builds-discussion

[coral plank]

shield gating gruugh

Never really got the shield gating right

[median heron]

Not to mention that even just having shields without actively building for it can save your ass passively

And guardian on pet theres 2 free gates every so often

[coral plank]

I think its cuz I keep panicking everytime I see my screen gets lightish blue

[median heron]

Now you wont need to panic you just gon be ded 😄

[coral plank]

Other then shield gating, its either kill everyone in the room or go invisible -both are hard to come by somtimes

[mighty pelican]

shield gaters when toxic eximus

[coral plank]

How toxicating

[median heron]

High level toxin will kill you regardless

[coral plank]

Except for Revenant

Always a Revenant

[mighty pelican]

unless u use the new arcane

[median heron]

Lucky that theyre easily spotted and avoided

Idk about you but i dont want to dedicate an arcane for 1 specific eximis unit

[mighty pelican]

we need a toxin on player rework..

[coral plank]

I have a Secondary Fortifier specifically for an Eximus

[mighty pelican]

should just scale exponentionally in a way that it hardly can oneshot you

[upper ingot]

Does anyone have a Voruna build?

[coral plank]

Btw, I was in a hiatus for a long while, did they change anything about the orange archon shards?

[mighty pelican]

nope

[fervent rapids]

Only time they were changed was like right after their release

[coral plank]

The most less used archon ive seen by my own eyes, regret making two tauforged

[ruby lantern]

For an evade harrow. Is dual toxy the best gun?

[coral plank]

Torid

[rocky aurora]

Its actually goated for secondary crit rate and radiation ability damage

The other ones are ass

[near vortex]

Kunai and Knell Prime are both good

[coral plank]

I forgot when I tried to use the rad ability damage bonus with the reap and sow trick since I remembered that it deals radiation during or I think after?

[near vortex]

Sevagoth you just hit 255% strength with Roar and the reap and sow combo one taps everything

[fervent rapids]

Sow deals Radiation, Reap deals True damage and Radiation

[coral plank]

I have 303 strength lmao, I gotta fix this nuke build

[rocky aurora]

If youre using roar, it should be one shotting

[livid hollow]

Greetings yall, I'm a baby tenno only MR5, and have been granted the gift of Kullervo who is SUPER fun. Does anyone have good suggestions around early game build ideas like weapons to shoot for, etc?

[fervent rapids]

Broken War is a good early-game melee

[obsidian agate]

HELP!!! 1 or 2 please ?

[forest pivot]

Depends on how u want to build it

[obsidian agate]

influence

no reason to make heat + burning hate, influence outdamages that

[forest pivot]

For influence go with the 1st one

[forest pivot]

Why not both

[obsidian agate]

impossible

[forest pivot]

Subsume shock trooper on your frame

[native elbow]

As a hate riven hoarder, I can say I'd prefer by far the first

[forest pivot]

Heat elec hate is disgustingly good

Burning hate and elementalist are multiplicative

[native elbow]

I mean you shouldn't get a riven that only allows you to do a certain playstyle unless you plan on getting more of them for each specialised one

I wouldn't want to need shock trooper on my frames

[forest pivot]

Your whole build should be incorporated

[obsidian agate]

how can you make only heat and separate electricity ?

[forest pivot]

You don't have to just slap a weapon build together and say "eh good enough"

[forest pivot]

Shock Trooper

Shock trooper's elec buff doesn't combine with modded heat

[native elbow]

Does the heat from the projectile combine with modded elements? As I remember it does

[forest pivot]

This is why different subsume/mod configs are available

[forest pivot]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't but I'm not home to check and I haven't actually used Hate in months

[severe bough]

It does combine

[native elbow]

I can check rn gimme 2 minutes

Okay then

[forest pivot]

Oh wait modded elements yeah

[severe bough]

But influence still triggers but just use any elc ability

[native elbow]

So you can't get heat and electric without shock trooper. Damn

Yeah yeah but you can't trigger burning hate

[forest pivot]

Shock Trooper is the goat for hate

Too bad Hate's projectiles are kinda mid or it would be my weapon of choice for Volt

Hate with modded elec is also good tbf. It'll wipe any normal content and the radiation from the projectiles does get spread by influence and that indirectly gives you some decent survivability

[native elbow]

I personally have several hate rivens, but I think attack speed is the best stat since hate is a really slow weapon

I use this riven 24/7

[forest pivot]

Attack speed range elec is probably groll for an influence build, and atk speed heat cd is probably best for a burning hate build

[obsidian agate]

wow

[forest pivot]

Atk speed is insanely good for most melees

Since the atk speed mods are pretty low statted

[native elbow]

I'd argue attack speed, crit chance, crit damage is probably the best all rounder riven you could get. If you ever get it, keep it

[forest pivot]

Yup for sure

Range is also good on everything although not necessary all the time

[native elbow]

Yep

I like hate because I used to play a lot of mirage disruptions with it for fun, and with the first light attack swing I one shot level cap demos

[rocky aurora]

Volt subsume augment mod is non-combinable electric

[forest pivot]

Jesus

[rocky aurora]

Oh im stupid

[obsidian agate]

tried now, OP as walking on water

[rocky aurora]

Yea volt subsume is peak af

[novel bear]

Do it on volt so you also get attack speed buff and can subsume wa

[rocky aurora]

Augment*

[timid dust]

What archon shards do I put on Mesa Prime?
-# Some of the mods on the regulators contain 'prime' above them, which means that I havent aquired the primed versions yet
-# Also lethal torrent doesnt fit, i need to get another forma, thats why I replaced it with letters

[rocky aurora]

Yea it's even better on volt

[forest pivot]

5x purple

[native elbow]

Do it on mirage with wa and mod electric trust

[novel bear]

Do it on lavos

[timid dust]

What??? 😭

[rocky aurora]

Heat build: tau orange for secondary crit

Toxin build: 2 regular green for full armor strip and you can still put orange shards, it stacks crit chance on kills from Heat that is applied from any source

[forest pivot]

375% redeemer crit damage 🔥

[novel bear]

That’s orange

[forest pivot]

Ur using mesas signature weapon right

Redeemer prime

[native elbow]

Secondary merciless is not the best choice. If you want a min maxxed build, I recommend using secondary outburst

[rocky aurora]

Eh

[timid dust]

I dont have it maxed yet thats why its there...

[native elbow]

Oh yeah sry

[rocky aurora]

Fortifier is BiS imo, mesa needs the survivability for hard content and she needs the extra damage vs overguard

[novel bear]

Outburst is a pain, unless you’re doing cascade level cap don’t bother

[timid dust]

What do you mean? Whats the difference beetween the builds you mentioned, and the current build I have

[undone dust]

also shatter shield just inherits fortifer which is really funny

[native elbow]

Also instead of arcane avenger think of using something like arcane hot shot

[obsidian agate]

can i use influence electric for general use and when i want to have fun to use influence AND burning hate ? so i dont subsume shock trooper on frames i already have nourish ??

[novel bear]

I thought damage reduction didn’t apply to overguard?

[timid dust]

what about this

[native elbow]

Does it need to be on the exalted or just on your secondary?

[undone dust]

the redirection portion of shield inherits fortifer

[rocky aurora]

Toxin build is modding only Toxin in her Regulators and using archon continuity to also proc Corrosive. 2 regular green shards = full armor strip which is almost instant because her Regulators should have like 25-30 fire rate

Heat build is just increasing your crit and does not scale as well as Toxin build, because it doesn't full strip armor

[undone dust]

either or

[native elbow]

Uuu

[novel bear]

Oh, that’s funny

[undone dust]

its works how cold ward inheriting fortfier does

[timid dust]

So Whats recommended? Heat?

[rocky aurora]

On Hate, yes but combined elements from Heat suck really bad so I dont recommend

[native elbow]

Don't think you really need full armor strip since you have already heat and corrosive

[rocky aurora]

Heat is worse for harder content, my personal favorite is Toxin because it scales to level cap

[obsidian agate]

what do you mean ?

[rocky aurora]

Gas and radiation suck

[novel bear]

Blast and gas can be good with specific builds on specific weapons

They generally aren’t worth building for

[timid dust]

So what do I change to go for a toxin build (mod wise) and then what archon shards do I throw?

[undone dust]

that first half is definitely a sentence

[novel bear]

Heat is the strongest single target dot

[rocky aurora]

Full armor strip means getting rid of the additional 20% DR from enemies (or however its calculated), allows you to comfortably do harder content without sitting there shooting the same enemy for 30 seconds

[native elbow]

What build do you use with toxin? I tried level cap cascade with her yesterday with the heat build with the new heat operator arcane and it does well still

[rocky aurora]

In context to mesa regulators, yes

[rocky aurora]

Regular mesa build just toxin + archon continuity

[native elbow]

Do you also have archon vitality since you can also proc heat from operator arcane?

[rocky aurora]

I don't use heat on regulators

[native elbow]

You get it for free tho, and it doesn't combine with your elements

[rocky aurora]

Toxin also bypasses shields so it's perfect for corpus and the corrupted enemies with shields

[rocky aurora]

?

[timid dust]

what do I change to go for a toxin build (mod wise) and then what archon shards do I throw?

[native elbow]

This, you can have for free on mesa

[rocky aurora]

I mean sure, if you want

[native elbow]

So you can also use archon vitality and then instead of proccing 1 toxin proc, you proc 2 toxin procs

Because your weapon also does heat damage

[undone dust]

that is not how that works

vitality only applies to heat procs

[wild rune]

did you drop this screenshot in a vat of blue paint or something

[rocky aurora]

Hmm 🤔 im not sure about sacrificing a mod slot for health and possibility of funky coding

[native elbow]

The description says otherwise tho

[wild rune]

only heat procs specifically are doubled

[native elbow]

Oh... it just says heat damage on mod

[novel bear]

The description is wrong

[native elbow]

Rip

[rocky aurora]

Mods can be wrong unfortunately

Almost purposefully misleading lol

[native elbow]

Well for me it's worth it since my heat DoTs have a 4.15 multiplier and I proc mostly heat

[rocky aurora]

Crit multishot firerate primed toxin mod

On mesa herself, just fit archon continuity in somewhere and put in 2 regular green shards for full armor strip

[novel bear]

Archon vitality is entirely wrong
It says procs are doubled, they’re not, but it’s +1 proc instead
It says procs from abilities that deal heat damage, but it’s just heat procs

[timid dust]

What do you mean on the first part

[rocky aurora]

Her Regulators

[timid dust]

ALSO replace the normal toxin mod with the primed version?

[undone dust]

secondaries dont have a primed tox mod

[timid dust]

^^

[rocky aurora]

Oop you right

[undone dust]

they only have primed elec and heat rn

[rocky aurora]

Just take oit the word primed then

[native elbow]

But you do know that the armor strip you're missing if you just did heat with corrosive with no corrosive shards is equivalent to around 10% dr right?

[rocky aurora]

Modding in corrosive and heat just takes away slots from her Regulators

[native elbow]

You don't need to mod heat anymore

You have 250% from operator

[thin oxide]

which one should I keep?

[rocky aurora]

If youre playing level cap cascade, sure lol

[undone dust]

eh you still should instead of solely relying on your operator and tauron strike kills

[native elbow]

I only play her for cascade so I do stay at least one hour in a match. Normally yes, mesa is super overkill anyways

[rocky aurora]

But that just means I can rely on that arcane and save mod slots for more damage rather than modding in heat and corrosive

Granted, I want to try it because I havent yet

[native elbow]

Yep

[rocky aurora]

I havent had issues with toxin build forever, but being away for the holidays has kept me from trying out these different combos

All I can do is be squidward looking oit the window

[native elbow]

If I told you I have an inviz excalibur level cap toxin build would you think I'm on crack?

[rocky aurora]

Yes

😆

[native elbow]

[timid dust]

idk guys im just following these two, and wanna know what archon shards i put

https://overframe.gg/build/421023/mesa-prime/high-noon-mesa-op-critical-build-guide/
https://overframe.gg/build/421034/regulators-prime/best-in-the-west-regulators/

[undone dust]

go the titania route and run tox blast xatas

[rocky aurora]

Ive seen some dumby excal builds but personally I'll stick to influence excal for level cap

[native elbow]

You have to rely on slash dash sadly, but now since your shields are immune, it's decent

[rocky aurora]

Have to do that anyway to survive past level 300 lol

[undone dust]

persistence excal is a method that exists

[native elbow]

Ong. I hate that sm tho

[rocky aurora]

I love the sword gameplay and blowing everything up but dang I have to spam slash dash everywhere lmao

[native elbow]

So... shield gate is 1.33 seconds. That, with a health build, is at most 2😭

Unless you run panzer cheese

[undone dust]

life strike

[rocky aurora]

Magnetic, nullifier, Violence...

[native elbow]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm... I need to try that

[rocky aurora]

With ping bugs preventing nullifier bubbles from popping, I will never touch Persistence

[undone dust]

you could quite literally say that about almost every persistence frame

[native elbow]

Mind you, I use it on Inaros as intended

[rocky aurora]

Exactly, theres a reason why Inaros is on the bottom of the list for popularity

[timid dust]

can anyone help me with this please?

[rocky aurora]

I would've loved to finally use him but the persistence nuke nerf on arrival killed it

[native elbow]

I mean it's okay

[rocky aurora]

This looks fine ig

[native elbow]

Inaros has an inbuilt status cleanse so magnetic does not matter

[rocky aurora]

Not what id use but I still have to test the new stuff myself

[timid dust]

Fine enough to handle sp cap?

[rocky aurora]

Status immunity or cleanse? Because persistence is still disabled if it's only a cleanse

[native elbow]

What???

[rocky aurora]

No

[timid dust]

😭

[rocky aurora]

Mesa requires shield gating and fortifier to survive that, afaik

I also only have loke 130% str in my Mesa and she kills level cap just fine 🤷‍♂️

[native elbow]

Look, I run Wyrm for status immunity, but if status cleanse does not turn back on persistence, that is just sad

[rocky aurora]

Id have to look up what the cooldown is for persistence to turn back on

[timid dust]

Then what do I do? ;-; I just want a good mesa build that can handle level cap along with her regulators.

[rocky aurora]

But any mag proc disables it

[rocky aurora]

Shield gating, so brief respite aura and fortifier on her Regulators

[native elbow]

So I guess persistence with wyrm is the way to go then

[rocky aurora]

Overguard health scales super high at level cap

[native elbow]

Or just put a magnetic mod that also gives crit damage, that's what I do

[rocky aurora]

Yea. Iirc the mag disable was to prevent players from making the hard bosses a walk in the park with any frame

[native elbow]

Also gives more CO

[rocky aurora]

Co is additive though

[undone dust]

fortfier is for the overguard gate and status immunity

[rocky aurora]

Wasting a slot for magnetic is a waste imo

[native elbow]

It's fine

[timid dust]

Is there any complete guide to it? (Archon shards, mesa, regulators, etc)

[rocky aurora]

No, its not

Additive damage is one of the worst ways to increase your damage

[native elbow]

Is it? One slot you get +120% damage, +60% magnetic, once overguard breaks you also get electric so another +120% and you do at least +100% multiplicative damage to overguard since that's what magnetic does

Oh and critical damage

[rocky aurora]

And fortifier deletes the og instantly

I use mag on my heat furis for lvl cap thrax because the electric proc basically 1 shots it, but I wouldn't use it for regulators

Furis is just another level

[undone dust]

do tox procs inherit fortifier's damage like heat procs do?

[native elbow]

Didn't know that's a thing

[rocky aurora]

Idk theres nothing in the wiki for that interaction

[native elbow]

Heat furis just melts on anything with anything tbh😂

[undone dust]

i would assume not since tox doesn't have anything like heat does with heat inherit

[rocky aurora]

I would assume the same

[native elbow]

I think you're getting the wrong idea but I'm not sure. I think you mean that, when you proc a heat proc with a weapon with fortifier, the heat proc remembers the weapon it was procced by, and then when you use a warframe ability that procs heat, it will think it's the fortified weapon, right?

[rocky aurora]

Not exactly

[native elbow]

That's what I know is with protea

[rocky aurora]

The first heat proc is what determines how the heat damsge scales. Subsequent heat procs scale with the original heat procs multipliers like faction mods and status damage mods

So you use a weapon that is built for these multipliers, that are multiplicative with each other, which then means all subsequent heat procs will use those same multipliers regardless of the source

[native elbow]

Yep but will just have the base damage/2 of the weapon you're currently using I think

[rocky aurora]

Thats how heat damage is calculated, yes

[native elbow]

Idk if the initial one also saves fortifier tho

Cuz that's what they were asking I think

[undone dust]

it does

heat inherits fortifier's overguard damage multi

[old marsh]

left

coz u get CC from hata satya

[native elbow]

damn. I need to use fortifier on more builds lmao

[undone dust]

yeah, there's alot of jank with fortifier

cold ward inherits the overguard generation from it, as does shatter shield
thalys (shard explosion evo) and sow on sevagoth can generate overguard from fortifier
DoTs in general i believe slowly generate overguard from fortifier

xatas used to generate overguard with it but i believe that was fixed

[rocky aurora]

If you have an amp with the bouncing glaive alt fire, you can fire it, quickly switch to your frame, and the glaive will proc Fortifier 😆

For some reason lol

[native elbow]

I used that so often😂

[undone dust]

that was fixed, as well as all the other phahd bugs

so no more phahd influence either

[native elbow]

Noooo

[river palm]

rip 🙏, luckily amps got a major buff

[rocky aurora]

Yea we no longer have to run madurai for cascade or to quickly revive yourself with last gasp

[native elbow]

Idk if the amp mods also affect the glaives tho... I noticed the amp multishot increased my damage a lot on normal fire but not on glaive hits

[fervent rapids]

Phahd is still busted tho

[native elbow]

I run madurai even more now since Imo it has the most busted tauron strike and tauron tree

tauron strike also kills spectral thrax btw

[undone dust]

who needs to kill spectral thrax when you can just completely ignore it with soul punch

[native elbow]

I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANIC FOR THAT

Can you turn them on your side?

[undone dust]

hit smite twice then soul punch

[undone dust]

yes, it negates the spectral form and turns the thrax into a shadow

[native elbow]

And does it ever die?

[undone dust]

they die like nekros's shadows do, yeah

[native elbow]

🙁

[river palm]

it definitely increases the damage by a lot

[undone dust]

but since his shadows scale with level theyll become considerably more tanky the longer you go

[river palm]

and you can see two glaives being shot most of the time with the multi shot mod

[native elbow]

Oh so it does. That's awesome

[fervent rapids]

Multishot for Amps is still such an insane boost, can't believe they gave us that

[native elbow]

I see. My only level cap nekros build so far is an ocucor build (which yes works on nekros at lvl cap) but I feel like the summons are way too underpowered

Should I subsume over my 4th instead of my 1 then?

[undone dust]

subsume over terrify for smite nekros

you need his 4 + aug for status immunity

[native elbow]

You're asking me to pluck my eyes out rn

[undone dust]

his summons kind of suck until you get to like 3k

[native elbow]

Is terrify the one you actually subsume over?

[undone dust]

yes

[native elbow]

How do you stay alive thenm

[undone dust]

smite strips and you're realistically only using it on thrax anyway

[undone dust]

you can still gate with smite and shadows, add a guardian sentinel for extra help

[native elbow]

I assume you go full inviz for this?

[undone dust]

i might test how persistence feels with it since shadows aug gives status immunity so the only problems would be nullys and violence

[undone dust]

no

your abilities aren't doing any actual killing to think about using invis

[native elbow]

Oh I thought you're actually using smite to kill

What is your preferred weapon for him then? A furis?

[undone dust]

i just use torid/boar for trash and furis for tankier enemies

[native elbow]

I see... with mine I use ocucor for thrax and for trash

I wanted it to mimic a saryn ocucor build, but on nekros

[undone dust]

latron also just nukes everything so that would also work

[native elbow]

Very underrated

I will try to use the soul punch as you said then, I really want pet thrax

[rocky aurora]

Whats great is that I dont have to run dexterity arcanes anymore because I never run out of melee combo with Naramon and I have plenty of damage to kill level cap thrax ghosts

Win win

For the times I dont do the furis+falcor combo 😆

[native elbow]

You can put two of them on your archgun btw, I do that

[rocky aurora]

Doesnt work anymore

[native elbow]

You're kidding me...

[rocky aurora]

I tried that day 1 and my combo timer didnt increase

[native elbow]

Wdym?

[undone dust]

it does, the only thing they fixed was bulwark applying to your other weapons if it was on your archgun

[rocky aurora]

I put 2 dexterity arcanes on my equipped archgun and my combo duration was still 5 seconds

So idk

[violet ermine]

Is this a decent build for Oraxia?

[native elbow]

Have you tried in a match?

[undone dust]

it was working fine for me yesterday

[native elbow]

Missing the roar

[rocky aurora]

First thing I did was a fissure cascade and I noticed my combo duration was 5 seconds lol

Instead of 20

[undone dust]

you cant use roar unless its over her 4

[violet ermine]

[native elbow]

HOW CAN SARYN USE ROAR THEN WAHT

[undone dust]

because toxic lash isnt a damage buff like roar

[native elbow]

😭 😭

[spiral chasm]

toxin lash is the only exception

[native elbow]

This is brain rot. DE needs to allow roar on all damage frames or take it off saryn

[undone dust]

nourish is also an exception

[river palm]

toxic lash not being considered a damage buff is so stupid

[violet ermine]

Also

For green shards on Oraxia, do I maximize poison dmg or corrosion dmg?

[river palm]

its the exact same as xatas except its toxin instead of void

[lone ibex]

What is better on Xaku xatas whisper or Rhinos Rawr

[undone dust]

i run 3 tox and 1 cast and 1 parkour, you dont really need more than 2-3 tox damage shards on her tbh

[native elbow]

I was pissed enough that DE doesn't allow roar on mirage but does on saryn, but now Oraxia too? So you're telling me that temple's damage buff and Roathe's damage buff and all of these are stronger than toxic lash? Yeah. Okay.

[river palm]

depends on the build, xaku is one of the frames i dont like running helminths on.

[violet ermine]

Im putting 5 tox

[lone ibex]

Let's say a all rounder build

[river palm]

the worst part about this game is the inconsistency

[undone dust]

depends, xatas doesnt apply to lohk but roar does, but roar is completely unnecessary

[river palm]

xatas is probably going to be better, especially if you plan on using the 4th augment

also roar is lame and used on everyone

[native elbow]

Nah bro they just treat saryn like their daughter and the rest of the frames are adopted

[undone dust]

truth nuke! or you can still drop xatas and use astral bond on your primer companion like a nerd

[lone ibex]

Yeah I us mainly first second and forth ability

[rocky aurora]

Nerfing saryn would be a diabolical blow to their saryn sales

[undone dust]

also hi i love xaku i have 9 builds currently across my 2 xakus and will be adding more

[native elbow]

This is the only reason they can't take off roar

[gaunt wasp]

Anyone know a good arcane for Ash?

[river palm]

crepuscular is great cause he's always invis

[undone dust]

i need to revisit my health tank xaku

[river palm]

i just remade mine with arcane persistence, vampiric grasp plays into it very nicely

[undone dust]

that is probably the route i was going to go, i just need decide on the subsume again

blood altar was my initial idea as it is a % heal but the range is so abysmal and i hate being locked into a specific area

well of life is also a solid option but it doesnt heal like altar does

if vampiric was a % heal this wouldnt be an issue

[fervent bobcat]

Is any of nekros's augments necessary for his build?
Preferably a farming build?

[fervent rapids]

Despoil

Despoil is like a thing that should be in his base kit

[river palm]

honestly it doesn't really matter, you attack so much + you have the evasion so it being flat doesn't matter too much

[fervent rapids]

synergizes perfectly with his passive

[river palm]

despoil is highkey overrated

it's a mod slot that could be literally anything else, and in this era of warframe energy is never an issue

[undone dust]

truth! despoil is an unnecessary sidegrade

[undone dust]

true but i want to mess around with health tank xaku to cap

[river palm]

with persistence it doesn't matter what level you're fighting, as long as you can heal 500 health per second you're chilling

[fervent bobcat]

Despoil uses 10 health instead of energy
So if i use nekros ability in a room with 100 dead enemies that gonna one shot me?

[undone dust]

i enjoy comfort

i may just toss in vizier for the occasional extra heal

[river palm]

truth, maybe look into uriel's helminth, or just hunter recovery

[undone dust]

is uriel's helminth his heal?

[river palm]

yes it is

[undone dust]

holy shit this might be the thing that saves my sanity

[spiral chasm]

i used gloom when using despoil

[river palm]

it's such a nice helminth, i've been testing it out on a bunch of different frames

[undone dust]

i just need a second uriel

[novel bear]

Desecrate drops a lot of health orbs

[river palm]

despoil is still a wasted mod slot imo

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-truth-nuke-truth-nuke-spiderman-3-truth-nuke-gif-9807931138791679499

just run equil or 1-2 equil shards like a smart person

[river palm]

especially when 1 violet shard solves all of nekros energy problems

[undone dust]

especially with nourish

[karmic badger]

How many energy solutions do we have nowadays lmao? Equilibrium, Energize, Nokko subsume, hell even Universal Fallout if you got a reliable radiation proccer

[velvet pulsar]

Energy Nexus

[karmic badger]

Ol reliable

[velvet pulsar]

52 energy per regular orb

[river palm]

i don't think i've used energize since citrine came out

[karmic badger]

Most players don't have the brainpower to use that

Me included

[velvet pulsar]

https://youtu.be/SB8jZVLuBCs?si=Ji56cRcRzbU8G7Oz

Just Dual Toxocyst

It accidentally shoots energy orbs when shooting at mobs

BTW, it works on universal orbs

[karmic badger]

At some point the real energy chokepoint is enemy density

Which for some frames is already an issue lmao

[velvet pulsar]

This works on universal orbs too.
And on rank 0 it costs absolutely no mod capacity.

[karmic badger]

Wait 0 capacity? Lmao

[velvet pulsar]

Yep
0 cap even when exilus polarity doesn't match!

[karmic badger]

Wakanda type shi is this

[hot prawn]

I need 1000 energy to reach the max, right? And which Wf are using it with? Octavia gave me good results, but doesn't reach the max without many Archon shards.

[velvet pulsar]

And ranking this up isn't recommended as it doesn't increase Equilibrium so rank 0 is optimal

[near crater]

Hey yall so I wanted to go over qorvex again, because SP is obviously beating my ass. Someone said shield gating is good. What do y'all think

[velvet pulsar]

Zenurik ultimate/arcane battery + health conversion

[karmic badger]

If you want to shieldgate, you need to regen shields within your shieldgate duration

[near crater]

For context, I only started Qorvex after I returned many months ago so not much work was put in yet

[near crater]

I'll check

[karmic badger]

My basic shieldgate is fast deflection with arcane aegis, plus a few augur mods to spam abilities to build shields

Honestly with Qorvex's armor and health, healthtanking with arcane persistence and some form of health regen could be easier

[fervent rapids]

Desecrate is Channeled, you'll just have it active as the mission goes on

[velvet pulsar]

Screw persistence
Parasitic Armor + Arcane Expertise propaganda.

[near crater]

I was actually thinking about it, since I just passed roathe. Do need to get more of the resource/currency again (forgot the name), since I spent it on a different arcane

[karmic badger]

I support all forms of wacky survival strategies

[near crater]

Yeah but now is the question: what do I replace with what?

I do have fortitude for knockdown resist and 100% shield regen

Or stick with augur

I only have augur message

Maybe adaptation?

Oh and augur accord. Just found it again lol

[river palm]

any form of survival that isn't ability spamming shield gate i am all in for

[near crater]

Thanks?

[river palm]

brother you send a jumbled wall of thoughts

how do you expect someone ti respond

[near crater]

That's just how my head works I'm sorry okay

"what if this? Oh but what if that?"

[undone dust]

that is also how mine works but it is considerably more coherent

[fierce lark]

passive gate with rolling guard or some kind of ability synergy is pretty brainless survivability

unfortunately it uses up 2-3 mod slots and an arcane so it's mostly for selfish weapon platforms

[near crater]

Yeah

[lavish orbit]

All warframe needs archon shards to get 1k energy iirc

or atleast primed flow + this drift mod that add 10% max energy

[undone dust]

health conversion + arcane battery is all you need to achieve 1k

[lavish orbit]

eeeh not fan

but true !

[upbeat topaz]

How can you apply archon shards

[karmic badger]

Helminth

[upbeat topaz]

Happy hollidays bdw

[lavish orbit]

happy holidays

[real swift]

Is the Burston Prime incarnon still worth investing in? I do have a few others including boltor. I just wasn't sure about the rescource cost

[karmic badger]

Yes, though with incarnons its somewhat subjective

[small copper]

Anyone got a really good phenmor and laetum build by chance?

I ask to prepare to fight the tank and fragmented one

[real swift]

Thank-you for the quick response! I'll get round to sorting it out then

[warm linden]

Hi, Im a returning player and I've got a built cedo, is it worth building the prive version or not?

[karmic badger]

Primes are a straight upgrade over their regular counterpart

[hybrid night]

Can I get a juicy khora build?

[gaunt wasp]

Is Mesa waltz worth it?

[upbeat topaz]

I have returned to warframe after a very long pause (yalking more then 5 years) and a lot have changed, if somebody can help me with my warframe/weapin build and what things should i focus on would be geeat. You can message me in private to understand better, thank you so much

[foggy bolt]

it's a mod used based on feel and maybe if ur using rolling guard

[winter charm]

still interested in khora build?

[hybrid night]

Yes

[winter charm]

Lemme start the game

[hybrid night]

👍

[severe bough]

Its bit more Qol cuz u can trigger Rolling Guard while in 4 but not needed

[undone dust]

waltz is nice with careen for the extra crowd control tbh

[severe bough]

Iirc i got it in exilus but dont even use it all the time since im just jumping in the air to shoot everything

[severe bough]

True

[hybrid night]

No idea why you showed me chroma

[winter charm]

mistake

[hybrid night]

I would’ve taken it as a bonus

[winter charm]

alr then this one is the most powerful build

[hybrid night]

Awesome

I appreciate it

[winter charm]

u can use 5 purple shards

[hybrid night]

I just finished the quests

My helminth is just finishing up rn

[rocky aurora]

Huh?

[winter charm]

It's odd

[hybrid night]

lol

[winter charm]

That's why better to use 5 purple

that blue one gives around 30-50+ shields IDK why

[fervent rapids]

Catalyzing Shields

[rocky aurora]

Shield cap shard is so meme lmao

[fervent rapids]

Archon shard shield boost applies before Catalyzing Shields

[rocky aurora]

Cat shields makes shield gate 1.33 seconds regardless

[hybrid night]

Where do I farm archon shards? Aside from gifted ones from a while ago, I don’t have the source to farm them

[foggy bolt]

archon hunts, netracells, eda, eta

[winter charm]

3 times per week u can get it from sanctum (Tagfer) and 1 from archon raid

[foggy bolt]

oh and bird 3s shiny store

[hybrid night]

I shouldn’t have raised my farming standards from ark survival evolved. This game is going to eat my soul.

[foggy bolt]

yep

[winter charm]

Xdd

[foggy bolt]

have fun

[hybrid night]

Sigh

[foggy bolt]

archon shards are not a necessity but it's nice to have them

[shrewd cobalt]

Why am i dealing like 0 damage

[hybrid night]

More power is fun

[shrewd cobalt]

Or does the alt fire just suck

[gaunt wasp]

I should probably grab because of the movement freedom

[foggy bolt]

the alt fire is just priming

[shrewd cobalt]

Oh

[gaunt wasp]

Also grabbing free mercy kills, which buff the gun

[shrewd cobalt]

Me rn:
https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

(I wws lowkenuinely playing it wrong)

[fervent rapids]

Reading the alt fire stats should have made this apparent

[upbeat topaz]

Can somebody tell me the fix to do some dmg i do like 0 dmg, i will add the primed mods and arcanes when i he the plat

[fervent rapids]

well step 1 is to actually learn why you mod the frame that way rather than just copying a build blindly

[lavish orbit]

Nick is right. The main source of damage is activating your 2nd then your 1st, you will basically nuke the room by doing so

[foggy bolt]

also helps when the build your being spoonfed is actually good

[rocky aurora]

Yea the goal for 1 shot any level is around 255% str w/ roar iirc

[upbeat topaz]

You don t need to be rude, i watched hundreds of guides and i learned him and the mods that i applied, as i said i have returned to warframe after 5 years and i don t have all day to read everything and i said to ask you guys for a brief explanation, i m not stupid to not try my best then ask if i need help but fine

Thanks guys

[rocky aurora]

Yo getting mad when people say the build is bad isn't good, either

[upbeat topaz]

Yeah, i m trying to get rank 3 to unlock helmith

[rocky aurora]

Thats your first goal, then

Ive only come across tileset nuking sevagoth builds, so I genuinely dont know what's going in the screenshots

[foggy bolt]

[limpid basin]

hey guys, does persistence work on kullervo's overguard?

[foggy bolt]

nope :(

[undone dust]

no but it does give you more leeway on his survivability

[foggy bolt]

you are just better off with a dif arcane tbh

cause you normally don't have enough armor

[upbeat topaz]

One more question, i know soma prime is not that great but i loved when it was the best snd farmed a lot for it, i why to switch the slash eith primed slash but i struggle killing mobs in deisom nekralisk. Is the incarnon form that big of an upgrade to help eith lvl 100+mobs?

[undone dust]

all you realistically need is going to be umbral fiber and umbral intensify if you do plan on running persistence

either that or just health conversion instead of umbral fiber

[foggy bolt]

and there's no reason to put armor on kullervo cause it doesn't apply to overguard

so ur just wasting mod slots

[undone dust]

from a level cap perspective the extra survivability is definitely appreciated, from an average gameplay perspective it is not as needed

[midnight horizon]

Any build freaks here? How do i get 1mil dmg? Or atleast near it? Uriel specifically

[limpid basin]

damn, i thought persistence works on overguard, at least, i didn't waste a formal for armor mods =))

[undone dust]

yeah the only thing that works with overguard health is omamori

[foggy bolt]

and damage redirection

nezha yareli nidus

[limpid basin]

so it's safe to say that arcane persistence strictly works on raw health?

[undone dust]

yes

[limpid basin]

tysm!

if only persistence works on overguard, kullervo would be literally immortal lol

[tranquil plover]

kompressa prime build?

[midnight horizon]

Guys?

[tranquil plover]

build a ton of strength, range, and then use his 4th, it will do over a mill

not in one hit, but in a ton of smaller ones

[severe bough]

Dont really need anything Special to do over 1mil dmg

[hot furnace]

behold, the art of randomly throwing a build together and wondering how it'll go

[midnight horizon]

Can someone give me tips of how to achieve more damage outta what i have here? What to swap out etc

[midnight horizon]

Had no clue what i was doing here

[severe bough]

Use viral heat on vinq
For uriel focus on str the most some range some duration
If u have any other mods for str replace vitality/redirection and also lvl up your mods

[midnight horizon]

Viral+heat for vinq and swap out vitality and redirection

What u suggest i replace them with?

[severe bough]

If u have vital sense also replace that with rime rounds and Piercing hit with heat mod.

For uriel blind rage is important and transient fortitude

[midnight horizon]

Thank you

Dm ur ign, imma send u a gift when i put on some plat

[severe bough]

All okay i dont need anything keep it for yourself

[midnight horizon]

U sure? Alr bet, thanks again, glad u took the time to explain and show me exactly what to use

[hot furnace]

yeah, still can't choose between Impetus and Efficiency

[foggy bolt]

on who

[hot furnace]

here

wait I meant Augmented, not Efficiency

[foggy bolt]

ok well ur only procing heat so augmented is better

[severe bough]

I wouldnt use that less str on uriel tbh he benefits much more from str than from range and also his summons doesnt really do that much execpt u can use them to proc arch intensify

[rocky aurora]

I mean, subsumeless uriel with 130-150 str can kill cap with his 4

[hot furnace]

like I said, I'm just throwing a random build together right now

[rocky aurora]

More range feels so good on him

[mighty flare]

~200% str is fine on uriel

which is about blind rage + archon int - overextended

[hot furnace]

and to be fair, I haven't added Archon Shards to Uriel yet

[gray relic]

do yall prefer panzer or nautilus prime gng

[foggy bolt]

hound

[undone dust]

raksa

[rocky aurora]

Panzer: primes viral on the whole map

Nautilus: primes 3+ statuses easily to 1 or more enemies

Panzer: continues to prime viral even when it's dead

[gray relic]

I have a built out panzer im just debating whether I wanna build up my nautilus xd

or just level for mastery

[rocky aurora]

They're both good

[undone dust]

naut has grouping which some frames really like

[outer mauve]

Anyone who hunts eidolons now after the update can you explain a more updated way to hunt all 3 eidolons easier solo? And the steps and builds operator builds and weapons plz?

[foggy bolt]

panzer is overrated af

[undone dust]

plus if you toss on coolant leak manifold bond, anytime it pulls a group of enemies, itll also prime them

[rocky aurora]

New amp doesnt even need a warframe anymore, the amp itself one-shots limbs

[gray relic]

wait
new amp?

[rocky aurora]

The typical eidolon amp, which is 177 iirc?

[gray relic]

or do you mean amp mods

[outer mauve]

Ppl say this but never explain anything about it

[rocky aurora]

Sorry new amp mods

[gray relic]

new mods give you stuff like bonus damage and multishot

[undone dust]

correct

[outer mauve]

I know but I suck at understanding hiw to build it and use it during the hunt

[rocky aurora]

Standard eidolon amp is 177, so single shot (highest damage per shot)

New amp mod that gives 3x crit damage on void mode

New amp mods gives more crit

Eradicate Onslaught gives a load of crit chance on energy depleted

Combine to one shot limbs

[outer mauve]

My Amp doesn't 1 tap limbs

What is 177?

[rocky aurora]

Oh youre brand new to amps

[near vortex]

raplak propa certus
amp parts

[rocky aurora]

Thats ok

[outer mauve]

Not new but never learned the numbers

Or how to properly build the amp

[rocky aurora]

Orange is cetus parts, blue is fortuna parts

[outer mauve]

Normally when I hunt eidolons I use my mech but by the time I get to the second eidolon I'm no longer able to kill it my energy is gone

[rocky aurora]

First number is primary fire, 2nd is alt fire, 3rd is extra stats

[rocky aurora]

Yea mech is only good for 1st eidolon, which also happens to be the method that takes 10x longer to get shards

[gray relic]

its so peak

[rocky aurora]

Explaining a tricap would take a lot of time in a chat like this

[outer mauve]

So I can do all this with out ever needing to use a frame or weapon? Just operator focus school and amp?

I have an Amp built with propa scaffold, certs brace and raplak prism

[fathom sky]

Need Void Strike to do that. With Amp mods iirc you can just hit a single Propa to destroy shields fully now.

[twilit crest]

Imagine doing eidolons can’t be my new gen ah

[rocky aurora]

You could do that before without void strike, proc Onslaught and get a big crit

Just a 547 with void strike 1 taps the shields

[rocky aurora]

I would suggest learning tricap naturally before doing new strats. Thats just me, though

[outer mauve]

Iv never even killed the other 2 without capturing. Idk how to even build to use operator to do this. It's overwhelming the original way people tell me to do is is modding volt using his shield use Rubico and alot of other things just to take out the joints

If I can do it with just operator and amps I'd be so happy if I new how lol

[rocky aurora]

Naahhhhh

Super easy without all that complicated volt sniper bs

Furis incarnon modded for rad or burston incarnon modded for rad

Dante gives overguard to lures

Furis inc breaks a limb in 1 second

[outer mauve]

Overwhelming I'll just run a group

I only wanted to use operator

[rocky aurora]

[outer mauve]

But I don't get it

[rocky aurora]

Read or watch a tricap guide

If you actually want to learn

[outer mauve]

All the guides I find all mentioned modding frames and weapons

[rocky aurora]

They dont show it?

[outer mauve]

Non mention the new methods

Non use operator or mods for them

[rocky aurora]

Because theyre new

[severe bough]

Its pretty easy just new amp mods and madurai amp arcanes stay the same

[rocky aurora]

Thats what I said but they said they dont understand

So I suggested learning from a guide 🤷‍♂️

Im not gonna sit here for an hour explaining tricap lol

[severe bough]

the only real thing u need is volt wyrm vastilok and any weapon of choice that kills limbs fast

And smth to kill vomvas

Then it just learning to force spawn voms and keep getting better

[severe bough]

True but tbf tridos was never that hard its actually pretty simple

Whats not simple is keeping sanity stable when playing the new missions for 30 hours🥀

[fathom sky]

They didn't exist until a couple weeks ago of course they don't have them.

How you build the stuff without or without the Operator mods is still the same anyway.

The only major difference when it came to Eidolon meta was being able to use certain Incarnons for it (Boar, Dual Toxo) as well as the resistance changes

[lavish orbit]

I just did with my newbie friend the tridos, you just need a nechra and the sirroco with a good primary...

[deep grotto]

How exactly does one use Hydroid for farming?
Does he have augs or does his funny tentacle room automatically make drops better?

I imagine it would somehow work in conjunction with a nuke build

[lavish orbit]

Aug for tentacle, that's how you get the loot

[deep grotto]

Oo

Where do i get it?
Syndicates?

[lavish orbit]

Yep

[deep grotto]

So i guess it’s a nuke build with pilfering swarm?

Assuming people usually nuke with the tentacles

[lavish orbit]

I find the tentacle build goofy, its bad for defense and you need something either aoe weapon or a good helminth (maybe both) to be optimized instead of a nekros that just need weapon

[deep grotto]

Well i certainly ain’t grinding for nekros rn 😭

[lavish orbit]

Well, I think it's a pilfering swarm nuke with tentacle augment then

[heady notch]

does anyone have a decent ogris set up for the saryn boom build?

[river palm]

just go full in on multi shot, damage, status damage, and toxin damage, if you want throw on a faction mod

[novel bear]

No firestorm?

[fleet harness]

Anyone got any tips for a good Gauss prime build? Primarily looking for speed and good energy

[quick palm]

Hello is Excalibur good for newbie? They said volt is better and I already played 4 hours with Excalibur and he's kindi mid for me I think

And what's the excellent weapon for a complete newbie thanks

[rocky aurora]

Yea after learning it I found it super easy. Before sitting down and just doing it though, it seemed too daunting to learn.

The 40 minute youtube videos didnt help with that lol

[full girder]

What is another good weapon for oraxia

[rocky aurora]

Excal becomes really good to use later in the game. Fortunately, the other frames are easy to farm for from the planet bosses

[river palm]

swap vigilante armaments for toxin 60%

[river palm]

i really like using the basmu with the new augment, it some basic answers would be occucor or sobek with acid shells

[wooden hamlet]

anybody dm ifthey have good steel path lavos

[river palm]

umbral or no umbral?

[wooden hamlet]

prime

lavos prime

there is no umbra

the only umbra is exacaliber

[river palm]

yeah like umbral mods or no umbral mods dawg

warframe players try not to mansplain challenge

[wooden hamlet]

i have all umbral mods so i guess yeah

but im just now getting in steel path

[river palm]

https://overframe.gg/build/942325/

[full girder]

I’m using kuva sobek was just wondering if there are other weapons

[river palm]

not home so that's the best i can do

[wooden hamlet]

oki thx

[river palm]

i'd try out the basmu or the hema with the new augments because they scale off of max health

[cursive mulch]

Trying to understand gunco. Would it be better to pair it with multiple increases to base dmg, or just one, since the base increases just interact additively?

I would assume multiple, but want to check

[rocky aurora]

On specific weapons, GunCO is multiplicative to additive damage bonuses (which is when GunCO is bugged).

All other instances are purely additive

[cursive mulch]

So on those specific weapons, you want as many sources of base dmg increases as possible?

[rocky aurora]

No

Additive damage is still bad to stack

[river palm]

it's very dependent on what weapon you're using

[river palm]

the wiki has a list of what weapons are multi and which are additive

[cursive mulch]

From what I can research, the felarx is good for gunco. Should I care about adding any other form of base damage increase other than primary bulwark?

[rocky aurora]

Typically no, because you would want that base damage slot used for a multiplicative mod

[cursive mulch]

Thanks y’all, next question: is -recoil still viewed as a ‘negative’ stat in rivens?

[rocky aurora]

Depends on the weapon. If its not a weapon that requires an ammo exilus mod to be usable, Id say yes because you can use the exilus slot for the recoil exilus mod

[coral crest]

Are beam incarnons good enough to power through late game damage attenuated bosses? Any time I used a normal beam weapon the results were miserable.

Mainly talking about Furis and Boar

[rocky aurora]

Furis yes because its just that good, boar maybe (meh) and torid no

[river palm]

yes, attenuation has been nerfed drastically

[coral crest]

The horrors i hear about Furis

[rocky aurora]

On hit incarnons still better though

[coral crest]

For sure, was just wondering about beams since normal beams just die. I don't have any of the beam incarnons installed

Thanks

[mighty flare]

laetum reigns supreme

[coral crest]

Not what I was asking

[mighty flare]

beams are strong because of dot stacking, most attenuated bosses have status caps which drastically make them worse
this is still true in post update but to a lesser degree
ur basically asking if you can fit a square into a circle hole

[coral crest]

Not what I was asking, at all

[mighty flare]

furis works, incanroff boar

[mighty flare]

most beams aren't, just build furis for raw corroheat for attenuated status capped enemies

[coral crest]

I literally just asked whether incarnon beams are a noticeable improvement or not when it comes to these bosses. I already got my answer

Idk why you decided to go on explaining how/why something else does it better. I already know that

[carmine dew]

how was he supposed to know that you konw that though lol

[coral crest]

.

[carmine dew]

also re beam incarnons, nukor is better than all of them now

so if the nukor isnt cutting it then they wont either

[coral crest]

Direct reply to "on hit weapons still better"

Anyways

[maiden oracle]

Any tips for building Gauss for SP? This is my
Monstrosity right now

[mighty flare]

nuker gauss doesn't care for lots of strength, just high range & duration with at least positive strength

[maiden oracle]

Really?

I expected him to want strength to just explode everything

[mighty flare]

no i just like lying ❤️

[maiden oracle]

Also damn I should've remembered Archon mod conditions

[maiden oracle]

🥀

[quiet laurel]

thermal sunder doesnt scale well with strength

[maiden oracle]

Oh

[quiet laurel]

thermal sunder has lotta things going on

[maiden oracle]

Spaghetti code or

[quiet laurel]

wouldnt say spaghetti but just code thats not really used anywhere else afaik

like constant casts of heat sunder doubling the dmg of the next cast

and cold sunder finishing off heat procs

[maiden oracle]

Finishing off?

[maiden oracle]

Never knew that though
I just alternate cold and heat

[quiet laurel]

the dmg of the heat procs on an enemy gets condensed into a single dmg instance

[maiden oracle]

Ohhhh

So it's kinda like
Expedite suffering?

That's the name of the subsume right

[quiet laurel]

this is basically resulting in infinite dmg if you keep casting heat

tho kinda slow

so you usually just do cold cast to make the blast of the combined sunder do big dmg

[rocky aurora]

Hmm, not so sure about that

[carmine dew]

its true lol

[arctic musk]

Is there a mod like spectral serration to secondary weapons?

[rocky aurora]

Its not

[carmine dew]

nukor's damage is huge and it doesnt need to charge

[rocky aurora]

Ok

What about once theyre charged?

[carmine dew]

idk what outdamages the nukor tbh

[rocky aurora]

[carmine dew]

you have pistol mods and enervate with the nukor's base cd

it was already pretty high before 1999

now youre dealing with nonconditional constant 5x crits

[rocky aurora]

Im typically not a fan of torid, but torid corrosive+blast melts everything. Then add in Xata's whisper and now lvl cap enemies are melted

[carmine dew]

yeah and the nukor is better than the torid lol

enervate caused the nukor to pull ahead

[rocky aurora]

I an genuinely asking to see a nukor melt massive groups of lvl cap enemies in a couple of seconds

Im a huge fan of the nukor, not disagreeing it's amazing

[river palm]

they can both do that easily, i've brought both of them to cap in cascade

[rocky aurora]

I have as well

[river palm]

xatas blast on a chain beam weapon is absurd no matter what

[river palm]

you want a cookie?

[rocky aurora]

And single target damage, id pick furis evrry time

[rocky aurora]

You brought it up, cookie monster

[river palm]

you just had to chime in tho

[rocky aurora]

You literally did what youre criticizing me for lol

Anyway, I am genuinely asking to see the kuva nukor perform that well. I am completely open to changing my mind if I see it

[carmine dew]

man do you want me to go on a cap run rn to record it or what

[river palm]

if you've taken it to level cap you shouldn't need proof

[carmine dew]

like youre in the casc server

[rocky aurora]

🤷‍♂️ sounds like it doesn't work

[river palm]

if you can't extrapolate information from one weapon to a very similar one that's on you

[rocky aurora]

🤔

[carmine dew]

so basically

k.nukor is 21m dps with no external buffs

https://warframe-damage.com/?p=N4Ig7iBcINIK4DcCGACAcnA1gewE4gBoQBTKEAFQAtckAPFAGWIHMkAXOAZ0JABsyAnEIE9OABygBGIsVpQADEQBWZALZJmAO2JsAlgGMeShAoB0ANiKqooeWQAKuzm2y8U94s929im-aSJJMgAxXGxnACNdNgCQACYyAHEkXmRNXQAvYgATFABlSmw2HgBmJJS0zJyUABFdADN6rl1sTR4AFjImNkoUlHI8XF9iogBWBycXNwBRH1VhlMmecwdcXXnc8iRcZh0UAGEafUxifCIAdlX16oAJYnZq-d6d2IAOBSIRSEUQSTtoPLEfStbLbACeKGm2lwyBiPEkQW%2BgQSSN%2BZVRkk6GPGGJWGMuGPeGK%2BPzi-1JiNJKNJ6NJWNJONJeNJBNJRNJJIAvkRsDYQJRuJB6ilOMQiILhbxRVYoGxcHAxfyoJLpSBVNllSLFRAhVqiCZIKAnAB9UXFXVSxXOODHQXybkgfCGkAms2ay36lIKB0ZPmunTu1XIfjfB1yZ3%2B80qxXB71EENGzimgMWoNe0NENoRpNu1Mx9P25R%2BnMp6OekOFkAa7PJqN6kCxjNqwWJ2uB-MVh3MYttvMO83SECcQw13NlhvpySmUYOpAj1tj%2BuNyRxTkOiTOpAfEARbcjn7Vn6kVH1bfd1GUbe6bcqVGYbcVmWo3mojc-ACO26dPztRHNPwNH4dR%2BOBt3DH4wTjR0bDXIA&n=1

holy links batman but yeah

bc it can do viral on its own

[coral crest]

Waiter, there's an embed in my website link

[quartz pumice]

Isn’t it technically better to sub over reroot and use shade on nokko so you can use the 30+ strength aswell and the crit from crepuscular?

[carmine dew]

probably tbh

[coral crest]

Yes but a dog instead

[carmine dew]

it means you cant fire your guns but i don't see why that wouldn't work

[coral crest]

Because retriever mods

[quartz pumice]

I mean you can’t in reroot anyway

[coral crest]

Nokko can even damage bosses reliably with his abilities, it's definitely a non issue

[quartz pumice]

Yeah I’ve been using him for boss dps these past few months

I love him

[coral crest]

Yet your name is anti viral

Curious

[gray quarry]

Waiter, there’s an embed fail in my embed

[quartz pumice]

My real tag is Viral if that make it better

[coral crest]

It would, but why are you anti yourself

[quartz pumice]

Im a different person each social I use and each persona hates eachother

[coral crest]

Impressive

[quartz pumice]

It comes from the mental illness

[young ridge]

what evolutions do I choose for the Hate Incarnon?

[quartz pumice]

I do swordsmanship, resolute and subtle

[young ridge]

aight

[stable glen]

OK this is kind of a crack build for Wisp that I started working on yesterday, but I'm thinking that she uses her motes, throws out a heat spreading glaive, blasts out her sol gate, does a lot of damage with heat inheritance and gets buffed by hot shot, teleports for critical surge, and does a lot of crit damage with weapons. Does this look like a good build for that?

[neat anvil]

Tipedo Prime or Lesion

trying to figure out which one to build out first

[severe ginkgo]

Do we have any Nekros experts here that would share a minmax builds for high kpm with the summons?

[novel bear]

Heavy spam or light attack influence?

[wintry trail]

Anyone got a nekros build? 1 for farming and 1 for lvl cap

[ornate cosmos]

man idk what to do with that guy

[novel bear]

Redirection’s not very useful, cat shields is probably better

[maiden oracle]

Funny obtained

[severe bough]

Cyte under the radar fr🥀

[severe bough]

So a little thing changed melee meta

[severe ginkgo]

Is Roar on Protea 4 better than armor strip augment?

[blazing finch]

What’s a good trinity build for apex tank

[novel bear]

Fast deflection, vigilante vigor, arcane aegis, a lot of aimglide mods

[maiden oracle]

Bad shocky

[novel bear]

Magnetic rush is a waste, use reach or weeping wounds instead

[maiden oracle]

I'll throw it out for Primed Reach once I rank it up enough then

[frank matrix]

what stats should i be focusing on for a sayrn build?

[hard dove]

Hybrid nuke/platform : high range, str and dur along with venom dose augment
Pure nuking: really high range, high str
Weapon platform: really high str, really high duration, venom dose augment

[frank matrix]

thanks, i heard shes really mana hungry, will equalibrium be enough help if she has under 100 effiency, or would i also need to slap arcan energize?

[hard dove]

Yes
No energize equil is enough from my experience

You should be killing so much you have orbs for days

[frank matrix]

ok so just equil is enough, should i also run a pet with synth for extra chances of health orbs?

[quiet laurel]

she is energy hungry when you get into a difficult situation during shield gating but since those situations arent or shouldnt be common you should have enough orbs lying around for those situations

tho I personally dont recommend blind rage on her in the first place

but thats just personal preference

[frank matrix]

i see

is the ninjase build on overframe a good build for sayrn?

i might just copy what he has and do some few tweaks

is the 139 base strength + molt aug enough strength or should i aim higher

[quiet laurel]

I just go pure weapons platform, saryns greatest strengths is that toxic lash isnt coded as a damage buffing ability so you can slap roar onto her

dont really like the range build since you sacrifice so much mods that could go into QoL for the ability stats

but ninjase build is still good

[frank matrix]

do you also run brief respite + arcane aegis for your weapon platform build?

for defense

[astral tinsel]

not for most content, no

spores are just kinda weak

[frank matrix]

strength too low?

[quiet laurel]

I mean the build is gonna deal with SP

[maiden oracle]

People who are smarter than me

help how do I build rifles.

[quiet laurel]

but general weapons platform is the best imo

or rather hard focused weapons platform

and combine it with sobek and you nuke better than any spore build out there

[quiet laurel]

you dont need much strength on her tbh

[frank matrix]

is a pure weapons plat build just a lot of strength + duration?

[quiet laurel]

she has so many buffs that for SP and even EDA/ETA she'll probs do fine at base strength

ye

and swap for QoL mods however you seem fit

[astral tinsel]

the damage takes forever to ramp up

and it goes poof if you clear too well

[hard dove]

The armor strip tho with a green shard

[frank matrix]

is this weapon platform build from ninjase better than his genernal sp one?

its just pure weap platform

[quiet laurel]

yes

[astral tinsel]

you can still get that with the weapon platform build

[frank matrix]

ill lean towards a weap platform then thx

[hard dove]

No I'm talking about the spores in general

[quiet laurel]

I prefer my saryn on active gate but thats again personal preference

[astral tinsel]

yeah they're good for that

[frank matrix]

@quiet laurel are you familiar with gauss builds, i have one gauss build and i have no idea if it's any good or if i should change it to pure weapons plat

[astral tinsel]

just not for dps, which is why you shouldn't build around them unless doing low-level content

[quiet laurel]

gauss is pretty ez to build

[frank matrix]

heres my build

[quiet laurel]

nuke build?

[frank matrix]

nuke/weap plat

i stil lwant to be able to nuke with sunder but have a strong weapons plat

[quiet laurel]

problem on gauss is you want max range with overextended for nuke build but also strength for weapons platform for his 3 augment and possible subsume

so a hybrid is always a bit difficult

and also subsume off your 2 if you go aegis

or do you even have access to helminth

[frank matrix]

currently building

[frank matrix]

is the build i have for gauss decent or does it need a complete overhaul

for steelpath

and general use

[quiet laurel]

it'll work for SP cause its gauss

just not really modding efficient

cause you are trying to fuse 2 completely different builds together

[hard dove]

Don't need aegis with plating on

[novel bear]

If you can get concentration gauss is usually spamming abilities, so it’s a good replacement for efficiency

[hard dove]

No no use both

Replace aegis

[novel bear]

Replace kinetic plating with roar

[quiet laurel]

why would you replace aegis

[hard dove]

L

Cuz kinetic plating

And also 2 minutes of redline sillyness

You lose about 20 second dropping efficiency

[frank matrix]

if i replace aegis i could use arcane ice storm

[novel bear]

Roar doubles dips on each cast of heat sunder, and each heat sunder scales off the previous double dip
It’s great

[hard dove]

Yeah yeah it's the same song and dance with roar every time there's already so much frame that use roar already

[novel bear]

Gauss is one of the frames most justified in using roar

[near vortex]

gus prim

[quiet laurel]

on the nuking build at least

[frank matrix]

if i went pure gauss weapons platform is energized mutations a better subsume than roar

[quiet laurel]

weapons platform xatas whisper type shi

[near vortex]

Yes

[quiet laurel]

depends on weapon

[near vortex]

Energized Munitions with low ammo weapons goes crazy

[frank matrix]

acceltra prime

[novel bear]

Yes

[quiet laurel]

gauss can make the OG AoE weapons good again

[near vortex]

Tenet envoy

[quiet laurel]

envoy doesnt really have ammo problems but spamming it do be funny with gauss fire rate

[frank matrix]

so are most gauss builds sunder nukes or a pure weapons plat?

the meta ones

[hard dove]

Bubonico white energy alt fire spam + energize munition and crux

[quiet laurel]

both are good

[novel bear]

Meta for what?

Level cap tends to build weapon platform I believe
Fissure speedruns are nuke

[quiet laurel]

level cap weapons platform builds xatas with influence blast infusion

[hard dove]

Low lvel fast mission like exterminate just spam sunder so something with roar, vitality, and all that jazz

[hard dove]

Wait i need to try this hold on

Send build

[quiet laurel]

gotta get on gimme a sec

[frank matrix]

does weapons plat gauss need primed flow?

or is he not that mana hungry

[hard dove]

Primed flow is nice

He can be a bit spammy sometimes

Especially when you hit 100% redline and just want to armor strip everyone

[quiet laurel]

dont need vig vigor

can replace with more strength

probs with blind rage or smth

[hard dove]

I thank thee

[hard dove]

Efficiency for concentration i imagine?

[quiet laurel]

at the end of the day both give 60%

use what suits you best

but ig concentration is more consistent

[hard dove]

I thought efficiency is 36%

[quiet laurel]

oh wait

you right

idk why I thought efficiency was 60

ye then def swap lmao

[gray quarry]

Efficiency stacks up 2x, trust

[austere timber]

lf help with my oraxia build (trying to get ready for steel path/ lf nuke potential with 4 and shotgun)

[quiet laurel]

sobek?

[austere timber]

yeup

[quiet laurel]

why adaptation

[austere timber]

survivability

[quiet laurel]

you have invis

[austere timber]

but i can take it off for something else

thats true yeh

[hard dove]

Drop energize

You have equil already

[austere timber]

energize is a place holder rn

im a newer player so i dont have good arcanes

im thinking of bellicose and crepuscular but i also. love arcane arachne

[hard dove]

Oh and idt you want narrow minded

Less range on 2 and less range on swing

[austere timber]

i alr got it up there

[hard dove]

No i mean replace it

[austere timber]

oh fr?

what should i replace with then

[hard dove]

More str

[austere timber]

does the 4th ability's status spred scale off of strenght?

[quiet laurel]

the status spread does like nothing

and you have sobek already

[austere timber]

im confused on what i should add though in place of narrow and also adaptation then

[hard dove]

Can't go wrong with augur secret and augur message

[novel bear]

Bellicose isn’t great for using the 4 buff, since it snapshots before you get the improved health

[rare lichen]

her 4th does increase dynamically

so yes, bellicose works on her 4th

[jaunty meteor]

Yes it does, but it's from 32 to 38. But this isn't "not /much/ change". This is "exactly the same numbers, 0 status or ten"

the build is trash, because I'm isolating Aptitude and just adding 60/60 mods. The point is that on the Dera Vandal (Crimson Overture, Swift Deliverance, High Ground) with four 60/60 mods, Hammer Shot, and Galvanized Aptitude a base body shot does 39 on non-crit and 167 on crits with zero status effects. When loaded up with 10 stacks of Mag and Gas plus electric, slash, and puncture, I'm dealing... 39 or 167. There is ZERO change in the damage. I'm wondering why.

four 60/60 mods, Hammer Shot and Galvanized Aptitude. Base hit non/crit is 39/167. With five status effects, damage is 39/167. It's not little change, it's no change at all.

[shell tundra]

How goated would [Secondary Irradiate] be on an Archgun like the Larkspur Prime, given it both has innate radiation and [Containment Breach] gives both Multishot and Radiation

[frank matrix]

is the defensive mods on this build overkill?

[rare lichen]

you don't really need it, just cat shield and brief despite is enough

every time you cast molt you get your shields back

[frank matrix]

what can i replace fast deflection and vigor with?

[rare lichen]

I would put rolling guard instead of vigilante vigor

that way you cast molt less often

or you can leave it that way if it's comfy with your play style

[frank matrix]

@rare lichen thanks, also i wanted to ask your opinion on this gauss build of mine, im trying to do a hybrid sunder nuke/ weapon platform but i have no idea if this build is optimal and how i should change/fix it

no idea if a hybrid gauss build would even work

[rare lichen]

I pair Saryn with wyrm prime so it shield gates for you

[rare lichen]

I can't comment on that, as I really don't use gauss prime other than self weapon buff

never done a thermal sunder build

[frank matrix]

ok all good, thanks!

[frank matrix]

last slot will be for primed continuity, should i also replace arcan aegis since im going to be shield gating? any other changes should i make?

[mighty flare]

you'd need to compensate with extra buffs cuz no flare/enervate/fortifier, but no don't use containment breach

[rare lichen]

you can do precision intensify instead of intensify, gives you a lot of strength for your 4th

[austere timber]

so is bellicose good or not for her im so confused

people are giving me many different answers

[rare lichen]

roar in this case

[shell tundra]

Forgive my confusion, why wouldn’t you want to use Containment Breach? It’s multishot and Archguns are in desperate need of multishot? (Pinging for ease of conversation)

[rare lichen]

yes it's good if you are on her 4th form almost all the time. depends how you play her

[sonic kayak]

I hope nobody gifts me Uriel👀

[fierce path]

build recomendation for dex pixia and titania?

[frank matrix]

i dont have prime surefooted on sayrn, if im purely relying on shield gating for my sayrn is that a death sentence? is the normal sure footed enough?

[rare lichen]

yeah it's all good lol

[frank matrix]

alright thanks!!

[rare lichen]

here is my build for buffing weapons

[rare lichen]

do you have wyrm prime?

[indigo igloo]

I am brand new and a swiping player. I love Nekros' design and want to build him as a loot god. Where can I find resources to understand/read and find a build for such?

[frank matrix]

nope, i was talking about the sayrn build but i replied to the wrong message oops

[jaunty meteor]

you asked about Titania. It's not perfect but it shreds EDA

[jaunty meteor]

I tried just using Ninjase's build but it didn't feel right

[frank matrix]

@rare lichen could i take a look at your weap platform gauss build please? if you don't mind

[sterile urchin]

should i rub condition overload on thalys?

[summer trout]

what should i build gauss prime for?

[sterile urchin]

range and strength if you want to nuke, duration if possible if you want to run longer

[summer trout]

oh ok thx

[austere timber]

my playstyle is mostly around her 4 and her energy usage but im realizing im not doing enough damage with her weapons and also with her first in general and i only do enough on her first after a certian threshold

[rare lichen]

yes, here it is

it buffs fire rate and ammo efficiency for weapons, that's how i play it

also for slam builds

[frank matrix]

thank you i appreciate it 😄

[rare lichen]

i think it needs 0 forma

[frank matrix]

does it have a subsume?

[sterile urchin]

anyone got a kuva nukor build? just got one

[lyric lion]

I know this is probably the wrong chat... where would dojo building help be?

[hushed harbor]

chat is Arcane Aegis or Barrier better for Gyre with Redirection

[sterile urchin]

i prefer aegis for shieldgating

[sterile urchin]

could also run fast deflection