builds-discussion

[velvet pulsar]

I became MR 30 on 31st December

[barren orbit]

i need me a honda civic not a porsche 911 for daily use/any missions

okay im rambling on i hope my points across 😭

[velvet pulsar]

So yeah MR is just a grind

[fierce lark]

this is what i put together quickly just for farming poe for aya

i have blue archon shards for max energy (just as filler because we get thousands of them for some reason), assuming no shards run flow/primed flor instead of intensify

[barren orbit]

yeah this looks really good

[fierce lark]

range is very optional for buffing teammates, if you don't care abou that then drop stretch for narrow minded

[barren orbit]

range really doesn't matter that much for volt unless your nuking no?

[fierce lark]

if you're doing no helminth (you probably are at mr4) then you can drop catalyzing shields and auger message for capacitance and something else

[velvet pulsar]

Also they used 1000 Oxylus Primes to plant new ||xenoflora|| which were grown by ||Hunhow|| on UrAnus.

[barren orbit]

okay

[barren orbit]

like if you were asked to use volt without knowing what the mission is gonna be and just a build that'd work for anything, is this what you would use

[fierce lark]

this is what i ended up with for that purpose more or less, yeah

with the caveat being range is not helpful for you, only for teammates

so if you don't care about team buff then drop it entirely

[barren orbit]

yeah i think we can both agree my build isn't the most versatile it's sort of eso/defense missions only, although i appreciate the help alot

[fierce lark]

volt nuke probably falls off in damage very quickly if you start doing anything base sp and beyond

[barren orbit]

so is this build good to go?

[barren orbit]

oh i'm aware we'll get there when we get there i have alot waiting for me until then

[fierce lark]

you have the 265 range eso nuke build going

[barren orbit]

alrightt sounds good i just gotta get prime volt and i'm ready

[gray quarry]

Sadly

[velvet pulsar]

What about Uriel's 4?

What's the lvl limit

[spiral chasm]

67

[velvet pulsar]

Mods fragor this player!

[steady stirrup]

Does nokko's ball keep working end game? I only just got sp so it works rn but will it continue to work well as long as the builds good?

[gray quarry]

MODS BAN THIS PLAYER

[gray quarry]

Yes

[steady stirrup]

Ok, do i basically just build into strength as much as possible?

[fierce lark]

9999

[gray quarry]

I don’t think so, I don’t remember what you build into

[steady stirrup]

Ok, ill just try to find a build somewhere, ty

[fierce lark]

uriel can nuke up to levelcap pretty easily

(presumably)

i'll actually have a run get that far one day and find out

[quiet laurel]

yesn't

technically its like 10002

[mighty flare]

:3

[near vortex]

void fissures can go up to 10005 or something
I don't know the actual number

[quiet laurel]

:

[brittle sleet]

Believe void fissures raise enemy level by 3 so 1002 should be correct

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[brittle sleet]

Range is your primary stat to invest into for Nokko, strength secondary, then duration

Buffs refresh pretty regularly so duration isn't huge to invest in, plus mushroom timers freeze while in sprodling form trying to revive

His 4 scales like crazy so letting it hit more enemies does more than strength will, but building into Crepusclar and other crit damage boosts is still advisable

[steady stirrup]

Ok so the arcanes and range are the important bit

[fierce lark]

i thought i did a cascade fissure that ended at 9999, i don’t recall seeing any 10000s

[acoustic bluff]

Some corrupted can hit 10001

[fierce lark]

maybe i was only seeing grineer

and thrax

[obtuse locust]

Hey gamers, I’m just done coping an equinox build that I stole from the data base, any recommendations to make it better?

[languid oxide]

can i get a room clear build for xoris possibly?

[viscid bane]

Would Blast be better on Vinquibis since it's one tap weapon so itcould AoE?

[cobalt yoke]

Decent or nah? Also, my Umbra is just decoration nowadays. And, not to mention, I don't have shards unlocked for any of my Warframes.

[brittle sleet]

Gas refreshes its passive is why people use it

[languid oxide]

@viscid bane doesnt the -3 bounce from volatile quick return defeat the purpose?

[viscid bane]

Right now I'm rocking the ol' relibalble Viral/Heat but having second thoughts

[viscid bane]

Nope. manually explode it for forced electric and melee infuelnce. Big bang one shots everything

Volatile Quick Return is what makes glaives so good

[viscid bane]

That's a very weird build. But I guess it can do the job. Here's mine that does absolutely wonderfully on anything

[cobalt yoke]

I have another one that is pure toxin damage. But, this is intriguing.

[viscid bane]

Subsume Wrathful Advance. It's sooooo good

[cobalt yoke]

No, and I can't. I don't have the helminth stuff fully unlocked. I am one of those people that's been playing since the glory days of void keys. Thus, I am a little old fashioned.

[viscid bane]

Same, took me a while to get used to Subsumes. I'm way to used to OG kits and it's kinda hard to let them go

[gusty plume]

anyone got an SP viable xaku build

[cobalt yoke]

Eh, I was very hesitant on the galvanized mods. But, I might only try out the shards for more ability strength or survivability. Rather than use the subsumes. Unless, I'm going to be using certain frames that absolutely needs to have their abilities changed.

[rocky aurora]

Galvanized are some of the biggest DPS increases you can get

[viscid bane]

I was the same untilI saw a friend of mine showcasing the big red numbers on excal and i was like

Made me realize I was just old man yelling at clouds

[rocky aurora]

And imo going viral on exalted blade is a meme. Just prime or use Nourish, pure electric is better. 2 free slots for range + blood rush

Red crit doesnt automatically mean more damage, either. Like, I can make a burston red crit and it'll still easily lose to a yellow crit furis

Wrathful is really nice for upfront damage tho

[viscid bane]

Ye but red numbers make my brain release the funny chemicals

[rocky aurora]

Just change your damage color to red 😆

[viscid bane]

It's not the same

[fierce lark]

same glaive but slightly different

[barren orbit]

what do i do against the eximus enemies with a volt build

[fringe magnet]

Any opinions on what archon shards I should be throwing on Lavos? So far I have 1 emerald

[wanton coral]

Things that help with casting. Energy, casting speed, I think.

[fringe magnet]

Lavos doesn’t use energy…

[wanton coral]

Oh, got it mixed up with Dante. Sorry. Don't know why.

[fringe magnet]

No worries lolz

[mighty flare]

duration, casting speed, parkour velocity

[fringe magnet]

So the bonus toxic damage from the emerald is kinda meh?

[mighty flare]

yea

[wanton coral]

Bonus toxic damage is probably not the best choice from the emerald shard.

Extra corrosive stacks, however... those are good.

[hoary oak]

Is it possible to kill yourself with Combat Discipline?

[mighty flare]

not really, but better than toxin damage

[fringe magnet]

What abt bonus damage on enemies affected by corrosive?

I’m already running archon continuity

[mighty flare]

don't need them either, and rather run duration cuz it makes gas catalyze kill for longer

[fringe magnet]

Okok so I gotta dig up 2 tauforged reds, get another green, and then a yellow for casting speed

[cobalt yoke]

Red crits are horrible if not done correctly. No offense.

Because if I wanted to build for crits I would. A crit build is overly used on damaged frames. And, as you can tell. My Excal, is built for status chance rather than crits. Which is why I built him the way I did. But, each their own. Everyone makes their builds work in different ways.

[coral crest]

Glorious 7000!!!

[fringe magnet]

Status is way better than crit as someone who started the game building crit

||plus secondary enervate kinda defeats the purpose of really building crit imho||

[undone dust]

eh there are some cases where crit/raw damage is better than status

usually against boss hp bar enemies that are status capped

or just boss hp bar enemies in general

[fringe magnet]

This is why I have my kuva nukor set up to be a primer and an enemy melter

[coral crest]

Until you fight a true boss

[fringe magnet]

Shhhhhh we’ll cross that bridge when we get there (I have made it to steel path with no issues thus far)

[undone dust]

acolytes really arent much of an issue with status weapons anymore tbh, it's just bosses like fractured and other hard mode shit

[undone dust]

well theyre not that hard unless you're doing cap, they get a bit annoying to deal with when they're in the 200s

[fringe magnet]

Yeah the acolytes haven’t really been too much of an issue for me tbh, I found I died more when I was playing mesa as my main frame vs now with Titania and Lavos

[coral crest]

removal of their dmg cap made them a lot easier

[drowsy herald]

Yeah if you made a doodoo build. I died to it testing it out

[drowsy herald]

Any squishy frame can become swiss cheese with acolytes if you can't keep your distance haha. Specially the valkyr one, the one which turns off your abilities and the one which has nyx's abilities

I think nyx idk. The one which makes your damage kill yourself

[cobalt yoke]

What would be good to have on a Despair Riven, so I can sell it?

[cobalt yoke]

I might have an extra. I would have to look.

That's if someone hasn't given you one yet.

[wild tundra]

no one yet q.q

[cobalt yoke]

You can have mine. I don't use it anymore on anything.

Just DM me your IGN

[wild tundra]

omg thank you q.q

i cant dm you .v.

[outer flame]

Hi! I'm looking for a good build for Ignis Wraith or Plasmor Arca. I'm not sure which one to use first.

[fierce lark]

plasmor

ignis wraith sucks don't use it

[outer flame]

Ty :D

[barren orbit]

What are some fun war frames that are good but not brain dead easy

[hushed harbor]

Gyre

[signal blade]

Dagath underrated

[barren orbit]

Khoras diversity isn’t talked abt enough

[barren orbit]

Okay I’ll look into it

[high mauve]

What are the best Kuva weapons? The best there are? I'm Mastery 28.

[signal blade]

Nukor is top 3

Get that one first if you dont have it

[high mauve]

i have yeah

I tried the Bassocyst Coda, but my Torid Incarnon does a much better job.

[cyan lotus]

Is there not a Sevagoth build out there that subsume off his Exalted?

[pastel agate]

I got arcane battery for atlas but is it good on Kullevro? Not sure if it scales with his huge over guard or not

Admittedly haven’t thought about spamming Kullevro abilities but I guess I got the mod that lets his knife storm circle warp with him whenever he does his teleport melee so I guess that could be powerful

[cyan lotus]

I can check

[fierce lark]

if torid is your point of comparison, you're at the ceiling

as far as non-boss enemies go, nothing is going to compare

[pastel agate]

Thanks, not sure what the battery counts as “armor” or not

[fierce lark]

armor is armor

arcane battery just reads whatever your current armor is and adds 30% of it as energy, up to 1k energy

[high mauve]

My problem is this: tough bosses like the tank in 1999. What weapons can kill them quickly? I've seen people take down their entire health bar in seconds.

[pastel agate]

Oh I see

Then it probably works then

[barren orbit]

Took the build I made to eso

[cyan lotus]

So, it doesn’t work with overguard. Overguard imitates health iirc, think of it as shields. Arcane Battery does not change with OG value. It bases it’s buff on current armour value

[feral trench]

Are Cyte-09's weapons good to use with him for steel path or should I go for different weapons?

[cyan lotus]

Luckily Kullervo has decent armour and is a health tank

[barren orbit]

Hard carried 3 lr2s

Thanks for the tips

[pastel agate]

Oh dang ok

Well I guess I could try using it anyway for the extra energy if I don’t really have anything else that really works

[cyan lotus]

Kullervo has high enough armour to get value out of it anyway, so I guess it frees up a slot

[fierce lark]

most bosses nowadays don't really have attenuation anymore, so anything with high dps or high damage works against bosses

lex, furis, burston, coda torxica, dual toxocyst, phenmor/felarx/laetum, vinq when it's stacked, cedo, strun/quanta vandal/kuva nukor if the target can take statuses, latron, hema or basmu with the new augments

[cyan lotus]

I only have R2 Battery, but it still gave me an additional 100 energy with his base armour

Now, how do I build Sevagoth? I know he basically requires two augments and everything I’ve seen always subsumes off his 4. I know it’s less investment heavy, but that’s what makes him unique

[fierce lark]

the reconifex? im pretty sure it's actually worse when used by cyte

iirc the reconifex reload perk counts as a heat imbue, which overrides cyte's resupply imbue

[feral trench]

What about the Vesper 77?

[fierce lark]

it's not an amazing gun in either case

cyte loves guns that are high dps potential but are limited by ammo issues, resupply negates those issues

kuva bramma, kuva ogris, kuva zarr, tenet envoy(i think?), acceltra prime, possibly some throwables like the coda pox

[feral trench]

Ah, yeah that makes sense

[cyan lotus]

Despite being Cyte’s weapon it doesnt actually have a benefit when wielded by him. And yeah, the reload overrides his current resupply element

So it’s worse on him despite being his gun. Funny 😂

[fierce lark]

or guns that have to spend disproportionate amounts of time reloading

like the AX52 aiming mode

vesper is alright on him, he wants headshots, vesper augment wants headshots, he can do gas resupply with the augment to make giga gas clouds

[summer trout]

what should i build braton prime for?

[fierce lark]

same build, if you have external fire rate and want to use it against high level demolishers you can swap shred for elementalist, if you don't have primed shred run vile acceleration

im not sure about the consensus of galv aptitude on braton p, it's probably good if you aren't using channels for the 2nd evo and probably really bad if you are

i should run a calc at some point to figure out what's actually better between serration and hellfire but im pretty sure it's serration

[pastel agate]

Well guess I’ll run it and figure out how to grind arcane fury cause it seems like straightforward melee damage boosting

[fierce lark]

you just missed the operation to grind eidolon arcanes

[cyan lotus]

There’s no harm in running it. Also, unlucky for you. I’m pretty sure Arcane Fury was in one of the recent operations

Still struggling on how to build Sevagoth

Like, he’s such a demanding frame in literally every aspect but Ive only got so much to work with

[pastel agate]

Dang

Warframe market I need you

[cyan lotus]

He needs a little bit of every stat kinda, he needs survivability

[summer trout]

thx alot g

[cyan lotus]

Max rank will run ya like 70 plat

[pastel agate]

Yeah alright

Gotta make use of the tons of platinum I bought with a login 75% coupon lol

I also have like one arcane fury at one rank and two unranked

I genuinely don’t remember where I got them from

[near vortex]

Sobek

[fierce lark]

random eidolon hunts perhaps

[woeful gyro]

Need opinions! My assumption is right but I’m not good enough at this yet.

[fierce lark]

take right, slot it in place of malignant force and slot in radiated reload somewhere

[fierce lark]

apparently hellfire actually is better, fascinating

[coral notch]

if I run this with molecular fission + neutron star (which i dont have yet) on nova would this all work well or nah? would cunning drift be better? i really suck at building

[versed jasper]

What's a good companion for priming?

[fierce lark]

diriga

or literally anything with duplex bond and a tazicor

(always have manifold bond as well)

[nocturne spindle]

I'd say duration is a bit more important than range when it comes to nova

[karmic badger]

yeah, her 4 scales on duration

[bronze bay]

How should I optimize my Strun build? Second screen has the riven details.

Also the total damage might be out of wack because my Zephyr has a primary damage invigoration.

[fierce lark]

you should probably reroll the riven, it's worse than primed ravage

[nocturne spindle]

Yea maybe try for multishot

[bronze bay]

Really? Even with the slash and status duration?

Okay, I'll start rolling it

[fierce lark]

status duration is useless outside of expedite effects, and +slash only affects the slash damage itself, it doesn't affect slash status damage and doesn't scale your other elements

gun also really wants primed charged shell

over say magnetic strafe

[bronze bay]

Got one that was dmg, status chance and duration, but it halved damage to Grineer which would really bite for status since would double dip in a bad way

[versed jasper]

U got a build for it?

[fierce lark]

you aren't even getting fire rate from strafe because of cannonade, so magnetic strafe is just a 60% magnetic mod that you've slotted instead of a 165% electricity mod, and magnetic does no status damage outside of shields

status chance is a really really good roll on the strun but -grineer is pretty terrible yeah

[fierce lark]

do you care about reinforced/tenacious bond buffs or nah

[midnight lichen]

what are good primary and secondaries to use with Kullervo? Trying to build my full load-out

I'd love to use Rauta but man it's kind of ass lmao

[nocturne spindle]

Here's my strun and it's riven (it does have a lotta forma invested but it's something to shoot for)

Arcane is shotgun vendetta

[versed jasper]

Idk what they do tbh so no🤷‍♂️

[bronze bay]

Been rolling, left or right?

[fierce lark]

reinforced bond is +60% fire rate if your companion has 1200+ max shields, possible with wyrm/nautilus prime, kubrows, panzers and predasites, moas and hounds

[versed jasper]

Btw is there a resourceful retriever mod for robotics?

[versed jasper]

Nah I'm using kullervo lol

[fierce lark]

right is crazy good vs grineer and fine otherwise

tenacious bond is +1.2x to your crit damage, requires the weapon be 50% crit chance or higher

[versed jasper]

Crit dmg to me or companion?

[fierce lark]

to you

[versed jasper]

I need that

[fierce lark]

best option would be diriga with a burst laser prime

[nocturne spindle]

Yea kullervo would love tenacious

[versed jasper]

Already have like 16x

[fierce lark]

do you have prisma burst laser or burst laser prime?

[versed jasper]

Got a build? cause idk how to build companions lol

[versed jasper]

Got burst laser prime

[bronze bay]

Going to miss the critical damage, but the base amount is now notably higher.

[fierce lark]

one sec

[fierce lark]

i would probably still roll it just because the faction damage is often a dead stat and -mag capacity is a little annoying, but it's actually worth slotting for now unlike your last one

[bronze bay]

Yeah, and technically my damage did go down after assuming 100% crit and rolling the damage into it.

[fierce lark]

also lol i just relized you were using debilitate

[bronze bay]

Should I not be?

[fierce lark]

strun is probably one of the only guns where it might be a decent option

that said, it will suffer in incarnon form probably

debilitate can only proc once per instance of damage, even if that damage instance triggers multiple status effects

[bronze bay]

Oh

[fierce lark]

and since your only combined element is viral, half of your viral procs are gonna apply a cold status anyways, which is pretty worthless

[bronze bay]

Incarnon applies blast too

[fierce lark]

what's the blast weighting?

[nocturne spindle]

Debilitate is best used on beam weapons to my knowledge

[fierce lark]

debilitate is worst used on beam weapons, because they condense your multishot into a single damage instance which really suffers from the aforementioned issue

[nocturne spindle]

Torid incarnon, glaxion, phantasma etc

[bronze bay]

The weighing is off now that I have charged shell

[versed jasper]

So wait if my crit dmg is 16.8 does tenacious bond make that 18x?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[versed jasper]

Holy

[fierce lark]

if you have that much crit damage tenacious is actually probably not impactful at all

[bronze bay]

Should I swap elementalist or cannonade with Galv savy?

[versed jasper]

I have 15.6 actually

But like 700% cc with kullervos ability so it is a good bit more dmg

[nocturne spindle]

I'd say elementalist

[fierce lark]

yeah i think im not buying into the debilitate strun, would rather still use merciless

especially with a negative reload speed riven

or negative mag size rather*

[bronze bay]

Funnily enough elementalist counters the mag size.

[fierce lark]

galv savvy doesn't apply any damage to the incarnon aoe radial damage, not ideal

it's good if you like incarnoff mode

but i wouldn't swap elementalist for it

[versed jasper]

Yo saryn did u have a build for diriga and the weapon for priming? And is it like big aoe status or not?

[nocturne spindle]

Forgot my strun doesn't use savvy either oops

[fierce lark]

animal instinct, sacrifice and spare parts are all QoL mods you can add instead of tenacious bond and electro pulse if you'd like (electro pulse can trigger influence so i'd keep it)

burst laser build

[bronze bay]

Is this better than the left option?

That's viral in one mod.

[fierce lark]

that is certainly something

no negative kinda sucks

it can't be understated how nice +rls is on incarnons, especially low capacity ones like the strun

the problem with it being 1 slot viral is that the strun actually wants the status chance from the 60/60 mods

so i dont actually think you can slot this

[bronze bay]

-fr on this would also be fine because of cannonade.

I've continued rolling

[fierce lark]

fire rate, recoil, zoom, impact/slash/puncture, damage to infested, ammo max

all good negatives

[bronze bay]

Cold crit and damage. But I don't know if that's better than what I've got already

[vagrant anvil]

Im using this roll at the moment for mine

[fierce lark]

the unfortunate thing about these rolls is strun being a very status-focused weapon means adding elemental damage that isn't electricity means you get less electricity procs, which is where most of your damage comes from

so it's kinda hard to take cold/toxin on a riven unless it also comes with status chance and can replace one of the two

[bronze bay]

Alright, I'll keep rolling. It's why I've got 1.4mill Kuva.

[vagrant anvil]

Wtf

Hoarding

[bronze bay]

Oh I've had much more in the past. I accumulate Kuva passively whenever I binge warframe.

[vagrant anvil]

Im always broke on kuva hahaha

[bronze bay]

Oh my

[versed jasper]

So does the build effect a large amount of enemies at once? Tryna make it so condition overload is basically a passive for my zaw

[fierce lark]

this is the only riven i have for a gun i actually use, and the roll is usable, so i get to hoard all my kuva smile

[vagrant anvil]

This looks very good

[fierce lark]

you'd think so wouldn't you

[bronze bay]

Oh, from this tone are you saying the heat is a downside because of combining?

[fierce lark]

would maybe need more expert opinion but i think heat just kills it fully

unless you wanted to do something funny like gas strun

if it were any other element i wouldn't think twice about it

[fierce lark]

arc coil zaps enemies, manifold bond makes arc coil apply every single status on the gun to that enemy

so it is perfect for CO

[vagrant anvil]

Unveiled a riven got this one
I don't even plan on playing it as I dont really like it

[fierce lark]

that is exceptionally bad

[bronze bay]

My Kohm is still my profiles top used gun. From back of the time where 100% status meant every pellet proced. I had a multishot, status riven on it.

[vagrant anvil]

[bronze bay]

It was silly

[vagrant anvil]

Are the Dual kamas prime good ?

[errant blade]

has anyone experimented with Persistence Koumei?
She needs full umbral+either another mod or a tau blue armor shard to hit the 1400 double-cap for protection from heat procs, but I think her Omamori is one of the few defensive abilities that "stacks" with Persistence. You are VERY hard-up for modspace after that, though.

I didn't get Koumei because I didn't really see the sauce, but with Persistence I think I might actually have a reason to use her

[bronze bay]

I can't quite figure this one out. No status chance or crit stats on it.

[timber sparrow]

umm what do yall think (dex sybaris with incarnon)

[errant blade]

they are very old, so they aren't really that good. That said they aren't horrible statwise, 20/25 crit and status is on the edge of workable

[bronze bay]

Fire rate isn't relevant as I have locked firerate.

[vagrant anvil]

Ive got this riven for it
As it was my beginners days most used weapon still have em in my inventory

[timber sparrow]

riven

[versed jasper]

Peak, just need to get manifold lmao

[versed jasper]

Arcane influence? I don't use it

[fierce lark]

melee influence

if you aren't using influence then you can drop electro pulse for one of the aforementioned

[bronze bay]

Status duration as a negative, does that cut my proc damage?

[fierce lark]

that much negative duration is unusable

[timber sparrow]

damn bro nobody?

[errant blade]

That's the power of really high disposition, you can just replace Pressure Point and Organ Shatter with that mod, and enjoy your extra mod slot. Other than that usual high-combo melee build stuff like blood rush/weeping wounds/drifting contact should do you well.

[bronze bay]

Nice riven

[fierce lark]

most statuses including elec have a base duration of 6s, -90% duration means less than a second which im pretty sure means you only get the initial damage tick and nothing else

[versed jasper]

Is influence better than exposure for exodia contagion?

[fierce lark]

i have no idea

never looked into zaws

[versed jasper]

Fair

Is synth deconstruct needed? Don't hate it lol

[bronze bay]

Right, I've done some more rolling, left or right?

[fierce lark]

elementalist over aptitude, and attack speed over one of the crit mods unless you're getting it externally

[fierce lark]

highly recommended

combines with equilibrium to give insane energy economy

[bronze bay]

Plus you get synth set passive.

[fierce lark]

it's probably the biggest reason blind rage has become a default in almost every build these days

[bronze bay]

Saryn, what is your opinion on two riven choices above?

[fierce lark]

the right one is probably a little better than primed ravage

[bronze bay]

And the left isn't worth it in comparison?

[fierce lark]

no, i wouldn't even slot the left one tbh

actually the right one is great, it slots over ravage and pushes elec weighting by a ton

[versed jasper]

I don't use equilibrium lmao, am I cooked?

[fierce lark]

it could be a lot better, missing a stat and a negative, but it's good i think

[bronze bay]

Purple shard

[fierce lark]

i meannnnnn if you don't need it then you don't need it

[versed jasper]

I seem to be fine without it

[fierce lark]

what's your efficiency?

[versed jasper]

45%😆

[fierce lark]

if you're already running 45 eff and not running into energy issues somehow, then you probably don't need it

though im amazed at how you're sustaining energy so easily

[versed jasper]

Tho my main abilities I use only take 40, use 80 every now and then

[fierce lark]

with 0 sources of energy sustain

then again i guess kullervo doesn't press buttons super often

[versed jasper]

That's what I'm using on him

And that's my zaw

[fierce lark]

yep that pretty much looks like exodia kullervo

[versed jasper]

Oh yeah what should I replace for condition overload

[fierce lark]

pressure point

[versed jasper]

That's what I'm using lma

[versed jasper]

Wow

[fierce lark]

CO and pressure point do the same thing, they're just base damage, they add onto each other

if you're getting 560% damage against a primed enemy from CO, the added 160% from ppp really isn't doing shit

[versed jasper]

I see

So like how often will every enemy have all the status effects from diriga?

[fierce lark]

probably pretty often lol, i dont play melee frame much nowadays but arc coil has good coverage

plus the clones from duplex bond will run around shooting random things on the map and priming those as well

[versed jasper]

Sound tysm, now to buy auger seeker and carnis stinger lol

[vagrant anvil]

Currently i enjoy playing Syam and be a Temu Excalibur
I dont have melee influence so no electric build
Amy improvements possible over this build? From what I read PPP is useless in combination of CO?

[fierce lark]

also, opinion me, i would run arcane strike in one of the frame slots, either instead of augmented or instead of fury, probably fury

then you don't need to run attack speed on the weapon

what's even on the riven?

[versed jasper]

Dmg and crit dmg with neg cc for slides( tryna get sm better but 500+ rerolls and nothing)

So what should I run instead of berserker fury?

And is strike really that good would have thought 180% dmg would be better same with strength

[fierce lark]

oh if the riven has damage then 100% arcane fury is doing nothing

i actually have no idea what to run instead of bfury because i just realized you're running pure corrosive on the weapon and that's apparently normal on the rabvee

i also just remembered CO is multiplicative on contagion projectiles but you already have damage on the riven so meh you can probably leave bfury there, or you could run a heat mod like molten touch for some dot

im def not the right person for zaw/kitgun builds

[versed jasper]

Is diminishing returns on dmg really that bad?

[fierce lark]

it would be normally, but if you're actually using exodia contagion then base damage and condition overload multiply off of each other, so it's not that bad

[pallid quiver]

What should I spec into for akbronco prime?

[versed jasper]

So should I keep arcane fury or replace it?

[pallid quiver]

I also noticed that I’m missing the toxin mod for pistols and I’ve got no clue why it’s not there

[fierce lark]

probably replace it since you’re getting damage from the riven anyways

[versed jasper]

Sound, should I use strike instead then?

[fierce lark]

that or something with more warframe stats, ie concentrate

[versed jasper]

Is there a way to increase aoe of exodia contagion?

Would putting arcane avenger instead of arcane have any point?

Does mean I get a 40% chance for that 16.8x to be applied for like an 8th time

[fierce lark]

no, it'd be 45% crit on top of the 500+ you're already getting from wrathful advance

[versed jasper]

Thought so

Might use arcane bellicose but I only have 1.2k health

So unless I put hp mods on I wouldn't get close to max stacks of it

If only overguard worked for it lmao

@fierce lark What u think

Or really anyone lmao

[fierce lark]

nah

probably just use strike

[pastel agate]

Would arcane strike be good on Valkry and Kullevro for building up those combo hits?

[mighty flare]

Valkyr no, because she already has an attack speed boost
Kullervo can try it

[pastel agate]

I guess that’s true

Valkry be swinging

[versed jasper]

Is vigorous swap also bad since it's just straight dmg?

[mighty flare]

for zaws?

[versed jasper]

More specifically exodia contagion but ya

[mighty flare]

its very good for exodia contagion zaws

[fierce lark]

vigorous swap is multiplicative with contagion like CO is

i think it's also further multiplicative with CO itself

[mighty flare]

vigorous swap isn't another damage mod like pressure point, its a universal damage bonus

[versed jasper]

Sound tysm yall

[versed jasper]

I only use my zaw

[winter bane]

Edit: Looks like there is a bug report in the forums already.

(Long Post Sorry) Trying to understand this Subsume Interaction.
I put Remedium on Hildryn to Test its Shield Restore. It works well and hits the same cap as Pillage pretty easy.
I have 373% Strength with the Ability reporting 130% Shield Restore.
But instead of restoring 130% of my Base shields it seems to only restore 9.4% of my Base Shield (1,100) per cast (costing 550 shield in the process of course).
Isn't Remedium supposed to apply the heal all at once?
I know it has reduced effect when subsumed but this feels extreme.
Am I missing something about Remedium or should I report this as a bug.

[worldly oyster]

is this build ok? mr8

[hard dove]

Good
Heavy caliber can be replaced here but you probably don't have hammer shot anyway

[fierce lark]

elementalist, hammershot, heavy caliber and galv scope are all valid replacements

[gray quarry]

I’d still replace it with serration, cause serration doesn’t have an accuracy decrease for the same dmg

[hard dove]

You can't

You already have amalgam serration there

[gray quarry]

nvm I see the amalgam serration

[fierce lark]

im...pretty sure speed trigger is better than vigilante fervor? especially on bows

[pallid quiver]

Where do galv and amalgam mods come from?

[gray quarry]

Galv scope is probably the best option to swap in over heavy cal

[hard dove]

Preference since nataruk have perfect shot mechanic

[fierce lark]

some amalgam mods come from the ropolalyst boss on jupiter, some come from the thermia fractures event

galv mods are from the arbitrations vendor

[gray quarry]

Galv are arbitrations, amalgam is thermia and ropolalyst

[hard dove]

Also idt -accuracy affect nataruk

[fierce lark]

probably not, since it can't equip split flights

[pastel agate]

What melee arcanes are good for atlas landslide fist and Valkry claws

[pallid quiver]

Oh so I should be going and doing thermia 😭

[fierce lark]

the preferred one is exposure, in both cases in believe

[pallid quiver]

Is ropalolyst an easy solo?

[pastel agate]

Corrosive damage?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[hard dove]

It's easy but more time consuming than the average boss

[plain drum]

lowkey swap to primary deadhead and then run scope

over caliber

i dont really know any gun that uses heavy caliber outside of ogris or smth

[pallid quiver]

I mean I’m finding soloing lephantis a pain rn (not cuz it’s hard his iframes are just really annoying)

[fierce lark]

i remember the ropalolyst being kind of annoying? it's a pretty long fight, multiple platforms, i always did it in squads

thermia is definitely worth doing, all of the amalgam mods are good and the opticor vandal is a solid gun, also one of the only guns that's actually good with acuity since hitscan aoe doesn't work right with multishot

[pallid quiver]

[white sky]

anyone have an oraxia build i can peek at? not sure what i should reallly throw on her, i was thinking range and streangth mainly

[white sky]

how come those 2 augments?, why not camisado?

also why equalibrium

[fierce lark]

because im not playing summoner oraxia, if you want to focus more on the 3 you can

equilibrium same reason it's on every other frame, infinite energy

[worldly oyster]

i tried scope I shot like 20 in the head and only 4-5 count..

[white sky]

ah ok, ive never used the mod so i wouldnt know, lol

wait hold on, does mirages mirrors count as a summon?

[fierce lark]

no clue, probably not

[white sky]

thatd lowkey be broken if so

[fierce lark]

combined with synth deconstruct on a companion, equilibrium provides insane amount of energy

if you aren't subsuming 1 then it's pretty much a full energy restore

[white sky]

i havnt invested in the companions much to be honest

[fierce lark]

companions are op

[wanton coral]

They really are. Set up one of the Sister's Hounds properly and it is a nightmare.

As in, if you need to kill things for an Incarnon objective, you're racing your own companion to achieve the goal.

and sometimes it wins

[hollow sphinx]

what's the best Kubrow for Hildryn?

[mighty flare]

raksa kubrow

[hollow sphinx]

oh nice i have one, how can i build her?

[mighty flare]

other mods depend on preferences but usually these

[hollow sphinx]

thank you

[vocal sphinx]

@lost flume i think it was this 1

[solar sentinel]

About to make ember prime anyone know if I should go strength on ember 😀

[fierce lark]

strength is great

[pastel agate]

How exactly do you get more Archon shards?

Just unlocked the system and decided to give cast speed and armor to my atlas and then melee critical chance to my Valkry

[fierce lark]

do archon hunts, deep/temporal archimedea, netracells, the hollvania calendar, buy one weekly from bird 3

[old marsh]

*elite deep/temporal

[pastel agate]

Thanks, even tho I never heard of any of these before really

I’ll search up a video guide then lol

[fierce lark]

archimedeez

[wet cobalt]

Anybody have experience on this? It's on my first hound but I am not getting much priming experience what I see from other people's hounds

[mighty flare]

hounds use synergized prospectus for priming, its a big electric ball that bounces between enemies and primes alot

[wet cobalt]

I find it weird that how their areal priming would work given their weapons are "melee", So out of 3 prospectus it's the one most useful?

So much for variety

[mighty flare]

yes, synergized most useful prospectus
audits and denials have more variety

[karmic badger]

Needs more research, but hounds can technically proc melee influence

[steady heron]

Why almost every xoris builds im seeing people put primed pressure instead of Co ?

[astral tinsel]

CO doesn't work on radial (aoe) damage

[steady heron]

Right so it wont even apply on direct bounces either if i use volatile quick return ?

[astral tinsel]

only on the direct hit damage, not the explosion

[steady heron]

Gotcha thank you primed pressure it is then

[steady heron]

Is the xoris infinite combo duration a lie ?

I find it that sometimes my combo just disappears when i dont use melee for a while ?

[buoyant patio]

There's bugs/specific interactions that can cause it to disappear.

[royal tulip]

Chat im getting nova today and suggestions on how to build her?

[karmic badger]

Duration, and enough strength to max out her slow

Rest is supplemental QoL life stuff

Her augments for her neutron star and molecular prime is fun, basically removes the need to recast the stars

[royal tulip]

Thats what I was thinking

I forgit which one but theees one thats simply gonna be useless for me🤷‍♂️

[karmic badger]

Yeah, and the heat procs lets you run hotshot

Could very easily make her a secondary crit platform with orange shards

[royal tulip]

We love crits

[karmic badger]

Dual toxocyst or torxicas...

Or just... Lex prime...

[polar yarrow]

Anyone has a good build for gyre that is recent? Im a newbie *(mr14)

[royal tulip]

Range from what I know

[polar yarrow]

just build; range and strength and yolo ?

[royal tulip]

Im not well versed with gyre but yeah range and strength from what my friend told me

[karmic badger]

You'll want her augments that's for sure

[polar yarrow]

what is her augment ?

you mean arcane ?

[royal tulip]

No

Frame specific mods

From syndicates

[green forge]

Does anyone know what scales the Purgator's forced gas proc on enemy kill? A lot of videos feature acuity builds for it with primed cryo rounds. Is a cold mod scaling the gas procs damage? Ive also seen some comments on the wiki that the gas cloud seems to scale with enemy HP somewhat. The wiki is overall lacking in information on this.

[polar yarrow]

ok thank you

Any secondary weap of choice ? @karmic badger and @royal tulip ?

[royal tulip]

No🤷‍♂️ ive been strictly using vinquibus for its crit cause my build is nasty

[polar yarrow]

crit takes in consideration the weapon held at the cast time ?

[royal tulip]

Wdym?

[quiet laurel]

man I wish gyres crit buff wasnt ass

you'd ideally want to use an incarnon with high base crit to make the best use of the laughable amount of crit you get from your 3

[royal tulip]

Build in question

[polar yarrow]

thank you I was about to ask the build

[royal tulip]

Ive been hitting 7m red crits on oraxia like every 5th shot or so

Its pretty consistent

It coud definitely use work but as of rn it holds up fine

[coral crest]

She came out alongside Zariman incarnons, it's a ploy

[polar yarrow]

any idaes of which one then ? 🙂

[quiet laurel]

the usual suspects, DT, Sicarus, Lex

[coral crest]

DT?

[quiet laurel]

dual tox

[coral crest]

Ah

[polar yarrow]

In regular version or prime or incarnon ? @quiet laurel

[quiet laurel]

prime incarnon

except DT of course cause it doesnt have a prime

[polar yarrow]

ok i dont know these weapon so i am taking notes !! thanks

[quiet laurel]

where are you in the game

[polar yarrow]

MR14 only really started playing recently after procrastinating for years

[quiet laurel]

where in the story

[polar yarrow]

cleared alll

[royal tulip]

W

[quiet laurel]

are you at steel path

[polar yarrow]

Yes

but made no progress yet there I need some builds haha

[quiet laurel]

then you can get incarnons via steel path duviri circuit

[polar yarrow]

built up a mesa for bounties and all its fun but Gyre is something else

[polar yarrow]

Yes did last week already and doing it rn for this week !

[royal tulip]

I think the incarnons were mid this week

Lwk dont remember

[quiet laurel]

wasnt it gammacor week

[polar yarrow]

im just doing it so I have them stored for later in case I need

[quiet laurel]

boar and angstrum are really good there

[polar yarrow]

not using any so far

I pick boar and angstrum as I asked in this sub before selecting

[quiet laurel]

W

[royal tulip]

Is it even worth to build my hate incarnon

Id only be using it on one frame☠️

Maybe a few actually

[coral crest]

Anku Incarnon, what are you even

[quiet laurel]

anku incarnon definitely exists

I like DEs attempt to make slide attacks viable

but key word "attempt" is important

[royal tulip]

Cough cough koumei

[quiet laurel]

koumei legit makes everything viable after a while

[coral crest]

Twice in a row

Wasn't there a tenet slide attack weapon as well

I can't remember the name

[quiet laurel]

lavos prime melee as well

dual zoren

[quiet laurel]

I dont think so

we have grigori that has its special heavy attack when you slide

but its very clunky

I rather mean slide spam like the old days

[coral crest]

Heavy when you slide

Eugh

[royal tulip]

Was it burston or braton that was good for heat procs

[quiet laurel]

burston

braton is burston with less dps but higher AoE

[royal tulip]

I was thinking of doing burston hate for temple + ember (burston would be lwk useless considering lizzie)

[quiet laurel]

ember heat platform despair

do you know the problem with ember weapons platform

[royal tulip]

All ik is my energy eco is terrible

[quiet laurel]

her heat buff is treated as a seperate heat instance, so it doesnt buff your modded heat damage

[royal tulip]

Booo

What abt nova cause she does heat (ik nothing abt her)

[quiet laurel]

nova just has heat on neutron stars

which applies heat and messes with heat inherit

i. e. really bad to use heat weapons with her

[royal tulip]

Got it

[quiet laurel]

god heat needs a rework asap

[royal tulip]

Uriel will be the bane of my existence

[quiet laurel]

exactly why I would consider heat a pretty bad status rn

so many heat based frames running around rn

especially cause of hotshot hype

[royal tulip]

I hate his little heat buff stars ts pmo it messes with my oraxia so bad

I love uriel but I hate seeing that mf

[midnight forum]

For specters telling them where to stay do I just ping a area I was gonna use them for the solo eta

[red moat]

What's a good sniper rifle?

[lavish orbit]

Iirc you go to it and u press your action button, a pop up will be there "press X to defend position" or something like that

[quiet laurel]

you can interact with them and depending on whether the games spaghetti code will break or not the specter will actually do what you tell it to do

it can happen that when you tell it to stop following it will straight up still follow you

[polar yarrow]

@royal tulip what is yoru gyre build then ?

[royal tulip]

I dont have one but I can ask my buddy whenever hes on hes the one who told me abt gyre

[midnight forum]

Okay thanks

[midnight forum]

Ty

[polar yarrow]

oh please do yeah i saw a couple of very different build on youtube so im a bit confused

[royal tulip]

It might be awhile though he might have to go to work so feel free to ask around

[quiet laurel]

builds on youtube are always a hit or miss

mostly a miss

gyre has several builds nowadays

[polar yarrow]

which are (if you have a bit of time)

Tbh I think I like doing a lot of aoe and see a lot of numbers on the screen and also use my weapons if I can even if just to apply status or else

[royal tulip]

From MY knowledge prioritize it in this order
Range
Strength
Duration

[quiet laurel]

gyre likes elec weapons cause of how she works
otherwise you could use her 1 augment to apply elec stacks but that requires a bit more casting and thinking about positioning
she also has some subsume options, you could go for pillage, terrify or roar/nourish depending on what you prefer
pillage would solve your survivability issues by shield gating but usually requires a lot of strength to armor strip in 1 cast, otherwise you could opt for a 2 cast stripping build
other option would be survivability via arcane circumvent and passive/active gating via cat shields and augur mods which would open the possibility for terrify which needs much less strength for stripping and is non LoS
my builds are all kinda outdated cause I played gyre a long time ago but as you can see you have many options

[polar yarrow]

Thank you I am taking note !

[quiet laurel]

problem with gyre is that she kinda is a solo frame

you can play her in squads but its really stressful to do so

or you can invest more into duration which in return would make the dps part of her kit really inefficient modding wise though

[hushed harbor]

Vadarya on Gyre

enough said

5 Tauforge Violet for Primary Electricity damage

[pallid quiver]

Which ones are easily available and good?

[lavish orbit]

Pillage with weaponplatform gyre if you already have weapons that feel good to use, she basically needs 2 augments (1st and 3rd) and this is basically most of it

The caster one need to put more into her builds since she will lack a bit of damage at certain level

[pallid quiver]

Oh so it’s just modding weapons for electric?

[karmic badger]

Amprex is relatively easy to acquire

[severe bough]

Normally their only 2 options either ability dps combined with pillage over her 1
Or weapon platform with nourish and subsume 2
If u want a mix of both u can ig

And gyre likes grouping if u subsume over 2 bring nautilus with cordon

[pallid quiver]

Ah yes none of which I have

I will take note of this tho

[mortal canyon]

Heyo peeps. Question.

For khora and her jail with the extra loot mod. You build it how exactly ? range and duration ?

[icy light]

Ay so I cannot for the life of me find that build for the Vectis Prime. Iirc it capitalized on the Headshot Combo + CritCD + Orokin Bane cause. Idk.

Plus Primed Chamber.... and then Depleted Reload.

[icy light]

Iirc mine was initially made to be -duration. But Khora is given two free Strangledomes. So. Good Duration, Neutral Range, Str.

[mortal canyon]

normal range ? isnt it better to be a big area ?

[icy light]

My reasoning is that; Khora has a default Pinned Enemies counter on her strangledome. And iirc, Strangledome doesn't work like Energy Transfer from Trinity.

[icy light]

Enemies captured is like 12. Why are you doing 12 flailing enemies across a 30m gap?

Neutral Range, Whipclaw them, bam; loot.

[mortal canyon]

well that's a good point, now that u mention it

[icy light]

Lemme see if I can open my companion app.

[mortal canyon]

my biggest enemy

no pictures

[icy light]

I have to check. But like. If you're having issues pulling enemies. She has her Ensnare.

Ik. Iirc all my mods are maxed.

[mortal canyon]

nonono i didnt use her yet, just asking to know what to build

[icy light]

Mhm. Well, neutral range aint bad for strangledome. Just remember she gets two free strangledomes at max rank is all. Honestly a little weird that it's like that.

[mortal canyon]

ye it should be a bigger one instead of 2. Can i stack them both on top of each other to i have 24 ?

[icy light]

Plus with Venari's passive being MODDABLE (nightmare blunt rotation.), Str is fine.

Yeah, iirc they just stack on each other.

[mortal canyon]

and the wipp

should i go crit or status ?

whip or wip, idk how you type it

[karmic badger]

Can't go wrong with a CRABSWEAT influence build

[mortal canyon]

no clue what's that

[karmic badger]

Basically an influence build

[mortal canyon]

thanks both 😄

[compact cypress]

anyone have a bubonico build?

[mortal canyon]

finally something i have

[mortal canyon]

and this somewhat works with the area shot, it's kinda meh still

[mortal canyon]

why HP ?

[karmic badger]

I'd swap either electricity mods for galvanized savvy, more damage

[mortal canyon]

i need to forma for that swap

me lazy rn, but ye, it will be agood swap to take out shell shock i think

or maybe even charged shell

since it doesn't deal that much dmg

good idea

[fierce lark]

looting khora really does not want influence

it’ll snipe things outside the dome

you want vortex

[proud anchor]

Sup

[fierce lark]

ye

[latent latch]

Is this uriel gun platform build good for steel path?

[mortal canyon]

that's a mod ?

[fierce lark]

it’s an arcane

[mortal canyon]

and where i get the magnetic ?

secondary primer ?

[brittle sleet]

Mod it onto the whip directly

Can use toxin as well with Archon Continuity

[fierce lark]

vigor, fiber and adaptation are all doing mostly nothing, look for more duration and strength

[summer trout]

how do i fix the acceltra ammo shortage?

[steady epoch]

Vigilante Supplies and or a Carrier Companion

[summer trout]

aight thx

[fierce lark]

or energized munitions/enough damage from weapon buffs to use less ammo

[latent latch]

Will transient fortitude be good

[fierce lark]

blind rage would be better, but yes

flow should be in there somewhere as well

[trim hill]

Anybody have a Scourge Prime build? I can't get this thing to do diddly 😭

[coral plank]

Utterly my dumbest build yet

[quiet laurel]

why CP

[hexed lodge]

No no, you are actually kinda cooking...
The only thing i'd change would be swap Carnis for Intensify and add a blue shard for armor to meet breakpoint,

[coral plank]

I got two tauforged archons to get 600 armor up

[hexed lodge]

Mmm... then Rolling Guard > Intensify and get wyrm for status cleanse? I know i built a sev-roar persistence before, but can't login to check

it's a really tight build tho

[trim hill]

What if keep RG and use Power Drain on Parazon?

[hexed lodge]

Or, remove Carnis for HealthConversion, and use the blue shards for more str shards instead?

[trim hill]

Then Synth mods on companion for orb genny

[hexed lodge]

The issue with Roar sev is that it needs to be constantly at 255%, no snapshotting, snapshot is only good for gloom's slow cap at 272% str

||i hate roar sev cause of that 255% breakpoint, there are many better nuke alternatives...||

[coral plank]

Very tight build

[trim hill]

I'm definitely too lazy to run that build, but you do have to respect the sheer efficiency of it all.

[quiet laurel]

not rly, once you reach that 255% you are basically the best nuke in the game

or arguably the best nuke in the game

[trim hill]

"Better" in this case probably means "more comfortable/flexible for an almost comparable result"

[fallow mist]

sooo with secondary ennervate, is laetum crit build better than the no crit?

[hexed lodge]

if you don't care about investment, then equinox begs to differ
Also, no, Sevagoth has the best consistent nuke for damage, not fastest or best

[acoustic bluff]

whats the fastest or best

[trim hill]

Technically...

I'm jk, I have no clue

[quiet laurel]

equinox also goated and def up there but she still needs buildup and also much more investment than rev

rev is a 2 click adventure

[coral plank]

Also, considering Sevagoth's Shadow could be much more better for persistance

[burnt bramble]

Could someone give me a decent ember prime weapon platform build? Ik she isn’t used much but I enjoy playing her

[hexed lodge]

Max range + terrify and magistar are more investment than double-augment 255% strength roar sev?

[coral plank]

I think I use Sevagoth's Shadow less because of how clunky his movement is

[trim hill]

Spending 90% of the mission building up Maim is part of investment, I reckon

[acoustic bluff]

the 2 crit shards, the kills prior to nuking, the survivability

2 channelled abilities

[quiet laurel]

companion investment

[acoustic bluff]

Snapshotting if terrify

companion investment too lol

sevagoth is literally just roar power strength and catalyzing shields

[minor apex]

Can i ask for builds here?

What is a Good protea prime build for early-mid Game?

[trim hill]

How early is early-mid? What MR are you at?

[minor apex]

7

[hexed lodge]

Honestly, there is so much to both, it's bad idea to water it down, both have their pros and cons
Like equinox is faster and wider, but has less surv
Where as sevagoth is more consistent for scaling damage, with more investment (gear) in the build.

[trim hill]

Okay, lemme see

[acoustic bluff]

But literally no tho

[quiet laurel]

sevagoth nuke kills enemies 2 rooms over while equinox is a fixed range

[acoustic bluff]

you dont even need a weapon for sev

[coral plank]

I have these two normal for Sevagoth If I do it in roar and max kill enemies for M-augment then ill reach above 255 Strength, but then ill have to use shield gating

[acoustic bluff]

equinox and sevagoth are both good nukers but sevagoth needs less investment to make him fast and good

[acoustic bluff]

wouldnt shield gating be better for this anyway considering you are always casting abilities

[trim hill]

If you have some corrupted mods, I'd recommend Overextended in place of Stretch for range. Then, you can run Intensify + Augur Secrets for strength, and use her passive to counter the strength drain from Overextended.

After that, Flow for energy, Streamline for efficiency, Continuity for some duration, and a couple of shield survivability mods (Redirection/Fast Deflection+Fortitude) when you can't have your shield satellites active to keep you alive and well.

If you don't have OE, Stretch + Augur Reach will do well

[minor apex]

What is OE

[hexed lodge]

Both need a considerable amount of investment, not too much if you know what you are doing.
wtf fixed range? sev algo has limited range and has trouble nuking in wider maps unless you really invest into a max range build, which is overkill most of the time.

[trim hill]

Sorry, Overextended

[minor apex]

Overextended oh

[quiet laurel]

sev legit has summons that nuke for him rooms away

[minor apex]

How do u Get overextended and Auger secrets

[hexed lodge]

Looks good just swap augur secrets for augur reach and should perform great, molt augmented has you covered for the 255% breakpoint

[coral plank]

I have so many problems with my shield gating (Skill issues, not enough energy to supply, panicking, dont know when to stop spamming abilities, and the energy to shield ratio is small imo)

[trim hill]

Corrupted mod. You have to crack dragon vaults on star chart Deimos missions using dragon keys

[coral plank]

Never thought of that -why didn't I thought of that (maybe cuz im just power hungry for more strength)

[hexed lodge]

Again, depends on the tileset, in Kuva Fortress they will excel, whereas in Zariman they will struglee, do you want me to give you a wall of text on how the shadows from the augment function? cause trust me...
*I know how they work *

[quiet laurel]

cat shields is bugged to always give the 1.33 seconds of shield gate
you just need to cast once when your shields break

[quiet laurel]

I do lvl caps on zariman and the shadows kill next to the rooms in hangar so idk what there is to explain

[minor apex]

Thank you for all the help

[trim hill]

Ruby probably has more hours on Sev than I have at work

[coral plank]

Go ahead, ive been maining this bad boy for like 2 years now, must know

[acoustic bluff]

sevagoths are always a small problem in fissures and what not simply because they kill too much lol

And its so easy to kill

[hexed lodge]

If you're next to a hallway door, yes they will chain-reaction, but if you're in the middle of an open, they will not.
Sev is complicated...

[quiet laurel]

fr, even when you are careful when playing sevagoth the shadows still just spawncamp the enemies

[acoustic bluff]

Yes they do

They literally kill everything and anything

[trim hill]

When they aren't getting stuck on invisible geometry, maybe

[hexed lodge]

Uhm... maybe 😅

[acoustic bluff]

very small kills for the amount of hours ngl

no offense

[hexed lodge]

Where does kpm matter outside of ESO? legit question

survival? you just need to kill enough to upkeep the life support

[fierce lark]

any time you queue with the matchmaking option set to public

[acoustic bluff]

doesnt matter but you say this that about efficient nuker and... well its obvious you dont really nuke on sev

lol

[quiet laurel]

I mean you cant really say that there are much more efficient ways to nuke with sevagoth outside of roar sev and then show really inefficient KPM

[trim hill]

I only do that by accident, lol

[trim hill]

I'm not white-knighting when I say this, but KPM isn't accurately measured by usage only

[hexed lodge]

No, i don't often nuke on sev cause i don't have the need for it, even for void cascade, what matters is keeping the exolizers clean, you only kpm to upkeep energy.
And tbh, this was mainly a sev/equinox comparison, not efficient nuking...
yes Roar is indisputable the king of kpm of sev builds, but that 255% str breakpoint + double augment requirements makes it super stale, fragile and overkill 90% of the time, i never have an issue with my helminthless sevagoth on any type of content, and other helminths don't even need high requirements for him

[trim hill]

DPS might, but that's not KPM

[hexed lodge]

It actually reduces the contamination progress, not their rate of decay.

[karmic badger]

All points invalid, sev nuke is cool cause the visuals

[fierce lark]

hm

[karmic badger]

Debate statistics and minutiae all you want, in the end its all about vibes and aura

[fierce lark]

oh i see killing enemies lowers the meter

kpm matters in void flood xd

[quiet laurel]

the whole killing making exolizers faster is such an interesting myth

like idk where it comes from but I see it everywhere

[fierce lark]

dead enemies soak into the exilozer, the connection is pretty obvious

[quiet laurel]

I mean takes no more than looking at the exo progress

[trim hill]

That's 100% the vibe you get when their souls get sucked into the vacuum cleaner

[fierce lark]

yeah but who's actually looking at that while they're shooting stuff

[quiet laurel]

and seeing that the mission meter decreases rather than the exo progress

[karmic badger]

Unless the bar is a timer, people can't tell the difference

[trim hill]

"It isn't going up? I must need to kill them faster"

[fierce lark]

if you have controlled exolizers there's like 0 threat to actually failing, so nobody's gonna be looking at that while they're killing stuff

[quiet laurel]

and iirc quinn even tells you that killing enemies within an exo decreases contamination

[hexed lodge]

It's a just bad communicating visual from the game, I can hardly blame it on the playerbase when there is too much visual noise in the game already

[acoustic bluff]

lowk suffering from success cause i never notice this

💔

[quiet laurel]

atp I know all of quinns lines from memory

[fierce lark]

yeah i thought he meant contamination of the exolizer, like we're decontaminating the exolizer from the big void man that was just inside it

[quiet laurel]

we have lost an exolizer, purge it or we will lose this cascade 🗣️

when greenies defend

[acoustic bluff]

i love it when greenies defend

[quiet laurel]

its peak

messing up exo rotation on a 533 fissure

[kindred lichen]

I wish the Tesla mines were moddable anyway here’s my photon nuking build

[trim hill]

So Cascade is just Excavation on steroids? 🤔

[coral crest]

Yes

[quiet laurel]

its easier excavation

[coral crest]

Yes

Wtf discord

[trim hill]

Yes

[coral crest]

Yes

[kindred lichen]

I wish they had more missions that got to level cap faster

[coral crest]

Yes

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[kindred lichen]

I hate sitting in missions longer than like an hour

[trim hill]

We got Yes Man over here

[coral crest]

I am not a man

But... Yes

[trim hill]

That's the name of the movie, I thought

[coral crest]

This is obviously a reference to an npc from the hit videogame Fallout New Vegas

[trim hill]

What's that?

[coral crest]

Nothing

[trim hill]

Oh, okay

My b, cuz

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-gif-26526118

[hexed lodge]

Hi Box~

[acoustic bluff]

🥀

[coral crest]

Hi Ruby

Oh sorry

Hi Ruby~

[lethal vine]

Should I use an omni forma on my Gauss aura slot?

[hexed lodge]

Also, sorry @coral plank i will give the explanation later, but currently went off that topic now

[desert furnace]

help

[trim hill]

That is a beautiful riven

[coral crest]

The only way to play cascade and stay happy is to just play it in pubs

Kpm is in double digits, rotation is "I defend" "k"

(you are attacking 2 exos later)

[desert furnace]

ty

[quiet laurel]

4 people lowkey boring, duo is the true way

[coral crest]

With pubs you'll never know

It might be duo, it might be trio

[desert furnace]

Critaata is a beautiful name, I'm gonna name my kid that

[quiet laurel]

I will never play pubs cause of rolling tile

I will never play a 333

outside of solo

[acoustic bluff]

333 hell or 544 goon

❤️

[hexed lodge]

Pubs are so random in cascade (omnia) some are amazing and coordinate well, others just randomly go after the next exo and now you are stuck defending

[quiet laurel]

544 goon but teammates leave after 3 exos cause its too difficult to reach 16 exos DE pls nerf

@acoustic bluff have you done a cascade after yesterdays patch

did the spawns improve much?

[coral crest]

My beautiful son Spira Pura-Argitron

[hexed lodge]

did they finally fix their pathing in the Hangar tileset?

[desert furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-fish-fish-speaking-telling-a-story-shocked-gif-1841740456982368419

[quiet laurel]

that is the biggest thing I am hoping for
it wasnt really pathing either, they just spawned in the rooms next to hangar and got stuck there if it was a vertical room

and I hope amphi spawns have been improved

[coral crest]

It's like Dark Souls multiplayer. You are never going to meet these people again, one of them looks like they were born 4 hours ago, and another is here to kill everyone else and leave shortly after

But it will be a memorable experience for everyone

All you're gonna get out of thar session is 5 common Braton blueprints

[quiet laurel]

I would do pubs cascade caps if there wasnt this whole thing about the gamemode being broken if there are low exo rooms present

[coral crest]

Because all of you hoped to leech off others

[coral crest]

I geniunely have never encountered any game breaking bugs in cascade, maybe I have survivorship bias

And I play pubs in 100% of cases

[quiet laurel]

not game breaking but exo skips are a thing which make the gamemode significantly slower

[coral crest]

I'm here to play the game, not to skip it

[quiet laurel]

can go from an hour to an hour and 30 minutes if you have a bad tileset

[hexed lodge]

That's strange, last time I did a solo cap, they all seemed to be stuck in the middle of the tileset... perhaps could be two separate bugs though

[coral crest]

Level scaling isn't the important bit

I'll just spend an hour and dip

[quiet laurel]

but exo skips means more time on the rotation reward

which is insanely ass in omnias

[coral crest]

Never felt all that slow to me

Maybe its because I never farmed anything efficiently lol

[quiet laurel]

I mean since you dont roll for good tilesets its not a big difference to you but there is a pretty big difference

imagine every 3rd exo not spawning and adding 30 seconds onto the timer

[coral crest]

See that's why you can't have fun in pubs

[acoustic bluff]

i havent no

[coral crest]

That sounds ok to me

[quiet laurel]

?

I have fun, but it needs to be a good tile

otherwise its just slow for no reason

[hexed lodge]

It's a considerable help if you're going for cap, but if you aren't going for the full 108 exos, then might as well go for any tileset

[quiet laurel]

its insanely inefficient and boring

[coral crest]

Well whatever floats your boat ig

[hexed lodge]

It's not that huge of a difference, don't sweat it...

[coral crest]

I just want to play the game, not maximize the exo count

[hexed lodge]

you're not considering the time spent on rotating too

[coral crest]

The only exo count I'm gonna post anywhere is if it hits a funny number

[quiet laurel]

imagine a survival mission where you get your relic reward every 10 minutes instead of 5, would you still play it?

[coral crest]

I think you are exaggerating the amount of time it takes

[trim hill]

That's why I don't play survival. 5min is too long

[quiet laurel]

exo skips can stack on a single exo too

[coral crest]

Especially not considering that most people in pubs are rather slow

[hexed lodge]

Yea you're just taking it out of proportion...
It helps for cap, not for casual runs.

[coral crest]

And that pubs rarely take it to cap

[viscid bane]

Did they fix Arcane Dexterity bug on archguns?

[acoustic bluff]

10 seconds

[coral crest]

Seems to be more intended than anything

Because they fixed bulwark but not dexterity

[paper compass]

Some ome hace mod split chamber for give me? Or change

[acoustic bluff]

Its not taking it out of proportion at all, exo skips are terrible because it just makes the run so much longer, or out of place exos

if you dont know how to fix it then its just terrible

[coral crest]

I don't think most people even know about it

[quiet laurel]

which doesnt make it less bad

[trim hill]

I surely don't

[coral crest]

Not saying that it does

I meant to reply to "don't know how to fix it"

[acoustic bluff]

I did a 333 omnia fissure i shit you not it took almost 2 hours and i was on top of exos and everything. i did a 544 and it took almost an hour and a bit

[coral crest]

That most people don't even know it's a thing

[acoustic bluff]

thats the difference

[desert furnace]

Would a CC + CD topple it though?

[hexed lodge]

It's like you tell them one thing and goes straight through their head with infinite punch through...
We aren't talking about rotating exos being bad, we are saying, it's just not worth if you aren't intending to do +108 exos

[trim hill]

Probably, since you can outsource your damage more easily

[acoustic bluff]

why are you cascading if you arent doing 107. like genuinely

[quiet laurel]

it doesnt have anything to do with the amount of exos you are doing, it straight up increases rotation times even for 50 exo runs

[coral crest]

Because you just want to play the game mode?

And crack some relics?

[hexed lodge]

Cause it's still the fastest way to crack relics in pubs

[coral crest]

With randoms, for fun?

[acoustic bluff]

yeah the standard is 107

[coral crest]

Who said that

[acoustic bluff]

27 rounds

[coral crest]

This isn't a "standard"

90% of players in cascade probably don't even know how exolizers work

[acoustic bluff]

ive literally seen anyone wanna crack relics and not go to level cap outside clueless people on literally pubs, not even recruit because people leave 2 rounds in

[coral crest]

"On literally pubs"

Thats what we were talking about in the first place?

About playing in pubs?

[hexed lodge]

Then don't do pubs and rotate with a coordinate squad?

[pallid quiver]

why do u go to level cap to crack relics

[coral crest]

The dialogue was about playing in pubs

And how people have much less pressure there

[acoustic bluff]

I dont do pubs lol.

[coral crest]

The argument was entirely about pubs

[acoustic bluff]

I used to but its so bad

[hexed lodge]

The extra boosters you get from opening relics, but that's it

[coral crest]

And to get the internet points in cascade club

[pallid quiver]

boosters?

[acoustic bluff]

legit 95% of people in cc are just people youd do pubs with also

[quiet laurel]

qorvex prestige so tuff I tell you

[quiet laurel]

cc has seen so many new people recently

[acoustic bluff]

Titania prestige so tuff

[quiet laurel]

probs people that usually just do recruit chat caps

[quiet laurel]

Ima get mirage prestige soon fr fr

but zaw mirage lowkey boring

[acoustic bluff]

I think i might get that ngl

[quiet laurel]

I might also go for akarius mirage

[acoustic bluff]

akarius

[quiet laurel]

do you also use akarius for thrax dps

[versed jasper]

What's the best weapon to use on diriga if I'm using it to prime enemies? Currently using burst laser prime but don't like how it only hits one enemy at a time

[severe bough]

Need to use akarius more

[severe bough]

Ig so but can say very little about it only really used it for arbi

[acoustic bluff]

yes

[quiet laurel]

I also use it for arbis but its just there for decoration fr fr
average citrine shyte gameplay:

• throw afentis
• cast 2, cast 3, cast 4
• eat food for the next 2 minutes

[hexed lodge]

It's a bit hard to explain, but i'll simplify..
when you open relics, you get boosters for the rest of the missions, like +25% affinity then +25% extra loot etc and they rotate, increasing the 25 to 50, then 75 and maxing at +100%.
So basically, after a lot of opening relics (can't recall exact amount, prob +20) you get a double resource booster for the rest of the mission, many use it mainly to farm steel essence and/or other valuable resources, but it takes a considerable amount of time to get there.

[pallid quiver]

ohhhhh

so its always worth to just run omnia?

[coral crest]

You won't get relic opening without an omnia

And enemy variety will be smaller

[versed jasper]

?

[pallid quiver]

wym i wont get an opening

[severe bough]

Then after the 1 hour u gamble everything into nothing and be depressed for the next Week

[quiet laurel]

hellstrum or tazicor

[coral crest]

It's only omnia or no fissure

[quiet laurel]

still have 14k vitus

[coral crest]

Only fissure available for casc is omnia, so any alternative is to just run a normal mission

Or a bounty ig

[severe bough]

My heart is to broken from all that gamble 🥀

[severe bough]

Need to use citrine one time in arbis never used her once

[quiet laurel]

gonna spend half of it on arcanes for vosfor fr

[severe bough]

Not even gamble queen helps with rolling good rolls

[quiet laurel]

shyte is really map dependent

[severe bough]

Ive heared that

[quiet laurel]

shyte on B tier hyf basically makes hyf an S tier

[pallid quiver]

oh is this when only talking about cascade?

[versed jasper]

Does that do good aoe for status?

[coral crest]

Nah, all Zariman modes are like that

[quiet laurel]

helstrum is an AoE slinger and tazicor is a laser that chains enemies

[coral crest]

But you'll never catch a living soul in void armageddon

You will catch a soul, but they won't be a living soul

Hespar blade my beloved

[hexed lodge]

Wish there was a fissure or better rewards for Armageddon, the gamemode is so fun but not much reason to run it

[fierce lark]

hespar xd

[trim hill]

I loved Hespar before Thalys came out. Was really hoping for Hespar P with Gyre 💔

[severe bough]

Isnt pburstlaser the best one since air coil on diriga? Or does that even matter 😭 what u use on him he primes anyway i assume tazi/helstrum could also reach cc cap for ten bond

[quiet laurel]

he asked for priming so I gave the best priming weapons

they cant reach tenacious iirc

[fierce lark]

just like in ftl

the kestrel is great, and burst laser 2 is op

[trim hill]

I don't like thrown melees, personally. I rather either spam lights or spam heavies

[severe bough]

Never got hespar bruh the only real reason would be because its a scyte but tahlys is there

[trim hill]

Heavy Scythes have such a good heavy attack it's crazy. And then there's Corufell...

[coral crest]

The reason is that it costs 150p on wfm

[severe bough]

Corufell is good

When corufell prime

[trim hill]

But it's a gun 😔

[severe bough]

Soon

[coral crest]

Soon actually

This year

[trim hill]

I'm more excited for Steflos P

[severe bough]

With citrine which should be

Half of the year

[wild rune]

ain't it great when the blade is locked behind DE's attempt at replicating Dungeon Defenders

I got the blade and haven't touched the game mode since

[coral crest]

Styanax -> Voruna -> Kullervo -> Citrine most likely

So she's definitely this year

[coral crest]

Probably closer to the end

[brisk obsidian]

?

[coral crest]

Qorvex Prime is next year

[trim hill]

I hope Voruna P doesn't come with Sarofang P unless it has a unique gimmick

[quiet laurel]

right

[coral crest]

Wdym

It has a unique gimmick, always had

[trim hill]

It does?

[coral crest]

It'll be Sarofang and Perigale Prime

As sol and lua intended

[coral crest]

Heavy Slam attacks create a vortex that pulls in lifted enemies when the Sarofang's Combo Multiplier builds to 8x. In Voruna's hands, the Sarofang only requires a 5x Combo Multiplier to summon the vortex.

It's literally in the weapon's description

[trim hill]

Bruh I never noticed this

[coral crest]

Warframe players never beating the allegations

[trim hill]

I don't claim to

[hexed lodge]

poggers
I'm definitely trying this now since i always use crescendo in my builds

[severe bough]

Could but we will see the next prime probably next dev stream

[coral crest]

It also looks cool

And new deluxe skin looks amazing