builds-discussion

[coral crest]

Said it like you aren't cleaving your way through cascade

Do you play revenant be honest

[kind void]

I’m a nidus main.

[coral crest]

[kind void]

Forever and always

[coral crest]

Respectable

[kind void]

I have more hours on nidus then most players have in the game

[coral crest]

I guess it means he can finally use abundant mutation in endurance without jumping through extra hoops

[kind void]

Sadly he still doesn’t need it XD nidus only needs 10k health. You can’t use shields hit that with like 250% str and parasitic vitality

So he never loses stacks anyways

No reason to waste the slot

[coral crest]

Either way

[kind void]

So even now it’s still useless XD

[coral crest]

Watch this arcane be a weekly timegate from sp descendia

[kind void]

Could be but I doubt it

[eager charm]

How do you cope with the first ten seconds of the mission? That's my most hated part before I can get stacks going

[kind void]

On that’s easy. Because of how squishy nidus is at the start I just corner camp

Use larva to pull them in and then start farming

I also started using gloom because of how well it fits with his kit

[eager charm]

What if ur allies dont wait for you and just go on ahead

[kind void]

That’s why I started using gloom

I almost never got hit anyways

And now we’ll now I will take even less damage

I have like 12 builds for nidus

[coral crest]

All things considered

5m aoe on each Ocucor beam is silly

[novel bear]

They’d probably make it legendary if it was

Then again, fallout, hotshot, and escapist weren’t at first

[eager charm]

I guess my issue is just that unless I can larva a bunch of enemies and somehow not get shot in the process and not have my allies steal the kills, you never get to "play" nidus

Feels like a weakness in his kit

I'll probably make a triumbral build for him with persistence and stop worrying idk lol

[coral crest]

Yeah that's what I also said when they got unveiled

[mighty flare]

10 rad a bit gross, needs more setup

[coral crest]

This arcane has the "turned legendary when it hits Dissolution" energy around it

[coral crest]

Funniest ocucor build ever

[novel bear]

Qorvex secondary weapon platform

[coral crest]

Nyx

[novel bear]

Qorvex can use persistence too

[coral crest]

Everyone forgets about nyx

[novel bear]

Loki

Oberon

Wisp, if you want to make a weapon platform build with sol gate for some reason

[mighty flare]

maybe? dropping flare for arcane precision is fine but missing fortifier for eximus/thrax ttk isnt good

[quiet laurel]

cyte rad ammo tech

[severe bough]

She technically is cuz if u die u got 5 secs of invuln thats basically pressing 1 and u got the meter full anyways

[velvet pulsar]

Not me

[kind void]

If you want to see them I’ll be home in a bit and can explain them

[kind void]

Her 1 refills her entire meter?

[severe bough]

Irradiate most meme arcane in that update

[velvet pulsar]

Also isn't this same as blast status but with more inconvenience?

I don't see any major reason why I would use that arcane over radiation

[mighty flare]

i also dont really the 10cap requirement gimmick they're doing
takes too much setup, when it scaling per status would be more convenient

[eager charm]

Do you use any non-mutation survivability mods? I was thinking abt using triumbral since they work right from the start

[severe bough]

It groups and throws an automatic heavy if u got enough enemys around you which which u will when u die u just press her 1 everything pulls together and meter is like up in seconds

[mighty flare]

yes blast but even more inconvient

[velvet pulsar]

Okina arcane!

[quiet laurel]

frost arcane no way

[kind void]

A few. Like I said I can show you what I got when I get home in about 30min

[velvet pulsar]

Thermal Sunder can freeze too

[kind void]

A lot of my builds don’t use stacks to survive they use stacks when a mistake is made.

[quiet laurel]

tech

[kind void]

So I limit how often I lose stacks

[quiet laurel]

(this arcane will be overshadowed by influence once again)

[severe bough]

Why they even adding melee arcanes

[velvet pulsar]

Not on okina though, coz the daggers don't replenish via influence

[quiet laurel]

illusion of choice

[coral crest]

I said funniest not best

AoE slop

[severe bough]

Wai waiii content

[quiet laurel]

doesnt matter, influence still has the highest KPM potential

[velvet pulsar]

K... F... A (read these 3 letters in reverse order)

[quiet laurel]

2035

[velvet pulsar]

The more damage = the more okina daggers get chance to replenish themselves

[velvet pulsar]

Also we're way past that point after DE decide to keep bringing more & more acid shells users

[tame sail]

Message me and add me to saying Christian blessing 🥳

[pseudo lodge]

Inaros Is about to go crazy again or anybody with high armor to be honest

That new health tank arcane looks rad

[velvet pulsar]

Lavos:
No energy.
No shield.
No overguard.
All elements.
Status Immunity.

[pseudo lodge]

As a lavo player yes

[pseudo lodge]

Could you make that a build real fast? I wanna see what it looks like theoretically plus the arcade

[velvet pulsar]

I'm gonna bring Lavos into more content now

[pseudo lodge]

My special scientist boi

[velvet pulsar]

Honestly I decided to rather wait for update coz I wanna test some more ifs & buts about it

[pseudo lodge]

I’m un creative so I made him into a scaldra unit, but I need to mess with his fashion a lot more

I kinda wanna turn him into one of those old water filled mouses. You know what I mean.

[velvet pulsar]

I don't wanna believe that it permanently disables shields.

It's like u always have the negative effect active but the positive effect has an "if" condition.

[pseudo lodge]

Like an old fruitigr areo look

[velvet pulsar]

If it disables shields mid mission, then Parasitic Armor might be a great subsume pair with this arcane.

Fortunately DR isn't further affecting so Well of Life will overshadow other subsumes.

[velvet pulsar]

For now all I can suggest is that have some consistent source of healing.

[pseudo lodge]

I would forget does valence formation work on melee?

[velvet pulsar]

It works on all weapons

(that includes archguns and melees)

[pseudo lodge]

K so for some kind of health tank bill you could probably get away with using arcane reaper and a good AOE/influence melee you would you would really need to worry about enemy density though

[velvet pulsar]

It's capped per second

Which means apparently enemy density shouldn't affect u

[pseudo lodge]

If you’re able to consistently get precision hits, you could use the hema

[velvet pulsar]

Oh I have a better solution for u

Furis augment.

Enjoy.

[pseudo lodge]

I guess that there’s easy ways but

[pseudo lodge]

Where? Where would that be? Also, would it be 5000 platinum to get because I am broke right now.

[velvet pulsar]

Furis is convenient option

[velvet pulsar]

New Loka

Standing cost
And it barely costs any plat if u wanna trade

[pseudo lodge]

i have like 8 plat

[velvet pulsar]

It's called Winds of Purity

[velvet pulsar]

Which among the 6 faction syndicates r u associated with?

Currently the market price of it is 12 plat

[storm fog]

What are they doing with health now?

[velvet pulsar]

Also u can easily find someone willing to trade for that

[velvet pulsar]

One arcane that changes everything

Basically gives Warframes dmg attenuation

[storm fog]

BRUH

inaros won’t be memed on anymore?

[kind void]

Not exactly. It gives warframes health gate

[pseudo lodge]

Cephon and hexis

[kind void]

He’s now at the top of passive tankyness

[coral crest]

AS HE SHOULD

[kind void]

Inaros and nidus are now the 2 tankiest frames in the game

[coral crest]

AS THEY SHOULD

https://tenor.com/view/cat-holding-head-cat-sad-cat-rahh-wahhhh-gif-11843610789762008433

[kind void]

I can’t wait to abuse some new strats that wouldn’t work before. This is gonna be fun

[pseudo lodge]

I’m trying to go for a look with Lavo and the way the colors look on the skin is like kind of weird and hard to use for the texture I’m going for

[kind void]

Time to extend nidus undying by 5 extra frames every time

[pseudo lodge]

I’m using his new deluxe skin and I’m trying to make him look like one of those water filled mouses/frutiger areo look

[velvet pulsar]

Omamori + arcane persistence

[kind void]

Rolling guard.

[velvet pulsar]

Nah I'm arranging well of life for that

[kind void]

Rolling guard works perfectly with undying

[coral crest]

i find it funny how with this arcane omamori just didnt lose anything

[kind void]

You can roll during undying and it doesn’t start the 3 seconds until undying ends

So you don’t have to time it at all

There are so many things you can do with this it’s not even funny

[velvet pulsar]

Remember energy tanking?

I wanna know the numbers, Mason.

Quick Thinking + Hunter Adrenaline + Persistence

[kind void]

Already done

You need about 200 health per second

With everything stacked up it gets down to about 145

With 145 you have infinite health

[velvet pulsar]

Ah achievable via wisp

[kind void]

Yup

So wisp is now immortal

[coral crest]

And she has health tanking tools

so AS SHE SHOULD BE

[kind void]

Don’t need them for energy tanking

[coral crest]

She still can

[kind void]

But also she needs 700 armor

[coral crest]

[kind void]

I just can’t wait to see what new builds I can make with this arcane

[velvet pulsar]

Imagine a helminth invigoration which gives status immunity and armor

[kind void]

And probably some new mods as well. I’m hoping we finally get some more range arcane

[kind void]

Why do that? Just use the one that gives massive regen every second for a duration

[coral crest]

didnt pablo say that there will be no more range as its already too much

[kind void]

No idea. But we don’t even hit 300%

[coral crest]

good

we dont need to hit 300%

its already quite enough

[kind void]

Ability str is already able to push to nearly 700%

With nidus you can hit 4000%

It’s getting insane

[coral crest]

we dont need more range when high range tools can already literally cover the mini map

just bc other values got inflated doesnt mean range should

[kind void]

Yah but you need to use a lot of mods slots to do it

[coral crest]

its much more impactful than any of them

[kind void]

Got inflated? It’s still being inflated

They keep adding more things to is

[coral crest]

my point stays

ah yes, 80m range maim

we certainly need that

[velvet pulsar]

Heat procs will reduce armor by 50%

Status Immunity is important

[old marsh]

If range is increased further you could literally clear even bigger maps without moving. We already can clear smaller defense node maps as of right now

[coral crest]

lavos propaganda is finally becoming real outside of reddit

[velvet pulsar]

Might as well make him the best warframe.

[coral crest]

ehh

wouldnt call him the best

but this arcane pretty much plugs the only hole he had

[severe bough]

I think im ready for upate just noted all frames that will be good with persistence and that will be the first thing i look through now just wait

[velvet pulsar]

Dude skipped several game mechanics

[severe bough]

[coral crest]

and more than you probably know

[severe bough]

Skipped straight to boss fight

[velvet pulsar]

This

What next?
No health frame?

[severe bough]

Your ideas for persistance were lavos nekros grendel and ofc inaros nidus right?

[severe bough]

Alternativ reality frame that can be only damaged when sun rises

[coral crest]

Lavos, Nekros, Grendel, Inaros, Nidus, Oraxia, Garuda, Voruna. To name a few

[severe bough]

Garuda and voruna aswell Sounds interesting

[coral crest]

garuda already has molt reconstruct but this will still be an option

[velvet pulsar]

I did have this idea where robotic enemies should only have shields and no health coz viral affecting robots doesn't make sense, same goes for toxin

[coral crest]

in fact

if you go for persistence with garuda

blood altar might actually become relevant

[severe bough]

I mean what does it actually do for her

[velvet pulsar]

Well of Life

[severe bough]

Same quest for voruna

[coral crest]

well of life has flat heal

its much less healing output all things considered

[velvet pulsar]

It has 2 different heals

[coral crest]

altar heals a lot more long term

[velvet pulsar]

One heal is a flat amount
Other heal is lifesteal

[coral crest]

fair enough

[coral crest]

garuda has all the ways to avoid extra dmg and her 3 will benefit from larger health giving her a ton more energy for less time

[velvet pulsar]

And that lifesteal is shared so any stray shots from allies will keep healing

[coral crest]

voruna can just spam health conversion out of her ass

actually she got invis

why does it matter

[velvet pulsar]

All invisible frames get the option of health conversion

[coral crest]

yeah true

[magic saffron]

Can I get a dm for help with a riven choice?

[velvet pulsar]

Maybe it's time that I start using oberon

He already was the rigged boss of a video game, now he'll be even more rigged.

[severe bough]

i think i didnt quite understand that with health conversion shi etc. Arcane does disable shields right and only enables when u got 700 armor. And i cannot be hit for more than 500 dps and what i assume with that is we dont directly get one tapped now with Health tanking but we need any kind of health conversion so we dont die

[severe bough]

U can just send rivs in here

[velvet pulsar]

We need to confirm if it disables shields from the beginning of a mission itself or when reaching 700 armor.

As per description, I'm assuming it's permanent.

[coral crest]

garuda has 420 armor, she doesnt need health conv

[severe bough]

Well we will see

[velvet pulsar]

Coz if it doesn't disable shields until u reach 700 armor, then Parasitic Armor Hildryn shall be more than a meme.

Hildryn health tank!!

[magic saffron]

HDR messes with snips so sorry for exposure. Do I take innate viral and fire rate over losing cdmg and heat? it frees up multiple slots but I lose a CHUNK of dmg on a crit build and itll be well over 10 after final incarnon as I havent hit that yet

[velvet pulsar]

Those thick muscles were made to tank!

[severe bough]

Nah im just wondering a bit what this hole health convs thing we or you talked about has to do with the arcane in general?
Also if garuda only got 420 armor how we make use of the arcane if not using anything that does give us armor

[coral crest]

by using a mod to give us armor? im not sure what you mean

she is a health tank by her kit, itll be usable on her

and she got status cleanse as well

i doubt itll be as efficient as coke boosted shield gate molt reconstruct garuda

but itll still be using her kit fully and make bloodletting couple times stronger

[velvet pulsar]

I can possibly enjoy blood forge augment now

[novel bear]

Hope this doesn’t bring gloom meta back for lifesteal

[velvet pulsar]

Unless it resets felarx perk

[coral crest]

i dont think it does

it only resets hata satya

[velvet pulsar]

Trust in furis

[coral crest]

other reload gimmicks like blazing barrels or ocucor are not broken by blood forge

[novel bear]

I don’t trust people to use furis instead of gloom

[fathom token]

ayy yo, I'll try putting something together

[velvet pulsar]

Also people will realize that they'll also need status immunity, so they'll rather start picking Well of Life

[coral crest]

people will realize how cracked well of life subsume is

it even has a single use death prevention

all for the cost of 25 energy base

[velvet pulsar]

I literally have saved screenshots

[severe bough]

True imo braining

[coral crest]

i dont get what you mean

[coral crest]

well of life more like wall of text amiright

the old peace has fallen, billions must farm ambulas

[novel bear]

Or they can do circuit and save themselves the pain

[velvet pulsar]

Only Titania subsume comes close in terms of both regular ability and augment, but the only real advantage it got is that status immunity is not limited to range once u get it.

[coral crest]

but the funny grofit guy :(

[velvet pulsar]

My limbo got 3 different main advantages just by well of life

[coral crest]

fraud behk

[velvet pulsar]

Is he still alive?

[coral crest]

ye

[novel bear]

If that video was in the boss fight I would like it more

But it’s not

[velvet pulsar]

Damn Darvo & Dad

[coral crest]

they shouldve played it when you unlock the planet

like with alad v

[fathom token]

something like this, you can probably use the zetki vort instead
(the first battle mod is blackout pulse)

[severe bough]

Nah i just didnt think thats why i wrote that.

I def need to take a loon at the builds with that arcane when its finally there

[coral crest]

mesa breaks the 500hp threshold when using her passive. we must work on that

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[fathom token]

also, add some crewmembers with this trait if you have any

[coral crest]

gogg gagg is our hero

[velvet pulsar]

They must've copied Bloodletting's code to the new hema augment.

[austere oar]

LEZGAW

[velvet pulsar]

And then copied hema's original code and multiplied it by 100 to create arcane persistence

[severe bough]

Is that supposed to be bad or good..

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-with-tongue-cat-smiling-gif-11949735780193730026

[coral crest]

it means we are making healthtank mesa using her 550 hp without melee

[velvet pulsar]

Okina mesa

[coral crest]

she doesnt get the extra 50hp with mele equipped

[velvet pulsar]

U get movement speed, arcane ice storm proc via the new melee arcane, all without equipping the melee

[kind void]

health conversion

[coral crest]

But the 50hp

[kind void]

interesting

[velvet pulsar]

I said... WITHOUT EQUIPPING THE MELEE

[severe bough]

We need over 500 hp right?

[velvet pulsar]

Or do u mean removing the melee at all?

Is that how her passive has worked?

[coral crest]

Yes

You need to unequip melee for that

[velvet pulsar]

Dang and here I thought u just don't have to switch to it

[coral crest]

Americans can only use guns

[velvet pulsar]

No wonder I rarely saw 550 HP

I should thank Hyekka Masters to disarm my melee, if that has ever happened

[coral crest]

I imagine so, and it would be instakill the moment damage climbs to 500

[austere oar]

I'm gonna need to farm the zetki laiths

[novel bear]

No amalgam furax though

[velvet pulsar]

U gotta win some
U gotta handsome

[severe bough]

Thats what i thought but dont we also need any kind of health regen to be able to regen all of the health again? ( general speaking of the arcane )

[velvet pulsar]

[fathom token]

the zetki vort works too

[austere oar]

Damn I'm also missing three mods actually

[fathom token]

which ones? most of them aren't really necessary

[velvet pulsar]

Beware of the gloom mesa

[austere oar]

Uhhh, defensive fire, turret velocity, and the other fire

[fathom token]

yeah, those aren't really needed

[coral crest]

Gloomesa

[austere oar]

Fortifying

[novel bear]

Wolmesa

[fathom token]

def/fort fire buff shields, turret velocity increases projectile velocity for the turrets

[novel bear]

Honestly, mesa’s survivability is already great just with fortifier
Using persistence on her seems like a lot of effort

[fathom token]

alternative example

[coral crest]

This is the time

[austere oar]

Ooooh, okay okay i guess I'm still going to need the other buff

Since going solo takes a toll and I end up doing the repairs

remote repairs are painfully slow and I'm not always on pilot unless of course I'm levelling arch stuff, there's prolly a better way to lvl those up methinks

[austere oar]

OH HEY I CAN DO THIS

[fathom token]

no crew?

[coral crest]

The legendary healthtank xaku

[austere oar]

Ah I do

[novel bear]

167 base armor though

If health conversion drops you just die

[austere oar]

Still poopoo, cause ticker ain't giving me good crew to hire

[fathom token]

keep in mind that having an engineer assigned with maxed out engineering gives you faster hp regen

[velvet pulsar]

Blood Altar should get an augment

[coral crest]

Xaku has other ways to survive to be fair

Damage evasion chance, lots of mind control

We can make it work

[fathom token]

this trait on mk3 vidar will massively increase your survivability

[velvet pulsar]

Xaku is usually caster so huras or shade

[coral crest]

We (will) have the technology

[coral crest]

No I will be building health tanks out of random garbage augments and you can't stop me

[velvet pulsar]

Otherwise I use Zymos Xaku which will then run evade

[coral crest]

.

[austere oar]

Would this hypothetically let me be able to leave the crew and go fend for themselves

[velvet pulsar]

I shall provoke u

[fathom token]

this is also very useful in general if you do get it

[fathom token]

I mean, the phoenix blaze battle mod gives you massive damage reduction already

[austere oar]

Also what IS an ideal crew with good traits anyway?

[fathom token]

my regular loadout can facetank veil missile stations if I leave the ship

[austere oar]

True true

[velvet pulsar]

Harrow with that arcane

[novel bear]

Hildryn

[coral crest]

Oh right another frame that can possibly work very well with this

Nezha

[velvet pulsar]

Parasitic Armor

[novel bear]

Can’t use it without shields

[velvet pulsar]

Already discussed

[velvet pulsar]

Already discussed
We have 2 scenarios

[coral crest]

The implication is that it might not delete the shields until you reach 700 armor

It it does then rip, If it doesn't then parasitic armor meta

[fathom token]

for reference, this is what I normally run

[velvet pulsar]

Either shields disable only when reaching 700 armor or Parasitic Armor Hildryn is just a meme

[novel bear]

The way it’s phrased sounds like it disabled shields no matter what

[velvet pulsar]

However we cannot trust DE's descriptions

[coral crest]

Tharros strike still stays the absolute god tier subsume that it is. Since it also heals per enemy hit

This finally comes into play

[velvet pulsar]

Oh dang I forgot about Tharros Strike

[coral crest]

It heals 50hp per enemy at base(affected by str)

And it's an armor/shield strip

[fathom token]

also keep in mind that you can increase your railjack's HP by 1500 as the mission goes on by using the forge

[coral crest]

And a huge crit dmg boost with an augment

[novel bear]

Health tank kullervo

[austere oar]

That intruder stasis actually sounds useful for boarders

[fathom token]

yes, it's great

[novel bear]

650 base armor

[old marsh]

More like Health Attenuated Kullervo

[velvet pulsar]

100 is base right?

[novel bear]

His prime has a good chance of hitting 700

[coral crest]

Yeah, Kullervo already has arcane aegis as an augment. But if it'll work

[coral crest]

Oops, Im wrong

[austere oar]

What's the ideal move on that, like mid mission or during the fighters and crewship massacre?

[fathom token]

especially if you're in a squad tho, you can ignore boarders for 45s while doing taxi, shooting down a crewship or whatever

[coral crest]

Yeah Tharros strike is 100hp per enemy hit at base

And 50% armor strip

Confused the two values

[velvet pulsar]

And styanax can run energy tank combined with his 3

[coral crest]

Yeah

Absolute cinema

Do remember that it's a subsume as well

[fathom token]

I usually just do it when crafting dome charges
3 dome crafts+1 hull until you have 8 domes, then do 2+2

[coral crest]

You can run Tharros strike on anyone without lowered stats

[austere oar]

Oooo, duly noted

[velvet pulsar]

Not a fully reliable heal but yeah

The nitpicks will be singular enemies

[coral crest]

They always are

Smh

[eager charm]

He doesnt
At high levels, the daggers will all leave the ring to lodge in enemies and wont come back for a second or two which is enough to die

[velvet pulsar]

Furis really is convenient option eh

[fathom token]

also, if you're in a premade squad
just ask the one doing away missions to craft hull and dome charges when recalling from away objs

[coral crest]

Oh, okay then

[eager charm]

Even with 175% range you have to use omamori to survive levelcap on kullervo

[coral crest]

The evil sancti magistar with heal on heavy attack has been summoned

[austere oar]

Gotcha gotcha

[eager charm]

Healing has zero effect when you get one shot tho... persistence might be a good bandaid tho

Kullervo subsuming off his 2 is so cursed lol

[old marsh]

Watch DE make it 690

[coral crest]

We are talking about Persistence setups entirely

So no "getting oneshot" anymore

[velvet pulsar]

U need continuous hits

[coral crest]

Coda Hirudo might just be immortality as long as you damage enemies

[velvet pulsar]

A melee with regular lifesteal mod and light attack spam is more promising than sancti Magistar

[velvet pulsar]

Hirudo...
Now that can rival Furis

[old marsh]

There was one with Rakta DD too. Forgot what was the exact passive

[velvet pulsar]

Nah that's shields

[coral crest]

It restores shields per hit but only if they arent broken

[fathom token]

final note:
mk3 lavan hull plating starts out with about 2.2% more eHP, while vidar ends with about 5.5% more when at +10 forge
use whichever one you've upgraded more, the diff is very negligible
IIRC if you have both vidar and lavan hull plating and not fully upgraded them, multiply the vidar raw HP by x1.364
if the vidar has more HP after multiplying, use that, otherwise use lavan

[old marsh]

Aah. My b then.

[velvet pulsar]

I just realized...

[coral crest]

I understand it now. Basmu mag depletion setup with the new augment. It has been their plan all along

[velvet pulsar]

That one decoy augment which shares 50% dmg redirection to u and decoy...
What pointless stuff can we do with persistence?

[velvet pulsar]

Not only basmu, hema headshots too

[austere oar]

Okay, so far I'm good, only need to enhance the mods for it

Endo hungry

[coral crest]

Basmu will probably be more consistent since it isn't gonna eat half your hp

[velvet pulsar]

Hema headshot healing doesn't require augment

[coral crest]

All that

[velvet pulsar]

U can use hema without augment

[coral crest]

Basmu heal doesn't req and augment also

I'm just saying that this is probably why both of these augments exist

[velvet pulsar]

Hema augment was likely because I made a rare request probably exactly 1 year ago

[coral crest]

Lol

[velvet pulsar]

"please let upcoming coda hema drain more hp" for trinity's champion's blessing

U guess trinity can run champion's blessing even better now

Coz we got persistence

[fathom token]

scrapping dupes of mk3 salvage gives you 225 endo each

[coral crest]

Dagath with health conversion and dorrclave bonus

Finally, she can now be immortal twice

[austere oar]

Already used them up apparently lmao

I need to get dupes for the stuff you suggested

[fathom token]

yeee

if you only want to run a fun battering ram build, use a zetki mk2 reactor

but if you want a more generally useful one, get the zetki mk3 reactor and upgrade that instead

mk2 caps out at +80% battle mod str, mk3 only at +60% str but also gives you +40% range

that range makes a huge diff since it buffs the AoE of shatter burst

[fathom token]

also, the laith and vort guns are corpus only

drops from corpus crewships

[kind void]

ok found the catch with the new arcane

it wont work with grace

grace reqires you to take health damage

but the new arcane makes it so you only take health damage 1 tim every second

[coral crest]

Graceless

Put your foolish ambitions to rest

[kind void]

nah i have other methods

already got around it so no worries

[coral crest]

Yeah it definitely won't be needed

I wonder how it'll interact with on hit stuff

[kind void]

either way its insanly strong

[coral crest]

Just giving health tanks a chance at endurance life for once

Lots of frames that will actually be able to use their kit to survive

Instead of bastardized anti synergistic shield gating

I'm especially happy for Nekros and Lavos

[kind void]

already made 4 new builds that will be able to abuse the new arcane quite easily

and i think all of them are level cap viable

[coral crest]

I just swapped two delay mods and precision intensify for triumbral on my lavos build

Should be more than enough

And aegis for persistence ofc

[old marsh]

Nukor question. Is Seeker a better option than Merciless Gunfight coz its already has over 10x CD multiplier with Primed Target Cracker

[sour bear]

hey! i’m trying to make a health tank for wisp, and this is what i’ve come up with so far. i’m going to use the augment for sol gate next, any other suggestions?

[coral crest]

Waiting for arcane persistence

[kind void]

wait till tomorrow

[old marsh]

with MG u go from 10.5x to 12.5x CD. so thinking if PT is better to use with Seeker

[sour bear]

wait you’re actually so right

[kind void]

wish i was kidding too. new arcane drops that makes health tanking viable

[coral crest]

I'm just glad this new sorta bandaid actually enables health tanks to use their kit to survive in endurance instead of relying on outside shit like OG

I absolutely hate Fortifier as a bandaid solution

[kind void]

i just want an overgaurd subsume

then i can make OG nidus

[coral crest]

No, you will health tank now

And you will LIKE it

https://tenor.com/view/anton-ego-gif-9709800945809453150

[mighty flare]

gunfight better

better averages

[austere oar]

Woah didn't think that was a thing

[old marsh]

gotcha. figured if i can hit 3 enemies at once instead of 2 with MG, would be a better room clearer.

[austere oar]

I'd prolly run it just for the hell of it lmao, whenever I'm not on my pc I play on the geforce now and I'm forced to play with a controller with a painful input delay so this build will be fun

Hell, it already IS, just tried it out and ramming fighters are just a new type of serotonin

Also, how many times can you fuse dupes anyway

Just fused one lavan plating and hull's already at 5k, armor still needs works but eh I'll take it

[sour wind]

anyone have build glaive prime? max dmg

[midnight horizon]

Sacrificial steel
Primed pressure point
Volatile quick return
Amalgam organ shatter
Melee elementalist (not galv)
Galvanized reflex
Faction mod (or killing blow)
Power throw
Melee duplicate

[silent tree]

Does anyone have a good inaros prime build? It’s for my brother

[midnight horizon]

Wait until tomorrow

[silent tree]

Oh yeah cuz old peace

[midnight horizon]

The new update should give something really really good to inaros so

[silent tree]

I also have a question. In the past, has inaros been good with gaining max health possible or maintaining?

[west grove]

what stats should I focus on with Voruna? should I ignore her 4?

[midnight horizon]

Ignore her 4, she's better as a weapon platform with one shot melees like zaw contagion

[midnight horizon]

Before, maintaining high hp is still easy but it gets difficult the higher levels you go.

After the update tomorrow, that shouldn't be a problem anymore

[silent tree]

Perfect

Thanks

[west grove]

I take it I should also bring a status gun to benefit off something like Galv Aptitude, right?

o wait also, out of curiousity, does Voruna's 4 count as melee?

[midnight horizon]

It does yeh

But again she's just better off with oneshotting enemies using contagion icl

[novel bear]

Just use a melee with condition overload

[rugged ferry]

what to replace to add this....

[green gyro]

nothing

the riven isnt slottable

[rugged ferry]

it will be, i replacing 1 mod. i decided to replace malignant force and mangetic

Put in the riven
and added the status/dmg for electricity ot keep magnetic

[green gyro]

the riven is bad and slotting it is just making your build worse

just fyi

[rugged ferry]

how is it bad

multishot means more chance for status

[green gyro]

it cant replace any mods in a good build

also low dispo so theres not much extra multishot

no negative so even lower stat values

there is no mod configuration where that riven actually makes your weapon stronger

[rugged ferry]

got an example riven that is ideal?

[fathom sky]

A usuable Riven is just one that has a stat that beats out a mod you'd slot in anyway. If you had a mod with 60% Tox, 60% SC and then some other thing, it replaces Malignant Force. Something with more than 200% CC and other stats beats Crit Delay. All assuming you don't have a negative that's just ruinous like -MS

[tardy thicket]

Does primary frostbite’s bonus crit damage apply before or after mods?

[fathom sky]

Works like a mod, like most other things

[near nimbus]

which one would you guys pick if punch through was fire rate?

[hard dove]

Why are you just straight up replacing one of the stats on the rivens

That's not how rivens work

[near nimbus]

not my ss lol just wondering cause i got a similar one

[hexed sundial]

Prob the right one

You already get more than enough crit damage from primed target cracker

Fire rate is multiplicative with frenzy bonus

Multishot is the best stat

Both have crit chance which is also good

[near nimbus]

ty ❤️ i didnt know about the frenzy being multiplicative thanks for the info

[green gyro]

stop on the right one

[rugged ferry]

any recommendations for ambassador build?

[mighty flare]

regular viral heat, multishot, crit mods, fire rate, galv aptitude

[rugged ferry]

whatabout galv scope

[kind void]

Ok I was able to finish setting up my new nidus builds in prep for that arcane

Honestly can’t wait to abuse this to just never die

[mighty flare]

just crit delay is fine

[rugged ferry]

k

[rugged ferry]

what arcane
crux or deadhead

it has accuracy for deadhead, and status for crux..

[serene rain]

@rugged ferry Imma send you my builds when I get home so you could compare or whatever

[rugged ferry]

ty ❤️

[mighty flare]

deadhead is more dmg, crux is less reloading

also forgot its innate electric, so options are corrosive heat, viral electric, or pure electric

[rugged ferry]

was thinking magnetic due to eximus

but magnetic or viral...

[rugged ferry]

viral/magnetic/electric?

[vagrant dragon]

Atlas - Petrify - Ore Gaze, Ab Str >400% (For example 800%) , that give chance to 2 additional items or always 1? Necro build with Оre Gaze not used?

[tepid turtle]

does cascadia flare work on warframe abilities?

[novel bear]

No, just the secondary it’s equipped to

Heat procs from any source will stack it though

[rugged ferry]

infested clip over malignant force?

[tepid turtle]

okay what would be a good arcane for the grimoire then? trying to run it as a ability strength buff with solar flare wisp

[mighty flare]

i use mforce to save forma

alt-fire got cooked so mostly just mainfire now

[rugged ferry]

k

still cursing myself for primed vigor instead of primed shred....90 days ago
...and i got primed sure footed already

...so guess how many days till primed shred.....derp

[mighty flare]

vile acceleration is good

[undone dust]

fortifier and conjunction voltage are the only ones i use on it

[tepid turtle]

yeah i just slapped fortfier on it and called it a day

[novel bear]

You could also use encumber to make it a better primer, but that’s iffy

[tepid turtle]

i really just wanted the strength buff so its not imperitive that its 'usefull' in other ways

[novel bear]

Conjunction voltage helps the alt fire recharge faster I guess

[tepid turtle]

didnt know that might try it later

[proud rain]

does artax riven worth rolling?

[granite bolt]

are these any good?

[serene rain]

Pretty nice Latron Riven

[vagrant dragon]

Oh, find "lie gaze" yt video. Dont work, so bad

[little drift]

iirc you want critical damage and multishot for a latron, but otherwise it's perfectly fine.

[clear crest]

yo so i know nyx is really good cuz of her 4 but if i wanted to helminth over it what should i go for cause i wanna try something new with her

[mighty flare]

roar/xatas/nourish/silence/infested mobility/molt/decoy/etc

[rocky trout]

Is this supposed to be achievable?

[kind void]

yah its pretty easy

you only need 250% str

you can drop intensify and still be over 100%

[rocky trout]

How do you deal more than 100% of their hp???

[kind void]

you dont. it just kills thems

[prime plover]

anyone has a good harrow prime build?(returning player)

[kind void]

wait till tomorrow whne the update drops

things are going to change

[prime plover]

yikes

[kind void]

its a massive update. big changes to how tanking and reducing damage

so harrow builds today might be pretty different tomorrow

for now though you just need a basic even split among range str and duration

dont need any real effic cause of his abilities

[blissful knoll]

Harrow probably doesn't change much no?

We'll probably still see the same pillage, xata, or evade setup

We'll probably still see the same pillage, xata, or evade setup

[astral hawk]

does anyone have a suggestion for gauss prime setups?

[blissful knoll]

as much range and duration as you can fit

The more you use thermal sunder the more you tilt it to range and vice versa

Str is not important for gauss

[astral hawk]

mmm

[blissful knoll]

Neutral str is perfectly ok

[astral hawk]

hows this?

[blissful knoll]

https://overframe.gg/build/591349/gauss-prime/frozen-flames-gauss-thermal-sunder-spam-nuke-levelcap/
https://overframe.gg/build/591347/gauss-prime/electromagnetic-accelerator-general-use-sp-gauss-hybrid-weapon-platform-sunder-nuke/
Something like these 2 builds depending on what you wanna do

[astral hawk]

okay

[chilly zephyr]

is it worth losing this damage for hunter munitions? i was too lazy to get simulacrum access so I can't exactly test 😭

[glass bolt]

for some reason this heat viral build out perform the shock build

[mighty flare]

heat > electric when no external factors like external armor strip
then viral vs no viral is unfair

[blissful knoll]

Well, naturally. With these kinds of elec builds you're expected to outsource viral and armor strip

[mighty flare]

wheres rest of build

[chilly zephyr]

riven is +200% dmage +120% toxin, I replaced generic +75% electricity with hunter munitions

[mighty flare]

rearrange elements to make viral heat and drop hunters munitions

[chilly zephyr]

is it worth it with such low status chance though? I use my companion for viral bc 6% status even with 21 multishot only guarantees 1 status effect

[blissful knoll]

The main reason to use blast toxin is to enable blight right?

[mighty flare]

viral heat for better faction bonuses

[mighty flare]

very bad & not good is what it is

[blissful knoll]

I mean blast tox is p good, just not on corinth

If it's a status chainbeam it's one thing

[chilly zephyr]

i had no idea that the order of slots mattered for how the elements would be combined 😳

[mighty flare]

blast is good, tox gets carried by archon continuity or just blast

its like a leach

[chilly zephyr]

I was originally doing blast corrosive so it could help armor strip meatier targets with successive shots

[blissful knoll]

If you're not building status chance, just focus on getting the proper raw damage faction bonuses

1 stack of corrosive ain't doing anything

Atleast 1 stack of viral doubles your damage

[chilly zephyr]

bro my mind is blown that you can reorder elements to change how they combine, that changes alot

I will use this knowledge... ty

[lost hull]

Something that would have added like 10 min to the teachers quest

[mighty flare]

proper build looks like this

[gloomy elm]

Yeah

[chilly zephyr]

poor teshin still sitting in my quest log bc I haven't done it

[lost hull]

It's practically null, it's just hey, mods exist and status can combine on mods

[dapper sonnet]

Do the toxin dots from toxic lash/does toxic lash scale with toxin valence bonuses?

[lavish orbit]

Left to right then up to down :3

[granite ginkgo]

nope

it become separate proc, it scale w dmg mod

[astral tinsel]

Valence bonus is base damage

That is, base base damage, multiplicative with everything else

But the element has no inherent effect on toxic lash damage

Which is why cold is a good option - it makes viral with the tox mods you want to be using to scale the dot anyway

[thick saffron]

can someone give me any exploiter orb/profit taker build?

[green gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995362122848538777/1401911108717121599/IMG_1183.jpg?ex=693a1636&is=6938c4b6&hm=4490b4cac1dc87c088823fd73c0ecacc11aef28c8e7245de61dddeef12c11023&

[hushed meadow]

is furis incarnon the best dps weapon for heat inherit builds?

[umbral shale]

Who got a build for incarnon torid

[green gyro]

you don't need heat inherit with furis

it's already damage cap after like 1.5 seconds of firing

heat inherit in general is kinda dead, in most cases it's just detrimental

[hushed meadow]

ok so its just good either way ill get it

[green gyro]

hopefully it's removed when Uriel drops

as a mechanic

[hushed meadow]

how is it dead

[green gyro]

there's never a reason to use it

[hushed meadow]

isnt gauss one of the best nukers still

[green gyro]

when things like furis exist

[hushed meadow]

or did they nerf him while i was away

[green gyro]

no lol

he was never that good

it's so much effort for the same thing

[hushed meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

[green gyro]

gauss is better as a weapons platform

sunder is very spammy and a bit slow

[quiet laurel]

DE should just remove thermal sunders AoE and make the augment part of his kit

[vapid pivot]

Bruh why is there no option to do finisher kill on enemies affected by rest & rage or ivara’s sleep arrow?

[potent bramble]

i need help which one is better

[prime lava]

zephyr build anyone?
preferrably for one shot?

[hard dove]

Maximum range, maximum duration

[prime lava]

what about strength?

[hard dove]

Don't matter

Also not maximum duration
Just don't use narrow minded and you're good

[fringe magnet]

Does anyone have opinions on building the regulators for crit and multi shot vs damage and multi shot

[fathom gyro]

I built mine for crit, used archon shards to boost it if I remember correctly.

[hard dove]

No dmg
Your strength stat should cover dmg

[fringe magnet]

My archon shard segment will be done in 4 hours 🙏🙏🙏

[fringe magnet]

I am still fairly new so I’m still lacking the best mods (and then knowledge of where to get them lol), I can send a pic of my setups here if that’s okay?

[hard dove]

Sure

[fringe magnet]

Here’s the setups I’m using at the moment (cooking a forma to fix polarity for the aura)

I’m also using this setup on my companion wirh equilibrium to feed myself energy for peacemaker

[frigid crater]

EXACTLY

OH MY GOD SUCH A BASED TAKE THERMAL TRANSFER IS LIKE

Top 5 augments
And the most annoying person you know will try to say " erm its mid " like making the weapon platformer platform weapons even better isnt a good thing

[rocky cloud]

What’s the best nokko build

This is the one I have now

[fervent rapids]

focus on range and strength

[velvet pulsar]

I need a formula fellas

[fervent rapids]

with Molt Augmented and Crepuscular

[velvet pulsar]

Quick Thinking + Gladiator Finesse + Hunter Adrenaline + Rage
And if incoming damage is locked to 500, then how much str nourish I need to no need healing anymore?

[rocky cloud]

Thank you

Gotta go endo farming so I can upgrade sum of my mods

[lapis falcon]

when should xatas be used over for example nourish damage wise, other than nourish when you dont apply viral otheriwse?

[compact hill]

anyone got a build for chorma for doing credit farming in 1999. hopefully a zero forma one since i dont have his prime

[blissful knoll]

The way it works with regulators is str and damage is the same multiplier

So high str means no base damage mods needed and vice versa

[round galleon]

trying to get a build to beat LM2 test, with this I just about fall shy of the timer with having like 7-10 enemies left. does anyone have either a better secondary build option or any pointers to improve this? :0

[lapis falcon]

scuffed 🐶 💩 but does get the job done cause its not even needed to run it in sp

[blissful knoll]

Generally when you care about headshots, xatas bring that extra value

[spiral chasm]

and then u miss ur first and cry after

[lapis falcon]

for real lmfao

[spiral chasm]

xata comes in handy when u need the bullets to constantly hit the same target too

like angstrum inc, latron

[blissful knoll]

Or with smth like dex pixia

[lapis falcon]

is there actually anyway to disable the status effect itself

[spiral chasm]

also good for double dmg instances if u dont wanna mod for toxin for example on corpus

[lapis falcon]

im guessing not really

[spiral chasm]

no

then ud rather take eclipse

because thats also raw dmg with no void and bubble

i like nourish cuz free energy and viral

[lapis falcon]

id love to run xatas nova, but like her 1 and xatas dont pair well at all, cause im guessing 1 aims for center of mass right

[spiral chasm]

xatas has a lot of 1 shot potential instead. idk if its still true cuz idk what the new dmg attenuation does

i have no clue how nova works alas

[lapis falcon]

to clarify, i wouldnt use her 1 to nuke, id be using nova as a platform

[clear crest]

should i make 2 tauforged green for saryn or just put 1 and 1 casting shard?

[compact hill]

ah i dont think i have primed flow and umbral intensify

[twin sail]

@hearty scarab since I know you're online, hi btw, running inaros with gas has been great and I've managed to outpace sp void cascade omnia fissure lobbies with him that way using the dual visciss. I'm still thinking of what to use as a subsume over his desecrate cause I basically never use it-

[hearty scarab]

Roar

Or uhhh gloom now

Since yknow

All you need for survival is just this arcane basically on Inaros

Once it’s released that is

[clear crest]

Nidus finna be peak too

[twin sail]

I use him as a rage frame tho lol, so damage = energy econ

[hearty scarab]

You can still

[twin sail]

I figure, but more damage = more energy and besides, I get the health back like crazy

[hearty scarab]

Just don’t run any DRs

That way you can still get chunks of energy

[twin sail]

fair fair

[hearty scarab]

You aren’t gonna spent over 200energy a second 😭

[loud tinsel]

You know what's funny? If Uriel actually ships with 666 health and 666 shields like he had on the devstreams, he's going to have one of the highest overall health+shield pools of any frame in the game lol, that boy gonna be THICK

[hearty scarab]

Unless ur mashing 4 or smth for whatever reason

[loud tinsel]

He literally has more base HP than Nidus Prime

Which is insane

[twin sail]

idk why I have two empty slots on him-

[hearty scarab]

Inaros doesn’t really care about modding anymore ngl

[twin sail]

also wdym 200 energy, I have arcane battery to give me room for energy lol
that's why I literally NEVER have to worry about energy with rage

[twin sail]

real

[loud tinsel]

He also has more shields than some pseudo shield tanks like Harrow Prime and Caliban Prime

[carmine dew]

base values are kinda meaningless though

[hearty scarab]

Because the arcane will limit the amount of damage the player can take to 500dps

Which means it technically limits ur energy gain per second

But 40% of 500 is still liek

225

Every s

It’s 200

I was right the first time 🥀

[twin sail]

ough

[hearty scarab]

But 200energy/s is still like

Disgustingly good 😭

And Inaros doesn’t even consume a lot

[twin sail]

not really, I just cast spin like constantly is why so that I can keep spreading gas and throwing mfs
I'd love an ability that can deal with enemy overguard instead of using his one tho

also I use scarab swarm a lot, which is why I don't wanna use his 1 for kavats

[hearty scarab]

You can still use persistence for survival

[twin sail]

I'll be back, almost exam time

[hearty scarab]

It’ll be Inaros bread and butter

Gl on ur exam

[twin sail]

fair but bellicose for extra strength funny

[hearty scarab]

Run both

[twin sail]

also ty
I'll have to look at the stuff when the update comes out

[hearty scarab]

👍

[lapis falcon]

literally doesnt matter, you can just run it without these mods and be fine anyway

as i said its not even needed to be run in steel path so youre good as long as you have health and a little armor

[austere flume]

If i want a primary weapon that is just going to be a stat stick and i want as much status chance as i can get... any tips on what i can go for?
I know paris prime incarnon can get to like 480% or something, but i sadly dont have that incarnon.

[hearty scarab]

Strun incarnon

Can get like 1000% SC

Or more

[fossil plank]

how?

[austere flume]

Nice, i will check if i have that one ^^

[hearty scarab]

It increases its own base SC to like

200% base 😭

Or smth dumb

[fossil plank]

damm

imma have to check that out

[hearty scarab]

God im gonna pay like 2000p for r5 arcane persistence

I need it

[austere flume]

Im just hoping that i have that incarnon laying around if i dont have it already xD

[severe bough]

Fr

Best arcane that we got

[hearty scarab]

I’m paying 2100p for it I don’t care

[severe bough]

All the others are skibidi

[hearty scarab]

I need it

I need it NOWWWWW

[severe bough]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-cat-gif-555799605331270828

[severe bough]

Your obessed huh

[hearty scarab]

Pure HP arcane with arcane grace

I can just chill in level cap now

[severe bough]

YESSS

[hearty scarab]

Complete afk

Like go eat come back still alive

[hearty scarab]

Assuming the worst for this new arcane

If you have 30k HP Inaros it’ll take 60 hits to die

There’s a 0.3% chance

That arcane grace won’t proc

During all 60 hits the entire time

[severe bough]

I mean ye but

Its basically gamble

If it procs or not

[hearty scarab]

Correction

0.003%.

😭

[severe bough]

Even it doesnt proc just use tornado 🌪️

[severe bough]

[hearty scarab]

And this is IF arcane grace can’t run a gamble proc more than once a second

It’s so over bro

It’s so over

[severe bough]

Im wondering about trinity aswell on her it might also be really op with her kit does

Self heal

Insane dmg dr

On a few frames i can really see potential on other it probably depends on if the player wanna utilize shield gating or persistance

[hearty scarab]

Or just use blessing persistence gloom

On any frame gg

Brainrot

[severe bough]

Gloom meta

[hearty scarab]

🥀

[severe bough]

Dont bring that up

[hearty scarab]

Healing panzer meta

Passive heals

Inaros about to level cap with just 1 arcane and no mods

[severe bough]

[severe bough]

Even tho the arcane is busted on certain frames im happy to see it doesnt change meta completely... BUt open ups for other ways in endurance runs

[hearty scarab]

Inaros afk god

[severe bough]

41 mins left🥀

[hearty scarab]

I wonder if % dmg bypasses the dps limit

Or kill zones like that one corpus thing

[severe bough]

U need to name outself inaros afk good

[hearty scarab]

Oh my god what the death lasers

[severe bough]

Hear me out need your help

[hearty scarab]

Would you be able to tank them now???

[hearty scarab]

ye?

[severe bough]

Should i do everything before doing the quest

Prime acess

Buy uriel

[hearty scarab]

Unless you’re gonna sell the prime stuff d1

Don’t bother just wait like a month then buy it for 20p

Uriel we don’t know if the frame is easy or not so I’d hold off

So just do the quest

[severe bough]

Or should i only by prime acess get builds over to gyre prime go into quest play till im mentally ill and farm uriel aswell

[severe bough]

Exactly what i thought

[hearty scarab]

That also works

[severe bough]

Cuz i got kinda a idea on what to build him

But i dont have any clue on his weapon

[hearty scarab]

Also can you link arcane persistence in chat rq

I need to see the source drop

please don’t be horrible 😭

Please game please don’t do me dirty

[severe bough]

Im not in game imo💀

[hearty scarab]

🤖

[novel bear]

New hildryn arcane looks fantastic

[severe bough]

I assume its just be able to farm over the new missions and be buyable for standing

[coral crest]

Styanax is about to invent a new color of crits

there are no new syndicates to level

[hearty scarab]

I hope

[coral crest]

its all currency

[severe bough]

Wait so ability strenght boost shields now with that

[novel bear]

Yes

[novel bear]

If only there was a good speargun to get the double bonus

[tawdry sleet]

if this is additive with shield mods i cry

praying its multiplicative

would be so sick

[novel bear]

It’s going to be additive, but it’s still great

[coral crest]

"this doesnt matter for level cap" 🤓

[severe bough]

Boost of how tanky the shields are or that we get shields on top of that

[novel bear]

Sounds like more shields

It’s a lot easier to increase strength than max shields

[tawdry sleet]

this will complicate my damage calcs and will probably shift whats optimal on her but i welcome this

[novel bear]

And it means you’ll double dip on strength for shields if using electric elemental ward

[tawdry sleet]

we haven't had an arcane interact with your shield economy since aegis and barrier 10 years ago

molt efficiency doesn't count

[coral crest]

Molt efficiency is a joke because it has efficiency in the name

[midnight horizon]

Molt EFFICIENCY???? gives DURATION????? WHATTTT

[tawdry sleet]

i still think elec ele ward will be bad but until we learn how this scales we cannot be sure

[severe bough]

On what frames will that be viable only hildy? Or smth like harrow etc aswell sounds kinda nice not only sure on how that will work

[novel bear]

Hildryn and styanax are the only frames that really benefit from more shields

[tawdry sleet]

will be messed up to get damage attenuation in an arcane for warframes and then here have two free primed redirections with some investment for the same slot

[mighty flare]

Just hildryn, styanax passive isn’t liked cuz of how poor it scales

[severe bough]

Whats styanax passiv even dont even have him💀

[severe bough]

What does make this so good on hildryn that it might be a good inslot arcane ?

[mighty flare]

Shields give additive crit chance

[tawdry sleet]

aegis gale damage scales from max shields

[mighty flare]

Aegis scales off both shields and strength

[severe bough]

Ouhhh

[tawdry sleet]

but most of the time strength scales better bc you are calculating the base damage of balefire in aegis gale

[novel bear]

1% crit chance per 40 shields

[mighty flare]

But you never really use other shields mods besides redirection so it’s just straight up free dmg

[tawdry sleet]

keyword: most of the time, depends on which mods you wanna use

[severe bough]

True but still just a slight increase which is kinda nice

[tawdry sleet]

on hildryn this will compete with molt augmented or velocity for damage idk how im gonna calc all of this

[mighty flare]

Sorta yeah, another option now

[severe bough]

25 mins 🥀

Still

[eager charm]

So good... gonna have like 10k shields lol

[eager charm]

Imo molt aug isnt as good because hildryn absolutely does not need more damage
This arcane increasing her max shield pool will be really nice for low efficiency builds, and increase the shield restore from protect since its % based

[tawdry sleet]

i use it to hit 200 str trhreshold

[eager charm]

For pillage two shot strip? That's fine, but armor isnt as stupid as it was before jade shadows so partial strip is just fine

[austere flume]

Ok, now just to figure out how to build uriel 😄

[eager charm]

I wonder if u can hit 20k shields with max strength, shield charger, elec ele ward, and overshields

[severe bough]

I assume high range str a bit duration

But im def not sure

[novel bear]

High range so you can mess up every heat inherit build with your 4

[severe bough]

Alternox prime on raw viral elc ?

I assume

It does also have multi Co

[rain saddle]

Would torid (incarnate) and Saryn be a good combination? Maybe I could add glave prime? I just got my saryn just now, I got tired of playing revanent and want somthing with more AOE that scales well at 600+

[eager charm]

Saryn by herself doesnt add any more aoe to the torid, no
She does buff weapons to high hell tho so if you use something like ocucor or kuva ogris with wide coverage, she will do well

If your objective is just aoe clear tho I'd recommend a frame like hildryn, jade, kullervo, nezha

Abilities can usually reach farther than weapons can, but weapons can do more damage

[rain saddle]

Which one requires the least amount of brain power and are they viable at higher ranks?

[eager charm]

Ocucor is minimum brain activity, it has 4 autoaim tendrils, look up ninjase build on overframe and you're set

[rain saddle]

Ok thank you cute girl that’s probably a middle age man you rock ;3

[eager charm]

Sure thing bro

[severe spade]

was building gauss melee build,weapon is nami solo light attack spam + influence,subsume is roar.question since i dont have wrathful cc is kinda low should i go with purple for melee crit or red pure strengh?

[tawdry sleet]

its mostly for survivability comfort, but with a decent companion i can see why it wouldn't even be necessary for that and partial strip is better

[eager charm]

Hildryn Prime's base shields are 1880
Primed Redirection is +180% capacity, putting her at 5263 shields
If you build at least 280% strength with Arcane Expertise, you can drop Primed Redirection, or use them both for 8648 max shields...

I wonder what the max would be with the most investment possible, since Hildryn can safely dump both duration and efficiency

[amber moth]

Does Uriel's demons count as summonables??

[hollow willow]

Vinquibus Melee doesn't have a stance?

[novel bear]

They said there was a stance in the patch notes

[hollow willow]

Ah ok

[severe bough]

They are summons basically

I assume they will count

[amber moth]

Aight, thanks for the help!

[tawdry sleet]

haven't tested dumping duration and efficiency on her with a raksa kubrow

[pliant pecan]

How does one build the war(the greatsword one)

I attempted to build it myself and it really doesn't work endgame

[severe bough]

Just do influence crab

[edgy lance]

can anyone help me with a build for operator with a 5-7-7 amp?

[eager charm]

Link Redirection, Protect on Raksa
Even with 73% duration and 45% efficiency, Raksa will spam you with full overshields the moment you lose a single point, it's extremely good

[tawdry sleet]

alr sick that means that hildryn is even more overpowered with this augment

[eager charm]

Primed Redirection + Arcane Expertise + power strength will give Hildryn over 10k shields which will increase the Raksa to probably over 15k, and Protect uses 30% of the kubrow's shields so...

You can also use Pillage to restore Raksa shields because you're linked

[tawdry sleet]

its simply peam

[eager charm]

And Mystic Bond also works infinitely on Pillage casts

[tawdry sleet]

i know about the tech but now the tech is even stronger

[eager charm]

Raksa is basically custom made for Hildryn

I'm pretty sure that Mystic Bond will give you infinite 0 energy pillage casts, it doesn't use up the buff unless you use a subsumed ability

Its just a shame that Haven doesn't rly do anything... it's shield recharge RATE and shield gate duration instead of shield recharge DELAY

[tawdry sleet]

doesn't mystic bond not work with hildryn?

[eager charm]

If it was shield recharge delay then Hildryn would be Protea-lite

[tawdry sleet]

i swear ive tried this before

[eager charm]

It works, just not on her channeled abilities, so it only works on pillage and her subsumes, but pillage will not consume the buff

EXTREMELY useful for survivability as it allows you to cast Pillage during shield gate with 0 shields

Must have for Hildryn at higher levels imo

[tawdry sleet]

i swear ive tested this with a subsume and had it not work maybe the companion i was using was unrelliable at proccing mystic bond

[eager charm]

Raksa Protect counts as an ability with cooldown so it's up every 15 seconds or so

[tawdry sleet]

man ig the companion i was using didn't proc mystic bond, good to know raksa does and it does in fact work with hildryn

this will change my build around a bit

but i wanna get my hands on the new arcane firs see how it scales

[eager charm]

I'm stuck at work for the next week and my switch is taking forever to update... take pics for me if you can

[tawdry sleet]

ok seems like it is in fact additive to other base shield increase mods

[eager charm]

Of COURSE it is lol??? If it was multiplicative we'd have like 30k shields

[tawdry sleet]

itd be funny tho :)

[eager charm]

No I dont want her catching too much attention and getting nerfed

[tawdry sleet]

thats true that would suck too much, but still having a new toy to play with in hildryn builds is always a good time

OMG LOL negative strength removes max shields

[eager charm]

What more do you even want? Secondary Fortifier gives her a second shield gate, Combat Disc + Arcane Avenger + Tenacious Bond fixes the crit stats on her Balefire, she can now drop Primed Redirection on her mods...

Zid-An Uskos

On Operator and Tauron Strike Kill: 2.4% Heat Damage for Primary Weapons for  duration of mission, max 250%.

If this applied to secondaries then she would have an extra 250% heat on Balefire too lol

[eager charm]

Lolll, once I'm ingame I'll try to share my builds

[tawdry sleet]

ok so

this gives her quadratic scaling damage on her balefire with aegis gale

primed redirection is completly optional

you go ham on strength now

[eager charm]

I mean Hildryn already has enough damage to destroy levelcap with a silence enervate build, so it's not rly for the balefire dmg

[pseudo herald]

does anyone have any tips on how to do more damage? im only dealing 500k and its getting me killed

[eager charm]

Vital sense over heavy caliber

Get an arcane if you can too

[pseudo herald]

really? that guts my damage though

isnt that the opposite of what i want?

[tawdry sleet]

now the damage is relliable enough to use other stuff

[eager charm]

The damage numbers lie
Look at the crit dmg multiplier on the perfect charged shot

[pseudo herald]

ohh

i might be able to get a adapter

let me check with tenshin

nope

7/15

but so i go for crit instead of raw dmg?

[tawdry sleet]

umbral intensify is now officially better damage scaling too

[eager charm]

You already have flat damage from serration, increasing crit dmg multi will give much better returns

You can scroll down on the left side to see the stats for the perfect shot n charged shot

[pliant pecan]

What is influence crab?

[pseudo herald]

should i swap my status's?

[pliant pecan]

I know what the influence part is referring to but not the crab part

[tawdry sleet]

nvm my math was wrong

[eager charm]

Crab stew, it's an acronym
Condition overload
Range
Attack speed
Blood rush
STeel(galv)
Elementalist(galv)
Weeping wounds

[pliant pecan]

Alr, thanks!

[eager charm]

Oh derp I think the S is actually for electric mod but whatever

Shockingtouch
sTeel
Elementalist
Weeping

[pseudo herald]

honestly i want to swap speed trigger for status chance but i just cant mentally handle slow attack speed

[eager charm]

Slow fire rate weapons dont rly care about status chance too much, corrosive cold is fine for raw damage

[pseudo herald]

oh okay

so i should be fine for SP?

[eager charm]

Should be, just get either merciless or deadhead and you should be set

The tox 90% mod would help a lil bit too

[severe bough]

Use galv appitude if u got it

[tawdry sleet]

@eager charm what would you even slot over primed redirection??

nothing seems of value

[eager charm]

Energy conversion is pretty good bc u constantly pick up orbs, it's basically a 50% strength mod

[tawdry sleet]

i mean i guess

thats the only strength mod remaining to equip

[eager charm]

I never play without at least 250% range so you could probably switch things around there, I'm almost done updating and will post builds in 20mins or so

[tawdry sleet]

outside of the augur mod

[tawdry sleet]

im running 280 here and theres still room left to mod

this is the current setup

[novel bear]

What do you use for shards?

[tawdry sleet]

oh yeah im using 3 strength 2 parkour speed shards

[eager charm]

That's going to be so much damn strength in mission lollll

You could switch avenger for augmented/aegis and slot enervate on balefire too

Then put growing power aura

[tawdry sleet]

i see your objective here

graph says damage will be extremely high at those points

9.6k base damage xd

thats no mods

on the balefire that is

[eager charm]

I'm a lil torn bc augmented/aegis may be better? If all expertise allows us to do is slot energy conversion over primed redirect, we don't gain anything

Aegis/expertise +1 mod doesn't seem like it has any immediate benefits over aegis/augmented/primed redirect

Theres probably something I'm not thinking of