builds-discussion

[tawdry sleet]

off the top of my head theres nothing that can generate more value than this

you are already pretty much immortal bc of raksa

you are looking for the setup that deals the most damage most relliably

[eager charm]

Yeah maybe we can let go of aegis and run augmented/expertise

Aegis is just such a nice safety blanket

[tawdry sleet]

i like aegis but not on aegis gale builds

i think augmented is more value here

[eager charm]

I run it on every hildryn build since hits during her shield gate can trigger aegis but

Mystic bond pillage + raksa protect should be fine

[undone dust]

doesnt hastened deflection and mecha overdrive also add on to the shield regen from protect

[tawdry sleet]

only to your companion iirc

[undone dust]

i would assume it would apply to you as well since protect adds its shield regen rate to you

[tawdry sleet]

it does say that

[eager charm]

Shield recharge RATE is the passive regen, doesnt work if you're taking damage or in Hildryn 4
Shield recharge DELAY is the good stat

It's more important to be able to get off a pillage cast since it will easily max you out

[tawdry sleet]

and with this new arcane its incentivizing you to run high strength so pillage is even more relliable than before as a defensive option

[undone dust]

ah i see

[eager charm]

I think with both primed redirect and arcane expertise at 400% str, hildryn will have almost 11k shields, which will make raksa have like 15k shields, and 30% of that gets shoved into hildryn every 3 seconds...

[upper ingot]

Does anyone have a build of Dante? And the book?

[tawdry sleet]

this'll be good for self sustain but you'll still probably get one shot at higher end content no? which is why you then want stack recharge delay and arcane aegis

[eager charm]

Heres a good starting point
https://overframe.gg/build/638612/dante/infernal-symphony-general-use-dante-slash-nuke-dps-buff-non-helminth-and-variants/
Read the guide and customize as u like

[tawdry sleet]

anyways energy conversion doesn't seem good, the arcane gets its value off of your current strength value which makes conditional strength buffs fluctuate your shield pool

[eager charm]

Strength snapshots onto hildryn 4 tho, you can pick up an orb, turn off 4, use madurai/zenurik/tome to buff strength, then press 4 again and it will use the stronger strength value until you turn it off

Hildryn is a very good frame for snapshots because of her channeled 4

[undone dust]

dude the strength snapshotting with the new zen stuff is gonna be silly

[tawdry sleet]

yes the strength is snapshotted into her 4 and 1 but the buff doesn't stay and you lose quite a bit of max shields in the process, so you'd ideally want to keep all your strength buffs up at all times which i don't find quite appealing or you just adjust your calcs to account for that

i think the angle is literally just minor damage and relliability boost when stacking strength

well its not minor but it doesn't change anything drastically

[eager charm]

I imagine arcane expertise will give parasitic armor rhino pretty funny iron skin values

[tawdry sleet]

OH WAIT I FORGOT ABOUT PARASITIC ARMOUR

[unborn light]

anybody got any clips or videos of their nautilus built for dmg? want to see how it compares to mine

[undone dust]

how does elec ward fare with expertise

[tawdry sleet]

shouldn't it make it like an effective 130% total conversion while the buff is active?

also this was previously not feasable

[undone dust]

holy shit

[tawdry sleet]

i forgot a buff

should be able to hit better numbers with primed vigor and specters

[undone dust]

how much dr even is that 😭

[tawdry sleet]

lemme check

won't be accurate from about 1% but it should be about 99.4% dr

[undone dust]

oh lord

[tawdry sleet]

this is with 2.8k health too so its a very potent health tank setup

oh yeah i forgot the arcane isn't even maxed out this can probably hit 60k

lemme go grind it to max rq

[novel bear]

Too bad you can’t use persistence on hildryn

[tawdry sleet]

ikr

with 60k armor 3k health you'd be tankier than prepatch EDA bosses

[undone dust]

health tank hildryn is definitely an idea

[tawdry sleet]

its not practical but its viable

now that i know mystic bond works i'll definetily give it a shot again soon since you'll be able to push it much further

[eager charm]

@tawdry sleet
Here's my daily driver build for EDA/ETA/fissures
Loyal Retriever can be whatever you want

If you're using Expertise over Aegis, then you can switch Primed Redirection to either Energy Conversion or whatever else you want like enemy radar, blah blah

[tawdry sleet]

now that i know mystic bond works in a pinch i'll definetily be using similar builds

[eager charm]

Subsume is this

100 energy per second and 200 health per second to all allies

[tawdry sleet]

so this is not a selfish build?

[eager charm]

No, I usually run power donation lol

Hildryn still gets top kills top damage

[tawdry sleet]

thats true she does tend to do that very easily

my setup differs in a lot of places but honestly i can't see myself switching completely, maybe to be able to use aegis tho

but i have a build for that already

the new arcane seems good on her but it honestly gives mixed value, still worth it to run it in real missions to see whats up tho

[eager charm]

If I had expertise I would probably put it over augmented since the extra power strength quite literally doesnt matter, but getting more shields boosts raksa efficiency

Oh yeah, shards are 4 tau str and 1 tau cast speed

I could switch a tau str for parkour tho....

[tawdry sleet]

i only use str for hitting thresholds

parkour speed feels giga nice

and i don't personally feel the cast speed so i run two parkour

[eager charm]

Cast speed is probably pointless if you use a subsume that doesnt interrupt aegis gale, like airburst

Then hildryn has literally zero cast interrupts aside from 4 lol

[tawdry sleet]

ill run this no subsume for the time being, balefire build will be standard enervate setup identical to what you have

maybe its good idk

[eager charm]

Nice omnis... I wish they were a thing b4 I forma'd hildryn 6 times lol

[tawdry sleet]

ty they are saving me more sanity than you think

and i still need more lmao

[eager charm]

What melee do u use? I use okina incarnon for movespeed

[tawdry sleet]

furax for firerate

[eager charm]

Fair

[tawdry sleet]

with parkour speed okina isn't that necessary but its still very useful

[tight temple]

Can someone throw me a Uriel build?

[polar summit]

what should i build on uriel? i tried strength which is really good for his ultimate to nuke but his other skills seems to lack, and getting that ult takes a while it seems

[eager charm]

All I can tell rn is that 45% efficiency is tolerable because Gulphagor makes enemies explode into orbs

[polar summit]

hm

[eager charm]

Positive range for 4/chain range

Ppl probably need more time on the frame to know for sure

[polar summit]

for sure, im trying to figure out how to charge the ultimate properly

[eager charm]

His 3 makes the demons go berserk so maybe more of that

[near vortex]

Secondary Irradiate Onos

[mighty flare]

its usual: pflow + equilibrium mod/shard, high strength, positive range if ability dps and neutral/neg if weapon platformer

[eager charm]

Pretty funny that Uriel 4 is treated like Roar/Eclipse/Xata/Amp lol

Having roar on brimstone would be insane

[tawdry sleet]

wait you can't subsume roar to buff it???

[eager charm]

No, it auto ramps like thermal sunder

[polar summit]

its big dmg tho

[eager charm]

10x multiplier and it continuously applies heat

[polar summit]

would casting speed be good for him?

probs not now that im thinking

[tawdry sleet]

also hylja

[empty river]

Can someone give me a nice Build for Protea ?

[eager charm]

Yeah, his gameplay looks like he drains demon hp to keep up 3, heal them with 2, then unleash with 4

Not sure what his 1 does for that cycle

[polar summit]

1 is just aoe dmg

[tawdry sleet]

i think the point of arcane expertise on hildryn is literally sightly stronger primed redirection so you can use energy conversion as slightly weaker molt augmented

to make a setup feel good based on my opinion

its literally just that

but only on high strength

[severe bough]

2 full runs of decendia sp equels one full arcane

Imo

[severe bough]

But does he lean more twoards platf ?

Helminth ideas for both builds? Also he probably need shield gate didnt saw anything which makes him unkillable

[eager charm]

Oh, his 1 synergizes with his 3, it sets the demons on fire so that they tick up the 4 meter faster

[eager charm]

His 2 overflows into shields I think?

A frame where the main gameplay is managing his passive is actually rly cool

[mighty flare]

good crowd control and 2 gives shields so little issue on surviving

[severe bough]

Alr alr

[tawdry sleet]

omfg arcane expertise works with precision intensify only if you have your fourth ability hovered in the UI

[mighty flare]

and yeah he has several things for wp

you'd just subsume over 4 cuz it ruins heat dps

[severe bough]

Bayonet weapon imo melee one on influence probably and primary Raw viral heat? Was my first thought

[severe bough]

On the platf build probably?

[mighty flare]

thats what i said? yes?

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-2450304381848837862

[polar summit]

is oraxia or nokko a good room nuke frame?

[eager charm]

I dont think u need heat mods, demon runes buff u with heat I think

[next robin]

Are there any builds for uriel yet?

[severe bough]

You think 145r will be enough for the nuke build ?

[mighty flare]

nokko yeah
oraxia weapon platforms, not ability nuking

[severe bough]

Im probably playing it outside of uriel aswell

If with im swapping

[polar summit]

dang alright

[severe bough]

Mabye i need to take a look on each on rn not everythin at once

[polar summit]

i just like ability nuking frames most the time xD

[mighty flare]

prob works for sobek so yeah raw/viral heat

[eager charm]

I will never not recommend hildryn

[severe bough]

I mean i just think melee will be more used then primary at all cuz primary is only semi

But well the conecpt is nice ig

I need the stance mod for the melee🥀

[eager charm]

Does Vythelas' runes scale with ability strength?

[rich river]

Is xaku still good after the enemy resistance buff

[eager charm]

Xaku was never bad at all, very potent

I personally replace xaku 3 with pillaged for survivability but that's just me

[mighty flare]

postive range for general/caster, neutral/neg for weapon platformer
lasts slots open for preferences or augments if using subsumes with augment (shock/thermal transfer)

• archon vitality might be good for ability dps
  arcanes: (wp) hot shot, (gen) aegis/molt augmented

[eager charm]

We love a good equilibrium abuse frame

[next robin]

Ohh ty, what arcanes are you going to use for ur build?

Oh nvm I see it

[near vortex]

reading comprehension at an all time low

[next robin]

I know lol

[mighty flare]

uriel can use equilibrium shards too btw, if you wanna free up mod slots

[coral crest]

Persistence removes shields without reaching armor req as it was suspected

Hildryn lobotomy is real

[blazing vault]

lavos gonna be insane lol

[tawdry sleet]

@coral crest she doesn't need it

[coral crest]

i know but its funny

[woven edge]

how to get analgam serration

amal*

[coral crest]

thermia event

analgam serration...

[woven edge]

where can i find that

[coral crest]

its not permanent

comes and goes

[woven edge]

will that increase his price in market

[coral crest]

doubt

not by much, he isnt vaulted

[blazing vault]

prob not

[coral crest]

nobody is gonna play him anyway

because of cooldowns

[woven edge]

man nobody buying my lavos smh 💔

[coral crest]

lavos propaganda this, lavos propaganda that. You literally never see him in-game

[severe bough]

And its fkn easy to farm

[coral crest]

yeah, i am thankful for that

[severe bough]

Like 2 times sp decendia

Then done

[coral crest]

i did 1 normal and 1 sp without boosters

was enough to buy 33 already

[severe bough]

Only did sp im doing normal tomorrow

[coral crest]

both of them give a lot

[next robin]

What kind of stance does the vinquibus use

[coral crest]

new stance mods

[severe bough]

It drops somewhere

But dont ask me where dont have any idea

[next robin]

Ahh darnit

[coral crest]

i got one from descendia SP run

[severe bough]

I didnt🥀

Feel like all the other arcane we got sound kinda

[severe bough]

Idk am i the only one feeling the same

Persistance only seems the most usefull for now

[coral crest]

99% of stuff added is for build variety more than anything

Persistence and Bulwark are basically health tank food

[severe bough]

I mean bulwark requirment is only really achived by some frames and its only addtive base dmh even tho its 500% u need to get over 1000 armor points on some frames its def usable but more it wont

[coral crest]

on anyone whos good with triumbral Bulwark is gonna cap out

[coral crest]

i meann

thats the point?

not everything has to be new BiS

persistence sure as hell wont be on a lot of frames

but will absolutely be on a select few

[severe bough]

Yea basc just a niche arcane

[coral crest]

Bulwark is great if you use Lavos' full kit, so im happy

you spend so much time infusing that building merciless or deadhead stacks is ass

[severe bough]

Either way i think i gonna try it out with chroma

[coral crest]

and he overcaps on bulwark with triumbral

basically perfect

[severe bough]

But Tomorrow i need to get persis rank 5 and build lavos nidus inaros and some other frames that come into my mind could be great

Trinity probably

[coral crest]

now this one

will be fun to mess with

[blazing vault]

what kind of shars yall rocking with on uriel?

[mighty flare]

strength / casting speed / parkour

[coral crest]

How's the dmg output of his 3?

[blazing vault]

im thinking 1 parkour 1 speed triple strength but not too sure

[coral crest]

Oh right

Phage and Phantasma

[mighty flare]

So if viral then you stack cold and toxin?

[coral crest]

50/50 chance per hit, yes

Once you hit the viral cap

[eager charm]

I wonder if blast will turn into heat and cold? Since the status explodes at 10 stacks

[coral crest]

It removes itself so I doubt

Maybe through some insane lag you can do it lol

[mighty flare]

Sounds like it’ll only give 1 of each before being consumed or just never works

[coral crest]

Finally, status build that scales with bad ping

Phantasma will be extremely cursed with this

Pretty much constant output of heat and electric

[eager charm]

Idk if it will be better than just merciless tho... but viral/rad weapons turning into viral rad heat cold tox elec is rly cool

[coral crest]

I'd say that's more for priming purposes

You probably aren't getting benefits of elemental mods from this

[eager charm]

Kinda like secondary encumber for primaries? Lol

[coral crest]

Pretty much

The cabal of evil Yareli mains in DEs headquarters have finally blessed us with a fun primary arcane

[eager charm]

Idk why they dont just dissolve the primary/secondary distinction and make all gun arcane usable on any gun

Secondaries have been op for so long which doesnt make any sense

[coral crest]

Finally, Encumber Hek

The status aneurysm build

I still don't get why secondaries get all the cool arcanes

[eager charm]

Encumber Kuva Kohm LOL

[median heron]

Using galv savvy you get back the merciless dmg from the extra statuses

[coral crest]

Outside of the evil Yareli mains in DEs headquarters

[coral crest]

Oh true

Using it as a self primer might not be a bad idea

But the real evil of this arcane would be achieved through Lavos and Cyte

[median heron]

I wonder on some status monster like boar incarnon how it would work

Or actually, archguns can use both the rad explosion secondary arcane and the base element primary one, kinda cooked

[coral crest]

Oh god, archguns

[coral crest]

Arbucep, Debilitate

The final boss of status application

[median heron]

Larkspur

[coral crest]

Larkspur might be stronger

But Arbucep will inflict 10 different status effects

[eager charm]

Larkspur with Debilitate and Irradiate: profit?

Lolol

Archgun Torid

[coral crest]

Archgun Torid, finally

[median heron]

I suppose you can just do corro blast on torid too

Will likely still outperform

Although the bigger "issue" is things surviving long enough for the procs to even matter, its only after 10 procs do you get the bonus procs

[coral crest]

Yeah, 50/50 chance for two is not super high

If you have to reach 10 first

[coral crest]

As I said initially

It'll definitely be reserved for weapons like Phage or Phantasma

Or maybe even Quanta

Weapons that can reliably inflict 5 million procs in a second

[median heron]

Phage would be so good if it werent for the split beam

[coral crest]

Just press aim

https://tenor.com/view/aneurysm-hhhhomeboyyyy-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-reaperleviathan-head-explode-gif-21578105

Ofc they won't let you use 12 viral status beams that easily

Pressing aim to focus them is just annoying enough to balance it out

[orchid vine]

anything i can do to improve my trumna prime? (other than leveling the mods)

[spiral chasm]

Galv apt instead of serration

[slender vine]

What archon shards you recommand for Wisp Cataclysm build?

[orchid vine]

does the stats page show the damage with buffs from things like galv apt? because on paper it's gone down a lot

[fathom sky]

No

[spiral chasm]

yeah it doesnt show

[fathom sky]

The moment conditional buffs start happening you just have to disregard the arsenal stats (and even before then they're pretty misleading)

[orchid vine]

rip

[spiral chasm]

yeah those stats consider only raw dmg with no conditionals so its pretty bad

cuz not even CC and CD is accounted for

[lean rivet]

Does Primary Debilitate work on warframe status effects?

Can’t open it yet and my autistic curiosity is on overdrive

Since sometimes arcanes on a weapon trigger from other sources

[crimson osprey]

ok im stumped.. i finsihed the old peace... where the hell do you access the new game modes?

[lean rivet]

If Debilitate triggered for Warframes Toxin gets Corrosive which gets Shock

[fathom sky]

Press F at the Navigation terminal (not in the Navigation menu)

[crimson osprey]

thank you!

So that new weapon actually feels good

[vital eagle]

curious any fun good builds for Uriel yet?

[coral crest]

Yes, it only counts that the status is capped

[lean rivet]

Nice so technically a frame that gets reliable toxin can also get electricity.

I wonder if that counts as ability electricity procs

[coral crest]

im not sure you understand how it works

[lean rivet]

You said it only counts that it is at 10 right?

[coral crest]

it splits a combined status into two elemental statuses that combine it

[lean rivet]

So do I need to finish it off with a weapon shot still or can warframe ones track

[coral crest]

once the combined status reaches a cap

[lean rivet]

Yes I know that

Archon Continuity gives you Corrosive with every toxin proc.

[coral crest]

im not sure how a frame with reliable toxin can also get electricity

oh, that

[lean rivet]

Yeah that

So 10 Toxin also means 10 Corrosive which means more Toxin and a little Electricity

[coral crest]

i dont think archon cont procs on any weapon that isnt exalted

[lean rivet]

I assume it wouldn’t proc Archon Stretch but there have been weirder bugs or combinations thereof

[coral crest]

i guess more food to already engorged titania

[lean rivet]

Titania is one crazy frame

And if it works for frame abilities I wonder if Saryn could get electricity damage

it would be effectively useless but still funny

[coral crest]

continuity doesnt proc off weapon buffs

[lean rivet]

I don’t get what you’re saying

[coral crest]

unless i misunderstood what you mean

[lean rivet]

I’m asking if I can proc toxin with Saryn to get Corrosive normally for example

Then if that corrosive would then give electricity despite not coming from a weapon

because sometimes primary arcanes work off frame procs. Like when you get bonuses for cold procs.

[coral crest]

i dont think abilities count

[lean rivet]

That’s what i’m wondering

[coral crest]

its a primary arcane

[lean rivet]

Yeah there’s a primary arcane for cold procs too

[coral crest]

maybe some bizarre hound activities at best

[lean rivet]

I forget it’s name at the moment but the cold proc one works off frame abilities too

Since it’s whether or not enemies are just frozen

[coral crest]

well that one just needs a condition to activate

debilitate needs active status procs

[lean rivet]

Still worth a try later I suppose

These ||operator|| modding buffs are ridiculous from reading just the patch notes

Does the health/armor bonus stack off of Vazarin?

400 Armor + 200% from Vazarin for 1200 Armor or 800 armor for example?

[small niche]

Any uriel builds yet

[mighty flare]

Yeah

[mossy juniper]

any wisp steel path builds?

[daring pendant]

Let’s see it theh😂

[coral crest]

What if you try to figure it out

https://tenor.com/view/white-dog-shaking-scared-nervous-dog-scared-and-shaking-gif-22874221

Y-y-y-yourself

[daring pendant]

A am but it’s not doing much damage

Am no very good at the whole modding thing lad ahahahah

[next dune]

so is camisado actually a good pull for uriel

[brittle condor]

jesus arcane careen looks strong

[lavish orbit]

I don't remember with who I talked about primed vigor being useless

well there's uriel now

[next dune]

why is vigor good on uriel

[leaden night]

Want to make my Nekros loot build work but i also dont wanna grind redveil just for one mod and make my other factions lock their loot again...

[mighty flare]

aura: corrosive projection / growing power / summoners wrath
mods: stretch + overextended or augur reach / umbral/archon intensify / archon vitality (caster) / duration mod (wp)
exilus: psf / fire walker
arcanes: (wp) hot shot, (gen) molt augmented, arcane camisado, arcane aegis

i do find caster more fun

[daring pendant]

Is uriel going to be like a top tier warframe a really don’t understand how to use him

[mighty flare]

top tier for what?

hes sorta generalist with lots of utility/crowd control, so good in most scenarios

[next dune]

i thought he was easy to understand. i just wanna know the second arcane i should use. i'm not sure camisado is the play because i spam the crap out of his 3

[mighty flare]

if you dont know, run molt instead

[next dune]

that's the first one i'm using

[coral crest]

Definitely top1 blue protoframe

[hardy knoll]

Thoughts so far everyone?

[coral crest]

And top1 tail haver

[mighty flare]

then aegis/hotshot/parkour

[coral crest]

Top1 by the amount of unique bayonet animations as well

And top1 of skins voiced by Rene Zagger

[hard dove]

Firewalker ong?

[daring pendant]

What’s the most efficient way to use his skill set

[mighty flare]

real answer is icespring so you can fit psf
fun answer is firewalker cuz its cinematic/in theme

[daring pendant]

Have you got any they arcanes spare ranked up I’ve got plat

[mighty flare]

nope

[daring pendant]

Ffs😂

[winter imp]

So, looking at the Vinquibus and its stats… it might be a solid weapon for Valkyr.

I wonder how powerful builds for her can get with it.

[gray quarry]

Well do share, what’s its stats

You have me intrigued

[leaden night]

trying to work without despoil atm

[winter imp]

So, its main damage type is puncture, which got a major boost in a previous update, but I wanna harp on its unique traits.

[valid cargo]

Whats the strongest melee for kullervo?

[gray quarry]

What boost did puncture get and share wgat the trait is

[winter imp]

Just it’s viability as a late game status in general. Don’t remember the specifics, though.

In rifle form, headshots give you more melee damage, I think it was 240% up to 8x, if my half paying attention mind is right.

In melee form, melee kills will up ammo efficiency to 100% up to 16x, I think.

In essence- with good aim, the Vinquibus is pretty much a perpetual damage increase, especially since damage increasing mods jack up its damage really quick.

[mossy juniper]

anyone have a good jad build?

[gray quarry]

Headshots give more melee dmg, melee kills gove ammo eff, hmmm would have to see if it’s additive to valkyrs passive, or is it 240% per stack?

[winter imp]

It should be additive to Valk’s passive.

And it’s 240% more damage per hit.

[gray quarry]

240% total?

[winter imp]

As far as I can tell from what the unique trait says.

[gray quarry]

It won’t out damage her talons, tho ig the 240% it could be better purely due to the unique trait

When I get my hands on it I’ll mess with it

[winter imp]

I messed with it a little, and it’s a solid weapon.

[sterile folio]

this is driving me crazy, does anyone know where or how to use the new antique mods? I dont see any part that we can equip them to.

[sullen ridge]

Anyone have a critical build for the melee version of the vinquibis

[lavish orbit]

Puncture is kinda meh, up to 5 apply, lower the damage output of the enemy and add up to 25% flat crit chance

[coral crest]

I have come to a revelation

Vinquibus is a meta weapon because it only takes one potato for two weapon slots

[near wyvern]

What’s a good weapon to run with Uriel for a weapon/caster build?

[fallow shale]

Ok, so my Valkyr build basically makes/will make her Rip Line Ability less effective/useless with low range, especially if I max out Narrow Minded. Should I replace it with Ophanim Eyes to give her an armor-strip ability?

[mighty flare]

his siganture, sobek, literally anything but avoid heat dps on caster

[runic bane]

chat did i cook on uriel?`

[wild rune]

random question, am I wrong to believe the Vinquibus as an acuity primary?

[fallow shale]

I think it's supposed to be a dual type

[mighty flare]

if ur confident in aim & arent using primary enough to upkeep galv mods
can work yeah

show me stats i wanna see

[wild rune]

I'm still working on it but 40% crit chance on a 3.2x crit damage ratio sounds very acuity-fueled to me, especially since the weapon wants headshots anyway to fuel the melee, which then fuels the primary back

might just do corrosive cold in those slots

or electric, since that really benefits off acuity builds like Daikyu

elementalist, stormbringer, and...

I'll figure out the last slot

[drowsy pelican]

Abilities strength also buffs, exalted weapons, correct?

[wild rune]

yes, though it's inconsistent as sometimes they act as multiplicative buffs and sometimes they act as a +damage mod

[drowsy pelican]

OK, good. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t wasting capacity every time I put precision intensify on

[mighty flare]

which frame?

[drowsy pelican]

Mostly Valkyr and Excalibur

Sometimes sevagoth

[coral crest]

Now to wait for wiki/images of each new focus weapon and their nodes

The amount of resources needed for each is severe to make any sort of hasty purchase

[drowsy pelican]

Since the wiki is official now you’d imagine they would have the wiki updates queued for when the old piece drops

[coral crest]

Its not maintained by DE

It's still a community effort

I think they just host it

[dapper flame]

are these good stats?

[coral crest]

Lol

[drowsy pelican]

I could’ve sworn it was made by DE

[coral crest]

No, it's fandom wiki transferred and now hosted by DE

[drowsy pelican]

How do I get those numbers I NEED IT

[coral crest]

Even ancient comments from fandom wiki got moved there

[drowsy pelican]

crazy

[coral crest]

Getting first weapon shouldn't be too painful but

God

Makes perfect sense

But no way im buying any without knowing

Wish they'd just show the nodes

[mighty flare]

whats passive? anyway scoper --> crit delay and viral would be good considering hes got so much heat

ur using confusing words, it gives up to +1000% melee damage?

[coral crest]

I should get

Wait why are my messages deleted

[mighty flare]

you werent doing that

?

[coral crest]

Okay, nothing

Yeah it wasn't me, doesn't matter

Another person deleted them on PC to mess with me

[coral crest]

Okay no

Sorry, wiki is wrong apparently and I've been using it as the source without looking at it ingame

@mighty flare

[mighty flare]

does headshot bonus scale with ms? like 2ms = 2 stacks per shot

[delicate meadow]

Does anyone have suggestions for how to not suck?
(Context: I was a player years and years ago, recently returned... jsut opened up Steel Path. I can't compete with enemies past level 60 and I don't know how ot get better...)
There is so much different and so many systems to work on. Arcanes? Incarnons? Archon Shards?

I don't even think I have the Hemilinth set up right yet... what do I do?

I love Warframe, but I can't make any progress like this.

[runic bane]

finish the story and get helmin and archon shards set up

Then do some arbitrations for galvinaized mods

[delicate meadow]

Right now, I am still just trying to actually get through 1999, I can't really survive most of the missions still.
Thank you for the suggestion. I will do my best.

[runic bane]

whats the warframe you are runnin and ya build?

Maybe ya need more tankiness

[coral crest]

Hopefully I can finally run vazarin without that big of a damage difference

The amp modding is v nice

[sterile folio]

Are we able to put stance mods on vinquibus? the slots there but mods arent showing

[runic bane]

i mean its a new weapon type

ya need a new mod

[coral crest]

It's a new weapon type, you need a new mod

[sterile folio]

oh true

[coral crest]

It drops in descendia

Got it

[sterile folio]

okay guess Im doing that for a while then

[fallow shale]

Hopefully, it won't have only a single stance mod like another signature melee weapon

I'm looking at you, Dorrclave

[coral crest]

There's a ton of weapon types that have a single stance mod

So I won't be surprised

[fallow shale]

Rly?

huh

[coral crest]

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Stance

Rapiers, two handed nikanas

[mighty flare]

this setup would be preferred, assuming ur pet has reinforced bond and ur buffed by the heat rune
then you could swap out galv aptitude for bane and use deadhead
or use the new ms arcane

[coral crest]

Nunchaku, heavy scythes

Blades and whips

Assault saw

They all have 1 stance

[fallow shale]

oof

[wild rune]

noted

I'm just doing influence slop on the melee because what else can one use that isn't exposure gimmicks or the three weapons that use afflictions

[coral crest]

Vortex

[mighty flare]

actually this would be preferred instead

how much max energy does uriel get

[wild rune]

150 base at rank 30

[mighty flare]

stinks, if not using bane, use chamber and deadhead or whatever

[jovial oracle]

I need help with a build for styanax please and thank you and if it’s nourish I don’t have Grendel

[wild rune]

while I have you on the line, I'm gonna be putting stretch in one slot, would you say overextended or augur reach in the other slot?
exilus will be psf

[crimson osprey]

Hey so atlas, does attack speed work on landlside prime? do amber shards(casting speed) work on his number 1? landslide?

[mighty flare]

def stretch + overextended
you could even drop trans fort for augur reach

[crimson osprey]

overframe is woefully outdated on my rocky boy

[mighty flare]

wouldnt reccomend summoners wrath tho, camisado is alright for movement

[coral crest]

Attack speed doesn't work. Casting speed does

[crimson osprey]

Are there any basic mods we all know and use on melee that do not work on landslide(the moddable weapons)

[crimson osprey]

And thank you

[coral crest]

No finishers, no blocking, no heavy attacks, no attack speed(casting speed instead), no Rauta melee combo, no Furax Body Count duration, no melee crescendo

Standard for all pseudo exalted(except Ash, since he can do finishers)

[crimson osprey]

okay, i figured most of those, lol thank you

im thinking of making a summoner build next

[pure pasture]

for sevagoths nuke 2 augment nuke build should I infuse Roar or Nourish?

[delicate meadow]

Excal Umbra, and mostly a Soma Prime witrh Multishot and crit.

[mighty flare]

roar

[pure pasture]

ok thanks

[crimson osprey]

okay so atlas, how do you even get above 1400 rubble? im lucky if i get maybe 200 on steel path nodes punching for days

what am i doing wrong?

[twin sail]

@hearty scarab I have a solution to my enemy overguard problem.
That solution involves a lot of ropalolyst and a lot of hexanon.

[hearty scarab]

wuh?

what og problem/

[twin sail]

breach surge over dessication

inaros gas spin

[hearty scarab]

ah

[twin sail]

I struggle with overguarded enemies cause I just spin a bunch

[hearty scarab]

mecha set also works against og btw

as does breach surge

[twin sail]

I mean yea, but I like my kubrow how I have it rn

practically speaking this is it

usually I use it for loot farming

otherwise I use other companions, but for rn this has been a vibe

[full girder]

I wish I was better at builds but this yt channel kyaii who has made a really good gauss weapons platform build wrathful advance over his 2 melee influence okina prime incarnon build was clearing rooms with ease and a Uriel build that nukes rooms with his 4

I wanna go all the way to lvl cap but I not got the time nor patience for that long of a survival run and void cascade ain’t my strong suit maybe in a squad but not solo

But I might start maining Uriel

[spare geyser]

Should I invest in Arcane Expertise for Protea?

[plucky idol]

so i was tryna work on the vinquibus and i dont have access to some higher end mods and i think i may have wasted umbra forma not realizing the melee and primary share polarities

[livid pumice]

what do i build on oraxia?

[mighty flare]

what is the interaction you intend for

[mighty flare]

fill the rest with whatever you'd like
oraxia can pull off ehp tanking with new persistence, just needs flat armor source

[livid pumice]

tyyy

[mighty flare]

what do you have rn

and yeah umbra polarity was a mistake but can work

[mighty flare]

double umbra was huge mistake yeah

[plucky idol]

I'm so annoyed lol

[mighty flare]

primary build looks like this, just reforma and dont build for doughty it sucks lol

[plucky idol]

Thanks

[mossy juniper]

any jade builds?

[patent igloo]

THIS IS ACHIEVABLE WITH NO RIVEN????

[mighty flare]

yes?

doughty sucks tho, dont be fooled by arsenal stats

[patent igloo]

oh i didn't see melee doughty

oops

[coral crest]

Oh goodness, artifact mods seem great

Multishot, cc/cd, everything is here in good amounts

[elfin gate]

what should i add for the last 2 mod slots?

[fierce lark]

does "abilities deal % damage to enemies affected by x status" on archon shards apply to exalted weapons? and if so is it a final % added after everything else? was thinking of running green % dmg to corrosive shards on temple

[plucky idol]

Even without doughty you can still get the red crits xD

[patent igloo]

more duration

[elfin gate]

what mods tho?

[patent igloo]

bruh

duration mods

[elfin gate]

ok

[fierce lark]

constitution, auger message

[elfin gate]

thx

[fierce lark]

im not sure if i can get in trouble for mentioning this but if you run fast deflection his shield recharge delay goes into the negative, essentially giving him infinite shield gate

[elfin gate]

isnt that usually for builds that subsumed his 2?

[fierce lark]

don't think his 2 has anything to do with it, it just provides DR and energy when you get hit by certain damage types, and makes his 1 apply slash

[elfin gate]

ohh

i see

[fierce lark]

part of his passive is faster shield recharge at high battery, and fast deflection seems to be additive with it to the point of having a recharge delay of below 0

apparently it requires arcane aegis to work, once aegis triggers a single time the effect stays forever, for...reasons

[coral crest]

Reason is that there's a cap to recharge delay. Aegis works by removing the cap and putting delay to 0, and it doesn't revert the delay cap for some reason

It works with two recharge mods and grimoire fass canticle as well

[proud flare]

Ayyo. I require assistance from someone that currently has the EFV5-Jupiter.

I'm thinking of getting the weapon soon, but I was wondering if my hairbrained idea would possibly work.. IIRC there's a magnetic mod for secondaries, so I assume there's one for primaries that I just haven't gotten yet..

With that in mind, is it possible to build it to have Corrosive + Magnetic + Heat??

[fierce lark]

there's a magnetic mod for shotguns, i dont think there's one for rifles?

oh yes there is

[proud flare]

I just looked right now too.. I'm very happy to see it tbh. See, I'm curious if it'd be possible to make a single primary for armor & shield shredding for SP.. since I finally decided to unlock it and oml I'm underbuilt.

[wary mesa]

Any builds for Sevagoht?

[fierce lark]

if you have nourish + a companion with reinforced bond active for fire rate, you could run this for only 2 forma

it does suffer from no punch through though, and the jupiter isn't a great gun to begin with

[patent igloo]

@queen sandal there is no way\

[mighty flare]

it has innate corro no point in modding for it twice

you'd just run heat

[fierce lark]

if you're actually trying to strip with corro, the tiny amount it has innate is probably not gonna help

[mighty flare]

?

[proud flare]

doesn't the status not care about dmg and just stacks?

[fierce lark]

unless im missing something, im looking at the initial corrosive weighting and it's like 11%

[proud flare]

Or am I misremembering?

[fierce lark]

statuses are applied based on weighting, if your weapon is 11% corrosive damage, then every shot has 11% of whatever your status chance is to apply corrosive, per projectile

[proud flare]

Aye. but the armor strip doesn't take into account the damage. just the stacks of status.. I'm just doing some thinking to sort of build to handle grineer and corpus with one weapon. I still gotta set up a half decent primer secondary since I usually run CO..

[fierce lark]

the armor strip doesn't care about the damage, but the amount of stacks you get does

the more the % of your damage is corrosive, the higher chance you have to apply corrosive status per shot

[proud flare]

I mean yeah but I could just slap something like hammer shot to boost status.. or get a riven for it?

[fierce lark]

truth be told, if you're that hung up over having armor strip on your gun, just play saryn or lavos or cyte, they can buff corrosive onto your gun with guaranteed status

(obviously dont do that if you WANT to play a diff frame, but it's an option)

[proud flare]

I'm unfortunately a returning player who does not have those. I got.. Vauban Prime. Nekros Prime. Umbra, Gara, and uh.. Wisp Prime? IIRC?

[fierce lark]

nekros can armor strip with 2 iirc

[proud flare]

Honestly not a big fan of Nekros' Kit. It's why my mains tend to be Gara or Vaub. But I'm kind of loving Gara's 4.

[fierce lark]

also do some missions and see if you even need the armor strip

with all the mods and arcanes and warframe buffs in the game things kinda just fall over after a certain point

[proud flare]

Mhmm.. Mhmm.. last time I played was during POE releease? iirc? or was it Fortuna? So I'm a fairly broke oldie.

[fierce lark]

yeah that's way way way back before armor was reworked

[proud flare]

Aye. I got around to getting SP unlocked earlier this month and it's uh.. a different beast from what I'd thought it'd be?

[fierce lark]

there's no insanely high armor numbers anymore, armor on enemies caps to i think 2700 for a 90% reduction, and heat status already cuts that in half

viral is way more important than armor strip

[proud flare]

At least that's not been gutted, so most of my viral kit will still work.

[fierce lark]

im p sure viral was reworked at some point, not 100% though

either way at max stacks it's +325% damage (to health)

so it's imperative you have some way to apply viral in any setup, whether it's through a companion or warframe buff or modded on your gun

except against corpus, usually pure toxin is the play there

[proud flare]

Fair. RN my Go-to is a Magnetic Twin Grak setup for shield strip, and a Viral + Rad setup on (currently) Nataruk after I'd gotten that. Great for clearing Overshields, but kind of wet paper otherwise.

[fierce lark]

there are better weapons, but viral+elec nataruk can probably clear sp chart without much issue

if you haven't looked into it yet, some if the incarnon weapons are pretty great

[proud flare]

Been slowly.. slowly.. grinding to get the uh.. Burston Incarnon? iirc the base gun felt nice.

[fierce lark]

though you do have to do steel path circuit to get the ones that aren't the base 5

[proud flare]

Would be easier if Syndicates worked like they used to.. no pledging, just wearing their sigil. ;^;

[fierce lark]

the burston incarnon is one of the more notable ones to be sure

[chrome iris]

heya, anyone got a decent mod setup for Uriel and his weapon the Vinquibus?

[fierce lark]

circuit has debatably the 2 best incarnons in the game for the primary/secondary slot rn in the torid & dual toxocyst, and ive heard good things about the dual ichor as well

[short garden]

dtox incarnon is the best secondary in the game imo

just loses to laetum for enemies with attenuation

[fierce lark]

yeah

idk if the attenuation nerf affected that at all, haven't used dtox yet myself

[short garden]

laetum completely melts the descendia final boss

dtox takes a looooooong time to do that

[mighty flare]

yeah with innate corrosive and external nourish, you'd just slot heat and flex in magnetic capacity for eximus/thrax, modding for corro is wasting slots

[fierce lark]

what about corro + dmg vs grineer

is that just doing less damage than adding magnetic+bane/elementalist?

[mighty flare]

yeah testing was against grineer 💀

[fierce lark]

i would assume a "normal" gun setup is running corroheat with primed shred but ig not

[next robin]

Uriel doesnt really need ability efficiency because of his 2nd summon right?

[mighty flare]

yes you can dump it

[fierce lark]

does + ability damage work on exalteds? and is it calculated separate from everything else? im running blast tox lizzie and i wanna throw green +dmg to corrosive shards

[severe bough]

Uriel

• Caster/general
  Focus on pos range much str a bit duration

• Platformer
  Focus on high str neutral/neg range, and duration
  Subsune his 4 it messes with heat calcs
  Use equilibrium shards or mod on both ( i useally use shards if the frame got any kind of ability to drop orbs )

• Vinquibus
  For primary fire use RAW viral heat or coro heat if external viral use primary crux

And melee just the standard influence crab

Anyone already got some ideas on what new arcane and mods are great for operator rework?

There were a few that Sounded kinda interesting eg one that strip 30% overguard by void sling through the enemy

[chrome iris]

Thank you

[severe bough]

Ah and use crux

[coral crest]

He seems fun but doomed to not be very popular

No instant gratification, requires to adapt to conditions outside your control

Found dead in a ditch

[mighty flare]

?

[coral crest]

His 4 needing to be charged and his passive essentially leading his decisions will definitely put a lot of people off

Just an observation, not saying he's bad or anything

An average 9-5 Joe will snap your spine for even suggesting to play something that tells you what to do in real time

[fierce lark]

really? i would expect that player to love something that gives them direction

instead of having to think for themselves

[coral crest]

I know two extremely casual players who fall under this and they said that this is garbage, at the very least

"doesn't let me play the way I want"

Hes extremely easy to get, but I doubt many will stay for him

[carmine dew]

tell them to go back to revenant

[coral crest]

Nothing wrong with wanting that tbh

[carmine dew]

well, between template, nokko, now uriel, these kinds of specific playstyle gimmicky characters is the only direction left

so many warframes in the game

all the bases are covered

[coral crest]

Yeah, and I'm glad for that

I'd rather have generalists with gimmicks than one trick ponies that fold under the slightest change in environment

[mighty flare]

oh, i just had no idea who you were talking about

[coral crest]

Dialogue was about Uriel, wanted to throw my useless opinion in

[gray quarry]

Not valkyr?

[coral crest]

Valkyr prime is ass to get

She's evergreen and still costs 100p on the market

[gray quarry]

Sounds like someone hadn’t ran enough railjack (I didn’t run it much, I think I had most of her set back a while ago, just bought the last part)

[coral crest]

I am talking about general players

Most players don't even know resource forge is a thing that exists

[gray quarry]

Ah, yeah

[mighty flare]

Zid-An Osbok, Hok-Kaal, Ubri-Kaneph are musts for dmg

• after these depend on class for utility/dps

[coral crest]

Gogo-gaga

[gray quarry]

Rj needs a tutorial for the railjack itself

I might go with naramon, should go get that maxed out, unfortunately the only tree I have maxed rn is madurai

[coral crest]

I am thinking of Vazarin or Zenurik

I mainly play Lavos, he really does not care

[gray quarry]

I mainly play valkyr

[coral crest]

Vazarin could at least help others

(and help me leech affinity better)

[gray quarry]

She probably also doesn’t care, naramon for the melee stuff it does maybe

[coral crest]

Though has anyone here tried the vazarin tauron strike

It says it's a whirlpool, does it like group enemies or something

Does it even do dmg?

I won't be able to play for a bit, can't launch rebellion to check

[gray quarry]

I don’t have the resources to get 1 yet, close on one of them tho

[coral crest]

You can try all of them in Perita for free as long as you have the tree unlocked

I asked here but will probably just try it out once I get home

[shrewd hedge]

Im trying to decide how to build uriel, here is what I have at the moment (he is unranked)

[ornate rain]

I’ve gone and built my ember prime, but the ability damage just feels really lackluster

[carmine dew]

that's because it is unfortunately

ember aint doing so hot.....

[lavish orbit]

What's your build ? Roar and Truculence give a nice buff of damage

[ornate rain]

Intensify, Stretch, Streamline; exothermic, armored agility, continuity, flow, steel charge, and rush

I don’t have any helminth overwrites, I was trying to go for a heavy caster frame

[carmine dew]

main thing youre missing is archon vitality for the double heat damage

ultimately though ember's ability damage is just kind of bad, there's no two ways around it

she doesnt have any scaling so youre left with just her base damage + mods and strength

[ornate rain]

No way in hell am I playing enough metal grineer solid to get archon mods

[carmine dew]

💀

well, you can buy them from the market

[ornate rain]

I didn’t realize they were tradable, thanks

[severe bough]

Zid an obosk was the one which strips overguard iirc other ones idk

But sounds nice need to get them all

Anyways

[worthy python]

If you max out the initial charge mods and arcane and run as many lenses as you can for + charge gain, how frequently can you expect to have your focus ult available?

[sullen fern]

Where can I find a good pre-iron path garuda build? I want to work on her before I start the new quest

[mighty flare]

Zid-An Osbok --> strips og and +3x cd multiplier
Hok-Kaal --> x3 dmg multiplier
Ubri-Kaneph --> +dmg%

these are like most basic/universal dmg boosts you can get, others are more situational

[worthy python]

So you can put focus lenses in your Warframe, all three weapons, your archwing, both arch weapons, necramech, K drive, and amp.

Do those all grant + charge speed passively, or only when you gain affinity with the respective piece of gear active?

[mighty flare]

Other good stuff:

• Omn-Evi --> crit chance
• Hayan-Dabor --> multishot
• Talsek-An --> psf
• Vikla-Safor --> fire rate & ammo efficiency

[coral crest]

1mil credit tax per mod

[lavish orbit]

Well, exothermic only gives 15% chance to get an energy orb, I feel it's a waste of space when you can put equilibrium or healing flame for survivability, healing flame will get you overguard that can apply viral with truculence, roar double dip your heat damages, growing power get you 25% more str, theres a lot that can be done

[severe bough]

Finally persistance lavos

[odd quiver]

Question . Anyone got a good build for Gauss , Nidus and Sevagoth ? I'm slowly finishing the nodes on the system to enter steel path and I need something that can carry me

[carmine dew]

fast deflection and arcane aegis for gauss

[severe bough]

Gauss survivalbility comes from aegis + dast deflection nidus can easily health tank and sev shield gate

[carmine dew]

gauss works with legit pretty much anything you want on him, he's very versatile

[severe bough]

The immortal god

[carmine dew]

sevagoth is a bit of a late game guy though, he needs investment and most importantly enemy density to really get much done

so you can shelve him for later

would not recommend playing him in star chart really

[worthy python]

Here's the budget version of what I've been using, haven't had time to update the endgame version in a while: https://overframe.gg/build/18806/gauss/immortal-melee-god-gauss-v2-budget-link-to-endgame-v3/

[odd quiver]

Thanks a lot fellas

[severe bough]

Im kinda confused persistance doesnt do anything im

[lavish orbit]

Persistance being bugged ? That's new... Oh well

[worthy python]

If you're taking more than 500 damage per second you probably have bigger issues.

[eager karma]

Anyone got an endgame Shedu Build? would be very nice ^^ (I think shedu is to underrated and i always wanted it as my Primary weapon for everything )

[worthy python]

It calculates based on the total damage after armor and damage reduction according to Pablo, even if it does work it feels like a bit of a build trap

[severe bough]

So the 500 standing up there my assumption was it goes down to 0 then we gate a health gate of 1 sec and can heal up in that time and cycle repeats

[worthy python]

I think it means you can't take more than 500 health damage per second?

[lavish orbit]

Seems fun, but you need to invest into armor to make worth

But eh, one arcane, one mod or 3 tau blue

[worthy python]

I remember when the sentiment damage resistance reset on the Shedu was relevant, back before sentients were status immune and you actually had to build to counter them.

[worthy python]

Doesn't armor make it less valuable? It sets a hard cap on your total incoming damage, if you're taking less damage then it'll just apply less often?

I figured you'd want to build health and regen with it

[lavish orbit]

You need 700 armors to get the effect

[worthy python]

Oh. Right

[severe bough]

Yes but idk it seems kinda bugged on lavos or mabye it isnt that strong as me and some others thought of. Also when active in buff list is says health cannot be reduced by more than the fixed amount (500) my thought was smth after that gonna happen imo

[mighty flare]

yes, you can take CAP of 500 damage PER second

• 500 health = 1sec gate
• minimum 700 armor for this effect to trigger

To take advantage of this, you need sizeable health, +700 armor, and a source of healing

basically

you need to be able to heal 500hp/s

[shrewd hedge]

add that with the arcane that increases primary damage per point over 1000 armor

[worthy python]

Oh. Yeah, I forgot. You can get that with health Conversion and synth deconstruct pretty cheaply though.

[mighty flare]

its not that great, forces you to build more armor than is necessary, and prob loses to other more reasonable arcanes

[severe bough]

The weird thing is u dont get the 1 sec gate after the 500 dmg either i understood it wrong or smth is bugged

[mighty flare]

you take dmg --> hit cap --> no longer take dmg WITHIN that second

theres no after effect

[shrewd hedge]

I mean sure but if im not using shields and building for armor in place of that to further reduce the damage I am taking that isnt really a issue

[severe bough]

The Problem i hit cap and doesnt give me the 1 sec gate thats what the problem rn was

[mighty flare]

if you dont hit cap, you aren't taking enough dmg for the arcane to matter

or ur just vastly misunderstanding how it works

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-cat-spoon-spoon-cat-cat-apple-apple-cat-gif-254879498273748

[shrewd hedge]

im using all arnor tauforge shards anywau on uriel might as well use the armor arcanes

[shrewd hedge]

that spoon has been attacked by that cat XD look at it

[mighty flare]

opportunity costs, 700 armor is a lot more reasonable than 1500
the arcane makes building extra dr/armor a waste resources, having more health is more useful for the arcane

[fallow sandal]

Is it me or has ocucor been nerfed?

[severe bough]

For eg my lavos got triumbra enought to reach armor cap and almost 2000 health. As i understood it U TAKE 500 dmg then it should resolve in a 1 sec gate. But thats just not happening at all imo

Probably missunderstood it

[worthy python]

I don't think it gives you a second gate after the cap, I think the space is calculated continuously so you can't take more than 500 damage across the last second?

[mighty flare]

you will take cap of 500 dmg per second, thats it
if you take 500dmg within the first 0.5s, and another within the last 0.5s, you only take 500 dmg

[worthy python]

So its a rate limiter

[shrewd hedge]

again yes but on certin frames its good, I dont have to put much into uriel as im using arcon mods so im able to make use of that extra space and benefit from the armor bonus,

[worthy python]

If it gave you the gate after then you'd be getting the maximum for 1 second + however long it took you to take 500 damage

[severe bough]

Got it but tbf isnt that great on lavos

If im honest

[mighty flare]

shards are one of the most "things" you can put on frames

[mighty flare]

you want constant regen like hunter recovery/grace/etc

or life steal

[severe bough]

Grace is already there but let me quickly test it out again

[mighty flare]

nikana zaws are making comeback because of daikyus lifesteal augments

[carmine dew]

thats actually huge wtf

[timid merlin]

What arcane would be best to put on my Mesa's Regulators?

[carmine dew]

flare or fortifier

[lavish orbit]

Fortifier or encumber more

[quiet laurel]

encumber on mesa, huge tech

[lavish orbit]

You can get Cascadia flare on your archgun

[quiet laurel]

the dmg of flare on archgun isnt affecting mesas regulators

[lavish orbit]

Sadge

Fortifier for survivability is it

[astral tinsel]

what about irradiate

[velvet pulsar]

Too much bothering considering furis augment exists

[lavish orbit]

I need to try this

[velvet pulsar]

Glorified blast status?

[severe bough]

Platf lavos when using that should i stay neutral range cuz of bite

[velvet pulsar]

It has similar requirements as blast, it does similar thing as blast

[astral tinsel]

with more AoE and triggers on every hit once you get to 10 stacks

if I'm reading it right

[velvet pulsar]

Also lavos got a huge W this update

[carmine dew]

yeah "once you get to 10 stacks"

of rad

like are you seriously gonna build rad on your regulators to use it 🥀

[astral tinsel]

no different from getting to 10 stacks of blast

[worthy python]

I wonder if the extra hits from Secondary Irradiate build tome buffs on the grimoire faster.

[carmine dew]

its also the opportunity cost of using your usual arcane

[velvet pulsar]

U don't need to apply radiation from the gun though, unlike blast

[carmine dew]

not a lot of things that can apply 10 stacks of rad in a hurry like that

[velvet pulsar]

If Manifold Bond is spreading it instead

Yeah ur 2 main options are either hound or diriga with tazicor

[carmine dew]

you can certainly give it a go with tazicor or something but its very unlikely to be better than usual viral priming from pets

[astral tinsel]

rad-viral helstrum?

[velvet pulsar]

Also that primary arcane for combined elements is gonna make some fun synergy with Coda Hema & Bubonico

[severe bough]

Triumbra lavos

[velvet pulsar]

That also means Tenet Glaxion no more needs raw cold to run its augment

[severe bough]

Done

Works pretty good now just was a bit different from what i used to play

[astral tinsel]

oh snap you're right

[velvet pulsar]

[severe bough]

Your talking about debilate ?

[velvet pulsar]

I will memorize the names AFTER I farm them

[severe bough]

Hows that gonna work then?

[velvet pulsar]

Viral magnetic or blast magnetic might be new optimal choice

Magnetic being the progenitor

[astral tinsel]

viral

blast detonates at 10

[quiet laurel]

is it just me or does the new 500 dmg arcane have like barely any practical use aside from inaros

[velvet pulsar]

That way u have high chance of cold procs for the augment

[velvet pulsar]

Just u

[quiet laurel]

well but like

[velvet pulsar]

I've already thought of several applications

[quiet laurel]

to the point where enemies deal more than 500dmg on a health tanking build you cant have good DR to mitigate that dmg so its always going to be 500 dmg

and anything under 500 dmg justifies normal tanking without the arcane

[velvet pulsar]

There's an indirect way to get DR

[quiet laurel]

and the health pools for most frames just seem too low for 500dmg/s

[velvet pulsar]

TBH, I think there's atleast 2 ways

[severe bough]

U need selfheal

And mod for health armor

[quiet laurel]

I mean obviously

[severe bough]

The problem its only there for certain frames that are meant to be 'tanky'

[quiet laurel]

but just seems more stressful than shield gating atp

[velvet pulsar]

And beware of heat & corrosive statuses

[severe bough]

Kinda

On inaros and nidus it works easily

[velvet pulsar]

On wisp too

[severe bough]

Lavos i kinda wonky if u only played shield gate

[severe bough]

I mean wisp

Press 2

And jump and aim glide

[velvet pulsar]

Lavos unfortunately, I think I'm gonna use Well of Life on his 2

[severe bough]

1 should be enough to health with pos range

But im mean more heal is good

[velvet pulsar]

Regarding wisp I've planned something ridiculously easy

[quiet laurel]

if you can mitigate the 500dmg via energy tanking its fine ish ig

[velvet pulsar]

[velvet pulsar]

That's 1 of atleast 2 ways to get indirect DR despite that arcane

Unfortunately lavos can't use that

2nd way, is I wonder if Damage Redirection works despite the arcane

That way even mesa's 3 can utilize it

Gotta test if Damage Redirection applies before or after the arcane

[severe bough]

What does energy tanking even do or how is it done?

I assume through QT and then any kind of energy generation via smth else?

[astral tinsel]

isn't shatter shield just regular DR?

[quiet laurel]

ye QT or hunter adrenaline and good energy economy

[velvet pulsar]

It reflects projectiles
It's not DR against AoE & melee attacks

[velvet pulsar]

Or heal rate

[severe bough]

But how you exactly tank with that ?

[quiet laurel]

you know what those mods do?

should be self explanatory

[velvet pulsar]

Worst case scenario:
500 dmg/s
QT + Gladiator Finesse ≤ 167 energy/s

[astral tinsel]

that's way too much energy/s

[velvet pulsar]

Regular heal rate required: 197 health/s

[severe bough]

Qt drains energy basically to save you for lethal damage but u then need any kind of energy Economy as Adrenalin and prob more

Just seems kinda much to do

[velvet pulsar]

So that hunter adrenaline + rage can give 85% of dmg taken as energy

[quiet laurel]

ye as I said previously I doubt that the arcane will change much in the efficient modding scene

the arcane just seems specific to inaros so he can lvl cap

[velvet pulsar]

Oh it's gonna be mod eater

[severe bough]

Very very niche

[astral tinsel]

might be nice on Nidus too?

[severe bough]

It is

[astral tinsel]

and uhh, Lavos maybe

[velvet pulsar]

But hey wisp already has shined even modless

[severe bough]

Kinda yes

[velvet pulsar]

A bit difficult

(constant heal part)

[mighty flare]

not really?

its just using diff zaw to one-shot

you could also use whatever melee to heavy spam on lifestrike

[astral tinsel]

2026 the year of life strike

[velvet pulsar]

Year of energy tanking's return

[worthy python]

I agree. If it worked before DR it would've been better

[astral tinsel]

does it synergize with influence?

[astral tinsel]

it would've been busted to hell

[velvet pulsar]

I'm thinking special DR still affects it

Like dmg redirection or projectile reflection

Say, that moa mod Stasis Field or Trinity's link.

Ok maybe not projectile modifiers

[velvet pulsar]

Anyways, then if u add Nourish to this combo, u reduce this requirement even more

Or if u have well of life at 200% STR

[worthy python]

Yeah, but right now it feels like a big nothingburger

[velvet pulsar]

Standing still and being immortal at the cost of more than half of ur mod slots is surely a big fat burger

A stinky one, but definitely a fat one.

[rocky dirge]

camisado working on uriel?

[round galleon]

trying to get a build to beat LM2 test, with this I just about fall shy of the timer with having like 7-10 enemies left. does anyone have either a better secondary build option or any pointers to improve this? :0

[lean rivet]

Actually it seems hard but if you factor in Nourish or Frame stacking for where it would be applicable 160 regen isn’t impossible

For example, Bright Bonnet gives a pretty sizable chunk

You don’t necessarily have to be taking damage 100% of the time either. This is a game where we move around. And it can make a solid cushion for any response delays in recasts on a frame like Zepyhr for example.

[coral crest]

I wonder how far in cascade Uriel's 4 holds

[coral crest]

It does yeah

[severe bough]

Also funny meme thing is energy tanking with persistance i need to def take a look at that

Aswell

[lean rivet]

Yeah it’s funny to try which is why it interests me

but if it works you’re also immortal

the thing is you gotta get 160 regen or more which means you need exceptionally high Nourish or Bright Bonnet on a frame like Gyre

[severe bough]

Yes so if i understood right cuz persistance cuts damage only to 500 per sec means u not losing energy that fast like u would usally do with energy tanking

[lean rivet]

With Gyre you can get 10-20s I would say, and if you somehow got nourish to 5x that’s 50/s - 100/s

[drowsy herald]

My lavos is finally tanky enough and iam glad they added that arcane

[severe bough]

But doing that requires so much slots its only be there for meme testing out whatever

[lean rivet]

Using just quick thinking is 50% roughly of reduction

Making it 250/s

[quiet laurel]

since he can do millions he will likely be able to trash clear at cap

[lean rivet]

If we factor in the new strength bonuses from Zenurik you could probably get Gyre’s energy regen to 20-30 somehow?

I know I get like 10 with 500 strength or more I think

if you get 15 and double with Nidus then apply Nourish

[severe bough]

Uriel cap run when

[potent bramble]

gimme vinquibus builds

[lean rivet]

I’d say 250/s regen isn’t improbable

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-gif-8510554628372069925

[quiet laurel]

gotta farm him first fr
(had to spend plat on hair styles and shi so I wont insta buy the frame this update)

[severe bough]

Raw viral heat coro if external viral

Melee is influence crab

[lean rivet]

Vinquibus is a strange weapon

[severe bough]

True

[severe bough]

It kinda ks

[lean rivet]

3 Slot Weapon when

[severe bough]

It did deleted my configs twice in a row

I didnt know why

[coral crest]

Saw multiple already on yt

[lean rivet]

I want a weapon made of spirit energy that pixelates and turns into primary secondary or melee

[coral crest]

It's designed entirely around Uriel

[severe bough]

I mabye do one

When i got everything else

[coral crest]

Single shot delete button for his damage link, melee so you wouldn't put Praedos on him

[potent bramble]

for now i got this

[severe bough]

U can swap out voltaic strike and the go preach ww and beserker fury

Nvm

Ww already in there

[potent bramble]

XD

[severe bough]

Co

[rocky dirge]

its are u sure it does?

[coral crest]

I mean if it doesn't you can see it

The arcane has stacks shown

[autumn citrus]

was looking at older weapons, and i dont know what to change, i know hunter munitions has kinda fallen off since the armour changes

[rocky dirge]

i donno , mine didnt show any stats, it was 0% no numbers or so.

[coral crest]

Some previewers ran it so I assumed

Blehhhh

Awful, just awful

[neon apex]

Hey do we know if summoner's wrath and arcane camisado work on uriel?

[potent bramble]

guys is semi rifle cannonade good on vinquibus?

[versed harbor]

should probably just use generic raw dmg shotgun build like this but tigris was power crept years ago

https://overframe.gg/build/210957/kuva-hek/kuva-hek-alt-fire-cold-corrosive-raw-damage-one-shot/

u could swap primed tac pump for the tigris augment (combat reload) but probably not worth it

[little wing]

so for anyone curious i did some testing on what slots with lenses affects ||tauron strike charge rate||, though seem to be some display bugs as i have a random 29.8% base bonus to charge speed. Anyone able to test or tested that have gotten simmilar results?
Slots Affecting Tauron strike Charge Rate:
Warframe
Primary
Secondary
Mellee
Archgun(Mission use, NOT archwing use)
(side not am i the only one supprised that amp lenses dont affect the charge?)

[queen sandal]

huh OH HIS NAME IS SOMBRA WTH

[queen sandal]

#1429852785251455016

[severe bough]

Test it but they both should work

[velvet pulsar]

Anyone tried Arcane Expertise on Hildryn?

[vital ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-baby-ai-baby-laughing-ai-baby-baby-gif-17394836155970552795

guys is anyone here running with innodem aerial attack with zero grav wisp? can i have a build for the innodem please

[astral tinsel]

I just run generic influence on my innodem

[severe bough]

Arcane concentration sounds kinda good for some frames tbh

[severe bough]

Is it flex slot for aegis ?
I wonder if smth on the build changes when using it

[hushed meadow]

whats the best weapon i can use on weapon platform gauss? im mr10 and havent unlocked sp yet

maybe stahlta?

[terse hedge]

How can i improve that?

[lost adder]

Brothers. I require assistance. What is the general idea when modding Voruna? I currently mod her with archon mods.

[astral tinsel]

lvl up your gosh darn mods

especially serration at a low rank is a huge dps loss

[terse hedge]

thx, shall i do forma for all slots ?

use*

[novel agate]

Why my nova 1 doesn’t do more then 30k dmg?

I was thinking maybe using archon (recently unlocked) and nourish.

[terse hedge]

how do you think guyz what build is better for Uriel rn?

[frank pier]

any sentiments on the alternox prime?

i really want it to be good, but they gave it a disposition of 1 for some reason

[fading bluff]

Bruh, why does the Alternox have the lowest possible Riven Dispo?

[frank pier]

its not even 1, its .5

[fading bluff]

is my riven even worth using with such low stats?

[frank pier]

man im sitting on two rivens

i can't use either cause the stats get tanked so much

[hushed meadow]

does anyone happen to have a volt build that fits this weapon

[potent bramble]

solid?

[versed harbor]

every new weapon gets this even if its garbage like alternox :[

[frank pier]

giving it a dispo of 1 knowing damn well they made no real improvements to it is foul

[severe bough]

Swap out rime rounds for either 90% heat and if u use it with uriel use whatever

[potent bramble]

u think?

[versed harbor]

ye but thats not cuz they think its a good weapon its just cuz its new, theres no exceptions

[potent bramble]

ts gives gas

[severe bough]

U already got pcr and and i would probably swap out cannode aswell so u can mod fire rate

[severe bough]

Mod order

[potent bramble]

forgot it exists

[frank pier]

ik im just saying they couldve at least buffed it if they knew rivens weren't gonna be a saving grace

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[potent bramble]

tried that and fire rate with primed shred doesnt really change much

[outer hull]

what should i put here for garuda

[potent bramble]

without / with shred, looks nice but in game doesnt change much

maybe vile accel would do but im unsure

since 8 mag

[granite ginkgo]

heh, 2 more ember for parkour

[limber panther]

What are good weapons and there builds to run in the new tower?

[granite ginkgo]

one u can be use for any possible game mode in warframe

[gaunt marlin]

with arcane expertise, should i still prioritise range for hildryn, or try to get more str

[tawdry sleet]

expertise lets you slot in more strength over max shields, you should always go high range on her

[crimson osprey]

Hey anyone have a good/fuctional/fun atlas summon build?

[hearty scarab]

Gloom blessing persistence = immortality any frame

Hit something every once in a while to just gain back all ur HP

Or use uri subsume

[crimson osprey]

inarus, nidus, im gonna toss it on my oberon and baruuk as well and see how it goes

[midnight horizon]

I've always wondered if Acuity or Multishot brings more value in the long run.

[stiff dagger]

best frames for arcane persistence ?

[severe bough]

Inaros nidus lavos

[severe bough]

Ms acuity got nerfed into ground at some point

But there still some weapons that can def benefit from acuity

[stiff dagger]

are any of the new arcanes actually meta to use ?

[severe bough]

Nah all of them are more niche

Execpt irratde

Thats sounds ass tbf

[stiff dagger]

i thought the same, now im thinking it could be cope with oberon

[crimson osprey]

itll work, at least the build i have with him

plus pheonix renewal if shtf

[severe bough]

Oberon doesnt need that tbf he is immortal with his passive just throw on brespite on top of that and your good

But ig it can work

[stiff dagger]

im talking about irratide, that was rad damage nuke from what ive read

[severe bough]

Ye it was like 5m

[stiff dagger]

pair it with a natualis with blast and xatas whisper and might be able to make it work

[severe bough]

Then it could mabye work

I mabye take a look at that

[lean rivet]

So I can’t remember currently but if you use Magus Husk for armor does Vazarin waybound increase it?

[carmine dew]

the thing about oberon is that he already has huge aoe nukes

that is, literally the skill you use to get the 10 rad stacks in the first place

[midnight horizon]

I've yet to actually go Multishot on Sybaris but idk.

[severe bough]

On sybaris i dont know either mabye ninjase got a build

[crimson osprey]

still itll be neat

[kindred sierra]

Has anyone tried Arcane Circumvent while in sprodling form as Nokko? Can he strip with his dodge or is it not considered a roll?