builds-discussion

[undone dust]

if ammo is an issue then yeah opt for that but it's not an aoe weapon so im pretty sure it doesn't have horrible reserves

[stiff flower]

Ok

[queen parcel]

hey why do so many people like gloom? seems kinda mid especially on sevagoth himself

[undone dust]

just free slow and healing if needed

[stiff flower]

I use it on my infinite undying chroma

Makes persistence arcane broken

[queen parcel]

oh i don't doubt it's bad or anything

it just...i mean i really don't see why it's on sevagoth lol

[stiff flower]

True enough.

[undone dust]

yeah neither do i tbh LMAO, slowing enemies kind of sucks for his nuke and he doesn't really need life steal

[stiff flower]

But yeah. Thanks for the advice sky :D now my war hero limbo is gonna ruin peeps

[undone dust]

np twin

[queen parcel]

what's a good subsume on him?

and do i need any duration on sevagoth?

[stiff flower]

Btw my limbo has 314% duration :D

[undone dust]

roar (naturally)
and yeah you'd like a little duration

[queen parcel]

is there anything else?

cause i'm tired of roar on most of my builds

[uneven field]

warriors rest or chromatic build

[undone dust]

not really, he's just a nuker
nothing too special

[uneven field]

this build, warriors rest or chromatic blade

[queen parcel]

shame

[undone dust]

you can be quirky and go mecha sevagoth but you'd uhh
still use roar

[stiff flower]

Tbh I havent played excal umbra once after the sacrifice quest besides mastery

I mainly played chroma xD

[uneven field]

fair i just need to know which is better overall

[fierce lark]

well you need both

[uneven field]

i can't fit both tho...

[fierce lark]

why not?

warriors rest does literally the same thing as power drift

[uneven field]

OH

[fierce lark]

it's an exilus lol

[uneven field]

i didn't notice it was exilus

my bad'

[fierce lark]

you need it so that your warframe won't get itself killed while you're in transference

[undone dust]

you have to die now probably

[elder flame]

BEBUS CHRIS!!!!!! How did you mod for 314%???? What mods did you get, and where do you get them?????

[fierce lark]

bebus

314% what

[elder flame]

How did you get 314% on limbo, I should say. (Jebus, as in Jesus, Chris, as in Christ, btw.)

I don't take the Lord's name in vain.

Let alone curse. That's not my style.

Imma switch channels. The replies seem to be slow-ish. I'll reply when someone replies to me.

[stiff flower]

https://overframe.gg/build/957837/limbo-prime/matrix-breaker/

3 tau red duration 2 tau yellow casting speed

[stiff flower]

Limbo

[elder flame]

Thanks!!! I appreciate it. I currently have a range+duration build, but I need duration over range.

[stiff flower]

This is my f your reality limbo. Debating about using rolling guard... but i already use vazarin so j can status cleanse already

Nvm.... thought vazarin sling cleansed. Guess I need to fit rolling guard somewhere

[fierce lark]

protective sling makes you invulnerable

the condition of being invulnerable also makes you immune to status effects, which includes removing any you are currently under

i think

either way sling lasts 5s and all damaging statuses last 6 so it should amount to the same thing

[stiff flower]

Actually.... going only for 2tau reds for 30% meaning 284 duration. 2 tau yellow casting speed, one purple shard 1 equilibrium

Oh. I see. Huh.

Might need to dabble with my operator arcanes again. Been using magus repair and magus melt forever

[near vortex]

Rapid Resilience

[hexed lodge]

Viral Tempest, Wyrd Scythes, Silence, Pillage (or Condemn)
Gloom is surprisingly good on sevagoth but only if you snapshot it's slow cap of 272% str, you won't notice how good the slow is if below 258%

[queen parcel]

...

Damm I already threw on roar

[near vortex]

roar lets you one shot level cap at 255% strength

[hexed lodge]

You can use other loadouts

[queen parcel]

Though...how do wyrd scythe work again? I could never get the hang of dagath during my time with her in the circuit

Seemed kinda like a nothing frame tbh

[stiff flower]

I don't even know what that mod does tbh

[hexed lodge]

Spawn 7 scythes around, and after a 0.5s delay, the scythes go and they viral+slow enemies, with Viral, you only need 200% str for the 2+1 combo
ahem - https://overframe.gg/build/956305/sevagoth-prime/sevagoth-eda-eta-approved-nuke-shadow-wyrd-scythes/

[queen parcel]

Oh I've got a companion to proc viral

It's a dethcube with duplex bond and the Nautilus prime weapon molded for mostly viral

Among other ofc lol

[hexed lodge]

Cool, altho I'm unsure if Deathcube can prime faster than Wyrd Scythes even with duplex

just throwing it out there if you get tired of Roar

[queen parcel]

shrug

Stops me from having to worry about it...ever

I have 4 drones each built for priming on different types of builds, a Nautilus for gun platforms, diriga for melee, dethcube for ability spam and a wyrm for whenever I need some extra survivability

And doggos for specific cases like one that's built for hunting down eximus and shit

[near vortex]

It's like Rapid Resilience but with no cooldown

[stiff flower]

Like rapid resilience?

[hexed lodge]

Soooooo how you're gonna build him? got a bit lost

[stiff flower]

You mean rolling guard? Lol

[near vortex]

yeah

that

[stiff flower]

75% less status duration sounds neat. Is it all status duration? Even beneficial ones like buffs?

Or just hostile

[queen parcel]

Oh uh I just threw on p flow, reach, auger reach, p continuity, blind rage, catalysing shield, the two augments with most augmented and arcane energize

Kinda cookie cutter but oh well, not like I can go for weird ass niche things all the time lol

[hexed lodge]

Roar or roarless? also, fair

[pallid quiver]

Anyone have a good zarr build? Not sure what I should be specing into

[mighty flare]

what do you have rn if anything

[rancid zenith]

Hi, I'm starting the game and I wanted to know how to unlock the Rhino System and the Rhino Neuro-Optics.

[cerulean cradle]

which one guys

[fierce lark]

right

[velvet pulsar]

U can stop rerolling now

[ripe dove]

What weapons are good for killing enemies in Yareli’s 4th ability?

[proper shell]

is 4 red tauforge melee crit and 1 yellow tauforge casting speed for wukong prime good if I'm going big stick bonk bonk ?

[surreal python]

Decent amps for Zenurik/last gasp?

[karmic badger]

147 or 547

[surreal python]

Good for decent damage, right? I'm looking to get rid of the Sirocco 😅

[karmic badger]

Both are just good in general

For thrax hunting, last gasp, or if you just wanna mess around with the glaive alt fire

Heck its decent enough for eidolon hunting if you're not trying to min max

[surreal python]

I just need a decent alternative to Sirocco and base mote amp tbf, most of my utility comes out of the frame but I'm just not comfortable with my drifter doing NOTHING but being a step towards buffing my frame

I'll do 147

And considering I'm still levelling both of these up, I'll do 547 if I can get around to it

[karmic badger]

Yeah only the prism counts for mastery, so having the same x47 setup but with different prisms is perfectly fine

[stone folio]

is it worth running molt augment on chroma if i run "Guardian Armor" as the added ability strength wont add until the duration has run out and i cast the ability again?

[wide rose]

Does anyone know if Pistol Acuity, which locks multishot to 1, also renders the galvanized mods useless? I'm guessing it does, but would like confirmation

[stone folio]

i think it does cause i have not seen any increase from it while running acuity

[woven lynx]

why in the world my damage scales weirdly in open world in cetus?

like I literally oneshot enemies that are like level 400+ and more

but struggle with dudes that are 100?

wtf is this?

[old marsh]

Were they Narmer?

[woven lynx]

No

[karmic badger]

i wanna make the tenet envoy good but its really tricky

[old marsh]

struggling against what level?

its an AOE projectile. u want it to one shot enemies. so use Blast (+Electric)

rest is the same. multi shot and crits

[velvet pulsar]

Hemorrhage?

[karmic badger]

Its what i rolled for EDA, kinda forgor i even had it

I stuck gas because it doesn't need multiple stacks, but since its scaldra this week

Probably should just go for blast electricity

[old marsh]

u can try but its not that good as u may think

[karmic badger]

The only builds on Overframe are hunter munitions viral builds

[old marsh]

unless u already have and it has a better kpm than Blast setup

[karmic badger]

And even i know that's not... That good

God the ammo economy makes me ick

[old marsh]

it falls flat on EDA/ETA. its good till early SP. after that nah

this is what i use

in place of riven u can put Hammer shot

this is what i have

envoy has a painfully slow reload hence Rad reload. i couldnt get a roll on the riven unfortunately

[velvet pulsar]

Doesn't it have a passive holster reload?

[old marsh]

it does. but assume this is the only weapon u have

wait 10 seconds

[karmic badger]

My other weapon for EDA is the Akkarius lmao

At least i got okinas...

[velvet pulsar]

So u can stack it with Lock & Load exilus mod

[old marsh]

bruh. u got gold. why even worry about Envoy then

[velvet pulsar]

That's good

[karmic badger]

Cause someone has to babysit flare

Also initially my frame was khora

[old marsh]

honestly i love Envoy but it really falls flat at higher lvl content unless u use WF buffs which obviously cant be done in EDA/ETA.

[karmic badger]

Now i have dante so i wanted to make a second attempt

[velvet pulsar]

This is why I take universal loadout for all EDA ETA

[old marsh]

Hildryn/Dante + filler with all modifiers

[velvet pulsar]

Nah mine is different approach

Assimilate Nyx with Duplex Bond Moa having Verglas Prime

(assimilate makes any robotic companion invulnerable)

I use Hildryn when a modifier reduces my energy max

I also switch pet to raksa kubrow

That way not even lethargic shields modifier can stop hildryn

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[nova swift]

I was using a hound for this but any reason to pull out my moa FISTO is a reason enough for me

[velvet pulsar]

Hound can enjoy using reflex denial and prime radiation if u got rid of 3, but same, I wanna use Moa with Verglas Prime not invading my personal space to kill the same enemy I'm targeting unlike sentinels.

[woven lynx]

is dis good? I kinda followed mag bible guide on overframe

or this (changed arcanes)

[hoary sleet]

which archon mods are best to get first? i started with archon continuity

[velvet pulsar]

Stretch. Then intensify.
Vitality is optional damage boost. Flow is not worth it most of the time.

[hoary sleet]

thank you!

[pallid quiver]

anyone have a lex prime build i could yoink?

[forest magnet]

Is the Kuva Sobek still a good weapon on frames like Gauss?

Also - is there a build that makes Mirage or Saryn essentially immortal like there's a build for Gauss to do so?

I'd love to play either of them, but Gauss is just so comfy being nigh-unkillable

[cyan lotus]

Continuity and Stretch imo. Stretch can be universally applied if a companion procs electricity. It’s a nice boost to energy economy. Vitality only sees its uses on a select few people imo

[karmic badger]

Multishot, crit, and galvanized shot, for elements go for either gas or blast

[velvet pulsar]

Not really
non-acid shells setup can take advantage of thermal Transfer build

[velvet pulsar]

Arcane Persistence or shield recharge delay mods with aegis along with vazarin's guardian break and grimoire tome mod for more shield recharge delay reduction

Persistence will require a bit setup

[karmic badger]

Yeah was about to say, you're gonna need external armor for that to work

Honestly passive shieldgating with circumvent and rolling guard might be the best effort to reward ratio

[velvet pulsar]

Blue archon shards for passively fulfilling that requirement

[hoary sleet]

since i already had continuity, i just got stretch. my main warframes are mirage, khora, yareli and citrine rn. i think they would all benefit from the bonus right? as for companion i use a smeeta 90% of time

[forest magnet]

The thing is, is that with some setup, Gauss is actually unkillable except for Toxin damage

Like, I can just afk as long as I don't get dealt Toxin damage

That level of comfortability is so nice

[karmic badger]

Yeah, gauss gets to glitch aegis into his shield regen passive

And rolling guard will deal with procs

[velvet pulsar]

Ur PFP is Goku and u limit urself to toxin
I say "Even further and beyond!"

[forest magnet]

I don't even need Rolling Guard lmao

Arcane Nullifier makes me immune to Magnetic status effect

[velvet pulsar]

I subsumed Well of Life on 2nd ability of gauss

[forest magnet]

I got Roar there, running him as a Weapons platform so

[cyan lotus]

Every frame that doesn’t have a channeled ability on them or subsumed onto them can take advantage of the energy regen. The frames you described are suited for it

The energy drain mitigates the energy regen

[hoary sleet]

awesome, thanks!!

[velvet pulsar]

Even then the companion will help u if u have seismic bond

That way in case of channelled abilities ur companion is giving u efficiency, and without that case, ur companion is procing archon stretch

Win-win.

[cyan lotus]

More energy the merrier

[plain drum]

continuity>stretch>intensify>vitality>flow

continuity is best since theres a lot of frames that apply toxin, stretch can be used for frames with electric damage or electric exalteds, intensify is for frames that have healing abilities/augments/helminth, vitality is for the ones that apply heat (e.g uriel/lavos/ember/gauss), flow is uhh idk lowkey probably mainly on frost

lavos can use it but theres better options to drop energy orbs

for cd reduce

[velvet pulsar]

Frost and anyone with thermal sunder

Still doesn't justify it

[undone dust]

dont forget about companions being able to proc stretch so it can pretty be much used on anyone

[plain drum]

oh yeah this too

[velvet pulsar]

Also vitality does have subsume options like null star

[plain drum]

archon flow is probably the only one i dont have and havent bothered getting

[velvet pulsar]

Oh and ESO nuker mirage can also proc archon flow from her 2nd ability augment

The mod drops a 50 energy cost orb at ur location rather than a regular 25 energy orb on enemy corpse location.

[plain drum]

is it kill with cold abilities or kill enemies that have cold status

[velvet pulsar]

Cold Abilities

As in killing damage

[plain drum]

that seems pretty hard to do at higher levels

i cant think of any

aside from frost or gauss

[velvet pulsar]

Yep
Most reliable option is some kind of exalted with cold like venari with cold modding or theorem infection and residual malodor

[plain drum]

then again i dont know if the blast damage counts towards the cold ability killing

i'd prioritise stretch but it also kinda depends on what frames you have and or plan on getting

[velvet pulsar]

There's also weird UI occurance where companion claw damage is being shown in purple color which is usually used for ability damage so I need to test if regular companion claws when modded for cold can proc archon flow.

[plain drum]

speaking of planning, im tryna get dual torxica how does it compare to the laetum or whatever

[velvet pulsar]

50% dmg vulnerability debuff to enemies

[plain drum]

ok lets say for legacyte/necramech/acolyte destroying

[velvet pulsar]

So you're buffing literally anything else in ur loadout

[plain drum]

which one does the job better

dopes it also spread other elments modded in it?

[velvet pulsar]

Nope
However secondary Encumber procs on cold procs

So that's a good AoE priming

[gaunt crater]

yo i got a question

[velvet pulsar]

yo I got an answer

[gaunt crater]

im kind of new to this whole riven thingy,is this good

[velvet pulsar]

It's nice
Riven can be rolled for better stats, but it's nice nonetheless.

[gaunt crater]

some time ago i opened a bunch of them, are they expensive, because i dont really use the weapons they are for

[velvet pulsar]

Some can be very expensive

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

super low dispo

[gaunt crater]

can i just send a list of mine?

[velvet pulsar]

That multishot is atleast welcomed one.

It's a better vigilante armaments

[rare lichen]

use Nokko's subsume and you never have to worry about energy problems

[gaunt crater]

these are the ones i use at this moment, im not sure about if they are sellable so id be happy about some feedback

[velvet pulsar]

Energy has several alternatives

Energy Max has majorly 3 options

Primed Flow
Arcane Battery
Or Archon Flow

[karmic badger]

Don't forget Even Flow

https://tenor.com/view/skate-skate-3-even-flow-pearl-jam-explain-this-gif-16793920153854695327

[velvet pulsar]

Ehh
TBH yeah.

We wouldn't be discussing all this if DE didn't nerf Helminth Charger back during companion rework.

[karmic badger]

Also, as a faux temp solution, blue shards

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah, honestly there was a time when ninjase made such a packed mag build that it used no energy max other than blue shards

[shrewd willow]

Can I get a Hildryn and Khora prime build for SP please

[pallid quiver]

hmm ok ill probably need a few formas to fit all that in lol

[karmic badger]

You'll want the incarnon before really investing in it

[glass cloak]

Is this decent, I suck at making build

[pallid quiver]

does the incarnon remove all forma and potatoes

if not i can just invest in it somewhat first

[karmic badger]

No, but its gonna sit there...

Plus, completing incarnon challenges offers exp to level up the gun

[pallid quiver]

mines masteried :p

[karmic badger]

Then ye, just forma it

[pallid quiver]

either ways i lack usable weapons rn so ill invest in whatever i can

what about base dual toxocyst

[jade gate]

A little bit of corrupted mods, some normal mods, some prime mods and a teeny tiny bit of augment. And Voila

[pallid quiver]

how good is it at base

[karmic badger]

Bad

Recoil alone gives me a migraine

[pallid quiver]

i can spec into recoil maybe

i mean what if i can deal with the recoil

is the damage profile good

[jade gate]

You don't need steel charge, gladiator aegis, and transient fortitude cuz you minions compensate for those. Just run range and strength with some corrupted mods

actually keep transient fortitue

[nova swift]

base dual toxo is okay, it becomes really good once you slap the incarnon on it

[pallid quiver]

ahh ok

can someone remind me which clan weapons are really good to get (at base and with investment / incarnon)

[karmic badger]

Amprex

[hard dove]

Ocucor, Torid, Dual Tox, Bubo, Phage

[velvet pulsar]

Bubonico

With incarnon definitely toxocyst

Toxocyst might as well be the best gun in the game.

It baffles me how much unique privileges it got.

[pallid quiver]

phage is really good?

i cant really get bubonico yet cuz its mr13

is bubonico good at base or is it another incarnon

[hard dove]

Bubo good at base

Only dual tox and torid have incarnon from this list

[pallid quiver]

ahh ok so base phage wll be good too

maybe ill build that next

[hard dove]

I heard it's really good
Haven't used it myself tho
Some people swear that it's equivalent to phantasma

[velvet pulsar]

Unless phage and Bubonico get a coda before u finish building

[pallid quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/all-roads-lead-to-rome-time-rabbit-gif-9497165517404307883

[velvet pulsar]

Which might be a bad news to u but good news to all of us.

[hard dove]

We truly are robbed

We could've got coda probo cernos as well

[karmic badger]

Coda mutualist Quanta

How many prefixes can we put on a gun

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine how funny would that be if somehow coda probo cernos required scyotid to acquire

[pallid quiver]

is mutualist quanta good?

[velvet pulsar]

It's a buffer
It's unique on its own

It buffs other guns

Behaves same as simulor

Except it also has a nightwave augment for its alt fire

[fallow ether]

How do I bring up cowbarf chart or whatever it's called?

[abstract bison]

how does ability damage from archon shards work

[hard dove]

Probably 4 if you count adversary name and exclude renaming with plat

[deep grotto]

It was good like
A year ago or something

[deep grotto]

What 😭

Wait do you mean the CRABSWEAT thing?

[dreamy forum]

has anyone tried circumvent+trusculence?

I get 10k overguard each roll through an eximus

so isn't that a guaranteed viral spread on 30m?

[karmic badger]

Yes, but you have to lose the overguard to do it again

Which, compared to other sources of viral priming, is far less consistent

[dreamy forum]

tbf in SP 10k isn'tthat much

but that's definitely not as good for limbo since you spend most of the time safe inside the rift

guess I'll stick to eruption with panzer

[velvet pulsar]

Multiplicative to ability strength buffs.

Also they don't affect exalted from what I've been told by ninjase.

[green solstice]

my guts is telling me rn that isnt the right build for saryn or oraxia
I know it should have bane but otherwise idk what to fix

[solar sequoia]

Just wanna confirm something - prisma gorgon is the best choice for incarnon, right?

[mellow nimbus]

i have that with a really good riven and it was still kinda a let down lmao

[solar sequoia]

Damm, rip lol. But amongst the gorgon variants, that one's the best for incarnon or nah?

[mellow nimbus]

iirc yes. that's the one i used too

[versed harbor]

this is ok but primed point blank is pretty bad here imo

cuz u have merciless

[mellow nimbus]

just to clarify, it's not bad. it's just not that great of an incarnon. it's still better than most non incarnon weapons

[solar sequoia]

yeah fair, Im not surprised that's the case, so imma proceed with prisma gorgon then

[green solstice]

Thanks to remember, it was still on by pirita runs

But wouldn’t blight or pure toxin make any difference ?

[abstract bison]

this is the only information available about ability damage

[versed harbor]

for saryn it doesnt rly matter, modded toxin affects lash even if its combined into viral etc

also make sure ur using roar if no faction mod (or even if u do tbf

[green solstice]

Roar is safe included, but when I run saryn on pirita mode, there’s no real “fitting” faction mod so it’s better either run point blank or extra toxin

[dusty dragon]

do ppl tend to use the dera vandal incarnON or incarnOFF?

[green solstice]

Use it mainly off but on is neat

[versed harbor]

maybe try fire rate over ppb for when u cant use faction? They arent rly comparable since acid shells benefits from faction mods in particular not rly base dmg

[dusty dragon]

how are people getting the stupid red crits on this thing?

[velvet pulsar]

Debilitate

[green solstice]

By getting the status chance in the modding higher too

[dusty dragon]

it maxes out at 140% status, right?

wut

wiki says 530%

[rare lichen]

you want primary blight for more multi shot and crit dmg. as for toxic lash, the damage is increased by elemental mods (not just toxin)

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnoff

[dusty dragon]

so how does the math on that perk actually work? 1/4 your modded status chance is added to your base crit chance, up to 35% of... what exactly?

[velvet pulsar]

Base

So u mod CC and it increases stupidly high

[rare lichen]

explosions from acid shells don't use multishot buffs so take off clip delegation (for oraxia or saryn builds) try swapping it for primed charged shell

[velvet pulsar]

The build is nowhere using Acid Shells

It's a regular shotgun build

[rare lichen]

? I see acid shells mod in there

[velvet pulsar]

Damn ignore that I'm shuffling between 2 servers and both are talking sobek lmao

Speaks loudly about meta

[quiet laurel]

for direct weapon hits elementals indirectly buff the hit cause the hit scales off of the final damage instance but for acid shells only toxin works afaik

[near vortex]

Did someone say Kuva Sobek

[velvet pulsar]

Nope
Only acid shells

Go back.

[near vortex]

Galv savvy over primed point blank and primary blight in arcane

[rare lichen]

acid shell explosion triggers another instance of toxic lash, which is then increased by elemental mods. so you want it to make a huge chain reaction

[green solstice]

I may sound dumb, but clip delegation wouldn’t that give more MS as blight?

Because I don’t get it why to get extra cd, if I don’t mod that extra in (even I know by so many pellets it can crit well)

[quiet laurel]

yeah but only toxin

with saryn specifically you basically have all the acid shells damage you can wish for so your primary goal is to decrease TTK of the initial target

I prefer to have some good fire rate to make that more comfy

[velvet pulsar]

Or abuse heat inherit to start acid shells

[rare lichen]

crit damage and multi shot is there for killing the initial target. use another elemental mod to increase your toxic lash damage

[velvet pulsar]

That way u won't even have to mod the sobek for multishot or crits

[rare lichen]

try this one out, if you can test on simulacrum or survival

[velvet pulsar]

U will abuse heat inherit to start acid shells explosion from another weapon

[rare lichen]

keep in mind that acid shells doesn't work properly if you're a client, you want to be host

[velvet pulsar]

That or resupply?

[quiet laurel]

TL works fine on client, resupply has issues on client

[green solstice]

What I get is delegation is good to have more MS but it’s useless in the beginning. So use blight and elec, for the build (Incould basically just throw out the riven with that having MS and dmg only on)

[velvet pulsar]

At this point just put 2 mods for status duration lol.

[mighty flare]

?

[velvet pulsar]

(this is unserious but mid, will be peak if gas status gets fixed)

[mighty flare]

that sounds terrible

you're doubling the work for the same result

[velvet pulsar]

The word you're searching for is "inconvenient"

And yes, it is.

For now.

[mighty flare]

that will always be inconvenient?
1 weapon versus at least 2

[rare lichen]

try what works best for you. For Saryn I'd suggest to use Roar for even more damage

[velvet pulsar]

It's only a useful advice if you can't kill via sobek, which isn't the case usually.
Unless the lingering clouds bug gets fixed and then people used 2 mods for status duration so it becomes even more AFK and it'll start triple dipping faction mods and so the loss of those 2 mod slots might impact sobek kill performance but not acid shells.

Context:
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1468875-gas-status-clouds-are-bugged-after-the-main-enemy-is-dead/

Not sure if DE is even willing to fix this TBH.

[quiet laurel]

unlikely

cause it'll open the gates for straight up afk farming without macros

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah more AFK everywhere

Okina, Sobek, Dual Ichor, etc.

[abstract bison]

i made shieldcalibur, got him to lvl 9999 cascade using circumvent, goated arcane

[velvet pulsar]

Pillage, Fortifier, arcane Guardian all in one arcane.

[abstract bison]

i also tried this persistence and circumvent build which completely kullervo-fies excalibur but rage wasn't enough energy sustain and i ended up just using my arsenal melee more

at lvl cap, persistence feels bugged where you can still get one tapped by regular enemies even if all conditions are met so maybe shieldgating is still superior in that sense

shieldcalibur with expertise feels way more comfier because circumvent can also steal enemy shields and turn it into 2k overshields lmao, the 1k shields with expertise is 2.5 seconds of immunity on shield break

[mighty flare]

what are you doing for status immunity

[abstract bison]

then the 10k overguard on top of that so triple gating and you're immune to toxin

primed sure footed is just redundancy

redundancy the build

[civic wadi]

is it to controversial to say that if your frame already does enough damage you should focus more on utility mods

[abstract bison]

not controversial at all, there is such a thing as too much damage where it feels wasted

[civic wadi]

also i got to build equinox a bit

i keep forgetting to make a build for her

[abstract bison]

amalgam barrel diffusion and amalgam serration lol

[civic wadi]

oh and this new hema mod is so good

[mighty flare]

you'd want something more consistent than og gating from eximus/thrax like the carnis set or spellbind

[abstract bison]

yeah the thrax just deletes persistence because of their magnetic procs so stuff like that and rolling guard helps alot

[fallow ether]

Hi, what is the best amp to use for stuff like Thrax and void angels? What arcanes to use?

[abstract bison]

I use a quills only 143 amp and just go for headshots even without madurai it’s 3 million dmg

Naramon enjoyer

[quiet laurel]

cause of the amp buffs it doesnt matter too much anymore but 547 still the best so you can pre shoot the burst when the thrax is about to get vulnerable

[severe bough]

547 is the best amp

And eternal onslaught with eradicate

[quiet laurel]

I am still a 1x7 enjoyer though cause I am just so based and good with my timing fr fr

[severe bough]

My ping says no🥀

[quiet laurel]

(still using eidolon amp for cascade)

[abstract bison]

Yeah just headshot the thrax

[mighty flare]

you don't really need to drain anymore, swapping onslaught for strike is fine

[quiet laurel]

I love draining my drifter though

[velvet pulsar]

I'm glad 5×× has 100m hitscan range.
I can snipe enemies with my amp.

[severe bough]

I guess every other is fine sometimes i dont even use any abilitys on clean headshot and there gone anyways

[mighty flare]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1150797852029767781/1451455128455614514/meme.gif

[fallow ether]

what is the 547 one again?

[quiet laurel]

check dms pls I need this info

[fallow ether]

and for the Operator?

[severe bough]

The burst one

[abstract bison]

I use lockdown and then transference healing

[velvet pulsar]

Magus Accelerant

[fallow ether]

no as In I genuinely can't remember the chart or whatever it was I used to make all mine

[velvet pulsar]

And Lockdown

[severe bough]

For cascade i use lockdown and cloud for normal i use lockdown and elevate tho elevate is kinda useless there probably better options

[velvet pulsar]

Cantic Prism, was it?
Phahd Scaffold
And Certus Brace.

[mighty flare]

mostly a personal preference

• magus melt for more dmg
• emergence dissipate for energy qol
• magnus cloud for cascade
• magus lockdown for crowd control
• magus anomaly for grouping
• elevate/repair/nourish for frame healing

[fallow ether]

and then Eternal Onslaught and Eternal Eradicate

[abstract bison]

Maybe magus melt in case of last gasp and there are no thrax to headshot lol

Pencha glaive go brr

[velvet pulsar]

Pair Magus Accelerant with Magus Melt

[fallow ether]

There's doing vod thrax but also what circumstances would you have for using what combo of these?

[mighty flare]

examples like
magus cloud + melt for casade to clear exos and 1-tap thrax or magnus elevate/repair/nourish to heal your frame while doing eidolons

the other options widely vary like outsourcing grouping to anomaly for frames like lavos

[fallow ether]

ok

but normal use is Magus Accelerant with Magus Melt right?

[velvet pulsar]

Accelerant stacks infinitely for infinite duration

[mighty flare]

no lol

[velvet pulsar]

You'd probably rather prefer magus cloud and magus melt right?

[mighty flare]

yeah

[fallow ether]

I meant like if I weren't doing Zariman

or elidolon

what combo?

[velvet pulsar]

Not sure if Accelerant works against eidos but u won't need increased void sling radius for them anyway so magus cloud won't be required there

[mighty flare]

eidolon would be a healing arcane + qol like savior

for just a general setup, running melt + anything you like is fine: lockdown, accelerant, savior, dissipate, whatever

[fallow ether]

ok thanks

[velvet pulsar]

Also because operator damage got boosted the shift of general play is still settling

[fallow ether]

sorry I just haven't done Arcanes ever so I am trying to figure out what combos are best with what

[velvet pulsar]

Probably will end up becoming more unstable and flexible

[mighty flare]

"best" means nothing unless you're narrow down on what you want lol
its ok

[velvet pulsar]

Which is good

Not really a meta rn

Contents can also demand different uses

Like people use lockdown for demolysts

[mighty flare]

eidos you can just build for 1-tapping with melt

[fallow ether]

I still use Sevagoth and use him for void cascade. I found that using Glaxion is great but amp needs work

[mighty flare]

havent used accelerant in forever, does it work for raw dmg?

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah raw heat will deal more too

[mighty flare]

nice

still don't need it for eidos tho lol

[velvet pulsar]

It's just a damage vulnerability debuff but specifically for heat

[mighty flare]

stole embers gimmick and put it on operators 🥀

[sonic cairn]

Anyone got any Boar Prime Incarnon builds

[velvet pulsar]

Back when DE didn't put any duration cap or stacking cap on their buffs...

[fallow ether]

What builds for Mechramech, ArchGun and Amesha?

[fierce lark]

im pretty sure necramechs have enough mod slots to throw every single relevant mod on lol

[vestal lintel]

Gyre prime or protea prime what would you guys prioritise in getting?

[abstract bison]

Making a warframe build based on survivorship bias

[fierce lark]

im trying to think when protea might be leaving

gyre prime is brand new so she should be around for awhile

[velvet pulsar]

U indirectly asking when Styanax Prime? (assuming we have 49 prime frames rn excluding Excalibur Umbra Prime)

[blazing finch]

Anything I should change

[fierce lark]

no im actually curious when current primes are gonna rotate lol, i never follow this stuff

[mighty flare]

any archgun in particular?

[velvet pulsar]

Amesha build is straightforward

[velvet pulsar]

That's it, rule any content.

[mighty flare]

no hyperion thrusters = bad build

[velvet pulsar]

Ultra cheese.

[mighty flare]

🥀

[velvet pulsar]

I'm suggesting this to a newbie bud.

Even I would hesitate with that last forma

But yeah, will replace superior defenses with Hyperion thrusters

[strong marsh]

thoughts

[mighty flare]

newbies should be guided to important mods to farm for me thinks

[velvet pulsar]

Hyperion thrusters being important is debatable

[mighty flare]

it is? archwing and railjack missions are flying simulators
using them in openworld is always for moving around

[velvet pulsar]

I said debatable, not a straight up no.

And since amesha doesn't need superior defenses then there's no issue in using Hyperion Thrusters

There, the debate is over.

[vestal lintel]

Sevagoth, xaku, gyre, protea and caliban, out of all of these which one should I go for? (all prime)

[velvet pulsar]

Protea

[deft salmon]

The riven is crit damage crot chance and cold which build is better?

[deft salmon]

I love caliban

[compact cypress]

what do yall think of my mesa?

[mighty flare]

archon vitality is pretty awful to buff up regulator dps
you can swap it for qol like rollin guard, or a parkour velocity mod

[late hemlock]

definitely not worth slotting an entire mod just for a the heat procs since you are shield gating

[compact cypress]

lowk had it on thinking it would help build hotshot faster icl 🤣

[mighty flare]

shield gaters can run archon vitality fine if it buffs their heat abilities good
regulators aren't reliant on dot dps so archon vitality provides little

[late hemlock]

i meant in the context of mesa specifically

[compact cypress]

now what about my uriel, lowk havent touched the build since his release and wondering what should change

[mighty flare]

umbral intensify --> archon intensify and its fine

[compact cypress]

alright, time to khal it up ig

[crisp pine]

anyone have an suggestions for my outdated nataruk build:

[vestal lintel]

beautiful setup you have there

[deft salmon]

Yea kitchen island

It's peak setup

[astral tinsel]

slot serration if not using a base damage buff, looks fine otherwise

you could also use a faction mod ofc

[hearty nexus]

Do I need more range?

[quaint breach]

Anyone have an Oberon prime build? I remember we needed roar but I forgot why

[mighty flare]

its to let the aoe of smite 1-tap groups of enemies rather than just kill 1

[quaint breach]

Ah ok

Any chance you have a CC/nuke build for Oberon

[mighty flare]

you need ~248% strength with 1 viral + 1 ability dmg shard to 1-tap with the aoe

oh btw this assumes you have armor strip from his 4 too

[fierce lark]

i would love to know what on earth posessed me to polarize the archon vitality slot instead of the aura on my mesa

[idle swan]

Hows my oberon build?

[sharp shadow]

Nataruk Crit Build, any suggestions?

[scenic echo]

I don’t care much for the bane mods

So you could always replace that with Hunter munitions

Here’s what I did for reference @sharp shadow

[sharp shadow]

Ah
Neat

[scenic echo]

Obviously the riven isn’t necessary for yours so go ahead and add the multishot for it

[scenic echo]

Solid start

I would say I’d move power drift or cunning drift to the exilus slot then get rid of the other

And use a aura that has a Y polarity as it gets you More capacity which is key

Also get rid of aerovantage

Slap a vigor on them

Stretch

And intensify

[idle swan]

Heard, thanks!

[scenic echo]

Oberon really loves high strength or high range

Or both

Also his augment for his 1 is ver ver nice
Thus the argument for high strength as it allows u to give urself that much strength in free radiation damage

[fringe magnet]

Can y’all take a look at my cedo and let me know how I did?

[idle swan]

Show ze riven

[fringe magnet]

Built in blast riven lol

[idle swan]

Looks like you using it in place of seration, so youre losing 70% damage but Id think the blast makes up for it

I dont have a massive brain but I think it looks solid

[fringe magnet]

Tbh the rag doll makes up for it 😂 I didn’t know grineer could accelerate that fast

[fierce lark]

electric instead of cold, critical delay over point strike if you have it, speed trigger over shred (unless it's too fast), get galvanized mods asap

bane is good if you're cool with rotating it per mission, otherwise you can stick the 60% electric mod there if you have it, or elementalist

[sharp shadow]

Cool

[astral tinsel]

Get galvanized aptitude and chamber

[fierce lark]

you can feel out the attack speed difference between speed trigger, vigilante fervor (if you have) & shred, but shred is definitely the worst of the three options

[astral tinsel]

Stack gaptitude with serration and longbow sharpshot

[fierce lark]

a new nataruk build probably doesn't have sharpshot yet, or any arcanes for that matter

[sharp shadow]

Correct

[fierce lark]

but the galvanized rifle mods (all of them) are exceptionally strong

[astral tinsel]

Just gaptitude and serration then

and chamber ofc

[fierce lark]

scope is lower priority than the other two but it pushes the nataruk into guaranteed red crits on perfect shots, which is great if you're running hammer shot anyways

[astral tinsel]

With scope I'd run bladed rounds over hammer shot

[fierce lark]

same, i frequently forget bladed rounds is a thing

[pure kiln]

what r the stats on that riven isn't the nataruk a 1/5 dispo?

[versed jasper]

What's the best companion weapon to prime large amounts of enemies quickly?

And consistently

[scenic echo]

High crit and something else (I forgets)

[scenic echo]

Pushes the crit chance to 80

Which rationalizes Hunter munitions

[queen parcel]

what would be the best archgun? i have a corvas prime but i'm wondering if smth like the kuva grattler might be better...

[versed jasper]

?

[mighty flare]

kuva grattler and mausolon are the best

[queen parcel]

i bought it with regal aya...damm

[queen parcel]

i like the verglas iirc that's what it's called

[mighty flare]

corvas prime is pretty strong but kinda slow

[queen parcel]

i just want the best in class considering i don't really use them much

[mighty flare]

but it also has the dumb charge trait

[queen parcel]

cause like...if i'm gonna grind for arcane/gravimag/catalyst

for a weapon class i dont use

[mighty flare]

i'd just stick to the mausolon, its a pretty great allrounder and good for all types of content

[queen parcel]

i uh

sold it

[fathom sky]

Brother.

[mighty flare]

go get it back bro

[queen parcel]

i didn't know how good it was

[fathom sky]

And that's why you don't touch stuff until after you figure that out

[coral crest]

Kuva grattler, oh Kuva grattler

[mighty flare]

i'd recommend go farming another mausolon and just stick to that
its very reliable

[cloud flax]

Ищу гуру по осколкам архонта

[mighty flare]

gara? garuda?

[queen parcel]

but it doesn't look as good...

yeah i should, but dont wanna farm archgun mods tbh

[cloud flax]

I'm looking for a mega knowledgeable person by the shards of the archon

[coral crest]

You mean guru

I know a bit of russian I may try to help explaining whatever you have to ask

[cloud flax]

Yep

[coral crest]

But in dms probably

Server rules

Fine here if you're fine with english though

[cloud flax]

Look well, it costs 2 purple taukawan + electric damage, it states that there is 1 more blue, purple and red in the warframe, then this will give another +15% for each, the question is how much electric % will there be in total if there are 2 purple 2 silih and 1 red in the warframe

One more thing

Will the second purple shard buff itself

?

[queen parcel]

the increasing percentage doesn't stack with other purples, it's a flat 15 for each extra purple, red or blue

[cloud flax]

45+45+15+15+15?

[versed jasper]

And how effect is it?

[coral crest]

Yes

[cloud flax]

Thank you, friend

[fallow ether]

Hey so years ago I asked this question but didn't really have a lot and didn't follow through: what are the best Zaws, are they useful these days and can you use them to get infested?

[cloud flax]

Is there a secondary weapon that easily kills the infected of the steel way, preferably in-line, similar to nyukar kuva?

[fallow ether]

to kill I mean

[cloud flax]

How do hoaxes work, let's say Main Headshot , do you use it after all the mods?

[midnight horizon]

Ocucor

[midnight horizon]

I don't understand the last line but yes it's still useful. At least when it comes to contagion zaws

[severe bough]

Rabvee and dokhram zaws are one of the best choices

Rabvee with a riv cuz higher dispo

[charred mauve]

its my personal fav

[fierce lark]

larkspur prime is pretty good

auto-aiming chain beam

although the auto-aim part might be archwing only

but yeah, chaining beam that does solid dmg

probably pretty good with enervate? idk what primary arcane you'd use though

[nocturne spindle]

Nah it's a thing on the ground too

You can go primary crux on it

[fierce lark]

does it autoaim towards heads?

[nocturne spindle]

Sometimes

[fierce lark]

whack

[nocturne spindle]

You gotta nudge it up a bit

Primary blight is also good, more dmg

[peak pond]

hey

i got a q

[undone dust]

WRONG!! (its base cd is ass and archgun cd mods suck)

[coral crest]

It's like Strun. Beam aims center mass but will behave like a hose if you struggle with it and aim at the head more precisely

[fierce lark]

this is a 0 forma build lol

1 forma is probably worth to run 120% heat though

[undone dust]

strun is a nuclear bomb not a beam

[fierce lark]

do you mean boar? strun shoots bombs

[coral crest]

Oh right

Boar I mean boar

I keep confusing these two

[fierce lark]

overframe doesn't have arcane slots for archguns but pretend there's crux enervate

[coral crest]

Underframe does I bet

[undone dust]

crux flare is honestly just significantly better

[coral crest]

I've been using it now exclusively

[abstract bison]

There’s a new primed toxin mod for archgunz

[fierce lark]

oh yeah thats right, it's not on overframe yet lol

[fierce lark]

you think non-crit flare is better than enervate on a chain beam?

[peak pond]

what is the best build for starters

[fierce lark]

this with the primed toxin mod and crux enervate seems like it would be the best build

though not positive, im pretty sure enervate overstacks on chaining weapons

[undone dust]

yes, especially when said chain beam's cd is genuinely horrendous and not even worth thinking about
ive used both setups and honestly crux flare kills much smoother and usually much quicker

if archguns had much better cd mods then yeah, i could understand the method
but where we're at sitting with them right now it kind of blows

[fierce lark]

most companions also have the option of a +1.2x flat cd

i think actually basically every commonly run companion weapon except tazicor can trigger it

but then flare is 480% base dmg on a weapon with no galvanized mods so

[crimson osprey]

Hey, is wukong any good anymore? after the changes to the clones ammo, it jsut seem the clone is incredibly weak and cant survive anymore? health multiplier seems like its just not enough to make it functional

[fierce lark]

okay this with crux flare

or with external viral you could add PRLB somewhere and do crux encumber pure blast

or blast elec

[undone dust]

debilitate encumber is actually surprisingly hilarious

[odd fjord]

which latron should i make for incarnon?

[coral crest]

Prime, for best stats. But normal one can also make it

Can always detach the adapter and reattach it to prime later

Will require to farm the materials again though

[odd fjord]

i mean wraith gives more riven synergy

[coral crest]

I forgot Latron wraith exists

[quaint basin]

How good is a Basmu with a riven?

[quaint basin]

Also Evensong

[crimson osprey]

Can someone explain how tf to play Voruna?

and her augments say one thing, but seem to rely on another ability

[nova swift]

theres two common ways that people play voruna, as a melee fighter and as a pure "caster"

the caster uses ulfrun's endurance to ensure you can keep on using your 4, and you use 1 to buff its damage, stay in stealth and 2 to prime enemies so your 4 can do more damage

your 3 keeps you sustained with equilibrium

the melee version is quite similar but you use the crit buff of your 1 instead and slot something more useful on your 4

the augment for your 1 is kinda nice because you can nuke a map with status effects similar to mecha set with your 2

[coral crest]

The 1 augment works with caster playstyle as well

You just have to pick targets to mark with 2 more carefully to get the most out of it

[versed jasper]

Which one for a mirage exodia contagion build

[nova swift]

theres a funny build where you run around in stealth looking for the marked target. You jump on them a few times to prime them then heavy attack with a weapon that has guaranteed slash proc. Then the map proceeds to die

[versed jasper]

I have kullervos ability on btw

[crimson osprey]

hmm

objectively.. maybe caster sounds more fun

[nova swift]

They can both scale pretty well. I had the caster version hit 5 million slash procs in steel path without a fully built voruna

[coral crest]

Caster can scale even to cap easily

15mil slash dmg and status spread everywhere

And you're always invisible with status immunity

[crimson osprey]

do youy have a link or build for that? id like to look at it

[coral crest]

Very cozy, outside of Nullifiers being your absolute doom

Since 4 cant use weapons

[coral crest]

I can show my current build for her

Full caster

[crimson osprey]

please

[crimson osprey]

id like to get decent with her

[coral crest]

@crimson osprey Flow is not primed because i cant be asked to put extra forma on her

you can probably balance it out differently

since tau purple is a bit of an ask for some ppl

[celest thicket]

I wonder if DE will ever buff some of the older auras like rejuvenation, like 3 hp per sec ? It would take like 20 minutes to get my atlas from 1 hp to max health

[coral crest]

Rebecca said health tanking will get some changes in 2026

maybe we will see something of note on that front

[coral crest]

also reminder that this exists lol

and its an arbi reward

[crimson osprey]

summoners wrath?

[celest thicket]

Lol, even in a full squad its not even 1k armor for the pets

[coral crest]

oh yeah, i run her with a hound

hounds really like it

realistically aura mod is flex for her caster variety

[celest thicket]

Im pretty sure hounds could clear Sp by themselves at this point

[coral crest]

voruna is good for pets since lycath's hunt can spam restorative bond revives

[celest thicket]

I personally like using predasites, still wish the mecha set had better visual clarity

[coral crest]

and support manifold by itself

i kinda thought of running her with mecha set but then realized

she is the mecha set already, i dont need two

[celest thicket]

Yeah lol she is

[coral crest]

her survivability is great without any mods

invis from 1 isnt broken by attacks from 4

her hold 2 is status immunity

and 3 with any form of equilibrium gives you an energy feedback loop

[celest thicket]

I think the mecha set would be much stronger if we could actually see who the pet marked, most of the time im just spraying with my hema or basmu and suddenly the whole room just explodes

And i think to myself "huh i guess i hit the guy"

[coral crest]

on one hand

much less mental tax to treat it like collateral dmg

on the other hand, if they gave it the same energy color mark as Voruna's augment for 1+2

it wouldve been an amazing change

[crimson osprey]

ok ill try it

[coral crest]

have fun!

Voruna's very good, she also gets a prime this year

[celest thicket]

I wonder how many dogs we will be able to equip on her

I kinda disapointed on the efv8 , by the size of the pistol i was expecting a handcannon with a gimmick

But it sounds like a dart gun

[versed jasper]

What's better on mirage, adaption or vitality

That's what I got on rn

[celest thicket]

I personally would say neither because she aint much of a tank

[versed jasper]

I wanna put on equilibrium and hall of malovence

[versed jasper]

?

[celest thicket]

But if i were to choose between those, adaptation

At least its going to affect the shields

[versed jasper]

Sound ty

[celest thicket]

She has the problem of having basically zero armor, so upgrading her health doesnt help, her shields can take more damage than her health

[karmic badger]

Yeah mirage survives on shieldgating

[sudden storm]

anyknow have a mod suggestion to make grattler reload faster when in archwing missions?

[versed jasper]

That's sm I haven't explored ngl, what I need to do that?

[karmic badger]

Brief respite aura mod and/or augur mods

Plus catalyzing shields

Arcane Aegis is a nice to have

[versed jasper]

So what should I swap out? I'm using exodia contagion

[mighty flare]

space missions convert archguns into battery weapons so you can't really make them reload faster
reload speed only shortens the delay before it starts

could run crux and a magazine mod

[versed jasper]

@karmic badger

[karmic badger]

Not familiar with zaw arcanes

[versed jasper]

It's not to do with zaw arcanes( only mentioned it to explain y I have vigarous swap on)

[sudden storm]

i do have a mag mod on it but it only pushes the 30 mag to like 48

[karmic badger]

I mean you should probably swap out vitality and adaptation for catalyzing shields and rolling guard

Maybe drop vig swap for an augur mod? Or fast deflection

[versed jasper]

Vig swap is a huge bonus to my zaw so kinda need it

[karmic badger]

Then drop transient fortitude

[versed jasper]

For auger secrets?

[karmic badger]

Yeah any augur mod, you're looking for the passive that converts energy spent into shields

[mighty flare]

yeah, crux is ur main option to avoid the slow reloading

[karmic badger]

Gonna be a bit tricky to land headshots in archwing

Do archwing enemies even have weakpoints?

[celest thicket]

Does anyone know if combo duration mods on your melee affect the combo duration for the landslide?

[karmic badger]

No, but dexterity Arcanes on your archgun does

[celest thicket]

Does it stack if i have dexterity on my primary and secondary?

Not that i would actually do it, but it would be funny to see how long can it get

[karmic badger]

Yes

Though a bit overkill

Just 2 maxed dexterity on the archgun is 20s

[sudden storm]

ill have to look that up cause im pretty sure i dont have it

[mighty flare]

oh sorry, archwing mission right?
its a bit iffy in those, ur just gonna have to deal with that

[past apex]

Any one here have a good protea build i will gonna make here main for now i just want to make it wort it im gonna spend some plat on this build also

[marsh pond]

what are some good set-and-forget status weapons?

[karmic badger]

For priming? Just use companions

[marsh pond]

to keep up mana mostly

[karmic badger]

To grab energy orbs with that one mod?

[marsh pond]

no clue

very new to building, just running out of mana a lot

[karmic badger]

What's energy economy got to do with status weapons?

[marsh pond]

just what i was recommended, to fill both priming and a few extra kills

[valid cargo]

Can anyone share me a strong arca plasmor tenet build? Please

[magic moth]

Anyone have a build guide for kitguns, part included as well?

[pallid quiver]

Equilibrium 🤩

[fierce lark]

swap cleanse for fire rate, magnetic valence, primary merciless arcane

[mighty flare]

for a particular gun?

[valid cargo]

Fortunately my arca has a magnetic progenitor

[slim sedge]

how in the world do yall make the sirocco do so much damage

[karmic badger]

We don't, the drifter makes all amps look like siroccos

The operator also gets a sirocco styled Amp skin

[granite atlas]

Guys, I think I found the best Styanax build....

[glossy cloak]

so I have a bit of a headscratcher, at what point is it too much ability strength for nekros using shield of shadows and despoil? I think 300 is possible but is it worth?

for reference I am at 257 and only have a purple shard put on, was thinking about jacking it with more reds or blues.

[sullen vessel]

Shield of shadows caps at 90% and with like 7 shadows I think then you reach that cap with just 210% ability strength or so.

[glossy cloak]

but do the regular multipliers stop for the shadows?

I know it caps at 90 with 7 at just 210 strength but I want them to be able to do more damage, and I think at 300 it should be fine or close to 300

[undone sluice]

what would be the best progen for kuva ogris

[magic current]

How big of a difference in damage is 13 corrosive stacks compared to 14, 98% vs 100% armor strip?

[magic current]

214% is the cap in which you'd get 90% DR, 167% is the minimum for armor strip with terrify , and strength doesn't affect desecrate at all with despoil being affected by efficiency. Theres no reason to go super high strength unless you want to subsume roar onto soul punch

[high turtle]

How much health does a level cap 9999 thrax have?

Is there an exact number

[glossy cloak]

I'm asking if this is worth the strength increase man

[mystic canyon]

is it possible to make skana good with a good riven or is it just cope

[glossy cloak]

I know it scales with strength, hell I can run nekros at SP and do alright

[glossy cloak]

imo prisma skana is the go to move

[mystic canyon]

ooh nice ty

[glossy cloak]

granted this riven is a bit nuts but it gets the job done

[magic current]

Not really, afaik the most significant damage increase for shadows is worthy comradery and then external stuff like roar and viral damage

[glossy cloak]

I'll keep tweaking on it tbh, trying to jack the health as much as I can on nekros tbh for fun. it kinda works but I been toying with the idea of arcane camisado as well.

I can get like 2200 ehp on him as is mind you and that gets me to 35 percent on arcane bellicose.

[spiral chasm]

Hp only? I think its like 25m. OG and armor probably 100m

[high turtle]

What about over guard

They have more overguard then health

[spiral chasm]

Yeah i think its twice their hp

[high turtle]

Ohh

[spiral chasm]

I could be wrong but its around there

[high turtle]

I tryed looking on the wiki the calculator didn't work

Also i figured out uriel can do 90600 damage every 0.5 seconds with brimstone 609% ability strength if i did the math correctly

Full team needs power donation tho and sling strenth from maduri

[spiral chasm]

Yeah 600% requires setup

You could also use nidus spectre

[nova ridge]

best stats for a furis riven? didnt know i had one and im just getting its incarnon

[rare lichen]

multishot, crit damage and fire rate or heat dmg, base damage too

you'd do so much heat procs that they die on the first tick

[neon dawn]

does this seem good for what i got

the first image is the wrong one*

[viscid bane]

Would going for Pure heat + Hotshot build or Pure electric + Melee influence be better for Excal build?

[magic current]

I mean with what you have yeah? But it's like just ok

[neon dawn]

i see, got a recomendation to improve it or would you leave it where its at till i get more mods?

[magic current]

Aside from just maxing out streamline, fast deflection, and your drift mods? Not really. You just lack too much stuff rn

I guess if you have a vitality and an armor mod use that cause you do want some basic survivability

[orchid bane]

help with cedo prime build for lvl cap

[neon dawn]

alr, tyy

[magic current]

Np, I'd say don't worry too much about builds rn until you have all the corrupted mods and other important stuff, just focus on being able to survive level 30-40 enemies

[viscid bane]

I can give you some basic mods if you want

[neon dawn]

rlly?? thatd be super cool!!

[viscid bane]

I'll DM you my IGN

[neon dawn]

okeeee

[sly heart]

Anyone got a build for Styanax? I feel a bit weak damage wise on him.

[magic current]

I'm assuming this is the case but just to double check, the +ability damage emerald shard is redundant on saryn spores right?

[fierce lark]

redundant in the sense that they're not worth an archon shard slot, sure

the spores will do % more damage, but they won't grow any faster

[magic current]

Ok so I'm probably just gonna do +3 corrosive stacks and then 4 +toxin damage for toxic lash

And I think that's as good as it gets

[fierce lark]

you can do a cast speed shard for minor qol with whatever's in your 4

[magic current]

Is there anything aside from roar that's a good 4 subsume?

Cause I will prob do that for roar

[fierce lark]

roar is definitely the best, but xata's/nourish are always an option

expedite suffering is a funny way to kill demolishers

[magic current]

Btw is 14 corrosive stacks better for level cap or is there realistically no difference between 13 and 14

[fierce lark]

there is no practical difference

you get more damage out of +tox shard in the 2nd slot

[magic current]

Ok sick, thanks

[timber pagoda]

Would calibans 4 be the best subsume for roar so that precision intensify can be used? or would his 2 be a better slot so that i can keep the armor strip

[latent adder]

4 is better to subsume over because you could potentially just partial strip with corrosive and many enemies dont even have armor, but dont use precision intensify since umbral boosts 2 and 3 as well

[timber pagoda]

gotcha, thanks

[velvet pulsar]

What's the ideal roll for verglas riven?

CC and MS with some harmless negative?

Mine's CC CD FR no negative

[midnight horizon]

Is the Harrow + Arcane Ice Storm good or is it just people over hyping a bug?

[velvet pulsar]

It's both

Basically u gotta proc that arcane by animation locking enemies and then damaging enemies

[midnight horizon]

So the Arcane only procs if Condemn visually locks down the enemy?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes but u also have to damage that enemy

Condemn doesn't damage them, just locks them.

So first lock then shoot

[midnight horizon]

Shouldn't be that much of a problem I suppose.

Since I would be locking down enemies solely to farm headshots.

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that's not a big problem

[midnight horizon]

I could also probably run Arcane Concentration on him.

[coral crest]

Concentration is great to set up 4 on him

[floral sky]

Obviously they all need maxing out but is there any mods i should swap on my regaulators as i wsnt to get as higher crit as possible

[mellow oxide]

anyone got build for nikana?

[karmic badger]

Arcane hotshot and orange shards

[floral sky]

Yh i dony have either of those yet 😂

[karmic badger]

That's about the only remaining crit boosts

Well, arcane avenger too

[floral sky]

Is there anything youd swap vitality or rolling guard as using vitality to increase my ability strength more as i dont have transient fortitude or focused intensify

[karmic badger]

Mesa's HP is too low for arcane bellicose, molt augmented is better

And to be frank, 200% power strength is enough, you're more interested in crit and fire rate boosts

[floral sky]

Im using molt vigor as its the best one i currently have i need to farm a lot 😂

[karmic badger]

Well, 243% power strength technically

[floral sky]

My strength is 254 😂

[karmic badger]

At this point firepower isn't your issue, it's going to be energy sustain and survivability

Secondary fortifier on regulators let's you steal overguard while going brrr

Or arcane circumvent to steal it by rolling

[floral sky]

Im using cascadia flare atm as was planning or using mostly orange shards and getting primed heat charge for the extra damage boost

[karmic badger]

Cascadia flare can be put on your secondary, you don't need it on your regulators

[floral sky]

Does it apply to regulators if on my secondary

[karmic badger]

Heck as long as your companion is doing heat damage it'll activate

[karmic badger]

Ye

[floral sky]

Oh nice i didnt know that

[karmic badger]

Arcanes are funky

Spaghetti code and whatnot

[floral sky]

Would it work if used a melee arcane and secondary outburst or would fortify be better

[karmic badger]

Fortifier makes survivability easy, its good QOL

Also, if you got an archgun with arcane slots available, you could put the outburst arcanes on that

[floral sky]

So other than the boost from prime mods when i get them is this good if everything was maxed level

[karmic badger]

Yeah pretty much

[floral sky]

Cool thanks for the info

[floral sky]

My primary secondary and i think diriga currently all do heat damage

[karmic badger]

Ye that'll work

[floral sky]

Does this apply to regulators or just melee

[karmic badger]

Melee

[wet shard]

You can also add Cascadia on your archgun to free up your secondary

[karmic badger]

I just put both dexteritys for 20s of combo

Statsticks are dead, long live statsticks

[floral sky]

Im just trying to max out my damage output as much as possible cause i like seeing big numbers 😂

[prime lava]

guys should i go for full crit dread incarnon or crit head dread incarnon?
for reference, i can get like roughly 500% crit chance and 8.35x crit damage on my full crit build

[icy seal]

Has someone interesting idea? How Nidus prime can break down enemies with his own skills? Not only gun-platform or immortality. Maybe some funny synergy with helminth ability...

[versed yarrow]

Be I have no idea how to build xaku or if she needs an augment

I’m intrested in her play style but I find her a bit complex

[mellow nimbus]

Anyone know what's the team comp for the Mega Stella farm in the current EDA assassination?
Some said using limbo so the boss doesn't die and you can farm Stella endlessly.

[crimson osprey]

Feels pretty good actually- energy is the only issue- i put on a single puple shard atm, and arcane energize.. i need a little more energy

[coral crest]

If you use primed flow it might get better

I just can't be asked lol

[coral crest]

Do you have synth deconstruct on your pet?

[glass rampart]

Their play style isn't that hard, really. Tap 2, then tap 4. Then use Gaze on an enemy once their ability strength is high enough (assuming you're nodding for range and compensating that strength using molt augmented). Recast their 4 before the duration runs out

[coral crest]

It might help you quite a lot of you have at least one shard

If you want to swap one of the two arcanes for energize, then it's gotta be molt instead of impetus, since molt gives efficiency

[idle swan]

Here’s a fun meme build, it’s dumb but I still think it could be dumber. What should I add?

[coral crest]

For me with two tau equilibrium shards it's enough to just upkeep 2 and 1 indefinitely by activating her 3 and killing enemies with her 4

Despite 4 being an ability, it triggers lycath's hunt melee orb drop

[glass rampart]

Oh voruna builds discussion?

Im a Voruna main :)

[coral crest]

Trying to help the person get a caster playstyle going

[glass rampart]

I see

Not my type of play style on voruna personally. Never liked her 4

[idle swan]

Isn’t voruna a close to a prime?

[glass rampart]

Either next one or after styanax, yes

[coral crest]

Supposedly if the pattern keeps going

[idle swan]

W, been wanting to try her out

[coral crest]

Styanax -> Voruna -> Kullervo -> Citrine

[glass rampart]

She is very fun as a melee nuking Warframe

[idle swan]

WE DO NO NEED 3 melee frames in 1 year

[glass rampart]

I just assumed the pattern was male-male-female-female

[coral crest]

It has been different for a while now actually

[glass rampart]

Darn

[coral crest]

Now it's m-f-m-f

[idle swan]

I this point they just pick 4 and then pick one that matches well with their dev timeline I think

[coral crest]

Lavos -> Yareli -> Caliban -> Gyre

Were last year

[glass rampart]

I do not want to farm another Kullervo to feed to my helminth

So I guess I'll have to wait for that wrathful advance subsume on Voruna

[idle swan]

That’s why I bought him for 375 plat

[glass rampart]

I don't buy warframes with plat

[idle swan]

I usually don’t but my reasoning is I can grind plat and buy him or grind him

[coral crest]

Kullervo Prime will probably be extremely popular. Im unironically expecting him to be along the big ones like Titania, Gauss and Revenant

He's easy, he does a lot of damage, he is very tough to kill

[idle swan]

Make a top 10 Warframe easier to get? Heck yea he’s gonna be a popular kid

[glass rampart]

My big 3 right now are Gauss, Voruna, and Valkyr

I do not like kullervo

I think he's a little lame

[gaunt minnow]

How would i build ember?

[coral crest]

The only things that keep Kullervo relatively unpopular are that he doesn't have a prime and that his normal farm is duviri

[idle swan]

I think caster is the only valid way rn

[coral crest]

Once he gets out of that cage he'll be everywhere and for a long while

[glass rampart]

Sorry correction, Gauss, Voruna, Uriel

[glass rampart]

Really? Isnt fireball infusion + immolation a good build for a weapons platform?

[crimson osprey]

I do not, I gotta look at whst I do have on my hound. Thematically id love to use a kubrow for a new wolf pack but id lose the archon mods

[glass rampart]

I see the perrserker, I like it

[coral crest]

Huh? You won't lose archon mods

[idle swan]

That’s more casting imo

I’m very opened minded tho

[coral crest]

Voruna's 2 inflicts random statuses

They'll enable archon stretch and continuity

[crimson osprey]

Arent the archon mods only triggering duebto the hounds attacks?

[coral crest]

No, they're from abilities. And hound abilites are, uh, abilities

[glass rampart]

No, the archon mods proc from your 2 as well

[gaunt minnow]

Really? 💔

[crimson osprey]

Lemme look again

[coral crest]

Her 2 will also eventually give you full-ish impetus stacks

[idle swan]

Invest enough into any frame and it’s valid, it just depends on how much work you wanna put in. Qorvex is one of my top 3 investment Warframe.

[crimson osprey]

all i have on is archon stretch and theres nothign in any of vorunas abilities to suggest electrical procs

[coral crest]

Qorvex is fine but he needs like 5 times the investment to do what a bunch of frames don't even need archon shards for...

[coral crest]

Read what her 2 does

[crimson osprey]

5 randoms?

[glass rampart]

This is our build right now (dreamers bond is a placeholder currently) and as for arcanes, it's impetus and crepuscular as I am running a melee attack build

[coral crest]

5 random stacks, electricity is one of them

[crimson osprey]

why not archon continuity as well? if its random get those to proc?

[idle swan]

Respectfully disagree

But also still agree

[glass rampart]

Yes all archon mods benefit off of it

[idle swan]

He’s in a weird spot rn

[crimson osprey]

neat

[severe bough]

Voruna prime soon

[coral crest]

People like to hype up Qorvex or call him useless, but let's be realistic. He isn't bad bad, he just needs a lot more investment than others

[severe bough]

after staynax at least

[glass rampart]

It is why I do not want to invest too much in her right now

Voruna this summer...

Also the fact that Gyre and Gyre prime don't even come with extra polarity does not fill me with confidence about her

[idle swan]

All they need to do is build one of the augments into his kit, give him a more meaningful passive and fix the grouping on his wall.

Thats all I want tbf

[severe bough]

Harmony voruna prime soon

[crimson osprey]

well thankfully ive had her for awhile, just shelved her

[coral crest]

Mfw what nova umbral said was similar opinions and people crucified him

[glass rampart]

Voruna + Corufell

[severe bough]

True

[crimson osprey]

im very picky with frames..

[idle swan]

This guy on yt: koolkid got fried for sharing his thoughts too

[coral crest]

Personally I think Qorvex needs an augment that turns him into a heat frame against enemies that reach max radiation procs

[crimson osprey]

im using sun and moon currently with Voruna, i wanted to use wolf sldege, but throwing weapons are clunky, and hammers just never quite felt good

[coral crest]

It would make his damage ramp up much more efficient but will also keep the work needed in line

[gaunt minnow]

Tracking that, pretty sure volt and the stropha are my things with the most investment

[idle swan]

Sounds awesome, I hope they add a real augment and not a bandaid one next

[coral crest]

You'd still need the pillars and speeding their pulses up will become worth it

[glass rampart]

Corufell Voruna is probably the funniest build

[hexed lodge]

It would be nice if DE implemented this, we already have a combined element proccing another basic element (magnetic to electric)

[coral crest]

Qorvex is one damage status away from becoming great

Just look at Nokko, he literally stole Qorvex's gameplan

But he has toxin so he is killing everything

[glass rampart]

Primary debilitate

[idle swan]

I think augments are good to test if a new system for a frame is balanced but they just need to actually add the things to there’s kits

[coral crest]

Sorry mod tax

You are paying it

[idle swan]

Like a busted fram doesn’t need it in there kid but like frost? Come on give him something to work with

[glass rampart]

Uriel is perfect in that regard

[crimson osprey]

maybe i shoujld try the thalys with Vorunba

[glass rampart]

:)

[coral crest]

Uriel has a bit too much

[idle swan]

He’s little guys also have a few problems

[coral crest]

He's too functional

[glass rampart]

They killed World on Fire and gave Uriel that times a hundred