builds-discussion

[abstract bison]

ok so you either stack a lot of raw base dmg and stick with yellow crit or stack crit chance for the crit tier multipliers

i have to say though that acuity builds feel terrible when fighting certain enemies

[dim viper]

kinda. u need 4 puncture stacks to fully strip armor so u can’t rlly mod for much elements. and red crit is similar to the other builds

[dim viper]

ye im not a fan of acuity i tried on my dual toxy and it was ehh

do see that it will work on certain bosses with weak points and stuff but that’s pretty much it.

[abstract bison]

acuity builds are pretty strong when fighting hunhullus

it's very nice

i get why they used the daikyu on the promo material now lol

[dim viper]

ye that’s the only guy i use them on lol. builds overkill on everyone else anyways as a mirage main

[hard dove]

Chakkur acuity tho

[fathom sky]

Acuity Latron should be labelled as harmful content to a fellow player

[dim viper]

ye fair

beg some1 make a acuity latron build for april fools

[sharp silo]

can my companion proc growing power?

[vagrant lagoon]

Yo hows this build

[dim viper]

hmm never thought of this

[dim viper]

yes it does seem like it does

[dim viper]

i go negative efficiency so my 2 gives more shields

but i haven’t taken saryn lvl cap anyways so not an expert tbh

[sharp silo]

how do i do it?

[vagrant lagoon]

how would i regen my energy then?

[hard dove]

Energize

And equilibrium

[dim viper]

u alrdy got equi and energize. if u struggle w energy u ain’t killing fast enough for this build.

[vagrant lagoon]

I might replace Aegis over Energize

[dim viper]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1299523489
check this out. i don’t rlly build for growing power

[dim viper]

i think u gotta run and figure out if u face energy issues. saryn wp platform build aint energy heavy in the first place

y not blind rage instead of equilibrium?

[vagrant lagoon]

nah this is for general use this is my weapon platform build

[dim viper]

and keep energize.
and then keep equi and drop energize for aegis.
see which works

[hard dove]

Drop blind rage for transient tho

I mean the other way

I need to sleep

[dim viper]

honestly u will hv to take these for a spin in cascade and see how it works out and where u lacking

i personally think u need more strength. and u are going overboard on the energy part.

[lapis matrix]

Does anyone have a Good Twin Grakatas Build? Preferably without a Riven

[abstract bison]

1 Forma Hildryn Prime build

[old marsh]

[eager charm]

Why ice spring over mobilize? Matching polarity? I never saw the point of those mods

Also how does prec int work with expertise and her 4?

[abstract bison]

yep matching polarity because i'm lazy

[near vortex]

Better stats

[abstract bison]

the shield increases when you hover over the 4th ability in the menu but other than that idk

[eager charm]

Luh mao

[abstract bison]

like i said i'm lazy

[eager charm]

Pretty epic budget hildryn tho I'm saving this

[abstract bison]

if it works it works

[viscid kiln]

Hello, hello, please, what's the best amp for Zariman stuff?
I have build 777 but maybe I'm using it incorrectly, because I can't fricking hit anything.

[eager charm]

Why sprint boost over corroproj?

[eager charm]

7 prism has low range, try 147, 547, etc

[marsh marsh]

It in fact doesn't work. Or at least that's what I saw when I tried it.

[abstract bison]

i just have the funny feeling that it affects the flight speed part and not the dash

but use corroproj if ya want ig

[eager charm]

I am like 98% certain as a 35% hildryn playtime main that sprint speed does nothing for her 4

[marsh marsh]

747 still king.

[old marsh]

It does but it’s bugged so u need to go in a mission to trigger it

[eager charm]

Please do and reupload the pics so I can save? On phone out at work rn

[abstract bison]

guess i'll swap back to corroproj then

[marsh marsh]

Ooo whaaa

Shield Maiden 2000 incoming! Lmao

[tranquil plover]

this a good riven?

[foggy patrol]

We got a ironman over here

[gleaming oasis]

I'm looking to mod my Acceltra Prime what are the main apects to invest into?

[scenic echo]

It’s as good as you’re gonna get

Without a minus or a god roll

[fathom sky]

Issue is it's Alternox

[scenic echo]

so depends how ur building it, but for example i build mine as a crit fisher

[gleaming oasis]

I assume its meant to be a high damage dealer with good base crit chace and damage

[scenic echo]

funny enough you can actually build it with primary acuity

[fathom sky]

It's damage per hit is really not that high at all

[tranquil plover]

thought alternox was good now

[fathom sky]

Never was, still isn't

[tranquil plover]

yeesh, this is kinda shit cause of the infested isnt it

[fathom sky]

-Infested is one of the best negs you can get because Infested is paper

[vague rock]

Do you guys think nyx second and breach surge would work well together

They both spread and do radiation and one increase dmg

[gleaming oasis]

So I assume the first step is the damage correct?

[fathom sky]

You just slot everything in there, being mindful of the AoE disclaimer. Most weapons build the exact same as each other because most weapons want stuff like crit stats and EVERY weapon wants Multishot and Damage.

[gleaming oasis]

and this follows through all parts of the game? or is there more to it for steel path

[fathom sky]

All

[vague rock]

Can you show the build

[tranquil plover]

oh shit this is a good one then

[vague rock]

Sorry for the late response didnt see it

[tranquil plover]

good or nah

[vague rock]

How much status chance does the weapon have

[zealous rapids]

bramma has too low dispo to get useful riven

[vestal lintel]

Is it worth trying to get Heavy Calibur to put on the Nataruk?

[zealous rapids]

no, imo that mod is a trap, especially on nataruk

[vague rock]

Agreed

[zealous rapids]

you should never use heavy caliber unless you absolutely sure that is what you want

[vestal lintel]

Hm ok thought so

[vague rock]

I almost never use it

I did make a meme build with it to make a high base dmg 1

[zealous rapids]

I use it for some aoe builds to get more spread from multishot

like with ogris and shedu

[vague rock]

Nice

[zealous rapids]

it's basically for builds where you actually want that negative accuracy, damage is just a bonus

[vague rock]

You know what I found out that arcane that gives you overgaurd is actually really good

[zealous rapids]

roll to guard one?

[near vortex]

Which one?

Circumvent?

Circumvent is cracked

[vague rock]

With nyx second and that you can easily get 35k or 40k overgaurd

[zealous rapids]

does uriel flight count as rolling?

[near vortex]

Maybe? It gets boosted by Amalgam Barrel Diffusion

[vague rock]

This

[near vortex]

Oh yeah this one's really crazy too

Thrax killing and good solution to Eximus units

[vague rock]

My nyx relys on her second and that for survival

[zealous rapids]

I put it on almost every secondary, too bad it's capped at 15k

[alpine quiver]

its great with toxocyst

[vague rock]

True but with nyx or Dante works like a charm

[alpine quiver]

can we talk about the motes rq

[near vortex]

It's fantastic with Limbo since you aren't running Cascadia Flare or any of the base damage arcanes

[zealous rapids]

I actually make separate builds without that arcane for dante or other not-dying frames

[vague rock]

I want to see if its good with hildrin because if it does you might be able to use the overgaurd to protect you from other status

[zealous rapids]

if you mean to put it on balefare, it works, but idk if it works with alt fire 4 augment

[vague rock]

Because doesn't her weapon count as a secondary

[zealous rapids]

it also works wonders on mesa, for survivability

[vestal lintel]

While this chat is active. If am farming endo with deimos bounties should i only do up to stage 1 of the bounty or should i do all of them?

[zealous rapids]

do all, there is endo chance on each

[vestal lintel]

hm ok

[vague rock]

It would work great with yariel

[zealous rapids]

and there is other good rewards too, like aya, or useful mods

[mellow jewel]

The old acolyte mods especially

[vague rock]

Since she is all secondary

[zealous rapids]

I was about peasemakers but ok

[gleaming oasis]

so this would be a standard build then

[zealous rapids]

for what?

[alpine quiver]

sp

[zealous rapids]

I mean what weapon

[gleaming oasis]

acceltra prime

[vague rock]

I got a good riven for gauss weapon

It gives crit chance, crit dmg, toxin, but gives minus projectile speed

[zealous rapids]

1st, you don't want viral weight to be bigger than heat, because heat is the damage dealer here, viral is capped at 10 procs

so, you should at least use 90 heat mod, not 60/60

then, serration and merciless do same thing: increase base damage

you can remove one for something that will give multiplicative damage

[fossil stirrup]

Does any1 have a good Epitaph build? Just got my prime one done 😄

[zealous rapids]

for example, you can try crux arcane for a bit of extra ammo economy

[zealous rapids]

mine is just plain viral (or corrosive) heat with crit focus

[vague rock]

I kinda wish they buff the braton ammo in the incaron form because it only has 200 verus the burston which is 600

[fossil stirrup]

Thank you Tango ❤️

[vague rock]

And I hope the certa gets a coda

[zealous rapids]

epitaph aoe mode has blast and forced cold, so it's a very good primer, you can also add radiation and magnetic with special mods

I don't rememebr if charged shot has forced cold too, but it hits really hard after a few priming shots with gunco

[vestal lintel]

What status mods should i put on the nataruk? Am using zephyr with it. Am also mr7 and dont have steel path unlocked yet

[scenic echo]

funny enoguh also have mine on zephyr

i put full cold on mine, but you could easily pop viral and heat onto it

[zealous rapids]

nataruk should be able to 1-2 shot mobs so status don't matter much, maybe viral so you can double hp damage if lucky

[vestal lintel]

I currently get red crits around 90% of the time when mid air and usually do around 30k dmg

[gleaming oasis]

so this should look better now. arcanes can come later I still need to go on a mass grind

[old marsh]

u sure u wanna use crux on acceltra?

[zealous rapids]

looks good, but you prob want some ammo mod in exilus slot, for example vigilante supplies

[scenic echo]

deadhead would prob be better for acceltra

[gleaming oasis]

Arcanes come later.

[scenic echo]

heres my build for reference - keep in mind u can replace acceltra riven with galvanized chamber

[gleaming oasis]

I'm probab;y gonna forma the top left and right slots to make room for the exiles slot

[scenic echo]

not chamber, scope i mean

[zealous rapids]

you can't do that for this build

and you already have scope, not galv though

[scenic echo]

OOF YOU'RE RIGHT

[scenic echo]

updated build - ignore previous one - that's my reccomendation if no riven

[zealous rapids]

drum is better than supplies for exilus?

I have not used this weapon a lot

[scenic echo]

in my experience ive found i run out of ammo and have to run around w/o shooting things if i use supplies

you only get 96 ammo

and it goes QUICK - so treat acceltra more like a rocket launcher and a rifle had a baby

ergo, i always go to my secondary when I run out of ammo, rinse and repeat

[zealous rapids]

and then secondary is akarius?

[scenic echo]

actually its athodai lmao

cause I use acceltra on Nova - due to the blast proccing

[zealous rapids]

tbh, i got disappointed with athodai, I even farmed it properly when i saw augment, but it was pure disappointment

no matter what I do, it's just a worse dual tox

even knell didn't give me such emotion, maybe because i didn't expect much from it

I wish its trait could refresh like with knell or dual tox, then it would be at least useful

[wicked scaffold]

is there a blatantly better way to play revenant between danse macabre nuking or reave ohkoing? im not sure what exactly to aim for with revenant play

[scenic echo]

ill post my build after this mission - if that could help

[zealous rapids]

good frame to try various weapon builds, if you find something that performs good without buffs, it will be op with some roar or nourish

[old marsh]

ye. subsume bright bonnet and enjoy dancing.

[zealous rapids]

the whole interest was in it's unique feature, but since it don't work how I expected after playing knell or dual tox I just dropped using it

at this point epitaph is my best friend since it has no annoying reload

[latent adder]

U can do both

U can reave during danse and have your pet prime for reave oneshots

Roar over 1

[gaunt sapphire]

which hydroid ability do i replace for nourish

im using viral tempest and tidal impunity build

[kind marten]

Is it worth dropping Aptitude for Hammer Shot, or just keep as is? Riven is crit chance, multishot and - ammo max.

[rocky aurora]

I'd recommend testing that in the Simulacrum

[abstract bison]

this might be an okay 'i hate conditionals' build for this stupid gun, you have a chance to place 10 stacks of either viral, heat, and magnetic on a target and they just die

you just point and shoot

swing your melee to put bullets back into the gun and then shoot again, never have to reload

the recoil pattern on this weapon doesn't go upwards like most other guns, it does this circular spray pattern that circles around the main reticle so no need for recoil mods

[astral tinsel]

do you have another source of base damage

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-gambling-gamblecore-slots-addiction-gif-13719756177810728433

[kind marten]

No, someone did mention that, slipped my mind a bit.

[astral tinsel]

in that case no way, it'd be a massive dps loss

[keen solstice]

For glavies are u supposed to use the punch thru glavie mods or the bounce glavie mods

[kind marten]

Yeah, it'd butcher it.

[astral tinsel]

you either use volatile quick return for the explosion AoE increase or volatile rebound for a throw-and-forget bounce build

power throw is mainly used for the unique damage multiplier on chained throws

[keen solstice]

Thank u!!

[astral tinsel]

also, don't forget to manually detonate, even when using quick return

the impact explosion is pretty weak

[trim hill]

Ngl, that sounds horrible

[forest magnet]

Does anyone have a general use Ocucor build?

[abstract bison]

it blooms outwards in a circle but the grouping is still tight on medium ranges, a spray and pray gun where the recoil doesn't go upwards

adding recoil mods makes the grouping very tight though instead of just compensating for the barrel going upwards like on other weapons in this game

[trim hill]

What about accuracy mods? Does this tighten the radial grouping better or worse than recoil mods?

I think it's called Targeting Subsystem for pistols?

[abstract bison]

oh i haven't tried accuracy mods but i did try putting magnum force with the -55% accuracy debuff on it and the bloom was way way worse lmao

[jovial lion]

caliban with the augment and breach surge, just an idea that came to mind but i need opinions to know if its actually a good idea or not xd

[abstract bison]

ohhh it might be accuracy instead of recoil... maybe the sagek doesn't have recoil at all lol

[trim hill]

Yeah, Magnum Force is really bad on most pistols because of that, lol. Subsystem is only +30%, but it's on hit, so it should work really easily

Might be worth considering on the exilus if that spread pattern spirals like that. Sounds unique, but I personally wouldn't want to rotate my whole camera to fight it, lol

[abstract bison]

might make an acuity build worthwhile on the sagek if we make it pinpoint accurate

[trim hill]

What's the stat screen label its base accuracy at? Medium, high?

[abstract bison]

by default it's on high

putting magnum force placed it somewhere at low

[trim hill]

With +30%, it should be pretty tight then. Definitely worth a shot

[abstract bison]

oh crap the passive can give 10 stacks of modded status all at once right

[trim hill]

Ngl, I have no idea lol

[abstract bison]

oh no not another acuity blast build

please no

[mighty flare]

itll work

[mighty flare]

what?

it just increases final status

6% chance of next shot's status chance increasing from 1% to 500%

[abstract bison]

ah right it's 6% chance to proc 500% status chance on crit

with just one heat mod one bullet can put 10 stacks of heat on a target

[hollow scarab]

does anyone have a good level cap build for the dread and the despair i can steal?

[mighty flare]

no?

[hollow scarab]

cuz these are what i got so far

[fathom sky]

"Set status chance ignores all modifiers"
So it's just 5 if it procs for one bullet

[jovial lion]

i mean working it will i was wondering more as if it would actually be useful, i was thinking as that using said augment usually means adding a good anmount of strength, the breach surge particles would deal also a hell ton of damage after they hit the enemies grabbed by the spin

[abstract bison]

so if we mod for more elements, each bullet has the potential to proc 5 stacks on a specific element? from my testing a viral heat build on this is super strong

because it can put 10 stacks of viral from just two random bullet lol and then add heat inherit on top of that

magnetic might is also there to boost the overall dmg bc the status is inconsistent the weapon likes more raw dmg boosted by crit

i also tried an encumber build with aptitude for the base dmg and yeah the TTK is either super fast or super slow depending on your luck lmao

the weapon passive is a serious wildcard on the sagek

[coral crest]

Gambling weapon, isn't that lovely

[jovial lion]

so uh any suggestions to update this thing

it still does the job tho shreds really well

but wanna see if it could get some upgrades

like yk that hunter munitions that aint that useful anymore ngl

[astral tinsel]

1. do you have the incarnon
2. what's the riven

[jovial lion]

ye i have incarnon

[astral tinsel]

oh i see it now nvm

[jovial lion]

now for the riven i actually forgot the stats and cant check rn xd

[fierce lark]

https://tenor.com/view/aria-of-sorrow-castlevania-soma-cruz-spear-spear-throw-gif-27673443

[jovial lion]

i remember it had uh cd and ms tho

dont know the exact numbers

[mighty flare]

breach surge is ok on caliban yea 👍
not much else to say

[jovial lion]

all good dw jsjss

[astral tinsel]

I honestly don't remember what I put on my Soma

but you could either go incarnoff with primary crux - replace hammer shot with vital sense and HM with serration

or keep the deadhead and just slot vital sense over HM

[jovial lion]

kk gonna test these changes tomorrow

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980793801549430804/1051979809040896130/1641348159927.gif

thx for the suggestions btw, it really needed a tweak as this was literally my very first build in the game

(i mean like designed 100% by me btw)

[astral tinsel]

looks like you made a perfectly fine HM build

[royal venture]

someone have an wisp build, pls?

[jovial lion]

yeah i was running this thing today when cracking relics with a friend and it still slaps even as how it is rn xd

the soma is just like that

[hearty minnow]

does anyone have a good build that i can put on my saryn i don't really know how to play the game yet but am at steal path and can't do s--- and can't even touch archon hunt please help 🙂

[jovial lion]

maybe even critical delay for further cc, ill have to test it to see if the firerate is too harmed or not that bad of a change

[astral tinsel]

hata-satya already puts you at 600%

so crit delay is only a 33% increase

[jovial lion]

isnt vital sense even lower tho

like it also adds cc if memory serves

nvm ignore me

its cd

[abstract bison]

put more cd like hammer shot

or maybe galv aptitude since it's a single target weapon

slash crit machinegun go brr

[jovial lion]

yeah no i put the wrong mod it was uh

the cd one

vital sense

instead of critical delay

[stable trout]

im looking for a really op torid build with a riven, im wondering if i should just add a riven to this build or find a better build that has a riven, not sure what stats i should look for on the riven and with what i can replace it with, my budget for a riven is 2k ish if anyone has a really good riven build let me know please

[karmic terrace]

what should my last two mods be?

2h nikana heavy has forced slash and lift, so afflictions goes kinda stupid on it, but I'm trying to figure out what would maximize slash proc damage here

[pure reef]

Wiki says that Decoy's damage is effected by Summoners Wrath, but I'm guessing that's only for regular decoy and not enemies with Damage Decoy ?

[astral tinsel]

galv aptitude ignores the evo damage bonus

so it's only 50% effective in normal mode

[abstract bison]

what does the incarnon mode do again?

[astral tinsel]

auto shotgun

8 multishot for a total of 10x base damage, little under half the fire rate, 1/3 base crit chance, higher base crit damage

[abstract bison]

galv aptitude doesn't scale with the + base damage evolutions?

[astral tinsel]

yup

bc of spaghetti code

[abstract bison]

oh it has Fatal Affliction on the last one which has the same effect of galv aptitude

+40% Damage per Status affecting target.

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Soma_Incarnon_Genesis

[astral tinsel]

which is actually +20% per status (+24% in incarnon mode)

[abstract bison]

Increase Critical Damage Multiplier by +0.6x seems weak, i would rather put a mod like hammer shot to increase the cd

[vocal vector]

tonkor, zarr or ogris for general use?

[astral tinsel]

hey, it increases base CD

[abstract bison]

yeah

[astral tinsel]

but honestly, fresh havoc might be the best one

+50% / 40% base damage

[abstract bison]

but fatal affliction is 20% per status like u said and this gun only has one less ips

[astral tinsel]

I like ogris with napalm

[abstract bison]

so viral heat slash?

[astral tinsel]

20% additive to serration / arcanes / whatever

[vocal vector]

im more drawn to tonkor/zarr tbh

[abstract bison]

i would use it together with serration to give it a nice feel for initial ttk

[astral tinsel]

zarr is also nice; bramma is just a worse zarr imo and from looking at its stats I do not feel in any way inclined to try tonkor

[abstract bison]

oh wait it has full ips lol

x8.4 cd with vital sense and hammer shot and then x10.1 with zeroed in evo

hmm

deadhead already handles the base dmg

so uhh fatal affliction?

[hard dove]

If you're gonna do viral heat at least use the 60/60 for viral

[abstract bison]

i can't because i can't be bothered to change the polarities on this years old soma lol

if the gun fires really really fast maybe it'll proc the statuses haha

[astral tinsel]

eh, it doesn't matter all that much

you're never going to get much heat dps from 10% base SC anyway

[vocal vector]

you cant make viral heat with a toxin progenitor on the zarr?

[astral tinsel]

not without using tox and cold mods, no

innate elements come last in the combination order

[vocal vector]

does circuit give a complete frame or only blueprint and parts to craft it?

[frosty fjord]

blueprints

[vocal vector]

so its still a 3 day craft after?

[frosty fjord]

need to craft yourself after yes

[vocal vector]

ahh, I dont have any frames to do heat progenitor 🙃

hows corrosive on the zarr/tonkor?

[frosty fjord]

you can swap progen with a vice anyways when you get it lvl 40

[vocal vector]

ill check if I need that many forma

[frosty fjord]

or well the element not progen straight up

i mean its still MR up to 40 regardless

[vocal vector]

viral heat should be fine on the zarr, right?

[astral tinsel]

it is

[unkempt rivet]

This a decent nekros build? Planning on putting streamline on after leveling

[somber pumice]

Does anyone have a good survivability build for fighting the Apex Tank? I have a decent-ish Nyx shield-gating one, but it's not quite good enough. I need to progress that evolutions of that chest piece 😢

[jovial lion]

i would drop energize and flow to replace with equilibrium ngl

[hard dove]

Don't need streamline just equilibrium is enough

And overextended

[jovial lion]

also the shield of shadows augment will help u a lot with survivality, would say it can even be better than adaptation

[unkempt rivet]

So replace flow with equilibrium and grab the shadow Aug?

[jovial lion]

yuh

if u have too much energy drain also equip the despoil augment so it drains health instead

[hard dove]

With equilibrium on you have good enough energy economy without despoil

[unkempt rivet]

Dunno about overextended tho
That’ll knock my str down to 80%

[jovial lion]

for replacing energize i guess blessing can be nice to increase ur health and dont die quick if by any reason they bypass yr shield

[hard dove]

Even with blind rage

[hard dove]

Replace umbeal intensify with either transient or blind eahe

[jovial lion]

blind rage is 99% strength, overextended is -60% strength, u can level it up back pretty easy with that

[hard dove]

No molt augmented btw?

[unkempt rivet]

But then my efficiency knocks down to 50%.

[jovial lion]

despoil drops health orbs all over the place so equi will refil u

[hard dove]

Desecrate

[vocal vector]

isnt viral slash still better? damage calculations wise it seems better

[frosty fjord]

I used this (with primed flow at the empty slot, then leveled it later and it went over capacity lol), arcanes aegis and energize
assimilate cheesing basically the entire beginning bit before the tank and phase 2, all the survivability mods there are basically just to live phase 1

[hard dove]

Desecrate drop so many orbs that with equilibrium you refill soo much

[unkempt rivet]

Y’know what?
Fair
But uh…
Where do I get more molt augs? Zariman right?

[hard dove]

Yes

[jovial lion]

wasnt desecrate the inaros ability and despoil the nekros one

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-wtf-wtf-gif-wtf-meme-gif-14632630448558724400

[hard dove]

Despoil is the augment for nekros desecrate

[jovial lion]

a

[frosty fjord]

but this was a long while back and I basically trial & error’d this myself entirely so i’m sure someone has probably a better way to build her for that lol

[jovial lion]

man im sure forgetful lately

[somber pumice]

oh this was mine until now

for Nyx

My Janus Vor build wouldn't really work on Nyx, because it was curated to Chroma's strengths

[unkempt rivet]

I am NOT spending months on end grinding the holdfasts to max rank lmao

[jovial lion]

they drop from the thrax too btw

[somber pumice]

^

[jovial lion]

welñ zariman thrax

[somber pumice]

if you have SP unlocked, you can do Void Cascade relic runs

[jovial lion]

not lua thrax

[somber pumice]

the thrax have a chance to drop arcanes

or you can get Vosfor from your syndicate and gamble Holdfast arcanes with Loid

[jovial lion]

gamba

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365120876441239698/1456098702359007324/attachment.gif

[unkempt rivet]

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?

[jovial lion]

do u have sanctum anatomica

[unkempt rivet]

Ohhh I see now

[somber pumice]

but yeah, do you have the sanctum?

[unkempt rivet]

I never talk to loud lmao

Loid*

[somber pumice]

well now you could

he lets you redeem vosfor for 3 random arcanes or your choice

if you don't want to rank up Holdfast or grind out Void Cascade, this is your best bet

[jovial lion]

keep an eye to ur credits tho

[somber pumice]

it's 200 Vosfor and 50K credits per roll, yes

[jovial lion]

i threw down the drain about 3m when gambling for arcane reaper

the arcane is just r1 rn btw xd

[somber pumice]

when getting Vosfor from your syndicate, it basically give you 200, enough for a roll

[unkempt rivet]

Well now I gotta figure out a place for-
Well…guess I can use that empty slot for shield of shadows

[somber pumice]

I wasted a lot of credits rolling the 99 pack because I wanted the ETA arcanes 😆

the rest I had LOOOOONG maxed out

[hard dove]

How much intention did you get

I spend like 1k vosfor and each roll have intention in it

2 seperate roll have 3 intention in them

[somber pumice]

I have all of the arcanes in the game except like... one Zaw one from Plague Star

[unkempt rivet]

Ok so SoS is going in that blank slot.

Would ensnare be good to put on nekros tho?

[hard dove]

It's decent

[vapid raptor]

Ohhh hiii

[fathom gyro]

I put gloom on my Nekros, works well.

[quiet laurel]

I need to actively farm credits to do vosfor gambling for plat lmao

drained 20m credits in an instant

but it do be fun

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gambling-gambler-gif-572068894331490223

[quiet laurel]

that and getting gud at profit taker

and secura lecta farming is so satisfying

[crimson osprey]

Hey, anyone have a decent wolf sledge build? id like a standard melee one where i can also throw- maybe via tennokai triggers rather than building for it?

[mild bronze]

Does fireball frenzy give damage to just abilities or is it also weapons?

[unkempt rivet]

@hard dove hey can I dm ya real fast? Wanna discuss nekros again

[stable trout]

which build is better?

[green wren]

What is 'Overguard Threshhold'? Is that the same thing as overshields?

[hard dove]

Sure

[jovial lion]

what does that arcane do

idk their names in english xd

[chrome spade]

2nd one but i would replace serration with a bane

[hard dove]

i dont remember either i think its an operator arcane

[jovial lion]

ye found it

i have a r2

prob got like 4 more after that time since i remember i used to have like 2

[stable trout]

alright, and do you know what stats im looking for on the riven? i have the same build as him except the riven and im thinking to go damage, critical chance and critical damage

[chrome spade]

dont stack damage it gives diminishing returns since the incarnon doesnt have multiplactive gun co, most important stats are mutlishot cc cd

[somber pumice]

I did it

My nyx just needed a friend I duo-ed it

[stable trout]

stupid question but would vile acceleration be any good instead of primed bane of orokin

[chrome spade]

i honestly just keep a bane of grinner and dont swap since they’re the hardest enemy and fire rate is easily outsourced

[jovial lion]

now do it solo for the glyph

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-wtf-wtf-gif-wtf-meme-gif-14632630448558724400

[chrome spade]

my torid is built for cc and cd w aptitude for trash and acolyte since the torid base has multiplicative gunco

[stable trout]

i see, ty

[somber pumice]

Noooooo, you can't make me

[celest thicket]

Why the heat version of elemental ward is the only one that does not get status change with strenght ?

Thats absolutely baffling

[bleak bolt]

So hema since last month has been basically entirely crit builds right?

So im kinda new to making builds, which woiuld be better, adding to the base damage but removing stats, or just keeping the multishot?
Also would the fire rate be better than multishot cause its faster to get to an empty mag?

[cursive wedge]

Can anyone show me a good okina prime build?

[celest thicket]

Multishot is generally better, basically firerate without the wasted resources

And less recoil if applicable

Both is even better tho

[fathom sky]

-status chance on a pretty status heavy gun is super bad.

[vocal vector]

tonkor or zarr for a viral slash build?

also, why are lots of people using vigilante supplies instead of ammo mutation? just for that 5% red crit chance?

[scenic echo]

So for ppl who had been following the discussions that had been had on the alternox - I have come up with something crazy that makes teh weapon usable

PRIMING

(keep in mind this build is in the theory stage, max mods and arcanes would be added when done)

[worn plume]

What does debilitate do? (Learning more abt arcanes)

[scenic echo]

on 10 stacks of a status, it gives them status of the 2 elements that make it up

basically, this build is TASTE THE RAINBOW

[worn plume]

That explains the 180 sc

Utilizing his exalted blade more, but I can’t seem to really get reds (I can hit yellow and orange indicators with at least 3m dmg) is the build viable?

[scenic echo]

this is mine for refernce and I do a full blade focus

[worn plume]

Oh okay

Might have to sell my soul for corrupted mods too for my Paris prime

I can hit reds with an exclamation point but it’s a PROCESS

[jovial lion]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27084790

[somber pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/im-dead-gif-18083068510512783634

[hallow yew]

I'm seeing a lot of Uriel builds that use both Equilibrium and Primed Flow, and I just want to ask if it's worth it, forma-wise? I feel it's overkill, but considering Uriel's Energy issues I do get the sentiment.

I'm thinking of adding Fleeting Expertise instead and compensating the ability strength with Molt Augmented and Archon Intensify. Nothing's in the negatives, so energy becomes a slight non-issue. I'm using Steel Charge because I want my Uriel to be melee oriented to take advantage of his first skill. As for the archon shards, I have 2x Cast, 2x Ability Strength, and 1x Ability Duration mostly to offset the negatives of the corrupted mods and compensate for the casting times. If this can be improved or change, I'm open to suggestions.

[jovial lion]

https://tenor.com/view/smooth-brain-kitty-boykisser-gif-8234569603800668383

[hoary scarab]

Are you having issues with energy?

[hallow yew]

If this is re my build, Equilibrium and the orb drop rate of the 2nd skill can cover it so far. But the high energy cost with Blind Rage makes casting 4th skill bit of a hassle sometimes.

[mighty flare]

fleeting on uriel is a poor trade for flow because duration is important for uriel

[hoary scarab]

Yea it’s worth it if your getting a lot of health drops

If you already know your doing a lot of damage then it wouldn’t hurt to have a lot more energy

[gleaming oasis]

So I have Khora Prime, Pilferimng Strangledome, and its potatoed. How do I farm frame?

[somber pumice]

I mean, this is my uriel without forma, still performs well

[placid geode]

Hell ye, im still trying to do Vor XD

[stable trout]

if i replace vile acceleration with galvanized aptitude and arcane to primary blight will that be better?

[dense olive]

How do we build Titania today? Do we still use her as a thermal sunder speedrunner or do we go with her exalteds since they were buffed?

[velvet pulsar]

Exalted

[undone dust]

blight wont do anything since you dont have tox

so unless you're on saryn blight just wont work

and unlike frostbite, it doesnt build from external sources

also galv apt doesnt apply to the chain beams iirc so just keep the fire rate

[undone dust]

exalted for cap and general play and sunder still for low level fissure speed runs

[stable trout]

yeah makes sense i just tested it seems worse ty

[spring estuary]

Anything better can be done for this build?

this is for my Uriel

[ocean pike]

Can someone tell me a place to farm mods for Sevagoth Prime?

[misty trout]

Would it be stupid to replace Frosts first ability with Volts first ability? or would it be secretly genius somehow

allso is this frost build good or bad for frost? its been doing well but i might have a mod that may be considered the Stupid baby idiot disease option

and a simple swap could make it like 90x better or something

[zealous rapids]

idk what shock absorbers do, probably something useless

you really should try to farm corrupted mods, blind rage, transient fortitude, overextended, will make more interesting variations in building

also, you should prorably get frost augment mod from syndicates, augment for his 4th ability to get overguard

as for subsume, I find using lavos ability on frost to be an interesting experiance

subsuming over 1 or 2 is up to you

[velvet pulsar]

Cheaper adaptation

[coral crest]

About just as effective on average

[velvet pulsar]

Affects slash DoT too

[sinful hatch]

What am i looking for in a Ripkas riven thats im wanting to use for nekros to gore them.

[versed harbor]

nekros shouldnt use ripkas as an actual weapon, you just slot the amalgam mod and use your other weapons to kill

if you want to invest in a riven try for CD, AS, Range with a harmless negative

elec and crit chance are probably usable too

[sinful hatch]

True, but ripkas is fun lol

[sinful hatch]

thankyou 🙂 ill try a few cheap rolls to see what i get

Better then nothing i guess

[unreal quest]

Is archon intensity usable for Uriel now?

[astral tinsel]

eh

heat does a larger portion of hit damage, scales with heat mods and strips armor

[undone dust]

also it makes them do a funky dance

[spice hare]

Hey, I'm a total noob, under 10 hour play time. I'm currently doing cambion drift missions, and I deal barely any damage.

I'm playing an under levelled gauss. These are basically all my mods lol. How can I increase my dmg? Trying to learn wf but it's hard tbh

thank you

[spiral chasm]

You aren't ready for there yet

Gear up through other missions

[spice hare]

Ahh I see ok

But how do I actually raise my damage? I'm so used to normal RPG's where weapons have stats, upgrade weapon - better dmg

Here's it's a bit trickier, like, +15 frost damage for example, I'm not sure if that actually buffs my weapon 😂

[astral tinsel]

That's +15% dps before resistances

[spice hare]

Hmm alright 🙂 It's a bit hard to understand how to raise damage now that I barely have any mods that make sense for me, just shield stuff etc

I have that Point Blank mod though, but that's how far I'm understanding things lol

[zealous rapids]

open world missions are generally more difficult than normal missions

[rugged patrol]

is my gauss build good? im only mr7 so i dont have any good mods for him. i'll be happy if someone gives me advice

[zealous rapids]

it's good as long as you can keep your redline up

[astral tinsel]

modding frames is tough early on

but modding weapons boils down to

1. Stack multiple independent multipliers - base damage, elemental damage, fire rate, crit chance and damage
2. Use fewer, higher ranked mods (if you can ofc)
   3 When in doubt, use viral damage

also, impact/puncture/slash mods suck 99% of the time, don't invest in them

[zealous rapids]

when viral don't work like in cambion drift, use corrosive or gas

you can type combined element name like viral into search to see mods that combine into that element

[astral tinsel]

good point, but a beginner will run into more issues there than just the viral immunity

[zealous rapids]

I still remember the pain of necramech farming, when it was required for new war

[spice hare]

That helps a lot, thanks guys!

I usually suck at build crafting in games, so this has been hard lol.

[zealous rapids]

here you just try to make good stats of weapon better

there is a trap though, don't use physical damage mods (IPS = impact puncture slash) becuse their actual effect is a lot smaller than the numbers shown in stats

[spice hare]

Will do 🙂 Any recommendations early on for the strun shotgun im using?

[zealous rapids]

I didn't use much shotguns in early game, I was just playing stealth killer with paris

[astral tinsel]

in case you're using the mk-1, get the full version

[zealous rapids]

people recommend hek as good early game shotgun

I also got to void fast to build gammacor, it was my favourite secondary (later changed to synoid version)

[astral tinsel]

I didn't like it when I tried it, but that could've been due to not having shotgun mods ranked up

[viscid bane]

Is gunCO multiplicative with Ivara's bow?

[astral tinsel]

unlikely

[lavish orbit]

Just to explain how (I love the theorycraft around that), physical mod will calculate like :

• Base physical damage (IPS) + (IPS)*mod
  So Sawtooth Clip will add 90% of the slash stat on the weapon
  WHILE
  Elemental mods calculate like :
• Total base damage of the weapon*mod
  So Infected Clip will add 90% of the total damage of the weapon
  correct me if I'm wrong

[astral tinsel]

yup, that's how it works

IPS mods have slightly higher bonuses to compensate

[spice hare]

I have the full! 🙂

[astral tinsel]

but even on weapons that are purely one physical type, you'll want elemental damage because elemental status effects tend to be better

[astral tinsel]

good

also, I'd recommend trying out different weapon types before you go hard on modding shotguns

because the resource used for ugrading mods (endo) is not exactly plentiful early on

and shotguns use separate mods from all other primaries

[timber radish]

Hello , please Which one is better for eidolon hunt the vectis p or rubico p ?
( I have both a riven on them )And what stat should I aim for them ???

[icy seal]

I can't decide... Do Gauss need a lot of duration or better to make it balanced (no more than 200%)? Because battery charges longer, but burst of ult scales amazing with duration... So complicated)

[zealous rapids]

I go with a lot of duration, since gauss redline buff scale with duration, not strength

redline battery charges longer, but also stay charged for longer

[astral tinsel]

rubico imo

[timber radish]

And for the riven what stats should i aim

[velvet pulsar]

Does shield recharge normally begin only when shield gate ends?

IDK why the 2 shield grendel isn't immortal

[astral tinsel]

yeah

[astral tinsel]

the usual probably

crit, multishot, base damage

[timber radish]

Thanks<3

[latent adder]

U mean with double regen? Shield recharge begins 1s after you last take dmg after shields break

If gate is 1.33s but u get hit at the 0.5s mark youll recharge at 1.5s mark

[sharp silo]

does this combo work as i think it does?

[placid geode]

As Long as you get an Increase in Armor, Battery will Trigger

So ye guardian will Trigger it

[velvet pulsar]

Even catalysing shields?

That makes sense

[sharp silo]

can gauss nuke with 40% ability strength?

[woven lynx]

is uriel really that busted? This dude seems to have everything in his kit

https://overframe.gg/build/935570/uriel/fire-and-brimstone-uriel-hybrid-nuke-and-weapon-platform/ I am using this build

[dim oriole]

Is the topaz archon shard (secondary crit with heat) good on nova with neutron star?

[sharp silo]

@latent adder does your nuke build require 100% ability strength?

[latent adder]

Ideally yes or higher

But if u dont its probably fine

[sharp silo]

what does the ability strength change?

[latent adder]

It directly multiplies sunder dmg, and also roar if u subsume

Like ideally id like to run 200 str but theres not enough mod slots and duration is more important, so u gotta outsource it

[sharp silo]

so it changes how many times i should cast thermal sunder?

[latent adder]

Yeah basically

The final dmg of blast

[sharp silo]

okie

i made an abomination

https://overframe.gg/build/854743/

[sharp silo]

perks:
maximum range
PSF
loot detector
quick thinking (resists toxin damage up to a certain enemy level with Kinetic Plating and Eclipse)

[sharp silo]

rate this build

[quiet laurel]

as you said yourself, abomination out of 10

[sharp silo]

well, i made it specifically for Archon Nira

and it works

[sharp silo]

i just tested the nuke , it does not work

there's not enough energy for me to spam enough thermal sunders

[soft aurora]

Is sol gate of wisp worth it? I'm trying something new other than my usual frames, that nuke is just for level 60 yet, need to learn how to make it work in steel path

[finite bluff]

Is burning hate mandatory for a hate build?

[astral tinsel]

not really

[finite bluff]

Ok

[frank matrix]

how much better is the braton prime incarnon compared to fulmin prime for steel path?

[old marsh]

Ye. U can use cataclysmic augment to lock down areas. It’s not better than gun buffing wisp but if u want a caster wisp that use it with breach surge and enjoy.

[old marsh]

Miles

[soft aurora]

All caster build, with surely a weapon, i got a kuva hek with radiation and was thinking if can use both of them together cus both got radiation

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

That’s not how radiation works

[soft aurora]

(2 months of warframe, i know nothing 🥀

[old marsh]

Check wiki for details

[soft aurora]

Alr, Thanks

[noble hazel]

anyone have a good uriel build i can use for steel path

[soft aurora]

@old marsh ok so that wisp nuke will work with viral weapons for good spread but for casting 4 i put precision intensify, argur secret it works good rn but what about arcanes?

[kind plank]

Is this harrow build good or bad??

[old marsh]

u can get more out of it if u subsume Roar over her 2. And then u can from precision for Umbral and u will get more dmg out of it

[soft aurora]

Ok that makes sense, i was thinking to subsume 2 anyways roar, thanksss now just gonna think about arcanes

[old marsh]

play around. Watch build guides. See what works for u.

[soft aurora]

Bet

[wraith glade]

why

[mellow jewel]

Anyone know what stats I should look for on a melee to determine if it's good with influence or not?

[pure kiln]

At what level does wukongs iron staff start falling off?

[old marsh]

Anything over 15% status chance. At max combo u r looking at almost 100% SC. Which means almost 15% chance to proc influence
If there r other weightings like element or IPS that r high then it will still work but not as often

[mellow jewel]

@old marsh since you're here I got a question. Can this thing be viable?

I made this thing pre influence and I wanted to see if I could run influence on it until I realized I can't

[old marsh]

Anything can be. Just expect that influence will proc less times.

[mellow jewel]

So I should look into a crit status hybrid zaw if I wanna do this

I need to start looking into zaws more

I wanna make the homeless loadout with 2 kitguns and a zaw

[old marsh]

Always go hybrid unless it’s a slam/heavy atk weapon. Coz u almost always want both.

[mellow jewel]

with 14% crit chance how high can my crit rate reach at max combo?

[old marsh]

14% X (540 + 110) if using Gal Steel. More if using Sac Steel

[mellow jewel]

I'm not sure on the build yet. Gotta decide on the zaw 1st

[late ice]

How can i make this build better for lv cap void cascade?

[civic gulch]

what do you guys think?

[pure kiln]

i have the toxin progenitor on it, but i still feel like it just tickles enemies above like level 70.. tested this against level 100 grineer in the simulacrum. should i replace primed point blank with a faction dmg mod?

[fierce lark]

you should if you can be bothered to (and if a faction mod is available for the faction in question), but it shouldn't be necessary

what you should do is use 60/60 viral mods (assuming you don't own primed cold), and add a heat or electric mod in place of ppb

frames with weapon buffs also make a tremendous difference

[spiral chasm]

His toxin prog doesnt allow him for a viral electric build

He'd need to change it

[astral tinsel]

it does though

[undone dust]

yeah, it quite literally does ✌️😭

[astral tinsel]

he's already modding viral

[spiral chasm]

Oh right u can add the mod but then its a wasted slot no?

You could slot something like elementalist instead

[feral magnet]

hi i have a question

is xoris' heavy attack not on mouse3 but on E on keyboard?

because my heavy is on M3 by default but on xoris it doesn't work, yet it throws if i hold E

[fierce lark]

if you want viral elec or viral heat, you have to add the toxin mod, or the cold + heat/elec will combine

it's not ideal and he should change the progen to magnetic as soon as is convenient, but it'll work

the alternative is the old build where you only add cold and mod HM

which we've already talked about ad nauseum how it's worse than elemental dmg

and even worse still in this case when you're not hitting 100% cc

[fierce lark]

glaives are a little different, you hold E to throw them, that's the "heavy" attack.

you can then press M3 while the glaive is in midair to detonate it, which is the actual heavy and is what consumes your combo

if you throw the glaive on repeat, it'll continue to build combo like a normal attack

generally speaking, building around the explosion with mods like volatile quick return and galvanized reflex is better

[feral magnet]

thanks man. i have 1500 hours in this game and this is genuinely first time hearing about this 😄

[fierce lark]

we're always learning

[mellow jewel]

is it possible to make a secondary vermisplicer that can hit 100% status chance?

[mellow nimbus]

other than dante and protea, what are other good specters?

[fathom sky]

Nidus maybe

That's pretty much it

[vocal vector]

is viral slash still the best on the zarr?

[maiden oracle]

Threw this build together myself and it works pretty well
Proud of it as is but how can I make it even better

[deep nebula]

I Love acceltra I just have an issue with it running out of ammo every 5 seconds lol

[maiden oracle]

I feel you

Even with Energized Munitions you burn through the mag instantly

[fierce lark]

it's not the mag, the entire ammo stock is gone in like 15 seconds without a lot of external help

between vigilante supplies and crux i still run out of ammo sometimes

[river palm]

i can only use the acceltra on cyte-09

infinite ammo helps a lot

[onyx ridge]

Is vauban good?

[river palm]

very, he takes a little bit of tech knowledge

[karmic badger]

Doesn't he have level scaled damage of smth?

[river palm]

yeah, flechette orb scales with enemy level

and is also buffed by universal damage increases

[onyx ridge]

Ok was thinking about making him new to warframe and needed to try someone new

[astral tinsel]

He's a bit clunky and doesn't have any strong damage reduction abilities

But the orbital strike is fun

[next apex]

Can anyone tell me which of these is better, or if they are both mid and I can just keep on rolling? Left would just be a primed target cracker upgrade, but the 288% dmg seems like I could replace galv shot, but im not sure how the interaction with 2 status mods on a single riven works.

This is supposed to be corrosive, but I cant find a proper answer as to how the mods interact with the base status of +100 from dual tox

[gleaming oasis]

I wish to learn the ways of the farm frame

[olive rover]

Yoo i need some opinions on jade build anything i could do different

[wild rune]

Left can be used in place of Primed Target Cracker, gives a stronger bonus and the reload is good QoL for Incarnon transformation

Riven elements are strange in that they work as follows, from what I can remember (someone can correct me if I am mistaken):
If there are no combined elements currently present in mod order, the elements of a riven will automatically combine into their respective combined element. With the right riven, you would get Magnetic guaranteed, even if Toxin or Heat is located somewhere before it.
If a combined element using a riven element is present in mod order, that single element will combine and leave the other element alone. Putting Viral before the right riven would force the Cold to merge with the Viral, leaving the Electricity alone.

Elements on a riven are read from the bottom up; a riven with Electricity, Toxin, and Cold will be read as if it was Cold, Toxin, and Electricity in that order, yielding Viral Electric instead of the Corrosive Cold that you would think it would become. This little mechanic only really comes into play if a riven has three elements, though.

Dual Toxocyst's Frenzy's Toxin damage buff is effectively a ninth mod in practice, and will combine after mods have done so already. Placing the right riven in the build, no matter where it is, would then yield Magnetic Toxin once Frenzy kicks in.

I could go a bit further but that'd be too much yap

[river palm]

assuming you're meant to be using enervate instead of merciless?

cause i see crit damage and no crit chance

[next apex]

No I appreciate it alot! Thank you for clearing that up, I couldn't find any information on it online. I ended up keeping the left riven, for a target cracker replacement. The reload speed seems like it would be nice to have too

[wild rune]

it's definitely obscure knowledge for sure
Reload Speed is useful as a side stat for Incarnons as it affects the transformation speed, and also ends up being a riven killer for the same reason if it ends up being the negative

-RS makes incarnon transformations feel awful lmao

[undone dust]

especially phenmor

[fierce lark]

rivens with combined element still follow the modding order

if there was toxin before it, it would make viral elec

goes from bottom up

found that out yday with someone's archgun riven

[wild rune]

really? I've always found it to auto-combine
maybe they messed with the formula at some point

[fierce lark]

yeah i thought so too but i plugged the riven into overframe with his and got viral heat, and he did the same thing in game iirc

when he had a blast riven

[wild rune]

[rain nexus]

Actual acceltra prime build (working to get exilus adapter)

What can i do to get a better result at SP?

[somber pumice]

not a build, but he be looking fiiiiine

[karmic badger]

Crit delay instead of point strike, and since you're using Hunter munitions, Viral will be more useful than blast

[rain nexus]

Rlly?

I'll try viral so

But why he's most useful?

[karmic badger]

Slash bypasses armor and goes to health, viral increases health damage

[rain nexus]

The debuff of crit delay dont will make it worse?

[karmic badger]

Its miniscule

[rain nexus]

Mhm

[karmic badger]

Especially if you have an external source of firerate buff

Like a companion or just Gauss' redline

And really with the acceltra, your main issue will be ammo consumption

[rain nexus]

I'll get exilus adapter to use vigilante suplies for that

[karmic badger]

Will still go quick in my experience...

[rain nexus]

i feel that too

[karmic badger]

Also galv aptitude's damage bonus will only apply to direct hits, not the acceltra explosions

[quiet laurel]

take off aptitude, doesnt do much for it, wont recommend hunter munitions on such a low dmg weapon, as the other guy said crit delay and probably just corrosive as an element

[karmic badger]

Corrosive and cold to boost crit can help

Honestly running Crux and Energized Munitions might be needed to keep the damn thing fed

Really should redo my acceltra at some point... Its been collecting dust as a fissure runner

[vivid bison]

Is this normal?

[quiet laurel]

visual bug

[frosty fjord]

your stance is unequipped, for whatever reason

[rain nexus]

oh

[karmic badger]

Yeah, its running at like 30% effectiveness

[rain nexus]

What can i put instead of aptitude?

[karmic badger]

Galv scope and go for headshots

[rain nexus]

mhm

[rain nexus]

why the corrosive one?

idk which build i can follow if hutner munitions isn't the best here

[quiet laurel]

strip and extra damage to armored factions

[rain nexus]

srry, im not familiar with english so idk what's strip

[karmic badger]

Cause corrosive is the only debuff element that doesn't use cold

[karmic badger]

Removes armor

[frosty fjord]

armor strip = armor reduction/removal

[rain nexus]

I see

[fierce lark]

galv scope on the acceltra is definitely a task

[karmic badger]

Its a thing

Ive tried it, it works, but is it worth the hassle?

[rain nexus]

Whats mean with "task"? Thats a good or bad thing?

[fierce lark]

im just complaining to myself about trying to do headshot kills on a projectile aoe gun

[rain nexus]

lmao

[karmic badger]

It wouldn't be an issue if i didn't have to worry about ammo economy like this is a wargaming title

[rain nexus]

In that case, this makes Corrosive more situational when facing an armored enemy, right?

Wouldn't there be situations where Viral would perform better?

[quick quartz]

which subsumes outside of roar and nourish are also good to use for a weapons platform?

[karmic badger]

Energize Munitions

[rain nexus]

Thats make sense

[quick quartz]

seems interesting will give it a try ty

[karmic badger]

Eclipse is also an option

[rain nexus]

What about this build?

[karmic badger]

Rifle elementalist is pointless in this setup

[rain nexus]

He's only good when using hunter munitions builds?

[fierce lark]

eclipse is perma worse than roar iirc

[karmic badger]

Only when you got status effects that deal damage

[quiet laurel]

this is a dps sniped for a corrupted heavy gunner eximus at lvl 200 and this also shows why acceltra is pretty bad, even with all merciless stacks, fitting element, and galv stacks it doesnt even tickle the heavy gunner

[karmic badger]

So Slash, Heat, Toxin, Gas, Electric, Blast

[fierce lark]

xata’s is good for blast builds or if you’re playing crit laetum

[quiet laurel]

this is viral hunter munitions which doesnt make it a whole lot better tbh

you'd have to really hyperbuff the acceltra to make it good

[karmic badger]

Hence why mine is used only for my Gauss fissure runner

[rain nexus]

I see

[fierce lark]

viral heat acceltra with EM on rhino is probably really really strong

[rain nexus]

What about phantasma?

[quiet laurel]

god I love underframe, finally shows how mid some weapons are

[fierce lark]

in terms of making the acceltra usable anyway

[quiet laurel]

phantasma is really good with the new arcane

[rain nexus]

which one?

[fierce lark]

debilitate?

[rain nexus]

Im using that at her rn

90% percent of my Arcanes came from Roathe

[rain nexus]

Thats the new one?

[fierce lark]

one of them, should be good on the phantasma

lol acceltra

[rain nexus]

XD

[quiet laurel]

assuming 50% roar and 5 external viral stacks from a panzer or smth

not god like but pretty good

[rain nexus]

Thats a phantasma one?

[fierce lark]

the crit setup on phantasma is something

[quiet laurel]

I mean what else tbh

[rain nexus]

U dont will have a munitions problem without the vigilant suplies?

[quiet laurel]

faction mod + vigilante or base dmg results in lower dps than crit

[fierce egret]

You can swap out Arcane Tanker for Arcane Expertise for more shields

[quiet laurel]

might be different if you swap out roar

[quiet laurel]

oh def use vig supplies

it just doesnt make much sense with the dps calculations

is EM phantasma a thing

[rain nexus]

What EM means?

[karmic badger]

I mean, it does burn ammo, but its got alot of spare ammo

[quiet laurel]

energized munitions

[rain nexus]

Im having a problem with bosses bc i need to proc the Merciless to deal dmg with her

So idk which weapon can i got for that

[rain nexus]

Thats a frame ability?

[quiet laurel]

can I introduce you to our lord and savior mirage zaw

[rain nexus]

mirage zaw????

mirage i know what is lmao, but whats zaw?

[rain nexus]

Im using a Nautilus RN, so panzer i'll be better than him with the Phantasma?

[quiet laurel]

custom melee weapon you can craft at cetus

[rain nexus]

I dont understand these differences, what's panzer for? and nautilus?

I see my nautilus doing some little nukes with his build, but i also see some people saying panzer will be better than him

[quiet laurel]

panzer just gives you free viral stacks on enemies, can achieve basically the same thing with sentinels too tho

its just panzer needs less setup for it

while sentinels require some eximus kills

or you mod viral onto the weapon

[rain nexus]

I see

[quiet laurel]

but thats too much into detail I feel like for what we are discussing

[rain nexus]

Im just trying to learn more about builds overall

[rain nexus]

If im using viral at my weapon, the panzer will be useless for proc viral?

[quiet laurel]

I meant the sentinel weapon sry

[rain nexus]

oh

[quiet laurel]

not your main weapon

[rain nexus]

lmao, srry

Thats my Verglas rn

[novel bear]

Doesn’t that need the plague star arcane though?
Not everyone will have that

[rain nexus]

And there's my Nautilus

[quiet laurel]

tbh the cheapest is 8p on market

and thats like the best investment I can recommend for anyone

[rain nexus]

Can he play the role of the Panzer without any problems?

[rain nexus]

which arcane is that?

[novel bear]

Exodia contagion

100p for a maxed rank one

[rain nexus]

bro...

[novel bear]

It double dips eclipse, but so do glaives

[rain nexus]

What's eclipse? A melee weapon?

[versed harbor]

tbf rank 0 exodia contagion is fine and its super cheap

[novel bear]

Mirage’s third ability

[rain nexus]

Oh

[novel bear]

Multiplicative damage increase

+200% strength scaling

[quiet laurel]

you need just R0

maxed one doesnt benefit you much

[wild rune]

you kinda have to snipe things for it tbh

[novel bear]

Maxed one is four times the damage

[gleaming oasis]

Im looking to getting into farm framing

[quiet laurel]

on 30m throws

its crazy dps anyway with a 300% eclipse and every element primed (just gonna assume encumber priming)

tho I forgor which the better stance was

[novel bear]

Does stance matter that much? It shouldn’t affect the projectile

[versed harbor]

nah it does

[wild rune]

Contagion draws from the attack's multipliers, right?

or is it more of an attack speed thing

[quiet laurel]

tho the dps calculation for zaw doesnt seem to work right cause headshots doesnt affect the damage output hmmmm

time to bug report ig

I dont think the site considers eclipse double dip

[fiery salmon]

why ever use galv steel if ur using sac pressure? is there something i'm not understanding afaik sac just gives more

[mighty flare]

crushing ruin is better stance

[quiet laurel]

ye assumed so thx for confirming

[mighty flare]

blood rush gives lots of cc
sac steel gives lots of cc

galv steel gives less cc for more cd
combining cd and cc is better than only having cc

[fierce lark]

because sac pressure is bad and not used

[scarlet mason]

can someone rate my build? https://overframe.gg/build/949689/

[fierce lark]

sac steel is still used even without sac pressure for heavy spam builds that benefit more from the x2 from heavy attacks, and don't use blood rush, and often use amalgam organ shatter anyway

[quiet laurel]

galv steel + blood rush on light attack builds and sac steel + ppp in heavy attack builds

I dont think there is a single use for sac pressure when you have ppp

[fierce lark]

or killing blow

[latent latch]

what is a good uriel weapon platform build for steel path?

[vestal lintel]

Narrow Minded or Overextended on zephyr?

[quiet laurel]

overextended

[gleaming oasis]

Overextended. been using it for a while

[vestal lintel]

Ok thanks

[gleaming oasis]

I got a khora prime and a smeeta kavat. how to I mod them for farming?

[abstract bison]

lazy dread build?

[fierce lark]

isn't split flights kinda bad

[near vortex]

Nah, mods actually really strong on Paris and Dread last I checked

Gives those two an impressive amount of AoE

[fierce lark]

you lose all stacks after 2s and it does nothing for the first shot, seems a lot worse than galv chamber on paper

[abstract bison]

well if we end up hatin split flights then uhh this ig

[fierce lark]

can't speak on it in practice but i feel like it would be difficult to maintain

[odd elm]

Gota question im using overframe to make a new weapon build, how do i make a riven? there already 1 avalable to use just wrong stats?

[fierce lark]

bottom right of the riven mod when you slot it, there's a little riven button you can click to mod the stats

[abstract bison]

oh you can edit the riven stats on overframe to test things out

[odd elm]

omg\

i been goin nuts thanks bois

[near vortex]

You also get all four stacks in one shot with punch through on the Incarnons

[abstract bison]

it's just so funny that an acuity build only needs 2 V's and one dash lol

[fierce lark]

hmm

[abstract bison]

maybe one more forma for prim cryo rounds for more total dmg

[undone dust]

it's really funny on mutalist cernos but that's kind of it

[olive rover]

well im not really sure ill def try it im not really good at modding quite yet

[fringe gull]

Quick question. Does Sevagoths Shadow Build affect his 1?

[karmic terrace]

This build was made by MCGamerCZ before galvanized melee mods were a thing. How should it be updated now?

[river palm]

looks like it's a hybrid build so i would drop killing blow for galvanized steel, drop gladiator vice for berserker fury, drop animosity for anything else cause that arcane is sub par.

[river palm]

there's much better ways to build that weapon but if you want to stick to what that build is going for i'd start with this

[karmic terrace]

well, what are the better ways? I want to use it and I don't much care how

[river palm]

heavy spam would be my go to

[karmic terrace]

that would be awesome

[river palm]

that's citrines melee right? the one that shoots a projectile on heavy attack

[kind marten]

Is Double Tap worth using on the Latron incarnon?

[karmic terrace]

yep

I like the AOE

[latent jetty]

Would vauban by any chance be a good frame to play melee on?

y not tho

[lyric trout]

Hey im making a tank nova build and i cant figure out how to calculate my total DR

[river palm]

if you're using direct hits yeah, if you're just using the big AOE than no

[river palm]

his kit is very centered around ability damage

[kind marten]

Ah, does it not affect the incarnon mode as much?

[lyric trout]

@crust it could be fun just smack the guys in your 4

[river palm]

something like this with dispatch overdrive in the exilus and shocking touch in the empty slot

[river palm]

not as much, still can be useful for acolytes/demos

[kind marten]

Guess I'll try it, cheers.

[latent jetty]

Thats what im thinking honestly, might be fun. I know his kit centers around level scale ability damage but i kind of got tired of kullervo for a little bit

Tryna find a frame that might be fun to use ruvox with

Vauban came to mind

[lyric trout]

@latent jetty if u ask people if its good or not their thinking meta, play waht u want and see if it works my only problem with any build is usually suvivability. My vauban is squishy

[karmic terrace]

i forget what amalgam organ shatter does?

[river palm]

take the highest value and the multiply the next value by the remaining damage, for example null star = 90% which leaves 10% damage left, shields have innate 50% DR so you multiply 10% with 0.5 (50%) and now you have 5% damage left totalling 95% DR

[river palm]

crit damage +heavy attack wind up speed

[karmic terrace]

is it better to ignore things like combo multiplier with Galvanized Reflex or something?

[lyric trout]

@river palm ty i thought so but i couldnt find any asctual numbers

[river palm]

im confused

[karmic terrace]

is this better than adding Reflex to make use of combo? that's what I'm asking

[river palm]

if youre only using heavy attacks than initial combo is your best friend. if you wanted to use a hybrid build like the one you sent then reflex is useless

[karmic terrace]

heavy spam would be awesome

I don't want to bother with Tennokai, I hardly ever like it except on Stropha

okay i genuinely did not see reflex in there, I'm slow

I missed it somehow

sorry

[river palm]

you're all good it happens

[deep grotto]

Vauban’s a caster

[blissful sandal]

Good evening, how are you all?
I was thinking of buying the Nikana Prime, but first I thought I wanted a build to keep in mind, you know? And a lot of the builds that are in Overframe are kind of outdated... If anyone has a good build (that holds up well with SP), please, could you send it here?

[fierce lark]

something something slopfluence

[wild rune]

this might be an odd question, but since the fall of eclipse and the presumed death of tridolons, what's the current go-to now for them? is it still volt and rubico?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drawing-tablet-scold-tired-gif-7084813469604986995

[wild rune]

more specifically, when I last bothered with them, it was Volt - Rubico - Knell - Vastilok strip

[mighty flare]

rubico has been dead and rotting

[wild rune]

okay now I'm really late to the train then

[mighty flare]

its still eclipse + volt but with zenith + sicarus or like strun if you don't wanna mess with zenith

[wild rune]

you mind sending a sicarus build then? I'm assuming incarnoff enervate

[forest magnet]

What's a good general use Ocucor build?

[mighty flare]

pretty sure its still all outburst cuz vastilok

[wild rune]

a rare moment where I make use of all three mod config slots

[wild rune]

so vastilok is now full strip and build combo? interesting

[mighty flare]

for as long as ive been playing thats always been vastiloks job

[astral tinsel]

you used to want partial strip to keep the elemental weakness

[wild rune]

for a while, at least before the armor changes, Vastilok usually near fullstripped to keep Radiation weakness

[mighty flare]

👴

unc K

[astral tinsel]

that was less than 2 years ago, come on

[wild rune]

similarly, I used to sub off the Electricity mod on Rubico and replaced it with Primed Chamber because Shock Trooper would combine for Radiation

multiplication and all that

would oneshot with less combo generation

can't exactly do that with Shock Trooper no longer combining

[mighty flare]

forgot what last slot is, probs isotopes
you want dmg + ms riven to sub over hornet strike

exilus is the holster one

[mighty flare]

iirc rubico runs raw cold + rad now

[hollow scarab]

is there a way to get better damage out of this thing? i love the gun but it feels like its struggling more than it is for other people and Q&A is just brainrot these days

[river palm]

maxing out your mods is a good first step

[keen dawn]

is it worth using the kuva sobek without its augments?

[river palm]

also using a better arcane, plated rounds is very very meh

[hollow scarab]

what should i use instead?

[river palm]

its decent without, really shines with acid shells tho

if you like auto shotguns definitely give it a go

[boreal atlas]

Hey I’m new and I got this pretty op gaundo build anyone know how to make it more stronger?

[river palm]

merciless would be much more consistent, could also try out crux

[hollow scarab]

noted

[keen dawn]

yeah I only have acid shells for it clip delegation is too expensive for me to buy

[river palm]

you could then replace serration for heat damage to increase the unique traits damage

[hollow scarab]

ok thanks that worked. on the acceletra lol. tryna get all my favorites built up

this one seems more straighforwards

[abstract bison]

how much shields do i need for parasitic armor to work on Rhino?

[kind marten]

How do you guys keep your Kubrows alive, aside from Pack Leader? Built a Huras.

[abstract bison]

ok so primary bulwark, arcane expertise, parasitic armor subsume on Rhino?

[hollow scarab]

this is how i do it

[mellow jewel]

Switch the arcane to deadhead and take out serration for galvanized Aptitude if you have it. As long as you upgrade the other mods the build is fine

[hollow scarab]

deadhead and not merciless?

[mellow jewel]

I prefer deadhead since the stacks last longer and you only need 3 weak point kills to get full stacks

Plus you get extra headshot multiplayer with the arcane also

[hollow scarab]

ill try that out. im usually flying across the map so im not always hitting headshots lol

[mellow jewel]

Merciless is good for weapons with no headshot multiplayer access or just aoe weapons in general

Kuva Brama for example has no headshot multiplayer so merciless is better for it

[mellow jewel]

Same here but I got used to hitting heads mid air because I love seeing the big numbers and hearing the sound of the skulls cracking from the shot

It forms a dopamine loop for me🤣

[astral tinsel]

one potential issue with deadhead is that it doesn't proc from heat DoT kills

[hollow scarab]

dude i havent used the brama in a fat minute. i used to spam that thing so i wouldnt have to do anything but it got boring

[astral tinsel]

which reconifex is all about

[hollow scarab]

im considering overcharge cuz multishot would be nice

but while my uriel does basically stay at max energy 24/7 its not a huge pool so idk

[mellow jewel]

Most of the time you kill the enemies before the DoT with how much DMG it does

[hollow scarab]

and im not trying to rely on the uriel sigls cuz if there aint en enemy around like in certain boss rooms like the trauma from dark refract then i wont have that

i could be really weird and use the mod that gives crit and multishot for cold procs but cold procs on the reconifex is kinda cursed

[gaunt sapphire]

@craggy vector
is this ok

[craggy vector]

its something

[gaunt sapphire]

what do i do then

[craggy vector]

not sure

[hard dove]

Too much strength

You can be at 40% strength

[craggy vector]

oh you can?

thought negative strength would be bad

[hard dove]

It is but a large portion of her dmg is the gun being bounched around in her bubble

[craggy vector]

yeah thats true

[gaunt sapphire]

do i just not mod for strength

[hard dove]

I've hit dmg cap with 40% strength before

So unless you're using her dor cascade you can drop all strength mods

Add overextended

Don't need any shield recharge mods she has build in shield gate with either polarize or crush iirc

[craggy vector]

crush regens her shields yeah

[gaunt sapphire]

is that with augment or without

[craggy vector]

without

[gaunt sapphire]

ignore pistol amp

this tho?

[hard dove]

Do not narrow minded

Range is mag highest priority

[gaunt sapphire]

what in place of narrow minded

casting speed?

[hard dove]

Crush or magnetize augment

Drop adaptation