builds-discussion

[trim hill]

All are good, I think Skiajati might have the least return in investment, tho. Start with incarnons, and if it takes too long to get their builds going, Amanata has its augment which gives it tons of ezpz damage and is simple to mod for.

Ultimately, Dual Ichor or Hate will be the best of these. Depends how comfy your builds for each are currently

[gleaming oasis]

I would assume with a combination of a nukor the ichor goes crazy with condition overload?

[remote oak]

Does anyone has a protea prime build I can use

[gleaming oasis]

so lets start with that then. what are the main attributes that I should invest into the ichors

[old marsh]

Yes

[trim hill]

What's your current build look like?

[gleaming oasis]

no forma in it yet and I've been using the skiajati since it seems to have the best early payoff for no forma. This sis what I currently have for the ichor

pretty sire I didnt have condition overload when I got the incarnon

[fierce lark]

first thing you need to do is install potato

[gleaming oasis]

thats a given but yeah did have any at the time

[fierce lark]

you also want galvanized steel, galvanized elementalist and melee influence

since the ichor is innate toxin you need to run either viral or gas with electric

or play shock trooper

/electric lavos

[gleaming oasis]

how can I mod for Viral using the inate toxin without converting the mods to magnetic?

would it require another toxin mod to keep the viral?

[modest vine]

you need cold too for viral

[gleaming oasis]

I know that

[modest vine]

what does the build look like atm? if you got a screenshot

[trim hill]

Yes, you need toxin + cold on an innate toxin weapon to be able to mod for another single ele without mixing

[gleaming oasis]

thanks

[modest vine]

thank you booba there are times even some elemental builds and stats elude even me >.<

[gleaming oasis]

fyi the larger rank mods are only about rank 7

[trim hill]

Elements are super weird to learn, tbf. Once you spend 2krillion hours with them, you might figure it out, lol. Just glad to help!

[modest vine]

well least the elements are in the upper row so thats correct

(for those about to ask YES placement of mods with elements does matter when building certain elemental builds)

[trim hill]

Once you get GalvSteel, I'd probably swap SacSteel out, personally

[gleaming oasis]

yeah makes sense dont have that galv mod

[rocky aurora]

You need 3 element mods to make viral and elec on ichor

Or use Shock Trooper 🤷‍♂️

[gleaming oasis]

I am not running volt currently

[modest vine]

it depends if they want more crit dmg that galvsteel gives

[rocky aurora]

Subsume

[trim hill]

Yeah, elements combine from left-right, top-bottom. Like reading in English

[frosty fjord]

and then riven combines are a little bit more silly

[modest vine]

dont-even-get me-started

[trim hill]

It's also just generally cheaper, and it theoretically saves two mod slots

[modest vine]

yeah but im running two sacri mods on my melee and sac steel gives me 275 Crit chance

[rocky aurora]

Galv steel gives 120% cd, whereas 1 crit tier is only adds 2x cd

So if 120% cd gives you more than 2x cd, it's probably better

Furthermore, if sac steel barely puts you over the next crit tier, you won't reliably hit crits of the next crit tier

[vestal lintel]

what would you guys change?

[rocky aurora]

Remove all IPS mods, firstly

[trim hill]

Yeah, but that's also very costly. For a newer SP build, GalvSteel will probably get him further through

[vestal lintel]

what are ips mods?

[modest vine]

im happy to say with sac steel it puts me at 107% crit chance so sadly I need it lol

[rocky aurora]

So there is no additi9nal crit tier, its just normal crits. So you dont need it lol

[rocky aurora]

Impact, puncture, slash

They are some of the worst ways to increase your damage, sadly

Very niche uses

[modest vine]

mentally writes that down

[vestal lintel]

ah ok

[rocky aurora]

Without Melee Influence, you should probably be going for viral+heat build

[vestal lintel]

Also swooping falcon is the only stance i have for this melee

[rocky aurora]

Thats ok

[modest vine]

most of the time stance mods mean nothing but more capacity

[rocky aurora]

They actually are more important than that

[trim hill]

Falcon is honestly really good. Don't worry about not having the other options yet

[modest vine]

i agree i know they play an important role to some melees

[rocky aurora]

Some stances have better damage bonuses and may force proc certain IPS statuses

[modest vine]

really? huh learned something know

[vestal lintel]

For viral i have: Fever strike, North wind. For heat: Molten Impact

I also just got gladiator might

[rocky aurora]

Use all 4

[trim hill]

I recently swapped my single sword stances to Iron Phoenix so I can just hold W and swing

[rocky aurora]

If you have blood rush + weeping wounds, even better, though if theres only space for 1, id choose blood rush

[gleaming oasis]

so is it galv steel I need or another galv mod?

[vestal lintel]

Dont have weeping but i do have blood rush

[rocky aurora]

If you dont have galv steel or elementalist, get both, but get galv steel first

[trim hill]

GalvElementalist will also be good

[vestal lintel]

What should i prioritise to level up out of the mods you recommended?

[rocky aurora]

So youll want something like this pre-melee influence:
Condition Overload (base damage, so use pressure point if you dont have), weeping wounds, blood rush, attaco speed, range, faction mod (or flex).

In this case, if it's too difficult to upkeep melee combo for blood rush, you can continue using sac steel until you get galvanized mods. Crit damage is a must, attack speed is a must (unless you can outsource attack speed from Volt or Wisp, for example), and base damage is a must.

This leaves you with a few slots for you element mods for viral+heat and possibly a flex slot for faction, but 🤷‍♂️
I also recommend 60/60 mods for element mods

[gleaming oasis]

so what about damage then? As of right now theres 2 main slots open and an exilus slot and the damage sits at 80% crit chance and 3x Crit damage

nevermind only 1 main slot left didnt add shockig tough to the overframe build

[trim hill]

CO should cover your damage, esp if running viral+elec. So long as you have at minimum 3 proccs, CO will beat out Pressure Point

[rocky aurora]

For r10 mods, I recommend leveling them up only 7 or 8/10. The majority of the rank up cost is in the last 2 levels, and you've gotten most of the value from the mod at 8/10, so it's fine to leave it there to prioritize other mods

[gleaming oasis]

I already had that on the build. any other suggestions

fury for bloodrush maybe?

[vestal lintel]

Wdym by r10 mods?

[trim hill]

At this point, go for whatever else you need for comfort. Attack speed, combo dur, range, etc

[gleaming oasis]

thanks

[rocky aurora]

Example: Sacrificial Steel is an r10 mod because it has 10 ranks

The more ranks a mod has, the more expensive it is to rank up all the way

And for these specifically, most of the cost is in the last 2 ranks

[gleaming oasis]

what would the general consensus be for best stance mod for dual swords?

[vestal lintel]

Ah yeah ok, thanks for the great help.

[trim hill]

I think most like Swirling Tiger. I prefer Carving Mantis

[rocky aurora]

carving mantis has forced slash procs, which is pretty good

[simple juniper]

Could also sub out fury for Berserker Fury

[rocky aurora]

though I do like swirling tiger myself, too

[trim hill]

Carving Mantis just has less mobility overall

[viscid bane]

Best element for tenet arca plasmator? toxin?

[trim hill]

Can't hold W

[median heron]

Crossing snakes best

[rancid marsh]

Hello
does anyone know if there is a decoration that is like a black panel?
i want to make a dark room in dojo

[median heron]

Posters

[rain nexus]

I need a Acceltra Prime build, someone have one?

[worthy siren]

How do I do a good melee influence build for Garuda's claws? (no zenurik school)

[rain nexus]

ty!

[fierce lark]

can add vile acceleration over magnetic cap if you don't have external fire rate

i probably wouldn't though unless you're running EM or dispensary

acceltra suffers heavily from ammo problems

[rain nexus]

Yeh, i feel that lmao

[fierce lark]

can also run heat instead of electric for corrupted/grineer, gun has innate aoe

[frosty fjord]

vigi supplies or ammo mutation already helps a lot without crux too but of course why not use crux

[fierce lark]

with crux and mutation i still run out of ammo sometimes lol

not that ive used it a whole lot, in ETA ammo was a repeated issue, in conjunction fissures it was not

[frosty fjord]

ye I can see that higher level content it might suffer but base level SP it’ll be fine at least

[forest magnet]

What's a good Fulmin Prime build?

[fierce lark]

i might build my carrier and try acceltra with merciless lol

[olive wren]

wich one too pick

[scenic echo]

Dang I gotta review my build then lol

2nd one def

U get a free extra organ shatter with electric for melee influence

[safe prism]

wich one is better? 🤔

[novel bear]

Negative status duration is really bad

[scenic echo]

-Status duration - outweighs benefits 9/10 times

[safe prism]

so, im looking for a elec riv without -status duration

[scenic echo]

Yep

Alternatively you could slap lasting sting on it

If you really want the electric dmg

The 169% crit dmg can replace a organ shatter or gladiator might

Then you slap on melee influence and a lasting sting to offset the -status duration

My philosophy is I’d rather patch or slap a bandaid on a riven rather than waste the massssive kuva it would take to god roll it

If I get a god roll in 15-20 great! If not it’s too much sweat in the game to try and attempt a god roll

[scenic echo]

Forgot to make a reply notification

[gaunt sapphire]

not unless the build specifically relies on a certain status and its effect, instead of viral or whatev, can i really just lwk use any status effect i want on a weapon?

[gaunt sapphire]

obviously like- not the spinnerex or the vinquibus or the sobek with oraxia, im talking about just any basic weapon where someone would normally put viral or corrosive or critslash

i really want to try out status effects like magnetic or cold or blast but i cant find builds specific to those.

[safe prism]

and i forgot to mention that i did read it, tysm

[fierce lark]

because everything tends to be inferior to viral/corrosive + heat/elec

outside of specifically corpus, nothing is ever gonna beat the damage output you gain from applying viral to something, and companion priming isn't always reliable (assault mode range is 30m and precepts are generally even shorter), so you either get it from nourish or put it on your weapon

[gilded tusk]

Can I go no duration on Dante

[fresh solstice]

Is this any good?

[fierce lark]

fleeting expertise on mesa is worse than an empty mod slot

otherwise looks good

[fresh solstice]

What can i take instead of fleeting expertise

[fierce lark]

pistol amp is also terrible, the 55% or w/e damage it gives is additive with strength, cascadia flare, galv shot etc

[scenic echo]

You just swap up the elements for it

Very easy to do

[scenic echo]

You could

I will say you’ll suffer on his 2-3 and 3-2 abilities tho

[scenic echo]

I’m not much of a mesa main

But don’t all her abilities derive from range and strength?

[fierce lark]

move the transient polarity to the aura, move the aura polarity to transient fortitude, put corrosive projection in the aura and put whatever you want in the fleeting slot. adaptation would be my pick

range only affects the angle at which shatter shield deflects bullets, and how fast the regulators' circle shrinks

[scenic echo]

Ahh so then duration strength would be the play

[fierce lark]

obviously also affects the team buff radius of nourish but who cares

4 drain scales the same with both duration and efficiency, so fleeting expertise is fully neutral. you spend 60% less energy casting 1/2/3, but you have to cast them 60% more often, which is a net negative overall

adaptation stacks on shatter shield for an eventual 99% reduced damage taken from ranged attacks, good for pretty much all non-lcap

[fresh solstice]

Alright thx mate

[gaunt sapphire]

i have grendel but dont play him, im tired of modding for viral, so if i play him will i not need to?

im not very familiar with how his kit works

[coral crest]

yeah he has nourish, its adding viral damage

if you use him with Gastro he is more of a caster though

[gaunt sapphire]

is he good without gastro

[fierce lark]

if it's base grendel you can subsume him to get nourish on any frame (usually still worse than subsuming roar and modding viral)

you can play grendel though, suck people with 1 to gain a ton of armor, press nourish to heal and get the buff, use the 4 augment to turn people into bouncing stripping projectiles

[proud anchor]

Yep he's good without it but gastro just nukes easily

[coral crest]

yeah, his 4 still armor strips

[gaunt sapphire]

i might subsume him for nourish with chroma

[coral crest]

but with gastro they are bouncing around and doing serious dmg

[gaunt sapphire]

cuz i dont have gloom nor plan on getting it super soon

[fierce lark]

gastro nuke is a very real thing that does a shitton of damage and does aoe strip

[coral crest]

he also has hearty nourishment augment

that makes nourish give you status immunity

[coral crest]

it also scales dmg with enemy hp

[gaunt sapphire]

im not the largest fan of augments

[coral crest]

so never falls off

yeah hes fine even at base

unnerfed nourish and aoe armor strip in base kit, you dont need much more to run and gun

[gaunt sapphire]

one last question, how good is the dakra prime?

i got it with a mag prime regal aya kit

[fierce lark]

ive genuinely never heard of it so probably not great

[gaunt sapphire]

really? it has a 36% on crit i think

[fierce lark]

i think i subsumed roar over 3 on my grendel, because the rolling ball is pretty useless, though it is fun

[undone dust]

it's a sword that exists

[coral crest]

hm

neat

[fierce lark]

and im pretty sure roar double dips gastro

[undone dust]

it is literally just a basic sword that can kill things

[coral crest]

it does

since its guaranteed gas

[gaunt sapphire]

so its a strong crit sword?

[fierce lark]

maybe it's good, who knows

try it out

[coral crest]

yeah seems to be a decent crit sword

you got it with a slot and potatoed, you arent losing much

[fierce lark]

12x melee weapons get +550% crit chance just from mods, so a high crit chance base is pretty solid

[coral crest]

[gaunt sapphire]

i think i will use it then, i dont need anything that overpowered, plus it looks pretty nice

[fierce lark]

if you stick spiderwebs on it you'll probably nuke everything in sight up to god knows what level

[gaunt sapphire]

spiderwebs?

[coral crest]

[gaunt sapphire]

like oraxia u mean or what

[undone dust]

yknow, at least the base sc isnt that bad

[fierce lark]

steel
pressure
influence
discipline
elementalist
reach
weeping
electric
bloodrush
speed

(co instead of pressure but you get the idea)

[gaunt sapphire]

is that a preset for swords or just melees in general

[fierce lark]

light attack melee builds in general

they all follow a pretty identical build

anything you outsource can be flexed

[undone dust]

i love slop!

[gaunt sapphire]

whats the go-to sword stance

actually nvm ill check rhe stats and decide

[fierce lark]

vengeful revenant has the strongest fwd, crimson dervish has an insane neutral combo

[undone dust]

who up venging their revenant

[fierce lark]

dervish is also the only stance with a spinning hit in fwd combo

so id probably run with crimson dervish, do neutral combo for big targets

[scenic vapor]

How do i unlock modding

[fierce lark]

doing the teacher quest, i would imagine

that's supposed to be the modding tutorial

[scenic vapor]

How do i start it

[fierce lark]

from your codex

to the left of the navigation console

[scenic vapor]

Thank you so much

[edgy verge]

which one?

[river palm]

i would pick right

[narrow lance]

Thoughts on my Vinquibus build? I feel like It just doesn’t do enough damage in steel path. Hoping someone smarter than me will notice a problem where I’m not. 👍👍

[drowsy pelican]

I feel like eternal war shouldn’t exist. That should just be how the ability works.

[mighty flare]

both rivens pretty bad, new weapons dont really like rivens anyway
rifle

• consolidate riven and point strike for critical delay
• slot vital sense

melee is a big mess, how do you want to use it

[unkempt rivet]

Should I go more for status or crit with the Onos?

[mighty flare]

onos is a hybrid, you build for mix of both

[unkempt rivet]

So what I’m already doing, got it👌🏼

Also reroll or keep?

[narrow lance]

Atm I use it where I get a few melee hits to boost critical on the rifle. Essentially alternating between rifle and melee as they boost each other’s stats. Fundamentally though I like to use melee a lot more

[narrow lance]

But yea ai know the rivens aren’t that great and im trying to roll them to get more desirable stats for the build.

[lofty tiger]

Ok so i have a mirage build idea

So latron incarnon, hall of malevolence, warcry and roar right off

[lofty tiger]

Good idea?

[river palm]

the world of bandaid augments

[river palm]

go for it man, good AOE + mirage is always gonna end up working

[lofty tiger]

I have a questionable build in mind

Cant have anything that benefits from combo or galvanized mods

[uneven field]

need help with my vaykor hek, i don't have the exilus spot but this is the best i can get it right now

[lofty tiger]

And screw crit sense that wont scale well

[analog stirrup]

take out point blank and hunter's and replace them with full elementals (the 90% ones)

[narrow lance]

Eh or Neh?

[uneven field]

what would you use instead of hunter munitions?

i swapped point blank with chilling grasp

[analog stirrup]

do corrosive blast, you already have toxin/cold, just add heat and elec

[uneven field]

then i need a heat 90% for shotgun

whats the name of it?

[analog stirrup]

gud question... can use fire rate instead if you don't have heat

corr+cold still works, Hek is more about flat damage than anything else

[uneven field]

okay so

what about this

[analog stirrup]

yep, looks gucci

[uneven field]

or this

which is better for like, long run

[analog stirrup]

try both, see how it feels, faster fire rate will feel confier, starting base damage will make little difference but there's a difference

[candid panther]

i just got this riven, im not sure which one is better, im pretty new at the game. do i go left or right

[rocky aurora]

right is "better" but neither are too good

[versed inlet]

Which would be better for incarnon? :>

Cropped because chat wouldn't disappear lol

[near vortex]

Slightly scuffed build

[twilit bay]

How do i build a heavy sword?

[maiden oracle]

Rate the brrrt blaster

Quite happy with it so far, it holds up well into SP

[sullen python]

(Latron Wraith) it says it does big damage, but i managed to trash the latron 😭

got this now, but idk if its much good, how do i build the latron?

(building for when i get incarnon, dont have incarnon yet)

[glad jackal]

💀

btw the first arcane from this guide is aegis

[hard dove]

Is that uriel?

Why??

[sullen python]

all of that strength is gonna be wasted cause the range wont hit anything 😭

[glad jackal]

after second look, it weapon platform Uriel

[sullen python]

ohhh

[glad jackal]

why they dont said that on the title lmao

[hard dove]

What's 4 replaced with?

[glad jackal]

also why Aegis

[hard dove]

I bet it's nourish

[glad jackal]

Nourish

[sullen python]

is the latron even worth building/modding before i get the incarnon?

[glad jackal]

no, but you should anyway for Incarnon

[hard dove]

You can build it and then wait for incarnon

[sullen python]

thats what i was doing, but its so terrible rn

[hard dove]

Don't bother using it until incarnon

Youre like a nonth away iirc

[sullen python]

its like 8 or 9 times worse than my lex lol

[glad jackal]

though if you have Prime version or have plat to buy 1, dont invest into normal Latron at all

[velvet pulsar]

Primed Rapid Resilience when DE?

[rocky aurora]

I wonder what the Uriel is buffing

better not be a Heat DPS weapon

[lofty saddle]

Immortality at 3 energy a second right? because ball mode heals 550 a sec and can't take more then 550 a second.

[mighty flare]

Ball healing degrades over time so you’ll need a lot more

[lofty saddle]

):

[mighty flare]

Casting nourish heals you too btw, sustain off passive ball healing then cast nourish when your low

[lofty saddle]

Yea... I know... I was just trying to be extra lazy...

[spare geyser]

So are the Balefire Chargers just.. bad?

[mighty flare]

they are very good actually, do you have hildryn's aegis gale augment?

[spare geyser]

Not yet

What mods do i need for hildryn actually

I JUST got her prime

[south flare]

How does my Frost build look? I'm working with what I've got, and hoping it's enough.

Those energy costs are a bit painful...

[mighty flare]

hildyrn likes high range and strength
most important for her balefire chargers is the aegis gale augment
then a shield mod instead of the usual flow/equilibrium on other frames

[spare geyser]

I already have Blazing Pillage but idk if thats needed

[mighty flare]

blazing is pretty meh and meant for like infested faction cuz no shields

[south flare]

Also, I don't have any Archon Shards in. Would those help Frost at all?

[limpid socket]

for Khora Prime, I build both the Whipclaw and the supposed "statstick" melee right ? also do you guys have any recommendations for a MR9 Khora Prime build ? thanks a lot

[spare geyser]

So i needa get prime redirect too?

[mighty flare]

yeah thats her mod, regular works ok if you dont have it rn

[steep plover]

Does anyone have a good mirage build

[spare geyser]

I have like 2-300 plat rn

Small shopping trip lol

[spare geyser]

More strength than range or range than strength

[mighty flare]

lasts slots are your preference
hildryn usually uses 2-4 strength shards

[crisp pine]

problem.. My garuda has some problems with survivability in EDA and ETA as some modifers would mess with her. What i do?

[mighty flare]

are you playing her as a weapon platform? caster?

[crisp pine]

mostly caster. max energy and damage on cast sometimes just bad ...

espcially abililty lock down

[undone dust]

where are you getting invis from

[crisp pine]

ghost but i am flexible technically

[undone dust]

i feel like relying on companion invis for crep (especially on garuda since you'd prefer to throw yourself into the air at mach speed to maximize basketball firing) would be inconsistent and not necessarily worth it

[crisp pine]

it was more of something I am trying

[undone dust]

we do like trying things

[crisp pine]

what would yuou suggesst

[gaunt minnow]

Question, if i were to build around tatsu's unique trait. What kind of riven should i aim for?

[gaunt sapphire]

are ALL 4 hydroid augments good????

which ones do i gettyt

[undone dust]

rousing plunder is the only mediocre one

[gaunt minnow]

Pilfering swarm is good

[gaunt sapphire]

is that the one i should skip out on

[undone dust]

yes

[gaunt minnow]

Yuh

[gaunt sapphire]

are most hydroid builds 3augment

[undone dust]

tidal impunity is just a better rolling guard, viral tempest is really good for spreading viral to help boost your 1s damage, pilfering is nice on loot setups but it's not necessarily needed

rousing plunder just adds a negligible bonus to plunder that you can entirely skip out on

[gaunt sapphire]

can you provide a build with pilfering and one without

just like general missions and sp

[undone dust]

id recommend at least either tidal or viral (or even both) in a build (tidal can replace both psf and rolling guard)

[near vortex]

Gloom?
Why

[undone dust]

sadly i do not have one since i dont use pilfering at all

[gaunt sapphire]

show me the tidal and viral build

[undone dust]

i just got off twin

[gaunt sapphire]

i dont trust overframe cuz its garbage

anyone have a viral and tidal hydroid build i could use

[near vortex]

Take off fast deflection and Catalyzing Shields for stretch and auger reach. Your Arcanes should be Molt Reconstruct and Arcane Arachne.

Gloom subsume isn't the sauce. Roar is universally good, Tempest Barrage is really fun, Breach Surge is funny too

[undone dust]

nourish with bloodletting is peak energy

[near vortex]

Archon Intensify also should go if you change Gloom

[near vortex]

It's the lazy option

It's less damage than most other options and halves the amount of times you press 3

It's also shit at viral priming compared to tempest Barrage with the augment

I played a lot of Garuda today so for once I actually kinda know what I'm talking about

Oh yeah, and no need for Handspring in the exilus. Parkour Velocity in some form or Kavat's Grace are both good there, otherwise Cunning Drift

Garuda's one makes you immune to stagger but not hard landings

Companion invis is really nice synergy with Garuda, I've been running it all day and it's super effective at keeping me alive

Means you can put 2-3 weapon slots into utility like statsticking a Kubrow, Praedos being Praedos, or auger mods on pistol and whatnot

It might be worth putting a weapon on to deal with Acolytes, but honestly with tempest Barrage subsumed if you do a fast 2 into the 1 4 combo you can pop Violence before he casts Silence

[gaunt minnow]

Bro's an encyclopedia

[near vortex]

I have a lot of things going through my head

Currently making a Garuda loadout to take to level cap

[gaunt minnow]

👀

I do have a question regarding arcane arachne

[near vortex]

What about it?

[crisp pine]

would rapid resilience be a good or cheap way to have discount status immunity?

[near vortex]

Absolutely

Don't need it on Garuda tho since 3 cleanses status

[gaunt minnow]

So what frames can make use of it aside from garuda? There's a weapon i want to build that can get buffed by it

[near vortex]

Anything with a weapon-coded ability used for damage.
Garuda and Nova come to mind with Null Stars and Dread Heart, I'd have to check the wiki to remember the full list

The damage boost applies twice on thrown glaives so it's really synergistic with them

Breach Surge is another

[gaunt minnow]

The weapon is actually not a glaive. Its the tatsu prime

[gaunt minnow]

I do like this ability

[near vortex]

I'm not familiar with Tatsu Prime

Thats Rev's sword, right

[gaunt minnow]

Yeah

[versed birch]

How many forma should I expect to put into Nataruk for it to be steel path worthy

[gaunt minnow]

Its uniqe trait trigger influence, is multiplicative with CO, and it gets buffed by arcane arachne so i was thinking about having a build around it

[near vortex]

uhhhh
Not many, since it comes with like 4 Madurai polarities by default, no?

[crisp pine]

the only reason I even had gloom is to recover health from bloodletting. Also range for the nuke i guess. I guess we have another way for health recovery

[versed birch]

Yes. But I can’t max galvanized mods as it stands. Maybe I’m trying to do too much hybrid damage

[near vortex]

Molt Reconstruct does the healing job without taking a helminth. Highly recommend. Range is SUPER important on Garuda, so get a lot of that

[mighty flare]

garuda doesnt need high strength, drop both arcanes to use molt reconstruct and free gloom subsume for whatever
garuda survives off iframes/shieldgating and invis if using pets so no need for fast deflection
get more range for caster

[near vortex]

Yeah basically that

Arachne boosts dread heart so that's an excellent thing to slot

If you don't have Arachne it's in the operation shop rn and it's flexible if you prefer vigorous swap

[crisp pine]

arachne require me to latch a wall right?

[mighty flare]

yeah, just use vigorous swap

[near vortex]

Yeah, latch to a wall to get the benefit for 30s or swap weapons while charging dread heart every time you cast it

It's largely preference but Arachne is what I run

If you want you can put endurance drift in the exilus and one tau blue energy shard to hit 1k for Primary Overcharge, if you want to try a weapon with that

[crisp pine]

handspring is my usual setup mostly due to potential knockdown anyways. It could also just use cunning drift as well. But I am just overbuild it

[spare geyser]

Is the build valid?

[crisp pine]

Oh god, we could meme with Resonator

[velvet pulsar]

Yes
But what in this context?

[crisp pine]

max range stealth garuda

I have no idea how hildryn works

[spare geyser]

@mighty flare

[velvet pulsar]

I suspected this was going in garuda direction

[stone lake]

Which one of these should I keep?

[velvet pulsar]

Fire Rate

[mighty flare]

augur mods bad on hildryn, if using another shield mod on hildryn, the only good one is like boreals
arcane velocity > molt augmented
do you have the primed elemental mods for secondaries?

[velvet pulsar]

Reminder that arcane concentration doesn't snapshot the reduced the energy drain over time for channelled abilities

[spare geyser]

1. Gotcha
2. Dont have velocity
3. I have no primed mods for secondaries yet

May i ask why auger mods are bad?

[mighty flare]

augur set bonus doesn't work for hildryn and low stat bonuses
for example, boreals gives 5% less shields for usable extra stat and set bonus

[spare geyser]

Dont have boreal- was just using it just for the shield and strength buff

Also i just got r3 velocity

[mighty flare]

i be using this with vazarin for high lvl content

[spare geyser]

I just keep Zenurik on at all times

[mighty flare]

zenurik useless for hildryn sadly

[spare geyser]

I mostly use Protea

I just got Hildryn

[tribal abyss]

Does influence douple dip on elec modifiers or only triple dip on faction damage

[jaunty briar]

Which coda weapon is the best for me to get? I'm currently looking for a secondary or a melee weapon but if there's anything better than burston prime incarnon, I'll take a primary too

[coral crest]

Dual coda Torxica is currently available at a very high roll

Great secondary

[jaunty briar]

Got it

[dusty dragon]

ah uriel. arcane persistence or hot shot?

[coral crest]

Hot shot

[jaunty briar]

Oh damn I cant get it hahahaha. Requires M17. Im only m15. Anything else?

[dusty dragon]

what do?

[jaunty briar]

nvm. They all need m17

Guess i killed my coda lich for nothing

[coral crest]

Auto dual pistols that on kill release projectiles which proc cold and a 50% dmg vulnerability

[wooden belfry]

Anyone got a good build for hate?

[urban flax]

How is my Nikana Prime build? What can I do to make it better? (I'm planing on replacing reach for primed reach)

[shut forge]

Might be a bit overdone but I definitely suggest Condition Overload and throwing on some status mods. I'll show you my build

(ignore my inability to correctly dedicate each stance to the corresponding build, I just got lazy)

[urban flax]

I have this, I didnt have some of your mods

[fathom cove]

can anyone give an alternox prime build ?

[shut forge]

That should be pretty solid!

[wooden belfry]

?

[mighty flare]

👍
https://overframe.gg/build/936254/alternox-prime/alternox-prime-viral-electric/

[fathom cove]

thank youu gonna use it on gyre

[zinc thunder]

How can I improve this?

[plain drum]

how do we tell him chat

[zinc thunder]

I don't use it
I just put random stuff on

[plain drum]

i mean if you dont wanna spend an adapter for influence ig thats already pretty good, otherwise i'd swap out organ shatter for blood rush

[fierce lark]

isn't the fragor a big hammer

[zinc thunder]

Yes

[plain drum]

yeah

i thought slam build would suit it better

[rich saddle]

So, went a bit overboard with Cyte yesterday IDK how this can be improved, but I want those eight-figure red crits. 😄 (for context, returning after about 3 years, so some nice stuff from the later updates may or may not require some grind, and I'm kinda clueless about the current meta in general.)

[fierce lark]

sounds like slambait

[plain drum]

figured

[zinc thunder]

I'm tired of using slam builds

[plain drum]

well too bad

that's the whole gig for hammers now

[zinc thunder]

Then I'mma get rid it

[fierce lark]

fragor prime is actually one of the better hammers in terms of pure damage, but the attack cycle is slow

so it wants to be slammed more than most

it's also very low base status which does not favor influence

i would just avoid the entire hammer subclass if you don't like slamming

[plain drum]

you can start by swapping out streamline for equilibrium, put power drift in exilus (would be better if you can use the ability range variant i think), get rid of coaction drift, slot in rolling guard
for the exalted you can slot in galvanized scope and target aquired over sharpshooter and one of your elemental mods if you wanna go all in on headshot damage

and for the arcanes im pretty sure arcane crepuscular is the best one for him

idk about the 2nd one

[rich saddle]

Only got 1 so far 🙁

Anyway, I hesitated between equilibrium and this, I'll try both.

[plain drum]

you can buy it from eleanor in the hex faction

[plain drum]

equilibrium normally the go to mod for builds that use blind rage

unless ur using nourish with archon stretch

thats also good enough

even then im not sure cyte wants to replace any of his abilities without changing the build anyway

[rich saddle]

Yea, still about a week of grind. Anyway, if I go Equilibrium is it still a thing to use a cat/dog with Synth Fiber to force red orb pickup?

[plain drum]

yes, very popular

most used companions rn are hounds and panzer vulpahylas i think, and some kavats idk (i dont use kavats)

and sentinels

i only stick to hounds or panzers since im too lazy to get new companions

[fierce lark]

a drift mod in an omni slot outside of the exilus

is causing severe soul damage

[rich saddle]

Glad my panzer fox is still usable, she was set up for just that.
And what about shards? (unlocking new shards will, ofc happen but after I fully grind 1999 rep)

[plain drum]

wait bro has an omni slot i just noticed

[fierce lark]

he has two and one of them has an exilus lol

[plain drum]

for shards i suggest getting the new fusion segments first before doing anything

what was it, coalescent fusion and the other one

they help to fulfill stat requirements in builds

e.g for arcane persistence or casting speed

[fierce lark]

ascent and coalescent fusion segments

i think they're both 1 segment?

[rich saddle]

I just put 2 omnis because I wasn't sure what I'm going to do and slapped whatever while formaing up. 😄 Sorry for the damage.

[fierce lark]

im less upset about the omni and more upset about the exilus mod taking it up lol

[plain drum]

if you're confused on what to build just go check ninjase's builds in overframe for refference

[fierce lark]

dead eye & coaction drift are awful btw

[plain drum]

doesnt he want corrosive projection or smth

or does cyte like growing power more

[fierce lark]

this might be a warped opinion but i genuinely think corrosive projection is almost universally bis unless there's a specific reason you want another aura

[plain drum]

is corrosive projection additive to corrosive status?

[fierce lark]

cyte can use growing power fairly well, psure neutralizer damage snapshots strength every shot

corrosive projection is multiplicative to corrosive/heat status, but it's additive to abilities that strip and other corrosive projections

[rich saddle]

IIRC it's not related, it's just map-wide armor debuff.

[rich saddle]

Wait, it does? That definitely changes things.

[plain drum]

i only really use growing power on frames that snapshot it

[fierce lark]

the % of armor stripped by corrosive status will come off of the remaining 82% of something's armor after projection is applied, same with heat

but if 4 people have corrosive projection, all enemies just have 72% less armor

and if you have corrosive projection equipped, you only need an ability to strip 82% to fully strip

[plain drum]

pillage is the most common one i know that is usually paired with corrosive projection

theres tharros strike ig but be so fr

[fierce lark]

given the only enemies that don't die instantly are usually high level corrupted/grineer, and people are usually subsuming roar/nourish and modding for viral, corrosive projection will very often net the highest gain

and it's faster to just have passive armor reduction than to spend the time and energy to cast pillage or terrify or smt

if all players every mission have corrosive projection equipped, armor is basically a non-factor

i have become a devout follower of our lord and savior corrosive projection

[rich saddle]

Yea, so basically it's the way it used to be. It had always been very strong.

[fierce lark]

i think it's stronger now tbh

armor levels were so high back then that everyone modded viral slash to completely ignore it because there was too much of it to make other damage relevant without instant 100% strip

[rich saddle]

Yea, have guns like that still 😄

[plain drum]

armor strip was a big thing before the steel path armor nerf

now every frame can do armor strip, but armor wasnt as important as it was before

[polar yarrow]

Can an excalibur +AX52 weapon make it to clear steel path ?

[fierce lark]

arthur sucks

uh excalibur can clear steel path with just his exalted weapon and a functional build

[polar yarrow]

but id like to play ax52

if I wanted melee only I take valkyr

[plain drum]

fair

[polar yarrow]

[plain drum]

use it on some other frame

[fierce lark]

if you want to do your best nightingale impression then you'll have some trouble

[polar yarrow]

but I like arthur skin

[polar yarrow]

I'd love to, really enjoyed playing arthur and his ak

[fierce lark]

ax52 is a little clunky without external support, and excalibur offers absolutely nothing to help gunplay

[plain drum]

ig you can use a primary acuity build or smth

with biotic rounds and galv scope

and heat

[fierce lark]

yeah the other issue is making the gun half-decently functional for high level content requires buying a pretty expensive mod

holy shit it's 150p

i bought it for 55 last year lmfao

[plain drum]

i can take my time to farm credits but i cannot for the love of me farm endo

i dont have the patience for bounties

[polar yarrow]

what is the best frame to use it with ?

[plain drum]

what frame pairs well with headshots?

whats cyte passive again

50 gazillion crit chance

yeah ig he pairs well or smth

[astral tinsel]

1% per weakpoint kill

[rich saddle]

+1% crit on successful headshot up to 300% until death/end mission.

[fierce lark]

anything that buffs guns

harrow, saryn, rhino, gyre, volt, chroma etc

cyte i guess xd

[plain drum]

i know im a chroma addicted fool but i would not personally reccomend chroma, that mf too expensive to build

unless you've already done so like 2-5 years ago

so many mandatory arcanes for his builds it pmo

[fierce lark]

wut

every frame wants arcanes

[plain drum]

yea but like chroma has 50 gazillion builds he can use

its hard to stick to just one

with nourish theres better options, with breach surge its only good on endurance, same goes for pillage, theres gloom but thats like so lame

[fierce lark]

having an arcane library isn't exactly unique to chroma, if you play more than 1-2 frames you probably have a number of arcanes sitting around

this also isn't really a concern for someone who's just looking to platform their gun

[plain drum]

its more about his survivability, they need to improve that

[fierce lark]

there are enough people clamoring for a chroma rework that it'll probably happen soon

[plain drum]

PLEAAASEEE

actually my first built warframe (i did not build rhino up until later in the game) and my first prime

put guardian armor in his base kit and let us recast elemental ward 🤑

make elemental ward one handed too while we're at it

let us glide after double bullet jumps

shit yknow what give him status immunity while we're at it

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-devil-diabolique-evil-gif-9725651736562738158

[old marsh]

we delulu-ing, r we?

[plain drum]

yessir

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[plain drum]

tbh theres better choices for frames that are in need of reworks like ivara or loki

i dont see a chroma reowrk anytime soon

putting my delulu aside

[rich saddle]

Rolling guard still a thing? Between that and Duviri I'm already reconsidering my return... "Do a perfect parry, enter the Contra code during the following 12.5 iframes, repeat 1000 times" is the exact kind of gameplay I didn't sign up for.

[fierce lark]

idk what that means, if that's any reassurance

rolling guard is a thing but it's far from mandatory and i rarely ever run it

[old marsh]

it’s a code

[fierce lark]

i had to re-read it to get the joke but yeah no warframe is not that kind of game lmao

[old marsh]

It has the name of next Warframe

[fierce lark]

Duviri Contra

[old marsh]

We just need to crack the code

[fierce lark]

you parkour around, shoot things, cut things, slam things or blow things up

idk if rolling guard was some necessity before but it definitely isn't now

if anything the most annoying part of current gameplay is how effective shield gating is, but we also just got a new form of tanking high level content (which people seem to be obsessed with taking into content that doesn't allow it to work properly)

[rich saddle]

It was in high-level Steel path. But if there was an armor nerf, then I guess it's much less so now.

[arctic pelican]

is there a riven made specially for kuva zarr or would a zarr riven work?

[fierce lark]

zarr riven

[willow otter]

Yes for both

[arctic pelican]

ty

[fierce lark]

if a weapon has multiple variants, they will all share a riven

[neon hearth]

I was wondering if anyone knows how Valence Formation on Lavos interacts with weapon status chance, since the status is guaranteed does it completely override status chance, making it a dead stat, or does it add on top of the usual weapon status procs as if you had over 100% status chance?

[coral crest]

It adds a non combining elemental mod and forces a corresponding proc

Iirc it affects elemental weighting but otherwise doesn't interact with anything

[neon hearth]

Yeah, but I'm wondering what forces a proc actually means, since with over 100% you can proc multiple times

[coral crest]

It doesn't care about your status chance

[fierce lark]

i don't see why it would affect elemental weighting

[coral crest]

It used to, not sure if it was patched

[dull lark]

Yooo question
Does anyone know if mags first ability has some sort of cap or limit on how many enemies it can pull

[fierce lark]

it's like adding a separate instance of x damage with x status, except the damage instance isn't separate

but everything else is

[coral crest]

It used to combine with weapon's modded elements as well

[neon hearth]

Oh so I'm still procing statuses like I would be usually? That makes sense yeah

But the elemental damage scales like a normal mod would, just doesn't combine?

I wish I had the simulacrum to test these things 😅

[coral crest]

Ok it might've been patched

[coral crest]

Yeah, VF is essentially a 200% mod that doesn't combine

It affects DoT of combined elements if infused

[fierce lark]

from what im reading on wiki, valence does actually shift status weighting

interesting

[coral crest]

Yeah it's basically a mod

A weirdly implemented mod on demand

[neon hearth]

Aight thank you very much, then I'm definitely just running primary crux and low base elemental damage, with high crit

[fierce lark]

crux seems anti-synergistic

[coral crest]

Guess what Cedo is

That's by design pretty much

[neon hearth]

I'm trying to get MR 15 ;~;

[coral crest]

Just saying that you are on the right track

Since his weapon is a low status high crit auto shotgun

[fierce lark]

also the guaranteed status applies to every single instance of damage from your gun, not every shot

40 multishot kuva hek moment

[neon hearth]

Yeah rn I'm using the dera vandal incarnon and it shreds with Lavos as well

[coral crest]

Valence is weird when it comes to the way it's implemented

[fierce lark]

holy shit i think i found a use for primary debilitate (joke)

[coral crest]

since it's a universal weapon buff like Nourish, it affects weapon coded abilities

So you can do something like the infinite fart Lavos

Gas breach surge

[neon hearth]

Also with galvanized aptitude, lets say I kill a mob with 5 statuses, then another 6, do I have a 40*5 + 40*6, direct damage buff?

Or am I not understanding how the mod works

[coral crest]

For most weapons aptitude just adds base dmg like serration per the amount of statuses

[neon hearth]

Yeah, but I'm wondering how the buff is applied

Since lets say I have 1 second left on the buff made with 8 statuses, but then kill a mob with 1 status

[vagrant lagoon]

YO right or left?

[neon hearth]

Will I get a new buff of 40*1 for 20s or refresh the 40*8 for 20 seconds?

[coral crest]

It affects direct damage on an enemy

[vagrant lagoon]

Im not using any serration or any damage here so maybe the 134.2% damage is better?

[coral crest]

Not lasting in any way

[neon hearth]

Ohhhhhhh, ok the buff is much simpler then gotcha

[coral crest]

Yeah, it just scales damage the more statuses there are on an enemy

[neon hearth]

So after two kills I just have a buff that makes me do more damage to enemies with statuses on them?

[coral crest]

Yes, with more statuses = more damage

[neon hearth]

Thanks yeah that's pretty simple

[coral crest]

Not quite

It affects only direct damage

So it almost never buffs aoe

Barring some really weirdly made weapons

[neon hearth]

Does that work differently from serration?

[coral crest]

I think so, serration doesn't care

Some weapons also don't have aptitude apply like serration

Instead it's a multiplicative bonus, resulting in supercharged damage

Code jank

[neon hearth]

Gotcha, so there shouldn't really be a difference for something like the cedo or dera vandal, since they just shoots bullets?

[coral crest]

Lemme check

You never know

[neon hearth]

Is it that bad? 😅

[coral crest]

Yeah, it's additive

[shut saffron]

There is a sheet for this

[coral crest]

Hitscan is usually additive, but some weapons have really weird behaviors

Yeah, lemme grab it for your convenience

[neon hearth]

Would love to have it, thank you

[coral crest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/htmlview#gid=221509335

@neon hearth

[neon hearth]

🙏

[shut saffron]

Cedo altfire is multi co

[pallid adder]

I have a question related to damage mechanics

[latent latch]

Can anyone please help me with a hate build

[coral crest]

It's really cool that we got archgun arcanes

Secondary Shiver is a CO type bonus

[pallid adder]

I just started steel path. Sometimes when I shoot them in the head it'll do 9k damage, other times 90k damage. I know the crit chance isn't 100% but it happens quite frequently. Is the 90k a corrosive proc?

[shut saffron]

Yeah that's how co is tested on most shi

[coral crest]

Can actually use that

Grattler is MultiCO, horrifyingly enough

Even though shiver is the only way to gain CO on archguns

[mortal hawk]

Would anyone maybe have a build for Loki prime that can make his invis last longer?

[tribal scroll]

Does anyone have any advice for this hate build?

[fair sphinx]

Any citrine mains here ? Want to know how you all build her ? on overframe, the updated and popular build is a companion dps build and requires a paris prime incarnon stat stick wiht a riven which i don't have so i figured i build her as some kind of red crit dps with her crystalize thing instead of relying on my dog to do the damage

[tribal scroll]

No build in mind but why not just go max duration with arcane concentration with ris invocation (grimoire)

[coral crest]

The neat part is that all that separates you from dog and no dog is an augment

That you would want to use anyways

Because static crystal is kinda uncomfortable

I'm no main, but use her somewhat often

I just use max range, as much strength as I can get, 2 cast speed, 2 equilibrium shards and 1 duration shard

And 2 augments

The pet crystal one and recrystallize

I'm using her with augmented coda Sporothrix, because it's an aoe sniper with 5% crit chance that becomes 300% if you hit a crystal

Your pet occasionally exploding everything is just a nice bonus

[pure gate]

Has Chroma's synergy with Glaives been changed or touched in past years? Just curious since he seems to have a lot of interesting builds

[fierce lark]

there are a number of things that go into calculating damage. obviously if you crit, what tier of crit, any active buffs, the amount of armor the target has, and if they have any statuses increasing their damage taken (heat/corrosive reducing armor, viral, cold increasing crit damage taken, etc)

[coral crest]

I use a hound with restorative bond to keep it alive, since Citrine's 1 is an orb feeder

[fierce lark]

a level 105 grineer trooper has about 2100 armor, which is equal to 70% damage reduction without any strip. a grineer heavy gunner of the same level has 2700 armor, which is 90% reduction

hyekka masters at that level will have 2700 armor, and an innate 25% damage reduction applying after that

oh actually hyekka master damage reduction scales with level, so it's 90% after armor lol

[fair sphinx]

soo i basically take out the crystal augment, slot in something else and just play her normally ?

[coral crest]

Yeah!

Or you can keep the augment because moving crystal is convenient

It's really about people wanting to use the pet stat stick to minmax pet dmg

If you use something like a hound the dmg becomes a non issue anyways

[fair sphinx]

hmm true i imagine moving crystal is pretty convenient, any pet or sentinet that can hit a lot of ppl at least so the crystal can at least prime baddies for me then ? Do i just use the invis doggy like ninjase's guide suggest ?

[coral crest]

If you're gonna shoot it won't work, invis would break

If you want to use the gun and mass pet destruction at once, run a hound

[fair sphinx]

Ohh soo Ninjase's invis dog is meant to be used with melee ?

[coral crest]

Or Raksa!

[fair sphinx]

Ohh shoot, hound as in those sister's pet robot dogs ?

[coral crest]

It regens your shield, free gate

[coral crest]

Yeah

[coral crest]

Ninjase's build is minmaxing pet dmg output

[fair sphinx]

ahh shoot. time to look up what's a good hound

[coral crest]

You aren't even attacking really

[pallid adder]

I also have viral on my companion so thinking maybe it was that and I wasn't noticing

[coral crest]

Her dmg buff is indifferent to damage sources and your pet is an active carry of that buff

So it's logical to try and minmax the pet itself

[fierce lark]

yeah viral stacks from the companion are gonna cause your shots to randomly do 2x damage, or more if there's more stacks

[coral crest]

But it's not necessarily your only option

As I said, you can totally do everything at once

Citrine doesn't care, as long as something is dealing dmg she's fine

[wraith glade]

why isnt my kullervo harmony hitting consistent damage

[fierce lark]

wym

[wraith glade]

it either hits 500k

4mil or 40mil and once damage cap

mind heloin me out

[fierce lark]

would need to see the mod config to know for sure, but the likely case is variable priming

although i dont see how harmony is hitting damage cap without some extreme setup

[wraith glade]

my harmony

pharoah predasite and my kull

anyway to make my dog attack faster to prime enemies? cuz he likes to js shake his body then slowly attak

[fierce lark]

the damage you deal is gonna vary heavily depending on a number of factors, especially since you're using condition overload

[wraith glade]

shd i use primed presure point instead

i dont like to prime enemies

[fierce lark]

you aren't the one priming

i think what you should do is equip the full mecha set

[karmic badger]

your companion is usually doing the priming, god knows my hound likes to make it rain procs

[wraith glade]

whats that

[fierce lark]

it's the mod set you have on your predasite and its claws

at max rank, you mark an enemy every 15s and the marked enemy spreads status to every enemy in a 30m radius

although im not sure how that would work with harmony

[wraith glade]

what shd i mod my predasite then? i want him to insta prime evbverything

[fierce lark]

i dont use predasites so i cant help you there

but i do know diriga tends to be the preferred primer for melee setups

[wraith glade]

that could work

do i have to invest alot?

i spent like 700 plat on the predasite 😭

[fierce lark]

bruh

[wraith glade]

alright, dirigia level 0 does crazy good priming

[wraith glade]

burst laser ebtter than vergelas?

[wraith glade]

@fierce lark

[icy urchin]

technical question about rift haven augment on limbo cus idk where else to ask, it says heals banished teammates but does that include teammates in the rift through cataclysm instead of specifically his 1

[velvet pulsar]

Nope only his 1

[icy urchin]

damn that is a lot worse than i thougt then

[velvet pulsar]

Yeah that shouldn't be the case DE

[icy urchin]

might take it out my coop grinding build then cus its not as useful with what im doing

[wraith glade]

@velvet pulsar

[velvet pulsar]

Incomparable

[wraith glade]

as in?

[velvet pulsar]

One is utility other is damage

[vagrant lagoon]

Valid build?

[latent latch]

What is a good hate build I don't have it's incarnon so what mod should I use?

[wraith glade]

howd u get the hate 😭 ur so lucky

[latent latch]

Yeah but I'm still struggling to get a build for it

[spiral chasm]

Probably light influence

[wraith glade]

incarnon makes it good

[spiral chasm]

Idk could afflictions still be good on hate with no incarnon?

[fierce lark]

apologies, burst laser

[latent latch]

Can you name modes I can use

[tranquil plover]

how should i build vinquibus

[solar sentinel]

Is this good

[wraith glade]

can u help me nuke in SO

[midnight horizon]

The corpus soldier when they finally think they killed me but I magically revive-

[fierce lark]

not rn

[drowsy mauve]

Can someone help me improve my cedo prime build?

If y’all are wondering why i used fatal acceleration is cause I thought it would improve the speed of the secondary fire

[spiral chasm]

dont use proj speed mods it messes up the glaive so it hits less people

[drowsy mauve]

Ah
Okay

[spiral chasm]

CO, galv steel, galv elem, reach, attack speed, WW, BR, hate augement if u have it

and ofc tennokai on exilus

[old sapphire]

@wraith glade minute long redline, my current shards are set to strength but i recommend moar duration

[wraith glade]

wth

am too broke for shards

[old sapphire]

krill issue, doesnt have to be TF tho

[wraith glade]

whats a krill

[quiet laurel]

2 subsumed but no aegis?

waddesigma

[old sapphire]

not a shield gating build????

[quiet laurel]

how do you survive

[old sapphire]

because the things trying to kill me are already dead

if they are dead; i cant be dead

[velvet pulsar]

Gyre main spotted

[wraith glade]

wth

[old sapphire]

my gyre using is 0.1% btw

[fierce lark]

gyre uses 1 arcane slot for infinite survivability nowadays

[quiet laurel]

truly a build of all time

[wraith glade]

yalls are isnane

[fierce lark]

circumvent is crazy

[velvet pulsar]

Good reminder
I haven't maxed that arcane

[old sapphire]

gauss's redline duration = redline strength, idk why

[quiet laurel]

wish gyres abilities could scale more

[karmic badger]

Gus prim survives by shield recharge speed

[old sapphire]

moar duration = moar fire rate

[fierce lark]

wut

[old sapphire]

he dont gotta

[karmic badger]

His passive boosts recharge speed

[wraith glade]

does so only work for weapons? or is senda better for frames

[fierce lark]

oh yeah i see

[old sapphire]

dawg ive played gauss for a year and a half now i understand his whole kit fairly well

but if theres SOMETHING im missing then god tell me

[fierce lark]

it's cause the higher his duration, the more time he has to spend charging redline

and the more he charges it the more buff he gets

redline always takes 1/3rd the total duration to charge

[old sapphire]

;-;

[karmic badger]

Idk, warframe players have issues reading (me too). I just know that gus prim goes fast so his shields recharge faster

[quiet laurel]

gauss buffs scaling off duration is making him so easy to build its crazy

[karmic badger]

Neg duration gauss is technically feasible too if you don't mind constantly recasting redline

[old sapphire]

ok since rev is so desperate to see my Kinji Hakari shield build here it is. venemous eximus and toxic ancients still one tap kek

[quiet laurel]

with subsume another victim of full duration/strength and neglect range and efficiency but build variety amirite

[fierce lark]

his passive gives him shield recharge rate based on battery

if you're 100 battery, you slot fast deflection, and you trigger arcane aegis, the aegis effect overflows into his shield recharge effect for w/e reason

[quiet laurel]

💀

[fierce lark]

which essentially gives gauss full immortality to all damage except toxin

[velvet pulsar]

Negative strength affordable
Just like Zephyr

We should get a corrupted mod which gives duration at the cost of str

[old sapphire]

i know that smh :/

[quiet laurel]

can drop redirection and vigor

[karmic badger]

When DE makes corrupted vaults more intuitive for new players

[old sapphire]

moar shield.

[quiet laurel]

you say you play guass for 1 and a half years and dont know about aegis gauss?

anyway aegis on gauss with fast deflection makes you immortal to shield damage

[old sapphire]

...

[fierce lark]

i just explained how and why and he said i know that xd

[old sapphire]

THIS. LIKE BRO WHAT ARE WE SAYING-

[quiet laurel]

so then why argue with "moar shield"

[old sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[velvet pulsar]

Some people willingly don't wanna use aegis gauss

Digest that fact

[quiet laurel]

while this person is quite literally using it

[fair sphinx]

Talking about gauss

[quiet laurel]

its not like you can disable it or smth

[old sapphire]

i use it daily on my crit build anyways ;;;;-;;;;;

[fierce lark]

everything beyond aegis deflection is taking up mod space and doing nothing

[velvet pulsar]

Hmm ||I'm also using that||

[fair sphinx]

How do you all like regen energy properly for gauss

[fierce lark]

synth deconstruct + equilibrium

[old sapphire]

kinetic plating.

[quiet laurel]

equilibrium

[fierce lark]

cureall energy fix

[velvet pulsar]

Pool of Life

[old sapphire]

wtfffff

[fair sphinx]

Hmm maybe i am just doing something wrong because like when i play gauss, like i find myself running out of energy then dying

[old sapphire]

moar kinetic plating, son.

[fair sphinx]

like don't i have to run out of shield for kinetic plating to regen me energy ?

[quiet laurel]

wait I just saw kinetic plating not subsumed on the aegis build

[old sapphire]

use aegis

[fierce lark]

different frames can use different methods but synth deconstruct on an aoe beast or a sentinel with tazicor/aoe ability, and equilibrium

is a universal energy solve

[quiet laurel]

not to be toxic or anything but its just so interesting to see 2 builds having build choices that would fit better on the other build

[velvet pulsar]

Can also use Universal Fallout + radiation manifold bond

[old sapphire]

subsumed over**
idk its flexible, can use Thermal Transfer which is why KP is subsumed over

[fierce lark]

im ngl

universal fallout sucks

[old sapphire]

this

[fierce lark]

i might be getting hard baited by using it on qorvex but it does not sustain energy enough to drop equilibrium

[velvet pulsar]

Equilibrium already gives 55 energy along with the innate 50 energy, making it 105 energy per orb

[quiet laurel]

on aegis build it actively hurts you cause you want some battery for the constant shield recharge and kinetic plating tanks your battery hard

[fierce lark]

well the point of fallout is you use it to drop equilibrium

[velvet pulsar]

Or drop synth Deconstruct

[fierce lark]

for what lol

[old sapphire]

redline. kinetic plating wont drain when you hit 100%

[quiet laurel]

but gotta hit 100% first

[fierce lark]

companion mod slot is infinitely less valuable than warframe arcane

[old sapphire]

ok??????????????

[velvet pulsar]

Tons of choices
Several bond mods

[quiet laurel]

gauss augment with 100% redline uptime would be so goated

[velvet pulsar]

With that said
I don't use equilibrium fallout

[old sapphire]

yeahhh we need a mach crash rework too. such a bad augment imo

[fierce lark]

the 10th mod slot on a companion is never gonna be worth more than a warframe arcane

[old sapphire]

genuinely just subsume Mag at that point

[steady epoch]

Oberon is laughing at this

[velvet pulsar]

Nyx

[fierce lark]

it might be better on oberon or hydroid

[quiet laurel]

I'd rather have bad augments than augments that are necessary for a build but then we come to the topic of a dedicated augment mod slot

[fierce lark]

it does not do enough on qorvex

[old sapphire]

the humble thermal transfer:

[fierce lark]

and qorvex can get things to 10 rad stacks in like 1 second lol

[velvet pulsar]

How about combining a manifold bond radiation primer?

[steady epoch]

On Oberon it says “everyone in the grass drops a universal orb”

[fair sphinx]

NGl i am thinking of getting universal fallout just for my oberon prime

[steady epoch]

It’s so good

[quiet laurel]

for weapons platform build yeah but not needed on nuking build
am talking about augments like the situation for gyre and caliban

[steady epoch]

Oberon is a beast since his rework

[quiet laurel]

caliban without his augment is just missing out on his kit atp

[old sapphire]

oof. yeah, caliban is kinda crutched on Razor Mortar

[steady epoch]

Or like Nova… ancient frame, crutches on two augments

Just make Neutron Stars part of her passive DE…

[velvet pulsar]

Nova doesn't have augment compulsion

[quiet laurel]

having to use an augment for hot shot truly is so enjoyable pls DE send 10 billion augments to nova

[fierce lark]

can't wait for uriel to get augments that do nothing bc his base kit is already broken

[velvet pulsar]

Y'all can feel free to switch to manifold bond primer for hot shot

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine utility

[quiet laurel]

uriel will probs get an augment to have his 4 cost energy and be spammable or smth

[fierce lark]

actually

[velvet pulsar]

Nah combine all 3 summons and become a Transformer

[fierce lark]

an augment that turns brimstone into a channel that he can hold indefinitely as long as he has energy would be absolutely disgusting

[velvet pulsar]

Power Rangers

[quiet laurel]

uriel augment to make his summons actually do smth

[velvet pulsar]

Megazords

[quiet laurel]

improved AI on an augment pls DE

[steady epoch]

Was thinking of the wrong thing

[velvet pulsar]

I detected a lie and it got deleted

[quiet laurel]

was boutta say

[steady epoch]

I was thinking of orange shards

[velvet pulsar]

Hot Shot
Orange Shards
Tauron Strike arcane

[steady epoch]

That’s what my Mesa has

[wraith glade]

skibidi otoielt

[velvet pulsar]

Mods Fragor this guy

[fair sphinx]

Sometime i wish these augments for old frames get put into a new system that doesn't take up a mod slot.

[steady epoch]

A max rank Hotshot and Orange shards and I was able to remove the Ceramic Dagger/Secondary Outburst nonsense on Mesa and just run Furax Wraith like a gentlemen

[fierce lark]

uriel bouta be like

[fierce lark]

why not furax wraith secondary outburst nonsense

[velvet pulsar]

Rauta + secondary + furax wraith incarnon

[steady epoch]

Oh yeh Outburst is still on Furax

[velvet pulsar]

Another lie

[fierce lark]

if it's a melee it can equip crescendo which means outburst is bis

get math'd

[wraith glade]

does CO and PPP stack for harmony?

[velvet pulsar]

They're additive

[steady epoch]

I’ll try not to be dyslexic in front of you anymore Internet person 😛
Cause you matter soooo much

[velvet pulsar]

I'm not the only one to point out

[wraith glade]

why is my kullervo so buns

[velvet pulsar]

Though do u use crescendo on furax or do u use rauta?

[wraith glade]

it doesnt even go to 100mil

[steady epoch]

Neither cause I’m not using Outburst on Regulators anymore

I think Hotshot and five tau orange is plenty of CC and adding Cascadia Flare for base damage on Regulators might be more damage with a little viral

The CD from Outburst is the only thing I miss

But Mesa is super borked rn so it doesn’t matter

But I don’t know the math that well so i could be very very wrong

[latent latch]

What is CO , WW and BR?

[tranquil plover]

gun co is uhhh

[karmic badger]

Condition Overload, Weeping Wounds, and i forgor the last one

[tranquil plover]

galvinized mods that add status i think

[fathom sky]

Condition Overload, Weeping Wounds, Blood Rush

[latent latch]

Thanks

[tranquil plover]

i need a vinquibus build

preferably endgame

[fierce lark]

https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

nothing special, viral heat rifle, 12x influence melee

acuity optional if you want more pure single-target

personally i would run dexterity on the rifle

[karmic badger]

Gas could work for a bit of AOE

Or blast, but not sure if blast procs 100% on death? Or is just whatever is on target?

[fierce lark]

blast procs whatever stacks are left on death

[karmic badger]

Yeah, so gas is better in this case

[fierce lark]

actually the calculation there is interesting

[karmic badger]

Also gas procs from either melee or rifle applies the benefits to the other

So if you got a couple melee induced fart clouds lingering, the rifle will get the ammo efficiency

[fierce lark]

normally when you hit 10 blast stacks it explodes for 300% base weapon damage (multiplied by status damage and twice by faction damage)

but if you kill an enemy with blast stacks on it, it will explode and do that same amount of damage per stack in the same radius

[karmic badger]

So its 300% per proc when killed?

[fierce lark]

yes

[karmic badger]

Bloody hell

they gonna have to glue you back together, IN HELL!

I suppose its to make it more worthwhile for really big damage weapons

[idle mantle]

ay so i feel like everything i have rn sucks

i just finished the new war but im still using frames like rhino and equinox

i just got umbra prime but i feel like i just have him loaded out like trash

[steady epoch]

Rhino and Equinox are very good

Equinox can be one of the most powerful nukes in the game, and Rhino is invincible up to a very high level

[idle mantle]

his iron skin ability is the reason i use him

this is my main weapon for umbra here

skiajati

[old marsh]

Mod him appropriately and u can do high lvl content with breeze

[idle mantle]

i think my prob is idk how to mod properly

i think i need to just watch some yt vids on it

[fierce lark]

mod for all the different aspects of your damage output

base damage, crit chance, crit damage, attack speed, range, elemental damage, optionally faction damage

a big hurdle of the early game is actually getting all of the important mods

there's a very quick an easy way to fix this setup though

remove guardian derision and shocking touch, then swap the placements of north wind and molten impact

if you have a mod that gives you attack speed (quickening/fury), put it in there, and put in organ shatter if you have that

[versed birch]

Ihave gotten a ton out of WarframeFlo’s “How to Mod Anything” series. It’s worth watching and even taking notes on.

[idle mantle]

so like this???

[hard dove]

where stance mod

[idle mantle]

i dont have one somehow

[timid dust]

brief respite?

[astral tinsel]

blood rush

[clear dawn]

whats the best nuke frame

[gleaming oasis]

which attributes and special gimmicks are should you mod for on the acceltra prime?

[hard dove]

Sevagoth/Gauss for scaling (there's another i forgot)
Volt/Mirage/Saryn for eso nuke

[steady epoch]

Equinox

[obtuse locust]

Hey gamers, I’m using this build for mag
(https://overframe.gg/build/511592/mag-prime/mag-prime-239-str-235-rng-nourish-100-armor-strip-ez-endurance-steel-path/)
but it doesn’t recommend any archon shards, I put two yellow ones on for casting speed but don’t know what I should use for the other three, any suggestions?

[astral tinsel]

violet equilibrium for energy economy?

[gaunt sapphire]

good?

ignore the low rank arcanes, im gonna grind those in a bit

[karmic badger]

Blind rage being odd ranked hurts me, but that's just personal preference

[gray canyon]

Hello. is this the max potential strength build of a chroma, or it could add more?

[gaunt sapphire]

rest is good?

[abstract bison]

very easy with mastercard prime

[scenic echo]

The status duration kills it if you’re going for deadhead or frostbite

[scenic echo]

Additionally multishot is no bueno on ax-52 if you’re running primary acuity

[lethal vine]

Is the trumna a multiplicative CO weapon?

[undone dust]

multi on direct grenade hit but additive on the actual grenade

[lethal vine]

alr

so what mods should i put on if im building for the grenade?

[cunning finch]

how much worse is the Boltor Inc compared to Burston inc? I sadly missed burston so im thinkin of making Boltor instead

[steady epoch]

make them both

both are very usable

[frosty fjord]

it is somewhat worse yeah but still not necessarily bad

I never personally used it too much since I had burston incarnon first but it was still doing its job

[fathom sky]

Boltor's far worse but it's pretty unfair to compare it to Burston anyway. It's still Incarnon so it's still good.

[frosty fjord]

yeah its just that a lot of things will just be "worse" if you compare to burston but that doesn't necessarily make them bad

[cunning finch]

what makes burston so much stronger compared to most weapons?

[fathom sky]

Absolutely broken fire rate and massive increase in base damage from evolutions

[abstract bison]

so far i have the soma, sybaris, burston, boltor incarnons they all feel meh

i bet the braton incarnon is different this time

it'll be different this time trust

[frosty fjord]

braton is pretty similar to burston no?

[fathom sky]

55 base damage, 50% CC and 3x CD and 20 FR (Counting evos and in Incarnon Mode) is just nuts.

[abstract bison]

burston has the syndicate augment for fire rate and +1 gas truth nuke

[fathom sky]

Braton's just worse Burston.

[abstract bison]

truth nuke

[frosty fjord]

yeah thats what I thought too

[fathom sky]

slightly more base damage but far less fire rate

[abstract bison]

gas blast wins again

maybe the braton will be like the lex in terms of simplicity

[dim viper]

the only primary i feel even close to burston is latron

[abstract bison]

truth nuke

maybe i should build the burston for acuity and see what happens

[abstract bison]

oh right next on my incarnon shopping list is the Latron, the Bo, the Braton, the Okina

[dim viper]

just bigger reds but there’s no actual point. multi shot is way more useful

[uncut thunder]

should I pick the new or the old one?

[fathom sky]

-CD is immediately useless

[abstract bison]

i like bigger reds bc crit tier dmg multiplier

[uncut thunder]

gotcha ty

[dim viper]

i have the braton it feels mid. latron is fun becuz u have 2 very different builds. either puncture evo or red crit evo. both pretty viable