builds-discussion

[pure reef]

Without crit on the Riven I lowk think you just don't bother modding for crit at all, just apply heaps of status effects and quickshot dudes in the head for dumb numbers

[crimson osprey]

lemme try this lol

that is pretty fun

reminds me of a kuva bramma lite

i put hunter munitions on, just took it off

serration, galv chamber+aptitude rime rounds+rived(giving viral) and rifle ele

anything you suggest i try in particular? i could toss vigilante armaments and hunter munitions perhaps

[pure reef]

Ok whatever worm time.

Condition Overload is a melee mod you might be familiar with, and it's the OG so the Galvanized mods for your guns that do the same thing are colloquially known as GunCO.
The way these mods work is like a scaling source of base damage, imagine a Serration that ranks up mid-mission.

However, on heaps of projectile weapons, these mods work totally differently. Instead of a traditional source of base damage they instead act as a seperate multiplier, boosting your weapons damage by a significant margin. Check the wiki page out on this shit and do some research it's worth knowing about this.

Mutalist Cernos is wack because on fully charged shots, Aptitude works as intended, but on quickfires it's a multiplier, resulting in the serious damage boost. Longbow Sharpshot is yet another multiplier so when you stack them all together it starts to get illegal

[crimson osprey]

ahhh okay, i understood it for melee, not primaries i suppose

[pure reef]

Hunter Munitions is bait on most guns and it's doing nothing for you here because you're not critting. Armaments is fine I guess. Firestorm (primed) might increase the gas cloud radius, check wiki on that.
You could drop HM, armaments, and a toxin mod, and run crit chance, crit damage, and hammer shot

[pure reef]

On melee it's always additive with base damage. There's like four melee projectiles that treat it like a multiplier

[crimson osprey]

toxin is on my riven

97% status chance/95% multishot/97%toxin

[pure reef]

Oh true yeah keep that riven around it's nice

[crimson osprey]

so i put rime rounds on for viral

[dusty dragon]

Health conversion on uriel, yay or nah?

[pure reef]

For Arcane Battery to fix his horrendous base energy pool, Yay!

For Health Tanking... I mean if you want to, sure, but nayyyt really

[crimson osprey]

i gotta find tha tlongshot arcane

[frosty fjord]

from duviri if you wanna try to play and get it, gotta do the extra portals OR you go to loid and gamba

from which gamba is the much less time consuming method however just as not guaranteed

[astral tinsel]

you can also get it from Acrithis sometimes

[dusty dragon]

Ive had zero problems with his energy pool with just flow TBH

[lavish grail]

is this good for valkyr talons?

im looking for a nuke-ish build for the heavy attack

[dusty dragon]

do uriel's demons do any damage, or do they just cast their abilities?

[coral crest]

they do, but its extremely negligible

[jovial lion]

any volt player to butcher my build??

[brittle sleet]

Worth noting, as far as uncharged vs charged shots

4100% multiplier is WACKY on the charged clouds

[eternal halo]

Does anyone have a low/non forma for Mesa’s Regulators? My current build works mostly fine, but begins to struggle against steel path

[dusty dragon]

Wouldn’t it be cool if uriel’s demons could be modded like sentinels?

[coral crest]

He's already a bit too loaded

Giving his passive even more would've been silly

Man just has 3 abilities as his passive that trigger at random

Or forced from his actual abilities

Not to mention he's one of the only frames(actually might be the only???)who easily benefits from archon intensify for zero investment

And they take aggro from him

Damage linking, orb generation, heat resupply with fire rate

That's not even his abilities, that's just his passive

[dusty rover]

On a scale of 1-10 how good is this riven mod

[coral crest]

Probably most common enemy type in the game

Would've been cool if not for the negative

[dusty rover]

So it’s not worth upgrading?

[plain drum]

guys how do tome mods work? so lets say im using jahu canticle (armor strip one), i kill something and i get 5% armor strip for enemies within my affinity range, and of course the grimoire needs to be held while the killing happens, but im still confused and got a few questions :

1. is the armor strip gone if i unequip the grimoire?
2. does the armor strip stay with me and stack within my affinity range wherever i go for the duration of the mission or is it a one time thing ? (as in do i gotta kill 20 enemies in one area within my affinity range to fully strip the rest or can i just kill 20 enemies and i gain an armor stripping aura like corrosive projection for enemies within affinity range)
3. does the armor strip dissapear when enemies leave my affinity range?

[coral crest]

Yeah, probably better roll

[plain drum]

ykno what my brain too small for this level of nerd thinking
is sac steel better than galv steel for this? (sac steel give guaranteed crit hit, galv steel give more crit damage)

xoris build btw

[dusty rover]

Is this one better?

[coral crest]

What's the most consistent priming weapon on sentinels?

i keep seeing either helstrum or verglas

[novel bear]

Verglas is better for damage, helstrum for priming I think

[coral crest]

[velvet pulsar]

Tazicor

[coral crest]

Oh

I assume verglas is more of a universal tool

For dmg as well

[velvet pulsar]

Damage

[coral crest]

What could be the middle ground?

[velvet pulsar]

And tenacious bond but with riven

[coral crest]

I'm just completely clueless when it comes to sentinel weapons

[velvet pulsar]

Might as well pick a burst lazer variant to use augur and synth set

[coral crest]

Actually I should instead go and read/watch relevant material on it

Thanks for pointers though :3

[velvet pulsar]

Tip:
I don't use tazicor or helstrum anymore

[coral crest]

Which one are you using then?

[velvet pulsar]

Verglas (Prime)

[coral crest]

Alright then

https://tenor.com/view/gato-anotado-noted-noted-gato-noted-cat-gif-15232071836705052766

[old marsh]

Prime Laser Rifle with Diriga. U can proc upto 7 status effects with it

Main reason is that it has all 3 physical status unlike Helstrum & Verglas. Making it incredible for any weapon in your hand that relies on having multiple status effects on them

[crimson osprey]

Hey im curious, for a little additional survivability, whats the best companion to use? this is primarily for ash- was thinking the vasca kavat

[old marsh]

Verglas doesn’t even have IPS. Helstrum has 2. Making it the 2nd best option

[old marsh]

The chonk boy. Raksa

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-evil-chihuahua-twt-memes-dog-gif-2124557923355771903

[mighty flare]

general: sly vupaphyla, wyrm prime
casters: shade/huras

[crimson osprey]

i really jsut wanna use a kavat with the smashed in face

lol

[old marsh]

[crimson osprey]

looks like its called a persian head?

[novel bear]

Vasca kavat can sacrifice itself to heal you, which can boost survivability some

[crimson osprey]

been using just that- but i think i just came here for someone to tell me i can get a persian looking kavat to do that too

[novel bear]

Vasca is the only kavat, sorry

That helps with survival

Smeeta draws extra aggro I guess, but it doesn’t do much

[mighty flare]

vasca is the only kavat that helps survivability
the other "kavats" are the infested vulpaphylas which would just be sly

[crimson osprey]

i have all of em, just not all the patterns(persian squish face)

hmm looks like its my vasca afteral

[novel bear]

The hyekka pattern looks kind of like persian?
That’s the only thing I can really think of

[crimson osprey]

any bs in the shop that gets me the squish face cat?

deaera kavat in the shop is the face im after

deaeira*

like, i cant tell if the fur pattern is just that, or if its also the body? cause it shows both?

[novel bear]

There might be something you can do with linking one kavats appearance in chat and then copying it onto the vasca

Not sure if that’ll work

But it works for kubrows pretty sure

[crimson osprey]

hmm

[crimson osprey]

So it does work but its bugged?

all links give me a gaudy moonless kavat

[stray depot]

chat how hard is it to get bladed rounds

the mod

im trying to make vinquibus really work

[frigid river]

Anything I can improve?

[mighty flare]

you wouldnt need or want bladed rounds for vinquibus

[stray depot]

im not good with builds at all but that one i got from here seems a bit idk

limp?

[mighty flare]

this is not good build

[stray depot]

i dont mean that but thanks for letting me know

but i meant a build i got from here in this discord

[mighty flare]

a person from this discord sent you that build?

[stray depot]

nonononono

[mighty flare]

so what are you trying to say? sorry for communication issue

[stray depot]

its actually a build you sent me for the ranged mode on vinquibus

https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

and ive been trying to get it going but idk what im doing wrong

[mighty flare]

so what is lacking?

[stray depot]

with another build i had cooked up i was getting like. 4-5 mil red crits frequently

this one im not getting red crits and im more so just getting good status procs but nothing really damaging?

[mighty flare]

against what?

[stray depot]

well i was doing dark refactory and perita stuff

so like

a variety of things

[mighty flare]

you can try raw corrosive or drop in magnetic capacity
are you comparing an acuity build?

[stray depot]

this is the one im using

well the one that i made

[mighty flare]

what about the other one?

[stray depot]

the other one is the one you showed me

[mighty flare]

do you have it exactly? you dont even have a chamber mod on this one

[stray depot]

these are the two builds im using

[mighty flare]

yeah this one is better, the only way you're seeing this as worse is if you're not keeping up galv stacks

[uneven field]

Does anyone know what mods the vinquibus uses in the old peace mission itself, like at the very end

i've searched everywhere and cant find what they are

[mellow palm]

Guys, theoretically, how much red exclamation marks can i get from crit? I'm thinking about a full team buffing Kullervo to get to the highest number possible, integer overflow could be

But i want to see how many exclamation marks can we achieve

[mellow palm]

3 SECONDS OF RELOADING??? HELL NAH

[mighty flare]

it gets 100% ammo eff so you shouldn't be reloading at all if ur keeping up the passive

[mellow palm]

So if i reload constantly, that's just my skill issue then

[mighty flare]

yea

[fierce lark]

you're supposed to use the melee for smaller targets, and only shoot big enemies/things out of range

since you're forced to take the melee variant anyways you may as well use the gimmick, the rifle version is garbage without it

[mellow palm]

Thanks for the info

[late ice]

How useful is wisp’s critical surge?

Or i should ask, how often does it get used in practice?

[steady epoch]

Breach Surge? All the time, it’s very good, it blinds enemies and adds a damage multiplier

It also makes enemies let out new projectiles as they take damage

[bitter olive]

Guys is okina prime good? And does anyone have a build that could match uriel?

[idle nacelle]

Lowkey confused on how to build ember

[midnight horizon]

Okina p with incarnon is probably top 5 hybrid melees

[slate urchin]

i am having some problem with heat status proc on my mesa build with the regulators, i need heat since i put 5 tau topaz secondary crit chance, can someone help me?

jk i am dumb af, i inverted the 2 status mod by mistake

[wintry olive]

does alternox like status spam weapon? i saw the crit pretty low but the status chance pretty high

[mighty flare]

it builds for both, a hybrid weapon

[mellow palm]

Ninjase's build

[slate urchin]

ye

my because the problem was only mine and i couldnt understand why

[hasty dome]

guys is my torid build good? im thinking using this build for SP

[plain drum]

isnt that just the standard torid build

[hasty dome]

i had incarnon on it

[plain drum]

yeah i know

thats pretty obvious already

but yeah its the standard torid build

good for anything really

[hasty dome]

do you think i can solo boss with this?

[plain drum]

torid isnt a boss weapon

[hasty dome]

oh so you cant using it on any boss?

but this weapon is strong

[wintry olive]

you can but meh

[wintry olive]

it is a strong weapon but not against bosses

[plain drum]

its good for destroying many enemies but not bosses

[hasty dome]

alright.. i guess i just use this weapon for normal mission then

[plain drum]

boss weapons are stuff like burston incarnon or laetum incarnon

[hasty dome]

noted

[wintry olive]

my laetum have sit in my inventory way too long and im still not building it yet

[mellow palm]

Strong for crowd clearing, not boss killing

Wish we had cautious shot but for secondary

[mellow palm]

Or Braton but unmodded, unrank, best weapon for boss killing 🥀

It's so powerful you will die before you kill the boss 🥀

[plain drum]

its so strong it kills you instead

[mellow palm]

Yes

[mellow palm]

Use spectral serration if you have "Bravo, going dark" ahh frame

[limber jungle]

anyone got a better build for xaku ive been using this build for a while now but it cooks me on the efficiency

[fierce lark]

you need equilibrium

and ideally a companion with some form of aoe and synth deconstruct

you can offload the equilibrium to shards if you want, but xaku has no innate energy sustain or orb generation

so it's hard to play 45 eff without something else, especially if you're spamming 4 to break stuff

[limber jungle]

this is my shard setup currently

energy max on the blue ones

[fierce lark]

synth deconstruct + equilibrium is the easiest way to guarantee energy economy these days

as long as the companion can hit things

[limber jungle]

alright bc i love to use shade companion and just go invis and let my guns kill everything

[fierce lark]

if you equip it with duplex bond, the copied shades will shoot things without revealing you or your main shade

as long as you're spending energy

and i believe they still mark enemies for deconstruct

[limber jungle]

what would u reccomend for my archon shards bc im using 2 azure for energy max and the reds are all str

[fierce lark]

1-2 cast speed, 1-2 equilibrium (if not running the mod), 2-3 strength

and i would swap out umbral vitality for something, ideally simply equilibrium

[limber jungle]

alright thanks

[hollow mantle]

Is there any way to make the Thalys good without Kullervo or Valkyr?

I cannot get this stupid Scythe to do anything

All my other weapons do just fine Lvl200+, but this thing just cannot get off the ground.

[fierce lark]

i just took it to 1k cascade on koumei, it functions fine

might be a build issue

[hollow mantle]

Most definitely

I tried using Melee Afflictions

But that's seeming like a mistake

[limber jungle]

hows this 1x casting speed 2x energy orb effic and 2x str shards

[fierce lark]

you don't need energy orb eff, if you have equilibrium+synth deconstruct you will generate ridiculous amount of health orbs which themselves count as energy orbs

[fierce lark]

it is, just run slop influence like everything else lmao

[hollow mantle]

God I hate that arcane

[fierce lark]

afflictions isn't the worst thing ever, galeforce neutral combo forces slash on 2nd hit and lifted on 3rd hit

but influence just kills everything by itself so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow mantle]

Idk why they refuse to make any other melee arcane worth using

[fierce lark]

and the stance 1st heavy is a sweeping horizontal slash that does a truckload of damage, and detonates any incarnon shards

tbh this weapon actually kinda does need influence to function

bc of the 40% follow through

[hollow mantle]

Absolutely ridiculous to me since it wants to have so much range

[eager charm]

Doesnt thalys have built in primed reach? You can drop range mods

[hollow mantle]

Yeah but like

It's funny.

[eager charm]

True and real(fact checked by true Perita patriots)

[hollow mantle]

14 Meter attack range go brrr

[eager charm]

Having 11+ meters of range for the triple 360 spin is wild

But yeah uh

40% follow through is yucky

Either use avenger + drop range for crit damage or use kullervo

[hollow mantle]

This weapon HAD to be made by Steve, it's edging the line of being great on it's own, but blueballed just slightly, just like everything Steve designed in this game before he left.

[eager charm]

Nah it wipes its ass with anything below level 1k

Its just sp circuit and cascade that it becomes lacking

[hollow mantle]

I have yet to test it after swapping my build

I don't use like, any melee frames

Is it that good on its own

[mighty flare]

it doesnt

[eager charm]

I was a dumbass and subsumed over 3 for omamori on my levelcap kullervo run and it STRUGGLED past like 7k

[fierce lark]

you can have 10.8 range with the status = range evo and primed reach for big funny, if you want

[fierce lark]

oh so synth doesn't actually work on shade

[eager charm]

Of the influence weps absolutely

Keep in mind the shard mechanic is basically mini influence by itself

[hollow mantle]

I've found almost every melee weapon in this game to be disappointing miserable dookie

[eager charm]

It doesnt count crits but counts everything else

[fierce lark]

thats pure heat exposure with 0 buffs

[eager charm]

Stop playing hildryn

[fierce lark]

it's still pretty good

[hollow mantle]

Gorgeous

[hollow mantle]

I play Mesa </3

[eager charm]

Fair

[hollow mantle]

I hate Hildryn

[fierce lark]

no buffs no bane etc, still kills things in front of it, just the mass aoe suffers from no follow through or influence

[eager charm]

Sacrilege

[hollow mantle]

She's so boring

To be fair

99% of the frames in this game I have ACTUALLY fell asleep playing

[eager charm]

She's my daily driver, my ride or die gal

[mighty flare]

yes

[frail belfry]

Personally use Wisp more often than not.

[eager charm]

Have you tried 73% dura 45% eff voracious hildryn in public squads? Keeping the buff up and pumping 100+ energy/second into everyone is fun

[hollow mantle]

Trying to get to MR30 and every. single. time. I load into SO or ESO I instantly get hit with heavy eyes and start drifting off.

Yesterday I fell asleep and woke up on the mission summary screen.

[frail belfry]

I will however occasionally switch over to either Titania or Sevagoth if I need to do fast room clears or bosses.

[eager charm]

What weapons? I've been using reconifex on her for fast reload and big mag

[hollow mantle]

I havent touched Hildryn since I leveled her prime with the release

[eager charm]

Dont eso ur way to mr30 you will burn out
Clear sp starchart instead for mastery

[eager charm]

Hildryn post aegis gale augment is a completely different frame

She is revenant but for offense

[hollow mantle]

every node I need to do to progress in the SP is an archwing and I'd rather jump off my apartment building

[frail belfry]

I really only have 3 weapons I use cause I'm still working towards making Vinquibus buildable. I'm lacking potatoes for it.

But my three weapons are:
Tenet Arca Plasmor
Tenet Glaxion
Acceltra Prime

[eager charm]

How do you cope with the reload on plasmor wisp?

[frail belfry]

I'm also planning to build up a Coda Bassocyst because I love shotties.

[hollow mantle]

noted

[frail belfry]

I don't mind it honestly. Also I use Semi Shotgun Cannonade on it for bigger damage.

[eager charm]

I'm dead serious, Hildryn is top 5 frames in the entire game and it's extremely hard for me to play any other frame

She blasts like hell

Hyper flexible subsumes

Infinite casts and 280% range on every build

Godframe

[frail belfry]

If you want I can show you my build on it if you're interested.

[eager charm]

Wait, does cannonade work with haste mote?

[frail belfry]

(Also I have Nourish subsumed lmao)

[frail belfry]

Nay. Will lock the rate of fire. Even haste mote won't work.

[wispy arch]

i feel like i should give up on trying to make Blood Altar work with anything

[frail belfry]

Here's my Arca Plasmor.

[eager charm]

Cannonade plasmor on wisp sounds like a god awful idea then no offense

Try quellor or reconifex or AX52

[blissful knoll]

So, just checking, does brightbonnet still break assimilate?

[frail belfry]

That's cause it is but I just genuinely don't care for the most part because it's literally one of my best guns lmao

[blissful knoll]

Or is the parkour bug fixed?

[eager charm]

I'm pretty sure blood altar got murdered when the bufs got fixed like mag 2, voruna 1, nyx 1, etc

[frail belfry]

Also my Wisp.

[eager charm]

AX52 is easy to get and primary crux + hipfire = infinite ammo

[frail belfry]

Yes by the way. Archon Intensify works when using health motes. Don't ask why it just does.

[blissful knoll]

There's still the nekros usecase i guess cos it keeps the zombies topped off

[wispy arch]

yeah i just can't seem to pair Blood Altar with any other thing

[eager charm]

They fixed every fun interaction with blood altar so that you cant get stuff like mind control targets oneshotting levelcap LOL

Shame

[frail belfry]

I do have the AX-52 actually. It just lacks arcane adapters.

And I want to save it on the Bassocyst

[eager charm]

Adding more max hp counts as a heal

Also u might wanna try arcane bellicose on wisp, it works rly well as a strength arcane

[blissful knoll]

Ngl this strat was so annoying to use in the first place

[eager charm]

Yeah but funny

[blissful knoll]

Stacking millions of damage with blood altar was so unwieldy

[frail belfry]

Hmm. Actually you're right. But Arcane concentration is so nice...

[eager charm]

Concentration is good on frames that love duration and rapid casts like gauss, protea, etc

Wisp just keeps up buffs, uses 3, and occasionally presses 2 when worried

[frail belfry]

Honestly I swapped Blood Altar for Gloom on my Garuda Prime.

[eager charm]

She doesnt get value from duration, explicitly

It's nice for long lasting mote buffs but.... motes last forever so lol

[fierce lark]

do wisp motes snapshot on cast

[quiet laurel]

Its rather annoying to play on high casting rate frames tbh
On wisp its very comfy cause you can cast motes once with the buff and be done with it

[eager charm]

U bet ur sweet bippy they do

[fierce lark]

press breach surge once and then set up 2 sets of motes or however many

free +60

[hollow mantle]

Do yall have a Hydroid build that's super overkill

[blissful knoll]

Speaking of wisp, i just saw the mecha set + afflictions burning hate shock mote dps setup and it's so funny

[mighty flare]

overkill for what

[blissful knoll]

Damage cap shock mote is hilarious

[eager charm]

Maybe, but you're already snapshotting stuff like anchor or redline on the duration frames anyways, not much of an ask

And besides, it's cool to have arcanes that change the way you play instead of just +stat for free like molt augmented

[hollow mantle]

Lvl 1k+

[mighty flare]

again, thats super vague

do you just want a weapon platformer?

[quiet laurel]

Slamdroid

[hollow mantle]

I haven't touched Hydroid since his rework

I guess so

[eager charm]

This sounds like a bargain bin super nintendo game

[mighty flare]

hydroid is mostly weapon platformer except for like caster smite build

[eager charm]

Smite hydroid what?

[blissful knoll]

Breach surge is p ok too

[eager charm]

Viral tempest?

[mighty flare]

surge works on everyone so its not really hydroid specific

[hollow mantle]

Smite Hydroid sounds fun

[mighty flare]

ah damn lol

[mighty flare]

2-3 ability dmg shards

[mint scarab]

hello, anyone here have references to PT Loadouts, im currently confused at what primaries to use

[blissful knoll]

If you have a riven i think the zenith is still ideal so you can hit the targets thru terrain to speed up the run

[mighty flare]

what

[blissful knoll]

Profit taker

[mighty flare]

zenith hasnt been used in long time 😭

ig during blip when de kneecapped ogris

[blissful knoll]

Although if you're a farm maniac you should have a zenith riven anyway

Cos you'd want to be able to speed farm dolons as well

[mighty flare]

pt uses kuva ogris

[mint scarab]

so in general kuva ogris is ideal yea

my other loadouts are tenet detron and melee with contagion shoot things

[mighty flare]

pt uses sicarus prime incarnon now

and im pretty sure before that was diplos

detron is ancient meta 💔

[mint scarab]

yea i kinda have a lot to catch up... twin

[blissful knoll]

Oh what about the budget cyte setup so you don't need to set up multiple weapons?

[mighty flare]

cyte is shyte for pt 💔

[blissful knoll]

I mean yea but that's how it is with budget setups no?

[mint scarab]

ARGHH INCARNONNN SICARUS HAS AN INCARNON NOW???

[blissful knoll]

Yea it's p fun to use in general too

It'll give you bullet ricochet

[mighty flare]

budget is taking yo broke ass to 1999 vaults 💔

[blissful knoll]

You know what, that's true

Atleast the vaults are easy to speedrun with a bit of practice

And all you need is a titania

Or a chroma with parkour shards

[mighty flare]

yes, its become top pick for endgame content (pt/eidos) cuz it works from incarnoff

[hollow mantle]

For a weapons platform instead of this, is there anything specific I should subsume onto him?

[mighty flare]

no

[inner dove]

i want to fit both temporal artillery and temporal erosion for this but i dont know what id replace..

[mossy ore]

I have taken quite a long break from warframe and coming back most of my builds are outdated (if they were ever even in date). I'm looking to improve my sleight of hand mirage build for nuking ESO since I have so much stuff to level now. What recommendations do y'all have? Thanks!

[mighty flare]

temporal erosion isnt that important for protea
use temporal artillery

[inner dove]

alrighty, thanks

[hollow mantle]

Sepulcrum, any advice?

This build was a slap together when I first made it to forma it.

[haughty moon]

Could you help me with my Nidus too, please? I haven’t mained Nidus for a long time so it would be nice to hear from a fellow Nidus enjoyer.

My gameplan is I wanna try and use Coda weapons with him, however, they seem to be struggling a bit (ofc I haven’t quite got the ones equipped to my Nidus maxed yet lol)

[blissful knoll]

If you want to level stuff, don't nuke ESO cos all the affinity will go to mirage

Instead, you can run a buffer and support a nuker on ESO or you can go do silence stealth affinity runs

[fierce lark]

can you repeat sorties

you could spam eximus stronghold

[inner dove]

is blaze artillery's duration capped at 10 seconds?

[frosty fjord]

i mean just play the operation alerts they are eximus strongholds lol

at least rn

repeat sorties, don't think you can do that

[inner dove]

you can do that, you just wont get the sortie rewards

[blissful knoll]

Iirc you can also do the open world archwing orbital drop stealth affinity farm which should really fast for leveling weapons (but a pain in the rear to practice)

[frosty fjord]

plains sniping isn't that hard tbh

[blissful knoll]

It's mostly to run it fast

[frosty fjord]

works best for archwing or frames

[blissful knoll]

And make it really worth it

Cos you kinda need to get used to the spawn patterns to make the run truly fast

[frosty fjord]

you can just build up the stealth bonus at first camp then just hunt the eximus and its pretty fast even without spawn manip

[inner dove]

or, if you have a crewmate and a kuva zarr, run public sp elara on jupiter

[inner dove]

(or just a fast-firing aoe weapon in general)

[blissful knoll]

You're right yea

But in general I'm not much of a fan of stealth affinity farms

[fierce lark]

same

if it's not a multifarm it's le big cringe

[blissful knoll]

I mean

If you're gonna forma a lot of stuff it's definitely worth it

But it's just not for me

I'd rather sit in survival

[fierce lark]

the only way anything gets levelled is by getting dragged along with whatever i was already doing before

[languid marten]

i put 3 forma on my stahlta and it's still not as good as my telos boltor incarnon.. curse my stupid chungus life

[summer trout]

is this good?

[fierce lark]

it's not terrible but you could definitely find better

[summer trout]

so

gamble it?

[fierce lark]

up to you

[summer trout]

ima do it

no?

[inner dove]

oohw rong chat oops

[fierce lark]

worse

[summer trout]

this one?

[fierce lark]

still worse

[violet comet]

Whats a good primary and secondary build for uriel based on damage I need help I'm not great with modding

[fierce lark]

you're looking for cd, cc, dmg, multishot and fire rate

[summer trout]

noted

[fierce lark]

and a non-harmful negative

to boost the positives

[summer trout]

way worse?

[fierce lark]

horrific

[summer trout]

thought so

[fierce lark]

unless it's your favourite gun ever and you want a godroll riven, the one you have is passable

[summer trout]

i wanna sell it

[fierce lark]

oh, well, gl with that

non-godrolls are difficult to sell

[violet comet]

Does anyone know a good build for primary and secondary based on damage for uriel

[fierce lark]

anything that can work with viral heat

[violet comet]

I'm not good at modding I need help badly

Most of my builds come from other people and they don't work well

Or the mods I need r too hard to get

And trying to mod for steel path

[summer trout]

how do i buy from warframe market?

[violet comet]

U first contact the owner by copy and paste the link when u buy and put in an empty chat

Hope it helped👍

[summer trout]

ok how do i get empty chat?

[fierce lark]

pretty much any gun can follow this modding formula and will function competently

[summer trout]

and is 55p for mesa set overpriced?

[violet comet]

Can it work with dual tox?

[fierce lark]

damage, multishot, crit chance, crit damage, fire rate, viral, heat

any of the above things you can gain without mods can be swapped out for other mods

[summer trout]

war better than broken war?

[fierce lark]

dual tox incarnon?

[violet comet]

Yes

[summer trout]

is sacrificing the broken war i alr have for the war ok or just get another broken war?

[marsh osprey]

Got Kompressa prime for my yareli prime but unsure of how to build it. Does the explosion damage from the bubble count as something different? are there specific mods I should put on?

[fierce lark]

i haven't used dtox personally but with incarnon it's supposed to be the strongest secondary in the game

the build im looking at is pure electric with merciless gunfight & galv crosshairs to replace viral, but i dont see why pure viral+heat wouldn't work either

[violet comet]

So could it work?

Anyways what primary weapon would u recommend?

@fierce lark

[fierce lark]

depends on if you have arcane hotshot or not tbh

[violet comet]

I have it

[fierce lark]

uriel is weird, since the gun buff from his 3 infuses heat onto your gun, it doesn't normally work with incarnons

but sometimes it does

my preferred primary these days is phenmor, but it doesn't work with hotshot giving crit

[violet comet]

So what would be good with uriel

[weary elbow]

On overframe, when checking a companion build, the top 2 mods are number 1 and number 2 and the top left in 3, next 4, etc?

[summer trout]

any possibility to increase my chance of stalker tryna kill me?

[fierce lark]

guns that have high raw dps and can mod for heat, as each shot applies a guaranteed heat status when buffed by 3, plus everything he does applies heat and they all stack off of each other and ye

really nothing special, just typical good crit primaries. tenet glaxion, tenet arca plasmor, sobek w acid shells, his signature vinquibus, trumna prime, cedo prime, acceltra prime, etc

[violet comet]

What about epitough prime?

[fierce lark]

epitaph is a secondary

[summer trout]

what damage should i build soma for?

[quiet laurel]

Such a big design flaw that all his abilities apply heat and so his heat ammo buff is negatively affected by reverse heat inherit

Uriel sounds so cool on paper but when you look into it a bit more critically its pretty questionable design

[fierce lark]

i was gonna say that only matters if you're running bane mods, but it affects elementalist too

pain

[quiet laurel]

And heat %

[fierce lark]

yikes

there's not even a way to fix it lmao

until de un-screws inherit

[spiral chasm]

Does that mean viral heat is just bad for uriel?

[fierce lark]

it's weird, he gets proper damage against anything as long as he or his demons haven't touched them with his 1

presumably

his 1 active on himself and his demons, and a 4m radius on top of enemies who die marked by his 2 passive

all apply heat

and brimstone but that kills everything so who cares

but like he needs heat statuses from abilities for hotshot so you can't really get around it

[trim hill]

I got the Incarnon Genesis for me Bronco Prime. I feel like this is a solid roll - but are there any other stats I might want to roll for instead?

[astral tinsel]

Honestly, I'd be for removing it

screws over Ember as well

[fierce lark]

yeah i feel like people who actively prime nukes with heat inherit are a vast minority

compared to people who just play frames that happen to suffer from reverse inherit

[quiet void]

Hello, anyone mind sharing gyre prime build? Also is Trumna prime considered good weapon for her?

[steady epoch]

It’s a decent weapon but you want something with as many individual damage hits as possible. Alternox (Gyre’s primary) is specifically designed to work well with her abilities.
Acceltra is also quite good and so it’s Coda Bassocyst

When you get a critical hit Rotorswell will chain hit enemies, so you want as many individual crits as possible, whether they do damage is irrelevant

[pallid adder]

Is anyone knowledgeable enough in the ways of Lex and Lex Incarnon to tell me if this Riven is worth keeping? Obviously the -puncture massively hurts the regular form but the incarnon doesn't do any puncture. My friend also mentioned that the electricity could be a bit of a negative

[kind void]

sorry was asleep and i have to go to work. send me a dm and ill do my best to help out

[haughty moon]

Alrighty

[fierce lark]

do you own primed convulsion?

[pallid adder]

I do not

[fierce lark]

this can just fit the electric slot then in a viral+electric or corrosive+heat setup

it's pretty much primed pistol gambit, primed target cracker, and better convulsion all in 1 mod

-puncture sucks for incarnoff but meh

[obtuse remnant]

What should a steel path nataruk build look like ?

[fierce lark]

im looking at the base incarnon stats and im looking at this riven and im salivating

[tawdry ocean]

wich one? What can I improve?

[fierce lark]

magnetic capacity over bane if you don't want to swap banes, regular serration is fine, run speed trigger if you don't have primed shred, and deadhead/no arcane if you don't have sharpshot

[pallid adder]

haha shame is I don't actually have the incarnon. I just wanted a nice plain Lex roll. But it'd be a shame to reroll it if it does have a specific use

[fierce lark]

oh the lex is ass without the incarnon

[pallid adder]

it's my GOAT

[obtuse remnant]

Yeah i would just need primed shred amalgam serration , galvanized aptitude and the arcane , im capin at like 110 lvl enemies

[pallid adder]

Personal preference

[fierce lark]

galv aptitude is 100000x the most important thing out of that list

aptitude's base damage is multiplicative with other sources of base damage on the nataruk, so it's a very large dps increase if there are any statuses present

[obtuse remnant]

How may formas would it take ?

[obtuse remnant]

So i shouldn’t be using heavy caliber?

[pallid adder]

Ty for your help btw

[fierce lark]

i wouldn't use it over serration, but if you don't have galv apt yet running both is fine

[steady epoch]

Ok this has probably already been mentioned but I just wanted to harp on it a little more.
Arcane Circumvent and Arcane Persistence are amazing.
They airnt just very good, the are literally game changing.
Prior to Old Peace there was imo a growing issue with many frames requiring huge and inconvenient defensive setups that used multiple arcane and mod slots and defined a frames entire strategy.
With just these two arcanes DE has managed to actually revolutionize defensive strategies.
What’s even better is they don’t feel the same and both require different things from the player or frame, adding both play and build variety to an area that desperately needed it.
TLDR: new defense arcanes are chefkiss

[obtuse remnant]

Ty

[fierce lark]

persistence is great but it's also severely overblown

ppl are swearing by it for content where enemies aren't even hitting you that hard

[trim hill]

Circumvent quite literally makes every frame tanky at the measly cost of one arcane slot

[fierce lark]

like sub lvl 500 enemies aren't hitting you enough to benefit from persistence over conversion blessing adaptation

i haven't even bought circumvent yet but i envision a world where i dont need catagate on like 3 different glass cannon frames and can just roll into an eximus instead

[steady epoch]

That’s also 3 slots as opposed to 1

[fierce lark]

persistence almost always requires additional investment

just to get enough armor to use it

[severe bough]

Just use shield gating fr fr

[steady epoch]

And a way to get health quickly yeh

[fierce lark]

and then even more investment to actually get a health pool that can survive it

[trim hill]

Plus the extra health needed to tank hits back to back

[steady epoch]

Lmao my whole point was these two arcanes made shield gating no longer needed in most cases

[fierce lark]

shield gating is still superior but it's not the only way to live high lvl sp endurance anymore

[steady epoch]

Yeh I just really hate it

[trim hill]

Does Persistence work with QT? Does anyone know?

[fierce lark]

i think circumvent does still require rolling guard, else the eximus you just rolled into probably just removes the overguard you stole lol

but i haven't used it yet

[severe bough]

It should

[trim hill]

RG and Circumvent do work perfectly together, ye

[trim hill]

So then you should be theoretically capped at ~208 energy per hit using QT? Might be worth it running Rage/Nourish

[steady epoch]

I use it with RG and it’s great, you can use it with Adaptation as well since it procs from damage to OG as well, you won’t get DR while OG is active but as soon as that measly 10k pops you’ve probably got 90%dr for your next roll

(Which does nothing in LCap I know)

[fierce lark]

yeah except that

persistence is working on overguard

[trim hill]

That's okay, nobody plays that

[steady epoch]

Oh really…. 🤔

[fierce lark]

it's not supposed to and im sure they're gonna look into it at some point, but from what ive heard, overguard is losing max 500 per instance of damage (not per second, but per instance) if persistence is active

and since circumvent also steals armor, and since steel path grineer/corrupted have a lot of armor, you can probably run the two together in sp endurance and have infinite self-sustaining overguard

as long as you roll every 20 seconds

sorry 15 seconds*

[steady epoch]

Which I’m doing anyway without thought lol

Fantastic design imo

[vital token]

got my first amp that doesn't suck, what arcanes do I use?

[steady epoch]

Circumvent works just fine at rank 0 as well as long as it’s an SP Eximus you’re rolling through, I’ve been handing them out the the clan like Halloween candy lol

[severe bough]

Ye but thats like all mods slots inculding arcanes inculding subsume good for a meme build tho

[fierce lark]

i think it's pretty much always eternal onslaught+eternal eradicate

[vital token]

aight, more holdfast grinding for me

[steady epoch]

Depends on your amp and its purpose but probably
Eternal Onslaught - ( this is specifically for Madurai and using you 1 (void strike)
Then either
Eternal Eradicate or Virtuous Strike

[vital token]

I'm on a 243

gonna assume I can just run erad and ons

[steady epoch]

Idk what the numbers mean anymore

[coral crest]

Without madurai onslaught is so ass to use

[abstract bison]

there's also Magus Melt on the Operator and then Eternal Eradicate + Eternal Logistics instead

[fierce lark]

is it? i thought every school could spam away their energy bar

[abstract bison]

Void Sling synergy

[coral crest]

Yeah but not as fast as madurai

None of them have a "drain all energy" button except madurai

[abstract bison]

easier to use when not running Madurai

[steady epoch]

And Void Strike give damage based on energy depleted so it’s not a contest

[abstract bison]

just void sling and cast any ability once

[fierce lark]

when you're doing cascade, you only press that button if you get downed, typically

[steady epoch]

It’s just nothing like as good for any other school

[coral crest]

At least the gap is now somewhat bridged with amp mods

[fierce lark]

the thrax setup is usually press 2 until energy depleted

save 1 in case you die somehow for instant revive

or it was like wave 3 times and sling once atp i dont remember lol

[steady epoch]

I press 2 once then press 1 and the Thrax is dead in both forms in just its animation time lol. Unless I have to kill another Thrax before cooldown then it’s 2 spam
(When running Madurai)

[abstract bison]

are thrax immune to the heat status only?

[steady epoch]

I use the flame thrower with the crit chance brace

Idr the numbers

[coral crest]

You need void dmg to kill the ghost

[abstract bison]

so Magus Melt acts as an elemental mod to the amp correct? so it will still boost the overall damage?

[steady epoch]

Void Angels never get their orbs or fly high either lol, dead during animations

Tridolon without your Warframe… etc

[coral crest]

Lega prism?

Also known as 6

[steady epoch]

Idk the big cone with super fr

[coral crest]

I replied to the wrong msg, sorry

[coral crest]

Yeah, but it won't contribute anything against ghost Thrax

[abstract bison]

oh so the added elemental heat dmg is purely negated

[coral crest]

You'll get some extra amp dmg but ghost thrax are taking amp void dmg only

[steady epoch]

I’m gunna login soon I’ll check

Its serviceable and can fill a Last Stand meter in SP with any school but with Madurai its better than a lot of my warframes. Built to kill Thrax and Angels, but can easily solo tridolon without a warframe.

[latent latch]

What is a good exclusive for uriel?

[burnt lodge]

Gammacor build is just normal viral heat right?

[old marsh]

Ye

[atomic talon]

start doing arbitrations

you need galvanized mods

[snow ice]

Like galvanized mutlishot?

[atomic talon]

are you using the tigris prime

hard to tell without breaking my neck

assuming the answer is yes. you'll want Galvanized Hell and Galvanized Savvy

i think...there are like no modern builds for the tigris on overframe

ok i am now 99% sure it is not the tigris which begs the question of

[atomic talon]

what weapons are these exactly?

[undone dust]

well you are right, the shotgun is tigris but i cannot tell what that secondary is

[coral crest]

Ah, Klamora

[atomic talon]

oh 2nd image is a shotgun.

idk why i assumed 1st was the primary

[undone dust]

bro saw hornet strike and thought primary

[atomic talon]

sis saw 1st image and assumed primary

[undone dust]

[coral crest]

Hornets are too small to be a primary weapon

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-small-pet-silly-alone-lonely-gif-4734322154604199486

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-kitten-running-white-kitten-running-wait-for-me-cat-gif-3673929632434181169

[boreal sandal]

I think I am doing something wrong with my secondary enervate laetum. Should I go devouring attrition instead of overwhelming?

[undone dust]

no, overwhelming instead of devouring on crit laetum

[boreal sandal]

Me and my Gauss cannot kill SP prime vanguard fast enough before the final jump squad (6) ended me

[atomic talon]

you redlining?

[boreal sandal]

yessir

it took about 1 and a half incarnon mag to kill them each. But during the final 6 I either got stealth kill by ash or killed by other vanguard trying to avoid Ash

[pallid adder]

is the hunters munition interaction strong enough to make this good

[quiet laurel]

thats an insane roll wtf

[atomic talon]

granted i am no riven expert but the stats on that are good enough to make that good

[fierce lark]

are you doing a lot of orders? the permanent buffs from those help a lot with the bosses (if you actually use them)

[boreal sandal]

iirc I got 6 order done solo before the fight. My zenurik tuaron barely killed volt. That guy got shield on

[atomic talon]

part of me thinks this wasn't a serious question and was just roll bragging 🤔

[astral tinsel]

HM is just kinda bad

[pallid adder]

I haven't really played enough of the game to judge whether giving up 50% of base damage is offset by the rolls

[astral tinsel]

it's not base damage

[civic cradle]

do you put casting speed archonshards on frost?

[atomic talon]

I may be stuck in my old ways but slash/impact/pierce aren't really desireable

people like elements

[astral tinsel]

it's offset by elemental damage mods

[atomic talon]

also the riven roll is literally the riven holy trinity of positives

[astral tinsel]

Well slash used to be king

[hushed bough]

what build would yall suggest i started today and picked volt

[astral tinsel]

Just use whatever you get

If you're new you won't have all the mods for anything close to a coherent build

[buoyant patio]

That would've been a godroll if the negative was something else.

[astral tinsel]

but my #1 tip would be to level up your mods. Use fewer, higer-rank mods.

[buoyant patio]

It's still probably worth using though even with the negative.

[boreal sandal]

slash bypass armor which before is basically 99.99% of EHP but now armor is like 90% max and the actual health skyrocketed

[buoyant patio]

Slash procs got nerfed quite a bit by the shift in enemy health scaling though.

[astral tinsel]

It didn't skyrocket, EHP is still vastly lower than before

But EHP against slash procs went up

[boreal sandal]

I see, thanks for clearing me up

[buoyant patio]

If this was the old meta, that would've been a dead roll. But today... you could have a worse negative there.

[fierce lark]

tl;dr modding for heat or electricity is pretty much always better than modding for slash via hunters munitions, nowadays

[astral tinsel]

Not optimal, but hardly a dead roll, you'd have been using HM anyway

[fierce lark]

electricity especially is way faster at killing general content since elec status DoTs tick their first damage instantly

[snow ice]

Tigris prime and lato vandal

[atomic talon]

Lato vandal huh? fancy....anyway you REALLY want to finish angels then

because Lato has a vandal

[buoyant patio]

...Right. I forgot the Soma has crap status chance, you had to use HM anyways for slash procs.

[snow ice]

Wdym?

[atomic talon]

im sorry. lato has an incarnon

[astral tinsel]

and it's boosted by elec mods and it does a larger portion of the hit's damage and it has AoE and it has CC and it can headshot

[undone dust]

i am an incarnon

[pallid adder]

I know very little about how the damage works in this game

[snow ice]

Ah, i have a boar incarnon and im waiting for lato incarnon to be available

[undone dust]

higher number = good

[fierce lark]

more numbers that do different things = good

[undone dust]

truth..

[fierce lark]

as long as the things they're doing are good

[snow ice]

Use viral (cold and toxin) to do more damage

[boreal sandal]

speaking of which, is it better to go pure electricity for SP prime vanguard or generic viral/heat on crit laetum? considering that they all have status cap

[fierce lark]

probably viral heat

or corroheat with external viral if you have primed convulsion

[atomic talon]

you do need holdfast faction to install them....and duviri resources for some reason

[fierce lark]

heat inherit means heat procs should still keep ramping damage even on status capped enemies

but idk if it actually works that way

[snow ice]

Can't i drop 120p for them without farming resources?

[atomic talon]

I suppose so

bit on the expensive side though

[snow ice]

Cause that's my plan

[civic cradle]

is the riven good or should i roll for something better

[atomic talon]

i mean it isn't awful

you should keep rolling+

[civic cradle]

alright, i want like crit and multishot i guess?

on the boar

[zealous rapids]

you need to build around focus school buffs, for example for gauss with zenurik you should use sunder augment for extra damage, but honestly vs vanguard I just suggest magistar slam build with naramon, 1shot them before they start doing anything funny

[fierce lark]

crit crit ms fr damage

usual riven stats

with a non-harmful negative

[atomic talon]

Suppose so. Like I said that isn't awful. If you had a 3rd (good) stat and a negative it'd be pretty good

but from what I've heard. raw damage on a riven isn't anything to write home about

[zealous rapids]

damage is a good stat if you use non-damage arcane

[fierce lark]

damage on a boar riven is actually quite good, since savvy is bugged on a lot of incarnon weapons

[atomic talon]

yeah when it comes to rivens listen to anyone who says differently then I.

[zealous rapids]

and since boar has pretty high dispo, you can just replace serration with riven and be in +

[coral crest]

it takes base stats right?

[fierce lark]

it runs ppb normally, so you can just drop that and run the riven instead for a lot more damage, more incarnon mode heat and some heat in incarnoff mode

[fierce lark]

yeah it ignores +damage from incarnon evos, and ignores aoe damage if that's present. thats why it's useless on burston

and torid iirc, probably a lot of other things too

[zealous rapids]

crux is fun with boar, especially if you use more than just mod for fire rate

like fire rate bond on companion, or even arcane tempo

[civic cradle]

what elements do you guys use with your boar? do all roads lead to viral or is blast/corrosive good too

[fierce lark]

i haven't used the boar but i imagine you can run pure viral, since the incarnon is pure heat

+heat always helps the heat dot but you can add other things like cleanse, fire rate, elementalist

[boreal sandal]

TY that worked well with gauss thermal transfer. thing get a little chaostic during the final phase trying to prioritise certain vanguard but all is well.

I lose 24% duration but i suppose its worth it. I think ill use this augment in my regular build too afterthis

[mellow palm]

So my sancti magistar is able to achieve 165 million damage in one slam, i dropped organ slasher since i have plenty of crit damage now, i use weeping wounds

[summer trout]

best melee ingame?

[mellow palm]

Depends on what type of melee you want, the playstyle too

[summer trout]

somthing with over 1 atk speed and ok range

[quiet laurel]

nami solo incarnon

[summer trout]

il check that out

1-10 how good is mesa prime?

[fierce lark]

like

9

[summer trout]

gauss prime?

[quiet laurel]

I'd say 6-7

gauss is a 10

[summer trout]

well that dropped pretty fast

why is mesa 6-7?

[quiet laurel]

stationary in her 4 means very vulnerable to dmg

needs quite insane investment to make her not ass to play

[summer trout]

oh

[novel bear]

Secondary fortifier though

Also waltz fits in exilus and there’s nothing she especially needs in there

[quiet laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-footed-sure-footed-warframe-sure-footed-gif-2976538678452841170

[fierce lark]

you can't even be knocked or staggered while you're in peacemaker can you?

[novel bear]

Secondary fortifier

[abstract bison]

the stagger animation can still play with peacemaker active in some instances

here's my experimental Mesa build lol

so far it works great

don't even need firerate arcane since it's already built into the exalted

[lavish orbit]

You can be pushed away or knock from high cliff

[lavish orbit]

Impetus ? Waste

Wait why full archon

[abstract bison]

it's supposed to synergize with encumber

[abstract bison]

proc gambling with encumber lol

[lavish orbit]

I need to try that

[abstract bison]

pure heat turns into random single and combined elements it's fun lol

you reach 13 stacks of impetus in no time

helps out the negative efficiency from blind rage

[ivory stirrup]

is this build solid for sp? im tryna unlock sp so i js wanted to have a build ready for when i get there

its for gauss prime

[abstract bison]

the empty slot can be anything really, an augment mod or streamline or maybe even energy nexus lmao

or augur secrets if you really want to

personally i have roar on the 1st slot and then the piercing roar augment for added, pseudo cc and qol range for teammates

then the roar increases the damage from all of the random elemental DoT's

very silly build

also galv shot on the peestol

so insane gun co

[lavish orbit]

I'll make a return later about your build, seems fun

[abstract bison]

and don't forget the 5 amber shards bc it's a pure heat regulator build with fire rate already built in

[lavish orbit]

Already on her

[abstract bison]

niceu

[lavish orbit]

I need to sacrifice a build slot to try tho

I mained her the entirety of 2025

[karmic badger]

At what point does hot shot become worth while? Mines only rank 2

[abstract bison]

oh wait if ur comfortable without preparation then just mesa's waltz and rolling guard on the empty slot

now i'm thinking about running vazarin for survivability

and just using that lol

very flexible

[summer trout]

is buying an archon mod a bad idea or not?

[frosty fjord]

from another player or?

[lavish orbit]

Not a bad idea

[summer trout]

yeah from another player

[lavish orbit]

Oh ye for platinum yes irs bad

[summer trout]

btw im using gauss rn but im thinking abt buying meaa prime

[karmic badger]

I don't remember if buying mods from other players includes the level, fairly sure you're mainly paying for the endo

[abstract bison]

i would buy an unranked version and just fill it out myself

[frosty fjord]

archon mods also have the 1mil trade tax cus its a legendary rarity item

[abstract bison]

or keep playing kahl of duty every week

[summer trout]

gauss prime or mesa prime?

[summer trout]

not there yet

[karmic badger]

2 different frames that do 2 different things...

[summer trout]

i alr have gauss but should i mesa?

[frosty fjord]

mesa is good too yes

[karmic badger]

She's a bit of an investment

[abstract bison]

plenty of ways to build mesa

acolyte mods, archon mods, umbral mods lol

[summer trout]

i think i watched to much mesa edits

[abstract bison]

really can't go wrong with mesa

[lavish orbit]

Well, if you invest only in damage, yes, besides that, no

[summer trout]

i mean gauss is amazing but i need more damage

[karmic badger]

I think the more economical option is investing in a better weapon

Can't go wrong with a Cedo...

[abstract bison]

fortifier on the peacemaker is super comfy but personally i'd rather outsource that on the arsenal secondary instead

[lavish orbit]

Did try a bit of things

[summer trout]

buy mesa? yes or no?

[frosty fjord]

isnt she out in the resurgence relics rn

[summer trout]

yeah but im shit out of luck

[frosty fjord]

i'd still try that first tbh

[summer trout]

20 aya burned for 1 chassis

[zealous rapids]

did you maybe got something else that you can sell and buy the part you wanted

[summer trout]

caliban bp?

prime*

[abstract bison]

cascadia flare and arcane hotshot were just made to be used together because they're both 10 second duration arcanes and proc on heat status instance

[zealous rapids]

one caliban bp from 20 aya?

[summer trout]

yeah.

[abstract bison]

only time they're separated is if you have your companion as a heat primer

[summer trout]

im missing eveything cept the chassis

buy mesa or not?

[zealous rapids]

when I spent 20 aya on akjagra prime barrel, I almost completed ember prime set and volt prime set, playing with pubs

[lavish orbit]

Ok this is funny

[summer trout]

and i did get a few volt and ember prime bp

like the parts for the ember and volt

[abstract bison]

maybe i could remove impetus and replace it with arcane circumvent and then replace preparation with mesa's waltz and add rolling guard too

[lavish orbit]

That's also fun, circumvent + waltz + rolling guard + careen on melee

[abstract bison]

melee careen redeemer prime as a bonus lmao

[karmic badger]

Counterpoint, use Nokko's subsume and never worry about energy

[abstract bison]

melee careen on the redeemer or a non influence glaive

[karmic badger]

Bounce on that thang

[summer trout]

shoukd i just keep trying mesa relics and buy what i cant get?

[old marsh]

Thinking Sevagoth’s nuke build could use it

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[karmic badger]

Best part is you can have gloom up 100%

Though if you're going for the 2-1 nuke setup, you'll have to get power strength up to like 400%

Since you're not running Roar

[lavish orbit]

Speaking about amber archon shard for crit chance, using Sagek with that would be good

[karmic badger]

Actually, does brightbonnet still offer power strength as a subsume?

[lavish orbit]

Yes

[lavish orbit]

But you are stuck with watch protea's build 48% str

238% base str*

[karmic badger]

Yeah you can't really pull off the 1 shot nuke without roar

But a 2 shot with infinite energy is pretty good too eh?

[lavish orbit]

Priming viral doesn't help that much ?

[coral crest]

it has all the effects, just reduced. Arbucep interaction also isnt removed

its raw energy gain so it works while your channel abilities are active

[fierce lark]

im slightly late but encumber regulators sounds really really bad

[trim hill]

Flashbacks to Gazal Machete

[karmic badger]

Isn't it like 3-5 viral per target to be effective?

[coral crest]

the stupidest thing about Brightbonnet subsume is that the initial throw is coded as a weapon projectile, so qorvex's passive makes it borderline unusable

[old marsh]

Nvm then. Garbage subsume

[coral crest]

roar sevanuke sucks, just offload viral priming

[karmic badger]

Panzer Vulp: Im tired boss

[coral crest]

who CARES about panzer

[old marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1455620210462560327/G8N_qMeWgAceX9u.png?ex=69556376&is=695411f6&hm=d50ff6ad3ddfa05b77b9f2585f2b3d08f23d3bd1b7478134a86115dd2a44b8cd&

Shut it punk

[coral crest]

we use hounds in this household

and moa-

[karmic badger]

Build-a-dog type shi

[coral crest]

ok :3

[trim hill]

Dethcube got all my Viral, ty

[old marsh]

That’s illegal

[coral crest]

see, perfect

[karmic badger]

My hound likes to spread Nokko's spore toxin procs, so suddenly my screen is covered in purple elemental procs and everythings dead

[coral crest]

panzer poopaphyla

[old marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159566087059419156/1455620210462560327/G8N_qMeWgAceX9u.png?ex=69556376&is=695411f6&hm=d50ff6ad3ddfa05b77b9f2585f2b3d08f23d3bd1b7478134a86115dd2a44b8cd&

Enough slander

[coral crest]

i need to rename my hound

i named it after an elden ring npc because of a stupid pun

[karmic badger]

My pets are stupidly named lmao
Boomer the Kubrow
Katze the Kavat
Kerberos the Charger
K9000 Cyberdog the Hound
Robo-Chicken the MOA

[lavish orbit]

Named my Pharaoh has "Toutankarton" (All in cardboad), french joke for Toutankamon the real pharaoh... I'm not using it

[mellow palm]

Man, i need toxin damage only to deal with those pesky corpus

My magistar always 2 slams to get rid of them

[coral crest]

sometimes i use petfinder names to name my warframe pets

[mighty flare]

Do you not have raw toxin modded on it?

[mellow palm]

I do, but my riven has heat, oof

[mighty flare]

Don’t use the riven then

[mellow palm]

Then no funny red damage 🙁

[mighty flare]

Doesn’t Magistar reach that without it

[mellow palm]

I know, but i want to see how far i can push the damage

Btw the riven has critical chance so no, i'm not dropping it

[old marsh]

wants red numbers but still slams twice and complains about it

[mighty flare]

It has heat so you should

[mellow palm]

Lmao

I guess the gas proc will take care of them

[limpid basin]

hey guys, any suggestion for this Thalys light spam build? Im using Kullervo for all the crits, with arcane strike. I use the explosive growth evo btw

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[mighty flare]

Corpus are the weakest enemies if a riven is making Magistar take twice as long it’s a pretty shyte riven

[coral crest]

never ask a riven user what their negative is

[abstract bison]

I just name my companions monster hunter names

[mellow palm]

Mine is -103,5% crit chance for slide attack, i use slam so i don't mind it

[karmic badger]

-200% rizz

[mellow palm]

222.8% crit chance, 101.9% heat and 9.2 combo duration, which i don't need much

I don't need combo duration since i use melee crescendo

[mighty flare]

That’s an ass riven

[mellow palm]

Shhh

[mighty flare]

😭

[old marsh]

U don’t need heat either

[mellow palm]

Nah, if it kills it's good

[old marsh]

But it doesn’t as u said

[mellow palm]

Gas proc will take care of it, i use weeping wounds for that reason

[old marsh]

So it’s not good. Your words. Not mine

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[mellow palm]

I mean, really depends on how you see it

[mighty flare]

Coping a heat riven with ww?

[old marsh]

Tutorial on how to make the best slam weapon in the game into shit

[void bane]

What’s a good build for caliban prime.

[mellow palm]

Again, that's how i play, i'm not obliged to listen to you about how "bad" it is

[green solstice]

Im looking into a nekros build and I want to ask why a nekros requires 215% strength?

[mellow palm]

Armor strip from his 2nd i remember

[old marsh]

This is what I have. It’s good enough for SP. I haven’t take him to lvl cap so no idea

[mellow palm]

Or boost up his summon

[green solstice]

wasnt that always around 160 ish for full strip?

[mellow palm]

It could be for ore gaze if you plan to subsume it

[green solstice]

nah it the build Im looking at is one newer who is using 2nd and 4th aug with 214 strength and 145 range

[old marsh]

Full armor strip with terrify but I think it should be lower

[old marsh]

Ye. Should 164 with corr proj

Ideally for defense type missions u want low range high str. For general stuff u want medium range, str & Dur

[mellow palm]

Wym copimg

If that's how you see it, that's fine, i still play with it

[green solstice]

so Im not required to run a super high range build?

[burnt lodge]

lets cope with heat

https://tenor.com/view/dread-gif-9297534368979050018

[fierce lark]

that is indeed some copium

[burnt lodge]

copium pro max

[coral crest]

i can play the game again

[fierce lark]

cantic phahd certus my beloved

[old marsh]

Nah. Stretch & augur reach r fine. Don’t run blind rage coz terrify is expensive

[fierce lark]

gazes at ur ores

[abstract bison]

i use a pure quills amp with the lohrin brace bc i was too lazy

[fierce lark]

cata shields should be transient but i cba to change polarity

[abstract bison]

i also have a 777 but it feels worse to use than the 143 lol

pew

[astral tinsel]

that's because propa (x7x) sucks outside of eidolons and klamora (7xx) sucks in general

[stark torrent]

why is it that im not able to equip greedy pull to nekros? i have the mod but its not showing up when i search for it

[abstract bison]

the flamethrower beam still somehow reaches the void angel lol

i've been thinking about the grenade launcher prism

[astral tinsel]

oh yeah that's one thing it's sort of useful for

because of the decent burst dps

but it goes through ammo way too quickly

[abstract bison]

raplak prism is awesome if you can aim

[mellow palm]

Bruh

If you lose slash, does that mean your nami is a blunt weapon?

[burnt lodge]

other status weightage

[astral tinsel]

cutlass -> lass

it turns into a woman

[abstract bison]

the raplak prism feels like a more responsive pencha scaffold to me

[mellow palm]

I know, it's a joke bruh

[abstract bison]

and my first amp before reaching max standing was this shitty 212 setup lmao

[astral tinsel]

oof

[burnt lodge]

that is copium pro anyways

[astral tinsel]

my first was 123, now using 547 mainly

kinda miss raplak, but cantic does more dps

[abstract bison]

we needed rank 3 on quills for the lohrin brace

i was rank 2 for literal years because i hated doing eidolon

[fierce lark]

as much as lowering bad status weightings is theoretically good, less damage is still less damage, it's not ideal

[mighty flare]

using a mod to accommodate a riven?

[abstract bison]

funny how getting a close to meta amp made me love eidolon hunting

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/kuva-riven-warframe-meme-warframe-meme-gif-5273051763741474746

[fierce lark]

especially when that damage is slash, which is a good status to spread with influence

[abstract bison]

a good amp and madurai

[mighty flare]

anyway if ur doing status on the magistar you swap to sancti or use lavos

[astral tinsel]

idk if you're joking or not

[mellow palm]

Imma try out ruvox, looks promising

[astral tinsel]

but in case you aren't you can't spread slash

[fierce lark]

unintentionally joking

[abstract bison]

i maxed out all of my waybounds and nodes passively without eidolon hunting except for the shards needed to unbind

[fierce lark]

ok maybe -slash on influence is pretty slick

[mellow palm]

Ok then

[burnt lodge]

AS Range elec -slash is a groll on nami solo for a reason

[mellow palm]

Bruh, i'm using sancti, not normal variant

[mighty flare]

how would anyone know that if you only said magi 😭

[mellow palm]

My bad gng

Forgot to include one extra word

[mighty flare]

that one extra word is actually important when builds differ between variants

[fierce lark]

is there a sheet that shows grolls for every wep? kinda curious now

[mellow palm]

Normal magistar only miss that 10% crit chance, i just drop it instantly

Not worth it

[burnt lodge]

use altair or smth i think someone here had a doc for grolls

forgot who

[mellow palm]

Switched to corrosive heat now, forgot gas is half effective against scaldra

[coral crest]

Hmm, building loki or harrow next

(prime)

[mellow palm]

Build father harrow

[abstract bison]

build Lyon

[mellow palm]

Or despicable loki

[abstract bison]

and the scourge prime and knell prime

[coral crest]

They both have banger deluxe skins

[abstract bison]

scourge prime with the new debilitate

[coral crest]

And both are good

Hm

[abstract bison]

primer stick that you throw

[mellow palm]

High status weapon eating good

[abstract bison]

and shoot sometimes

[mellow palm]

Like sybaris incarnon

[abstract bison]

i have an acuity gas build on it instead of multishot lol

gas blast like the vesper

[mellow palm]

Ok that's a warcrime

[abstract bison]

but faster

[mellow palm]

But if it works, it works

[coral crest]

Not quite

[mellow palm]

Using kunai with Ash is actually fun though

[coral crest]

Debilitate only inflicts one extra status per damage instance

[mellow palm]

Kunai incarnon

[abstract bison]

it works really really well, the gas clouds linger and still does reasonable damage even if they're not scaled by the acuity headshots

[coral crest]

So if your weapon inflicts more than 1 combined status per shot it's wasted

[mellow palm]

Do you also use galvanize scope?

[coral crest]

Which is why Debilitate is a lot weaker on beams than it could potentially be

[abstract bison]

no i just use crit delay and then primed shred

[mellow palm]

Overcharge then

[abstract bison]

so i can just hipfire like a cowboy and still hit heads through sheer firerate

[mellow palm]

Use Ash with his smoke screen augment to get those extra +150% crit chance if you have him

Kinda funny how Ash's teleportation can teleport to ally, but the description doesn't include that

[abstract bison]

on this acuity build, all i need is crit delay to reach the desired crit tier

[mellow palm]

I see

[abstract bison]

the third incarnon evolution already helps it alot too

[mellow palm]

What's the 3rd evolution i forgot

[abstract bison]

increased base crit chance and status chance

survivor's edge

[mellow palm]

Uh oh, i have dejavu lmao, dejavu about this conversation

[mellow palm]

Right that

Kunai incarnon isn't that bad tbh, i use blast for it and with Ash? Chef kiss

[abstract bison]

something something 105% cc with just crit delay and then headshot only 400% through acuity

or was it 300%

[coral crest]

Kunai incarnon is very good idk what people say

[astral tinsel]

hey if you can get 10 stacks without multishot...

[mellow palm]

350% on headshot

[abstract bison]

haha i was close

[mellow palm]

The problem is when you stand too close and toss it

It just don't work, or go wonky

Which is really annoying

[abstract bison]

you hipfire at their general direction with good fire rate and punchthrough at a certain angle and you get headshots

things explode, things die

[mellow palm]

Do you use riven for it?