builds-discussion

[midnight horizon]

Something about their combo math breaking

[fathom ravine]

not even maxed out 😄 does the job well

[fluid vigil]

Any primary or secondary yall would recommend this is my acceltra prime build but its not doing much

[near vortex]

What is that, pure viral?

[fathom ravine]

i would swap galvanized aptitude out from accelertra..its addative not multiplicative

[near vortex]

The first issue I see is three base damage mods

[fluid vigil]

With what?

[fathom ravine]

like 60% status mod

[fierce lark]

primed firestorm probably

[fathom ravine]

that too

or just hunter munition if u play for crits

[near vortex]

hellfire would be good

[fierce lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VsEoCYhZmmPNgfqQksMnZFSFiTWaXDavulsghO-_QNE/edit?gid=883121879#gid=883121879

[fathom ravine]

mine basicaly revolves around CC so hunters munition been good little boi

[fierce lark]

this is a nice document for deciding to run aptitude + damage arcane

typically weapons that have an explosive do not apply the damage bonus from condition overload-type mods on the explosion itself

[near vortex]

Can also slot a bane ig

[fathom ravine]

its just bothersome if u want variety weapon for basic starchart, or sp content

dont really need banes

[near vortex]

some people might not mind swapping

[fierce lark]

id rather a rof mod over a bane anyways, unless you're already running reinforced bond companion

[fathom ravine]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Condition_Overload_(Mechanic) also good site to see if galvanized aptitude is worth for weapon. look at the "multiplicative" on weapon not addative

its like magic on some weapnos but in some its waste of space when addative

[fathom ravine]

Serration is waste with mersiless...u only need one damage mod/arcane per build

[fluid vigil]

Where do u get

[fierce lark]

zariman

it's one of the earlier base incarnons you can unlock

[fierce lark]

disagree with this, if you have flex slots, serration is good to help you get your damage arcane stacked

amalgam serration in particular has good qol on top of that

[fluid vigil]

Replace with?

[fathom ravine]

But ROF would help acceletra more

Or hammer shot pumping cd and status up to proc status more often if running frame/or frame arcane that already can buff firerate

[fierce lark]

i would probably slot hammer shot or magnetic might somewhere anyways since there's 2 cc mods

but i have mixed feelings about galv scope in general

[fluid vigil]

Mainly running protea

[fathom ravine]

Its good mod if u take ur time but that also can be swapped to riven etc to keep cc over 100% for munition

[near vortex]

Yeah might be worth taking off galv scope
Or if you want to lean into headshots, deadhead exists

[fierce lark]

he's not using hm

and i think in general hm is inferior to alternatives nowadays, id rather just slot a heat or elec mod

[near vortex]

Have you gotten the new Duration arcane yet?

With how much Protea casts it's probably always up and stronger then Molt efficiency

[fluid vigil]

I just came back to game so ian even know

[fierce lark]

it was better when steel path grineer had so much armor that you needed full strip or slash to do damage

[fathom ravine]

Its been so long i mained acceletra ...Trumna Prime took its place for me so that was my old build 😂 it still does the job but not optimal

[urban ice]

whats the meta for melee rn

[near vortex]

praedos

[fluid vigil]

I do also have trumna prime been using acceltra cause i liked aoe

[fathom ravine]

Trumna also has aoe

Also that big boom is nice

[near vortex]

Kuva Zarr

[fathom ravine]

Lack of ammo in nutshell

[near vortex]

I'm one Trumna part off Trumna Prime but I can't seem to get it

Same with gus

[fierce lark]

is there even a melee meta lol

i feel like every decent+ melee more or less does the same thing at equal effectiveness for its category

[fluid vigil]

Ill add hammer shot to acceltra for now and might build trumna later

How do i get harmony

[near vortex]

Probably Nami Solo Incarnon or something

Weapon is cracked

[near vortex]

Have you done Jade Shadows yet?

[fathom ravine]

Hate incarnon with burning hate mod slaps too

[near vortex]

I don't have burning hate, sadly

[fluid vigil]

Believe so

[near vortex]

Missed that nightwave

[fluid vigil]

Wait no

[near vortex]

Harmony drops from the node that Jade Shadows unlocks

[fathom ravine]

Ofc hate is so versatile that it can work as stat stick to wisps motes to do so much dmg that it just shows status symbols

[near vortex]

I think people use Hate on the Limbo Neutron Star build for the heat vuln

[fierce lark]

this is probably what i would run on most launcher type weapons, if you dont want bane then swapping it out for vile acceleration if you dont have external fire rate and ammo is not an issue, or serration/magnetic capacity/hammer shot

[near vortex]

cyte fixes ammo

[fluid vigil]

Cant get harmony or that other melee yet maybe hate

[fathom ravine]

basic wisp mote + dogo + burning hate synergy

[fluid vigil]

Hate from relics?

[spiral chasm]

Hate is from stalker

[fierce lark]

of everything ive used im a big fan of all of these

• innodem

[fathom ravine]

"non optimal version"

[spiral chasm]

That is one thing you probably gonna grind for a long time if you're unlucky

[near vortex]

Falcor is pretty cracked

[spiral chasm]

Falcor and xoris influence does go electric

[fluid vigil]

Ahh alr

[fierce lark]

the falcor is so weird

it's really good on its own already, but then it has insanely high riven dispo for w/e reason

[fathom ravine]

Till nerf on the dispo...still waiting that

[spiral chasm]

I doubt they will do that

[sinful bone]

hey, y'all. how would you help this build out? it stomps steel path but is really weak at first until I start ramping up

[spiral chasm]

A lot of the current meta hasnt been nerfed

[fierce lark]

im guessing that's a telos boltor

[sinful bone]

yes

[spiral chasm]

Does it have incarnon?

[sinful bone]

yes

[fierce lark]

this eludes to what i mentioned earlier about serration helping with getting your other damage mods online

[sinful bone]

true, but what would I replace

[fierce lark]

what's on the riven?

[spiral chasm]

Do you have external viral?

Rn ur doing pure heat which is fine

[sinful bone]

183.4% crit damage
72.9% mag cap
-29.7% ammo max

[fierce lark]

interesting

[sinful bone]

yes

[spiral chasm]

But viral does a 3.25x dmg at max stacks

[fierce lark]

do you have reinforced bond or some other form of fire rate?

[spiral chasm]

Yeah you probably need like 3 kills to start melting

[sinful bone]

only fire rate I have is speed trigger

I could probably sub out bladed rounds for serration

[fierce lark]

if you have the option, panzer vulpaphyla with reinforced bond (or wyrm prime) will free up the fire rate slot

[old marsh]

U can replace blades rounds for a heat or magnetic mod,

[fierce lark]

otherwise vile acceleration and shred/primed shred would both be better options

[fluid vigil]

@fierce lark @fathom ravine So add hammer shot to this and it’ll be good for sp?

[fathom ravine]

It does the job..not meta tho

[sinful bone]

I'm using taxon since the boltor and this are fitted for hildryn

[fluid vigil]

Whats considered meta then

[fathom ravine]

Its basically just all rounder basic cc cd build

[fierce lark]

i personally would swap hunter munitions for stormbringer or hellfire and then add hammer shot yeah

and re-order them so you still have viral instead of magnetic or blast

[fathom ravine]

^

[fluid vigil]

Firestorm or hellfire

[fierce lark]

sub bladed rounds for an element

[fierce lark]

hellfire, the heat mod

[deep nebula]

Anyone have any gyre prime builds I could start off with ?

[sinful bone]

definitely not heat since I can armor strip with 2. Toxin?

[fierce lark]

if you wanted to run primed firestorm you'd probably have to forma again

[ornate aurora]

how are you guys so rich .-.

[fierce lark]

play the game for years, currencies go up over time

[fathom ravine]

Thousands of hours mate

[sinful bone]

I think toxin would fit very nicely on this build

[ornate aurora]

how do i farm plat tho?

[deep nebula]

Selling primed mods , mods and primed parts

[fierce lark]

heat is still really good damage, the armor strip is convenience more than anything

electric is better if targets are dying fairly quickly or are frequently grouped together

toxin is for corpus/narmer

[fathom ravine]

Arcanefarm,relic opening, mods

[deep nebula]

Break relics

[ornate aurora]

wdym break relics?

you mean opening them right?

[fathom ravine]

Cracking" is also breaking xD

[deep nebula]

Literally the same lol

[fierce lark]

when you apply a heat proc it adds all current heat damage onto it, in addition to the existing heat procs still ticking, part of the heat inherit mechanic

so it's better single target damage over time than any other element, but electric is better for groups, does its first damage tick instantly, and can hit hitboxes including heads for some reason

[sinful bone]

I forget, do toxin and electric have a cap for stacks? I'm pretty sure heat doesn't

[fierce lark]

no

[spiral chasm]

Flip burgers and buy on 75% off

[sinful bone]

I could do electric because of the ability to hit heads...

[fierce lark]

but electric and toxin don't re-apply all previous stacks the way heat does, so they're less damage over a longer period to 1 target than heat is

if you're doing a non-murmur disruption mission for example, i would choose heat most of the time

as you are frequently fighting 1 target with a lot of hp and no status cap

[sinful bone]

yeah, and I may want heat so that I can start ramping up and get my other dependent mods online

[spiral chasm]

Oh replace deadhead with merciless btw

Unless you kill with the raw dmg on headhsot. Deadhead will not proc

[sinful bone]

I'll try it but deadhead has been putting in its work in sim

[spiral chasm]

You can also slot in galv shot for base dmg. While it is additive. Its still a lot of dmg if u have a companion that primes

[fierce lark]

deadhead is much better than merciless if your gun is able to land headshots

[fathom ravine]

Secondary Irradiate is borked nukor becomes even more of an menace especially when combined with breach surge

[spiral chasm]

Yeah but you need to kill with that headshot no?

If heat kills them the arcane doesnt proc

[fierce lark]

yes, but it's only 3 kills to max it, and the buff lasts for 20 seconds instead of 4

it's pretty unlikely the heat damage itself is going to be what kills your targets most of the time

[novel bear]

Better than enervate though?

[sinful bone]

also boltor inc fire rate is stupid paired with just one fire rate mod

[fathom ravine]

I mean multiple beams, each beam has chance for 7m aoe and in enemy death it spreads the procs to next enemies with 100% chance ...just endless aoe chains

[sinful bone]

anyway I think, for what I wanna achieve with the build, elec MIGHT be better?

[hybrid marsh]

tenet glaxion my beloved

[sinful bone]

because keep in mind this boltor is just for Hildryn and with her I am always going to be doing pillage for strip

both of them seem great but I can't figure out which one is better

they both have very similar TTKs

[mighty flare]

It’s not lol

[sinful bone]

yea enervate best arcane for kuva nukor

[fathom ravine]

Its not but its funny aoe on most content

[sinful bone]

it is

[fathom ravine]

If u are lazy like me xD

Who wants pistol that pretty much acts as chernobyl

[spiral chasm]

If your lazy use slam fr

[fathom ravine]

Only if i had time for dat

[spiral chasm]

Just jump and heavy. Instantly dead

[fathom ravine]

Running around in wisp spin to win dagger build for movement. Pointing at wall and pressing one button to clear is faster

Im lazy...but im fast lazy

With zaw dagger + wisp mote buffing movement speed and attack speed it has become my one and only way of moving in wf 😂 lot of the time faster than titania to end of the map for extract (can also act the helicopter meme)

[spiral chasm]

I hate building zaws cuz fishing etc is not it

[fathom ravine]

I like to be bayblade that goes mach jesus 😏

[sinful bone]

alright I think I figured out the build

[fierce lark]

you could do the old avenger combat disc nukor if you wanted to slot irradiate

for some bullshit fun

[sinful bone]

doing electricity on my boltor and letting my pharaoh predasite Ramses outsource viral and also giving me toxin damage on top. I don't know why, but they don’t combine and that's great. I'm then going to get the fire rate mod for pets and outsource fire rate to him so that I can free up a slot for something funny

[fierce lark]

oh yeah you're playing hildryn

literally any pet can use reinforced bond with link redirect

[sinful bone]

ye

including robotic companions like taxon?

[fierce lark]

reinforced bond is all companions

robotic and biotic

wyrm is a commonly used one since he has very high base shields

[sinful bone]

where do you get it from?

[fierce lark]

wyrm/naut prime, sunika/huras/raksa dogs, and any pred/vulpa can use it with just redirect

[fierce lark]

fortuna i believe

rank 3

[sinful bone]

I'll have a look

I think I have a really good idea here

[fierce lark]

i will say one thing

im almost positive the boltor prime is strictly better than the telos boltor

if you really like the boltor specifically

[sinful bone]

it probably is

[fierce lark]

believe the same thing applies to every weapon that has both a prime and a syndicate version

[sinful bone]

well the shield threshold won't be a problem LOL. link redirection took my pet from 350 to 4k at r5

[fathom ravine]

Depends there is some syndicate weapons with neat little things like lifesteal

[fluid vigil]

Any of these good for selling i need sum plat

[fierce lark]

i mean

we can't see the stats on them lol

[fluid vigil]

Fair lol

[fathom ravine]

Atleast on the screen not many good dispo weapons

But there is some that "can be good" 200p if rolled right

[fierce lark]

i would suggest going to the warframe community discord and posting them in the riven pub

there are probably people there more suited to this kind of thing

it's pretty difficult to sell rivens for more than trash/reroll prices unless they're god rolls

[fathom ravine]

I do feel like faster to grind arbi and sell galvanized mods at lvl6 for plat than trying to sell trashy rivens

[fierce lark]

well thankfully we have warframe market for that, you don't have to spend much time selling them. figure out their price, list them, forget about them until you get a random whisper one day

going through each riven with people might take a bit though

[fathom ravine]

Rivens are just a mess in priving tbh

[viscid wagon]

I have a question and sorry if it's stupid, but is the orthos prime worth investing a catalyst? I've been generally told yes, even though "it's not the strongest in its category"

[fathom ravine]

Yes

[fierce lark]

my policy is unless i can immediately tell there are multiple valuable stats on it (2/3 good positives with a good negative) im just gonna sell it for whatever the lowest priced online sellers are doing

[fathom ravine]

Pretty much same or keep if i plan on using the weapon no matter what dispo

[fierce lark]

if it's currently your strongest weapon, OR you need it to do archimedea, i would say yes. otherwise, there's no reason to use it other than because you want to, and if that's the case then also yes

[fluid vigil]

Can i send the inv to that

[fierce lark]

sure i'll dm you a server link

[fathom ravine]

Like my arca plasmor riven that i rolled 500times to notice that tenet is 1/5 but still good

[fierce lark]

tap has the issue of the dispo being so horribly bad that even good rolls aren't worth slotting

[viscid wagon]

it's not, I actually just built it to farm mastery. Also, aren't archimedea missions quite difficult? I've refrained to do them because I think I still haven't scaled my damage well enough

[fierce lark]

they are, but it's less because of just the damage, moreso the large amount of modifiers that affect your damage/survivability/mobility, and your limited choices in equipment

but also you can scale the "difficulty" down as you please by ommitting different modifiers

[fathom ravine]

Just wish i had more riven slots than 100atm 😂

[scarlet shuttle]

Vinquibus build?

[viscid wagon]

understood; I'll leave the stick alone for now

[fierce lark]

if the weapon looks cool there's nothing wrong with investing in it, the ceiling for 99.99% of content isn't super high

but if you just leveled it for mastery and didn't plan on using it beyond that, unless it's a standout weapon (can always ask to figure that out) there's not much point in wasting things on it

[fathom ravine]

Coolfactor is the endgame when doing everything facionaly

[viscid wagon]

yeah, I totally agree, it's just that I'm not especially fond of it, I juts wanted to know if it was out-of-the-ordinary good

[fierce lark]

nah

[viscid wagon]

thanks a lot man

[fathom ravine]

There isnt many bad weapons that limit your content..expect few special cases where even mods and synergise dont fix the damagelimit of weapon beeing so bad thst its npt even funny

[fierce lark]

truthfully i dont think any of the melee prime weapons are standouts, other than the glaive and the dual zoren incarnon

bo has an incarnon but ive genuinely never heard mention of it lol

actually not even the zoren, i confused it with the ichor

[fathom ravine]

Orthos prime was menace when it went tro walls with range

Good ol days

[fierce lark]

hate, harmony, glaive prime, falcor, magistar, praedos, innodem, nami solo

off the cuff those are the big melees

[fathom ravine]

Lesion was another one that fell to the powercreep tho. Its still good but zaw with viral is better staff

[fierce lark]

im partial to the coda pathocyst, it's a glaive with innate viral and you can supercharge it with electric via free element

[fathom ravine]

Best way to play is ...if u like a weapon and it does the job then its a good weapon

[willow sentinel]

Rate my revanent prime build, also lmk if I should do anything better to it

[fathom ravine]

There is screenshot option in ps4-5 too 😂

[willow sentinel]

I just thought it was easier to take a quick picture mb

[fierce lark]

another reason i like the patho

[fathom ravine]

Taking picture of screen just makes colors look awful

[willow sentinel]

Ight hol up

[fathom ravine]

Not enough clutter like with my wisp mote 😂

[fierce lark]

would help to be able to see the mod screen, can't tell what's actually on, though i can say for certain the stats look off and the shield number looks way too big

rev typically wants a very large strength number and like...negative range since it barely does anything

[sinful bone]

dark sword's a fun lil slam weapon

[fathom ravine]

Ant revenant main but isnt whole gimmic of it to press 1button and be immortal no matger what healt/shield is ?

[fierce lark]

yes

[sinful bone]

I like telos boltace too ever since melee doughty started existing

[fierce lark]

strength and duration gives you more charges of your immortality button

[fathom ravine]

I only used revenant to boss skip in deimos 😂

One time in sp

Zealoid Prelate in lazymode

[willow sentinel]

Ok noted I'll make him stronger, any mods u recommend putting on him

[fierce lark]

this is what i have for a disco ball focused build

if you wanted to add a forma for primed/archon continuity you can

[willow sentinel]

Ight nice

Also here's my 2 different revanents

Ik this prolly got some bad mods please don't clown me I'm not that good at modding I tried my best

[fierce lark]

in solo play you can swap mesmer shield for augur secrets or smth

pretty much every mod that affects your health/shield/armor is redundant, you're aiming to be under the effects of mesmer skin 24/7

which is total immunity while it's active

[willow sentinel]

So higher energy and strength?

Lower health?

[fierce lark]

i would try to get all of the corrupted mods at some point, most of them are very strong and widely used across many/all frames and weapons

[willow sentinel]

Ok nice thanks for the advice

[fierce lark]

same with the drift mods, specifically power and cunning drift

free 15% strength or duration since they just use up the exilus slot

if you have vigilante pursuit i would use that instead in the meanwhile

[spare geyser]

Whats the best subsume for Mesa?

[fierce lark]

nourish over 1

[spare geyser]

Alright so i wasnt dumb for doing that, good

-# nourish is my default subsume

[fierce lark]

same goes for most people prob

[spare geyser]

Either Nourish or Roar

[fierce lark]

viral is the most important supportive element by like 50 miles, and it doesn't take up the "buff" ability slot like roar does on some frames

[spare geyser]

Also my goat Wrathful Advance for Excal and Baruuk

[fierce lark]

as much as i like wrathful advance

modding viral onto melee weapons is very annoying

[fathom ravine]

Dispensery works well too

[spare geyser]

Eh, dont need it on Baruuk

Hes just "unga bunga" while your panzer vulpaphyla virals stuff

[novel bear]

If you’re running influence, modding for viral is bad
Nourish also dilutes

[fierce lark]

panzer rarely ever actually gets to apply viral to the things im killing, enemies die too fast

[spare geyser]

Fair

[novel bear]

Then you don’t need viral, do you?

[fierce lark]

to my knowledge, nourish doesn't affect status weighting in any way, it's a separate instance of damage that applies viral damage with guaranteed status

[novel bear]

It’s not a separate instance

It’s viral damage

It’s like shock trooper, or fireball frenzy, or freeze force, or smite infusion, or whatever saryn’s corrosive augment is called

[fathom ravine]

Never really liked noursih myself ...way too many ways to prime stuff that i go for eclipse etc over it for utility ...even roar feels like cheating to me when there is lot of other coold combinations 😄 used roar only ones and that was on my second wisp for mote build

[fierce lark]

hm, i see

yeah if nourish screws with weighting then fair enough

kinda weird though because ive always seen nourish be the recommended subsume for both gara and baruuk

[novel bear]

From after they could run influence?

[fierce lark]

yeah

[fathom ravine]

With dublication ponds its pretty much not nessesary to have viral on my own anymore

Just spam abilities and watch everything have max stacks

[fierce lark]

i will say

on baruuk specifically i dont think it matters

his status chance is so high that you'll never have a problem triggering influence at all

[fathom ravine]

True

[fierce lark]

idk if you know who Ninjase is but that's who i copy most of my builds from, with minor adjustments if something feels better

(im greedy and never run rolling guard)

[sinful bone]

rolling guard and adaptation are lame

if my frame has no survivability I just cry

[fierce lark]

nourish is never a strict recommendation, but is usually the main one if you're going to subsume something

on gara specifically i think it's more the combination of everything. energy economy + being able to spread viral status with influence

[fathom ravine]

Tbh the way game is going with shield gating and health tanking now...rolling guard and adaptation are kinda useless with subsumes we have now like eclipse giving 75% dmg reduction that lasts more than minute

[fierce lark]

rolling guard and adaptation are useless because if you're gonna health tank you may as well just do it with persistence

[fathom ravine]

Yuop

[fierce lark]

if it's low enough level content to not need persistence, then you probably don't even need adaptation either

rolling guard is nice qol

[sinful bone]

ooh you just gave me a funny idea with grendel for that one

I forgot persistence exists now

[fathom ravine]

Not many run 24h survivals

[fierce lark]

levelcap cascade is fun

also a great way to do simaris standing

[fathom ravine]

Laughs in 36h octavia camps

[sinful bone]

so I'm wondering if arcane persistence has synergy with valkyr instead of just doing arcane reaper

[fierce lark]

it sorta does

[tidal parrot]

im prty sure my chroma is effectively immortal now as long as i can keep killing stuff for guardian armour, any input on making it a bit better by chance? (not including archon shards)

[sinful bone]

it probably doesn't need to work that way tho because of warcry

[fierce lark]

valkyr is already immortal if you just keep hitting things, but persistence can cover you if you can't hit something for some reason

[sinful bone]

ngl I have no clue what frames work with persistence and bulwark

[tidal parrot]

chroma :)

[sinful bone]

grendel doesn't really go much into armor, valkyr does but has infinite survivability anyways

[tidal parrot]

(inaros and nidus as well i think)

[fathom ravine]

Nezha 🙂

[sinful bone]

inaros was probably meant for this arcane yeah, that's what I was thinking

[fierce lark]

man i wish i owned jade

[sinful bone]

diddy is insane. my helminth is named CaseOh

[fallow shale]

There's a 4 dollar bundle with her in it

[fathom ravine]

My helminth name is daddy tickler 😭

[celest tendon]

Ok why do you bring that guy into helminth now xD

[tidal parrot]

go do ascension

[fierce lark]

on the market?

[fallow shale]

I named my Helminth, less impressively, Galactus

Steam and switch store, i think

Definitly in the switch store, tho

[sinful bone]

jade grind isn't too bad. almost as easy and quick as uriel to be honest

[fathom ravine]

Spider lady is only one im missing...just cant hate it more that its in duviri and takes sooo long

[celest tendon]

Than do the planet Uranus the place called Brutus and to get jade parts go to drifters camp and find ordis near kahl area.

[haughty sparrow]

Quick question, how is the vinquibus affected by wrathful advance?

[sinful bone]

I despise the undercroft and duviri as a whole

[fallow shale]

$4.99, and it comes with Jade, a shader set, and Stalker's ship as a skin for your orbiter

[fierce lark]

lmao you can buy a redeemer for a dollar

[sinful bone]

so naturally once I got all the incarnon geneses, got oraxia, and fully upgraded drifter, I very quickly stopped playing duviri as a whole

[fathom ravine]

Does it get into duviri rotations? Cause that would be more sure and faster way of getting it? Or is it just fully dependant on that bs mission

[sinful bone]

just the oraxia mission

[fathom ravine]

Ewww

[sinful bone]

yeah. again, as soon as I got everything out of Duviri I stopped playing it for good

I hate it, a lot.

[fathom ravine]

I have brought most duviri stuff with plat for reason 😂

[rotund galleon]

Has anyone tried throwing Ember's FireBlast on Uriel replacing Brimstone?

[fierce lark]

oh im literally 4 motes off of being able to finish ascension crafts lol

[fathom ravine]

My uriel is finishing tomorrow xD

[rotund galleon]

He's so much fun, and his flight is a much needed accessibility feature. Constantly bullet jumping has been causing me joint/tendon issues

[sinful bone]

Uriel is probably deadass the easiest late-game frame to grind so far

and it's probably only gonna get easier

[fathom ravine]

Prob will just slam parkour mods to it and rp as missile

[sinful bone]

actually I cannot think of a single late-game frame grind easier and quicker than Uriel

[rotund galleon]

if you're fast enough, floor 21 can be cleared in 1:15

[fathom ravine]

I mean it was just one run in sp ascension and done

It was way too ez with pity rewards

[valid cargo]

What are the best arcanes and mods for the new stuff?

[rotund galleon]

even without the pity shop, managed to farm everything but the Vinq stock in about half an hour

I really wanna see what happens if you replace his 4 with Ember's fire blast. Gonna try it and report back

I know it isn't "meta" or Best In Slot, but it's thematic and I wanna

[fluid hare]

Anyone have any good wisp prime builds?
Just got her

[rotund galleon]

doesn't do as much damage, but it can be cast over and over, and it has armor shred

[fickle shell]

is it better to use "corrosive projection" on ex umbra or should I just stick with "steel charge"?

[fathom ravine]

Max strenght and durataion

All that matters in basic wisp...u can use roar for more strenght or eclispe for even more survivability event ho u are just jumping all the time and enemies ignore you

[sinful bone]

steel charge adds a hilariously minimal amount of damage to your melee (since it's additive percentage and not multiplicative), but if you want more mod slots then steel charge may be better

[fickle shell]

do you have any suggestion for an aura? Maybe growing strength?

[dark bear]

doing this for uriel, how's it ? (i don't have hot shot)

[sinful bone]

growing power is extremely okay on umbra. I'd say your best bets are either steel charge or corro projection. if you have the mod slots, corro projection

[fickle shell]

got it! Thanks! ^^

[fathom ravine]

most basic one

eclipse/roar for 4th

[sinful bone]

np

[fierce lark]

i mentioned this earlier, corrosive projection is my preference on melee frames with no armor strip. anything without armor will die almost instantly anyways, and corro projection adds a pretty substantial amount of damage against anything with it

[sinful bone]

yeah

[fierce lark]

if you're doing a heavy spam build however, ready steel may be better

[sinful bone]

is that not just for the start of the mission?

[fierce lark]

initial combo persists the entire mission

when you heavy, your combo counter will quickly regenerate to whatever your initial combo is

[sinful bone]

oh maybe I misinterpreted it

[fickle shell]

Oh I'm heavily relying on his exalted blade since I have koumei's subsumed skill

[fierce lark]

thats why heavy spam builds are usually called 5x

[fathom ravine]

shockmote wisp is pretty weird build 😄 lot of mods that i didnt have like bellringer,cull the weak and magnetic strike etc

[wanton raptor]

how does the panzer vulpaphyla look? yes/no?

[fierce lark]

galv reflex provides enough initial combo to keep 5x combo counter

[fierce lark]

if you're ever shooting a gun, you should aim to have calculated redirection + reinforced bond

[wanton raptor]

this is for valkyr

i almost never have a gun

[fierce lark]

would probably swap link fiber for tandem bond

[wanton raptor]

i use link fiber because my valkyr has 14k armour

[fierce lark]

your pet is already more or less immortal with pack leader

[wanton raptor]

and since it gets 120% (at max) she has 16k armourr + the overshield + an extra buff with warcry

but i will look it up

[fierce lark]

tandem bond is just free combo counter for you and free damage for pet

both of which are mostly inconsequential, but it's something at least

[hoary roost]

saryn with venom dose, roar, and toxic lash active plus incarnon torid

[wanton raptor]

i just worry they die with pack leader (i do have primed pack leader, just not the endo to upgrade it)

[hoary roost]

beeeeeeeg damage numbers

[wanton raptor]

like i worry they'll just take too much damage, but you think they should be good if i drop link fiber?

[fierce lark]

im running regular pack leader for melee panzer and ive never had it die on a melee mission

[wanton raptor]

alright, ill give it a go

[fierce lark]

pets can shield gate the same way we do

[wanton raptor]

cant hurt, just gotta get the mod first

[fierce lark]

also

even if your panzer dies, it'll keep giving you its buffs thanks to deevolution

it doesn't actually "die"

[fathom ravine]

Or just acid shell kuva sobek...dosnt have to be "unique" saryn 😏

[opal wind]

Anyone got a good SP build for Hildryn with the new Arcane Expertise?

[fierce lark]

swap aegis for expertise

[wanton raptor]

yeah i mean ill get it and test it at the very least

[fierce lark]

there's the build

[wanton raptor]

just gotta get the plat to buy it

[opal wind]

@fierce lark I haven't really played her so I dont have a base build

[wanton raptor]

thanks for the advice 🙏

[crimson osprey]

Hey for an ash bladestorm+invis build which arcane do you reccomend, trickery or crepsular? Arcane fury uses my other slot

[sinful bone]

crep

[wanton raptor]

is there any way i could improve my valkyr talons?

besides upgrading im in the process of that

they shred stuff in SP so i think they're good i just don't know if theres a better mod im missing

or an idea missed

[fierce lark]

probably something like this

[visual breach]

should i choose shred or fury

[sinful bone]

psf if you don't already have it

[fierce lark]

can swap corrosive projection with growing power now that strength directly affects shield gain, can swap velocity with molt augmented

[fathom ravine]

Surefooted 😉

[sinful bone]

psf can only be gotten thru dailies iirc

[fierce lark]

did you take primed vigor for the 200 reward-

[visual breach]

yes

[pearl pawn]

Do any of the new focus notes from tau affect the operator or warframe, or are the pretty much all just buffing the tau strike?

[fierce lark]

oof

[rotund galleon]

Armor reduction stacks with damage vulnerability doesn't it?

[fierce lark]

yes, they are separate calculations

[rotund galleon]

fire blast on uriel instead of brimstone works very well

[visual breach]

thank you geoff keighley's friend, Hideo Kojima

[fierce lark]

i cant speak for the non-madurai ones but the madurai one has several nodes which give your warframe buffs after you tauron strike

[pearl pawn]

Oh yeah, I did see that, but I mean stuff that doesn't require using the tau strike itself.

[fierce lark]

no, all of them affect the strike or buff you after the strike, to my knowledge

which is unfortunate because charging tauron strike seems to be bugged, that or way slower than was intended

[fierce lark]

anyways i dodged the question

probably sure footed

[wanton raptor]

yeah its bugged for clients; not the host

[fierce lark]

fury sucks

primed shred is good but there are other ways to get what primed shred is giving you (mainly you want the punch-through), nothing does what psf does and it's a pretty insane qol on most frames

however, if you're comfortable without it and would rather keep using power/cunning drift, take primed shred

neither option is wrong

but yeah make sure you inform your friends to take primed shred on their day 200 reward lol

[fathom ravine]

There is focus school who does psf

[versed inlet]

Would this riven work better with the prime boltor or telos boltor when incarnoned?

[fathom sky]

Oof picking Vigor first

[visual breach]

what should i have chosen

it was like 3 years ago at this point

[fathom sky]

Shred or Fury, then PSF and then the other of what you didn't get from Shred/Fury

Fury is nice for weapons that need the speed immediately and can't wait the small bit for Beserker

[fierce lark]

that's fair, but an entire focus school doesn't compare to 1 mod slot

[fathom ravine]

Well thats also fair 😂

[fierce lark]

i think primed fury is objectively worse than berserker fury in 99.9% of cases

[fathom ravine]

It is...u get more from berserker and its so ez to trigger

Just hit things

[fierce lark]

and in cases where primed fury would be better (just boss fights really), i'd sooner slot arcane fury on the frame and open the slot on the weapon

and even then lol most boss fights have trash you can kill to keep up bfury

[hoary roost]

havent built that yet, dont want to bring something that effective into a pub lmao

[fathom ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-12686883553708718330

And soon u are one of the hundreds of thousands saryn mains that only use acidshell sobek

[fierce lark]

tbh saryn's numbers are so ridiculous you can pmuch blender everything in front of you with just about any gun

or melee

[queen parcel]

anyone got a good sun and moon build?

[wicked scaffold]

do yall have a debilitate build for a magnet progenitor tenet glaxion?

[brazen raptor]

okay so my harrow build is servicable atm, but I wanna take my damage to the next level cause I feel like I struggle to kill things in more advanced gamemodes/bosses

[hoary roost]

the fact that you can have THREE damage buffs from abilities at once on her is insane

[queen parcel]

i run a harmony biuld on her, only problem is the survivabilty

[fierce lark]

glax is innate cold right

[fathom ravine]

That is combo i had feeling like woody when andy threw him in trash xD

[wicked scaffold]

thats right

[queen parcel]

nah it's got potential, i was thinking maybe a tennokai build could work?

[fierce lark]

run a normal rifle build with viral+heat and add radiated reload

for bonus points run gas infusion with lavos/cyte

idk if it'll be effective but it'll be funny as hell

[fathom ravine]

Dunno better options stat wise but it looks good

[brazen pivot]

Whats a good weapon for bosses? Been doing well so far with furis incarnon, tenet glaxion, and just a few hours ago torid incarnon. Was trying to do the hardmode 1999 assassination solo but im lacking the single target damage since I rely on status

[fathom ravine]

Torid incarnon with cc cd corrosive blast carries you tro the whole game

[brazen pivot]

I see ll try it out think I had it built for gas with the new arcane

[fathom ravine]

U want blast build for beam

[brazen raptor]

Scourge for priming, dual tox for damage, furax for fire rate on dual tox

[brazen raptor]

torid stuggles with single target damage situations (eg. bosses)

[fathom ravine]

Tbh handt had anything where it struggles yet ...ofc i use pets and melee for armorstrip

[fierce lark]

if you want a secondary for bosses, laetum is easy to get and solid, one of the best secondaries there is

[brazen raptor]

when I was doing perita rebellion SP I had to switch for bosses

[fierce lark]

coda dual torxica, furis, pyrana prime, knell prime if they have an easy head hitbox

[jade horizon]

has anyone figured out a good amp build? (not the parts, the mods)

[fierce lark]

knukor still good for st

[brazen raptor]

I just kinda went all damage for now (with the knockdown immunity one)

[fathom ravine]

U lacked armorstrip. Use vastiloc/sarpa with shattering impact to get rid of it

Helps a lot

[brazen raptor]

I was using Caliban to armourstrip and give damage vuln

[fierce lark]

this seems to be the best combination for amp damage overall

at least out of everything ive gotten

[jade horizon]

does the knockdown immunity give your frame knockdown immunity or just the operator because its far less useful in the latter case

[brazen raptor]

just operator I think

I just think it sounds handy to have for hectic situations in cascade

[fathom ravine]

Can be little biased cause i do have semi good rivrn for it

[fierce lark]

does -capacity affect the incarnon?

[fathom ravine]

No

But lack of ms

[brazen raptor]

I'm not saying Torid is bad, it's kinda my default weapon if I don't have a specific setup

[fierce lark]

yeah that's a pretty crazy riven then

[brazen raptor]

it just has use cases, esp blast builds

[hollow mantle]

Any way to improve this? I cant really get it to do anything.

[fierce lark]

torid has its reputation for a reason but it's definitely not something you're supposed to shoot at bosses

[fierce lark]

reflex is a dead mod slot

[fathom ravine]

Vestilok + laetum + torid... Basically ready for anything that game throws at u

[fierce lark]

swap it for blood rush

[fathom ravine]

If u dont want to play with pets and synergies

[fierce lark]

i would also recommend swapping dreamer's wrath for disicpline's merit if you have it/can deal with the extra plat cost

[wanton raptor]

it's very easy to farm

[hollow mantle]

I've been trying to get it for about 3 months, not one drop.

[wanton raptor]

yeah i come back to it on and off

[fluid vigil]

Whats the new duration arcane

[hollow mantle]

Also I don't use Melee enough, reflex saves me time.

[wanton raptor]

i recently went back and got it on the 1st c rotation after a long while off

[hollow mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

[fierce lark]

it's not a hard farm but it's a 6% drop from a 15-20 minute rotation cycle

[wanton raptor]

nah the rotation cycle is much shorter

[fathom ravine]

Problem i have with laetum...getting dual status + -cc riven is hard :c only 1200rolls in

[fierce lark]

you can do 4 alchemy sets in under 15 minutes?

[wanton raptor]

yeah, i think the lowest ive gotten is about 11 or 12; it's not too hard, just a little bit rng heavy

but if you're focusing on throwing them you can toss them really quick and the ignition phase takes no time at all

[fierce lark]

maybe it's a solo thing, i only ever do it as a fissure so it's always in groups of 4

[wanton raptor]

yeah i farm it non fissure, i just go into the normal mission

if i see the fissure i do it because why not; but when i specifically farm for disciple merit i just go for the normal star chart cauldron

[fierce lark]

in general, you shouldn't farm for things you can buy, because you'll save more time buying it than you will money from farming it, by using that time to do the best plat farm available

[wanton raptor]

honestly i may have gotten down to 9-10 minutes on the farm

i don't mind farming unless the drop rate is just astronomically abysmal

[fierce lark]

even if you can do consistent 10 minute rotations, that's a 3 hour grind still

[wanton raptor]

it lets me play valkyr more

yeah im oaky with that

i sometimes just do random 1 hour arbitrations because its fun

[fierce lark]

im not about that life, prefer spending my time getting things that make the mr number go up

[wanton raptor]

na im still like mr 15 lmao

i just enjoy playing valkyr

[fierce lark]

platinum is there to make the optional long grinds not exist

[wanton raptor]

she's super fun

[fierce lark]

i sure can't wait for the braton & lato vandal

[wanton raptor]

if i could use plat to get tons of endo i would tho, im desparate

[fierce lark]

you can

[wanton raptor]

like how much we talkin

[fierce lark]

wfm

[brazen raptor]

buy ayatans on warframe market

[fierce lark]

upwards of 300 endo per plat

[wanton raptor]

oh yeah the exchange rate sucks for me tho because im plat broke lmao

[brazen raptor]

wait I know how I can improve my harrow build

[fierce lark]

add more duration

xd

[brazen raptor]

just gotta get styanax I guess

[fierce lark]

if you have plat laying around and ever want to upgrade a new galv or primed mod you just picked up, fusion cores are around the 80-90 plat mark typically

[near vortex]

One forma no potato
Riven is plus electric plus SC

[fierce lark]

i will say, i would probably drop one of the strength mods here for overextended

realistically you could drop both the health and armor mods and still make full use of arcane battery & persistence, but assuming you wanted the stats for lazy tanking at lower levels

valk wants to have high range for ripline grouping

and paralysis

[wanton raptor]

yeah, i know i could but what im trying to see is if i can keep the strength to continue to boost hysteria and get enough energy drain with my pet and a tauron archon shard to drop my efficiency mod

[fierce lark]

the effect of strength on hysteria is additive with condition overload, so it's not as impactful as it would otherwise seem

[wanton raptor]

yeah but funny number; and i do generally enjoy just the extra tankiness overall

also i don't own overextended

i cant get it to drop

but i dont really farm it often

[fierce lark]

unfortunate

[wanton raptor]

i have the plat for it i just like to try to farm things given the chance

[fierce lark]

it's not used that often tbf, most frames are happy at the 145-160 range you get from stretch/cunning drift, and they don't want to drop 60% strength for overextended

[wanton raptor]

yeah,my setups a little bit weird but its comfy

it doesnt have any issues running content; albeit being a little unoptimized

[fierce lark]

off the top of my head im running it on qorvex, saryn sometimes, khora, gara, hildryn, and i would run it on xaku

[wanton raptor]

i pretty much only play valkyr and garuda

[fierce lark]

i dont even know what garuda does ngl

[fathom ravine]

Think of her like rabbid wolverine

To be exact rabid vampire wolverine...u maul and suck them dry

[fierce lark]

chris benoit?

[wanton raptor]

oh she's super fun, great nuke tank

1 leaps to a target and draws blood, you get a blood orb equal to how much hp the enemy has; also a blood shield, any damage to the shield goes to the orb, you can hold the button down to charge the orb and throw it in a big explosion

2 impales an enemy on a spike and you and any ally heal for a % of your maximum hp per second; the siphoned enemy takes 1% of their hp as damage eery second. you can damage them while on spike and recast to drop them, doing damage to them so its also a cc

her 3 drains 50% of your hp and gives you 50% of your energy so combo it with her 2 and you have innate infinite energy

her 4 is a charge and any enemies in an aoe around you take damage, and then also have a chance to get a slash proc every time they're damaged (can scale to 100% so every attack is a guaranteed slash proc)

passive every kill you get increases your damage (multiplicatively if i remember correctly) up to 100%, also you have an exalted melee if you have no melee weapon equipped

some of her augments are also pretty dope

this is my build on her (sometimes i replace her 2 with gloom if im feeling lazy)

its a bit dated, and i need to swap to archon intensify but i don't have the mod rn so i cant

[upbeat kernel]

is modding her talons important for the abilites?

[wanton raptor]

not really, but her talons are very good weapons

• if you use the augment blending talons (which you should because it makes her nuke build feel REALLY smooth)

using her talons against enemies affecting by her 4 give double combo meter

not as important anymore but still quite nice

[viscid kettle]

hmmmm, i feel like my broken war can do more damages

[upbeat kernel]

interesting, might try that

thanks for the info

[wanton raptor]

no problem, she's my second main; right behind valkyr, and i love her dearly

she's a great gun platform if you use blood forge

instant reload with her 3 so it's super easy to use heavy weaponry with really slow reloads

can get a primary with a - reload speed riven and be entirely unaffected if you use blood forge, it's real nice

[upbeat kernel]

didn't know about that blood forge interaction

[wanton raptor]

yup, all blood forge does it reload your equipped weapon

so you can use it with primary or secondary

you have infinite reload on all weapons on demand, if you use cast speed archon shards (most people use 2-3, some people use 5)

then the cast speed of your reload doesnt even exist so you can quite literally infinite fire

[fierce lark]

i imagine you're still pretty early on, no primed or galv mods

[wanton raptor]

super fun frame, can do anything you need her too

tank, nuke, gun, cc, support, melee

[upbeat kernel]

gonna tinker with her builds then, thanks

[viscid kettle]

is this early?

[opal wind]

Would Roar be the best subsume for Hildryn with a Helicopter build?

[wanton raptor]

np

[wanton raptor]

yeah a lil

[fierce lark]

most definitely yeah

"early" to me means pre-starchart completion

more or less

[viscid kettle]

i have these

[fierce lark]

a lot of weapon power comes from galvanized and corrupted mods

[viscid kettle]

i also do have this

[fierce lark]

you have to do the challenge to reveal what weapon it goes to

[wanton raptor]

yeah; you're still pretty early in the grand scheme of things; a lot of those are useful but there's still a lot missing

[fierce lark]

first things i'll note here, +IPS (impact, puncture, slash) mods are almost always useless, same goes for prowess/other pure status chance mods and status duration mods

[balmy junco]

hey guys does anyone have an sp acceltra prime build?

[bronze bay]

Does arcane debilitate trigger on blast procs? Or does the detonation of the status at 10 stacks prevent it from working?

[fierce lark]

remove melee prowess, jagged edge and lasting sting.

add toxin, cold and heat mods, in that order, to make viral+heat

fill the last slot with true steel

if you have enough mod space you can replace pressure point/true steel with their sacrificial variants but i doubt you'll have the mod capacity

[viscid kettle]

it looks like this now

[fierce lark]

swap fever strike and molte impact

[dreamy fiber]

I need a good beginner build please

[magic widget]

can anyone tell me if wrathful advance is affected by heavy wind-up speed and/or casting speed?

[dark bear]

build for what ?

[ornate cosmos]

ku-her-vo lol

[wanton raptor]

MMM valkyr my beloved

[old marsh]

Yes

[wanton raptor]

@ornate cosmos do you want some advice

[ornate cosmos]

go ahead

[viscid kettle]

it looks like this now

[wanton raptor]

you can remove arcane nullifier, hysteria gives you status immunity and you wanna be building around hysteria anyways

bit of a waste

[wintry yoke]

Not really good at mods but this is really cool for steel path trust me 🥹

[dreamy fiber]

Just damage

[ornate cosmos]

does it?
if you're wrong, persistence goes down

[dark bear]

wind up seems like it, im not sure about casting

[wanton raptor]

do you have arcane battery?

[dark bear]

ok, but for what frame/weapon ?

[wanton raptor]

@ornate cosmos i main valkyr

[ornate cosmos]

fair

[wanton raptor]

second, if you have arcane battery

[ornate cosmos]

i was trying to go for a triumbral build too

[dark bear]

trumbral

[wanton raptor]

remove flow and use arcane battery instead

if you have it

[ornate cosmos]

i do have it

[wanton raptor]

swap it, you get more out of battery while you're in warcry + hysteria

you get the full 1k energy easy

[dreamy fiber]

I’m not sure any that I have I guess like oraxia, ash, nekros, sevagoth, or volt

[fierce lark]

do you have Reach?

[magic widget]

appreciate it

[ornate cosmos]

i mean
rage/hunter adrenaline still works; im trying to lean on that

[wanton raptor]

yeah but its good max; also ideally

[viscid kettle]

ye

[wanton raptor]

your armour is gonna be so high that the damage you take is gonna be relaly minimal

[fierce lark]

swap out lasting sting for it

and that should be good enough to deal with base starchart

[viscid kettle]

so status doesnt matter?

[wanton raptor]

i tried the hunter adrenaline and found myself wanting because my DR was too high in everything but the highest levels to make enough energy to sustain hysteria

i actually recently made a companion to help supplement my energy issues

[ornate cosmos]

i do intend to keep the build ready for past 1k

if persistence holds true, that is

[fierce lark]

status focus isn't super important early, and you don't have the means to abuse statuses anyways

and status duration as a stat sucks anyways, only useful for harmony or sickening pulse builds

[wanton raptor]

then hunter adrenaline may work for you; i just find building for synth deconstruct is much easier

and gives you more mod space

[ornate cosmos]

i'll prob do that too

[wanton raptor]

but if that works for you; you can absolutely use different archon shards and companion setups

both have their ups and downs

[ornate cosmos]

and throw a purple shard on her just to be sure

[wanton raptor]

thats all i use, is one archon purple and a synth deconstruct companion

[fierce lark]

there is a mod for every base status and every gun type that give 60% damage and 60% status chance, those are good for supporting elements like viral or corrosive, but a lot of those mods you have to either buy or go very out of your way for

[viscid kettle]

okkkk so thats where the galvanized mods are

[ornate cosmos]

also i uhh
ran out of capacity

[wanton raptor]

though i will say i ALSO have seismic bond to increase my efficiency to 85%

yeah mine is pretty forma intensive, ESPECIALLY umbral forma

[fierce lark]

galvanized mods are very expensive to rank up, same price as primed mods, but they are extremely strong

[wanton raptor]

ive got 6 forma in there and 3 of them are umbral

its expensive lmao

and im gonna have to forma it one more tiem

i think im gonna be 1 capacity short of being able to fully upgrade my mods with just 6

[fierce lark]

personally i do not recommend builds that require 3 umbral forma xd

[wanton raptor]

i find it fun

[fierce lark]

for practicality purposes anyway

[wanton raptor]

plus ive been playing since 2015 on and off

i have quite a few umbral

and i almost never use them

[fierce lark]

i think there's a chroma build for PT that actually does use 3 umbral forma

[wanton raptor]

thats awesome

also @ornate cosmos i do wanna say

i love, personally; that you're using swing line

i think im gonna swap to it because i think my new pet has solved my energy problems

before i updated them i was still struggling

[ornate cosmos]

i threw a forma there

[wanton raptor]

but i finished them today and its working a TON better

so i may nab that swing line idea from you

[ornate cosmos]

i dont feel like running anything else

[wanton raptor]

i feel you

like i SHOULD run cunning drift or power drift

[ornate cosmos]

once im done with waybounds, i might solely run unairu on her for the psf

[wanton raptor]

i stick with naramon

because with my set up

i can have x12 combo

[ornate cosmos]

its rather easy to build up combo with her

[wanton raptor]

and be out of combat for like 4 minutes before it completely drains

it is, but i like that

[ornate cosmos]

so long as there's enough ppl ofc

[wanton raptor]

oh yeah 100%

[ornate cosmos]

kinda real tbh
i wish naramon's passive was its waybound

[wanton raptor]

thats why i like my set up, if i get screwed b/c my team is nuking or nothing is spawning; i may only lose 1 combo multipier which is instant

[wanton raptor]

oh my god so real i would use OH

i would feint if naramon's combo passive was the waybound

a girl can dream

[ornate cosmos]

welp
off to level valkyr
again

[wanton raptor]

just do one run

of the, hunter guy

you know, synethsis bot's arena whose name i cant remember

[ornate cosmos]

simaris

[wanton raptor]

yeah his thing

[ornate cosmos]

i'll do the plains tech

[wanton raptor]

ah

i gotta be honest

i dont remember how i keep my combo for so long

[ornate cosmos]

i just kill surrounding enemies to build up combo

[fierce lark]

narammon

[wanton raptor]

no i had something else that makes it last longer too

[fierce lark]

dexterity arcanes?

[wanton raptor]

YEAH

those

[fierce lark]

yeah if you're only meleeing you can run dex sticks

[random pelican]

is the -grenier tradeoff worth it?

[wanton raptor]

oh my god i couldn't remember where they were i was going INSANE

i have dexterity in my primary and secondary and naramon

so i literally never lose stacks unless i happen to click tennokai half a second too late

[fierce lark]

im inclined to say no tbh

[undone dust]

it is in fact not

-grineer is one of the worst negs you could probably have

[fierce lark]

-infested and -corpus are fine, infested all melt regardless and you don’t do endurance corpus missions typically

corpus also fall over

[unkempt rivet]

Ok I know I’m gonna get flamed for this build.
Any ideas on how to make it better?

[mighty flare]

Drop sharpened bullets, crosshairs and steady hands to use elemental mods to make viral and heat

[unkempt rivet]

Ight bet

[fierce lark]

beyond that, galv/arcane waiting room

[mighty flare]

Then when you unlock the mod, lethal torrent, you put that over gunslinger

[fierce lark]

said mod drops from these nightmare missions

or "perfect" rescue missions on any planet

[unkempt rivet]

You read my f***ing mind HOW

[quiet laurel]

people usually always ask the same questions

"how do I improve this"
"where do I get said mods"

tho now you could technically also look at codex for that

[unkempt rivet]

(Look at me, MR 26 been playing since-
Uh…actually is there a way I can see how long I’ve been playing?)

[fierce lark]

steam purchase history? lmao

although warframe isn't a purchase

yeah idk

[unkempt rivet]

I’m on psn lol

Eh whatever. I know I’ve been playing longer than Plains of Eidolon hav been a thing

[wanton raptor]

ive decided i wont run the zipline auxiliry, and instead i will run hysterical assault

[fallow shale]

Were you there when the Deep Magic was written?

[weak sonnet]

what mods should i try and get or upgrade, just started steel path

[unkempt rivet]

The wut

[fallow shale]

Sry, it was a reference to a book/movie

I was making a joke about how long you've been playing

[fierce lark]

corrupted mods would be a good start, look up how to farm them

blind rage, transient fortitude and overextended can all be used on valkyr

eternal war is a good mod to get as wel, bought from perrin sequence or new loka at rank 5

[gray quarry]

Rank 5*

[fierce lark]

can all also be bought from players

yeah that mb

[valid cargo]

What mod should i swap for tenacious bond?

https://overframe.gg/build/717504/nautilus-prime/the-whirlpool-general-nautilus-grouping-priming-fire-rate-buff-shield-regen/

[blissful badge]

is range or strength better on uriel?

im trying to understand it

i have 175% range and 282% strength + molt augmented and camisado (will probably switch to camisado and hot shot)

[fierce lark]

left

oh it's gone

[severe bough]

Str first than range than duration

[fierce lark]

guardian maybe? or momentous if you wanna keep guardian

kinda up to you

[near vortex]

Say I want to do an Aquablades build
What frame should I subsume it on and why is the answer gauss

[hard dove]

Rhino

[blissful knoll]

Read the description, it tells you what the flex slots are

[blissful knoll]

Definitely not. Main precept, guardian, vacuum, momentous and regen are basically mandatory on every sentinal

[rain mauve]

I could use some help deciding between two Torid rivens, one is +225 crit chance, + 147 multishot, but - 112 damage and the other is + 134 crit chance, + 128 crit damage, and + 53 ammo. It's easy to balance the - damage with Serration, but I don't know how much the crit percentages will change things.

[icy nacelle]

I should honestly just sit down and build out a single loadout for endgame before branching back out into other stuff 🤔

I think I've sunk the most energy into Harrow so I'll just stick with that.

What weapons compliment Harrow best?

[blissful knoll]

Basically any weapon that wants headshots

Evade harrow can abuse scourge + insertheadshotgunhere

[icy nacelle]

So stug only, got it

[hard dove]

Considering you ideally don't use serration in the first place, right

[blissful knoll]

Xata is a bit more free on load out selection but ofc needs a bit more attention

[hard dove]

Second one cc cd is already a gold struck

[icy nacelle]

For the time being, I've just been running my Lex Prime and Soma.

I'll probably get my hands on a better headshot gun

[blissful knoll]

Crit laetum is pretty good for a headshot gun

[hard dove]

Get chakkur

[icy nacelle]

I really need to finish my Laetum.

I keep forgetting about angel headshots

[compact hill]

Has anyone got a chroma prime build for credit farming?

[fallow shale]

Just crack relics

Collect Harrow Chassis bp

[compact hill]

Not the most efficient way to do it

[blissful knoll]

Aren't the hex bounties p good for credit farming?

Otherwise you can run profittaker if you really wanna farm just credits

[hard dove]

It is
Both are boosted by chroma which is why the guy is asking for chroma build

[compact hill]

Techrot caches. Need build for chroma to make him survive

[icy nacelle]

So what I'm hearing is Kuva Chakkur, Laetum, and insert melee here. Coolio.

-# Frankly, I should upgrade to a harrow prime and find better archon crystals to shove into its skull. However, that's above and beyond at this point.

[compact hill]

This^

[compact hill]

Im rank neutral on fortuna 💀

[blissful knoll]

Btw is index still a decent credit farm?

[compact hill]

Not the most efficient one anymore

With credit booster and blessings u can get upto a million with just one techrot caches finding in hex

In one run

If you are lucky enough.. or else 500k is guaranteed iirc

[blissful knoll]

That's p good yea

[compact hill]

With booster, blessing and Chroma's 4th skill

[blissful knoll]

Yea so basically just any chroma without subsuming 4?

[compact hill]

Yeah

[fierce lark]

funny of you to say that after telling them to read the description where it says most of these mods are flexible

[compact hill]

That's why I want a survivability build for him to survive the mission and look for the cache

[icy nacelle]

Is the phemnor still good?

[hard dove]

https://overframe.gg/build/493141/
I don't personally play Chroma so i just copy n paste this from someone smarter than me but considering effigy isn't really a build to be centered around this should be good

[icy nacelle]

-# void plumes will be my death ngl

[hard dove]

Yes

[blissful knoll]

Read again

[compact hill]

Us. I need 30 of them to finish my parallax

[fierce lark]

the only two things it says are mandatory are vacuum and manifold

[icy nacelle]

🫠

[blissful knoll]

If it's not in the flexible options it's not flexible

The reason there's a flexible options part is cos those are the ones that are flexible

[fierce lark]

he quite literally says for regen+momentous "you can swap these off if you prefer"

these guides aren't always perfectly formatted

[icy nacelle]

Welp, I have all the mods for my harrow, I won't be crying too hard if I need to re-shard by swapping to a prime. 🤔

[blissful knoll]

You can swap them off at the risk of losing a ton of your sentinel uptime, yes

As in if you're playing at a difficulty where they can't kill your sentinel or you have frames that make it invul

But for the most part you don't want them off your build

If you're playing exclusively nyx then go ahead and swap those off

Or titania with duplex bond or whatever

[short star]

What mod do I swap with my riven?

[blissful knoll]

Otherwise the sentinel will spend a lot of time dead

[velvet pulsar]

Sentinel useful for oberon

Doesn't matter dead or alive

[blissful knoll]

I'm just assuming they're using nautilus as a primary grouping tool so they want it always alive

[blissful knoll]

Speaking of oberon, floor oberon is so funny

5 min bleedout timer

[velvet pulsar]

Is it 5 anymore?

I thought it's somewhere between 3-4

[blissful knoll]

I think I've seen smth like 5.5mins

[velvet pulsar]

With the bleedout mod?

[blissful knoll]

I think so

I didn't dig deeper into the build, just found it hilarious

[velvet pulsar]

Peak survivability

[icy nacelle]

Alrighty, yeah.

I think my build will be:

Harrow Prime
Kuva Chakkur
Laetum
My Zaw
Madurai
Chesa Kuvrow (can't bother to mod up anything else)

And I'll bother with archwing, mech, and hover board later.

This should work fiiinnneee

[blissful knoll]

Consider scourge to make your headshots easier

The altfire causes a mini bullet attractor on the enemies' head

[icy nacelle]

I keep forgetting that the scourge exists ngl

[hard dove]

Get knell for headshot

[velvet pulsar]

I'd rather miss my shots than use scourge

[hard dove]

Or dual toxo is also fun

[blissful knoll]

Dual toxo yes

Insane gun

[icy nacelle]

I already have a Laetum, I lack both knell and toxo

I can work towards that 🤷

[blissful knoll]

My personal favourite is vesper

[hard dove]

Wait you just missed dual toxo incarnon by a day lol

[blissful knoll]

Gas headshots baybee

[icy nacelle]

Sadge

[hard dove]

Gotta wait for like 2 month for dual toxo

[velvet pulsar]

I use toxocyst incarnon to easily trigger Pistoleer and spam primary for 10s.

[icy nacelle]

I also keep forgetting about vesper

I can probably work with Laetum and Vesper

[velvet pulsar]

Irradiate laetum

[icy nacelle]

Hmmm

[hard dove]

Cooking

It has innate rad on incarnon right?

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[hard dove]

A second melee influence like arcane has hit the meta

[icy nacelle]

Cracked

I'm all ready running the funny Zaw arcane + influence

[velvet pulsar]

What's funnier is that I can probably loop some damage using certain things

[icy nacelle]

Double up on status spread

[velvet pulsar]

Like Tenet Detron with Thermagnetic Shells or Oraxia's 4 or Nova's 4 which causes enemies explode on death.

[hard ravine]

While were at incarnons, can i still use incarnons on uriel? Is it a waste bc apparently his fire infusion doesnt work on incarnon forms

[hard dove]

Sobek

I think sobek work like the other sobek user on him

[velvet pulsar]

Same old reused code since cyte

[velvet pulsar]

Debil acid shells

[icy nacelle]

So, how good is scourge in general?

[velvet pulsar]

Primary Debil

[icy nacelle]

Or would I just be using it as a utility for my Laetum

[blissful knoll]

But wouldn't they be dead already?

Since laetum hits like a truck

[velvet pulsar]

Less shots
More AoE
More kills per shot

[blissful knoll]

It's a useful utility weapon, not the best primer but the mini bullet attractor is unique to it in weapon form

[mighty flare]

Unless external rad priming, yes

Mostly meme arcane

[hard dove]

Qorvex comeback

[velvet pulsar]

Hounds

[blissful knoll]

Blast cyte meme infinite loop to crash your pc

[velvet pulsar]

BTW
U can still use primary debil against a status capped boss if you use 2 tau green shards for increasing corrosive cap?

[mighty flare]

If ur trash clear weapon needs priming, it’s not good at trash clear

[blissful knoll]

Who dies first, the enemy or your pc 🫡

[velvet pulsar]

Enemy death gonna cause PC death

[fierce lark]

are you sure about that?

i still see the fire thing on my UI when i swap to incarnon form

[velvet pulsar]

It's inconsistent

I got that once yesterday on Burston Incarnon form

But not on next tries

[hard ravine]

...maybeeee they tried to fix it but not fully works? ;-;
Surely.. ill just report it as a bug lol and cross my fingers

[velvet pulsar]

They're conflicted management with half of them hating powercreep

Though Pablo isn't against powercreep

[fierce lark]

"what balance?"

[woeful minnow]

can yall recommend an amp for the new arcane zid an uskos

[severe bough]

It does actually show which wasnt before ( oraxia ) either they just make it visuell and didnt change anything or it actually works

[severe bough]

Just use 547

[woeful minnow]

is 4 the bouncing glaive? and should i just use Madurai

[gray quarry]

nerfs persistence after a day

[wanton raptor]

god don't get me started 😭

there was suuuch a simple way to fix it rather than turning it off

[severe bough]

What u wanna use it for anyways?

[vague oxide]

is the galariak prime a good melee??

[woeful minnow]

uskos

[severe bough]

I guess just the standard melee influence crab

[fierce lark]

with the amount of people i see posting builds with persistence, apparently the nerf was fine

[severe bough]

Is that the one who does increase heat dmg for secondarys?

[woeful minnow]

yuh

[fierce lark]

time to experiment

[severe bough]

Tbf i wouldnt craft a amp based on the new arcanes 547 is good for general/cascade
177 is good for eidos and cascade but only good for casc if your ping doesnt suck

[gray quarry]

I mean it didn’t kill me from using it, I use it to kill my shields anyway

[fierce lark]

i dont think the nerf really matters anyway, there's not exactly a lot of things that apply mag/rad procs, and the one thing that's present everywhere is omega telegraphed

[woeful minnow]

ty

[fierce lark]

being energy leech eximus

[wanton raptor]

i just made an amp that works good enough

[fierce lark]

i need to hurry the hell up and get out of this 123 amp

[severe bough]

Most players wont even use it in endurance ig the just like the fact they can health tank now

Most dont even know it got nerfed

[fierce lark]

health tanking was always viable in lower level sp

i think most people just don't know that health conversion exists

who would though, simaris sucks

[gray quarry]

Only thing I see being stupid is violence, but also just kill him faster

[severe bough]

Shield gating >>>

[fierce lark]

yeah you see violence in endurance and die instantly

other than that nbd

[gray quarry]

Imma use it, only cause I’m playing valkyr

[severe bough]

I mean there def nothing wrong with using it

Sometimes my eye reads some really crazy convos in Q and A chat lmao

Kinda funny

[gray quarry]

I’ve heard QnA chat is just 67 spam rn

[carmine mist]

they are lol

when is nighttimeon earth ?

[gray quarry]

Not a clue

[fierce lark]

if you mean in PoE, about 56 mins i think

[carmine mist]

im trying to do this quest and i have to gather a flower tht is only there at night

but idk how to check when nighttime will come

[gray quarry]

Nighttime in missions?

[severe bough]

The revenant quest

[carmine mist]

the silver grove

[gray quarry]

Companion app says an hour

[fierce lark]

so out of 9 new arcanes, it seems like there's 3 that are actually good, and 2 that are good memes

[carmine mist]

then after silver grove i do revenant

[fierce lark]

oh earth itself is night right now

[carmine mist]

bet

[fierce lark]

for the next hour

[carmine mist]

its day time for 1 more hour on earth ?

[carmine mist]

whered u check that

[fierce lark]

alecaframe, desktop app

[carmine mist]

thanks

[gray quarry]

Why PoE and earth aren’t on the same time is what I’m wondering

[fierce lark]

yeah uh

poe is warframe's australia i guess

[carmine mist]

its a 8 hour rotation thtsall ik

[fierce lark]

is it? jesus

[carmine mist]

yea lol kinda crazy

[gray quarry]

Thought it was a 4 hour rotation

[compact osprey]

is there a better way i can build this ignis? ive been trying many different things and just cant get it to do very well in steel path

[random prawn]

Should I convert this lich?

[fierce lark]

a 54% nukor might get a decent price, up to you

[versed harbor]

ignis is rly bad and outdated but if u wanna improve id swap hunter muni for hellfire and then drop serration once ur merciless is maxed

[fierce lark]

ignis (and its wraith counterpart) just isn't very good truth be told

[compact osprey]

damn alright ill have to find a different weapon then not really a point in dumping more forma if it cant get any better

[fierce lark]

steel path means you have zariman

might i recommend incarnons 👁️

[compact osprey]

true i do have torid just needs to built on and working on getting burston incarnon in circuit

[fierce lark]

burston is great

torid is probably the best crowd-clearing weapon in the game, or one of them anyway

innodem & laetum don't need an adapter and are among the best waepons in their category

phenmor used to be that but idk if that's true anymore, been a lot of primaries

still really good though

adversary weapons also exist

i was thinking of weapons to list off, but truth be told you could probably run any one of the adversary weapons with mag progenitor and with good mods they'd carry sp

tenet plasmor/glaxion/cycron and kuva nukor/sobek are particular standouts i can think of

the bramma & zarr used to be really good but idk how usable they are now with the ammo issues

ogris too

that reminds me i really should get a tenet cycron

also coda weapons, all of them are pretty good, the basocyst/sporothrix/torxica/pathocyst are all pretty amazing

[compact osprey]

yeah my friends were telling me about coda weapons but i gotta get standing higher and get mats

[fierce lark]

at least hex standing is very easy, do 3 bounties and you're done