builds-discussion

[near vortex]

you say that as if you can't get max stacks in like 10 seconds

case in point:

[kind void]

even if we make stack gain 1 second for 100 stacks that still means you only get about 25 seconds before you have to stop and get stacks again

this is on top of trying to do objectives in a level cap run

[near vortex]

not with Persistance

[kind void]

and when vioelnce spawns and removes it

you now start losing stacks and if you cant get to him in time you die

[near vortex]

That's when you can burn through stacks

[kind void]

and thats ndius with death gate

[near vortex]

and usually at cap you have an acolyte killer

[kind void]

othjer health tanks gdont even get that

[undone dust]

oh does violence like actively drain nidus's stacks or is that just the death gate proccing

[kind void]

he takes 1 stack from you

[undone dust]

that is heinous

[kind void]

but silence keeps the arcane off for the ful duration

which is weird

tbh silence should drain stacks constantly

but with the arcane off every instance of damage removes your stacks. you have 20 seconds to get to and kill the acolyte before you run out of stacks

[near vortex]

how long is silence active

[kind void]

i want to say like 30s? with a 20m range

[gray quarry]

Until he dies or 30s probably

[kind void]

he can recast it

but the point stands. every 5 min oyu roll the dice on if you get to keep going

[undone dust]

yeah thats right

i would assume he uses silence's actual base stats

[kind void]

and thats nidus with deathgate. other tanks have it even worse

[kind void]

that would make sense

[undone dust]

bro has a modded silence

[kind void]

dear god

[undone dust]

trust

[kind void]

max range duration

have fun idiot XD

[undone dust]

that would actually be the worst thing ever

[kind void]

thats like what 60m full 90s

imm be honest even without persistance that woudl be an issue

[undone dust]

which one spawns shadows, because that one spawning a violence shadow is another detriment

[kind void]

uh.. malice?

imma be real i have no idea

i use influence so when he spawns them everything dies very very fast

[undone dust]

its either misery or malice but occasionally the violence shadow can be annoying

[kind void]

i take it the shadow can use silence...

just when we think it cant get worse XD

[undone dust]

yes

[kind void]

i have some buckshot thats calling my name. sadly i still have 15 stacks...

the void calls to me

[undone dust]

so two acolytes can potentially screw you over LMAO

[kind void]

at this point might as well add

that we know of

[undone dust]

i dont think any of the other ones have some weird disable mechanic tbh

[kind void]

now im starting to wonder how many other instances of ability negation we have that can ruin a health tanks entire life

[near vortex]

after perusing a couple wiki pages and an unsuccessful google search
I can't find where the duration on Violence's Silence is

[kind void]

yah i looked at the wiki before. i think we can assume its going to be base stast

probably leve 3

but it could be level 1

but we do know its about 20m so level 3 seems to be the one

[undone dust]

which aco has tempest barrage? cause corrosive procs can screw it over too

[near vortex]

I don't think Violence's silence has lasted as long as 30 seconds whenever he's spawned in my mission
mostly cause he's dead before it can matter

[kind void]

they can but at least you can avoid it with extra armor or resistances

[undone dust]

true but it is definitely something to keep in mind

that takes the amount of acolytes that can shaft you to 3

[kind void]

yah im mostly looking at things that cant realistically be avoided

[undone dust]

fair

[kind void]

mag procs and nullies can be avoided with a bit of work

corrosive procs as well

[near vortex]

Silence can be avoided
20m is surprisingly small

Nidus is status immune with 3

[kind void]

melee acolyte that can teleport ontop of you

[undone dust]

sometimes the beams from thrax can be extremely annoying, especially if they bug out

[kind void]

so i dont think the 20m range matters much unless ther are multiple people

[undone dust]

yeah it probably hurts solo caps more than squads

[kind void]

yah true but once again silence strips that away. but thats less of a death sentence and more of an annoyance

my source is the number of times i have beaten violence to death with my bare hands after he stole my noodle

[undone dust]

LMAO

[near vortex]

silence strips away persistence too so getting status procs doesn't hurt as much

[kind void]

do you know what that does to a nidus? its like someone cutting off your balls

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

[near vortex]

my verdict: bring an acolyte killing weapon like a normal person

[undone dust]

basically someone flaying you and dumping salt all over your body

[kind void]

more or less

and nidus having a death gate it doesnt really kill him as much as it makes him very very unhappy

[near vortex]

wait can you silence acolytes

[kind void]

you can

[undone dust]

yeah but using a helminth just for an rng based enemy blows

[kind void]

but you have to hit them before they hit you

[undone dust]

that too

[kind void]

yah

[near vortex]

have positive range
got it

that's very easy to do

[undone dust]

does silence disable eximus and thrax abilities too? i can't remember

[near vortex]

I'm bouta make a Nidus config where I put Silence over 2

[kind void]

hmm

[near vortex]

yeah

that's why people use it on Limbo for some reason

[kind void]

remove his 3 if you want to use persistance

his link is his least useful ability at level cap

[near vortex]

I'm keeping three
Status immune plus health for persistance

plus if I'm in a squad it's basically mandatory

[kind void]

his 2 and 1 are used to generate stacks

[near vortex]

I can offload grouping to naut or Magus arcane

[undone dust]

@kind void how does the damage buff from link work? wiki says it's similar to eclipse but idk

[kind void]

its not. wiki is ver yvery wrong

[undone dust]

yeah i assumed so

[kind void]

the so called dmg buff is a % buff to ability str

so 100% will double your ability str

[near vortex]

the weapon damage component is similar to Eclipse but also a bit different

[undone dust]

so is it practically useless to think about

[near vortex]

The ability strength boost is def where the sauce is but the weapon damage is nice

at high strength its like half an arachne for two people

[kind void]

yah the dmg boost is so small it pretty much doesnt matter

[kind void]

more then that. at high str you can give someone else 400% more ability str

i used it witha 275% ability str build to hit 2500% str in fissure mission

[near vortex]

I'm talking about the base damage component

[kind void]

oh Xd

[near vortex]

arachne isn't strength

[kind void]

yah pretty muhc an arcane and some

oh i read that as arcane XD

not arachne

[undone dust]

okay so it's not that bad?

[near vortex]

does that mean it double dips on Glaives
hmmm

Coda Pathocyst Nidus to level cap

[undone dust]

it does not, i tested it which is why i asked

[kind void]

eh no? but its range limited and is massivly overshadowed by the other 2 buffs

the ability str multi and the parasitic vitality

compared to the 2 single strongest health and ability str buffs in the game a bit of dmg is nothing

[undone dust]

i sure do love my morbillion health

[near vortex]

I need to play with Persistence a bit
Violence could be a problem but it's nothing that a good ol acolyte killer weapon can't handle

[kind void]

hitting 40k health on nidus is a crime

[near vortex]

Where is my 10k one

[novel bear]

You only need 8000 or so for grace and persistence to make you immortal

[undone dust]

i ate it

[kind void]

i have an image of my nidus with 2500% ability str

[near vortex]

That is with Abundant, I could have sworn I had one without abundant

[kind void]

they need to remove the undying nerf from abundant

let me have my cake and eat it as well

[near vortex]

Hmmmm

[novel bear]

Could be worse, could be inaros

[kind void]

i will never be a sad sand boi main

[reef bay]

can I uh ask for riven suggestion ?

[wise prairie]

anyone know where to equip my operator or my amp mods?

[fathom sky]

Amp mods are from Tauron

[obtuse fossil]

anyone can share sum uriel builds so on? thanks!

[wise prairie]

i already got it most of it but i cant seem to equip them

[undone dust]

are you on the amp screen where your tauron shows

[fathom sky]

If the School you have equipped doesn't have the Tauron unlocked then you just can't use the Amp mods

[deep oak]

Hey, which one should I go with?

[fathom sky]

Neither are good because Phantasma has awful crit stats

[latent musk]

How are ya'll building Dante from the Devil May Cry series Uriel?

[wise prairie]

oh i need to the tauron unlocked first then

thx for the info @fathom sky

[dark bear]

vinquibus melee build ?

trying this 1 forma but doesn't feel that good

[fathom sky]

That's what I said the first time yeah.

[compact hill]

is this build good?

[thin aspen]

anyone know good zaw parts/builds for wisp? Using rabvee rn and it's nice but was wondering if I can push for even more damage

[hard dove]

CO + PPP is questionable
Just need CO here

[hexed sundial]

why galv reflex

influence relies on light attacks

[compact hill]

It was another player's build they showed me. Mine is different

[hexed sundial]

ok

[compact hill]

@hexed sundial @hard dove this is my build

[hexed sundial]

personally, i'd slot in weeping wounds over galv reflex, shocking touch over voltaic strike, and blood rush over spring loaded or ppp

[hexed sundial]

that looks good

i'd use berserker fury for more attack speed but quickening is fine

[compact hill]

Ah ic ic. I'll look into that

[hexed sundial]

are you buffing it with any frame btw

[compact hill]

wisp

[compact hill]

this is the current wisp build

[hexed sundial]

ok

u prob dont need more attack speed then cus wisp gives alot

[compact hill]

yeah

i kinda wanna do more damage

[hollow mantle]

Primary Debilitate is fun

[golden plank]

strongest amp arcane fr

[wanton widget]

How to play gauss?

[upper pawn]

What should I put in my final mod?

[lethal aurora]

How about more shield

[upper pawn]

I 100% need more shield what mod would u recommend

[pseudo lodge]

Wait did they stop blast being useful for the vadreia

[shrewd nebula]

Left or right?

[fossil coral]

Does nullifer and persistence work together or what?

[lethal aurora]

Primed redirection if u don’t have it use any shield mods

[upper pawn]

Don’t have prime I can use normal

[lethal aurora]

Yea use normal

Try get octavia augments

[upper pawn]

What are her arguments?

I have no idea ngl lol

[hard dove]

augur msg/reach

you probably dont want narrow minded on her

[hard dove]

augment for 1:
you have 2 mellet but each have half range
augment for 2:
press 2 again to make the roller stationary at the place you aim

[odd sable]

Does anyone have a gauss sp nuke build?

[upper pawn]

Ya reach will 100% hekpvwhats msg short for?

[hard dove]

also please dont use shield mod she already have invisbility for survivability

[hard dove]

augur message

[lethal aurora]

Tried everything to make her invisible but couldn’t figure it out how to?

[hard dove]

have lots of notes on her mandachord > press 3 > spam crouch > invis

theres some songs out there to maximize her notes without making something garbage sounding

[lethal aurora]

Bruh all the time didn’t know

[hard dove]

and also unless the frame is named hildryn you ideally dont want to use shield increase mods either

[lethal aurora]

Reached hildryn to 14k shields

With the new arcane no need for shield mods

[hard dove]

dk what to replace for my current hildryn build for that

maybe replace aegis?

[lethal aurora]

Depend on your play style

[undone dust]

yeah you can drop aegis and just run raksa or a sentinel with guardian and shield charger

[lethal aurora]

I replaced haven for nourish

I use her secondary for every mission

Love spamming this

[dapper sonnet]

Does point blank and other base damage mods help scale acid shells on saryn? I’m kinda confused about what stats get factored in

[craggy rose]

Any good vadarya prime builds?

[mighty flare]

choose whatever you want: serration / hammershot / high voltage / viral / etc

[strange crystal]

Anyone have a good weapon and build for bace valkyr?

[twilit orchid]

747 best setup?

[civic tartan]

Anyone got some decent build for Uriel?

[young ridge]

how do I copy these reduce cost slots?

nvm found out how forma worked

[potent marten]

Welcome to the world of unending variety of Warframe modding

[young ridge]

yeah I'ma need to use 7 total for this calibhan prime build I just need to learn how to gain ranks super fast

[potent marten]

Sanctuary onslaught or the one defense mission I forgot that used to be the place to lvl up

Or PoE farm

[novel bear]

PoE is the best for frames

[young ridge]

where is the PoE

[novel bear]

Do you have a good bow?

[young ridge]

uhh this is my natuark build

[novel bear]

Good enough

Poe is plains of eidolon

You go into archwing, fly high above enemies, and shoot eximus to get stealth kills

You shoot the arrow, and then leave archwing, and once you get the kill you go back into archwing

[young ridge]

aight

[young ridge]

is it the steel path version

[novel bear]

No

[young ridge]

aight

[hollow mantle]

Reliable 7mil red crits without priming.
Serration and Aero are flex slots, I use Aero for Melee Crescendo.
Riven can be swapped for Bladed Rounds which is objectively better than the Riven.

[crisp pine]

Okay I am having a problem with energy efficency. Does anyone know how to solve it? In the dark Refractory missions they do not drop energy orbs and so I have problem sustain my titania at all. But if I put energize I lose aegis which heavily weaken my surivaiblity

[hollow mantle]

The Humble Energy Pads:

[crisp pine]

problem i can't use them in razorwing form

[hollow mantle]

Ooooh right

You could just do a super niche gerryrig build w/ Nourish and Energy Siphon so you regen 9/s

0 Effort solution

Youd still have to leave Razorwing for that...

[crisp pine]

energy regen does not work either as razor wing is channel ability which disables it. IT is the same reason why the pads do not work

[hollow mantle]

Channel Abilities are such a pain in the ass.

[nova ether]

Hey guys i have an acceltra riven and wanna ask whats the best stats i should be rolling for?

[hollow mantle]

The usual Crit Dmg, Crit Chance, Multishot.

[prime lava]

vinquibis build pls

[craggy rose]

Any alternatuves fo4 hammer shot?

[hollow mantle]

Too goated a mod to replace, but if you REALLY needed to, a good mod is Target Acquired, I guess.

[craggy rose]

Yea i dint dont have hammer shot and its kinda expsive so i gitta replace it unfortunately

[hollow mantle]

I dont even remember when it dropped for me. Just looked it up, 1% chance from Nightmare missions is actually aggrevating.

[hybrid marsh]

Persistence is making Inaros feel so much better

[golden plank]

nidus too

[hybrid marsh]

I hope Nidus’ 4 gets Oberon’s hallowed ground treatment

Limiting it to 8m is crazy

Also Debilitate is crazy

[fluid gulch]

does anyone have a build for nautilus and verglas i just got mine made and idk how to build it properly

[hollow mantle]

Strun Prime w/ Debilitate is a monster

[hybrid marsh]

Strun

[hexed gate]

im looking to do steel path with kullervo any recommend build for it??

[velvet pulsar]

It fixes the age old problem gas had

[hollow mantle]

Uriel causes the game to crash if you mod too hard.

[green gyro]

run zenurik

but you shouldn't be having that issue anymore if you're killing a few enemies lol

maybe you need a better dex pixia build

use impetus and snapshot the efficiency buff

[silver inlet]

Got a riven for the Ohma. If I am rolling it for the Prisma version, do I focus on crit or status?

[flint orbit]

Because a quick search didn't turn up anything i'd like to ask

Does arcane persistence interact with quick thinking?
So I'm thinking (quickly) if quick thinkings 1:2.4 ratio applies I could use it to drop the persistence regen/health requirement to lower while using adrenaline to feed the health cost

[gray garden]

1 shot from 1 weapon, no incarnon form activated, the ammount of status 💀

[velvet pulsar]

I'll try that on coda hema

And Bubonico alt fire

And definitely a must have for tenet glaxion

[civic tartan]

What is a good build for Ureil? Anyone have any suggestions?

[fierce lark]

i cannot decide what to put in these last two slots

[gray garden]

mine is pretty decent, it focuses his 4th

[civic tartan]

Worddd

[gray garden]

i have some shards for casting speed, spam 3 to get the 4th and whenever you tap it everything within +30m dies

[civic tartan]

Very nice I can't really read those mods but they look similar to ones I've already got

[gray garden]

yh sorry, they are in spanish

[civic tartan]

It's cool lol

[clever holly]

can someone suggest me an upgrade for my Saryin? this is what she currently rocking

[fierce lark]

probably health conversion over transient if you're going the health tank route

in that case i'd also look for somewhere to fit adaptation

[clever holly]

she is pretty tanky with gloom so I am aiming towards more dmg

[valid axle]

how trash is this

[fierce lark]

oh im a firm nonbeliever in gloom saryn

[fierce lark]

it's missing the electric damage to use influence

unless exalted blade has forced elec somewhere, i dont play excal

[valid axle]

Chromatic blade its right there

[fierce lark]

oh neat

would swap out gas for viral on the blade if you aren't running nourish

or just run both 60/60+90 electric mods for higher chance to proc influence

whenever you can afford to, slot tennokai of some kind in the exilus

ideally discipline's merit

[severe bough]

Saci steel --> galv steel
Saci pressure --> CO
Fever strike --> shocking touch
Volcanic touch--> bane/voltaic strike

If your running tennokai consider Running ppp cuz multiCO on heavys or arcane fury

[wanton widget]

Best weapons for gauss?

[midnight horizon]

Is guardian armor affected by ability strength

[fierce lark]

i dont think gauss specifically has anything catered to him, but you can make normally slower weapons like the plasmor feel a lot better with redline

nukor/epitaph/other heat primer if you're playing around sunder

[grizzled badger]

Any advice for this as a build?

[flint orbit]

Feels like range is a bit low, fiber and carapace might not be necessary since HC lets you hit breakpoint for persistence, also adaptation is kind of weak with persistence no?

[grizzled badger]

Big issue for me is right at start or if something like Ash P oneshots me

Also,why would adaptation be weak with persistence?

[flint orbit]

Persistence is after DR

[severe bough]

Dr is useless in endurance Missions

[grizzled badger]

Ah

[severe bough]

And persistance enables that u can go into endurance

But tbf wouldnt rock that on any other than nidus and inaros since it got nerfed

Anyways

[grizzled badger]

So I decided to go after vanguard for the first time with that build. I hate protea, and ash oneshot me so I couldn't finish it.

So switch persistance for something else?

[flint orbit]

Tbh nekros isn't really a boss dueller, most of your kit does nothing against them

[fierce lark]

maybe im just weird idk but i run shieldgate setups on almost every frame

[severe bough]

The only option is shield gate

[severe bough]

Its the best

[fierce lark]

also have a very low overall opinion of nekros outside of farming

[severe bough]

Shield gating outperformed health gating/tanking another time

Execpt the rewind peristance nerf

[grizzled badger]

It was more I was farming resources and figured I'd try a different node

[fierce lark]

yeah nekros' entire kit is pretty useless against bosses

[severe bough]

Im playing shield gate on grendel

[flint orbit]

Anyways the build kind of has massive anti synergy with dr, armor stacking not being enough to hit breakpoint, persistence tax and really low range for despoil

[fierce lark]

i read a build that ran cata+brief respite on rhino

made me giggle a bit

[severe bough]

Rhino got giga better with expertise

And parasatic armor

[grizzled badger]

Health conversion gets me to the 700, right?

[severe bough]

Yep but heat partiel strips u so arcane is deactived if dont have any immu

[flint orbit]

Yup, the other armor mods are kinda doing nothing since you've got low base armor

[severe bough]

To be safe u need at least 1400

And then theres smth with nuli bubbles and mag procs

[oblique depot]

Which of this 2 rivens should i confirm for the glaive prime?

[severe bough]

And violence shuts the Arcane completely down

Rest and peace

[fierce lark]

does 16 ic even get you to a breakpoint

[flint orbit]

feels like silences shouldn't instantly murder you through your only layer of survivability tbh

Like silence also shuts down shield gating (no skills to restore shields) but they still get the visual of shields breaking to react

[fierce lark]

these both giga turbo suck

[severe bough]

Ask DE why the thought the arcane being to strong

It was so much to invest to anyways

Now we can just hope AST27 forum post carrys and the change it

[fierce lark]

apparently im still running energize on nek

[flint orbit]

Kinda replaceable with blessing tbh, but its also really comfy to get seed energy from your 1st orb

[severe bough]

Use bless

[fierce lark]

i dont see how blessing would be useful on a gating setup

unless the idea is to not get 1shot by toxin eximus

[severe bough]

Ah lmao i thought thats persi

[flint orbit]

Does nekros not run like 200% range normally?

[proven prairie]

So.. I’m using molt augmented and arcane camisado on Uriel. Anyone have suggestions on what to swap out? Outside of arcane hotshot.

[fierce lark]

36m on desecrate is enough to cover any hallways on survival farms

can make an argument for cunning drift but i like big radar

[midnight horizon]

Does guardian armor mod heal much or is it meh

[fierce lark]

i could drop the entire ore gaze gimmick, im not actually sure if it's better loot over just letting things die with the ripkas mod and desecrating

but it's a funnier idea

[timid dust]

What archon shards do i use on my xaku prime

[celest mulch]

Hey guys, I’m wanting to use a uriel build that used hot shot and maybe topaz archon shards to buff critics and that with an occucor and burston, can anyone drop a build that can do like most stuff, I’m hoping to maybe level cap but like I’ll optimize it for level cap later with like rolling guard or that shit

[grizzled badger]

Man, perita lets you live that A10 Warthog dream lol

[severe bough]

Uriel or the weapon builds?

[solar burrow]

Hey can someone give me a wisp build for steel path?

[lofty path]

Does Critical Damage have deminishing returns at some point?

[potent wasp]

what is a good weapon to use when i got infinite ammo on my primary's

[spiral chasm]

Yeah theres a balance of stats that you want if u truly want to min max

Only way to do that is to make a calculation sheet on excel

[velvet pulsar]

Excelibur

[velvet pulsar]

Bubonico alt fire spam
Exergis
Felarx
Vectis (or any sniper with high damage and Charged Chamber mod which increases damage on first bullet)

[quiet laurel]

kuva zarr

and be sure to use white energy

[solemn marten]

yall got build for vinquibus? or recommendation on which yt channel i can find it?

[velvet pulsar]

If you're using Exergis, I hope u have a good way to reduce recoil.

[velvet pulsar]

Good news

We finally got a better arcane option for Nightwatch Napalm

(I know I'm suddenly talking about Kuva Ogris instead of Zarr)

[abstract bison]

is this a good amp build? so base damage, crit chance and multiplier, amp energy and regen, tauron initial charge, and the flex mod would prolly be the white multishot or firerate/efficiency

so 2 madurai, 2 zenurik, 1 naramon?

[long path]

someone here has a good steel path Nekros layout?

[solar sequoia]

Which bronco is better for incarnon? prime or base?

[compact hill]

can someone give me a build for xaku prime for descendia for survivability before reaching floor 19

[astral tinsel]

prime

and it's not even close

[prime lava]

guys please i lowkey need vinquibis build
my vinquibis kinda homeless man please

[honest harness]

can someone give me a volt prime build please

[covert badger]

is this a good wisp with fire blast build or rather a niche build?

[nova swift]

fire blast is kinda niche to begin with esp on wisp (cataclysmic gate procs corrosive with haste mote active) but you can play around with other methods to make cataclysmic gate stronger because it benefits from universal weapon damage buffs (nourish, arcane arachne etc)

[covert badger]

Oh ok, and I thought with archon Vitality and fire blast you can do something?

[nova swift]

you would get double fire procs yea, but the damage from fire blast isnt that great its mostly for the augment to give overshields and the armor strip

[covert badger]

Wow at the end, just nourish all over again

[nova swift]

the fire procs from cataclysmic are pretty good though, I would say vitality is worth on those

[strong marsh]

you guys reckon i should keep viral heat or swich back to toxic blast on saryn with venom dose

[plain drum]

is primary debilitate better than shotgun vendetta for phantasma?

[noble depot]

Is there a way to calculate the final stats if an unranked riven?

[midnight horizon]

Does arcane ice storm trigger on weapon freeze procs

[rigid venture]

Yo when I use nekros 3rd ability how long does it last or how does it work

Does it stay active for a while or I use every time a enemy comes in range

[fathom gyro]

Do you have the Despoil augment?

If so it just stays on

[velvet pulsar]

Yes

[midnight horizon]

Awesome

Also, is gauss aegis still a thing

Or has DE shadownerfed it yet

[crimson osprey]

Do u have the stance?

[prime lava]

too many of them lol

[crimson osprey]

Well thats impressive- what weapon use do you need a build for?

[prime lava]

why tho its not that rare

do you have a build for me :)

[crimson osprey]

Ive still not come across it and built my weapon

[velvet pulsar]

Still a thing

[wanton raptor]

can someone here check my math for me

im trying to figure out exactly how much armour my valkyr has during warcry and then during hysteria but im really bad at figuring this up

[lost drift]

Bow can kill level cap 🤓

[wanton raptor]

this is what it says the equation in.

i have 308% ability strength, base armour is 1k, my umbral fiber gives 163%.

with warcry active it says armour increase is 154%. my math comes out to 4170, is that correct?

[slender yarrow]

I love my Crepuscular 4 purple shard funny sword man (forgot to bring my Epitaph to prime em, while using cond.overload lmao)

[wanton lotus]

guys did anyone have a good build for khora prime to farm in steel path and can to send me?

[cinder thistle]

aye I just slotted Arcane Expertise on my Styanax which gives me 308 % extra Crit chance with my passive. Double for spearguns.

Now i have Tennet Ferrox slotted. 34 % base CC.

so : 34% × (1 + 200% (crit delay)+ 636% (passive) = 318 % Crit chance

yet I don't always red crit ???

I'm i missing something ? or I'm I dumb ? Or is crit chance broken ?

[dusty summit]

Has anyone used Secondary irradiate

[solar sequoia]

Got it tks

[sick canyon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1337875535899922535/1449742607973482637/image.png?ex=69400184&is=693eb004&hm=bf4ae8c158e1fbae2cbb6e2c6ba01191ab96df692eb21b81fbdf263605dd637a&

[nova swift]

accumulating whipclaw is the same multiplier as power strength, so you dont need all that much

Influence whipclaw for straight damage and so you can proc archon stretch for energy easily

huras/shade for perma invis so you can keep spamming your whipclaw without being seen

for shards 1 casting speed feels nice, rest can be crit damage purples

[midnight horizon]

How about catalyzing shields still giving 1.33s regardless of how much I actually regen?

[sinful mural]

Sampotes build

[astral tinsel]

still a thing

and like 90% of end-game builds rely on it, so it's unlikely to go anywhere

[midnight horizon]

Then what's stopping me from just using that + 1 augur mod to regen shields by spamming mach rush

[velvet pulsar]

Still works

[midnight horizon]

I don't wanna rely on aegis ngl so I might just spam cata

[velvet pulsar]

Only energy limit

[velvet pulsar]

Also aegis is perma active on that one

[midnight horizon]

-# I don't like relying on bugs ngl

But I also wish kinetic isn't scaling off of enemy damage bro

Why can't it just be 1-5% per hit? Just per hit

[astral tinsel]

the 1.33s thing is a bug too so

[midnight horizon]

Yeah I know

So uh

I don't really like these two options

But I also don't like kinetic all that much either

[midnight horizon]

Do you think persistence can slow down the damage on his kinetic?

It says 0.1% x √(hit damage) so what if persistence only limits it to 0.1% x √(500)

[wanton lotus]

ty

[oblique scroll]

Did DE say anything about the tauron mod slots?

The update notes say they're supposed to have 6 mod slots even though they have 5

[nova swift]

during the stream they did mention 5, I also noticed some other update notes being incorrect

[oblique scroll]

Fair enough

[nova swift]

I think they did a rebalancing and didnt update all the notes

[astral tinsel]

no clue, could be worth testing

[slate grove]

what do you guys think is there any better torid build?

im playing it with uriel

[hard ravine]

im trying to find a cool weapon other than vinqubis for uriel for me to use, bc apparently incarnon weapons dont work with ur little ritualist? are there and demonic vibe weapons or flamethrowerd that work in sp well. or should i just ignore the fact it doesn give me fire dmg and go for incarnon

[nova swift]

Yea the "elemental ammo" type from cyte, oraxia and uriel dont work with incarnon modes

[teal hazel]

Trumna prime

I don't have a ton of good mods but it's a work in progress

[plain drum]

chat how do we feel about wolf sledge right now

[tulip sequoia]

Guys for felarx which's the best arcane? Primary crux or shotgun vendetta rank 1?

[dawn dome]

this is so dumb

[drowsy herald]

What's a good arcane for archguns. I tried the new one which increases damage upto 500% with armor scaling but it doesn't work well with frames with low armor

[near vortex]

Secondary Irradiate Primary Debilitate Larkspur Prime

[slender yarrow]

This is so stupid, I love it

[hollow quiver]

got 4 tauforged archon shards for ability strength and 1 for casting speed, did i overdo it on the strength and should i swap something for survivability?

[drowsy herald]

Will it work on mausolon?

[velvet pulsar]

By the void!
I just opened Larkspur upgrade screen and thought about this, then here I read this.

Imagine the damage instances

Larkspur DoTs will Quadruple dip on roar.

[coral notch]

this is my wisp build so far, what should I put in the extra spots and should I replace anything or is it okay looking so far?

i dont have too many arcanes so just ignore whatevers there for now

[hidden pier]

how does this build look

[solar dust]

considering her healing mote gives flat health, armour is better than health to mod on her for ur effective HP. put adapation on over vitality and drop primed redirection too. get some decent range for breach surge. What level content are u using this in? Heres my wisp build (WIP i need more forma)

[dense junco]

What is the best Operator Arcanes?

[valid cargo]

I hope ninjase is here

If so its 2 yellows 3 reds?

Is this good for gyre?

[near vortex]

Magus Anomaly and whatever fits your build

Apparently Melee Careen damage boost is actually faction damage

Meaning it double dips status DoTs

[velvet pulsar]

Does it pass on to exalteds not having the arcane?

If yes, does having 2 of these arcanes double stack?

Now that I think about it...
Maybe secondary surge also double dips DoTs

[novel crown]

Is there any usual ways to gain cc for secondary thats not archons,arcanes or mods

[coral notch]

tyy and im trying to get stuff to be strong enough for sp content but when I look at her builds, everyone builds her differently so idk whats most important for her

[velvet pulsar]

Puncture priming

[solar dust]

tbh for base steel path just get some decent strength for the buffs, get archon stretch (shock mote is electric so u will have unlimited energy with this, plus range is nice for ur 3 and motes), and then get some duration. Ur survivability will be adaptation + vit mote + shock mote stun + kill everything. Ur invis when airborne so just bullet jump if ur low

[drowsy mauve]

How good is this build?

[left kindle]

what would be a good mod for the last slot

[quick elk]

Does anyone know how much Nidus' first ability benefits from mutation stacks? Considering running abundant mutation but I'm not sure of it's value

[teal hazel]

what’s a good primary mod to use for increasing your base damage besides like amalgam serration cause I wanna make an insane amount of damage, but I don’t really have that many mods

[leaden estuary]

is it intetended that an elemental mag buff (Like uriels 3) doesn't work on coda bassocyst? i thought the only thing it didn't work on was incarnons

[astral tinsel]

for non-AoE weapons, Galvanized Aptitude

or an arcane

[velvet pulsar]

For AoE, use the corrupted mod which reduced accuracy

[velvet pulsar]

Today I somehow made it work on Burston Incarnon for just once accidentally, then it failed every other time

[cloud token]

Anyone have a good Dual Tox build? Preferably that doesn't rely on Smite 🙁

[kindred folio]

Got a god roll on my nataruk riven

[teal hazel]

Ty

[tepid arch]

Does anyone have a secondary irradiate build for the dex pixia?

This is my current build

[heavy pebble]

anyone that has good boss killing weapons/builds for me? cant seem to kill the new bosses alone or the prime frames

most of my weapons are build towards big hordes of enemies, wouldnt know how to build against bosses

[deep grotto]

I know Tenet Detron is the ideal secondary for PT
But can i use the Mara instead?

Like, as a substitute?

[blissful badge]

any good endgame vinquibus builds?

[covert badger]

how good is this gyre prime build, especially pillage and both agument mods

[heavy pebble]

PT?

[deep grotto]

Profit Taker

[heavy pebble]

ait, was that comment ment for me? bc i want talking about profit taker

[wild rune]

Sicarus Prime Incarnoff has dethroned it

[mighty flare]

It’s never been ideal, I can never remember a moment when it was

[deep grotto]

Nah, just something in general

[wild rune]

Tenet was ideal for a while before people started using the Diplos, and now the Sicarus Prime

[deep grotto]

got recommended tenet detron either here or on PT website because of ms and status chance iirc

[wild rune]

it's still good for PT, just not ideal anymore

[mighty flare]

Status chance?

[deep grotto]

Yuh

[wild rune]

if you have access to Sicarus Prime with the incarnon genesis, use that
Tenet Diplos is the second option, followed by Tenet Detron

Mara Detron is waaaay down on the list

[mighty flare]

That doesn’t matter for pt

[deep grotto]

The point was so that it could nail any status available, no?
That’s what i remember at least

[wild rune]

PT is immune to statuses, the advantage of adversary weapons is the element bonus

[severe bough]

Diplos or sicariusOff were the best ones

[severe bough]

You always will be missing toxin

U need a occ with opticor

[deep grotto]

I sees

[severe bough]

Anyways

[mighty flare]

Pt doesn’t take statuses, you just use elements for the raw dmg type

[severe bough]

But occ is currently completely disabled

[deep grotto]

Ive been able to use occ sometimes

[severe bough]

Yo yo meat do u got a kuva ogris cyte build?

[mighty flare]

Or just don’t be a loner and have a buddy

[severe bough]

I take that personal

[mighty flare]

https://tenor.com/view/zazu-gif-8111977976091427580

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-reaction-meme-stan-twitter-funny-stressed-gif-7713976294327515532

[mighty flare]

For what? Just gen?

[severe bough]

Nah ogris cyte i assume its almost the same as zarr and bramma but ogris cc sucks

[mighty flare]

Yeah it’s the same thing but drop crit mods
However, napalm doesn’t take resupply no?

[severe bough]

Thats what i got speed trigger is flex over bane ig

[velvet pulsar]

It doesn't

[severe bough]

Wait let me try

[velvet pulsar]

Resupply doesn't work on NN

[severe bough]

Whyy🥀

[velvet pulsar]

Now, answer my question:
Does secondary irradiate and primary deb not work against enemies capped at 4 stacks of statuses?

[mighty flare]

Mfw 10 stack requirement

🥀

[severe bough]

Reading these days

[quiet laurel]

cause DEs coding is very consistent

[velvet pulsar]

cause DEs coding is very consistent

[severe bough]

Either im dumb or it still does work

[severe bough]

Everytime i go into the game my settings are changed🥀

[velvet pulsar]

U say as if DE delivers what they intend

[severe bough]

Ah now i understood nn procs doesnt take resupply into account

What a sh

[quiet laurel]

but it takes TL into account, saryn wins once again

[severe bough]

Ammo problems real🥀

[velvet pulsar]

My guess, resupply has been hitting enemy's center of mass before recent patch

Neither xata nor TL did that?

[severe bough]

Whats the build for saryn ogris

I need something Special

[velvet pulsar]

Primary Deb + spores

[echo lava]

does anyone have a protea prime build i could try

[severe bough]

And the other half

[undone dust]

i didnt think of saryn with debil, holy moly

[velvet pulsar]

10-14 corrosive stacks afterwards get turned into toxin electric

[severe bough]

Holy skibdi

[undone dust]

ive just been thinking of lavos LMAO

what are some other frames that are good with debil?

[kind marten]

Okay, clearly not ideal, but disregarding that, thoughts?

[velvet pulsar]

Lavos is the only guy who can probably make blast deb work

[undone dust]

he is, but it's still not as good

gas is funny though

[velvet pulsar]

Shotguns

[undone dust]

oh true

[velvet pulsar]

Each pellet force procs

One-shot from kuva hek alt fire: 100+ forced procs

[undone dust]

me when i overload a butcher with every element on the periodic table and they just explode:

[velvet pulsar]

Now do this with gas

[undone dust]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-evaporation-evaporate-evaporated-team-fortress-2-gif-3601728232153696258

[velvet pulsar]

The true Swampfire build

[drowsy mauve]

Okay
51 slide kills down (love octavia prime <3)

[velvet pulsar]

U got poison
U got flame
U got gas

[drowsy mauve]

Even got a kuva lich rival who has the kuva kohm

[undone dust]

having mag/viral on a primary primer with debil seems goated

[velvet pulsar]

what else is goated?
Tenet Glaxion

[drowsy mauve]

Okay
How popular is Baza?

[velvet pulsar]

U can now use tenet glaxion's augment without needing cold

[undone dust]

thank god because i hated needing a cold sentinel primer if i used that

[velvet pulsar]

I recommend a viral build with magnetic progenitor

[undone dust]

not running crux on glaxion makes
me fart in sadness though

pure blast glaxion my beloved

[velvet pulsar]

Blast won't proc debil

U don't "exceed" 10 blast procs

[undone dust]

yeah i know, im just saying not running crux makes me bummed but i do enjoy more options

[velvet pulsar]

Blast removes itself when it reaches 10

There's also another forbidden build

[undone dust]

how does cedo's glaive perform with debil?

[severe bough]

Ogris saryn kinda nice but

[velvet pulsar]

Acid Shells...

[undone dust]

im sobeking it so hard

[severe bough]

Meh zarr cyte

Better

[mighty flare]

It does, you just get 1 heat or cold

[velvet pulsar]

Acid Shells can likely proc debil

[severe bough]

Did they said smth about lingering fix?

[velvet pulsar]

That's a pity reward

[severe bough]

Mabye next updated ?

[velvet pulsar]

Nothing

[severe bough]

Mhm sad

Time to play pt or meta arbi

[velvet pulsar]

Although gas got a bit of issues fixed thx to primary debil

[severe bough]

Ohh wait... occ and specs are disabled

🥀

[severe bough]

Where to even use debil

[velvet pulsar]

U dare insult disabled people like that!!

[undone dust]

LMAO

[velvet pulsar]

Cyte Acid Shells can use it with a hound primer

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/post-this-cat-ryujinr-grey-cat-gif-13471549557469691566

[velvet pulsar]

...like I said, forbidden build

[severe bough]

So just use debil in arcane slot?

[velvet pulsar]

Atleast Acid Shells finally has one potential arcane to affect it

Although I won't use debil & irradiate together in a loadout except archgun.

They shall remain mutually exclusive for either primary or secondary

[velvet pulsar]

How about another option...

Primary Overcharge

Very fitting for tenet glaxion

[hollow condor]

R8 my build plz 🥺

[wild rune]

missing a helminth invigoration for +1000 health

also missing carapace mods

6/10 build smh

[hollow condor]

I guess i'll go farm the carapace mods. Not in view is the coda hirudo for health regen and further health boosting :(

[hybrid marsh]

Forgot I had a triple umbral Wisp

It’s health tanking time

[jagged mauve]

hi I need some info regarding Archon flow and melee careen, does killing enemies frozen by melee careen count as a "killed by cold" condition? or does it specifically mean that is has to be a cold tick for the effect to happen?

[wicked scaffold]

do yall run helminths on citrine or no
all of the abilities are so good ,.,,

[wild rune]

it has to be from an ability that inflicts Cold damage or statuses

you are wrong on both accounts

[jagged mauve]

dang

[spark tartan]

Did something change with Nullstar? Can't seem to get it to inherit electric through Gyre's 1 Augment

[jagged mauve]

alright another day another archon flow just used on lavos or gauss or smthn

[green solstice]

ok I just want to understand the arcane

to reach the 10 stacks its best to just run one combine element?

[jagged mauve]

if you reach max stacks of a combined element, your next status will inflict one of its base element

so if you have capped at 10 corro, you inflict tox or electric

kinda fun on torid (non incarnon mode), I just put 2 grenades on a group of enemies and they just chain react themselves to death with a corroblast build lol

I love corro blast with it idk why

the only two combined id use with the arcane

if like, u have enough status chance and aoe

or beam chaining length

with less status just stick with corro heat or corro alone

depends, literally have to test around in the sim, spent hours just testing it on multiple weapons

one ytber said if ur weapon is good with primary crux build, it probably is with primary debilitate too, tried and ye kinda tru

mb that was too much yap

[frigid crater]

Xaku is nuts

Anyway i hate a question that might sound strange

Is there a primary, melee or even pet that can apply 10 stacks of rad really fast?

[hollow condor]

A few, nukor for one, but pets can be set up for really good status priming as well. For secondary irradiate it can be inconsistent to use pets though

[spark tartan]

torid, ocucor epitaph

[foggy bolt]

atomos, kompressa

[frigid crater]

Cedo can also transmit a lot of status effects right

[green solstice]

cant we just take lavos or cyte as example?

[frigid crater]

Even if i play lavos i dont know If he can get 10 status effects super fast

And If i would use the build im thinking about, It would take a specific seccondary that cant prime & 10 stacks of radiation very fast

[hollow condor]

his augment lets you have guaranteed status procs on all your weapon hits

[frigid crater]

Oh yeah forgot how his augment is op

Then i finally have

THE SECCONDARY IRRADIATE DUAL TOXOCYST BUILD

[broken cliff]

Are mercy kills and finishers the same thing. I’m doing a build with marked for death and dizzying rounds and it says mercy whenever I stun them is that counting as a finisher or no?

[frigid crater]

Finishers are thing that dont trigger that special cutscene i think

So like If the enemy is CC by abilities such as radial blind or knocked down

[foggy bolt]

yea but it's best for variety priming iirc

[torpid oar]

guys how do i play dante

[lofty oriole]

Question to all: would you remove Umbra's... umbra polarity slots?

[frigid crater]

2+2+4
2+3+4
3+2+4
3+3+4
3+3+4
3+3+4

[quiet laurel]

yes, or just play normal excal

[frigid crater]

Yes, they suck for builds

[torpid oar]

ust spam this?

[frigid crater]

Y e a h

[inland quartz]

This should be illegal

[torpid oar]

alr thanks

[foggy bolt]

I've seen a lot of people drop 2 of them but most people just play base excal

[broken cliff]

I see, I’ll have to mess around with it because the goal is to use a rapier to get the slash proc on finisher but if it dosent count as a finisher than idk if I’ll get the slash

[frigid crater]

I think by void slinging into enemies you open them for enemies extremely easy

[hollow condor]

Man, my hildryn has no shields and just 2.5k health

[reef leaf]

Does Helminth-ing over one of Uriel's abilities negatively impact his passive minions?

[frigid crater]

" jacobs ladder "
And you're down to 0 in 2 sec's

[torpid oar]

alr but do i play wisp like this?
Drop motes
Keep bsurge active
Cast 2 when you need to not die
Subsume off 4 for like roar
haste and shoc kare the most important in sp but u can always drop vitality
if u have to move jsut recast em
try to be in air most of the time cus her passive makes her invisible in air

[inland quartz]

Tbh i prefer omni forma for more variety, umbra forma limits your mod slots significantly if the frames main focus is umbra mods. Like my vauben which primarily works best with umbral mods

[inland quartz]

Dont worry ill pillage the villages and watch them burn

[foggy bolt]

no clue but I've heard that his 1 is the best place to put one

[frigid crater]

Honestly, pretty much
But there is an alternative If you're using duration wisp and dont wanna be jumping like a bunny

Wisp 2 makes her invisible from just existing, not humping
So you can just spam her 2 and enemies will never see you

[lofty oriole]

Yeah i was thinking about omni-ing his umbral slots ^ ^"

[frigid crater]

And wisp 4th ability isnt so useless after the augment she got

[deep grotto]

I personally wouldn’t, but it’s up to you

[frigid crater]

So if you want you can do a non-helminth wisp with the 4's augment, spam your 2nd, keep breach surge active and enemies wont have a chance to shoot you

Its up to you tho, wisp has a lot more ways to play her than people think

[torpid oar]

So like
Drop motes
Keep bsurge active
Cast 2 when you need to not die
Subsume off 4 for like roar
haste and shoc kare the most important in sp but u can always drop vitality
if u have to move jsut recast em
try to be in air most of the time cus her passive makes her invisible in air or spam 2 to be invisible without jumping

[frigid crater]

Yep, pretty much

[torpid oar]

Should I subsume wisp's 4th tho?

Like what's the best option for me?

[frigid crater]

I recommend doing 2 builds for her

1 has her 4th and the other doesn't

[torpid oar]

2 wisps?

[hollow condor]

I like the augment for her 4, but you gotta also do what feels best for you and how you play

[frigid crater]

Put nourish or Roar over her 4th in the First build and test It with her 4's augment in the second

[frigid crater]

Any warframe can have up to 3 builds

[foggy bolt]

two configs

[torpid oar]

Honestly idk I'm trying to get tips so I don't regret anything

[torpid oar]

Wait if I did subsumed then switched to another config it will be back to normal?

[frigid crater]

There's no regretting with wisp, she's a no brainner

[foggy bolt]

you can take subsumes of just costs some basic materials

[foggy bolt]

each config can have its own subsume

[frigid crater]

only bad wisp build there are is probably " efficiency wisp "

[torpid oar]

Oh that makes me not to sorry a bit

[torpid oar]

I guess?
Alright I'll search for build and see what I can do I'll first subsume then see how it goes thanks!

[frigid crater]

NP, have fun being a support that kills everything before the team can even shoot

[torpid oar]

Haha yeah I hope it goes well

[foggy bolt]

wisp is alot of fun and can do some neat stuff

[torpid oar]

It's just confusing for me as to what to keep on doing

[foggy bolt]

fair enough

feel free to ask questions

[frigid crater]

I really like her 2 augment

Makes breach surge Teleport have a use AND makes her a crit buffer

A shame It needs LoS

[foggy bolt]

you mean her 3 augment

[frigid crater]

Isnt invis her 2nd

Wait the augment is for breach surge????

[foggy bolt]

her 2 doesn't have augments

[frigid crater]

Jesus i thought It was for will o wisp

My wisp knoledge is washed

[jagged mauve]

does arcane circumvent have a cap on armor stolen?

[foggy bolt]

no clue lemme look at the wiki

awesome it doesn't have a page yet

[frigid crater]

Probably the cap is:
" As long as there's an enemy in front of you "

[jagged mauve]

trying out a sevagoth build where I have shadow with persistence + circumvent, and his claws with melee careen, just thought rolling around armor strip + freezing is fun, it's not meant to nuke, it's good single target dmg or grouping enemies with 1 and apply 3

[foggy bolt]

yea it's likely pretty laxed

[jagged mauve]

sadly persistence dont work with overguard but its ok

[foggy bolt]

I thought the point was to steal overguard

[jagged mauve]

I go 1 > roll 2x > 3 > melee/heavy/tennokai

yee

just thought it'd be fun if I have a roll, ima just use the other roll thing, all in 1 kit, dk im not into the idea of having to rely on stat sticks

havent tried on excal yet tho

[hollow condor]

The arcane persistance nerf has ruined my build potential\

[jagged mauve]

and if I die with sevagoth, shadow is gonna be safe for me

[jagged mauve]

what u building?

[hollow condor]

Hildryn

[jagged mauve]

oh BRUH

[foggy bolt]

the nerf is like non existent if you actually pay attention to the game

[jagged mauve]

yep

but hildryn tho 🤔

[foggy bolt]

you need shields to cast abilities are you actually insane/stupid

[jagged mauve]

he/she might be cooking

[hollow condor]

I'm feeling really attacked rn, theres no need to be mean :(

[foggy bolt]

I'm just questioning sanity

[jagged mauve]

we all started from eating poisonous things like chili, chocolate, and caffeine, and liked it, nothing wrong with persistence hildryn

cook brother

[hollow condor]

I think if I slot in rolling guard and just keep an extremely close eye on my ability bar to see when the 60 eye nukes my "abilities" away i'll be fine

[foggy bolt]

alright then

sure go for it gang

[jagged mauve]

yes

then use her on hijack

[hollow condor]

sorry for having fun :(

[hollow condor]

Unironically, using the hirudo you become unkillable outside of nullification

[foggy bolt]

your all good just seems insane to remove shields from the frame that needs shields to function

[hollow condor]

Yeah man its crazy, its almost like i'm doing a meme build or something for fun

[jagged mauve]

would be cool to still convert shields to armor if it's just gonna be gone anyway hm

[foggy bolt]

I too love meme builds (shieldgate inaros)

sorry for being mean

[jagged mauve]

I just realized I can finally deal something with overguarded enemies when sevagoth is dead and I am in shadow form to revive, normally you cant revive from overguarded enemies, now I can strip it in shadow revive, wont get instakilled too cus of careen freezing, and overguard incase there is some bs aoe aura that kills me even if they are frozen

life support premium

[hollow condor]

With the coda hirudo, i'm hitting about 2.7k health with 952 armor, with health conversion that jumps to 2302 armor, and I just hit a 20m damage proc off the hirudo

[jagged mauve]

can you run basmu with that

with the augment, ig any weapon that scales with health + armor is gonna be cool

[hollow condor]

You kinda need to be able to regen more than 500 health a second, basmu would heal, but probably wouldnt keep up with steel path

[jagged mauve]

true

primary bulwark with dreadful killshot would be fun (? maybe)

eh so much dimishing returns, 360% dmg dreadful killshot and 500% from bulwark is just gonna add

[fallow shale]

What would be better on Valkyr: Jade's Ophanim Eyes, or Oberon's Smite?

[hollow condor]

Yeah, the limiting factor of this build on hildryn is really going to be the sources of healing. Especially because i'm flexing such a limited healthpool and cant even use abilities

[jagged mauve]

how does ophanim eyes work? sorry I dont have jade yet

[hollow condor]

Armor strips when you look at things

[fallow shale]

And slows them a bit, but I'm mostly there for the armor strip

[jagged mauve]

dang, really doubles down on the mom theme

I kinda like smite removing overguard

idk how to work around radiation but even universal fallout is useless, valkyr is just gonna have rage or hunter adrenaline anyway

[foggy bolt]

it's also a good nuke if u do viral priming

[jagged mauve]

yeah, now I'm kinda thinking about viral tempest with oberon...

[foggy bolt]

viral tempest has always been good with Oberon

[jagged mauve]

oh dang, if it's already known then I have been missing out xD

[blissful badge]

I feel like vinquibus is underwhelming, I cant find a good build for it

[fallow shale]

The way I play Valkyr rn is use the Eyes, followed by Warcry and Paralysis

[foggy bolt]

just nobody used to talk about oberon

[jagged mauve]

doesnt valkyr have a slow already?

[jagged mauve]

true yeah, he's been shelved for me, I only use as support in eido runs

[fallow shale]

Slow + slow = even slower

[jagged mauve]

that is true

[foggy bolt]

no clue but she would likely prefer a grouping ability/tool

[jagged mauve]

funny nova + gloom typa situation

isn't there a cap

oh also terrify slow

[foggy bolt]

I dislike slows they are annoying

[jagged mauve]

I usually dont like slows, even on nova, but I find it necessary is some frames like on my excal

just 100% range is enough

[fallow shale]

This is my current configuration for my Valkyr

[jagged mauve]

lol peculiar mods

wish there was a seperate hidden slot for that

[fallow shale]

Its my M1 Grand ping

Yeah, it would be nice if they added a cosmetic mod slot

[jagged mauve]

ig they are afraid of saryn + peculiar growth appearing everywhere

[fallow shale]

Omg, Saryn becomes the Flood

Someone, prime the Halos

[jagged mauve]

ohh I never used enraged b4

does that make her 4 like a timer?

what's ur talons

[crimson osprey]

Hey are there any ash mains here?

[fallow shale]

This, but with the two Unbral melee mods

[crimson osprey]

Im curious about a blade storm ashs survival- is it strictly based off being invisible?

[jagged mauve]

idk how to feel with -range when u want slow and to armor strip

[jagged mauve]

yes

while u kil

[fallow shale]

I mostly melee, so I'm gonna be in the sh!t up close and personal anyway

[crimson osprey]

I usually play tanky frames.. is there anyway or use in putting ajy defensive mods on like adaptation or something? Im using wrathful advance as ashs 1 skill so abilities are out unfortunately.. maybe lifestrike or something on a tennokai weapon?

[jagged mauve]

for me I'd go just fine with primed continuity, there is also an option to get arcane concentration which is now easy to get due to one method in the latest mode, cast 1 cheap ability first, and then snapshot that dur on to ur 4 (VALKYR COMMENT)

[jagged mauve]

unfortunately I don't think he can go with a health tanking build, even with that abysmal base armor and ig decent base health

i replied to the wroong person mb

[hollow condor]

I think ive disproven any concerns about health tanking with any frame ngl

[crimson osprey]

Or maybe arcane? I'm using arcane fury+molt augmented atm

[thick seal]

sup
so this is my gauss prime build, wanted to know what to change
pretty sure i can easily get rid of icestorm just dont know what to change it for
i think i can also remove augur message since i have molt efficency
and im struggling with energy, and i also have only 94% strength, which i guess its bad
shards are energy, duration, shield, energy, and corrosive stacks respectively

[jagged mauve]

u rely alot on dur for ash for invis, or u can get that augment that extends the smokescreen with kills I think

[jagged mauve]

yeah that's pretty good, I run fury + crepuscular for me

I dont run wrathful, and if I do ofc usual crit build, but for my case, the crit is so bad, u can actually go melee duplicate

[hollow condor]

Does the bladestorm break the invis from shade/huras kubrows?

[jagged mauve]

thaaat I dunno hmm

idk if it acts the same as skiajati's invis passive

cus at the time before exalted rework and stack sticks were used, I used skiajati and bladestorm to have an extra emergency invis incase smokescreen is out

even tho its stats are bad for stat sticks

might not break the stealth I guess

[jagged mauve]

I think you will like this arcane

[thick seal]

OOOO.

[jagged mauve]

dang, ice storm, im bad at using that effectively

but now with the new arcane ig u can go molt augmented too

[jagged mauve]

from the new update sold by roathe, decendia start from lyon and hope you have nuke frame like xaku, or someone else have a xaku to break all the canisters

[severe bough]

Use aegis and fast deflection

[jagged mauve]

^ or that, I also use

[foggy bolt]

no sprint speed aura?

[crimson osprey]

I dont have that maxed out arcane but I'll look at it and I have that tp augment

[jagged mauve]

mine, dk how to work around strength honestly

[severe bough]

If your nuking str isnt that needed

[jagged mauve]

yep

I just changed it from 40%

this is better

[thick seal]

i dont think its necessary

[jagged mauve]

max vital not necessary, just for the heat passive

[foggy bolt]

it's guass were talking about you want all that sprint speed

[jagged mauve]

i'd just get more range LOL

[thick seal]

does that fix the energy issue?

and how if so

[foggy bolt]

in what world are we getting range from an aura

[severe bough]

It makes u immortal with gauss

[jagged mauve]

exilus, thought u meant Rush on his exilus

[thick seal]

ooh shield gating

[severe bough]

https://overframe.gg/build/591347/gauss-prime/electromagnetic-accelerator-general-use-sp-gauss-hybrid-weapon-platform-sunder-nuke/

if u scroll down u find variants also nuking

[foggy bolt]

looks at guass passive

[severe bough]

Not really your basically immortal due to his passive

[jagged mauve]

yes, makes u have 0 shield recharge delay cus of his passive

• fast deflection

[severe bough]

Edger of the immortals

[jagged mauve]

it's like inaros with arcane grace

[thick seal]

yeah ill do that

still uncomfortable with the energy issue tho

or strength too

[severe bough]

Try to be pos efficiency

[jagged mauve]

yee pretty much just get flow and streamline

cant have all in 1 build with him, either go nuker or another build (I only know nuke, don't pay attention to my Null Star)

[severe bough]

Platf gauss>>

[jagged mauve]

mhmm arcane hotshot

yes

[foggy bolt]

I'm a big fan of weapons platform gauss

[jagged mauve]

im stupid I dont have thermal transfer yet

I shall get later

[foggy bolt]

you don't need it to proc hotshot but it's a good mod

[jagged mauve]

no problem proccing hotshot, just the thermal transfer I want if I want to go weapons platform

heat or blast, either

[gray quarry]

Did they change that?

[lost hull]

Far as I'm aware, no

[jagged mauve]

just checked patch notes and there is no history of changes ever since 2015

[gray quarry]

Huh, could’ve sworn cunning drift never gave ability range

[fallow shale]

This is the current Paracesis build I use with Valkyr, and it also served as the base of her Talons build

[lost hull]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[gray quarry]

Hmmmmmm

[eternal ginkgo]

what stats are good to focus on with uriel?

[wary night]

how do yall feel ab me subsuming gloom from sevagoth and putting it on my caliban's 1? 🤔

[mighty flare]

Strength, then duration/range

[fierce lark]

thoughts on throwing 1 equi shard on qorvex rather than spending a whole mod slot? something to do with the hp orbs generated by companions at least, fallout takes care of most energy issues

[foggy bolt]

would prob work fine

[tranquil plover]

how can i improve this, i made it on my own w no guides

[gray quarry]

Probably would be a waste of a subsume, since his 1 gives health and shields back on hitting anything, also energy

[tranquil plover]

valk prime btw

[foggy bolt]

not related to the build it's self but in the future could you make the first screen cap get the name and abilities/stats page

[tranquil plover]

oh okay, uhh i dont have any subsumes if you wondering

[foggy bolt]

ok

[gray quarry]

More tau purples purples is the main thing I see

I’d suggest taking some things off for others, but it’d be my opinion

[narrow pulsar]

the best build to melt the new old peace bosses

[tranquil plover]

okay

i do find her damage lacking, and im always out of energy

[gray quarry]

Share your talons build

[fierce lark]

umbral intensify over archon, valkyr cant proc it

would drop the armor/health mods, valkyr base armor maxes out battery as is

[gray quarry]

Imma go double check this(the archon intensify)

[fierce lark]

i did before mentioning

talons healing doesn't proc it, no exalted weapon does

[viscid wagon]

is this channel appropriate to ask for opinions on rivens?

[fierce lark]

they're build items, so, probably

[severe bough]

Send it in

[gray quarry]

(In the section of can proc it)

[fierce lark]

this is why fandom needs to go

[gray quarry]

That’s not the fandom

It’s the official warframe wiki

[fierce lark]

yes i know, im saying fandom says the opposite thing, and unfortunately it's the first link that comes up so it's likely the one that gets clicked on far more, even though i know the wiki is more accurate

[gray quarry]

It’s atleast worth testing to double check

[frozen island]

any good alternox build?

[gray quarry]

Ah

[ornate echo]

what mods are best for finisher kills?

there's finisher dmg but do i care about status or crit?

for sp

[buoyant plaza]

I'm trying to make a loadout for my gyre prime. I was planning on running her with the vadarya prime because it seems synergistic and thematically fitting, but I find the damage fairly lackluster.

Builds attached in pictures. Shards are 2 tau purple with primary electricity and 1 normal 1 tau with ability damage and 1 tau red strength.

I just equipped primary overcharge but haven't tested yet. Used to run deadhead.

Idk where that third Pic came from lol

[gray quarry]

I do agree with saryn about the umbral fiber being dropped, warcry increases her armor by quite a bit and most things that need armor cap out at valkyrs armor anyway I believe

[fierce lark]

her base armor is 1k, battery cap is 1k and if you wanted to run persistance that's only 750

[gray quarry]

700

[fierce lark]

if you're having energy issues, preparation is an instant fix

[gray quarry]

But yeah

[tranquil plover]

oh yeah my talons build, i should post that

[fierce lark]

prep + battery = you start the mission with over 1k energy, should be more than enough to self sustain

[tranquil plover]

so drop archon stronk, and umbral armor

[fierce lark]

galv steel in place of organ shatter, 60/60 toxin mod instead of fever strike for more elec weighting and status probably

[gray quarry]

Melee influence? Not really the best for her

Unless you wanna run it, I think I have a build somewhere

[gray quarry]

Archon intensify is fine, tho worth testing anyway

[fierce lark]

obligatory tennokai in exilus mention

[tranquil plover]

what aura should i use

[tranquil plover]

more like mandatory, i always gotta use those

[fierce lark]

pretty flexible, corrosive projection is my choice for melee frames that can't strip

[gray quarry]

I just run steel charge, more capacity

[viscid wagon]

anyone knows if this is remotely decent?

[fierce lark]

i see +zoom and i immediately don't want to slot it even if the other 2 stats are good lol

[viscid wagon]

yeah, that sucks

at least it's for a sniper rifle

[shell tundra]

Sagek Prime build?

[fierce lark]

probably just this

[wild rune]

underrated weapon
+zoom makes it very clunky to slot

[fierce lark]

same as most pistols, just replacing the + status mods with other mods since it has no status chance

if you have nourish you can drop the viral mods for faction mod/magnetic might/merciless gunfight

though it's probably not a gun i would invest an insane amount of forma into, seems pretty mid

[fluid vigil]

Can someone help me this is my acceltra prime build but im not getting much damage the highest dmg ive seen from it is only 500-600k

[fathom ravine]

stupid question how does Arcane Persistence act on nezhas warding halo? . with umbral armor and warding halo the armor value of nezha should be something like (300+100%)x2.5 = 1500 and with the halso 90% damage redirection and arcane limiting damage to 500 to hp...would that make the max damage in any time nezha can take directly to 50dmg/s? . or am i missing something...i know that magnetic proc does disable this but with halo you are status immune

[gray quarry]

Persistence works after all damage reduction effects

[foggy bolt]

it takes place after the dr

[fathom ravine]

but still would act well with warding halo cause it would take weakness of magnetic proc out?

(ofc nullbubbles are diff in this regard)

[gray quarry]

Warding halo would nullfiy the magnetic weakness

[fathom ravine]

also how does it act on when u have like 18mil of halo hp. does it also cap hits on that or just purely health

sry dum questions 😄

[midnight horizon]

Say you got 20M halo hp. Then you take 20M damage. Halo takes 90% of incoming damage meaning it takes 18M from that 20M damage, leaving it with only 2M halo hp left. That also means there's 2M damage that bypassed your halo hp into your health, which will be limited to only 500 by persistence

[fathom ravine]

So it acts more like rolling guard to get out of situations where u take that much dmg 😂 i get ya...

[midnight horizon]

It's just another gate the game introduced

[fathom ravine]

Y

[midnight horizon]

It purely depends on how much hp you have, doesn't care about any source of DR

So if you got a little bit over 1k hp, it's like saying you have at least 2 seconds left to live unless you do something about it. It's a time bomb

[fathom ravine]

Better that than dead i quess 😂 2sec is long time

[midnight horizon]

For sure

[fluid vigil]

What melee weapon should i get to make a build for i need something i can do millions of dmg with

[near vortex]

Harmony or Falcor

[fierce lark]

pretty much any melee can do that ngl

[fathom ravine]

Hate does the job

[midnight horizon]

Glaives, zaw contagion, any slam builds, influence.

So many things you can play around with

[fierce lark]

if you want one that's incredibly simple to put together and put out large individual numbers, harmony or any hammer

or probably any scythe tbh

literally anything that can do reflex slam/heavy spam will do multi-million dmg crits on repeat with some buffs

or you can play kullervo/subsume wrathful advance onto any frame and accomplish the same thing lol

[fluid vigil]

I have nami skyla prime and quassus prime, masteer and redeemer also

[fathom ravine]

If u have melee influence then Xoris is damn good option (just bind throw to firebutton...helps a lot)

[midnight horizon]

Quassus should do well as a slam build

[fluid vigil]

Any scythes u would recommend

[fierce lark]

xoris with influence can definitely carry you through probably the entire game without much issue

[fathom ravine]

Harmony/hate(with burning hate build)

[fierce lark]

harmony, again, very simple to build and use, damage crit status duration reflex, melee afflictions, press heavy attack

[midnight horizon]

Im about to play some gus prim melee chat

[fierce lark]

i personally prefer 12x hybrid melees though, heavy spam gets boring pretty quickly

and 12x is just better imo

[near nymph]

Tektolyst mods have no drain, so no reason not to max, right?

[fathom ravine]

Throw builds are little weird tbh 😂

[fierce lark]

you're telling me lol

although ive never actually used a pure 12x throw build

[midnight horizon]

Yeh

[near nymph]

ty

[midnight horizon]

You missed out on the 12x exploit?

[fathom ravine]

Me nether...glave prime with 4x start stack and basically nukes everything in game in second throw when triggered

[fluid vigil]

Ill get harmony but i dont need the weapon to be simple or easy to use just something thats fun and puts out high dmg

[fierce lark]

i dont actually remember when i actually started playing the game ngl, but ye i never heard of this

[fierce lark]

innodem is extremely funny and nukes rooms with influence

[near vortex]

I wouldn't

Hurts dual wield too much

[midnight horizon]

Before DE patched it, 0s combo duration + negative heavy efficiency would let you have 12x combo that never ends even if you spam heavy attacks

[fierce lark]

lmao oh