builds-discussion

[coral crest]

Like Dante, Nokko and Cyte

(and Jade)

[idle swan]

I think it’s good to have a fully rounded out frame tho

[glass rampart]

Honestly we haven't tried Nokko yet

And I didn't like Cyte too much

I don't like aiming very much ^^

[idle swan]

When they add augments then they’ll actually change the way the frame plays

[coral crest]

Cyte becomes a geniune horror show once you realize that his resupply is a toxin lash with any status

That undoes ammo nerfs

[glass rampart]

Yes but his only survivability is evade pretty much

[crimson osprey]

i still wish i coulf fit flow on voruna, or streamline

[coral crest]

You don't need the sniper rifle, you just have an infinite ammo explosive zarr

[crimson osprey]

energy at times feel starved but once i get rolling, not too bad

[glass rampart]

You do not need streamline on Voruna she has an infinite energy generator with equilibrium

[crimson osprey]

i dont have that on my build, 2 purples though

[glass rampart]

Works too!

[idle swan]

I know what he means, it’s just qol

[crimson osprey]

well, 2 until i can tauforge em

[cerulean radish]

should i stay with the one on the left or change?

[coral crest]

Equilibrium or two purple shards are usually enough. And impetus is almost "maxed"

So you get extra efficiency

[crimson osprey]

i do not have impetus- energice and augmented currently

[coral crest]

Yeah I'm starting to see why you have energy issues

[glass rampart]

Go with the crit chance one

[coral crest]

Impetus gives efficiency, synth deconstruct gives extra orbs, and your shard setup isn't ready

Voruna is technically one of the frames I would call "the landmowers"

[cerulean radish]

sure? with the other one i have like 4/5 shots

[crimson osprey]

i put deconstruct on now, and ther shards, ill give it another whirl and see how it goes. with adaptation and her 1 i can cast quicker and safer too

[glass rampart]

Impetus and Crepuscular are very good

[hexed lodge]

Left is probably best, do you have the incarnon upgrade?

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/mower-lawn-mower-starting-up-gif-10424584

[crimson osprey]

do any arcanes afect her 4? like arcane fury?

[cerulean radish]

yes gonna level it up

[glass rampart]

I just subsume her 4

[coral crest]

No, it isn't melee

[crimson osprey]

was worth asking lol

[coral crest]

All you have is ability str

[glass rampart]

Her 4 means nothing to me, I have Roar for faction damage

[cerulean radish]

i was trying to get a god roll with the same stats of multyshot but this one apeared

[coral crest]

It has enough damage backed up to kill level cap enemies, so you're fine running it always

[karmic badger]

I think in his case he tried to brute force qorvex with a strength build

[hexed lodge]

Ok then yea, stick to left, you don't get +slash in incarnon irrc
Nvmnd, you do, but it's still not a huge boost

[coral crest]

Oh, that's actually better

Because radiation damage shards are improving beam damage much more than the chain explosions

And you want chain explosions to do the job

[crimson osprey]

i suppose i could toss on arcane battery, another 50 some energy.. or tried and true arcane guardian for survival

[glass rampart]

Energy pads :)

Unless you're always using her 4

[crimson osprey]

lol honestly i think with these changes i wont even need energy pads

[coral crest]

As long as it works

[crimson osprey]

i am usually using her 4, then going ham in melee with currently sun and moon

[cerulean radish]

multy would be even better on incarnon correct?

[coral crest]

Oh that explains it

[crimson osprey]

being shes a wolf i have thoughts of using wold sledge though

wolf sledge*

[coral crest]

If you put your cards right she is not leaving 4 at all

[glass rampart]

I just use 1, then 2, then go ham with the Praedos and keeping her 3 in check

[crimson osprey]

generally, at elast the last few missiosn i rarely leave her 4

[hexed lodge]

That, and you can cover the +dmg with Arcanes (merciless etc)

[crimson osprey]

i play this game weirdly, i like making loadouts for frames, and usually keeping them all separate, my weapons are numerous and varied

[coral crest]

As long as you're having fun that's all that matters

[idle swan]

Use smt like that one coda melee that has like a boxing stance for extra style points

[crimson osprey]

not sure what kind of melee for voruna, despite not using it often... d like to

[crimson osprey]

my baruuk uses that, stupid stupid strong

[vagrant anvil]

Whats a good stat for plinx riven?

[glass rampart]

I have 2350 hours in this game but only MR 21

[crimson osprey]

baruuk is my goat, and favorite frame, followed by Oberon

[glass rampart]

:)

[karmic badger]

I try to pair frames with weapons that match or just their signatures, this has lead to my gauss being relegated to being a fissure runner

[vagrant anvil]

Atlas main here

[coral crest]

Anything above mr21 is dedicated grind tbh

[glass rampart]

Once I left MR 18 2-4 years ago I just didn't bother levelling up MR

[crimson osprey]

lol nice. my Ash-0 paris, kunai, okina(also raphael fashionframe)

[vagrant anvil]

Im doing Mr 30 for riven slots

[crimson osprey]

all 3 are incarnons, which can be cumbersome, paris in particualr

[crimson osprey]

yea, i use theose on baruuk, hes effectiverly immortal before desert wind, and doubly so with thosde

[karmic badger]

My poor gauss is held back by the acceltra doing somewhere between jackshid and fekall in terms of damage for Steel Path

[glass rampart]

Using my Voruna with a Kamen Rider Geats Fashionframe :)

[glass rampart]

The Acceltra is so bad in Steel Path I actively recommend against using it in most cases...

[coral crest]

What's your opinion on her deluxe, the resident Voruna main that isnt a 4channer?

[crimson osprey]

i wanted to use claws initially

kiratinos is for my alien themed nix

[glass rampart]

I'm the resident furry Voruna main and her deluxe isn't that good I'm going to be real

[karmic badger]

But the theming!

[crimson osprey]

so maybe another decent claw weapon?

[coral crest]

Fair enough at least you aren't calling it slop made by jews

[glass rampart]

Ew- I just don't like that it's not a furry anymore

[coral crest]

I think the body shape was a bit of a miss, but it's fresh aesthetics at least

[karmic badger]

Society needs to grow up and accept its own mistakes

[glass rampart]

I could slap on the alt helmet but it kind of defeats the purpose

[coral crest]

I like Garuda Hinsa but people call it ugly, I'm a bug freak it seems

[crimson osprey]

so thematically, what are some neat/fun/GOOD melees for voruna? claws? wolf sledge? idk

[glass rampart]

Because https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412068920772399184/1447132462428983376/Warframe0001.jpg?ex=696f3321&is=696de1a1&hm=c9476eeced49988c7081ea1735c8180fdbf0346041ba514d70a4c32bb42f2389&

(Ignore the cyst)

[glass rampart]

Venka Prime is fun :)

Or stick with the good old Praedos

Corufell is a clunky but funny build

[crimson osprey]

im not sure i have praedos- incarnone tonfaS? i have a few other tonfas, why praedos?

[glass rampart]

Praedos gives you extra parkour velocity

[vagrant anvil]

Still does anyone knows what stats I should roll for plinx riven?

[coral crest]

My big 3 right now are Lavos, Garuda and Xaku

[crimson osprey]

i couldnt get the plinx to ever feel right...

[glass rampart]

Praedos also has a very good incarnon mode

[coral crest]

Wuh, this was meant to be sent a while ago

Thanks discord

[glass rampart]

I just got into using Garuda proper and she's very nice

[vagrant anvil]

Mu current one has
90CC
53CD
1.27x dmg to grineer

[crimson osprey]

Baruuk/Oberon/Ash currently, Dante honroable mention

[glass rampart]

I never got Dante to feel right...

[crimson osprey]

get your overguard, cast your book and birds, then spam his slashies or use weapons he nukes the map

[glass rampart]

Huh...

[coral crest]

Yeah he is a very decent nuke frame

[crimson osprey]

double cast for your overguard, then cast birds and books, and then cast his slash ability to nuke the map ?

[coral crest]

But you gotta learn how

[glass rampart]

I guess I just never was interested in him

[crimson osprey]

he def needs the tauforged yellow to speed his shit up

[glass rampart]

I usually am attracted to frames based on their visual look

[coral crest]

I don't like him because I really don't like his design

[crimson osprey]

and.. for some weird reason he feels clunky using weapons beyond his noctua.. not that you need weapons

thats fair, i made mine into a brown owl

[glass rampart]

(it's why I wanted so badly to use Ivara because her Skathi skin looks very good but she's just so.... Mid...)

[coral crest]

I usually also add how their gameplay reflects the character

General "direction" a frame has

With visuals, abilites and how they all result in forming an image

[glass rampart]

That's fair!

[crimson osprey]

i like summons generally, uriel doesnt do it for me, caliban is fun though. couldnever get goddamn atlas to feel right for me. the birds and book feel good

[glass rampart]

I've been loving Uriel personally!

Always attracted to weapon platforms more

[coral crest]

Like Lavos being an alchemist and how his gameplay design reflects it. He doesn't have energy, he doesn't work with his own inner powers. He commands the elements with outside tools that don't even respect his own potential energy pool.

[karmic badger]

I tried making my dante santa

[crimson osprey]

he looks fun! i leveld him to 30 and shleved, idk why

[coral crest]

And he bends those powers to his will regardless

[glass rampart]

Lavos had great promise and I tried him and for some reason his damage did not deliver...

[coral crest]

Also his story is neat

[karmic badger]

Lavos is an excellent weapons platform

[glass rampart]

And I couldn't get him to survive

[coral crest]

He's extremely demanding if you play him in the intended way

[glass rampart]

I tried to play him as a caster that's why

[coral crest]

But most disable their mind and play him as a boring valence formation platform

But I like the caster lavos. It's how his image is build and how his kit is designed

That's who Lavos "the idea" is

But yeah if you just want him as an empty fashion husk you can always use valence formation

[glass rampart]

I just do not jive with him

His abilities are meant to be a caster frame with cooldown cycles

[coral crest]

It's kind of funny. They obviously designed a health tank frame but because he's an active caster unlike any other health tank, they gutted his ways to survive and limited it to only having a proactive healing tool and cc

[glass rampart]

Playing him as a Valence formation platform feels wrong

[coral crest]

Yeah, I completely agree

His best ways to survive is to use passive shield gating or Persistence

Or just run triumbral for anything that isn't endurance

[glass rampart]

I slapped on some armour and Arcane Persistence haha

[coral crest]

I hope you didn't put blind rage on him

Because that's usually where all the caster disappointment comes from

[glass rampart]

Um-

[coral crest]

Yeah negative efficiency hurts him a lot

A lot more than any other frame

[glass rampart]

All the builds I see run it...

Except triumbral

[coral crest]

He can nuke enemies with just overextended and precious intensify

[crimson osprey]

Alrighty, ill be back

[coral crest]

His 4 scales extremely good

You really don't need blind rage on him

[glass rampart]

I'm also running out of credits to keep levelling my mods ^^;

[coral crest]

Lavos is special because he was a raging brute who has shown his capacity to change

[gaunt minnow]

I decided to put roar on ember

[glass rampart]

Could put positive efficiency for more cooldown then

[coral crest]

That's why putting blind rage on him is not only detrimental for the build, but is also wrong for the character

[glass rampart]

Honestly how do you scale his 4

[coral crest]

It doubles the damage per unique status

[glass rampart]

Cedo. Got it

[coral crest]

You'll be doing millions upon millions with just precision intensify and negative str

Power doesn't come from him, it comes from the elements

Building Lavos is just as much of a gameplay puzzle as much it is a philosophical puzzle on his character

And what he has done to get where he is

[glass rampart]

[coral crest]

And playing to his newfound strengths

[glass rampart]

Oh speaking of which

I got this mod for the felarx

[coral crest]

Congrats

[glass rampart]

The esteemed negative crit roll

[coral crest]

But yeah he isn't for everyone

[glass rampart]

Unfortunate...

Looks like I'm sticking with my Thermal Transfer Gauss

[coral crest]

Still in my opinion the most well designed frame

In ways of combining the concept, the gameplay, and overall presentation

[glass rampart]

Are you secretly The Kengineer?

[coral crest]

Idk Kengineer just does math and reads off wiki

Practical problems aren't really being solved

[old marsh]

Low dispo

[coral crest]

It's still negative crit

Devouring attrition and whatever

[old marsh]

Ye

[coral crest]

I was actually working on my own comprehensive Lavos guide

A Lavos Bible if you may call it that

But my life has other plans for now

Touching on more practical use of his kit, his design intent and how to use it to determine what you can get out of him

And philosophical ramblings about how to build him ofc

[glass rampart]

I live for low dispo rivens that do multiple things in place of one mod

[coral crest]

But not giving any builds to copy

[plain drum]

chat how does tenet plinx compare to dual torxica for single target?

[coral crest]

[old marsh]

As long as u know what stats u need

[mortal gyro]

guys please suggest as to what should i change from my ocucor build??? it isnt doing much damage in sp!

[plain drum]

swap elements to viral and run heat or electricity

and run another arcane

[mortal gyro]

how do i do that please??

[plain drum]

just change your mods??

cold + toxin and then heat/electricty mod

[glass rampart]

Is magnetic generally worse than pure electric in viral builds?

[plain drum]

theres already mods that can give you magnetic no need to build magnetic

e.g magnetic capacity, magnetic strafe, magnetic might

[glass rampart]

No I mean use magnetic capacity instead of the electric 60-60

[plain drum]

why not both

what gun are you modding anyway

[glass rampart]

Just a general all round build for an automatic rifle

(trumna)

Orjust.. any crit based rifle

[plain drum]

not all crit based rifles are the same

some have aoe and that removes galv shot from the modding

[glass rampart]

That isn't aoe

[plain drum]

trumna is

[glass rampart]

(not the Trumna)

[latent latch]

Is this riven mod for hate good?

[glass rampart]

Something like uh... Soma

[alpine creek]

What’s her build ?

[glass rampart]

Duration

[fathom sky]

None of those stats are useful and -combo duration is a pretty bad negative if you wanted to use a light attack build since combo builds up Blood Rush and Weeping Wounds

[glass rampart]

And some strength

[plain drum]

incarnon?

[glass rampart]

Yes

[old marsh]

generally u want crit dmg but this is serviceable

[plain drum]

incarnon is bugged to where galvanized aptitude doesnt work with it

[glass rampart]

God.... Damnit...

[plain drum]

just run serration over it

[glass rampart]

I'm also ofc talking more for the elements than the general build

Usually I go viral-magnetic and that does the job

Unless you're a bow at which point hunter munitions

[plain drum]

usually its galv chamber, galv aptitude/serration (dependant on damage calculation), fire rate, critical delay, vital sense, viral/corrosive, (electric/heat)/cold, magnetic mod/galvanized scope/rifle elementalist

[latent latch]

So I should change the stats

[plain drum]

you can slot in an augment over magnetic mod/galv scope or crit delay since most rifle augments give crit (e.g hema, soma prime)

[glass rampart]

Ok what about blast builds

[plain drum]

blast rifles??

thats for beam weapons

torid or smth

[glass rampart]

Tenet Glaxion yeah

[alpine creek]

Full duration ? No str?

[glass rampart]

I said some strength

For razorwing blitz

[plain drum]

then its pretty much the same as the one i just mentioned except you make corrosive blast or just run nourish with blast

[alpine creek]

Sorry didn’t see that what about efficiency

[plain drum]

i'd use corrosive cold glaxion with primary frostbite and like photon overcharge though

[glass rampart]

Razorwing drain is based on duration

[alpine creek]

Oh ok

[plain drum]

ith magnetic progenitor

[glass rampart]

I don't think I have the augment 😭

[plain drum]

then just run viral electric/heat

its just the same gameplay as nukor

without secondary enervate

[glass rampart]

Honestly just go base strength and use precision intensify

[alpine creek]

No need of range ?

[plain drum]

not really

[glass rampart]

Unless you're going for a thermal sunder low star chart relic speedrun build not really

[plain drum]

you can run neutral range to help hitting her 2 easier but its better to run negative range

for non sunder builds like mentioned

[alpine creek]

This good enough ?

[mighty widget]

Which would be better?

[glass rampart]

I run sunder for thermal transfer

[glass rampart]

Why TF is blind rage..

[plain drum]

take off blind rage and replace with smth eklse

[glass rampart]

Don't use blind rage you want base efficiency

Base strength with precision intensify is enough

[plain drum]

just run double shield recharge mods

[abstract bison]

i read on the wiki comments that Spring-Loaded Broadhead is the same multiplier as the bane mods, is this true?

[glass rampart]

(me running adaptation + Aviator)

Also keep in mind most of your investmen will go to the Dex pixia

[alpine creek]

Ok are the arcane stood ?

[glass rampart]

Honestly if you have arcane concentration it's better

Arcane velocity is good tho I think

[plain drum]

for now yeah it is, until you get razorwing blitz (her augment) you can change arcane velocity for something else (arcane concentration, arcane pistoleer, arcane impetus, etc)

[glass rampart]

Oh and probably also want preparation

[alpine creek]

I am pretty broke

[plain drum]

its fine arcane concentration is easy to get, go to navigation, press f instead of x and play descendia

and then buy from roathe in sanctum anaotmica

[glass rampart]

Missed the treasure room last week

[plain drum]

you can also buy arcane persistence for your health tanks (nidus, inaros, grendel, lavos, kullervo, etc

treasure room ist his week no?

[glass rampart]

Nope

Last week

[plain drum]

holy shit its new rotation

reards kinda mid outside of melee adapter

[glass rampart]

Better than last week

Need the amber shard

[plain drum]

last week had affinity booster iirc

[glass rampart]

Oh true

[unique pebble]

guys can anywone give me maxout build for sayrin prime + kuva sobek please

[plain drum]

https://overframe.gg/build/668084/kuva-sobek/saryn-oraxia-arsenal-acid-shells-nuke-kuva-sobek/
https://overframe.gg/build/226696/

[unique pebble]

but its not old thee sobek build ?

[plain drum]

thats a sobek build tailored towards saryn

[unique pebble]

ohhh ok

but my problem my sobek is toxic

[plain drum]

just get a magnetic progenitor sobek and then do valence fusion

or if ur sobek is max level use elemental vice

you can get one from eleanor in hollvania

[glass rampart]

I like how it's just accepted now that the only way to use overframe is to use Ninjase's builds

[alpine creek]

I use a tab

[plain drum]

you can make specifically tailored builds for your guns but ninjase just makes it easier

i usually use his builds for refference

[velvet pulsar]

Overframe finally has a better competition now atleast

[alpine creek]

Btw what about her weapon ?

[sullen vessel]

Do you by any chance have access to Arbitrations yet?

[alpine creek]

Nope

[alpine creek]

I actually don’t know what those are

[sullen vessel]

Ah so you don’t have it yet that’s fine you’ll unlock it later.
For right now I do recommend using Frostibite, Pistol Pestilence, and Scorch so that you can apply your Viral and Heat status effects more which would lead to greater dps.

Maxing out your mods like pistol gambit would be good as well to get your crit chance up and you can probably forgo Gunslinger since activating arcane velocity would give you a lot of fire rate already so it’d be better to replace it with Lethal Torrent.

Barrel diffusion is something I would also recommend putting on if you have it.

[nova swift]

yea dex pixia have nice status chance and infinite ammo. So going for status, multishot and firerate is not a bad idea

[latent latch]

What stats should I look for in hate riven?

[bold talon]

I don't have any endo right now, are these builds good?

[sullen vessel]

Crit damage and maybe crit chance unless you’re already using Wrathful Advance subsumed into your Warframe.

[astral tinsel]

Just skip crit

Not worth it without enervate imo

[plain drum]

run secondary enervate

[latent latch]

So I have only to look for crit damage

[sullen vessel]

Well there’s other stuff but that is one of the primary stats to look for. Obviously for example you’re not gonna go get a Riven with like +100% crit damage and then like 0.38x faction damage multipliers against 3 factions.

[astral tinsel]

Unless you hate influence, I'd say go influence

Rank 3 primary acuity is absolutely, 100% not worth it

[bold talon]

yeah im broke as hell

[astral tinsel]

Too broke for regular split chamber?

[drowsy herald]

what is a good weapon for the sentient fight in the perita rebellion? it took me and my girlfriend over half an hour to bring that big sentient down

[astral tinsel]

Hunhullus or dactolyst?

[drowsy herald]

dactolyst

hunulus is a huge statue thing

[astral tinsel]

That's also a sentient, just large

What's your MR?

[latent latch]

Okay I think I understand it now

[crimson osprey]

Kronen prime any good? or Telos Boltace im on overframe which has dubious rankings, best build was 3 years ago

[drowsy herald]

mr 18

[astral tinsel]

Just whatever busted incarnon you can get your hands on then

Laetum is evergreen

Burston makes short work of the bosses, but idk what's on rotation this week

[crimson osprey]

bo latron furis furax strun

[deep grotto]

Yuh

[drowsy herald]

i have laetum but i cant get its incarnon to charge because madurai gives it so much firerate it doesnt even aim properly

[crimson osprey]

So kronon prime feels like a relix of years ago, nothing special. telos bolace vcuums and lifts enemies

[deep grotto]

It does?

[queen parcel]

how would i build the destreza?

tried going for crit and melee doughty but for some reason it just doesn't do enough damage, barely getting by it feels like even with wisp

[near vortex]

what's the build on the Doughty setup?

I don't know what the weighting on Destreza is

[queen parcel]

uh

i had melee prowess, P fever strike, jugulus barbs, organ shatter and voltaic strike

and ofc, attack speed, damage and sac steel

[crimson osprey]

So voruna, telos boltace or kronen prime?

[fathom sky]

Kronen's just straight up better and you'd probably go Melee Influence slop anyway.

[crimson osprey]

im still figuring it out

[crimson osprey]

lol i figured it would be an influence thing too

[fathom sky]

Prisma Ohma would be best out of the tonfas for that

[crimson osprey]

any other ideas thematically wise for a melee? hammers jsut feel clunky

[crimson osprey]

those are on my volt stupid fun time

[fathom sky]

They probably gave her a heavy blade because its stances can get some decent headshots

[crimson osprey]

i have a nice zaw, galatin, gram you name it

[fathom sky]

I mean outside of the obvious claws or sparring pick I wouldn't know what else really fits her design wise. I'd just mull through my equipment until I find something with a skin that's cool

[crimson osprey]

i dont have the venka gauntlets, are there any decent claws in game beyond those? keratinos were underwhelming

[astral tinsel]

even with the -recoil evo?

but it shouldn't take more than a couple shots to charge anyway

[fathom sky]

There's barely any claws period and Ripkas aren't good so...

[crimson osprey]

yeaaa my thoughts

but ya never know, maybe im missing some unnamed rarely used thinf

[coral crest]

No claw incarnons either

[crimson osprey]

hm

maybe ill stick with tonfas. shame telos has a more interesting unique ability than kronen rime

[celest thicket]

I wish someone to recommend a secondary, i want something that does alot of damage per shot, that is atleast decent on SP , dont care if its single target only, i just want a pistol that does big damage per shot

(Already have the lex incarnon)

[severe bough]

Voruna and harmony or corufell is great ngl

[crimson osprey]

Does harmonies unique ability work off of her 2?

[sage umbra]

Hi, does anyone know if the operator arcane, Magus Accelerant would work well with Ember?

[crimson osprey]

whats it do?

[fierce lark]

it's definitely something you can slot if you need more damage

[sage umbra]

Void Sling 100% Reduce Enemy Resistance to Heat Damage by 12% / 25% / 37% / 50% / 60% / 65%.

[crimson osprey]

sounds liek it would

[fierce lark]

i pretty much permanently have mague elevate & emergence savior slotted, but accelerant is an option if you need more damage, especially paired with magus cloud

[sage umbra]

Thank you, good to know ^^

[vestal lintel]

anything here y'all would change? Id want better fire rate or reload but dont think its worth swapping anything, ill be getting more forma soon to put on Cautious Shot (Incarnon)

But god cautious shot being 30k endo to max is crazy. I could spend that on blind range and sell it for 70 plat

[near vortex]

Crux?

Can't you do Merciless and run fire rate

[coral crest]

Lex(inc), Catchmoon, Tombfinger, Coda Tysis, Tenet Spirex, Vasto(inc)

They're the big punchy single target pistols

[near vortex]

Tenet Plinx

[vestal lintel]

Only primary arcane i have sadly

[crimson osprey]

Hey is the Zylock or vasto prime any good? i really liek the zylocks look, but idk if its worth investing into

disclaimer, i have cycron and everything so its really flavor and fun, not that its needed

[coral crest]

They have an incarnon, that makes them decent at the very least

[ripe dove]

What warframes are best with primary weapons?

[crimson osprey]

vasto and zylock ?

[coral crest]

Yeah

[crimson osprey]

i think i may use the Zylock, it called to me lol

[icy seal]

Has someone interesting idea? How Nidus prime can break down enemies with his own skills? Not only gun-platform or immortality. Maybe some funny synergy with helminth ability...

[glass cloak]

Is this build good (sorry for quality)

[honest anchor]

change anything?

[frigid crater]

Could hotshot R1 be worth it?

Because its still 100% extra CC

[gaunt sapphire]

is the “auto install” modding button literally ever worth looking at?

[severe bough]

Should def

[sharp kettle]

Ok hear me out but a trading station specifically for archon/tau forged shards

[severe bough]

Thought about it aswell

Trading but only with archon shards

Tau can only be traded with tau
Normal with normal

[frigid crater]

" WTB Tauforged red shard 10pl each "
" Wts tauforged purple shard 150 each "

[severe bough]

That would crash everything lmao

[frigid crater]

Not only crash but tbh everything would be much easier

[severe bough]

They should just enable archon shard trading but only with shards only

[frigid crater]

Why use equilibrium when you can buy 2 tauforged purple shards for 15 plat each?

[frigid crater]

Huh, no plat?

Good idea tbh

[sharp kettle]

Would make it easier for my baby tenno to get what they want from me as well

[severe bough]

Equilibrium is much higher value on frames that have any ability to compansate easier i always go with purpels

Unless u dont have any ability that does speak for that eg uriel, voruna , protea

[severe bough]

The best idea probably i got 30 blues

[sharp kettle]

It would look like the lich trading room but cavia themed

[severe bough]

Mabye we get some info on that this dev stream which i dont think but we will this friday

[sharp kettle]

Perfect for a Dante protoframe to just be chillin in there

[umbral bison]

How did i get 2 Uriel?

[sharp kettle]

Better yet Dante and Limbo protoframe

[delicate briar]

is it good so far?

[coral plank]

Got me a new funny build idea; Uriel with a Shade
The Invisible Nuke Uriel
In which the unseeable hands of the devil burns as hot as the sun

[delicate briar]

very evil my friend

i like it

[prime lava]

only works with caster uriel unfortunately

[coral plank]

Yeah, which makes Brimstone charge aster as what I can tell

[prime lava]

no let me rephrase that
you only have your 3 to deal consistent damage
and if you remember how 3 works, you would know its not consistent is it

[coral crest]

his kit inherently supports a hybrid playstyle yeah

no real self reliance between abilities in terms of killing power

[coral plank]

Am I allowed to send a vid here?

[prime lava]

yea his kit is built around cycling between abilities and weapons, nothing does consistent damage besides ult

[coral crest]

well perms are here

[prime lava]

yea sure go ahead

[coral crest]

you can

[marsh dagger]

should I put primed heavy trauma on my atlas landslide fists?

right now i filled it with

gas, blood rush, sacrifical steel, galv elementalist, primed pressure, shock (influence) , glad might

[prime lava]

gas?
i thought those fists were crit weapons

[coral plank]

Here's me trying it out, it was fun

[marsh dagger]

i went for gas just for more overrall damage, i hit red crits with steel, blood rush and glad might

@prime lava or should i just go electric and crit?

[loud knot]

People been telling me torid on zephyr is good but the damage numbers are ass. Wtf am I doing wrong? How do I build this damn thing?

[prime lava]

ooo steel path huh

[prime lava]

its a crit beam, no?

[prime lava]

try it out

since it doesn impact damage, try shattering impact once

[loud knot]

@prime lava no it shoots like gas aoe everywhere

[sullen vessel]

Incarnon

[loud knot]

@sullen vessel oooooh! Gotcha!

[coral plank]

Yeah, mess around over there, havent actually finished all the nodes

[prime lava]

alr alr if its fun and usable

[coral plank]

Gotta make a meme about an unsuspecting Acolyte thinking it would be an easy tenno, as a devious invisible Uriel is right behind them with Brimstone ready

[glass rampart]

hey so i really like yareli on a secondary focused build but aquablades just kinda suck

what can I helminth it with

also im about to use akarius prime, are viral-blast builds good on that

[frigid crater]

Caliban ability

Because its a damage vulnerability
That scales with sea snares

so double the damage vulnerability

[glass rampart]

Hmm... True

I was also thinking Xatas Whisper tbf

[fierce lark]

if you're intending on using akarius prime (and especially if you're gonna use merulina guardian), do energized munitions and run arcane pistoleer

otherwise you will probably run out of ammo

[glass rampart]

Dhdhhdj

I'm using loyal merulina

[fierce lark]

pistoleer + ammo mutation might be enough then? akarius really struggles with ammo management

EM kinda just sounds like the appropriate way to enjoy your PaP pistols though

[glass rampart]

I was planning to use ammo mutation

Don't think I have pistoleer though...

[fierce lark]

if you didn't buy it or do a ton of arbitrations then probably not

[versed jasper]

Ight I've gotten different answers every time I ask so ima ask again lol, what's the best companion weapon if I want it to prime large amounts of enemies constantly

[pure kiln]

is this an okay setup for latron incarnon? been running this with roar saryn and it's been treating me very well

[glass rampart]

I did arbitrations for the galvanised mods then promptly did not do them anymore

[glass rampart]

Diriga's

[fierce lark]

tazicor

[glass rampart]

Yes that

[fierce lark]

diriga gets the vulklok

tazicor you have to get from fortuna

if you are using diriga with the arc coil precept instead of assault mod, you should use a burst laser (ideally prime)

[glass rampart]

Oh I've just seen people use the tazicor with the diriga so much I just kinda associate them now

[fierce lark]

using diriga and tazicor together is kinda pointless

[hollow scarab]

hey would inaros's blind with the cat summon with ash's 4 be good for steel path or is savage silence 4 combo ash better

[versed jasper]

I'm using burst laser prime

Like what is the best companion plus weapon for what im tryna go for

[fierce lark]

tazicor is an electric chain beam

diriga's attacking precept is an electric chain beam (i think it chains)

using them together is redundant

you want to use burst laser or something similar, because manifold bond will cause diriga's arc coil to apply ALL of the weapon's built elements (so each cast is its own electricity + IPS/viral/heat/magnetic/radiation), giving it 8 statuses on every cast

tazicor is for priming companions that aren't diriga that are using assault mode, so they can spread viral/elec/rad/mag with an aoe chain beam

there's a few weapons that work i think, but burst laser is the choice since it can easily hit 50% crit chance for tenacious bond, and it can equip augur mods

[versed jasper]

So using diriga with arc coil precept and burst laser prime is best?

[fierce lark]

diriga is probably the best overall primer, especially if you don't care about the attack speed from reinforced bond

which also makes it the defacto best melee primer

[versed jasper]

Sound, ty

[fierce lark]

if you want the fire rate buff on a companion primer, you need to run nautilus/wyrm prime with diriga, or a moa

and you lose the +1.2x crit damage from tenacious

[wet shard]

Can Nautilus get the shield requirements for tenacious or is it still just wyrm p?

[fierce lark]

naut p and wyrm p

[wet shard]

Ooh might build Nautilus rather than having him collect dust, been using Wyrm for extra shieldgating

[fierce lark]

i usually just run panzer for rbond, but if i feel like throwing on a sentinel for some reason it's naut

[median heron]

Needs double tap

[median heron]

Keep in mind it is only 10m range

[versed jasper]

That's not that for since I'm using exodua contagion for dmg

[timid dust]

Nekros build for resource farm (possibly arena endo farm too) for sp?

[pure kiln]

what do i replace?

[late hemlock]

are there any mods i can replace to get even higher status?

[fierce lark]

arcanes are circumvent & molt aug

[timid dust]

ty again

[deep grotto]

i'd like to introduce you to the surging blades augment's synergy with kompressa bubbles

[fierce lark]

melee careen on the melee, find a small-ish hallway and roll - 4 - shoot - repeat

[fierce lark]

(in case you couldn't tell with ore gaze and precision, petrify is subsumed over 4)

[median heron]

Either hammershot or bane since you have roar

[kindred sierra]

Does anyone know if Saxum Thorum's passive (lifted enemies explode on death) applies to enemies only lifted by the melee weapon it is on or any ability?

[fierce lark]

any source of lifted, Saxum is a mod set that isn't specific to melees

that was horrid

forewarning, i believe that the % max hp does not including the hp gained from steel path and archimedea modifiers

so it'll be very underwhelming outside of base chart level stuff

[kindred sierra]

It doesn't, that isnt much of an issue. I am reworking the Praedos to be a full utility item. Any amount of additional functionality is the goal as I wont be using it to kill things

[late hemlock]

probably not if its like acid shells

[late hemlock]

pinging this incase someone has ideas

[kindred sierra]

Careen + slam + healing return is what I am doing now. Nezha/zypher lift enemies and I am running a Primary Debilitate Strun Incarnon and 1 slam seems to be healing to full.

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[kindred sierra]

Will add Saxum to the Praedos as it will scale with acid shells on tornado and on pyrotechnics nezha well regardless of mid initial damage thanks!

[frigid crater]

I have a very strange question

Do abilities that give heat to your weapons counts towards hot shot procs?

[fierce lark]

no

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[late hemlock]

iirc even sentinel abilities count towards hot shot

[fierce lark]

sentinel abilities that deal heat procs or take manifold heat from their weapon do, yeah

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a good weapons platform dagath?

[old marsh]

It’s gotta cone from abilities including exalteds

[frigid crater]

So you're telling me that therminal transfer doesn't work towards hot shot

[hollow scarab]

for sp

[fierce lark]

the ability itself has to deal heat procs, so heat imbues and infusions will not work

[fierce lark]

correct

[frigid crater]

But the area created from thermal blablabla works?

[fierce lark]

also correct

if thermal sunder deals damage with a heat status, you will gain hotshot

[late hemlock]

worst case just use something like a diriga with heat and you will auto max hot shot

[frigid crater]

Hmmmm

Hotshot goes from 50 to 0 right

[fierce lark]

yep

[frigid crater]

I would use thermal transfer on gauss for the bonus WP potential but ehhhhh

I dont wanna be stuck using diriga or a niche cat/dog build

[fierce lark]

my weapons gauss has thermal transfer with negative range and xata's over 2

[frigid crater]

Oh yeah i mean with hotshot together

But then you'd have to create a separate area with heat

And the build uses negative range and that's mehhhhh

[queen parcel]

how do i build the destreza? feels like it's always just a little too weak

[fierce lark]

im fine not using hotshot if it means i get to slot narrow minded

[fierce lark]

getting 60+ seconds of fire & forget redline is neat

[frigid crater]

Fair

[fierce lark]

plus it gives me an excuse to use the felarx

because gauss is the only frame im willing to tolerate the horrendous uptime on it

[frigid crater]

Only reason i didn't build my felarx is

8 forma

[fierce lark]

at least 2 of those are optional for the exilus

[foggy patrol]

Brimstone

[frigid crater]

6 forma

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-soyjack-coal-gem-gemrald-gif-17574888718674510383

[fierce lark]

5-6 forma for a gun is pretty normal

[frigid crater]

Idk i prefer 3-4

6-7 is a little too much

[fierce lark]

you can also save a forma using toxic barrage instead of contagious spread

[frigid crater]

True

A shame its forma hungry all for mid

[fierce lark]

and you can use blaze instead of primed point blank

which honestly might be an upgrade

[atomic talon]

what frames benefit from blue gems

[fierce lark]

all of them, technically

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/dispatch-punch-up-fight-gif-6391868211775016487

[fierce lark]

you can always use some amount of energy max shards instead of primed flow

[late hemlock]

With arcane persistence it can help a bunch of them reach the breakpoint to activate it so actually got much better

[frigid crater]

UGHHHHH
WHY DOES HE ALWAYS KEEPS GOING FOR THE 6-7777777

[modest vine]

meanwhile me with my 11 forma Fulmin

[fierce lark]

and armor shards can enable builds/playstyles

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-10296567519423629847

[atomic talon]

my inaros is already at 746 armor without scarab armor

[modest vine]

oh lol

[frigid crater]

I dont know why i dont like armor

[foggy patrol]

I want to put coupe into a coop

[frigid crater]

Always was a DR type of guy

Must be the reason why i like yareli and nova

[late hemlock]

Armor is DR lol

[foggy patrol]

Then what is DR

[modest vine]

i hate to ask the question what does DR even stand for?

[late hemlock]

Good question

[late hemlock]

Damage reduction

[frigid crater]

I mean it in a " has DR in its kit " rather than " need to mod for it "

[atomic talon]

damage resistence/reduction

[fierce lark]

i have a few frames that i didn't wanna invest heavily into so i just threw 5 blue energy shards on them

[foggy patrol]

Damage reduction 0.X

[modest vine]

ok thanks

[late hemlock]

I mean arent you modding the kit? Same thing

Best part is that it stacks anyways

[foggy patrol]

Works in a shit way though not worth it

[frigid crater]

Kind of? But trying to add armor + DR is not very useful, and usually with DR frames you're not modding to benefit the DR itself

[foggy patrol]

Only inaros and nidus maybe new valk idk haven't tried it yet

[frigid crater]

Like, you dont mod nova to make her neuron star have more DR, because its already capped at 90%

[late hemlock]

There are a bunch of way to get flat armor now so its very viable and persistence alone means armor became incredibly strong if you have 700

[frigid crater]

Yeah but im a lazy guy with no archon shards so its brief respit + augur mods or base kit dr for me

Or other methods of survival (invis, CC etc)

[late hemlock]

CC in the big 26

[fierce lark]

actually

i took a freshly crafted frost prime into a cascade fissure

cc is very much a real survivability tool

[frigid crater]

If you're not Loki CC is still good lol

And If you dont care about VC

[late hemlock]

Cc is fine but only in conjuction with a real survivability tool because plenty of things ignore cc

[fierce lark]

it's pretty hard to die if you can press avalanch and fully freeze everything in a 30m radius

even overguarded units get several stacks of cold and the associated slowing effect

[frigid crater]

Or you can just press 1 button and now suddendly the entire room is your friend list

I love you Xaku im sorry for slandering you so much...

[fierce lark]

that requires being toggled onto accuse instead of deny

where i can press 4 3 and nuke everything in a 100m radius

[frigid crater]

Your deny does dmg????

I never use that thing, it sucks

[fierce lark]

it requires some setup but yeah it can get to chunky numbers

[frigid crater]

Another xaku build potential what a surprise...

[fierce lark]

it has a base dmg of 4k, scales with strength, scales with the amount of guns you have up on 2 (16x at max range), you can put roar over 1 to buff it further, prime with viral from a gun, and then xaku applies a 50% dmg vulnerability with 4 which can be applied a 2nd time using the augment

you can make it do some pretty ridiculous damage

[frigid crater]

Now that you say it like that the setup doesn't seems so difficult

But idk i really hate getting xata's whisper out of
You know
XAKU

That's why Mine doesn't have a helminth ability

[late hemlock]

Meanwhile I subsumed xaku instantly I don't think i ever even saw his 4th

[frigid crater]

It makes It a little bit more hard to use my fav augment on him & you dont benefit so much from his 4 void DV

[frigid crater]

They're super fun

[late hemlock]

Gotta build the prime at some point

[frigid crater]

16 guns
Super Nice survivability
& Cheap builds

[coral crest]

Shocking: Cascade player tests something in practice

[fierce lark]

idk what that means but real

[coral crest]

I see so many people argue about shit when they don't even try it

Only saying things on paper

[fierce lark]

lmao oh

im ngl i would've probably done the same thing before having just taken frost into a fissure to level up to 30

[frigid crater]

I remember that with valkyr before her rework

[coral crest]

Especially about "cc is bad because overguard"

[frigid crater]

When everyone was like " dude she's gonna suck so much on void cascade- "

Boom
2nd strongest melee frame in the game

[fierce lark]

but yeah, as it turns out, if you have enough cc (as frost does) frozen enemies are very good at not shooting you

[frigid crater]

• CD bonus

[coral crest]

Vauban, Frost, Vial Rush(Lavos)

[fierce lark]

the CD bonus is dogshit we don't care about that

[frigid crater]

Heresy.

[fierce lark]

it's less than tenacious bond lmao

[coral crest]

You can use both at least

[fierce lark]

final +1x is very mediocre especially if your gun already has good crit damage

[frigid crater]

That's already 2x your CD

[fierce lark]

wut

[frigid crater]

Wait am i an idiot -

[fierce lark]

no you're misunderstanding i think

[frigid crater]

When someone says " 1x multiplier " the math is like

[coral crest]

What if my CD is x12

[frigid crater]

" X dmg " . 1 = " X dmg " + " x dmg "

[fierce lark]

it's a final +1x to your crit damage, kinda like how tenacious bond is a final +1.2x and arcane crepuscular is a final +3x

[coral crest]

Yeah if cold was multi then

Maybe it would've been something

[frigid crater]

So your weapon CD goes from 1 to 2

[fierce lark]

or from 5.2 to 6.2

[frigid crater]

Isnt that still Double the crit dmg you'd be doing normally or that only counts if your weapon only has 1x cd

[fierce lark]

if your weapon had 1x cd, it wouldn't be doing any extra damage on crits

if you had exactly 100% crit chance, and you added 10 cold to get 2x cd, you'd be doubling your damage

[coral crest]

It just turns x5 damage into x6

That's not exactly a lot in reality of properly modded weapons

[fierce lark]

if you have 5x crit damage already and guaranteed crits, adding 1x crit damage would only give you an extra 20% damage

[coral crest]

^

[frigid crater]

But If i had 3x CD id be only adding +25% CD

OHHHHHHHHHHH MATH IS MATHING

[coral crest]

Yep

[fierce lark]

everything is relative

[coral crest]

Especially my sleep schedule

[fierce lark]

thats why smart people try to emphasize the importance of stacking different sources of damage when you're modding out weapons

[frigid crater]

Arcane crepuscular is still goated

[coral crest]

More like arcane crepooscular

[fierce lark]

3x crit damage is like

a pretty big number

[frigid crater]

Non invis frame player be like

[coral crest]

[frigid crater]

And
Goes really well with other numbers

[coral crest]

Invis hides my fashion from others

[frigid crater]

Just create a stinky aura around your body

[coral crest]

I want to show off

And dps pissing contest isn't fashionable unless your pet did it

[fierce lark]

i will say one thing

as much as i dog on the cold status for being dogwater

being able to apply 10 stacks of it instantly as frost is not bad, even if you have high crit damage

gaining a free 20-30% more damage is something

[coral crest]

Yeah it's all about availability in the end

[late hemlock]

Kubrow builds are goated

[coral crest]

If you can do it easily then why not

[frigid crater]

And its not like priming with cold is Impossible since we have epitaph

[coral crest]

Yeah

[hollow scarab]

im trying to reach damage cap on the hate but i have no idea what im doing. i do plan on getting the incarnon but have no idea what incarnon perks to take. any help would be appreciated

[near vortex]

careen and shivering contagion is great too

[frigid crater]

There's a very big elephant in the room

[coral crest]

Shivering contagion spreads the full freeze from careen?

[near vortex]

Shivering Contagion works on most of your loadout

Including Careen

[fierce lark]

ive also gained a lot of respect for melee careen

not on melee builds ofc because it's not influence

but freezing a big group of enemies makes it a lot easier to aoe them all down with torid or smth, and the extra crit dmg helps

it helps a lot if you're not playing a weapon buffer (which is why i use it on nekros)

[coral crest]

That's not what I asked actually, I know that

I meant whether it transfers the instant 10 cold stacks

[near vortex]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

shivering does spread the freeze from careen yeah

[coral crest]

That's nice

[fierce lark]

and you can equip it on a tazicor or laser rifle or smth

[near vortex]

I put it on my Paris statstick because I have room

[coral crest]

Hm

[late hemlock]

Do you have a riven?

[coral crest]

It works on abilities?

[late hemlock]

Been trying hard to get cc and sc

[coral crest]

Actually I should just check the wiki

[near vortex]

Hell yeah

No negative but it's CC SC

[coral crest]

I will use the underrated skill not many people possess

[late hemlock]

How many rolls?

[fierce lark]

pretty sure it works on anything whatsoever

[coral crest]

Called reading

[late hemlock]

Im 111 in with only 270 cc no sc

[fierce lark]

if you have shivering contagion equipped, and you inflict cold, that cold has a chance to spread

[near vortex]

Just over 100 I think, lemme look

[fierce lark]

makes 0 difference where it comes from

[late hemlock]

@near vortex maybe you can help here btw

[fierce lark]

the only thing i can think of is catalyzer link instead of critical delay

[hollow scarab]

im sorry but im dum or blind

[late hemlock]

Nah i need the crit

[near vortex]

Nah, not until you roll SC on the riven

[late hemlock]

Rip

Still not sure what frame ill give the 5 archon shards for status

[coral crest]

The limbo is almost crafted

I will have so much... Fun?

[late hemlock]

Maybe rhino idk

[near vortex]

Citrine

[late hemlock]

Don't wanna invest till she gets a prime

[near vortex]

Gives the Paris 300% status chance

[hollow scarab]

if its that the hate is missing fire damage, doesnt it just carry over from my abilities procing heat?

[near vortex]

I'd say Limbo but giving up casting speed shards sucks

[fierce lark]

it might be that you're trying to hit damage cap with a light attack build

im not familiar with the hate but idk how it would be hitting dmg cap

[late hemlock]

Could go with harrow to give Paris a huge crit boost

[hollow scarab]

well im not exactly a fan of spamming heavy attack so i only really want it to hit damage cap on a tennokai attack cuz i managed to make my venka do that

[near vortex]

Wisp with the augment?

[late hemlock]

Using it atm its also an option

[hollow scarab]

and im more trying to just get damagecap or at least as close to it as i can get

[late hemlock]

But I don't like using the augment

Feels super wonky targeting the motes

[tidal vine]

Anyone has a build for the acceltra with synergy with uriel? send to DM please

[coral crest]

Should be at the end of the year

If everything goes perfectly

[fierce lark]

citrine prime?

[coral crest]

Yeah

[late hemlock]

I can wait considering ill probably get burnt out soon and quit till the next huge update lol

[near vortex]

Does it have to be 5 tau red or would you sacrifice one red for a cast speed shard

[lofty tiger]

Any mirage mains?

[late hemlock]

5 red tau

[coral crest]

If the pattern stays the same were looking for
Styanax -> Voruna -> Kullervo -> Citrine for this year

[foggy patrol]

We haven't had one of those since last year

[fierce lark]

man i am

NOT ready for kullervo prime

[coral crest]

Yeah this will be a lot

I am expecting him to become as popular as someone like Gauss

[late hemlock]

So dec 2026?

[foggy patrol]

I came back to game after a year and have to shoot a giant with arrows for 10 minutes

Peak game design in big 26

[fierce lark]

lmao wait what

[coral crest]

?

[fierce lark]

oh yeah the uh

[near vortex]

Hunhullus fight takes like 2 minutes tops

[coral crest]

The uh

[fierce lark]

whatever the annoying child is boss fight that you have to do with a daikyu

i think it was a daikyu lmao idr

[foggy patrol]

Void lugger

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-adorable-punch-gif-17822730

[foggy patrol]

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[slow vortex]

Hello brothers

Void Cascade Mesa Build Idea

I spent about 1–1.5 hours theorycrafting the most logical setup for Void Cascade, and this is the concept I ended up with.

The core idea is to apply status with Bubonico alt-fire (middle click) and then clear enemies using Mesa’s Peacemaker as the main DPS tool.

I also make sure to take advantage of the Arcane buff from Dual Toxocyst headshots, which is an important part of the damage loop.

Archon Shards:
• 4x Tauforged Amber (Heat bonus)
• 1x Red shard: +37.5% Secondary Weapon Critical Chance to boost red crit consistency

Amp: 5-4-7
The triple-shot mode lets you delete Thrax units almost instantly.

[foggy patrol]

Thank you for saving my eyes wall of text man

[late hemlock]

You prime with bubonico but no debilitate?

[fierce lark]

you know a tau orange shard is just 2 tau red shards worth of crit right

[late hemlock]

Also yeah change that was about to add

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/engineer-tf2-türk-türk-engineer-turkish-muscle-engineer-gif-15768454058676549247

I know that language

[fierce lark]

also you should add in tauron strike with the tektolyst arcane Zid-An Uskos for the +250% secondary heat damage once it's stacked

[sharp silo]

is there a build for damage lvl cap amps?

[fierce lark]

depends on what apms is

[slow vortex]

Yes, I know, I already used the orange cus in my hand. When it happens, of course. I will make 5 turns

[slow vortex]

Its purpose is to spread the stat anyway

[slow vortex]

Nerden biliyorsun

[late hemlock]

Also no mention of melee or companion

Furax has an amalgam for secondary fire rate and pets have reinforced bond

Id use those and remove velocity for something like precision or augmented

[fierce lark]

also if you're priming corrocold from the bubonico you should equip shivering contagion somewhere

[mighty flare]

you know that velocity is the strongest dmg buff arcane for her regulators right

[fierce lark]

granted this is extreme overkill unless you're trying to do levelcap, and if you are then you need some survivability beyond what is there

ie catalyzing shields

[foggy patrol]

Bullet hose

[fierce lark]

hotshot+velocity are pretty much the two arcanes mesa should only ever have equipped

[foggy patrol]

He got them fancy sack of plats too just draw a lv5 arcane from market

[mighty flare]

theres stuff you can run besides hotshot but velocity is must

[coral crest]

Why is it a separate damage instance again

[sharp silo]

?

[fierce lark]

because potato

[late hemlock]

Been experimenting and performance seemed similiar but sure I suppose

Either way furax and companion advice stands

[mighty flare]

pure heat regulators for archon vitality aren't good
swap anemic and hornet for corrosive with primed convulsion

[fierce lark]

if you're stacking lethal torrent + rbond + furax it's probably not as big of a gain

but firerate also = status output which = faster corrosive stacking, faster statuses for galv shot

and on a weapon that doesn't have to reload

[late hemlock]

Not like you have anything else to do with melee tbf

[fierce lark]

you could run a praedos for the movement speed and whatnot

would still run furax though

[foggy patrol]

Put that mesa build on jade

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-super-mpreg-pregnant-gif-11572993620341527299

[mighty flare]

Velocity is still one of the best arcanes to run even with all of those 😭
ig hot shot comes close but nothing else really compares

[fierce lark]

what im saying

what else would you even run? any strength source will do less than either, nothing rly makes sense for survivability unless you're trying to play persistence mesa lol

maybe blessing for lazy tanking

or aegis

ive found adaptation+shatter shield does the job

[slow vortex]

Should I change it with corrosive instead of fire?

[mighty flare]

no keep heated charge
hornet strike --> toxin mod
anemic agility --> primed convulsion

[slow vortex]

Regulator build

[undone dust]

just run fortifier on your bum secondary and generate overguard from shatter
ez

[undone dust]

you might wanna swap around elements brotato paste

[mighty flare]

swap heated charge and convulsion

[slow vortex]

Okey thank you

[random snow]

Whats a good build for nekros on farming juggernauts on steel path?

[rugged ferry]

hows this look for the Aegrit

its roughly 600k dmg boom

[karmic badger]

How's the ammo economy

[rugged ferry]

i mean...its Aegrit
so....2 in mag
4 for reload

each one throws 2

so each mag maxes you out to 4 thrown

then u got 2 reloads and your dry

but its got 2ndary ammo mutation so...seems to work

[karmic badger]

Yeah i liked the aegrit, but its only fun on protea

[rugged ferry]

i using it on koumei

u got annoying decree challenges like kill while sliding
kill while wall latch
kill while airborn

throwing these, doing that requirement, and then manually detonating. seems to work well

[low flax]

does arcane avenger give me +45% crit chance as in "if i have 10% crit chance i will now have 55% crit chance" or as in "if I have 10% crit chance I will now have 14.5% crit chance"?

[versed harbor]

its flat crit so 55% ye

[low flax]

awesome

[hollow scarab]

hey should i use the kuva grattler or the kuva ayanga for the dark refracotry stuff? im trying to actually be able to deal damage in the archwing phase

cuz im tryina decide whats better to get built up

[late hemlock]

Ngl a barely modded imperator was fine for me in steel path version just make sure you shoot at the weakspot and hit the 4 targets when they show up

[hollow scarab]

aight

[mighty flare]

do you have the mausolon

[hollow scarab]

i do but i have done jack with is and those are kinda my two best

[fierce lark]

if your grattler is more built than your mausolon, just use that

[late hemlock]

Its like a sub 1 min fight if you hit the head and targets i wouldn't worry too much about archguns

[stray oyster]

is this supposed to happen?

[fierce lark]

what's happening

[late hemlock]

Visual thing with overcharge

[fierce lark]

oh INF multishot lol

[late hemlock]

Ignore it

[fierce lark]

yeah it doesn't actually know how much armor you have so it just displays inf, only visual

[stray oyster]

dang i thought i ascended

[fierce lark]

you can think that if it makes you feel all powerful

[late hemlock]

Its funny they added inf as a value to display in the first place ngl

[stray oyster]

yes i will, thank youu!!

[late hemlock]

Use overcharge + mirage 1

You will ascend

[stray oyster]

can mirage get to 1k energy? since im currently using big grend

[late hemlock]

Technically you can slap archon shards on everything

Don't remember her base energy ngl

[nocturne spindle]

But muh max strength

[late hemlock]

Funny >>>>>>>

[stray oyster]

fairs icl idk how mirages 1 works anyway

[late hemlock]

She creates clones that shoot more projectiles

Use heavy caliber on your primary + overcharge

Screen goes bonkers

[stray oyster]

ohh yeahhhh

[coral crest]

It would take pflow, 5 blue tau and arcane battery to hit 1000

Or pflow, 3 blue tau and triumbral with battery

Doesn't sound like it's worth it

[stray oyster]

oh.... the 5 blue tau is why im using big grendy

yeah

[late hemlock]

Meme builds are the endgame

[coral crest]

Another way would be health conversion

[late hemlock]

Conversion + battery works ig

[coral crest]

It will cap the arcane if you have pflow + battery

[late hemlock]

Or parasitic armor + battery

[coral crest]

Would only hit 820

[late hemlock]

Thats why you use arcane expertise

[coral crest]

[late hemlock]

Expertise + parasitic is unironically extremely good

Gonna probably do that on her with like a supra vandal or something

Sounds fun

[coral crest]

Garuda wins again

987 from one blue shard and pflow

[kindred pumice]

what should i add to the acceltra, on the frame i got hot shot and acceleration

[hearty nexus]

This build good?

[fallow shale]

I need help with my Tauron weapon, it’s acting weird

Let’s say I start of the Narmon Sword, which is the one I’m using, with nothing equipped.

Then I equip the Zid-an Osbok Arcane.

I follow up by putting Metem-Hakh, Ubri-Kaneph, Esti Vel-Ikha, Empazu-Shol, and Omn-Evi.

They are currently ranked R1, R1, R2, R3, and R2 respectively.

I get the green stat increase in the stats column like I should.

I then exit out, then enter back in. It shows my stats as higher than they should have been, as well as grey out arrows leading to the greyed out values of what stats I should have had, acting like the wrong values are what I start with and I suddenly removing someone that will lower the stats.

I exit and reenter, but it remains the same: wrong stays acting like it will drop to the actual stats it’s supposed to have

What’s going on? Is it a bug or something else?

[gusty nova]

Are you in a relay

[narrow lance]

thoughts? Sellable?

[charred gale]

yeah but gl finding a buyer

the rolls decent but no one rly cares abt that gun

[glass rampart]

Behold

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1241757753882706033/1462986405335662676/image.png?ex=69702fc4&is=696ede44&hm=b5edf9717ce19e3603583046913dd10c4bb81c823dd236e5644ec3bf548d8f06&

The "screw everyone" riven

[charred gale]

i believe it is referred to ask a "racist riven"

[half hound]

Im trying to make improvments to my oraxia. The changes I made were removing precision intensify for archon then added transient instead of auger. But Im curious for subsume choices, I don't think her summons are that useful. Im trying to use either jades or soon to be cytes subsume hence why on the test build im using Crepuscular unless the tenacious bond on my companion is more than enough.

[stable walrus]

Speaking of Oraxia, what are the best primary and secondary weapons for her? Not just Sobek, a top 3 of each and why, I'm really unsure about this.

[viscid bane]

Thoughts on this Tonkor build? Dunno if replacing Serration with Galv Aptitude be better. Ignore the empty Exilus slot, waiting for adapter to craft.

[astral tinsel]

gaptitude doesn't work on AoE

[viscid bane]

having both Merciless and Serration feels kinda weird. Any replacement suggestions or should I keep it?

[rare lichen]

I have a persistence tank build if you want it. Done multiple level cap runs with it paired with ocucor

[fierce lark]

no different than having merciless and gapt together

probably drop serration for hellfire to make viral heat

[rare lichen]

if you're ever low on health, just recast your 4th and you get max health

[viscid bane]

Already have Viral heat

[karmic badger]

Shred

[fierce lark]

would swap progenitor to magnetic

[karmic badger]

Wait tonkor

Fek

[fierce lark]

60% is a low number for your dmg element

this might be an okay weapon for hunter munitions

[karmic badger]

Well, if he's using precision strike, would crux be a funny setup?

[fierce lark]

probably not

[karmic badger]

Actually would acuity work on the tonkor

[fierce lark]

this does not seem like a weapon you want to feast or famine headshots with

[karmic badger]

But it would be interesting

[viscid bane]

Total dmg numbers if it matters

[fierce lark]

i retain that hunter munitions might be okay given how low the status chance is on such a slow-firing gun

[scarlet mason]

Does rift torrent, augment for limbo's 3rd ability, can give multiplicative dmg to some weapones from GUNCO just like surration type mods?

[finite lintel]

Anyone know a good atlas build

[scarlet mason]

OH I want one too!

[finite lintel]

Yeah I just got him yesterday and want a good build for him

[scarlet mason]

I heard that his augmebt that make him a rumbler is very good. Multiple ways of amplifying dmg are available

[finite lintel]

I will try and get that one too

I'm also trying to get wisp prime I just need that stuff you get from nightwave

[scarlet mason]

Ahh nihil extract was it?

[karmic badger]

https://youtu.be/sv-be3SOumo
I find this atlas build the most funny

[finite lintel]

Something like that

Yk I think I'm just going to experiment and try things out myself instead of asking someone or looking it up

[hot thunder]

So, anything i can change here really? this is excalibur umbra, and this build does really well against huge hordes of enemies, like infested, techrot and scaldra, but for some reason, if i take it to the void against corrupted enemies, it is less efficient?

[scarlet mason]

Good way to learn. You will probably like him more thx to that. But don't abandon guids complitely. They often show stuff you would have a hard time finding out yourself, like unique gimmicks and interructions.

[finite lintel]

Yeah

[karmic badger]

Infested and techrot don't have armor, and you have 1999 buffs against scaldra

Also what's the exalted blade setup?

[hot thunder]

oops i forgot, here it is since i use wrathful i try to focus on crit damage

[karmic badger]

If you're going for crit damage glav steel is better

And if you got a primer companion, condition overload is worth while, probably replacing gladiator vice

[scarlet mason]

Purple archon shards for crit dmg are also good

[hot thunder]

my companion is the panzer vulpaphyla for this specific build, so i dont have much priming outside of viral quils And im running with 5 purple shards: 2 for equilibrium effect, and 3 for crit damage

[karmic badger]

Doesn't matter, bond mods lets you apply elements from their claws on abilities

[sturdy sigil]

Hey, I got a question would I go for Umbra Intensify or Archon Intensify? My friend said Archon Intensify for the 60 ability strength increase, but it seem situational to me.

For Uriel btw

[karmic badger]

Uriel can reliably damage his minions and heal them, to activate the passive

You just press 3 to damage them, then 2 to heal them, and voila, an extra 30% str

[half hound]

If you have it yes please.

[hot thunder]

this is the panzer build. For the claws, i went with corrosive damage and Magnetic Strike

i dont have many of the claw mods, so magnetic strike is kinda a filler

[hot thunder]

well turns out that worked, thankfully i was able to fit everything in without re forma the exalted blade, all except condition overload. sadly my panzer can only really spread viral for now, so i guess i have to work on its build so it can spread more status

[pallid quiver]

what should i spec into for mesa prime? and her pistols? does anyone have example builds

[long portal]

arcane choices a bit weird but build is generally good

[rare lichen]

you can replace energy conversion with transient fortitude

[long portal]

i use molt aug and arcane strike (i use talons) or molt aug and arcane aegis

[woven wren]

can anyone help me with titania? i just got her and i am still wondering whether what's the best build for her, blast or slash

[gaunt minnow]

Thoughts?

[rare lichen]

xatas's blast by faaar

[gaunt minnow]

I have molt augmented(until i get hot shot) and energize

3 red for str and 2 yellow casting speed

[rare lichen]

I love using her, I main her in almost every mission, except defenses lol

[woven wren]

so viral slash outdated now? i’m not sure how i’m gonna use her. can you tell me what's the benefit of using xata’s whisper with blast

[rare lichen]

enemies now have higher health pools, and dex pixia has slash status anyways. You want blast so it can kill enemies at a 5m radious. damage is booster by xata's whisper and even further with elementalist

If you dont like bane, replace it with magnetic might

easily reaches level cap

[karmic badger]

I really need to farm brief respite

Goddamn apothics

[charred gale]

YOU DONT HAVE BRIEF RESPITE???????

[karmic badger]

I just brute force with augur mods

[pallid quiver]

i thought most people dont

[charred gale]

Ok well tbf most builds need range so you just use augur reach instead

But still damn bruh

[charred gale]

Yeah lol

Same gate anyways

[karmic badger]

Also passive gating with fast deflection and vigilante with arcane Aegis gets close

At least for my mirage

[charred gale]

Pretty much immortal as long as u dont get 1 tapped

[charred gale]

Yeah that build is just dumb

Actually unkillable if ur moving around

[karmic badger]

Rolling guard with preados melee careen

Ultimate panic button

[charred gale]

I never panic with that build lol, i barely die with it so its rly chill

[high latch]

Does anyone have a no frills build for Uriel to carry me through star chart please?

I can spare a few forma and I've just unlocked all the archon mods

Him or Gauss even

[trim wigeon]

yo

anyone got a Proboscis Cernos build i can use

maybe a Prisma Lenz build too

i like bows that blow up

[pallid quiver]

may i suggest nataruk

[rare lichen]

kuva bramma is good too

[fierce lark]

bramma is the "bow that blows up", but it requires you either use energized munitions, pistoleer swapping, or play cyte09 for resupply

or you'll run out of ammo constantly

[old marsh]

bows should have inf ammo. there. i said it

[rare lichen]

nataruk does, only one i think

[fierce lark]

incarnon bows don’t technically but they may as well

amalgam daikyu TA has ammo retrieval

[late hemlock]

They just need to let you retrieve arrows off enemies

Unless it's like an explosive i guess

[bitter sinew]

Good roll?

[mighty flare]

If ogris were a crit gun, no not really, the -grineer ruins it
crit ogris uses flat crit sources anyway, cc% is bad on it

[bitter sinew]

Managed to sell ot for 220 plat worth?

[golden vortex]

any good?

[foggy patrol]

No

[golden vortex]

sadness

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/punchup-punch-up-robert-robert-dispatch-punchup-dispatch-gif-3237503930796324216

[acoustic bluff]

Terrible ngl you don’t want crit or that neg

[kindred pumice]

holy capitalism, spare me some platinum pls

[golden vortex]

enough platinum to soak his balls permanently

[glass rampart]

so i kinda

figured out how to make the akarius not run out of ammo so much

i just kinda added ammo max on it

but tbf i usually play missions with high enemy density so-