builds-discussion

[novel bear]

Do you have a good build for the keles?

[polar yarrow]

Ok then I will keep an eye to get the evolution and look on the wiki to unlock it

[fierce lark]

you can skip scope and crosshairs if you want, they're pretty preference based

[karmic badger]

Yeah headshot conditional crit is an acquired taste

[coral crest]

Unless you run Onos

[fierce lark]

it's less the headshot part and more the "while aiming" part

[hexed lodge]

Galv aptitude can wait too until you get the Incarnon adapter, the priority would be Multishot/Galv Chamber

[coral crest]

This thing's incarnon beam counts as a headshot if the beam even touches the head with its edge

All damage is origin point

[karmic badger]

Spaghetti jank

[novel bear]

Gas clouds do the same thing

[karmic badger]

Yeah, hence my vinquibus build being gas on both sides

Gas clouds spawned by the melee count to refill the rifle's ammo

[polar yarrow]

better ? Now I forma and upgrade it all until incarnon ?

I had a bit of plat and wanted to get a decent build asap as I really do no bloody damage : (

[trim hill]

Once these mods are upgraded, you should be doing much better

[fierce lark]

the mods aren't gonna do anything until they're ranked

aptitude would go in place of serration, and scope would go in place of critical delay/in addition to if you have a free slot after the essentials are slotted

[polar yarrow]

So I remove serration for now ? then I hafve a free spot

[fierce lark]

you remove aptitude until you can rank it up

same with the other two, they're useless at rank 0

[trim hill]

Yeah, you need Serration at this point. You don't have any Arcanes or the Incarnon, raw damage will be very powerful for you.

[hexed lodge]

I'd say keep Serration, until you get the Incarnon adapter. Just rank-up Galv Chamber and then you can slot in the rest with more Forma later on.

[fierce lark]

you should've just done the arbitrations rather than buying the mods from players, arbis give a lot of endo and you need at least 8k per mod to get them to rank 8 and make them at least usable

[trim hill]

Arbies are incredible for Endo. Good point

[polar yarrow]

Ok, will be farming some tonight then,m just bought these 3 I have plenty of others to farm for now

Thanks for pointing it out ... I know what Im doing tonight !"

What about the right side, primary arcane adapter and exilus weap adapter are a must as well ?

[karmic badger]

Arcane yes, exilus no

Exilus is usually for ammo mutation when you're running something like acceltra

[hexed lodge]

Not until you reach steel path, but yes arcane before exilus

[trim hill]

Eventually, Arcanes will hold a big amount of power for your builds. Those are later game, tho, so for the time being, you have to mod slightly differently

[polar yarrow]

noted will hold on to these 2 for now and focus on farming endo and arb and credits

[fierce lark]

once you start doing steel path missions and get steel essence, you can buy the arcane adapter from tesshin on any relay, you don't need to spend plat on it

[polar yarrow]

Noted thanks

[fierce lark]

the arcane itself you could probably dump 20p for a max rank primary merciless

(from players)

[trim hill]

Just playing SP gets you so many primary/secondary arcanes, it's unreal

[karmic badger]

Just be prepared to deal with acolytes

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[trim hill]

You're consistently one of my favorites here

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smirk-dog-smirking-evil-gif-1174039551531775064

[fierce lark]

galvanized sight when

[plain drum]

guys what primaries or secondaries have multiplicative gunco? like the tenet arca plasmor

[hexed lodge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/edit?gid=883121879#gid=883121879

[polar yarrow]

fair but will farm the adapter and not buy it hihi

Oh I have enough to buy one already

[old marsh]

Galvanized archgun mods. Absolute cinema

[coral crest]

Grattler would geniunely destroy the game

It's a multico weapon

[plain drum]

ty

[fierce lark]

i wonder if vigorous swap works in archwing

[karmic badger]

But isn't it also aoe?

[trim hill]

I think it used to at least appear on the buff bar. Idk if it actually applied the buff, tho

[plain drum]

lets say im on one health, and i reload with coda hema, does it kill me?

or do i just get like little to no ammo

or magazine i forgot which is which

[coral crest]

Well the gunco document says nothing about it having any sort of downsides regarding aoe dmg

[trim hill]

Yeah, it can kill you iirc

[coral crest]

But oh well, anyway

[fierce lark]

you can't reload if you don't have the hp to do so

[plain drum]

oh aight

[quiet laurel]

no AoE works on gunCO

[coral crest]

K

Thanks

[hard dove]

How would they know gunco works on grattler if there's no gunco for archgun

[coral crest]

Secondary Shiver is coded as a condition overload bonus

We got arcanes on archguns so its testable now

[trim hill]

Coda Hema does a flat 5%hp reload as opposed to the regular variant's ammo dependent reload

[fierce lark]

hmm

time to see if my coda hema kills me

[trim hill]

Tbf, I haven't used a Hema in a while, so I may be trippin

[coral crest]

time to see if my coda hema kills me

[plain drum]

does hema's reload trigger hunter adrenaline?

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure that counts as self damage and those don't work

[fierce lark]

the coda hema and base hema both consume the same amount of hp per reload

[trim hill]

I thought the coda's didn't scale with proportional ammo. I'm out here spreading misinfo

[fierce lark]

yeah coda works the same way, won't reload if you don't have enough hp

and requires a minimum of presumably 3, because reloading 3 bullets only takes 1hp and it wouldn't let me reload with 2

[jaunty briar]

Is it worth building necramech? If so, can you guys recommend a build for it? (as well as for its exalted weapon too)

[coral crest]

Inserting a blue regen shard out of spite so I could always reload hema

[mighty flare]

theres 2, do you mean voidrig?

[jaunty briar]

yea voidrig

Would necramechs help in steel path alot too?

[fierce lark]

you can't use it in most missions

[jaunty briar]

I wanna know if its really worth it since its a high investment weapon

[jaunty briar]

Oh

[mighty flare]

not really no, can't use in most missions

besides the lua survivals, you only have open-world missions or railjack

[jaunty briar]

Also, Is it better to just stack my archon shards to craft tauforged ones or just use them immediately?

[fierce lark]

cavia missions if you hack the consoles

you can always use them until you have the means to tauforge them, doesn't cost much to remove shards

the only downside to tauforging is you use 3x the shards for 1.5x the benefit, so if you play a lot of different frames it might not be worth it

[coral crest]

You're also gonna need stela for it

A lot of stela

[fierce lark]

yeah if you're trying to make a lot of combination shards you might want to hold off on tauforging

1250 stela to make mesa's favorite set of 5 tau topaz from scratch

[jaunty briar]

I only plan on playing three or four ( wisp, volt, voruna, styanax and possibly ember)

[jaunty briar]

notd

[hexed lodge]

Speaking of which... are there any good Stella farm or just good ol' boxbreaking the sand tilesets?

[fierce lark]

levelcap disruption?

i dont actually know, im not even sure if stela drops from enemies lol

[hexed lodge]

it does but pretty low, like a rare resource.
endurance could make it worth with relic boosters

[fierce lark]

okay no it does drop from regular enemies as a rare drop ig

[trim hill]

I always did relic survivals and got tons of them. The resource bonus from popping extra cabbages can apply to them

[fierce lark]

im not sure if survival, disruption, or just farming vosphene glyphs on mirror defense would be better

[trim hill]

Idk, but mirror defense makes me wanna tear what's left of my hair out

[mighty flare]

The best stela farm (but rng dependent) is waiting for eda to have the relentless tide modifier on assassination then bring loot frames while killing the boss slowly

did that twice and haven't had to farm for stela ever

[hexed lodge]

Aight, ty all

[mighty flare]

besides that you can speed run extermination missions while opening the stela crates

finger crates

ew

[modest vine]

the way it opens up doesnt look any better either

[coral crest]

Do not the crates

[trim hill]

I'm gonna

[fierce lark]

im cratiiiiiiiing

[trim hill]

How much is considered a lot of stela? 🤔

I feel like I'm never gonna go through my 1800

[old marsh]

exterms r pretty bad even if u have resource drop chance booster and blessing. Mirror Defense is the best for farming stela. and 3 crates always spawn at exactly the same spot. so just do 1 wave and u get 50+ stela

[old marsh]

i had over 6k once

now i think i am around 2.5k

[mighty flare]

50 is pretty low ngl, ive gotten more and quicker from exterms

[trim hill]

Idk what my "stela-use-rate" would be. I never paid any mind because I always just open the fingie chests regardless

[old marsh]

thats why i said easily. always give the lowest margins otherwise it sounds clickbait

[mighty flare]

you said best

[old marsh]

all depends on how fast u r combining

[trim hill]

I'm just not, ngl 😔

[old marsh]

ye. it is the best way to farm stela

[mighty flare]

its not...

[old marsh]

sure

[near vortex]

best way to farm stela is to get an alchemy fissure and run that for a while

[mighty flare]

😭

[near vortex]

that's what I do at least
I love me a good alchemy fissure

And I've never target farmed stela

[old marsh]

or EDA Assassination with the spawn modifier

[coral crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/952946035733438575/1458350630019141704/tumblr_ogk4m4h7y71vh3qiro2_400.gif

[trim hill]

I will never struggle for resources this much

[coral crest]

Alchemy

[trim hill]

Alchemy is a goated game mode

If only I could remember to do the obj

[old marsh]

Alchemy is super chill. very lenient fail conditions.

[novel bear]

No, boss dies too fast now

[midnight horizon]

Realistically, is it healthy for Warframe when Melee Influence just dominates the Melee meta?

[coral crest]

No

[old marsh]

ye but if u have a fixed squad, u can extend it. still super rng based now. not consistent like alchemy or MD

[coral crest]

Nerffluence

[old marsh]

it makes even bottom tier melees perform decent. problem is that other arcanes r just sidelined. will have to see what Pablo cooks

[novel bear]

Buff duplicate

[old marsh]

ye

[trim hill]

I hate how much I rely on influence on most melees. Other melee arcanes just aren't good enough in most cases

[novel bear]

And make crescendo give heavy efficiency

[midnight horizon]

Not even bad.

[novel bear]

And undo the afflictions nerf

[midnight horizon]

Just niche.

Melee Influence just needs like one mod to start cooking.

Granted, using Influence lets me run around with a Blast/Elec Nepheri.

[fierce lark]

Lots of guns would be able to keep up with it if influence:
Had like 1/3rd less range
Centered its range on you rather than the enemy hit
Was LoS rather than ignoring walls

Any one of them would be enough

[brittle iron]

how does one build excalibur for sp

[old marsh]

chromatic blade. focus on his 4 and hold e.

[fierce lark]

i tried to build excal earlier because i have a melee crit invig on him

every reference i looked at used triumbral persistence

i told myself "persistence is useless im doing like lvl 200 fissures"

realized triumbral is pretty ass without persistence, and other builds are gonna be impossible without forma'ing off the umbral slots

decided i couldn't be bothered to forma off umbral slots and played valkyr instead

[old marsh]

i never used persistence with Excal. used circumvent and ran ETA 2.5 weeks ago

[hexed lodge]

I am a crescendo glazer, and boi is this annoying

ngl, Circumvent is starting to feel like the "Influence but for survivability"

it is just that good

[trim hill]

I use triumbra + adapt and arcane repear + healing return on my excal

[fierce lark]

circumvent really is the perfect "survivability when you have none built in"

[old marsh]

u really wanna pair it up with RG. status cleanse is nice unless u got wyrm

[wraith fable]

was looking for some thoughts on my braton prime incarnon

[tired ginkgo]

toxin or heat coda bassocyst?

[fierce lark]

viral+heat(electricity if you have primed charged shell), magnetic progenitor

[hexed lodge]

You mean the build? Care to share it?

[trim hill]

Is mag still that good even if using the alt fire to prime? Or might it be better for a third, secret element?

[wraith fable]

just pressing 4 with Zephyr and killing stuff

[celest thicket]

Someone knows if petryfied is considered frozen for Melee Careen?

[hexed lodge]

Looks pretty solid, vigilante (and serration if you don't want to build Merciless stacks) could be swapped to any QoL of your preference.
iirc, with Zephyr i think you may want to push more Crit Dmg because the tornadoes benefit from it

[fierce lark]

ive never pressed altfire on the bassocyst for any reason other than funsies

if you're actually using it to prime things (which is genuinely severe overkill imo) then you'd go elec progen, or w/e you're using as your main damage element (either go elec or if you have vice you can swap elec/heat as needed)

the only other option is radiation for theoretical CO benefits but we don't want the stupid radiation status we want the good electric status

[trim hill]

Dump more power into the DOT element, ye

Poor radiation, lol

[fierce lark]

alternatively if you're playing with some other interesting builds ive seen you can play the progenitor around blastocyst

or gassocyst

[fading kettle]

someone can help and tell me how much i can sell this for plss

[wraith fable]

do you know how I'd go about that? I don't really know what I'd put in its place that'd make things any better for me.

[hexed lodge]

Fire rate mod, and Hammer Shot or Bladed Rounds for +crit dmg
I was gonna suggest Galv Aptitude as well, but I'm unsure if the tornadoes even benefit from it

[fierce lark]

assuming the braton works the same as the burston, incarnon aoe splash isn't affected by aptitude, and aptitude also isn't scaled by the 2nd evo damage bonus

[hexed lodge]

For some reason, I heard Gas is also great for the tornadoes, but don't quote me on it, SajinKahn has a more informed Zephyr video if you are insterested

[fierce lark]

on second looking braton doesn't get hit nearly as hard by the aoe aptitude relationship as burston

[hexed lodge]

Right but it could theoretically replace Serration for base dmg, it's just that tornadoes are really... weird

[wraith fable]

noted noted, I'll look into it

[fierce lark]

i have no knowledge of zephyr's tornadoes or any interactions

[wraith fable]

Ty

[hard dove]

Cuz tornado groups

And reapplies the dmg

[thin hemlock]

does -Projectile Speed affect the beam chaining distance of the torid incarnon? I know it doesn't affect the main beam length.

[hexed lodge]

It ain't about the grouping though, it's about some weird property from the tornadoes... I think it was because the gas clouds also retrigger the tornados' dmg
But again, going off memory here

[wraith fable]

do you think it'll handle steel path decently well-

[hard dove]

Yes that's the reapply dmg part I'm talking about

[hexed lodge]

Ah mb that is on me.

Yea with Zephyr you should be doing great in steelpath

[midnight horizon]

Does anyone know or have a good recommendation of how to get a good build on Caliban (apologies for my english)

[young garden]

how should i build for incarnon sibear ?

do i just spam heavy slams ?
is there a combo that activates it ?

[hard dove]

Razor gyre augment
Win

[midnight horizon]

Thanks!!

[trim hill]

It shouldn't. Beam length is a different stat from projectile speed

[thin hemlock]

Right, was not sure if chaining length follows the same rules for beam length, or if they are treated differently.

[hexed coyote]

Best lavos arcanes?

[hard dove]

Impetus + one of your choice (aegus, grace, augmented, etc)

[hexed coyote]

What does that do? also ichi the witch? Love that!

[hard dove]

Increase strength and efficiency for unique status effect from abilities

And thx

[fierce lark]

projectile speed doesn't affect beam length, but it does affect damage falloff for guns which turn into beams in incarnon mode? or some shit? lmao

it does that on the furis at least

[hexed coyote]

From what I've seen another arcane good on him is the one that steals enemy resistance with rolls

But again lavos is a versatile king

[near vortex]

Xatas acid shells

Very funny with tornadoes

[brazen berry]

does athodai's alt fire with negative fire rate increase the duration of the beam?

[novel bear]

Probably

[proud anchor]

You can do that. Personally I went with arcane careen for the cold status effect every time i roll and went with the perk that gives combo on hitting enemies affected by cold.

[thorny loom]

Been going over some weapon builds. Does Galvanized Savvy work on Astilla Prime? I can't tell

[fathom sky]

Doesn't work on any AoE. Only the slug itself gets Savvy

[old marsh]

Heavy slam gas Cold careen

[hexed lodge]

Looking at the gunCO sheet, the Astilla is additive with Savvy

[lethal aurora]

Felarx mounting momentum trait doesn't always pop when I reload the gun, anyone know why?

tried looking on the wiki - got nothing, I'm using it with Mirage & Energized munitions. Even standing still it sometimes happens. It can start halfway through the reload and get a partial bonus, or completely fail.

[sinful spindle]

does anyone got tips on building caliban prime without the helminth unlocked yet? i got him only last weekend and im searching for tips.

[timid dust]

whats the best coda weapon

[old marsh]

Razor motor. High strength. Decent range. Spawn Ortholysts and use 1.

[fierce lark]

per category or overall?

[old marsh]

All r really good. Anything specific u might be interested in?

[timid dust]

i like thrown melees, so the pathocyst one is interesting

But ofc i wanna know if its even good

[fierce lark]

pathocyst is insane

[old marsh]

Ye. Coda Pathocyst is sooo good

[timid dust]

like i want weapons that can handle sp cap

[fierce lark]

one of the best melees in the game, very close to the best glaive

[timid dust]

thats all i needed to know, no thrown melee can escape my grasp

i yoinked it. any builds you suggest?

[quiet laurel]

falcor is the current best cap trash killer glaive

[old marsh]

Coda Hema for 720+ hp frames
Coda Catabolyst

[fierce lark]

take a copypaste exploding xoris/falcor build and replace shocking touch/melee elementalist with their status-chance counterparts (galv ele voltaic strike)

[old marsh]

Tenet Falcor when

[quiet laurel]

gunco weapons always ass for cap ngl

unless you play solo

the moment you lose stacks say bye bye to your dps

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-zoning-out-cat-stare-black-cat-black-cat-tiktok-stare-gif-6568742496074847242

[fierce lark]

i think the best weapon for general use is the dual torxica tbh

[quiet laurel]

it can work but you gotta hunt enemies like crazy and that can be a bit difficult at cap when your whole squad is playing equinox/seva/magistar

[timid dust]

soo any builds for coda pathocyst, to handle cap?

[old marsh]

I am more surprised u got 7 Forma on Falcor before max rank influence

[quiet laurel]

would recommend max rank whirlwind

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/brother-ew-ew-what-is-that-whats-that-brother-gif-14318384540422820315

[timid dust]

thank you

[old marsh]

Hildryn better

[quiet laurel]

also if you use it for cap trash killer you might as well use faction mod instead of killing blow

[fierce lark]

i think primed smite is slightly better than power throw, not positive

pthrow is multiplicative with base dmg but smites triple dip influence procs

[quiet laurel]

you are in the mission for an hour at least so cant complain about having to switch it all the time

[old marsh]

Ye coz KB is additive

Which sucks

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[fierce lark]

killing blow is +windup, and it's the only base dmg source in this build, you'd have to run a melee dmg arcane or like vex armor or smth

[quiet laurel]

also 90% elec mod instead of 60/60

[fierce lark]

patho has to drop +windup from melee elementalist to get the sc from galvanized so losing it from kb too would suck

[old marsh]

using Falcor without dmg arcane on your WF is illegal

[quiet laurel]

one of the reasons why I dont like pathocyst

[old marsh]

But broooo. Them maggots

[fierce lark]

60 elec mod is bc it's already getting 60 from progenitor and extra sc to proc more elec for influence, same reason why galv ele is there

the only two reasons i prefer the falcor

[quiet laurel]

building it is ass cause you are either giving up straight up a big damage increase or you give up comfort

[hexed lodge]

i'll borrow this build if you don't mind... ty

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-now-steal-take-grab-mine-gif-13196166

[fierce lark]

i do wonder if patho is better for cap just bc of the viral influence spread

[quiet laurel]

I mean more elec procs, higher dispo, auto targetting do be pretty big points too

[old marsh]

I am more interested in its usage stats

[quiet laurel]

nah

[fierce lark]

i try to ignore rivens when comparing weapons xd

[old marsh]

It better be on top 20 melees

[fierce lark]

pathocyst is probably not super used

i feel like glaives are unpopular in general

[quiet laurel]

no real reason to use pathocyst when you have falcor unless you really like smth specific about pathocyst

[fierce lark]

it is an aoe viral primer with influence, in theory

[old marsh]

U would be surprised. Top 2 melees last year were glaives

Glaive P with most kills

[quiet laurel]

falcor will be pretty high in usage this year

magistar will probably be highest

praedos will be up there too

[old marsh]

Let’s see. There is a split between Sancti & Magistar. Wish they should combined stats

[lavish orbit]

Praedos being used for movement

[old marsh]

Ye

[quiet laurel]

what even would be the highest used light attack melee

cause I fr dont know what casuals run nowadays

[lavish orbit]

Hate

[hexed lodge]

Dual Ichor prob

[lavish orbit]

I pray that Spinnerex appear to, that thing has a built up acid shells in his passive

[quiet laurel]

That is NOT an acid shells passive 🙏 😭

[wicked vortex]

any suggestions for my coda pathocyst build? the intent here is to just let it fly and not use the explosion so i can spawn as many of the little critters from the passive

[forest magnet]

This is my Gyre Prime build.
I'm looking for a nice weapon to pair with it, any recommendations (preferably with a build too?)

[obtuse remnant]

How can i get a burston to melt lvl 200 enemy without an incarnon form

[karmic badger]

Amprex, Tenet Glaxion, a melee influence weapon?

[karmic badger]

Use the stat boosts from the incarnon adapter, even if you don't transform the weapon it still benefits from the incarnon

[forest magnet]

You perhaps have a build for Amprex?

[karmic badger]

Galv chamber, galv aptitude, elementalist, and then either corrosive blast or viral electric. A standard status proc rifle build, overframe should have the specifics

[uneven portal]

Anyone if you have hildryn prime please share her and her balefire build with little explanation on why it's build like that 🙏

[karmic badger]

Balefire is only worth while when you have Aegis Gale. So you're focusing on maximizing shields on Hildryn with things like Arcane Expertise to boost shield capacity via power strength.

Balefire itself is basically raw damage and fire rate, enervate is a good arcane to force crits without needing to bother with the abysmal crit chance. Fulmination is good because its an aoe weapon

[ripe roost]

can someone tell me if my valkyr build is good? (would have to show in game)

[slender trout]

Hello, I'm new. I'd like to traverse through newest builds . Aswell as warframes, melee ,primary & secondary weapons that 're 'In-Meta'. can Someone instruct me on these matters ?

[karmic badger]

Do you have arbitrations and/or steel path unlocked?

[slender trout]

yea

[sacred root]

Hi , does + ability damage from emerald archon shard affect pillage

[karmic badger]

Pillage is a percentage based on power strength

[karmic badger]

Depends on what you're looking for, the slam builds on things like the Magistar still work. The laetum and Lex incarnon are great, so is the kuva nukor. Primaries like Tenet arca plasmor, Tenet Glaxion, Coda Bassocyst, torid and Burston incarnon.

As for frames, Hildryn is popular rn, classics like Mesa and Saryn are still good, kullervo for melees.

It depends on what's your poison

[sacred root]

So + ability damage won’t work right

[karmic badger]

No

[sacred root]

Ok Ty

[ripe roost]

Hey guys, if im looking to hit level cap damage on my valkyr prime, does nourish work? or do I need something else?

[karmic badger]

Arcane persistence with rage/adrenaline with her claws' innate lifesteal should keep you going

Though nourish would help with energy sustain

[ripe roost]

whats rage/adrenaline?

[karmic badger]

Rage, or hunter adrenaline, if im remembering the name right. Converts health damage to energy

[quiet laurel]

for primaries sobek with the big 3 saryn, oraxia, cyte, burston incarnon, torid incarnon for trash clear
for secondaries ocucor with a hyperbuffer frame like saryn, cyte, mirage, dual toxocyst incarnon, furis incarnon, akarius for AoE spam
for melees, okina incarnon, nami solo incarnon, zaw contaigon, magistar incarnon, falcor, praedos (for movement speed buff)

[ripe roost]

when I put on nourish, should I replace her 1? that seems the least useful

[quiet laurel]

you can dump 1 or 3

depending on build

[karmic badger]

1 is fun for a grouping tool

3 feels like redundant damage boost

[tiny basin]

Question, is volt a melee frame?

[quiet laurel]

for survivability you basically dont need to mod any on her and yeah nourish works though I recommend wrathful advance

[ripe roost]

100%

[quiet laurel]

for general gameplay yes

[karmic badger]

Well Volt also works as a gun platform too

[ripe roost]

I was thinking wrathful yeah

[karmic badger]

Subsumes shouldn't count

[quiet laurel]

helps against DA enemies

[karmic badger]

Tru

[umbral bison]

Hiii!! Anyone have suggestions for Uriel?

[thorny notch]

Is trinity with adaptation and eclipse helminth the highest damage reduction possible, or is there a better setup? because thats already 94% just from eclipse plus blessing (0.25x0.25), and up to 90% more from adaptation.

[karmic badger]

Build range and a strength and maintain neutral or plus duration. Archon vitality.

[quiet laurel]

most of his buffs are for melee tho, especially in current meta where we have influence
and freeing up a mod slot is big

[umbral bison]

Oh okay, i just got him and am trying to build him as best I can

[karmic badger]

Uriel is incredibly forgiving to build tbh, just have enough energy sustain to spam his 2 whenever you're in danger

[umbral bison]

Are you able to hop on? If you can we can play and you can walk me through it

[quiet laurel]

Daily mourning of heat based frames being scuffed af in design

[karmic badger]

Im currently away rn, there's plenty of guides either on Overframe or YouTube that can cover uriel

[trim hill]

3 with the aug is a better grouping tool than 1, imo

But obv it needs a mod slot

[glass bolt]

an idea

[trim hill]

You can also slot arcane double back and shock absorbers for even more damage reduction

And don't forget Link's redirection, either

[karmic badger]

Backstabs to proc electricity then gas?

[glass bolt]

slam

[karmic badger]

Dagger slam? I see the vision

Does it have forced electric proc?

[glass bolt]

dont think so

[frosty fjord]

(according to wiki) normal slam is forced elec and I assume heavy is too even tho it says forced lift but 100% elec dmg

[glass bolt]

huh

[timber ocean]

would arcane hot shot be good with mesas regulators using heat?

[karmic badger]

Yes

[timber ocean]

swert gotta get it now

JESUS

[karmic badger]

Gl, its currently the most expensive arcane

[timber ocean]

WHY IS IT SO EXSPENSIVE

[karmic badger]

2 sources, elite Temporal archimedia or gambling with loid

[timber ocean]

is it hard to farm for?

[karmic badger]

You can get, at best, 3 per week, and that's if you're lucky

[timber ocean]

a maxed one is 640 plat

thats outragous holy

[karmic badger]

Of course if you have the vosfor and the credits, loid is willing to let you gamble on höllvania arcanes

[timber ocean]

do i even need it at that point😭

[karmic badger]

Avenger is an alternative

[timber ocean]

how do u get it?

[timber ocean]

also how do u get vosfor i forgot

[pure reef]

Base Syndicates, 1999 Calender, probably other places

Main way is dissolving arcanes at Loid

[timber ocean]

just spent over 2k vosfer and not a single hot shot

[pure reef]

Sounds like you just gotta run Temporal every week. You can buy a single copy from Kaya for Pix Chips every week too

You got heaps of good options for Peacemakers though so don't get cut

Cascadia Flare is boatloads of base damage.
Enervate is generally decent but can be funky extra good if you're client and have high firerate.
Fortifier is underrated. Status & Knockdown immunity from OG is handy

[pliant valley]

if anyone has a sp equinox build that utilizes both day and night form i will pay for that kind of information

[midnight horizon]

Bc thats how it is hahahah
I spend almost 5k and only got 2 hotshot

[hexed lodge]

I can share my duality+energy transfer build in a few.

[karmic badger]

You can also use orange shards to mimic the effect

[timber ocean]

im to lazy to mix them i wont lie😔

this is what i slapped on her

[karmic badger]

Energy max on blues?

[timber ocean]

shield

since she doesnt have alot of survivability

i decided to increase that a little

[karmic badger]

That hurts shieldgating

[timber ocean]

beisdes i dont really run out of energy

[timber ocean]

i dont shield gate

i have the mpd fpr ot

but i dont use it

[karmic badger]

Nah just passively via shield recharge mods and arcane aegis

Regardless it hurts your default shieldgate because it takes longer to build back up to max

[timber ocean]

eh ive never seen a big difference

but would taking out edap and relacing it with that mod work?

[karmic badger]

Nowadays people just run fortifier and use overguard, in which case shields become redundant

Or arcane circumvent to steal it via rolling

[timber ocean]

how th do i even get those

[karmic badger]

Fortifier is a 1999 arcane, easy to farm

Circumvent is an old peace arcane, Roathe sells it

[timber ocean]

is it for the main frame?

[karmic badger]

Fortifier is for secondaries

Circumvent is warframe

[timber ocean]

wait would that mean i could slap it on my regs

and have constant overguard

[karmic badger]

Ye

[timber ocean]

would it be good to just keep it at rank 1?

since it only buffs dmg to over shield when upgraded

[karmic badger]

Ye, the rank only affects the amount you steal, not the maximum you can have

[timber ocean]

wait steal?

[karmic badger]

Which iirc is 10k

[timber ocean]

it says it just does extra x dmg too overguard

does that include stealing it

oh wait they need to have overguard first

[karmic badger]

You gain overguard based on the amount of damage dealt to it

[timber ocean]

😭

[karmic badger]

So they need overguard first

[timber ocean]

only eximus units have that right

[karmic badger]

Eximus spawns plenty enough at SP

[timber ocean]

well from wehat ive seen

[karmic badger]

Thrax units on the zariman too

[timber ocean]

the price shot up so fast

[karmic badger]

And like, a very specific infested enemy

[timber ocean]

jugger?

[karmic badger]

There's an infested that gives overguard

[timber ocean]

ohhh

[timber ocean]

whats the best planet i can try fortifier on

i dont have that testing range place unlocked sadly

[karmic badger]

If this was 2 days ago, I'd say the operation alerts. Aside from that, uhhh Jade's mission on uranus? Or void cascade on steel path

[timber ocean]

i was gonna run survival sp on merc

but im not sure if they have eximus

[karmic badger]

They do

[timber ocean]

hmm ill try that fr

mesa is quickly becoming my favorite frame

just seeing big numbers show while looking around is fun

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure my mesa is firing to fast for the game to process, cause it should be like 50 shots per second

[timber ocean]

once i get that one mod called furex amalgam or something

[karmic badger]

A higher firerate than the IRL Gau-8 avenger autocannon...

[timber ocean]

its gonna be so much faster

i equipped the wrong mesa build😭

[karmic badger]

Real life miniguns clock in at 6,000 RPM, in games they lower it to 2,000...

[timber ocean]

jesus

also since i got overguard should i swap the blue shield for energy

[karmic badger]

Ye

[timber ocean]

only 75 extra😔

[karmic badger]

Honestly a yellow for starting energy is a nice qol

[timber ocean]

i do not have a yellow

unless its on one of my frames

im ngl i kinda just take on and off my shards when i wanna swap to a diff frame

[timber ocean]

i got 2 tau yellows

but it needs bile

BRUH

how can i get these?

[blazing finch]

What’s a good way to armor strip with protea

[timber ocean]

panzer

[blazing finch]

Which or it doesn’t matter

[timber ocean]

panzer vulpy

[karmic badger]

Doesn't she have an augment for that? Also her turrets apply heat procs anyways

[uneven portal]

Thank you but do you have their build pic?

[karmic badger]

The one on Overframe is a good enough starting point

[blazing finch]

I don’t like that augmented and had couldn’t kill one of those spider things in the mines

[uneven portal]

Ohh I also one more question you see I see people put one more aug mod on her the blazing pillage is it worth it?

[karmic badger]

Depends, its a reliable way to gurantee shields and a must if you're going against infested, but if you're careful you don't need it

[blazing finch]

I’m at son is vicious bond needed

[uneven portal]

One last question how many strength and shield should I atleast have?

[uneven portal]

.

[karmic badger]

How much can you push? Hildryn is really just a matter of how much power strength and shield you can fit while still having quality of life mods like duration and range

[uneven portal]

Ohh I see I have almost all required mod even primed redirection

[timber ocean]

u might i cant remember as i got my panzer a long time ago

[uneven portal]

Just wondering how much should I maintain each

[timber ocean]

depends on ur frame

[timber ocean]

my max over guard was like 11k

wait

[foggy jolt]

is the damage bonus granted by Melee Doughty only for the weapon it's on or a melee damage buff that's applied to the warframe like Melee Exposure

[timber ocean]

if i slap it on my other secondary will the dmg bonus stack?

[karmic badger]

I don't think so

[timber ocean]

aw

[uneven portal]

Ahh I was asking about hildryn prime specifically

[timber ocean]

i think alot of her abilitys scale off of str no?

and im pretty sure she has a pretty good base shield capacity

yea she has like 1k shield

I NEED THE BURSTON PRIME INCARNON

when is it next in rotation

[karmic badger]

Her augment for balefire gives it an alt fire that adds 15% of her shield capacity as damage

And arcane expertise increases shield capacity by power strength

[timber ocean]

oh true

wait how do i check the incarnon rotation

[karmic badger]

Wiki

[timber ocean]

ah alr

[foggy jolt]

if you're building Hildryn don't forget Aviator and Boreal mods for the flat damage reduction in her 4

[timber ocean]

its not in rotation for 5 weeks😭

why must the game do this too me

[dapper glen]

Anyone know a good build for an excalibur umbra
i want to use him with my drifter
my drifter is strong, but i want to have umbra sentience as a backup

[karmic badger]

Could farm plat and buy it from Cavalero, though not sure if his stock rotates or not... I think it follows the circuit

[timber ocean]

i think it does follow circuit

[timber ocean]

hes at zariman right

[karmic badger]

Just a typical excal build? DE fixed most bugs involving Umbra's sentient mode, he still benefits from subsumes and doesn't immediately lose all temp buffs so he should be fine with a standard setup

[karmic badger]

Ye

[karmic badger]

Heck i think umbra doesn't lose combo counter too now

[dapper glen]

ok

[timber ocean]

😭

[foggy jolt]

if you play Mesa and didn't already have it, i hope you picked up Arcane Velocity from the event.

[timber ocean]

ill see the incarnons in 5 weeks

[timber ocean]

i did not pick that up

i lowkey need it

[foggy jolt]

rip 120% fire rate

[timber ocean]

real

how much does it go on market

[foggy jolt]

saying 3p each atm

[timber ocean]

😭

[foggy jolt]

time to grind Tridolon

[karmic badger]

Braton is a sidegrade to the burston incarnon

Also paris has stupid levels of status chance

[timber ocean]

i just dont got the braton sooo

[foggy jolt]

it's also a REALLY good time to buy some Arcane Barrier and Energize tho since the event tanked their price

[timber ocean]

i got a maxed energise thankfully

[karmic badger]

Albrecht Bogdanoff strikes again

[fathom sky]

It's pretty much free go get Braton Prime

[foggy jolt]

Braton is like 5p iirc

[fathom sky]

Sidegrade is really overstating how good Burston is over it.

[timber ocean]

whats the mas rank for it?

cus im 12 rn

[fathom sky]

Definitely less than that

[foggy jolt]

8

[timber ocean]

so is the burston or braton better

[karmic badger]

Honestly in the meantime you can hold yourself over grinding zariman incarnons

[foggy jolt]

Also pick up a Lex if you haven't already. Still a favourite of mine

[karmic badger]

Phenmor and laetum are hard carries

[timber ocean]

only a few more ig

[fathom sky]

Burston by miles. Braton's MUCH lower fire rate isn't made up by its higher base damage.

[karmic badger]

And preados is a good utility

[timber ocean]

im running cedo prime rn

ive been loving it since i got it

my str😭

must be sacrificed for faster shooting

[foggy jolt]

What Arcane did that?

[timber ocean]

i had bellicose on before

so i had a 23% str buff

[foggy jolt]

ah

[timber ocean]

but i put a arcane velocity on

[foggy jolt]

forgot about that one

[timber ocean]

i still get 389 str anyway

where do i farm arcane velocity?

[foggy jolt]

Tridolon is the main one

[karmic badger]

Genuinely? Its more sane to farm plat via relic cracking then buying it rather than actually farming tridolons

Hell, just farming 1999 arcanes to melt for vosfor is a genuinely less mind numbing route

[timber ocean]

is hydrolyst the thing that spawns around randomly

[foggy jolt]

Hydrolyst is the one you have to go into a mission for iirc. Been so long since i ran Tri

[dapper glen]

and since i'm not really using it : i can take out the exalted sword for a better subsume skill ?

[foggy jolt]

i will need to go back soon tho...i have finally started branching my Tenno out into the other schools and i have none of the shards for the max ranks

[spiral chasm]

Dont need to go into mission. Just dont kill them and capture all 3

[karmic badger]

Umbra can use exalted blade while sentient... That's like, a big damage boost for him

[timber ocean]

it has a higher drop chance when u kill though

[karmic badger]

Especially now that you can shove melee influence into it with chromatic blade

[timber ocean]

got a maxed velocity

[dapper glen]

i think my verdilac still better, i know he dont launch the projectile, but my verdilac have good range et damage

[foggy jolt]

i half remember someone saying something about "Synthetic Eidolon shards"...is that actually a thing and can i use them for the focus school nodes?

don't make me go back to the hunts!!!

[dapper glen]

its there only use, to gain 5000 focus point

[karmic badger]

They're rare drops from ESOs, they're just there to trade for focus

[timber ocean]

how we looking yall

should i keep mesa walts or swap it for power drift?

[foggy jolt]

Can Mesa even trigger those Archon mods?

[timber ocean]

yea

[hard ibex]

ye with regulators

[timber ocean]

her reg

[foggy jolt]

huh.

[karmic badger]

Depends on what you put on her regulators

[hard ibex]

depends how much u use mesa's waltz

[timber ocean]

u put the status affects needed for those mods onto the regs and since its a ability it counts

[karmic badger]

Archon continuity is fun alternative

[hard ibex]

i tend to just launch into the air and use regulators till i hit the ground so mesa's walts has no use for me

[timber ocean]

i mean i stay in it a fair bit

[karmic badger]

And 10% status chance doesn't matter if you're firing 30 rounds a second

[hard ibex]

then stick with the waltz, it'll be way more noticeable to lose that mobility than the +15% strength will ever do

although how does one proc both archon vitality and archon continuity on one regulators build

[karmic badger]

You can't

[timber ocean]

i some how have toxic and heat seperate

[hard ibex]

how so

can i see ur mods ?

[timber ocean]

idek it doesnt say on the actual modding but when im playing i see archon cont buff show up

[karmic badger]

External source of heat? Or toxin

Technically companions can also proc archon mods...

[hard ibex]

but that would mean archon continuity is doing some good

[foggy jolt]

Is it possible to combine normal Eidolon Shards into Brilliants?

[timber ocean]

my comp build

[karmic badger]

A hound or diriga with archon stretch is a classic

[hard ibex]

any thoughts for upgrades on my extremely dated saryn build

this was a brozime classic from like 2 or 3 years ago

[karmic badger]

Blast would be more effective due to verglas' fire rate

[karmic badger]

Isn't weapons platform saryn still the meta?

[timber ocean]

i dont have any mods for it sadly

[karmic badger]

Just with new ways of survival with circumvent

[languid oxide]

@latent adder reading your diriga+BLP build for proccing archon stretch to upkeep energy economy on 4F sevagoth. I don't understand how coolant leak procs archon stretch tho? is it a side effect of manifold bond etc?

[karmic badger]

Pretty much

[hard ibex]

eh no way am i doing circumvent shenanignas

i guess ill stick with what ive got

i just find her to be a bit underwhelming compared to some of the newer frames

[karmic badger]

Actually, wait, no archon continuity?

You have toxin procs galore?

[hard ibex]

ye but wouldn't venom dose sort of cover that?

could maybe swap narrow minded for archon continuity

[dapper glen]

my apologies, i tried a viral/heat exalted blade condition overload combo
i was wrong

[karmic badger]

Exalted blade definitely justifies its energy consumption now lmao

[dapper glen]

arcane persistance (so no shield) + energy on healt damage + gloom
i think i have something powerful

[timber ocean]

does mesa passive only work when i dont have a melee weapon equiped at all?

[chrome badge]

you don't

[karmic badger]

You have to have no melee equipped

Its also abysmally garbage anyways so you can ignore it

[timber ocean]

i mean thats not bad i wont be using it anyway

[round merlin]

The health part yes, but the rest works fine with one equipped

[karmic badger]

Melee statstick doesn't hurt, furax with its amalgam mod and melee careen is very good

[timber ocean]

i need to get the amalgam mod

[hard ibex]

does arcane hot shot work for melee weapons

[timber ocean]

i think it should

as long as ur wep has heat on it

[hard ibex]

wait why would my weapon need heat

[timber ocean]

its ability using heat

so it actually wont

[hard ibex]

i see

[timber ocean]

ur ability needs to have innate heat on them unless its a exalted like mesa

so frames like ember and temple

[latent adder]

yeah

manifold bond makes coolant leak proc electric

which triggers archon stretch

[languid oxide]

understood

also can sevagoth's mini shadows be affected by summoner's wrath aura?

[latent adder]

nope

[languid oxide]

roger.

trying an alternative non shield gate variant.'

[timber ocean]

why shield gate when u can just overguard

[languid oxide]

with sevagoth? how?

[karmic badger]

Circumvent

[languid oxide]

i think growing power should synergize well with diriga and BLP

[karmic badger]

Or a secondary with fortifier

[timber ocean]

or secondary fortifier

depending if u have a secondary built for it

[karmic badger]

A kuva nukor is all you really need

[languid oxide]

the point of the build is to ability spam with sevagoth whilst diriga primes enemies and generates orbs for energy.

[karmic badger]

Or just an epitaph if you want to fit the set

[timber ocean]

then u lowkey doint even need to overguard or shield gate

do it properly and everything is dead before u get hit

[karmic badger]

And gloom will provide cc and healing

[languid oxide]

alright.

one sec gonna post build pic

[timber ocean]

this headpeace is sick on mesa fr

[languid oxide]

im also trying to think is energy siphon+coaction drift would be good for energy upkeep but thats literall just like 1-1.1 energy/sec.

[timber ocean]

ur already getting insane amounts of energy just from the frame itself

[karmic badger]

And wouldn't work with channelled abilities

[karmic badger]

Would brightbonnet be worth in exchange for roar? Just rely on spamming the 1-2-1 cycle a few times?

[languid oxide]

thoughts?

[karmic badger]

Are you focusing on the 1-2-1 nuke or shadow?

Cause if you're nuking, then subsuming shadow off for some other ability will help

[languid oxide]

2-1 for groups, 1-2-1 for singular.

oh and also roar is supposed to be on 4, its jsut the second config.

[karmic badger]

Honestly molt augmented might be overkill

You're already above the threshold for 1 shot with your baseline strength

Could swap out augmented for a utility arcane

[languid oxide]

in utility arcane i only got steadfast and aegis

and since im not sheild gating steadfast should do i suppose.

[karmic badger]

Def should get circumvent

[hexed lodge]

Yeah you have too much strength, either remove molt aug or transient fortitude and use a focus school to snapshot Gloom for 272% strength for max slow.
If you intend to health tank with sev, use flat armor bonuses preferably health conversion + adaptation.
And don't use archon stretch + Gloom, it will stop you from gaining energy through the mod

I think Energize might overkill on energy economy too...

[languid oxide]

could you explain more on the first statement?

as for the third point, no seismic bond then. i wonder why that negatory interaction happens.

[hexed lodge]

So Gloom's slow is dictated on the initial cast of the ability, and you need 272% to reach it's 95% max slow.
Say, you have 255% strength, then use Madurai (or Zenurik) to temporarily boost that 255% to 275% and get the best slow

seismic bond still works, it gives you efficiency, doesn't regen energy

[languid oxide]

right so then what did you mean by gloom not working with the mod?

[languid oxide]

got it

[hexed lodge]

What I meant was that Gloom cancels out the energy regeneration from Archon Stretch's second effect.

And other energy regen effects but the list is a bit vast, you can find in the wiki

[languid oxide]

really? damn.

[timber ocean]

whats this

[hexed lodge]

yea most unfortunate also, are you intending to go lvlcap? if not, go for health-tanking in the shadow, is more comfy
shield-gating shadow builds are outdated builds before update 40.0.3, they are only good for lvlcap now

[karmic badger]

The only things that can restore energy while channelled abilities are running are orbs and brightbonnet

[karmic badger]

Keychain for melees

[timber ocean]

bruh

are these any good

[karmic badger]

Mesa has a signature melee weapon too

[languid oxide]

its uh a shadowLESS build.

[timber ocean]

is it good?

[karmic badger]

The melee? Its like one of 3 gunblades, and is pretty good for specific shenanigananery

[timber ocean]

lowkey this can be so much better

[hexed lodge]

i know but even for passive...

[languid oxide]

oh i see

sorry still new to all this. gotta ram my head at it a couple of times

[hexed lodge]

no worries lol

[hard ibex]

what survivability resources does baruuk have? ive managed to get to ~200kpm on him but i still get close to death if im not careful

i find gating quite tough on him as lull has the long cooldown, should i gate using his 3rd?

[karmic badger]

I sound like a broken record, but you can just steal overguard with circumvent and/or fortifier

[hard ibex]

ill try circumvent maybe

although i think baruuk kills things before he gets a chance to roll through them

my main issue is projectiles from faraway enemies

[karmic badger]

Use more movement, enemies get a debuff to accuracy while you're doing parkour

Slides, rolls, aimglide, etc

[hard ibex]

true i usually get a bit mindless holding the melee button on him

[karmic badger]

Does Baruuk have enough armor to use persistence? And if so does he have a reliable form of healing?

[hard ibex]

i always found mirage super tanky as id be jumpibg all over with her

[hard ibex]

how much is this? 450

[karmic badger]

Fairly sure its like 700

Yeah its 700 armor for it to activate

[hard ibex]

i mean he hasnt got a healing source but maybe gloom could be a shout

but that might kind of ruin other parts of his kit

i subsumed wrathful advance over his 1 as i hate the no attacking thing but im happy to try other subsumes out

[coral plank]

Im going manik

[hard ibex]

why streamline

[coral plank]

Spend too much energy for my taste

[hard ibex]

i see

wouldnt more strength be better thanks to the orbs dropped by his minion

[coral plank]

Not spending energy thats above triple digits

[coral plank]

Maug and Arcami

Think that would go up to 300?

[hard ibex]

whut 🙏

[coral plank]

Molt Augmented, Arcane Camisado

[hard ibex]

ah i see sorry

[coral plank]

Im thinking of shortening them

[karmic badger]

I mean you can snapshot str with madurai

[coral plank]

I dont go Operator too much unless its the specific ones for them, but im using Zenurik cuz its currently my only tauron lol

[maiden cargo]

ermm would heavy charge up speed affect the charge up for toss for glaives?

[undone dust]

yes

[tepid turtle]

does anyone have a good jade glory build? I feel like no matter what i do it just isnt enough damage for the most basic steel path enemies

[jovial lion]

would this still work with aflictions or its too high on crit for it to actually make a difference

[timber ocean]

I GOT FURAX AMALGAM LETS GOOO

[neon portal]

Whats a good build for uriel?

[mighty flare]

if you just want to weapon platform, you can disregard high range

[uneven field]

is this good?

[crimson osprey]

i have a kuva bramma question- hunter munitions+internal bleeding increase slash procs or anytihng? id be switching out hammer shot for internal bleeding fyi

And any interesting slash based melee that arent nikanas? i use them for a few frames, and want to use something else? this is for an ash loadout

[fathom sky]

Pretty much any blade, really. Prisma Skana Inc, Nami Solo Inc, whatever Revenant's Heavy Nikana was called.

Main issue is that they'd all just go Melee Influence and Electric anyway

[languid oxide]

on sevagoth?

[hexed lodge]

Doesn't work on him

[uneven field]

im gonna assume my build is okay

since i've receieved no feedback

[runic fox]

running azure shards and arcane bellicose as i have no crimson currently. should i stick with this or spend the time grinding for crimson shards?

[runic fox]

looks pretty good. i would like to give more feedback but i usually build for either crit or status and im not super familiar with the weapon.

[empty owl]

what arcanes should i use on volt for eidolon hunt

[fierce lark]

some of these signatures have absolutely 0 thought behind them and it hurts

mesa has a signature melee weapon when she also has a passive that incentivizes not taking a melee weapon

oraxia has a signature melee weapon when she literally can't melee while you're playing into her entire gimmick

like why

[mighty flare]

arcane nullifier, arcane energize, any weapon platform arcane

[umbral bison]

Is it worth it to polarize a warframe?

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

[fierce lark]

if you’re going to actually play the frame and are not just using it for mastery rank, yes

[acoustic bluff]

Polarising frame is #1 priority if building it properly

[umbral bison]

Okay so dumb it down for me im new and I just polarized my Uriel, what did it do?

[fierce lark]

you have to use reactors and forma to open up mod capacity so you can actually mod it

but don’t polarize until you actually have the means to use the extra mod space

when you polarize, you add a mod polarity (cuts the cost of matching mods in half) to that slot, and it resets to level 0

[acoustic bluff]

Reset the warframes level and added a polarisation to the mod slot.

So now you need to level it again

[umbral bison]

I got him to level 26 again

[fierce lark]

but yeah, don’t do it randomly

[umbral bison]

I am almost to 30

[fierce lark]

when you’re building frames or weapons, figure out what mods you want to put on it. either from what you have, or you can use something like overframe’s builder to make a sample build with any mods you want and work towards it in-game, or you can copy/take inspiration from other people’s builds

when you don’t have enough capacity to complete the build you’re working towards, that’s when you use forma to add polarities

[umbral bison]

Okay, so since I am new the best mod I have is the vitality and it is at level 7 right now, how would I get better mods?

[fierce lark]

first you’d have to know what mods you’re looking for. that’s where looking up builds or using a sample builder comes in.

when you know what you want, look up the mod, figure out where it drops/can be bought from.

a lot of good frame mods come from corrupted vaults, which are locked rooms on Deimos missions that you can get into with any of the four dragon keys (best to look up a guide for that one)

a lot of said mods and many other frame mods also go up to rank 10, which gets very expensive on endo. so it’s good to find a way to farm that

[umbral bison]

Okay, would you mind adding me and we can play sometime and you can help me?

[fierce lark]

i don’t really have the time to spare for that these days, apologies

[umbral bison]

It's okay

I will start looking online and on YouTube and what not, thank you

[midnight horizon]

Viral + Heat Latron
Corrosive Dual Tox
Blast Elec Nepheri

[uneven field]

is this good for umbra?

[fierce lark]

needs warrior’s rest, otherwise pretty good

maybe drop transient for furious javelin

[uneven field]

i currently don't have those 2 mods lol

[fierce lark]

arcane strike over arcane fury if you have it, easier to get base damage than attack speed

[uneven field]

working on maxing steel meridian first

also currently don't know if i have arcane strike maxed

like i have hexis maxed just not enough standing

[fierce lark]

they should both be the same syndicate you bought chromatic blade

[uneven field]

wdym same syndicate?

i have steel meridian active and it doesn't give me anything for hexis

only for steel, when i have hexis active it gives me for suda AND hexis though

[fierce lark]

arbiters of hexis sells all 3 of the excal mods

[uneven field]

i know

i meant i have no standing left for the day

putting it all into meridian

but yeah def getting javelin

idk what warriors rest does tbh

[proud drift]

Welp I am going to send this here as I don't know if this is the best build for NATARUK bow

[fierce lark]

gives some strength, and stops the warframe from fighting and subsequently getting killed while you’re in operator

it’s pretty important iirc

[uneven field]

okay weird bug

my dual coda thorxica says it's max rank like i can forma it

but i can't lens it

so idk what's wrong with it

[fierce lark]

you can’t lens adversary weapons until they’re rank 40

kuva/tenet/coda weapons gain 2 max ranks every time you forma them, up to rank 40

[uneven field]

crud

i need more forma lol

[proud drift]

I don't exactly know if this is a good build at all.

[potent wave]

Which arcane here would be the best for Uriel

[fierce lark]

acuity turns off multishot, so split chamber does nothing. remove one of the two.

firestorm also does nothing, nataruk is not an aoe weapon with a radius (and base firestorm sucks anyway)

[proud drift]

Ah i see so what do I need to change for the bow?

[fierce lark]

you need vital sense more than anything

[proud drift]

I don't have vital sense nor do I know where to farm that

So yeah

[fierce lark]

you can buy it from players, or it drops from a lot of different corpus units in orb vallis/undermine/probably some other places

and a lot of different endurance farms

but its one of those mods that every single player should own

[rocky aurora]

Main thing is does is prevent umbra from canceling your 4. Since umbra can use all your skills when in operator, if you have like 12x combo stacked up Umbra can just cancel it

[proud drift]

I can't exactly buy it from players cause I don't have platinum to pay them with

[rocky aurora]

The one reason why many players choose base excal over umbra

You don't have to use warrior's rest

[fierce lark]

the only reason not to use it would be if you wanted to run primed sure footed

[rocky aurora]

Youre spamming 1 so often it's not even needed unironically

(Imo)

[fierce lark]

gives the same strength as power drift, he doesn’t really need the range from cunning, sprint speed parkour speed enemy radar etc are all personal preference

[rocky aurora]

Unless the enemy density is straight ahh then youre just kinds screwed

[proud drift]

For the vital sense that is

[rocky aurora]

Not exactly difficult to get vital sense?

[fierce lark]

pain in the ass still, do 10 minutes of survival, leave and reset for an 8% drop

[rocky aurora]

Defense

[fierce lark]

slightly less painful

[rocky aurora]

And even do it solo with speedva

Never even had to farm for it really, just got it naturally through playing the game

[proud drift]

I don't exactly have mods to rise the drop chance for those mods at all

[rocky aurora]

There's no mods that do that

[proud drift]

I see well I'll be doing it for a long time then as my luck sucks big time just to get vital sense

[finite bluff]

Is melee careen better than melee influence on the okina?

[proud drift]

And as I said I can't buy vital sense from players as I don't have platinum at all

[lofty epoch]

Im kinda mid-game? Caliban is my go to rn and I'd like to buff him further.

This is my current build and usually gets me 2,000 smth overguard? Or shield whichever it is.

I'd like to up both his health and shield and possibly his summons damage?

It also has arcane rage and energize

[fierce lark]

if you actually intend on using your melee weapon, no. it’s alright for statsticks to give rolls utility, but it’s a terrible gimmick to actually play around

[finite bluff]

Ok thx

[uneven portal]

You need vital sense mod?

I have it can give it to you for free but I am busy right now
I will ping you later so if you are available and online ,then I can give it to you

[abstract bison]

okay so acuity latron prime yay or nay

[proud drift]

Sure I'm always online rn I'm watching YouTube

[mighty flare]

nay

[midnight horizon]

Neh

[jovial lion]

i think this is the first and only time i would spend a forma in adding an augment polarity

atlas already uses augments all the time so its a safe spot

idk if its good to have literally just 2 slots without polarities tho

at least ik all builds use 2 or 3 umbra mods anyway so not a big deal having 2 of those polarities

[long phoenix]

anyone know like a really good Combat Oriented Limbo Build? I use him for Spy/Rescue Missions already but I still have trouble how to run Steel Path combat missions with him (and I'm certainly not going into public lobbies with him, I don't wanna get yelled at for playing Limbo lol)

Currently running 2 Yellow TF shards for Cast speed, and 3 purple (1 is currently Tauforged) for the Equilibrium effects

[glossy cloak]

not sure if I'm onto something but limbo is only good with duration and range for his abilities right?

[long phoenix]

if you're running Rift Torrent, you also want Strength because it scales

(base is 30%, this is with 163 strength for example)

I'm thinking it might be a good idea to get R5 Arcane Circumvent for Limbo in Particular since you're dodging to get in and out of rift so I might as well start stealing enemy defenses while I'm at it

[maiden cargo]

depends overall on your build / helmith

power would go more str focus if they have like roar in their helmith
while other will go more range if they have like pull

[long phoenix]

in my case, I'm using either Null Star or Breach Surge (I have a build for each)

[glossy cloak]

I would have to get the rift torrent augment then, never really played him enough to need any augments tbh

[long phoenix]

Rift Torrent is what lets him do mad damage if you play him right

iirc the Rift Torrent buff is the same kind as Roar/Faction mods iirc

[glossy cloak]

where get rift torrent?

[long phoenix]

Suda/Arbiters

[glossy cloak]

SHIT

just gonna put this here so you can understand my perdicament

[long phoenix]

ahh lol

[glossy cloak]

is it possible to rank 5 all factions anyway?

[long phoenix]

currently me with Perrin/Loka/Red Veil (I can at least fix my Red Veil Standing once I go back to grinding Steel Meridian)

not at the same time, no as I understand it

you can get up to 4 technically?

[glossy cloak]

iirc it was 4, but I don't remember how to do that so ye

[long phoenix]

I'm ranking up with Arbiters and Suda and once I get all of theirs, I'm gonna finish grinding out all of Steel Meridian which will also get Red Veil up passively

[karmic badger]

You can juggle 4, mine is red veil (steel meridian) and new loka (perrin sequence)

[glossy cloak]

so I guess now the question is which 4 do I juggle at this point, because I also wanna finish up rathbone for archwing stuff

anyway I will deal with that later, need sleep. will work on limbo tomorrow. take care peeps

[ivory dock]

I think you can buy from arbiters regardless of rank?

[long phoenix]

nope, that's just relating to Arbitration honors

[ivory dock]

I get my galvanized mods from them

[ivory dock]

Ooohhh alr

[long phoenix]

same thing for the fact you can get certain Tenet/Sister weapons from Perrin Sequence regardless of your standing with them

[ivory dock]

They want that bank

[karmic badger]

We're basically trading old hard drives for them to crack in exchange for weapons

[smoky widget]

how do i even build helios

[wet cobalt]

Aside from codex scans helios isn't really useful if you take a look at their mods. I personally go for certain bond mods, survivability (if you hate companion regen timer), synth deconstruct (with equilibrium or just passive reload on holstered weapons)

[smoky widget]

man no one likes helios :c

[wet cobalt]

I mean it's not like Simaris mod helps it when it only marks SINGLE ENEMY for 10 second

Random one in 30 meters

[smoky widget]

but hes a chill guy

[wet cobalt]

True, that's why I only use investigator mod for him if I felt like filling codex. Or just use extra bond mod if you remove all Helios-exclusive precepts

[long phoenix]

How's this for a Limbo Combat build using Breach Surge on 1

[smoky widget]

would this work

wait, slight edit

coolant leak over seisemic bond, or fire up?

[wet cobalt]

If you are going melee weapon (Deconstructor were a glaive if i recall?) for Vicioys Bond, I don't know how good Seismic Bond is with it's damage scaling:

Shockwave deals Impact Damage and has a 0% Status Chance.
Damage scales with increases to melee damage (e.g. Precision Conditioning), but is unaffected by damage conversion and elemental damage bonuses.
Shockwave does not hit enemies protected with Overguard.
Status Chance can be added to with Mecha Overdrive to create Impact procs.
Shockwave can applies Status Effects via Manifold Bond.
Shockwave does not trigger Vicious Bond.

[wet cobalt]

Honestly if you have like Verglas or Helstrum for status spread I'd go with Duplex Bond and Contagious bond for swapping Vicious and Seismic Bonds

[smoky widget]

ill go buy verglas prime i guess

[wet cobalt]

I mean that's my opinion, it's just I don't have experience with those two mods

[smoky widget]

what if i just kept the glaive

and try for just armor stripping

[wet cobalt]

Could work but the glaive itself were kind of slow? I see most of the time that Whirlwind is used for increasing it's speed

Again you can also use it as primer

[smoky widget]

which as a primer, the deconstructor?

[wet cobalt]

Deconstructor, it's the only melee Sentinel weapon you can use

[regal mountain]

Can someone please with good knowledge of either hydroid, cedo, or nautilus please help me work on my builds? Im trying to go deeper in SP beyond earth and some of the mission types are kicking my butt. Like interception...these are my two hydroid builds im swapping between. Guardian is getting replaced by molt augmented soon.

[wet cobalt]

Could work but again, as status spread. DMG of sentinel weapons aren't good enough but they'd cover you with status spreading across enemies in one zone

[wet cobalt]

I have experience in Cedo & Nautilius. perhaps I can look for them

[smoky widget]

so it wont kill but it will give them status

[wet cobalt]

Yea that's usually how it's done when it comes to Sentilnel Weapons, or so how I do it

[regal mountain]

Cedo prime build, waiting for primed ravage, chilling grasp, and charged shell from baro to finish it

[jaunty briar]

Yo, I really want to make ember work atleast for steel path. What builds do you recommend? Preferably one where i don't subsume since i like to play the frames as a whole

[crisp pine]

how many seconds with persistence do I need for kullervo as I really do not think I need vitality:

[wet cobalt]

Well Blight won't work, toxin status must come from the primary, unless you have Saryn's Toxic Last effect

[regal mountain]

I have an r5 merciless i can swap in

[wet cobalt]

That would do but because how short the stack duration is you have to kill them fast. I usually use deadhead for easy ramp up

[crisp pine]

overcharge is a meme pick

who does not like way too much multishot

[wet cobalt]

Depends on frames that ain't hungry andd has lot of energy capacity. And definitely don't work on Lavos lol

[regal mountain]

I main hydroid prime i also have apparently never gotten an overcharge arcane before

[crisp pine]

armour frames can build up to 1000 energy stares at my harrow with 997 energy

[regal mountain]

Nautilus prime+verglas prime builds i use

[wet cobalt]

Battery could work on armored frames, might as well cook it for funnies on certain frames with high armor in my arsenal lol. Tho I never grinded those two.

[regal mountain]

Is the mod load out ok tho?

[crisp pine]

I did it on a frame with WEAK armour (harrow)

[wet cobalt]

You definitely put Archon Shards cause like ain't no way you'd reach 1200+ armor with Steel Fiber where the base Harrow Prime's armor is 185. There is health conversion but like it's short lived and depends on orbs

[wet cobalt]

As for this one, hoensty I see no issue as it's nearly similiar of verglas builds I see

[regal mountain]

I just have to finish ranking those two builds to r10 but im broke lately all these galvanized mods

But other then the arcane is my cedo build good for high level stuff once I get the primed versions

[wet cobalt]

Yea it's just primary blight that won't work because how mechanicaly it works

It doesn't state in game so I can't blame

[regal mountain]

I think it was suggested cuz of my...whats it called...tempest barrage on hydroid

[wet cobalt]

Primary Frostbite shares the same status condition aside different element but it doesn't have to come from weapon unlike Blight

[wet cobalt]

Either they are tripping or forgot cause there is no way this thing grants toxin

[regal mountain]

Ok ty at least I can know my stuff is fine even if im still worried about my frame

Oh that's why they said get green shards....something bout increase corrosion stacks, idk how that works but shards are my next step

[crisp pine]

5 tau forged blue shards

[wet cobalt]

Emerald Archon Shards, those shards have effect on both Toxin & Corrosive ddepends on the option you click. As for corrosive it has an option to increase the stack cap +2 (+3 if you have Tauforged ver)

[regal mountain]

Otay but how get themmm idk how get the other 3 colors lol

[wet cobalt]

Coalescent fusion, Ascent fusion and Temporal Archimedea. I you reached Cavia Rank 2 you'd get helminth segment from the shop

You can combine two of base archon shards (Yellow, Red, Blue) into those new archon shards (Oorange, Green, Violet)

Ascent Fusion uses 3 of base shards and turns them into Tauforged version, same applies for those new variants

Both uses Stela, a resource you can get from Murmur in Labs

[regal mountain]

Tysm u have given me alot of help and things to work on

[timber ocean]

🤑

🤑 🤑

[fickle mauve]

Rate my Ember build.

||This is a joke||

[cloud snow]

hello! im new to the game and unlocked my first riven just now. is it okay? or not worth the mod points to use.

[prime lava]

@rose cradle everything is irrelevant except range and duration
get a shade prime or huras kubrow tho, for crepescular, scales well with the shroomballs

[summer trout]

anyone got a good gauss weapons platform build?

[hallow yew]

Hi y'all. I'm trying to build a no-Omni-Forma Vinquibus (because I don't like to spend Omni Forma on non-primes). Just wanted to ask if these builds are viable enough, most importantly the melee version. I was thinking of adding slam damage on Vinquibus melee but I'm not sure if the 2nd part of its heavy attack counts as a slam attack. Thanks in advance.

[rose cradle]

Thanks for the build

[prime lava]

good luck on the aya grind

[rose cradle]

I started to get irrationally angry because somehow I died without warning 3 times

[prime lava]

as someone who has dont over 600 deimos bounties, its 100% either the drones or that giant worm

[rose cradle]

It was the goddamn worms

I f- hate them so damn much

[prime lava]

two nokko shroomballs and boom, dead

[rose cradle]

I'm using wisp and her fused motes

That was surprisingly easy

[summer trout]

anything i should change from this?

[rose cradle]

Are you getting new bounties from within the open world or just going back and forth from the necralisk

[prime lava]

going back to the necralisk takes away too much time in the long run
just get one from mother after youre done completing

[rose cradle]

Ah, its just that I see the bounties available within the deimos area seem to be lower tiers only

[summer trout]

should i use umbra forma or not?

[prime lava]

its whatever bounty you started with, the same level/ tier bounties for the ones available in the area
so if u started out with a tier 5 bounty, the bounties in the open world area will also be tier 5

[rose cradle]

Ah ok, thanks

[prime lava]

what frame even is that

[summer trout]

https://tenor.com/view/gauss-prime-gauss-warframe-gauss-meme-warframe-meme-gif-13078930774228297629

[prime lava]

that works too
as long as you dont have to worry about anything like your hp or your ammo or your energy

[prime lava]

what kinda build are you going for? nuke or duration

[summer trout]

weapons platform

so duration ig? but having thermal sunder would be nice

[prime lava]

then just go full duration
you can keep flow and equilibrium ig
let go of range

[summer trout]

but me also want thermal sunder

[prime lava]

keep it then lol its upto you
but if youre going for weapon platform gauss, u gotta fully go into duration and strength for redline

[summer trout]

but would it hurt my weapons platform build?

[summer trout]

im well aware

[prime lava]

i use this build
is this the best? nah
is this the most optimal? idk
but does it have like 2 minutes of redline and kinetic plating? yessur

[prime lava]

if youre gonna invest in range, yes
you also have one more option
gauss's thermal sunder's augment that transfers heat or cold damage to your weapon, you could integrate that into your build

[summer trout]

can it boom?

DONE

do i need helminth?

[prime lava]

no, if youre keeping thermal sunder you wont need helminth

[summer trout]

i mean

if i get it on a weapons platform

[prime lava]

since gauss 100% requires his 1, 2 and 4 for weapon platform

[summer trout]

more damage

[versed harbor]

just make sure ur at 100% strength (any higher isnt rly useful other than helminths but even 100% roar is fine)

then the rest into range, duration, and qol

[summer trout]

ima transfer the sunder to the weapons maybe and replace for sum else

[versed harbor]

ignore narrow minded if ur building range cuz it hurts

[prime lava]

half investing into range and duration?

[summer trout]

wouldnt that make the build

[versed harbor]

you have enough for all range and duration mods if u rly want but eh

[summer trout]

just mid?

[versed harbor]

o and slot archon vitality if ur sundering (rank 0 is fine)

[prime lava]

well you could just go all in with duration

[summer trout]

well

ima just use a weapons platform cus i need that shield to be used to the max

[prime lava]

youre making no sense 😭

[summer trout]

wait holy crap i meant im using weapons platform so i need to max duration so screw the sunder (im looking at 2 chats at once) 😭😭😭

[prime lava]

ohoh
you can use my build then
replace augur secrets with whatever you want since u dont really need strength much, idk why i put it there tbh

[summer trout]

good cause i dont have one

[fierce lark]

seems weird to subsume away one of the weapon buffs on a weapon platform

[solar sequoia]

new mod while doing deimos bounties, how good is this set?

[fierce lark]

it's not

[solar sequoia]

Didn't even know about this set lol