it. Thank you. So no surging blades mod, but when I finish unlocking helminth, replace her ability cause it’s an ass ability. Got it 🫡

[glass rampart]

I tried sentients wrath but Idk if DV stacks

[upper oriole]

And since her armor is low, I shouldn’t mod to make it better ? I should just focus on her health and abilities ?

[glass rampart]

Just focus on her abilities

[upper oriole]

Sorry if these are dumb questions

Got it, thank you !!

[glass rampart]

Her health is fine. She has 90% DR with merulina

Like maaaaybe put adaptation on top of it for 99% Dr but like

You don't need it

[upper oriole]

I appreciate your help, thank you. The arcane mods I have on her are fine or should I also change those to focus on her ability/weapons ?

[fierce lark]

slightly late but yeah i get a hand-in-face reaction to seeing triumbral because it's painfully overrated and rarely a good idea

on most frames it's either completely trolling, or usable but not ideal

[glass rampart]

Arcane pistoleer

[fierce lark]

i would put yareli in the former lol

[versed harbor]

buff triumbral real

[upper oriole]

Put her in the former what ? You too cryptic my guy

[fierce lark]

in the “triumbral is trolling” category

[dapper nimbus]

how long is my weapon supercharged ? it's not showned anywhere (or i am stupid (probably))

[upper oriole]

Aight bet. I’d add you to that category too since obviously you not too much of a “helper” anyways. Take care 😌

[latent latch]

Can anyone help me with a hate build?

[velvet pulsar]

Right, the dagath questions have begun...

[night laurel]

because theres better alternatives (that doesnt require a really rare forma to fit in)?

[mighty flare]

for 11.7 seconds

is shown by the time invulnerable number

you wanna bump that number up alot actually, thats pretty low

[fierce lark]

it’s trolling when you’re putting on on frames that don’t want to use health/armor to tank for one reason or another

usually shitty base stats

on yareli in particular, unless you’re using loyal merulina, health and armor mods are dead slots

they don’t affect merulina

[upper oriole]

Great, NOW he decides to be helpful. Thank you for a proper explanation, finally 🙂‍↕️

[fierce lark]

my apologies, my quip was meant to be humorous for the chat, not an attack on you

and since i can see that you are using loyal merulina, i will mention that triumbral is still awful

because her base armor is 105, she gets almost nothing out of it

Yareli can’t really health tank with base stat mods

[night laurel]

thanks! I just laser-focus on the intensify + vitality occasionally

[fierce lark]

44% strength is rarely bad, vitality is usually in the same spot as fiber

actually i think the bigger issue is that frames that need more hp don’t have base hp to begin with, so vitality does nothing and you’re better off using arcane blessing

[fleet field]

Alr here’s my progress so far for Voruna, it needs work and I need to get blind rage for it to be complete

[fierce lark]

on inaros it’s great in theory, but why does he need more than 6k hp lol

[glass rampart]

If umbral intensify is below 30% then use regular intensify

[fleet field]

Bet

[tawdry trail]

my biggest gripe with hydroid

why does a frame that can buff his own armour to such ridiculous levels have so much shields and measly health

[fleet field]

I don’t really remember where I got arcane impetus, where do I get it and/or possibly farm it?

[tawdry trail]

1999 missions

[fleet field]

Alrighty

[potent marten]

You can also open arcane packs

[fleet field]

Sounds simple enough lol

[night laurel]

grendel was made to be a health tank and they still gave him a SLIVER of shields! what am i supposed to do with 65 shields.. i trip and it's gone

[potent marten]

Shield gate like he's gauss

He's the single best shield gating frame aside from gauss

[tawdry trail]

it's pretty funny what frames they decide to take shields away from

[potent marten]

No wonder they're best buddies

[glass rampart]

Grind the hex and buy it from ellie

[night laurel]

very "glass is half full" mindset I like it, do you think i can slap on fast redirection or catalyzing shields and call it a day?

[night laurel]

1. literally bone-dry lank mummy
2. a lump of flesh

[tawdry trail]

3. kullervo (?)

[night laurel]

IKEA knife block

[potent marten]

Cat shield, dragon key, fast deflection and arcane aegis and you're literally unkillable

[fleet field]

Funny enough I’ve been doing that all day lol, the only problem is I can’t get the stupid bts poster for next rank

[night laurel]

thanks boss

[tawdry trail]

I like that inaros and nidus don't have them bc it feels thematic and I'm not sure how I feel about kullervo but that's probably because I'm old

[night laurel]

bts poster

[glass rampart]

Dont you dare compare on-lyne with bts

On-lyne was my childhood

[night laurel]

did on-lyne save your life?

[fleet field]

It’s because the poster looks like one from afar😂

But I’m also grinding hex so I can get the Pick A Side track

[fierce lark]

thankfully at least he can cope gate

because when you’re playing hydroid you bash 1 until your keyboard breaks

smite infusion enjoyers:

[tawdry trail]

it feels like such a waste but it's so much more effective

[velvet pulsar]

CC + circumvent

The answer to most frames

[fierce lark]

circumvent is the best arcane ever released

one slot universal plug & play survivability

[velvet pulsar]

Circumvent saved CC

[fierce lark]

also it’s bugged, i think if you roll through an enemy that’s mid-transformation it’ll strip it twice

[tawdry trail]

goated

[fierce lark]

like enemies becoming corrupted or thrax spawning

[velvet pulsar]

If that's true then it's also true for ragdolled enemies

Multiple hitbox

[fleet field]

Time to grind bounties until I get this stupid On-Lyne cd bc it’s supposedly a “common”

[velvet pulsar]

Only useful for stealing shields though

[fierce lark]

i took my lvl 0 ivarap to a cascade fissure and every time i would roll through a fresh thrax, it would lose all of its overguard and armor lol

[karmic prism]

do i just slot this in instead of critical delay

[tawdry trail]

you can do both

[karmic prism]

and maybe buy r5 primary deadeye

[karmic prism]

whay should i put on the other slots. to know what i forma

[fierce lark]

you’d put it in addition to rather than instead

[tawdry trail]

probably vital sense if you're going all in on crits

[fierce lark]

you don’t want to be doing 0 dmg while you’re stacking galv scope

[tawdry trail]

once you start being able to do steel path reliably you'll end up with heaps of deadheads

not super worth buying

[karmic prism]

its just that im kinda trying to get high fire rate and fast reload

[fierce lark]

is this reconifex?

[karmic prism]

i think im able to clear earth sp easy with atomos incarnon

[tawdry trail]

nagantaka

[tawdry trail]

as long as you can kill acolytes you're able to get deadhead

[fierce lark]

oh yeah there’s a riven right there

[karmic prism]

my torid incarnon tickles in comparison to my atomos

[tawdry trail]

although merciless does have a reload speed bonus

[fierce lark]

if you really want reload speed, run merciless

don’t run a radiation mod

[karmic prism]

is that a mod

or the arcane im using XD

[tawdry trail]

the arcane yeah

[fierce lark]

it’s the arcane

[karmic prism]

im running the r5

it still tickles sp mobs

[fierce lark]

reload speed is very low on stat priority, there’s usually downtime when you can fit in reloads

[karmic prism]

i shread 60-80 mobs with atomos and can clear 100-150

with torid i feel like it very weak idk why

[dapper nimbus]

wich one should i put for this ? (incarnon)

[fierce lark]

put the elec mod at the bottom and drop toxin mod, replace it with vile acceleration

[tawdry trail]

it might depend on the evolutions, I notice your status chance is lots higher than your crit, so swapping for a crit evolution could bump up your damage

[fierce lark]

also you want the hybrid final evo, not the pure status one

248% status looks way too high

[karmic prism]

ty @fierce lark

ill try that

[velvet pulsar]

Persistence + this:

[tawdry trail]

I like primary debilitate on the boar, you could possibly swap out magnetic strafe for whatever the radiation mod is since that works nice with debilitate

[fierce lark]

wait a minute

bro you have over 200k endo

[velvet pulsar]

Reduce strength threshold

[fierce lark]

please max your mods lol

at LEAST max chamber, it’s used in almost every single rifle build

[dapper nimbus]

the raditon + magazine capacity ?

i think fire rate is better no ?

[fierce lark]

debilitate is a meme priming tool, it doesn’t have good enough output for practical use

[velvet pulsar]

U can meme it further

[fierce lark]

whatever status damage you’re looking to do with debilitate, you’d get more out of rubbing the pure element with crux or a dmg arcane

rubbing

rub the element

[velvet pulsar]

2 green tau shard for +6 corrosive cap, which means you'll reach 10 stacks on status capped enemies and proc toxin + electric on bosses

Will I do this?
Nope.

[fierce lark]

enjoy your max 4 stacks of elec and toxin

lole

[velvet pulsar]

I'm about to do a cursed thing

I'm gonna put a strength shard on lavos

[fierce lark]

5x energy orb effectiveness

[karmic prism]

yeah but look at my credits

[coral crest]

Why not

[karmic prism]

i dont wanna bankrupt that fasti like buying bps

and crafting stuff

[coral crest]

It's just a mean to achieve your goal

You're not putting an equilibrium shard on him

[velvet pulsar]

Not all of my 6 configs use strength

There's atleast one which just uses valence formation for Grofit Maker meme runs.

[pearl onyx]

gonna try vasto fortifier see if i like it more than fortifier nukor

if i do im sicking all my omni into this thing

maybe get a riven

[fierce lark]

a few rounds of high wager index or hollvania safes will fix that

[karmic prism]

holvania safes? do i need rep for that

[fierce lark]

nope

[karmic prism]

im also kinda close to rank 5 solaris

but i dont really have amp stuff ready idk if you need that for orb like eidolons

[fierce lark]

i can’t speak on profit taker but it’s the best credit farm if you want to learn it

[karmic prism]

i think ill just try the index. seems safe

should i forma the - polarity

i cant slot it in

also people told me not to max serration and wait to get amalgam

[odd dome]

you can also unlock exilus and move that to crit delay

[karmic prism]

i cant slot crit delay into exilus

[odd dome]

no, but you can move the polarity to the crit delay (recent change, update 38?)

[fierce lark]

you would unlock it and move the polarity, but that’s only worth it if you’re going to eventually actually use the exilus

[karmic prism]

how do i do that

[fierce lark]

forma are cheaper than exilus adapters

[odd dome]

actions > swap polarity

[karmic prism]

i mean i got vigilante supplies

something like this @fierce lark

or the middle one

[fierce lark]

the 15/15 one

[odd dome]

+9 ammo

[karmic prism]

solid?

[odd dome]

oh im dumb yeah w hat they said 🙂

[karmic prism]

and max galvanized mods first i guess?

my credit account 💸

[fierce lark]

serration is slightly less important since you get damage from merciless but chamber ranks are big

[karmic prism]

now i only want to forma when i get amalgam serration and also use vigilante supplies right

[fierce lark]

you won't need to forma to add amalgam serration

but putting one on vile accel will give you exactly enough room to add a rank 0 vig supplies

you will eventually need to add 2 more to fit primed cryo rounds

[night laurel]

btw, what makes Hounds so good for synth deconst priming vs say a panzer vulp>

[karmic badger]

More elements? Also manifold bond

[torpid lark]

whats the best way to farm archgun xp?

[night laurel]

huh.. gonna check that out. what about MOAs?

[night laurel]

salacia neptune

i dont know if gravimag/summoned archguns give xp

[torpid lark]

i got no rank 5 on that. and im farming larkspur its easy but mausolon its so hard

[night laurel]

salacia neptune is a mobile defense AW mission with alright enemy density

[coral plank]

I have rank 3 Universal Fallout, its pretty good for Sevagoth with a Hound

[icy drift]

is tigris prime still a good option to build i recently came back after 2 years and loved that weapon

[karmic badger]

Manifold bond is available to all robots, and the chicken head moa has a tether mine for bons mods to transfer through. Also, moas get to for sentinel weapons

[astral tinsel]

not really

[late hemlock]

The fall of tigris

[astral tinsel]

tbf it fell when they fixed shotgun status

[coral crest]

Tigris Incarnon

Trust, stock on rivens

[astral tinsel]

way back in 2020

[night laurel]

I NEVER LEFT !!! 🗣️ 🔥

[night laurel]

objectively better than, say, priming with Diriga, or is it personal pref?

[late hemlock]

My entire profile is stone age most used lol

[karmic badger]

Diriga is probably better, buuut, at this point, imo its basically just an academic difference

[astral tinsel]

the in-game usage percentages are weird

[coral crest]

priming with Diriga
Doesn't Diriga also prime with manifold

[night laurel]

I have the uhh fake Vauban dog

temu hammer of sol

[coral crest]

2m radius

That's not a hammer

[night laurel]

well

paddle of sol?

also, Null Audit as good as it is on paper?

[icy drift]

can you send me your build please i wanne take e look 🙂

[night laurel]

never come to me for builds man it's bad

i need to take that Point Blank off lmao this is an old rarely-used build now

[icy drift]

good lord that riven

[late hemlock]

Why the anti recoil mod, you should embrace the recoil

[night laurel]

didnt know what to do with the extra cap 😔

[late hemlock]

Would it even be a real shotgun with negative recoil

[night laurel]

tigris dispo update to 5 and i'll record myself bringing this to the H-09 Apex

[coral crest]

It can become good

Can

I prefer Repo Audit

[midnight horizon]

Hey everyone! I need a build for Ivara, for Steel Road! 🥺 pls

[coral crest]

The 30m wave applies manifold

But if you want your dog to suddenly nuke a room with blitz eximus aura

[night laurel]

i swear, coming back to the game after interminnent hiatuses feel like constantly finding cash in your pockets you forgot about
gonna run equiriblriblrium with repo audit and reflex denial

[small moth]

hi, i have a question, can ik why is melee influence better than melee exposure overall? like whats the reason?

[astral tinsel]

it has a range of 20 metres

[karmic badger]

Melee biggest weakness is a lack of range and aoe, influence gives melees said range and aoe

[astral tinsel]

with no falloff

and no target limit

[karmic badger]

Melees already have ludicrous damage, what they lack is an effective way to apply it on mass

[late hemlock]

Which is why influence is so uncontested

[karmic badger]

Vortex tries

Afflictions is usually used for slams, so there's a bit of range already

[astral tinsel]

with melee vortex you're usually hard limited to <= 10 targets due to follow through

[karmic badger]

It has its use cases, mainly khora for strangledome

[torpid lark]

my railjack sucks and i dont know what to do

Best Archgun?

my railjack sucks and i dont know what to do

best archgun?

[uneven halo]

is vermisplicer with haymaker and killstream good?

[night laurel]

should i try to fit in Serration somewhere? Phenmor

[karmic badger]

Yes, its multiplicative with the 2000% damage perk

[winged summit]

Is this good mod?

[gaunt minnow]

How should i go about building the miter? I also have its incarnon

[midnight horizon]

Focus what it wants

Critical? Or Status?

What are the mods needed?

That's how I mod my guns

[gaunt minnow]

I think its a status weapon

[midnight horizon]

Do you have all evos for mitter inc

[gaunt minnow]

Nope

Doing that now

[midnight horizon]

Get it first and see what it can do

Bc I'm sure it needs smth like a viral and Heat

But I always use Corrosive Cold... Bc my Nautilus gives Viral

[gaunt minnow]

Its incarnon form give it innate heat so prob viral heat

[midnight horizon]

Yeah you can do it

[astral tinsel]

you're already running deadhead and gaptitude

so there's probably better options

I wouldn't use that riven either, at 0.6 disposition you need a really good one to outperform regular mods

[night laurel]

it's only for the -40% crit it has

[astral tinsel]

that's an 8% dps increase

[night laurel]

huh. have any recommendations? i'm at a loss with this gun

[karmic badger]

60/60 mods

Could probably replace wildfire with magnetic capacity and slot in thermite rounds

[astral tinsel]

forced non-crit with 20% SC is a weird spot

[karmic badger]

Now you have viral heat and magnetic for overguard

[astral tinsel]

I'd even consider vigilante armaments?

[karmic badger]

Also, since base damage is multiplicative, the diminishing returns by stacking several isn't as bad

So genuinely, gaptitude, deadhead, and serration can be worth

There's technically faction mods but that's crinj

[astral tinsel]

yeah now that I've done the math, you'd need 6 status effects for it to be worse than armaments

[night laurel]

testing this in netracells rn, with spectral serration (subsumed evade) and modded for rad+magnetic

[mental flame]

how can i make this build better? it's an ignis wraith

[dreamy quartz]

Is multishot on Onos good?

[old marsh]

General rule of thumb. Multishot is great on all beam weapons

[deep grotto]

Multishot is good on essentially everything

[dreamy quartz]

Mmmmh
Mhm
Makes sense, thank you

[dreamy quartz]

Thank you as well

[edgy lance]

is this the meta arbi saryn?

[lavish orbit]

There's meta ?

Did you come from Thacker server after he got pirated ?

[edgy lance]

yeah

[edgy lance]

no

[lavish orbit]

Molt efficiency into concentration

[edgy lance]

people keep asking me to meta build my frames when i join a party, but they never tell me what is a meta build

[lavish orbit]

Bellicose is useless with her, even with a Wisp, better put molt augmented if needed

[noble depot]

A full blast damage build for dual coda torxica?

[edgy lance]

well she does get 500% health as mission bonus

[lavish orbit]

In that case yes, iirc if you don't go over 2k hp bellicose is less that augmented

[edgy lance]

yeah true

[lavish orbit]

After that, it seems ok

[edgy lance]

hopefully XD

thank u

[stiff flower]

what is the best Sword and shield in the game?

i think i ahve them all except baruuks lol

[versed harbor]

argo and vel for regular play

tenet agendus for influence

uh not sigma I mean the duviri one lol

[stiff flower]

argo and vel. ill throw up my argo and vel build :o im using it with rhino

[clear turret]

does boreal mods stack with aviator?

trying to mod titania and noticed both of them reduce damage taken in the air

[stiff flower]

got any feedback?

[odd dome]

it does

[clear turret]

ooh cool

[brittle sleet]

They don't stack additively, they stack multiplicatively, for the record

Aviator + Agility drift + Aerodynamic + 3 Boreal set = 83.9% damage reduction while airborne (83.9488)

[clear turret]

OOH

wait actually... thats bad

[brittle sleet]

Also worth noting, is that Titania specifically can't use the full Boreal's set while in Razorwing, because swapping into Razorwing basically overwrites your loadout weapons with the Dex Pixia and Diwata

[clear turret]

oh interesting

[brittle sleet]

So your polearm and its bonuses disappear

But yeah I can't think of any separate damage reduction sources that stack additively with each other

So you could take that aforementioned value (slightly lowered because no full Boreal's), add in Adaptation, and Titania's Thorns buff, and Arcane Guardian or something for a big armor boost maybe, just to see how tanky you can get

[clear turret]

yeah ok im gonna try 😁

[celest thicket]

say you want some mag capacity on your secondary , is there any reason to use slip magazine over ice storm ?

[odd dome]

no, unless you didn't want cold for some reason, or had primed slip magazine

[celest thicket]

man they really need to change the capacity cost on slip, or make it exilus dunno

[late hemlock]

Plenty of mods are forgotten to time due to just being worse version of other mods now

[uneven halo]

is vermisplicer with haymaker and killstream good?

[late hemlock]

The reload mod on pistol gives less reload than the elementalist mod lol

[uneven halo]

yeah

[royal yarrow]

Quick to clearify me something for Hildryn
Would Blue shard (that i hate so much i wish to tear them off) extra shields be a good substetute in you dont have Red shards?
When you useing her Aegis Gale augment

[late hemlock]

Significant downgrade

Not only is it less shields per shard to begin with but it won't be scaling your actual abilities (pillage, the subsume, balefire damage)

[royal yarrow]

hm, i see

[nova swift]

if you run her with arcane expertise then red shards pretty much outscale blue shards regardless of your str/shield stats

[late hemlock]

Tbf if you dont run her with expertise its a meme build

[nova swift]

some old math I did if I should get 2 shields or 2 str, also if precision was better or not

[lavish orbit]

?

[nova swift]

I think now precision is more of a wash because of expertise, I also no longer run airburst so not a consideration anymore

[royal yarrow]

Its not that bad

I assume it could work at lower SP mission's

using just Shield shards and Precision

[nova swift]

oh yea definitely, this overkills most instances especially with enervate

any reason to squeeze more out of it is purely for a flex pick in EDA/ETA

and better performance against enemies shes weak against (acolytes, bosses)

[royal yarrow]

Its Enervate 100% it will extrerminate anything

[royal yarrow]

For sure

[late hemlock]

Str shards are 282 per shard its always better

Precision is a trap, using anything else during 4 even pillage instantly disables it

[deep grotto]

Tremor or macro thymoid
Secondary Vermisplicer isn’t very good

[nova swift]

ah that explains why im using umbral intensify, I forgot about that detail

[royal yarrow]

Also which skill would be good to replace on Hildryn
Just reading description for her 1st and 3th skill they dont sound that good

im probbaly 100% wrong

[nova swift]

her 1 you need for the augment

[uneven halo]

Oh

[nova swift]

so you replace her 3, the usual stuff works (xata, roar, air burst)

that being said vs infested you could argue to keep her loadout pure so you can restore shields with blazing pillage

[uneven halo]

Macro thymoid for crit and status hybrid?

[royal yarrow]

yes

[deep grotto]

Iirc the beams have some jank and either bug out when following enemies or tweak out when an arctic eximus or nullifier shows up

[uneven halo]

I thought using as secondary could be good for clearing

[late hemlock]

You cant replace 1 or her 4 is useless

Replace 3 because its terrible

Strongly recommend xata as it can headshot which you normally arent able to with balefire, huge damage buff

Xata triples itself on a headshot for reference

[woven lynx]

is this good for valkyr?

I don't like subsuming over 1

[patent igloo]

Seems very good to me

What do the talons look like

[royal yarrow]

I will go with Roar since i dont own Xata whisper in my Helmith

[late hemlock]

i dont think you can even cast roar during her 4th? honestly sounds super annoying to maintain

does work as a substitute though

[royal yarrow]

Roar is the substitute untill i gather recources to craft Non Prime Xaku

[woven lynx]

I have two builds that I kinda need testing on talons

Idk I feel like first is the best just because of raw damage and building for status is kinda shit

[royal yarrow]

One more quick on which skill to change but this time on Harrow
1st Condemn or 3th Thurible
Im thinking of swaping 3th for Evade

[woven lynx]

@patent igloo

Actually 3 not two

[undone dust]

usually his 3rd

[royal yarrow]

Thanks 👍

[celest thicket]

Which arcanes you guys use on lavos? I feel like he doesnt need strenght so basically whats left is survivability arcanes and the ones that affect weapons

I just noticed there isnt any arcane that affects ability range, huh

[nova swift]

personally run persistence/blessing/bellicose/impetus

[maiden portal]

Hey guys I’m new

[celest thicket]

I was running bellicose and grace but decided to ask if there was better options

[late hemlock]

he heals a bunch with his 1 iirc? do you feel like you need grace?

granted been a bit since i touched lavos at all

[nova swift]

if you run a pure weapons platform then arcane hot shot is a good pick, you can infuse heat on everything you do so its easy to keep up

[celest thicket]

true it is rather unecessary, i just like seeing the hp never go down while looking at the horde shooting me in SP

probly going to change it for blessing

[lavish orbit]

Persistence and Impetus I use, but Impetus is clunky to use, so I like to change depending of my mood

[celest thicket]

i would love to use it, if i didnt have to be the luckiest guy in the room or the richest have it

[nova swift]

Are you able to run ETA? I tend to sacrifice my last reward to pick valkyr/hildryn so I can ignore a lot of rng nonsense. You can always buy 1 hotshot a week that way

[late hemlock]

especially in EDA where the last reward is a tiny bit of vosfor easy to ignore

[celest thicket]

yes i am, dont you need to do have the entire setup + challenges to get Pix chips ?

[late hemlock]

you can adhere to as many modifiers as you see fit and it will just change your reward accordingly

ignoring one modifier (easiest to ignore is the forced warframe selection) to miss out on the single last reward is pretty easy to do and the loss is minor

[celest thicket]

oh i just went to check and you do get 6 pix chips in the reward pool , i thought the 9 pix at the end was the only way to get it

i had 42 pix chips just molding there lol

i should read more

[nova swift]

Yea you can always buy 1 hotshot if you really need to, I sacrificed escapist I think while I was maxing them out

worst case you cant buy booster pix/universal fallout if you miss the last bonus

[late hemlock]

iirc when you end up maxing your uhh forgot how they called, stickers thingy

duplicate ones give you pix chips so after doing eta for a while you will start getting more chips

i can understand wanting to max out eta for the 2 extra arcanes if you really want more copies of fallout and escapist, but eda definitely just save yourself the trouble and skip on the 50 vosfor

[dusk timber]

Hello everyone, working on Hildryn at the moment. How important really is the Haven ability to her kit? Is it too selfish to subsume that one?

[late hemlock]

it is THE subsume slot, haven is not important at all

gonna copy paste from above because we had just talked about hildryn

You cant replace 1 or her 4 is useless

Replace 3 because its terrible

Strongly recommend xata as it can headshot which you normally arent able to with balefire, huge damage buff
Xata triples itself on a headshot for reference

[dusk timber]

I feel like in this particular game, it not my job to keep others alive they gotta be able to hang

[celest thicket]

i probly got more vosfor from dex/deadhead/merciless arcanes than EDA could ever give me

[late hemlock]

yeah its a pathetic amount of vosfor

like non sp descendia gives you more vosfor weekly lol

i never bother with the last reward on eda i auto equip hildryn

eta depends on my selection, but its usually doable regardless in public at least one person will have a solid loadout anyways

[coral crest]

replacing 3 has one consequence though

blazing pillage no longer works. You can no longer bring Hildryn against infested reliably

[late hemlock]

using raksa kubrow makes her extremely reliable so idk?

not only are infested enemies just never hitting her anyways to begin with

[celest thicket]

cant you get shields back from the augment on balefire tho ?

[coral crest]

🤷

[gleaming oasis]

I figured I get ahead and get make a build for dagath before it finishes crafting tonight. any suggestions?

[coral crest]

not as consistently and in such high amounts

[late hemlock]

not worth using, only use aegis gale

[nova swift]

oh yea, you could also swap a priming hound for a raksa kubrow, that puppy can sustain her shields even with 45% eff

[narrow granite]

opinions on mi torid incarnon? :3 1: FF 2:SD 3: SE

[nova swift]

range is not as important as you think because it only affects doom range and the doom/scythes spread interaction

[gleaming oasis]

really?

thought it would

[late hemlock]

raksa is a must run on hildryn, crazy regen

[astral tinsel]

galvanized aptitude is only half effective

[undone dust]

camisado doesnt work on her

[astral tinsel]

because it ignores the +51 from first evo

[gleaming oasis]

her 4 doesnt count as summons?

[nova swift]

Yea, if you run spectral spirit for example any damage applies doom, so orphanim eyes do, tesla nervo's do, melee influence does too (and extremely well I might add)

[undone dust]

no

[gleaming oasis]

still havent gotten one sadge

[narrow granite]

o.o what would ya sugest instead of it o.o rifle elementalist/ hammer shot or primed cryo

[gleaming oasis]

ngl it should

[gleaming oasis]

so dont invest into range or only a little with like base stretch?

[astral tinsel]

I run the classic corrosive-blast with elementalist

torid is a high status beam weapon, so it's good to take advantage of that

(beam weapons are especially good for status damage builds due to the way multishot works on them)

[narrow granite]

fair... guess imma swap it with rifle elementalist

[astral tinsel]

you could also make use of the new primary debilitate

[nova swift]

I would say you run between 80-160 range up to what you prefer. Its def not a required stat with her augment in use

[gleaming oasis]

which abilities gain an range increase with mods?

[narrow granite]

imma keep it so is good for exi overshield

[gleaming oasis]

does the 4 have infinite range until the kaiths hit a wall?

so this is what we have now

[nova swift]

So the scythes hit around you (flat range) and seek an enemy (also flat range), doom reach scales with range but spectral spirit augment also applies it. Horses scale with duration I think

So the more duration you have the longer they charge

So its just the doom reach on cast and the doom spread on scythes that scale with range

[gleaming oasis]

so dur over range then

since the augment will apply doom automaticaly

[gleaming oasis]

hows this then?

[nova swift]

Thats really close to what I run yea. Maybe use arcane concentration as the other arcane so you have longer uptime on spectral spirit. Or maybe something like circumvent so you have easier ways then spamming 1 to stay alive outside of spectral

if you want helminth I would either remove 1 or 4, mainly cause removing doom also loses the damage buff and it will only store 35% of the damage with the augment

lil bit of inspiration c:

[gleaming oasis]

as for eventual archons I'm thinking 1 yellow for casting speed as it looks like the 4 takes some time and then probably the rest into ability strength

[nova swift]

maybe 1 equilibrium shard? You would have to check. Her passive is basically an arcane energize and really strong but your playstyle might use more energy

[valid brook]

im wondering if i should swap duplicate for influence and run elec on my glaive prime build instead (i'm using ninjase's nourish wisp build alongside it)

[gleaming oasis]

probably thanks for the help

[late hemlock]

slash is not what it used to be, not worth building around

[fierce lark]

glaive influence is bad

[lavish orbit]

Put at least 1 elemental mod, physical status modding is a loss of damage compared to elemental

[fierce lark]

it force procs slash on explosions and you can't spread slash with influence

[fierce lark]

swap carnis for killing blow

thats about as good as you can do with it without banes

killing blow should be there regardless for speed

you can put primed fever over power throw if you want, power throw is a bit annoying to use

[glass rampart]

I've been trying evade harrow. It's pretty funny

[fierce lark]

lasting covenant evade is peak nonsense

throw on zid-an sek-eel in case you screw up somehow

[astral tinsel]

just go with a different glaive for influence

xoris, falcor, or even coda pathocyst are all better options

[tranquil niche]

Is the Twin Vipers Wraith worth shoving a potato into?

Ooh, I'm orange now

[astral tinsel]

not unless you have a surplus or a weakness for meme builds

[tranquil niche]

I do indeed have a weakness for meme builds

[astral tinsel]

do you also have a reload addiction

[glass rampart]

Perma jnvis perma crit

They can't even see you

[astral tinsel]

but really, it has 25 base fire rate, 40 mag size and a 2s reload time

[late hemlock]

old weapon + no augment / incarnon = 🙁

[mossy juniper]

LF Chroma build to make lots of credits

[astral tinsel]

discharging your whole mag in a fraction of a second is fun, but the twin grakatas outshine them in every way

[ebon valve]

Should I get nekros prime or volt prime?

[lavish depot]

both have different uses, nekros being a good loot frame

[tame musk]

suggested build for zariman - tuvul commons
?

[odd dome]

volt

if you ignore desecate nekros might be the worst frame in the game

[ebon valve]

Ok

[fierce lark]

both are best in slot in different things, volt for a few meta farms including aya, nekros for general loot

[ebon valve]

Ok because I either want a summoner build or a nuke

[valid brook]

nooooo nekros my beloved

[fierce lark]

i haven't ever attempted volt nuke but just based off numbers i can't imagine it scaling very well into even low level steel path

summoner nekros at least has summoner's wrath buff and enemy level scaling, how bad could it be

i would want to own nekros prime to just have him anyways, efficient looting is an important resource to have and nobody does it better

you need a lot of orokin cells

to craft every prime weapon and frame

[brittle sleet]

Volt doesn't really do nuking but he does do wide area crowd control, which feels similar

[narrow granite]

should I keep comisado aracane or swap with bellinosa?

[brittle sleet]

It is worth noting Volt ALSO has one of the best summoner setups in the game though

[fierce lark]

swap it for concentration

[late hemlock]

nekros is fine for looting and he is definitely the laziest option but its not like there arent alterantives and those arent very high effort, so id understand having nekros at the bottom of your priorities

[fierce lark]

and tap 2/3 before you brimstone

[brittle sleet]

By subsuming Dessicate from Inaros and using the augment you summon his sand cats, and Volt has the best innate buffs for the cats to abuse

[fierce lark]

if you don't have arcane concentration, get it, it's one of the best duration sources in the game

[narrow granite]

fair idea xD

already got it for mi train daddy

[brittle sleet]

Worth noting as well for Nekros that his Desecrate is incompatible with that one Kubrow loot mod, unlike other loot frames

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure ore gaze nekros is pretty far ahead of other looting frames

[brittle sleet]

Still I'd definitely want Nekros in the reserves at least, he is very good at what he does no doubt

[fierce lark]

like sure he's not the only option but there's probably a bigger difference between him and khora/hydroid than between those two and a non-looter lol

[modern vale]

Could someone recommend a really powerful amp?

[brittle sleet]

...huh I could've sworn Ore Gaze didn't stack with loot on death abilities

[astral tinsel]

547

[fierce lark]

cantic phahd certus

[astral tinsel]

cantic-phahd-certus

[modern vale]

Okay, thx guys 💪🏼

[fierce lark]

where camisado

[whole rune]

nowhere

[ebon valve]

How do I find the mods in looking for

[whole rune]

I'm not using that lol

[late hemlock]

primed vigor yikes what is this 🙁

[whole rune]

extra health damage

synergy, it's called

[late hemlock]

you are using razor mortar...... yet you dont want to use the one arcane that eats off summons?

[whole rune]

don't really need it

[deep grotto]

Depends on what mod
Although the wiki is a good spot

[late hemlock]

and instead you are using bellicose?

[whole rune]

I do Hella bunch of dmh already

[ebon valve]

Ok ty

[deep grotto]

There’s no such thing as too much damage in this game

[ebon valve]

It was these

I’m trying to make the nuke build I saw on yt

[fierce lark]

why you using bellicose then

[late hemlock]

because he can get like 30% strength by using vitality and vigor? lol

[fierce lark]

if you think you have too much dmg then by all means something else for more qol makes sense

but bellicose is just less strength than camisado with no other upside

[late hemlock]

bellicose maxes out at 2980 hp for reference just to hammer in how much of a waste it is there

[fierce lark]

if you think caliban's ortholysts don't attack fast enough for camisado to hit max stacks consistently

trust me, they do

like, if you hit a small group of enemies you're usually back at 10 stacks by the time he's finished spinning

it may as well read "60% strength"

[whole rune]

me when i don't use what's meta:😹😹

[late hemlock]

its not about meta or non meta this is just like using a level 0 intensify instead of level 5 intensify in your build

[whole rune]

me when i need to stick to certain patterns instead of tryna do somth else

[fierce lark]

me when im offended about someone discussing my build in build discussions:

[late hemlock]

its not like you are building something off meta focusing on a niche part of the kit or build synergy

[whole rune]

haven't even said anything bro lmaooo

[fierce lark]

mhm

[whole rune]

bro needa take meds for panic ong

[fierce lark]

???

[whole rune]

nvm bro yo pfp is more than enough lol

not cuz it's anime, the anime itself

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-5385805585024966559

[tame musk]

to unlock steel path circut i need to complete all nodes in steel path right?

[tame musk]

me rn cuz i just unlocked steel path

[late hemlock]

no its just instantly unlocked

[fierce lark]

pretty sure you just need to unlock steel path

[odd dome]

no you have to do lone story and stuff on normal path

all 3 modes

[late hemlock]

i mean.... says it right on the picture lol

[tame musk]

estimated time to complete all that?

[tame musk]

forgive me

[odd dome]

10-15 mins?

[tame musk]

are u being fr?

[odd dome]

yeah its just a normal path lone story...

[tawdry trail]

it's just a regular run of duviri pretty much

[tame musk]

omg i thought it would be few hours atleast

[fierce lark]

lone story is 5 objs + orowyrm with no undercroft right

[astral tinsel]

with yes undercroft

[odd dome]

nah you have to do some undercroft, time depends on what undercroft missions you get and if you have a professional orowyrm wrangler

[frosty fjord]

it has undercroft but no extra side objectives

[astral tinsel]

two rounds every time

[fierce lark]

ah

[bold estuary]

is the flacor meant to be a status dot glaive or a crit glaive? I dont really know what im doing with this thing tbh

[fierce lark]

it's the second build but you drop viral co weeping for ppp volatile quick return elec and a steel mod

[late hemlock]

falcor is an influence glaive

wouldnt run condi overload because you arent priming

this is generally what im using

[bold estuary]

oh I dont have ppp

[pallid quiver]

Where do u get volatile quick return?

[fierce lark]

you could prime with it if you wanted, if for some reason you aren't doing enough damage to kill things already

but realistically that shouldn't happen

[late hemlock]

can swap the element for whatever damage bonus tbh, this is just comfort for me so i dont bother to change the mods

[bold estuary]

just umbra version or the regular?

[astral tinsel]

plus it does nothing on the AoE I'm pretty sure

[fierce lark]

sacrificial or galvanized, ideally sacrificial

[pallid quiver]

Beyond the funny augment what else should I be building on ocucor?

[late hemlock]

yeah probably want to be running double sacrifical i just dont wanna forma

[pallid quiver]

Damn

[late hemlock]

does good enough without as seen above

[fierce lark]

the usual viral heat pistol build but with funny augment in place of ppg

[pallid quiver]

Ppg is primed what now

[fierce lark]

pistol gambit

[pallid quiver]

Ah

I only have target cracker anyways

[late hemlock]

got spare if you need

[astral tinsel]

primed target cracker is the better one to get first anyway

[pallid quiver]

What does it do beyond normal quick return?

[fierce lark]

increases the explosion radius

[pallid quiver]

I just get them as I go from baro, only been here for 2-3 baros

[pallid quiver]

Ooh yeah that would be nice

[real ravine]

does sm1 have a caliban prime build? Its finishing building tomorrow so I c

[real ravine]

could take a look on what mods I should try to get*

[fierce lark]

primed gambit is only marginally better than creeping bullseye anyways

[pallid quiver]

Oh fr? What’s the max cc on it

[fierce lark]

187

[late hemlock]

here is a caliban build of all time

[fierce lark]

please do not share that

[pallid quiver]

I honestly don’t mind the accuracy loss from bullseye

[astral tinsel]

it's not insignificant