builds-discussion

[somber spoke]

im close to rank 4

[near crater]

I would add the Zarr to that, since it's also a single-load "shotgun"

[fierce lark]

isn't the zarr a rifle with rifle mods

[near crater]

U need R5

[glass rampart]

Should you build strength on mesa for Regulators base damage

[fierce lark]

in some capacity

[glass rampart]

How much approximately

[somber spoke]

im getting there just got back after 3 years its my first week

[glass rampart]

I'm guessing you don't need range at all

[near crater]

Ah damn right. Launcher with Rifle Mods

[somber spoke]

still havent progressed that far man but ty

[fierce lark]

as much as you want tbh, i just have transient + precision

[glass rampart]

No blind rage?

[fierce lark]

range is negative

no blind rage, strength isn't overly impactful, precision gives the same amount for the button you want strength on, and efficiency is kinda important

mesa just has a lot of mod space

no meaningful augments or weird modding caveats, doesn't care about range at all

run narrow minded and throw in all the stats ever

plus transient is enough on its own to hit the DR cap on shatter shield

[glass rampart]

Which is her 4 lmao

[fierce lark]

that + adaptation + the doubled health from archon vitality is enough to survive pretty much anything that isn't melee

[glass rampart]

Assuming we're running viral heat regulators

[fierce lark]

and if something is getting in melee distance you've done something wrong

or you can roll away with careen on a melee + mesa's waltz

corrosive heat, nourish over 1

[glass rampart]

Oh I was thinking Blast Toxin with A. continuity

[glass rampart]

Blast Toxin with Xata subsume

[somber spoke]

this is what im uj

[glass rampart]

And Archon c.

[somber spoke]

using rn

[fierce lark]

xata's is probably awful on mesa

regulators can't headshot which is really its main benefit

[glass rampart]

Ah I see

I'm assuming Nourish is for energy economy and Priming

[fierce lark]

it double dips headshot dmg and does double dip blast procs, but mesa doesn't have the crazy status output that would make me think blast is better than going full clint eastwood

nourish is just a bit of everything

viral to allow running both primed elements, more energy good

[glass rampart]

No primed convulsion unfortunately...

Maybe baro will be kind today

If baro brings primed fulmination and primed convulsion I die

[fierce lark]

if you don't have primed convulsion i would honestly run roar and run umbral/blind rage instead of precision, and mod viral heat regs

[glass rampart]

Why so?

[somber spoke]

ik this isnt where i should i ask but can i upgrade steel meridian while having red veil on it makes me change representative

[glass rampart]

What's with the sudden build change up? Is primed convulsion that impactful

[fierce lark]

the main benefit of nourish is letting you run a 165 electric mod to mix with corrosive and still have viral

[fervent rapids]

Steel Meridian and Red Veil are Allied, so yes

[fierce lark]

primed elements are a pretty big deal

[somber spoke]

i just have to visit him right?

[fervent rapids]

you can change your Pledge in the Orbiter

at the Syndicates console to the left of Navigation

[glass rampart]

Blind rage + roar then...

For faction dmg

[fierce lark]

granted, you don't have to do this and im not even sure if it is actually better, but viral+roar tends to be better than corrosive+nourish anyways and if you don't have primed elec then the advantage of nourish kinda goes away

[somber spoke]

i just went to him and upgraded didnt change the pledge ty tho

[fervent rapids]

went to who

[glass rampart]

Guessing you don't need enervate for regulatos

[fierce lark]

however

corrosive nourish builds will always do more damage to grineer and other heavily armored targets

especially if roar isn't doing any status damage, it applies twice to statuses, only applies once to raw dmg

so it's not crazy on regs to begin with

[fierce lark]

nah, outburst if you can be bothered to stack for it is best, otherwise flare

[glass rampart]

Gotchaa

I'm guessing we run Hotshot on Mesa too

[fierce lark]

oh yeah

[glass rampart]

My rank 1 hot shot

ETA only gives you like 1 per week that's so stupid

[limber delta]

i stopped at rank 3 hotshot because i cant be assed to get more

[fierce lark]

probably not worth running at rank 1

[limber delta]

i just sell the r0s when i get them

[fierce lark]

it's definitely worth farming up a maxed copy though

if it's only r1 just run molt augmented or impetus

[glass rampart]

I pretty much just do hollvania arcanes on arcane dissolution

[fierce lark]

it is a fun new gamble

[glass rampart]

What about in terms of archon shards

[fierce lark]

5 topaz secondary crit

[glass rampart]

Duration? Armour maybe?

Armour is a meme lmao

[coral crest]

We use persistence in this household

[glass rampart]

Duration or maybe green shards for- ah

I was thinkin max corro stacks

Full armour strip on corro with her 4

[fierce lark]

you can do 1 amber cast speed if you want

im a fan of stacking as many secondary buffs as possible since they wanna keep giving us more

[glass rampart]

Why not

[fierce lark]

if your build isn't ass, you will never see an enemy get 10 corrosive stacks

[glass rampart]

Add Zid-An Osbok

Why TF not

Or was it Haras

[fierce lark]

zid-an uskos is permanently equipped

[glass rampart]

Uskos

[fervent rapids]

enemies die long before they get to 10 stacks ideally

if not then your build has other issues

[fierce lark]

actually thats a lie my big sword has the initial tauron one

[glass rampart]

Naramon obviously

[fierce lark]

i should probably switch it to the invis one, that one gives tauron charge rate anyway and the other one has useless primary status, not like im shooting my primary if im equipping naramon

if you have all of the buffs stacked up (not including uskos), ETA enemies die in like 3 bullets lol

stacked regulators crits armored scaldra for over 100k

[night laurel]

you moron, you idiot. the patient can't run persistence and adaptation together

[fierce lark]

even missing primed elec and hotshot and outburst everything is still going to erupt

i dont think a single time in 8 seasons house has once referred to someone as a fool, or buffoon

he prefers moron/idiot

[glass rampart]

Is there any reason to run ETA/EDA more than once after you got all the rewards in the track even

[fierce lark]

no

[glass rampart]

It's Lupus

He needs it

[fierce lark]

you hide your vicodin in a lupus textbook?

it's never lupus

[glass rampart]

It's always lupus

Patient needs rat bites to be cured

[fierce lark]

dammit i got the quote wrong https://youtu.be/d3OPjDWtZ3Y?si=hXkOajVvlEutwI54

house, you are not infecting your patient with malaria

[coral crest]

rat bites

[glass rampart]

Estrogen would fix House

[fierce lark]

what the fuf

[glass rampart]

10 toxin 10 Corrosive 10 Heat 10 electric

[coral crest]

More like 10 radiation 10 magnetic 10 corrosive 10 viral

[night laurel]

house, you are not telling your patient to subsume energized munitions

[glass rampart]

You moron they need to put roar on their build

[coral crest]

House would never

He understands what people need to not die inside

[glass rampart]

House would tell me to use a faction mod fr

[fervent rapids]

the patient (Konzu) needs Kabuchi to live

[coral crest]

No more early lunches???

[glass rampart]

The patient needs early lunch to live

[coral crest]

They've been killing him

[glass rampart]

They gave him the wrong medicine

[coral crest]

Ostron medicine:

Wall meat (raw)
Wall meat (grilled)
Wall meat (boiled)
Hamster

[night laurel]

they gave him healthtank triumbral on a shield frame

[fierce lark]

i am now here to spread hemaganda

[coral crest]

Do you think Konzu is a shield gater or a health tank

[fierce lark]

konzu is nidus

[tawdry trail]

Konzu has an early lunch death gate mechanic

[coral crest]

So literally just Nidus

[glass rampart]

(house before nova rework)

You moron! you brought a slowva to a defense mission

[coral crest]

I can't believe it, another protoframe dropped

[glass rampart]

Built in Persistence

@fierce lark this is what i have on my mesa

[tawdry trail]

You can get a fatter crit bonus from orange shards if you get more yellow ones to make them

I think about twice as fat

[glass rampart]

im like super low on orange shards :c

or yellow for that matter

maybe i can like remove one of my reds to make a tauforged orange

[tawdry trail]

Me with blue ones

Everyone talks about having too many blues... I will take them 😀

[fierce lark]

topaz are 2x the bonus once you've stacked them yeah

[glass rampart]

also like how much duration? like just full send it?

[fierce lark]

they are pretty niche though so i wouldn't sac tau reds to make tau topaz unless you're a really big fan of mesa or oberon

...or qorvex, i guess

[fierce lark]

anything beyond narrow minded is personal preference

feel free to add pcont if you want

[glass rampart]

this is what i have rn

i'

i'll remove pillage later

[lavish orbit]

When you lack resources this is the worst idea you can give tho to combine red and yellow

[fierce lark]

looks identical to mine except i have a shinier duration mod

[glass rampart]

p. cont?

[fierce lark]

ye

and a shinier arcane

oh and corro proj

[lavish orbit]

With impetus you use encumber, archon continuity can make it proc corro over toxin

[fierce lark]

steel charge is just the token budget aura

[glass rampart]

i know i just dont have anymore madurai polarities

or forma...

[fierce lark]

impetus is there to get 36-42% strength for free depending on companion

[glass rampart]

I'll just use preparation for exilus

[fierce lark]

i would not make my regulators a lot worse just to get a little more ability strength

[glass rampart]

or mesa's waltz

[tawdry trail]

You could swap the V from the aura onto precision intensify and the - from consitution onto the aura slot, that would fit corrosive projection

[glass rampart]

i forgot you can do that holy

[lavish orbit]

So molt augmented if you only count strength

[glass rampart]

i forgot aura slots are fair game

goddamn

[tawdry trail]

Ikr

Game changing

[glass rampart]

welp now i can fit primed continuity or constitution

i wanna do primed cont but constitution gives me an exilus slot

[lavish orbit]

I feel like rolling guard is somehow better than adapt on her, with mesa's waltz tho, you will be dead asap with any status dot, adapt will only make bullet with your 2nd like sponge

[glass rampart]

idk why i have adapt on her i have shatter shield-

[fierce lark]

that and half as much in efficiency

you can run aegis or circumvent or blessing or whatever else if you want, ability strength isn't largely impactful

[fierce lark]

because they stack

[glass rampart]

there :)

[fierce lark]

adaptation is usually worthless on its own, but paired with other forms of DR like shatter shield, you get 95% damage reduction and then the 5% ranged damage you take gets reduced by another 90%

[lavish orbit]

Shatter shield only works for projectiles tho, anything else will still knock you

[fierce lark]

which then gets reduced again by 50% from your shields or 37% from her base armor

projectiles should be all that are hitting you, if you get melee'd as mesa you have bigger issues

most enemies shoot, most enemies that don't shoot have no armor

because they're usually infested or techrot

acolytes are the one exception, but regulators kill those in a couple seconds anyways

[lavish orbit]

Explosion, status, eximus, there's a lot that can do any other thing than only projectiles

[fierce lark]

im not even sure if status procs scale with enemy level, but ive never had that be a problem

but i mean, if you want to run rolling guard instead of adaptation that's fine

though i would drop archon vitality first, the hp is kinda useless without the DR stacking

tbf if i was going to drop one i'd drop them both for rolling guard & catalyzing shields and offload an augur mod

given how often you enter/exit peacemaker anyway, she isn't bad at shield gating

or you ignore all of that and run wyrm

y'know, options

[tawdry trail]

I believe you can hit the dr cap on shatter shield with only augur secrets

Or maybe the cap is higher than I think

Nope, you can hit 95% dr from as little as 19% more strength

Crazy

[vagrant anvil]

Does anyone have a good Ax 52 build?
I own the biotic rounds mod and an riven i can roll

[latent latch]

What's a good torid incarnon build for steel path?

[midnight horizon]

There is a lot

But I have a armor and shield strip

But the most popular

Is Corrosive Blast

[latent latch]

I just want it to do damage and carry

[midnight horizon]

Torrid is so powerful you can carry and damage with these 3 mods

Viral Heat build
Corrosive Cold + Magnet build

And the most popular is Corrosive Blast build

Those 3 damage and csrry

[latent latch]

What do I need for the corrosive blast build?

[midnight horizon]

Wait ninjas has it

[midnight horizon]

https://overframe.gg/build/472389/torid/torid-incarnon-corrosive-blast-and-variants/

[latent latch]

Thanks

[finite lintel]

Anyone know of a good prime frame I should get

[modest brook]

Lavos or Caliban are good for beginners if you're looking for something not vaulted.

[coral crest]

Caliban for beginners? He can 1 through the entire game

I feel like a beginner frame should have obvious falloffs and weak spots that would force you to learn what works and what doesn't

Like Volt, or Ember, or Banshee

But Volt is also kinda yucky as a starter because he gets you addicted to speed

[modest brook]

He can 1 after you get the right mods. Also let people learn how they want to learn. For some folks that's with Caliban. Volt isn't bad either. Nothing wrong with sticking with what you like when it works.

[coral crest]

Banshee, Ember, Hydroid, Nova, Nekros

Someone like that, who actually puts you into an environment that isn't just

"haha brrrrrrrrrr"

[modest brook]

Ember somehow is not haha brrrr? Same with banshe, 4 all day.

[coral crest]

"let people learn how they want to learn" I get that it's a game, but I've seen so many people who just ruin their experience by sticking to something very strong that carries them and leaves them lost

[coral crest]

They both fall off rather badly and without needing SP for that

It's a part of the learning process

Volt could've been perfect if not for the speed addiction

It's a hard thing to lose

Volt to Gauss to Titania to Volt pipeline is real

[trim hill]

I'd be fine with Loki as a starter again, tbh

[glass rampart]

Ember Hydroid Oberon starter

fire water grass

[modest brook]

While they're not my pick for SP, they're certainly fine later on.
Personally, as long as you're having fun and not ruining it for others, go off.

[glass rampart]

like Pokemon

[trim hill]

Yep, pfp checks out

[glass rampart]

<3

[trim hill]

Excalibur, Mag, Loki as starters again? I don't see a problem with it, so long as Loki has a note on there that states he's fragile in terms of tanking damage.

[modest brook]

Haven't seen as many titianias around since the thermal nerf. I find its more folks being told guass is the best newbie frame so they get it. That turns into rev or volt p at slightly higher mr.

[glass rampart]

ive seen so much titania's around

[modest brook]

I've seen like 1 other in the last couple of months and I've been pretty active. Could be location based.

[velvet pulsar]

I've seen sufficient in asia server

[coral crest]

Titania is definitely on the much more popular end

[modest brook]

Weird. I get a lot of volts, dantes and uriels.

[coral crest]

Official stats composed to include base and prime

Titania is in top10

Temple, Oraxia, Uriel and Nokko are too new to compete in any serious way imo

[vernal kelp]

Anyone got a cascadia flare non riven ocucor build?

[narrow granite]

how do peeps build speeva nowadays? mines oldy looki

wait, when was her 4 changed to tap/hold o.o

[nova swift]

replace scorch with status damage/fire rate/faction mod, also ruinous extension in the exilus

[modest brook]

I'm guessing that was last year across all regions. I'm guessing my local folks are prone to just playing whatever.

[coral crest]

It's 2025 across all regions, yeah

[narrow granite]

ah, mi nova been rather dusty crusty

[coral crest]

Yeah it can be both now

[narrow granite]

GROFIT

[modest brook]

Neg power doesn't help anymore

[velvet pulsar]

DE admitted it was a bug and embraced it.

[narrow granite]

so now I gotta mix range power and duration in one config ey x.x

[velvet pulsar]

Duration high priority
Range least priority
Strength just 200%

[nova swift]

Its actually not bad at all, you can run a great weapons platform on her now with hot shot and the 1 augment

Heres an example of a lazy netracell runner

could do really well with nourislop too cause your 1 particles can apply viral with it

[narrow granite]

dunt have hotshot xD

[nova swift]

can run molt efficiency, molt augmented, any of the gun/melee buffing arcanes, arachne

[signal blade]

Im working on a grasp of lohk Xaku build, what makes his guns do more damage? Like how does it scale

[nova swift]

Strength, enemy level, armor strip, 4 vulnerability, viral procs on enemies and roar buff

[signal blade]

Ok

I have 189% strength with molt Augmented and growing power with armor strip and i use Kuva nukor is that good? Or am I missing something

Im also gonna put in strength shards

Also would terrify or pillage be better for a subsume

[velvet pulsar]

Also ability dmg shards

[nova swift]

I think it depends, if you run blind rage then the usual nourish combo (nourish, blind rage, equilibrium shard, brief respite) is pretty good and the nourish retaliation/status effect buff the damage your guns do. If you run roar then you just buff your guns which helps especially if you run something like a panzer for viral

oh yea ability dmg shards I forgot about those

armor shred you already have as xaku so I wouldnt recommend it as much, but using it for armor shred on the move is pretty painful

oh yea, maximizing range also gives you more guns, which is also more damage

[signal blade]

So should I drop terrify?

[nova swift]

depends? if you use xaku during exterminates its kinda handy (same for pillage) but if you use them for defence/survival etc you can use The lost>Gaze instead

[signal blade]

And do the guns target allies created by Accuse?

Ok so maybe I should have the same build 2 times but with different subsumes

[versed harbor]

ye

diff config with slightly diff strength needed

[torn karma]

Which weapon is best for high level solo boss farms

[signal blade]

Wait. Should I do strength shards or range shards for Xaku? More guns is better than more damage but my strength shards would also help my gun build i have

Bc of Xata buff

But also if roar buffs guns and I have it on my defense mission grasp build strength would help more bc of roar right

There isnt a range shard my bad

[severe bough]

Sure go str its also pretty helpful when u subsume his 3 of with pillage so u at least reach 50% strip

[cerulean portal]

is galvanized scope good for ignis wraith? ive seen builds in overframe they run galvanized scope

[old marsh]

Burston Incarnon

[trim hill]

Yeah, Ignis is really easy to maintain the headshots for crit chance, but to get the headshot kills depends on your build. So long as you aren't running a DOT build, you can reliably get the additional crit stacks from kills. DOTs will sometimes steal the kill, preventing stacks.

Unless your DOT can and does headshot (gas or elec)

[void canopy]

which of these r better for ash? im returning so idk if im building this right? im confused if i should be trying to get that much ability strength

[spiral chasm]

left looks like stats wise

might need equil for energy eco tho

[safe falcon]

What is the best tauron strike to get?

[spiral chasm]

that idk

i took zenurik cuz i liked the energy but im going for madurai next

[velvet pulsar]

Zenurik or Vazarin

[safe falcon]

What would be a decent setup for them? Best mods?

[velvet marten]

Hey, when it comes to Stances for weapons, if the stance says Polearm, shouldn't it work with every polearm? 😅

[karmic prism]

where can i go from here?

galvanized scope?

[late hemlock]

The question is more about what school is your mainstay so you would want operator mods on it

Frankly the strike is just a secondary benefit to unlocking operator mods

[safe falcon]

Usually Madurai, so I'll just get Thara

Which operator mods to get then?

[late hemlock]

Honestly not big variety to choose from so you kinda end up with a default setup of as much amp damage as possible

Multishot, damage, crit etc

[safe falcon]

So the one with damage and energy regen seems best

[wicked vortex]

not entirely sure how to best make a khora loot build, how's this so far? i have the whipclaw augment but not enough space for it so i wanted to ask before i put another forma on her

[main silo]

right so im trying to mod a pistol,. its for Ember so I want to just keep it heat based for the vibes.

When i dont load it up with elements the dmg on the sheet drops off substantially what can I do to make up for the dmg loss? Add crit stuff and some + status? will stuff with less elemental dmg just always be lower in damage - does sheet dmg not always project the actual full dmg output or does it ignore certain things?

sorry i know this sounds kind of dumb but im defently not understanding something here ( or many things probably ) thx

[solar reef]

i’d drop a strength mod for some survival (rolling guard)

invisibility won’t save you from AOE status

You can also comfortably drop steel chrage for something like Brief Respite for extra gating comfort

i’d subsume Silence, Nourish, or WA over either his 1st or 3rd
in your case his 1st, as you have no armor strip augment for it

[deep grotto]

Yeah
But you need to account for polarity too

[solar reef]

sheet damage does not lie (often)

Elemental mods also add raw damage

you dont need to invest solely in raw damage

[main silo]

ok so do i just accept i will be doing a lot less dmg if i just want to stick to one element ?

[solar reef]

I mean

you should ALWAYS run either magnetic or viral/corrosive when possible

[main silo]

oh ok

[solar reef]

even if you have just heat

What weapon is it?

[red moat]

Hello. Is this a good build for the nikana prime?

[main silo]

yeah my primarys are always viral/corrosive tbh

[solar reef]

CRABSWEAT is popular for a reason 👍

[void canopy]

Is it fine without subsuming anything?

[main silo]

i woud like to try to make the afuris work with it, but also the atomos would be something id like as well

[solar reef]

i mean sure, its just that his 1 is LITERALLY useless without the augment

[solar reef]

im assuming you’re early game

[main silo]

yeah im only mr 9

9ive finished the all the main quest lines etc

[solar reef]

if you dont plan on keeping the augment theres no reason to keep it

[solar reef]

if you have access to incarnons, I recommend the Furis incarnon

[main silo]

its more just trying to get an understanding about it if u get what i mean

[solar reef]

as it is inherently a heat based weapon (on top of being top 3 secondaries in the game atp)

[main silo]

where are incarnons?

[solar reef]

Steel Path Circuit

they rotate weekly

[main silo]

oh i havent unlocked that yet

im still progessing with a bunch of stuff

like doing my standings and finishing nodes and things

[solar reef]

with what you’re interested in, i’d look into the concept of “Heat inheret”

[main silo]

my problem is without using potao for ex on the atomos i dont have polarity for hornet strike

so then im already like either half my cap gone or having to use one with a lot less ranks

so the atomos is heat inherent right? asin it comes with heat damage already

[solar reef]

it has inherent heat

but i’m advising you look into “heat inheret”

as its a different matter

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GU4ygdC82yw

[main silo]

ty

ive sort of got tyhe hang on basics with my frames now, liek i can put some stuff on to make me survive/have casting and if i need range/duration or w/e but weapons are ;like a whole different kettle of fish

[solar reef]

given you’re talking ember here, the video shown should be a useful starting point

shes one of the very few warframes that can actually utilize it with her abilities

but I recommend getting to steel path first

theres no point in building to the limited without reaching it

any build works in base path

[main silo]

yeah im not trying to do like a min max build or something just understand a little more than i am

[solar reef]

steel path will let you better stress-test your builds and adjust how much survivability and qol you need to alot

because how well you survive in base path, as a new player, likely will not translate

[main silo]

yeah i understand

[solar reef]

ember does have the benefit of overguard generation, but as you scale into steelpath its less about “i have lots of overguard to protect me,” and more “I need to spam overguard gen to gate my health and shield”

[chrome plinth]

which is generally better for wukong prime in steel path, slam or normal atks?

[main silo]

yeah ive only been playing her for a day , i just enjoyed her "mage like " behaviours :()

[solar reef]

slam is better but its prettu boring to lots of us

[solar reef]

her best role is as a weapons platformer

[chrome plinth]

do you have a recommendation build for slam?

[solar reef]

if you specifically want to play caster with her, you really need to invest in heat inherit

[solar reef]

no because i dont slam spam

i also dont play wukong because I like fun things

but yeah hes the most played frame of 2025, should be plenty of guides on youtube

[chrome plinth]

aight thanks for the tips 😄

[main silo]

ive been playing her with Nataruk

[solar reef]

i used her with Burston Incarnon when i platform/caster mix roled

Furis incarnon is probably her best weapon though

[main silo]

yeah ok, im goinna go find a more in depth vid on the Inherit stuff , seems like something i should understand

ty for the pointer ❤️

[nocturne heron]

what are some weird but fun uriel synergies

also is arcane hot shot worth it?

[celest thicket]

WHYYYYYYYYY, if at least the fire rate was neg i could just use cannonade

bro this riven is cursed,its the fourth time i get a roll like this

in the 100th roll im selling this shit for endo

[strong roost]

Any idea for Uriel Builds?

[night laurel]

literally anything + Archon Vitality

[spare lake]

Building an oraxia tanking kuva sobek nuke thing here was hopeing for some tips. Things im gonna be doing soon is putting reave in as her 3 and putting 3 green shards on as well for max corrosion. Is there anything else I should focus?

Also going to be trying to get another sobek with higher percentage for fusion

[brisk estuary]

I'm trying to build a good Trumna Prime, any recommendations for mods?

[mellow nimbus]

Wow titania is awesome in duviri circuit. The Xata blast build works so well with all the element/status decrees.

[fringe breach]

is this build w for VC cap lvl or nah what could i change

[tiny ridge]

which do i choose?

[midnight citrus]

Any Nokko build tips?

[mighty flare]

high range and strength, you want positive duration to not have to recast so often

[midnight citrus]

Concentration? Interesting

[floral sky]

How are the stats for my incarnon mode on my burston showing as lower damage total than its base form i thought incarnon was meant to deal more damage

[spare lake]

Its nice it makes the build a bit more comfortable and less spammy

[fervent rapids]

Actual damage stats in the Arsenal are barely worth looking at. Stuff like crit stats, MS, status chance etc. are what you actually gotta know

[floral sky]

Ok

[spare lake]

And thats not even ccompletely reliable because of condition type mods like galvanized etc

[floral sky]

So if my crit is showing as 260 and the crit multiplier is 6.6 itll still hit hard

[midnight citrus]

No survivability mods because of passive. Makes sense.

[spare lake]

Yup

Should be throwing out shrooms often anyway so its pretty hard to die

[late hemlock]

dont forget to take into consideration that the incarnon is a machine gun compared to a burst rifle in base, transformed it also has higher crit chance and crit mult to compensate for the somewhat lower base damage

[midnight citrus]

Can you have more than one of his 1/2 active at once?

[floral sky]

Yh tbf i can see that just thought the damage total wouldve been higher

[spare lake]

Yup can have 4 stinkbrains out, 2 brightbonnets, and also can have 3/4 sporesprings active at one time

[midnight citrus]

Ooh

[rustic vine]

big red numbers

[floral sky]

I think other than maxing my arcane and galv mod my build should be decent

[spare lake]

I usually only have 2 mushrooms active at once though because sporespring only gets 10 bounces per cast and you dont want it all wasted on hitting shrooms, but you want it hitting a couple of times to increase dmg and speed

[fervent rapids]

Serration, Acuity and Deadhead

[spare lake]

Also take into consideration your brightbonnets timer increases each time a sporespring hits it

[fervent rapids]

Most pure base damage boosters don't stack with eachother, so having 3 gives way less than you would think

generally you only want one base damage booster

[stray depot]

anyone have a good rauta build to use with kullervo

[floral sky]

Tbf idk if i should swap serration for a faction mod as my riven also has crit and damage on it

[fervent rapids]

remove Acuity so you can mod MS

Acuity is quite niche

multishot is the single best stat for pretty much all guns in the game

[floral sky]

So try the galvanized multi shot mod

[fervent rapids]

yes

[spare lake]

Galvanized hell is what your looking for

[blazing pawn]

Giys a fully built wukong and a fully built Valkyr who stronger

Cause I’m comparing my Valkyr and wukong rn they don’t don’t have archon shards and idk who does more dmg

[floral sky]

If ms is being used wouldnt it make sense to swap deadhead for merciless aswell

[fervent rapids]

Deadhead is generally preferred over Merciless for most guns since you can more consistently keep it at max stacks

only Direct Damage gets Weakpoint boosts so doesn't work as well for like grenade launchers and such

[spare lake]

Whats on the riven exactly?

[pallid quiver]

We love furis

Drop the build

[rustic vine]

uh not furis

[floral sky]

Ill show in a min put a omniforma on the gun so need to relevel it as i wanna try out a couple things so needed more capacity

[rustic vine]

dual toxocyst

[pallid quiver]

Is that not

[rustic vine]

ill drop after im done with thsi survival

[pallid quiver]

Ohhhhh

[rustic vine]

im only getting these numbers on levvel 200's

the lower levels are too weak for my gun

[pallid quiver]

I just need a bunch of Yao shrubs so that I can install my dual tox incarnon

Wait which incarnon should I put on first

Dual tox or torid

[rustic vine]

hmmm

good question

idk honestly but heres the dual toxo build

[rustic vine]

no riven dual toxo

doing very cool numbers

but it takes a while of charging it up with the galvanized mods

dont even have the rank 5 deadhead yet

[floral sky]

Tbf i need to make a dual toxo build

Is it mostly status chance you want

[rustic vine]

nope

well i havve a mod for it just to be sure

but i like the primed mods i have one because it boosts my crits by a shit ton

status chance IS good and you should have it

but dont mostly focus on status chance

beacuse the crits are more important

if you wanna get big red numbers you need high crit damage and high crit chance

[floral sky]

I need a build for dual toxo and one for torid as got both from sp circuit

[rustic vine]

this is mine

im trying to convert the convulsion to a primed version

and yes i spent 7 forma on it

[blazing pawn]

Yo guys check this u think it’s reasonable to replace galvanized steel with sacrificial steel for me staff

And yes I will get primed reach

[rustic vine]

results of that on lvl 200 enemies

[floral sky]

I usually forma every slot if i like the item im using so

[rustic vine]

1 million dmg on 1 single dual toxo bullet is crazy

was a lucky bullet tho

[floral sky]

Guessing multishot is very important for it

[rustic vine]

multishot and firerate are both good

you dont want to have just the crits and slow firerate or no multishot

you need it all and the build has basically all

[floral sky]

What arcane would you put on it when you get the adapter

[rustic vine]

Secondary deadhead 100%

[spare lake]

You could try doing A blight build that could be fun

[floral sky]

Would blight not need someone with toxic like saryn to work well

[rustic vine]

My build:
Galvanized Diffusion + Lethal Torrent for multishot (Lethal torrent for firerate too)
Galvanized Shot for Status chance and extra damage for status types
Galvanized Cross hairs + Primed Pistol Gambit for crit chance
Primed Target Cracker + Merciless Gunfight for crit damage
Convulsion for status dmg (Will chance into primed version once i get enough plat)
(I don't have secondary arcane adapter yet but if you do have it use secondary deadhead for extra damage)

INCARNON UPGRADES:
E2: Fevered Frenzy for more base damage and multishot when using abilities
E3: Marksman's Hand for less recoil
E3: Commodore's Fortune for crit chance

oh and let me put the incarnon boosts on it too

[floral sky]

Tbf oraxia with a blight ar would be fun

[spare lake]

Build toxin into the gun you dont necessarily need viral on weapon you can do viral priming with companions. Just an idea would take a bit of work but with that riven I could see you getting some silly numbers

[spare lake]

Im doing an oraxia sobek build rn and its pretty dumb lol

[severe bough]

Cyte sobek>

[floral sky]

I do wanna try saryn with acid shells at some point

[spare lake]

Its a good time I just really like how unkillable i am with oraxia persistence lol

[severe bough]

Saryn/oraxia are the same builds with mabye 1 mod diff its very easy and fun to play would recommend it at least once

[spare lake]

Just recommend getting the archon shards out of the way when you can. Gotta increase those corrosion stacks

[floral sky]

Is it possible with enough strength to get oberons grass to pretty much or almost 1 hit high levels

[late hemlock]

you need an external buff since smite is a scaling ability, so roar is kinda needed iirc

[spare lake]

What about with madurai??

[floral sky]

I dont think his kits worth changing tbh

[late hemlock]

if you want smite to nuke properly its unavoidable

[floral sky]

Cause i wouldnt wanna remove armor strip or healing tbh

[mighty flare]

its terrible, just use smite

[spare lake]

Try using voidstrike with madurai thatll give you some more power at least. Its something.

[floral sky]

Is smite the ability he armor strips and creates orbs with

[mighty flare]

thats his 4

[floral sky]

Oh

Tbf ik what his abilities do dk the names

[mighty flare]

prerework, his only damaging ability was smite
postrework, his only damaging ability is smite

[floral sky]

Tbf my strength on him is pretty low atm needs to be higher

[mighty flare]

for smite nuking, you need ~248% strength, roar subsume, armor strip from 4, radiation priming, and at least 1 viral

[floral sky]

Yh i dont even have 200 yet as was having energy issues

[mighty flare]

this was the build i ran

[floral sky]

I still need transient fortitude tbf

Is it worth trading plat for

[floral sky]

Im currently using blind rage and umbral intensify as it gives me the highest strength i can get atm

[late hemlock]

grinding for corrupted mods is pretty annoying as its 1/24 with no pity, using plat on it isnt the worst

[solar reef]

pretty sure you can also do it with like 215% strength and 2 Orange

cant remember the exact number or if one or both shards have to be tau

[solar reef]

invest in Molt Augmented, it will see use in almost 90% of your builds going forward and gives you up to 60% Strength at max stacks

[gleaming lotus]

guys tell me would energy nexus work on qorvex with fused crucible mod?

because im trying to cook something with qorvex that uses almost no energy on his 4th while dealing big pp dmg and i think maybe the energy nexus will work but i have no clue if it affects qorvex 4th ability with fused crucible mod or not (my current build)

[versed harbor]

nah his 4 counts as a channel so itll disable the energy regen

[fair swan]

Does anyone have a harrow prime build???

[gleaming lotus]

yea i do

i finish survival then i send it

[fair swan]

Ty

[fair swan]

Is there anything i can replace adaptation and agur messages

[clear turret]

augur message you could prob replace but adaptation is really really good at making sure you don't die

augur message is 24% duration but you can replace with red shards, however you might want the shield buff since harrow has lot of shields

[gleaming lotus]

dont replace adaptation

[fair swan]

I dont got it tho

[clear turret]

i might have extra

[gleaming lotus]

augur message you could replace with like narrow minded?

range is not that necessary i guess

[fair swan]

Oooo

[gleaming lotus]

i got plenty

[fair swan]

OOOO

[clear turret]

do you even need augur message? you can just use red archons for the duration

[mighty flare]

no it would be ~228

[fair swan]

I got the arcanes aswell but i don't need to worry about them atm

[gleaming lotus]

theres one warframe named uriel that gobbled up all my 5 red archon shards

so yea

[clear turret]

lol

i have uriel and dont know what to do with him

[solar reef]

like i said, cant remember the specifics

is that with two regular or two tau

[fair swan]

Whats ur id i can trade for the adaptation

[clear turret]

on the one hand he is really good on the other hand all i do with him is stand in one place with shade invis active and spam his 3

[gleaming lotus]

paint the world red

[mighty flare]

just use augur reach instead of overextended and it'll work

[clear turret]

im not on right now, but I will in about ~30 min

[fair swan]

Oki

[mighty flare]

~228 is with 2 tau or 2 viral and 1 tau

[clear turret]

i pmed u with in game username thats what my other friend used to find me

(IDK if i still have extra adaptation tho might have givin it all to my friends so sorry if i dont have any left)

[solar reef]

that would let you run it without augmented I suppose

[fair swan]

Alr

[fair swan]

Its fine if not

[lavish orbit]

73% duration ? Is that enough ? Thought Uriel was all in range+duration, for a minimum of 5s for his 4th (last tick is at max damage)

[clear turret]

dont forget red shards

5 red taus = 200% i think, so 273% total

[lavish orbit]

1 red tau is 15% so 75% for 5 and it is shown in the build.

[clear turret]

oh oops i though it was 40%

oh it is shown? then idk especially since 1 uses duration

maybe one of the arcanes extend duration idk

[lavish orbit]

Not in his build

[blazing finch]

I got khora for both eta and eda and I need help making a build

[daring summit]

does the bonus status chance from motus setup pass through mecha overdrive for my chesa??

[late hemlock]

yes

the stat inherit from mecha overdrive and hunter synergy update in real time during mission

though if you want a stat stick for your kubrow use paris prime over this

[fringe breach]

is this nova prime build good for cap lvl or nah

[daring summit]

why? what makes the paris prime better than the kuva kohm with base 90% status chance

[late hemlock]

combination of super high crit and status

paris has a base of 80% status with the incarnon

[fathom sky]

Incarnon Paris Prime gets 80% base SC

[late hemlock]

and a unique mod for more status in exilus

[daring summit]

counter argument: i have a kohm all ready to go, my paris prime is lacking not only the incarnon, but the potato, and apparently a special exilus mod.

[late hemlock]

your crit is awful so you cant use hunter synergy, loads weaker than paris for a stat stick

[daring summit]

wasnt intending on using hunter synergy. my chesa is gonna be more of a primer / loot enhancer for my nekros

[hexed coyote]

Other than upgrade my arcane how do I improve my cedo build?

[abstract marlin]

Anyone have a balefire charger build? Preferably one that's viable for the secret SP fights.

[distant jackal]

Guys how does one tackle a persistence build for wisp?

I was thinking triple umbra bellicose blind rage prime flow archon strech and rolling guard

4 ranges for strenght 1 for equilibrium

[misty vigil]

primed ravage?

[hexed coyote]

Is it a available in current baroo?

[misty vigil]

nope, was around last week though

[hexed coyote]

Damn

[misty vigil]

just buy an unranked one for 50p

[hexed coyote]

Any other improvements?

[distant jackal]

No id need 1 shard for armor...

[hexed coyote]

Mods to swap or something

[balmy oracle]

left or right?

[misty vigil]

get the last rank in your galvanized mods i guess, otherwise just improve whatever weapon platform you're using

[fathom sky]

Left, -fr is bad

[misty vigil]

max ammo doesn't effect the incarnon, and crit chance is better than damage

also yeah fr is bad like wew, -50%? zamn

[hexed coyote]

Thankfully my Lavos is perfect enough

[balmy oracle]

should i keep the stats or keep rolling

[misty vigil]

up to you, realistically the riven is good enough but if you really wanna minmax then i guess roll for +cc, cd and multishot?

[distant jackal]

U want god roll or good enough roll?

[misty vigil]

kinda nuts you got that good of a roll in 27 rolls lol

pretty lucky

[balmy oracle]

looking for a god roll but idk much abt thewse riven stats

[distant jackal]

For a godroll u want cc cd ms and a harmless neg like neg zoom but thats is hard to get

Crit chance crit damage multishot

Unless ure using acuity on burston

Neg ms would be good if you are

[misty vigil]

yeah pretty much cc cd and ms, unless the riven is for a weapon that has pretty low crit or doesn't want to crit (laetum)

[distant jackal]

Yeah

Some ppl do crit laetum builds tho

[balmy oracle]

yeah i understand

[maiden oracle]

Any tips for Trumning it better than this basic build

[misty vigil]

other combos i can think of is dual elements + any of the mentioned stats, especially if those elements combine into like viral or corrosive

[distant jackal]

Viral heat build imo put malignant force over wildfire

And put galvanized aptitude over serration

Oof im using a riven... hol uh lemme think

I guess hammer shot last slot

[maiden oracle]

Dang

I sold mine a while ago lmao

[hexed coyote]

I wonder if I should reroll my riven and what should I aim for?

[misty vigil]

i'm starting to think viral heat is the swiss army knife of building from what i see lol
it just fits into everything or solves the issue of lack of direction

[distant jackal]

Eh not worth it anyway disposition is only 1

[hexed coyote]

Crit chance and multi shot + a status maybe

[maiden oracle]

Yea p much

[distant jackal]

Cc cd ms

[maiden oracle]

Viral means a ton more damage to HP and fire is temp armor reduction

[hexed coyote]

For muh cedo?

[distant jackal]

And neg grineer pretty bad

[distant jackal]

Yeah

[maiden oracle]

Heard Xata and Blast get funny togethe so that's what I've been trying fo

[hexed coyote]

Yeah but corrosive lowkey better than viral at high levels

[distant jackal]

Ohh

[misty vigil]

how so?

[distant jackal]

I guess youre better off modding that in

[maiden oracle]

Only against Grineer no?

Corpus are just squishy meat with shields

[hexed coyote]

Dont need it

[hexed coyote]

Yeah, but them sentients have armor too

[late hemlock]

where are you fighting relevant sentient enemies? conjunction?

[distant jackal]

What

Oh i replied to wrong msg

[balmy oracle]

good or bad?

[distant jackal]

Good enough

[balmy oracle]

or do u think the other was better?

[nocturne spindle]

How's the thalys chat

[maiden oracle]

I forget Sentients even exist, you barely see them

[distant jackal]

Personaly i prefer rivens that are cc cd and a neg

But the other one would've help u mod for viral better

[hexed coyote]

Tau soon, sentients will be relevant

[maiden oracle]

Ah true

[distant jackal]

Really a personal choice id say

[distant jackal]

Sentient liches🤞

[balmy oracle]

ill pick the one before then since it was a pretty good roll

[distant jackal]

Mhmm

[hexed coyote]

Sentient liches will probably be able to resist and adapt all elements except progenerator bonus element

[distant jackal]

Yeah probably

[hexed coyote]

Nemesis system patent is running out soon

Maybe DE will save sentient liches till then

To give us a real big experience

[tight sigil]

It’s been a while since I played and even longer since I had a nuking build what are the strongest nuking builds right now

[fervent crescent]

saryn acid shells sobek in terms of pure aoe

then there's like a hundred builds to reach damage cap with

[stable plover]

how do i make my vinquibus(melee) better at melee doughty? i feel im overdoing it is 1 or more areas. rn its really weak for some reason. [Riven 55.8 Status chance, 105.5 dmg, 0.88 corpus dmg]

[fathom sky]

Riven isn't worth slotting. Get Blood Rush and Condition Overload over it and Melee Prowess

[near vortex]

Tennokai

Could use attack speed too

[stable plover]

ya i was thinking the riven wasent helpfull enugh for its cost.

[near vortex]

If you hit any of the good melee stats harmless negative on the riven you can keep it

Though with how low the dispo is getting a good roll will be hard

[stable plover]

ya the riven was what made me think i could pull off a doughty build. anything but having to use influence again.

[abstract axle]

unfortunately, until DE decides to start balancing this game again, melee means influence

[green forge]

Hi volt people, I see a lot of narrow minded speed builds and tbh that looks fun, but is it never worth doing investment into a discharge build? like is this another sol gate situation where its mid at best?

[nocturne spindle]

With the augment it becomes more of a survivability tool

[green forge]

can the restored shields go into overshields?

[nocturne spindle]

I think so yea

To my knowledge doughty can still benefit from CO if you have an outside source of priming such as a companion

[karmic badger]

Yes, and as long as enemies keep getting shocked, you'll never stop shieldgating

[tawdry trail]

tbh I'm not sure if doughty is worth running on the Vinquibus, even on weapons with higher puncture weighting and status chance like the vaykor sydon, elemental modding can do just as much for damage as melee doughty without taking up the arcane slot

[trim sluice]

Hey i recently got gauss prime and looking for a good weapon for MR 5 can anybody help or do I go somewhere else and ask

[tawdry trail]

The Kohm is pretty good at MR5

The Hek is also a bit of a powerhouse early game but the small magazine can be awkward

The Atomos is also quite good

[trim sluice]

okay thank you so much will look into them

[spark thorn]

Build chat I implore you alert me if someone finds a destreza riven

[karmic badger]

Fun fact: 3 heat sunders followed by a cold sunder should instakill any non boss enemy

[spark thorn]

I want to spoil the toothpick

[karmic badger]

Also when you get to MR8, pick up the Cedo from the necralisk

[glass rampart]

Is that with full battery

[karmic badger]

Yes, you can cut it down to 2 heats with archon vitality

[midnight horizon]

do i add another forma to this build

[coral plank]

In arcane universal fallout, it says each. So does the chance stack for each proc?

Oh wait, checked the wiki, yep 60% chance

[coral plank]

actually does Khra Canticle and Universal Fallout add up with eachother?

[tawdry trail]

probably, but stacking 12% on top of 60% isn't gonna make for a super noticeable increase

[coral plank]

Hmm

[tawdry trail]

it depends on the warframe math tbh, it could be giving a 72% universal orb drop chance or something lower

67.2%

[coral plank]

72 does seem like a lot of chance

but ehh

[tawdry trail]

if you're reliably getting enemies to 10 stacks of radiation for universal fallout you should have more than enough orbs already

or not, I don't actually know what you're using

[bitter drum]

anyone have some fun weapons i can aim to grind for? been bored waiting for the old peace to be replayable

[patent fern]

when it comes to mesa whats better between arcane hot shot vs arcane avenger? seeing builds with both but im not sure which works best overall

[mighty flare]

hot shot, some ppl just dont have access to it yet

[tawdry trail]

hot shot relies on you hitting enemies (with heat) and avenger relies on enemies hitting you, so people tend to prefer hot shot

they do give different types of bonuses though interestingly

[patent fern]

i see

main issue with avenger is using combat discipline to make it work

[midnight horizon]

Hot shot gives 75% more crit, avenger only gives 45%

[patent fern]

but mesa is also a gatling gun so im dead in one big burst sometimes lol

[midnight horizon]

You should be using her bullet reflect ability

The 95% dr affects combat discipline

[patent fern]

ITS 500 PLAT 😭

[midnight horizon]

So instead of taking 10 hp loss per kill, you only take 1

[patent fern]

i did NOT realise it was that damn much

[patent fern]

i see, i was just using adaptation

[midnight horizon]

Avenger + velocity is what I ran before switching to hot shot + velocity

Still works great. Plus you can get more CC from orange shards anyway

[midnight horizon]

Adaptation doesn't affect discipline iirc

[patent fern]

yeah ive been using avenger and velocity for mine but combat discipine is whats making it a bit rough

i mean worst case i need to run around and pick up orbs

got this so far

[tawdry trail]

hotshot gives the same effect as modded crit chance, but avenger gives a flat 45% increase

[midnight horizon]

Nah you just need to keep her bullet reflect ability on

[patent fern]

archon mods ONLY because i had the extra space for them over the primed ones lol

[midnight horizon]

I know, and hot shot on her regulators alone is a flat 75% increase. I calculated

[tawdry trail]

ah I see

[patent fern]

using vitality also because i have primed heat on the pistols and im using cascadia flare and i think that combo works

in theory heat procs twice and cascadia procs twice?

or maybe im stupid

[midnight horizon]

You can keep archon vitality later too cuz you wanna proc heat quickly to trigger hot shot max stacks quicker

[patent fern]

i have a 50% coupon

[tawdry trail]

it might not proc cascadia twice but mesa normally has enough fire rate for it to not matter

[mighty flare]

archon vitality doesnt trigger hot shot quicker

[patent fern]

so MAYBE i get hot shot and skip the grind

[midnight horizon]

Oh really?

[velvet pulsar]

Archon Vitality doesn't do that

[midnight horizon]

Wow that's just sad

Forget what I just said

[patent fern]

does it work on cascadia flare?

or does it not work on arcanes at all

[mighty flare]

pure heat worse variant over raw corrosive, run corrosive/viral + heat on mesa

[midnight horizon]

Why does it work on flare but not hot shot that's so dumbbbb

[patent fern]

i have corrosive as well

[tawdry trail]

hot shot specifically doesn't register multiple procs in the same instance

[velvet pulsar]

Hot Shot was coded to directly trigger from ability hit.

Flare triggers from absolutely any heat proc

[tawdry trail]

I tried it with gauss because I thought thermal sunder would be able to stack it, but not very well

[patent fern]

this is my current build on her and her guns

[midnight horizon]

Eh whatever I run health tank mesa anyway

Neg range gloomesa ftw

[velvet pulsar]

Thermal Transfer can

If u have an ability summon (which gauss normally cannot have)

[tawdry trail]

only issue with using thermal transfer for heat damage is it basically locks you out of using cold thermal sunder

[velvet pulsar]

And blast gives more dmg so I use blast

[midnight horizon]

God I wish I could run persistence on mesa but I already got two of the best arcanes on her already

[velvet pulsar]

There's one thing I haven't tested

Coda Pathocyst maggots could be bugged after Nidus maggots were changed to summons.

I'll try using heat theorem infection on pathocyst summons to see if they proc Hot Shot.

[patent fern]

so would i be better off with arcane avenger? or is shot shot still worth regardless of the archon vitality

[velvet pulsar]

Then I'll try heat thermal Transfer on them

[midnight horizon]

Still worth

[velvet pulsar]

Still worth

[midnight horizon]

It's not like it loses all value just cuz vitality doesn't work on it

[patent fern]

time to muster up that painfull 570 plat

[midnight horizon]

You do want as much raw damage on her as possible anyway

[patent fern]

thats insane price for it but isnt that universal orb drop chance arcane also super expensive

[velvet pulsar]

Besides, manifold bond heat primers can proc Hot shot

[velvet pulsar]

They're both slow to farm and useful

[mighty flare]

its totally fine to just sit on avenger until you eventually unlock hotshot

[midnight horizon]

If you want you can also just run 4 tau orange shards. Same effect as an r5 hotshot but permanent

[velvet pulsar]

They both can be triggered by manifold bond primers

[patent fern]

that reminds me i have to do my archon hunt

[velvet pulsar]

I'm probably gonna try a new config of cold Corrosive diriga and hound primers

[patent fern]

archon shard grind is so boring idk why its limited but it does make sense

i feel like arcanes would be nicer if they were harder to get too

[tawdry trail]

they used to be locked behind some of the hardest content in the game and you could only MAYBE obtain one once a week, but now they're also locked behind crazy rng

[patent fern]

oh thats insane

[velvet pulsar]

Just appreciate that u aren't playing Kahl missions

[patent fern]

one a week is nuts

[tawdry trail]

they've basically started handing out arcanes during the events now

it's great

[midnight horizon]

I never once bothered doing them and I'm glad I never did

After they moved it into somewhere else

Could've been a traumatic experience

[velvet pulsar]

I decided to buy Skaut with plat than farm it via Kahl missions.

My choice was either Kahl bros or Ember Heirloom, and I chose brothers.

[midnight horizon]

Same lmao

A good investment in plat

[velvet pulsar]

Bros b4 ho...

[velvet pulsar]

Fellas, is Catalyze nuke every 10s good enough or should I invest more efficiency on Lavos, but then that'll nerf the duration a lot?

[undone dust]

does eff or dur affect the cooldown lower of probe

[velvet pulsar]

Efficiency boosts the cooldown of probe

Duration just gonna affect the augment and the status Duration

[undone dust]

i feel like dur would only really matter alot for gas setups right?

or is that the catalyze nuke you're going for

[velvet pulsar]

Nah gas Catalyze has a huge catch of mecha set rather than lavos himself

That'll just limit my nukes to every 15s

[undone dust]

id probably just go for eff for more nukes then tbh

[coral plank]

Using Hounds to proc em

[patent fern]

putting brightbonnet on mesa has solved all energy and heallth problems it seems

very funny interaction though

[tawdry trail]

one of my friends loves that subsume on her

[patent fern]

its super fun

i have nourish on another config but its not as fun

[velvet pulsar]

This is its rival:
https://youtu.be/SB8jZVLuBCs?si=kVHYyJWbMFqs1XvW

I have alone convinced DE to make this possible:

[patent fern]

is this satire sorry im dumb

so if i use nourish 700 times then shoot an energy orb i get all my energy back so i can spam nourish another 700 times

[velvet pulsar]

Nah that's a misdirection

Nourish spam was to reduce all my energy to 0.
I used the misdirection to prevent people from easily understanding what actually happened.

The real explanation is in the description.

[patent fern]

oh my god i am the dumbest person ever

i didnt know you lost archon shards on subsumes too

damn you nokko all my red and green shards were on that dumbass frame 😭

[patent fern]

just checked, that makes 100x more sense lol thats a nifty interaction for sure

brightbonnet is nice because it lets you replace mesa waltz with anything else and gives you a lot more signtlines on a lot more tile sets, but ive kept the waltz and use brightbonnet for strength buff and energy regen

[velvet pulsar]

I like the weird survivability brightbonnet gives to mesa

[patent fern]

yeah i would've never thought of it but someone on a arbitration was using it and it was the funniest thing ive ever seen

knew i had to built her and try it out

i wonder if i can lowball arcane hot shot in trade chat

[velvet pulsar]

So what are u using now instead of mesa's waltz?

[hexed coyote]

Which one?

[karmic badger]

Bounce on that thang crazy style dayo

[safe falcon]

How does the arcane Uskos work? Does it add extra heat damage on top of whatever your weapon has or do you need heat damage on the secondary for it to work?

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure its like shock trooper, extra non combining damage on top

[obtuse egret]

i dont play gauss and saw a build from a year ago can any1 lmk if this build is good or has anything it needs to change? I prefer no helminth I like all gauss moves

[patent fern]

i kept it on her but i also tried power drift so i could get more str and not get blown off the mushroom by those eximus units that knock you down

[safe falcon]

I'm not seeing the impact on it on my Epitaph. It does no heat damage at all.

[hexed coyote]

Which one, chat?

[patent fern]

cedo always multishot

but damage to corpus is good too

i only ever take the ones with better prices lol

[hexed coyote]

Mhmmm....

[obtuse egret]

i dont play gauss and saw a build from a year ago can any1 lmk if this build is good or has anything it needs to change? I prefer no helminth I like all gauss moves

[hexed coyote]

I dont care about riven prices much, I get rivens for what I like

[patent fern]

yeah thats fair

[hexed coyote]

Which one should I take?

This one has multi shot @patent fern

[patent fern]

thats a beauty

[hexed coyote]

Right or left?

[obtuse egret]

right

[patent fern]

slap on crux for ammo efficiency and the mag size wont really weign you down so id say right but depends on how you use the gun

puncture doesnt add all that much either

[hexed coyote]

@patent fern @obtuse egret this my last roll

[obtuse egret]

left

[hexed coyote]

I'm playing Lavos so ammo doesn't matter much

[patent fern]

left for sure

[patent fern]

yeah then that'll be a good riven until you can reroll and maybe get a blessed god roll

[safe falcon]

Can someone help me understand why my mod config for Thara is like this? I don't know where the game is getting 24% or the lower numbers from.

[patent fern]

why do people list arcane hot shot but not respond to trade offers just go offline atp lol

[hexed coyote]

Yeah I'll keep it

For now

[dusky hatch]

can someone tell me if vigilante mod set bonus still work ?

[karmic badger]

When mounted on a sentinel weapon? Yes

[dusky hatch]

yes and thank you

also does nourish viral proc when i use a primary to hit enemies ?

[coral crest]

It adds a bunch of viral damage to all your weapons

And to abilities that are counted as weapon damage too

[dusky hatch]

alright thank you

[coral crest]

Viral is forced from enemies shooting you, viral damage on weapons will work with your status chance

Sorry, forgot to elaborate

[dusky hatch]

so that mean viral will proc when i shoot them and when they shoot me too right ?

[modern yoke]

Yo guys, I could use a Gauss Redline build

[coral crest]

Yeah

Viral on Nourish produces waves upon getting hit. The wave inflicts 1 viral stack on enemies around you

And it adds viral to all your weapon damage, which will work with the inherent status chance of the weapon

Grendel's nourish gives 10 stacks to enemies and higher damage buff

Subsume gives 1 stack to enemies and an ok dmg buff

[modern yoke]

Should I just stack Strength, Efficiency, and Duration?

[midnight horizon]

Gauss 4?....

Redline right?

[modern yoke]

^

[midnight horizon]

Vruh I'm so stupid hahahah

[tawdry trail]

The buffs from Gauss' mostly scale with duration, and you don't need much efficiency because you get energy from enemies hitting you with his 2 active

[gleaming oasis]

I'm looking to get a hyldryn/balefire build. I got the prime, just gotta know how to work with the gimmick

[karmic badger]

You'll want aegis gale to make her 4 work

Then stack shields and str

[patent fern]

now that i replaced arcane avenger with hot shot can i replace combat discipline with anything that wont kill me?

[gleaming oasis]

so how's this for a start

[gleaming oasis]

Pistol or holster amp

preferably holster

[mighty flare]

what? neither of them

[patent fern]

mesa draws her secondary insanely quick though whats the point of draw speed

i guess corrosive would be best now?

or growing power?

[mighty flare]

yes, corrosive is best

[patent fern]

sweet thanks

whats a good companion for mesa?

shade is NOT doing its job because mesa is the furthest thing from stealthy there is

[silk escarp]

So, I've been rebuilding best girl since coming back and wanted big numbers. I hit this tonight. My friend was saying this is the "visual damage cap." Is that true? I know it's pointless, but it's hilarious. I'm still going to jam more Crit Damage shards into her when I get them (because she's worth it), and I'm still grinding for the Tennokai mod I want, but is this pretty much it?

[karmic badger]

Yee

[karmic badger]

Yeah that negative number is the integer limit

[silk escarp]

Damn, thanks for verifying. Still, I love coming back and Valkyr still shreds. 🫡

[modern yoke]

Ah, so stack Duration and then just whatever?

So Redline and his 2 are just strong no matter what? No AS needed?

[severe bough]

U want more range u dont really need that much str u spam pillage anyways so 2 times for full strip is def enough and i would also use velocity instead of aegis unless u got external fire rate buffs

Also non ult balefire build is pretty good aswell

[fierce lark]

265/280 range is what you want, fulmination on the chargers multiplies off of modded range

[latent latch]

what is a good utility Grimoire build for steel path?

[midnight horizon]

@velvet pulsar broski didn't you mention one time that melee careen is related to faction damage or smth?

Can you explain in full detail what that means

You also mentioned in the same sentence that the best careen user is okina

[spark thorn]

Anyone ive got 15 p to anyone thatll max my heavy caliber from 8

Its all i got

[vital wagon]

hi i wanted to know if this is good to use in trumna prime... or is there any mods i should switch out?

[olive relic]

corro projection si pretty good replacement

[tawdry trail]

definitely a bit of ability strength but duration is a priority for redline

[velvet pulsar]

Double dips on DoTs yes

[midnight horizon]

So.. x2.5² for blast DoT or smth?

[velvet pulsar]

Blast can triple dip with xata

[midnight horizon]

True

Damn holup I should just run xata on gauss okina then

[velvet pulsar]

And okina is best for it because of more than 1 reasons

[midnight horizon]

Yeah? Whats that

[coral crest]

Im no gausshead. What do people replace on him if not sunder? Mach rush?

[velvet pulsar]

1. Okina is also used as speedstick, so careen just being used for roll fits.
2. Incarnon spectral daggers force proc 10 cold stacks, so guaranteed proc of careen.
3. Blast triple dip makes it easier for okina to not only self sustain the projectiles, but to even increase it because blast is AoE, so 1 projectile can replenish more than 1 again.
4. The projectile sustenance will continue even when u have any other weapon holstered, probably even an archgun.

[dusky hatch]

anyone know why this stack only stay at 1 even after i kills mutiple enemies ?

[velvet pulsar]

His 2

Sunder with Thermal Transfer is just very good now

[coral crest]

Oh right plating exists

[tawdry trail]

his second ability is used for survivability but there's a way you can get infinite shield recharge so it's not always needed

[coral crest]

I keep forgetting that kinetic plating is an ability that exists

[tawdry trail]

lol

[coral crest]

I don't play Gauss, don't punch me

[tawdry trail]

neither

[velvet pulsar]

Xata Blast synergy made at least 1 config for gauss mandatory.

So xata on 2.

[midnight horizon]

I actually don't replace anything

But I guess I'll have to sub over kinetic

Aegis is always another option for survival anyway

[midnight horizon]

Pretty cool ngl

But remind me, do blast DoT scale off how much blast damage you have on the weapon?

Like how elec DoT gets a 1.9x free multiplier for just having the 90% elec mod

[tawdry trail]

unfortunately combined elements don't scale unless there's a direct source of it, and having cold and heat separately doesn't count as a direct source

[coral crest]

Isn't Lavos the only one that can provide it?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, which means thermal transfer itself will boost the DoT

[tawdry trail]

for blast, gauss can too

[velvet pulsar]

Not the only one

[coral crest]

Oh yeah, Gauss

[velvet pulsar]

For gas, vesper augment does that too

[tawdry trail]

there's only a handful of ways to get base gas damage in the game I believe

[coral crest]

I forgot vesper has an augment

[tawdry trail]

vesper augment, lavos, cyte, that might be it

[coral crest]

Why did it get one so early anyway

[tawdry trail]

it was kinda sauceless without it

[velvet pulsar]

1999 update
Nightwave theme 1999

[coral crest]

Blehhhhhhhhhh

[velvet pulsar]

Whenever nightwave refreshes, it usually brings augments for those weapons related to the recent update

This time, it was for Hema and Basmu, both being lifesteal healing weapons.

This means DE wanted to expand health tank more, specially with arcane persistence

Next time, it could be for any 2 weapons among Bubonico, Ghoulsaw, or (Tenet Quanta)

[coral crest]

Persistence wasn't their "health tank solution" ©Rebb

Something horrific is coming

[velvet pulsar]

If nightwave arrives near that time

[velvet pulsar]

Excuses

They made this excuse to nerf it and then promised they'll discuss it in 2026.

It's Feb and they haven't spoken a single word about health tank.

[coral crest]

Don't worry

[mighty flare]

lowkey persistence is gating with extra steps

[coral crest]

Health Ta(u)nk update

Trust

[coral crest]

Yeah. It's just more organic to use for some frames

[velvet pulsar]

They've been trying to bridge the gap between gating enjoyers and health tank since last year

Probably started with valkyr rework, changing her passive.

Even though it was hypocrisy as their excuse to remove invulnerability from her 4 was "then her high armor won't have any use"

Meanwhile they gave Qorvex an augment for his 4 which makes him invulnerable and simply removes the use of his high armor.

Hypocrisy.

Their decision making fluctuations infuriate me.

Same happened with Oberon rework.

[fierce lark]

he gets to activate bulwark with 1 armor mod

that’s cool i guess xd

[mighty flare]

"health tank" with high crowd control and invulnerability augment, what did de mean by this

[mighty flare]

"health tank" with high crowd control and invulnerability passive, what did de mean by this

[silk escarp]

if it kills what you're shooting at, it's fine. I don't ADS much in WF (cuz old) and I've found the alt fire is already XboxHueg enough to not require a bigger hitbox. I run this and it murders in SP just fine (I run Amalgam Serration only because the frames I use it with, I prefer to sprint). And I could probably swap out Galv Aptitude, but I couldn't think of much else to swap it for:

[velvet pulsar]

They give him this passive to satisfy gating enjoyers and he has tons of orb spawn options to maintain it.

On the other hand they tried to create a bridge to health tank again.

[coral crest]

What if Follie is a health tank

[velvet pulsar]

Then Persistence arrived...

"Oh no our hard mode bosses aren't hard anymore!"

[mighty flare]

better than another resupply copy

but somehow worse in some new way

[coral crest]

We are adding INK damage and she has an INK toxin lash

[velvet pulsar]

Puts a nullification penalty on an arcane which never happened before, instead of giving those bosses a way to counter persistence

[coral crest]

Resupply copy and it's just impact damage

[velvet pulsar]

DE has been like this for a really long time:
"Fix" the effect, not the cause.

[coral crest]

[mighty flare]

they made saryn, then cyte, then oraxia, then uriel, and somehow all were worse than the previous🥀

[coral crest]

I think we can blame Saryn for that

Everyone since is paying up

The Saryn nerf debt

[velvet pulsar]

"mid-air heavy attacks are 'unintended'"
"Let's nerf Exodia Contagion because it's affected the most"

[fierce lark]

no

[coral crest]

Of course you'd say that

[velvet pulsar]

Saryn has more privileges

Everyone else is a cheap copy

[vital wagon]

ooo noted noted

[fierce lark]

no but like what would you even nerf? saryn needs a bigger look

[velvet pulsar]

Saryn got access to both roar and toxic lash

Others don't

[odd bough]

Are castanas or arum spinosa rivens worth anything?

[glass rampart]

Saryn needs more scaling in her 4

Fr trust me

[velvet pulsar]

Toxic lash works on incarnons and archguns

Others don't

[mighty flare]

no

[fierce lark]

gunbuffs: the frame is gonna be imbalanced in either direction depending on the tuning

[velvet pulsar]

You're 2-3 years late

[night laurel]

why's the coda torxica said to be so good btw?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[velvet pulsar]

50% damage vulnerability debuff

[coral crest]

It's a fast firing secondary with damage vulnerability

[odd bough]

Actually how long I’ve been gone💀

[glass rampart]

I'm kind of shocked that Toxic Lash doesn't count as a damage boosting ability for Roar purposes

[fierce lark]

because it’s just a strong weapon with good dps and a massive mag

[mighty flare]

temu dtox with unique passive

[night laurel]

ohh, i see

thanks!