builds-discussion

[fervent rapids]

there's the innate Incarnon Weapons, and then there's Incarnon Adapters that give limited Incarnon mechanics to certain normal weapons

[coral crest]

You hit head, you charge the bar

You press alt fire and the weapon transforms, using that bar as ammo

[fierce lark]

yes but im saying the people voting are probably assuming strun prime with the incarnon and strun base without it

[coral crest]

Incarnon melees instead require a specific combo count and lasts for fixed time, you tap heavy to activate

[weary elbow]

do you need the base weapon to incarnate them?

[fierce lark]

yes

[fervent rapids]

Incarnon Adapters can be installed to any Variant of a weapon

so Braton's Incarnon Adapter can be installed to Braton, Mk1-Braton, Braton Vandal and Braton Prime

[fierce lark]

think they meant do you need to own the weapon first

[weary elbow]

I might try building the Pyrana prime for now and use it as a main weapon. What's a good build? Can I trust ninjase one? Is the only one updated more or less, the others are +4 years https://overframe.gg/build/214268/pyrana-prime/pyrana-prime-plague-star/

[spiral chasm]

This is plague star specific and not a general use one

[weary elbow]

oh mate, my head hurt a lot trying to find builds for this game. Most things outdated, or not working anymore or whatever

and I don't even know what means plague start

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[weary elbow]

This good? https://overframe.gg/build/560886/pyrana-prime/pirahna-prime-10-million-combined-dps/

[wild rune]

misspelled piranha, bad build

[old marsh]

ye. viral heat is the way to go

[rocky aurora]

For Plague Star and as a niche single target gun, yea

[fierce lark]

well apart from the fact that it has two 60/60 mods and an elementalist mod on a gun with 3% base status

[rocky aurora]

Lmao, knowing overframe Im glad I didn't even look at it

[old marsh]

per projectile

[fierce lark]

true true

[wild rune]

even per projectile, 3% is incredibly low

at that point I'd rather just use a kuva brakk

[rocky aurora]

Base strun has 5%

[fierce lark]

at full build it's over 330% status per shot, that's pretty good

[fierce lark]

strun has incarnon evolutions that give it a bunch of status

but yeah shotgun numbers are deceptive

[old marsh]

he probably wants 420%

[rocky aurora]

Yes I have a fully built strun, im talking about base strun vs pyrana base sc

[weary elbow]

if that bad is overframe, i'm open to something else, youtube guides or whatever other page. I really need to understand builds

or recommend me any build for the pyrana idk

[rocky aurora]

Overframe is outdated and anyone can post builds with players that dont know how to build voting on bad builds

Idk of any other place, really, and I dont watch YouTube for builds either

[wild rune]

unfortunately pyrana is suffering, though it did get better when the armor rebalance hit and Grineer got far squishier

-# completely ignoring the fact that that applies to basically anything

[rocky aurora]

Ive learned from my clan's veterans 🤷‍♂️

And yea, pyrana is a niche weapon and ive only seen it used for Plague Star

[wild rune]

the only reason we use Overframe is because it has the best layout for build sharing
it's basically just Wikipedia at that point where you don't look at it for builds, you look for builders and go from there

[fierce lark]

i put my blind faith in ninjase to build my guns for me

[rocky aurora]

Oof

Good builders are very rare and they typically dont post their builds outside of their own community, at least in my experience

[weary elbow]

idk then man... someone recommended me that between my weapons the pyrana is good, now you say that it's a niche weapon 🤷🏻‍♂️ truly lost

[rocky aurora]

Good advice is hard to come by, warframe is a deceptively complex game

[fierce lark]

it's pretty easy to go with a very general rule of "damage multishot crit viral heat" and flex the final slot for whatever

[rocky aurora]

Not saying I know everything

Yea theres exceptions to every rule in this game

[wild rune]

the only truly general rule in this game is that melee influence solves everything

[fierce lark]

if you know modding basics you can get by with anything, the biggest issue then becomes figuring out what does and doesn't work with CO

[rocky aurora]

Id love to know what secondaries you do have, then, or at least what stage of the game you're in

[fierce lark]

pyrana is probably still a good general use weapon

but it is niche in that it is best in slot against the plague star boss (and by extension, probably also lephantis)

[rocky aurora]

Though for many players, using what's fun is more important than using what the best

[brittle sleet]

It can be the best of your weapons while still not being amazing, and also while still being fairly easy to build into something serviceable

[coral crest]

Pyrana is just Cedo without an alt fire

[wild rune]

odd comparison, but it makes sense the more I think about it

[smoky turret]

anyone have a titania build?

[weary elbow]

@rocky aurora basically I returned to the game after 8-10 years and I have the content scattered all around for now. 2 days ago I literally finished the new war, have still some of the chart not finished, etc

My biggest issue is that when I enter some nodes/missions with just 40-50 enemies, my Tiberon Prime sucks (i guess bad build) and I'm trying to find a weapon that can carry (more or less) me and a warframe to pair with so I can start farming the endgame. I also has many "common" mods missing cuz they appear in content that I didn't touched yet

I don't like Nataruk or bows in general so don't recommend me it

I know that the Cedo Prime seems good and people recommend it, so maybe I will have to farm that, pair with Oberon Prime as a primer weapon and that's it, dunno. I wish I could use Volt for speed on missions, but it seems that he need some Arcanes to perform well that I don't have

[smoky turret]

well nataruk is a really really good starter

[wild rune]

I'm a Tiberon Prime glazer, but I'll admit it is held back without its augment, but the augment also effectively locks you out of its other firing modes

it's an identity crisis of a gun

[rocky aurora]

Oberon is not a primer or a weapon platform, and if he was, priming with Radiation is one of the worst choices you can make.

I recommend using Broken War or Xoris for your melee. Idk what secondaries or primaries you have at the moment, but Tiberon prime, even if it is a bad gun, shouldn't be that bad that it's struggling pre-SP

Literally most weapons in the game should work pre-SP with the right builds

Like, 90%+

An mk1-braton can do some work, ive tried it

[wild rune]

hell I'd go on and say any gun at that point, with maybe three exceptions

even without factoring things like incarnons because those require steel path anyway

[fervent rapids]

only Adapters need SP

the Incarnon Weapons are just quest-locked

[rocky aurora]

The stug is one of the exception lol

[wild rune]

well yes but those weapons are all nearly best-in-slot so I didn't feel like I needed to mention those, I mostly meant weapons that are saved by the genesis, like Kunai, Gorgon, Sicarus, etc

[hot totem]

What frames would y'all recommend with primary overcharge, i tried it with Caliban prime and it worked decently since i don't use his abilities often enough to drain his energy

[fierce lark]

none tbh

[hot totem]

Got it to 240% multishot

[hot totem]

I want it to work cause it's more interesting than putting primary merciless on everything

[fierce lark]

the best i could come up with last time i tried was chroma with umbral intensify+fiber and arcane battery

[lavish orbit]

Gyre

After casting your 3rd and 4th it doesn't matter anymore

[worthy python]

Do the spectral pages from Lorak have a timer, or do they just stay until you spend enough energy?

[lavish orbit]

Each cast iirc it consume one

[rancid mirage]

maybe xaku if you have to use primary overcharge

[coral crest]

Garuda, Gyre, Caliban, Xaku

Octavia might also be good

Anyone who either has a way to self sustain a ton of energy or doesn't need to cast abilities often

[rancid mirage]

Oh yea prob Grendel citrine uriel and nokko

But idk which one can reach max stack with only using 2-3 blue shards or p flow

[solar reef]

harrow if, for whatever reason, you aren’t using acuity

he benefits from it so much with thurble, but at the same time its so inherently against his kit

[hot totem]

Hmmmm

The fact that this arcane requires not using abilities that much while also needing to raise the energy capacity is annoying

[midnight horizon]

Which arcane you talkin bout

[hot totem]

Primary Overcharge

[midnight horizon]

Oh

[hot totem]

The one that gives multishot

[midnight horizon]

I haven't touched primaries since foreva

[midnight horizon]

Oh isn't it the one that scales off.. shields or smth? Or was it armor

[hot totem]

Nah it scales off energy, and the energy needs to be at 90% to work

It could reach 350% multishot

[hot prawn]

Is anyone a super expert in focus?
I need help. Does the lens tier matter?

[meager drift]

yes

u get more focus from killing enemies but daily cap stays the same

[midnight horizon]

Oh right

[meager drift]

I use it on chroma with enery tanking build and arcane battery

3 blue for armor

[fathom olive]

Ola

[pseudo ginkgo]

anyone got a good build for wukong and his staff??

[hot totem]

Why the armor?

[meager drift]

for battery

[pseudo ginkgo]

Steel path has been killing me lately and i need him to be better 😭

[meager drift]

u need to use cold on your 2 and u will be able to have 1300 energy while its active

[vocal vector]

im making a secondary irradiate build with a status weapon, should I make it purely blast or is putting a bit of electricity on it going to make it better? elec is about half as much as blast is if I put it on

[hot totem]

Hmm

[vocal vector]

if I go pure blast and rad its 180 rad 207 blast but the fire rate goes up by like 10

[solemn plaza]

hey guys im trying to build hildryn but i don't really know what mods should i put in for her exalted, any advice? i was thinking of throwing the 90% electric here

[weary elbow]

The weapons pics where on the post I mentioned you, it was an anwser to another message from me.

And why Oberon or radiation as a primer is a bad option? The build I checked was Oberon with Smite Infusion and viral as primer tho

[pure gate]

Is dual coda torxica a good alternative to the dual toxocyst. And if so (or not), should i just use furis

[pseudo ginkgo]

guys who got a good build for wukong and his staff for SP??

[meager drift]

dual coda torxica is amazing weapon

[pure gate]

Ill give it a try then. Its worth to invest into the weapon a heap than i assume?

[meager drift]

it´s one of the best coda weapons

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/893671/

What would be the best innate element for this?

[magic cargo]

guys what would you suggest i would go for an uriel build?

[meager drift]

magnetic maybe

[rocky aurora]

I thought you were saying you were going to use Oberon as the primer, not having a subsume or outside viral priming

[dire flint]

Does Protea need Blind Rage at all?

[weary elbow]

basically this is what i came across

[rocky aurora]

And radiation is bad because it doesn't do anything aside from applying a little CC to enemies

Only good vs eidolons

[weary elbow]

https://youtu.be/4Yhg1ALI-QA?si=mmg-1-XIM48FnP_Y

[rocky aurora]

And fuxking around in Sorties, I guess lol

Oof

[meager drift]

Anyone know how long it takes until u can buy one more hotshot

[rocky aurora]

Yea you prime with viral to one shot with Smite if youre not using Roar

[rocky aurora]

Weekly reset

But why prime viral if roar allows you one shot everything except for specific damage attenuation enemies

[ruby anvil]

does anyone know a decent nuking oberon build that DOESNT require nourish 🥹

[weary elbow]

he shows a roar variation too, but with viral also on the variant 3-4 in the video

[rocky aurora]

Yes, use roar instead

[ruby anvil]

i have neither bc i’m both lazy and poor

[rocky aurora]

I dont really like watching warframe youtubers for builds

[rocky aurora]

Youre SOL, then

[ruby anvil]

fuh

grendel grind here i come then 🫩

[rocky aurora]

Bro rhino is so much easier to grind, wtf lol

[ruby anvil]

idk where to get him tbh

[wind smelt]

So I have my Mesa prime build with heat and slash on her peacemakers and nourish activates viral plus other status effect
I was wondering can I make Protea prime like that since she got heat from her artillery and slash from her grenades

[rocky aurora]

[Rhino]

[ruby anvil]

i never got a rhino part

[rocky aurora]

Damn no Altair bot?

[rocky aurora]

On the wiki and the rhino blueprint in the Market tells you where to go

[ruby anvil]

thank you goat, ily

[rocky aurora]

Reason why Nourish works with exalted abilities is because it adds Viral weighting to the weapon. That's why it's not applied to abilities that are not exalted weapons

[wind smelt]

Is there another way im trying to make Protea prime more abilities focused

[rocky aurora]

Yea, make your secondary a primer

Kuva nukor, epitaph, kompressa, something to aoe prime with viral and other statuses

[wind smelt]

I never got into primer or whatever that is with secondaries or Melee weapons

[rocky aurora]

Well, thats essentially what youre trying to do

You're trying to prime with Viral to multiply damage to health

Thats one part of what Nourish allows you to do

[velvet pulsar]

FYI: Just one rank 0 archon vitality is enough for Uriel to proc max stack of Necrophagic Vigor.

[wind smelt]

Right all with abilities the peacemakers are well still consider an ability im just trying to find another method not nourish of course since you already told me it won't work for protea?

[rocky aurora]

Peacemaker is an ability, yes, but it's an exalted weapon. An extra weapon that counts as an ability, which is why it procs archon mods and takes advantage of abilities like Nourish

So what you're looking for is a priming weapon

Good primers for your secondary are Epitaph, Kompressa, Nukor

My personal favorites are Epitaph and kompressa

[wind smelt]

Exactly but it wont work for Protea and what im trying to do is mostly make a ability focused Protea prime

[novel bear]

Wiki has a list of abilities affected by nourish
https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Nourish

[coral crest]

Scyotid is very good for protea, it groups for her turrets and has good status

[novel bear]

Mecha set is also good

[rocky aurora]

I dont know what to tell you lol

You want to prime with viral but dont want to use a viral primer

Get a vulpaphyla?

[dim bough]

why is the multishot negative?!😭

[rocky aurora]

Or a robot companion to prime viral for you?

[proud anchor]

You dont really have to use helminth on her since you can use temporal erosion and her blaze artillery augment to be a pretty decent caster frame

[rocky aurora]

They want to use viral to prime, thats the point

[wind smelt]

Hmmm what about that one ability from hydroid that makes it rain r
Or something and then with the augmented mod gives it 100% viral procs

[wind smelt]

Hhmmm also true

[rocky aurora]

You can use that, yes, I actually forgot hyroid existed lmao

[proud anchor]

You could try that or use roar over temporal anchor

[coral crest]

Anchor is very valuable imo

[proud anchor]

I like it too but some might not like the rewind part of the ability

[coral crest]

You can cancel the rewind

Just hold cast when it's enabled

[proud anchor]

.....I honestly didnt know about that

[wind smelt]

My main thing is to have her have multiple status procs with just her abilities

Like Mesa

[coral crest]

Protea can't do that

[proud anchor]

For what reason in particular, sorry im joining in late

[rocky aurora]

Thats what ive been saying lol

[coral crest]

She can give heat and that's it

[novel bear]

Slash

[proud anchor]

Slash too technically

[coral crest]

Her 1 gives marginal slash dmg yeah

And 4 is blast

But you aren't gonna capitalize on slash

[novel bear]

Does her 4 inflict procs?

[coral crest]

No

It's just blast dmg

[wind smelt]

Slash grenades
Heat artillery
I just want something for viral

[coral crest]

You really don't need much for protea

[wind smelt]

I know but I want all abilities focused

[rocky aurora]

🤷‍♂️

Then get hyroid's subsume

[coral crest]

Ye

Viral tempest might be what you need

[novel bear]

Protea does not have any way to inflict viral

[wind smelt]

Hmmmm right forgot I mentioned him

[coral crest]

Tempest barrage is also static just like Protea

[wind smelt]

Alright im going to get on it and see how it goes if it doesn't do well, oh well lol

Alsooooooo for wisp prime i know she can be a jack of all trades lol but is it better to use her as a buffer or as a nuke?

[rocky aurora]

She can do both

At the same time

Strength scales her buff amount and breach surge damage multiplier

[coral crest]

Drinking vials aggressively

She's got a problem

[sterile tiger]

Hi, does anyone have a build for the Ocucor?

[hexed sundial]

https://overframe.gg/build/483134/ocucor/surging-tendrils-ocucor-sentient-surge/

[sterile tiger]

Ty

[worthy siren]

I got a question, would bane of orokin work against Roathe... yk since he is an orokin? Also, does toxin damage bypass boss shields?

[rocky aurora]

I dont believe Roathe is part of the Corrupted faction, so no

[worthy siren]

darn, i'm guessing that applies to both questions then?

[coral crest]

Toxin(both status and dmg) bypasses shields but only on non boss enemies

[worthy siren]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-shaking-head-no-nope-gif-15765285015649386374

[dire flint]

I’ve been messing with a non-helminth build for protea lately

[worthy siren]

thats how i've been playing protea this whole time

[icy light]

Temporal Artillery/Temporal Erosion my beloved

[wind smelt]

Sooooo I tried the Protea prime with multiple status procs and with tempest barrage
my results: is good but not as good as roar to be honest

[coral crest]

Of course not

Roar boosts str, and status dmg

Roar is the ultimate slop solution to all your dmg problems

And you want to build duration on Protea so it's even not that hard to keep up

If it ever was

But her original 4 is lovely and augments are handy

[wind smelt]

Also i tried that too with her original 4th and no roar buuuut with the augmented mod that comes with it
My results: lmao also good but roar stills beats it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[midnight horizon]

do any of yall run harrow and if so how do you run him?

tribunal and gram prime is a ton of fun

spin to win bb

[velvet pulsar]

I don't run I parkour.
Jokes aside, I use him with Dual Toxocyst or Zymos.

[median heron]

Harrowing

[rocky aurora]

Thats just cause roar is too goated

[wind smelt]

Yes, one of my favorite red crit. But bad for team composition, his energy gain and health gain that helps the team doesn't work much when the team is all over the place(except defense mission)buuuuut if you just want to do ton of dmg(red crit) yea he's your guy

[rocky aurora]

Change your damage color to red /s

[wind smelt]

Sooooo I have being looking a way for me to buff the duration on everything on Protea but without taking away her strength, pther than arc crystals, that new arcane that came out actually helps too

[velvet pulsar]

Which arcane?
The duration one?

[wind smelt]

Yes, like Protea i pop her abilities very often that arcane can actually increase the duration for 60% within hmm 3 or 4 seconds i forgot but it helps

[velvet pulsar]

I still haven't farmed that one coz this week there wasn't a proper loot floor

But once I get it, it'll definitely go on Octavia, Protea, Limbo, and maybe almost any frame who uses molt efficiency

[wind smelt]

My artillery without taking away any strength mods or any archon crystals with just that arcane it went from 5 to 7 secs
Roar from 65(I believe) to 80
And the grenades around 25sec to 30+ secs

[wind smelt]

It's not that hard to farm to be honest with you

[velvet pulsar]

This week wasn't as good as last one

I'll try after weekly reset

Already overwhelmed with the update

They brought the Roathe event and Prime Vanguard farm at the same time.

[wind smelt]

No no just farm from the beginning for the material that you use to buy it from the guy and you'll instantly(maybe 2 or 3 ttimes) get enough to even max it out

[velvet pulsar]

I'll try that tomorrow then

[wind smelt]

Thats how I did it for mostly all of them

[velvet pulsar]

I'm saying the maphica drops were lesser this week

[oak coyote]

For lavos should I have toxin and heat up and against grineer do heat/corrosive?

[proven veldt]

guys why can't i put transient fortitude on titania

[proud anchor]

Viral+heat or corrosive+heat, the choice is yours

[proud anchor]

Can you show a screenshot?

[proven veldt]

nvm i can

[oak coyote]

I meant on lavos
I’d be universally using viral/heat

[proven veldt]

it just doesn't show it in the mod menu

unless i specifically search for it

[proud anchor]

Like for his augment? Then yeah combine his elements and make corrosive

[oak coyote]

Gotcha. So do
Mod: heat/viral
Lavos: corrosive?

[proud anchor]

Yep

[proven veldt]

DE don't want you to know this but you can put transient fortitude on your titania

[wintry olive]

guys i want to ask this stupid question but how the heck my epitaph trigger melee influence on atlas...it sound stupid but it happen.my atlas landslide only have melee exposure meanwhile my melee have melee influence

i have the clip

[keen crypt]

what arcane should i put in my open slot (hildryn)

ive been looking at aegis, augmented and expertise but idk

[latent musk]

What's the current meta for melting through bosses? (Warframe+Weapon)

[worthy siren]

usually something with hella firerate or something like the lex incarnon?

idk

ill leave

[outer mauve]

Is it recommended to use specific focus schools for specific frames or are the schools just universal for any frame? Just trying to find reason to change between schools. Like which schools benefit which frames most

[latent musk]

I have a Lex Prime Incarnon, and while it melts most enemies it seems to tickle bosses

[worthy siren]

usually zenurik for caster frames, but other than that you can use any for any

[worthy siren]

i use madurai for garuda

more slash damage

[worthy siren]

well mine does do good sp boss damage, but not like insane one shot kinda damage though

[latent musk]

Zenurik for frames that want a lot of energy, Naramon for melee focused frames, Madurai to beat the hell out of everyone else. Vazarin and Unairu are certainly there for comfort if you like em.

[outer mauve]

So no real reason to change school unless just want to

[worthy siren]

yeah, but some frames benefit more (depending on build) from certain schools than other

[latent musk]

I don't mind not oneshotting, but I'd like a realiable weapon that I can just take anywhere and know I won't be doing 1% of the damage to Roathe.

[gray garden]

torid build, what could i upgrade or change?

[keen crypt]

unless you using something really specific or doing void cascade lvl cap just use whatever really

[latent musk]

Situational, some frames really benefit from small buffs from specific schools, but for 90% of content you can just use whichever you love more.

[rocky aurora]

Depends on that riven

[gray garden]

180 crit 120 multishot

[rocky aurora]

No negative?

[gray garden]

nope

and lwo rolls, i could try to get smthng even better

[rocky aurora]

The #1 torid imo is the corrosive+blast+xatas whisper build, which wipes everything almost instantly

You can also go the typical viral+heat

Viral+slash is like whatever with it

[gray garden]

i am using hunter munitions cus i thougnt viral+slash= cool and if i add any other status effect it'll merge with ice and take away my beloved viral

[rocky aurora]

I do use viral+slash with nekros for orokin cell farming, though

[rocky aurora]

To counter that you mod viral like normal (toxin + cold) and then add heat

For viral+heat

[gray garden]

yh but then i lose a mod slot that i could use for crit multiplier or sum

[rocky aurora]

You have 3 slots right there

Hunter munitions, the empty one, and that one madurai polarity 7

Idk what that is because I only know English

[gray garden]

below the riven?

thats the 60 60 cold for viral

[rocky aurora]

Yea

OK so you have 2 slots left. Hunter munitions -> toxin 60/60, empty slot for heat 60/60

[gray garden]

hm, if i remove the hunter munitions i can add 60 60 toxin and 6060 heat, sounds good

[gray garden]

yh

[rocky aurora]

Then test in Simulacrum

[gray garden]

and for my arcanes, i am using the primary cruelty but i might also go for the head hunter

[rocky aurora]

Merciless, imo

[gray garden]

yh whatever

[rocky aurora]

Oh is that a translation difference?

Thought you were talking about something else

[gray garden]

uh

[gray garden]

should i try to roll a better riven?

i can always keep the previous ig

[rocky aurora]

That riven is ok, unfortunately it cant replace any of the mods youre using, which is preferable for a riven

[gray garden]

i spent 30k kuva and didnt get anything better, gambling wasnt with me today

[gaunt minnow]

The three weapons in my loadout with volt. The alternox prime has nothing because idk how i shoukd build it. Also is there anything i can do to make the pyrana and stropha build better?

[hearty nexus]

Finally maxed my arcanes

[rocky aurora]

Iirc Alternox is a status machine with innate electric. Electric stacks infinitely. Viral+electric would probably be good, but ive never used Alternox 🤷‍♂️

Pyrana is basically a mini shotgun and isn't much outside of being the best gun to use for Plague Star.

For your stropha, if you want to stick with Exposure then you dont need to mod in Corrosive. Would be better to use Blood Rush, though it looks like youre doing a heavy attack set up which will lose out against a 12x Blood Rush Influence build every time

Your stropha set up looks more like something you'd see on a Glaive, tbh

[gaunt minnow]

Im staying away from influence

[gaunt minnow]

Fr? 😭

[rocky aurora]

Yea

[gaunt minnow]

Would annimosity be better than exposure? I could also use blood rush then too

[rocky aurora]

Totally fine to not run influence. Exposure is greater damage for smaller aoe.

Tbh a general cowbarf setup would work great here

Condition Overload, Weeping Wounds, Blood Rush, Attack Speed, Range, Flex slot (faction mod)

[hearty nexus]

I might go arcane avenger over molt

[rocky aurora]

Holy, why would you subsume off her 2 😭

[rocky aurora]

Maybe mod in heat and have external viral priming, idk

[gaunt minnow]

I dont like faction mods either 😭 but if i use animosity plus bloodrush and an attack speed mod, i think it should be ok

Gotta test that actually

[hearty nexus]

Not benefiting me

[rocky aurora]

Faction mod is the #1 best way to increase your damage outside of using Roar

[rocky aurora]

Mesa's damage buff and AoE CC doesn't benefit you??

(Squad damage buff, btw)

[gaunt minnow]

I have eclipse on volt as well as shock trooper

[gray garden]

yh but to use those you gotta fight against lazyness

[hearty nexus]

She get the dmg buff?

[rocky aurora]

Of course she does lol

[hearty nexus]

I thought only her teammates did

[rocky aurora]

No, you can see the buff pop up on the right hand side of your screen when you use it

[gray garden]

yhhh, viral heat was a good one, ty

[rocky aurora]

Peak

You can try corrosive+blast with Xaku's xata whisper and itll be even stronger, for groups specifically

[rocky aurora]

Use this as well, the little bit of CC helps

[gray garden]

ight

[orchid vine]

does caliban get the extra damage from the slam on his second ability since it does a slam animation or does slam attack only count for melee weapons?

[gray garden]

lol, i tried it with my volt, what a death machine

[rocky aurora]

Only melee slam

His 2 is mainly for the CC and damage vulnerability, anyway

[rocky aurora]

That combo scales straight to level cap

[magic cargo]

guys how should i build uriel?

[rocky aurora]

Range and duration without going negative strength, leaning more into range

[magic cargo]

and what aura should i use on him?

[south brook]

which one of these is better for steel path?

[near vortex]

The first one

Why the heck would you run viral heat

[coral crest]

xoris force procs electric?

[near vortex]

You want more elec

Stronger electric procs

[elder ingot]

is this actually worth it?

for endgame content

[near vortex]

Only improvement I can see is higher level Influence and Amalgam Organ Shatter over base

[near vortex]

Very, if you know what you're doing

Two of them alone is 120% electric damage which is almost a whole primed electric mod

[elder ingot]

I mostly run Torid, Burston, Phantasma, Phenmor and Strun, so mostly status weapons

[near vortex]

If you're using pure elec or a combined status like blast elec or viral elec they're really strong

Cyte-09 in particular with electric resupply is cracked

[strong quest]

Does Oberon's Smite affect BOSSES (for the defense strip primarily, dont care about it doing dmg)

[astral tinsel]

or shock trooper volt

[strong quest]

Idk why i asked just enemies lol, of course it affects enemies, but will it strip armor from stuff like the new Old Peace bosses?

[near vortex]

The non-Neutralizer Cyte builds can run shock trooper with Sobek

Although I don't like cyte with a subsume

[astral tinsel]

I don't believe it does

but I think it works on the primes?

[strong quest]

Oookay so if i want to armor strip bosses I gotta find another subsume, thanks!

Ah good to know

[astral tinsel]

it does good damage though

[coral crest]

Most bosses have smite targeting immunity... But old peace bosses doesn't have that

Gotta test

[astral tinsel]

wait wait the dactolyst might be strippable

[coral crest]

Even Hunhullus doesn't have any sort of ability immunity

You can stab it with Garuda

Or hit it with catalyze

So none of them are out of question imo

[strong quest]

Oh interesting, well I was mostly just looking for a defense strip subsume and while it is the old peace that interests me atm, I would like the subsume to be useful outside of the gamemode

[astral tinsel]

I just remember spamming it a bunch on Roathe and his bar definitely stayed yellow

[coral crest]

They may be targetable but immune to its armor strip

[astral tinsel]

just slap on smite infusion and make the most contrived secondary irradiate builds

[strong quest]

I dont wanna corrosion armor strip with Oraxia so im looking for alternatives. Tharros Strike may have to do

Oh Smite infusion is another infusion skill but for Radiation, I guess that could be funny with iradiate yeah

Dont even build it into the weapon, but use the subsume, but eh, thats an idea for future me

[elder ingot]

Would build 1 with a bunch of tauforged purples be superior to build 2?

[coral crest]

There's always the option that breaks everything and works in 99.99% of cases

Shattering Impact Vastilok

[strong quest]

I mean, yeah, I have a build for it, but uh, Oraxia

[coral crest]

Oh yeah

She can't melee in her 4

[strong quest]

As funny as it would be, that is a level of Jank im not quite up for

[coral crest]

Her exalted... legs

[strong quest]

Lmao yeah

Well anyway, with persistence and health conversion Oraxia should be pretty safe to get up close and personal to armor strip, even with low range by using Tharros Strike

Just wanted to see if there was a good alternative

[coral crest]

Tharros is probably a great option, yeah

If it works on them..

[strong quest]

I lost my mind trying to solo the old Peace bosses with Caliban Prime. Hunhulist is eh, but the other two are such massive drags, and maybe its a skill issue but the Primes were downright impossible for me. If only there was a good way to trigger Razor Mortar onto them... Then i took out Dante and he had a nice walk in the park. Anyway im hoping Oraxia has as easy a time

Also can I just complain about how jank Caliban's armor strip is

Like, why is it so inconsistent and bad at affecting bosses?????

[strong quest]

Im pretty sure it does? At least i remember it affecting them back then, its been a while since ive used the lad though. I guess ill find out soon

[shrewd badger]

who should i try for nuke frames next? already did sevagoth

[strong quest]

Uriel isnt as spammable, but has a powerful nuke

[shrewd badger]

any that are spammable?

[coral crest]

None that require as little ability setup as Sevagoth for such a result

[shrewd badger]

i mean im fine with high investment builds but im bored of him and wanna try someone else

[coral crest]

Not talking about investment

[shrewd badger]

the builds ive seen for him dont offer much range or energy efficiency anyways

oh

[coral crest]

I mean the "amount of buttons to press"

[shrewd badger]

ooh

[coral crest]

Closest is probably Nezha

And even he requires to be rather fast and efficient

[shrewd badger]

never played him before

[coral crest]

But if you want general "nukes"

Or at least frames that have the "kill everything in sight" set up

[shrewd badger]

i mean i definitely want someone very powerful, with lots of range and doesnt consume ridiculous amounts of energy if at all possible

[strong quest]

The frames that can have that kind of potential are extremely limited, especially for stuff like steel path, where ability damage starts falling off hard

[shrewd badger]

ah gotcha

damn

[coral crest]

Garuda, Gauss, Voruna, Caliban, Xaku, Lavos(drastically increased set up time, more of a hybrid), Uriel(drastically increased set up time, more of a hybrid)

[shrewd badger]

i have played gauss before and slightly got to use garuda but not the rest

[strong quest]

Maybe you can get something to work by shoving as much strength as possible into a Revenant to get his max health damage skill to one shot, but that is very tricky to do even in Circuit where you get obscene strength buffs.

[coral crest]

I'd say Dante and Nezha but you mentioned energy issues

[coral crest]

The ones I listed have little to no energy issues

And scale into sp

[coral crest]

Actually all it takes is enthrall and some viral

[shrewd badger]

word ok id be interested in garuda or gauss or xaku since i kinda know them

[strong quest]

What about nuking with Dante requires good energy sustain? Cause my main dante build has 0 energy issues, and my energy source is power nexus. It does have like minimum duration though

[coral crest]

He is just extremely cast heavy and has no innate energy sustain.

[elder ingot]

is there a way for it to not combine into magnetic due to the violet archon shards?

[coral crest]

I am a bit in the wrong for mentioning gauss, but he's very popular yet people overlook Sunder on him

[elder ingot]

(so that the elements are viral electric)

[coral crest]

Xaku is not a traditional "nuke", but the turrets are a "death by thousand cuts" ability that scales with enemy level. So it pretty much never falls off

[shrewd badger]

what about garuda and gauss

[coral crest]

Garuda has infinite energy and a nuclear blood bomb

Shes strong, but extremely fast paced

[pure reef]

Any gamers got some more against the grain Cyte-09 build tips? Im not too interested in Sobek and instead use Neutralizer. I've been enjoying Arcane Concentration even though his 4 doesn't snapshot it. I haven't messed around with stacking firerate or even a non-acuity. build. Just looking for inspo really

[shrewd badger]

oh that sounds fun, is her nuke confusing to do

[pure reef]

Nah Garuda is fairly straightforward, she's just kinda high APM.

[coral crest]

Her 1 takes enemy's hp percentage, holding it amplifies the stored dmg

Then you let it go

4 primes enemies for slash damage, so 1 passes through armor

[shrewd badger]

ooh thats sick so pretty easy

[coral crest]

Her 3 converts hp to energy

Pair it with Molt reconstruct and you have infinite energy

Pair it with brief respite and you have infinite shields

[pure reef]

Just build into cast speed mainly. It's completely overkill but I use five Tau Yellows

[shrewd badger]

that sounds insane

[coral crest]

It also cleanses all status

[shrewd badger]

thats quite a lot

[coral crest]

And while her 1 is active all damage taken from the front is stored by the ball

And she gains knockdown immunity

[shrewd badger]

is there a sp nuke build yall recommend because theres 100ms

100’s

[coral crest]

Garuda is a psychotic immortal god but she turns Kills Per Minute into Keyboard Press/Minute

[barren ore]

anyone have uriel builds?

[pure reef]

Garuda is the most slept on broken frame IMO. Girl is the only frame who can generate Infinite energy in a vacuum. She has a 35m AoE nuke with no LoS. Infinite damage combo with subsumes. Can make any instance of damage force a slash proc.

She can also fly

[coral crest]

She doesn't need subsumes for anything in fact

[shrewd badger]

LoS?

[coral crest]

And she also got an exalted weapon out of nowhere

[coral crest]

Line of sight

Certain nuke abilities are limited by your camera

[shrewd badger]

oooh

[coral crest]

Like Dante's

[shrewd badger]

gotcha and what about gauss,

?*

[coral crest]

I think the most insane part about her is that she has a fully empty ability that can be subsumed for literally anything without losing anything

[fierce lark]

some youtube video i watched the other day said gauss was top 10 must be good

[coral crest]

He's very versatile, fast and his thermal sunder has infinite scaling

[strong quest]

Her Heal?

[shrewd badger]

oh ok sick

[coral crest]

Yeah

[strong quest]

Yeah I put gloom there lol

[coral crest]

Its a part of her old kit that doesn't really function for her current version

She's still a perfectly functional health tank though

If you wanna feel cool about it

[pure reef]

I mean she's technically losing an Arcane slot instead but it's hardly a tradeoff given how much better Reconstruct is than Blood Altar.

But yeah you're free to subsume whatever. Breach Surge is the goat but I really like Wyrd Scythes. More spinning and screaming and hurling projectiles just fits her whole vibe

[coral crest]

There's a lot of weird synergies

Ppl who put Nourish on her are wasting the slot tbh

[shrewd badger]

whats the best sp nuke build for her yall recommend

[hushed harbor]

hmm, if i'm synergizing with Gyre what should i put in my last slot

[coral crest]

There's really a lot to choose from

[pure reef]

Even Eclipse feels unnecessary, I don't ever feel like my abilities don't deal enough damage

[coral crest]

I gave you a bunch of example. Go comfort first

[coral crest]

Why would you use eclipse on Garuda? Her passive is literally just a 100% dmg eclipse

The only thing Garuda can't do is change her primary energy color

It's all blood

[hexed lodge]

I'm not sure if you should put Gloom on Garuda or not, many state it's anti synergetic

[sterile flume]

what stat should u focus on for wukong

[mighty flare]

nourish isnt just used for dmg boost, although it excels at that

[strong quest]

How so? Garuda wants health to use her energy gain skill, Gloom gives heal on hit, what is anti synergistic?

[coral crest]

Slows outside her range

Slows everything down

[pure reef]

I don't really fw any of her augments, I say leave them be for now.

Build for heaps of range, 280% if you can. Honest to god use Natural Talent and eventually promote yourself to Tau Yellow Shards. Cast speed effects how quickly you lunge to targets with her 1, as well as the rest of her kit.

[coral crest]

You don't really need all that much cast speed on her

2 tau shards is all you need, idk why people obsess over more

There's a huge falloff, you barely get anything out of more

[strong quest]

Oh slows IN RANGE, gotcha. I mean i guess yeah, cause the mirror being hit empowers her nuke and slowing them down reduces the damage they do to the mirror

Well if it matters than much then throw in Tharros Strike. On demand heal AND armor strips too!

[pure reef]

With infinite energy the only limiting factor is how quickly you can cast your 3 & another ability so spamspam for the blood god

[pure reef]

Uh mostly because it's pretty funny

[hexed lodge]

The slow radius is larger than the bloodball, aka stalling, and you actually want enemies shooting the mirror to charge it faster.

[strong quest]

Yeye someone already said, and yall are right. So use Tharros strike instead if you want a skill that heals, you also get an armor strip for your troubles

[hexed lodge]

Yeah, many other healing options are more synergetic with garuda, and I'm a gloom glazer lol

[coral crest]

Nourish is ok on her but there's so much more to do

If you want to compete with a fictional scenario of playing alongside 3 slamkongs(why are you doing that), just use vigorous swap

[strong quest]

Honestly my main Garuda build is heretical anyway (low range, dont kill me) so i didnt even think about the slow reducing the scaling

[coral crest]

Heresy is but a contrivance

Nothing wrong in that

[hexed lodge]

You always learn something new, don't sweat it~

[coral crest]

It's not like you can't turn her into a lower range gun platform or whatever

She has a perfect kit for it

She can even run sobek

[strong quest]

My main idea for a Garuda build was using her 1 augment for survivability, so i went for as much duration as humanly possible. 22 or so seconds of not die is what I got, while maintaining good strength and efficiency

I find it hard to stay alive with her even with the mirror up

[coral crest]

My experience of her 1 augment is just

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-punch-fight-kratos-gif-7990500

Repeatedly trying to stab until the threshold is reached

[strong quest]

Lmao i kinda struggle with that too, and Oraxia as well. Trying so hard to not kill the enemy outright so you can execute

[hexed lodge]

what's the 1's thredhold?

[coral crest]

40%

[strong quest]

40% hp

[hexed lodge]

[strong quest]

With Oraxia its 50% tho, still hard to get the enemy exactly to that and not just kill them though

[mighty flare]

you can run smite now and never worry about it

[pure reef]

"unkillable" isn't invincible. You just get reduced to 2hp and when you typically want to turn HP into energy you can get caught out in a bad situation.

That being said you gotta be kinda trolling to end up with zero energy while playing her so it's still a pretty dope aug

[coral crest]

I use Garuda with Vial Rush because casting it with the mirror active is a nice drunk driving simulator

[pure reef]

Fire interaction that's clever as

[strong quest]

Oh yeahhh you could Smite a few times to get them low enough for execute

[coral crest]

Every enemy on your way is ragdolled and thrown to the side

[mighty flare]

iirc smite caps at 50% on helminth, so its casting once for both before their leap

[coral crest]

Yeah, smite is instant kill territory for her

Very handy if you're into that sort of thing

[strong quest]

Twice for the 40% girlypop, (And more for rad resistant enemies) but yeah youre right

[coral crest]

It also procs her 4 if you are into that as well

[pure reef]

Kavats Grace is handy for Gooda too. Sometimes casting your 4 when a little off the ground gives you enough upward momentum and animation endlag that you just get forced into the hard landing

[coral crest]

Just slide...

[pure reef]

Animation endlag means U can't

[coral crest]

I don't think I ever had that problem

(2 tau cast speed shards)

Maybe on very low ceilings

Oh yeah she also has blood forge

[pure reef]

I said handy not the undisputed goat

[coral crest]

The augment that allows you to bypass reload gimmicks

[pure reef]

Plus you got like three empty mod slots you can build her for whatever you want lbr

[coral crest]

True enough

[pure reef]

Speed drift natural talent five cast shards

[coral crest]

Idk it scales slower than ability str after the soft cap of 2 shards

Oh right

Animation speed, I guess

Anyways, back to important matters

Like feeding my cat

[obsidian obsidian]

If i put arcane bulwark on my primary will the dmg buff apply to my melee too or just the primary?

[pure reef]

It's a Primary Arcane so just what it's equipped on

[strong quest]

Just primary

[coral crest]

It's only primary

It used to be a universal damage boost though

Before the fix

[strong quest]

Apparently people have managed to stat stick it into Archguns and have it affect primaries, but idk if that was fixed

[coral crest]

It wasn't just affecting primaries

[obsidian obsidian]

So what if i put it on the vinquibus?

[coral crest]

It was a universal bonus, like arachne or swap

[coral crest]

Vinquibus would work, that's it

[obsidian obsidian]

Im a smart boy

[coral crest]

You are

[strong quest]

Wait the bonus does actually transfer to the melee part of the Vinquibus?

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-pet-cat-cat-pet-cute-cat-gif-24810247

[coral crest]

No

They're separate weapons that share forma and potatoes

[strong quest]

Oh, gotcha

[obsidian obsidian]

Potatoes xd

[coral crest]

You can also rename them separately at Cetus and Fortuna

[obsidian obsidian]

Is there an arcane like prim bulwark for melee?

[coral crest]

Nope

[obsidian obsidian]

Bummer

[coral crest]

Melees have lots of good arcanes anyway

[strong quest]

Dont think so, no. But an arcane that has an easy to trigger conditional is Careen, wont trigger on status capped bosses though I dont think

[coral crest]

Not addressing the influence shaped elephant in the room

[slate robin]

Hey Someone can help me with this build I already unlock the steel path and I need more damage can someone help me upgreading this build?

[strong quest]

Imma be honest ive somehow never gotten a good Nataruk build. Idk what is wrong with mine but it just doesnt do all that well for me at SP. My biggest recomendation would be to go for Galvanized Mods though, Namely Chamber and Aptitude

[coral crest]

I would've said something but I don't know this language

[strong quest]

Spanish. Vigilante Armaments and Speed Trigger can be replaced by those

And Point Strike is more than good enough for Crit chance for the perfect shots so swap out Critical Delay

[strong quest]

Gatillo Veloz is Speed Trigger, Armamentos del Vigilante is Vigillante Armaments and I dont know what spanish point strike would be

[coral crest]

Consider changing the elements to viral and/or heat

[strong quest]

Yeah get Galvanized Chamber and Aptitude, replace Vigilante Armaments and Speed Trigger for them, and you can change Cirtical Delay for Point Strike if you want.

Also yeah Viral and heat are the classic damage dealing elemental combo

Also consider getting an Arcane adapter from teshin (dunno if youve killed enough acolytes for that though) so you can get stuff like Primary Deadhead

[slate robin]

Where can I get galvanized mods?

[strong quest]

Any relay from the Arbiters, you farm the recourses required to buy the mods from Arbitrations

And no, you dont need to be in the factions good graces

[coral crest]

You'll need to do arbitration missions in alerts

[slate robin]

This one?

[coral crest]

They're difficult, but yeah

[strong quest]

Yes, thats the mission to farm them

[coral crest]

You'll have no straightforward revives and drones make enemies immune to dmg and drones themselves can't take ability dmg

Better join in coop with randoms or friends

[strong quest]

Then you go to any relay that isnt Maroo's and buy it from the faction

Multiplayer or hard to kill frames are very recomended

[kind mica]

how do i increase survivability for level cap, i have rolling guard and im using ember for overguard but i feel like its not enough, or is it just a skill issue at that point

[slate robin]

Thx everyone

[near snow]

Anyone have a Uriel build they recommend? Id love to see it and make a few tweaks

[past urchin]

why is my gauss still not powerful enough for steel path? also, what weapon should i use?

[near snow]

Can you show me your load out and archon shards

[past urchin]

you are gonna be pissed... have never done archon till now

[strong quest]

That’s fine. What is the part of Gauss that is lacking? Damage or survivability?

[past urchin]

also, what weapon should i be using? rn torn betweem nataruk and acceltra with gauss

[near snow]

Oh shi, you should get some if you can and make sure your weapons are modded with good dmg too, your Gauss look fine tho

[past urchin]

mostly damage, just tried interception on earth and couldnt get rid of those grenier fast enough

[full girder]

Anyone got a good kuva sobek build

[strong quest]

I don’t play Gauss so idk if they have abilities that are good at damage for SP. Nataruk is good, though I can’t get much out of it. What is your MR?

[past urchin]

this is my acceltra btw

[near snow]

Nataruk is good but not necessarily good if you want to go fast because acceltra is better and I recommend it or burston.

[past urchin]

17

[near snow]

U need more crit chance

[strong quest]

You can start using the Base Incarnon weapons. Get the Laetun, Phenmor and or Felarx, they will change your life.

I don’t use Acceletra so I can’t comment on the build unfortunately

[past urchin]

yeah. this nataruk couldnt keep up with earth steel path intercaption

[strong quest]

Yeah no, idk how good the acceletra is but it might just be time to swap to other weapons. The base incarnons have evolutions that let them deal such ridiculous damage, you won’t regret getting them

[past urchin]

i have an un-upgraded phenom, is it good?

[past urchin]

what should i replace?

[strong quest]

Get the evolutions and give it a decent build, and yes it will be good.

[hexed lodge]

Swap argon scope for Cold to get viral + slash, or for Electric and Hunter for Heat to get Corr+heat, useful against grineer

Yes phenom is great

[coral crest]

Phenmor!!!

[ornate echo]

try a nataruk riven haha

[strong quest]

Phenmor and the rest of the base Incarnon family is very single targeted, but it devours the enemies souls

[hexed lodge]

i forgut, rip~

[ornate echo]

true I run incarnons cuz gun eating souls is peak aura farming

just gotta decide which one to focus on other than felarx

[past urchin]

speaking of rivens, is any of these for a good weapon that are worth not rerolling?

[coral crest]

Soma and Kohm are probably worth keeping

Soma especially

It's a nice incarnon status gun

[strong quest]

I mean the two guns are good depending on what you want. They fulfill kinda the same niche, just one is primary the other is secondary. Supposedly the Laetun is better though

[past urchin]

you mean these two? how are their rolls?

[fierce lark]

both terrible

[past urchin]

fr? even the kohm? i thought that one was really good

[fierce lark]

i think even onthe kuva kohm i really don't want -rls

it's not as destructive as it is with other guns but it's still a really bad neg

[strong quest]

Dunno what is good for the Kohm but following the trend for Rivens, magazine capacity and status chance are usually not the greatest

Multi shot is good though unless the weapon wants Acuity

And it’s a gunshot so no

[mighty flare]

sorta skill issue, gating with healing flames is kinda it for cap ember
you can cope with vazarin and the invis mod

[obtuse locust]

yes

[ornate echo]

unairu

[past urchin]

what do i want then?

[obtuse locust]

is this bulid at all good? its for thr hespar

[fierce lark]

i was telling a joke

[obtuse locust]

ooh.....

[fierce lark]

like hurr hurr it's melee use influence

[strong quest]

If the Kohm builds crit, crit dmg is probably good, then an elemental damage boost and multi shot

[fierce lark]

🤪

[strong quest]

Dunno what negatives might be fine for it; probably Zoom

[fallow salmon]

anyone got a good Cedo Prime build ? with maybe a vid ? thanks

[fierce lark]

kkohm isn't anything special, wants the usual cc cd ms tox cold

[ornate echo]

^ i want one i have a cedo riven

[past urchin]

like this?

[proud kestrel]

Wait do people do 2 green Tau shards or normal for their corrosive stacking?

[past urchin]

or is that ass?

[fierce lark]

probably doesn't want cold so it doens't have to give up primed chilling grasp

[fierce lark]

that's horrid

[past urchin]

sorry

[strong quest]

Elemental, not slash puncture or impact, and try to retain the Multishot, maybe get a crit damage boost too

[obtuse locust]

anyone know if this is a good enough bulid? its for the hespar

[fierce lark]

+IPS is almost always bad

[mighty flare]

add an elemental mod like primed fever strike over carnis
organ shatter --> galvanized steel
fury --> condition overload
use discplines merits for exilus

[obtuse locust]

ty ty

[rocky aurora]

2 tau puts you over required stacks for 100% armor strip. 2 normal is 95%, 100% is 1 tau and 1 normal iirc

[fierce lark]

i think i would only take a slash riven on the harmony specifically because it buffs the forced slash dot from heavies iirc

and you can do some dumb doughty stuff with puncture rivens if you feel like

[mighty flare]

?

[past urchin]

?

[mighty flare]

slash doesnt do anything for harmony

[rocky aurora]

Whats the riven, though?

[obtuse locust]

i havent gotten anything better than damage and range

[rocky aurora]

Yikes

[fierce lark]

yeah idk why i thought it did, normal harmony builds don't add any slash mods

other status effects directly calculate damage from the amount of that element modded on the weapon

[obtuse locust]

that bad?@rocky aurora

[rocky aurora]

You can use it to replace Reach

[mighty flare]

for harmony, its like the only weapon that likes a status duration roll

[fierce lark]

+dmg +dura +range +ic ig

[rocky aurora]

Thats about it without rerolling

[brittle sleet]

Kohm riven here isn't a godroll but is overall pretty good, issue is the riven doesn't clearly beat out most mods you'd otherwise run on it, like here https://overframe.gg/build/936001/kuva-kohm/kuva-kohm-viral-electric-crux/

[dim orbit]

Excuse me. Does anyone know what kind of build makes Wisp apply all status effects to enemies at the same time?

[rocky aurora]

A secondary with Encumber equipped

[brittle sleet]

Your general idea for "is this riven good" will just be "does it outperform any mod I'd be running otherwise?"

[fierce lark]

probably a build that has contagious diriga going pewpewpewpew

[coral crest]

Or a hound!

[past urchin]

ok, ty

[coral crest]

These are better at lighting up the room with status all things considered

[rocky aurora]

Galv steel over mandible, riven should replace p.reach and last slot should be faction mod

[brittle sleet]

Without subsumes that's dependent on a companion, with subsumes the only one that spreads a variety of statuses I can think of would be Decoy with an augment

[rocky aurora]

No clue what hespar stats are, I stay away from heavy scythes

[fierce lark]

the phallus is nice

i mean thalys

[past urchin]

the soma is a crit weapon right? so something like this would be bad?

[fierce lark]

+status chance is not ideal and literally removing all of the slash damage is also not ideal

[past urchin]

so no, ill reroll then

[fierce lark]

good negatives are zoom, recoil, ammo max (which im pretty sure doesn't affect the incarnon form)

-damage to infested is an okay negative since infested are piss anyway

[strong quest]

To add to the thumbs down, that one is fine, free corrosive, but it could be so much better

[past urchin]

is this good?

[fierce lark]

this is fully unslottable unless you're running nourish, i think

not really

[strong quest]

You don’t want increases to IPS on rivens, if you replaced that Slash with a Multishot it would be perfect though, maybe. Some people might prefer a different element than electric

[rocky aurora]

Yea electric on a soma, idk

Id take electric on a melee riven though

[fierce lark]

like it's okay but +elec forces you to build corrosive or electric status dmg, which is not typically ideal on fast status-stacking weapons

[rocky aurora]

Exactly

[strong quest]

Of course you would, Influence has changed the world.

[fierce lark]

elec is basically the only status you don't want lol

[strong quest]

Cold is preferable?

[fierce lark]

cold and tox can replace a viral mod and heat can replace/add to your heat mod

[past urchin]

so reroll?

[strong quest]

Ah yeah for viral

[rocky aurora]

Ye

[strong quest]

Yep

[past urchin]

then ill do that later after farming for the reroll resource

[fierce lark]

also you want rivens to have inconsequential negatives, having a negative makes your stat numbers higher

[strong quest]

Zoom can be annoying to work with, but it’s probably the best negative to get

[fierce lark]

minus zoom is a positive

[rocky aurora]

Yea, like this

Peak

[fierce lark]

idk why in the actual hell the furis has so much zoom on it lol

[strong quest]

Or if your weapon doesn’t have one of the IPS damage types, getting that as a negative is good, like an ocucor riven with -slash

[fierce lark]

but yeah the furis is one of those weapons that loves any and all sources of +status

[rocky aurora]

Status damage machine

[fierce lark]

i dont think you can get an ips mod for a status the gun doesn't have

[rocky aurora]

Anything to stack that heat

[fierce lark]

unless you have one and im just wrong

[strong quest]

Oh I’ve been meaning to ask, is building the furis incarnon around the crit damage evolution that wants less than 40% crit chance a fools errand?

[fierce lark]

yes

[rocky aurora]

Yes

[strong quest]

I figured, but you never know in this game lmao, thanks

[fierce lark]

run elemental balance and melt everything

[brittle sleet]

Modding for viral on your weapons is very far from necessary nowadays anyway since companions prime very well

[gleaming brook]

is nami solo incarnon worth the hype?

[coral crest]

Yes, it's like a pocket exalted

100% follow through

[brittle sleet]

Also electric is a very good DPS status in competition with heat thanks to its AoE and instant damage tick, while heat builds up and armor strips

Without acknowledging heat inherit issues

If we do acknowledge heat inherit then it's also worth mentioning you'll have more consistent DPS in public squads with electric

Electricity also interacts well with headshot mechanics

[strong quest]

Issues? I’ve only heard of inherit as a good thing. Though I guess if something applies heat before you do the proc is doomed to the effects of that one, which could be un ideal…

[versed harbor]

ye

[gleaming brook]

ty im 3 tiers off it

[brittle sleet]

Correct. That Gauss spamming Thermal Sunder everywhere? Affects your heat proc's damage and not necessarily in a good way

But you can affect their heat proc's damage too if you apply first stack

Electricity gets one last shout out for being strong against one of the more notable endgame factions: Murmur

[fierce lark]

in theory

in practice, if your gun is mostly status damage, heat is still better

the whole inheriting damage from previous stacks thing outweighs any faction bonuses

plus a lot of murmur have armor, so heat is adding damage there as well

[inner nexus]

umm

inf ???

[brittle sleet]

Well with Kohm as the subject matter for the riven and being a mixed DPS weapon, like most modern weapons since being all in on crit or status is almost not a thing anymore, electricity's good points have to be noted

[brittle sleet]

This is a bug with Overcharge that the devs are working to address, it's only a display error

[inner nexus]

would hae been fun thought :D

thx for info

[fierce lark]

the biggest benefit to electricity is that its status effect applies instantly and as an aoe

so it technically does its damage faster for the first tick

and is better with dedicated grouping

or for shotguns because there's a primed charged shell, and no primed heated charge (not relevant to the riven)

i think that's genuinely the only reason the strun runs electric over heat lol

+75% on your primary damage element is a big deal

[brittle sleet]

Secondaries get extra incentive to run heat DPS for sure with Cascadia Flare

[unborn crag]

hihi does anybody have any good railjack builds? struggling w flee'd liches

[fierce lark]

that definitely applies to some of them

but it's more because there is a primed secondary heat mod

[strong quest]

Let me check mine

[unborn crag]

ty!

[fierce lark]

but also, at least in my experience so far, most of the good secondary weapons are just status handcannons

so they function better with heat anyway

[strong quest]

Also, do you have NPC Crewmates on your ship? If the answer is no, getting them should be your top priority

[quiet laurel]

cascadia flare, orange shards, the new focus school arcane, DE is basically forcing us to go heat on secondaries

[fierce lark]

you almost can't do solo railjack without a dedicated engineer

[unborn crag]

I do, they were gotten some odd 3 years ago when I had no idea what they did, are there any specific crewmates I should be focusing on?
My railjack also isn't fully upgraded just yet, I haven't focused any on it because I hate trying to do RJ

[strong quest]

Having a dedicated Engineer npc makes your railjack immortal, yeah. After that i would go for one that is good for killing things on the ship and another that can man a turret

[fierce lark]

the focus school arcane is actually anti-synergistic with heat sort of

it adds a separate instance of heat damage which doesn't combine, so by running heat over another base element you lose out on a status for galv shot

that's like the most copium thing ive said this week but still

technically true xd

[unborn crag]

okay well awesome for me I have both of those already, so crewmate basis covered!

[fierce lark]

sorry not a separate damage instance but like a separate non-combining heat mod, same as fireball frenzy

[quiet laurel]

seperate damage instance??? thats insane

was boutta say

[fierce lark]

lmao no i dont think so

hotta's whisper maybe next year

[strong quest]

Sweet, ill tell you what mods I ahve in a sec

[unborn crag]

awesome, thank you!

[coral crest]

Focus school arcane

You mean the tectolyst artifact ones?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[coral crest]

Ah, the one that adds heat to secondaries

I understand now

[fierce lark]

really the only one worth slotting atm because we don't generate tauron charge fast enough to properly utilize the others, imo

[quiet laurel]

I've been really bad with the names of new arcanes

like energize so simple and then we get tongue twisters as arcanes

[coral crest]

i like it, they should do that more

they should force newspeak upon us

[fierce lark]

the flamethrower amp is heat damage right

[coral crest]

i want half the build discussions in voidtongue

[versed harbor]

nah

[strong quest]

The weapons are dealers choice but I like Pulsar a lot and its the best for side turrets so your npcs and fellow tenno dont have to try to lead their shots while you move the ship. The final mod in the first picture is flex, and Seeker volley can pretty much kill anything by itself if you level it enough.

[fierce lark]

so if you're playing mesa you can't stack the focus arcane and topaz shards at the same time

cringing my ass off

[strong quest]

I went for Laith for more upfront damage on the drivers gun, but I miss the Pulsar precision

And the third mod array is kinda dealers choice too

[rigid venture]

Yo I’m trying to get the star divide stance mod for my tonfas

How I get it plss

[fierce lark]

conclave

[rigid venture]

What’s that

[rigid venture]

Oh ty

[sleek socket]

What works best for Uriel? I went with a summoned build focusing on ability strength

[fierce lark]

high range, decently high duration and some ability strength

you dont need a lot of strength in mods, a lot of it comes from camisado

[strong quest]

I try to go for high strength to make the runes as powerful as possible though

[crisp merlin]

So I picked up Mesa Prime. This might be a general question, but should I still focus on arcane guardian/adaptation for survivability?

I'm planning on pairing it with Arcane Precision

[fierce lark]

if you're doing primarily weapons based uriel you'd probably slot pcont stretch pflow and like 300+ strength

sub roar over 4

use 1 to proc hotshot, 2 to stay alive and 3 for supa hot fire

primed stretch when

[dapper glen]

Any good offensive power to put in place of wisp 4th ability ?

[coral crest]

Are these usable in normal game?

[rocky aurora]

Kronen Prime and prisma ohma, sure.

Even boltace can do...something

They're not very spectacular, the Kronen Prime is the best one there, though

[plucky shuttle]

Hello my tennos. I would like to see your Cedo Prime builds.

[coral crest]

I'm talking about stances

[rocky aurora]

Stances are used throughout every stage of the game, yes

A melee should have a stance equipped

[coral crest]

That's not what I'm talking about!!! I'm mr23

[rocky aurora]

Wtf are you talking about lmao

[coral crest]

I mean whether conclave exclusive stance mods are slottable on weapons outside of it

[fierce lark]

they're asking if the conclave mod is usable

[rocky aurora]

No, only conclave mod ever used outside of it is Double Tap for the Latron, partly because you can buy it from Nightwave

[coral crest]

Bah

[drowsy herald]

Ican share mine tomorrow. It's a mixed bag but it gets the job done pretty well. I've gone till level 400 with it. I don't really do level cap runs

[coral crest]

we got shitty conclave augments for warframes

[fierce lark]

ngl i didn't know that either

dude is probably out trying to grind conclave for a stance he can't use

[coral crest]

Why not those stances

Idc if they're lame what if they look cool af

[rocky aurora]

Different stances have different attacks (obviously) which can have different forced status procs and damage %

[plucky shuttle]

Yes please, thats what I need

[old marsh]

all r. lots r used in builds. best buy the ones from nightwave. not the market

[fierce lark]

is the cedo's innate CO multi or additive with base dmg

[coral crest]

Add

[drowsy herald]

I sent you a friend request. I'll send it in your messages tomorrow

[coral crest]

Ignores falloff

Etc etc

[plucky shuttle]

K Im waiting.

[drowsy herald]

U can also look online thee are plenty of good ones. You can never really go wrong with cedo

[fierce lark]

so you do normal shotgun build but run shotgun vendetta or smth instead of deadhead

[olive birch]

hiiii looking for some friends to help me with making my builds better for steel path

[drowsy herald]

I run frostbite because that's what I have. But I think others work well too

[coral crest]

It's just a crit auto shotgun

[olive birch]

I love warframes I only have to use abilities and be strong

[coral crest]

Alt fire is nice to prime but that's it

[fierce lark]

crit shotgun with galv apt built in

shoot alt once and hold m1

[coral crest]

Yep

[drowsy herald]

Bam bam bam

[rocky aurora]

Garuda 🤷‍♂️

[coral crest]

Chews through ammo quite a bit though

[fierce lark]

looks like a very 7/10 gun

[coral crest]

Cedo's good, but nothing extra notable

Pays the alt fire price

[olive birch]

whats a good build for her i have her but I dont know how play/build her to be good

[fierce lark]

i remember back in the day it was hailed

because you needed to prime things to kill them and cedo has auto aoe prime fire

[coral crest]

It's always hailed. Lavos propaganda and all

[drowsy herald]

Once I get my lavos to be more survivable I'll be back to preaching for him

[fierce lark]

persistance ophidian bite or something

[coral crest]

Max range, 139 str, molt reconstruct, Blending Talons augment, two cast speed shards

You're set

Everything else is dressing for your comfort

[drowsy herald]

Oh that's the augment I was missing

[fierce lark]

persistance is an arcane, the one that caps your dmg taken at 500/s if you have enough armor

[drowsy herald]

I have the valence one

[fierce lark]

ophidian bite is his 1 ability, which heals you

[drowsy herald]

What's the thing which makes one of the things recastable

[coral crest]

Lingering Transmutation

My phone kept correcting it to Lingerie Transmutation

[drowsy herald]

[olive birch]

tyyy let's see how well i can do this lolll

[fierce lark]

[coral crest]

1 takes off enemy hp and holding it charges the ball to throw

Pick the beefiest enemies

[rocky aurora]

Garuda passive: Up to 100% bonus damage to all weapons.
Her 1: use on an enemy to get a shield in front of you that blocks all incoming damsge except for aoe next to you. Damage dealt to her 1 shield is absorbed into the heart at the top of it. Hold 1 to charge it up and then throw her 1 to deal the damage that is stored
(This is her nuke)
2: Subsume this off for Nourish
3: Her infinite energy ability. With the Molt Reconstruct arcane, you have infinite energy on demand.
4: AoE Slash status prime and also procs Viral when Nourish is active

Use Vigorous Swap on Garuda because it adds 165% multiplicative damage to her 1 damage

Nuke rotation: Use 1 on eximus (or other high HP enemy), use 4, hold 1, use your weapon swap hotkey, throw your 1, everything is Thanos snapped

[drowsy herald]

Nuclear box give me your build for lavos pls

[coral crest]

You don't need nourish on Garuda pls

[olive birch]

ohhhhh i didnt even realise she had a hold moove

[drowsy herald]

I need to get garuda prime ASAP this looks fire

[olive birch]

uggghhh i dont even have grendel

[coral crest]

You don't need nourish on Garuda

[olive birch]

why everyone got to have his helmith

[coral crest]

Viral priming for an attack that already does 50mil dmg through armor

Silly

[rocky aurora]

And energy gain multiplier

[fierce lark]

you don't need nourish in general, unless you have frequent energy issues roar is usually better

[coral crest]

Just tap 3 twice

[rocky aurora]

Garuda's nuke damage scales with enemy level, so it goes all the up to level cap with no issues

[coral crest]

And in normal combat setting you will be eating orbs anyway

Energy is absolutely not an issue on Garuda

You don't need nourish nor viral priming

[rocky aurora]

Lmao

Nourish + 3 gives full energy in 1 cast

Her 4 primes viral on enemies

1 nukes everythings

[quiet laurel]

people just be hating on nourish for the sake of hating on it

[rocky aurora]

Fr

[coral crest]

I'm not hating on Nourish

[olive birch]

you've lost me

[quiet laurel]

nourish is BiS subsume on garuda I am sure of that

[rocky aurora]

It is

[coral crest]

I'm just saying that it's a waste of potential

[rocky aurora]

No, its not

[fierce lark]

i dont think anyone is hating on nourish, but it is overused

[olive birch]

im a simple girl I just copy builds i dont know how everything works

[coral crest]

Giving more dmg and energy to a frame with infinite dmg and energy

[quiet laurel]

nourish affects 1 and 4 and gives you instant energy on a 3 cast

[rocky aurora]

Exactly

[drowsy herald]

Iam not farming for grendel until iam retired

[rocky aurora]

That's the point of using nourish on garuda

[coral crest]

Like there has to be a point where it's enough

[quiet laurel]

she has infinite dmg but how fast you can scale it is another thing

[fierce lark]

copying build without understanding how they work can be detrimental, sometimes things are built a certain way for a specific reason

[rocky aurora]

We just told you

[coral crest]

Just vig swap

[novel bear]

Viral is more effective than roar

[coral crest]

Is already more than enough

[rocky aurora]

I guarantee you will not be one shotting eximus

[coral crest]

I always do

[rocky aurora]

Without nourish

[coral crest]

Idk what you're doing wrong

[rocky aurora]

Dont believe it

[coral crest]

Unless you're like fighting alongside slamkongs

[rocky aurora]

You use her 1 once, vig swap, throw it, and it one shots eximus without a full charge?

[coral crest]

Why do I not hold it for like a tiny bit

[drowsy herald]

Nourish fans in the chat

[coral crest]

This kpm pissing contest is so silly

[rocky aurora]

Ive used Garuda on 20+ level cap cascades and thay doesnt happen until around level 5000+

[coral crest]

If you pick hp off that exact eximus it will be enough in 99% or cases after 4

[rocky aurora]

With 3 1 casts, sure

[coral crest]

How is your dmg so low

[quiet laurel]

soooo why we arguing about this again

[coral crest]

Besides

[rocky aurora]

Its not, hitting beyond damsge cap with Garuda is the easiest thing

[quiet laurel]

nourish is best in slot, end of discussion

[coral crest]

Do you like not have pets

[quiet laurel]

use it if you wanna use it or dont

[coral crest]

By the point pets start exploding your dmg is enough

[coral crest]

Im not saying it's not best in slot

[rocky aurora]

Im flying around the tileset using her 4+1 combo constantly, the only times I dont need to use her 4 is when enemy level is high enough and theyre shooting the 1 shield before I charge it

Insta 1-2 second nukes need nourish

[coral crest]

Never needed it for that, oh well

[rocky aurora]

You must not be doing hard content 🤷‍♂️

[coral crest]

I am running her for caps

[rocky aurora]

🤷‍♂️

[coral crest]

Do you play solo?

[rocky aurora]

Both

[coral crest]

Fair enough

[rocky aurora]

Yea usually there's someine else with nourish anyway

[coral crest]

Well, haven't had the issue. Feels like something's not accounted for that isn't being addressed

Either solo or online

[rocky aurora]

You can see my build above, I know garuda

[coral crest]

I know her too

[rocky aurora]

Perfect, then you know why im using nourish

Do you use a subsume? Genuine question

[coral crest]

Jeez, I'm not saying it's not best in slot

For casting it is absolutely best in slot, it's more of the same

[rocky aurora]

I haven't said that either

[coral crest]

I'm usually alternating between Xata's and Vial rush when I'm feeling bored

Because vial rush with dread mirror up is comical

[fierce lark]

vial rush being lavos' subsume is vile

[coral crest]

What would you pick?

[rocky aurora]

[fierce lark]

vial rush, because it's equally funny

[coral crest]

I'm kinda just wondering how you're not dealing enough dmg without nourish

Not really whether nourish is warranted or not

It's prob worth it for energy tap alone for ppl who can't handle the keyboard in kpm