builds-discussion

[fickle willow]

same not a fan of torid but if theres nothing better

what is glaxion good for then?

[mighty flare]

?

its like the easiest/quickest there is

[mighty flare]

good for crowds, can be okay single target
just not better than incarnons

[mossy juniper]

idk ill try again....

[violet silo]

two clicks?

[mossy juniper]

tbh never played with long

[unreal vessel]

Anybody got a good Braton build? Been enjoying the incarnon.

[violet silo]

crowds and status priming with debilitate now

[violet silo]

i'd bet ninjase does

[violet silo]

also energy if you like photon

anyways, I had a question. does gas work on the dual toxocyst and is it worth it over corrosive?

[mighty flare]

no

[steel granite]

is this a groll?

[fierce lark]

is toxin shards a meme build for acid shells or actually good for general use

[valid cargo]

Can this build work on the sampotes?

[mighty flare]

why would it be a meme

its fine for general use, except if like solely melee platforming

[fierce lark]

no idea, just a thing someone told me in the past, said person said to run strength shards instead

[mighty flare]

do not listen to that person lol

saryn herself doesnt even need high strength anyway

[fierce lark]

i believed in the green but i made the justification for them that + status damage technically kills trash slower than + strength

[mighty flare]

none of ur weapons are particularly good at trash clearing

[flat flame]

Jade eyes vs Nourish on Mesa

[mighty flare]

nourish

[flat flame]

I’m thinking about playing around a little with Mesa build cause I always run the same thing

[flat flame]

Aight

Gonna swap out roar

[fierce lark]

thats just what i had equipped for leveling

[river hearth]

friend randomly gifted me a panzer 4x4 imprint so i feel like i should build one, are these good builds for a priming/utility panzer?
(panzer) https://overframe.gg/build/936781/
(claws) https://overframe.gg/build/936804/

[mighty flare]

prepare for word vomit: https://overframe.gg/build/874366/panzer-claws/avg-dps-claw-setup/

[mighty flare]

did you run any numbers or? sure, if enemies die in 1-hit then status dps doesnt matter as much

[fierce lark]

nah, im pretty positive tox shards are gonna be the best dps shards available assuming a target lives long enough to take toxin ticks

but outside of sp endurance most things die in 1 trigger pull

[oblique dust]

decided to try a duplicate build, opinions?

[fierce lark]

toxic lash does have the other funny thing though of multiplying itself with % damage from toxin mods, on top of everything else

duplicate is awful is my thought

sorry

[oblique dust]

yea but i want to try something new 🙁

[violet silo]

no for 1 or 2

[fierce lark]

drop organ shatter and 60 heat for 60/60 viral if you aren't external viral

[grand osprey]

Working on strength based build for Uriel, a couple of mods to finish the upgrade

[oblique dust]

running a primer so no worries on that

[mighty flare]

no on gas

[violet silo]

but does it keep up frenzy?

[fierce lark]

would probably drop volcanic edge for primed reach then, but im a sucker for extremely long range melee

the status does very little anyway when you're getting 440% from ww

[indigo ore]

Did they nerf the kuva chakkhur?

[fierce lark]

also goes without saying but put tennokai in exilus

[indigo ore]

Mine sucks now and I didn’t chance the build

[tame comet]

realistically which should i be using right now?

[smoky egret]

For a beginner rhino build am I doing this correctly? I still have to add intensify but I'm just going off a build I seen on yt

[fierce lark]

i would drop the hp mod for intensify when you can

[midnight horizon]

What is this (cold elemental ward)

[fierce lark]

realistically you should have iron skin up 24/7, nothing in base starchart does that much damage

[fierce lark]

chroma’s 2

[midnight horizon]

Yeah but what does it mean

[fierce lark]

chroma's 2 is one of 4 buffs that he can cycle through and apply to himself and allies, the cold variant gives them armor and a reflective shield

[smoky egret]

Sounds good thank you

[mighty flare]

only if you hit enemy head, yes, that gas cloud will continue triggering frenxzy on that target, but its very inconsistent for other enemies walkng into the gas

[violet silo]

alr then

not worth it

[fierce lark]

you could also drop stretch (for now) and run intensify in its place, range isn't super important on rhino unless you're intending on being supportive

[mighty flare]

what weapon

[fierce lark]

if you plan on using rhino long term you should look into getting a reactor installed

[tame comet]

natark

[midnight horizon]

Yes I know all that. I'm sayin, what does the text I screenshotted specifically mean? Does it mean the cold from cold ward can proc from melee attacks in general?

[fierce lark]

no, it means that if you have any melee effects, projectiles reflected by the cold shield will trigger them

[mighty flare]

drop hellfire, piercing hit / galv scope
replace point strike for critical delay
slot a fire rate mod with elementalist/bane

[fierce lark]

such as the example listed, dual ichor incarnon's tox clouds

[midnight horizon]

Hmmm

Does xatas whisper trigger other elements or just void

[tame comet]

i dont have ciritcal delay

[mighty flare]

go get it

[midnight horizon]

I'm tryna build a gauss melee build using his thermal transfer to give cold to okina prime inc so that I can use it with melee careen (both its attacks and spectral daggers can freeze the enemy)

But I'm tryna find a good melee subsume for it

I guess everything leads back to wrathful

[tame comet]

where can i get it?

[fierce lark]

pretty good rule of thumb, if it's a melee build it probably wants WA

[midnight horizon]

It kinda sucks cuz this thing can already red crit without WA

And my current gauss build can't even give that much crit from WA it's only +214% crit

[fierce lark]

everything im reading says the felarx incarnon sucks, is this true

(the incarnon mode specifically)

[oblique dust]

i dont think it sucks necessarily, but people does tend to use it base form more

[clear crest]

right or left guys?

[midnight horizon]

Nah it's not

So can xatas whisper trigger cold

[fierce lark]

wym can it trigger cold

the 2nd hit is just a separate instance of void damage

[quasi jolt]

Why do people not use roar with hildryn? something like this i mean

[proud anchor]

Right

[fierce lark]

aegis gale does such absurd amounts of damage that it's not necessary, her top end gets more out of utility

personally i went with molt

[quasi jolt]

Yea I have another build with molt

And I guess you are right, its not needed per se. But IT IS more damage to go with roar

[fierce lark]

goes without saying

[eager charm]

Roar is genuinely not needed
If you want to run team support ppl usually get more use out of voracious or nourish

Wrathful and silence are my choices for casual play tho

Silence makes missions stress free and easy, no acolyte stuff, thrax cant go ghost, etc etc

[fierce lark]

wrathful advance hildryn? do you use her massive girth as a melee weapon

[eager charm]

It's an instant teleport that doesnt have inertia the same way molt does

[fierce lark]

fair

[eager charm]

Clears SP techrot exterm in about 80 seconds for example

[quasi jolt]

Something like this is Ok or do I go FULL strenght?

[midnight horizon]

Who knows

I'm just tryna proc cold faster

[fierce lark]

looks the same as mine except i have overextended instead of augur reach

[eager charm]

If you just want to speedrun missions:
Replace corrosive for enemy radar
Replace aviator for cunning drift
Replace boreal for overextended
Replace cont for transient

Only loses 5% str but gains a lot of range

[fierce lark]

big fan of 235 range hildryn

im not sure if there's a max range for balefire aoe

but at 235 with prime fulm it's like 30m

[quasi jolt]

7.56 vs 10.15

[eager charm]

Base range is 3m
Max range is 280%
Primed fulm is 1.44
3 x 2.8 x 1.44 = 12m

Range is still insanely good on hildryn because it scales pillage, her 4 aoe cc, and balefire has 0 falloff and no los soooo

I run 280% or 250% on all my builds

Just too good

[fierce lark]

yeah that

[quasi jolt]

250 range is 10.5

[fierce lark]

i have aviator over cunning purely for the sake of extra DR helping me not randomly lose all of my shield

[eager charm]

Joining EDA/ETA and nothing without overguard in 40m being able to move feels great

[quasi jolt]

I feel like aviator is beter than 0.4 more range with balefire

[fierce lark]

im still mulling adaptation vs boreal

think ive settled on boreal

[eager charm]

Why use either? Hildryn doesnt take damage in base steel path

[fierce lark]

it's the only thing that fits the polarity that actually adds anything

[eager charm]

Overextended and parkour velocity in exilus might be a good compromise

Her dashes are pretty fast with amalgam barrel diffusion

[fierce lark]

actuall

i guess i could add another v polarity and move the vazarin to exilus for aviator

and add transient

[midnight horizon]

Does arcane concentration just straight up give +60% ability duration

[quasi jolt]

not on the "first" cast

[fierce lark]

the ability that triggers it doesn't get the duration

[midnight horizon]

Eh it's gauss anyway so

I can just mach rush first then ult

[fierce lark]

as long as you remember to press 1 or 3 before you redline

it's amazing

i suppose if you don't want to bug abuse, you can drop aegis for it and run 2 duration arcanes

im gaussing

[midnight horizon]

Yeah I'm kinda against abusing bugs that might render the warframe completely unplayable when it gets patched up

Gauss relies too much on aegis

[fierce lark]

i promise gauss is plenty playable without the bug

[eager charm]

Rly smart, nice
I was thinking abt using it for protea but that's a good idea too

[midnight horizon]

Definitely. I just need to pretend that bugs like cata shields and aegis don't exist

[fierce lark]

god please never patch catagate

[eager charm]

One other hildryn specific tech I can share is Mystic Bond
It will allow infinite casts of pillage at 0 energy until you use a subsumed ability, and something like a Raksa Kubrow will have it up every 15 ish seconds

Being able to cast pillage at 0 shields is insanely nice for higher level stuff/bad situations

[midnight horizon]

Guys did i place the arcanes correctly? Uriel btw

[eager charm]

Top and bottom order doesnt matter

[midnight horizon]

Wait fr? Lol i thought they had specific meaning, thanks

[quasi jolt]

Is this Ok then? that empty slot is for mystic bond when I get it

raksa kubrow btw

I just noticed i'm missing retriever lol

[eager charm]

Hastened deflection isnt super needed because pillage will refill the dog's shields too but not bad to keep

Heres my raksa(retriever over seismic for voracious)

You could use mecha mods but hildryn usually kills stuff before it gets status anyways lol...

[swift jay]

I think I've got my mesa prime sorted but as for her regulators im unsure as to what the last two mods should be, I've heard putting anything that changes heat to radiation or gas does not proc arcane hot shot. Any suggestions would be appreciated c:

[fierce lark]

my only functional companion rn is panzer

and "functional" is loosely defined because i still dont even have the claw mods filled out lol

[eager charm]

Tox + cold will make viral heat, very useful combo if you're not using nourish

[eager charm]

Panzer is fine for mystic bond since viral quills counts I think

But Raksa is the bis for hildryn, the dog almost keeps her shields up by itself lol

[swift jay]

I'm using nourish as her subsume I appreciate that though :)

[eager charm]

Tox + elec for corrosive can be good too

I use tox elec heat with nourish mesa too

[fierce lark]

still trying to figure out the felarx

[quasi jolt]

yea protect also adds the pet shield regen to hildryn

[swift jay]

I think I put my mods in the wrong slot I was using jolt + pistol pestilence but they were removing heat but I believe I've fixed that issue thank you c:

[eager charm]

Just stacking the biggest multipliers you can
Galv savvy, galv chamber, fire rate, primed elementals(can make corrosive cold or viral elec), then your choice of primed ammo stock(if you use holster reload) or primed tactical pump if u reload manually
Felarx is VERY expensive to build if you have the primed mods tho, it barely fits

https://overframe.gg/build/328134/felarx/the-devastating-void-extreme-raw-damage-cold-corrosive-one-shot/

8 forma 🥹

[eager charm]

Only the regen rate tho, and shields dont regen while hildryn is in 4 anyways

[fierce lark]

yeah i saw the build use primed ammo stock and im like tf, it's an incarnon weapon lol

apparently the incarnon sucks?

[quasi jolt]

GN and thanks for the help everyone!

[eager charm]

It's a bit of a mode switch, it reduces the max dps in exchange for range and a 40 round mag

Incarnoff is generally what people use felarx for

[fierce lark]

guess i'll throw 8 forma at it for the purpose of throwing 8 forma at it

lol

[eager charm]

With the removal of damage attenuation from a lot of enemies, negative crit weapons like felarx and phenmor have become way stronger, so it's not like it'll be bad

There is practically nothing in this game that will survive a full tube from a properly modded Felarx at point blank

[fast cairn]

Trying to take my Octavia to Steel Path levels, is the optimal damage to have notes on every available or is there an optimal ratio of empty to filled for mallet/resonator

[hot stirrup]

does anyone know if this would be worth anything?

[eager charm]

You can spam notes but the only downside is that cc-vulnerable enemies will be staggered at the edge of mallet's range
If you space out mallet, you don't lose any dps and give melee enemies time to actually run up and smack the mallet to increase its damage

[fast cairn]

that's why I was wondering if there was an established meta ratio or if it's just preference

I know it gets real problematic for infested to hit it sometimes at max notes for example

[open iron]

anyone got a build for volt melee?

[eager charm]

Well the only other trick is to mute it so that allies dont get ear blasted but that's just common courtesy lol

[fast cairn]

i do that already i'm not a monster lmao

[cerulean latch]

Image 1 In the first image is a mr L1 (legendary 1 build) image 2 in the second build is a mr 16 build, the second one is mine and the legendary 1 said i was bad at build making but i want your guys’s opinion which is better, mine or his

[midnight horizon]

Chat I'm using both kinetic plating and cata shields, just in case kinetic starts failing me in higher levels I'd still have another layer of protection

Is that a good idea

[mighty flare]

just do aegis strat

[midnight horizon]

Nu uh

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill-2-james-sunderland-james-mary-gif-1525890460016201832

But anyway mach rush spams still give shields right, via augur mods

[eager charm]

Hard to make out, but keep in mind that basically every gun uses some variation of this template:
Base damage(serration)
Multishot(split chamber)
Crit chance(point strike, crit delay)
Crit damage(vital sense)
Elements(viral heat for high fire rate, corrosive or blast elec for single hits)
Fire rate/reload speed/any thing gun-specific

[junior fable]

Need help with valkyr build

I want to be better tanker deadly

I m mastery 8

[latent latch]

What is a good build for solo oberon?

[acoustic nest]

why my amp suck

[midnight horizon]

Typical melee influence

[dire flint]

What’s a good helminth ability for Wisp’s 4th?

[midnight horizon]

As in, to buff 4 or to replace 4

[lavish orbit]

For wisp 4th roar basically

[dire flint]

To replace Sol gate

[lavish orbit]

Ah not really roar then

[dire flint]

I’ve been just messing with different abilities to see what works lol

[lavish orbit]

I thought to buff 4th

[dire flint]

Currently using Xata’s whisper

[lavish orbit]

If you kick 4th she automatically become wp or support, so smthng that buffs weaps and/or allies would be good

[outer mauve]

Would an ivara prime build with empowered quiver and infiltrate and concentrated arrow together be good? Wanna focus on invisibility and her exalted bow

[dire flint]

I did use Dispensary at one point

[lavish orbit]

Empowered is an automatic yes, infiltrate not so much besides spy missions, and I personaly not like concentrated, explosive status has its own does more damage than concentrated aoe

[lavish orbit]

Yes, I use that or nourish to replace her 4th

Actually dispensary is less useful with number of uriel in missions

[dire flint]

Plus my wisp has archon stretch with Diriga

[outer mauve]

Was thinking concentrated cause it'll allow me to fire 1 arrow instead of multiple

[dire flint]

I’m also working on my Nova, trying to figure out if I really need Blind rage

[elder mesa]

Has anyone got a steel path ignis wraith build that is good for higher levels and shredding through enemy's? Ive been tryna get back into using it

[lavish orbit]

Wisp doesn't need diriga to archon stretch, her blue mites is already doing electric damage 😁, for Nova I can't answer, I don't know her limits for DR or her ability 👀

[dire flint]

Fair

I was using Diriga just for random reasons lol

Isn’t there a mod for beast companions that help with energy too?

[midnight horizon]

Mostly synth deconstruct if it's on diriga

Oh wait you said beast

Uuhhhhhh

Ngl I don't use beasts much

[lavish orbit]

If you go acuity it can do high damage but still only on one enemy, the explosion aoe is really weak on steelpath, not using concentrated will make you shoot a lot of arrow, not charged shot is vertical, on one enemy its a lot of status which can make you put a lot more of status for example :3

[lavish orbit]

Theres a bound mod from fortuna iirc that make one ability not use energy after several use of companion ability

[midnight horizon]

Mystic bond

I use it on diriga unironically

Should work on beasts too. But it's inconsistent, not all companion abilities count

[mighty flare]

read description for crit stuff
https://overframe.gg/build/931685/ignis-wraith/ignis-wraith-viral-heat/

[elder mesa]

Is this okay without the bane mod

[open iron]

whats wrong with it

[midnight horizon]

Nothing wrong

[vague rock]

Does anyone have a good build for the cerata

[mighty flare]

severely weaker but itll work depending on external buffs

[elder mesa]

Just tested it really happy with this build , I have a riven for ignis wraith what would you recommend i roll it for this build , and also ive swapped bane out for amalgam serration

[mighty flare]

riven dispo a bit low so most success is element/fire rate rolls to open up mod slots for other mods

[elder mesa]

Okayy so mostly roll for heat ? What about crit chance or crit dmg roll?

[mighty flare]

no it would be like viral, crit rolls on low dispo don't really work and aren't strong enough to be better than other mods

[elder mesa]

Thats fair thank you so mainly viral and heat and if I can status chance or status damage ?

[mighty flare]

just viral would be enough, cant roll status dmg and no point in rolling status chance

[elder mesa]

Okayy i see Thank you for the help dude I put down the ignis for so long cus I couldn't find a good build to compete with my other weapons

[fierce lark]

in all fairness it's pretty terrible compared to a lot of more modern weapons

[late bronze]

Trying to do the new missions but my build just ain't cutting it for bosses and just tickles their shields and HP every time

[zealous rapids]

what weapon is that?

[late bronze]

Oh right forgot sorry
Braton prime

[zealous rapids]

also, you should check what school buff you getting and plan around that

for example I use zenurik and have a huge increase in ability str by the time it's boss fight, I get 200%+ roar buff and 700%+ shock trooper buff (playing volt), it practically melt the boss

I use laetum tho

[late bronze]

Using Zenurik

[zealous rapids]

in perita if you plan around focus school buff properly, you can get very strong

so, you should focus on what abilities you can use to buff your weapon into infinity

like, there is other mods like shock trooper for volt that infuse your weapon with some element

if you play mirage, eclipse can give some funny amount of damage

or you can change focus school you use for perita

[late bronze]

Only have Zanurik available

[zealous rapids]

don't perita allows you to use any school, even unlocking tauron strike temporarily for the mission

[sacred nexus]

in general, which is better? Anemic Agility or Lethal Torrent?

[rancid mirage]

prob lethal unless you are doing acurity

[plain moss]

what's the best way to heal as persistence umbra? using warcry for armor so preferably a weapon or other arcane, i was thinking either arcane grace or molt reconstruct blind rage with hunter adrenaline to make up the difference in energy

[rancid mirage]

I think easiest that I can think of is arcane reaper besides getting hp orbs from synth decon

also armor from reaper should make the arcane persistence requirement so war cry can be freed

[zealous rapids]

not easiest, but there is operator arcanes that can heal you on transference, or when using void mode

[plain moss]

got it ty

[carmine dew]

amalgam daikyu target acquired 🥰

(doesnt work on exalted but does work on skiajati)

[zealous rapids]

I prefer syam

[rancid mirage]

do you have turn off excal sword on and off to heal?

[carmine dew]

yeah, lol

it doesnt work on the exalted cus its not considered a nikana class weapon

[rancid mirage]

right

[zealous rapids]

another way is hema, coda hema

you heal from headshots

[rancid mirage]

or coda hirudo

[zealous rapids]

that's melee again, have to turn exalted blade off

[rancid mirage]

true

[carmine dew]

seriously, you can use the voruna subsume

[zealous rapids]

or uriel subsume

[rancid mirage]

or even the citrine subsume

[zealous rapids]

I use citrine one a lot for arcane blessing builds

[rancid mirage]

but I still think arcane reaper is prob the best

[karmic onyx]

hello, I just got done crafting Uriel and been loving him. i doubt its possible but i've been trying to make his 1st ability be able the only thing i gotta use to kill. I subsumed ophanim eyes over his 4 to use it as a toggle ability for some extra damage and some defense reduc. do yall think its possible to build this sole ability to be really really strong or just gotta accept reality. (i still have to forma him properly)

any specific mods or subsumes that come to mind that could potentially boost this ability

[zealous rapids]

tbh I use this one as extra mobility, not for damage

idk anything beside archon vitality you already have

[rancid mirage]

Are you planning to use him as like melee? it looks like he has no range and tons of duration and str

[near vortex]

I wish there was a precision Intensify for 3rd abilities

put it on Uriel and subsume Roar onto 3 for a Sobek platform build

The Saryn thing

[zealous rapids]

probably planning to use him as pierce to kill missile man

[karmic onyx]

^^

[rancid mirage]

yea I didn’t realize it was meme build

[karmic onyx]

a great change would be if percision intensify could be bound to a specific skill

just increase the mods capacity cost to balance it or whatever

[zealous rapids]

prec.intensify for original roar or eclipse will be hilarious

[karmic onyx]

maybe an augment in the future could help i guess

[rancid mirage]

oh I js realize I am not using precision intensify on frames w good 4th..

[karmic onyx]

the dream might be dead until then

[scenic sail]

What could I improve?
Right now the damage is great, but I'm struggling with survivability.

• Crimson (+25% Melee Critical Damage)
• Crimson Tauforged (15% +Ability Strength) x3
• Azure Tauforged (+75 Energy Max)

[midnight horizon]

My health tank saryn build be relying solely on this one mod

[zealous rapids]

in my build I put everything into range, and subsume blood altar over 2, this way I can either constantly move from target to target with land slide (which will make you invul) or make a sandbag and hit it to kill mobs around (usually need to aim slightly up when hitting it with land slide)

[timber radish]

Hi please I need some help for the survivability, any tips please ? For the arcane I have arcane barrier and velocity

Archon shard 3 orange
One purple ( equilibrium)
One blue for energy

[lavish orbit]

Basically you can go shieldgating

• rolling guard, shield recharge + aegis,
  There is arcane secondary fortifier that is really good with her (steal overguard),
  Arcane circumvent is fun with mesa's waltz and rolling guard (steal enemies defenses),
  And sometimes I go to helminth :
• Pillage, Omikuji, etc.
  Fun fact : Evade works when you fight 1999 infested

[timber radish]

Thanks I will try it out It's especially for the new rebellion mod

Can't solo the frames on the final fight

[lavish orbit]

Try Vazarin also to get invulnerability while void slinging in your frame :)

[timber radish]

Thank you for your help ❤️

[sacred nexus]

what would make a melee weapon good for/compatible with a melee influence build?

[fierce lark]

the ability to mod electric on it

[versed harbor]

fr

[young terrace]

Question, if I were to use two arcanes for Excalibur Umbra, would reaper and persistence be ideal?

[fierce lark]

persistence is only real if you're trying to go steel path endurance

you won't take more than 500 damage per second most of the time

[young terrace]

Yeah I play sp regularly

Just wondering that with the arcane reaper and 2 umbra mods makes it worth or not

[fierce lark]

when i say steel path endurance i mean like hour+ long missions

where enemies scale into the thousands

[young terrace]

Does circuit count?

Cause I did hit 2k lvl there

[fierce lark]

of course

[coral crest]

It doesn't really come online until you hit about lvl1000, true

Yeah circuit definitely counts

[fierce lark]

i did a 70 minute conjunction survival the other day and i think enemies were still only level 200 lol im not sure what's up with lua scaling

[coral crest]

Isn't it normal scaling?

It's just cascade, flood and disruption (the other two to a lesser extent) being special

[fierce lark]

maybe normal scaling is just really slow, i usually only do long cascades or circuit

[coral crest]

Yeah it's normal scaling

[fierce lark]

shoutouts to normal circuit, has very weird scaling

i think it outpaces sp circuit at some point

[coral crest]

Since cascade, flood, circuit and disruption are all objective based and your speed is the only determining factor, I can see why they would crank up the enemy scaling

To balance that out

[gusty grove]

a riddle for you (don't look this up, just guess): a tenet glaxion has innate cold damage. we pick heat progen and add a single electric mod. what elemental combos do we get?

[coral crest]

cold electric(mag) first

[fierce lark]

pretty sure you get mag

[coral crest]

Progenitor is the last in any equation afaik

[gusty grove]

🙂

[coral crest]

Oh

[fierce lark]

smile

[coral crest]

Funny

[gusty grove]

what if we switch to toxin progen?

[fierce lark]

oh wait no i remember

there's some weird ordering thing that prioritizes certain elements when combining, when you have a progen and an innate

i remember reading that somewhere lol

[gusty grove]

weird doesn't even begin to describe it.

this is utterly confusing

is defies reason

[fierce lark]

HCET

[coral crest]

The real eldritch horror in this game has always been math

[fierce lark]

https://youtu.be/74LM3QPOkOw?si=IqIdi6ysMH6_Ph6r

can we just have a crit felarx build please i dont wanna spend 8 forma on it

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[coral crest]

You WILL roll negative crit riven

[hoary roost]

is it possible to use your archgun as an arcane statstick

[coral crest]

Only for combo duration iirc

Bulwark used to work but they patched it quickly

[hoary roost]

unfortunate

[mellow palm]

Does summoner's wraith work with Uriel's demons?

[fierce lark]

i don't see why not

probably not very good though, i dont think uriel's demons actually do that much damage?

[mellow palm]

I did try to use it, but i don't see any damage increase

I will stick to corrosive projection then

[languid marten]

Not sure if this is the right place, but is the dragon nikana worth crafting if I already have the skiajati?

Should I just craft it as mastery fodder?

[coral crest]

Mastery fodder

It's just an upgrade of the normal nikana

[hoary roost]

i remember when dragon nikana was considered goated

unc...

[coral crest]

The fancy umbra sword pushed it out

The future is now old man

[zealous rapids]

I just tested something, and it seems archon intensify activates when you heal your summons, not only yourself, so using that instead of umbra will give more strength

[fierce lark]

it seems like none of his abilities actually apply heat status, so hotshot is really only coming from his 4

[coral crest]

His 1

[fierce lark]

i was dashing through enemies with his 1 and not getting any hotshot stacks

[coral crest]

Huh, it lists guaranteed heat status

Well I was talking about it buffing pets anyway

1 also gives them heat

[fierce lark]

yeah im like

trying to figure out if im just supposed to be spamming 3 more or maybe build more duration or something idk

1 is supposed to apply heat status to nearby enemies, maybe it's bugged

[velvet pulsar]

Daikyu, Furis, Sepfahn zaw, Panzer Vulpaphyla

https://youtu.be/cTL4Aa2z1BA?si=jE1mPAzqNCppejO9

[old marsh]

throw in Paris Prime and Sancti Magistar and we got a healing trifecta

[velvet pulsar]

Oh right forgot about Paris
But definitely not sancti Magistar
That's slow.

[old marsh]

[coral crest]

Why sancti magistar if you can use Hirudo

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[coral crest]

Its consistent heal on crit

And it has a coda variant

[velvet pulsar]

Good call.

Haven't bought it yet though.

[fierce lark]

coda hirudo is funny

and by funny i mean it's completely unremarkable influence slop

[velvet pulsar]

Once I get that, I'll replace daikyu with coda hema

[fierce lark]

but actually it is funny because it can be your source of healing for persistence nonsense

[velvet pulsar]

It's more than that

Healing
Max health increment
Movement speed boost

[coral crest]

And sparring weapons have cool skins

[sonic tide]

Any fun weapons to run with uriel?

[velvet pulsar]

Furis augment also increases max health

[velvet pulsar]

Anything u don't need to aim
Anything taking good advantage of that heat bonus
Probably even snipers if his version of Collective Curse works similar to kullervo

(u can ignore point 1 if u have Aero Vantage mod)

[coral crest]

It does, that's why vinquibus is a single target rifle

[velvet pulsar]

I mean collective curse builds sniper combo

[coral crest]

Ah

[velvet pulsar]

It could be highly possible they reused it completely from kullervo

[sonic tide]

I've been using the coda bassocyst so far which works great against and is fun against large crowds of sp enemies, but when it comes to the bosses in the new content it just doesn't do much, maybe I need to adjust its mods

[velvet pulsar]

Oh right does anyone feel like the 2 SP bosses got more difficult after yesterday's hotfix?

(hunhu & dacto)

[zealous rapids]

no, they still die pretty fast

especially hunhu

[velvet pulsar]

IDK
Suddenly it feels like my Toxocyst isn't doing as much as it was against them before the hotfix

[hoary roost]

honestly feel like their health should be increased

[velvet pulsar]

...or maybe because I've been using madurai's 25% bonus so it felt so easier

So I guess that was a multiplicative dmg boost

Coz I'm using zenurik now

[coral crest]

Garuda can use 1 on Hunhullus

They have no ability immunity

Any sort of scaling dmg melts them

Sevagoth can oneshot the Vanguards...

Smite works too

[velvet pulsar]

Vanguards make sense
Those 2 I didn't realize

[carmine lintel]

can anyone here think of a gunplatform frame that continiously drains energy to trigger duplex bond

[hoary roost]

yeah, been using saryn with roar and it just decimates em

[zealous rapids]

that is the reason, school bonus make a big difference

[coral crest]

Yeah they just said "whatever" and made all of the new bosses not immune to abilities

That's new tbh

[zealous rapids]

I use zenurik, but I use it with shock trooper (~700% with 10 orders) and roar (~200%)

[quiet laurel]

At least they just have lots of health now instead of dmg attenuation

[velvet pulsar]

Oraxia subsume spam and fire guns

[fierce lark]

oh jfc, i think i see what's happening with uriel and hotshot

1 torpedo will proc stacks of cascadia flare, but not arcane hotshot

which makes me think hotshot can't proc while you're dodging

what spaghetti is causing that to happen idk

[velvet pulsar]

Or maybe it counts as bullet jump kills rather than ability kills

[zealous rapids]

you become projectile

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe we finally have bullet jump lvl cap

[fierce lark]

hotshot isn't off of kills, it's just any time you proc heat status with an ability

[coral crest]

The moment garuda can use 1 on Fragmented One I'll be able to die in peace

[fierce lark]

but yeah maybe it's counting as not an ability, though it's not a bullet jump so idk

[velvet pulsar]

Same logic though
Bullet jump hits ≠ ability hits

[quiet laurel]

Fragmented one will stay a pos I fear

[velvet pulsar]

Fragmented one shot

Lore accurate Garuda Kamehameha

[fierce lark]

yeah i guess uriel's flight is coded as a bullet jump

because it's affected by parkour velocity

[coral crest]

More of a spirit ball

[fierce lark]

actually i have a very funny way to test this

[velvet pulsar]

U might've heard of "super jump"...
But have u heard about "super bullet jump"?

[fierce lark]

okay so no, it's not counted as a bullet jump, because it doesn't proc the bullet jump exilus damage things

moreover, when i went into a random exterminate solo, torpedoing around with 1 was giving me hotshot stacks

so it's another god damn client vs host issue

(probably)

[zealous rapids]

did you have cascadia flare? maybe one arcane overrides other?

[velvet pulsar]

Then it's either a simulacrum bug or failed client scenario

[fierce lark]

i dont even have simulacrum, this was just in a random perita mp mission

[hoary roost]

made a funny boom cannon kuva chakkhurr. +150 dmg and crit chance riven, gets crit up to 200%
primary overcharge with 700 energy saryn
max out multishot with split chamber and vig arm
cannonade

then use saryn as weapons platform with roar, venom dose, toxic lash

needless to say - big damage

[grand basalt]

Are these good archon shards on my harrow should I switch them out for anything else?

[coral crest]

whats the weapon named TIYBOC

[grand basalt]

Catchmoon kitgun

[old marsh]

next time just take a SS like this. but ye, shards r fine

[grand basalt]

Oh ok

Thanks

[fierce lark]

think i did 2 cast speed 3 duration

[fresh surge]

i find max shields redundant bc of the passive

[wooden seal]

magistar riven k/r ?

[old marsh]

those r not for that. its for the shield gate duration. which caps out at 1100 max shields (overshields do not influence your shield gate duration) as i recall. u can get there by using 1 tau and 1 normal blue but i figured i might as well keep 1 slot open for future.

[fresh surge]

overshields DO influence your shield gate duration

[old marsh]

sure

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[fresh surge]

i'm 99% sure it's bugged and works

shouldn't but does

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-sure-john-candy-ok-gif-15377612

[fresh surge]

yup it's bugged

[fresh surge]

i got 2.5 second of shield gate on grendel so i was right

[dusty summit]

is influence how I should build Vinquibus?

[fast marsh]

Anyone have a build for Magistar Incarnon by any chance

[old marsh]

u mean the evolutions? or the mods?

[fast marsh]

Both

[old marsh]

for riven slot u can put in corrupt charge (so it combines with Magistar's 1st evo to give u 3 extra combo counters). and u can also use Melee Careen if u want. basically u roll first and then slam the target to get even more dmg

[fast marsh]

Oooo tyvm

[hoary roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHIzRxA4hxM

what the flim flam

[coral crest]

It's always zephyr

[late bramble]

Anyone got a good mutalist cernos build? I dont really know what im doing when modding status based weapons

[hoary roost]

random esotericist warframe youtuber dropping arcane knowledge

look inside
zephyr

[coral crest]

Its zephyr in 7/10 cases

The other 3 are Cyte-09

[timid dust]

good sp cap build for protea?

with archon shards recommendations?

[quasi sun]

is primary bulawrk a boost for all weapons or just the one its in its pretty vague and just says weapon damage

[acoustic bluff]

Has anybody in this channel tried the Sagek Prime in Level cap, specifcally. Void cascade as in, the Tuvul Commons?

[velvet pulsar]

It used to boost all weapons
But after yesterday's hotfix it only works on the weapon u equip

[quasi sun]

ahhhh dammit

[pseudo lodge]

Should I use arcane rage, multi efficiency, or whatever the secondary version of arcane rage is?

[acoustic bluff]

For what

[pseudo lodge]

Harrow sorry XP

[acoustic bluff]

delete this twin

[hoary roost]

twin is gatekeeping arcane knowledge

[pseudo lodge]

I’m using an evade build in both my primary and my secondary are good

[pseudo lodge]

Coda hema and dual toxis

[acoustic bluff]

leaking big methods

[acoustic bluff]

Use whatever arcane for what youre using the most

rage or precision

or acceleration/Velocity

[timid dust]

?

[proud anchor]

https://overframe.gg/build/668062/protea-prime/the-blazing-lotus-general-use-temporal-anchor-protea-non-helminth-and-variants/

[charred willow]

which one for a bounce build falcor?

[timid dust]

what would be a good fulmin riven? What stats?

[karmic badger]

i wonder if i should swap crit delay for shred...

[twin sail]

my current excal unmbra build
as it stands I can reasonably survive a conjunction survival on steel path
also gloom subsumed over my 2, may move to my 3

[karmic badger]

no melee adapter

[twin sail]

yeaaaaaah-

[karmic badger]

electric fart build is sadgely the most effective for melees...

especially since exalted blade can off load one of the elements

[twin sail]

yea ik

chromatic blade goes crazy

[pure idol]

For a Volatile Quick Return build, is Xoris or Falcor better?

[eager charm]

Xoris has bigger blast radius, Falcor has homing, it's up to you

[broken thorn]

is primed point black better or crit decel

[pseudo lodge]

opinions

[broken thorn]

personally u dont need rolling guard and blind rage

wait does lasting covenant increase for ab strength

[pseudo lodge]

I use it so I can keep both my four and evade up at the same time

[timid dust]

yeah but what if i have replaced temporal anchor for roar?

[noble depot]

can I improve?

[proud anchor]

Replace temporal erosion augment with precision intensify

[timid dust]

ty

[livid girder]

Should I run
172 dura 199 range 218 strength or
97 dura 265 range 218 strength
For Caliban?

[severe bough]

Subsume evade over 3

Keep rolling

[raven fulcrum]

opinions on this riven?

[remote crow]

What shards to people run on wisp

[analog stirrup]

Usualy power reds and a couple yellows for cast speed and parkour... But you can run watever you like realy... Melee crit purples, full parkour yellow... Up to what you want to do.

[austere hamlet]

sampotes my beloved

[old marsh]

Depends on the build & weapons. What weapons do u wanna use with her? What build r u focusing on

[torpid dawn]

Is this fine for koumei? I couldn't find a lot in my inventory that looked great to put on

and weapons I haven't fixed yet since they're low level

grinding mr

[deep grotto]

That does sound neat
Do people really care about slash procs on boar…? Hnm

[raven fulcrum]

i can always get slash from hunter munitions right?

[deep grotto]

If you want I suppose

[raven fulcrum]

current build btw, working on getting the incarnon modes done

[hybrid path]

Need me a op Uriel build

[raven fulcrum]

5 tau parkour velocity :)

[drowsy pelican]

Rate the build

[hybrid path]

Huh?

[drowsy pelican]

I put on the arcane persistence, so I didn’t have to worry about shield dating before rage activates

[hybrid path]

I don't have the shards segment 😐

Not yet

[raven fulcrum]

personally invested way more into strength for 4 cuz you heal so much you dont need shields. what are your shards looking like?

[raven fulcrum]

ah, no worries im just memeing around cuz i like my parkourspeed

[drowsy pelican]

Don’t even have the segment unlocked

I did the Vail breaker quest , but I never touched khal after that

[raven fulcrum]

this is my build incase you wanted some inspiration, does well against high level enemies too

[drowsy pelican]

I used to have about 215% ability strength with arcane bellicose that I removed it for arcane persistence

[raven fulcrum]

ah yeah dont have persistence yet, looks good tho

i think you do want to aim for 1400 armor when using persistence for when you get hit with a heat status, lowering your armor by 50% and disabling the arcane

[mossy juniper]

time to build a sayrn for weapon damage

[mellow palm]

Are you trying to play Uriel or flying a Jet in a tight corridor?

Lmao

[livid girder]

Should I run
172 dura 199 range 218 strength or
97 dura 265 range 218 strength
For Caliban? I have r5 molt augmented and r4 arcane camisado for him too

[weary willow]

Dunno if these are good or even half-way decent Vinquibus builds
pls turn me to the right direction if ever

[raven fulcrum]

i like speed so i have multiple frames with 5 tua yellow parkour speed shards :)

my titania is also a speed demon

[mellow palm]

Does uriel have a cap on spinning speed?

[raven fulcrum]

no clue havent unlocked him yet, just know that he has some scaling with parkour velocity

[mellow palm]

If not, i will try to shove as much parkour velocity and dodge speed as possible to achieve more than gus prim speed

Lmao

Meme build

[raven fulcrum]

you always need atleast one of those

[mellow palm]

I wanna see how fast he can get in open world

Too much and he may end up just like gauss

But flying

I kinda want the spin does like an AoE after hitting the ground

It makes sense

[old marsh]

https://youtube.com/shorts/46Q4uyZtSxM?si=wBa7TuB_krXPQB7l

hope this answers your question

[mellow palm]

Thank you

You have sastisfied my own curiosity

I was expecting him to go way faster with all of that parkour velocity

[mossy juniper]

i was laughing hard

[mellow palm]

He would be a rocket if he flies, hits the wall then explode but he's not

[mossy juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/plane-crash-accident-explosion-gif-16898298

[sly estuary]

Hey guys, i just tried making my first build without a guide, I'm looking for any recommendations when it comes to what put in as the last mod on Xaku here, tried to go to 280% range and 164% stength + corrosive to have 100% armor strip with gaze, no idea what I should put into the last slot though

I was considering primed flow or rolling guard, but maybe someone has another recommendation?

[eager charm]

If you dont have cast speed archon shards installed, you could consider natural talent to speed up the recasts of 4? Looks good tho, almost the same as mine except transient over blind rage

[sly estuary]

I have a tauforged for casting speed, 2 tauforged for duration and 1 tauforged and 1 normal one for strength

[eager charm]

Primed flow may be a better slot tho since 4 is expensive

[sly estuary]

Gotcha, will go with flow for now, was also considering the augment for 4, but yeah, the energy is a bit problematic sometimes as far as I've noticed even with energize

ty a lot :)

[eager charm]

Switching a shard from duration to strength could let you replace augur secrets with the 4 augment too

Still 166% strength I think

[sly estuary]

oh yeah, will definitely do that if that's the case

[pure gate]

Would Rolling guard, Catalysing shields and Arcane aegis r5 be good enough survivability at any level. Im running it on nezha and my 3 seems great as well

[ruby thistle]

you need fast deflection and vigilante vigor or augur mods and brief respite

[old moth]

I think Arcane aegis is counterintuitive if your running catalysing but thats just my opinion.

[pure gate]

Should I run Arcane aegis with recharge mods and rolling guard then?

[ruby thistle]

thats what I run on my mirage and I can take it to level cap

you can never have too much survivability if you plan on going to level cap

[eager charm]

Not rly, getting hit during shieldgate can trigger aegis

[old moth]

Didn't know that I always used Aegis on Frames like Hildryn or Harrow who have huge Shield caps so running it on Cata feels wrong IG but I see your point

@pure gate What Content are you planning on using your Nezha for?

[rancid mirage]

and aegis doesn’t need to be r5 for s gating so its budget friendly while being automatic

[pure gate]

Honestly, I take him everywhere but Im js asking cuz of void cascade

I want to try pyro technics with Archimedia to see how he goes solo but ive been rocking slam nezha

[old moth]

Are you running Divine Retibution?

[pure gate]

Ye

[weak sonnet]

any advice for better efficiency

[ruby thistle]

luckily its really easy to get an r5 from the event

"event"

[rancid mirage]

yup, finally gonna get r5 arcane avenger and energize

[ruby thistle]

same :3 and it's running for so long which is great

[old moth]

I'm not currently In game but this is what I run on my Nezha and I'm able to live SP Zariman

[rancid mirage]

I lowk js slap fire rate arcane and molt augmented or aegis and call it a day tbh

[old moth]

I put Aegis on here because of what hylja said

[old moth]

Your better off running the base Vitality Intensify and Fiber if your Umbrals aren't maxed or atleast at rank 9

[rancid mirage]

wouldn’t fast deflection or other augur mod be better? I never really understood the point of catalyzing shield, the locked 1.3 sec gating time doesn’t feel much

[old moth]

You can run those 2 I just put more effort into spears

[weak sonnet]

but i get the same % and more from intensify if i use the umbral and they cost less capacity

[old moth]

They cost less? interesting

[weak sonnet]

the only one that cost less is intensify if i use one of the polarity slots but i have other stuff in them

fiber would cost 14 and give me 100% but umbral gives me 99% and costs 11

[old moth]

Maybe its because Umbral at rank 9 or max is just so much more pricy

@weak sonnet Let me go forma my Valkyr RQ and I'll show you what I use

[winged yew]

I realise possibly a stupid question, but for Temple, you got Lizzie like 99% of mission, so what would I even use as a primary, cause I am drawing a blank on things that give passive benifit outside Afentis

[boreal sandal]

Do heavy attack crit chance dont show the doubled number on arsenal or do glaive heavy attack not get the bonus? My riven have 203.5% and sac. Steel give 250%. Both double when heavy.

[median heron]

Doesnt show

[pseudo lodge]

what stats does uriel want?

[mighty flare]

strength, then range & duration

[pseudo lodge]

ty

[oblique dust]

Is weak point damage on primary acuity additive or multiplicative with damage mods like serration

[drifting hare]

how do i make this build better?

[remote bay]

what shards should I be running on gyre prime?

[pseudo lodge]

BURPLE

[hoary pawn]

is this a good gara build? any advice so i can have good survivability + high dps

[mighty flare]

just maxing out your mods and getting arcane concentration over molt efficiency

[drifting hare]

Ight where do I farm it tho?

[celest otter]

Someone just told me primary charger doesn't work with kullervos 1st ability im confused can someone clarify for me lol

[mighty flare]

new perita rebellions missions or triad store

[drifting hare]

Where do I go to both?

[mighty flare]

play the new old peace mission

[drifting hare]

Oh alr then thanks

[tardy thicket]

Is the energy gained from rage and hunter adrenaline dependent on the damage before or after mitigation?

[proud anchor]

After

[somber ledge]

How's my zero forma build

For uriel

[pseudo lodge]

i never concideard archon intece

[wild rune]

most recent hotfix allowed AIntensify to proc off healing his demons

[somber ledge]

Which is goated

[wild rune]

and caster Uriel heals his demons A LOT because of Demonium spam

[somber ledge]

I am planning a mix of weapons platformer and caster

[wild rune]

I mostly have full caster, but I also use Arcane Hot Shot just to add a little weapon oomph if I need to snipe a high-priority target

Demonium isn't exactly the greatest single-target damage

[somber ledge]

I got the bundle (yes because of the operator fashion, yes because all I had was void shell and that's bland as hell) so I will be using the bayonet

[wild rune]

considering AIntensify over Transient now that it can proc off demon healing, but eh

[somber ledge]

But is my set up good

[wild rune]

archon shards are 2 tau +duration, 2 tau casting speed, and one tau parkour velocity

[wild rune]

for no forma, it'll function
unfortunately he isn't exactly Atlas and can just completely run away with zero forma, but it will function as needed

[somber ledge]

Sooo.... Do I forma and it won't hurt much before his prime?

[wild rune]

he JUST came out, you have at least two years before his prime

forma away

[pseudo lodge]

he just dropped???

[somber ledge]

Yeah but Uriel prime already teased so idk XD

[dire flint]

Any good Ash prime builds?

[wild rune]

DE is strict about their release schedules for primes, it will not change beyond the occasional gender swap on the schedule

you are free to forma Uriel as the prime is a long time away

[quiet laurel]

will take years btw

[somber ledge]

Good to know

Maybe I'll use a forma or two

[quiet laurel]

just go all in

[somber ledge]

God, do I need primed continuity tho

[wild rune]

don't make me put a vesper to your head and say forma him

[quiet laurel]

I really dont get why people wanna be so modest about formas on normal frames

[wild rune]

I only get picky if I know for a fact that the prime is releasing in maybe two weeks or is not vaulted, because at that point I know the normal frame is just gonna be helminth food

otherwise I've spent too much plat on forma, and that number will just continue to rise

[dire flint]

My temple has a lot of formas lol

But that’s only because Temple Prime is a few years away

[versed harbor]

plus primes barely have a stat difference

[wild rune]

they just look better most of the time

[quiet laurel]

energy is like the biggest factor

voruna prime gonna be a pretty big upgrade

cause DE for sure is gonna give her enough energy so she doesnt need a blue shard anymore

[wild rune]

oh god my ETA has nidus, nova, and ash as the choices

guess I'm building nova real quick

[dire flint]

Lol

[novel bear]

I’m hoping kullervo prime has enough armor to use persistence unmodded

[somber ledge]

Which is my biggest weakness to them

I'm a fashion rat

[wild rune]

actually never mind I'm just gonna build ash and call it a day because invisibility is funny

plus my only weapon option is phenmor

[near vortex]

My loadout looks good until it doesn't

[quiet laurel]

or just cheese with valkyr or hildryn

[wild rune]

it's ETA, I can't wild card anything because I still need the arcanes

[quiet laurel]

roll for the arcanes at loid

[near vortex]

Archweapon exilus slots when

[wild rune]

if it was EDA I would have already equipped Jade and called it a day

[pseudo lodge]

ok so tell me if im crazy but oriphim eyes in qorvex so i can strip armor in my 4

[wild rune]

it's very weak strip but it is an option
usually you're better off with other strip options

[near vortex]

Astronomically low chance btw

[grizzled mantle]

does anyone else wish that azure archon shards increased your base health, armor, and shields? I feel like that would make them a lot more popular.

[pseudo lodge]

i say because it lets me stay in 4

[wild rune]

again, it's VERY weak strip

[pseudo lodge]

yea ig

[versed harbor]

its just annoying cuz qorvex doesnt rly mod for duration either imo

[pseudo lodge]

if im doing a 4 based build what subume should i do

[quiet laurel]

vosfor so easy to get nowadays just roll like a hundred times or smth

[pseudo lodge]

bout that

[versed harbor]

either a strip or grouping rly but both will be recasted a fair bit

[near vortex]

I need to farm a crap ton of Descendia for Vosfor
I haven't had time

No loot room this week though so it's hard to justify

[versed harbor]

yee I run like neutral or just under on duration cuz its basically a dead stat imo other than for subsumes

1 is the only thing but it has high base duration so it doesnt rly care

[pseudo lodge]

im gonna either drop my 2 or 3

what do you think

[versed harbor]

either one is fine, I think the meta is drop 3 since you are invulnerable in your 4 anyway so status immunity doesnt rly matter

I just dont rly use his 2 for caster builds cuz its slow, finnicky range and needs an augment

[pseudo lodge]

damnit i need base hildryn screw that

they are very sensitive about the f word lmao

[versed harbor]

idm helios for strip on him either tbh its pretty quick

but obvs rip nautilus or hound then

[pseudo lodge]

maybe roar

[stiff dagger]

does anyone know if afflictions on harmony detonates any status effects ive primed before hand also or is it only the slash ive applied with harmony?

[pseudo lodge]

before hand

[fathom sky]

Harmony just eats all the DoTs and gives the damage immediately for those

[stiff dagger]

right i thought it was only the ones it applies

so its anything and everythging thats on there before i heavy

[novel bear]

Harmony is good with faction damage because it triple dips

[stiff dagger]

aint got a faction mod on but i do use roar with it

[novel bear]

Then again, most melees triple dip with influence

[pseudo lodge]

its nuts with ash

[hot thunder]

For a while i been trying to kind of Perfect my Frost Prime Build, its entire loadout. But i am unable to find a melee weapon that can fit the build. He is kind of a weapons platform right now, but as far as weapons go, im not sure if i have the right ones for dealing with hordes, single VIP targets and a melee. Would anyone help?

[vast raven]

i've always used okina incarnon with frost so lol, ice daggers go well with the ice frame

[midnight horizon]

Mr5 baby tenno, just got a few good mods to build Uriel to clear out star chart, how's it looking? I know the Vinquibus build a bit shakey but yeah im down for opinions and assistance

[hot thunder]

the okina incarnon is what i been using before. perhaps i need to go back to it as is the only one that kinda goes well with my build above. but i been trying to look for options.

[fierce lark]

i knew it

[wicked scaffold]

what weapons do yall think i should run with xata's whisper wisp
im in a little bit of a standstill right now with what primary i want

i remember someone mentioning kuva ogris being fun, but idk how good it is in actuality

[fierce lark]

look into getting corrupted mods, vital sense, and toxin mods. drop piercing hit and stormbringer from the gun, add whatever in the meantime

[wary pike]

Can anyone here help me with my dex pixia nuke Titiana kinda wanna know if heat mods that make up blast are considered separate from external heat dmg added to secondary’s

[novel bear]

Sybaris incarnon

[floral yew]

if you can, look into Arcane Circumvent. It allows you to strip armor and overguard by rolling into/through enemies, and add them to yourself. Temporarily for armo, but you can stack up to 10k overguard this way.

Adds a lot of survivability, and armor strip is very needed for high level grineer

[novel bear]

I don’t think mr5 is getting an old peace arcane any time soon

[fierce lark]

uriel is plenty capable of killing high level grineer without external armor strip

not that an mr5 is running into high level grineer any time soon either

[floral yew]

you can always trade.

[fierce lark]

if they have plat they're willing to spend on stuff, there's more important things to buy rn than circumvent

there's a lot of bare essentials missing from the overall arsenal, including the aforementioned vital sense and toxin mods

[wary pike]

Here is the build it’s xata whisper dex pixia with blast, corrosive, and toxin procs

Enervate on dex pixia

[fierce lark]

plus, once you get uriel's energy economy sorted he's pretty much immortal, overguard would really just be for qol if you use an explosive weapon, since his demons love getting him knocked around 🙃

[floral yew]

Okay, trying to fit the Galariak Prime, and I'm really torn. It gets 10% extra (flat) crit chance for every status effect on the target, so a moderate crit chance + a primer works well enough. That would also lead me to a Condition Overload rather than Prime Pressure point build.

It's got 30% base status chance and is pierce heavy, which leads me to Melee Doughty for the extra crit damage... or should I go Melee Careen for the crowd control and 2.5x damage mult? Decisions, decisions...

[plucky apex]

do i take forceful finality instead of fortress salvo for burston incarnon if i dont have more than 160 armor?

[pseudo lodge]

is the soma worth investing in?

[subtle crescent]

A lil bit. In my experience, its a crit build, but I've haven't been able to take it into very high level areas. It def has the ability to be very good imo

[wary pike]

Was theory crafting how it would work if I swap molt augmented for hot shot and run the new arcane that gives secondary’s heat dmg would the forced heat from that arcane add into blast or count as separate if it’s separate then running hotshot would push my crit into 2 new tiers before enervate even has a chance to proc depending on how enervate works in game like that will have to be found out but considering if everything I just said works out the way I’m thinking that would more then double my dmg on Tatiana right? On the off chance enervate isn’t able to proc with hot shot pushing me to high in crit which arcane would work for this? I’m willing to go all out testing this bc I also have a crazy idea for mesa using this exact same concept just need to know if I’m just crazy bc the way this ready

Someone just lmk if I’m actually insane or cooking here

[dire zenith]

any recommended weapons for xaku? currently I have Lex prime for acolytes and such but idk what to do for my other slots

[wary pike]

Can go wrong with Burston incarnon

Build for blast

Blast and xata is a huge aoe

[midnight horizon]

Thanks appreciate it

[cursive hedge]

Anyway to make it better?

[midnight horizon]

Thsnk you will try to grt that mod

[wary pike]

How far are you into the game ?

[midnight horizon]

Mr 5, unlocking saturn and some other planet rn, ik i dont need those big mods rn but i rather have them still, makes it easer for me anyways

[midnight horizon]

Looking for them, and yes im buying them with plat, thats how i got the arcanes and galvanized mod, building heavily from early so later on it would be a breeze

[fierce lark]

good shout, get galvanized aptitude once you can

galvanized scope is apparently pretty popular but im not a huge fan

[midnight horizon]

Thanks will try to get it

[spiral chasm]

You will unlock arbis when u get SP

So thats a loong way out

Unless u wanna buy with plat its like 20p ea

[fierce lark]

yeah im not personally a fan of buying a bunch of galv mods but buying them for your main guns is a good shortcut

[spiral chasm]

It is but usually at that point endo is so scarce

So many mods to upgrade

[midnight horizon]

Whats arbis

[spiral chasm]

Its a mission type. Dw abt it doesnt affect story or anything

Again u will only get the gamemode if u done every star chart node available

[quiet laurel]

*before new war

[midnight horizon]

Ighh bet

Whats the best secondary weapon as a beginner?

[ripe kindle]

Does anyone have a full setup with khora for steel path

[spiral chasm]

Personally i just abused the xoris early game.

You get it for free from a quest

[mighty flare]

Don’t mod for other elements besides puncture, use weeping wounds and blood rush

[midnight horizon]

Lol say less, will try to get it then

[spiral chasm]

Dont ever sell it tho. Refarming that is a pain

[midnight horizon]

Lol gotcha

[versed birch]

I just made MR9. I know that a lot of good SP weapons open up to me here. I like hitscan weapons or weapons I don’t have to aim very precisely as I primarily enjoy playing Melee or Caster builds right now. Any recommendations?

[strong quest]

What would be the best kinds of Shards to equip onto Caliban? Purple ability damage ones for his Augment?

[deep grotto]

Nah, Eris junction

[spiral chasm]

Cedo, bubonico

[deep grotto]

Steel path is all nodes

[spiral chasm]

oh i thought arbis was tied to SP

thats on me

[deep grotto]

Nah
Wouldn’t make sense considering it’s a lower enemy level compared to Steel Path

Maybe it was different before though? Ive seen people get mixed up about it

[spiral chasm]

anyone know what faction to use for perita?

[spiral chasm]

i think ur right tho. cause i remember u unlock arbi when zariman nodes come

[deep grotto]

Should be Orokin?

[fierce lark]

anarch

weak to elec and i think impact, there's no faction mod

im not sure if the bosses have a weakness, hunhullus is supposedly sentient, dunno about the dractolyst or the commandeered frames

[spiral chasm]

hmmm no~~ need for a~~ fac mod then ok

[silk hill]

does anyone know where to find prime Garuda relics?

[novel bear]

You can’t
She’s vaulted

Have to trade

[forest jetty]

Only when she’s in the current Prime Ressurgence rotation can you get her relics, other than by trade.

They cost Aya, when obtained from that source.

[low flax]

this is doing absolutely nothing in steel path how should I improve it

keep in mind I am abysmal at build crafting so if this is the worst thing you've seen in your life thats why 🙏

[versed harbor]

are u building combo and are u priming any viral

[strong quest]

It’s honestly not that bad, get dexterity arcanes on your archguns and/or secondary and swap out that doughty for something else depending on the following. Change sundering and berserker for elemental mods, dealers choice, if you can go for electric then use Influence

[midnight horizon]

You can take both galv mods off, since you're not dealing any meaningful status damage and reflex basically does nothing.

[low flax]

my idea was building combo to get weeping wounds to increase my puncture level, so doughty gives me more, but without being able to kill anything reflex doesnt really get the on kill effect and its really slow
and no I'm not viral priming because I forgot that I should be doing that lmao

[strong quest]

Wait what is galv reflex again?

[low flax]

I was using it mostly for the initial combo on kill because my idea was that it gave me more combo for weeping wounds to sustain off of therefore giving me more crit damage from doughty

[midnight horizon]

Increases initial combo after getting some kills. Also gives you heavy attack efficiency. It really does nothing when you're doing light spam attacks

[strong quest]

Fair enough yeah, then change that Galv mod for the one that increases crit damage and change the puncture and berserk for elementals

[chrome cedar]

What stats can I dump with Zephyr? I know her 1 scales with duration but idk about the others

[strong quest]

Doughty is only good for very particular weapons

[low flax]

ahhh okay

dang

[midnight horizon]

What's the base status chance of the bayonet?

[low flax]

20

so very meh

[midnight horizon]

Yeah doughty is dookie for it

[low flax]

😔

[midnight horizon]

I'd just go another influence build with it, especially because the bayonet strikes me as more of a single target melee

It doesn't do that many "wide swings"

[strong quest]

Influence, afflictions and Careen are all good for it

Depends on the play style you want

[low flax]

ahh yeah it does have that slam so afflictions would be cool

[low flax]

I dont WANT to do influence though its so booooring 😭

[strong quest]

Influence is cookie cutter, Afflictions with Gas is if you wanna be different, and Careen is the best one for cc and single target

[low flax]

mmm I see

I should keep weeping and blood rush tho? I was having an annoying amount of trouble keeping combo up but that mighta just been because of the lack of doing anything damagewise

[strong quest]

Yes, they are good, be sure to equip melee dexterity arcanes onto the Archgun and whichever secondary you’ve got

[low flax]

mmmm yeah okay

[strong quest]

and if you can slot in literally any Tennokai mod, it will help out greatly

I use both melee and gun so I use the one that gives me 4 seconds to use my heavy

[low flax]

I'd like to get discipline's merit but the farm is quite tedious

I could just trade for it I guess

[fathom sky]

You just buy it with Plat from market

[low flax]

myah

[strong quest]

Honestly with how overpriced a singular Tennokai mod is on the market, just buy the flipping bundle

100 plat for all the mods is better than 50 for a singular one

[low flax]

master's edge is only 5 plat

[strong quest]

I guess the less famous ones are cheaper

[low flax]

oh wait discipline's merit is 74

zamn

[strong quest]

That the one that lets you use Tennokai after 4 hits?

[low flax]

yea its the guaranteed tennokai one

[strong quest]

Yeah it’s soooo overpriced

[low flax]

I have like a million prime parts surely one of them is worth a decent sum

trading is such a pain but I do need the plat I suppose

[midnight horizon]

I guess you can just buy discipline's merit for only 75p then leave the rest

[low flax]

atp I'd rather just get the bundle

hell if I buy the bundle I could sell the individual mods for more than the bundle costs 😭

actually wait if I buy the bundle and sell the individual mods I could get more plat than I spent on the bundle

I have a plan.

[midnight horizon]

If it was that easy, people would've been doing that

[strong quest]

The bundle as a whole is probably worth less on the player market than on the ingame one

Assuming you don’t buy stuff vastly overpriced

[low flax]

meh yeah its probably too good to be true

[strong quest]

It’s probably a case of DM being the one used by literally everyone so it’s very expensive while every other mod sells for pennies

[fierce lark]

if you can get the whole mod package for 100 thats a good deal

cause iirc dreamer's wrath sells for like 40

you can probably get ~5p for the other mods each

[haughty moon]

Thoughts on my Vinquibus build?

Sry, I mean "builds" lol

[fierce lark]

bfury tends to be better than primed fury, prolly glad might over organ shatter, or primed reach if you feel like doubling the range

(or bane)

i think the gun has enough raw damage that acuity is severe overkill, would rather just run multishot for better bodyshot dmg

[haughty moon]

Fair enough honestly. Acuity seemed to make sense since I'm going for headshots

[fierce lark]

in practice, if you do headshot anything it's dead 20 times over

im not sure how acuity interacts with status headshots, but more multishot also means more status

[haughty moon]

That makes sense

[fierce lark]

personally i think it functions better as a raw damage gun for big targets, and using the melee version with influence for crowds

since you're forced to use them together you may as well try to use both to fill difference roles

[haughty moon]

Reason why I run Gas on Vinquibus is because it was an idea proposed by zenosfire on Youtube since Gas kills seem to count toward melee charges according to him

[fierce lark]

it goes off of headshots, and gas status affects individual limbs, so it could be the case

consistently? idk

[mighty flare]

multishot & punch through are accounted for the melee passive, makes it much more consistent
would swap to viral heat

[fierce lark]

oh yeah it's not even headshot kills it's just headshots, so you'd get more stacks by having multishot

[haughty moon]

Alright, I'll try it out. Thx

Though since I'm using it with Uriel, I think I'll swap out Heat for more fire rate or something

Maybe I'll try Semi-Rifle Cannonade actually if it works better as a raw damage gun

[mighty flare]

if ur using uriel then heat is even more important

[haughty moon]

It is?

[mighty flare]

yes

[haughty moon]

How so?

[fierce lark]

double dips the damage bonus from his 3

[haughty moon]

I see

I thought running Heat on the Vinquibus would be redundant when running Uriel since he specialises in it honestly

[mighty flare]

i think i put uriel variation in this
https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

[fierce lark]

heat inherit is a weird mechanic

the dots supposedly only get buffs from whatever was active when the first stack was applied, so you can't get extra buffs from heat/bane/etc mods if the first source of heat damage was from an ability

but heat mods and bane double/triple dip with the damage buff from his 3

and brimstone does so much damage on its own it shouldn't matter

so yeah, heat+bane=good

you can also subsume thermal sunder and run the thermal transfer augment for even more heat

im not sure if that's better/worse than subsuming nourish and replacing viral on the gun

[haughty moon]

Oh, yeah. I'm also using Panzer as a Viral primer. I forgot to mention that ^^;

So, should I keep viral on the Vinquibus or ditch it?

Actually, that's a question I think I already know the answer to

[fierce lark]

i still dont actually know if panzer applies viral to things fast enough to replace viral mods tbh

[mighty flare]

its doesnt really

[fierce lark]

but ive been taking the safe route of making sure i have it on gun/nourish

[mighty flare]

very inconsistent to just having viral

[haughty moon]

Alright

[mighty flare]

if ur going deep into heat dps, sunder better
nourish is good for general (non-specific) stuff

[haughty moon]

Actually, I think now that Primed Fury would be better given that I'm switching between melee and rifle to build up my charges. And I since I run Hot Shot on Uriel, Glad Might might be a bit redundant imo

[mighty flare]

this build looks fine, would consider primed reach over organ shatter/glad might for more consistent dps

[haughty moon]

Why over Organ Shatter specifically, if I may ask?

Oh, wait

[mighty flare]

already have cd from galv steel, other stats are harder to replace
also cant really get melee range externally like other stats

[sinful vale]

Need new big aoe weapon that can kill low level sp enemies realtively easily pls give suggestions

[haughty moon]

Ah, fair. I was gonna guess Melee Influence lol

[feral sundial]

can someone send me a good mesa build :))

[lavish orbit]

what type ? with a precise helminth ?

[feral sundial]

idk just got back to the game and forgot everything 🥹

[lavish orbit]

Aaaah- Let's get something not hair pulled then

That's some example, I've been testing a lot of builds with her, most of the time you'll go over duration and strength then search for survivability either with an helminth or modding (Waltz + Rolling guard for example, or even Circumvent now)

And for the pistols that's again just examples, play has you like or prefer to do
energizing shot give time to time energy orb that drops from enemy horde, love that feeling to not move and get back energy

[mighty flare]

you dont actually need that much strength or range on mesa, except pillage variant
pistol amp is poo

[mossy obsidian]

Does anyone have a good Titania build?

at least, to finish up the star map and start steel path? Cause I would like to be able to solo somethings if need be

[lavish orbit]

I just use the range on one build for muzzle flash, Ik that's not really required tho, I need to make them less minmaxed and I want to try things with those new arcanes that seems funny, ty

[foggy bolt]

why are you running energizing shot she's never gonna hit the orbs

[lavish orbit]

I wrote in italic why

[foggy bolt]

does it ever actually proc or

[lavish orbit]

Well, I use it, got some orbs fly to me from across a room

So it should be

[lavish orbit]

I dont shoot the orbs directly tho, I shoot the enemies that are behind when the orb jump from the corpse, it's just a bonus not really reliable has a source

[fierce lark]

i mean if you want to spend the extra 2 forma to slot it, sure

more reasonable thing to do i think is to leave the exilus locked

[lavish orbit]

Ye, that's why I give it has an example

[feral sundial]

tysm

[outer mauve]

Anyone have a good ash build that focuses on his invisibility? I was running a gimmick build for mecha using his pet to mark enemies for nuking but it's tedious and I'm bored of just nuking anyway. I wanna run around invisible assassinating enemies and using his other abilities and his 4th more

[hearty nexus]

Is “status effects” only elemental like heat, cold, and blast or does impact and slash count?

[fathom sky]

All of them count, so yes

[fierce lark]

all of them, including tau if you're playing caliban i think lol

[lavish orbit]

And void :]

[midnight horizon]

And microwave

Nah definitely not

[fierce lark]

also works from companion abilities, including the random status generated by momentous bond if you wanted a reason to slot that

[novel crown]

Do we know if galvanized shot works with sagek passive

[fierce lark]

in what sense?

if the enemy has 5 unique statuses, you'll do 1000% more base damage

for CO mods, im pretty sure that attacks that apply the statuses don't benefit from the CO effect

[novel crown]

The unique way sagek applies stats with crits as galvanised mods can be ify if it actually applies

[fierce lark]

oh no im sure it works, the only thing CO mods check for is statuses on the target, doesn't matter how they got there

[novel crown]

Okay

[maiden oracle]

I've already started struggling with my Lich's units and they're only at level 90, any tips for what I can do here?

Really dunno what else to do to make it stronger aside from primed mods and 60/60s for more status

[fierce lark]

viral

if you don't have that from elsewhere

[maiden oracle]

Does viral work on Grineer? I thought their yellow HP counted as Armor instead of raw red health

[fierce lark]

armored hp is still hp

[hard dove]

youre still doing dmg to their health

[fierce lark]

though i agree that's a little unclear

[maiden oracle]

Yeahhhh

[hard dove]

armor just reduce those dmg

[fierce lark]

the only thing viral doesn't affect is shields and overguard

[maiden oracle]

I just assumed red hp like Corpus was health HP and yellow was its own thing
Kinda like Overwatch armor

[hearty nexus]

What does “on damaged” mean?

[maiden oracle]

Good to know then, I'll see what I can use for priming

[fierce lark]

yeah i get it, but no

if you fully armor strip a target, its hp bar becomes red instead of yellow

yellow just shows they have armor

[maiden oracle]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Okay that's great to know, thanks

[hard dove]

on you taking dmg

[maiden oracle]

Is it even worth it to run heat and corrosive together before SP actually?

[hearty nexus]

I just run viral

[hard dove]

yes you strip like 90% of armor that way

[maiden oracle]

Alright I'll keep that in mind then

[hard dove]

plus its usually a good raw dmg options on some weapon

[fierce lark]

viral heat is better, but corroheat is good if you have innate viral or an ability that can apply it

non-steel path grineer don't have that much armor anyway

[maiden oracle]

How much worse is it once you hit SP

[fierce lark]

1 stack of viral status is already doubling your damage

[hard dove]

when i first started doing sp mission i ran out of ammo just to kill 2 grineer

[fierce lark]

uh it depends on the unit, but safe to say most level 100+ grineer are pretty tanky

[maiden oracle]

I see

[fierce lark]

however

[maiden oracle]

Forgot about that fine text on it

[fierce lark]

if your gun is built well, heat status by itself does a good job of helping get through armor

yeah viral is +100% damage taken at 1 stack and +25 per additional stack for +325% at max stacks

[maiden oracle]

My guns are the weakest part of my kit tbh

[fierce lark]

by far the strongest status effect

[maiden oracle]

I never learned how to build rifles well and the fact that my melee mods are so much stronger than gun mods doesn't help either

[noble sparrow]

Can anyone tell me what this guy's syndana is? The rhino

I've been looking for it forever and I really want it

[hard dove]

ephemra from titania deluxe bundle

[maiden oracle]

Actually, should I take Virulent Scourge or Primed Fever Strike?
I've been using Scourge cause more status chance is great but now I'm wondering if Primed's raw damage would be more worthwhile