builds-discussion

[fierce lark]

yeah

concentration kinda simplifies duration for builds

and if you somehow need more there’s always shards

how’s the prime redirection expertise package on styanax

[tepid hound]

do we have.... uh.... excel thing? so we can calculate weapons

[mighty flare]

kinda shyte, passive still sucks

[fierce lark]

there’s a website called underframe you can use for calcing

but also knowledge-based building can carry you through most weapons even if it’s not 100% optimal

[tepid hound]

really?

okay i'll check the website ❤️

oh btw is this normal?

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[spring holly]

Hi, I have a question. I tried change weapon different config but when I moved the forma polarity to another place, the forma polarity in another config moved as well just like the one I'm trying to modify. Is it supposed to be like this?

[fierce lark]

yes

polarities are shared between configs

[dense fox]

Hey help me rq I just reached Mr 10 and I'm on steel path what do you think i should get as my secondary weapon

[gusty nova]

Have you done steel path circuit

[zealous forge]

Stug.

[dense fox]

Yea ofc

[gusty nova]

The incarnons from there are pretty good

[dense fox]

I have my eye on a weapon but idk

The cantare

I used it in the circuit and it was so good

[gusty nova]

Never used it so idk

Build it and try it

[dense fox]

Okok

[spring holly]

I understand polarities shared in configs but the issue is that the polarities position that the I'm trying to change.

[fierce lark]

yeah, the positions are shared between configs

[spring holly]

Is it like that for everyone? I just think that it can be better, the benefit of different configs if as same as the one I'm saying is that it can only change differents mods with the same polarities position, but can be better with different mods and different polarities positions.

[gleaming oasis]

this is my gauss build I made about a year ago before I got to the endgame. looking to upgrade it. its a thermal sunder nuke build. I assume archon flow goes well with this?

[fierce lark]

endurance drift should go for overextended, you want max range

[gleaming oasis]

replace end drift with overexten correct?

[fierce lark]

ye

[gleaming oasis]

how can I compensate for the 40% abil strength

arcane ice strom i guess?

[fierce lark]

if you're gonna run fast deflection you should also run arcane aegis to use the bug and subsume 2, if you don't want to use that bug then drop fast deflection for rolling guard

[gleaming oasis]

should I even use continuity if all I'm doing is using sunder?

[velvet pulsar]

Gauss doesn't need strength unless Thermal Transfer or a subsume

[fierce lark]

keeps redline active for longer, duration always good

[velvet pulsar]

Gauss demands duration over strength

[fierce lark]

heat sunders scale exponentially so you don't need strength, unless you're using your 2 to survive then you need at least neutral strength

[velvet pulsar]

Any melee which triple dips faction mods without influence?

[gleaming oasis]

what is the bug and I assume subsume 2 just refers to kinetic plating

[fierce lark]

doubt it, influence triple dips because it applies a separate status effect to all enemies based on your initial status effect which is based on your initial damage

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah so what I'm asking is additional damage instant melee without influence

[fierce lark]

by having fast deflection + arcane aegis equipped, whenever aegis triggers the effect will roll over into your passive shield delay and become permanent

[velvet pulsar]

Coz I wanna make melee careen triple dip

[gleaming oasis]

sounds like good survival im in

[fierce lark]

every melee weapon that causes its own instance of damage that i know of is a flat amount, and wouldn't triple dip

[fierce lark]

you can also run a different aura if you want. blast sunder strips all armor if you do it during redline at 100% battery

and iirc that strip applies before the damage

so corro proj doesn't really help you

sprint boost is pretty in-flavor

oh also very very very important thing i almost forgot

you need archon vitality

[gleaming oasis]

I need to get that

I see now

that would indeed make for more damage

[fierce lark]

because of how heat inherit works, the extra heat procs each gain all of the exponentially increasing damage

you're essentially doubling the amount of damage they add, or in better terms, halving the amount of heat sunders you need to cast before cold

[gleaming oasis]

So it is hesat then freeze or freeze them before heat?

[fierce lark]

you heat sunder as many times as you need to for the cold sunder to 1shot

(cold sunder a few times first to stack arcane ice storm & charge battery)

you can also mach rush or melee attack a few times to keep battery up between heat sunders, until redline is fully charged

also i wouldn't waste the endo on archon flow, personally

10% chance for an energy orb every 10 seconds is pathetic, and thats assuming cold sunder detonations even count since it's doing blast damage

[gleaming oasis]

what should be swapped out for vitality?

[fierce lark]

streamline

[novel bear]

Harmony

[velvet pulsar]

Ooooo

[fierce lark]

oh true

wait no it doesn't it only double dips

[velvet pulsar]

1. Main dmg
2. DoT
3. Expedite Suffering trait

[woven lynx]

is this a good build?

maybe I should switch

[fierce lark]

i dont think roar applies to expedite effects

the only two sources i could find that mentions status dipping at all says faction damage double dips on the initial hit and forced slash dot

[velvet pulsar]

Expedite Suffering effects take consideration of your DoT's status duration and status damage to deal an instant condensed damage.

It might be possible that the faction bonuses straight up only multiply the DoT side and not the condensing calculation

Or it might be possible that it triple dips anyway

[fierce lark]

it double dips

just tested, between the 3 different consistent damage values i was getting the lowest one was 3k, adding base smite 1.3x it went from 3k to 5k

[velvet pulsar]

I guess I have no other option but to use Xata Blast Careen

[astral tinsel]

Not the best imo

[woven lynx]

I am aiming for crit build not hipfire

[astral tinsel]

Stacks way too much crit chance, but only a single crit damage mod

[woven lynx]

and I am not spending 300 plat on mod

[astral tinsel]

I'd replace crit delay with bladed rounds at the very least

[velvet pulsar]

Is there any pistol mod similar to bladed rounds?

[astral tinsel]

Sharpened bullets

But it kind of sucks

[velvet pulsar]

Gonna slap that on zymos if it's workable

[astral tinsel]

When you can use magnetic might and get extra mag procs

[karmic badger]

I know it's kinda obvious, but debilitate does work with the AX52's biotic rounds, so now its getting a boatload of status procs for free

[fierce lark]

yeah but that involves shooting it with an arcane that isn’t crux

which is how i feel about every gun that debilitate is theoretically good on

[karmic badger]

Biotic already handles status chance

[fierce lark]

it’s less the status chance and more the gun kinda feels like ass without 100% ammo eff

[karmic badger]

Fair, during a Descendia run i had 2 wisps and my fire rate was so high i burned through my entire ammo several times

[fierce lark]

ive run it with deadhead a number of times

it doesn’t even really feel like it kills much faster and having to reload ever is miserable

[karmic badger]

So many QOL stuff you want but can't justify the mod slot

Or arcane

I suppose you could use it on volt for reload speed

[fierce lark]

it’s great on harrow

[karmic badger]

I mean my baseline is already putting tier 4 crits on headshots, imagine what harrow can do with this

Speaking of, need to check prime resurgence

Ah hell ye, harrow prime is rotating in on the 15th

[fierce lark]

a day and a half left to get 1 hydroid piece and then like 7 full weapons

[visual pagoda]

How can I get my khora to have some survivability

[fierce lark]

shield gating is the easiest way

catalyzing shields + any augur mod or brief respite

[visual pagoda]

What piece do you need 🤔

[fierce lark]

you need 1 mod from the auger set or brief respite in the aura

auger pact on your secondary/companion weapon works, or any of the many warframe auger mods

[fierce lark]

neuros

[karmic badger]

Probably not auger accord tho since that's kinda pointless

[visual pagoda]

Alr I'll do it

[visual pagoda]

I have everything but that 😭 I could've given u for free

[fierce lark]

all g, ive made a stupid amount of plat worth of stuff grinding for these

[visual pagoda]

I'll have to grind deimos bounties again and prepare my money for more prime resurgence

😢

[worldly oyster]

if im using volt do i still need stormbringer?

[karmic badger]

If you're using shock trooper not really?

[fierce lark]

it pushes status weighting towards your main damage source, and feeds into the status damage, probably still worth unless you need the slot for something else

[velvet pulsar]

Tenet Glaxion

Debilitate can allow it to proc augment without needing cold

Unless you're using melee careen or companion primer with shivering contagion in which case Debilitate isn't much helpful

[karmic badger]

So you going for viral heat?

[fierce lark]

while cool, i dont actually think i would slot that mod on the glaxion ever

[velvet pulsar]

Viral magnetic and letting Debilitate proc some DoTs

[fierce lark]

even with external cold

it's just worse hammer shot

which already probably isn't making the cut

[velvet pulsar]

Energy orb spawner is nice

Constant Energy Conversion and Arcane Eruption

[fierce lark]

sold on eruption

[karmic badger]

Eruption user, based

[unborn wadi]

can somone share me thier gara prime build

other then ninjase one

[worldly oyster]

does the shock trooper add up to the status effect dmg?

[coral plank]

What do you think guys, should I put Arcane Blessings on Shadow or just max rank the umbrals

[velvet pulsar]

Are u using Circumvent?

[coral plank]

No, but Im using Persistence, should I use that instead of Blessings?

[mighty flare]

blessing if using persistence

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[coral plank]

Thanks THE MEATS

[mighty flare]

you're welcome Ronthecheeseman

[coral plank]

Time to max rank it

[mighty flare]

blessing is what you usually run to force persistence on frames that don't have the health for it

[coral plank]

Good thing I have ideas what to do if im using it on Shadow

[velvet pulsar]

I should max rank blessing

[coral plank]

Its pretty fast to get when you think about it, just 5 Mephicas each

[velvet pulsar]

Blessing isn't maphica

I think that's from voruna farm on conjunction survival

[fierce lark]

blessing is lua thrax plasm

[coral plank]

Oh.. wait, you said Persistence before you edited it lmao

Don't try to gaslight me XD

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah was mixed up typing THEN when I realized I've already maxed persistence.

But your comment was definitely several seconds later

Conjunction won't be too horrible farm

Maybe I could make some nice plat as well

[coral plank]

I sometimes practice my Uriel in Conjunction

I like to see the place burn

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if squadmates can see the whole map effect or only the ground burning

Coz I've never seen allied Uriel's Brimstone.

[coral plank]

Either they never used it or maybe you turned the visual effects low

[hushed harbor]

how realistic is 100%+ crit on Epitaph Prime

i need a secondary to go all in on heat damage with to work with ember

i plan to use Topaz shards and a heat arcane for secondaries

[coral plank]

Charged and Direct Hit do good

AOEs not so much

[hushed harbor]

yeah i need aoe

[coral plank]

Yeah AOE doesnt have Crit as I remembered correctly, only the latter two

[hushed harbor]

ugh

what’s a good aoe crit secondary

besides akarius p

i dislike the stagger and knockback, and ammo count, and i don’t want to use secondary fortifier

i suppose a beam weapon is fine too

maybe i’ll try Atomis

idk how its crit is tho ugh

Nukor has really high crit damage but super low crit rate

what about SMGs

[woven lynx]

where can a fella get umbral form

[hushed harbor]

is Afuris P good?

[coral plank]

Undortunately either 100% resistance to knockbacks are either 2-4 mods or Primed-SF

[woven lynx]

the build that I want to make requires 3 umbral polarities

[coral plank]

Do the umbra quest

[hushed harbor]

yeah that’s why i dont wanna use akarius

i don’t wanna build PSF

[woven lynx]

this is one of the most expensive shit I have seen

idk kengineer is a sucker for Lavos it seems

[hushed harbor]

omniforma builds made for specific factions with 5 diff loadouts with a different bane mod in each

[coral plank]

Finishing the Finish The Sacrifice quest, youl get all the 3 Umbral mods unranked

[woven lynx]

i need forma

umbral formas

[hushed harbor]

xd i don’t remember where to get umbral forma

[coral plank]

I think the only way you can get Umbrals almost constantly are from Teshin's steel path

[hushed harbor]

nightwave?

r u sure sp has umbral forma

i go to teshin’s shop a lot

and never buy umbral forma

i normally get riven ciphers and relics

[woven lynx]

he doesn't have any

[coral plank]

Hmm

[hushed harbor]

i think they come from nightwave

[abstract bison]

here's my persistence lavos build

[hushed harbor]

u can check the wili

wiki

[coral plank]

Im checking the wiki on which Secondaries have the highest crit

[hushed harbor]

u can do that?

[coral plank]

Its Cestra, but tell me, do you care about using Incarnon?

[hushed harbor]

dual cestra?

[coral plank]

Just Cestra I see

[hushed harbor]

hm

maybe, what are the top 10?

[woven lynx]

I want multipurpose build

Like I want lavos be a warframe that I can do literally everything

outside of spy missions lol

[coral plank]

Second place to the highest CC is Epitaph Prime

[hushed harbor]

wot

oh the charged shot

[coral plank]

The 10th last of the Highest CC is Onos

[hushed harbor]

i suppose i can build for charged shot

[coral plank]

Oh Look Tenet Plinx has a good cc on AOE, strange

[hushed harbor]

epitaph if it

it is*

[near vortex]

Tenet Plinx is so fun

Pocket boomstick of explode crap

[hushed harbor]

yeah but it staggers u and knocks u back

[near vortex]

don't walk into the AoE
Or have overguard
Or PSF
Or Unairu
or be a frame immune to knockdown

There's more than one way to strip that cat

[coral plank]

Kunai with a fully evolved Incarnon has a base 40% cc if you have "primary quipped?"

[hushed harbor]

the reason i don't want to have knockback is because i am not using any of these things for a reason

[near vortex]

You have to swap to your Kunai from your primary weapon

And then you get the 40% for 4 seconds

[coral plank]

Nevermind then

[near vortex]

It's super strong if you can manage it, consistent red crits with headshots

[coral plank]

For a Slow ass like me, 4s is way too long, actually, does this refresh?

[near vortex]

It refreshes if you swap out and back in immediately, yeah

Basically just resets the timer any time you swap from primary to secondary, which honestly isn't that hard to remember to press F twice

Or use primary as a main weapon and have the back pocket Kunai to delete some problem targets

[dense fox]

How do I equip a incarnon

[granite flame]

speak to cavelero on the zariman to install it to your weapon of choice, if you have that corresponding weapon of course

[spare swift]

Do you guys think if i'd use Rage on Valkyr without Flow that would be enough energy to effectivley be in hysteria 24/7?

[fallow mist]

what am i doing wrong w my laetum? im using uriel w it btw, hence the cascadia flare. also no crit build

[karmic badger]

My only complaint is reload delay on the battery

[karmic badger]

The lack of galvanized mods is the issue

[fallow mist]

which galvanized should i be using?

[karmic badger]

Also your status weighting is off, it should be more heat than viral

[karmic badger]

Multishot and status chance

[fallow mist]

heat? for the cascadia flare proc?

but im trying to make a build for acolytes

[karmic badger]

And because heat scales infinitely, regardless its better in cases where it isn't capped and the same for capped targets

[fallow mist]

interesting!

[karmic badger]

You hit the status cap instantly with the fire rate and status chance regardless of the ratio. So having more heat will only help against non capped enemies

[fallow mist]

so leave viral, and only heat? or just make heat be the focus?

[fierce lark]

this isn’t realistic without primed heated charge

[fallow mist]

hey saryn 😄

[karmic badger]

I mean he could swap pathogen rounds for heat 60/60

[fierce lark]

that wouldn’t be good either

what’s needed is galv shot

[karmic badger]

Well replace auger pact

[fallow mist]

what else?

but does galv shot works for acolytes since i wont be killing anyone? only the acolyte?

[fierce lark]

you would want to stack it on a few enemies before the acolyte spawns

[fallow mist]

got it

[fierce lark]

also use some of the endo to rank it to at least 8

[fallow mist]

yep, im on 9

[karmic badger]

Gonna have to build up incarnon charge anyways so you'll need to clear some fodder

[fallow mist]

the rest is all right?

[fierce lark]

let me double check that critless laetum even runs galv shot

[fallow mist]

oh shit

[fierce lark]

might not work on the incarnon form at all

[fallow mist]

😭

just spent 20k endo and almsot 1 mil credits

[karmic badger]

Its mandatory for most pistols anyway

[fallow mist]

but i'll be using laetum for a long time 😭

[karmic badger]

The only secondaries i know that doesn't use it is the Akkarius

[near vortex]

Yeah, it makes it nice as something you pull out and put away pretty quick
I like Garuda's Blood Forge to skip the reload entirely

[fierce lark]

yeah galv shot doesn’t work on laetum aoe

it’s still usable but other mods are better

galv diffusion was more important anyway, multishot mods > co mods

[ornate lake]

Hello, someone can explain me how Is possibile Uriel can go invisible?
Ive found a build online but theres no explaination

I leave the video reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frF13aqhvAE

[fierce lark]

he’s using shade

[karmic badger]

Its either a shade or a huras kubrow

[ornate lake]

Thank you!

[fierce lark]

it’s shade, can see it in the video

[fallow mist]

is shade even good for uriel?

[ornate lake]

I was going Crazy trying tò undestand this ahah

[fallow mist]

oh well. i'll need some credits now lol

[woven lynx]

why tf I cant purchase umbra forma without plat????

[karmic badger]

Shade is good in general when paired with arcane Crepuscular

[woven lynx]

wtf is this???? does DE not want my money?

I wasted 160 plat on omni forma thinking it was umbra

[near vortex]

Huras Kubrow my beloved
Sometimes I statstick my primary just for my Kubrow

[fallow mist]

oh shit

[karmic badger]

Mecha set shenanigananery

[fallow mist]

well at least omni is more useful than umbra 😄

[woven lynx]

I need umbra to finish my set tho

[karmic badger]

Are you trying to build a triple umbral lavos or something?

[fallow mist]

wait, i think my galv diffusion is leveld

[woven lynx]

yes lol

[near vortex]

when the 140% CC 13x multiplier 300% status Kubrow claws:

[woven lynx]

@karmic badger I do indeed

[fallow mist]

so saryn what else?

[fierce lark]

not really, uriel kinda needs his guns to kill things in between 3 casts and between brimstones, plus 2 full heals and makes him immune temporarily + status cleanse, he doesn’t really need the invis

[karmic badger]

Yeah lavos is pretty much first guess when it comes to triple umbral

[fallow mist]

yeah, i thought the same

[karmic badger]

I suppose its mostly for the 30% power strength from Crepuscular

[woven lynx]

I am copying kengineers build tbh

[fierce lark]

auger pact accelerated isotope

[woven lynx]

multipurpose and all that but it is odd that you can not get umbra forma by buying it in market

[karmic badger]

I suppose you could try and forma around it

[fallow mist]

damn, shame i formaed my laetum

for the galv shot

wasted a forma 😭

cascadia flare is all right, tho, right?

[fierce lark]

it’s fine, you can run that or deadhead

[fallow mist]

btw, saryn, do you know what are good melee options for wisp?

[karmic badger]

Probably utility preados?

She's not really a melee frame imo

[fierce lark]

am not a wisp specialist, some flavor of utility melee or glaive

or hammer

[karmic badger]

Breach surge shenanigananery

[fallow mist]

how come? invisibility, speed

[karmic badger]

Her speed motes don't boost melee attack speed

[fallow mist]

i was sure they did

[lavish orbit]

Mandela effect of melee speed boost ?

[lavish orbit]

It does lock up so much potential in builds around lavos :c

[karmic badger]

I just checked, it does, but less than fire rate

Its 20% attack speed vs 30% fire rate

Glaive would probably be the best offensively cause you can stay airborne

[fallow mist]

glaive prime lost to that corpus one right?

[karmic badger]

Most glaives are good, though i think people would agree on either glaive prime or falcor

[sick helm]

is helminth charger REALLY the best companion for nidus

[versed harbor]

nope

[sick helm]

💔

what is it 🥀

[frank cloak]

how to get amalgam serration

[coral crest]

Thermia Fractures

Doing them awards all non-weapon specific augment mods

It's guaranteed, you just need to fulfill milestones

And finishes with a neat weapon

[velvet pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-opticor-shoot-gif-27243522

[maiden phoenix]

hello guys, why do people mod or even care about secondaries? I have played nearly 100 hours and I almost never used my pistol (intentionally) ever. I always just alternate primary, abilities and melee. what is the purpose of the secondary weapon?

[karmic badger]

Pistols are really strong at the endgame, due to a myriad of factors such as arcanes, prime mods, and general stats

Its only recently that primaries are catching up in terms of build variety

[maiden phoenix]

are you saying that in end game people mainly use secondary weapons?

[quiet laurel]

secondary weapons are better than primaries at end game

melees being strongest rn

[karmic badger]

Well that's mostly due to melee influence

[quiet laurel]

doesnt change the fact

[karmic badger]

Pistols have more varied and slightly stronger arcanes

The laetum, lex prime, kuva nukor, dual toxocyst, etc etc are really strong

[quiet laurel]

pistols also have better primed mods

[karmic badger]

For primaries its what? Torid, burston, and phenmor? I don't know a primary that isn't an incarnon that competes with the top dog secondaries

Maybe the tenet and coda weapons

[velvet pulsar]

Primaries been getting good arcanes later than secondaries

Not to mention pistols have more exalteds which clearly shows DE's favourite.

[quiet laurel]

for primaries its sobek with saryn/cyte and oraxia that outshines other strong secondaries but thats more of a niche combo

[velvet pulsar]

Bubonico

[karmic badger]

Mfw i bek my So

[quiet laurel]

the problem of primaries is that in theory a lot of them are good cause of multi gunCO but its also really ass since once you lose the stacks all your damage is gone

[karmic badger]

Not alot of them are mulit gunCO

[velvet pulsar]

Warframe players when they see someone with surname Sobek:

[velvet pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-rick-dalton-point-finger-pointing-hand-right-there-gif-20349799

[quiet laurel]

and the elemetal arcanes for primaries are also just really niche/bad on general builds

debilitate was a breathe of fresh air but didnt fix a whole lot

[karmic badger]

Its either crux or debilitate for status builds, or deadhead for crits

[quiet laurel]

overcharge

[karmic badger]

Blight and frostbite are mostly for shotguns

[quiet laurel]

a huge problem with blight is that it doesnt register toxin procs correctly

[velvet pulsar]

Overcharge with even half its max potential is quite strong

[quiet laurel]

another primary that rivals secondaries is sybau incarnon

[karmic badger]

My dera incarnon may not be meta, but it is fun

[velvet pulsar]

U shall not mix that gun with brainrot

[karmic badger]

And its good enough to handle elite archimedias

[velvet pulsar]

Respectfully, Sybaris the burst shotgun

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon or Incarnoff?

[karmic badger]

Both

Depending on the time of day

[velvet pulsar]

Depending if aurora borealis summons

[karmic badger]

Sometimes i want an infinite ammo laser gun

Sometimes i want a semi auto discount opticor

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnoff can become one of the highest projectile speed primaries in the game

I once used it against Grofit Maker ranged meme run

[coral plank]

Does Melee Careen work on Acolytes?

[velvet pulsar]

Only applies 4 cold procs
Doesn't allow bonus damage

[coral plank]

Ghmmm

[steady heron]

Whats yall irradiate builds looking like ? I tried many things but i always find i get better results going for like deadhead or conjunction electric whatever whatever multishot arcane

Im trying to make irradiate work on big damage dealers nuke secondaries and usually get my rad procs playing nyx or using smite

But yeah like i said idk everythinf i tried so far feels very underwhelming is the arcane mid ?

[velvet pulsar]

It is mid

It's blast status with plastic surgery

Not to mention you'll limit that gun to trash mob clearer rather than bosses who have a status cap of 4.
So you won't reach 10 radiation stacks against them anyway

[velvet pulsar]

Atleast Debilitate can use 2 tau green shards for corrosive cope

[steady heron]

Gotcha thanks thats the feeling i was getting but needed to make sure

[karmic badger]

Yeah sure 4 electric and toxin procs will certainly help

[steady heron]

Its a clever idea i guess but very poorly implemented especially for secondary given how powerful those already are

[velvet pulsar]

I mean
If it ain't universal then it's niche

Take example of any pre-existing trash mob clearer secondary, like ocucor

U don't use ocucor against bosses unless u have arcane Pistoleer

[karmic badger]

Atomos shenanigananery

[velvet pulsar]

Even then I'm not sure if that'll work out

Time and again it is proved that the best arcanes are the ones which give considerable bonus with simple trigger like Molt Augmented, Secondary Enervate, and the all new Arcane Concentration.

[void lake]

Heya, does the slash tick damage from Garuda's 4 scale with how much damage our 1 deals to enemies? (assuming I hit them with 1 after they are marked with 4)

[steady heron]

Yeah exactly only example of a trash clearer i tried on is riot but that one is also unfair because the synergy it gets with enervate. But like with irradiate it was probably a little better at clearing like trash trash more aoe and all that but would struggle against eximus where with enervate would compensate

[coral crest]

yes. her 4 slash priming causes any dmg you do to apply slash as if it had a 100% chance to do so

[void lake]

Ahh I see, thank you!!

[coral crest]

so any gun, any pet, any ability

[velvet pulsar]

Resonatoruda

[steady heron]

Im sure theres “THE” irradiate weapon out here but i don’t care to find out lmao

[coral crest]

even acid shells

[velvet pulsar]

[coral crest]

Desiccation Garuda

[velvet pulsar]

Smiteruda

[coral crest]

and separate dmg instances too

like Xata, it would proc slash twice

[severe bough]

Roar cyte when

[velvet pulsar]

Vulcan Blitz

[coral crest]

Vulcan Blitz too

dont forget that she also has a 100% eclipse on

[velvet pulsar]

It was a thing back when WarframeKnowers plagued us

[coral crest]

just garuda things

[icy light]

I wish to god that Volt's Shield was his subsume.

Anyway. Vectis on Gyre is working as intended. I am working on the Vectis P build alr. So. I have... Primed Chamber, Galv Scope, Primary Acuity.
uh.... I think Crit Delay + Vital Sense are going to be on there. Orokin Bane as well, one of those slots was a -magazine mod forgot which one it was... and then.... there's one slot I might just use Target Acquired.

Thoughts?

Might use Two Electric Dmg shards and Two Electric Vuln shards... but the fifth I am blanking on. Maybe Dur/Str or the Natural Talent one.

I suppose it focuses more on her Weapons Platforming aptitude, but really I was using her other builds like a Caster frame so. No difference really.

[hushed harbor]

trying to max all the cavia arcanes and oh my god it's taking so long

[vocal vector]

Just buy them

[hushed harbor]

i have a whopping 20 plat

[vocal vector]

Then farm plat?

[hushed harbor]

WOW

[icy light]

Oh yeah what if. They require 21 each to max right?

[coral crest]

dont rush cavia arcanes

[hushed harbor]

i didn't ask for advice

[icy light]

@hushed harbor Did you try running Cavia Arcane rolls with vosfor?

Recycling excess arcanes into Vosfor through... I think Loid Actually. It isn't directly choosable but he can dissolve them.

[hushed harbor]

yes i literally just rolled 3k vosfor for what u see on the screen

[icy light]

Well then womp.

You're gonna have to farm raw standing for the Cavia if you ran out of vosfor drops.

[hushed harbor]

don't womp me i didn't ask

ik what im doing

[coral crest]

woah

impressive

[cinder thistle]

Why are you maxing arcanes you will never use ?

[hushed harbor]

why not

[cinder thistle]

Ok

[tardy geyser]

its like collecting them dude, let him

like how those ppl that collect legos they will never play with, just showcasing them

[hushed harbor]

i have majority of the arcanes in the game maxed

im maxing them all

[cinder thistle]

Yeah ok same but it's not a race, it's a marathon. I never felt It was long because I'm not aiming at getting them the fastest

[hushed harbor]

neither am i

i just like complaining

which i can't seem to ever do without unsolicited "advice"

[cinder thistle]

Well yeah...nobody wants to hear someone complain and not take any advice

[hushed harbor]

and nobody wants to hear lame captain obvious "advice"

[cinder thistle]

You either take the advice or toughen up, it's build discussion channel here, not "vent about arcanes then complain more when ppl try to help"

[hushed harbor]

it's actually discord where i do whatever the hell i want

[cinder thistle]

Damnnnnn, peak behavior, amazing

[hushed harbor]

thanks, got it from my therapist

[cinder thistle]

For real, go complain in another channel, it's for builds here.

[hushed harbor]

arcanes are related to builds, and the channel was already opened when i opened the server

and there is 0 point in telling me what to do

[cinder thistle]

Plz stop arguing and just go vent somewhere else, no one cares about your little fit this morning

[hushed harbor]

then shut up?

ur the only one keeping this going

im only responding to u

ur not my boss either

[cinder thistle]

There's different channels for a reason, if you don't respect the rules it's your call to get the boot for it

[hushed harbor]

and if i get booted, that's my problem

i need ideas on what i should put in my last slot

[prime lava]

guys what build should i go for with acceltra? hunter munitions crit or blast?

[tardy geyser]

what's the sampotes again?

is it that wave generating thingy?

[coral crest]

Duviri hammer with waves on slam

[tardy geyser]

ahh then i'd say killing blow might work but its your choice really

whatever makes the numbers green

[storm grotto]

idk if its jsut me but the prisma angstrum on mag seems underwhelming and honestly seems better in base form, am i trippin

[tardy geyser]

idk what that does

[old marsh]

bounce

[severe bough]

Use aflictions over animosty
And tox

[exotic silo]

finally broke visual damage cap (and noticed it), Kubrows are something else. 951 billion damage with 1 tick of a heat DOT

[hushed harbor]

will try it, tho afflictions isn't r5 yet

[severe bough]

Also if your not using kullervo use double saci

[coral crest]

That poor moa lol

[severe bough]

iirc its pretty cheap

[crisp pine]

How you get to that screen?

[nova swift]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/EE.log

[nova swift]

I felt the same way, prisma angstrum feels better on someone like koumei or citrine. Tenet detron was doing more for me

[woven lynx]

it is beyond me how people make lavos

nuke entires maps I geniunly dont get it

[coral crest]

It's called abilities and a correct pet

[woven lynx]

panzer vulp does not fit?

[coral crest]

No

Correct pet is half of the requirements to setting everything on fire with him the right way

Same kind of applies to every frame that's designed with a lot of status vomit in mind

[karmic badger]

Its mecha set shenanigananery

[coral crest]

Citrine, Voruna, Koumei

[coral crest]

Not necessarily, not at all

[compact cypress]

how goods the akarius prime nowadays? just picked it up wondering if i should build that or the exergis first

[karmic badger]

I don't like em that much

Damage is decent enough, but the ammo sustain is abysmal

Slightly better than the acceltra tho, that thing is a noob trap

[compact cypress]

basically like the acceltra but pistol form?

[compact cypress]

one which i fell for heavily lmao, still love the thing tho

[karmic badger]

The Akkarius have much bigger blast radius, and don't have an arming distance

[coral crest]

It's either mecha set kubrow, or a Summoners hound

[karmic badger]

"what the dawg doin?"

[coral crest]

Mecha set kubrow gives more freedom to picking the dog but relies entirely on you for priming

Summoners hound wrecks shit and gives guardian, and wrecks shit a lot more than any mecha set kubrow

[green gyro]

very good

one of the best secondaries imo

beat option for things like netracells also

[coral crest]

The key is to realize how every single status vomit frame will inadvertently proc manifold bond, essentially giving your robotic pet 0 ability cooldowns

And how Summoners Wrath is a faction bonus for them

And hounds do 90% of their damage with abilities while priming everything in existence

Mecha set is just setting up a nuke on a marked target, meanwhile

If you build your hound right it might go apeshit and leave you with 99% squad's damage for the rest of the mission

These things are scary

And with any frame that gives them constant status fuel they're even scarier

Mecha Kubrow is much more useful with quality mods though

You can achieve the same destructive hound potential on any frame that inflicts a lot of different status effects

[karmic badger]

I love seeing the purple status markers, all of the sudden my screen is filled with big purple symbols of puncture, slash, heat, viral, radiation, and magnetic

[coral crest]

But Voruna is probably the best

Since Lycath's Hunt feeds Restorative Bond

Oh, and Citrine as well

Citrine probably even more so, since she gets the augment

But Summoners Wrath Lavos is still my flavor of choice

[karmic badger]

Need to tinker with my lavos again

Currently i only use him as a gun platform

And not sure how much i wanna use persistence on him

[gray quarry]

I see citrine

[coral crest]

Yes Citrine

[gray quarry]

Gem[redacted]

[coral crest]

Sparkling

[cinder thistle]

Why the helly did DE made Ice Storm not being triggered by companions lmaooooo

I guess I'll slot energize again then, you won DE, bravo

[gray quarry]

Ice storm?

[cinder thistle]

Arcane Ice Storm

[gray quarry]

Ah

[cinder thistle]

Pretty much all the other arcanes can be triggered by companions, makes no sense

[lavish orbit]

Frozen enemy by companion don't do the trick ? (Overguarded can't be frozen)

[cinder thistle]

No, and wiki specifically says companion weapons can't trigger it. I was trying to find an arcane for Gyre other than Augmented

[severe bough]

Aegis, concentration

[cinder thistle]

I don't need energy, I ain't dying, and the duration of the 4 is fine because of the Augment. So yeah.

I was using Concentration but eh

[karmic badger]

Rage

[severe bough]

I only use it because im not running pcont lmao having some duration on platformer is not bad

[gray quarry]

Lemme see what I run

actually ik what I run, I run augmented

[cinder thistle]

I thought about acceleration but then it doesn't work with Shotguns and I'm running Cedo Prime so rip to that idea as well

[gray quarry]

Augmented steadfast

[cinder thistle]

I think I'll try Rage at that point

[latent latch]

What is a good exclusive for a gun platform uriel?

[karmic badger]

Exclusive?

Like arcane? Subsume? The actual weapon?

[latent latch]

Sorry auto correct I meant exilus

[karmic badger]

Ain't much in the exilus that'd help, maybe just power drift go buff the ammo drops and damage vulnerability?

[hard dove]

The usual power drift or psf

[near snow]

What ability can I subsume on Uriel for norish

[heady wagon]

I could use some input pls guys.

Stuck to decide on amp. I’m bit tired of the grind but I can build
777, 547, 5,7,7

I read many mixed inputs. One says 1-7-7
Another 1-4-7 is best since old peace?
Which one??? I don’t wanna build all to test. Cba

[hard dove]

Dedicated weapon platform probably subsume 4 or 1

[karmic badger]

Subsuming brimstone is heresy

[hard dove]

547 or 147 for general use/last gasp use

777 or 577 for eido/cascade

[near snow]

I need 1 for my orange tauforge shard and hotshot. I need to proc heat. And I wanna make it a hybrid

[hard dove]

Then don't subsume

[cinder thistle]

Depends of the content you doing. I have a 7-4-7 and it's very good for Angel/Thrax and killing random enemies as well now with the new mods.

[near snow]

Nothing else I can subsume?

[hard dove]

If you're going for hybrid he has really tight subsume slot

[glass cloak]

Can anyone give me a gauss or dante build pls

[near snow]

Yeah, how else can I proc viral efficiently though

[hard dove]

There's like 10 companions who can do that

[woven lynx]

any suggestion for credit farm fellars

I am a Lavos main now

[near snow]

I swear the panzer ain't procing enemies Infront of me

[karmic badger]

Chroma's 4 on legacyte safes

[steady stirrup]

Which primaries are good for priming?

[woven lynx]

don't have him

[karmic badger]

Cedo

[hard dove]

Sentinel with tazicor/multron

[karmic badger]

Then just legacyte safe with credit boosts/blessings

[hard dove]

Bubo, Cedo, Basmu

[near snow]

Alright can I do it with the vulkukor the thingy from diriga cause I wanna get the crit bond thing and also proc viral

[coral crest]

Scourge is also a decent single target primer

Innate corrosive and high status

And has the funny headshot field

[woven lynx]

what should I put here mates

[woven lynx]

What else?

[heady wagon]

Is the 4 the disc alt? This build with 7-x-7 seems to be popular for eidolon & cascade. Good for angel too? @hard dove

[novel bear]

Profit taker

[hard dove]

4 is the disc alt
4 is not that good for st dmg tho

[woven lynx]

have not gained rep with fortuna yet

[karmic badger]

Index

[woven lynx]

anyway what should I put here for priming?

[heady wagon]

I might just go with 777. This should be good enough for most content right? Just the range thing is a (?).

Especially if some target in air or away?

Better range is 577?

Or balance*

[hard dove]

777 is very limited in range yes

[woven lynx]

ty

[hard dove]

It's enough to 1 cycle angels tho

[cinder thistle]

I don't need to hit the Madurai 1 anymore and I solo SP Angels

[solar sentinel]

Someone tell me which ones the best and which one sucks

[foggy jolt]

i know it's probably obvious but Archon or Umbral Vitality for Larvos/

[heady wagon]

If I go for “general use strong amp”, just thinking of a random boss.. e.g ropalyst. He normally flies around. Is the 7 range meh for this scenario?

Not to be swapping amps for different content like 😵‍💫

[median heron]

Something like a 147 or 157 is good for almost everything

Sorry 547 second one

[hard dove]

If you intent to use last gap at all 4 is kinda a must

[barren orbit]

right so i have 235% range, and 85% strength, add an extra 90 from the precision intenisfy and it's 175 strength. so 235 range + 175 strength. is there any way i can get a higher number for both of those while maintaining efficiency?

[hard dove]

There's also this one guy i had in circuit who stacked all the gun based decree and just spamming 4 alt fire snh outdoing a Mesa and Hildryn

[median heron]

Shards

[heady wagon]

The disc thing?

Saw clips of room clears with it. But I’m not too concerned about that. Jsut want something to help with easy effortless eidolon, angel, cascade.

[hard dove]

Since you're using equilibrium if almost positive you could drop either flow or efficiency outright

Keeping the efficiency as is I'd say drop flow for something like augue secret
And if energy is still an issue there's archon stretch

[faint knoll]

Use exposure once you unlock arcanes and one tox mod is enough, claws are heavy raw dmg weapons

Oh shit I'm blind

Thought that was valkyr

[solar sentinel]

LMAOOO

[hard dove]

1x7

[solar sentinel]

Nah it's garuda talons

Idrk when I unlock arcanes ngl

[hard dove]

Prism 1 is string enough to one shot synovia

[median heron]

What amp arcanes do people go for nowadays, has anything changed since the new tauron mods

[faint knoll]

Okay i use garuda prime talons
Vermillion storm is a fun stance.
Use melee influence (once you can)
Add an electric mod, base attack speed and the galvanized steel/elementalusy

[fierce lark]

are you not running capacitance? i cant think of any other reason you'd run that much range on volt

[hard dove]

Still the same iirc
Onslaught + headshot one

Eido use the one with energy deplete tho

[solar sentinel]

Right right

[median heron]

Onslaught is the energy deplete one

[hard dove]

What's the one with +dmg on ability

[fierce lark]

eradicate

wonder what's actually better between shadow and strike

[hard dove]

Eradicate + strike then

[median heron]

I do like the logistics one for just spamming

Esp since we now have dmg ms status cc etc on tauron

Maybe the arcane that converts to viral and using magus melt could be decent

[barren orbit]

i agree i'd have to get volt prime so i can get a default 300 it's at 150 rn

i'll keep this in mind though

[barren orbit]

here's a reason: eso nuke

you'd need alot of range to get the entire map

i forgot to clarify that originally mb

265 + 190 strength

alright this seems good, if there's anything i can add to make this better LMK

[steady stirrup]

Is the anku incarnon or hate incarnon better?

[median heron]

Hate

[fierce lark]

you need some survivability for that no?

if you're gonna go max range you may as well add immortality button

[hard dove]

You do not need survivability for eso

Ideally everything dies in like 4 second

[fierce lark]

even if you're grinding to 10 or w/e for vandal parts?

[hard dove]

Volt eso camp in a corner surrounded by shield he's safe

[fierce lark]

mmm

[stray canopy]

all you need for ESO is Saryn, or at least the last time I was doing it

[hard dove]

Can't put all lens on saryn now can you

[fierce lark]

im definitely not familiar with non-saryn eso but yknow

can't wait to do the braton/dera vandal grind when im like lr4

mm corrosive ability dmg shards

[vestal lintel]

Is it possible to somehow deactivate wukongs iron staff attack where he hits the ground with the staff while its vertical?

[compact cypress]

mind sharing a build?

[elder stratus]

molst augemented affect banshe dmg multiplayer ?(sonar)

somone can send a banshe build

[hexed coyote]

Priming enemies with viral and giving you a lifeline? What does the Pharaoh kubrow do that makes anyone wanna use him over the panzer vulpahyla?

[coral crest]

Toxin weapon buff

[hexed coyote]

I play Lavos, this comes with my warframe

[fierce lark]

i would hope not

buffing toxin means you're not buffing something infinitely more useful (gas)

[coral crest]

Also this ability is pretty neat

We have tesla bank at home

[fierce lark]

anyways

+100% noncombining toxin mod buff, a pretty low radius looking viral prime, and it fits kubrow mods so you can run the mecha nuke package

[glossy mauve]

Should I use corrosive or magnetic on my xoris?

[fierce lark]

you should run electric and melee influence

[glossy mauve]

I have not unlocked that arcane

Nor have i unlocked a way to obtain arcanes

[fierce lark]

melee arcanes are unlocked with whispers in the wall iirc

run viral, or run toxin against corpus

[glossy mauve]

This is my current build

[fierce lark]

swap shocking touch with vicious frost and run melee elementalist somewhere, probably in place of organ shatter

or pressure point actually

[glossy mauve]

I would but if I use anything other than shocking touch compatible status, then the status change goes to 18%

[fierce lark]

shocking touch doesn't give status chance, vicious frost does

[glossy mauve]

AYO? isn't flat dmg really good???

[fierce lark]

yeah but killing blow and pressure point are both additive to each other

[steady stirrup]

Whats a good melee except incarnons, ideally something quick too, im not a fan of slow weapons like the scythes

[fierce lark]

organ shatter and galv steel are additive as well so you can drop either pp or shatter

either way you want melee elementalist

[glossy mauve]

Should i just drop both pp and shatter? For maybe more status chance?

[gray quarry]

Copy this, swap riv for 90% elec mod

[fierce lark]

you don't need overly high status chance

if anything you could maybe keep both and shocking touch, and drop virulent scourge for elementalist instead

[gray quarry]

When you get melee arcanes, melee influence

[fierce lark]

please don't run gladiator might on glaives

[glossy mauve]

Ooh aight I'll get elemetalist

[gray quarry]

Why

[fierce lark]

because it maxes out at 5x combo, you're getting 60% cd and 40% cc and the cc isn't doubled on heavies, you're essentially slotting a flawed organ shatter

[glossy mauve]

So this is what ball knowledge looks like huh

[fierce lark]

run power throw in that slot instead, the damage it adds is multiplicative on base damage

[gray quarry]

Hmmmm

[glossy mauve]

Is galvanized elemetalist better or worse than melee elemetalist?

[fierce lark]

for glaive throwing galv is worse

well for this glaive at least

[gray quarry]

But can it be equipped along with volatile quick return

[fierce lark]

yes

[glossy mauve]

For xoris?

[gray quarry]

For xoris and falcor, worse since both have forced elec anyway

[fierce lark]

xoris (and falcor) have forced electricity status on the recall explosion, so you don't need status chance at all

[glossy mauve]

Ooooh

Good thing I didn't by the third one earlier

[fierce lark]

status chance would only matter if you were trying to apply a secondary status like viral

but that's only relevant if enemeis are surviving more than 1 throw

[glossy mauve]

Waste of 20 virtue essence for now

[gray quarry]

Makes them especially amazing for melee influence, cause the forced elec

[gray quarry]

Could’ve sold it

[fierce lark]

galv elementalist is used on every light melee (and some heavies)

just not the ones with forced status that don't need status cahnce

[hexed coyote]

The panzer has viral priming too

[glossy mauve]

I mean, they are in case of lvl 60-80 eximus

[wicked scaffold]

what are some fun thermal sunder subsumed frame builds? i know the nezha one but im not sure how much stronger it would be than just having pyrotechnics

[coral crest]

This isn't viral priming

This is a stored dmg explosion

[hexed coyote]

Oh

[coral crest]

It will be a lot weaker than Pyrotechnics

[fierce lark]

this is why loadout versatility is good

[hexed coyote]

It's also aggro? @coral crest

[fierce lark]

glaives aren't really meant for large targets

they are aoe weapons

[coral crest]

Yes, read the mod actually

[shut skiff]

Reading the mod explains the mod

[glossy mauve]

I thought they were nukes of this game 💀. The more you know

[gray quarry]

Patho is nice for both

[coral crest]

Pretty big difference between single target and crowd clearing

[hexed coyote]

This lowkey sounds better survivability than the panzer, what else the pharoah can do? It has two built in mods, no? Was that one of them? Whats the other?

[fierce lark]

patho just has obnoxiously high damage and guaranteed viral status

[gray quarry]

[coral crest]

Wdym better survivability?

[hexed coyote]

Aggro is good

[coral crest]

Yeah I guess

[fierce lark]

panzer can equip martyr symbiosis and tek assault lol

[hexed coyote]

It's like "not my monkeys" ability from fl4k's green tree in Borderlands 2

[fierce lark]

that beats out anything predasites can do

[gray quarry]

Patho has pretty good dmg and high crit, I think solid status. Makes it a good single target killer

[hexed coyote]

I have that equipped

[fierce lark]

survivability wise

[coral crest]

Evil Nyx with a hound

[hexed coyote]

Predasite can have an enemy draw aggro apparently, also it can equip mecha mods, Lavos upscale

[fierce lark]

it has high dmg for glaives but still not my first choice weapon for acolytes or thrax, or really big armored eximus

[gray quarry]

Fair

[coral crest]

Well we weren't really talking about mecha set

(I prefer Summoners Wrath hound anyway)

[fierce lark]

although patho does 1shot thrax anyways lul

[mighty flare]

you can stack it too with loyal companion, the vulpaphylas are dummy good for surviving

[hexed coyote]

I'm talking about what the pharoah can do over the panzer

[fierce lark]

lavos likes to do things with mecha set and kubrows, so you can run a predasite for that if you want

iirc hounds are way better for that though

[coral crest]

Yeah he just feeds manifold bond like crazy

Kubrows have the advantage of retriever mods and you actually being able to choose one for QoL

Like the invisibility one for caster needs or the shield one if you arent using persistence

[hexed coyote]

Mani what

[fierce lark]

yeah i was gonna say is there any advantage then to a pred over like…huras then

if you’re playing gas nuke

[hexed coyote]

Ahh I see I see, I don't really get it, precept mods are the built in mods in a companion no?

[fierce lark]

it makes companion abilities that affect enemies also apply the status effects on their equipped weapon

“precept mods” are just active abilities

[coral crest]

like coolant leak

[hexed coyote]

And companion ability, like the hounds intercontinental mods?

[fierce lark]

coolent leak, arc coil, etc

[coral crest]

yes, and most of dmg from hounds comes from their abilities

[hexed coyote]

Ok so precept mods are the same as abilities?

[coral crest]

kinda? for pets specficially

[fierce lark]

important to note that the ability has to actually deal damage or apply some kind of status effect for manifold to do anything

[hexed coyote]

And lavos who can proc this as easily as he breathes, can also equip this on a hound?

Alongside the mecha set?

[coral crest]

No, you are not using mecha set with a hound

they use normal melee mods for their weapon and have no set mods

you just use their abilities, and summoners wrath to boost their status dmg

[near vortex]

mecha set is only for kubrows and predasites

[fierce lark]

what lavos does is use the mecha set to spread gas status everywhere, and then the companion uses contagious bond and their own damage + your gas damage to spread that gas even more everywhere

[hexed coyote]

I see I see

[coral crest]

with hounds they just have insane firepower

even without lavos, that you amplify with lavos

[shadow fiber]

so like.. is this good? zero idea how these riven mod stats work

[fierce lark]

what does lavos actually do that's helpful for hounds?

[hexed coyote]

So predasites are still lavos best companion for lavos cuz mecha set?

[hexed coyote]

Proc manifold bond

[coral crest]

they prime for each other, and his heat from catalyze will blow up contagious

[hexed coyote]

I guess

[glossy mauve]

@fierce lark Yo bro if I make an effect with electricity for example corrosive, will my xoris also force proc that? Or will it only force proc the electricity?

[fierce lark]

two good positives and a good negative but one useless positive, it's not ideal

[fierce lark]

it'll always force proc electricity

no matter what's modded on it

[glossy mauve]

Aight

[fierce lark]

also, if you mod corrosive, the forced proc will still be buffed by the electric mod on the weapon

[shadow fiber]

how do I know was good and not good

[gray quarry]

It’ll always force proc elec, it’s built into the weapon so it can’t be changed

[glossy mauve]

Yeah i got that

[celest sparrow]

should my zenith have more dmg or more multishot and crit dmg?

[fierce lark]

good for most weapons is crit chance, crit damage, multishot, fire rate, toxin, sometimes damage and sometimes punch through

you want 3 of these and then a good negative, the good negatives being zoom, ammo max (usually), recoil (usually), and then okay negatives are impact/puncture/slash and damage to infested

[glossy mauve]

Should I use focus energy (40% heavy efficiency and 60% electric)instead of 60/60 viral

[fierce lark]

and then melee weapons usually want crit chance, crit damage, range, attack speed and electricity, with the same negatives above (IPS negatives are actually good because more electric weighting for influence)

[hexed coyote]

How does contagious bond stacks work?

[fierce lark]

uhhhh judge for yourself

if you're regularly killing most enemies with 1 glaive throw then you should run focus energy yes

viral isn't useful if you can't apply it before everything dies

[shadow fiber]

Ohh
Does the same apply to melle riven mods?
Also does cycle mean reroll the stats

[fierce lark]

i put melees right below and yes

[shadow fiber]

Ty

[gray quarry]

When melee influence is involved, viral becomes less useful since it scales iirc

[fierce lark]

he doesn't have influence

[gray quarry]

And idk if the influence spreads viral

[fierce lark]

it does

[glossy mauve]

Does magnetic help with the bubble like shield or just normal shield and overguard?

[gray quarry]

Ik, I said “when”

[gray quarry]

Nah, elec is fine

[fierce lark]

influence spreads everything except IPS

thats why its garbage on glaivep

[gray quarry]

Good to know

[fierce lark]

and heavy spam weapons that force slash procs

[gray quarry]

I should check my patho build

[fierce lark]

you mean nullifier bubbles or frozen eximus? no

[fierce lark]

this is a relatively standard xoris/falcor build, you can probably run the same thing without influence just fine

primed smite is slightly better than power throw without influence if you have it, if you don't have power throw it's pretty easy to farm from lua survival, or you can use voltaic strike/focus energy instead

you should get amalgam organ shatter if the thermia event is up, if not just use regular in the meantime, galv steel is fine to use over sac

[languid oxide]

is there a SILENT xoris build that I can use to take out enemies whilst keeping the stealth multiplier?

[gray quarry]

Yeah, just throw it and don’t explode it. Should be silent

[languid oxide]

alright need to build it for raw damage then ig

[hexed lodge]

I think Loki has an augment to silence his weapons and Banshee's passive, but unsure if they work on glaive detonations

[gray quarry]

Off to check the wiki about glaive explosions

[languid oxide]

currently running lull on cyte09 to farm intrinscs in railjack. aff booster+blessing+potential charm+naramon+stealth multiplier is the goal.

[celest sparrow]

which one should i chose?

[gray quarry]

Nope, xoris recall explosion is silent

So a normal xoris build works @languid oxide

[languid oxide]

got it thanks

[gray quarry]

Actually that’s kinda funny that glaive explosions are silent

[languid oxide]

me when no potato for xoris :C

[gray quarry]

Oof

[hexed lodge]

That's a lot of bonuses~
good luck with that tho

[languid oxide]

bruh i gotta get 2400 intrinsics still. if this isn't suffering....

[gray quarry]

Oof

Gl farming, don’t die

[fallow ether]

hey so I was checking my Titania speedrun frame and I notice that this build on overframe is my 'Combat' build of her. The screenshot shown is my 'Speed' build but for searching a map in a quick amount of time is the one on Overframe better than the Speed build?

https://overframe.gg/build/215181/titania-prime/beguiling-butterfly-titania-dps-general-use/

[mortal canyon]

Peeps, which o the incarnon weapons we have in rotation now has a cool AoE constant attack ?

i imagine angsturm

somebody told me boar, but it's a beam, i thought ti was like a bomb thingy (acceltra style)

[gray quarry]

I think angstrum is bombs, idk

[mortal canyon]

but i just saw a video and it's a beam

[deep grotto]

Gammacor shoots semiauto projectiles that sucks in enemies and blows up

[mortal canyon]

i'm lost now, was it reworked ?

[deep grotto]

They probably misremembered

Or they misremembered how the beam worked
Boar is chain beam, which could technically be considered AOE

[gray quarry]

You should wait for strun incarnon

[deep grotto]

fires 3 beams that autotarget
Each beam can chain up to 2 enemies

Gorgon shoots a projectile that explodes after some time

[mortal canyon]

me wants something like acceltra

i thought gorgon was gonna be good, but it's a burst, wtf

[deep grotto]

Angstrum shoots fireballs that heatseek and also bounce

[hexed lodge]

You are probably confusing it with the Strun Incarnon adapter, which is the one that shoots bombs

[deep grotto]

Or the original person suggesting did

[mortal canyon]

me is noob, idk what's that

[deep grotto]

The strun is a shotgun

[coral crest]

Spoon

[mortal canyon]

i'm noob not stupid xD

[deep grotto]

Then what are you asking 💀

What do you not know

[mortal canyon]

Strun Incarnon adapter, which is the one that shoots bombs

what's the adapter thingy

[gray quarry]

Nu uh, the strun is a gun

[deep grotto]

THESE are adapters

[hexed lodge]

the screenshot you shared those are the "adapters"

[deep grotto]

Full name “Incarnon Genesis Adapter”

Or, just Incarnon

[mortal canyon]

ohhhhh

[gray quarry]

You all are being silly, stop it

[deep grotto]

No

[hexed lodge]

Make me~

[deep grotto]

:3

Oh man Ruby whipped out the tilde
We finished

[velvet pulsar]

-a riven.

[gray quarry]

[mortal canyon]

ok so, the strun is the AoE one

gotcha

[coral crest]

Hi Ruby

[gray quarry]

Strun is funni status shotgun with grenade launcher incarnon

[mortal canyon]

yess that sounds fun

[fierce lark]

incargnargarnaga

[hexed lodge]

Hey Box

[mortal canyon]

not a horrible beam or a burst thing

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/zack-zack-fair-gongaga-crisis-core-ffcc-gif-21275796

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not even sure if that's accurate to call it grenade launcher considering how less the projectile is affected by gravity

[fierce lark]

built strun with 60/60 viral mods and status evo has 400% status chance in incarnon form

lul

[deep grotto]

Im glad you dislike beams
You will henceforth avoid the Torid

[mortal canyon]

angstrum doesn't have an Aoe thingy ?

[fierce lark]

and 40x25 in incarnoff

[velvet pulsar]

Same vibes as vasto incarnoff

[mortal canyon]

phantasma i dislike it. Never tried torid, i lvl it up but never actually tried it

[velvet pulsar]

Only incarnoff
Incarnon is ricochet projectiles (maybe small AoE)

[deep grotto]

Torid’s only a beam when Incarnon’ed

[mortal canyon]

me likes stuff like soma/gorgon with a lot of pew pew pew pew pew like a LMG.

Or AoE explosions stuff like acceltra

[fierce lark]

angstrum looks like singular toxocyst but heat

[deep grotto]

I offer a suggestion: The Trumna

[velvet pulsar]

Angstrum is pew pew pew

[mortal canyon]

high rate of fire ? like soma, gorgon ?

[deep grotto]

Angstrum is “hold button until your gun spews rockets”

[mortal canyon]

with a ton of bullets ?

[velvet pulsar]

High fire rate

[gray quarry]

Ew torid

[deep grotto]

Its a charged shot

Oh incarnon angrstrum

[mortal canyon]

tried it. Me no like charging shots

me wants all the time big boom

[velvet pulsar]

Yes incarnon Angstrum

[deep grotto]

Yeah incarnon angstrum is fullauto richochet fireball

[fierce lark]

akarius p?

[velvet pulsar]

Charging is only the incarnoff limitation

[mortal canyon]

i need the base angstrum right ?

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnon is much better

[fierce lark]

prisma angstrum better

[mortal canyon]

is it tradeable ?

[deep grotto]

Unfortunately Baro just left

[mortal canyon]

55pl damn

[deep grotto]

I have one but im saving it for my bf lol

[velvet pulsar]

That's cheap!

[fierce lark]

if you want an exploding weapon just get the akarius prime

[deep grotto]

They specifically want high fire rate

[mortal canyon]

that's the one that comes with acceltra i think, maybe it will be cool

[velvet pulsar]

How's the headshot?

[mortal canyon]

i love acceltra so much

you turn of brain and pew pew pe epw

[fierce lark]

i have no idea lol ive never used it

i just know it's very popular for open world

[velvet pulsar]

I'll only use akarius if I can proc Pistoleer from it

That's infinite pew pew pew

[fierce lark]

acceltra is cool until you shoot it and it goes click

which happens every like 20 seconds

[mortal canyon]

ihahaha true

[deep grotto]

Infinite ammo relic buff/lohk surge

[velvet pulsar]

I'll also build acceltra then

[mortal canyon]

i mix it with frost's frozen +200 crit

[deep grotto]

God i love it when i get one of those

[mortal canyon]

so ammo is pretty efficient

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer

[fierce lark]

it needs energized munitions or crux and fairly high kpm, which it isn't getting in steel path without a good buff frame

[velvet pulsar]

Pistoleer

[fierce lark]

if you want to play vigorous swap pistoleer sure

[mortal canyon]

akarius has like 8 mag ? sad

[fierce lark]

that sounds like jumping through a lot of hoops to make the acceltra usable lol

[mortal canyon]

not profit

[velvet pulsar]

U get a pistol headshot kill
U switch to acceltra for 10s and create as many bullet holes as u want

[fierce lark]

laetum incarnon

rapid fire grenade launcher, no waiting for adapters, easy to headshot with

[velvet pulsar]

I've tried Exergis and Bubonico alt fire with this strat

It's damn satisfactory

[fierce lark]

i hate forced swapping

[mortal canyon]

ppl head shot with AoE weapons ?

[fierce lark]

the incarnoff is just a high damage rapid fire handgun that shoots bullets

the incarnon form turns into an even rapider-fire grenade hose

[velvet pulsar]

I aim Bubonico in the air, hold alt fire and rotate my cursor then wait for mortar to fall down

[fierce lark]

you have your choice of crit or non crit, both are good

[mortal canyon]

its funny how they made the "incarnON" and "incarnOF" hahaaah

[velvet pulsar]

Incarnoff is us playerbase terminology

[mortal canyon]

ye but it's like very smart

[velvet pulsar]

I believe I saw ninjase say it first

[gray quarry]

Mayhaps

[mortal canyon]

u also have the thingy you use to avoid mosquitoes called off ?

[near vortex]

my current Limbo setup
Once I get the shield regen canticle, vigilante vigor can become umbral intensify or blind rage

[fierce lark]

first time i heard incarnoff was in wfcd when we were talking about new eidolon hunting meta

and someone mentioned strun incarnoff for chill hunts

[gray quarry]

Someone on pc, can you all see how many total times incarnoff has been said

[fierce lark]

in this server? just over 1k

[gray quarry]

Who said it first

[velvet pulsar]

I wonder if there's an easy way to find that out

[near vortex]

Ninjase

[gray quarry]

Good to know

[velvet pulsar]

So that means I was there when the legendary event happened

[velvet pulsar]

My honest reaction: Another Roar user...

But ofc
Lions cannot meow

[mortal canyon]

they can tho

[coral crest]

Can they bark

[velvet pulsar]

I've only heard cheetahs meow

Also I had a cosmic vision today.

Tau update had several other NPC Tenno.
And they had prime sentinels factory.
And oxylus prime was the new one.

[coral crest]

Is there Jennifer English

[velvet pulsar]

And the update brought one new precept for all sentinels and hounds but 2 new precepts for Moas

[barren orbit]

as much as i wanna say you're right i really do think they'll all die before they lay a finger on me

now if things do go side ways

[velvet pulsar]

Main vazarin

[velvet pulsar]

Join us.

[barren orbit]

i'll sacrifice 30 range (augur reach) for it

although as i said this is a new acc and i'm mr4, so eso is probably as hard as it gets, meaning i think i'll be fine for a whileee

but yknow, i do need a general volt build if that makes sense

like this build is overkill for anything related to nuking, but i also just want a volt i could take anywhere and he'd do good

volt is (one of) the most versatile warframe/s in the game

if somebody could help me out with that i'd appreciate it too

[mortal canyon]

thanks for the help with the noob question peeps ❤️

m24 noob here ❤️ hahahaahaah

[barren orbit]

what makes this build lean towards nuking eso and general maps is bc the strength relies on precision intensify which is only for the 4th ability

[velvet pulsar]

I was MR 25 during plague star

[barren orbit]

i'm gonna start working on a normal build

[gray quarry]

[barren orbit]

think of it as a daily car, and that the build i sent above is a porsche 911