builds-discussion

[glass rampart]

I use both

[winged nebula]

which is good

[fathom sky]

Left and keep rerolling

They're both bad

[winged nebula]

what should i lookout for CD?

[river palm]

usual stats, cc, cd, multi

[winged nebula]

another riv xd

[shrewd yew]

Is this optimal?

[winged nebula]

My RNG

left ya?

[late hemlock]

neg damage kills it ofc left

[plush brook]

Any tips? It does not hold up against lv 100+ enemies...

[mighty flare]

do you have access to its augment mod, arcanes, or its incarnon form?

[plush brook]

Not sure what you mean by augment, I could buy the arcane slot but I dont have any good arcanes, and I am working towards getting incarnon but not quite there yet. Still learning how Circuit works

[mighty flare]

soma has an augment (from deimos) that increases its crit chance when you hit enemies (counts multishot and punch through)
you can play in 1999 for the Primary Crux arcane which stretches the augment buff longer since the bonuses resets on reloading

[plush brook]

Still havent unlocked 1999, and ironically my lv 100+ enemies was from Deimos. Tried tackling a high level bounty to get standing

I guess I can do a lower lv bounty but I'm surprised I cant handle 100 yet

[chrome timber]

legalize nuclear frames

[mighty flare]

deimos you'd want to run like corrosive + heat since they resist viral damage and status

[plush brook]

Oh okay, I've just been using viral on everything 😅

Just looked up best damage type and that was the general answer

[mighty flare]

viral is usually the best, thats true
deimos is just one of the few exceptions

[plush brook]

Good to know, thank you!

[winged nebula]

can anyone with updated pro Stahlta build here

[timid dust]

what is this

[mighty flare]

that mod slot has the umbral polarity to fit umbral mods
the symbol on top of it will delete the umbral polarity

[timid dust]

ye but i can only swap to this symbol, not the polarity ones

[mighty flare]

oh

you're just swapping polarities, the symbol just shows which mod slot you've selected to move

[late hemlock]

an arcane is a HUGE power boost and 15 steel essence is not very hard to get, absolutely get that and slot something in there for a start

[plush brook]

Ive only got these two

Both 0/5 too

[late hemlock]

start by slotting in merciless, the levels will come by pretty quick as acolytes spawn in pretty much every steel path mission you do

its just free damage

[winged nebula]

can anyone send me stalhta build

[plush brook]

Sounds good, thank you

[late hemlock]

kinda depends on what you wanna do with it, can go acuity route or just normal stuff

but its generally super basic to build, just make sure you are using galvanized aptitude

[winged nebula]

well i wanna go use for disruption and if possible same forma other can be used for normal SP or dailies allrounder

[late hemlock]

if you are wanting to do long endurance run disruption and want this as your main boss killer then use acuity and drop the multishot, otherwise if its just mid level stuff then use galv chamber and its gonna be fine

[plush brook]

How do I get it to do Corr+Heat instead of Gas+Elec ?

[late hemlock]

the order of elemental mods matter

left to right, top to bottom

[plush brook]

Oh okay, thanks

[late hemlock]

you have fire and toxin first so they combine before the electric

swap crit delay and stormbringer

[plush brook]

👍

[late hemlock]

then toxin and heat swap them around as well

[mossy epoch]

What should I cycle for on the Bo?

[severe bough]

Range atk speed sc cc cd elc

Just the standard stuff normally

[mossy epoch]

Does -sd ruin this riven or is the +cc +cd worth it?

[vocal sierra]

What galvanized mod should I get for my Acceltra?

Galvanized chamber?

[severe bough]

-sd is always bad

[late hemlock]

galvanized chamber is pretty much a must slot unless you are building around acuity which cant multishot to begin with

[vocal sierra]

👍

[late hemlock]

if you dont have it make it your top priority

[vocal sierra]

Welp I just got it then lol

[celest thicket]

trumna, would blast be a better element here or should i keep heat ?

[celest thicket]

it would hurt if you needed the status itself to kill , but for melee we generallyy just need the proc itself , so in my opnion its almost harmless

[mossy epoch]

I see, thx for the explanation :)

[undone dust]

heat

do you have external viral priming?

[severe bough]

Viral heat / Corro heat ( with nourish or any other external viral )
blast wouldnt do anything rly
Also wouldnt use scope and crit delay together

[celest thicket]

I have nourish

[undone dust]

id definitely recommend throwing corro on there like vip said

[celest thicket]

I need the crit delay to proc tenacious bond

Does tenacious bond updates when aiming with galv scope?

[undone dust]

id just say drop scope honestly

[severe bough]

Tenacious bond is companion tho?

[undone dust]

you need a 50% cc to proc it

[celest thicket]

Yes but i need at least 60% crit on my weapon for it to proc on the predasite

[undone dust]

i know external cc like covenant can proc it if you dont have enough but idk if scope does

[severe bough]

Yea but on companion weapon tho

I thought we were talking about trumna

Lmao

[undone dust]

oh wait yeah LMAO
probably hunter synergy then so it would still involve the weapon

they did just mention a predasite and they have notoriously horrible cc

[severe bough]

Ah lmao

[undone dust]

pharaoh has like a 3.5% at base, idk if the other two do

[celest thicket]

Bro my build is basically a macaroni, everything depends on everything

[severe bough]

I mean technically i wouldnt use teno bond when cc is like ass cuz its just so much relying on diff things

Just use diriga or nauti fr🥀

[undone dust]

i love hunter synergy when the companion's cc is already good and it's a companion nuke setup

[celest thicket]

I like doggo 😭

[severe bough]

I feel you

[undone dust]

predasites are really fun

[severe bough]

Bruh i got every dog only huras came into some missions tho

[undone dust]

vizier kind of falls flat but medjay and pharaoh are great

[celest thicket]

ANYWAY BACK TO THE TRUMNA

So corro + heat and viral with nourish would be best right?

[undone dust]

yes

[severe bough]

Yep

[undone dust]

drop mag and scope for corro

[celest thicket]

Yeah mine is a Pharaoh, free toxin damage and lots of priming

And even some crowd control with the larva

[scarlet mason]

Does dark verse from dante can hit multiple parts of the body if enemy is ragdolled?

[mossy epoch]

My Nekros feels a bit underwhelming so I'm curious how I should go about updating my build (haven't really touched the mod loadout in god knows how long)

Shards are just 1 Tau Casting Speed and 1 Tau Armor cuz I barely have any

[severe bough]

For a generic nekros looting build i wouldnt focus to much on summons tho shield of shadows gives status immunity which is nice
Focus on much range some str some duration i play shield gate on him tho a normal tanking setup would def work

Soul punch smite nekros mobbing thraxes >>

[undone dust]

health tank nekros is fun honestly

[gleaming oasis]

would the amanata be modded differently due to its gimmick or would you just use the john melee build on it?

[severe bough]

Would love to play soul punch smite nekros in casc tho everyone would hate me and esp when fissure

But i dont wanna solo nekros

[undone dust]

ive done it solo and i am going to wholeheartedly admit it feels like shit ✌️😭 i just hate gating with nekros in general

the concept is fun but god i just cannot get past how ass his ability animatons are for gating and just trying to not get gunned down point blank

[severe bough]

Fr

Im terrifiyng the hole room the hole time

[undone dust]

his 4 being a full body animation that just locks me down ✌️🥹💔

at least i can fling myself around and still cast terrify

[severe bough]

Just do it in the air

Tbh

Nekros needed a rework

[undone dust]

i love being immediately divebombed when i cast it

[severe bough]

Or a slight changes

[undone dust]

raise shadows cap on his 4 please and thank you

[severe bough]

Idk why vauban bruh

His changes are some Qol ones and his traps are getting combined etc but frames like loki banshee nekros needed it more

[zenith hatch]

Is this build good on Temple;lizzie ? when i'll have the forma i'll put vital sense in the last slot.
im going for blast tox

[fierce lark]

use 60 cold 90 tox instead of vice versa, and elementalist instead of vital sense/serration

reason being to keep status weightings more even, it's hard to actually get toxin procs for archon continuity with this build

[zenith hatch]

Okay thank you!

[midnight horizon]

Maybe next is one of the 3, who knows

[severe bough]

Hopefully

[midnight horizon]

At least Vauban is having a retouch

My Glorious CC King!

[mossy epoch]

Nekros Shadow Cap scaling with anything would be dope so that you could run Nekros as a proper Summoner frame

[fierce lark]

nekros at least has a reason to exist

banshee needs it way more

best part about banshee is being sacrificed to give everyone else silence 💀

[late hemlock]

At least banshee doesn't actively disrupt you like a limbo can

[fierce lark]

did they say anything about a limbo rework

[late hemlock]

Sadly not afaik?

[fierce lark]

i cant see it happening unless it was already announced

he's too unique i feel like they don't want to touch him lol

[late hemlock]

Probably in the bucket of "his play rate is so low anyways so who cares"

He might be actively annoying but you never see him

[long portal]

it lets her actually kill things with her abilities in base sp, it makes her a little more reliable and fun

[mighty flare]

sonar is one of the best weapon buffs

[fierce lark]

why tf is she the actual least played frame then

[mighty flare]

doesnt have good skins 🥀

[undone dust]

truth she's genuinely butt ugly

[fierce lark]

shaking rn

[undone dust]

im shaking you

[fierce lark]

hmm

[karmic badger]

Cause it doesn't work for weakpoint mechanics lmao

Sure its great damage, but it won't work with acuity, it won't charge incarnons, and it won't benefit galv scope

[late hemlock]

Theres so much competition for weapon platforming now that even if it was fixed on weakspots idk how popular she would be?

Most people don't aim to begin with

[karmic badger]

Definitely for acuity weapons, particularly against grineer

[fierce lark]

vaulted, no popularity, we're in the middle of saryn harrow resurgence rn

doubt we'd see much more of her

[fathom sky]

It think the bigger issue is that Saryn exists rather than the fact the "weakpoint" mechanic is arbitrary and stupid.

[karmic badger]

I don't think most players are willing to go through the hassle of spore nuking

[fathom sky]

No one is, you just weapon platform with her now

[fierce lark]

other platforms see some amount of play, i dont think "saryn exists" is what's killing the others

[fathom sky]

Banshee's subsume being her best utility ability isn't helping her, at least

[graceful plank]

What equipment/mods should I be working towards for a uriel build?

Still relatively early-game if possible

[karmic badger]

The 3 range mods in existence
Stretch
Augur reach
Overextended

Technically there's the drift range mod, but that's a pain to farm

[late hemlock]

Wasn't that a 100% drop from its specified puzzle room?

[karmic badger]

Yeah, so you gotta play lua missions til you find the right one

At least corrupted mods are straight forward

[late hemlock]

Been close to a decade since I got em all but no way finding a specific tile is worse than grinding vaults with terrible loot pool lol

[limpid belfry]

i'm thinking adding umbra forma and equipping umbral intensify, good idea?

[undone dust]

honestly id rather drift mod grind

[opal tree]

How many status effects does galvanized aptitude need to be better than serration?

[late hemlock]

On additive weapons its 3, on multiplicative weapons you wanna use both

[topaz reef]

I JUST MADE THIS BUILD FOR NEZHA PRIME ANY TIPS? caps

[lucid nymph]

Really wanting to make a good Silva & Aegis build
Because I really like how the weapon looks

What I have so far
yes it's mostly auto-installed because I just needed something while ranking it up

[tulip sphinx]

im new so this isnt as good as other any suggestions?

[karmic badger]

With gauss, you can ditch vitality to put more points into your ability mods

Gauss almost never loses his shields, so HP and armor are pointless

[tulip sphinx]

ohh ok i never knew that

thx

[lucid nymph]

Would anybody be willing to help me improve my Silva & Aegis? I want to use it as my melee because it looks really cool, but I don't really know where to start.

I'd normally go to Overframe first, but any builds for it are from like
10 or more major updates back

[fierce lark]

probably because the weapon isn't very good or popular

[lucid nymph]

I'm aware. I still wanna try to make it work.

[fierce lark]

you won't make a regular silva & aegis good no matter what you do tbh

the prime variant at least has the base crit stats to let you mod crit on it

[lucid nymph]

Well I can't exactly get a prime version without using plat (which I don't want to do), so a regular will have to do.

[acoustic bluff]

Just pray and do an afflictions gas or some bs

[fierce lark]

the best you can do with this is drop lasting sting and melee prowess, move the heat mods to the end and then add vicious frost behind the heat to make viral+heat

replace pressure point with condition overload as well

and fever strike with virulent scourge if you have it

and an attack speed mod somewhere

berserker fury or quickening

[copper tree]

rate how bad my build is

[fierce lark]

drop fever strike for magnetic rush and use berserker fury over fury

berserker fury in general is the best attack speed mod for most weapons

also drop melee fortification for exposure or afflictions if you have either of those

[fierce lark]

thats probably about as good as it'll get until galvanized/primed mods (and ideally better weapons)

[brisk estuary]

My valkyr's claws

The build isn't bad, but i feel like it could be a lot better

[fierce lark]

talons aren't really a heavy spam weapon, build should look closer to this

or you can replace CO & fever strike with elec mods and do influence

or ppp instead of co

[brisk estuary]

Actually while i'm at it, here's my Valkyr

[karmic badger]

Is archon flow only there because you don't have the prime version?

[fierce lark]

ive never been onboard with the rage/hp tanking valkyr, using hysteria's pseudo-immortality to survive only requires you be attacking enemies and saves so much mod space

[brisk estuary]

Yeah

[karmic badger]

Okay fair

[brittle sleet]

You know you can farm Silva & Aegis Prime right now, right? It's part of the prime resurgence

[brisk estuary]

The Rage mod is for energy upkeep, so i can use hysteria more often

[lucid nymph]

Oh huh

[fierce lark]

i get the idea, but valkyr barely takes any damage in the first place beyond very high-scaling steel path, so rage isn't consistent unless you stand there any let enemies hit you

arcane battery is much better than flow if you can get ahold of it

attack speed isn't needed on the claws either because of war cry, same reason why umbral fiber doesn't do a whole lot

[brisk estuary]

Do you know about prime resurgence?

[lucid nymph]

I do but I don't pay attention to it

[brisk estuary]

You should, it's a great source of new gear

[tall orchid]

Hi guys. I'm struggling with Energy on saryn prime. Any advice ?

[karmic badger]

Equilibrium

[viscid bane]

Is Secondary Shiver worth farming or nah?

[hexed coyote]

Any good cedo build?

[old marsh]

make a melee influence build. nothing special

[deep grotto]

Hrm
Ceti Lacera or Jat Kusar?

Im wondering which one would realistically perform better

[old marsh]

neither

i wish Jat Kusar had its own augment like Jat Kittag and Sobek

[deep grotto]

Damn??

Wym neither gang 💀

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[deep grotto]

Im gonna have the kusar soon and i already have the ceti
I wanna have at least one of them built so i don’t end up amongst the Archimedia whiners when im forced to use them

[mighty flare]

nope

[deep grotto]

All things considered “neither” is subpar advice
Although i didn’t clarify i already had these

Honestly warframe moment
Asking which one would turn out to be better when fully built and getting hit with “don’t use either of them”

[mighty flare]

ceti's innate electric makes it much better for the usual influence setup, doesn't stand out much beyond that
jat kusar's innate heat could be made for some affliction stuff, but its heavy blast gimmick is pretty meh. It might have some niche uses but 🤷‍♂️
its like a proto of the tak & lug

out of the few blades & whips, **dorrclave ** is the best, which is what they prob meant by neither of them

i forgot if the blast thing acted like acid shells or the other stuff

[fierce lark]

equilibrium with synth deconstruct on a companion

saryn barely presses buttons so you don't need much energy to begin with unless you're shield gating

[midnight horizon]

Amen

[maiden oracle]

Trying to figuer out how to build this for Influence

I have no idea what I'm doing

Don't mind the empty slot that's for Weeping Wounds later

[nocturne spindle]

Do you have the chromatic blade augment

[maiden oracle]

Yes

[deep grotto]

Looking into it, Ceti has better stats anyway
It’s a shame, Jay Kusar looks awesome

[maiden oracle]

That's why all the damage is electric

[deep grotto]

Someone get the Melee Prime image out

Actually I should have it somewhere, gimme a sec Mr snip

[hexed coyote]

Le good?

[nocturne spindle]

Then you don't need shocking touch right?

[deep grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786650853431181342/1464043077508272286/melee_build.png?ex=698136de&is=697fe55e&hm=d7ceeea44d37f5f397a76a4a43c8898279c26f026c373dd481a85bc34c6c358d&

[maiden oracle]

Not really but I thought it'd help since I don't have the melee electric 60/60

[deep grotto]

Literally just do that
Every
Single
Time

[celest thicket]

the classic, extremely original

[deep grotto]

I’m so deadass when I mean you genuinely don’t need to put thought into a melee influence build

You can staple this exact setup to nearly any melee and it’d work almost the same

[celest thicket]

btw i prefer opportunity reach, isnt as consistent as discipline but i like the extra range and time to set up an attack

[deep grotto]

Real

[karmic badger]

LIGHT SPAM MELEE INFLUENCE SLOP

Don't get me wrong, its incredibly effective if you need to do a 500 kill challenge for the calendar, but damn is it brain dead

[hexed coyote]

I think I need more crit

[celest thicket]

btw , is this rhino build good ? never really used him that much before so i dont know if stacking armor is really optimal (i do like to use bulwark for unconditional damage on primary tho)

[maiden oracle]

Yeah it sucks but I usually forget Umbra Blade exists

I only have this as the nuclear "oh shit I can't kill anything" option

[fierce lark]

stacking armor on rhino is ass

[deep grotto]

Considering Iron skin yeah
Although doesn’t it scale off his armour too?

[fierce lark]

his base armor is cheeks, better off running max shields and parasitic armor

it does scale off of his armor

but his base armor value is like 290

[karmic badger]

To play rhino effectively, you need to shower

[mighty flare]

we'll get kuva kusar maybe never

[karmic badger]

Shower in the jade light for ludicrous overguard

[fierce lark]

300 strength iron skin is like 7k og

but if you want the gigaguard run a bunch of strength and shield mods and arcane expertise + parasitic armor

[deep grotto]

Vaykor Kusar….

We need more syndicate weapons

Those are always p neat

[celest thicket]

oh then stacking armor is not that bad, with 200 strenght iits already at 9k

that said i am using like 4 mod slots on just armor

[fierce lark]

are they? other than the secura lecta and rakta dark dagger they're all kinda just worse than alternatives

or too bad to care about lol

[fierce lark]

stacking armor is just a worse version of stacking shields

[celest thicket]

i need to subsume parasitic for that tho, but true

[coral crest]

As the what option

[fierce lark]

also if you're spending 4 mod slots for armor and only getting 9k overguard, that's actually pathetic

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kenjou-cat-500x-shake-gif-10133115776213464568

[fierce lark]

cause a strength stacking build gets just about as much

[celest thicket]

yea and makes roar much stronger

[old marsh]

honestly never played Rhino for OG. its more like a "oh shit" button when shields run out. wish Rhino's iron skin transferred to squad like Roar

[celest thicket]

i mean dante basically does that so...

[fierce lark]

i just play him because passive og means no self stagger

psf at home

[celest thicket]

i just like how he looks

[old marsh]

exactly so Rhino should also be allowed to. that and change his passive

[celest thicket]

thats literally it

[karmic badger]

Should probably subsume a damage buffer compatible with roar

[old marsh]

i have Pillage on Rhino's 1

[celest thicket]

call me basic but i just think he looks super cool with the trunma

[old marsh]

Rhino looks good with everything imo.

[celest thicket]

im using nourish on his 1 because i like the build freedom it gives for weapons

[old marsh]

ye. Nourish is also a good option

[karmic badger]

Yeah pretty much

The box standard gun man

Nothing wrong if you need vanilla

[leaden thistle]

It is the finest flavour, after all

[celest thicket]

i was kinda tired of using gyre and atlas and nuking everything

[deep grotto]

Every beefy frame looks fire with the trumna

[karmic badger]

Gyre immediately crumples as soon as the enemy density drops below 4 per second

[fierce lark]

rhino with the reconifex is kinda funny

his giga strength roar triple dips the resupply dot

[celest thicket]

wait what ? how does that work ?

[old marsh]

ye struggles in low density missions.

[karmic badger]

Roar works like faction damage. It boosts the main damage, the damage from the extra fire bullet, and the actual heat proc

[fierce lark]

also triple dips influence

[celest thicket]

INFLUENCE MENTIONED

[fierce lark]

haunted by my past

[deep grotto]

We can use melee influence like a pattern recognition meme

[karmic badger]

Is this loss

[deep grotto]

Possibly

[celest thicket]

i felt my back hurt as soon as i read this

[hexed coyote]

Is muh build good?

[chrome plinth]

what archon shard do you guys recommend for cyte?

[coral crest]

Is this Loss?

[coral plank]

Looks like Momentous Bond can trigger Secondary Fortifier

[fierce lark]

a cast and all the duration

[woven drift]

what's the best dual daggers stance?

[leaden thistle]

the one that fits your weapon :)

[woven drift]

Ngl best answer ive had

[leaden thistle]

Most attack patterns imo don't matter when you're a mach-10 beyblade

[fierce lark]

gnashing payara

that might be the only non-conclave dual dagger stance? it’s the only one i remember by name lmao

[leaden thistle]

Okina has the Spinning Needle
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Spinning_Needle

[woven drift]

That's fair I've got sinking talons
Gnashing
Spinning needle

[leaden thistle]

There's also a silver* mod Sinking Talon that works with Ether Daggers

[woven drift]

But yeah I'm using okina prime

[fierce lark]

stance mods are usually “whatever fits your polarity”

the difference between them is minor

[leaden thistle]

I actually don't like Gnashing payara because it's neutral stab has such a noticeable pause in the stab part

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/File:GnashingPayaraCombo0.gif

[fierce lark]

actually

spinning needle is miles above the rest by the looks of things

highest dps forward and neutral combos by a fair bit, forward combo has a lot of aoe, and has 9 hits to apply status

i cant imagine why it wouldn't be the best by a lot

[rich grove]

stance mods... pending on said mods it do play out differently with what type of damage it does. aka Impact/Puncture/Slash.

[fierce lark]

stances don’t affect the type of damage you do, but some stances do force certain procs

[rich grove]

so if a weapon does 1 better try to match it up with a stance that fits

[coral crest]

More like Stinking Talon

[fierce lark]

this doesn't really apply to anything

even if, for example, a stance has some forced slash procs

slash status damage isn't affected by the weapon's slash damage or weighting

[leaden thistle]

Looking at the avg multiplier list I assume? Gnashing Payara has a 709%/s mult on the forward block even if it's 4 hits (2x2) it's a pretty strong burst of just damage

[fierce lark]

yeah but how often do you remember to actually use block combos lol

i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people didn't even know block combos were a thing

[woven drift]

Oh I mainly just use block combo and forward combos

[leaden thistle]

Depends on the character :V
I do somewhat often main / full hold a melee weapon and play around with the block combos

[woven drift]

Kullervo

[leaden thistle]

Garuda~

[rich grove]

stance combos is more or less for melee exclusive. but that option is put off for more weapons.

[karmic badger]

WAIT FEK IT IS

[woven drift]

Ok here's a better question I'm thinking of building venka prime is worth adding form as into

[fierce lark]

probably the best claw weapon, but nothing special

[karmic badger]

Da claw

[leaden thistle]

Proooobably? They are the highest Crit Chance claws (excluding Garuda's Talons) as well as the highest Crit damage (including Garudas' Talons) and has the unique ability to have a 13x Crit multiplier

All other weapons stop at 12x

So yeah, invest in the crit monster melee

[fierce lark]

ayo wtf

[nocturne spindle]

👀

[urban cave]

Damnn

[midnight horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-cat-kitty-case-oh-caseoh-kitty-gif-10158875947500614550

[slender ether]

Build 1 or build 2?

Which do you guys think is better

[fierce lark]

the one with galvanized CO

but drop the viral mods

[torpid oar]

okay ty

[graceful coyote]

Any tips to build up atlas rubble faster?

[scarlet mason]

Pull+pyroteknics 🔥
Pull+dark vers ???
Anyone knows if it works the same way?

[lavish orbit]

Stone them, kill them, repeat, there's no real tip besides high range with high duration will make more stoned enemies so more rubble if you have high aoe

[lavish orbit]

Pyrotechnics has a unique gimmick with ragdoll, iirc no other ability has

[coral crest]

Pretty sure it's dependent on whether the ability is coded as a weapon projectile or not

Because then it starts considering weak points, hence distinguish body parts

And when ragdolled it will go through all body parts

Pyrotechnics are coded as such and pierce enemies freely

Dark verse isn't

But don't quote me on this relation. I may be wrong

null star sonar are also a thing though

And null star is another weapon coded ability

[coral plank]

How do yall know if the weapons multiply on the condition overload? without the wiki?

[latent adder]

With the wiki or a spreadsheet

[scarlet mason]

Thats what i was going for!

[scarlet mason]

I have dante and i'm considering subsuming him to get that dark verse. Just don't know if i can use it in this was, thats why i ask. I actually know about null star sonar, haven't tryied it yet. I did try sonic boom and pyroteknics on banshee since she can ragdoll enemies too. I tried ability from gyre but its kind not to my standards.

[lavish orbit]

Dark verse works better with Nezha's 4th

[shadow wren]

anyone got a torid build?

for sp

[coral crest]

Pretty sure Pyrotechnics does much more for it

[scarlet mason]

Yeah that too. Will try that soon.

[lavish orbit]

In either case everything is one shot

[coral crest]

Pyrotechnics are faster

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[compact cypress]

whos got a lavos build? have no clue how hes meant to be played let alone built

[glass rampart]

he has 2 good playstyles, gun platform with valence formation, and caster

[compact cypress]

id like a new caster to play but does it need something like the mecha set?

[glass rampart]

mecha set is ideal but iirc not essential

usually for caster lavos you go full umbral then a crap ton of range and duration but i dont do that

[versed harbor]

use mecha set O____O

triumbral?? nah

[glass rampart]

i go a ton of range and duration with precision intensify

[compact cypress]

i should but i dont think i have a companion for it

most posts ive seen mention a huras kubrow

[glass rampart]

and i use a blue archon shard for armour to use arcane persistence

[compact cypress]

something like this ninjase one?

[glass rampart]

i dont recommend using blind rage for caster lavos

caster lavos wants at least positive efficiency so he can play around his cooldowns

[compact cypress]

yeah true

[glass rampart]

so probably swap it with his 3 augment

[compact cypress]

kk

back on topic with the mecha set, can be be on any companion?

[late hemlock]

On beast types

Wiki probably has the full list but its generally kubrows and predasites? I don't remember if hounds or charger or something else is on it

[lavish orbit]

I only play kubrows with him, easier to fix the build

And so I'm sure with mecha set compatibility

[late hemlock]

If you are going full caster might as well have a sunika kubrow with a primary stat stick for BIG damage

Unless he has a synergy with a companion I dont remember

[lavish orbit]

I would use swift bite + lingering mutation for cooldowns,
archon vitality + archon continuity (two heat status, ideal for nuking with his 4th + corrosive over toxin status),
Overextend + Cunning drift for range (no use of PSF cuse his passive),
Transient fortitude + [either Umbral Intensify or Precision Intensify] for strength,
Both Mecha set,
Almost like Ninjase so the archon shards are a bit more important for me, 2 red to counteract the duration loss of transient fortitude, 1 tau blue armor to get persistence always up and the next are free, I choose 2 casting speed personaly

[viscid bane]

What do I roll for Cedo Riven? The usual CC CD and MS?

[versed harbor]

ideally ye but rivens are basically unusable on this weapon tbh

cd ms fr ideal but fr isnt useful for like an alt fire build

tox would be good to replace toxic barrage easily aswell

[ionic horizon]

sorry wrong chat

[cerulean rune]

How can I improve these ? I got bad RNG for EDA this week

Already planning on putting Brief Respite on Banshee

[past jungle]

anyone got a good crew zarr build?

[scarlet mason]

I replaced her 4th skill with pyrotecnics form temple. Works well with her 1st skill since it ragdolls enemies. Use sonar, sonic boom with armor strip. And immidietaly pyroteknics. As companion you can go with shade. Didn't try it yet with him but you are caster frame with this. Should work.

Pyroteknics can hit and trigger sonar and resonance respectively.

Since you have armor strip then no need for corrosive on your weapone. Put viral on companion weapone and use duplex bond.

Best element for banshee is blast since blast explosions can trigger sonar and resonance

Also 2 augur mods on your secondary weapone.

[smoky tangle]

quick question does lycath's hunt (voruna's 3) proc arcon flow and archon vitality?

[night laurel]

how borked can we make this? i know Reconifex has a 1000 mag size

[glass rampart]

voruna main here. voruna's 3 does not proc archon flow or vitality her 2 does

[gloomy badge]

wow

[lost hull]

15x(square root of (5x mag cap)) additive to serration

[hearty night]

while building gauss should i go for more range or strength or duration?

im kinda new to gauss

[lost hull]

Duration is his biggest stat to go for, his 4th doesn't really use str

[hearty night]

so i should mainly focus on duration and put a little bit of str and range?

[lost hull]

Yea

[hearty night]

thanks

[lost hull]

No problem

[vocal sierra]

What Broken War build should I go for to 1: semi easily clear the star chart, and 2: be ready to do the angels of the zaramin and the whispers in the walls quests?

[astral tinsel]

It's bad unless you can fire freakishly fast

[night laurel]

oh my god i selective reading'd the last bit
if Regulators had a 1000 round magazine we'd fire through the heavens

[severe bough]

I like to play banshee with gloom its pretty chill massive crowd control tho u can subsume evade solves survivalbilty completely and has good synergy with sonar and yea ogris is pretty bonkers tho would just take another weapon if it works out

[coral crest]

mag dump alt fire is a good criteria

And someone like Oraxia or Garuda

Or Cyte? Does resupply trigger plated round?

[astral tinsel]

Wild frenzy could work ig

[coral crest]

Quellor

[coral plank]

I can now nuke, now for my next issue is survivability and energy... damn

[fresh solstice]

Is this good?

[severe bough]

Sevagoth?

[coral plank]

Yeah

Gotta login if you want an sc

[severe bough]

If u need any help sure

[hot minnow]

hey, im a beginner and i love the melee weapon combat, a clan member of mine suggested i run either broken war or xoris, but im not sure im optimizing my damage as i don't know a lot about mod optimization yet, does anyone have a middle of the road build i can achieve in a bit with some good damage? i tried looking up online and they all have endgame or at least later-game mods i don't have a way to get yet

[maiden oracle]

Have you done the Sacrifice yet?

Or any Arbitrations?
I'm assuming not since I'd consider Gal mods under the later stuff but you do unlock Arbis kinda early imo

[severe bough]

Arbis is unlocked via sp

Not really early

[reef rain]

it isn't

[steady stirrup]

whats some good stuff for uriel, i wasnt gonna spend money on this game but he was kinda cool

[carmine magnet]

Early-game, you just want to be hitting your basics. Damage, crit chance, crit damage, elemental damage (for element, Heat is ~always good, you can later add Viral or Corrosive), attack speed.

Later, you can look into getting 60/60 elemental mods, Condition Overload, Blood Rush+Weeping Wounds, etc, but to start with your guiding star should just be increasing as many of those damage stats as possible, as they all multiply together in the end. So long as you're doing that, your output will never be that bad.

The Xoris is usually built around throwing it, so it will also be important for you to get/use Volatile Quick Return. The throw is a heavy attack, so you'll also want Killing Blow or Amalgam Organ Shatter for it.

[hot minnow]

ive been trying some stuff similar to that, good to know im more or less on the optimized side than not

[hot minnow]

not yet, still some quests to go

[maiden oracle]

No

I got it near

Uranus I think?
The outer gas giants

[hot minnow]

its on pluto

[maiden oracle]

Do what the smarter person above said tbh

Yea close enough, still a lot sooner than SP

[hot minnow]

ive unlocked it but i havent got the time to finish it yet

[maiden oracle]

Once you unlock Arbis I'd suggest working towards being able to do them consistently

Vitus Essence gives you Galvanized mods which are some of the best in the game imo

[hot minnow]

im building wukong (like i said im on the melee side more often than not) but i heard his actual melee is trash

[maiden oracle]

If you've got a plat income/surplus you could also spend some of it buying certain mods off sites like Warframe.market, that's how I got my copy of blood rush

It's really funny how busted it can get

[maiden oracle]

Can't really say anything about that, sorry

I'm still like
Toddler tenno

[severe bough]

Yea they changed it someday to doing a junction instead of all nodes lmao

Saw it in the wiki now

[maiden oracle]

I've made it past baby but I'm still really new in the grand scheme of it

[hot minnow]

ive sold some prime blueprints for plat but im gonna grind them for now instead of buying something im not exacly sure is worth it

[maiden oracle]

Dunno why tbh

Shouldn't be as far ahead as SP but I feel like Pluto is too early to

[hot minnow]

just gonna pile them up

[maiden oracle]

Blood rush is absolutely worth it imo

[severe bough]

It so a long time ago when i got it i never noticed changes

[maiden oracle]

It gives you more crit chance for each level of combo multiplier

[hot minnow]

i mean, it took me 50 hours to get to pluto, but i also finish all the nodes on the planets so i dont know

[maiden oracle]

Weeping wounds functions the same as blood rush except for status instead of crit

[nocturne heron]

could someone give me a burston incarnon build ?

[maiden oracle]

Well the way I've heard new people usually do it is just rush the solar system instead of mastering each planet in order

So Pluto just feels early for something like Arbis, for how hard it was for me as a new player st least

[hot minnow]

i mean i guess so, i just like extractors so i finished all the nodes when i could

the only rushing i did was getting to void through europa so i could farm argon and build wukong

[hot minnow]

looked it up on the wiki, ill try to farm it when im grinding wukong levels

[maiden oracle]

That works too

But it's an essential melee mod imo

It's just such an unreal amount of crit

[warm aspen]

Any good caliban builds?

[hot minnow]

"Without a Combo Counter, Blood Rush provides no bonus to critical chance. At 2x, it increases critical chance by 0.40 × (2 - 1) = 40% and at 3x, it increases critical chance by 0.40 × (3 - 1) = 80%. At the standard max Combo Counter of 12x, it increases critical chance by 440%."

damn

[maiden oracle]

Big numbers

Consistent orange and red crits on my Broken War thanks to it

[hot minnow]

ill probably do something like that, xoris is fun and nukes bosses with heavy but i cant walk around on mach 3 speed pressing melee as much

which is fun

[maiden oracle]

True

[maiden oracle]

I'll see if I can dig up an older build I used for it

Eh this is close enough

[hot minnow]

just a question, blood rush is is 12% on a spy mission, rotation A

the wiki says if i finish one vault, it always grabs A rotation rewards

[maiden oracle]

Yea iirc

[hot minnow]

so can i just finish one vault and fail the rest to roll it as much as i can?

[maiden oracle]

1 = A, 2=B, 3=C

[maiden oracle]

Sounds like it yea

What uhh
Tier spy tho

The first 4 planets are 1, the next 4 are 1 iirc, and the last couple are 3

[hot minnow]

its Pavlov on Lua

apparently its a horrible mission lol lotta people complaining

[maiden oracle]

Oh gods

Lua missions like being quirky

I don't remember doing Pavlov but something tells me it wasn't fun

[quiet laurel]

isnt pavlov lua the spy

[hot minnow]

ok its a horrible mission im not doing that

[quiet laurel]

its just very mechanical

once you know its ight

[trim hill]

Pavlov goated spy mission

[hot minnow]

it seems easier on limbo

[coral plank]

Ahhh- Broken War, how nostalgic

[trim hill]

Used to be a great farm, now it's just mid. Actual gameplay is peak spy, tho

[hot minnow]

it is as spy as its getting

ill see if i can finish limbo and at least it will make it less annoying

[trim hill]

Limbo + Ghost solos all spy missions with ease. You can also try Wukong, Ivara, or even ||operator void mode||

[vocal igloo]

anyone else encounter values like this on roar on sevagoth prime? I have 275 strength.

[lyric plover]

Hey guys. What are 2 good arcanes for Oraxia? Just got her built. Or if you want to share some builds, that's cool too

[trim hill]

I think it's because it's rank 0. You have to level up your Sevagoth

[vocal igloo]

Ah ty

I just used a forma on him and the values seemed a bit low

[trim hill]

Yup, that would do it. It looks like you subsumed over his 4? In which case, it won't be full power until rank 30

[vocal igloo]

Yeah i used it over his 4. Shadow is good but gloom has better synergy in my opinion

[hot minnow]

oh yeah true, im building wukong for my melee build, the gas form doesnt trigger alarms? didn't know that

[trim hill]

Wukong makes spy missions super easy. Only problem is that you don't actually engage with 90% the vaults' mechanics. So if you're ever in a spot where you don't know how to do them and you can't use Cloud Walker, you might inadvertently make the mission that much harder for yourself.

But if you know how to do the vault, Wukong is pretty much a free win

[hot minnow]

fair enough

does the ghost invis trigger alarms?

[trim hill]

Yes, it will. But with Limbo, you can dodge into the rift and circumvent them anyways

While still remaining invisible

[deep grotto]

Most of Pavlov’s vaults involve doing puzzles anyway

[hot minnow]

yeah ill just get limbo then

[gaunt minnow]

would elemental ward work on protea?

[gaunt minnow]

he's unique

[hot minnow]

hes also super cheap and builds in 1 minute for some reason

[trim hill]

I mean, it will "work". Idk about efficacy, tho.

[scarlet mason]

You can do pavlov in 3 min. Without solving any puzzles

[compact cypress]

can u send a pic of the build?

[gaunt minnow]

he's a quest

[hot minnow]

yeah but you don't need to build him for the quest idk why its a min

not complaining though

[pallid quiver]

where do u farm him

[hot minnow]

you buy the blueprint and the components are quest rewards

[gaunt minnow]

I just want to build her uniquely. I have roar on her with temporal artillery

[trim hill]

I get that. It might work well enough for you, idrk. I use Coil Horizon on her, myself

[gaunt minnow]

imagine if every frame was like that. Wouldn't they make getting aygments more tedious?

[gaunt minnow]

for archon stretch?

[hot minnow]

i wouldnt mind warframes being 6 or 12 hours but most being 3 days is very annoying

[gaunt minnow]

i agree

[trim hill]

Yeah, + grouping so I can hit enemies more easily with her turret

[gaunt minnow]

I see

I probably wouldve went larva with its augment and got electric damage through a companion

[scarlet mason]

Can Coil Horizon crit?

I know it can crit on gyre but can it crit on other warframes? Can it benefit from avenger and tenatious bund?

[sturdy sigil]

Hey! I am looking to fix my AX52 build. Its okay.. I just wanna make it better. If we have to remove the rivian for now its fine. Just let me know what you think.

[trim hill]

I pull the ball using the augment so that I basically have infinite energy generation for free for the duration, as well. Every pull also counts as one stack for Protea's passive, letting you stack +100% STR on every other ability without spending any

[steady stirrup]

what can i get for this weapon to make it greater

[trim hill]

I haven't noticed any crits on any other frame

[trim hill]

Start using some elemental mods on there

[gaunt minnow]

Oh shit, thats dope

[steady stirrup]

for sure for sure, any recommendations?

what would be a good elemental mod? or are they all close to equal

[trim hill]

My suggestion is viral + electric. To get viral, combine cold and toxin first. Then to get electric, slot it after (to the right/bottom) of the previous two elements.

If you can't fit all those and you want to run one element for the time being, electric or cold are probably your best bets. Electric will give you some AOE potential per shot, and cold will give you crowd control + crit damage

[obtuse locust]

hey gamers, just wondering hwats a better gun, the phenmor or Tenet Arca Plasmor

[steady stirrup]

ok cool cool thanks

[lavish orbit]

• Stretch not mandatory, can be replaced for survivability or other thing (mecha for example) if you use cunning drift, umbral intensify/precision intensify has your choice (precision will make your 4th nuke better tho)
• Archon shards if you have : One tau blue to activate persistence, 2 red duration to get over transient fortitude, 1-2 yellow casting speed, but that's just to optimize, only the tau blue is important for persistence

[compact cypress]

aight

[compact cypress]

what beast do you recommend for mecha set builds?

[lavish orbit]

I personaly use Huras with Stalk, so you can cast and stay invisible, but anything can be good, still needs to be compatible with Mecha set if you use it tho

[late hemlock]

For mecha companion nuke id definitely recommend sunika, both precepts are just good damage precepts

[distant jackal]

Stahlta build pls

[compact cypress]

now my biggest issue. how do i effectively play caster lavos

[late hemlock]

sunika sample without external buffs or buildup abilities

[lavish orbit]

You'll need to build up Impetus by using his abilities and elements.

• Each ability will put one unique element (toxin, electric, heat, cold).
• When you hold (or press if your invert in the parameter) you can get the element in standby (lower right of your screen) so you can create combination (corrosive, magnetic, etc...)
• By holding an element, your next ability will consume it and do an extra instance of damage and status proc of that elements.
• Build up a large amount of status on enemies, then use your 4th, each unique element on the enemy will double the damages.

[lavish orbit]

I should look more over Kubrow for real, I only did the Huras for confort

[late hemlock]

sunika as pretty stupid as per example

you can give it a roar and it does the same thing to a room of techrot babaus

or just spend some energy to get duplex going so you have 3 of them running around lol

companions doing funny damage is definitley one of my favorite things nowadays

[paper herald]

Any subsume recommendations for Wisp? Wanting to replace Wil-O-Wisp. Looking to do a Cataclysmic Gate build with high range and strength. First thing that comes to mind is Empower, but any other suggestions?

[sick helm]

if anyones ever used this i really love this weapon how do i make it good 🥹

[floral sky]

For the final laetum upgrade is devouring attrition or overwhelming attrition better

[compact cypress]

i cant remember by name but generally the better one is the non crit one

[trim hill]

Punch thruuuuuu

[mighty flare]

yeah its usually viral heat
https://overframe.gg/build/963843/vermisplicer/primary-vermisplicer-viral-heat/

[undone dust]

overwhelming for crit
devouring for non crit

[floral sky]

Tbf i was thinking of pairing elemental excess with devouring as that seems pretty good

[deep grotto]

Vermisplicer works better with fortuna kitgun parts iirc

Brash and something else??

[mighty flare]

no? tremor is good

[deep grotto]

Oh

Thanks man i was about to ask you 😭

Meats lore

[mighty flare]

you use sinister reach to compensate tremors smaller range making it usual best option

the only kit that really wants the high fire rate parts is like primary tombfinger cuz of its charge time

[deep grotto]

Tombfinger the goat

[compact cypress]

do the elements you use for abilities not matter that much or is there a 'best combo' on each ability

[floral sky]

Is accelerated isotope or heated charge better on the laetum if im already using scorch

[undone dust]

excess is usually used on both builds (can also use the headshot damage on the crit build but it goes either way)

[lavish orbit]

Well, the simple ones basically (viral, heat, corrosive, eletric, toxin), but since you want to build up impetus, you need to use all the elements

[floral sky]

So far im building for heat and corrosive but idk if more heat or more firerate woukd be better

[fierce lark]

devouring is probably better for regular use more often, or for brain-off incarnon spam

overwhelming is better if you can land majority headshots

overwhelming has higher ceiling as well so better for acolytes/thrax/bosses esp if you can set it up with outburst

[compact cypress]

i can likely drop some of these survivability mods for something like flow/more power strength right?

[fierce lark]

circumvent can solo survivability by itself up to levels you don't see outside of endurance

rolling guard is good alongside it since you're rolling a lot anyway

[compact cypress]

hows this then ^^

[spiral spire]

Good?

[brisk obsidian]

?

[upper topaz]

guys help me :death:

[fierce lark]

im not running flow personally, but if you're running pillage you probably want it

3 & 4 are usually cast once per mission so energy is just for keeping up whatever you subsume over 2 and placing arcspheres

which costs like 50 energy

[compact cypress]

yeah flow isnt needed

what could be there instead?

[fierce lark]

i have continuity there

[spiral spire]

k/r?

[fierce lark]

k

or rather, take old and keep rerolling

both are bad

[spiral spire]

Damn even the left one?

[fierce lark]

it's ever so slightly better than vital sense but garbage for riven standards

[spiral spire]

?

What should i look for?

[fierce lark]

3 of crit damage, crit chance, damage, multishot, toxin, fire rate and a harmless negative

status chance is okay

[spiral spire]

Lots of kuva ;-;

[compact cypress]

honestly how viable is it so helminth shock over her 2 for shock trooper in that last slot?

[fierce lark]

eh, i run 4 +elec primary shards on her so it wouldn't really add much

[spiral spire]

?

[fierce lark]

left is hilariously strong on grineer tiles, right is great if you don't have primed cryo rounds, still generally good otherwise

[spiral spire]

I have primed cyro so yeah im go with left one ty

[fierce lark]

i would go right there

dmg to grineer doesn't apply to corrupted so it's frequently a dead stat

[late hemlock]

man really cant get out of corpus negatives huh

at least corpus just kinda die anyways

[fierce lark]

replace all the blast mods with toxin and make corpus evaporate

[gaunt sapphire]

i play qorvex and oberon very often, how can i make use of secondary irradiate with that

[fierce lark]

uh press abilities equip irradiate and shoot

idk lol

irradiate seems like it's at its best when you treat it like acid shells

[gaunt sapphire]

ok but whats the secondary build

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont have acid shells so idk what you mean

[fierce lark]

stick it on a forced status dot buff frame and shoot it at enemies

anyways idk take gun that is independently good, build normally and replace the arcane with irradiate, prime enemies with hallowed ground and then shoot them ig

[gaunt sapphire]

ok

[undone dust]

smite infusion or smth idk

[fierce lark]

this concept has some issues

qorvex can't effectively radiation prime, the only thing that applies the status quickly is crucible blast and you have to enter/exit the animation which is ungodly slow

by the time you've finished priming the room you could probably sit in crucible and finish killing them all with that

[undone dust]

my favorite weapons platform
qorvex

[fierce lark]

containment wall can do up to 7 stacks depending on relative position

[fierce lark]

unironically qorvex is probably a solid gunframe nowadays

base armor enables bulwark with 1 armor mod, passive 4 punch through, status immunity on his 3

[gaunt sapphire]

no i think building for hallowed ground might be better

[fierce lark]

he's not saryn but like

bulwark helped him out a ton i think

[gaunt sapphire]

what specifically does Hallowed Eruption do

it sounds like a harmony passive type thing where it instantly redeems rad status

[fierce lark]

increases the duration a bunch and lets you recast it to deal the remaining damage over time at once

like harmony/expedite

[gaunt sapphire]

i wonder if thatd be good or not for irradiate

[fierce lark]

i doubt it, you want the ground down so it can prime rad stacks

but also you could press 1 instead lmao

[gaunt sapphire]

making a smite build isnt viable

[fierce lark]

what

[gaunt sapphire]

its an absurd amount of investment for something not particularily worth it

[spare lake]

Just got nokko and threw this together, anyone got any tips?

[gaunt sapphire]

not unless you really like smite

[fierce lark]

smite doesn't require large amounts of investment at all, and you can build around it with 0 forma easily

[gaunt sapphire]

do we mean nuking and actually getting kills with smite

[fierce lark]

yes

[gaunt sapphire]

smite does impact, puncture, and rad

[fierce lark]

smite does % hp damage

i took this into sp cascade to level the frame to 30 for mr and smite was 1shotting everything

[astral tinsel]

is it still affected by viral after the cap?

[fierce lark]

is there even a cap? lol

i dont fully understand how the ability works, i just know i took him into cascade for 1 run and i learned that you can throw shit on him and with enough strength he will unconditionally destroy whatever he is looking at with 1 button regardless of level

[astral tinsel]

it caps out at 75%

[mighty flare]

roar/abiltiy dmg/dmg vulnerability/viral all boost it to go over the cap

[fierce lark]

ah, im at 64% base so im probably hitting that with molt aug

roar alone might be enough tbh

[gaunt sapphire]

its not worth it, the helminth is not worth it, you can build his other abilities for better and easier

its a less viable way to use his kit but its still usable

[fierce lark]

??

[mighty flare]

smite is the only thing that reasonable deals dmg

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont think damage is exactly what a rad focused kit should even be doing, hes good for support and cc

[fierce lark]

death is a pretty good cc

[gaunt sapphire]

not unless you are specifically playing solo all the time i really do not think its worth it

[trim hill]

Smite does some kooky dmg numbers. And it smart-targets eximus units if you are aiming betwixt a few enemies. If you get grouping on him, Smite will 100% smash crowds

[mighty flare]

you dont have to give that up to build for smite

[gaunt sapphire]

hrmmm maybe i just played old oberon too much

[fierce lark]

not like roar is required, it just helps

you can do the same thing with viral priming, or rad shards

roar is honestly mostly there to make the aoe portion do more damage

[trim hill]

New Smite is actually insane in terms of damage, ngl. It doesn't really mesh too well with the "support healer/buffer" archetype that the rest of his kit implies, but it does do a lot of heavy lifting in terms of rounding out the kit

[mighty flare]

roar does heavy lifting to lower the strength/viral/shard slots
wouldn't really do smite nuking without it

[gaunt sapphire]

speaking of things that ACTUALLY arent viable to build for super harshly

what about iron skin

rhinos ability

[late hemlock]

there are some funny ways to make rhino stack armor so you make iron skin give a lot of overguard

[gaunt sapphire]

i know but is that needed

[fathom sky]

No you just abuse the invincibility

Having a high OG off rip isn't relevant.

[gaunt sapphire]

yeah he has a "overguard gate" gross thing right

[fathom sky]

Iron Skin also just makes you invincible when you cast it

[late hemlock]

didnt say its relevant but it is funny

[trim hill]

The enemy damage scaling is always much stronger than the armor scaling, iirc

[gaunt sapphire]

here i found a video on it

https://youtu.be/CVadX2MKIU8?si=C5QvHJS0S3ndQjuN

[late hemlock]

i imagine the big iron skin number build is better than ever now since expertise exists so you can make parasitic armor do stupid things

absolutely a meme build but yeah

[gaunt sapphire]

i scrolled past 5 videos about "gazillion overguard rhino" to get this

[trim hill]

What if we do a Iron Shrapnel build using Truculence 🤔🤔🤔

[gaunt sapphire]

also i forgot that rhino can use nourish + roar

and grendel also is overpowered in that sense

[trim hill]

Overpowered and underfed. Love the meatball

[fierce lark]

did someone say levelcap scaling nuke with roar

and nourish??? xd

[gaunt sapphire]

roar and nourish on rhino yes

[wicked cove]

What can i swap in for arcane hot shot on uriel?

[winged nebula]

send a stahlta build for lvl cap disruption if anyone has it

[fierce lark]

molt augmented/arcane power ramp

assuming your other arcane is concentration

[wicked cove]

it is, thanks!

[fair swan]

May i ask for builds here or some where else?

[fierce lark]

this would be the place to do it

[fair swan]

Ah tyy

Do you have a volt build????

Or harrow
Or sevegoth

[fierce lark]

replace umbral with flow if you aren't running a bunch of blue shards

dont have one for sev

[fair swan]

Tyyyy

Is there anything i can replace agur msg with???

[fierce lark]

for harrow, another duration mod

for volt, another augur mod, or primed flow and swap the aura for brief respite

[fair swan]

Alr ty

I have the aura mod thankfully

[midnight horizon]

friend's riven, needs advice for what to go for

I think both are good but the speed debuff is what's the deciding factor

[hollow lodge]

That's meeee

[midnight horizon]

EYYYYYYYY :D

[hollow lodge]

But yeah the dmg is amazing. The one issue is it would be as slow as a snail for its projectiles

[mighty flare]

you run the usual multishot, crits, bane, and since its multico you run galv aptitude with serration/dmg% arcane
elements can be viral/heat or electric depending on your setup

[late hemlock]

for disruption boss killer you would swap multishot for acuity

[mighty flare]

no?

not anymore at least

[floral sky]

What mod should i put in here

Thinking heated charge but idk

[brittle sentinel]

Any way to see stacks of Zid-An Uskos

[late hemlock]

did some testing with acuity

a single bullet from acuity will do 389k damage (pic 1) with a 60% chance to turn into 576k red crit using critical delay as the second crit mod

a bullet with galv chamber will do 74k with a 20% chance to become 142k, and at full stacks you are shooting 3.3 bullets after fully stacking up galv multishot, so if you multiply it by 3.3 its still less than acuity on avg

i guess the difference is not THAT big but acuity is consistent in giving you more damage

@mighty flare

actually no it is a big difference my brain wasnt braining, acuity is a lot more damage on avg lol

[midnight horizon]

Bc it does, but with a counterpart of it being on weakpoints

And it's added damage ON the weakpoints as well so it has higher damage

[drowsy herald]

Should I get the azothane or syam? I liked the azothane in the circuit

[midnight horizon]

I mean you already have corrosive and heat..... I would suggest crit, but that's me

[midnight horizon]

Syam

If you want to spam Getsuga Tensho in the enemies? Quick heavy attacks? Syam

[drowsy herald]

I wish syam was as huge as the azothane

[midnight horizon]

I need to get materials for Syam too....

[drowsy herald]

Small swords don't have range and the azothane just looks badass

[late hemlock]

im not the one surprised as i said acuity is preferred from the get go

oh i meant to tag now i see

[midnight horizon]

They all have the same range... Even long swords or big swords have only slight big reach that it's not even recognizable

[plain swan]

Anyone got a dual Ichor build to pair with volt?

[midnight horizon]

Anything can pair with volt hahahahahahah

His shock trooper and 3 is so good

[midnight horizon]

Yup yup

[plain swan]

Yeah just lowk dont know where to start cause this my first time build a non heavy attack melee lol

[midnight horizon]

Fair, I've been there

[late hemlock]

Build for influence then hold E and never let go

[plain swan]

Is having no primed reach gonna hurt??

[novel bear]

General light attack is crabsweat
Condition Overload
Range
Attack Speed
Blood Rush
Steel
Weeping Wounds
Electric
Antifaction
Tennokai

[late hemlock]

You can use normal reach and you will be fine

[midnight horizon]

Amen hahahaha

[novel bear]

For dual ichor and volt, take out electric and attack speed

[plain swan]

What evos should i get?

[midnight horizon]

I need build for DUAL toxo fr fr

[novel bear]

Add in heat and galv elementalist

[midnight horizon]

I need build for DUAL toxo, anyone have?

[plain swan]

Oh i dont have weeping wounds

[novel bear]

Probably ronin’s rush, though alchemist’s wrath is fine too with volt
Orokin reach
Absolute valor

[plain swan]

Alr thanks

[midnight horizon]

Guys I need Evo for dual toxo and it's build... Like... Should I go for more atk speed for dual Toxo? Or.... Idk

I'm stuck with this pistols

[clear turret]

do you have incarnon?

[midnight horizon]

Yup, just got it yesterday night

[clear turret]

i saw a crit build that was very good, evolutions give some crit and stability, then use the arcane that gives crit

if i find it again, ill send it to you

tried it out in the simulacrum and it worked beautifully well

[midnight horizon]

Ooo yes please

[clear turret]

i'll try finding it

[fierce lark]

shot, diffusion, crosshair, ppg, ptc, prime convulsion, torrent & gunfight

crosshair is flex for expel or like mag might if you hate aiming

[midnight horizon]

Damn all 3 galvs

Aight

[late hemlock]

Do you even want galv shot? This isnt multico iirc

Ig as a stand in for base damage but idk

[fierce lark]

okay im not necessarily saying this is a flaw in game design but

i really hate that base dmg mod and their galvanized counterpart are different polarity

[late hemlock]

They had to make that polarity have some use

[fierce lark]

because i was gonna say "you could run hornet strike and if you're killing in 1 bullet regardless then it doesn't really matter"

[late hemlock]

Besides cold mod lol

[karmic badger]

Why are the 90% elemental mods different polarities but the 60/60 are the same

[late hemlock]

Still funny to this day that cold is the only standout for no reason

[fierce lark]

anyways galv shot only takes 2 statuses to actually beat hornet in damage if you can stack it and toxo has IPS

[plain swan]

yall what should i change in this volt melee build?

[midnight horizon]

Wdym

[midnight horizon]

Seems good tbh

[plain swan]

main problem for me is survivabilty rn

energys only a problem if theres no enemies lol

[late hemlock]

Not enough speed
Its never enough speed

Time to hit 400% strength baby

[midnight horizon]

Hahaha well subsume his 4 for Wrathful Advance to make him more stronger

[plain swan]

💀

[hollow lodge]

Gonna ask 1 more time since I've been sitting on my phone with warframe open just staring at the riven screen for the past 1 and a half hours. What should I do with this riven, The one dilemma is the projectile speed

[midnight horizon]

Umm not yet

[plain swan]

i plan to

[midnight horizon]

Good

[plain swan]

kullervos still building

[red moat]

Is there a companion or companion mod that heals the Warframe's health?

[midnight horizon]

I use Xoris on Volt to make him powerful

[midnight horizon]

There is... I just forgot the mod

[late hemlock]

No don't do that

Subsume Nokko so it can give speed more SPEED

[red moat]

💔

[midnight horizon]

Huh? Bonnet?

[late hemlock]

Why of course

[fierce lark]

hunter recovery

[midnight horizon]

He is building a pure melee frame though, why a bright bonnet? He is not aiming for speed, he is aiming for a melee frame

[late hemlock]

Im just memeing i thought it was obvious ngl

But its really funny

[red moat]

Peak. Thank you so much

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure speed by itself lets you hit the animation cap

[midnight horizon]

Fck... Ok ya know that was my bad I'm so sorry hahahaha

I'm not used to it hahahah

[fierce lark]

would probably take left and keep rolling

[novel bear]

Negative projectile speed is awful

[hollow lodge]

Thaaanks

[hollow lodge]

True but That damage. (The one issue is higasa's bullets are already so slow.) Thanks for the help picking

[karmic badger]

I thought the higasa what hitscan? Or was it only the laser beam?

[hollow lodge]

Only the laser. Normal bullets are projectiles

Also I'm all out of kuva... Time to rejoin the kuva farming mindset :]

[fierce lark]

projectiles with additive co smile

[karmic badger]

Dump 25 million kuva into a single riven

[midnight horizon]

Imma be doing my assignments, cya

[plain swan]

now that i see it do i even want archon strech here? would equilibrium plus 800 energy be enough?

[novel bear]

Not that much damage, especially when the augment exists

[midnight horizon]

Some people run 300 energy on Volt prime only

[hollow lodge]

I might just do that... gonna go get hermos or something. Make a 50 million kuva farm video of hell

[fierce lark]

if you're a melee build you don't actually do any elec ability dmg so

archon stretch isn't actually doing anything unless you're getting it from a companion

[midnight horizon]

A normal stretch would work

[plain swan]

ah

[fierce lark]

i think archon stretch on volt in general is bait unless you're using capacitance to live

[plain swan]

dont need range in melee volt i think so guess im replacing it

[torpid oar]

anybody got a build for uriel that can kill level cap or anything i ngeneral use?

[midnight horizon]

Uriel can already kill level cap

I'm at pure duration build before and he just melted lvl 9999 enemies

He is that strong and Angry

[torpid oar]

Just need the proper build, should I do this one tho?

What should I put instead of hot shot till I get tho

[midnight horizon]

Normal Intensify would work

[midnight horizon]

Uhh... Hmmm idk, I just use Molt Augmentrf

And still works

[torpid oar]

I have all but augur reach and hot shot might drop augur reach and put equilibrium but gotta find a sub for hot shot

[gaunt sapphire]

what secondaries should i try enervate on

[midnight horizon]

Yeah that works, and sub for hot spot is Molt Augmented

[midnight horizon]

Those who have low crit chance, Kuva Nukor is one example

[fierce lark]

kuva nukor, laetum, coda pox, hildryn & jade exalteds

[late hemlock]

Nukor is obviously top 1 choice

[gaunt sapphire]

ooooo pox

i forgot the coda pox works with ANYTHING

[fierce lark]

low cc high cd explosive weapon that builds corroblast

[torpid oar]

Ok ty

[fierce lark]

pretty ideal enervate weapon

[gaunt sapphire]

the coda pox is very versatile in how you can build it

[fierce lark]

2 mod corroblast even, run elec progen

although mag progen might be better so you can still run all the primed mods

[midnight horizon]

Weird sht came in my mind

Does Mag's Subsume works on Vaubs?

Like....

Ya know....

Building more theme of Vauban manipulating gravity hahahahahahaha

[fierce lark]

🤔

flechettes can hit weakpoints so i do wonder if ragolls allow multiple hits

[midnight horizon]

Ooo good theory

I mean, when they are being pulled, they are surely stunned and ragdolled

So possibly?

[late hemlock]

I mean vortex is literally right there though

[strong roost]

Could I ask for a few good builds? Im getting back into the game n im kinda lost

I have nidus p n syran p with a few others but idk whats good or what to look for

[fierce lark]

syran prime

[lavish flint]

Could someone price check this?

[deep grotto]

LMAO

[midnight horizon]

I know, but like, since the next update, inverting Vaubs will make it hard for the Fletcher to spawn so I'll B relying on Bastille and won't invert vauban

[midnight horizon]

I'm quite young in the game to understand this

And it's just an idea for Vaubs hahahah Pull on Vaubs

[late hemlock]

iirc if you hold them with bastille then pull does nothing?

Been ages since I've seen a mag not to mention played vauban lol

Just a bit counterintuitive to have pull

[south flare]

They seem fun, but I'm not really sure what to do with the Dual Coda pistols... Maybe a crit/status hybrid?

I don't know what would get the most out of the spore mechanic. I only have a Catalyst and the 5 Forma. (It's Impact, I need to grind for a Vice)

[slender ether]

What do we think of this Nikana prim e build?

[fathom sky]

Yeah that's the standard build

[slender ether]

Yay

[midnight horizon]

Hahahahaha fair fair, I'm going back to Omamori instead hahahahah

[late hemlock]

If you want the flechette route id go nourish

Works on the flechette orbs

[noble berry]

Friend of mine told me to post my 'rad'aruk build. it's gotten me through about half of SP so far

[late hemlock]

Can do some big damage with hotshot

[modern vale]

Good evening, one question, what does Galvanized Steel and Galvanized Elemental do? And where did you get them? I'm farming Mr to get Nikana Prime. I have all mods in this build except Condition Overload and these two

[slender ether]

Galvanized mods can be obtained from the arbiters of he is

[late hemlock]

Who is

[modern vale]

Ohhh

[slender ether]

Hexis*
You need to do arbitration.

Galvanized steel increases ur crit chance
Galvanized elementalist increases ur status chance

[slender ether]

Dm me if u want more info

[modern vale]

Oky

[modern vale]

Why Cold and not Viral? Just curious

Got my Nataruk today

[noble berry]

Considering my preferred frame is Lavos (with the valence mod), I can slap viral on there anyway as I play. That + rad confusion means I can speed through nodes as foes fight each other, and the Bulwark arcane allows my damage to still chunk SP foes with perfect shots when I do need to mob.

It's not an 'ideal' build, but i enjoy it

[modern vale]

HMMMMMM that makes sense, thanks.
I'm thinking of using my Taxon and Artax to frequently apply Cold status effects and combining that with Viral on my Nataruk.

[modern vale]

It's okay though. I find it more fun when it matches your playstyle.

[fierce lark]

nataruk is strong enough on its own that semi-coherent modding will allow it to kill everything in base sp, but radiation is the singular worst element you could mod on it

until you get to cavia anyway

and even then pure elec is better

[modern vale]

Yeah I saw that. My gameplay changed a lot after I swapped my Ignis Wraith for Nataruk.

[fierce lark]

also needs to be mentioned bulwark requires very specific frames/setups to do anything

it's great when it works but it has to be built around to varying degrees

[late hemlock]

He's using Lavos so non issue

[hollow dirge]

Anyone have a gara build

[noble berry]

Again, with Lavos being my preferred, I don't worry too much about element as I can guarantee procs with him. I legit enjoy the enemy confusion and it's gotten me out of some tight spots, so Rad's fun in my book. If I'm not using Bulwark, I have Merciless.

[late hemlock]

But yeah radiation isnt really doing anything on a single shot weapon that you want to just deal as much damage as possible with

[fierce lark]

there is no enemy confusion

enemies need to be alive to get status effects

nataruk tends to remove that part of the equation

[steady stirrup]

i am mastery 5 how can i improve this build lmao

[fierce lark]

swap the aura for corrosive projection and acquire more range and duration and strength (ideally in that order)

[steady stirrup]

for sure for sure

[vocal sierra]

What status should I build for to help do the zaramin ten zero quest?

[opal tree]

This alright?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/150312340590428160/1468018521098420386/image.png?ex=69827e49&is=69812cc9&hm=eeefd4d061dd478af1f9ac7181c999af992a19a356628a293faf45096f1b3f12&

[fierce lark]

you don't have the augment i presume?

[opal tree]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

add pshred or vile accel and that's about as good as you can do

[hollow dirge]

Anyone have a gara build

[karmic prism]

newbie here. what would get my atomos incarnon rolling?

[modern vale]

I see. I usually use Caliban with Ortholyts.
So their Void damage helps my Viral even more.
(I don't have the augment yet)

[fierce lark]

target cracker instead of pistol gambit, mod viral+heat and add enervate if you have it

if not remove all the crit mods and add elementalist and more heat

either way viral heat

[karmic prism]

ennervate?

[fierce lark]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Secondary_Enervate

[karmic prism]

i do but its rank 1

[fierce lark]

use a rank 5 cascadia flare then if you have that

[pallid quiver]

whats that

[karmic prism]

i have very few arcanes 😛

should i just put elementalist and more heat

[fierce lark]

probably

viral too

[fluid hare]

i would assume the one on the right, yeah?
(not the image on discord the one in game)

[midnight horizon]

Might try that on my Uriel before I subsume him

[midnight horizon]

Final Fusillade

I regret picking the other and now my ammo is depleting so fast

[fluid hare]

really? thats surprising

[midnight horizon]

Yee

[nocturne spindle]

Good thing you can just switch to the other one

[midnight horizon]

Yup

[vocal sierra]

What status should I build for to help do the zaramin ten zero quest?

[midnight horizon]

Huh?

[vocal sierra]

Like what status should I plan for, corrosive, heat etc

[midnight horizon]

Oh!

Eh do the general uses, Corro and/or Viral

[vocal sierra]

👌

[midnight horizon]

Can't go wrong with those two

[fierce lark]

it's super shit, worse ammo economy can make incarnon charging slower and not doing nearly enough extra damage to be worth it

[midnight horizon]

Daaaaamn calm down wtf HAHAHAGAGAHAH

We know the other one suck

[midnight horizon]

BTW, what uses does the other do?

Like I Don understand why it suck so bad nor why others would use it

Like in my experience it make me deplete my ammo so fast

[nocturne spindle]

You just answered your own question

[fierce lark]

are you asking what uses plentiful mayhem has?

[nocturne spindle]

For torid final fusillade is preferred over plentiful mayhem because plentiful mayhem makes ammo deplete faster and doesn't increase damage that much more than final fusillade does

[fierce lark]

ive never actually used it but what im assuming it does is, say you have 3 multishot, you use 2 extra ammo per shot for a final +120% damage multiplier

which is a lot in theory, but tripling your ammo consumption is uh...bad, especially for incarnons lol