builds-discussion

[abstract bison]

accuracy by volume of fire

[fierce lark]

i have heard kunai incarnon is only good if you take the very annoying swap evo

[mellow palm]

I don't use that evolution, too annoying

And standing too close then toss it? Wonky as hell, not even hitting the head but somewhere else

[abstract bison]

it is also counted as a weapon swap if you press melee and then aim with a gun again

[trim hill]

I like Kunai Incarnon because I can swap to it, not aim whatsoever, and ADS with Crosshairs for big pp dmg

[abstract bison]

so i think that it's meant to synergize with a melee playstyle

[mellow palm]

Pick a slow melee is a problem then

[trim hill]

Simply don't do that

[abstract bison]

ninja build with a nikana and kunai lol

or the okina's

[mellow palm]

Fair enough, okina is peak though

[abstract bison]

like a true tenno

[mellow palm]

Imma wait for my ruvox to be finished

[trim hill]

True tenno plays Wii Bowling (Coil Recharge) to kill enemies

[fierce lark]

yes, but the kunai evolution specifically states swap from primary

[abstract bison]

i like running mods like eject magazine on my pistols

[trim hill]

Synth set ftw

[abstract bison]

press F ig

[fierce lark]

lock & load is bis on the felarx, i think

[mellow palm]

Ruvox incarnon seems to have a foward spike on slam, something magistar don't have

[abstract bison]

kunai and a bow

[fierce lark]

should be at least

[mellow palm]

Dread and despair

Lmao

[abstract bison]

hey i have those haha

[mellow palm]

Do you have a full set?

Dread, despair and hate

[abstract bison]

i don't have Hate tho for the melee

[mellow palm]

Oof

[abstract bison]

just need pathos clamps to install the adapters

i'm more of a daikyu and nikana primes enjoyer

[mellow palm]

I see

[fierce lark]

i want a daikyu & sharpshot, looks fun

[abstract bison]

acuity sharpshot build

then maybe use the lifesteal with persistence ig

[astral tinsel]

amalgam daikyu target acquired + gas / elec

[abstract bison]

blast on the daikyu is a bit 50/50 yeah gas might be better here

even with 120% status, gas feels nicer on it bc the cloud lingers as you nock the next arrow

[astral tinsel]

gas and elec can headshot, blast can't

[dry cedar]

Does anyone know the best titania nuke build?

[astral tinsel]

which

1. charges sharpshot / deadhead
2. lets the proc benefit from the target acquired 1.75x headshot multi again

[abstract bison]

we can save a modslot on electric by just using one purple shard on a melee frame that uses mostly purple

realistically you only need 3 purples for the melee crit dmg

5 of the same effect is too much imo

[trim hill]

Can't believe you just said this totally reasonable opinion

[abstract bison]

we gotta ✨ diversify✨

[novel bear]

Why are you putting primary and melee shards on the same frame?

[fierce lark]

problem with diversifying is you make both playstyles weaker

[abstract bison]

melee shard is purple, electric shard on primary is purple,

bonus electric dmg gets added the more purple shards are slotted on

one electric shard effect on a 5 purple setup is like a 90% electric mod for free lol

[fierce lark]

each electric shard you add also gains the bonus from all the others

[abstract bison]

i disagree, you just gain versatility

there is such a thing as too much damage

[coral crest]

Versatility is a strong word

How about you back it up with gameplay

(for legal reason this is a joke)

[fierce lark]

how can there be too much damage

[abstract bison]

i'm gonna stream for you and you better donate 5000 platinum

jk

[coral crest]

How about you do it

And I will spend that entire budget on writing a Lavos bible

[abstract bison]

if harrow is the priest of crits, lavos is the priest of elements

[coral crest]

No, he is the priest of having the most fake fans imaginable

[abstract bison]

😔

i use him for fast profit taker runs tho, that's the only time i play lavos

not even railjacking it

[coral crest]

You see all the Lavos propaganda and then never see him ingame

It's disingenuous at best

[abstract bison]

that's so true lol

[coral crest]

[abstract bison]

valence formation the warframe

[coral crest]

That's exactly my point

[trim hill]

We be playing solo, because these big knees keep hitting other players' countertops and it hurts

[coral crest]

People don't know him, people know valence formation

Anyways my new amp finished crafting

[fierce lark]

only thing that sucks about violet elec shards is it makes my burston do radiation bullshit

[coral crest]

Time to talk to little uhh

[fierce lark]

little duh

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-cute-babyduck-flower-aesthetic-gif-24625430

Little bruh

[trim hill]

I thought radiation was the best element, wym?

[wild rune]

radiation has a few niche applications on bosses whose armor cannot be stripped
otherwise it serves no purpose beyond stacking condition overload effects

[fierce lark]

maybe if you're shooting hunuhuhuhu or whatever its name is

[coral crest]

radiation becomes good with nyx as well

[trim hill]

I was just trolling, tbh. I know radiation is the worst element right next to magnetic

[wild rune]

magnetic is actually pretty good because the status effect increases damage to overguard

[coral crest]

but nyx is evil

[wild rune]

fairly certain the damage type of magnetic still kinda sucks though lmao

[fierce lark]

magnetic actually is the 2nd worst element to actively mod for

but it's still a great element

[coral crest]

it actually has a good utility effect

[trim hill]

I like the magnetic hybrid mods from 1999. Those are great

[fierce lark]

all of them except the melee one see pretty frequent use

[coral crest]

meanwhile radiation has its only soldier

[fierce lark]

meanwhile the radiation statuses from the murmur be like

[trim hill]

I use magnetic rush a fair bit. Mainly on CO melees

[fierce lark]

unfortunately for magnetic rush, it uh

does elemental damage that isn't electric, thus making your weapon worse lol

[abstract bison]

i just do corrosive blast instead

[trim hill]

I don't use electric

[wild rune]

ah yes the monarchy of melee influence

the tyranny, if you will

[fierce lark]

that just be how it is

[coral crest]

and their consort named melee duplicate

and their offspring named melee afflictions

[abstract bison]

melee influence, nerfing your damage to kill more enemies in a farming game

[wild rune]

and the royal jester named melee exposure

[smoky turret]

what frames use nukor the best?

[coral crest]

citrine

300% set crit chance and constant extra status

[trim hill]

Me wit a heavy-attack Thalys watching influence just do what guns do 🥺

[abstract bison]

there's a new kid on the block and his name is melee careen

[smoky turret]

i figured. is all the good builds with her around the augment with pets

[coral crest]

oh yeah harrow too

they both give flat crit chance

[abstract bison]

melee influence singlehandedly sent excalibur from B tier to A tier lmao

[coral crest]

any frame that is good at using nukor is also great at using sporothrix

[wild rune]

I saw that arcane and my brain processed it as melee karen at first

then I looked at it again

[fierce lark]

i dont actually think the absolute crit frames on low cc high cd weapons is that good anymore? enervate kinda took over that role

id be curious to know what's better between harrow encumber or like...rhino enervate

[trim hill]

What do I do with a heavy-attack EB build now?

[smoky turret]

do you have a citrine build per chance

[coral crest]

No, im still itching from those crystals

[abstract bison]

oh right afflictions also exists

[smoky turret]

😭

any builds on overframe for citrine that are actually good?

[trim hill]

Debilitate Sporothrix is acktchually really fun

[coral crest]

i have no idea, most people probably dont know how to use her

[abstract bison]

multishot AX-52 biotic rounds debilitate build

[coral crest]

due to the method of acquisition

[fierce lark]

using anything other than crux on sporothrix sounds painful

even with crux it's a little painful

[coral crest]

sporocrux

[trim hill]

Nah, Debilitate is great fun

[abstract bison]

EFV Jupiter with Debilitate

viral magnetic corrosive on one gun

[fierce lark]

also sporothrix already 1taps armored sp enemies well into the multi-hundreds, debilitate probably wouldn't do much

[coral crest]

basmu with debilitate. Double the combined elements

[abstract bison]

debilitate just makes it so that galv aptitude can act as your serration mod more reliably

and also all of the single element dot damage lol

[trim hill]

2 brillion status effects going off at once is much more fun than 1 beeg number imo

[abstract bison]

literally a net positive over mods like merciless and deadhead

[coral crest]

i think its about the approach

about how that status is applied

[trim hill]

I approach with malicious intent

[smoky turret]

it’s not that bad i hated getting kullervo more lol

[fierce lark]

the problem with debilitate is it has a limit to how much status it can apply

[wild rune]

I bought my second kullervo
I suffered through that farm once, I ain't doing it again

[trim hill]

Consider me debilitated then

[coral crest]

i feel like if it worked with beams with no limitations it wouldve been too much

[abstract bison]

it's the primary equivalent of secondary encumber

[fierce lark]

the whole "1 proc per damage instance" thing really sucks

[abstract bison]

the condition is to just dump more combined elements on the build

on an innately high status weapon

[fierce lark]

it's like...

a fun new thing to play around, but it'll never compete with standard viral heat

[abstract bison]

debilitate is viral heat cold toxin electric

[coral crest]

id rather have a fun niche arcane than "i am about to ruin the meta forever"

[wild rune]

sometimes, you just gotta break the monotony and do something dumb for fun

[fierce lark]

yeah, for sure

[abstract bison]

like my experimental 4 archon mod pure heat secondary encumber mesa build lmao

[trim hill]

As long as it's viable, it doesn't need to be the new meta

[fierce lark]

but i dont think it would be magically op if it functioned with beams

[coral crest]

im just glad that debilitate means they CAN make primary arcanes that arent boring as shit

secondaries have been stealing all the flavor for years

[abstract bison]

also, the new mods like primary debilitate and overcharge don't need enemy density to work, you can just shoot if you're stuck against one enemy in that scenario lol

[fierce lark]

can we at least agree that overcharge sucks and is uninteresting

[trim hill]

I don't play level cap stuff, and rarely stay any longer than 1hr in any mission. I'd rather ramp stacks up fast than maintain a larger potential pool

[viscid bane]

Which is better for slam build? Magistar, Sancti Magistrar or Sibear? I have Incarnon for the former and riven for the latter

[jade bluff]

how many can i sell this?

194 crit damage
225 crit chance
-41 fire rate

[fierce lark]

base crit magistar for 1shots

[abstract bison]

although, debilitate might be limited on bossfights since they don't reach 10 stacks

[trim hill]

I haven't tried it, but it seems pretty milquetoast

I do like the idea of multishot over base damage on arcanes tho, tbh

[abstract bison]

but still, during bossfights, there's not much enemy density goin on to proc deadhead or merciless and such

[fierce lark]

i have no idea what that mean

[trim hill]

Boring

[fierce lark]

i would like the idea of multishot if it didn't force me to not use abilities

there's some arcane battery stuff you can do with chroma to make it work in theory

but i have no idea if that would go in practice

[mighty flare]

base magistar

[abstract bison]

hunhullus weakspots and tether spawns are coded as headshots so it's easy to proc deadhead and do damage with acuity on those

[burnt lodge]

trash torid price

[trim hill]

I think it just forces you to keep a strong energy economy. Some frames already do that, so it's a no-brainer to slot that. But I don't like swapping arcanes on a build based on my frames because I'm lazy

[burnt lodge]

anw is debilitate not bugged now?

[fierce lark]

the sheer amount of required energy pretty much requires you abuse arcane battery

[jade bluff]

why? isnt good that stats?

[near vortex]

I haven't heard the word milquetoast in a while

[abstract bison]

milk toast

[trim hill]

I'm a boomer, sorry buddypal

[fierce lark]

minus fire rate is extremely bad

[burnt lodge]

no its not, torid riven market is oversaturated so either u sell it for trash price or groll/near groll rivs

and -FR is bad

[abstract bison]

i will never use the torid

never ever

nuh uh

[near vortex]

I think Garuda is a good abuser of Overcharge

[abstract bison]

Moug has a video on that

[astral tinsel]

maybe a bit higher? it's at least slottable until you roll it into something better

[near vortex]

Garuda can actually hit the 1k and can keep energy topped off

[abstract bison]

Cedo multishot that shoots 12 glaives

[burnt lodge]

why would someone even buy that only to roll it more? trash torid rivs are available and -FR is meh

[abstract bison]

absolutely insane

[burnt lodge]

or the buyer would need to be a 10 yo

[jade bluff]

ok, someone is offering me 500pl should i sell it?

[burnt lodge]

holy talk about 10 yo

just sell

[jade bluff]

sure?

[burnt lodge]

get rid of it

fr

[astral tinsel]

see?

[burnt lodge]

yeah i agree

[fierce lark]

one day i'll build my torid

[trim hill]

I won't

[burnt lodge]

cope at its peak js like me atleast i dun buy cope rivens

[hollow mantle]

Here's a few more clips of my Mesa doing silly numbers.

[astral tinsel]

I could see myself paying like 5-10% extra for having something usable while I roll

[trim hill]

Cope rivens give me something to live for

[atomic talon]

what shards should i put on caliban

i have a casting speed and ability strength RN

[trim hill]

5 casting speed

[burnt lodge]

🔥

[atomic talon]

that seems overkill

[trim hill]

Nah, make the big laser happen as quickly as possible. Feels awesome

[burnt lodge]

rolling cope rivs the best

[trim hill]

Do I misunderstand what you mean by cope?

[wild rune]

just give me one massive one-time-use laser cannon that cuts completely through the stage

-# no I'm not pilled with Kirby Air Riders, why would you say that aha

[burnt lodge]

yeah mb i didn't mean trash

[trim hill]

I meant rivens for weapons that aren't good enough without a riven. Like the riven helps me cope with the weapon being doodoo

[burnt lodge]

mine coping is with usable but less desirable rolls

[trim hill]

Oooooh, yours makes more sense tbh

[burnt lodge]

-sd on status wep

literall trash it is now

[trim hill]

Yeah, but that's only a tenner. You can roll that like 40 more times before hope begins to fade 😉

[coral crest]

like this?

[abstract bison]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-card-shake-ii-ch2-gif-25887089

[astral tinsel]

perfect for heat influence with shock trooper ig

[burnt lodge]

thats what am doing

gas influence with volt

[trim hill]

Pls someone tell me what I can replace Molt Reconstruct with? Other arcane is Circumvent

That's a braindead Wii Bowling build, btw, if you're wondering why it looks goofy as heh

[toxic cypress]

anyone got a ocucor build?

[knotty bronze]

Someone give me a build to kill the commandeered frames💔💔

[trim hill]

Viral + Heat Catabolyst doesn't go wrong. Just procc Cascadia Flare on enemies before throwing the reload-nade at the frame so that you can heat inherit big numbas

[fierce lark]

insert your viral heat incarnon and/or other high MR weapon of choice here

furis is a good one

[rapid prairie]

Do occucors tentacles count as heads hots?

[coral crest]

Pretty sure they can headshot but aim for center mass

Like other latching beams

[prime sequoia]

Should i use adaptation on my wisp build?

i'm wracking my brain because, yeah, adaptation + health regen = unkillable, however, her 2 has the bonus of making you invis, drawing attention, and invuln when you switch to it

is it one of those situations where i can, if i want to, but dont have to?

(2 corrosive and 3 strength tau shards)

[versed harbor]

she can hp tank fairly well with an adaptation setup but this only scales so far (around level 1k) so it depends what level you will be playing at

[hollow wave]

Anyone make a solid build for Uriel yet?

[void bane]

Are all riven mode for a specific weapon?

[quiet laurel]

yes

[prime sequoia]

hot shot for vinquibus, slot out at your pleasure

[prime sequoia]

so, 'good'

until i want to cascade

[twilit crest]

When in doubt use magistar

[versed harbor]

p much

[prime sequoia]

thanks

how you like my build tho?

[void bane]

Also can someone rate my rev build. Can nuke at the right level and inf energy

[coral crest]

Yes, except variants

Except except mutalist variants

[twilit crest]

It’s good I mean if you have too much energy can swap energize for efficiency

[coral crest]

So Hek, Kuva Hek and Vaykor Hek would share a riven

But quanta and mutalist quanta won't

[prime sequoia]

mutalist cernos and proboscis cernos?

[void bane]

I see,

[modest skiff]

is this gauss build good for beginner

[twilit crest]

ya try to get r0 arcane aegis

[void bane]

That could manage tbh

[coral crest]

Only Cernos and Rakta Cernos share a riven

Mutalist and Proboscis are separate from that and between each other

[prime sequoia]

thank you for the clarification

[gaunt narwhal]

is this good for beginner oraxia? What can be better? I have spare capacity and not sure what to use it on

open to farming mods as well as long as its not gonna require getting to endgame stuff, I have pretty much completed the base star chart

[knotty bronze]

What other enemies when it’s only the prime frames 😭😭

[silk prism]

What is the best build for excalver?

I spelled it wrong

[orchid vine]

is it worth getting two of these tau forged for oraxia to get the stacks up to 16 or does it cap before that?

[trim hill]

When you're just doing the boss fight, most Incarnon guns work, iirc. I always bring Phenmor, personally, but I guarantee it's not the best

[knotty bronze]

My burston doesn’t do anything it feels like

[foggy patrol]

Damn i could never play without 4th augment but you subsumed it???

[mighty flare]

no, oraxia doesn't really mass stack corrosive and iirc her spiders were bugged to not use these shards anyway

[kind marten]

Oh yeah, I don't want the bubble. Restricts movement.

I like bullet jumping.

[foggy patrol]

Opening and closing periodically is fine

[orchid vine]

is it worth skipping and just using more toxic ability damage shards then?

[mighty flare]

yeah

[foggy patrol]

I find nyx minions to be terribly underpowered i use a hound comp with full damage mods and make him invincible with 4 instead

[gaunt narwhal]

huh? I play oraxia and all the builds I've been looking at recommend 4 or 5 emerald archon shards whats up with that

[kind marten]

This build makes you essentially immortal regardless, as long as you're not afk, and have some form of healing.

[near vortex]

emerald toxin damage shards

[foggy patrol]

Never say never sometimes all it takes is a eximus charger with fart cloud

[mighty flare]

4/5 aren't necessary, just 2 or 3 are enough
the shards used should just be toxin damage

[kind marten]

She's not usable against Infestation or Corpus really, with that build. No armour to steal.

[gaunt narwhal]

oh lol I guess they're more complicated than I thought I had no idea shards can have different effects

haven't unlocked them yet

[orchid vine]

each shard has different options you can slot in, this is an example of what the green one offers

[gaunt narwhal]

ah ok yeah they've all been using the toxin damage one

[acoustic bluff]

I feel like we’re taking 5 extra steps to something she already did in her 4 ngl

[foggy patrol]

Is this legit still

[quiet laurel]

the tierlist looks right but also wrong but I cant quite put my finger on it

[blissful thistle]

What is the best?

[foggy patrol]

Like this image?

[quiet laurel]

heat kinda ahh after uriel spam
reverse heat inherit 🥀

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

That's just one frame

Gotta consider if it's for weapons or what

[foggy patrol]

What is urinal

[fierce lark]

it's very relevant if you play multiplayer, since ANY uriel will screw over your heat weapons

[coral crest]

You pee in it

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-10673976111485284091

[foggy patrol]

I'll spam you with it

What does uriral do i haven't been playing in last 6 months

[spiral pulsar]

harrow build pls? i keep dying and ppl tell that Is One of the best shieldgating frame

[novel bear]

One frame that is extremely common in pubs right now

[coral crest]

Oh fair

[quiet laurel]

you kinda just press 1 and have ez shield gate

[acoustic bluff]

Erm, use the 4, and use his 1

[fierce lark]

i would swap cold and toxin

[spiral pulsar]

thx

[fierce lark]

toxin hard counters an entire faction, cold is kinda bad

[quiet laurel]

cold nice utility but never mod it onto a dps weapon

[foggy patrol]

Cold gives more crit damage+cc

[fierce lark]

i know what it does

[foggy patrol]

Toxin is just a weak heat

[quiet laurel]

radiation deserves F tier tho

[fierce lark]

toxin is a weak heat that ignores shields, it's bis against corpus

[quiet laurel]

actually is there FF tier like there is an SS tier

[coral crest]

Ss for ASS

[quiet laurel]

cause radiation belongs there (independent of the new arcane we got)

[foggy patrol]

And something else

[fierce lark]

elec needs its own tier

[coral crest]

Do tell

Go on

[foggy patrol]

Nah nobody tops my king viral

Works in anywhere any in weapon

[fierce lark]

viral is run with electric most of the time on guns, and it's not run on melees because it gets shoved out of the way for electric lol

[foggy patrol]

Nobody runs electric without influence tho

[novel bear]

Corpus are already paper though

Heat is better single target for guns

[foggy patrol]

Shit i forgot magnets it's also solid b

[versed harbor]

elec is still good without influence rly its basically better heat

for dps anyway

[fierce lark]

it's still worse against corpus, if you're doing a corpus mission (like ascension, or mirror defense relevant grinds) toxin is bis

[foggy patrol]

I have viral+heat+magnetic on my tenet glaxion and it clears any faction

My lazy lazer

[novel bear]

Elec for aoe, heat for single target

Since heat stacks infinitely

[fierce lark]

heat is only better single target if the target is gonna live for a long time

[foggy patrol]

You don't get heat for damage alone tho 50% strip is more important than dot

[versed harbor]

infinite stacking isnt rly a benefit when nothing lives in current content fr

[novel bear]

Bosses still last for a good amount

Not the full minutes from before

But they don’t die instantly

[foggy patrol]

God is damage attunetion (whatever its called) still a thing?

[novel bear]

Yes

On bosses

[astral tinsel]

but it got rebalanced a bit

[fierce lark]

it was nerfed across the board

a lot of things had it removed altogether

bosses have less of it

[astral tinsel]

I think acolytes might be more durable now?

[fierce lark]

dunno, they still die in 1 slam so shrug

[novel bear]

Anything that doesn’t have a big health bar on the top of the screen doesn’t have attenuation

[foggy patrol]

Whatabout the fart monsters in skaldra maps

[fierce lark]

archons die in 0.3 seconds now so that's pretty cool

[novel bear]

No

[fierce lark]

scaldra dedicants die instantly now, so do techrot babaus

[foggy patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884672626574884924/1234583928006905896/image0-47-1-1.gif

[novel bear]

Necramechs are still tanky in eda

[fierce lark]

uhhh

[novel bear]

But they’re status capped, so no point to heat

[fierce lark]

relative to rank & file enemies yes

relative to before they die in like 3 seconds to a good buffed gun

[novel bear]

The survival necramechs?

[fierce lark]

yes

[novel bear]

Those don’t die in 3 seconds with a random loadout

[fierce lark]

obviously dependent on the loadout you get

[kind marten]

I mean, sure. To me though, it's way more fun having to actually work for it.

[fierce lark]

i dont think the evensong in my eda loadout will do particularly well

[acoustic bluff]

You’re practically immortal either way…?

[fierce lark]

but if you pull up with a pair of mesa's finest, survival eximus mechs still melt

[kind marten]

But you have to actually maintain it in my build, by keeping her 2 up.

[lost hull]

elements in b and c should be swapped i think or atleast just ice should go down one and the others in c up

[acoustic bluff]

How long do you have it for

[kind marten]

Think it's about 34 second duration from the last steal.

[quiet laurel]

so whats the build and build idea again

[acoustic bluff]

Bro

[quiet laurel]

like as a summary

[acoustic bluff]

So you have practical immortality for 34 seconds

Right?

[acoustic bluff]

@quiet laurel

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[fierce lark]

monke

[quiet laurel]

how does the health regen even work

via fallout? or am I missing smth about nyx kit

[foggy patrol]

5 per sometimes

[quiet laurel]

am very far from a nyx gooner

[foggy patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-yummers-the-boys-yummers-meme-yummers-meme-gif-10229506808836437820

[fierce lark]

eleanor gooner

[foggy patrol]

Who here also pulled off king arthur's sword

From stone

[mighty flare]

tesh

[kind marten]

Only if you don't bother sending out more bolts, which wouldn't be smart, as it's also her armour strip.

[kind marten]

Yeah, the universal orbs heal you enough if you're killing at a reasonable pace.

[quiet laurel]

might be a build

[acoustic bluff]

So like

[kind marten]

@quiet laurel This is the build.

[acoustic bluff]

You’re basically working harder for what the 4 provided

[lost hull]

all her powers deal radiation status to a degree and its part of her passive, might as well make use of it

[acoustic bluff]

@quiet laurel does 4 give you invuln after cast for a few seconds

I can’t remember

[kind marten]

But you get significantly more mobility, due to being able to actually move at normal speeds.

[quiet laurel]

HOLD YOUR HORSES

FISSURE SPAWNED

[lost hull]

her 4 has an aug that turns it into a channelled that lets you use weapons too

[acoustic bluff]

It’s like 6 seconds of invuln or sum

[quiet laurel]

time to host peristence nyx only run

[abstract bison]

after experimenting with persistence on umbra and stacking DR, simply shieldgating with 1 augur mod and negative efficiency from blind range is still better

[lost hull]

it use to have a drain partly based off damage taken but now its a flat drain that scales like normal channelled abilities

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-laptop-drake-gif-21716481

[lost hull]

its not worth it to put persistence on nyx

[abstract bison]

imagine removing shields on a warframe super cringe

[acoustic bluff]

Truth bait

[abstract bison]

Truth influence

[kind marten]

I love Persistence on Nyx.

[lost hull]

persistence nekros is where its at ;p

[quiet laurel]

persistence hildryn

[kind marten]

Considering Persistence Garuda.

[quiet laurel]

fresh moug build out the factory

[kind marten]

Already got Persistence Saryn and Wisp.

[abstract bison]

say what you want about Arcane Energize but it just works

[lost hull]

id suggest blessing and the umbra set, that should set you were you are functionally immortal when using her heal

[mighty flare]

Persistence can “work” on squishier frames but no one wants to use arcane blessing 😭

[coral crest]

They are more durable but theres no longer a damage cap

[acoustic bluff]

Why wisp?

[abstract bison]

you can make persistence work on 1k health but you just have to make that amount super hard with DR

[quiet laurel]

you are asking about wisp? 😭

we have bigger exolizers to clear brochinski

[lost hull]

ive thought about it on a gun saryn with the toxin heal shard

[kind marten]

Yeah, Triple Umbral would definitely be the play. Not sure I'd need Blessing, we'll see.

[abstract bison]

and even then, it will still feel like shieldgating but with health on higher lvl enemies

[acoustic bluff]

People just can’t play saryn, I’ve come to terms with that ngl

[kind marten]

Why not?

[abstract bison]

so why not stick with shieldgating know what i mean

[coral crest]

molting away the problems

[kind marten]

Persistence Saryn with Gloom is awesome. The spores feed you.

[acoustic bluff]

Do you know what her 2 does

[kind marten]

Wisp?

[acoustic bluff]

Yes

[lost hull]

theres a threshold that needs to be passed , blessing might or might not be it depending on your strength total as well

[kind marten]

Don't remember which her two is, but I have played her a bit.

[hushed harbor]

i need a really fun fire-themed loadout for my ember any ideas

[acoustic bluff]

Sending out the ghost

[kind marten]

500 health is the cap, so technically you could get away with 600, if you were skilled enough.

[lost hull]

its the ghost that can use her 3 and you can teleport to

[kind marten]

Oh yeah, invisibility on demand.

[acoustic bluff]

Do you know what it actually gives

[abstract bison]

i mean, it's excalibur, the slash dash let's you shieldgate by spending energy and you're invunerable during the animation

although i will say that persistence and DR stacking on him lets him actually use guns more comfortably lol

[kind marten]

What, the invulnerability?

[acoustic bluff]

Built in rolling guard with no cooldown mhm

[kind marten]

I don't like rolling guard anyways.

[acoustic bluff]

Well it’s one of the best survivability abilities in the game, so why bother with persistence when you can just do that by clicking her 2nd ability?

[high pasture]

also could just take advantage of her passive

[kind marten]

Because I like health tanking.

[acoustic bluff]

I mean, whatever floats your boat I guess lol

[coral crest]

haha

wisp. floats.

[kind marten]

Wisp is a boat?

[lost hull]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-butt-slap-boat-gif-17213641

[quiet laurel]

I'm blaming my bad rolling luck on all of builds discussion

[coral crest]

my lawyer is preventing me from continuing this joke

[kind marten]

[proud anchor]

If you want to be funny, you could use arcane eruption to keep knocking down everything in 40m of you

[coral crest]

30m

no line of sight checks as well

[lost hull]

....... eruption afflictions zenistar......

[proud anchor]

Thanks for the correction @coral crest

[hushed harbor]

hmm, i do kinda need energize tho

and i'd rather not drop molt augmented

[prime sonnet]

Can I get a roathe and harrow build

[proud anchor]

You could substitute augur reach for equilibrium
And you do get 5% extra power strength for every enemy set on fire near you from her passive

[hushed harbor]

and at the same time i can already inflict blast in 2 different ways

fire blast knocks enemies over a lot

there are so many things i need to potato

ughhh

[undone pier]

My skiajati build is done

[proven bough]

Yo sup guys can u tell me whats the best nuke ever high dmg with high range good for everything ? Ty all “if u have any opinion just say it i will see what yall think ”

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[novel bear]

Sevagoth

[quick quartz]

Is a Tauforged Emerald shard enough or should I rather use 2 emerald shards to get the full armor strip?

[twilit crest]

So true

[frigid river]

Equinox is tough but so fun imo

[novel bear]

1 is enough

Overkill, even, after armor rework

[jovial lion]

guys what subsume would u suggest and what mod should i remove to add the second augment

im gonna subusme over his 1 btw

[spiral swift]

i really enjoy koumei (only for endurance really but i enjoy endurance)… i kind of thought using harmony with her would be viable because of her passive easily building status… first question was is it going to be viable or will the passive basically have no effect? Second was if it is viable which mods should i go for (im still pretty early into the game so i havent gotten access to all of them and i wanted to know which ones i should try to find) anyway sorry for being so long winded thanks for any help! Also the other weapons i was thinking of using were Epitaph and Cedo (hopefully eventually prime)

[novel bear]

13 corrosive stacks reduces 2700 armor to 54
15% damage reduction, or a 1.18 ehp multiplier
A second tauforged emerald is very little benefit

[novel bear]

No shield of shadows?
That will be more effective than health conversion and adaptation combined

[frigid river]

Nourish

[jovial lion]

just said i forgot to add the augments

[frigid river]

Real

[jovial lion]

imagine it has shield of shadows and despoil

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884390484552871958/1349197755855405076/1336874332227637368.gif

[novel bear]

You don’t need despoil, since equilibrium makes desecrate essentially free

[jovial lion]

its more of a comfy thing tbf

this is how i left it now

[frigid river]

He's kind of bad dps whise but a solid tank

[quick quartz]

ty good to know, it's just that from my last level cap run I noticed how little my damage is because of the armor damage reduction of enemies (30k vs 900k damage) so I'm looking for the best armor strip without helminth but I'm not sure which to chose

[novel bear]

Helios with vicious bond is pretty effective

Or corrosive on a good priming sentinel

[quick quartz]

seems like sentinels are the way to go then, was trying my best to make an armor strip panzer build but the ai is just way to inconsistent when the game flow is so much faster

[novel bear]

Panzer is decent, the quills proc vicious bond I think

[quick quartz]

yeah sometimes it wipes instantly all their armor but other times you barely notice it

[dusk oracle]

hey y'all! joined to get some opinions, I've had this same Dante build for gosh knows how long, and after many updates I've wondered if there's anything I can change on it. open to suggestions!

[celest thicket]

Does the status immunity from carnis carapace cleanse status or just makes you immune to new ones?

[jovial lion]

shield build on a health tank

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-wtf-wtf-gif-wtf-meme-gif-14632630448558724400

[frigid river]

It's for the hp drain mod

[trim sparrow]

Arcane expertise is a secret buff to Rhino - Wow!

[frigid river]

Hold up

[trim sparrow]

this is the actual build behind that

the 20 mil came after getting the double strength from a relic so it looked really funny - normally you get about 5 mil overguard from this. Uses madurai for sling strength too

[jovial lion]

the despoil augment??

[onyx flare]

I plan to upgrade target cracker and heated charge, is this build anything or no? its regulators

heat for orange shards

[half hound]

I just got Yareli Prime any builds I can take to high steel path and any tips

[mighty flare]

if you're using crit shards, then drop enervate for flare/fortifier

[jovial lion]

made a minor change on my nekros, if someone has tried the strain set could let me know if its actually good xd

[mighty flare]

its bad

[jovial lion]

oh

[onyx flare]

why wouldnt I want even more crit?

[quick quartz]

enervate locks you to base red crits if I remember correctly

[mighty flare]

with modded & external crit chance you get an insignificant amount from enervate
enervate is used on regulators when you have nothing

[mighty flare]

what?

[onyx flare]

oh wow really?

[mighty flare]

no this is incorrect

[quick quartz]

not sure don't take me fopr granted

[quiet laurel]

mr misinformation

[onyx flare]

hmm I see

[mighty flare]

why say it then

😭

[willow otter]

It creeps your Crit Rate to reds, then after a certain amount of red Crits it resets

At max, 6 Red Crits and it resets

[quick quartz]

because I had in mind that it didn#t allow you to have red crits with exclamation marks anymore but mixed it up probably

[willow otter]

Very good in Buva Bukor

[novel bear]

Orange

[onyx flare]

also if I have 2 tau orange shards does the max crit get increased too?

[novel bear]

You can get red crits from enervate with certain interactions, usually aoe

But it resets from orange crits

[willow otter]

Whoops, you're right. Thought big was reds

Kinda wish the wording was less awkward when it comes to crits

[onyx flare]

is that why I see ppl with 5 orange archons?

[mighty flare]

your final crit chance (before enervate) will increase, which means you'll get even less value from it

[novel bear]

I get why they can’t put color in the description, but I’m not sure there’s a single other place in game where they label the crit chance the way they do in enervate

[onyx flare]

so, I should swap enervate and stack orange shards instead

got it, i think

[willow otter]

There is, but overall crit wording and such is just weird. Off topic tangent over

[mighty flare]

yeah like i said, swap to flare/fortifier

[onyx flare]

oki, thanks!

[novel bear]

Fortifier over flare, you already have a lot of base damage on that build

[onyx flare]

is galv shot even good in a build like this?

or should I also look to swap that

[kind void]

resident nidus main is here if anyone has any questions they want to ask

[mighty flare]

It’s one of the best mod you can use on the regulators

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

Which pet and why

[jovial lion]

guys streamline with blind rage nono or could work, it did counter the cost a ton tho ngl

[willow otter]

I mean it'd be frame dependent, mainly how much does that frame care about efficiency

[frigid river]

I believe so just makes me more tanky

[novel bear]

Shield of shadows and adaptation both apply to shields, makes sense to me

If you put on health conversion, it would be different, but you didn’t

[coral crest]

Im going to scream

Onos is not hitting it for me but it's a critical fashion piece

I need a godroll riven and a dream

[jovial lion]

im building nekros

the idea got discarted tho

went for more range instead

these r the stats rn

got a free slot to fill up yet idk what to put tho

continuity prime barely gets past the capacity so that is discarted

[wild rune]

fun fact, if you pair the Onos, Ruvox, and Frakta Shoulder Guard together, it looks like an Atlas rocket launcher from Borderlands 3

[coral crest]

Holy shit I just checked and you're right

But also

I need to make Onos work

At least better than it already does

[woeful crest]

Where does mesa usually aim with her 4th?
I was wondering. If she always aimed for the head, maybe she would be infinitely invisible with cyte-09's ability

[coral crest]

Evil weapon

[coral crest]

It's center mass

Favorable for techrot and some infested because that's where their weak spots usually are

[wild rune]

she targets central mass, dealing damage to whichever body part it hits first
if the head is in the way, it headshots

[coral crest]

Bullets so strong they ignore void bubbles

[novel bear]

Disposition is .8, not even a riven will save it

[coral crest]

Hey I do have a decent riven

It took me 90 rolls but I have it

🥲

[novel bear]

Good luck with gambling I guess

[coral crest]

It does the job, I just need to tinker with it more

Naiture provided an exceptional piece of information

[wild rune]

[coral crest]

if only there were more weapons that are as visually striking as this fashion piece

[tender pecan]

uhh i feel like the only bad part of this is the negative puncture but idk, it was better than the last roll i had

[candid epoch]

Anyone have a build for ember Prime

[willow otter]

The neg puncture is actually very good

It means you have a higher rate of status for Slash/Viral/Whatever the hell else you decide to put on.

[tender pecan]

wait really?

[willow otter]

Ye, a lot of weapon Rivens tend not to mind -Impact or -Puncture since it lowers the chance of their status

So essentially you got double Crit and a bit of a damage down

[willow otter]

Actually nevermind, just checked and Tox is mostly Puncture damage. That riven is cooked

[tender pecan]

welp

i’m out of kuva anyways

[jovial lion]

i keep going around with this thing idk what to fill the 2 slots with

was thinking of adding a couple of shards in duration so dont really need to mod that

[summer trout]

is 70p for a rank 6 archon vitality scam or not?

[velvet pulsar]

I've seen u somewhere (just now) before.

[coral crest]

checks out with the market price at the moment

[summer trout]

what abt 35 for a rank 0?

[coral crest]

35-40 sounds about right

[jovial lion]

i have been discovered

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177335124967313460/1425114552080793701/togif-1-1.gif

[oblique dust]

Which weapons is Shotgun Vendetta BIS on?

[kind void]

Doesn’t matter. Outside of cosmetic looks they all have merits. I go for alt vulp because it lets me lose less stacks at level cap

[coral crest]

Alt?

[pallid adder]

I’m about as far from an expert as you could possibly be but it’s not a write off right?

[willow otter]

No riven is a write off if you have Kuva

[pallid adder]

The damage is puncture but there’s also the frenzy buff which gives you +100% toxic on headshot

And the elemental mods will scale off the damage of the bullet before the -puncture reduction

If someone more knowledgeable wants to correct me here please do haha

[idle grotto]

Hello , is the only way to sped up a slam attack animation with a speed mod?

[fathom sky]

Pretty much, but you can cancel the animation with a roll anyway so just do that

[jovial lion]

yeah no i cant come up with anything else, idk if anyone would have suggestions on what to add

[west egret]

Useless information! MELEE CAREEN works addictive with Shivering contagion!

[wraith sinew]

this good with 75% status damage from galv elementalist?

[high raven]

So I did the sancti magistar for incarnon form and idk what build to use

[jovial lion]

for much as many people hate or find boring this playstyle

magistar is a slam weapon

so u would want to build it around thay

[high raven]

I see thanks

[cedar cedar]

Does multishot effect beam weapons like Gaze kitgun?

[mighty flare]

Yes

[cedar cedar]

So should I keep the multishot roll for it or grab the damage roll?

[mighty flare]

Multishot

[granite mantle]

any advice? i want to do more dmg with latron prime

[old marsh]

u dont need merciless when u have cannonade.

u can go for crux

or if u drop cannonade, u wanna get some fire rate or make viral heat

also i just noticed, u dont have Double Tap. its a really good mod. use it

[obtuse remnant]

I know i need better frame arcanes but thats what i have atm plus im running primarily merciless rank 2 on Nataruk so far i manage to get into SP and im having fun

[celest thicket]

Chroma with persistence build, has 1k health, 1200 with elemental ward

Arcane Grace or Arcane Reaper?

[old marsh]

Blessing for long missions. Grace/Avenger for shorter

Altho I am not sure if Chroma should be using Persistence even in SP unless u r going for lvl cap. He has enough DR to not need Persistence in SP

[celest thicket]

I like the basically infinite energy because i am always taking health damage

But thanks for the tips

[old marsh]

I personally didn’t like Persistence on any shield frames. Not even Grendel. Hopefully next year, the we get some health tanking update that Rebb mentioned

[celest thicket]

Absolutely feels like bandaid, im excited for next year, but for now, we experiment

[mighty flare]

Run raw viral on the Nataruk, dot builds are doomed with hydroid

[celest thicket]

Im also hoping a for a chroma rework, he was my first prime and still my top 2 favorite frames, but damn is he a glorified roar

[celest thicket]

Why so ?

[jovial lion]

i think u got the tanks inverted cuz grendel aint a shieldtank no matter how u look at him

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-stare-wtf-wtf-gif-wtf-meme-gif-14632630448558724400

[fair sphinx]

Trying to make coda mire into a raw weapon so i actually something for the tank boss in Temporal archimedea ...

😭

at least i did 15% of the damage so yay ?

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[old marsh]

Pure toxin, correct?

[fair sphinx]

Nah, no. mine is heat innate so i just went with gas since the temporal archemdia this time is techrot

[old marsh]

Alr. Gas works too but it is better for crowds imo.

[jovial lion]

running shieldgate on frames that r meant to be played with health just doesnt make sense, its like looking at those valkyr builds that completly ignore her kit that has a shit ton of armor, deathgate and extreme healing from just hitting a single enemy

[old marsh]

My dude. You interpreted the whole thing incorrectly. U might wanna reread what I wrote. Never ever did I imply Grendel is a shield gating frame.

[jovial lion]

u literally said u didnt like it on any shield frame, then followed this sentence with "not even grendel" which by the wording and following right after the dot instead of separating it implies that this is still reffering directly to the sentence before

[old marsh]

plz. Go to school. Learn to read. English comprehension is important

[near snow]

do summoner's wraith apply to uriel's ability to increase his ability strength

[jovial lion]

im a librarian and archivist btw

https://tenor.com/view/strawberry-cat-domgcat-donkeycat-free-robux-vbucks-gif-9547401608137840178

[jovial lion]

pretty sure the wiki has a list of summons

not sure if it was updated with the new stuff but i guess it should be by now

[near snow]

it said increase summon damage sooo like is it for his ability or the summon attacking or both

[jovial lion]

oh that

no its just the summons not whatever else the ability has

[near snow]

awh alright gotcha

thanks bro

[jovial lion]

like if the dsmage it shows comes from the summons then yes it would increase it, but if the damage is from the warframe then it wont be affected

[near snow]

Thanks man, and 1 more question. Since uriel drop a shit ton of orbs is it alr if i dont use equilibrium to sustain

[jovial lion]

i mean thats more down to personal prefference tbh

i dont have uriel so idk how he works n all that but u could try it out

[near snow]

alright cuz i wanna replace it for smth else

[jovial lion]

first do a quick run without equi and see how it feels, then if u think the energy sustain is too low u could try it out

[near snow]

alr i ma go try it out

[jovial lion]

oh btw did a quick check and yes the wiki says that the 3 demons that uriel has can be affected by summoners wrath so u good

[near snow]

oh alright thank you

[mighty flare]

They apply but it’s not very important because they’re not meant for dmg
Uriel uses growing power or corrosive projection

[grim pivot]

whats better, 13.5 cd with 428 cc or 14.4 cd with 344 cc

[mighty flare]

Hydroid gives his weapons a lot of corrosive elemental damage which ruins status weighting

[near snow]

im using growing power, uhh current build is, i need to rank em up tho

[mighty flare]

Swap umbral intensify for archon intensify since they work on the demons
Yeah max up everything

IMO, Camisado is pretty bad, rather use the new arcane concentration

[near snow]

what so basically 60% ability strength

[mighty flare]

Yeah

[near snow]

welp i gotta go grind stocks

[near vortex]

What are some funny weapons to run Overcharge on

[near snow]

i mean it works good i stack it up and use it for my 4th

idk if i need duration icl

[mighty flare]

Duration is important stat for Uriel

Though you could just shard it instead so do as you please

[bronze bay]

Is Primary debilitate worth running with the Coda Hema?

I figure the additional status effects would pair well with the multiplicative gun condition overload.

Especially since it doesn't have any IPS of its own by base.

Unfortunately I haven't rolled a Hema riven so I've made due without one.

[near snow]

i plan on doing that, alright

[toxic cypress]

what should i change on this build? besides riv reroll im broke on kuva lol and endo

[grim pivot]

still missing vig supplies but its basically 15.3 cd with 464 cc
dunno if its better than 16.4 cd with 388 cc

[fierce lark]

assuming no external crit buffs, first one is better

it's pretty easy to calculate too. convert the crit chance to a decimel (100% = 1.00), add 1, then multiply it by crit damage

[spare geyser]

Any solid Nova builds?

[lament wedge]

Which one is better

[fierce lark]

right

[latent latch]

What is a good hate build

[granite mantle]

so close...

what should i pick?

[hard dove]

left obv

idk maybe you could try to scam in TC with the right one

[granite mantle]

what stats are btter for dual toxo?

[hard dove]

the same one as the right just with a good negative

[granite mantle]

ohh, alr

time to farm kuva

[fierce lark]

left one is really funny

it's good, but that much - ammo max makes it unusable i think

[hard dove]

well toxocyst have infinite ammo using its gimmick anyway

[fierce lark]

unless you can consistently charge incarnon with 1 mag

oh?

[hard dove]

yuh

kinda like knell but imbue the gun with tox and add fr as wwell

[granite mantle]

0 ammo maximum :0

[fierce lark]

oh my dumbass is looking for an evo, it's just a base gun perk

how are you supposed to build this gun anyways? has to just be normal corroheat or viral heat/elec

[hard dove]

deadhead, galv scope, elec

the gun already imbues tox that combine with modded elec to make tox

this thing is a raw dmg st (and aoe) gun

the status isnt something to write home about

[fierce lark]

i figured it would still run a damage element but it sounds less useful when you're forced to add +100% tox

[hard dove]

+tox is almost nvr a bad thing

it combines to make all the good element

corro, viral, etc

[fierce lark]

if the gun works with just raw dmg sure

[granite mantle]

one more thing, what do you think abt this one build?

for torid

[fierce lark]

it looks like a corroblast torid, not much to add

[near vortex]

Torid 👍

[granite mantle]

or this 1, idk i just lookup for builds without understanding how it really works

[rancid mirage]

intead of running two base dmg replace either arcane or serration with something else

[fierce lark]

what's on the rivens

[rancid mirage]

def replace serration w vital sense

[fierce lark]

the fact that you've turned your dtox into a knell is still really really funny

reverse knell almost

[hard dove]

left is really good

[granite mantle]

ok! 😄

[hard dove]

can drop convulsion there in the build

[fierce lark]

they're dif rivens rei

[rancid mirage]

ammo max might not be a problem since most dual tox users use incarnon

[near vortex]

Llenk

[hard dove]

oh thats torid 🥀

[fierce lark]

drop high voltage for fire rate, unless you have it from reinforced bond or your warframe

[near vortex]

yeah you don't need voltage with that riven

[rancid mirage]

what element you run on gun depends a lot on warframe

[near vortex]

gaptitude kinda goated

[hard dove]

not on torid tho

[fierce lark]

aptitude doesn't work properly on torid

like most incarnons

[granite mantle]

i use a lot nova with hot shot, and i have reinforcement to fire rate 😄

[fierce lark]

if you have reinforced bond you can run elementalist/hammer shot instead

[rancid mirage]

It be funny to run convulsion, shock trooper, cyte 09 electric ammo + eletric riven + purple shard

[hard dove]

incarnon not working with energize munition is also criminal

[granite mantle]

nova

[rancid mirage]

js go full gyre

[hard dove]

like cmon it wont even be game breaking strong

[fierce lark]

gyre except you don't have to drop your balls

[rancid mirage]

Doesnt nova prime enemy? Do you need corrosive with it?

I forgot what her 4 does exactly

[hard dove]

none of nova kit really reduce armor besides fire proc from neutron star

[rancid mirage]

ah that was it

[hard dove]

slow or speed depending on tap/hold and dmg vulnrability

or a debuff of that type

[rancid mirage]

yea I think you js run viral over corrosive on nova or is corrosive better?

[granite mantle]

it should be brief respite but i dont farm it yet and dont want to buy it

[hard dove]

what on gun?

unless youre using nourish it depends on the actual gun

[rancid mirage]

he said hes using torid w nova

[granite mantle]

i use latron with nova and mag, torid with saryn, i just say i use mostly nova, no that i use her with torid...

[rancid mirage]

honestly I think it also depends on his companion but I think magnetic heat is probably best over corrosive blast for general

[near vortex]

Torid with Nova when the Zariman incarnons and Kuva Sobek exist 🥀

Molecular Prime explosions retriggering Acid Shells or inheriting Devouring Attrition is so funny

[hard dove]

which incarnon have devouring attrition again? all of em?

[near vortex]

All the ranged ones, yeah

[rancid mirage]

I dont rlly like any zariman incarnon besides laetum

[fervent rapids]

The guns Cavalero sells

[granite mantle]

[near vortex]

Felarx, laetum and Phenmor all have devouring Attrition

[granite mantle]

felarx its good? i get a riv and doesnt even know if its good or what should i look for in it

[hard dove]

very good

absurdly good really

such strong st dmg

[granite mantle]

in a riven what should i look for

[near vortex]

minus crit chance

[hard dove]

min crit

[hushed harbor]

how does radiation work with status damage

[hard dove]

then dmg + ms

[fervent rapids]

deals no status damage

[hushed harbor]

i see

[granite mantle]

ok ! 😄

[fervent rapids]

status damage only affects slash, heat, toxin, gas, electricity and blast

[hushed harbor]

how well does Nyx work with Secondary Irradiate and that Arcane that inflicts both of the elements of the combined proc

are they both secondary arcanes

[rancid mirage]

It be cool if boosting radiation w more status dmg increases team attk dmg

[fervent rapids]

No, latter is Primary Debilitate

[hushed harbor]

so that new SMG with Secondary Irradiate, or Epitaph, and Trumna or Cedo with Debilitate

[near vortex]

I'm still looking for funny options to run Overcharge on

[hushed harbor]

and Melee Influence melee

like Syam or Okina

[rancid mirage]

Chroma?

[hushed harbor]

i might do Corufell

[near vortex]

Primary, not frame

I already have Garuda in mind

[hushed harbor]

what does overcharge do again

[near vortex]

Vadarya I think could be funny

[rancid mirage]

well that arcane depends a lot on frame dont you think?

[near vortex]

Up to 350% Multishot while above 90% energy

[hushed harbor]

i LOVE Vadarya, i use it with Gyre + Shock Trooper + 5 Tauforged Purple Shards

Redirection, Shield Charger, Arcane Aegis

[granite mantle]

one more question, what should i look for in a latron riv?

[hushed harbor]

all of the purple shards are the electricity dmg for primaries

i’m hitting 11 digits pretty often

i need more red crits tho

i’m not getting enough

i’ll share my Gyre and Vadarya builds in a couple mins

i use cathode current and the 1 augment as well

stand in the shock bubble thing, and snipe everything with a bunch of range on my R

[burnt lodge]

Should be slottable

Cc cd ms tox dmg (3 of these stats) with harmless neg like zoom/rec/damage-to-infested/punc(if not doing the punc evo)

[frosty fjord]

on latron specifically i probably wouldn't take a -punc even without the evo

just cus then if you do wanna use the punc evo its just a hindrance

[burnt lodge]

I mean depends on the build they are doing ig still even I wouldn't prefer -punc

-Ammo is okay I believe

-Mag is bad

[frosty fjord]

yeah -ammo max is whatever

[burnt lodge]

Neither of them are good but left ig

-99% ammo max

Lol

[granite mantle]

250% cc + reload speed, -infested dm

[burnt lodge]

@granite mantle

[granite mantle]

thanks

[burnt lodge]

Pfs is projectile speed, PT is punch through

[hushed harbor]

i will replace the redirection with primed redirection soon once i buy it, but any notes?

[vague rock]

Does anyone have a build for vauban that works well in steel path

[slow sable]

does anyone have a speedrun titania build

[severe bough]

Go for lazy gating fast deflection vigilante vigor and cata shields
Or active gating via brespite/augur mod + cata shields

I assume u playing platformer not caster
Go for high range decent str
Neutral/pos duration ( i often stay neutral duration cuz the only thing i need to recast are nourish and her 1 )

Also gyre likes grouping mabye bring a nauti with cordon

And Would prop play 1 cast speed shard on her

[fierce lark]

im prob gonna swap something for pcont at some point, recasting 1 3 times with neutral duration is unpleasant

[severe bough]

Focus on high range
Some str
Some duration
His flechette orbs scale and vig swap/archane also apply aswell as Nourish does ideally replace that with his 3
His 4 gives armor strip aswell and pulls enemys together and for survivalbilty use the standard shield gating setup

[severe bough]

Tbf found it pretty easy to keep up if its build up once but thats prop just pers pref

A fellow chorma in a cascade

Thats new

[vagrant lagoon]

Yo this sybaris prime incarnon build valid or nah

[astral tinsel]

you're missing crit damage

[vagrant lagoon]

What do i replace

[astral tinsel]

I'd go with shred

unless you really make use of the punchthrough a lot

[vagrant lagoon]

What if i replace Serration with Primed cryo rounds and use primary frostbite

[astral tinsel]

could work

[gentle swallow]

baby tenno here
i'm trying to build kuva kohm but it's hard, i made this after i saw some people on reddit say i should stack tons of status effects, but i still struggle to clear level 200 enemies with it unless i already have the galvanized mods stacked
i use it currently on wisp and gauss, and uriel when i get him
anyone can help giving suggestions to it ?
(innate element is 50% magnetic)

[burnt lodge]

Kohmed

[grim pivot]

did i cook

15.3x cd / 464%cc

can go into tier 6

[ashen osprey]

hmm which one is better? 🤔

[grim pivot]

i dont use the torid nor know what makes it special, but id go with right, bigger numbers, and an ok negative

also im a gauss guy so attack speed aint shit to me

[trim hill]

How does one play Oraxia? She just seems like a more complicated and less versatile Saryn to me

[fierce lark]

she is a more versatile less powerful saryn

[fierce lark]

you're missing viral

unless you're playing with subsumed nourish, viral status is the biggest buff any gun can get

2x damage vulnerability with just 1 stack, 4.25x with max stacks

corrosive blast is a thing but it's more for guns that don't need viral to kill everything (cough torid)

and viral + heat/elec is just generally good against everything

swap the mods around to make viral+elec/heat, and drop elementalist & heat/elec for ravage and critical decel

[hushed mauve]

Does anyone know if mecha mods work if you don't have a kubrow equiped, but have the mods on the warframe?

[ivory stirrup]

does anyone here know what i need to build on my uriel i js got him and i really like his playstyle

[versed harbor]

it wont mark enemies

[hushed mauve]

I see so you really need to have a kubrow equiped, thx for the info

[versed harbor]

even if it did you would want as much of the set as possible tbh mecha set is broken

[trim hill]

More versatile as in survivability? Because I don't see as much outside synergy with her as I see with Saryn. Don't get me wrong, her abilities feel awesome, just that they seem to be both toxin-based weapon platforms, with Saryn also having corrosive and viral built in. I just levelled Oraxia last night, just trying to find her place in my arsenal is all

[near crater]

Is this good so far? I think I about adding hammer shot to the last slot. Vermisplicer kitgun

[trim hill]

Is this Vermisplicer? The GOAT?

[near crater]

Yeah

[trim hill]

Add some punch thru

[near crater]

Combined with rift torrent and terrify, it shreds sp eximus

[trim hill]

The punch thru tentacles can chain off of other enemies as well as first-hit targets. You'll clear rooms in your sleep

[near crater]

Oh and primary damage for WF arcane

[near crater]

Wait but they already do that

Does punch through affect more enemies around the target?

[trim hill]

Yeah, your first enemy will chain, and then the enemy behind the first enemy (punched thru) will start a second chain

[near crater]

Oh so AFTER the first split then?

[trim hill]

Oh yeah

[near crater]

Oh damn

[trim hill]

Vermisplicer is so sick

[fierce lark]

more as in just things she can do

definitely less weapon versatility as she can't buff incarnons, but she's mobile, has crowd control + damage vulnerability, has summons, kind of has an ability nuke?

oh and stealth

[coral crest]

Here's my professional illustration on how punch through works for chained beams

[near crater]

Well I can only add vig armaments now. I have split chamber (galv chamber already in), and vig armaments

Wait I'm stupid

[fierce lark]

i definitely don't think oraxia is "better" by any stretch, but she's more flexible in terms of playstyle

[coral crest]

And this is how Boar incarnon works with PT

Cursed weapon

[trim hill]

Imo, Oraxia's definitely more fun to play, but you just can't argue with Saryn's results

[fierce lark]

also it's way easier to live as oraxia

3k+ health and near perma invisibility hard to argue

[coral crest]

Oraxia has more legs, it puts her higher on the list

[near crater]

Okay so vig offense, metal auger, and shred are my options. Of these, which one?

[coral crest]

Primed Shred would've probably been ideal

But it's Primed Shred

[near crater]

Unfortunately don't have it

[fierce lark]

is there some kitgun nuance that explains why you're running pure viral

[near crater]

Already has toxin so why not?

[green solstice]

how much worth is running that delibrate arcane on a sobek?

last week I saw around many talking about running it with sobek or beams etc

but there soemthing already bothering me, that blast wont be affected by this

[fierce lark]

beam weapons tend to function a lot better as status dps

meaning viral + heat

[jovial lion]

the idea of deliberate tho is use combined elements

stuff like corrosive or magnetic for example which stack and after dont got much of any use

[near crater]

Where do I place heat mod though?

[coral crest]

It's debilitate

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-loser-tiny-kitten-explode-gif-15623895175038521381

[jovial lion]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/980793801549430804/1051979809040896130/1641348159927.gif

[near crater]

https://tenor.com/view/verycat-cateat-gif-7339469281817108398

[fierce lark]

oh i see merciless

[coral crest]

Yeah blast is not v good with Debilitate

[near crater]

Thought about running with deadhead but isn't maxed

[green solstice]

well I dont think that debilitate would be very useful on a sobek or my head cant make a build around

[coral crest]

Can sobek actually let you stack enough combined elements to proc debilitate?

If you're not using a combined element buffer

[green solstice]

for me is sobek hits too hard to function properly

[fierce lark]

nvm two diff convos

[coral crest]

You got yourself an answer

[near crater]

This, when I try to ask something in general chat

[coral crest]

Platonic ideal of Debilitate is EFV Jupiter alt fire

11 multishot at base and forced corrosive per pellet

And probably bubonico because of the sheer amount of status vomit it has

[green solstice]

indeed its my answer

something like phantasma is sure a good example what to try out

I just think the people who think making a corro based sobek to try make that arcane useful somehow, make a major mistake that the setup is already busted

[coral crest]

Wrong mindset

People see "THIS ARCANE IS GOOD" and will immediately try slapping it on everything that has a combo element somewhere like it's the next melee influence

[solemn plaza]

what should i put in this last slot? im split between archon instensify, umbral, or blind rage

[green solstice]

blind rage cuz you have shroom that gice energy

[fierce lark]

at the risk of being annoying, is there any reason primary vermisplicer shouldn't just run this

[jovial lion]

nokko has good energy generation so blind rage wouldbt be a big deal

[near crater]

For most guns, pri merciless is the option for my primaries. But for the obscene magazine of 317 of my trumna p, pri plated round is the better option

[coral crest]

Plated round Quellor my beloved

[near crater]

It's just such a damn torture to get through ynahmsayin

[solemn plaza]

thank you both

[green solstice]

so I wanna try to improve tenet glaxion around

what stats is on a riven good? and what is there to change to run with and without frost

[ruby igloo]

Anyone got some good wisp builds for damage? I’ve got a goofy high energy build but but that doesn’t work in SP

[green solstice]

for the 4 or use the weapon to make high dps?

[trim hill]

Well, if your viral is offloaded to another source, magnetic + heat lets you get an extra slot for Shred

[ivory stirrup]

who has a uriel build for me its for sp

[midnight horizon]

should i swap out equilibrium for blind rage im going for more strength but beware i havent put any purple archon shards yet

[ruby igloo]

The frame its self I’ve got high weapon dps

[green solstice]

try these maybe out

[midnight horizon]

i got a radioactive wisp one sec

[trim hill]

Also, just an addendum for Vermisplicer: Sinister Reach is non-negotiable. It should 100% always be in the exilus, especially so when running punch thru

[midnight horizon]

@ruby igloo

[severe bough]

U can dump on efficiency sawp out trans fort for blind rage and augur message for pcont also wouldnt recommend cammisado rather use concentration

[midnight horizon]

hows this now? i will put archon shards tho

was thinking 3 purple

concentration havent gotten it yet so i will look into it

[near crater]

Yup leveling again while i go ahead and do mirror def

[midnight horizon]

can do 2 blue for max energy

[jovial lion]

tbf frostbite wont do anything unless u have something external to proc cold

unless its still bugged and still procs on combined status

[green solstice]

mainly I play with frost and with his 1 so I have safe a cold proc

[trim hill]

I'm glad to have another member of the cult

[near crater]

I also got like... Catchmoon and Tombfinger primaries, and gaze secondary

Staff Hammer and staff blade Zaw as well

[coral crest]

It's the tentacle beam right?

[near crater]

Yes

[coral crest]

Hm

If not for my current moa crafting efforts

Maybe I would've gotten this one

[near crater]

Ah wait rq is it worth the specific shard to get ability damage against enemies affected by status?

It's about volt

+10% on enemies affected by electricity

Like does it stack? Is it worth it? Etc

[coral crest]

It's a multiplicative boost to ability dmg

If he can have a strong ability dmg output and elec procs