builds-discussion

[old marsh]

Atleast for primaries u can roll a better vital sense

[fierce lark]

4.6m base range or smth but yeah 8.1 with reach, 8.6 if attacking midair, and it's fun as hell to use

secondary mods are kinda stacked huh

have to be to make up for the lower base stats ig

better cc, better cd, better base dmg and multishot, more multishot, better and more fire rate, more primed elements

[maiden oracle]

Fair, bigger blender...
What's Primed Reach at max again, 4m more?

[fierce lark]

3.5

[novel fjord]

is bolor or thornbak better?

[placid tartan]

any recommendations? this is the best i could without looking stuff up

[maiden oracle]

Still huge, awesome

Before I go to sleep, does anyone have a general guide to rifle modding? My guns feel wayyyyy weaker than melee, and I wanna know how to fix that even without great mods

[hard dove]

blast

rad is not good status to be using on a status weapon

also what is riven

[placid tartan]

even if it comes with rad?

[novel fjord]

is boltor or thornbak better?

[mighty flare]

instead of serration, use stormbringer then use deadhead for arcane

[hard dove]

yes

[placid tartan]

Hmmm alr

I’ll put blast on it sometime in the future

[hard dove]

drop ppb for faction mod

[placid tartan]

Took me an hour to get the credits and edno for primed charged shell

[hard dove]

and do get galv chamber when you can its a big increase

[mighty flare]

👍
https://overframe.gg/build/925694/exergis/exergis-viral-electric/

[placid tartan]

I was gonna get that but normal looked better idk

First time building a bfg

[hard dove]

its like 110% ms difference at max stack

[placid tartan]

ms?

o

[hard dove]

multishot

[placid tartan]

this is 120

o

i see nvm

what are the benefits

[hard dove]

wdym benefits its straight up better

the only downside is that it needs to build up

but its only 10% worse at no stack

and 110% better at max stack

[placid tartan]

Oh I see

Interesting

Looks like I have fissures and trading to do

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-gif-12944899486400191725

[hard dove]

nope you just need 5 hrs of arbitration

[placid tartan]

Sounds like the same grind just preference ngl

[hard dove]

well fissure isnt exactly an endo farm

arbi gives you the mod + endo to lvl them

[placid tartan]

Oh fax

I also do fissures to sell other stuff and get stuffs I want too

[mighty flare]

consider using stormbringer instead of serration then using primary deadhead

[low hound]

Does anyone know any good single target weapons for disruption?

[fierce lark]

laetum, furis

[low hound]

Please nothing basic like the torid

[low hound]

Arent those 2 status weapons i need something that deletes as soon as i click

[fierce lark]

torid isn't even a good single target weapon lol

[low hound]

Status kills too slow for me without expediting suffering

[fierce lark]

laetum is not a status weapon

furis kinda is, but it also just vaporizes whatever you look at with it

[low hound]

is it still level cap viable?

I heard the incarnons dont work the same with xatas anymore

[fierce lark]

not sure tbh, haven't played levelcap disruption

i just know that they are extremely good at melting 1 target

[proper vapor]

Does Amalgam Ripkas True Steel work with Khora’s Whipclaw and Strangledome?

[drowsy pelican]

Anyone have an Excalibur prime build

[fierce lark]

works with everything i believe

[slate urchin]

i found this laetum build, but i cant understand why he'd use accelerated isotope, i mean now with the new secondry irradiation would work but idk

[fierce lark]

as long as you have it equipped

[wintry olive]

anyone can give me any build/suggestion for the railjack that can survive kuva and sister

[coral crest]

Yes. it affects everything, even companions

[fierce lark]

to maximize raw damage

although hornet strike is weird af

[slate urchin]

hornet strike multiplies the laetum incarnon non crit dmg

idk how much its the boost but its that boost*hornet strike

[fierce lark]

the non-crit thing is 1/2 2000%

[somber sage]

im early game, should i use holster amp on mesa? or just stick with energy siphon

[coral crest]

Holster amp doesn't trigger from her pistols fyi

And energy regen is disabled when pistols are out

[fierce lark]

out of those two options, energy siphon

[somber sage]

i struggle a bit with energy as of rn when doing solo

[slate urchin]

ye its 20x dmg multiplied by the hornet strike, its separate

[somber sage]

ill use energy siphon thanks you two

[fierce lark]

wild

[slate urchin]

but i still cant understand how radiation maximize raw dmg, doesnt radiotn make the enmie attack eachother?

[fierce lark]

someone who does a lot of warframe math told me the 1200% base dmg thing was better, with either enervate or outburst

[fierce lark]

it's not about the status, it's 60% elemental damage and 40% fire rate

[slate urchin]

so i could just replace it with something else?

[fierce lark]

if you want to or dont have it, sure

[woven berry]

This is my Umbra build
Second ability has Kullervo Wrathful Advance subsumed over it

If you're using Excal Prime, or base, Warrior's Rest can be substituted for Power Drift

[dire zenith]

Any primaries that are really good at killing thrax and acolytes with no build up or anything? My secondary is taken by tome and I mainly use a melee so I won't have galvanized anything stacked

[woven berry]

The Universal Fallout and Radiation (Focus Radon) is just a thing I'm playtesting to see if it's actually viable. If you don't have AUF, do any other arcane you think will fit and swap out Focus Radon for something else. Maybe Arcane Reaper or Arcane Strike, and Vicious Frost instead of Focus Radon to get Viral-Electric

[lucid sun]

Which archon shards is better to use for Mesa?

[fierce lark]

all topaz secondary crit

one cast speed yellow for qol if you want

[green escarp]

sorry for askin but i was partly curious, is Roar on Sevagoth highly recommended or no? because i find his 4 really fun but heard that Roar is really really good on him

[lucid sun]

I dont think i ever feel that Mesa cast speed is slow, thanks

[mighty flare]

its best for a pure caster setup

[green escarp]

would you say this is one of them?

dont have a lot of the arcanes so going with whatever i have atm

forgot to mention that this is a 2 forma sevagoth build

[mighty flare]

caster setup takes quite a bit of investment, you dont hit the breakpoints off this without stronger mods/arcanes & more conditional boosts from grimoire/parazon/operator

[coral crest]

End goal is for each 100% hp damage I suppose

[green escarp]

wdym?

[coral crest]

People build him as a caster in a way that his two tap combo one shot everything

To reach 100% hp damage

[green escarp]

so this build i have doesnt reach that 100% hp damage?

[coral crest]

That's why everyone is so obsessed with str stacking

It's not really that mandatory if you want to have fun and kill things on your own/rely on extra blast

But viral priming and/or str are important if you want to get to that gap

[mighty flare]

you'd just leave enemies low, which is fine but atp just run general/subsumeless

[green escarp]

does transient fortitude work here?

[mighty flare]

yea

[green escarp]

what would you actually replace then?

[mighty flare]

the main is that caster sevagoth, is so slot starved that good chunk of builds dont use strength mods
just shards/arcanes, the few exceptions are like precision intensify

[green escarp]

so most people just opted in to keep it until you get to Archon Shards?

[coral crest]

So much effort into chasing such a horrifying high

[keen flax]

Is there some trick to fighting the Dactolyst in Steel Path? I spent like 20 minutes solo just POURING rounds onto him, it was awful. Thing is, normally my DPS is pretty good?
I'm using Oberon and I had his 1 (augment), 2 and 4 up for most of the fight, so that's bonus damage and armor strip right there.
This is my Cedo Prime build

[coral crest]

So you're getting frostbite from the glaive?

[keen flax]

Yeah it's got guaranteed procs of a bunch of elements, incl. frost

[coral crest]

Dunno how reliable that is, but at least it doesn't cost ammo I suppose

[keen flax]

Plus like what's the better option for a bossfight like that? I'm not sure if it even HAS a weak spot, and if so I dunno where it is, so Crux and Deadhead are out. You don't get a lot of other kills in that fight so Merciless and Shotgun Vendetta are out

[mighty flare]

if you dont have lots of stuff, use precision intensify and subsume roar on 4
you can close gap with molt vigor, grimoire, madurai/zenurik

[mighty flare]

do you have laetum?

[keen flax]

Yeah

[mighty flare]

use that instead

[coral crest]

Laetum brainwashing

[keen flax]

Where's the weak point on that boss to charge the incarnon?

[green escarp]

precision over umbral im guessing?

[wild rune]

The bosses of Perita Rebellion have amounts of health that trump even the Fragmented Ones because DE expects you to have completed enough initiatives to make up for it; not doing enough will likely make them feel like brick walls

[wild rune]

should be the face, though it might be difficult to hit if the Dactolyst is moving a lot

[mighty flare]

idk, sorta his head area, you can also precharge it before you enter the fight
do you have xatas whisper subsume?

[keen flax]

Aw snap that's probably the issue, I've been paying ZERO attention to the initiatives in terms of making sure that matches my build

[mighty flare]

i remember precharging the incarnon and the magazine lasting entire fight

[fierce lark]

is primary frostbite actually good on like...any build at all? cold seems like such a worthless status to build into

[wild rune]

for guns, you're looking for Madurai's initiatives giving +25% damage and fire rate per initiative

[karmic badger]

yoooo since when could this shoot full auto

[fierce lark]

technically every gun can fire full auto, there's an accessibility option that lets you hold fire semi and burst fire guns

[keen flax]

Highly recommend it too, it makes single shot guns like Laetum and Phenmor tolerable before incarnon

[fierce lark]

i spent a lot of time shooting the plasmor before i learned about it

not fun

[wild rune]

-# <- is a clicker guy and doesn't have the option enabled

[fierce lark]

christ

[keen flax]

I mean if it works for you it works for you I guess?

[karmic badger]

yeah, but last i recalled you hat to let go of mmb before it could charge up again

[fierce lark]

not sure, i remember bassocyst altfire i was able to hold down

[wild rune]

"whatever, go my larvae"

[coral crest]

Speaking of

Bassocyst alt fire Debilitate, it has forced magnetic procs

I should try making that work

[fierce lark]

lmao you'd have to shoot it 10 times

bassocyst primary fire kills most things in 1 hit anyways

debilitate is a gimmick for shotguns or miniguns with lavos/cyte/other forced status applicators

might be really funny on the kuva kohm

[karmic badger]

is there such a thing as too much multishot?

[fierce lark]

nah

[zealous rapids]

have you tried viral tenet glaxion with that arcane

[fierce lark]

i still dont own a tenet glaxion for some reason

[half sierra]

I like it on Sybaris Incarnon. Either Dex or Prime. Corrosive/Cold with a Nourish frame, plus the Incarnon's blast damage. So, so, so many big numbers.

[zealous rapids]

cold is very useful as crowd control, also for high crit chance weapons, since cold/freeze increase crit damage

I run it on some configs with verglas sentinel that modded for cold with shivering contagion

this way I don't need to mod cold on the weapon

[half sierra]

Yesss. I also tried out a Corrosive/Cold/Mag Acceltra Prime build that actually went pretty hard in the paint with Primary Frostbite.

[potent current]

what other frames would be more suitable to use arcane persistence?

[half sierra]

Is persistence the no shield one, or the super shield via strength one

[potent current]

no shield one

[zealous rapids]

no-shield one, so no-shield frames, kullervo, inaros, nidus

[potent current]

gotcha

[zealous rapids]

frames with little shield can work too, like qorvex, oraxia and valkyr

[half sierra]

I have a couple builds for Oraxia, Kullervo, Nidus, Inaros, Valkyr, Excalibur Umbra, and Saryn for that arcane. But not having it r5 had stopped me from testing my theorycrafting. I've been in bed all day lmao

[potent current]

ye i figured bout valkyr

[zealous rapids]

oraxia need health conversion to get armor tho

[half sierra]

I also have a really, really mad scientist Ash build for that arcane lmao

[potent current]

hmm i wonder if the super shield via strength would work on yareli but idk

[half sierra]

It does. I already used a Pillage Yareli build and that arcane on her FAWKS. Hardcore. 1000000% recommend.

[potent current]

i dont have pillage yet thoo

only reliable i got rn is roar

[zealous rapids]

you have to farm exploiter orb for pillage

[half sierra]

No worries. Even without it, it's pretty good. Pillage just makes her overshields go nutty high lmao. Could also put that on an Umbral Harrow build and watch as his shields go as high as a Rhinos overguard lmao

[zealous rapids]

and for that you need to farm thermia fractures event

[half sierra]

Or squad up with someone that has plenty of leftover thermia. I've taxi'd plenty of ppl straight to the orb fight.

[potent current]

gotcha gotcha

[zealous rapids]

still need to have at least one diluted thermia, can't go there emptyhanded

[half sierra]

You can. I've dragged ppl into it that hasn't ever done the introduction steps.
You just go into open world and go straight to its cave. No need to start that via bounty. That's how you taxi empty-handed ppl

[zealous rapids]

I tried that with a friend, and it just kicked me from the squad

it was about 2 years ago tho

[half sierra]

What the...
Okay, that's weird. Might be a more recent change, bc i dragged my roommate through it during the tail end of Yareli Prime access. I had around 50 or so thermia and she didn't even start anything introductory. Like the first 3 bounties leading up to it. Did that with a couple other friends during Isleweaver patch days too.

[zealous rapids]

there is no extra bounties for exploiter orb, you don't even need rank 5, all you need is each player to have diluted thermia in inventory

that time, I had to wait for the thermia event and farm a few before i could join my friend

[midnight horizon]

Works for anyone ngl

I been using it on saryn ever since it dropped

[lavish orbit]

Nvm got a wrong information

[fierce lark]

valkyr's strength is additive with weapon damage mods right

is there even any reason to run a weapon damage mod?

[mighty flare]

Condition overload cuz still #1 dmg boost mod with external priming
Sacrificial pressure if using with sacrificial steel for crit maxing

[fierce lark]

nothing lives long enough for external priming, and im using galv steel

[mighty flare]

the only external primer you run is urself or driga, otherwise no real reason
with crit dmg shards, sacrificial steel pulls ahead of galv steel

[fierce lark]

is that true for all melees

and is that also true with 4 rather than 5

[mighty flare]

what?

[fierce lark]

sac steel being better than galv steel

4 crit shards

[mighty flare]

yeah

[fierce lark]

hm

what about if you're also using blood rush

[mighty flare]

yea

[fierce lark]

am i missing something? blood rush gives like 1.5x more crit chance than 4 violet shards gives crit damage, how does giving up 120% crit damage for 110% crit chance when you already have way more crit chance result in more damage?

is the goal not to keep these two sources as even as possible?

[cerulean radish]

asking here because people told would be better but wick one should i get ? is hard for me to choose, because it's gonna change my build but the one on the right is better ? even with the left with 150% multishot + the normal multishot mods that i added?

im using the one off the left and split chamber, so idk if i should change it for the new roll

i keept the multishot one since i dont have the incarno version yet

[fierce lark]

yeah i was gonna say take the right one and slot it over your cold mod

CD rivens are really good on rifles, hard stat to get

left one is better for incarnoff since you need a mod for heat

[cerulean radish]

yeah

ty! gonna rool another one i have with similar stats but is just 100% multi so i try it to be better for when i cave incarnon

[fierce lark]

multishot doesn’t apply to the aoe component so it’s not as valuable

and the aoe is pure heat so you don’t need to mod for it

[cerulean radish]

i think i got a good one for incarnon

this is another one i have for it, so i have now one for incarnoff and on xD

gonna take some time for me to get incarnon so im good with both

[muted scroll]

Can someone recommend a strong (steel path / lvl9999) viable primary weapon?

Im fine with any type of weapon as long as it packs a punch and is pretty fun, Torid and phenmor are boring

[old marsh]

[muted scroll]

Tenet envoy alright write that down

[old marsh]

be mindful that its not the most used. its the one with the most kills. most used in 2024 was Torid

[muted scroll]

Torid is boring poo

Plus without a magazine mod it’s a 2 shot wonder

[old marsh]

i know

[fierce lark]

tenet envoy before the explosive adversary weapons all had their ammo nerfed to the shitter

[nova swift]

tenet envoy has pretty decent ammo tho

[fierce lark]

maybe it was the armor nerf

[old marsh]

dont tell him. let it not be nerfed any further. its best used by less people

[fierce lark]

explosive viral hm not meta for everything anymore

not that i played during that period but

it sounds pretty boring

i like watching the things i shoot evaporate, not slowly bleed out

[old marsh]

u never mod envoy for viral anyways

[nova swift]

it was either viral hm (or before that tigris prime with 100% status per pellet) or armor strip, nothing else worked back then

[old marsh]

realistically u never have to put an element mod on Tenet Envoy anyways. it has cold and with heat proj u get blast innate

[fierce lark]

does blast ignore armor or smth

[nova swift]

Yea I usually slap it on mirage and just blow stuff up with it

works well enough in EDA

[old marsh]

nah. it just goes boom boom

[crisp merlin]

Good morning y'all. I need some tips on improving Lavos as a weapons platform with valence formation. I'm going with the grimoire and cascadia flare, I'm going with making Lavos tanky. I would have want to only use the grimoire, but if I add anything else it would be a melee weapon. Are there any core pieces that I might need? So far I'm using the Mecha set on myself and condition overload with some elemental mods on my grimoire

[nova swift]

What frames are you planning on using?

[nova swift]

depends on how you want to tank, if you go persistance you want some way to heal, my current favourite is daikyu with amalgam target aquired and syam. You just heavy attack and the wave kills everything and heals you to full

that being said daikyu is not as great as a paris prime if you go for mecha route, I assume you want your doggo to be as strong as possible

[old marsh]

btw Lavos's 1 heals

i am also debating if i should do 2 umbra on lavos or stick with archon+precision

[crisp merlin]

So far my form of tanking is using guardian and the 100% knock down on energy pickup arcanes with adaptation, umbral fiber, annnnd I think that's it?

[old marsh]

thats a very weird build. mind sharing?

[crisp merlin]

Sure! Once I'm home later on from work in...9hours 😅. Unless there's an app to check these things?

[nova swift]

yea warframe companion app you can use to check out your loadouts

(can also be used to craft forma's)

[crisp merlin]

Sick. I'll download it now and send a screenshot

[muted scroll]

Loki

[lofty path]

Well I WAS having a blast modding the Vinquibus until I realized that the mod polarities for melee and primary are mirrored...

There goes an umbral forma down the drain..

[old marsh]

Simulor worth modding around this augment? or just a useless niche case mod?

[fierce lark]

putting an umbral polarity on it was probably not a good idea to begin with, seems the consensus is light attack influence being the build

so you want CO+galv steel anyway

[lofty path]

I was using it with my Valkyr. I had 17.5x critical damage lol

[fierce lark]

unsure of the relation

[old marsh]

replace the arcanes with arcane ice storm and persistence. replace const with stretch. replace umbral fiber with umbral intensify. and use 1 blue shard for increasing the armor over 700 to use persistence

[fierce lark]

but underframe and math has made it pretty clear to me that galv steel is always better than sac steel on 12x builds, assuming you can get to 12x

[crisp merlin]

I'm gonna need to get to the point of using shards. I still don't have it unlocked

[dire gulch]

whats the vibe for vinquibus?

[lofty path]

I have five purple shards for critical damage. I wanted to go hard into critical chance.

[old marsh]

tipping point is 9x. upto that u can have SS. after that u want GS

[lofty path]

Very fun.

[dire gulch]

sorry I meant modding wise LOL

[old marsh]

that is given u have blood rush

[dire gulch]

I can see how its fun, but Im trying to get around modding it since they share polarities

[lofty path]

Still trying to figure that out too.

[fierce lark]

the innate omni makes it a lot easier

[karmic beacon]

https://overframe.gg/build/893671/

Which element to use for this?

[old marsh]

aah. then use either one of these

umbral fiber is only good when u make a full/2 umbral set

[dire gulch]

its really only the rifle Im struggling wiht

the melee is just basic influence meta

[lofty path]

Yea, trying to decide if I want to do Acuity or Multishot.

[lavish orbit]

Optimise build or getting space by putting shards instead of mods, basically red archon for duration is pretty good on lavos

[crisp merlin]

Carnis it is then!
And I think that's what I'll do: use red archon shards to maximize duration for status effects

What about for the grimoire? Because I want to maximize that

[fierce lark]

i dont think status duration is actually that relevant unless you're shooting an uncapped status boss or using harmony

[crisp merlin]

I was considering using Harmony and potentially wrathful advance

[fierce lark]

im also weird though, i subsumed roar over 4 just for pint 🙃

[old marsh]

i am personally debating what to place in last 2 slots. more duration is nice but i am thinking maybe str

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/sadhotgirl-gif-23622451

[crisp merlin]

I'm thinking if I go with Harmony, I would need to use the irradiation archon for my grimoire to help spread and then use wrathful advance to pop everything

We need more grimoires 😩

[fierce lark]

with valence dot + wrathful advance, you will probably delete everything you touch, doubt priming will do anything

[coral crest]

Single target crit weapon

[fierce lark]

it sorta works with itself tbh

melee influence for crowds, use the efficiency to drill into big targets

does interact a little weird with on-kill arcanes and mods though because of that

[dire gulch]

This works? Or should I drop crit delay for galv apt

[coral crest]

What works?

[dire gulch]

Image didnt send blegh

[coral crest]

Seems fine, not sure about vile acceleration though

I'm not super good when it comes to modding

[crisp merlin]

Damn. I wanna focus on the grimoire, but everything else just synergizes better for Lavos 😮‍💨

[fierce lark]

lavos can't read

[crisp merlin]

But all of the other shoot bang frames can read though!

Even Mesa

I would dual wield books with her honestly

[coral crest]

he can

he can use grimoire well

you just arent using the usual mods people run on grimoire

and not really running weapon based subsumes

[fierce lark]

i ain't the lavos grimoirer

grimoirdian

[coral crest]

he is a caster

which means he can use grimoire buffs to a great extent

actually i dont feel like explaining, my mind is not in the right state for that

i will pretend i havent said anything of substance and havent deleted any messages

[fierce lark]

valence formation is a trap that makes people turn their brain off

[coral crest]

yeah that

[fierce lark]

you aren't playing lavos

you're playing valence formation

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[crisp merlin]

Lemme play better chroma with book in peace 😤😤😤

[coral crest]

he is not chroma

not even in the slightest

[fierce lark]

my experience with lavos is subsuming off 4 for roar, slotting precision intensify and using valence to replace viral mods

or to armor strip with corrosive lol

[crisp merlin]

He can change his elements. Just without the need of coloring his energy lol

[coral crest]

lavos is a pure caster and everything else is basically breaking his kit in half

[fierce lark]

as i do with all frames i did try to actually interact with lavos without any subsumes

but for how fast paced warframe is, he has too many buttons for me

[coral crest]

All that Lavos propaganda and people just lobotomize him

[fierce lark]

if i wanna kill with abilities

i'll just throw horses at people instead

[coral crest]

Well dialogue was about Lavos

[fierce lark]

this is about lavos

specifically me complaining about how confusing he is

[carmine dew]

ngl all you do is spam 1+4 and then 4

i wish i understood the general trend of lavos glaze but actually i understand it perfectly

redditors fall in love with the middest frames imaginable

[coral crest]

Trend of lavos glaze is manufactured

Because people don't know how to play him, they just play with valence formation

[carmine dew]

yeah bc valence formation is the only thing that makes him good really 😭

[fierce lark]

yeah i think the glaze is "free 200% damage mod with guaranteed status go brr"

[carmine dew]

caster lavos isnt useless but hes really kneecapped by his cooldowns

[coral crest]

Because people build/use caster lavos like garbage

[coral crest]

This is an example

[carmine dew]

his 1 has tiny range and his 2 and 3 dont really do anything in even base sp

[coral crest]

Because you aren't doing damage with them

[carmine dew]

yeah he has one damaging ability and it has a gigantic cd

[fierce lark]

2 is mainly used for strip and mobility i think

3 is cdr

[coral crest]

And you're supposed to use his cd reduction

To pull it up as quickly as possible

[carmine dew]

yeah and like

you could do that or you could just play dante or nezha or whatever and just slam with cd-less abilities

it dosent help that his 4 has such an insanely long cast for zero reason

[coral crest]

Ok then just go play revenant with a Torid and nourish or whatever

Easy buttons

[carmine dew]

literally what am i missing

[carmine dew]

like this is whats keeping him afloat

otherwise he's just a really inconvenient and kind of unimpressive caster with a niche of free energy for associated railjack or archimedea memes

[fierce lark]

this kinda just sounds like the ad infinitum fun vs efficient argument

[versed harbor]

funny gas nuke lavos go weee

[fierce lark]

well thats the problem

the efficient way to play lavos is to not play lavos and just play valence formation instead lol

[crisp merlin]

The rotation for cd isn't even too bad. 4,3, 1, 3 until you can 4 again. Build efficiency

[fierce lark]

indeed

lavos happens to have access to one of the craziest gun buffs in the game and it's completely unaffected by mods and does nothing with any of his abilities

he's a pretty good posterchild for "gunframe weeeee"

[fathom gyro]

I don't play Lavos to pigeon hole him as anything, I play him because he's fun to use.

[crisp merlin]

Honestly, I love Lavos because of valance formation and he's an alchemist Warframe. He helps me make an elemental spellbook which I also enjoy. I do love that he gets a rotation too and makes me think of playing my old FFXIV classes

Can other frames optimize the grimoire more than him, sure? But he's got the sauce I like. Caster, weapon platform, or otherwise

For sure! Is that the way I'd wanna go? Not personally but it's definitely a viable option

Okay, I think you're blowing up to blow up 😅. Like, people are on your side but the mines are going off anyway

[coral crest]

Yeah that's why I said I am not in the right mind to argue about it

[crisp merlin]

That's fair

[charred mauve]

can anyone show me a good exodia contagion build for high level sp

[nova swift]

fun part about valence formation is that it is one of the rare sources of "combined status" damage. So Gas procs directly benefit from the 200% buff. Blast does not rip

[fierce lark]

i thought those only cared about the base damage

[nova swift]

Kind of? They care about base damage and their combined damage

so gas ignored heat and toxin, but does benefit from direct gas damage

leaded gas on the vesper 77 is pretty strong because of that. Good on someone like Ivara who can really leverage the crit damage and headshot multiplier combined with its unique mod

Blast apparently doesnt

[fierce lark]

ic

blast benefits pretty heavily from 100% status chance lol

[nova swift]

that being said, if you have a priming doggo with mecha you can do some fun stuff on lavos. Stack a bunch of statuses on mecha target + heat inherit then catalyse it for a huge heat tick that gets buffed by the inherit into a huge mecha spread

and because the mecha spread counts as pet damage contagious bond can take it even further

[fierce lark]

ive used nothing but panzer for the last year idk what any of this means

[nova swift]

so mecha set puts a mark on an enemy, if you kill that enemy it spreads all status effects. But this mark originates from the pet, so it is counted as pet damage

contagious bond then spreads that damage because its pet damage

[fierce lark]

how far

[nova swift]

mecha is 30 meters spread

contagious after another 9

[charred mauve]

please if anyone can

[fierce lark]

i kinda hate that these entertaining ideas of removing red arrows from the map can pretty much only be done in sp

because of the aforementioned kph pissing contest

i can’t exactly set up this cool 39m nuke because

Torid lobs a toxic payload.

[nova swift]

so lets say you altfire with a primer bubonico with debilitate (or some other status hose) and you start with viral, add magnetic and radiation mods, add corrosive and you valence blast

so that would buff the catalyse damage by 2^9

and that heat proc would spread

[coral crest]

If you can actually inflict over 10 procs of those combined elements together and win the gamble

It would

[charred mauve]

can melee influence crit?

[fierce lark]

no, because status ticks can’t crit

[coral crest]

only gyre with her ability electricity

[tiny elk]

Does anyone have a good build for the Glaive p? Im endgame but I cannot piece together a good one for the life of me or find a decent build on YouTube

[nova swift]

Kinda like this? If I fired again I would hit 11M damage instead. This is without inherit ofcourse

[charred mauve]

can you roll like status dmg on a riv? or no? trying to make a neat build with contagion and influence

[nova swift]

also this is lvl 22 lavos, I got the prime yesterday so the skills arent maxed out yet

damage should be 1.25x higher

oh yea and this isnt a mecha target, so you arent getting the 150% damage buff either

that being said your dog might kill them before you can hit 4...

[versed harbor]

status ticks cant crit but status ticks are based on the original hit's damage which is increased by crit if that makes sense

[tight rapids]

anyone got a coda pathocyst build?

[nova swift]

oh yea, I also forgot to infuse catalyst, so you could have heat and either electric or toxin riding along too

[forest stirrup]

Anyone got a good build for sevregoth

[dense geode]

is it better to run red or purple archon shards for gara?

[velvet pulsar]

Best nikana stance?

[deep grotto]

#1429852785251455016

The actual build is at the very top, don’t pay attention to anything else (or at least, if you do, pay close attention so you don’t mistake an unfinished build for a proper one)

[sinful hatch]

Anyone know of a non melee weapon that work well with Vexoric crit chance bonus. should i be going for low crit chance weapons to take advantage of it, or high crit chance to get better red crits.

[forest stirrup]

What's a good Volt build and a good wu kong build

[proud anchor]

Blind justice last i checked

[velvet pulsar]

Thx for confirmation

[sinful hatch]

u want a volt build for affinity farm in or general use. depends what u want

[forest stirrup]

What's the difference

[sinful hatch]

well one build people use is to mass zap all enemies fast in sanctuary onslaught. Its a focus on damage from 4.

while general use is for like. real game play. helps u survive and give buffs and stuff

[forest stirrup]

Could I get both

[hexed lodge]

I'd ask the same, you want a nuke build? low or high investment? general use or shadow only?

[forest stirrup]

What Warframe are nuke frames

[hexed lodge]

On top of my head - Equinox, Nezha, Sevagoth, Sobek (weapon), Garuda, Gauss and i heard some saying Hildryn too

[carmine dew]

sobek needs an enabler frame (cyte, saryn, oraxia) to nuke because the explosion is very weak on its own

[forest stirrup]

So if I did a build for sevaegoth could it be both a nuke build and a general build

[carmine dew]

how are you defining 'nuke build' exactly

i wouldn't recommend sevagoth to new players tbh

he's very strong but he's very high investment

one of the highest in the game

[hexed lodge]

He's high investment only if you go for roar-nuke, but he's more than viable for low content, just a bit hard to understand.
But yes, @forest stirrup you can do both, will take some forma though.

[carmine dew]

his nuke is % based and thus pretty underwhelming without high density to cascade off of

[coral crest]

Hildryn just has an aoe exalted

wouldnt really call it a nuke

[carmine dew]

esp if youre not doing the one-shot build

he also basically NEEDS his augments and has a huge energy consumption for pretty much any build

[hexed lodge]

You don't need a nuke for low lvl content, his 2+1 also relies on enemy density, which is low in early content.

@coral crest Oh thanks! also hi

[carmine dew]

hes not very good as a general frame imo, esp if you are new

like gloom's base slow is really low and he doesnt have much else

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-kitten-kitty-hi-hii-hey-gif-21229532

[carmine dew]

if that guy is absolutely dying to play him then go ahead but imo i would recommend nezha, garuda, and gauss way more

they have survivability tools and arent as mod dependent

[forest stirrup]

So for the main quests past the chains of Harrow who would be a good Warframe to use that will get me through to the end

[carmine dew]

what frames do you have

[coral crest]

Equinox, Nezha(needs extra status fuel), sevagoth, sobek(needs secondary hit gun buffs), Garuda, Gauss, Caliban, Lavos, Voruna, Uriel(kinda)

those are closest you can get to nukes

[coral crest]

i dont really recommend to chase the nuke high early on

easily to get caught up

[forest stirrup]

Is there an app like for destiny 2 that I can look at and then see as not home atm

[hexed lodge]

I'm not saying sev is easier or better to understand, just that the heavy-investment is a false myth for low lvl content.
Any warframe can work fine before steel path content

[coral crest]

kinda, theres an official companion app

[carmine dew]

i mean what does sevagoth do without all his set-up

his 1+2 nuke is bad without density, his 3 base slow is very low, and he has (icl) the worst exalted in the game

[coral crest]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wyd-cat-scratching-cat-scratch-cleaning-screen-gif-15994084353171838166

[carmine dew]

that needs to be forma'd twice because it's gangster like that

[coral crest]

Oh and Xaku if death by thousand cuts counts as a "nuke"

[carmine dew]

would imo just recommend playing whatever your starter frame was for the main quests

or umbra

[coral crest]

yeah, you really just better to stick to something comfy

instead of NUKES 9999 INSANE OP

[hexed lodge]

Second this~

[coral crest]

in fact you arent really gonna get a lot out of nukes in early game

because they dont get anything to scale off of

[grim quartz]

does anyone have a good wisp build they could show me?

[coral crest]

when vial rush already kills enemies

[mossy juniper]

way to get prime resurgence theme song? its 🔥

[forest stirrup]

I got ash, banshee, chrome, ember, Excalibur, frost, gauss, hydro,Loki, mag,Nekros, Oberon, oraxia, sevagoth, Volt , wukong and wukong prime and zephyr

[hexed lodge]

Chroma, Excalibur, Gauss, Oberon and Wukong are pretty easy to use for general story quests and before high lvl content.

[thick cape]

all of them can be used anywhere, just depends on what you like, sevagoth nekros and banshee will be hard to make good without later game stuff tho

[crisp pine]

does anyone know if overguard works with arcane persistance?

[torpid osprey]

Has anyone been trying Gotva Prime with Primary Debilitate? I've done some testing but can't say for sure if it's better

[coral crest]

You can stack it, it won't interact with the arcane in any way

[crisp pine]

okay I would think it would work but the wording of arcane is super deceptive

so i will take it off my dante QwQ

[crisp merlin]

How should I go about making zephyr a crit weapons platform for the grimoire?

I'd assume maximizing her efficiency with being airborne and making her tanky in the air, but what else?

[novel bear]

Efficiency’s not too important, she’s not super energy intensive

Range and duration are the most important

[coral crest]

Fixed Primary Bulwark's bonus applying to all weapons, instead of only your Primary

[novel bear]

Ah well

[coral crest]

Sabuuchi just released a video. Rip lol

[novel bear]

Knew it was coming

[dire zenith]

Is diriga or panzer better for synth decon+primer?

[novel bear]

Wasn’t great even with that

[coral crest]

Literally 2h ago

Its a nice niche way to get base dmg on weapons if you are a high armor caster

Without needing to stack arcanes

[hexed lodge]

Diriga is more consistent, but having panzer allows you to have the Resourceful retriever access

[crisp merlin]

Aye aye! I'm still debating between her, Ivara, and Mesa to capitalize on the grimoire

[lapis plank]

can someone give me the best gauss prime build?

[torpid osprey]

Helstrum or Vulklok to prime Viral with my Dethcube?

[crisp pine]

Does anyone know any defensive layer to apply to dante in addition to its overguard to make it EXTRA safe?

[lapis plank]

or can someone say if this is ass or badass?

[coral crest]

You get iframes when using 2(3? Which one is the OG one), so you're already kind of extra safe

If you want extra extra safe, you can consider running augur mods/brief respite or recharge delay for his shields

But that would be overkill imo

[dire zenith]

Maybe rolling guard to give you some breathing room from everything in case you need it. It's just not available that often as a survivability skill

[coral crest]

Yeah OG already gives status immunity

[dire zenith]

But the I-frames

[crisp pine]

the 2 and 4 give iframes.

@coral crest I was hoping I could turn dante into overguard tank with arcane persistance but it does not work with it QwQ

[crisp merlin]

How well would fist weapons work on Hyldrin? I'm considering getting her prime from the resurgence and think she would be cool punching things

[coral crest]

Not like he needs extra survivability

Scaling it with cast speed like temple

[torpid osprey]

Constantly recasting your OG should suffice tbh

[novel bear]

It means not using 2 of her abilities

[hexed lodge]

This is a niche strat, but Roar with 3rd augment makes it recastable, knocks down enemies and gives them puncture status which reduce incoming damage to your overguard

[quiet laurel]

ability DR applies to OG so maybe smth like eclipse or null star

[coral crest]

Or... Omamori lol

[crisp merlin]

Which ones? I was considering subsuming one out for omamori charms

[novel bear]

1 and 4

[torpid osprey]

Maybe CC them with something that applies Cold or Radiation to give time to recast the OG?

[crisp pine]

currently i running the mushroom's man ability for the SWEET SWEET infininte energy fountain

funny enough i can maintain the iframe by repeative casting it like a lot lmao

[crisp merlin]

4 it is then. I wanna make her beefy 💪🏿💪🏿

[crisp pine]

i might try that on another build then hmmm

[cursive hedge]

Anybody know a good naturak build (No galvanised or prime moods TvT)

[oblique dust]

Serration, split chamber, point strike, vital sense, cold + toxin for viral, heat, any then flex mod ( vigilante armament, hammer shot if you have it, vile acceleration if you have that)

Also has anyone figured out if Violence nullify arcane persistence?

[cursive hedge]

I don't think i have any those tbh TvT

Have serration, point strike, vigilante armanments (but can't use it),

Don't have split chamber, hammer shot, vile acceleration, vital sense

[hexed lodge]

Do you have at least a toxin and/or cold mod?

[quiet laurel]

try to get split chamber

very important mod for a while

until you can get galvanized chamber

[cursive hedge]

Where do i get it lol

[cursive hedge]

I think I do

[quiet laurel]

check codex

[hexed lodge]

Just slap Serration + Point Strike + a toxin mod + a cold mod and focus on upgrading those mods, but I agree splitchamber is important too

[crisp merlin]

How's Syam for Wrathful Advance?

[coral crest]

Good

[cursive hedge]

Alr, I'll try get split chamber lol

[midnight horizon]

Hello guys, im new, i need some help, im trying to build uriel as a mr5 beginner, bought him and gonna use him to take me through most of starchart, dont ask why i bought him just know i gots the cash, anyways yeah some help making a sweet build will be great please

[crisp merlin]

I'd imagine I would build it for crit chance/DMG?

[midnight horizon]

I have no clue how to do that, i just auto install everything lol, but by looking at what i have there id like some info on what to change

[crisp merlin]

Oh, sorry. I was continuing off of syam earlier

[charred willow]

is this good enough or should i continue rolling

[quiet laurel]

negative kills the riven

[charred willow]

oof

thanks

[hexed lodge]

How does neg status duration affect toxocyst? If it's for priming, you could outsource it

[quiet laurel]

I mean you mod it for corrosive a lot of the time and not getting the strip from those corrosive procs is a pretty big dps loss

[hexed lodge]

Fair, i never modded it for status cause crit dmg alone is high enough already lol

[golden plank]

if you put this on your Archgun, it will still work. it's a crazy stat stick for high armor warframe lmao

[coral crest]

Statuses run out before they can do anything. This puts something like corrosive duration to less than 10th of a second

[quiet laurel]

it'll probs one shot SP regardless but the riven itself isnt great

[hexed lodge]

Aight thx, i will see how a status toxocyst build works~

[quiet laurel]

you dont build it for status

but an element is part of the build

[charred willow]

how does negative projectile speed benefit the toxocyst?

[quiet laurel]

doesnt affect it

[coral crest]

Honestly this isn't about dual tox. You're just disabling any status with such high negative duration

Unless you can land bullets fast enough to cash in on uhh

Let me check

0.032s of corrosive

Or 0.024s of heat

[wind fox]

microburns

[torpid oar]

should i do thsi build for wisp and subsume her 4th with nourish or roar?

[charred willow]

out of kuva

[velvet pulsar]

Oof

[charred willow]

ill keep using this until i roll the above one to be better

[velvet pulsar]

U got 2 rivens

[charred willow]

yea

[carmine dew]

213 rolls sheesh

[velvet pulsar]

And the lower rolls one seems better

[charred willow]

such is luck

[carmine dew]

-punc is a bit rough

[velvet pulsar]

Such is luck.

0 rolls

[charred willow]

luck

😔

[velvet pulsar]

But this was since before its incarnon was announced

So it's also about patience

[oblique dust]

I’m surprise they still haven’t nerf the riven despo for so many incarnons, still crazy value for how good they are

[crisp merlin]

Any recommendations on building a Syam to spam heavy attacks with?

[hoary roost]

anyone know whether okina incarnon's spectral daggers synergize with mirage hall of mirrors?

[vapid pivot]

It’s quite difficult to get separate electric dmg in torid

[vapid pivot]

Nvm i got it lol

[quiet laurel]

DE doesnt care about balance anymore and so the whole concept of rivens has been abandoned
riven disposition only increases and doesnt decrease anymore
also makes sense cause rivens make DE some good money

[dire void]

question, does condition overload apply when the melee first hit the target with 0 status?

[wild rune]

fairly certain all condition overload effects run their damage calculations before applying any status effects to the target, so no, it would not apply to the initial hit

[hexed lodge]

Which warframe are you using? Could use Crescendo to abuse Syam heavy spam

[dire void]

thx

[mystic marsh]

what melee should I use for a mostly single target tennokai playstyle?

[dire void]

dex nikana probably

its heavy attack though

[severe bough]

Mag progi on uriel sobek i assume? Since cold (or elc ) always combine i think mag would be the onlx option here

Lmao uriel gets sobek'd

[kind void]

Anyone else think it’s hilarious how hard DE is trying to hide from the forums?

[severe bough]

I mean

Thats just De ig

[kind void]

They usually do pretty well but I mean with how much everyone hated the nerf they have to respond

Its almost half the feedback right now

If they don’t at least mention it then it will cause massive issues later on

[pure idol]

Is there a singular "best" AoE weapon?

[fervent rapids]

no

[pure idol]

What are the best options, then?

[mystic marsh]

? I havent been following, what nerf?

[dire void]

glaives with influence maybe

[reef leaf]

Uriel: Archon or Umbral Intensify?

[crisp merlin]

I'm using Ash

[fervent rapids]

Archon, since it now procs on your devils being healed too

[kind void]

Arcane persistence

[fallow shale]

What Focus school is best for Valkyr?

[novel bear]

Naramon

[kind void]

Melee is always naramon

[minor totem]

My bloodrush and weeping wounds aren't increasing according to my combo, even though I have 12, they're still at 1x. Does anyone know why?

[kind void]

Are you sure?

Send an image of your active buffs and what weapon you are using

[hollow yew]

Can I do I crit build with the kestrel prime?

[minor totem]

my bloodrush, weeping wounds and gladiator are at 1x. I'm using the iron staff

[mighty flare]

hybrid, but yeah

[open citrus]

hi, got this for temporal archimedia, whitch one should i build and how ?

[full girder]

How is this valykr build

[uneven field]

for my vinquibus, should I use galvanized scope or serration in the top left spot

[mighty flare]

basso is easier to manage

[full girder]

Is there a way to improve the build

[mighty flare]

should swap to viral heat instead of blast
only need 1 crit chance mod with acuity, crit delay is easier to manage

[uneven field]

so, remove scope, change to heat?

[mighty flare]

yea

[mighty flare]

what i do
https://overframe.gg/build/935951/vinquibus/vinquibus-viralheat-variations/

[uneven field]

serration is alright i take it, idk what to put in it's spot?

[open citrus]

ok, thanks, going to look into how you mod it

[kind void]

What weapon is that? Different language

I would assume it’s one of the new ones and it’s unique effect is making it bugged

[uneven field]

how's the melee set up

i honestly don't know what to change i think it's okay

[kind void]

Oh it’s the iron staff

Hmm it might be a ui bug?

Not really sure

[mighty flare]

swap to influence or use puncture mod if commited to doughty
use reach over pressure point and weeping wounds over organ shatter

[novel bear]

Higher range, take out narrow minded, replace with overextended

[uneven field]

idk what influence means, and is this what you mean?

[mighty flare]

melee influence, an arcane

[fervent rapids]

Melee Influence is an Arcane

[uneven field]

i don't think i have it hold on

i have 1

so this setup is good? then, just influence over doughty

[mighty flare]

preferably shocking touch over voltaic strike, and yeah its good

[uneven field]

im only just getting good at making builds

alright, where can I get 20 more melee influence mods?

[glass olive]

Hi guys,
here my Gyre Prime build (over 412% power strenght). A real nuke build.
https://overframe.gg/build/936494/gyre-prime/gyre-daughter-of-zeus-over-412-power-strenght/

Let's check it and let me know!

[proud anchor]

Bird 3

[uneven field]

curse my neglecting of standing

[novel bear]

Most melees can just use crabsweat, which is
Condition Overload
Reach (Primed)
Attack Speed
Blood Rush
Steel
Weeping Wounds
Electric
Anti Faction (or Elementalist)
Tennokai

[uneven field]

now i gotta do cavia crap for the next month

[copper topaz]

Anyone got that picture of the different weapons and how to mod them ? Idk if it's still relevant or not

[kind void]

Hey how well do you know exalted weapons?

[minor totem]

its the iron staff of wukong

[strong marsh]

thoughts on riven

[near vortex]

wtf is that build

Viral mag with primary blight

Is that Saryn or something

[strong marsh]

yes

)

[hollow yew]

hybrid?

[mighty flare]

yo

[mighty flare]

you build for both crits and status

[crisp merlin]

What melee weapon would pair well with Hildryn? I'm mostly using her 2+3 with the augment for her 2

[drowsy mauve]

I would say a something related to shields?

Im not too sure if there’s a melee like that tho

[crisp merlin]

Well, there's melee arcanes but idk about melee weapons themselves

[drowsy mauve]

I just go with whatever weapon fits her appearance the most
So something like sword and shield melees could work

[crisp merlin]

True. I'll check out sparring weapons so I can pair it with the wolf emphemera

[lavish spire]

need help picking a riven, which do you guys think is more ideal

[nova swift]

Furax for amalgam mod. Okina prime for 30% movespeed or ruvox for 55% at max combo

[crisp merlin]

Oo just base Furax?

[nova swift]

Any furax. You want the amalgam body count for 60 fire rate but the wraith with incarnon is preferred

[hollow yew]

@kind void I ty

[woven mesa]

I just got a Despair riven and want to know what I should roll for. Idk what is best with the incarnon form

[next cove]

can anyone share a good Profit Taker Build? i thought i had a good one but I'm still dying sometimes and the damage is also not very pleasing, so if anyone could help me out that would be highly appreciated

[midnight horizon]

Anybody got mods to sell? Tryna build a strong Uriel as a mr5 baby tenno, just show me what good mods u have and what u suggest...i gots the platinum, can buy quite a bit

[wild rune]

my brain finally realized that Uriel's Brimstone's resource gauge is mostly dictated by his demons' abilities, not his own

[drowsy mauve]

His three also charges it

[wild rune]

weakly, but yes

that's why I said mostly

most of the charge comes from Gulphagor and Vythelas's runes

[drowsy mauve]

Yee but you can spam it and it’ll charge faster than waiting for your demons to activate their abilities on enemies

So ig it’s like Baruuk where
He can charge it passively or try and charge it faster

[wild rune]

for a while I thought eximus kills is what gave the random chunk of resource
now I know it's Gulphagor being a face hugger

[drowsy mauve]

We love our hell spawns <3

[wild rune]

little carnage guys

[fervent rapids]

I love Vythelas' little Voidtongue chants. Reminds me of the Gruzzlings

[narrow knoll]

is this good like this ?

[umbral socket]

I’m a bit iffy on if this looks good or not for a high damage nuke nova build

[narrow knoll]

can nova even nuke? i jsut use her for support (slow, dmg red, mobility etc...)

[umbral socket]

yes she can I nuke a lot of enemies

[fervent rapids]

yes

[narrow knoll]

with the flying ball thing?

[fervent rapids]

Molecular Prime and Antimatter Shot, yeah

[narrow knoll]

shouldnt u build full strenght and range then?

[fervent rapids]

Nova wants Duration more than Range

[umbral socket]

her abilities will last longer

[fervent rapids]

Range affects Molecular Prime's base radius, while Duration affects how long it expands for

[narrow knoll]

range for explosive ball range no?

[umbral socket]

I don’t really need the range for her ball cuz I just charge it up and launch it into a group of enemies

[mighty flare]

Can’t use duplicates, use exposure

[narrow knoll]

oh i though u wanted full area nuke

[narrow knoll]

what u mean?

[umbral socket]

No I am referring to high damage nuke groups of enemies on nova

[mighty flare]

Read what melee duplicates does

[narrow knoll]

2x strikes on crit?

[abstract axle]

only on yellow crits

[mighty flare]

No, just yellow crits, which Valkyr goes over

[narrow knoll]

what fr???

[fervent rapids]

just on yellow crits. Anything above 100% crit chance gets you orange crits

[fervent rapids]

"On base critical hits"

Base is yellow, big is orange, super is red

[narrow knoll]

y i had no idea what that was XD

[narrow knoll]

ok thx..other than that is good?

[abstract axle]

sacrificial steel and blood rush is a whiff imo, why not organ shatter?

[fervent rapids]

yeah it's why Duplicate isn't really used much, cause so many things affect crit chance that it's hard to stay within its range

[narrow knoll]

organ shater is in

amalgam

[fervent rapids]

Amalgam Organ Shatter is a variant of the mod Organ Shatter

ah wait

misread what you meant

[slender vector]

What arcanes are good on hydroid?

[kind void]

Sorry only just saw this. Was wondering how well you know the exalted weapons cause of the post about wukong staff. Seems it shaving issues with acolyte mods?

[narrow knoll]

is reach or priemd reach worth it to replace one of those mods?

[abstract axle]

oh u right. what about faction?

[abstract axle]

how much range do you have on valkyr?

[narrow knoll]

base melle range

[narrow knoll]

ability = 40% range

[fervent rapids]

40% or 140%

[slender vector]

?

[narrow knoll]

40%

guess i do need prime organ shatter

[abstract axle]

depending on what you do with him, I like reaper

[neat harbor]

@latent adder is the +corro stack shard really necessary on temple when applying alll the stacks with lizzie is painful anyway, all those heat procs are gonna kill any armored enemy anyway no?

[latent adder]

Nah probably not

Just go status chance shards

[neat harbor]

nice thy

[maiden oracle]

Any idea why it doesn't wanna stack here?

The set bonus I mean

[lyric thistle]

Hey umm anyone have a good wukong build

for his iron staff

[lavish egret]

Coming back after a years-long hiatus.. any tips on what to focus on to make the best Rhino Prime build?

[remote relic]

Anyone have a nautilus prime build a ican use

[mighty flare]

Shaving? I’m not really sure what you’re asking

[worthy ruin]

Anything I should change and what archon shards should I use?

[fervent rapids]

Archon Intensify now procs when you heal your Demons, so I'd use that over Umbral

[worthy ruin]

Alr ill have to get it

[undone dust]

i assume they mean having

"its having issues"

[severe bough]

Meat do u got a idea for uriel sobek? More likely u got a idea on which progi since cold combines to blast but im not sure it thats the go there i assumed mag mabye

[undone dust]

i would assume mag or tox/cold for viral

[severe bough]

Problem then u need to slot in 2 elemental mods instead of just 1

If got tox/cold progi

[undone dust]

well it is more damage

[severe bough]

Depends what were dropping for but i assume it doesnt even make a real diff cuz its busted anyways

[undone dust]

ninjase has one for uriel already and it doesnt seem bad

https://overframe.gg/build/934931/kuva-sobek/uriels-arsenal-kuva-sobek-demonium-heat-acid-shells/

[severe bough]

Ik

[severe bough]

But with cold progi i need both tox and cold mod so it doesnt end up being blast lmao dont wanna change the sobek progi

Mabye just getting a second sobek

[queen parcel]

how can i get better energy regen on valk? i have the energy on health damage but...i kill everything too quick for them to hurt me

...actually does nourish stack on using combat disipline with the energy on health damage?

[severe bough]

builds are the same as ninjase execpt cold progi and changed blaze and elementalist for toxic barrage and pcg
I might test out how blast works cuz i got nourish anyways. or i go with both primed mods for mag heat

Or i just change progi

[severe bough]

Normally equilibrium should do the job easily if your running nourish on top of that u should be more than good

[queen parcel]

i dont have room for equilibrium

[severe bough]

What your using

[mighty flare]

blast isnt useful
its usually just mag progen then mod for pure heat & use nourish

[severe bough]

AHHH i need a second sobek

Just tested it out blast is bonkers

Anyways smth to do

[bronze coral]

been struggling hard on solo sp prime vanguard/dactolyst, and idk where to go from here. the guys just destroy me and I barely do damage to them, am mostly using wisp and nova; does anyone have any strong crit single target weapon recommendations in general? i use trumna and nataruk normally but for these missions I'm forced into melee spamming otherwise I do 0 dmg

[severe bough]

Persis triumbra valkyr in big 2025🥀

But tbf u shouldnt have any energy problems if u take enough dmg

[coral crest]

What's wrong

[mighty flare]

use whatever youd want in open slots, prob want crit

[queen parcel]

that's the problem...i kill them too fast for me to take damage from them

[coral crest]

She's got 1000(1500) armor, it will work. And when it doesn't she's got a backup in her passive

[queen parcel]

so no persistance?

[severe bough]

Clip delg and pravage ? Cc comes through his 3 iirc

[coral crest]

It will function perfectly fine, she just already has a source of survivability from a passive

And people would flay you and hang your corpse on a tree if you have more than one

[mighty flare]

his 3 buffs crit?

[coral crest]

Valkyr Persistence does have a weakness though

[severe bough]

Lmao wait

[coral crest]

She's got no innate status negation

[coral crest]

Uhh it doesn't

[severe bough]

Nvm it doesn buff anything execpt fire rate and gives heat lash but using hotshot will buff cc

[coral crest]

It just gives dmg vuln

And passive gives fire rate and heat

[queen parcel]

????????

her 4 makes her immune to status?

[coral crest]

Oh shit I forgot about that

Yeah then it will work with no issues

Sorry

[queen parcel]

so should i do persistance with flow or battery with equilibrium?

[severe bough]

But keeping up hotshot is pain (sometimes) im not sure mabye clip delg and crit decl and get cd somewhere else

Im just testing around when i got the second sobek

I genuinely didnt done a kuva lich for more than a year 🥀

[mighty flare]

Oh since fire rate you don’t need the mod or arcane tempo

Does it scales with strength?

[severe bough]

iirc it should scale with str i just looked at him one second but dont remember lmao

[stray yoke]

I think I may have slightly exaggerated on this... ignored all survivability for an insane range long duration killing field. Mostly for below lvl 200 defenses and stuff

this gives Brimstone a 40m range

and with concentration a 24s duration

[crimson osprey]

Hey guys, so im a new lover of ash, i love the frame, skills and shit, but i also like running around sliving diving and shooting. trouble is ASh is pretty frail

So my question is; is there a sentinel or pet which i use use to boost my armor/survival?

[stray yoke]

invisibility

[crimson osprey]

so im not so frail if i wanna run around slicing and dicing

[stray yoke]

make sure you are always invisible

[crimson osprey]

no invisibility.

[stray yoke]

?

[crimson osprey]

im looking BEYOND that, ash himself can go invis, so i apolgize, but siggesting invis is unnecessary

[stray yoke]

No I mean that's literally it, invisibility is ash's survivability

[stray yoke]

it always has been

[golden rose]

Which one should I get

[stray yoke]

You don't need any survivability on ash nor should you ever if you are always invisible, ao building survivability on him in any kind of way is very redundant

[acoustic bluff]

Invis + shield gate

Catalyzing shields with augur mods, if you want more survivability you can also run arcane aegis

Or if you wanna lazy gate, vigilante vigor + fast deflection + Catalyzing + arcane Aegis

[crimson osprey]

okay, so im gonna try the kavat

im not looking to be dissuaded from it

i was loking for potential options on patching the ash weakness

the vampire kavat seems to do the trick somewhat. thanks guys

if i get ff and go down i immediately come back up thanks to the kavat.

[acoustic bluff]

@crimson osprey ?

[crimson osprey]

Didnt see that one- currently runningf the crepsular+arcane fury

[acoustic bluff]

Easiest way to survive in the game

[vestal oak]

What is the best companion to farm recourses and a good build for what ever it is

[outer quarry]

Should i use Obex or the Kogake

[sharp shadow]

I’m pretty new to the game, and wanted to know what a good build for either Mag or Rhino would be.

[coral arch]

i have a question reguarding primary arcanes...i don't know the extent of the different primary arcanes we have available, so for the case of the ||latron prime incarnon form|| is there a specific one that works really well with it or would the general purpose arcanes from steel path be best for it?

[fathom sky]

Latron Prime Inc, nothing special yeah

[coral arch]

fair enough then, thank you

[stray yoke]

deadhead is pretty good ig, you could build for crux but there really isn;t all that much of a point I don't think

[lyric thistle]

I wish i was doing that damage 😭🙏🏼

[stray yoke]

Latron prime incarnon is pretty much a monster before arcanes, so they only really just push it further

[lyric thistle]

Help my wukong isnt wukonging i think i broke him after polarizing him 😭🙏🏼

[coral arch]

yea, that is what i guessed, i mostly was using merciless because the bouncing projectiles really help to proc it...and im not really using the normal mode to get kills, but to quickly charge up the alt form...thanks for the input though.

[stray yoke]

Normal mode is very good as well imo

I use both normal and incarnon pretty much the same amount

[coral arch]

yea i know...i am just putting more emphasis in the incarnon form for my personal preference

[stray yoke]

I see

suggestion if you want something funny with the incarnon

use Xata's whisper

[coral arch]

i will give it a shot, thank you

[spiral chasm]

idt u should focus on a min-maxed build rn

[woeful mist]

what should i put in the missing slots?

[lyric thistle]

Turns out umm dragon keys nerf me alot

all this time it was a dragon key that made my damage so useless

[spiral chasm]

oh god a classic

[proud anchor]

Why arcane barrier?

[rancid mirage]

So this is my current hydroid build. (In game screenshot)

And this is new build using arcane from new update. (Over frame screenshot)

For archon shards, I currently have 2 casting, 1 energy max, and 2 equilibrium shards

I am posting here bc I haven't grinded new arcane so Idrk how this build that I completely made it up in my head will work, and also I am a bit hesitant about putting two umbral formas into hydroid.

• what would be a good second arcane?

thanks for any advices in advance.

[woeful mist]

still grinding the proper arcanes

[proud anchor]

Ah I see

I would get his recompense augment

[woeful mist]

what about for the missing augment slots ? i would put some forma mod but im out umbra forma

[proud anchor]

Id look into getting an aura mod before using more forma since thats what's missing on your build

[woeful mist]

hmm i dont think i need aura mod

[rancid mirage]

i think steel charge would be a best option for kullervo

you already have the correct polarity

[proud anchor]

One umbral forma is all that is really needed for most frames.

[rancid mirage]

aura mod increases ur mod space so u would like one

[woeful mist]

oh shit

[rancid mirage]

i want to make health tank set up and apprently new arcane applies damage/sec cap after dr so having more hp and while meeting min armor requirement would be ideal

and umbral set all boost each other so having all 3 umbral would be best

but idrk if this is like worth it since idk if i want to make the investment before getting confirmation from others who might have went down w it

[proud anchor]

You'd be better off with arcane blessing to give you more health since you'll get 1200 extra health.
For armor you could replace umbral fiber for the health conversion mod to give you 1350 armor

[fresh surge]

bariet is useless o him

[violet silo]

if I mod heat onto the toxocyst will the gas keep frenzy active?

[woeful mist]

i dont have bariet

[ruby tusk]

Anything this is missing on this? I feel like it's under-performing (other than amalgam organ shatter over gladiator might)
Riven is CC CD & elec

[fresh surge]

barrier*

[proud anchor]

I think youre missing a base damage mod in there

[violet silo]

and if so does it also affect crosshair or similar mods?

[rancid mirage]

I be back later with some comparison math cus i kinda have to step out for now cya later

[proud anchor]

Later 👋

[rancid mirage]

I think I gotta do some math since hyroid armor gen scales with his str and idk if extra str vs health conversion is better or not

and the umbral armor and hp bonus from having al 3 vs 2 etc

aaand before i go there is mod in eta that prevents hp orbs from being picked up so idrk how would that work w hp conversion mod

[mighty flare]

persistence doesnt work well on hydroid without blessing because he has somewhat low health (low enough that health% arent good)
dont need sure footed if using tidal impunity cuz it provides status immunity

hydroid has huge armor steroid, so dont care about armor mods

[rancid mirage]

I included sure footed cus I did use hydroid without them but it was pretty uncomfortable and when my ability gets turned off by different stuff, I was kinda screwed. Also I will go farm arcane blessing (I didn’t like stacking arcanes but it seems like I should give a try before dismissing it)

[limber vale]

Sorry if this is long Alright, I am trying to farm the event. I’m playing Uriel and kinda have a build. I’m also using the vanquibis and enjoy it and it seems to be fine in the non steel path but if anyone has a build that would be great, I also need a better archgun build. I’m using mausolon but would Kuva Grattler be better?

[signal dragon]

How good is this?

[earnest nexus]

anyone noticed if Secondary irradiate works with the kompressa? i guess it would make sense to only apply to the initial damage not the radial :/

[modern bobcat]

I've went with a pure guts themed build on voruna but need tips in surviving early mission since I get cooked without having all my combo stacks and abilities built up since basically a minute in im usually fine but its just starting im basically very weak

[rancid mirage]

also i dont think hp conversion will work cus arcane persistence removes shield and your hp will get hit constantly.

[fluid vigil]

Yo can i get this build Forgot to ask b4

[fathom ravine]

I posted the build below in multi pics

It is weird build and nowhere best expect in very specific situations 😄

Like corridor camping

[fluid vigil]

Ahh alr thx

[tulip merlin]

Finally finished my battleaxe build.

[eager charm]

Very late but tenet agendus with final harbinger stance feels amazing, very fast moveset and really nice damage, especially if electric with melee influence

[fathom ravine]

@fluid vigil

[valid cargo]

Is this a good build for Gyre?

[fluid vigil]

Thanks

[fathom ravine]

Also all purple shards for electric buff

And survivability depends on you jumping...u never stop jumping

[queen parcel]

what's a good subsume for rhino? i already have a vulp so nourish is kinda pointless

[eager charm]

Rhino is probably the most flexible subsume user next to Hildryn so literally anything you want

If you want damage buff, tharros strike + augment obliterates single target, breach surge is good for aoe, wrathful for melee, fireball frenzy/shock trooper for elements

Can also subsume pyrotechnics or null star for aoe damage, reave/smite for % hp nuking, or utility stuff like infested mobility, parasitic armor for iron shrapnel dps, etc.c etc etc

My fave is nourish over 1 just for the energy regen, I run it with energy nexus and never have to worry about energy ever and it's really nice

[eager charm]

Late but Voruna's survivability isn't great unless she's staying cloaked by dpsing with her 2 or 4, you may want to use shield gate mods like brief respite and catalyzing shields to help stay alive

[cyan thicket]

help which one would be better

[valid cargo]

@urban sorrel im following this build

https://overframe.gg/build/717504/nautilus-prime/the-whirlpool-general-nautilus-grouping-priming-fire-rate-buff-shield-regen/

[urban sorrel]

No attacking mod.. so it wont use it's weapon, i believe this build is supposed to simply spread status not use the weapon to attack

[valid cargo]

Oh thanks

[outer mauve]

Is there a good ivara prime build that uses all 3 of her augment mods? I wanna build that focuses on staying invisible and using her exalted bow

[vague rock]

Does anyone here have a build for Eleanor that doesn't involve that 1 mod that make her immortal but she gets no movement

[icy nacelle]

Okay, I unlocked all the incarnon slots for the Laetum.

What options are the best standouts for a harrow gun-platform build?

[old marsh]

high str high dur nuke using 4. use 1 for free dps, 2&3 for cc and armor strip

u can not use narrow minded for quicker nukes. put in some other mod of your choice. like augur reach

main reason u want really high dur is so u can accumulate more dmg and u also get weapon buff after the nuke

[vague rock]

Where do I get the archon mods

And can this survive steel path

[old marsh]

Veil breaker quest. Use normal ones for now

[old marsh]

ye. If u r struggling with energy drop blind rage for anything else. Like augur secrets

[vague rock]

How do you tank with that

[old marsh]

check her 2. u will understand

she steals everything. armor, shields, overguard

https://tenor.com/view/mine-now-steal-take-grab-mine-gif-13196166

[vague rock]

Question doesn't it only take 1 at a time

[old marsh]

uhh ye. only Hildryn can do AOE shield/OG stealing i think. rest have it 1 per enemy. but once u kill that enemy, it keeps chaining so it keeps on going

[vague rock]

And why not use the mod that sends out 3 more

[old marsh]

not enough space. u can slot in place of blind rage or narrow minded. your choice.

[vague rock]

What is ur shards

[old marsh]

casting speed & parkour speed.

those r crucial for her

[vague rock]

Why

[versed inlet]

how can I improve or finish off my torid incarnon build? :>

[old marsh]

coz she has slow casts and i need parkor speed for assimilate. gotta realize we cant have shard presets. i wish we did but we cant

u can use an orange one for her 3 if u want. but its like "lemme put those rad stacks on an enemy and then lemme nuke it so i can benefit from it". meanwhile nuke just evaporates even your acolytes

[fierce lark]

evensong isn't particularly impressive right

[versed inlet]

really can't figure out a final mod to add to it. I could just add Serration, but I feel like that might be a waste. Should I lean more into status instead? I was going for a crit based build 🦦

[old marsh]

we would suggest but u r asking for torid but showing pic of boltor

not sure what to suggest

[versed inlet]

Oml

Boltor lol*

I was at work all day ^^"

[maiden oracle]

Hey Saryn
How's this looking now

[old marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-its-okay-pet-gif-10242949

[versed inlet]

How can I improve or finish off my bolter incarnon build? :>

[fierce lark]

laetum uriel is not it lmao

perma staggered from shots bouncing off my demons

[old marsh]

u dont want shred for boltor. and u have 3 sources of base dmg. merciless, aptitude and riven. use crux for ammo efficiency and more status. also remove shred. use vile acceleration. on final slot use something like magnetic/heat. atleast 1 element so u can get more dmg out of aptitude

[proud anchor]

I would add viral+heat on that. You really dont need two sources of crit chance on a weapon

[old marsh]

i didnt suggest viral heat coz of space. and rerolling a riven is expensive

[proud anchor]

They wouldn't have to. Dropping a crit chance mod and vital sense would be enough for that. Rivens just replace existing mods honestly

[fierce lark]

the point of rivens is to clear up space to add more stuff

[livid gale]

Whats the best/most powerful tauron strike?

[fierce lark]

i dont think there is one, and honestly it's too early to tell anyway

[pure reef]

Melee Careen on Kestrel Prime with a bouncy blast setup. Really funny and quite decent

[proud anchor]

Can't really test them all to well with how buggy charging them is outside of Perita

[fierce lark]

im apparently the only person who just does not want to run galv scope

[versed inlet]

so remove delay/shred and replace with vile?

would modding for corrsosive work best or---?>

I sadly don't have crux qwp

Oh wait no I have five of them lol

[fierce lark]

rank 1 crux probably isn't that good

it gets exponentially better with ranks, the ammo efficiency compounds

although it's a dead stat on the incarnon form

[versed inlet]

so it's just there for the status?

[old marsh]

and ammo efficiency during incarnOFF mode. so u can charge up in 1 mag in case u r unable to hit weakpoints

[old marsh]

keep delay. its solid

[versed inlet]

oh wait I meant Shred LMAO

Sorry, I have OPD brainrot rn lol

[fierce lark]

you're using the punch through evo right?

[old marsh]

ye. replace shred. imho shred shouldnt be used unless its a beam weapon. trying to line up targets gets old

[versed inlet]

base damage and efficiency, reload speed, and crit chance

[fierce lark]

it's not really about lining up targets, punch through is just an extremely large final damage multiplier if your targets happen to line up

[old marsh]

i am using these evos. 3rd evo is flex honestly

[fierce lark]

it's always worth having some if the weapon doesn't come with it innate

[versed inlet]

But I don't always have a channeled ability active

[mighty flare]

yea

[old marsh]

go get some then

[versed inlet]

I'm trying to build my frames but right now Mirage is the only one who can have one on constantly

[versed inlet]

I just finished wisp and can't figure out Ember

[mossy juniper]

Sayrn or Oraxia for my weapon platform?

[granite ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[fierce lark]

saryn

not biased at all promise

[mighty flare]

saryn is much stronger
oraxia if you like extra utility

[granite ginkgo]

saryn can use melee, while oraxia between primary and secondary huhu (4th actived)

[old marsh]

not an Ember main but she is my 5th most played frame. she needs help. if u really wanna play her, put on Roar on her 4 or Gloom on 1. Roar build priortizes on buffing her 1. Gloom build prioritizes on spamming her 4

[fierce lark]

i put roar on her 2 ngl

[mossy juniper]

im wanting sayrn for my boo i made takes out lv 400 in 2 seconds i think she will buff more

[mighty flare]

what weapon is this

[mossy juniper]

tenet glaxion 48% magnetic

[old marsh]

also make sure to use this on your companion with her. helps with efficiency

[mossy juniper]

still need to get the bonds i have no plat and still need lots more standing with demios

[mighty flare]

last slots be whatever you want, a bane is good but if saryn she runs roar so dont rlly need it

• if you have toxin dmg shards, can drop rifle elementalist
• combustion beam is temu acid shells
• dont mod for corrosive when using saryn, she gets that from her 1 augment

[midnight horizon]

Anybody got an extra arcane camisado they can sell me?

[fickle willow]

What’s the better weapon for killing insanely tanky people/crowds,

torid, tenet glaxion, or burston?

I have a glaxion riven I could use but not the others

[mighty flare]

crowds: torid incarnon
single target: burston

[mossy juniper]

no a fan of torid

the charge on the incarn is just too long

imo