builds-discussion

[hexed lodge]

Let me do a test rq

[granite raptor]

Does anybody know about any high status puncture melee weapons? Want to iron out my SP disruption build

[hexed lodge]

Works on my side @languid oxide couple of checks you can do...

• was your roar buff up and/or were they afflicted with Sow, your 2nd ability?

[languid oxide]

on it

[granite raptor]

also does anybody know if deimos disruption necramechs use the same dr formula as other necramechs, or other demolishers?

[fathom sky]

They changed it so all enemies with innate DR use the same DR when Undermine droped

[novel bear]

And demolishers don’t have it anymore

[hexed lodge]

I don't think they have any attuenation if that's what you're referring to, just regular armor dr

[midnight horizon]

How much this might go for?

[fathom sky]

Not more than like 40. Only one good stat on it

[spiral chasm]

check all prices on warframe.market

just so u dont get bad deals

[midnight horizon]

Which is?

[fathom sky]

The CC

[midnight horizon]

Fym only one good stat

So what's with slash and reload

[spiral chasm]

+resload speed is bad lol

requires more time to reload

[fathom sky]

Those are bad stats. Something like Crit Damage, Crit Chance, Multishot would be good.

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[lethal vine]

is this roll any good?

[fathom sky]

Could be slotted over Primed Fury, but doesn't provide a lot.

Attack Speed, Range, Crit Damage is common for melee

[lethal vine]

alr

can it be sold?

[fathom sky]

Doubt it'll ever sell since it's an unremarkable weapon

[fierce lark]

pretty bad roll for a mid weapon, won't sell for more than trash price and will probably take awhile even at that

[lethal vine]

alr

apparently i can transmute it

where do i get a transmuter?

[swift pecan]

guys pick 1

[hexed lodge]

@lethal vine hol up, ik this isn't trade but how much for that one?

[lethal vine]

the riven?

[hexed lodge]

yea

[lethal vine]

im tryna find out too

[hexed lodge]

aight, hit me if you wanna trade it

[lethal vine]

alr

[languid oxide]

tad bit curious. so for 2 on sevagoth i recast it for every group of enemies right?

not just cast it once and then keep 1ing?

[mighty flare]

Sickening pulse is pretty poor pick. Use roar for a weapon platform if you don’t want use nourish and breach surge for a caster setup

[fathom sky]

Right and it's not even close

[fierce lark]

man i would almost take left

not sure how good the extra slash weighting would be in theory, but it has a shitton of status chance

but -rls sucks

[spiral pulsar]

i dont know why but this build doesnt work😭😭help?

[scenic echo]

Left because strun doesn’t care for crit

[scenic echo]

I disagree
The crit chance on strun is baaad

[hexed lodge]

It's... complicated, i kinda watered it down but yea, you recast 2 to restar the nuke/chain-reaction

[fathom sky]

24 for a shotgun is great, and that's not even factoring it's 50 something on Incarnon Mode

[hexed lodge]

what are your shards and stats? the main issue i see is overextended

[swift pecan]

@scenic echo @fathom sky too late for that. now choose from this

[spiral pulsar]

tau Red hard for streght

[lethal vine]

Still wanna trade?

[fathom sky]

I'd stick with left but get a second opinion.

[fathom sky]

Like, are you sure you're not confusing it with Boar.

[hexed lodge]

Only one? i see, you need 255% ability str to nuke effectively

[hexed lodge]

yup

[spiral pulsar]

bc i fused the Red One for orange One for mesa 😭😭

i have only other 4 do you say if I put them inside it will work efficiently?

[hexed lodge]

just take off overextended and replace it with Stretch

[spiral pulsar]

ok thx man

and now i can spend 500 plat on seva fashion

[lethal vine]

alr i sent you a dm on the trade. we can negotiate prices there

[scenic echo]

FUDGE i was talking about the astilla, not strun - choose right

[fierce lark]

okay i was gonna say

26% base cc is like, not bad at all

[wild rune]

especially on a shotgun

[fierce lark]

the only reason strun doesn't take the crit/hybrid evo is because the status chance evo is insane

[wild rune]

also I'd say left still on that riven personally
the reload speed is super nice QoL and both of them enable guaranteed crits on Incarnoff with Critical Deceleration

I will always advocate for reload speed on incarnon rivens

except for like
Kunai which hits reload cap already with an evolution
Sicarus because it doesn't transform with its niches

[fierce lark]

this one is a bit weird

heat is not the element you want but great roll otherwise

[turbid gyro]

just got my first riven what gun should i put it on im MR7 and its a rifle one

[swift pecan]

alrdy taken the heat one 💀

i was using heat on my strun so amma swap that heat mod with this riven

[abstract bison]

my strun has a multishot and heat and negative recoil riven, a blast electric build with cannonade and the fixed fire rate sucks

[swift pecan]

dont have incarnon yet. hopefully we get it soon

[swift pecan]

just remove cannonade

swap it with smthing else

[abstract bison]

the riven also has negative fire rate so add that on top of crit decceleration and it shoots like my grandma

adding cannonade actually makes it faster 😂

but hey negative recoil means i don't have to buy an adapter for the exilus lol

[swift pecan]

welp. wierd situaton but at the end of the day. it should work and it is working. so no need to worry 😆

[abstract bison]

so huge positive multishot, some heat element, negative fire rate and recoil riven

wait i think i have a screenshot of it somewhere

ah here it is haha 42 multishot

[swift pecan]

dang thats good

[abstract bison]

part of me wants to sell it and just do a rivenless viral electric build like everyone else

[fierce lark]

galv savvy doesn't work on the incarnon form btw

[hard dove]

It works partially

[swift pecan]

i got these options with ms. but i skipped these.

[wild rune]

oh yea, strun incarnon is weirdly all radial, huh
not even the slightest of direct impact damage?

or am I thinking of the wrong gun

[swift pecan]

a friend told me that ms doesnt matter on incarnon so i skipped

[hard dove]

Ms still effect incarnon

[fierce lark]

well yeah i guess it works but it's only adding 1/3rd of the damage

[swift pecan]

will see when icarnon comes in rotation. i might roll it more according to that 🤔

[wild rune]

The only incarnon to my knowledge that doesn't benefit from Multishot is specifically the radial portion of Zylok Incarnon, and even then it's meant to be a priming hit
for some reason I cannot explain to you, the weaker radial damage of that thing hits before the stronger direct damage

[astral tinsel]

also radial damage of torid, burston

basically any hitscan / beam AoE

[abstract bison]

yeah but incarnoff is still really really strong with it

[swift pecan]

hmm

i might reroll it then

[abstract bison]

cannonade mods lock you out of any external fire rate buffs too so no haste mote, no reinforced bond, no volt speed no nothin

just fixed
pew pew pew

[fierce lark]

strun shoots fast enough that cannonade doesn't feel bad

[hard dove]

Volt don't buff fr

Just reload spd

[abstract bison]

oh right right just the reload

silly me

[novel bear]

Buffing reload speed on strun is very good too
Since it reloads one by one

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a build for the incarnon prisma skanna? im tryna take it to high lv steel path and have no idea what to do with it.

[fierce lark]

🦀 💦

[abstract bison]

Excalibur
Braton Vandal
Lato Vandal
Prisma Skana

[hard dove]

John warframe choice of gear

[scenic echo]

John warframe, except.....Excalibur...Umbra?

[abstract bison]

my loadout rn

Excalibur Umbra
AX-52
Sagek Prime
Nikana Prime

[hollow scarab]

that is more or less the idea yeah but make it braton incarnon istead of the vandel

[abstract bison]

sometimes it's

Sicarus Prime
Glaive Prime

[hard dove]

Well you can make incarnon out of vandal

[abstract bison]

the AX-52 is a glorified syandana that can also kill

[hard dove]

Glorious spray and pray with ax52 and crux

[hollow scarab]

cuz i thought it would be funny to run steel path as umbra with more or less my default loadout but i dont have build for umbra, braton prime with the incarnon, or the prisma skana incarnon lmao. im like just getting to these ones

[hard dove]

The one gun i will nvr ran out of ammo with using gauss

[abstract bison]

i'm sad that your holstered melee disappears when you activate exalted blade

it wasn't like that before what changed

i want my nikana to still be displayed i didn't buy this back holster for nothin

[drowsy pelican]

How well does arcane persistence work onHildryn?

[novel bear]

Awful

Probably the worst frame for it

[hollow scarab]

so i know "dont just do whatever a youtuber says" but whats a good youtuber to trust for like baseline steel path stuff that ill edit myself to my style? im not the best at builds and dont wanna come out here for like every build im doing lmao

[hard dove]

You want a frame that does nothing?

[drowsy pelican]

Drifter if they hit the gym

[near vortex]

Parasitic Armor Hildryn
Lemme cook

[celest thicket]

Can someone explain why the ruvox needs to have a attack speed nerf in incarnon form?

We can have world destroyers but punching fast with puncture damage ? Thats too much

[hollow mantle]

Weapon.??

[atomic talon]

My bad.

Any suggestions?

[drowsy pelican]

How much kuva did this man use?

[drowsy pelican]

I usually put Hunter munitions on the acceltra

[tardy lily]

It is insane to me that Nyx Assimilate + Dual Viciss is allowed

"What if you were invincible, but also you could move at normal speed"

[valid cargo]

Exec tenet or sampotes for kullervo?

[mighty flare]

sampotes

[novel bear]

You mean like revenant?

[tardy lily]

okay fair, I go out of my way to avoid using Revenant so he's just not on my radar 😄

[fierce lark]

persistence hildryn actually made me physically laugh

that's like the one way you can actually just turn off a warframe

ive never seen that

[abstract bison]

uhh uhh it's called a weapon platform build

[wild rune]

I did a parasitic armor hildryn build at one point

it was not good at all but it was REALLY funny

3k health hildryn with parasitic armor

[novel bear]

Parasitic armor hildryn is still better than persistence hildryn

And you can easily reach 100k ehp with expertise

[abstract bison]

lavos prim has 1600 health with archon vitality but doesn't have the armor requirement for persistence to activate

unless

you place one blue archon shard and voila persistence lavos prim

iirc lavos has status immunity shenanigans so maybe no worries on heat proc armor debuffs

[copper narwhal]

This build brings me joy

My Mr freeze kullervo Okina build

[rigid dirge]

Any thoughts on this riven?

New to rivens and such so I don't know how good it is, iffy about the mag capacity decrease but idk

[abstract bison]

ok so this and then two armor shards for 1.4k armor without having to slot in an armor mod

then maybe adaptation to make the 1.6k hp even tankier with DR

oh wait two tauforged blues and then unairu 200 armor passive

big hammar

maybe sprinkle in more tauforged blues that give free 7.5% health regen for even more laziness

[old marsh]

Can u gain OG while persistence is active?

[abstract bison]

yep

[old marsh]

Well. That solves the armor issue

[abstract bison]

1.4k armor would render us safe from any armor debuffs

the problem now is magnetic procs

[old marsh]

ye. I do wonder if there is a better Lavos build without persistence

[abstract bison]

and energy or universal orbs give us status immunity for 10 secs on lavos's passive

[rigid dirge]

Sorry is this the wrong place for Rivens?

[latent latch]

Can anyone tell me what a good Nataruk build for steel path is I can use galvanized mods

[spare geyser]

Which is better- Arcane Barrier or Aegis?

[mighty flare]

aegis

[spare geyser]

For Hildryn which of these would be best-

Arcane Velocity
Arcane Expertise
Arcane Aegis

[mighty flare]

velocity & expertise

[crisp pine]

how well does aegis works with cat shields and recharge mods with omorari?

[pure gate]

Beautifully, ive tested it till level cap but i did use nezha 3 but I was never downed a single time

[rocky aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423566757494390894/1426164543247224853/meme.gif

[crisp pine]

Kek

Why do i feel like adaption is just a trap for hp builds?

[old marsh]

adaptation works on shields too but honestly i have dropped it from most builds now

[crisp pine]

My issue with that is that you have be shot at 9 time in the best case. By shot
#2, you already dead.

[old marsh]

ye. good for early game. even early SP. later it falls off

RG is just better unless u have another way to status cleanse

[crisp pine]

rapid resilience is pseudo way that good for budget drain

[novel bear]

Now that persistence is a thing, it’s easier to build healthtanks for that rather than rely on dr from adaptation

[velvet pulsar]

U can also have 3 well of life active to outheal persistence damage and get status immunity

However keep this in mind that all active well of life will instantly die if any ally took lethal damage

[onyx ridge]

Any valkyr prime builds

[fast parrot]

I may or may not have cooked to close to Sol on this set up for Gyre and Syam any ideas to make this better?

[distant pendant]

I am struggling with the Tenet Glaxion, I feel like this riven should be good (a negative would make this better of course) but it feels like there's no good spot to put it. Does the dispo of the Glaxion just make any rivens for it to just be bad? I even have a second but can't figure out what I'd even want to put in place of any existing mods 😭

[ocean solar]

yo what should i pick

[midnight horizon]

Yo

Wth is this

How I got infinite?

[zealous rapids]

division by zero somewhere in 🍝 code

[novel bear]

Visual bug from primary overcharge probably

[zealous rapids]

my guess is you use hildryn or lavos with energy to multishot arcane

[mighty pelican]

i once had inf in multishot

[velvet pulsar]

#gameplay-discussion

[dusty dragon]

Apparently people are subsuming uriel’s 1??? Thoughts?

Losing out on the mobility feels terrible, but i think it makes heat inherit much easier???

[velvet pulsar]

least loss on damage because they want his 4 nuke and his 3 builds 4 the fastest, along with the summons on 2 and 3 being useful while the summon on 1 is not much important

2 is survivability so obviously that's important too

[dusty dragon]

Yeah i barely notice the 1 summon tbh

Id probably put on damage reduction or smth

[velvet pulsar]

honestly IDK
maybe people are fulfilling their nourish hunger because that way Uriel can have viral heat on all weapons without needing to mod them

[dusty dragon]

Ugh nourish

[velvet pulsar]

IKR

other option is the good old roar which is boosting his 4

maybe xata's whisper for kuva sobek nuking

I can't relate this time coz I don't feel like subsuming any of his abilities

[abstract wind]

lol

[hard dove]

Subsume infested mobility lol

[obsidian agate]

Roar or eclipse on mesa

[vestal lintel]

For zephyr, would it be possible (and worth it) to swap any of the mods here to put Augur reach? I dont have it but i can easily get it.

[obsidian agate]

aero vantage or streamline

[vestal lintel]

Yeah aero is more of a qol mod

[midnight horizon]

Anyone have a general build for Mesa P? No shards, just mods

[tiny saddle]

Is that the cook?
Phage

[near snow]

i keep rumning out of ammo using the phantasma how do i fix it

[quick tusk]

Hi, I wanted a kuva weapon recommendation. Currently want to switch from Nataruuk in favor of a fast firing weapon, could be a shotgun or a rifle. Any recommendations? I have a few plat to spare

[hexed coyote]

Whats the best arcane for massetter prime?

[left helm]

are there any good builds for frost prime, inaros prime, lavos prime, and hydroid prime? just got them and i wanna see how they play

[simple fulcrum]

can you help me with a crit build for my soma

[grizzled iris]

Tennet glaxion, can it be crit build or go full status..?

[grizzled iris]

Sorry for the low quality pic. My soma build is this.(For element, of your choice)

[simple fulcrum]

can you tell me where to farm and is it the same fopr non prime

[midnight horizon]

chat is this too much

[green forge]

Any vauban players here? I have some fond memories of max range vortex builds. I know Vaubans only other relevant ability is flachette orbs because they have enemy level damage scaling. If I do the 250% range vortex build is flachette orb still worth it with just base 100% ability strength?

[vagrant lagoon]

Yo L/R dudes

[summer trout]

?

[coral crest]

Actually his 3 also has scaling

[mellow palm]

So, gloom mesa is a thing lol

Now it's actually a thing with arcane persistence

I pair it with arcane blessing to extend the time i get hit before i die, which is questionable since as long as gloom is on and peacemaker is also on, i can't die

[marsh marsh]

Does Precision Intensify work with Arcane Expertise on Hildryn?

[mellow palm]

Precision intensify only works exclusively for 4th ability, not ability percentage as a whole

But feel free to try it out if you aren't sure

My regulators i use corrosive radiation, secondary irradiate of course, i pair with furax wraith for 45% fire rate

[marsh marsh]

It does work lol.

[mellow palm]

Oh, nice to know it, i never tried that before

I shouldn't say that lmao

I was too sure, oh well

Oh wait, IT DOES WORK

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[marsh marsh]

xD

[mellow palm]

So that 90% applies for arcane expertise ONLY when your 4th is activated with precision intensify on

Hildryn players are eating good

[marsh marsh]

It's a Shield frenzy! XD

[mellow palm]

Now i actually wonder, if arcane persistence actually convert shield into health instead of removing it

[old marsh]

but we lose out on str when trying to hit 328% str for single cast pillage armor strip. u can use molt aug but for shorter missions u have to rely on pure dmg or double casts

[mellow palm]

If this was the case, hildryn with more health than inaros LMAO

Wait a second, arcane persistence convert shield into hp, does that mean primed shield mod probably replace vitality since it provides more shield (hp)? Arcane persistence + arcane expertise would also be a thing? Interesting

Meh

[marsh marsh]

Hmmmm

Arcane Persistance doesn't convert shields into health. It just removes the shield and gives you a hitcap of 500 Damage/s when your Armor is above 700.

[fiery escarp]

does anyone else use triple umbral mods or am i just a boomer

[marsh marsh]

This is what I have on her. I also have 2x Tauforged Blue for Shield and 1x Standard red for strength.

[marsh marsh]

Myself only on Excal rn really.

[fiery escarp]

triple umbral + adaptation + arcane grace = treatment for severe skill issues (me)

[marsh marsh]

XD

Perfect tank lol

[fiery escarp]

what else can solve skill issue

i also use the panzer for the lethal damage

i need more ideas lol

[vagrant anvil]

What stats should I go for on a riven for Kuva Hek

My current is
81% Cold
93% CD
Or stay on this one

[marsh marsh]

CC, CD, Toxin

That is what I would go for.

[vagrant anvil]

Why toxin?

[marsh marsh]

So you can either have Corro or Viral.

Different builds, you know?

[vagrant anvil]

I have fire main bonus
And cold on riven and using poison to have viral heat rn

[plain drum]

toxin is more versatile

unless you're sticking to that build then ig its fine

[vagrant anvil]

So trying to roll it into a toxin element and cd cc roll?

[plain drum]

ideally yeah

toxin can be used standalone, can be used for corrosive, viral, gas, you name it, and with corrosive builds you can run nourish for corrosive viral and etc

corrosive blast, toxin blast

[fiery escarp]

is blast damage good now??

[severe bough]

Mag then build for raw coro cold

[fiery escarp]

i remember it was a meme years ago

[plain drum]

blast is meta

for chaining guns

[severe bough]

Blast is only meta on beam weapons (not even every beam)

[fiery escarp]

what why lol what did they change to make it good

[severe bough]

And use it with nourish or smth else that gives viral

[toxic cypress]

Anyone got a good nami solo build?

[severe bough]

Influence crab

[marsh marsh]

They just made it do actual damage now.

[plain drum]

lowk forgot what the old blast did but for the new blast, applying a blast status will make it detonate after 1.5 seconds to deal 30% of your damage, at 10 stacks you can detonate it early to do an aoe explosion that deals like hundreds of percent of damage of your base damage for 5 meters

[toxic cypress]

I love melee influence!!!!

[marsh marsh]

When you have enough stacks and chain it.

[hexed coyote]

Best cedo arcane?

[hexed coyote]

It makes my favorite melee weapon (which is trash) a good weapon

[vagrant anvil]

So I rolled and now have to choose

107cd 94 cold
Or
+80 status dur
132dmg
73 heat

[plain drum]

abt 300% base damage i think

[fiery escarp]

hmmm guess ill give it a try

[severe bough]

Idk what hek want for stats as a riv but cc cd ms are always good picks and harmless neg

[plain drum]

pair it with beam weapons and a chaining gun like nukor or smth and it causes a chain reaction

[plain drum]

usually paired with corrosive for better damage, and with nourish for even stronger damage

[marsh marsh]

Is Blast just good on Beam weapons?

Or could I also put it for example on the Trumna?

[severe bough]

Only beam weapons really

[marsh marsh]

Hmm alright

[rocky aurora]

The Blast interaction with Xata's whisper also triple dips on Faction damage multipliers 👍

[marsh marsh]

(if you are into those mods) Oh wow!

[toxic cypress]

Any builds i can use with this riv?

[marsh marsh]

Damn that's good for a hybrid build!

[toxic cypress]

Word

[vagrant anvil]

No luck my now last roll is just 203 dmg and 53 reload speed ugh

[marsh marsh]

Oof

[fiery escarp]

full poo lad

the good old days when vaykor hek was meta lol

and couldnt use the special multishot mod for reasons

[marsh marsh]

Oh man, I still remember the spin-to-win meta.

That was lovely.

[vagrant anvil]

So corrosive cold is better on hek as viral heat?

[gusty plume]

hello, does anyone have a fairly solid gyre build that they can share 🏃‍♂️

[trim hill]

Helminth'd Hideous Resistance over her 1
Arcanes are Aegis and Augmented

[frank matrix]

is this a good burston incarnon build?

[dapper tree]

what arcane should i use on the sampotes? infuence or afflictions

[trim hill]

Probably afflictions, since Sampotes is 9/10 going to be built for slams

[timid dust]

do i use cascadia flare over secondary fortifier on regulators

[novel bear]

No
Mesa already has an innate base damage increase that scales with strength, and you’re usually running galv shot too

[mortal canyon]

peeps, the operator ||powers thingy|| i've seen there are 3 AoE ones. They do all the same dps ?

or they more debuff rather than dps ?

[velvet pulsar]

Vazarin is collective curse

[frail quail]

has anyone got a good corinth build that i can steal

[velvet pulsar]

Unairu also has armor strip on the ultimate

[mortal canyon]

explosive shot or the shotty itself ?

[mortal canyon]

100% ?

[velvet pulsar]

IDK
I've only seen other people talk about hidden unairu armor strip not mentioned in the game

Honestly for DPS I'd either pick madurai or vazarin

Vazarin lasts 40s as collective curse with status vulnerability

[frail quail]

preferably the explosive shot but eithers fine lol

[velvet pulsar]

Meanwhile madurai lasts a little but has more range

[mortal canyon]

it's 1 or the other.

If u build explosive shot, the normal shotty will be meh. Same on the other way

[frail quail]

explosive then because explosions are cool

[mortal canyon]

this is an old build i have (it sucks)

not sure if it's that good

i'll try it, wait a sec

[modest vine]

@wild arrow

[wild arrow]

tyyyy

[modest vine]

np

[mortal canyon]

it sucks

[wild arrow]

why :(

[mortal canyon]

the one i sent ? it deals no dmg with the explosions xD

even with 0 armor

[wild arrow]

oh wait i didnt see that one

[mortal canyon]

i liked one i saw in a video of a hammer and a big area

and the one that has a bow

those looked cool

[velvet pulsar]

Unairu

[velvet pulsar]

Madurai

Honestly unairu isn't anything much unique

Madurai atleast gives 90% ability strength

[mortal canyon]

😮

[mighty pelican]

unairu gives ammo and universal orbs and a ton of armor

[velvet pulsar]

Universal ammo and universal orbs yes

[mortal canyon]

define "a ton of armor"

1k ?

[velvet pulsar]

Like health conversion

[deep latch]

Enthrall cannot target acolytes anymore ?

[mortal canyon]

ohhhhh

[proud anchor]

2250 I think

[velvet pulsar]

Armor will get used up if u take health damage

[mighty pelican]

u know health conversion? the simaris mod that gives up to 3x 450 armor? it gives the same thing but easily 5+ stacks of it

there is some bug which lets you get practically infinite stacks with it currently

i believe its still in the game?

[mortal canyon]

i can spend plat for the guns right ? instead of grind ?

or the grind is easy ?

[mighty pelican]

what guns? if prime weapons you can use the warframe . market site to get the cheapest prizes and not get scammed

regular ones from the market are much more expensive to buy with plat and are better to grind urself

[mortal canyon]

the new skills aren't like weapons thingys ?

[mighty pelican]

its a 3rd operator ability u need to charge up first like an ultimate

they have lasting buffs for 30s

[mortal canyon]

where i unlock it ?

[mighty pelican]

vazarin a bit longer if maxed. idk about zenurik but that one gives everyone near you and yourself inf energy lol

[mortal canyon]

i already did the missions

[velvet pulsar]

And no u can't buy all of those
U can only buy 1

[mighty pelican]

the market bundle is only one time yes

[mighty pelican]

marie

wisp proto sells it

[velvet pulsar]

The rest u gotta grind anyway

[mighty pelican]

naramon sure is funny lol

[velvet pulsar]

Do u have lavos or ivara BTW? @mighty pelican

[mighty pelican]

i got both but only played for MR and not more

soo im not too knowledgeable on them

hoping we get different weapons per school in the future that we can pick between, because this move would fit perfectly in warframe https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-vergil-judgement-cut-end-gif-21665814

and reb is a dmc fan..... reb do your thing...

[frail quail]

what ability is that i saw it yesterday and couldnt figure it out

[velvet pulsar]

Vexoric

[frail quail]

ah ok thank you

[past jungle]

anyone got a gyre build?

[near snow]

does epitah recharge?

[velvet pulsar]

Nope

U gotta pickup ammo

[mighty pelican]

works essentially like a bow

[trim hill]

Wdym? I thought the build strat for Corinth was the airburst primes and then uses buckshot for single-target?

[mighty pelican]

yeah i built for both too

[onyx ridge]

Ty

[trim hill]

https://overframe.gg/build/950405/corinth-prime/hm-corinth-prime-2026/
Try this one if you want both. Airburst primes enemies with viral, buckshot slashes. Replace the riven with status damage if you don't have one

[mortal canyon]

i used to go for cutting for main shot

[trim hill]

It still works well

[frail quail]

thank you🙏

[trim hill]

This isn't a one-size-fits-all build, now. HM needs very specific conditions to work well nowadays, and Corinth just so happens to fit the bill.

For Corinth specifically, tho, this should get you through just about all standard content we currently have in the game.

[deep grotto]

Why do people always complain about the impact procs on War?

[trim hill]

Idk, but impact was changed somewhat "recently" to be a much better damage type with a useful niche status effect.

[proper ermine]

in what channel do i ask if the riven mod i got is worth keeping or if i need to reroll it

[trim hill]

You can ask here

[mighty pelican]

oh hey i main corinth
riven gives +status chance + crit chance -status duration, can be replaced for a substitute of any of that or the primed +damage mod

running it with purple shards for even more electricity

[proud anchor]

2 reasons

1. The broken war was mainly slash so the War being mainly impact was odd
2. Before enemy armor and health was changed, slash was the best damage type for grineer. That has now been dethroned by melee influence

[deep grotto]

Ah i see

[proper ermine]

I got this and it is the first riven mod i got and don't know if it is good

[trim hill]

Looks solid to me, ngl

[mighty pelican]

oh shit magistar rivens sell for 150+ just for it being for magistar

[proud anchor]

That looks good for the incarnon

[mighty pelican]

the stats are also really good already

dont roll the stats its good enough to possibly try to get something better

[proud anchor]

And unrolled too

[frail quail]

thank you! been trying to get a corinth riven to reroll for similar stats but man its a pain xD

[mighty pelican]

i got 400+ rolls...

[frail quail]

goddamn 😭

[mighty pelican]

anything including crit chance and then possibly either status chance, multishot or crit dmg is good

best possible negative would be firerate since cannonade makes it so u can change it, or recoil for the funnies

[frail quail]

ran outta kuva and for now im stuck with this😔

[past jungle]

any gyre builds?

[midnight horizon]

Help I need Mesa build

Idk how her survibility works

No shards but her and her regulator

[patent igloo]

press 3

[midnight horizon]

The 90% doesn't seem to work that effectively, is there a way to do it?

Like tips and tricks, I am new at using Mesa

[patent igloo]

It's 95% max only to projectiles

[midnight horizon]

Ah

[patent igloo]

that means no melee, no eximus auras, etc

other than that it's pretty simple

[midnight horizon]

So any tips around it?

[patent igloo]

just distance yourself from enemies lmao

another thing people do since mesa has an infinite size magazine is just go crazy with the fire rate

[midnight horizon]

Oh... Any builds for her regulator?

[vocal vector]

which one would yall go for?

[steady epoch]

Left

[vocal vector]

this is previewing for the normal zarr, not kuva

just to be clear

normal is 1.15 kuva is 0.7

[steady epoch]

It works on Kuva

Oh ok

[patent igloo]

I stole this build from someone in the server

[midnight horizon]

Damn how many formas is that hahahahah

[patent igloo]

it's kind of minmaxed

[steady epoch]

Why Encumber and not Outburst or Flare? I assume orange shards are involved in this?

[midnight horizon]

I can see that

[patent igloo]

impetus + encumber

very underrated

[midnight horizon]

What's with Encumber and Outburst

?

[proud anchor]

Outburst gives the highest possible dps

[midnight horizon]

That's the new shiz right?

[proud anchor]

But it does need for you to stack combo on your melee

[steady epoch]

You need a high initial combo melee for it to work, but yeh Outburst is probably best. I recently switched back to it

[proud anchor]

So you'll probably need melee crescendo, ceramic dagger incarnon or vastilok

[midnight horizon]

I'm still new so... Sorry ;~; I just bought Mesa yesterday

[midnight horizon]

Got me a Lesion

Heard it's very good

[steady epoch]

I use Ceramic Dagger with an IC riven so I never build combo lol but yeh normally
You do have to build some

[proud anchor]

Yea its good. Since you are new, dont worry too much about the heavy build crafting stuff for now

[patent igloo]

encumber applies extra status effects sometimes when you proc any status effect, I believe it can do 13 different ones
impetus gives +6 ability strength when an ability procs a status,
regulators count as an ability
13 * 6% = +78% ability strength to your regulators, to nourish, and to shooting gallery

[midnight horizon]

But me I don't do like... Those stuff like

If I want gun, I just want gun. I don't want to mess with my Melee just to get a buff for my gun, if that make sense

[midnight horizon]

Ahhh

[midnight horizon]

Yeah, and I just got in SP so that's why I am just messing around trying to find a fit for my Mesa

[rocky aurora]

Remember, mesa's regulator bonus damage is additive only...

[midnight horizon]

Trynna make me into Billy Kid from ZZZ

[midnight horizon]

What do you mean?

[steady epoch]

My Ceramic Dagger gets this bonus to 120% without ever touching an enemy :3

[rocky aurora]

Im at 100% str and still reliably kills level cap

[proud anchor]

I would look into getting mesas shooting gallery augment so that enemy weapons are disabled and you can blind them after a few kills

[midnight horizon]

I only have the walts for now hahaha

[rocky aurora]

More strength on mesa's 4 just adds damage, it's additive like serration is additive

[midnight horizon]

Ahhhh OK ok

[rocky aurora]

Stacking additive is worst way to increase damage

Thats why 100% ability strength mesa regulators (when built right) can kill cap

[patent igloo]

and this is why I never talk in the builds discussion channel because there's always something that doesn't make sense and makes me look like an idiot

[midnight horizon]

Like Serration and Heavy Caliber? I did that once in my Nataruk before I got Burston P Incarnon

Idk why, I never did that in my Burston tho, I go Acuity on Burston

[proud anchor]

Don't worry youre fine.
There's a lot of goofy interactions and such in this game

[midnight horizon]

It all comes down to preferences, like I am gathering data here. Bc most of the time I won't copy every one of the builds, gotta build mine

[patent gorge]

Hi guys i am new on warframe (i have 2h time on warframe)

[midnight horizon]

Welcome to the community!

[patent gorge]

What is the best character and weapon?

[patent gorge]

Huh

[midnight horizon]

Eventually.... Volt for versatility, base on my experience Volt is a good frame for beginners. Weapons? Idk, every weapon is good as long as you know how to mod them

The best part in warframe is building the mods and grinding it. So it goes down to your mods but since ur a beginner you don't have to worry that much yet

[proud anchor]

....im frightened

[midnight horizon]

XDDD

[patent gorge]

For now I'm playing with Excalibur and defend Paris ☺️

[midnight horizon]

Amen!

Be the sword that they need

[patent gorge]

I love this combo

[patent gorge]

Ty

[hard ibex]

whats a good companion to use with gyre?

[midnight horizon]

Yeah bows are very good range, I do prefer guns, but that's me 🙂

[patent igloo]

there is a cool interaction with the dex nikana

[patent igloo]

these two mods alone get you to 11x combo ONLY on the dex nikana

[patent gorge]

But idk how to build weapon

[midnight horizon]

Oh I had those 2,i did that yesterdah

[patent gorge]

I kill capitan vor

[midnight horizon]

You don't have to worry about it yet, just add what you need to add first, put what ever mod you got

[midnight horizon]

Nice one! Congrats! First boss?

[patent gorge]

Thanks

Yeah😂

[patent gorge]

Yeah

[midnight horizon]

Anytime! If you want a more direct response just DM me any time, as I am learning I can help you too

That's what's good in Warframe! With experience you can help the young tennos!

I will say I have enough to help you in the basic stuff you need

[compact cypress]

anybody have a build for the paris incarnon?

[patent gorge]

Thank you very much

Byee

[midnight horizon]

I will just I don't have one, but I can share you my Nataruk build!

It may work, or not, but it's a good way to experiment

[midnight horizon]

Cya and enjoy!

[compact cypress]

yeah go ahead! even if it wont be great on the paris i dont mind a nataruk build

[hard ibex]

here's ninjase's build for paris

[midnight horizon]

Just swap Heavy Caliber with Serration

[hard ibex]

can replace longbow sharpshop with deadhead / merciless and then replace serration with fire rate or stick with it if u want

[midnight horizon]

Oh and there is a Paris build there for reference

[hard ibex]

actually scratch that

dont replace serration

[midnight horizon]

XD

[compact cypress]

im in need of that paris mod but hes mine so far still just leveling the thing

[midnight horizon]

Good start I would say

Just lacking elementals

[hard ibex]

paris has multiplicative galvanized aptitude so u wanna get that max level and then look to priming enemies for tons more damage

[midnight horizon]

Wait does Paris have high crit chance?

[simple frost]

is gammacor incarnon worth building?
and should i get the normal or the suda one?

[compact cypress]

at 135 with mine

[midnight horizon]

Yeah yeah but I mean the base, no Incarnon yet

[compact cypress]

ohh

mines still base i think, i havent done any of the incarnon levels yet lol

[midnight horizon]

If ur looking at beam, then probably go Atomos. That's just me ^w^

[midnight horizon]

Oh hahahah damn that's high crit chance fr fr

[compact cypress]

sitting on the credits and endo to max out a few mods but just thinking of the forma ill have to use on everything hurts 😭

[simple frost]

noted
just checking because well
free skin lol

[midnight horizon]

Damn that 71k Endos, gimme that! Hahahaha

[hard ibex]

if ur not crafting a forma per day ur doing something wrong :p

[midnight horizon]

Oh habahab

[compact cypress]

oh theres always a forma cooking

[midnight horizon]

Speaking of that, I need to get my formas again, bc I need Mesa to be good

[compact cypress]

gna get some plat for forma bundles and do everything one time

[hard ibex]

i love mesa i invested SO much into her after i got a groll ocucor riven

(sold the riven)

[midnight horizon]

I invested on Vauban P and base Volt bc they are my faves, now adding Lavos and Gara on that list hahaah

Still checking on Mesa tho

[compact cypress]

ive 7 forma on my volt yet half the slots arent even forma'd

doing eidolons ruined my guy

had some weird polarities on him

[midnight horizon]

I just switch my formas around hahahah

[compact cypress]

there was a bunch of those triangle polarities on him

basically made him unmoddable for anything else

[midnight horizon]

I have my volt on Melee Frame so i just focus on durstion and str, I removed his 4 and replace it with Wrathful Advance

I gotta try that with my Lesion

[compact cypress]

man the day kullervo p comes out 😩

[midnight horizon]

We all be dead bahahahab

I do hope Koumei and Citrine have a Prime soon

[trim hill]

Voruna and Citrine are the female frames this year iirc

Kullervo this year, too

[midnight horizon]

So possibly both or one of them will have a Prime? Ooooooo

[near crater]

Hey I'm gonna have a valence fused K Quartakk soon and I want to ask which combined element should I go for? The current one has electricity, the second one has heat. Should I use an elemental vice or is radiation gonna be okay?

[trim hill]

They should both. It should be Styanax, Kullervo, Voruna, and Citrine. They always do 2 male, 2 female (with some small exceptions)

[midnight horizon]

Oh styanax???? Oh I'm excited with my boy Styanax

[simple frost]

i'm waiting for kullervo

the melee goat can be even more goated

[midnight horizon]

The Gilgamesh of Warframe!

[compact cypress]

gna be styanax voruna?

as the next two i think

[midnight horizon]

Idk, as what is said it's 2 male, 2 female

[compact cypress]

i cant remember who came out first between citrine and voruna tbh

[midnight horizon]

Not sure but it's the most plausible

[trim hill]

Voruna first, then Citrine

[compact cypress]

i just hope styanax prime actually looks good bro 😭

[trim hill]

They haven't missed any prime aesthetics lately

[midnight horizon]

True.... Hahahha

[simple frost]

citrine prime will be huge, ngl
-# because you won't get me to farm her even at gun point

[compact cypress]

yeahhh my hopes are high rn

[proud anchor]

I still need to get citrines weapons

[trim hill]

Just finished farming her a second time. Do not recommend...

[midnight horizon]

Yeah, tho I only have my preferences like, I like Seva Base more than his prime, but that's just my taste hahaha

[midnight horizon]

XDDD

[trim hill]

Oh naaaah, I like that gilded Spanish Capitan look, meself

[midnight horizon]

Hahahahaha ay that's yours tho, I love me some evil lookin bstard bahahahahah

[compact cypress]

sevagoth prime has so much drip already i dont get why some hate it

[midnight horizon]

Though I haven't used Sevagoth that much

[midnight horizon]

It's not that I hate it or smth, I just like hisbase more, that's all to it

[simple frost]

i kinda think xaku prime is a bit flop?
probably just me
but i prefer the nightware skin more
-# mostly because the metallic texture works great for void angel fashion

[trim hill]

Even Xaku Prime looks sick, but I probably won't swap to it from the deluxe. Xaku's deluxe is tight

[midnight horizon]

And plus I have me lookin Seva like this (lacking the Lucifuge helmet)

[simple frost]

real

[compact cypress]

base seva is definitely easier to fashion

[midnight horizon]

I crash out on Xaku so much I made her my box breaker hahahahahH

[hexed lodge]

I love all four sevagoth skins... have like 20+ fashions for him

[midnight horizon]

Seva itself, both base and prime has aura hahaha

[trim hill]

True endgame build

[midnight horizon]

XDDDDDDD

I just can't get to make her fit my playstyle that's why

[simple frost]

void angel wannabe xaku
kinda want the tennocon syanada tho

[midnight horizon]

When I am rich in WF, you have to show me yours hahahah

[trim hill]

I like running as many augments on frames as possible. Xaku don't let me do that

[hard ibex]

xaku is alot of bells and whistles to achieve the same as basically any other frame imo

[compact cypress]

oh yeah brother

[hexed lodge]

triple-augment Lavos yet?

[midnight horizon]

I just can't seem to balance her survivability, energy effiecuancy and damage. That's my problem with Xaku always

[simple frost]

yeah, i only do the augment for the 4
and so far it's kinda useless?

[midnight horizon]

Only got Valence and that's it

[trim hill]

I literally just finished that build last night, LOL

[simple frost]

how about mirage?
all of her augment are good
but usually they don't go well together

[trim hill]

Yeah, I usually helminth out Sleight if I want to run multi augs on her (which I usually do)

[midnight horizon]

I think it's just to the point where it's "Needed the most" than "Needed them all"

[simple frost]

yeah

my mirage is like
1+3
2
4

[midnight horizon]

Like me I just need Valence and I'm G

Speaking of, is Lesion that really good?

[hexed lodge]

yeah most warframes can work with just 1 augment tbf

[midnight horizon]

Bc I hear a lot of people say Lesion is good to like... 99% of content

And I just got Lesion earlier

[simple frost]

i mean we are at the point that if a melee weapon has high status chance
slap influence on it
and it's a good weapon

[compact cypress]

yeah lmao

[midnight horizon]

Lesion is mostly Toxin....

;~;

[compact cypress]

can still be an influence stick

probably

[simple frost]

it means you can do viral electric or gas electric

[midnight horizon]

Ah

[simple frost]

plap plap plap plap
get influenced get influenced get influenced get influenced

[midnight horizon]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[compact cypress]

LMAOO

[hexed lodge]

Has pretty good slash weight and great status chance... by itself, looks good with an okay passive, not huge not bad, just good.

[midnight horizon]

@simple frost be like: "get influence.... Now..... Now I said...."

[midnight horizon]

Oh aight

[glass bolt]

was wondering if I should change that 2 other red shard into 2 more Purple crit shard

[simple frost]

i
don't recall exalted blade has good crit?
might as well go all in for str to increase SC and slap influence on it

[midnight horizon]

Well thanks guys, I kinda need t go

[compact cypress]

might be the worlds most invested excal

[midnight horizon]

Cya

[midnight horizon]

you haven't seen Vauban with 10,000 formas in it...

[simple frost]

not a meme btw
exalted blade has extremely high SC that scale with str
might as well focus on that and slap influence

[compact cypress]

influence 💔 man EVERYTHING uses it atp can we get a primary influence too

[glass bolt]

from what i see, this 1 purple crit shard make the blade 3.5 xCrit damage
put 2 more it became 6x
base total damage on my blade is 2942 and become 3289 after putting 2 strength
i thought multiplicative from crit damage scales better?

[simple frost]

-# it's called gyre with gunblade

[hexed lodge]

Influence just makes anything good, even without high SC cause your pet can proc it

[compact cypress]

heres the paris finally done with the formas

[glass bolt]

because that 2 red shard didnt really increase my crit chance either

[vestal lintel]

Currently using the nataruk as my main primary, is there anything better at mr8? (Doesnt have to be a bow)

[compact cypress]

cedo maybe? honestly the nataruk is super solid

[simple frost]

have you unlocked steel path?
if not then nataruk is still good

[glass bolt]

my blade rn

[simple frost]

or kuva/tenet weapons

[vestal lintel]

nah not yet

[trim hill]

Nice. I dumped all mine into status and run Chromatic for heat

[simple frost]

uh
where weeping wound? can replace vice with that
i'd say you can skip sacrificed pressure and swap with something else as well
like CO or some extra crit damage

[gaunt minnow]

how can i make it better? Its my favorite weapon

[hard ibex]

u need multishot

[trim hill]

Unfortunately, Shred is kinda useless. Better to run straight fire rate instead, since it has explosions on each shot

[simple frost]

ah yes
THE shedu
the one weapon that was extremely popular when i was hanging around in normal star chart then suddenly disappeared the moment i unlocked SP

[hard ibex]

this is the case with tons of weapons

[trim hill]

Also yeah, multishot instead of Heavy Cal

[hard ibex]

phantasma, acceltra, ignis etc

[gaunt minnow]

If only firestorm worked 🥲

[simple frost]

phantsama is good tho?
the heck

[hard ibex]

they all shine in star chart but really tough to make work in steel path

eh phantasma works but its outshone by TONS of other weapons

[gaunt minnow]

Galv chamber?

[glass bolt]

i mean, the exalted blade it already has quite a high status chance so I went for crit

[gaunt minnow]

What do i replace shred with?

[trim hill]

I mean, with enough investment, all those weapons mentioned will still perform well enough. Not game-breaking, but still

[trim hill]

Regular fire rate works

[gaunt minnow]

Because i dont want to use vile acceleration

[simple frost]

primed cope
since you built into status, probably elementalist?

[gaunt minnow]

Maybe, galv elementalist is multiplicative with flat damage on direct hits

[trim hill]

Elementalist
or Speed Trigger, if you really want the extra fire rate

I assume that's why you had Shred on tbw

[gaunt minnow]

Thats right

[hard ibex]

replace serration with primary elementalist, shred with galvanized chamber, replace a 60/60 with a pure elemental mod for more base damage (probably pure heat mod), replace heavy caliber with bane mod (use fire rate mod like speed trigger if u dont like bane)

[gaunt minnow]

Im too lazy for bane mods

I'll go speed trigger

[hard ibex]

oki

you have 2 base damage mods on there rn which are both basically useless thanks to primary merciless

[gaunt minnow]

True

I also have roar on my excal

[hard ibex]

so no need for bane, def go with fire rate

[gaunt minnow]

What about rifle elementalist?

[hard ibex]

see this message

[gaunt minnow]

Ah

[hard ibex]

if u dont have galvanised chamber yet, GET IT, but use regular split chamber for now

[simple frost]

probably not the best reference but here's mine

[gaunt minnow]

I have it

[simple frost]

5 red shards for str

[glass bolt]

and I was thinking if 2 crit purple shard is better than 2 red strength shard in this case, since blood rush also kinda implies that im going to crit most of the time?

[simple frost]

yes
and i think galvanized steel kinda gave me decent crit damage already so i focused more on status proc

[compact cypress]

man what are some melees you guys would reccomend, looking for sum new rn

is the praedos just a support melee or is it good for dps, ive got a riven i could roll on for it but idk if its worth

[hard ibex]

praedos is nuts, rivens are usually useless for it tho as it has bad dispo

[simple frost]

praedos is the speedstick
you don't use it as melee weapon
you use it because its incarnon gives a ton of extra movement speed

[gaunt minnow]

Should I replace hammer shot?

[hard ibex]

nah thats good

[glass bolt]

Hate

[compact cypress]

tbf considering i just built a paris it would be nice so i can always have that sprint speed for the fire rate

[simple frost]

anyway
i'm playing with bo incarnon right now and so far it's pretty neat

[hard ibex]

my favs are dual ichor, falcor and thalys

all of them are influence weapons but they interact with influence in unique ways

[compact cypress]

oooo never gave that one a thought ill try it out next time its in rotation

[hard ibex]

i need to build a bo incarnon i got a racist riven for it i wanna equip :(

[compact cypress]

yeah ichors a beast and the thalys quickly become a favourite influence stick for me

krohkur STILL up there from the early days ❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[hard ibex]

i'd also recommend maybe an exodia contagion zaw if u like messing around with weird interactions

i very often find im doing damage cap with mine on things like mirage

[compact cypress]

i remeber this heavy attack red crit thing you could do with contagion

[trim hill]

Ninkondi is one of my personal faves. If you can't get prime, Pulmonars is also really good.
Right next to that is Thalys for me

[simple frost]

prisma skana is also pretty good as well
bit boring but sometime basic is great

[compact cypress]

but i sold both my zaw rivens due to desperate times 💔

[simple frost]

i mean you can do incarnon of the 3 starting weapons for the funny

probably get that base exca as well

[hard ibex]

my mid ass riven

[compact cypress]

syams also been good fun with volt and kullervo

[hard ibex]

for my exodia weapon

[compact cypress]

is the coda caustacyst good? ive had it sitting here since my first coda lich lol

same with my innodem

[trim hill]

I renamed my Coda Casutacyst...

[compact cypress]

oh.. what to?

[trim hill]

Since it just sprays all over the map

[simple frost]

my innodem is still collecting dust
never bothered to finish its incarnon

[compact cypress]

same LMAO

i think the only reason i crafted it was to evolve another weapon

[simple frost]

lol

[compact cypress]

could be a replacement praedos tho since its got that sprint speed buff

for the time being

[simple frost]

i got baited by a video of volt spamming innodem
then i got it and was like
"wait, volt can do that with all weapons, why bother with midair attack?"

[compact cypress]

xd

i need a better volt build idrk what this man is even built for anyways 😭

yet i still play him so much

[fierce lark]

it's alright. innate corrosive is cool, and the wave the heavy leaves behind applies guaranteed status every second, can pre-strip things out of range

[compact cypress]

normally just running this eclipse build i got from yt thats like super old

[simple frost]

max str+duration
s1 augment
press 1+2
hold e
profit

[hard ibex]

i like building for gating with his 4 augment

[compact cypress]

so he's best as a melee frame then?

[hard ibex]

mass cc

[simple frost]

melee/gun frame

his s4 is pretty good for AoE as well

[compact cypress]

i recently made this trooper build

but it could do with some tlc

[simple frost]

let me
turn on the game

[compact cypress]

bet 🙏

show the volt ways

[simple frost]

been a while since i last checked

[compact cypress]

my most used frame yet idek how to use him right

[simple frost]

here's mine

[compact cypress]

honestly i should swap out trans with blind rage on this

[rocky aurora]

Yes, this is why you dont see mods like serration on a weapon if the arcane provides base damage (like merciless)

[compact cypress]

hows volts survivability without his 4s augment?

[simple frost]

i went with melee for this one
so the trick is to use s1 for electric, nourish for viral
mod gas for melee weapon+influence
boom
viral gas electric

[simple frost]

rolling guard
aegis
augur mod

[compact cypress]

fair enough

[simple frost]

as long as i don't get one shot by toxin eximus

i win

-# said the man who got ambushed by a toxin doggo in alchemy 20+ times so far

[rocky aurora]

Shield gating

[simple frost]

nice shield you got there
would be a shame if a toxin eximus spawns and nuke your entire career

[rocky aurora]

Volt 2 has no animation, so one of the best frames to shield gate

[fierce lark]

innodem is amazing

[rocky aurora]

Thats what rolling guard is for lol

Or just kill it

[simple frost]

yeah
that's the only reason why i put rolling guard on

[rocky aurora]

Volt influence is a monster

[fierce lark]

rolling guard only helps if you actually notice the eximus before it walks up to you

[simple frost]

oh
i got one shot by a toxin eximus spawned behind me
and couldn't see it
very funny, ngl
suddenly drop dead for no reason then i see something green on the screen

[rocky aurora]

Shield gating still on top

Atp lets just use revenant for everything

[simple frost]

nah
kullervo

all hail overguard king

[fierce lark]

only reason i want to move away from shieldgate nekros for farming

sometimes a venomous eximus charger just runs into you and you die

or heaven forbid a mutilist osprey with overguard

flying into you

while you're mid petrify animation lmao

[simple frost]

yeap

[hexed lodge]

a bit niche, but health conversion has helped me a lot when I am shield-gating and know there'll be lots of toxin eximus spawning
unless i intend to do lvlcap...

[gaunt minnow]

The shedu paired with zephyr is good

[simple frost]

the only time i did level cap is like
circuit

it was funny to see the entire team keep dying

[rocky aurora]

This is why I always bring a fortifier secondary with me for nekros vs infested

[hexed lodge]

fr, it becomes revive your teammates simulator lol

[simple frost]

zephyr is a funny frame
she's either extremely useless or the strongest member of the team
no in between

[rocky aurora]

If the zephyr isn't using silence, idk what to say

[hard ibex]

why silence on zephyr?

[gaunt minnow]

Why?

[simple frost]

i mean
what do you use her s1 for if not a subsume slot?

[hard ibex]

yeah but i use anything but silence in her 1

[hexed lodge]

You don't need silence on zephyr, just use the wasd keys

[simple frost]

tho it depends on taste for which skill you put on tbh

[compact cypress]

what could i replace for scope on my paris here? for times im not tryna be ads

[fierce lark]

health conversion+arcane blessing is the ez way to tank dark sector farms

[gaunt minnow]

Her 1 is pretty cool tho but i'd put something like xata or nourish on her 1 instead

[hard ibex]

maybe just some fire rate? idk up to u tbh

bane if u like

[simple frost]

more elemental damage mod?

[gaunt minnow]

Health conversion?

[hard ibex]

isnt this that weird tech that lets nidus be immortal

(more immortal than he was)

[compact cypress]

aight

[simple frost]

nidus at this point either needs a rework or allow his s3 to work on pet to be popular

his design is so cool and somehow kinda got wasted

[hard ibex]

yurp

i love nidus in theory but unfortunately he is useless outside of low level defence missions

as any decently high level enemies will cause parasitic link enemies to die instantly

and his 4 forces him to stay in one place to get maximum effectiveness of his kit

[gaunt minnow]

Or the maggota from his fourth actually do good damage and give him stacks as they kill. Or they can do whatever gets killed in his larva ability give u stacks

[simple frost]

i mean he's pretty good for solo endurance survival run since you can just stay in one place and be a god

but outside of that
meh

the fact that his best skill got a requirement so bad that it basically kill the entire frame is wild

[trim hill]

Nidus is in the same boat as Koumei, imo. Shines in long missions, but there aren't many reasons to play missions that long

[gaunt minnow]

Then octavia is in that same boat

[simple frost]

yeah
but ngl
koumei is more fun

[gaunt minnow]

Imo

[hard ibex]

at least octavia serves as a super comfy invis frame tho

[trim hill]

Octavia performs about the same 2min in as 2hrs in

[hard ibex]

i use her for any riven challenges that require stealth

[simple frost]

at least koumei doesn't require you to stay in one place with a mummy

[gaunt minnow]

Ig so

[simple frost]

octa is pretty good as an easy mode frame tho
no thought
head empty
i go invisible
enemies kill themselves

[hard ibex]

the hard mode is your pinky finger

[simple frost]

the hard mode is the music
i'm not paying that much for the music

why is it so damn expensive?

[gaunt minnow]

Steel Path SO and ESO when

[trim hill]

Yeah, Octavia is super good, just not terribly engaging. Unless you make fun songs, but that tends to put you at a detriment compared to what your sounds could be (for efficiency, that is)

[hard ibex]

the meta is muting her music and setting her thingy to just spam all the notes

im playing a shooter game not garage band

[simple frost]

the meta is to put the most brain damaging music possible and hope your teammates don't turn off the setting

[trim hill]

My most used Octavia song is Dance Macabre by Ghost

And I refuse to spam crouch, it's way too boring

[simple frost]

i think i saw some one put Cruel Angel Thesis or San's theme

[trim hill]

Ngl, I couldn't play an hour with either of those on, lol

[fierce lark]

450 armor on health orb up to 3 stacks, loses a stack every 3 hits you take but iirc can only lose 1 stack per second

[trim hill]

Good songs, but not for repeat after repeat after repeat...

[fierce lark]

or let me rephrase that better, you get 3 stacks per orb and lose up to 1 stack per second on taking damage

[gaunt minnow]

Hm

[trim hill]

I thought Health Conv had each stack drop after a short timer when being hit on your health?

[gaunt minnow]

Makes more sense, so adaptability would work well with it

[atomic talon]

anyone have any really good Coda Pathocyst builds :3

[fierce lark]

maybe it’s “upon taking damage you lose a stack after 1 second”

all i know is there’s like a second delay between stack loss

[simple frost]

-# is that another arcane persistence strat i'm seeing

[fierce lark]

that’s the “persistence on any frame” tech

[trim hill]

Mod reads "taking damage will consume a stack after 3 seconds"

[fierce lark]

if you want to run cap and hate SHIELD gating

[mighty flare]

persistence is still gating

[fierce lark]

3 seconds then not 1, away from my pc moment

[trim hill]

So you keep your stacks a good bit longer, you can only lose 1 stack every 3s. Which is good for orb-genny frames who also conveniently usually want armor

[fierce lark]

(nekros)

[trim hill]

Thrown right onto my Nekros

I even run Well of Life on my Nekros, then punch the Well target and uncast Well to kill them. Still spawns a shade that way, and don't have to worry about the insta kill timing.

Plus Pool of Life, you get tons of tasty orbs, status immunity, and life steal to top up after Despoil

[gaunt minnow]

Should put chromatic blade instead adaptaion? Thats what i had before

[simple frost]

Chromatic blade is a must

[hexed lodge]

It's either/or for adaptation and persistence, you can't keep both.

[fierce lark]

you need chromatic blade

[trim hill]

Blessing + Vitality? I don't find Excal generates enough orbs to use Blessing consistently, but that's just me

[gaunt minnow]

I have life strike on his balde

[hexed lodge]

It's the triple-umbral slots that semi-force Vitality

[mighty flare]

adaptation --> chromatic
use a diff subsume too and drop eternal war for rolling guard or whatever, war cry is not great and persistence without status cleanse/immunity is ass

[fierce lark]

persistence doesn't do anything btw unless you're pmuch going to levelcap

you're not gonna take enough damage for it to matter until like...the high hundreds, if not 1k+

[trim hill]

Life strike also doesn't generate orbs

[fierce lark]

orbs should come from synth diriga

[trim hill]

I don't use driggia

That's my b

[gaunt minnow]

Just testing to see if its worth it

[fierce lark]

you typically should be if you're meleeing, but everyone has their pref

[mighty flare]

how much armor does it put you at? you'd still need cleanse for magentic anyway

[trim hill]

I haven't slotted anything besides Dethcube in a long time

[gaunt minnow]

I dont really die like that unless a nullifier cancles my abilities 🥲

[gaunt minnow]

I gotta check

[simple frost]

My rule of thumb is to only put persistence on frames with healing
Because unlike shield, hp doesn't regen that fast

[mighty flare]

there are many methods of healing, getting healing for persistence is the most nonissue of the arcane

its like everything else that becomes an issue

[hexed lodge]

So you're going the Persistence or Adaptation route?

[simple frost]

Yeah
I'm kinda fine with the rest but I don't want to take the long way to get healing

[gaunt minnow]

Persistance probably, i just wanted to see if persistance and adaptation has some kind of interaction or if its good at all

[fierce lark]

the biggest issue with persistence is that it literally just does nothing for 99% of people who slot it

[simple frost]

Yep

It's funny tho

[compact cypress]

im so confused icl whats ur shards?

[mighty flare]

long way? healing is the easiest issue to solve 😭

[hexed lodge]

Gotcha, yea they don't synergize, Persistence's cap comes after any DR, including adaptation

[simple frost]

2 str, 2 duration
The last one is a yellow for starting energy but you can swap it to whatever you want

[gaunt minnow]

Like 1937 or somewhere around there

[trim hill]

"You slot persistence to take less damage from enemies you don't fight against. I slot persistence so I can get my rage energy faster. We are not the same."

[gaunt minnow]

Oh that sucks

[compact cypress]

ahh gotchu, purple shards for primary/melee would also work right?

[simple frost]

Yeah

[compact cypress]

alr

[gaunt minnow]

Is warcry actually bad? I feel like its decent for this build since it boosts armor and attack speed

[compact cypress]

i dont think its so popular as a helminth

[mighty flare]

thats enough for heat, but war cry isn't really great cuz atk spd is really easy stat to get and armor buffs didnt matter for most part

[gaunt minnow]

Especially with the augment. It increases by 2 second every kill up to 40 sec.

[trim hill]

I liked my Eternal War Excal when I ran it. Good fun

[hexed lodge]

If it's fun to you and works, just go for it.

[gaunt minnow]

I do find it fun

[trim hill]

Now I run anime-teleport-behind Excal (Wrathful Advance)

[gaunt minnow]

But i dont like getting one shot by bosses. Its happens, they just do way more than 550

[gaunt minnow]

On my other build, i have roar and the augment for his three and four. Along with fury and strike arcanes

[trim hill]

Samurai

[gaunt minnow]

Yes

I even use the tatsu prime as a weapon

[trim hill]

I said that out loud much goofier than I read it, sorry about that

[gaunt minnow]

I mean u arent wrong

That was the inspiration for this build

[gaunt minnow]

If they had that as a stance for two hand nikana's that woukld be SICK

[hexed lodge]

i had to, sorry

[atomic talon]

with builds that have a racist mod on, is the idea that I switch it out for every faction?

or is the one they chose to display one the build needs to make up for a weakness to the faction

[gaunt minnow]

Def switch for every faction

[hexed lodge]

personally, i like to build a loadout for each faction... but most players don't go for that.

[atomic talon]

X_X

thats really high effort for me....

[mighty flare]

no, not really, factions mods aren't needed besides orokin and grineer
you can slot orokin and forget about it

[gaunt minnow]

Then dont use banes

[vestal lintel]

Is it possible to increase the amount of mods you have on a weapon? Not capacity but actually mods

[trim hill]

No, just unlocking an exilus slot

Base mod slots will always be 8

[atomic talon]

I have to answer this is "technically"

A good riven can replace 2-3 mods depending on your build

[gaunt minnow]

I like using heat and arcane exposure over elec and influence

[trim hill]

"Replace" is a philosophical term in this way

[vestal lintel]

hm

[atomic talon]

thus my answer being "technically"

[trim hill]

Best way to think about it is to think about it a lot

[forest magnet]

Anyone have a good Titania Prime build?
Without Archon mods preferably

[atomic talon]

send me a DM with what archon mods you need and your IGN. I'll hit you up once I have them <3. I can accept syndicate mods as payment

[lethal vine]

Do hounds get progenitor element related stuff?

[fervent rapids]

no

[valid cargo]

Does anyone have a syam build?

[ember condor]

I have decided that I want to make a really funny crit build, what mod do I swap out for Blood Rush?

[trim hill]

Just finished building the Riot. Is the thing any good?

[mighty flare]

neat gimmick but cursed by poor base damage

also bad gunco scaling iirc

[ember condor]

I have made my decision. Primed Fury swapped out for Blood Rush.

Results: Promising.

[exotic yarrow]

good or na

[charred gale]

Id take off the slash and radiation

And go viral heat

[exotic yarrow]

i tried doing that but it just turned into gas

[fervent rapids]

mod placement order changes how elemental mods combine

top left to bottom right horizontally

[deep grotto]

Idk if anyone’s posted yet but since Syam’s heavy attack is multiplicative with Condition Overload, you can try building it around that

[mortal canyon]

what's the name of that simulacrum ?

[fervent rapids]

Sanctum Simulacrum, bought from Loid using Vessel Capilaries

[ember condor]

This is the build btw, featuring 4 Tauforged Violet Archon Shards.

[valid cargo]

I plan to use it exclusively with kullervo

[deep grotto]

That’ll be interesting

[drowsy herald]

Has anyone tried uriels subsumed healing ability? I have one getting subsumed and I wanna put it in umbra so I can heal him on the go

[ember condor]

I have it on the way but it doesn't look to be very promising.

Unless you really can't use a channeled ability I don't see why someone would use it over Gloom.

[drowsy herald]

What sword is that

[timid dust]

best sister weapon?

[ember condor]

Okina Prime.

With Incarnon, of course.

[drowsy herald]

Yeah melee inrcanons are confusing. My hate incarnon still is not complete because of that challenge here you do a finisher kill with melee equipped only . It just wont complete

[valid cargo]

Mostly for the heavy attack waves

[short quest]

anyone help me with these two riven choices? i can't decide 👀

[fervent rapids]

Unequip primary and secondary in Arsenal

and it has to be a Finisher with the actual melee weapon, so Mercy Kills don't count IIRC.

[drowsy herald]

I know I did that and did finishers but it won't do

[fervent rapids]

I usually run Inaros for those

[drowsy herald]

They really made a difference for that? God

[fervent rapids]

since Dessication Stuns enemies

[deep grotto]

Do you have to avoid stealth kills too?

[fervent rapids]

Mercy-kills are just one type of Finisher, and they're one of the only that are not a Melee Finisher

[fervent rapids]

Stealth Kills are Melee Finishers

[deep grotto]

Just making sure

[fervent rapids]

as are Stun Finishers and Ground Finishers

[deep grotto]

Wouldn’t be surprised if they were randomly different

[drowsy herald]

My enemies either die as iam doing the finisher, or don't die even after the finisher

In normal startchart they just die and in steelpath it's hard to get the amount of health right for them to die with the finisher.

[ember condor]

Go normal starchart and equip a stealth frame then just keep stealth finishing everyone until it's done.

[fervent rapids]

That's why I use Inaros since Dessication does very low DoT

[drowsy herald]

I don't have inaros I have valkyr and umbra and others

I still have to finish the final part of inaros quest

Although iam thinking of getting the prime later as he's supposedly good with persistence

[ember condor]

Just go for stealth finishers.

[fervent rapids]

Umbra can work with Radial Blind

[rigid dirge]

Thoughts?